Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 334 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Robert Kennedy jr Et al.

Episode Date: June 23, 2023

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Hey guys, and welcome to another episode of the JRE review this week. We have Cam Haines good old Cam. We have Robert I was gonna say Downey junior that that's completely wrong Robert Kennedy junior. Wow. That one was heavy First announcement something that just came to Todd's attention today is there is some Twitter talk of Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk having an MMA fight. That is maybe the craziest thing ever. And is that your phone ringing, Todd?

You are ridiculous. Oops. But yeah, Zuck's and Elon fighting. I don't see how this can work. It seems unlikely they will ever put it together, but if they do, holy shit, that will be wonder watch and what a ridiculous spectacle in all the best ways. Musking Zuck. Let's get on with it. 20-year-age difference in a 30 to 45 pound difference and a seven-inch height difference.

Yeah, I mean, Elon's a little bigger, but Zuckerberg has been training. And yeah, wild. Anyway, let's get into the show. You are listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast. We find little nuggets, treasures, valuable pieces of gold in the Joe Rogan Experience Podcast and pass them on to you, perhaps expand a little bit. We are not associated with Joe Rogan in any way. Think of us as the talking dead to Joe's walking dead.

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So I think we should stop there. Yeah, I mean, look, he's running for president. I'm sure he's not going to talk about vaccine stuff, his whole presidency. It's probably going to get tiring and old and too controversial for people. But since Rogan's platform is the way it is, and it's maybe the freest podcast out there right now, I'm not surprised he talked about it a lot. And Joe had a lot to discuss with it because of he got thrown into the middle of a bunch of these controversies. Yep.

Yeah. It would have been nicer to hear more than just the, you know, all the controversies around vaccines and stuff, but it's such an important topic and it's such a highlight of what people are talking about lately because of the pandemic. So it made sense. I wish he would have talked more about the presidency run and some other things, but maybe he'll be on again.

He'll be on again. And hopefully he, I mean, Joe was on Twitter talking to Dr. Peter. Is it Hotez? What's his last name? I think so. Yeah, Hotez. And if you don't know the controversy out there, go to Twitter, check it out, because Rogan never calls people out,

and it was a big deal. And now it's what, up to a million dollars that Joe said he will give to any charity of Peter's choice, of Dr's choice. And he doesn't want to, he doesn't want a debate, JFK. Or RFK, excuse me. I just can't believe the lack of debating going on with this. We never really had good ones.

It was just two separate sides talking into their own echo chamber, almost. This is what it seemed like. Yeah. I think Rogan's offered a hundred grand, but other people have jumped in. Okay. And it's up to a good amount.

I mean, look, at the end of the day, could it be that harmful to your side, Dr. Hotez, to where it's not worth at least doing it just to get that money to charity? I think that's worth it. In my mind, the money shouldn't matter because if he's right and he says that vaccines are not harmful and he has the science behind it like he says he does then why wouldn't he debate someone? It's a good point. He could just bring on all of the science.

Prove yourself. Prove yourself. And I think it would be a great conversation. I think people will get a lot out of it. Absolutely. It does make you think though. I mean like Robert was saying when you're a lawyer and you sue someone, you kind of become an expert on the thing that you're suing over, right? So that's kind of interesting. And lawyers are good researchers. They have

to do it, right? So not a scientist, but if he's suing people over like Mercury or other contaminants, and he has to know a lot about it in order to make that case. I mean, look, he wrote the book, The Real Anthony Fauci. It doesn't show up on best sellers list, most places, but you can get it on Amazon, it's sold as shit, load of copies. And Joe makes a good point.

If he hasn't been sued, then why? Like, that seems like an easy thing for Fauci to sue somebody over if it's incorrect. Correct. But, well, and let's not forget, I mean, way before Fauci in 1989 is when he did his first, when he started researching this vaccine problem and maybe the link between autism and methyl mercury and femorisol. This happened in 1989, and that's how he got into this. He was an environmental lawyer before that.

Right, yeah. So he was suing Monsanto before that, correct? I think so, yeah. Anyway, he was an environmental lawyer, so he's not new to research. That's what he's always done. Like you said, as a lawyer, that's what you're doing in order to win a case. You have to research what the hell it is you're fighting again so that you can make a good case for it. Yeah, and he seems to have a pretty solid kind of science background in terms of using

it for legal proceedings, right? And, you know, you've got to be very careful about what day to you pull up and how you pull it up and how you present it. Right. So it was a compelling, and how you pull it up and how you present it. Right. So it was a compelling, super compelling podcast. I would urge everyone to listen to this one, for sure, no matter what side you're on, it doesn't matter. It's just interesting to hear. I mean, it's crazy.

There was so much research that, I mean, even on his children's health defense or children's defense fund, which is Robert F. Kennedy's website. He has been fighting for children and getting mercury out of vaccines since 20, 30 years now. Yeah. So well, I mean, it's interesting because like if he was saying that like mercury, that type of mercury going into the body or definitely into the brain,

like we know that they don't give, they don't want pregnant women eating a lot of seafood because of the mercury, right? So, you know, that's science saying it's not good for you. We already know lead is not good. We don't want that in paint and in our gasoline stuff like that. And if what they're saying is right, that mercury is up to 10 times more dangerous, then wouldn't we just wanna be extra careful about these things? Absolutely, but there is a difference there because the merisol is different than the ethyl mercury, right?

And I, it's likeal and an Ethel. It's like two old ladies. Well, I did pull up some research that was done by Thomas Burbacker back in, I think it was the early 2000s, but this was on the Children's Health Defense Fund. So it was also published in the environmental health perspective back in August 2005. So it wasn't just on Robert F. Kennedy's website, right? I looked it up. Of course we use that product. Duck. Duck. Go.com. Huge supporter of them. Yeah. They're

not a sponsor. But, you know, after reading through it, it just seems like there needs to be way more studies done on this. I mean, the Burbacker did studies on primates and monkeys, infant monkeys, and notice that it was getting through the blood brain barrier from what I could tell after reading this one article. Now, I don't know shit about this other than this one article and what Robert F. Kennedy was saying, but it definitely spiked my interest in And oh my god, I have a two and a half year old. I know that he was getting the hepatitis B shot, which sounds like is used. Right when infants are born, I'm pretty sure it's the day they're born.

They get a hepatitis B shot. And Robert F. Kennedy brought that up. Why are kids getting hepatitis B shots? If the mom doesn't have hepatitis B, it's not going to go to the child. Because they do test the mom, right? Yeah. Obviously. They have to.

They're going to make sure. Right. So why are we doing this extra precautionary vaccine if it's unneeded? It doesn't seem, in my mind, doesn't seem to be needed. And that's just one vaccine that he talked about, you know, in depth on this podcast. But I mean, there was just so much information, dude. It was crazy. And he seems so educated on all of it, obviously. So I don't, everyone's calling him a conspiracy theorist, but like, he's done all the research. It does sound like he's guessing too much. It sure doesn't. I mean, look, again, we're not experts here. We're

just trying to review what was been said, but it raised a lot of questions for me having a two and a half year old who has been getting vaccinated. And it's scary. You know, this autism link from what I have seen and have read and what RFK was saying seems, there seems to be quite a link there between autism and mercury exposure, but I don't know. Right. Yeah, that's the problem. It's like for sure there's been a rise in autism, you know? And is it linked and how?

Right. And that's the thing. There's a big group of people out there that are like, no, that's not it, that's been proven. And you know, in some ways, there's a growing other group that's like, I don't know, I don't trust this, you know, I mean, right. Well, when Robert was saying, well, growing up, he didn't know many autistic people. It's like, I know plenty that are somewhere on the spectrum, a good amount, right? You know, and some of them, yeah, some of them struggle more than others, but it's it's it's

Difficult. It's difficult to have have that. Yeah, and just to get off of the the just the artistic spectrum I mean, there's you know, he's done lots of studies with glyphosate because he sued monsanto and one, right? Okay, I don't have the date on that, but it was, I think in 2006, is when they started, like, celiac disease started becoming rampant in people. Oh, and how many people do you know have that? But you don't see that in the past, right? So how there seems to be a link there with glyphosate, but again, we don't know. There doesn't seem to be a lot of research

because you have these huge pharmaceutical companies and herbicidal companies like Monsanto and people spraying roundup on stuff. And you know, there's been plenty of cancer links with glyphosate and roundup. That's, there's plenty of people who have won millions and millions of dollars because they were exposed to glyphosate and ended up getting lymphoma

or some sort of cancer. But that we haven't talked much. At least I don't, I haven't seen a ton of studies out about celiac disease and all these food allergies that people are getting, right? Like, did you know anyone in the 80s who was allergic to peanuts? Now it's like kids are fucking crazy.

You can't go anywhere without eating peanut butter around children these days. That's a really good point. I mean, they used to have peanuts on planes. You know, they used to be, when we were kids, the favorite thing to do was go to the ice cream van in England. Yeah, it would like play the music

and then you run over that and you would get, you get like a little to the ice cream van in England. Yeah, it would like play the music, and then you run over there, and you would get, you get like a little part of ice cream, and you'd have a choice, and they'd be like, you want nuts, and you want sauce. Everyone got it. Right. And what was the sauce? Just different gross sources,

like butter, scotch, or lemon lime, or just like stuff like that. But yeah, and then eventually they got rid of nuts there too. It's like a lot of people are struggling with this. And you got a wonder where it comes from. You got a wonder. I mean, I almost don't know a kid today that isn't allergic to something.

Right, food wise. Well, and there was also, he talked about atrazine, which I believe is a some sort of herbicide maybe from and it gets into drinking water it's found in soils and they did that study I don't know who the doctor was or the the person who did the study on atrazine in frogs but it was changing them from male to female you remember that part? Oh changing agenda. Changing sex from exposure to atrozen.

Wow. And again, is there a link between that? I mean, who knows, but it's something we should probably do more studies on. Yeah, I mean, humans aren't frogs, but. Exactly, but that's crazy. It just changes the sex of frogs, this fucking compound that we're spraying on stuff.

Uh huh. It's fucked up. Yeah. It's not, I mean, I'm laughing, but it's not funny. It's scary. Yeah. What else? The Russians, I have notes on the Russians don't allow kids

to have cell phones in schools. I mean, that's a whole other thing that, you know, talking about radiation from cell phones. I always, I've always not, you know, slept next to my cell phone. I always, I've always not, you know, slept next to my cell phone. I don't want it near my brain. I mean, and again, I don't know the links between it. Everyone says that's a bit worrying because so you would think though that the phones are so powerful now, you know, the smartphones, they're a lot bigger, that 5G, everyone's holding them against their heads. I mean, is there a ginormous increase in cancers on the side of the head that people

hold their phones? You know? And what's the work around that? Just like everyone uses Bluetooth all the time? What did Robert say that? He just puts it on a speaker phone, right? Yeah. Speaker phone or a headset?

Yeah. And also the link between some breast cancers. Maybe there's a link with women who hold, you know, some women just put it in their shirt, at the top of their shirt, and their phones just sitting next to their boob all day. That doesn't seem like a good thing. Right.

I mean, I just don't think it would hurt if even the cell phone companies were brave enough to come out and go, yeah, just so you know, this is an incredible tool. Super useful. Everyone's going to have it because you can't get rid of your smartphone now. You know, you can be one of those flip phone nodes, but let's be honest, that shit doesn't last for long. Gotta get back on Twitter. Yeah, but that's gonna end up in lawsuits. But if they, yeah, that's true. I guess they just can't admit to any. Fuck no. But it would just be so much nicer if we could like live in a time where they're like,

yeah, just so you know, it's like not great to use it all the time next to your head. So we recommend speak of phone and using headsets. Just a bit of transparency. Absolutely. But I think we should just all err on the side of caution here and not put them next to our boob or our put them in our pockets all day on which we all do. I don't think there's any way around that one. You think it's like cooking our balls? Maybe.

If it's not supposed to be by your head, I don't want to buy my balls either. It probably isn't helping with fertility. If it's you're just balls are getting radiated all day. Yeah. Radiation all day. I'll tell you what, it's a little scary to go down these rabbit holes because if it's almost like, when I advise my friends not to watch the news too much,

because they often are just getting really anxious all the time and just constantly want to talk about it. And it's just the slippery slope. So I just say, hey, just take a break. You're gonna be okay. And then they're like, no, I need to be informed. I need to know. It's like, okay. But you're also like inundating yourself with a lot of fear. Like it's good to be educated. And it's definitely good that people talk about these things. But even in this one like three hour thing,

I'm like, er, like looking around, thinking, should I buy a better bricter water? Oh, absolutely. You should. You know, everyone should do the brittar, dude. So what, what was the deal with Wi-Fi then? So the Russians understand the Wi-Fi can be used as a kind of weapon, I guess, if you like, really turn the frequencies up, but, you know, we're all being hit by Wi-Fi all the time. There's almost no way you can ever be where there's no Wi-Fi Right, so this is happening all the time And what is happening here? Well now Wi-Fi is fairly new, right? I mean we haven't had it that long when did they start making Wi-Fi like Accessible everywhere. I would say starting in the early 2000s. Probably. Yeah. Probably so. I mean, think about, you know, when did we start getting phones in the late 90s?

We had flip phones, right? None of us really were carrying around iPhones. All of us and probably until later 2000s, like 0708. Yeah, I think that's when the iPhone came out. Right. But there was still, there was still towers everywhere. But I think again, the towers have become stronger. The radiation at least, I think in 5G, again, we don't fucking know. But again, we just don't know. And it's not like the companies are doing studies on it,

because why would they? Like, oh, just so you guys know, these are really dangerous. Yeah. They're not going to fucking tell us that. Of course they're not. And, you know, I think a super compelling point, or not even a point, just a statement that RFK made is, if he were to become president on day one, he would make an executive order no more pharmaceutical companies are allowed to advertise. That's fucking awesome.

Yeah, amen to that. Well, what a New Zealand in here, right? Only two countries in the world. Yeah, they are allowed. It just seems like such a conflict of interest that's a really dangerous one. I mean, think about it, they've removed cigarette advertising from television

from a long time ago. And, you know, they still sell a shitload of cigarettes. So I don't know how damaging that even was to them, but at least it was like the government trying. And then they banned it from bars. They banned it from a bunch of other places. Not Idaho, baby. Well, they would go not Vegas. Definitely not Vegas. Definitely not Vegas. But, you know, I think the Joe camel stuff, right? You can't, that was more of an advertisement to children, right? Because they're created to cool.

Yeah, Joe cool, man. Yeah. And what else, dude? Gosh, the Rolling Stone article that came out, it was the only, really the only place, according to RFK, that he was able to have an open form about these vaccines that you know the studies that were happening and everyone just kind of turned them into a you know this crazy lunatic who didn't know what he was talking about right away. And that was that was early 2000s. Yes. It's been that way ever since this poor guy has just

been getting hounded for just trying to come up with some, the truth. I don't think he has an agenda other than he wants to figure out the truth and the, the safety for children. Right. He truly seems to just want to know what's going on. Yeah, just like set a precedent for like a little bit of transparency. Yeah. Like, hey, the culture thinks all of this is really good. And I want to talk about these problems and these lawsuits and then

people can make their own minds up. Yeah, and if it's not real prove it, cool. I just want to know the truth. Well, if it wasn't real, I don't think either one, almost any of these lawsuits. Right. So there's definitely something there, but it's like the lawsuit gets won and you know, people don't find out or they don't even have to change anything. This podcast is brought to you by Factor. Now that it's summer, you might be looking for a wholesome, convenient meals for sunny,

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where if you hear all this stuff and he seems to live like a normal person, but I could almost imagine him even coming in with a tinfoil hat on in the sense of stopping the rays. It's like, what do we need to buy jackets that repel frequencies and how do you even eat? You would have to just grow all of your own food, organically, and hunt to get this stuff away. And that doesn't even account for water. It's like, how do you even clean the water enough?

Yeah, I mean, look, I've noticed the difference, just speaking of water, I moved to a new apartment and there's a well there, right? The water, and maybe it's in all in my head apartment and there's a well there, right? The water, and maybe it's in all in my head, maybe it's a placebo effect, it tastes so much better. There's just something about it. It reminds me of the difference between organic milk and fucking milk that has a bunch of pesticides and hormones and stuff from cows and whatnot. I mean, there's just like, there's a huge difference in taste and flavor.

Have you noticed that with milk? I believe it. Yeah. I believe it. I do notice it with eggs. If you buy those, if you buy those like expensive eggs, and they don't that much more. Dude, there's so much better for you. They just look so much better.

They taste so much better. Absolutely. Right. And that like, deep, like yellow. There's like a darker yellow. All-Rinjal most. Yep. And then the cheap ones, the shell just cracks like nothing.

Yeah. And it's just kind of like translucent. Yeah. Like it's telling you something. It's like the difference between, you know, a hunted piece of Elk steak, how red it is and how amazing. And then something that you buy at the store That, yeah, just kind of looks flat. Like, it has something in it.

Well, and I also wanted to bring up the Remdesiver in the Ivermectin subject, because, you know, Joe was getting so much heat for taking Ivermectin and the CNN article that came out or the news reel where they changed the color of his face. That alone, if people aren't questioning that, it's so embarrassing. article that came out or the news reel where they changed the color of his face, that alone. If people aren't questioning that, it's so embarrassing. It's just, I mean, it's a flat out, it's a blatant cry of fraudulent activity in my mind. I wonder how close he was to suing them. It's crazy.

And I'm looking up right now, like, Merck and Pfizer COVID-19 antiviral so they're talking about how Ivermectin and rim-deserver are both potential Repurpose drugs again SARS-CoV-19 or coven 2 so this is already saying that It's resulting in an enhanced antiviral activity against COVID both of them used together Which is what Rogan did. Right. From a doctor. So why are people getting so much heat for using hypermecting? Maybe because it's way cheaper.

I don't know. Well, it was cheap and it was already available. Right. And if it existed and they said that it was actually not just a cure, but something that could help reduce this problem, they couldn't roll out that emergency medical act that allowed them to just, you know, steamroll this whole vaccine. That's the scariest thing in my mind is there was just not enough studies on it. There's just not, there was no studies because it had to get out so fast and everybody just

went on the wagon, they just joined up with everyone and just followed the herd. Plenty of doctors spoke out though early on, smart ones. Yeah, but they got canceled off of YouTube and they got threatened and shut down. They lost funding. I mean, that stuff was really nasty and dangerous. I got, I got jabbed, you know, I was scared. I was fearful. Uh huh.

A lot of people were. A lot of people were. I mean, that's what you're hearing and make sense. If someone's like, Hey, bears are running around your neighborhood, stay indoors. Like do you stay indoors right away or do you go outside and try and find where the bears are? I mean, it makes sense that your initial thing from the people that you expect to protect you,

giving you a warning, you're gonna follow it, at least for a bit, so it totally makes sense. But then after a while, if people were like, hey, you know what, I've been inside for a couple of weeks, I haven't seen one bear bad none of my neighbors have. You shouldn't be canceled for asking questions like that. Right. It should be allowed to be suspicious.

And the scary thought and this happened in the 80s and they both talked about this. Rogan has talked about it in the past about how when Reagan became president, there was a new, um, what did he call it? It was sorry. I don't have it in my notes right now, but it was about how Vax, became president, there was a new, what did he call it? It was, sorry, I don't have it in my notes right now, but it was about how people who vaccinate you, the companies that vaccinate you are no longer eligible to be sued

or have any sort of, right, they became immune from prosecution. Thank you, which sounds, because that's where they lose most of their money, you know? That's like where all the risk is. Yeah. And so why would they be doing that if there wasn't some sort of harmful thing that they're scared about?

You got a wonder. And now what is it with the COVID thing? It's they can't get prosecuted for 70 years. Is that what it was? No, they don't even have to release. I think they don't have to release the data for like 70 years. How the fuck does that get passed unless money's just getting thrown around like nothing? Well, one thing it clearly is doing is it's getting everyone that's in those positions

today completely off the hook. Right. They're all we did. Like that's not. There's just too many questions to be had and if people aren't questioning what's going on, then they're not listening to what's happening in my mind. They're not doing themselves any favors. I mean, but he's the hard part, right?

And I think this might be why Rogan had him on. So Rogan had Theo on last week. And Theo was like really shaken by the fact that his, uh, Robert Kennedy interview was taken off of YouTube will demonetize. So he got a strike for that. So it's off now. I'm not 100% sure, but I think so.

And it was definitely demonetized and he got a strike for it. Well, what starts, remember, Theo does a comedy podcast. This isn't politics, this isn't science and medicine and, you know, a conspiracy theory show. I mean, theory show is hilarious. I fucking love that show. I can listen to that guy talk all day. I think he's brilliant. He's wonderful. And so he gets a strike and now he's worried about who to have on and he's not sure if he can have Robert back on

and he probably feels terrible about it. And you know, that message goes out to a lot of other people, right? They're making a good amount of their living on YouTube and then it's like they have to start self-sensoring themselves. Yeah. That was hard to say. Say that 10 times. Self-sensoring.

Self-sensoring. Self-sensoring. Se-sensoring. Seatials. But yeah, so in Tyson too, Tyson's post-sensored interview with RFK on Rumble after YouTube censorship. So now Rumble's doing it too. Wow. I don't know if Rumble did it.

Mike Tyson post-sensored interview with RFK Jr. Oh, he posted it on Rumble after it was censored off of youtube so rumble let it happen i think this is why people are yeah rumble yeah fuck yeah rumble love rumble uh i think this is why people are going over that you know definitely why rogan decided a while ago to leave um youtube and go over to spot Spotify because he was getting tired of trying to find answers of why this was happening. And everyone should be scared about this no matter what you believe whether you think vaccines are good or bad there should be an open forum and debate about it. In the 70s they debated stuff all the

time on television with different views. We don't do that anymore. Everyone just hates each other now. You have to say these are. My side's better than your side. I'm right, you're wrong. How the fuck is that doing anyone any good? It's not good, it's very far. It's ridiculous.

You were just fighting all the time, which in my mind is what they want. That's what politicians want us to be doing. It's fighting all the time. No one's coming up with any sort of research and debate about what they want. It's not good, it's very far. It's ridiculous.

You were just fighting all the time, which in my mind is what they want. That's what politicians want us to be doing. It's fighting all the time. No one's coming up with any sort of, you know, research and debate about any sort of topics anymore. It's either I'm right, you're wrong, you're right, I'm wrong. That is so horrible for the future of this nation. If we want to talk about freedom of speech, it is first amendment. Hello. Yeah. Was it fucking, is it right? It's the first amendment. It is. Yeah. Come on. It's in there for a reason. First one, hello. Yeah, was it? Is it right? It's the first amendment. It is, yeah. Come on. It's in there for a reason.

First one, dude. I think it's important. But now we have this. That's America. Now we have this huge way of communicating, which somehow is outside of the standard realms of communication. This isn't like freedom of the press or like just what you're allowed to say in the street. It's like our real, you

know, communal forums now on these social media platforms, which are heavily controlling different areas. I mean, whatever. Thank you all for Elon Musk, you know, buying Twitter and allowing this to kind of come back, right? It's like otherwise, where the hell do we go? I wanted to read that Mark Twain quote that Kennedy read, it's easy to fool a man, then persuade him he's been fooled.

Right. And that's something to think about. Makes a lot of sense. I'm sure it happens to all of us. No one wants to admit that we were fooled. They don't believe it, They don't want to believe it. No. And maybe we weren't fooled. But the question has to be debated. Yeah. Can we look at it? We fucking stopped the country in the world for two years. Trillions of dollars. So why can't we talk about it openly now? We just try to figure out what is going on.

It's just like move on.org. Thanks later. Yeah, that one I recommend highly check it out. It's, it's a lot. It really is. I had to listen to it twice, but it was worth it. And, um, you know, and let's get Peter, Dr. Peter Hotez on to debate RFK. Come on, buddy. Yeah, I wonder how we can encourage that.

Let's hear your side, man. We just want to hear your side. If you know that it's true and it's science-backed, come on. I think he's just scared that he's going to get ganged up on. Well, the poor guys already getting ganged up on. Well, the poor guy's already getting ganged up on for the Twitter comments. I mean, he's probably getting death threats, but so RFK's probably gonna be getting death threats since the 80s, so get used to it, man. If you wanna debate this stuff,

people are gonna have opinions, but it needs to get out there. I agree. I agree. All right, let's jump over to Cam Haines on a slightly lighter note. Yeah. Good old Cam.

Cameroles. So they got a new killclift drink called Elk Blood. Oh, yeah. LOL. With CBD. Of course, it's Elk Blood. What was it? Was it like strawberry something or cherry?

Is it cherry? Yeah, dark cherry. There we go. I want to try it. Let's get some. But yeah, and Cam is now, I guess he's quit his job because he had a government job and he's quit that. So he's full time just being Cam Haynes. And then they started around started a podcast, right? Started a podcast going

very well. What did he say? He was like giving away a 10, $10,000 and a truck give away as like a give back to the fans. Man, he must be doing well if you can do that. Cameron Haynes.com. Yeah. I actually always thought he had a podcast, but I guess he was just a guest on a lot of different shows. Well, he's had Tulsi Gabbard on.

Who else? Danny Duncan. Good had Tulsi Gabbard on. Who else? Danny Duncan. Good old Tulsi. Huge fan. He hasn't had a ton yet. He has one, two, three, four, five. It looks like he has 11 episodes out. So it's pretty, pretty new.

Well, pretty good. Check it out. I mean, look, I'm sure Rogan's hooked him up with all the right people in the industry to talk to and get sponsors and get the ball rolling. Yeah, to be interesting to see how that goes. Cam's on the keto diet, which is always something that, when he was first coming on Rogan,

I think he and Rogan talked about it way back and he didn't seem that bothered. He had his way of doing life and just ran and that was it. But he was also taking a lot of ibuprofen early on and Rogan got him over to I think CBD. CBD is way better. And that really helped him out. So he's just probably, as he's got older, just been on a bit of a mission to reduce that inflammation. So it's cool to hear, you know, how he feels

and how that works. That's another one of those misconceptions. People still don't believe that you can eat high fat and protein and basically no carbs and you'll be healthier. They just don't believe it. Well, we've been fed the food pyramid since what, the 60s is when that started? Mm-hmm.

God, that fucking food pyramid. Bread. Bread is so good for you, that wheat bread. Well, you gotta say whole grains, cause it's whole grains full of glyphosate. Yum. You want celiac disease? Eat more bread.

Yeah, you wanna be tired. Old day. You wanna be up and? Eat more bread. Yeah, you want to be tired all day. You want to be up and down all day long. So fun. That would be a great set of commercials. Let's launch your own bread. Right. Tom Papa's new bread. Tom Papa and it's just, is just talking about how many.

It's Tom Papa. No, Tom Papa is one of Joe's really good friends. And he comes on Rogan as a comedian. We've reviewed him before. He comes on and he always brings bread. And he has like a bread show now. So he loves bread. It's the only time Rogan eats bread, but it's a Tom Papa bread. And he just talks about how many naps you have to have all day, every day. Yeah. Oh man. Yeah, get on the keto folks, get it done. I mean, Joe's had excellent results from it.

He said he lost some weight, he's leaned up, he's like mostly eating like that all the time now. Probably a smart move if you're very athletic and physical in your fifties because, you know, you're probably noticing as you age, and I definitely do, like I'm way more tired after I eat a pizza now than I was in my 20s, right? Everything starts to slow down and you just get it,

you just kind of get more sensitive to those sorts of things. I think nachos is my biggest, the hardest thing not to eat, if I'm gonna be on that diet, because we both tried it, you've tried it a lot more than I have. But when we were eating steaks every day, fuck, I had a lot of energy. It's good, right? You got to buy good steak, though. I think that's the misconception. Rogan talks about a lot. You know, he can, he can get elk meat. He's got elk meat. If that to me seems like the best way to do it, you eat the, you eat the meat when it's coming from, you know, an animal that's eating fucking grass and

trubs all day and out in the wild. Yeah, you got to be a lot healthier. You want to add some tallow to it, or some butter. There you go. You know, really cook it up nice there, get some fats in there because it's quite lean. Grass for meat. But of course it's grass fed. It's an elk. Right. What else is it? No, I'm saying with the butter. Oh yeah, yeah, but yeah. Try and get the good stuff. What's the, that Irish stuff that's really good? It's a, two, something with a K. Shit.

Was it Irish best or something? I don't know. Carry gold. Carry gold, carry gold. Yeah, but, uh, off topic a little bit, but wasn't Hugh Rubin saying that the butter, there's really no connection in healthy butter.

Oh, like shitty butter and yeah, you said there was a huge difference. And that might not be, you know, there might not be. But so maybe that's not as much of a priority. I'm sure better quality meat is just going to be more important and those expensive ass eggs get them. And come on, steak doesn't taste really that good without butter. Yeah. It's so much better. Well, it's funny when I have friends that are trying to lose weight or get in shape. And even from people they train with, that are like personal trainers,

they get them on these diet plans, it's always like lean chicken and fucking broccoli, and then some rice or potatoes. And it just doesn't, like sure, it's probably better than what they were eating, which is chicken, McNuggets, and pizzas, and loads of bread. So there would be some results, but it's just not going to fuel you in the right way. Yeah, I mean potatoes, it depends on the potato too, right? Where you're getting it from, but if you're going to go potatoes, I would think you got to go

where you're getting it from. But if you're gonna go potatoes, I would think you gotta go yams and sweet potatoes. Yeah, like sweet potatoes. Yeah, that's gonna... That's gonna weigh better for you than a fucking russet. Yeah, just like kind of educate yourself if you are gonna eat those carbs, like educate it on just kind of the right order of,

you know, depending on how they kind of spike your glycemic stuff. I think rice, though, generally is not great. Even though I love rice, I do absolutely well. And Rogan has mentioned plenty of times about getting the, the test done to see what you're allergic to. Mm hmm. I need to do that. I've always wanted to do that because I want to have good those all though.

Well, a lot of people are allergic to potatoes. And again, is that from what's getting sprayed on potatoes? What's, what gets sprayed on potatoes? I don't know. Glyphosate. No, I don't think it's glyphosate. I'm going to figure it out though. Have a look.

Have a look. Well, look at even the rigorous testing Joe did for alpha brain, which I thought was really cool. So they paid for this study out of the Boston Institute of Memory or whatever, and then they actually saw positive results, which is cool. And then they also wanted to test what was in it,

you know, just to kind of guarantee what they're saying is on the bottle. And they found out there was a bunch of other shit and mixed in. And he had to go back and find a new supplier. Oh, because stuff made in like India and other places. I think it's just like big vats. So he makes a bunch of shit up there and you know, gets messy.

What they talking about oregano and stuff like that, like they're like they're chopping up olive leaves in oregano. I don't know. It's a different thing, but it's similar in fashion, right? It's just using cheaper ingredients to sell these things. Kind of, yeah. I think that what Rogan was finding is it was more like just sloppy cleaning of the vats. Oh, okay.

You know, they were running different supplements through it all the time, and you know, they're just not separating all those things out. And that's not required. It wasn't required full-rogan to do that to sell this product, but he just felt, I think, better about what he was doing, which just kind of highlight like how sloppy are a lot of these supplements. Probably pretty bad.

I bet a ton of them are contaminated. Well, I just looked up the amount of herbicides used in potato farming and there's like 50 different ones. And the last one is glue focinate. I'm guessing that has, I don't know if that's the same as glyphosate or if it's just a part of the family of elements there, but I'd say go organic when you can. Right. Because they're spraying a bunch of the family of elements there, but I'd say go organic when you can. Right.

Cause they're spraying a bunch of shit. Spraying a bunch of shit, dude. And no one talks about that really either. How hot is it to make a god in? I feel like we know that. It's not that hard. Can you feed your, like how much land do you need to feed your whole family?

It's hard in Montana because of the weather. I think it's always, it's weather dependent, dude. It's good in Montana because of the weather. I think it's always knowing. Weather dependent, dude. There was a farm here in town a couple of weeks ago that got hail damage. They lost like 80% of their crop. Oh, Jesus. Yeah, because it was still in the younger phases. And it just, you know,

if you don't have that stuff covered up and you don't have a greenhouse, then you could be putting in a lot of time and effort and then all of a sudden your crop could get damage with frost or whatever, but I think in some of the warmer climates, yeah, everyone should have their own garden. Yeah, it could be grown a lot of things. Or at least a good chunk of it. Something, you know, get some squash.

I love squash. Squash good. I guess some cobs and squash, but that's all right. Squash cobs, they're fun. Why do you think Rogan doesn't eat many veggies? What's the deal there? Well, it's just part of the carnival diet. I mean, there are some carbs in there. They're just saying carbs. There's too many carbs in veggies, really? Yeah, there are some.

And usually, they usually have too much sugar. I think it's usually like fiber and stuff. There's not a lot of sugar, really, and vegetables or certain vegetables, maybe tomatoes. Well, that's a fruit, but tomato. Tomato. Tomato. But yeah, I mean, ultimately, it's like, you can, if you do the carnival right, you can get all the nutrients from that. As long as you eat some organ meats, you know, liver king. There you go. Well, liver king. Yeah, but liver king is a fraud. Yeah, he's a nut. He's a psycho. He said it was my, he's gone. Liver king 2.0 has definitely gone off the rails, I would say. The last bit I wanted to talk about, which was kind of back to Pfizer, but it was a little

scary, is that guy that wants to put the chips in pills? Oh, was that the WHO? Yeah, I think so. It was like, I think it was the Pfizer guy though. Okay, I had in my notes the requiring a digital vaccine, which they didn't go into much detail. But this is different. Well, this is literally a chip in a pill to know if you've taken it and it's been properly digested. And what's the point of having the chip in there?

Well, to make sure you took your medication. That's fucked up, though. And then the little sound bite that they played talked about, imagine the compliance. Now, I guess, the magic nica blight. Right. Always sounds creepy when they say stuff.

She's so creepy. So creepy. But, you know, I guess if it's like a mental institution, possibly, or a prison, where there's requirements requirements where you have to take the pills, you know, some people will go off the rails if they don't. Yeah, nurse ratchet will kick your ass. Right. It's like maybe then it makes sense, but how far does that go?

That's the concern. It's like when, you know, the next pandemic comes and then now it's a requirement. You're like at the airport and they scan everyone's stomach to make sure that you took whatever it is. Yeah, and again, it comes back to this thing. It seems to me that the only reason they would wanna make sure people are compliant is so that they could put rules on it later. Like if you don't take it, then what?

You can't go on a plane, you can't do this, you can't do that. More rules, rules, rules, rules, rules, fuck your rules. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

Right? Why else? Are they really concerned about our health that much? They want to make sure that we're taking our pills? No. Why would they be concerned about that? Only because they want to make sure that you keep buying them. Correct.

That's what they want. Hello. Hello. Hello. Please buy our pills. For compliance. You did not take our pills. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello, please buy up pills for compliance. You did not take out a pills, I find you. Yeah. You can't ride on this plane.

Can't go on this bus. Man, that shit is scary. I mean, it's a possibility, right? It's something you need to watch out for early because before you know it, you're in a world where they're doing that to you. Or you're in a world where when pandemics happen, there's 40 new billionaires in the world. Yeah, that one right, so.

Over a two year period. Yeah. Okay. That's 40 new billionaires. We're not talking about millionaires. Huh. It's like one a week. Yeah. Well, what is it, 56?

52. 52. Yeah, almost. I mean, where all that money come from, came from someone, came from someone, came from the middle class or poor people, all the people that lost that job. So, well, and speaking of the middle class, we have all this inflation going on and no expert here, guys, but who's, who's feeling the brunt of this the most middle class? And poor people. Right. Middle class and poor. Mm-hmm mainly middle class I would imagine. But we talk about inflation and we're trying to,

you know, the government's trying to fix it and this and that. We're sending all this money for war that we're eventually paying for. Uh-huh. Through inflation. Yeah. We're paying for it right now. Yeah. We are paying for that war right now. It's like sometimes I think when people say, oh yeah, we just sent a hundred billion dollars. It's like, hold on. Yeah, we should paying for that war. Right now. Sometimes I think when people say, oh yeah, we just sent a hundred billion dollars, it's like, hold on. Yeah, we should break that down. We should break that down. The people did.

Yeah, imagine if a bill came to your house and they were like, yeah, we need a $2,700 from you for this. Yeah. No one would be sending that to us. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I can. I mean, even if I wanted to support it, I can't. I live in paycheck to paycheck. But they just take it from us from the back end. It's like, why wait till we actually just pay, they're just like, well, you're paying eventually,

because you have to. And we will find you if you don't take it in medicine for compliance. On that note, guys, I hope this wasn't all too depressing, but stay vigilant. You know, keep asking questions. Stay vigilant. You know, keep asking questions. Stay vigilant. You know, keep your eyes open, ask questions, you know, be suspicious.

All of those things are good. This is what makes the Rogan universe so interesting to pay attention to. Yeah, and just debate it out, people talk about it. Love that. All right, thanks a lot, guys. We're talking to you next week. Peace out.