Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 337 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Tom Segura Et al.

Episode Date: July 13, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey guys and welcome to another episode of the JRE review. This week we are reviewing Tom Segura. Just had his new special hit Netflix and it's fucking hilarious. The best comedy special of the year in my opinion. And then also the wild man that is UFC fighter Sean Strickland. He is a wild man. Let's get into it. You are listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast.
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Starting point is 00:00:52 Might either be the worst podcast or the best one. Two, one, go. Enjoy the show. Alright, we're into it. Segura. You watched the special? Oh yeah, I watched it last night. I had two before this pod. Dude, how good is that? Love him.
Starting point is 00:01:08 He's on fire, dude. I love his wife, too. She's the best. She's freaking hilarious. Those two together. Uh-huh. So funny. They just make fun of each other all the time.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Yeah. It's great. They have like the best just humor with each other back and forth. I wonder how that is like help their relationship or not. Right. Yeah, because it's always banter. Like, is it just always that way? Or is it only when they're on the air?
Starting point is 00:01:31 Who knows? I bet they play around a lot though. Like that having a good time. For sure. What was that? She was talking about like, Tom, I think you would only like me. I can't remember what special was on. It was on one of their deals anyway.
Starting point is 00:01:44 She was like, Tom, I think you would like me more if I was, if I had was on one of their deals. I think he would like me more if I had just fuck a lot of people. I was just a porn star, then you'd like me so much more. She was just getting into it. That's hilarious. In two beds, one cave, him and both have an interview to bunch of porn stars for whatever reason. They must have a thing about that. That's pretty funny.
Starting point is 00:02:07 You know, you have to have a good sense of human to be married to either of those two though. Right. Like, bird or a tom. It's like, imagine if you didn't. They have wild animals. Wouldn't work. No.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Wouldn't work. Especially bird. The sledgehammer. Yeah. Such a good special. Huge venue that he was in too. I mean, that was massive. You know, it's cool because it's really cool
Starting point is 00:02:32 to watch comedians do a massive venue when they do their specials, but it's also really, it's different and just as good when a big comedian chooses a small room for whatever reason. Like it just works in its own way. It's just different. I like it.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Well, you could just tell, he, I mean, with Segera, he's done so many shows. Now, I don't know what show that was that they filmed. Do you know what show that was? It was in Arizona, right? But like, how many was he done with before he filmed that special? Because he was just so on point.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Oh, dude, he would have been working on that for at least a year. Yeah. And he would have gone on tour with that already. And it's, I think it's usually the end of their tour, the day to the special because then it's punched up. Right. You know, it's crisp. They've been practicing that a long time.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I mean, he's literally said the exact same thing over and over. Oh, 300 plus times. Right. So, you know, and changing little bits all the time. I mean, by the time they get there, it's just, it's a fun day for them, like they're having a good time. I think my favorite parts are when he talks about his, with his mom and he does his mom's accent.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Does it the best? That was right at the end there. Yeah. That was my favorite part. Yeah, he got his mom too high. Oh, yeah He actually posted that video on his Instagram. Okay. And he's just him and his mom outside on like this patio. Yeah, like porch area Just laughing her ass as well Hey, look I'm proud of him for keeping the weight off. I mean, he, he's looking
Starting point is 00:04:05 like a stud. Yeah, man, he's way into it. I mean, they talked probably for a half hour about just the regimen and getting up every day, going to the gym, setting out how, how, because he heard himself, that's probably why he was so strict about it. It was a big part of it. Yeah. I mean, he really focused on that and the idea that now that he's heard himself and never be back, you know, because when you're injured or when you're sick, the only thing you want in the world is to not be injured and not be sick. So it's during that time, even though it's hard, it's like one of those moments that really makes you think, holy shit, I need to commit to this.
Starting point is 00:04:39 And he'd already had some good momentum from the first sober October. He lost quite a lot of weight after that, which was impressive. But on the other hand, his state exactly the same, probably got a little bit better. So it doesn't work for everyone. He's got his ups and downs though.
Starting point is 00:04:57 He'll come back. He does. We gotta keep him alive though. He's the national treasure. But it's good to see Tom in that kind of shape. And then also talking about the keto being effective or the carnival diet. I know that these things are almost a bit overly talked about on Instagram and maybe podcasts and things like this. And there's
Starting point is 00:05:21 still this kind of stigma about it being this semi-sudo-science approach, you know, because it doesn't fit the fucking dumb food, pyramid or whatever. But I say to anybody that struggles with energy, focus, like especially losing weight, like give that a try. Give it a try. You don't have to do it for long. And, you know, I think for a lot of people, it could work very well for them. And do that allergy test, too. All right, you think that was a good?
Starting point is 00:05:50 I wanna do it. I don't know, because I haven't done it, but I've heard good things about doing the allergy test to figure out what foods work well with your body, what foods work well with your blood type. Yeah, I mean, I would be into it if I believe that it was like 100% spot on yeah, and they're like yeah This is all the things to me. It sounds I know they're doing actual lab testing
Starting point is 00:06:11 But it does sound a little bit like you know Just some like hippie science. I mean maybe it's it's more to the to the point. Yeah, if you eat a ton of Potatoes for some reason potatoes for some reason. For some reason, a lot of people are not, what do they call those, the nightshade? Nightshades. If you eat those, chilies, capsicin, what is it, eggplant? There's a lot of stuff there. I'm actually, I know I'm not supposed to eat many nightshades.
Starting point is 00:06:42 So what happens when you eat them? I have a layer a skin rash. Oh, okay. Yeah, I get a rash and they connect that to nightshades, but they connect it to a lot of things as well. It really any processed food, drinking a lot, stress, I mean, but it's just kind of in those categories of stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:01 And a lot of times when I've done keto or when I've done especially carnival because carnival wouldn't have any nightshades right. Right. Doesn't have any gluten, doesn't have any nightshades, doesn't really have much processed food if you're doing it well. So it's hard to tell what it is in the thing that makes me feel better. It might be just one of the things that's getting rid of all that other bullshit. Well, they say that about even vegan diets.
Starting point is 00:07:28 It's like, some people feel real good on vegan, some people feel real good on carnival or keto. And then it's like, is it really those foods or is it the lack of the shitty foods? Right. And I've got a sneaky feeling, it's the lack of it. Well, and see, that's why it seems to me like that getting the test done would actually help
Starting point is 00:07:47 you because like you said, some people feel really good on a vegan diet and other people feel tired all the time. Yeah, again, assuming that they they're working, right? Yeah. I mean, maybe it comes up with some response and it's like, yep, you something happened with potatoes here, but really potatoes on. But I just don't know how good they are. Look, if we just quit drinking so much and went to the gym more, we could probably eat
Starting point is 00:08:09 excuse me. God. Jesus, Louise, we could eat maybe some shittier foods every once in a while and it wouldn't really affect us as bad. I think it's just really how much shittier foods are you actually eating on a day to day to pay. Well, they talked about, you know, that time Joe had some burger and milkshake combo and it was amazing and super delicious.
Starting point is 00:08:30 And afterwards he was like, ugh, like his brain wasn't working, he could barely move, he's like, why? Why did I do that? Every time I eat Wendy's when I think it's a good idea after a few too many beers. Oh yeah, we'll talk about on the way home. Oh, because it's the only place open. Yeah, I don't think that that's food. We really need to investigate.
Starting point is 00:08:50 It's just, ah. What it, so they talk about this a lot, these social ideas, these social hot topics, right? They went into it quite a bit. And we've talked about this many times. It over and over and over again, trying to get people fighting at each other. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:08 And just keep us busy. Yeah, it made so much sense. Like, let's stop getting distracted. And Joe says this over and over again, we're so much alike. We forget that we're alike because we're so distracted by all these social. Right. By the way, by like the one or two things that we disagree on.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Yeah. And then for some reason, I don't know how it happens, but it happens that everyone happens to me sometimes. If I get, if I go down to rabbit hole, the particular story, all of a sudden, I'm like, yeah, that's fucking bullshit. And I'm like telling people, and I realize, wait a second, am I now working for the narrative?
Starting point is 00:09:43 You are. But for free. Yeah, stop doing that. Yeah, I get to stop doing that. I barely do it. Okay. I'm fairly actually. I mostly talk about aliens and when we're going to find them. And that's more fun. That's more fun. Yeah. I mean, there's just so many divisive issues right now. This podcast is brought to you by Bird Dogs. Bird Dogs are stretch khaki shorts designed to fit slimmer through the thigh and leg giving you a truly Sculpted look bird dogs make you look good
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Starting point is 00:11:31 People get all worked up. Look, I understand I don't think trans people should, um, you know, a biological male should not be in competition with a biological female. That does not make sense to me. Other than that, I don't care what people do. I'm talking about sports sports. Right. that, I don't care what people do. I don't care what sports. Sports. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:47 But they can be sponsored by whoever they want. It just did make a lot of sense. Right. The bud light thing? Yeah. Yeah. It just doesn't fit. It's like think about how they find ads for this podcast.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Right? They do it based on if they think our audience will want the product, right? Like, it has to match. And that just didn't match. It didn't make sense. It was wonky. And then also quite funny.
Starting point is 00:12:16 I think the point though is we're getting so worked up over something that doesn't matter. Who cares? Who cares if they put a trans person on their can? I don't care. Yeah, they did make some funny memes though and I do support that. Funny memes are great. Funny memes are good all the time. All the time. Keep me entertained. Or like, you know, so I don't watch the news and they get all worked up. What else are we complaining about? I mean, drag shows. Oh, who cares about drag shows? I think drag
Starting point is 00:12:40 shows are great. They're hilarious. I don't think people are too worried about that, bro. That doesn't come up. Yeah, it is. It is. It is. And, you know, talking to, you know, yeah, obviously drag shows for kids, yeah, bad idea. But a ton of kids really go into drag shows. It seems like the big ones are just always the two parties, right? Versus the Trump, you know, take those documents, did the media and FBI cover up the Hunter Biden thing. It's like, anyone gets into talking to me about either of those things,
Starting point is 00:13:14 and my eyes just glaze over, maybe like, it's so frustrating. Because there isn't a conversation there. That's the thing that you notice. Immediately, There's no conversation. It's just two people Preaching each other like they work for their respective party Well because that's what they're being told and that's what they believe in yeah, and then it's just we're just Constantly a war and then we're not actually talking about the wars or the things that we're spending money on in the government Rather we're talking about things that don't really even matter that are just hot topics that are upsetting one another. And they're just fighting over stupid shit all the time.
Starting point is 00:13:53 And honestly, everyone would go down that kind of path if you spend enough time watching news and reading news. Which is the really sad part about it is because what we think we're doing is informing ourselves. That's the idea of it being formed. I know what's going on in the world, but really it's just some sort of indoctrination propaganda to get you all worked up. And it's the only way that you can think like how often do you read anything from a publication that you trust? And you're just like, hmm, yeah, I don't know if all that's true.
Starting point is 00:14:28 It's like, that's not really how your brain does it. Your brain reads it and it's like, oh, that's the information. There we go. I have it now. And we, if we were a bit more suspicious, then I think we could keep a dialogue going a bit better. Well, that's the worry, though, is that most of what's getting fed to us, left or right, we don't even know if it's true anymore, right? Yeah, we don't It just get to the gym instead good work out. Yeah, I was just gonna say I would rather and Sorry guys, I would rather be less informed right now And that's maybe that's what they want maybe that's what they want I want to make enough money so I can go to the river or, you know, feel good.
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Starting point is 00:15:15 Oh, that's great. Yeah, they're beautiful. Love them. But, you know, I want to hang out with my kid. You know what scares me the most? The kid thing freaks me out, you know, the teachers and am I just being fed this narrative that teachers are so concerned about? You know topics these days and gender. I don't know or is that just getting fed to me? I don't know because my kids only three. Well, they're probably not talking to them. They're mostly like coloring in and doing that time.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Well, now they are, but what is it like when he's in sixth and seventh grade? I don't know yet. I'm pretty sure you can go talk to the teachers and just get their view on it. Be like, hey, just wondered, this is what I'm hearing. What are you guys talking about in here? Does this come up? How do you present it? Just wanted to know.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Pretty sure they have to tell you. You know, so maybe, Maybe teachers should do that. I hope so. It really is up to the parent at the end of the day. Talk to your kids about all these things so that you're not in the dark about what is actually going on in their life. What are you doing at school? What were you taught today?
Starting point is 00:16:23 And if they say something crazy that maybe you don't believe in or don't think is right, yeah, go talk to the teacher or tell your kids what you believe to be true or what, just be a good person, right? Yeah, oh, you can talk to the kids a lot, right? Cause they're gonna come home and tell you stuff.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Yeah, I mean, sometimes my kid comes home and tells me, you know, he got bit and that's annoying, but, you know, through your old bite each other. Right. You know, I can't really stop that. Yeah. Can't stop kids from biting each other. You can.
Starting point is 00:16:54 But they love it. We should go back to it. Imagine the don't just bite each other. Hey. I don't know. I mean, my kid was hit in other kids the other day when we were on the river. He's hit in Jonas' little girl with a stick and you know, you just got to take him aside and explain to him Look man, that's not cool. You can't really get mad
Starting point is 00:17:12 I'm learning you like anger does not work with children. You have to sit down. That's good, right? Yeah, you just have to explain to them and then you don't want them to learn that the only way you're gonna Get your point across is by yelling. That's true because then they'd do it Right. Yeah, or they think that's the only way. Yeah, they're going to get their point across is by yelling or freaking out right So that's a lot of patience a lot of patience Well, that's where the cold plunge comes in my friend. Oh, that helps them. They were talking about that Oh, and I like the Joe throws down that hey, you can just run the bath and put some ice in that. If you have an ice maker in your fridge, freezer, then you're good all the time.
Starting point is 00:17:50 That thing fills up. You just dump it in there. It doesn't have to be frozen frozen. Everyone has access to it. What a great way to start your day. Just a cold shower, man. You could do that too. You got to turn on real cold and just sit there and wait for it.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Yeah. And just hold yourself in there. Is that as effective? I don't know if it does as a physician. It helps me. It's better than nothing. But that is a great way to start your day. If you're, especially I think if you're a little depressed
Starting point is 00:18:18 or you just find that you don't have really any energy in the morning, and I know it sounds like the last thing you want to try and do when you groggy and Worn out. But if you just give it a little bit and you can build up to it, especially with a shower, right? You can just do 30 seconds to start with. Just slowly build up to it, Just push ups. And that's why I love that these narratives Continue to pop up. Like people are like, oh, Rogan just always talks about the same things.
Starting point is 00:18:46 You know, this is like a criticism. You know, hunting or elk meat or whatever. It's like we need to be reminded a lot. All the time as humans, right? Well, discipline comes up so much. It's just discipline. When it comes to working out or taking the cold shower or doing the cold bath.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Yeah, it's like a freebie to make in your life 25% bath. I think better than that. Probably. I'm not good with percentages. No, but it's something about you feel better when you're challenged. That's all it is. It's that simple. If you're challenging yourself on a day-to-day basis, whether it's work, I know I feel
Starting point is 00:19:23 like shit. If I'm not doing good at work, if I'm being lazy, procrastinating, you feel like crap. It's just like, you gotta do hard stuff, and that comes up all the time. Because otherwise, what is weird about it is if you don't do the hard stuff, life is harder. So you're actually doing it anyway.
Starting point is 00:19:38 You're just not choosing when it comes. You're just putting it on. And it's way more uncomfortable when it's just like, oh, I'm just a fat slob Mm-hmm, and now I'm tired and my Bones ache and I didn't get shit done today Yeah, and then you feel like crap and so you want to eat crappier food because it makes you feel better for a minute You get that you get that boost of energy. Yeah, you straight over to Wendy's. You feel worse
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Starting point is 00:20:52 for 40% off your purchase site wide. Well, they did get into something interesting about what they teach you in schools too. And I've been thinking about this, like I'm about to have a kid and that's a lot of changes. And, you know, they're like, yeah, they don't teach you anything about money. They don't really teach you anything kind of useful
Starting point is 00:21:15 for life. And I guess that's a bit harsh, because you do need like basic arithmetic. You've got to learn the alphabet, you know, that's like the basis for like just kind of functioning. But I don't see why along the way they could teach you more things that you're going to have to use for the whole rest of your life. And the reason I say that is because how many adults, like we're in our forties, how many adults do we know
Starting point is 00:21:40 that still are struggling so much with like basic things. Tats is, that's a big one. That's a huge one. Getting ahead of that or budgeting. Budgeoning is, yeah, that's a big one. Of course. And it's not like intuitive. You don't just, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:59 it's almost like you're forced to figure it out. Even saving money or spending money and planning for a trip and just shit for life. Yeah, working at a restaurant, they should teach that in school for sure. But the good thing about school though, you have, we're social creatures, we have to be social. We, like, there's a lot of good socializing
Starting point is 00:22:20 that goes on for sure. That's the thing, that's the gripe that I have about home school is, I understand that people want about home school is I understand that people want to homeschool their kids, but there has to be both. They have to be socialized. They have to hang out with other children all the time
Starting point is 00:22:32 or else they're just gonna be full of anxiety. Weirdos, or just anxious all the time because they're not used to being around a ton of people. It's scary. But I think these days, if you have the means, there's like a lot of clubs and organizations and things that you can get them to. And I think especially in like the mid school age,
Starting point is 00:22:55 I don't know if that is like a very fun time for most kids. There's a lot of mean bullying kids are like really, you know, testing those, those things. And it's almost like trauma from midschool and high school can last into adulthood. Like I have friends even today that I know are not confident now. Because of what happened in middle school. Yeah, because of just rough months and weeks, even years that they had that just kind of broke them down. Yeah, but if you, so if you homeschool your children though, you have to be on point.
Starting point is 00:23:35 It's all on the parent, really. It's a lot. So if you're a lazy parent, then what's the good in that? You're just, you feel better that your kids aren't going to school and getting bullied, but then you're just setting them in front of a TV to watch something? Well, I mean, you got to structure it, right? I'm not saying it's easy.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Nothing's easy. Right. Or maybe there's a bit of both you can do, right? Yeah, look, there's a way to do it and a way not to do it, obviously. But I personally think that kids need to have those social experiences and if they're getting bullied Well, why are they getting bullied? What's what's going on there? And can you talk to your parents about that? Can you talk to a counselor about that? That's the hard part is that kids are scared to Reach out for help. Well, that's another thing that they talked about right wouldn't it be good if you had a class on
Starting point is 00:24:23 Emotions and dealing with emotions, right? I, they do talk a little bit or the least they did, I'm sure they do it more now, but when I was in school, they were like, you know, things that we did around bullying, just to kind of highlight what it is and how it affects people. I don't remember that. I don't know if it was like super effective, but they did have some of that, you know, it didn't seem to change like but they did have some of that, you know, it didn't seem to change like the bullies attitude towards stuff, but you know, but if you sat down and explained what jealousy is, right?
Starting point is 00:24:52 You gave examples of it. And the kids in there could like feel, oh yeah, that is how I am when I get jealous. And then you talk them through the process of how, you know, this doesn't really serve you. And it's gonna be okay and you don't need those things or you know that could be really or the reason you're getting bullied by someone is because the
Starting point is 00:25:14 the poor kid who's bullying you has a shitty household where his parents don't give a crap about him well exactly empathy like teaching them empathy it would it's hard though I get it because they're very young and they're not developed enough to have the space to think about empathy. Yeah, right. A lot of that comes from experience, but it doesn't hurt to start, I think.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Yeah, I mean, I think sports, for me, sports were always a thing that gave me the confidence, right? So I don't know what kids are doing today. If you're not in a sports team, that would be really hard to, in my mind, at that age, to gain the confidence that you need. That helped me so much was have been on a sports team, having a coach, you know, having someone you look up to, having a mentor. If you don't have all those things, then it's really hard to gain the confidence that you need. I think that's why sports are such a huge part of growing up, at least for me. It's like you need the comradery.
Starting point is 00:26:11 And you need to know how to lose and be okay with it. And to compete and learn to practice and work together as a team and all those things. Like that stuff is super important. And let your kids climb some trees without you know being scared Could be scary though. I think again You got like a goofy naughty kid that's clumsy. Well, you think you're gonna worry. You think about the 80s, right? It's like our parents would just let us go ride our bikes no helmets And I'm not I'm not saying helmets are bad helmets are great. Well, all kids should wear helmets
Starting point is 00:26:40 But we all turned out okay well some of us Some of us are a bit slow. Go outside, ride your bike for the next five hours or three hours and come back for dinner. That's not happening anymore. Kids are just sitting inside. They don't play enough. They just need to be outside.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Get them playing. Get them playing. Yeah. Get like the most exhausting toys so that you just worn out. He's got wear them out, run around in a circle as fast as you can. What about the guy, the comedian that Tommy was talking about, that begged him to get on stage.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Oh yeah. And this is early days, and like when I did stand up, these kind of things would happen. I mean, I was like, you know, a basic open micer, really. So a lot of times we were just looking to fill a show, we didn't mind too much of it, bomb. If it was like a page show, and you know, we could pick people that we knew were better and we'd usually, it's because we've seen their stuff. Yeah, you knew what it was like. Yeah, so you're like, all right, this guy can handle
Starting point is 00:27:44 it. But a lot of open mics are you're just trying to fill spots up, it doesn't matter, right? Even some shows are like that. But so this guy asks him, begs him, hey, let me on the show. And Tom's like, all right, I'll talk to the guy hosting. The guy says, yeah, it gets up there, bombs. Terrible.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Ass again, let me do it again. I'll do better, I'll do a different set. Does the same freaking set. Bones. Let me do it again. I'll do better. I'll do a different set. Does the same freaking set. On sucks. Tom's super embarrassed. But the whole time he's looking at this guy's website that's like bad ass. And this is like back in the day when people didn't really have cool websites.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Yeah, it was business card too. Yeah, so he was like pro there. And then that's when Tom realized that, oh, this is what he's doing to distract himself from the real work. He's doing this other thing and not performing and not practicing. And, you know, that makes me think about a lot of the ways that like I conduct myself or you watch other people do it.
Starting point is 00:28:38 But, you know, I'll do that with school work all the time. I'll be like organizing all these other parts of stuff because I'm a grad school right now. There isn't necessary at all, but it's because I don't want to sit down and get started on the paper, right? And it doesn't happen for long, I usually get it done, but it is interesting to see that. So if you expand that out into, imagine how many people of not, they're not being successful or they're not getting to the place they want to go to because of those distractive things that still look productive,
Starting point is 00:29:10 that still look really good. It makes me think that you're being productive really, but it's a productive procrastination. Mm. That's a good way to put a lot of that. I think a lot of people do. And it's something that everyone should kind of take a look at in themselves Like what things am I doing that really are that productive procrastination?
Starting point is 00:29:32 Mm-hmm, and just be like okay. Why do I keep doing this? Our three hour long lunches at them Those productive those are super productive for me You know you don't have to come along. No, but they're so nice though. They are so nice. Just such a nice distraction. But I usually am done with everything.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Yeah, true. But that's where it's bad. So maybe I'm a bad influence, but everyone needs to be responsible for their own actions during lunch. I'm gonna miss those lunches. Uh huh. Well, it's how it goes.
Starting point is 00:30:04 And you have to be disciplined about, right, like not drinking three beers at lunch. Maybe stick to one. Yeah, unless, you know, you love it and it makes the rest of your day awesome. But again, yeah, if it doesn't, if it slows you down, makes you tired, and you know that it always wrecks
Starting point is 00:30:22 the second half of your afternoon, don't do it. That's a bad move, right? But it is burger beer day. It's Thursday, so. Oh, there we go. Well, we have to go today, then. You don't have a choice.
Starting point is 00:30:35 What was your favorite bit on Cigarus stand up on his new stand up? Oh, I love the Goth Brooks, but yeah, how he's fucking with Goth all the time, and now he's so freaking famous. I mean, it was the number one thing on Netflix recently was Tom's special. I mean, you know, when he was first messing with Garth, it's like, Garth is this, you know, mega superstar. And it was just this comedian messing with him. But now he's so big and he's still doing it.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Garth, you just need to embrace the comedy in this and not get mad and go on maybe open for one of Tom's specials. There you go. That'll be dope. Lastly, I want to finish up with the with the Roseanne Theo thing. Yeah. Yeah. So Rogan played the clip, Theo and Rosanne at the comedy mother ship. I guess that's where they did the part, which is cool. I don't know if it was a live part or they just like use the space because it looked cool. I don't think there was an audience, but it could have been. That would have been fun.
Starting point is 00:31:39 And you know, Rosanne is just saying wild stuff. She's a comedian. She likes to say wild stuff. She's a comedian, she likes to say wild stuff. She always has, and they gave Theo a strike and banned him for a week. And that's big money, right? Well, it's because probably what she said about the Holocaust, even though she's Jewish, she said, and the Holocaust didn't happen. But she was clearly joking.
Starting point is 00:32:01 That's the thing, is it just a bot that's taken him down that doesn't see the context before the actual joke? I don't know, not now. Not now. I mean, it was mentioned on Rogan in detail. Even Theo did a post the week later on his show where he like discussed it in length. Right. The big thing is there's just no one to talk to.
Starting point is 00:32:19 And I don't understand why that is, especially with these big shows. I mean, Theo has like 600,000 subscribers. He get millions of views. You would have thought you'd have somebody to talk to, right? You're a big player over that network and or website or whatever you call it. You know, I just feel like someone should get on the line and be like, Oh, yeah, we reviewed it and you're right. That is a terrible and okay, we're going to take care of it. Or tell us why she was actually banned because I mean, what she did say about Biden was incorrect.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I mean, she, the amount of counties that he won was actually way higher than what then what she mentioned. Yeah, but you can speak. No, I get it. It's silly. They should not have been banned, but what are you actually getting banned for it? There should be a discrepancy like, hey, I need to know exactly what we said that got us banned. But they don't even seem to do that.
Starting point is 00:33:17 They don't seem to give you anything. Right. Because they don't want people to talk about anything when they're trying to just basically have a conversation about anything that has to do with politics or, you know, hurting other races, right? And when she was clearly joking, I would think the Holocaust thing that she said is probably what got them banned. But right before that, she's talking about Biden and how many counties he actually won compared to Trump and how do you get get 81 million votes from you know 36 counties it was really 509 because Joe did the fact check on that was 509 counties which makes way more sense
Starting point is 00:33:53 yeah but even that she's just speaking yeah they're just saying people say dumb shit all the time that's not true yeah that's what a comedy specialist It's all just lies that are hilarious. Yeah, I don't, I feel like, I feel like they need to figure something out over there. And that was on YouTube because they're so big and there's not really good competition against YouTube that they don't have to yet. You know, but it's just a shame. It's like they could do that and also be the biggest. Well, maybe Theo needs to go over to Rumble.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Yeah, he won't get as many people watching though, I don't think. It's not as big, you know. And, but he may have to. It's hard to say. All right, let's jump over to Sean Strickland. Now, are you familiar with this UFC fighter? Probably not. Not until this niceickland. Now, are you familiar with this UFC fighter? Probably not.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Not until this nice little combo. Okay. Okay. Todd's getting into the UFC. Well, if you're not familiar with him, then a lot of this conversation that Joe Habithim is probably quite difficult to listen to, he, I know him from fighting.
Starting point is 00:35:03 I know he always says wacky things. I've seen a ton of his press conferences. I mean, he just sprays it out. He thinks it and says it. And it's wild. I noticed. Yeah. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:35:15 My goodness. I mean, there's some real uncomfortable moments. I mean, he doesn't hold back at all. If you're into conversations like that, it's definitely worth listening to. Joe was trying to be a really patient father throughout the entire conversation. He totally was. And he didn't really preach too hard. No, he just tried to be like, Hey, you don't need to keep calling yourself a piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Which he definitely did at least 10 times. At least. Stop thinking about your past man, your past is horrendous. Yeah, but it's probably hard not to when your past was like that. Yeah. I mean, it seemed like a pretty vivid memory for him because he was able to go through a lot of it. He must think about that a lot. That was a good therapy session for Sean. Kind of was.
Starting point is 00:36:02 And you know, you got to give it to him. Like, fair play. He opened up. He let people know like, yeah, this is kind of why on this way, right? Yeah, which is good to hear. You got to be careful that you're not using that as a crutch to continue saying wild stuff,
Starting point is 00:36:17 but I don't know how he could stop. Well, he's also only 31, right? 32? Yeah, he's not that old. No. We all said a lot of really Ridiculous things when we were in our 20s and 30s, right? You're still doing it. I still do. Yeah. Yeah, imagine what he was like 10 years ago He's probably actually calm down a little bit and thank God for fighting. Thank God he found that
Starting point is 00:36:43 So that he had something to focus on. Because imagine him working anywhere. I mean, he'd have to work on like an oil rig or in a construction team where he's like not talking to people. No, kid kicked, kicked, kicked off that even that. He kicked, he'd kicked, kicked out of there because he'd get into a fight with somebody. Yeah, no doubt.
Starting point is 00:37:00 For sure. He probably would. But that crazy story's in there. I mean, the one with the saying he's gonna pull the trigger on his dad when he was 17 was dad was gonna commit suicide yeah and he was telling his dad to do that's right he told his dad to pull the trigger and then and then afterwards he's like well you know you should have done it because then he spent the next 10 years battling cancer and it was awful and then he died. And I'm like, wow.
Starting point is 00:37:25 But just the way he told it is like hard to hear. Well, just so matter of fact, like this is what I believe and I'm not, I'm not gonna think any other way. I wonder if he has that because of like the lack of guidance always. So he had to just kind of be like, he's seeing his family when he's very young, and he's like, yeah, they're not,
Starting point is 00:37:47 they're not gonna help me figure this out. So I have to become very decisive and figure it out myself. And without guidance, you're gonna go down a lot of crazy avenues. Didn't he say he was like a neo-nancy for a while when he was very young? And again, he just didn't have the best upbringing.
Starting point is 00:38:05 So he's just trying to figure out what he needed to do to feel safe or he needed to do to because he was different, right? Yeah. And so like you said, without fighting, fighting is what gave him his identity, right? Like his brother would be partying all the time and he would go on runs because he's trying to be a fighter. So instead of him having to be uncomfortable in these situations and feel like he's the weird kid
Starting point is 00:38:28 and just pissed off all the time, that his brother and all the buddies and all of his friends could just say, oh, Sean's just a fighter. That's just what he is now. So that's what gave him his identity, right? Because he was just lost. He's just a lost kid with no fucking parents around. And so much of that happens,
Starting point is 00:38:44 and it's so heartbreaking because like, you see a lot of the results. I mean, thank God that Rogan brought up a bunch of times. Yeah, but look at you now. Look at the successes that you have and be proud of those things. And you know, he tried to kind of guide him to be like, hey, you don't have to hate everybody as well. Like you keep bringing up every time Sean would bring up a different fighter that he doesn't like.
Starting point is 00:39:08 He's like, well, I really like that guy. You know? He said that 10 times probably. At least. Yeah. It probably needed to just be clear. I mean, it was like a huge shit talking podcast. Isn't that what makes, I mean, clearly the guy's kind of a bully, right?
Starting point is 00:39:23 That's what makes him a good fighter, right? Yeah, it's talking shit is what he's just used to doing. Right. It's done his whole life. Yeah, he talks mad shit. It's hard to stray from that if it's working for you. Mm-hmm. I, what do you think of the odds of him coming back on?
Starting point is 00:39:39 Do you think that that was like a little bit too much for Logan? He's not coming back on. I don't think so. I don't think so. I guess it depends on how it's all kind of heard in a sense. It's like because he's so much him and it's so wild, it's like sometimes you can give people a pass for it and just be like, whoa, that was nuts,
Starting point is 00:39:57 but also that was pretty wild. Well, you brought this up earlier, you have to be empathetic towards the guy. You get, yeah, you should. Right, you should to be empathetic towards the guy. You get, yeah, you, yeah, you should. Right. You know, he's saying dumb shit. I mean, he was, he was honest enough to be like, well, you know, I, we hate ourselves. Some of us fight us like, you know, talk about John Jones, you know, being brought up,
Starting point is 00:40:19 knowing that he's this super athlete, he's got super athlete brothers and lots of support. And he just feels like he's gold, and he's making up moves and just crushing it. But a lot of those guys probably do look in the mirror, and they're not happy with who they are, and what they see, and it's pain and anger. And it's brave to be able to bring that up, especially when you're like a cocky dude like he is like
Starting point is 00:40:46 You got to give him some respect for that, I think yeah, I respect it I I think that as he grows older he's gonna change the way he talks if he continues To be really successful in his fighting career There's just so much money in that and here have so much more access to being around people that maybe are a bit calmer Maybe he can meet some, you know, mental style Individuals that kind of can help him just orient himself better and he might just feel better about himself Right, right if you felt better about himself
Starting point is 00:41:21 He probably wouldn't you know generally, generally people on his angry. Well, how many times did he say, I'm a piece of shit? I mean, it must have been, we should have counted too many. We should have counted too many. I mean, he said it in like, it's his way of like kind of joking about how he speaks. He's not joking though. But yeah, he probably does believe it. That's that sad stuff. Sad stuff. And he's a fucking great fighter. Like that's the thing that you can't take away from him. I mean, all that sparring that he's talking about, how much he spars. I mean, he's a guy that a lot of people fear in the UFC.
Starting point is 00:41:56 And he probably could transition to some of those boxing matches, like maybe against Jake Paul or whatever, because he is really good boxer, doesn't get hit a lot. It's got great movement. You know, you watch some of his fights and wow. Look, I appreciate people that talk about how they're feeling and with zero filter and that's just how he is. Zero filter.
Starting point is 00:42:19 I do like that. You know, I would like to hear his podcast a little bit too. I mean, the honesty that, you know, that he felt about, you know, fighting some of these Muslim guys and how they're always talking just as much shit, but you don't really see that. But he's telling you about it because he's getting that when he's fighting, you know, and or the honesty that he had about how he, you know, he loved, you know, training in a black gym because it made him way stronger because these black guys were kicking the shit out of him.
Starting point is 00:42:50 And what did he, he called, it was towards the end, he called one of his trainers or somebody who was sparring with, he was, he said some racist bullshit about how this guy's weak or whatever because he's not black enough, didn't he say that? I think so. And once he explained why he said that, I mean, he sounded like a piece of shit when he said that, right?
Starting point is 00:43:11 Yeah. And everyone's going to call him a racist for that. But once he explained, hey, this is where my mindset comes from. And this is why I said it. It made sense. But look, people are going to judge you no matter what. And if it works for him, it's working. Yeah, he's just gotta keep winning.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Yeah, stop it. He gotta keep winning. He's as long as he keeps winning. And people will have patience for this. And he'll get a chance, but if he's getting knocked out and losing his fights and also talking wild shit, that's not good. So yeah, 100% focus on that.
Starting point is 00:43:45 I wonder how it changed the way that he understands race by training in that gym too. It's like so much of like racism, bigotry and all this, it just comes from a lack of exposure to being around different types of people and cultures and whatever. And it's like once you are around them and then you meet some people that are really nice
Starting point is 00:44:05 and they become your friends, you just like, oh, what I thought about this is incorrect. Right. And it sounds like it. I mean, he has a black guy on his podcast, right? It doesn't sound like a racist. So, yeah, that exposure probably helped. He's just a mad shit talker.
Starting point is 00:44:23 So it is a mad shit talker. So it is. Yeah. And again, I'm glad that Joe reiterated many, many times, like how his life is improved and how he doesn't have to be the same person. You know, I think Joe could tell that he was like possibly holding himself in this place of being like, no, I'm this piece of shit that says wild things. And Joe believes that you change always, right? And he's like, hey, in 10 years, you might not be like this, you know, as much. Yeah, he was being the patient old dad.
Starting point is 00:44:55 He was. It was good. It was so good. It was so good. Anyway, that's the pods for this week. We appreciate your Tom, Segera, your legend go, watch that immediately. And if you're not familiar with Sean Strickland,
Starting point is 00:45:10 give that pod a go, and at least watch some of his fights if you're into fighting just to see how much we're bad ass he is, but he is a wild man and we wish him best. Thanks guys, love you, Todd, as always later. Peace out.

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