Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 348 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Jimmy Carr Et al.

Episode Date: October 13, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You are listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast. We find little nuggets, treasures, valuable pieces of gold in the Joe Rogan Experience podcast and pass them on to you, perhaps expand a little bit. We are not associated with Joe Rogan in any way. Think of us as the talking dead to Joe's walking dead. You are listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review. What a bizarre thing we've created. Now with your host, Adam Fulon.
Starting point is 00:00:28 My interview to the worst podcast, one, go. Enjoy the show. Yo, guys. I am welcome to this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience Review. Coming in for part two for the week covering Jimmy car and the legendary box at Bernard Hopkins. Uh, join us always by Todd. Oh, what's happening?
Starting point is 00:00:53 Oh, hey there, buddy. Good to see you via the inter worldwide web star link. Uh huh. What up? Yeah, not much, man. Beautiful. Not much. Beautiful. Yeah. Well, we're doing two good week. Good week. A lot of good shows this week. What do you think? There's been a lot of, a lot of shows, man. We can't, we can't pack it all in. We're trying. We're trying, baby. We're trying. I did want to
Starting point is 00:01:20 cover Jimmy Car though, legendary British comedian. He's huge in England. He presents a lot of the comedy shows there. They like to do game shows with comedians. Like it's a big thing that they've always done in England. They don't do that so much here in the States. Yeah, I think that's it. I think we're not that's dude. Like games shows. nerd. Maybe like a panel, right? So he always hosts it. And then there's just like a bunch of comedians on each side, and guessing away at stuff. And but some of the shows are brilliant though.
Starting point is 00:01:53 I mean, really, really fun. Yeah. That's what. And so he hosts a quite a few shows still to this day or he didn't the past. I think he still does. Nice. And like through the years, he's jumped
Starting point is 00:02:05 from different shows, you know, um, but he's just good at kind of hosting them. His humor is dark, very dark. I don't know if you know a lot of his. I don't. And I wouldn't have guessed that. He seems like a pretty stand up like pretty normal dude. I wouldn't have guessed the darkness. Right. Yeah. Well, he always wears a suit and he looks, you know, kind of talks, posh, and he's pretty intellectual, but then he says, outrageous one-liner's basically that it just... He's always encouraging the crowd to, like, heck of them. Yeah. Nice.
Starting point is 00:02:40 And they just give him shit and then he just rips on them. And he's just notorious for that. So great guy. I would not have expected that. I love Jervais. He's probably my favorite British comic that I can think of right off the top of my head. But I'll have to get into Cardis.
Starting point is 00:02:56 He didn't talk about any new specials. I don't remember him saying anything. No, I don't think so. I think he was just coming to visit Joe and, you know, come and see the club, be a part of it. I know he's been out there before. He and Joe got close to the comedy store. Okay. And interestingly enough, so Tony Hinchcliffe from Kill Tony, he used to be a big part of the comedy roasts, right? And he's a great roaster. So Jimmy Carl used to go in for those. Oh, yeah. When he roastered, he
Starting point is 00:03:32 doope, Snoop Dogg. Oh my goodness. Unbelievable. One time during one of the roast shows, Tony wore a suit, an entire suit of armor up the legendary guy is yeah, just croix. You're saying car would fill in for him sometimes or they would do it. No, no, car just used to go in on it, see if he could win it. Oh my god. You know, he'd often go with a clipboard though, which is not really like how the Americans do that one. Buddy, that's cheating. That's cheating. Here's the problem though. You write the jokes 24 hours before you perform them. So they're hard to remember at all. That must be hard when you're not. You're following pop culture as much as we do here in the state.
Starting point is 00:04:14 So we'll give them a break. We'll give them a break. Yeah. And another thing is like a lot of the comics that were a part of the roasts all performed together all the time at the comedy store. So it was much easier to remember who they are and associate things about them. For Jimmy, they were all new people. That he just had to kind of like quickly learn about. And then, so I understood it. But yeah, that's his kind of, that's his kind of game when it comes to comedy. So I like that.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Love it. Well, he started off by saying, we are in a Golden Age of Comedy here. I would totally agree with that. It's coming back. Fuck yeah. Tenfold. I mean, it's frickin' amazing.
Starting point is 00:04:53 I mean, you and I both have been, you've been a stand up. I've never done stand up. I feel like, you know, I am good at talking in front of a crowd, but what I was gonna say is, you know, I remember watching Eddie Murphy raw. Eddie was what? Twenty twenty one when he did that.
Starting point is 00:05:09 I think raw was raw is first special on H. B. Or is one. I think it was. So I think he was like 18. He was so young. It doesn't make any sense. My fricking how good he is.
Starting point is 00:05:21 My dad would let me watch that when my mother was sleeping. I was maybe like, I don't know, eight years old, not even. My dad would let me watch that when my mother was sleeping. I was maybe like, I don't know, eight years old, not even, and he would let me watch it. And I just remember like reciting those lines at school and then getting in trouble for reciting some of that shit. It's like, thanks dad, nice job. And that was just, that to me was, I just remember that being so influential to me, like knowing that my father
Starting point is 00:05:46 loved it and was laughing his ass off. You know, anytime your dad's laughing, you think it's funny, even though you don't know what he's talking about, you think it's hilarious. And then, you know, we'd watch movies together, trading places, a lot of Eddie Murphy movies back then. I mean, Beverly Hills Cop. But it just reminded me of that seemed like the golden age of comedy before it is now.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I mean, that was kind of the golden, the original golden age. I mean, maybe the second coming after the priors and the, and the Sam, you know, uh, innocent, innocent, or how do you say his lesson? Kinesen. Kinesen. Yeah. I mean, the Joe talks about this.
Starting point is 00:06:22 There are ebbs and flows for sure. Right. Like Kinesen Zero was huge. And after that, it kind of was really nerfed. That was Eddie Murphy's era, right? Yeah. Yeah. And then Kennis and was maybe a little bit late. I think he was like early 90s.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Okay. Then, you know, and that was towards the end of the boom. And like, um, uh, well, then carrot was a, then kid, don't forget, let's not forget carrot, Todd, baby, come on. Never forget carrot, carrot, I mean, Boston scene was really big then. So that was like when Joe, Bill, uh, um, Fitzgerald, that, well, Fitz, Simmons, yeah, that's what they got in there. The fuck is Fitzgerald? F Scott Simmons. Yeah, that's what they got in there. The fuck is Fitzgerald?
Starting point is 00:07:06 F's got. Yeah, he was a huge comedian. All right, so we're, but you know, then it started to die off. Then kind of like, I think later in the 90s, the comedy store Joe talks about it, almost when he was first there, it was it was teetering off.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Like mine Lawrence was there then. Yeah, Oh, probably it was like real sick and still. Martin dude, he killed. So I was like, Crush all the time. I'm Gina. Yeah. All right. So let's go at the follow him and it was a disaster. Oh, yeah. It's hard to follow Martin. I mean, look, Chris Rock is obviously back. And that's crushing. But look, it does seem like the golden age. So I would agree with Jimmy Carter that we have this kind of this golden age coming back. There's so many more comedians and probably because of the internet, I mean, they talked about a tell and Colin Quinn, like being these two
Starting point is 00:08:02 legendary comics that you don't really hear much from because they're not very good at social media. And then you have Homeboy, who was on last week. What was his name? The Brad Jelena. I want to call him Brad Jelena because he's just a gorgeous human. Oh, Matt Wright. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:08:19 You got the rife of the world who are crushing and up and coming, right? They're the younger guys, but are crushing the Instagram. And you know, every hot mom in the universe wants to bang these 25 year olds and he's killing it. Dude, supposedly Matt made like 25 million on TikTok. Glash, yeah. Dude, yeah. Freak.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Think about it. I don't even understand that. I got to get a TikTok. They already know, they already know plenty about me. Um, so, you know, he starts off by talking about this, this new golden age. He talks about how he wants to teach it now. He's really into trying to come up with some sort of class. He didn't, he didn't really get into it too much about what he's actually doing, but sounded like he's really interesting. I think
Starting point is 00:08:59 he said that he wants to write a book about that. Okay. Love that. Yeah. He wants to bring it back. Joe also said that he thought about it and the team there at the comedy mothership had discussed it. And I think it's really good. He kind of set it up as like a Q&A, which I know they used to do. I saw Ari Shafir do one at the comedy store one time. You talking about what you're talking about?
Starting point is 00:09:20 And he just sits there and and adds his questions. Oh, okay. So comedians can just be like, Hey, how's this? How's the road? How did you get on the road? How do you formulate your jokes? In a lot of ways, that's really useful, you know, for, for people just trying to learn. I mean, it's a tough thing to teach, right?
Starting point is 00:09:39 And often Joe has talked about how, you know, people that have been to those comedy classes, I did one in Santa Monica and I left halfway through it. They had a stomping around the room, acting like we were dinosaurs. And I was like, what is this improv bullshit? I just could do it anymore. I was like, this isn't going to help me hating that. But it's kind of like teaching. Well, I just knew I could go to an open mic the next night.
Starting point is 00:10:02 And I'm like, I'll just do that. Just go to the fucking open night and fail and get better. You're either good in front of a crowd and can be witty and come up with one liners quickly or you can't. You're right, you cannot teach that. Now, could you teach someone to be more comfortable in front of stage and have a better stage presence? Sure, you can. It's just like acting. You're an actor, but you can't teach someone to be witty. You just can't. You can't teach someone to be witty. That's not a skill that can be taught, but there is a skill about being on stage and being more comfortable, but that comes with practice. Like you said, you just got to get in front of the fucking
Starting point is 00:10:37 crowd, right? Yeah. It's kind of hard to say, actually, because plenty of the funniest comedians that I knew that were starting out, like when we were all just hanging out together in a crowd, they often didn't say much of anything. Yet they'd get on stage and they'd have like really good observational pieces. And then often, the one that was like being the clown in the group that you're like,
Starting point is 00:11:03 God, I bet that stand-up suck, they, oh, I bet that stand-up is good. They often were not good. So it's really kind of difficult to know what makes a comedian. Are you saying that the people that were clowning around at the party couldn't get in front of a stage and do it the same way they did at the party? They, they would get up there, you know, they had confidence, but it was like, um, I don't know, there was huge like ebbs and flows in how good they were. Maybe they, they got it in the way and once they were outstretched. Probably, yeah, probably ego, probably they thought that they could like add lib more
Starting point is 00:11:39 than they could that often didn't go very well. The quiet guys like to stick to a script, you know, they like to stick right to their material. And that's way safer when you're starting out. It's just hard to tell. And I think ultimately it's it's hard to teach because it's just a very difficult thing to create a format for like each comedian's best funniest version of themselves is probably very different than all other types of comedians. It's a very individualistic experience. Of course. And I think that's what makes it tricky. However, when Jimmy Carr says, right, he's a great joke writer, right? Because he can write one line. That's very difficult. And then you add something like a good Q&A
Starting point is 00:12:25 where like Rogan's up there, Tony. Tony especially, like if anyone I think could teach a class while would be Tony Hingecliff, he, because of the way he does Kill Tony and how he kind of coaches a lot of these like new comedians. If they suck, he's gonna kick you right out of the class. He's gonna be a scissor. Yeah, but that wouldn't be the point of the class.
Starting point is 00:12:44 All right, he's not roasting you that. But he'd be, he'd be brutally honest with you. Right. He'd be like, right, you didn't have this. You didn't have this. I need you to see this. You suck. Get the fuck out of my class right now. Get, get on. I'll play golf with you next week, but you're not funny. Look, he's actually quite nice guy. He really is. Let's, let's go through it. I have a lot of notes here. So I'm just actually quite nice guy. You really is. Let's go through it. No, I have a lot of notes here. So I'm just going to keep going. We got, you know, they talk about Dick Gregory going on the,
Starting point is 00:13:11 the Araldo Rivera show, which we've been over many times. I had forgotten that that was the Dick Gregory that is also the stand up comic. Yeah. The African American stand up comic is, do we still even say African American, the black dude, who's a standup comic who crushes and was very famous at the time or coming up at the time?
Starting point is 00:13:33 How on earth he got that video from Life Magazine, I don't know, but it's a crazy video. You see the, and if you guys didn't watch it, it's been talked about plenty on Rogan because Rogan is of the conspiracy theory that JFK was probably taken out by our own government, which I might have something to agree on there as well. Especially if you look at this video, you can you can clearly see that he is shot in different different directions. So probably from the grassy knoll, just going to go there and not just from the observatory.
Starting point is 00:14:06 But that being said, we talked about, they talked about the Howard Hunt deathbed confession, which I had forgotten about. He said that he was involved in a conspiracy to kill the president on his deathbed. Is that true? We don't really know. Where are we getting that source? Not sure. is that true? We don't really know. Where are we getting that source? Not sure. And then they go into talking about how 90% of priests... At public mobile, we do things differently. From our subscription phone plans to throwing a big sale right now when no one else is. Well, maybe they are, but who cares? Our sale is better. And it's on right now, no waiting necessary.
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Starting point is 00:15:04 maybe there's something there about there was a huge shortage of priests and maybe that's how we ended up with a bunch of creepy, creepy priests. I don't know. We're, we're, we're coincidence there. I'm not sure. But if you think about it, the priests were the original show business guys. I mean, that, yeah, they were the celebrities talking to the town, dude. They're
Starting point is 00:15:25 the talk of the town. And they were like raising people as priests, right? So, so basically you get you, it's almost like the side it like the like ancient priesthood stuff. That's crazy. Little Jimmy's going to be a priest. Is it a bloodline? So he not a bloodline though. No, I don't think so. I think it just like, you know, family will just select a religious family and be like, this is what you're going to do. So they spend their whole life learning, they dedicate their whole life while if the plague kills a shitload of them and they're desperate to fill the priesthood. I mean, then who you're taking, you're taking a bunch of, yeah, you're taking a bunch of people that want to be fucking gurus, you know? Well, it is a strange thing.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Joe the Plama. It's a strange thing that they were allowing, you know, monogamous relationships back in the day and you were able to have a YA for a girlfriend or whatever. And then what was the reasoning behind this no, you know, no relationships as a priest? I mean, they didn't really go into that, but you could see how that could turn into a some,
Starting point is 00:16:29 maybe some pedophilia, maybe some weirdos, a lot of unfortunately, a lot of nothing wrong with, you know, gay dudes being priests, absolutely nothing wrong, but, you know, a lot of gay guys ended up going into priesthood because of that, which makes sense, you know, and there's nothing wrong with that going into priesthood because of that, which makes sense. You know, and there's nothing wrong with that. I don't think gay guys are pedophiles. I think pedophiles are pedophiles, which they talked about. I mean, that's fucked up. Right. You know,
Starting point is 00:16:53 but, you know, if, if your religion is making you feel very guilty about the fact that you feel a certain way, then going into the priesthood to kind of, I don't know, apologize for it. And that's unfortunate. And you know, that's unfortunate. And then they go on to talk. I mean, I'm just gonna keep going on the list. Are you looking something up? What are you looking up?
Starting point is 00:17:14 Yeah, of the priest thing. Oh, about when it changed to having no relationships. But yeah, I was unaware. I was unaware of the fact that you used to be able to have a relationship, so I don't understand the reasoning, especially if they were in need of priests. Why would you then make it so you couldn't be? It says, as it's clear in Scripture, Christ was not married by remaining celibate and devoting themselves to the serves of the church, priests more closely model, configure themselves to consecrate themselves to the serves of the church, pre-small, closely model, configure themselves
Starting point is 00:17:46 to consecrate themselves to Christ. Okay. And that is on Catholic Answers. All right. Well, Catholic.com. I don't know. As far as I'm concerned, Mary Magdalene had to have a penis
Starting point is 00:17:57 center to get pregnant. So we'll stop there. Asia consent in UK 16. Whoa. Hey, oh, that's young over them to be having sex, but they should just be with other young people. Like, it's not really cool for someone's like 55. We won't go there. You know, all right.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Well, you cover that. Well, I'm just, I'm just going through my notes. You know, we're starting. We talk about social security again, getting docked, you know, because of student loans, that's totally effed up. Let's, let's, let's stop that government. Okay, we shouldn't be paying $30,000 a year for freaking school. That's not even really teachinged up. Let's stop that government. We shouldn't be paying $30,000 a year for frickin' school. That's not even really teaching you anything. So all the kids out there, go
Starting point is 00:18:52 to trade school. Seems like a lot better idea, especially if you don't know what you want to do. If you want to be a doctor, go to school. If you don't want to be a doctor, maybe go into the trades. That seems like a smarter decision in my mind. Not really sure. Don't listen to me if you don't want to. You know, I liked Jimmy seemed to really bring back this whole idea of working hard, working hard now for an easy life later. He really kept going at this whole like, is that really what we want? Do we really want to work that hard for an easy life later? Maybe, but really I think what I think the key and again and Rogan talks about this over and over and over again is finding what it is You love to do and really going for that now. Is that an easy thing?
Starting point is 00:19:39 I don't know. Maybe it is maybe it isn't, but for the people that know what they want to do and love what they want to do, don't strive for anything but that. Whatever that is. Okay, let's not go to some job we hate just for the money because you're gonna hate your life. And we see it time in time again, there's a cap at how much money you can make and you don't get any happier after 100,000 a year. You're not getting any happier, right? Really, you're just buying more stupid shit. And maybe it's 150 days. It's more expensive now. Maybe it's 150.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Maybe it's 150. Maybe, maybe it's gone up. It's gone up because of inflation. We get that. But there's a cap, right? You could make a million dollars a year or you can make 200,000 or a quarter million. The happiness level is not changing at that,
Starting point is 00:20:26 is what I was what I'm saying. And Rogan says it over and over again, you could make a quarter mill or you could make two mill, you're not any happier, you just have more shit to deal with, more money, more problems, okay? To quote my boy Biggie, okay? Biggie.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Who allegedly may have been involved in shooting two-pock? That way somebody came out. Ooh, I saw that. Oh, I don't want to believe it. Yeah. I don't want to believe it. I don't want to believe it. It's a lot to think about.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Puh, puh, puh. Well, both wonderful artists and RIP, I don't know who did what. Who escaped that one? So what is this that we got? We got everyone should do construction work. If we're going to stay on that topic for a second, I totally agree, but I also think we need to add in restaurant work.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Everyone should be a server and or a cook so that you know when you go into these types of places, you should pay for a tip. Hello. Am I right? Am I right? I think everyone should work at Starbucks for like six months too.
Starting point is 00:21:24 And Jimmy, he talks about being dyslexic. I mean yikes that is that's a tough one. That's tough. Take some freaking it. So long to read. I mean, it depends. There's plenty of people that are dyslexic creative. I just mean it depends on how dyslexic is. I mean, it didn't say when to Cambridge. Yeah. I mean, he went to a really good school. He figured it out. So, I guess that's what I was saying. Yeah, I probably just couldn't read well. What did he keep saying? A little tape. Everyone has two lives.
Starting point is 00:21:52 The second one starts when you realize you only have one. I liked that. That is quite interesting. That was pretty tight. That was a good one. Yeah. You know, my second life starts when I realize
Starting point is 00:22:03 I only have one like, oh, fuck, I better do something with my life right now Right. Yeah, how would you teach that to somebody though? You know, you take like people in their 20s that are pretty headstrong super determined, you know, they just like got that focus. They're not gonna listen and They're not gonna let they just like oh god. I know I'm I'm freaking well I mean I'm freaking well. I mean, I think that ahead. That literally proves the point of the fucking statement there, Mr. Thorn,
Starting point is 00:22:31 is that you don't realize you have a second life until you realize you only have one life. That's it. Yeah, I'm just saying is it requires it like a non teachable event? You just have to wait for some of the things. It's non teachable because you don't realize it until you realize it kind of thing It's like you you only realize that on your own. You can't that it's not a top thing in my mind No, I think you're right. I wouldn't have listened Fuck no no way you know what I didn't realize I barely do now until I drowned I drowned on a river and I was like
Starting point is 00:23:02 Oh my god. I got my second life. Holy shit balls. And what did I do? Well, for you was blacked out. A black death. A definite second life. Two years. This could all be a dream, actually. Two years, you know, if you might have thought.
Starting point is 00:23:15 I'm dead. Let's go. You might have died. And then this is just, this is huge dreaming. What else do we have? So the, what was it? The cliff notes? What was the name of cliff notes?
Starting point is 00:23:27 But there's an app now that reads those to you. I thought that was cool. I wrote that down that there's a, what do you guys call cliff notes in the UK? I think the same thing. No, no, there was a name for it. There was this thing called the imprint app, imprint app. So it's a visual book. It gives you the quick notes, the cliff notes app imprint app. So it's a visual. What did it do? Books. It gives you the quick notes, the cliff notes, excuse me. So like the synopsis
Starting point is 00:23:50 of a book, right? Like what the cliff notes does. Okay. Wait, you know, that's how we cheated in high school. At least that's how I cheated in high school. You go get the cliff notes. Then you don't have to read the whole book. I mean, you know, work smarter, not harder. But they do a visuals of that, the imprint app. I wanted to check that out. I liked when he said, you know, reading books again, how it gets better.
Starting point is 00:24:15 It's kind of like when you see a movie again, you know, you kind of notice more things in the movie. I did that recently with that Nike Air movie. It's just called air. Have you seen that yet? It's fucking brilliant. So no, it's it was good the second time. Yeah. I watched it twice because my, my friend, who's a girl, came over and we watched it. I was like, I, you know, I knew the movie was going to be good. I wasn't trying to pick a new movie that I didn't know. So I just watched the movie again that I knew was good.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Right. And I had, and this is like within a month of each other, I watched the movie twice within two months. And the second time was even better than the first. I was like catching things that I didn't catch the first go around. Yeah. So yeah, well, I think I think that works really well with Well, I think I think that works really well with certain types of books, especially philosophy or self-help type books. None, none, because yeah, me well sometimes nonfiction is not that, right? But if they're trying to teach you a message based on your maturity and your ability to hear at any point, it's like, I've heard people go back and read like,
Starting point is 00:25:25 Eckhart toll books. Oh, God. Yeah, that's tough. Those are tough to read. And then, right, but then they're in a different place and they're able to kind of slow down more and it just like, the meaning of it makes more sense. Yeah, no, I get that.
Starting point is 00:25:41 That probably happens to religious people with that religious text as well. Like when you're reading as a kid, you're just like, all right, boring, this story, whatever. And then as you get older, and if you are religious, it's like, yeah, I don't know. I get that. No, scripture is more to you. Scriptures way cooler as you age. I get that. I'll do that. I'm with you. It's not working on me. I'm with you. Well, I don't fucking read it. but you know, I could see how we get better. I mean, I didn't like self-help books when I was 12, but I liked, you know, Harry Potter.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Kidding. I never got into Harry Potter. What the fuck am I talking about? You know, you know who I got into a lie, dude? No, I'm not lying. I just caught myself in a lie. myself in a lie. No, what was the book, the, the hatchet, the hatchet was the first book I fucking loved. Jerry, I like that. The hatchet. I know. No, I never read. Is it like a horror? No, it was about this kid who went up, moved up to Alaska with a hatchet. It was similar to my other favorite book, which was the one that became a movie that showed me. Phoenix. I'm. I do love. No, I do love Dr. Seuss. Thank you. Thank you. Anything that's in rhyme, former fashion, I'm into, you know, I like the hip hop, hip
Starting point is 00:26:56 edy to the hip, hip hop, and you don't stop a rock into the bank. Oh, you, you're going to say maybe into the wild into the wild. Thank you, Adam. Noah. Thank you, Thorne. One of my favorite into the wild into the wild. Thank you, Adam. Noah. Thank you, Thor. Noah. One of my favorite books growing up into the wild is probably the first book that I read shout out to, oh, God, what was the name of the John? Croc, Croc, Croc Hour. Croc Hour. Croc Hour.
Starting point is 00:27:18 K-R-A-U. Did he just pull himself? Croc Hour. What happened at the end of that? Well, so it's a true story. I know it's a true story. I know the bear almost ate him. True story. This kid from the East Coast, his parents were assholes. They want to be a lawyer or, you know, the typical, I'm too hard on my kid.
Starting point is 00:27:34 I want him to be a lawyer and a doctor. And then he ends up saying, fuck money. I want to be a hippie and move to Alaska. Nice work parents. Nice work. Way to be too hard on your kid. And then, yeah, the ends up moving to Alaska and dying from starvation and or maybe from eating some poisonous berries. Do you watch
Starting point is 00:27:52 the movie? Jesus. You never read the book. It's pretty sad. No, I didn't read the book. So that was my favorite book grown up. I was probably like 12 when I first read that, maybe 14, something like that. Anyway, it's like, yeah, they they change. You know, a lot of my friends really love Lord of the Rings in high school. I never read the whole thing. I never got into it. I tried getting into JRR Tolkien. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:13 JRR, it's good. JRR. JRR, two hours. He's got two middle names. JRR. JRR. Robert and Ruput. I don't know.
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Starting point is 00:29:06 The story for that. The hobbit is the shit. I mean, that's the beginning of the Lord of the Rings. Is it not? That's like the first book is the hobbit. Yep. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:17 So I just two more things I want to touch on with Jimmy because this, this, they, they went through a lot and they, and I really, I really like Jimmy's demeanor. Again, I don't, I can't see him being dark humor, but, you know, British humor is fucking weird, okay? I was never a huge money python fan. I know you're gonna give me shit for that, but it's just British fucking humor. You know, you know, who I like, who's British?
Starting point is 00:29:40 You know who I like? Who? Fucking homie from the cook, fucking Gordon Ramsey. That's who I like who? Fucking homie from the cook fucking Gordon Ramsey. That's who I like. I like a Brit who fucking tells everyone to fuck off. That's the Brit I like. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Fair enough. Love that. That's why I love you. Probably way like me. Yeah, I was going to say that. Be me too. The last thing I wanted to hit on with Jimmy was, while they were talking about, I don't know how they got into it,
Starting point is 00:30:11 but it was like ways of hating people. And then they talked about how Hitler closed all the cabaret clubs down in Germany, during the war, right before the war, because there was a lot of Jewish performers that were very well-liked, great entertainers. He didn't want the Germans to like the Jews for being funny.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Yeah, it was like the psychology of it. It was like, you can't hate people that entertain you. And I found that really interesting and a broad spectrum. That's why I don't hate you. That's why I don't hate you, buddy, because you make me laugh. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:30:44 That's it. But it does make you think, it's like, hey, you would have to watch that. Like if ever it got to, I mean, the pandemic was a little bit different. But if they ever get to a place where like think about it, they've stopped Russell brand from performing. Like he has to cancel his shows because of these allegations that have come out. I don't believe the allegations. I don't believe. I allegations. I don't believe I don't believe the allegations. I don't believe I really don't. But you know, we don't know enough and it's fair to say they should be investigated, but it does seem suspicious that he's been taking such a hard line against the powers
Starting point is 00:31:18 that be the government, the media. I mean, and those two bodies together have come join forces and I'm really shutting him down. And in a way, it's like, they've stopped him doing his like, cabaretial way. It's like, oh, now he can't enter tame people. Great point, buddy. They've been trying to shut him down on YouTube. Thank God for bumble. Shout out to bumble. We love you. Yeah. Rumble in the bumble.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Yeah. It's just like, okay, that's what it made me think of anyway. I don't know if they were like alluding to it because it's interesting, Joe hasn't brought up anything about Russell yet. And I know he's trying to mostly stay away from the massive controversy. He doesn't want to get pulled into things
Starting point is 00:32:00 and fair play to him. I mean, I get it. Why should he have to? I get it. But you know they're paying attention to it, dude. You know they are. All right. Jimmy Car check them out.
Starting point is 00:32:12 I'll put some links for some of my favorite Jimmy Car jokes in the bio so you can just click those and have a laugh. He's got some great stuff and I know some classes. I just want to say one more thing because we touched on this last week. Why in the F aren't we being powered by nuclear power? I mean, nuclear submarines are going all over the ocean, left, right, north, south, up, down, east, west. Let's go. We're being powered by nuclear submarines. No one's getting killed on a nuclear sub. Okay? They're safe. Okay. Let's go. Yeah. Let's go with nuclear because they did touch on that right at the end. And Jimmy Carr said, why in the F aren't we using nuclear to power the
Starting point is 00:32:57 world? So let's end on that. Thank you, Jimmy. I'm going to have to listen to some of his jokes. I'm have to follow him because great guy. Great guy, that was a really good chat. Oh, and lastly, he did say that they last forever. Yeah, and they don't, I looked that up after he said it because I was like, really? But it looks like they last about 20 years. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:19 On the fuel that they have. But imagine having a car that runs for 20 years. It's like, are you fucking kidding me? 20 years. Oh, I'm sorry. This, this only runs off the power for 20 years without having to feed it anything. Fucking insane. Yeah. And it's not like polluting the ocean with radiation. Dude, radiation is not a pollutant if it's in, if it's contained contained we can figure out a way to contain it people. Let's go. Yeah, let's get All right. All right. Let's move on. Let's move on. Don't let's hit up Bernad Bernie
Starting point is 00:33:54 Bernie you start us off for a second. I know your notes are gonna be garbage You know nothing about boxing all right Well, so I'm gonna grab another drink so you get a dick right. So we got Bernard, obviously the guy had a hard life. That's why he's such a heavy hitter. You know, it was in the penitentiary. I don't even know how many years, but, you know, his first fight was Roy Jones Jr. Fresh out of the penitentiary, like I said, when he first fought Roy Jones Jr. And it sounds like it was a tie, or he said, he called it a parody.
Starting point is 00:34:30 There's some litigation there. I'll have to ask Adam what happened there. He's gonna know more than I do. You know, what was the litigation all about? So he fought Roy Jones Jr. as his first fight. This is fresh out of the, fresh out of the fucking slammer. What, what's up with that? And there was a, why did he keep calling it a parody? I was confused by that. Like it was a joke like he should have won.
Starting point is 00:34:55 There was no, I think I could just came down to like he got really screwed on the contracts. Okay. Because he suddenly made like 80 K, which isn't that much for fucking having a heavyweight fight. No, he had a 60 40 split with his agent, which isn't saying he got fuck. Yeah, you fresh out of the penitentiary. Any agent shouldn't pay like take more than 60, 40. He did say up to 15 because maybe they've invested a lot into you to get you to that fight. But once you're once you're getting fights, I mean, there's no need to take that. But that was his first fight out of the slammers. So let's
Starting point is 00:35:36 give his agent a little nice job for fucking someone over. Okay, good job, bud. Good job. Hopefully he fired him. The interesting thing about this podcast is the number one, Joe barely said a word. No, no, he didn't. He may have said the least words on this conversation than he's ever said before. Bernard kept being like, thanks for letting me vent, bro. He was just like going on and on. He and it was, it was a lot of venting. I thought that's a good reason. Yeah. You know, he's been dicked over by a lot of the bullshit play politics that go into boxing. Don't you think that's because he's old too, though?
Starting point is 00:36:14 Like let's, let's be honest. He's older, you know, he's been around for a while. What is he, he's in his 60s? Yeah. I think it's because he has just a lot of experience. So he knows and now he's Promoting fights himself and he's trying to get the bullshit out of boxing and treat these boxes Beth a while still making some money and You know, he knows a lot about it. It's like on his mind
Starting point is 00:36:36 Maybe more than the actual fighting is because Joe is a huge fan of Bernard Hopkins, like for sure. Just like he is with Roy Jones and Tyson and Leibin. The best boxers ever. Yeah. So, so he wants to get to the meat and potatoes of like how do you train? How do you eat? And more importantly, how do you keep yourself going later in life? But he didn't get those questions. He didn't get those questions. We're going no way. He didn't get there.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Mm-hmm. It was really hard. He kept bringing it back to this whole philosophy for life. And which I get, that's like a nice way of saying. But he's got a very way. Hold on, let's give the listeners what was his philosophy? What do we got, Bernie? I'm a calm Bernie.
Starting point is 00:37:24 You know, he would just keep going back to lifestyle. It's my lifestyle. So he didn't necessarily say it was good sleep or good eating or good training. It was all of the things. And he wouldn't go into specifics on anything. We got to have some good sex in there. I don't think he talked about that too much, but it was, it was mostly just like his, I think he was trying to make the point that it's, it's an umbrella approach, right? You don't go out drinking. You don't party with the people after the fight because most of them don't even give a shit about you anyway. That doesn't sound fun. Yeah, but he's a dedicated professional athlete. And he knows where that road goes when people are doing below and partying and
Starting point is 00:38:10 blah, blah, blah. If you want to be professional athlete, whoa, whoa, whoa. Can we talk about that? I mean, I'm not saying it's not fun. I'm just saying, can we talk? Can we talk about our favorite, our other favorite fighter? Oh, John Jones. No, well, Johnny Jones, obviously fucking is the shit. But no, I'm talking about the Irish fucking Irish man. Call him a Gregor. Thank you. Yeah, he's good. I don't know how much. Yeah, he likes the party. But you know, when he got super rich and after the Mayweather fight, I mean, his career after that point was a lot less impressive than it was before. I get it, but he just ended up buying a whiskey brand and then, hey, oh, let's go on the Yatsky. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. I think he started
Starting point is 00:38:59 to have a little bit too much fun with hundreds of millions of dollars. I'm just pointed out, there's several avenues we could go here, Mr. Thorn, there's several avenues, but I appreciate Bernard's dedication to the craft. Okay. So we'll, yeah, that's all I got there. Yeah. Yeah. So, so the point Todd's making here is he was definitely the type of person that would
Starting point is 00:39:24 give in the chance to go completely off the rails parting and have a great time. I do sell in that kilo of coke, okay? Yeah, and then ruin his whole career, but he's just waiting for that high. That's why I can't pay him too much because it's all that's going to happen. Damn it, motherfucker. Now the honesty comes out. Yeah, it comes out. But yeah. So he's gone straight in arrow. You know, he's always focused on the task in hand. And he did bring it back a lot to his tough upbringing. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. He was a hard life. Well, dude, his mouth, three kids within what, three years of each other, all of his and his brother
Starting point is 00:40:01 died. Did he say how his brother died? He didn't mention it. Two of his brothers died. Oh, it was two. Oh, yeah, all Aquarius too. They were all Aquarians. I know that because I have a February birthday. And he was a January, I wanna say he was late January and his brother was a January or February
Starting point is 00:40:19 and then his sister was a February. The Aquarians man, I'm telling you, we are we are hot headed and we are determined people when we get there. I mean, Michael Jordan was a was also in Aquarian. So you know, sorry for the listeners out there who don't believe in the in the the stars, but God damn, if that shit doesn't add up, I gotta say, if you're an aquarium, you are, you're in the stars, you're just floating around in the stars. It doesn't add up, but the hell are you talking about? You're way to fuck off.
Starting point is 00:40:55 You know, my son has the same birthday as you and I'm fucking worried, okay? Ooh. Yeah, it's a good thing. Why would you be worried? I love you. I love you. I love you be worried, my dear? Successful podcast the one day. I love you.
Starting point is 00:41:07 I love you. You know that. All right, so both of his brothers died. I thought only one died. No, I think he said two. I'm trying to look it up now, but I can't find it. It's not like a good. This episode is brought to you by Coca-Cola Creations. The sights and sounds of the future are a mystery to us,
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Starting point is 00:42:07 Why was he in jail. He didn't, he didn't say what he did. Was he in jail for selling coke or and then he got out and then he just didn't sell it anymore and he ended up boxing. Is that what happened? Hold on, let me say Hopkins was sentenced 18 years. Oh, but nine felonies. Fuck, buddy. Damn. But nine felonies Fuck buddy damn, and he was 13 he was mugging people and had been stabbed three times
Starting point is 00:42:30 At 13 years old Wall and prison he went as the motive another inmate Over a pack of cigarettes, but also discovered his passion for boxing Yeah, and was serving almost five years. And he served five years on a 18 year sentence. Yeah, but I mean, sometimes it was like, Hey, give me a chance. But they don't, it doesn't say for what? It doesn't say for what? For mugging people.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Yeah, mugging. Yeah, he's like Philadelphia thug stuff. I mean, you grow of it. So yeah, it was it was like Philadelphia thug stuff to do I mean you growing up the bro it's rough hard out here for appeal trying to get the right for the rent I mean his mom was a single mom three kids you haven't found out if both of his brothers died or just one Either way look either way you come up. I think it was too. I remember to also to here's the two stand up You come up you come up you come up in a situation like that. And clearly he was a very headstrong individual. He said, he said just raising himself was like raising three kids, right? He said that about his mother.
Starting point is 00:43:37 He's like, God, damn it. My mother had three kids and I was three of them. Straight up. Like I was three of the kids. So the she had six kids. And I believe it. I mean, for that type of person who's going to be a freaking champion, yeah. That's like raising three kids alone, right? So yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:57 And thank goodness Bernard went to the, you know, he realized what he had in him. I feel like he realized that he is a champion and he stuck with it, you know, he didn't go to the dark side. He didn't go to selling drugs on the fucking corner. He went to, all right, I'm gonna fix my life. I've just spent some time in the penitentiary. Now let's go.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Let's fucking, let's, let's prove myself, right? And it sounds like you got fucked over by some agents and promoters, this and that. What, what do you think the, kind of the overall arcing story here is Adam of what the, I mean, he talked the entire time, right? This was Joe Riven, like you said, said hardly anything. What was the,
Starting point is 00:44:44 it was like the, like the Ted talk. Oh, it's sad. You know what it sounded like? He sounded a lot like, he speaks the same way Goggins does. You know, it's like, it's not just like preaching. And I don't mean that in any negative connotation. I love listening to Hopkins. I love Hopkins and Goggins. Yeah. It was like a drill sergeant, you know, like a coach. You told like a coach. Yep, yep, yep. You know, he was like, this is what you do and this is where you go. It's like he's like promotes.
Starting point is 00:45:14 He just has such a strong mind is what reminded me of. Because you know, Goggins does. I agree. Yeah, then then it was very similar. That's great. So what do you think is over his overall kind of energy point, you know, yeah, his message is messages if you like it doesn't matter where you came from like you think about your family is what it sounded like to me like make them proud and do it for them just because you started off with a bad hand, like you can find something you're good at and then you work 100% out of it.
Starting point is 00:45:47 And on the way, not only do you need to stay dialed in, this is his whole life approach, right? Like so no drinking, no partying or maybe drank a bit but like you didn't really talk about it, but healthy eating, organic food, you know, always in shape, never messing around. I mean, you can't argue with the results. He boxed later in life than anyone else winning titles, like God bless him. That's incredibly difficult to do. And like really fucking up younger people too. Being faster, just being smarter, moving well, I mean, we're reckoning. And you know, watch out, watch out for the people that
Starting point is 00:46:27 promote the fun. Like learn as much as you can about the game as well as as the actual boxing itself is what it seems like. It's a slippery slope. These contracts are difficult to navigate and people are looking to take advantage of you all the time. And honestly, after hearing all this and learning this much about boxing in general and the behind the scenes shenanigans, you know, the fact that he's out there now promoting fights and working with other fighters, I would trust him, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:59 It's like there's no way he would talk like that and then also screw over boxes. It just doesn't make any sense. And we need all people like that in boxing. No, the guy, the guy's a stand up. He's a stand up guy. So all right, let's end it on that, brother. Stand up.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Love it. All right. Good, good part for this week. Thank you all for listening. We appreciate you and talk to you. Well, we'll talk to you next week as always. Bye. Peace. Ciao. Talk to you, well, we'll talk to you next week as always. Peace. Ciao, manama-ya.

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