Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 352 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Coleman Hughes Et al.

Episode Date: October 27, 2023

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Yo guys, and welcome to another episode of the Joe Rogan experience review. It looks like Joe probably went hunting the last previous week because we just, I mean, they did a fight companion but there was just only two other shows. We have Coleman Hughes. Interesting guy. Smart dude. Canadian, I think, right? Is he Canadian talk? Perry smart. I don't remember him. And then his Canadian. No.

A son, Ahmed. Ahmed. Yeah, buddy. Funny, dude. I don't remember him. And then his Canadian know a son Ahmed Ahmed Yeah, buddy funny dude great guy. Do you remember seeing one of the comedians of the What sorry? I said comedy story meant the We called the new comedy sort of the mother ship the mother ship the mother ship We did not see him now. He he was not performing on On any of the shows that we watch, but he's always there. He performs that a lot. That's his home base now. Smart move for comedians. I mean, really any of the comedians that kind of took the, you know, the gamble, I guess you could say, a move to Austin with Joe early on. And we're like, yeah, let's create a new scene here. I mean,

they didn't know how that was going to go. They didn't know if he was really going to be able to put a club together or what was going to happen. But I think they're the ones that he, the Rogan's like given first dibs to when it comes to getting in, working at the comedy mothership. And you know, it just seems like, like you get, if you want to be a new comedian today and you have it done stand up before and you really want to put your effort in, I mean, it always used to be like moved in New York or LA, you know, get in the scene, start doing stand up at all the spots. Today, my advice would be move to Austin and do everything you can to get a job at the comedy mothership. There we go. You know, I mean, there's only so many

spots, obviously, and I'm sure they're fully booked for, but they always need people. And if you're around and in the community, you can be performing the Vulcan, but that's 100% what I would do if I was like, right? That's it. Thank you, Kyle, for not moving to Montana. Nice work. Austin is the shit. What did he say? The comedy mothership now has over 600,000 followers on Instagram. That's nuts. That makes it, I think, the most followed comedy club in the world on Instagram. That's not. That makes it, I think the most followed comedy club in the world on Instagram. And it's only been open how long six months. Well, and how many of all the best comedians have moved to Austin in the last year, like six? Yeah. Like everyone's there. Yeah. A little update on Coleman Hughes. So he is grew up in Montclair, New Jersey. So he is

definitely not Canadian. Uh, it's only, dude, he's only 27, 27 years old. Wow. Born in what he said philosophy major studied the brain. What did he do? Uh, he graduated from Columbia University with a BA in philosophy. Yeah, he said he spent most of his time studying consciousness. Hmm. So it seemed very chilled like a chill, so chill, you know, he's letting Joe ramble on and on and on about aliens and Joe was on one. Joe was on one that day. He must have just finished with a workout.

Yeah. Yeah, he either that, he got have just finished with a workout. Yeah. Yeah, either that we got into the smelling salts. Yeah, interesting. I had never met him. They didn't really mention where they how they know each other. Did they? I don't remember them mentioning if they how they became, you know, how it came to be that he was on the show. Yeah, well, he has a YouTube channel that's big. Okay. And he's kind of, you know, making waves for his ideas on that platform.

And he's just like clearly just very good at describing things. I mean, even when he laid out what's happening in the Middle East right now, with Hamas and Israel and he just kind of how the whole thing went down. I mean, honestly, that's like one of the better descriptions that I've heard. Absolutely. Yeah. So it says he's a writer and opinion columnist.

He specializes in issues related to race, public policy, and applied ethics. And then he has also as a podcast conversations with Coleman. Yeah, I didn't know a lot about him, but I like him. He's the kind of guy I think that would be a great repeat guess for Joe to have on, only because he's basically like a new source in a sense, right? He's like one of those online new source guys. And Joe's had a few of those people on here and there

and eventually they often get like quite polarizing or they just somehow fall out of favor with him and then it disappears. Like they just don't come back on the show. So it will be nice to have one that we can always trust that when he gets on the show, it's like, okay, tell us what's going on. Get to the fucking meat of what's going down. I was really interested in here and I want to know what you think about this Todd, like all the media bias towards RFK, right? I know there's that energy behind,

you know, this like anti-vaxing kind of thing that he does, you know, that people can, it's easy to pick on, but you know, he's raising a lot of money, people like him, you know, he's a Kennedy for God's sake. I mean, it's not like he's just some wacko. Right. And yet there's still

this like massive pushback. And I'm like, I don't know what to think about that. I mean, is he just going to be another one of those candidates that like barely gets one percent of the vote? And it's just a total waste of time to even run. Yes. Absolutely. He hate to say it. He's no Bernie. Yeah, if he runs as an intermediate or whatever independent, bud. It's sorry. He had independent. Then that's just like why anyone would even do that. I don't know. Look, the media is like the media knows you lost the race before you start. The media will just be on him like crazy. It's not going to work Unfortunately, he has no chance. I mean

Just to get in the debates. We are we we're not even having debates this time around are we? I don't even know if debates are a thing anymore. I feel like it's already I Can't bite and even do a debate honestly probably not but what what I did appreciate about Coleman was you know He said he read the books. He read the Fauci book. He seems very open-minded. You know, I felt like he agreed with a lot of the Fauci book after checking all the references and the sources. But what he did say with RFK was there was a lot of, you know, so-called facts that were cited in the book that were actually completely false. So that was interesting to hear because, you know, he also mentioned that if Peter came on hotes, that was his last name, right?

The guy who won't take $2 million to charity to go on Rogan to debate RFK. I thought Coleman brought up a good point. He's like, dude, I just read his book and You know granted there's a lot of sources that were correct, but there was also a lot of things that were incorrect and I'm gonna I'm gonna side with Coleman on this. He clearly went through the book and I like RFK. I think RFK is awesome, but You know unfortunately everyone's gonna think he's a cook and It's not gonna work, but I appreciated how said, why doesn't Peter come on and just cite those sources,

how they're incorrect and winning, winning game right there. I mean, get him on, dude. I would love, love, love to hear those guys debate. I'm upset that we kind of lost that conversation. This is what I don't get about it. And you're 100% right. If there are so many people, right, if the science says that they were always correct, then get a bunch of these smart scientists together

that agree with Coleman and then put together your argument, right? Yeah. He practices it. He brings his notes on and then he and RFK go at it. It's like you Potentially has a winning case if he believes in what he's saying and he can cite some things improve some things wrong and Other people can help him kind of put that argument together

The you know just this idea that it's going to be so one-sided, right? It's like, regardless of what Joe may think, like we know that Joe's like leaning on the side of like, you know, the COVID stuff was bullshit, and he's pro-RFK, but he's a very fair guy. If he's there in the middle of this conversation, he's not gonna keep jumping all over one of the guests because he just doesn't really do that. It doesn't do a lot for their side, I have to say.

Like the idea that coma won't go on is still a concern. It's like, why is that happening? Well, and it just is suspicious. It just kind of just gave up on that. At Salesforce, we're all about asking more of AI. Questions like, where's the data going? Is it secure? Are you sure?

Are you sure you're sure? Get answers you can trust from Salesforce at AskMoreVai.com. On the whole topic, really. It was a huge thing there for a while, but what I appreciated about what Coleman and Rogan brought up about RFK is that really they should be calling him an anti-methal mercury person. He's not an anti-vaccine guy. They're clearly wrong on that. I mean, he's just skeptical about the toxins that are in some of the vaccines,

the methyl mercury that the heavy metals that are in the vaccines, that is really what he is citing as creating, maybe creating autism, maybe creating some of these diseases that we didn't see in the past. And again, this is the one thing that he was very concerned about was the heavy metals and see in the past. And again, this is the one thing that he was very concerned about

was the heavy metals and toxins in the vaccines. He's not saying vaccines don't work or vaccines are bad. That's incorrect. And but that's what everybody says about him, right? And then they just think he's a cook. It just hits so hard though, when you're trying to discourage somebody, you know, in the public eye to say they're an anti-vaxer, right? But really this is a kin to saying, hey, I'm a health food person.

Yeah, and I don't think that you should eat processed foods. Yeah, right? This is imagine this is your whole spiel. You're on YouTube, you're one of those guys, and you're just like, I don't think you should eat processed food. And then the argument against you is that you are anti-food. Anti-food, right? And it's like, that doesn't, how could that even be an argument? It's like no, dude. Like, food, you need it.

You have to have it. Yeah, I think RFK understands that there are some vaccines you got to have and we have needed them in the past. But it's like, what are these poisons potentially? And that is a really good question because people don't like to talk about it. You even ask the question, people start looking at you weird, like you're a fucking flat earfer. And it's like, hey, I'm just wondering what this stuff is that I'm about to inject in my kids. Yeah.

Well, don't give it to your kids. Don't do it. Oh, COVID vaccine. Do you know it's down? Like, it's like 3% or something for people right now, getting it. Really? The new booster?

Yeah, it's like way down. People are just not into around. People are smart. People are smart. Take vitamin D exercise. I thought it was really interesting, the talk about believers and people who believe in God and other countries and how strong that belief is, right? And this whole, you know, this, this thing about the, the war that's going on in the Middle East that we can't even understand as Americans or Westerners of, you know, how you could do these things. And it's like, these people just think they're going to go to heaven as soon as someone else dies. So it's like, if you throw a bomb, whoever you're throwing a bomb at,

it doesn't matter. They're going straight to heaven. So cool. Makes it easier, right? That was an interesting comment because really not that many people believe that we're going to sit up in the clouds with Azuz in this country. Yeah, it's just Right, I mean, I don't know the numbers, but I Think most people just say they're spiritual, bro Most people are just going to birdie man and they're they're trying you know, understand God in a, at a molecular level. Yeah.

Do you think being religious makes you less scared of death or less willing to give up on life? You know, those people that like, they get old, they're like old people and then they are just hanging on for every surgery, every possible bit of, It's like so few people seem to just kind of accept the fact that they're like, all is shit and they're on the way out and just let it happen. And I wonder if religious people are like less likely to hold on that way.

They're just like, yeah, I get to go to another place. I believe this. So I'm cool. Probably, I'm sure my grandmother was stoked. You know, I'm going to go see he's going to go see her husband and they're going to go hang out and play cards in the clouds. You know, it's almost like maybe the trick is just to get religious when you get really old. But when you young, just think free, be a hippie, be spiritual, whatever. But then when you get old, just be like,

all right, I need to log something in just to be sure. All right, Jesus, you're right. Well, but dude, if you don't believe as Hazeus as your savior, you're not going to heaven, dude. So that's a good point. You can't pretend. You know, so I don't know what you can do. I don't know what's happening with all those other religions. I don't know what kind of heaven they have,

but it's different than Jesus's heaven. It's a weird thing. It's a bit on faven in a way, because like where I was brought up in England, like nobody was religious around me. I didn't know anyone though, like went to church or was religious and believed in God. And, you know, I think I knew a couple of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Isn't the church the pub? Isn't that you just go to the pub? Basically. So because I had no concept of any of that, I moved to America when I'm 13. And a lot of people, because I was in New Mexico, a lot of people were religious. And they fucking believe in Jesus.

And that was that say. And it was like, they would try and encourage me to go to church. And oh, yeah, if you come, you're like, you'll just feel it. And then you're saying and then you accept them into your heart. That was always the thing that they said. And sometimes I would hang out with some friends and go to church.

We did have one church that a lot of really hot girls from my high school went to. So of course I went to that one for a minute. But, you know, I'm a teenager. You're motivated by different things. There you go. But it's not like I could just become religious. Like it just, it didn't make sense to me. I was like, I don't know how to believe in someone like that. Like this isn't like anything I was told.

So I guess tough for me. I never get to go to heaven. Turns out. Well, it interesting with the, with the consciousness and this was my favorite part of this whole conversation was with It's kind of towards the end where Coleman brings up how he studied philosophy and consciousness was kind of his Forte right that was what he was into and This this whole notion that everything has a consciousness, right or Or maybe just humans have it, we don't really know. But, you know, maybe my plant has a consciousness too. We don't really know. We don't know what it is. But in my mind, and I think Joe is similar in this respect of thinking that God is within us,

right? Like the universe is God. And he always says this, like, like, God is just everything, right? And that's why the whole notion of heaven to me has always been weird because everybody's like trying to get somewhere. But then they forget about all the things they're supposed to be doing here. It's like, oh, if I believe in Jesus and I read scripture and I read this and I do this, well, what about like family and what about, you know, caring about your neighbor? I feel like some of that stuff gets lost, at least in my opinion from what I've seen

with people who claim to be very religious is that it seems very fake to me, right? They're like, they're always saying one thing and doing another, But that, that's just me. That's just what I've experienced. But I like Joe's perspective. And I think Coleman's perspective of this universal thought that we all have. It's like, couldn't that just be God? Isn't that why we have a conscious? That's how I think of it. It's like, you know right from wrong. That's your conscious is telling you that.

Even some do to murder someone knows that it's wrong. They're not like, oh, that was fucking sweet. That was cool. Like, nothing wrong with that, right? You don't just learn, you don't learn right and wrong just because God said it's right and wrong. It's like, it's literally ingrained in us. It always has been.

I think there is definitely some of that. Like it is pretty clear, like that innate guilty feeling you get when you do something wrong. It's not just fear of repercussions or punishment. It's like, oh, I did something. I know that I did something bad. Yeah, that's not a guy. And if you do enough of it, you're going to feel awful.

And it's kind of yet built into that system for something there. And that is consciousness, man. It's like it's it's it's you know, you could go on and on and on. We don't know exactly, but I feel like we all can relate to that feeling that we're just talking about, we all know what is right or wrong. I always like that thing that Joe says that it's like our brain is maybe an antenna for consciousness. And he said these things like often before. It's like, yeah, it's just this accumulation of atoms and this weird setup. It's just all parts of the universe anyway, and all of a sudden it can do things and think and be aware of itself. Like he says, you're the universe experiencing itself. It's tight. Yeah, it is tight. And it's like, why chop the arm off the body still going. The leg,

you know, even take the heart out and replace it with another hot. It's like you're still going. The brain, you shoot a bullet through that, you switch off. It's done. It's like the antenna breaks. Yeah, but we don't, but our consciousness still lives. It's like they were saying it, they were saying it, it could be in every atom. What was that pan-psychism?

The view that all things have a mind or a mind-like quality. That's what Coleman was kind of preaching on there for a minute. The pan-psychism. Yeah, like a type of consciousness that it's not really, I guess, like, realized, you know. Well, he was saying that it's, well, pan-psychism, this is just a theory, right? That the view that all things have a mind or a mind-like quality. So not just humans, but everything. Well, it's weird what he said that we are no closer to answering the question of what consciousness is today as we ever have been. It's like science can't even answer it. It's something called the same. And that whole bit was just brilliant, I thought. It's very interesting. It's like science isn't designed to answer that question.

It seems like a question science should answer. Or we'll be able to, but it's just the way science is set up. It's like, it's more of potentially a philosophy question. Well, it's science is observable, observable things. If you can't observe it, you can't have any sort of theory or you can't test it if you can't see it. You can't see consciousness. So how are you supposed to? It seems it seems like we should be able to, right? You can, but you can see consciousness. You feel it. You feel it. Okay. Right. We feel it ourselves. So every single person gets to experience this. So every individual person knows that they have it and you can look at another person and be like, oh, they have consciousness. Like we can do that. But the way that we just don't know what the fuck it is.

Yeah. Like what is it then? Well, it sure is going to be weird when we can read people's minds, because you know that's going to be happening soon. I love how we made that video from the World Health Forum again. Of that lady, she's like thinking about the hot dude and ends up getting fired or like her boss knows that she's thinking about the hot guy, right? Yeah, that was creepy as hell. thinking about the hot guy, right? Yeah, that was creepy as hell. Crazy.

Oh, dude, how about the gut bacteria, right? That's kind of this whole idea that, you know, our body works, obviously our body works together with our brain, like our gut is connected to our brain somehow. We don't really understand how that works either, do we? But we know it, it's a thing. Yeah, I mean, they can link like anxiety, depression, ill health to like gut bacteria. Yeah. And like all gut bacteria, for sure. Human behavior off of gut bacteria. What was that? What was the thing about the the tattoo

behind the ear? How it could predict what you're thinking about. Did you write anything down about that? Oh, I don't remember that. It was the, he called it FMRI or ESG. It's an actual tattoo. Sorry. He mentioned that they were, that there was something in China where they're putting tattoos behind people's ears and they can sense kind of like the way you're reacting to things.

So like they have enough data if they, you know, have enough of these tattoos on people, they have enough data of how they're thinking, excuse me, from the tattoo. I'm gonna have to look this up because I wrote it down and I didn't look it up, but seem kind of crazy. I mean, I think it's similar to, you know, probably like a lie detector test, right? I don't know how that works with a tattoo. But like, they can tell from the nerves, right? It's like it's like, it's sending a message through whatever they added on, like near your head, right? I'm going gonna look that up. Well, I mean, they talked a bunch about AI and like how that should be kind of regulated

and created and on the same line as anything AI, the more we implement AI into situations at social otherwise the workplace, I think AI is gonna be very good at predicting behavior. It's like you won't interview with, you won't be interviewing with like people at the office soon. You'll be interviewing with an AI. I'm sure. And it just be a program that will just be able to predict how well they're going to work. Are they telling the truth? Are they a good employee? It just be able to figure all those things out from a bunch of cue points of how you're

looking, how you're behaving, how you quickly respond to answers. It's going to be very strange, dude. I'm just going to sit there and get... Can I talk to a real human? Press zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero. Let me talk to a real human goddammit. I need to pay my credit card bill. I don't want to talk to you. I need to ask a question to Wells Fargo. And I don't want to talk to a computer. So hopefully the new AI can at least get on the other end of the phone when I dial and I listen to

some automated bullshit. And I can't get the answer I need because man that's we only don't like the automated stuff now because it's so fun to work. No, it's like did you say this? Yeah, say yes and it's like no I didn't. The best is when it's like you know you call the banker whatever and it just goes just what can we help you with? And it's like, you know, you call the bank or whatever and it just goes, um, just, what can we help you with? And it's like, Hey, I can't just say anything. You're not going to know what I'm saying. And that shit never fucking works.

But when it gets good, dude, when it's like an AI that's like, Oh, yeah, tell me what you need and wear sorted right out. This is great. We've got great relationships with you and you have money in the bank. I'd be happy to help you. Yeah. And you always get through to somebody. I'd be happy to help you. Yeah. And you always get through to somebody because they don't have to pay a fucking call sense anymore.

All right. So, it was with, I'm looking this up so I don't sound stupid here, functional magnetic resonance imaging. So FMRI, it says it's an imaging or functional MRI. It measures brain activity by detecting changes associated with blood flow. So what Coleman was saying is there's some sort of tattoo that they're trying to figure out that can tell the way your blood is flowing so that it will tell it will be able to. And they obviously haven't figured this out yet.

But the idea is to then be able to see how people are performing, right? And if they're, if they're, if they're, if their mind is, you know, for whatever reason, the blood flow is, is saying, like, you're into it or you're not into it, I don't fucking know, but it seemed crazy. I mean, at the end of the day, look, at the end of the day, employers, if you're employed by a corporation, they will know everything that you are thinking and doing, which is fucking crazy. Yeah. I mean, we think it's bad now self employed.

We think it's bad now. It's going to get strange. Let's jump over to anyway, let's finish up with Coleman. He is an interesting guy. I hope he goes back on very smart, dude, really calm demeanor and a great way of breaking things down. I mean, I like to laudate that conversation, for sure. Oh, dude, for a 27-year-old so chill, very open-minded. Seems to just want to know the answers.

He's very meticulous with his research, you know? Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's a young guy. I'd vote for him for president. Let's go. Let's jump over to a son Ahmed. Yeah, great comedian, dude. Funny, funny guy.

So he's been doing this for some time. Obviously, like we were saying at the beginning, big, down then, the comedy mothership now. You know, I loved how they were talking about like we were saying at the beginning, big, down then the comedy mothership now. You know, I loved how they were talking about good old kill Tony regular William. What's William's last name? Moon Cumbery. That's it, Montgomery. And Joe was like, I can't put him on first.

He's too bizarre. He just freaked the crowd out. Like someone's got to warm him up first before you can bring William out. But guys, it's a good point. I love it. He's one of my favorites of all time. He's always talking about the Chupacabra Cantina. I love how he brought that up because we heard that when we were there.

Like, yeah, he's at the Chupacabra Cantina. He's always talking about how their food sucks. He probably gets free food over there because he mentions it so much. He's now down. He fucking not even mad, dude. He loves the canteen. Yeah, it is funny. While we were there, I did Google that place to see if it was like any good and the reviews are not great. So maybe, maybe he doesn't think that it's actually that good, but it's a Mexican joint just around the corner from the comedy mothership.

Yeah. Yeah. What are we going back? Let's go soon. Let's talk about making that happen. We should. It should be like a yearly pilgrimage, I think. So at least by next April, we'll go back down there.

Oh, yeah. Well, I just want to mention, I don't want to get on the war stuff too much, but the whole hospital thing, I mean, they went into it for a while there. It's just crazy how they don't, like basically the media picked up all this stuff about that hospital getting blown up. And then actually, the real news is that it was the parking lot next to the hospital. And so everybody's retracting. So it's just, it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, come on, New York Times, we're supposed to believe you. We already don't want to. And now I don't even more. Like, well done. How about the lack of pollution from cargo ships is making the climate warmer.

That was something I hadn't heard before. Like during COVID, there was so little cargo ships. Actually, the climate is getting warmer because more sun is getting reflected off of the ocean and creating a warmer climate because there's not enough pollution in the air to block all that nastiness. Well, it was, yeah, they were saying that the ocean was getting warmer because there's not like clouds above it. One thing I noticed at the beginning of COVID because obviously I lived in LA

Is the air and a lot of people noticed this it was like if that you didn't need to bring it up in conversation People were talking about it. It was the the air got so clean within like a week Yeah, really the lockdowns mainly I think because people weren't driving on the freeway And the one of the biggest pollutants is the brake dust. You know, it's like the car emissions is not great, but it's just a gas and it dissipates and it does increase the carbon in the atmosphere. But it's not like heavy matter that floats around

in a dust that gets in your lungs. And the brake dust does that I mean it was almost always everywhere at your place a lot of people didn't have AC out there So they just have the windows open, you know If you need the ocean you get like fresh air, but everything had this like weird black dust on it after a while And I'm sure it was from that break dust and in, of course, no planes in the sky, right? So nothing was flying. I mean, it just smelled so different.

It was really interesting. It could smell the sea. Yeah, I mean, it was cleaner, right? But I don't know. It still sounds to me like we should lower emissions on those fucking massive tankers dragon shit all over the planet. I mean, even if the water is heating up a bit more, it's like, yeah, but ultimately isn't it still better to figure out a way to run those things on something else? Little nuclear reactors or electric?

Well, we all know nuclear is the way to go, but that doesn't make enough money on them. It doesn't. All right, well, they got into spirituality again. We might as well go there again because we're talking about good energy and bad energy. And you know, you feel it, right? You just feel it in some people. Like it's this whole thing. You walk into the room, either light up some people. Some people just sucked it it or you just get all your energy Just gets drained and you're like, oh god, but it's so it's such a real thing. I mean without even talking You can just feel it in people if they're nervous or They're energies bad or there's just something there and that that's the whole thing

I mean if you have you had it where you're at a party and it's like, and you're a good storyteller of party, like you're always fun, you know, you've got good energy, you're just being silly, making people laugh all the rest of it. And then somebody grabs everyone's attention. And they're like, oh, yeah, I thought about that too. And then they just go into this long story that doesn't match any of the energy to party. They're trying to make like a particular point like they want to switch you over

when you're vote or something. And you're just like, dude, this is so fucking boring, and not relevant at all. And then no one wants to talk after that, awkward silence, everyone gets a little weird. People start walking away. Couple of people just walk away.

That's always a good move, just the like back out one of those. But the worst thing is those people will drag you in that find someone that they can drag into the conversation. So you can't just be like, yeah, I don't know, dude. I don't know. That's where you want to put your thumb up and just say great. And then walk off. I mean, it's not fair.

The people that trap people like that at parties, you need to. And to not know that you're doing that is weird, right? Because I know several people, I'm thinking of one in particular who, you know, you go to their house and all of a sudden, they've had a little too much to drink and you're like, oh, fuck, I'm gonna get out of here. Steve's gonna tell a story and I'm not gonna be able to leave. Right. And you have to make something up.

You gotta make something up. Like, my dog's got diarrhea. I have diarrhea. I have AIDS. I've got it. No, for real. Like, I've got a phone call. I gotta take, you know, if you've been on the phone with someone and you're like, oh, another phone call's coming in, I gotta go. Those are the types of people that you

don't know how to just say, hey dude, I gotta go. Because they just are telling you a story over and over and over. I usually do just say, hey, I gotta go. So I need to be better about that. Yeah, I don't, I just can't be bothered to make up something that is not like I won't pretend that someone else is calling me just to get out of it. I'll just be like, yeah, I gotta go, dude. Yeah. It's, it's just so much better that way. But you, what's interesting about it is like these people are getting feedback all the

time. Like how do you not know just the feedback? That's what I'm saying. How do you not know that you're doing this? How do you not know that you're trapping me into this conversation of a story that I don't want to hear? Right.

It's strange. Yeah. I mean, if you and I are talking, and I like, I'll notice myself that my story sucks. It is irrelevant or is just like Debbie Downer or whatever. It's just not good. Right. Because I can look at you and see

that you would not be interested at all. And I'll just be like, do this story sucks. I apologize, let's move on. And then we laugh and that's the end of it. These people do not catch it. They are missing those cues. It's like the me trying to explain FMRI like 10 minutes ago. I realized that I was just going on and on

about something I have no fucking clue about. You look it up, you read some shit. I still don't understand it, but I'm trying to, I'm trying to make sense of it. As I'm talking to you and I could just see your face going on, Todd, please, next point, please. Well, it is funny, the occasionally, well, when we're doing this part and it must be the way that you take notes, it's like You listen to a part of the podcast, you know Joe or his guest has something that you obviously find interesting that I didn't pay attention to at all Because like I didn't know like I didn't remember that part of it. Oh, whatever and For some reason it captures you and you're like, oh, yeah,'ll make a note about this. But then you can't fucking

describe it. But you still try. I have a lot of notes. Yeah, and it's like, well, don't just don't talk about a note that you have that you can't make sense of. Well, I brought it up to see if you could explain it to me, Adam, but clearly you were listening to that fucking part. I'm not responsible for that. Okay. Oh, you gotta be. Oh, what was that shit about? They were talking about like some of the immigrants and it's like Venice, Wala.

They wanna like send them back. Like there's like a new policy where the government is gonna send primarily Venice, Wailen immigrants back. And it's because they came from a socialist place and they're far less likely to vote Democrat. So it's like we don't want them. Is that fucking possible?

Good luck. How are you going to do that? Is this a thing that's happening? Like they're only taking immigrants, they're going to vote for the democratic party. That's a mean you would think then if that's a move that's smart, then why wouldn't the Republicans want a bunch of Venice, Waylands to come here? That would that seems that that would be smart for them, but they don't like any immigrants coming here. They get real hung up on immigrants.

Seems to be a thing they get hung up on. That and food stamps, I don't know. I'm not sure, buddy. And then a few other notes I have is when he was talking about how history is taught in school or like different countries, and this is an interesting thing to think about because like obviously I grew up in England.

So they didn't teach us American history. In fact, they didn't even really teach us a lot about, like, the war of independence, which is a big part of the history of America. It's a war between England and America, and then America got freedom. Great job. Because they were lost. They don't want to talk about being losers. Exactly. It's like we just go over real quick. We're like, yeah, we just we just lost in

culture. We just lost in culture. We just lost in culture. We just lost in culture. And it's like, Hey, guys, it's kind of a big deal. But he was talking about knowing this Indian girl in school that had no idea like who Hitler was. Right. Right. Crazy. That's so nice. I mean, come on. Yeah. It was interesting because my grandfather was in World War II. He repaired radios. He was like a radio FM radio like Repaguy or AM. I don't know what the reason. But he was stationed

in India. So there was something going on over there that was like to do with the war. We had a presence. I guess India just wasn't a big part of it, right? Or there's a big part of it, then you got your own problems. Not to be so sad. Like you don't know what's the word about that war. I mean, I didn't learn much about Genghis Khan until this conversation. No, yeah.

I always knew he was like, kill a lot of people, dude. Messing stuff up and raiding everything and killing everybody, but man, just to think about the amount of bones, like literally like mountains of dead humans, it was like that crazy, is that for real? Yeah, supposedly.

Rodding animal skins on their skin, because they're just like so barbaric. Yeah, the rats, rat coats, well, you know, Joe gets all of the reason he has the all of that information is because he get got it from hardcore history, which is like a podcast series that is super fascinating. They did the produces that put so much fucking work into it.

And I mean, it's, it's remarkable how much work he puts in to create these stories. And yeah, mountain of bones, change the carbon footprint of the earth. It's, I still don't even really understand what that means. It's like, okay, you killed a lot of people. So the, the carbon would still be what, in their bones, wouldn't they just be in the ground then? Why would it change the carbon footprint? Because all those people aren't eating food.

Maybe. It's a lot of people, dude. What do you say 10% of the earth? They killed. So crazy. Well, on a good note, the breaking someone in a set, I love hearing about that, because you know, you get, you always have somebody in the crowd or crowds of people who maybe don't like the set you're doing. And S on was just saying, like, look, I love when you just, you go in there and maybe you think you might not have a good set. And there's somebody kind of giving you shit and all of a sudden, you turn them around, right, and you get them on your side.

And then all of a sudden, it's like a community, again, it's like this positive energy that you get from a crowd, right? It's like why live comedy is so much better than watching it on Netflix because there's an energy, there's an energy in the room. So if somebody's being a total dick, that can like ruin an entire night, just one person being an asshole, right? 100%. 100%.

And turning that person around, I mean, that's got a, man, that's got to feel good. It's hard to do. What they say is, it's about as hard to do is you can imagine honestly group hypnosis, dude That's what that's what it is. That's what he's saying. Yep. Yeah That's that's one hundred percent it it's it is it's like a mass hypnosis effect and You know the skill that is required is This is what you have to remember about every single comedian that you watch, that's good. If you watch a comedian up there and they're good, they're only good because they walk through

the same fire is every other comedian that has become good. And this is why they all have such a type on because it's like, nobody got there just because they were always funny. Right. They got there because they are funny. They've got funny, but mostly because they can withstand all those horrible sets. It's like these guys and gals become kind of invincible in that way. Like they cannot be stopped, dude. It's really fucking cool stuff.

There's a lot of support. There's a lot of support coming up. That's for sure. At least in Austin, Austin seems like the supportive fucking backbone right now. It was funny to hear Joe say, and he doesn't think these people are from LA are gonna, whether they're still giving these guys shit

or like some of the actors that are comedians won't move from LA because they're so used to LA. I think that's just an older crowd. That's just an older crowd. I think it's all going to converge, man. Austin's the new spot. Yeah, and I think it's still great that the LA scene is like coming back around.

But I mean, if you go on the Comedy Store website and see who's headlining over there, it's not the headline as they used to have. It's not the headline as they used to have. It's not the group that they used to have over there. And I've been since the mothership opened, I back to the comedy store when I visited LA. We went up there for a show. And it was, I hate to say it, but like mostly average at best. I didn't know most of the comedians.

And it's just kind of what they got to work with right now. They just that kind of that. You got any other notes before we end this one? They're definitely not selling out every night. That's for sure. No, it doesn't seem like it did. They were not when I went there. They used to be big lines of the comedy store and we would just we walked right in when I went Yeah, on their website back in June I think just as low ticket warning was shit, dude Joe doesn't even need a website What else I got one last thing here. Oh, how does AI get incentive? Let's figure it out people give AI

Incentive and they will start crushing. How do we do it? We're about to find out What do you mean incentive? Well, it's just saying like you know, we work harder if there's like a prize at the end of the hall You know like if we know we're gonna get something and typically it's money, right? There's incentive because we get paid Yeah, but how do you teach AI that, right? Because AI, if they don't have, you know, I don't know what that is, that drive that we have to do and create and, you know, make things. There's those incentive drive though. Like they're just like AI. Maybe just gonna do whatever you tell it today. Maybe just program it. I

don't know. Maybe just program it. But program drive. All right. On that note, we call it Deeks and Week. Interesting guys. I'd like to see more of them. Todd, thank you as always. I appreciate it guys and gals. Thanks for tuning in and we will talk to you next week. Thanks for tuning in. we will talk to you next week. Thanks for tuning in, Bezo.