Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 365 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Taylor Sheridan Et al.

Episode Date: January 10, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:33 Hey guys, and welcome to another episode of the JRE review. That is the Joe Rogan Experience review for those still unsure. What we do is we review the Joe Rogan experience. We love that show. We like talking about it. We hope you do too. Join us always.
Starting point is 00:00:54 My co-host Pete. Hey, don't be. Hey, howdy. Doing well. How are you doing? Great. Great. Good week of Rogan's.
Starting point is 00:01:04 He's always got somebody on, doesn't he? He does. He'd be weird if he did on his own. Hey, what are you talking about? Aliens all by himself? Just all by himself. He just eats and it elks, steak and then gets really high and watches probably conspiracy documentaries with Jamie.
Starting point is 00:01:21 I think it would be good, actually. That could be a good show. Has Jamie ever appeared just as him and Jamie? He hasn't and that's interesting that you bring that up because I think there's a real opportunity for a series of Jamie only pods. It would be cool if they kind of finished out the year like that. Just like did their own kind of recap of like, what was cool, what they liked, you know. But yeah, just to get Jamie on will be cool. But Jamie's kind of mysterious like that.
Starting point is 00:01:52 He stays pretty quiet, you know. I always imagine he looks like Tony Hitchcliff. He just has that like, I just see his face and I think that's what Jamie looks like. You can see pictures of him on his Instagram and he shows up sometimes in videos and different things. It seems like a nice guy. I like Jamie.
Starting point is 00:02:15 I like the meet him. We got Taylor Sheridan, the creator of Yellowstone in 1883 and a secario, that was a great movie. Did that. Did that one? Yeah. That's an old movie. It is, but it's good. I'm gonna have to watch that one again.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Very violent. Then we have Dr. Debra Soe. And Tony was on that week, but, but we're briefly chat about Tony, but usually like the more regular guys we skip over those, because they talk about pretty similar things. But it was a good episode. I mean, to give you an idea, Kill Tony,
Starting point is 00:02:53 I used to go to Kill Tony pretty regularly. It was on Mondays at the Comedy Store from like 2016 to close to 2020. I went all the time, I love that show. It was very small. It started in the belly room. The comedy store does three rooms, the main room, another room, and then the belly room. The belly room is very small. It's like, I don't know what the capacity is, maybe like 60 people, maybe a bit more, but close to 60. I mean, it's a small room.
Starting point is 00:03:26 And that was it. That's where it started. And there was just, it was one of the kind of smaller shows that the comedy store put on. They always have these like little shows. They'd be trying things out. Comedians would put shows together. Some of them picked up and, you know, got a bit bigger.
Starting point is 00:03:42 But a lot of them just, it's just trying them out, right? It's just a way to not have, when you don't have big hitter comedians on all the time, it's just a way to get your friend comedians together and just try and make a show. And it was pretty similar in a lot of ways to what it is now, honestly, but it has grown so huge now, and it's so popular after all the years of hard work,
Starting point is 00:04:07 that really Tony put it. I mean, he's the ultimate talent behind all this. You know, they're selling out at Arena for New Year's. And that's good luck trying to get Kill Tony tickets when you go to Austin. It's hard to get into that show, but it's always been one of the funnest and best shows to go watch. And now it's just out of control with the band, how big it is, just the way they've got set up, the caliber of comedians they've got coming on, the regulars that they have, William Montgomery, just like the funniest, craziest ginger, lunatic. And that guy's nuts.
Starting point is 00:04:45 It's amazing. So shout out to Tony, well done for all your success and well deserved. I mean, he he has been an absolute genius and legend since the first day I saw him up there on Killtony. I mean, it was a small show. He wasn't that well-known, but there's always been something about that guy, just so funny, so witty. It's brilliant. So, anyway, check out that part with Rogan and Tony Legend. It's great to see you.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Let's start with Taylor Sheridan, I think. And then we'll finish up with Doctor. But you watch the Yellowstone show. I haven't seen that. Never. People are rave about it, but I have not seen that at all. No. People are all over. I'm interested in his next one, the 1883.
Starting point is 00:05:38 That sounds really good to me. I'm going to check that out. I've seen some bits of that. It's pretty grueling. And it's crazy to think. I mean, that's literally a hundred years before we were born. And it's just chaos trying to live. Wait, back then.
Starting point is 00:05:54 200 years? No, 100 years, huh? 100, yeah. Born in, I was born in 1981. That makes sense. She was, time has changed. Things are different. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know for sure, but yeah, I think my great grandfather was alive then. Yeah, my grandpa's dad, yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:22 And if I didn't, then come over in a covered wagon. I mean, my great grandfather didn't he just stood out in the rain in his garden. It is England. Yeah, he's sitting there. Is he eating his cornish pasties or something? No, don't if he was lucky. Probably couldn't even travel all the way to Cornwall. It's only about 30 miles away, but back in those days, through this once. Bones are weaker from the rickets.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Oh, for sure. Well, you know, I just moved from Boseman, Montana down to good old Tennessee. I came to the South, came to the South to start a family, but living in Boseman, obviously that's in Montana. That's where a lot of people have moved out to. And I would say most people are not that keen on the show Yellowstone. I think they're just worried that it's going to make people want to move up there, make the rich folk move up there, which kind of is the plot to Yellowstone anyway. You've got
Starting point is 00:07:21 like the old school cowboy farmers that have been around forever with their land and then you've got the rich people moving in and wanting to buy up property and make ski resorts and there's a lot of clashing and conflict over that. You did say that like the plot is basically don't take my land. I want your land. It's all about land land. Everything's probably about land dude. Land is wealth. Really is really is but Kevin Kossner is great in that and Rip I think is he's like the henchman guy tough guy is some brilliant characters definitely worth watching it gets guy, tough guy is some brilliant characters, definitely worth watching. It gets a bit like everyone's kind of killing everyone and nobody seems to go to jail for it
Starting point is 00:08:12 stuff, but that's TV. That's TV. Yeah, just bearing in the woods and the next episode starts and there seems to be no major investigation. They're like, oh, I guess they are those people disappeared. I've seen Bill around. I want his land. Bill's got one is loud. Bill's gone. But this guy's made some phenomenal movies. I mean, imagine putting in the research necessary to make
Starting point is 00:08:40 Sucario. Who was in that? Benicio del Toro. So that guy's that Al Pacino. Let me look. Well, maybe I'm not even saying the right movie. Sucario, it seems, let's see, that's older, right? 80s? No, it's, it's, I might be messing this up. Let's see I think that one's
Starting point is 00:09:07 No, it's a car was 2015. Yeah, that's directed by Stefano solo Ima and Dennis Villanuele Well, so you're saying that Taylor Sheridan had nothing to do with this So you're saying that Taylor Sheridan had nothing to do with this? He must have wrote it, right? Probably something like that. He's a script writer, isn't he? He's a director. Yeah, he wrote it.
Starting point is 00:09:40 He wrote that. Yeah, he's done. Yellowstone 1883, Wind River 1923. See, Heller Highwater, we loved that one. Tulsa King. Oh, Sicario 2015, what did he have to do with it? Did he write it? He must have wrote it.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Yeah, he probably wrote it because he's the director's Dennis. Oh, and then he also talked about the Angelina Jolie movie who's those who wish me dead. Those who wish me dead. I didn't see that one. I think that one's as that came out yet. At 2021, they made it. 2021. They made it out here in my neck of the woods. That's a New Mexico film.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Oh, good old Angelina. Still hot. Did she get a boob job? Can I say that on air? You're allowed to. Okay. We'll beef it out. Okay. Like for fuck's sake Pete, stop saying boob job. Don't be proud of the rest of it. Just budget. Yeah, she did because she had a double mastectomy, right? Because of...
Starting point is 00:10:47 A gene? A gene, like a first share cancer gene. Yeah. Glad they can find those things these days. Well done to them. Well done. Well, let's talk about 1883 times and how hard and crazy it was to live back then. So Taylor was kind of mentioning that, you know, they would advertise this like great escape
Starting point is 00:11:13 and adventure away from Europe. Yeah, like people from Denmark or wherever Germany they'd be like, all right, let's go. And they'd get over there and I think it was like the Mormons would promise them like, you know, a horse and cart, but when they got there, they'd ran out of them. So they just had like a wheelbarrow or something. We're like, just push your stuff over the mountain. I think that, you know, the Europeans of course came from Europe and they had no idea about what was happening over here. That free land was occupied by somebody, the Native Americans.
Starting point is 00:11:48 They were here. Right. They had to fight those guys, or just more than likely get killed by those guys, or robbers. I bet a lot of them got killed by him. I mean, it's not like they were tried and tested warriors coming over here. They just had their family, and they were like, build a cabin and all of a sudden a bunch of natives are like, what are you doing in this area? We live here and we're going to take your stuff and burn your cabin.
Starting point is 00:12:18 It's kind of, it's kind of, it's happens all over the world, but it's unfortunate. It's sad isn't it? Yeah. But those guys, Taylor was talking about, it was not the successful blacksmiths or tailors or cabin builders that are moving less. It's the schmucks, it's the second suns, it's the guy that doesn't inherit anything, it's the guy that doesn't have any money. And it just goes out there with probably very little skills. I have to make a go of it. And then they end up in Comanche country. And no one's warning them. These guys don't live there. They roll through there. And they just take your wife, murder her, take your kids, raise them up, dance their own, and you're just
Starting point is 00:12:59 a mound in the dirt. You're dead. No doubt. Those guys will kill you. Yeah, they were messing around. So they would go from often from Ohio and they'd have to get to Utah. And then there was a certain point if you didn't get there by like, what was it around like 4th of July? 4th of July. New Wyoming.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Yeah, we are Wyoming. If you didn't get that far, the winter was gonna get you. Let's try to get a move on. The middle of summer. Yeah, but it was gonna get you. That's crazy. It's the middle of summer. Yeah, but it's a long way. Gotta get going. Yeah, you basically gotta start in winter, I guess, from the other side.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Yeah, that makes sense. It started out so not. Late winter and just haul ass. It's just like, if that was the choice today for people, I mean, we talk a lot about the people from the past just being much hardier. And it's like, we're all the same humans, but it's very true. Like, nobody would make that journey. We'd all just go, no, even if we knew where we were staying would be really hard to, like, we have none of the skills necessary to go do this.
Starting point is 00:14:03 You just said, you'd have to be hard in somehow. We could do it, but we would have to like lose our mother to call her. I mean, we were five exactly. I mean, we can't do it now is what I'm saying. You know what I mean? I'm not going to get off the couch, dude. No. I mean, just along the way, it's like, I don't know how much money they had
Starting point is 00:14:23 or they weren't like convenience stores. I mean, there must have been catching food as they went and fishing and possibly trading and doing those sort of things. Take as much as you can take. Do you think that's what they did? Took a lot of supplies. Oh, yeah. And then you're going to want to shoot deer along the way.
Starting point is 00:14:44 And you know, and then eventually, when this organ trail popped up, then you're going to want to shoot deer along the way. And, you know, and then eventually when this organ trail popped up, or was well established, it was like a wasteland in some of the spots in the great plains because the wagons would make a ruts and kill the grass and run the deer off. So it was pretty hard, very hard, starving times. And as, and as likely to get killed by what bandits as you were by Indians and maybe even more so, bandits were a big deal back then. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:13 And a lot of disease, right? Wasn't the Oregon Trail game everyone would always dive decentary? Oh, your dad. Yeah. It's like the game was just all text and crappy pictures and be like go left and this could happen and go right and that could happen and you're like, ah, go left and it's like your whole family's dead from this and Terry.
Starting point is 00:15:32 You're like, I'm going to cross the stream. Oh, everyone drowned. Tough time. Oxen have floated away. You think that's why people had way more kids back in the day. I mean, they didn't have birth control. So maybe it was just they were popping out, but it made a lot more sense to have tons of kids, because you're going to make journeys like that.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Who knows who's going to make it? You need a sturdy gal. You need a big old thick wife. Not them babies. Strong. Sprit like a square. Good at splitting logs. That's what you need. That's the wife about to get her back on top of that, I guess.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Yeah, if you have one of those fitness Instagram models along the way, you're one and a half meals away from starving to death. You are no good with this axe. Too lean. Too lean, dude. Too lean. With their stories back then of like cannibalism, is that what the Donna party was all about? Didn't they? Yeah, that's that's called survival cannibalism. And that's like, that's the best case scenario for when you're eating a person.
Starting point is 00:16:40 You don't want to just eat somebody because you're a sick deferred bomber type, you're going to want to eat somebody because you're in the middle of the Reno area, Nevada, in the coolest mountains ever, but there's a 20 feet of snow and you can't go forward. So you just have to eat gam gam whenever she passes. Yeah. Well, you want to eat all people. I don't think. I eat food first. I don't know. I mean, it's the first.
Starting point is 00:17:05 I was watching a new show on Netflix called Society of the Snow. It's like a foreign film, but it's dubbed well, and it's about the rugby team that crashed in the Andes, I think in like the late 70s. It's a famous story, I remember it growing up. And they kind of call off the rescue crew after a period of time because like, no, out of like the 35 known crashes, playing crashes up until then, in the Andes, there'd never been any survivors. So they assume these guys wouldn't survive, but they survived a long time, many of them, and went through all the trials and yeah, we're eating other people
Starting point is 00:17:46 that I'd eat. I'd eat you buddy. You'd have to. I give you permission to eat whoever get trapped in the snow. I wouldn't give you and I would also tell you that I would put a curse on you. And then you just start going for it where like I'm a little hungry. I'm gonna you know what? Pete looks tasty. Like it's been two hours. It's still a lot of peanuts left on this flight. I'm on the con of all diet. Sorry, I don't do carbs. I do.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Do carbs. Oh, I shouldn't laugh though. those poor people. That's brutal time. And there were actually other sick Westerners. Like, I think Jeremiah Johnson, there was a movie made about Jeremiah Johnson. It paints him in a pretty favorable light. But he was actually a sadistic sociopath that liked eating people. He's like, well, I mean, hungry. He would, he would get arrested. They, he'd tell
Starting point is 00:18:49 somebody cut their leg off and run into the woods with it. What? There's a couple of stories about in the West. There is some cannibalism, like straight up people eating people, because they like eating people. I think it was quite common actually in like, not even ancient man, just like, like didn't it as text, do you think's like that? Mayans.
Starting point is 00:19:13 They definitely had some blood-letting practices and cut out people's hearts and stuff, but eating them, I can't recall. Okay. There's, but I wouldn't be surprised if like, more ancient cultures were throwing that in there. I mean, when survival is hard, then things can get normalized really quickly. I mean, probably in a generation.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Oh, yeah. Even made it in sooner. But did you know what Rockefeller was eating? A Rockefeller? Yeah, he was a ginger. He was eating. So he deserved it. But did you know what Rockefeller was eaten? A rocker fella? Yeah, he was a ginger. He was eaten, so he deserved it. No, he was in kind of on an adventure,
Starting point is 00:19:55 adventuring time of his life. This is like in the 30s, I believe. And he was his boat capsized in near Papa, New Guinea, near New Guinea. And those badass tribesmen were like, you know what? his boat capsized in near Papa New Guinea, near New Guinea. And those badass tribesmen were like, you know what, the white people have been kind of messing with us right now, let's eat one. And they were like, oh, there's one, something towards us.
Starting point is 00:20:15 And they picked them up in the boat, and they took them home, and they ate them. Whoa. And they kept it quiet, because I know that the guys would come after them and just kill everybody. But the story finally came out. Man, he was eaten. I forgot his name, but something Rockefeller. Well, those Rockefellas, they, they're wealthy.
Starting point is 00:20:39 I don't think I like the pop a New Giniens anymore after I heard about all the stuff they do to their kids. Oh, what's that? We covered we covered that at some point. Oh, we did. Talks about it. Though like, oh, the Gives tribes. Yeah. No, let's I can't even talk about that. Joe does bring that up quite often. I think because it's just so shocking. I mean, oh, what are you guys up to? Well, that's not Tony Sheridan. Taylor Sheridan, but it's not Taylor. But, you know, he's he's a historian. In a sense, I mean, you know, he could probably make a great show out of some of these stories for sure, super talented guy. He went over the wake
Starting point is 00:21:18 oh thing. Didn't he say his a couple of his uncles were like, um, sheriff or something that we know those boys, let's go down there and try to get them guns. They're the, yeah, them. And, you know, the FBI rolls in with like a tank with a flame throw on and just burns everybody to death. They were really cracking down on the cults back then, I would say. Yeah, the FBI was, they had a egg on their face from the Ruby Ridge incident.
Starting point is 00:21:47 And they were not gonna let that happen again. They were in a shoot first. I don't know, states rights, you know? Yeah, FBI man. I mean, after the recent like social media thing where they were like, conspiring with the current administration to put pressure on social media companies to downplay certain stories I'm just like what are you guys up to?
Starting point is 00:22:08 All right, this isn't this isn't the FBI from the ex files that I knew growing up No, they were good people looking for aliens The truth is out there and they're not even looking for it. They're not even it just They're trying to crack down on our sex cults Come on, that's the best part. Let's have a sex cult. Leave us alone. Here's a little bit of a mess. They're not hurt anybody. Not well, I guess that he was marrying some pretty young girls.
Starting point is 00:22:37 So yeah, that's not like you. So they need some laws in, oh, you just wanted to go over the vegan thing that they were talking about. The idea that, you know, that if you do it for dietary reasons, this is what Taylor was saying, then I respect that, he can. And I do too, if you want to do it because other types of food mess with your system,
Starting point is 00:22:59 and you're very sensitive to that, fine. If you want to do it because you think it's saving all the animals and the world, you know, I don't know. I feel like that's like the people that want to recycle plastic bottles and it turns out all we do is just ship them off the China and they dump them in the ocean. It's like we get them back in a couple years. Yeah, it sounds good, but is it really helping? So he knew a guy that owned what was it? An avocado plantation. Average avocado plantation is responsible for killing something around 19,000 ground nesting squirrels. That's a fun fact. I love those little squirrels. I'm wrong. 19,000. So basically, I looked this up and they weigh about 600 grams each.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Pretty small, little guys. Times 19,000. It was a lot. 11 million something grams. It basically turns out to a roughly 25,000 pounds of meat. Gee, whiz. Yeah. It's like, it's like 35 cows.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Okay, so that meat is wasted. No one's eating the ground-nesting squares. They're just getting chopped up. Chopped up. Basically sprayed all over the avocado plants, in a sense. Oh, that's why they're so tasty. I love those avocados Well, maybe they're not getting chopped up because I you don't really use like a combine harvest there for it must be like pest control shake the tree
Starting point is 00:24:34 Yeah, they must do it because they're actively killing them something's happening. Yeah But flooding the field or something. Mm-hmm. Yeah, the That whole vegan thing is just backwards. It's virtue signaling. I think a lot of it is. I mean, how many... It's like everyone that is a vegan, you know, about them being a vegan.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Oh, they'll tell you. Yeah, they'll tell you. That's what I'm saying. It's not like... I don't walk around talking about what I eat or don't eat most of the time. My hamburger guy, I just... All day hamburgers just chicken nuggets. Basically, that's it. But yeah, they there is a virtue signaling aspect and all I say is like, if you care that much, like look, look to check.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Like, don't you really want to imagine if you were big and did like your carbon footprint, like that was the hill you died on. That was the big thing, which is, you know, a globally responsible issue to take up. But then you also own the factory. And you're like, well, that's my job, that's different. But on my house, I recycle everything and we have solar panels.
Starting point is 00:25:42 And it's like, yeah, but you own this factory. You come and print is huge. Like put the pieces together. All you drive an hour and a half to get to work. It's like you can work from home, make less money. Like, if you really cared, stop flying on planes. Don't eat almonds. The almonds are the worst.
Starting point is 00:26:01 They take up so much water and they just, and they're growing them in California that has no water. So all those nut juices, bad for us. The bad for our environment. They're bad for us. Yeah, I have a friend that is real big on carbon tax, carbon footprint things. He's even worked for a company that that like monitors corporations ability to like buy carbon credits or something from other companies like they just make sure that it's all on the up and up. And you, he's like proud of his, I think he had like, what's those like shitty little hybrid cars that?
Starting point is 00:26:50 Oh, for years. For years, yeah, one of those when it was new and made a big point about it. Yet flies to France three times a year. When is he coming out? When is he out of the closet yet? It's like, you're flying to France three times a year. That's a lot of carbon, but it's just so easy for them to justify it.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Wow, I gotta go there. I've got family there and like that. You know, that's just blah, blah, blah. I don't know. The food is so nice over there. It is pretty good. It is pretty good. Let's finish up with with a few points that they were making
Starting point is 00:27:27 You know billionaire is paying more taxes That's always a thing that I think a lot of us You know like the idea of like pay your face share type of thing You know And it and it does Like it all makes sense, but then when you take someone like Elon or Bezos, their money's all tied up and stock. And then it's like, do they really have that 200 billion
Starting point is 00:27:52 or whatever it is? Or is it just in stock? They're not getting taxed on their income. Right. They're making the thing about all the people they employ that get taxed on their income. So they, in a a way are paying taxes. Yeah, I just wonder.
Starting point is 00:28:08 I feel like that's something artificial intelligence could just once we get one smart enough, we could just be like, all right, will this actually make a difference to our economy if we just took more of their taxes? And if we just run an algorithm and be like, oh, well, actually all the billionaires just started to get bankrupt and they were closing their companies and overall, that's a problem. Or maybe it does work. Or it just ends up with the government who's completely inefficient, just takes everybody's money and blows it all and fucks everything up while politicians get wealthy.
Starting point is 00:28:41 That's the, that's the, he, I think Taylor was saying that, or Joe was saying that he doesn't mind paying his fair share. But how many missiles is that gonna buy to bomb some poor brown kids? You know, our money's not going to where we want it to go. It's going to war essentially. Yeah, or it's going to the Pentagon that can't, you know, every time they get ordered it,
Starting point is 00:29:04 they're like a trillion dollar short or whatever it is. Sorry, we lost a few billion dollars. Yeah. And we're like, wait a second, what? And then we give them more. And they're not going to jail. If we even didn't pay like $3,000 on our taxes, we'd get in big trouble.
Starting point is 00:29:21 They'd like Joe said that come up and take you to the pen. They lock you up. And then they don't want the money. They want you. The last little bit I wanted to touch on, he was talking about taking Trump off the ballot, love him or hate him or whatever you feel about him, hasn't been convicted yet of the things he's being accused of yet they're already taking him off the ballot. And in some states, they're putting Biden as the only choice for it. Fucking communist China. It doesn't sound good, right?
Starting point is 00:29:54 Is that Russian style? I think anytime you start arresting or attempting to arrest your political rivals, that to me sounds like a shady country. And is that what is happening here? Sure sounds like it. Doesn't sound good. Doesn't sound good, dude, I'm worried about it. All right, let's, to finish up, the guy's cool. I like him.
Starting point is 00:30:19 I hope he comes back. I'm gonna watch 1883 for sure. I like how he, he said it's emotional, so I like that kind of stuff. Yeah, we gotta watch it. I'm gonna watch the rest of it. Um, here we go, Deborah. So, Dr. Deborah so, bless her.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Dr. Debbie. Yeah, start out by talking about, well, she basically left academia. She's seeing how wacky it's getting. When you write scientific papers now, you have to put like all your privileges in. That to me does sound problematic. I mean, they never used to do that in the past.
Starting point is 00:30:56 It was just whoever made the study, you'd put your names on them because you want to be published. And you know, you could make a guess of somebody's ethnicity or what country they're from, maybe based on the name. But now people are having to put in like a little bio of like who they are, you know, if they're white, all these different things. And it's almost so we can maybe look back on the research and then discredit it just because of who made the research. I don't really know what the motivation would be.
Starting point is 00:31:31 It is, it's a sign of, you know, it's important to have nowhere the money comes from, but that's about it. Who's funding this? That's a good point. That's actually more important. I don't think that Yes. That's a good point. That's actually more important. I don't think that research papers put who funded it on there, unless the company wants to be on there. Exactly. You know, or the individual.
Starting point is 00:31:53 That's more important than you grew up in a single parent household with $40,000 income and your wife. Like, that's, the data should speak for itself, regardless of the ethnicity or pronouns of the people who write this stuff. A hundred percent. It's silly. It's silly stuff. I'm glad that she's on Bourbon, that we need more really smart people to do this. Well, I think that's what's kind of happening is,
Starting point is 00:32:16 is a lot of good researchers and academics and smart people are moving away from these institutions, and it's going to create a system where they start doing their own research and doing it their way. And, you know, it's kind of like moving the line to where good information comes from. And for a while, it'll be a bit messy. That's why people do like to lean into these institutions because that's supposed to be where all the good information is. a while it'll be a bit messy. That's why people do like to lean into these institutions
Starting point is 00:32:45 because that's supposed to be where all the good information is like guide us, you all the small ones help us, but people are losing faith with it. And I think for a while that's okay too, even if it is a bit shaky because you got to shake some things up and it will make these institutions like accountable to how wacky they've got. Again, wacky. That's what I think. I didn't know she was Canadian. She's from Canada.
Starting point is 00:33:12 A. Yeah, we. Yeah. Yeah, big time. There we go. Canadian lady. They all, they were talking about Tesla robots. That sounded pretty dope.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Yeah, he's, he's, she'd be cheerful. Come on, Elon. No, he wants to get there before someone else does basically. It makes sense, but just imagine having like a pretty solid Boston Dynamics robot that, you know, that wouldn't have to do a ton. It could just like, Moe-Elon, fold laundry, do the laundry laundry unload the dishwasher
Starting point is 00:33:46 You make your cup of tea Maybe even like make some meals doesn't even have to be that complicated. I don't think that we'll be super far away from that I see the more like in a factory Like lifting boxes and doing complicated, heavy tasks that you can't just have a robot armwork and variable do. We're probably at first, but I mean, eventually they're going to work their way into the home. I'm sure. I know we're going with this sex robots.
Starting point is 00:34:17 They talked about sex robots for like 30 minutes. Well, there's going to be a whole new generation eventually when they have really good versions of those. And yeah, I don't think people will be dating them or even having relationships. I think most people would just have their in-house hot butt and, you know, just make do with it. And people often will say things like, oh, it'd never replace the emotional connection
Starting point is 00:34:47 and these different things. And of course, it won't. But if you grew up in a time when you're used to interacting, communicating, and possibly even having friends that are AI, avatars, then you've trained yourself to, again, normalize it. And we're good at normalizing things that, of course, our generation, people today wouldn't understand and we're never going to be totally sold by it because we were from a different time.
Starting point is 00:35:14 But if you were born into it, you'd be like, this person, this thing never lets me down. It always helps me out. It's always there. It's just better than the humans that I know that are more palables. Yeah. It's not having a it's not being selfish. It's not getting chunky. Okay, this is why I'd get one. That's what you need one. You know, well, those people in our generation that are alive right now, they would love sex or what? For sure. Yeah, just like.
Starting point is 00:35:51 So there's weirdos out there. They were all over. I guess I can't judge. I'm not judging. They're not weird. It's just like another form of masturbation, basically. Basically, yeah, it's like Joe said, where it's a a part of it's a step into the matrix one more step towards that Well, I think it is gonna start online. It's gonna be more like VR
Starting point is 00:36:12 porn really kind of advances and then it moves into the robotic type stuff It's like you have your online girlfriend Oh Three boobs. Nice. Whatever you want. I need a third hand for that one. Could have like a cow's worth of others. Okay, I was not for it. Now I'm getting back on for it. We're wrong, but we're investing. Is there a company? I'm into it.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Hmm. Well, she was a bit coy actually on this one. She's got like a new project she's working on. She didn't want to talk about it. She didn't want to bring up a few of the sex robot companies as well, because I guess she knows a few of them. What do you think was going on there? I think that part of her work
Starting point is 00:37:05 is probably on what she was talking about. She didn't want to mention any of the companies that make the robot. So I guess it was like maybe she didn't want to embarrass them or out them, but most likely that has to do with upcoming projects. I didn't know that she was on, what is the woman that, uh, Matt Walsh documentary film?
Starting point is 00:37:31 Yeah. I guess he wasn't. I watched it. I don't remember her being in it, actually, but I maybe wasn't paying that close attention. It's very interesting. It's, it's kind of wacky. I mean, especially because I'm halfway through school for therapy, mental health therapy, graduate school. So it'll
Starting point is 00:37:54 be a therapist by close to the end of this year, 2024. And they had a bunch of therapists on there, and like psychologists, and they were just saying wacky things, and not being able to define what a woman was. And it's, it's, it really is, it highlights something that many people think is not happening. They're like, oh, that's clearly not happening. That's just things that you saw on Instagram, but he made a movie showing that're like, oh, that's clearly not happening. That's just things that you saw on Instagram or, but he made a movie showing that like people are thinking this way in academia and in professional settings. And they're leaning into, you know, these different individuals, like basically identity crises that they're having, you know, as they try and figure out
Starting point is 00:38:44 how they feel and what they are. And it's kind of enabling them instead of helping them have a coping strategy for this. Or it's just like, oh, lean into that. Yeah, you feel weird. Maybe you're this. Good. What is a woman anyway? No one can define it. And it was, it was bonkers really they have all these terms new terms and they say them like their facts and Just and they double down like you were saying 200 degree that is like mind-boggling for me like you can't just make up a definition of something and with no
Starting point is 00:39:22 Body of science behind you and then run with that and then eventually shape people's bodies with like half-baked ideas. It's a I'm gonna watch that one. What is women? I'm gonna check that out. Yeah, I mean that you hit on the key point. It's like they doubled down. It's like if someone comes out of the weeds and has like a new even wacky idea, they're full on with it. And if anyone questions it, then they oust them immediately. Big it. Press vote. Yeah. All the things. And it's like, wait a minute. Are we sure this person is that
Starting point is 00:40:00 sure about what they're doing? I looked up, because I'm a Harry Potter fan, not a huge fan, but it's like, I like those books. No, come on. Back when I was 11, I was red the first one and I read them as soon as they came out until they're done. And I, and I, I happened to like JK Rowling, her writing. And I was like, what is she getting all this flack for?
Starting point is 00:40:25 And I looked up the things that she said. I was like, she must have said something really terrible. She didn't say anything to her. She said as much as like, oh, we should men and women are men and women. And we should probably not have men going into women's bathrooms. Just pretty normal stuff.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Bona for hell did dead. And she. And it's just like, I talked to somebody and they didn't even know why they hated her. I was like, have you ever like even seen what she said? And we looked it up together and it was like, oh, like that's some stuff that's pretty, pretty agreeable with, I can agree with that. Really? That's what it was. She's like, I've heard a bunch of people talk about how they don't like I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law.
Starting point is 00:41:05 I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law.
Starting point is 00:41:13 I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law. I've heard of Christian law, I've watched it. Oh, are you Lord of the Rings, man? Yeah, I like that. That's good. It's good. The movies are longer.
Starting point is 00:41:28 I just feel like I'm 42 now. What am I going to go back and watch? Like, you know, elementary school wizards in a show. It's like, it's not going to work for me now. I'm not going to get kind of hot towards the sixth one, seventh one, so. Yeah, but you started watching her when she was like seven. I was the same age as her.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Oh, right. Still, but for me, that wouldn't work. It would be like, oh, I'm not trying to. Siving her swayed you for just skip them, watch some and instructional. But either way, I mean, the fact that she can't have an opinion that is fairly rational and then gets massively demonized for it. It's like, hold the phone. And she's really thrown into that transphobic group.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Like, she's one of the first people that, you know, they call out. And it's like, she wasn't running around saying lock them up. No, she was saying I pray for them. I love them. But they're, they're, they need some help. That's not enough. And I'm not saying they need help, but they do, but I'm not trying to get into that. Well, everyone needs some help, don't they?
Starting point is 00:42:36 Oh, we definitely do. We need positive role models that have our best interests in mind and it doesn't seem like we have an ease of access to those people. Well, I'll tell you what, and I don't want to equate this to the same thing as like a different type of disorder in a sense. But I mean, if you have a behavior that you're seeking therapy for and therapy for and not necessarily even to change it, but just to understand it. Right. And and really the last thing you want from the therapist is to enable you to feel like a victim. That's a bad move. They, their, their job should be to empower you to make you feel stronger so you can cope, not blame others, or make it so that others have to accept you for the way that you are or how you behave.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Really, the cornerstone of good therapy is like putting the responsibility back on the individual. It's like, yes, you struggle with your family and they treat you a certain way and you can set boundaries, right? That's the empowering portion of it. It's not making them a victim but like empowering the individual. And then next, you really want to kind of follow up with, what is your responsibility in this?
Starting point is 00:44:01 How can you take responsibility for what's happening so that you can function better in society and therefore feel better about what's happening? But again, if you watch that, what is a wound show, those therapists don't seem to be doing that. They're not really doing it. It seems like they get some sort of satisfaction from the therapist. They seem to really be patting themselves on the back. Oh, yeah. Again, it's virtue, signaling stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Look who I protect, look who I care for, and there's so much kind of push behind it. And I think for a lot of people, it makes it more confusing. While they're already working through a very difficult situation. It's like muddy the water almost, instead of really just supporting people that are looking for some help or some guidance. And this is again, why people like Dr. Debra Soes move in a way for academia doing different things.
Starting point is 00:45:02 They don't want to be a part of this. They're seeing too much of this, like going off into the deep end nonsense. Let me get her book title. Look it up. Look it up. Yeah, it's... While you're doing that, let's discuss a little bit of
Starting point is 00:45:19 what the other was saying with the Instagram, the power of Instagram, 2.5 billion active users. That's a fucking third of the world using an app, dude. Yeah. We're that's part of this is the matrix. Like this is part of the slippery slip of getting into the hive. Mm-hmm. Her book is called The End of Gender, Debunking the Myths about Sex and Identity in our Society 2022. So maybe it's worth a read. Mm-hmm. The End of Gender. It's an interesting title. Yeah, so that's nuts with the that's so many people on on in and most of you India, I heard. India was the a lot of people in India Yeah, that makes sense that makes a lot of sense mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:46:11 Lot of people there's a wacky videos coming out of India Most love watching those reels. Oh, yeah, some of those are good mostly you between 18 and 29 Wow, I guess the younger kids are on tiktok. Yeah, that's that's really big. I mean that one is so basically We've got like tiktok and Instagram raising the next two generations is really kind of what's happening And it's gonna be interesting to see how that comes about. What does that mean? Homogenized society we're getting the same, same Z's over and over. Ultimate distractions. I don't know. Then they mentioned a little bit going back to Dr. Debra Vordup, you know, CNN trying
Starting point is 00:46:55 to shut down Rogan and call it misinformation. And then what CNN didn't realize is Joe was about 10 times bigger than them then and gained 2 million subscribers and ultimately since then Don Lemon got fired so did that. What's the other guy's name Stetser? He was a potato looking idiot. Yeah, I never lost CNN. He was fucked done. Well, look, this is how crazy this is, right? So Joe's show is ginormous. This show that we're on now, where we review
Starting point is 00:47:35 Joe's show, is often bigger than many CNN shows and all podcasts. They are so outnumbered now that it's just ridiculous. And why you ask, is it because Joe's just so much more entertaining? No, I say it's because he's way more trusted. People trust him way more. For all of the wacky, fun things that he says, you know he's not lying to you. You know he's not trying to trick you. And I don't think anyone believes that from CNN. It's like they're supposed to be reporters trusted reporters. It's like get out of here. Actors and they're paid by pharmaceutical companies. Yeah, Pfizer.
Starting point is 00:48:15 100% and Joe's got no dog in this fight. He's you can kind of just tell when he's talking to anybody that he's just like, oh, I got a question about this. Even if he knows stuff. He's paid by athletic greens and express VPN. I mean, and they're not exactly putting pressure on his show. He's like, yeah, drink more nutritious stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And when you're googling shit on the internet, make sure the government can't track you. That's fucking good advice. And they pay him a lot of money. He's a, he's a, a national treasure. He's an actual treasure at this point. He keeps, he just keeps bringing people on that we need to hear. When the COVID, what stuff was happening, that's when I got into Joe. He was like, well, he blew up massively that too. I mean, yeah, he a lot of people were jumping on board and listening, those that hadn't,
Starting point is 00:49:08 I mean, his numbers just went through the roof. He was a ginormous huge show before that. But after that, it was unstoppable. And yeah, I love it. And his work on fear factor. No. Oh, that's a good stuff. Yeah, you know, if you have Pluto, the TV app that you get on like Roku and the Smart TVs, it's
Starting point is 00:49:29 basically like a free cable and it has like the cops channel. So you just watch cops 24 hours a day and it just has all these like basically, yeah, it just has like, I don't want to say junky TV, but it just has a lot of that kind of good stuff on there. There's a fear factor channel. All it does all day, 24 hours plays fear factor. I've actually not watched a lot of fear factor, believe it or not. I just didn't have it.
Starting point is 00:49:55 But just the fact that that exists, I mean, Joe's getting some checks in the mail. He's getting some residuals. Yeah, 24 hour paychecks, not bad. All right, well, that's enough about that. Good week of pods. Thanks for joining, as always, Pete. We appreciate you all for listening and not watching CNN. Well done, everybody.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Keep it up. And until next week, later. See ya. It is. See ya!

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