Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 372 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Bret Weinstein Et al.

Episode Date: February 21, 2024

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Hey guys and welcome to another episode of the Joe Rogan Experience Review. Here we review the Joe Rogan Experience. I hope to make that clear in the name, but sometimes even I forget what we're doing. Join as always by my co-host Pete. How you doing, bud? Hey, I'm doing pretty good. How are you doing? Good, man.

Good. Yeah. We will catch it up on our conspiracy theories and the like. Yeah. There's a lot of them. Dude, you know, you got to rehash him. Make sure you're on the right track Exactly otherwise you start seeing some chemtrails and you're like wait a minute

And then you know it it takes it takes someone to talk you off the ledge Like yeah, no dude. That's nonsense. You're like, oh, yeah shit Sometimes it's just fun to believe in a thing though, for a minute, even if it's insane. The truth's out there. So we got Brett Weinstein this week, Will Stahl, and then Chris Williamson, all right? All legends in their own regard.

There was a comedian on this week. We're gonna skip him only because when we got a like, kind of topic heavy week, you know, you gotta work through that a little bit. So... He's good, but he's, there's been pretty important information being discussed on a couple of these podcasts here. I think so.

What do you feel of Brett? Because from my friend group, mixed feelings. I mean, look, everyone agrees nerd. I think he would too. And proud, proudly be a nerd. You know, when you're that smart nerd. Okay. Good.

I guess my opinion is like, he's just kind of, um, good at analyzing data and he's got interests that he picks and he analyzes the fuck out of them. Yeah. He breaks it down for a couple of, couple of, couple of knuckleheads like us. It helps. It helps. Yeah, smart guy, dude. And, you know, he's not afraid to back away from a fight.

And so what's important about that is you take a smart guy that isn't going to be pressured by, you know, whatever social norms or whatever society is leaning towards. And he's like, hey, let's just analyze this for what it is, you know? I don't believe that he wants these fights, you know? There might be a part of him that likes a bit of a, bit of a intellectual, you know, controversial debate. He might push some people.

He might maybe play some devil's advocate here and there just to kind of see what people are about. But I don't think that he's looking for the fight. He just, when society leans that way, he's like, hey, hey, I'm willing to put it all on the line to stop this. And he did that at the university that he worked for. Well, do you remember which one that was? Yeah, green. Fuck. Let me look it up.

Evergreen State University. that's what it was. So, and they talked about, evolutionary theorist. That's it. That sounds smart as heck to me. You said he's a smart dude, people. Evergreen is notoriously liberal in Washington. Yeah. And you know, I think for a long time,

they had like a real, there's a reason he worked there because it was like open to new ways of teaching and, and you know, things that went against the norm of regular universities. It was like, hey, learn how you want to set your degree up, how you want to. Exactly. But then they went off the rails.

So his his take on the border he went down there. He didn't he's been doing some he's new to me. Well you've got like I think that's the thing is like when it comes to the border stuff you gotta see it yourself Elon went down to see it. You know, people, people think that it's like so politicized that one size just says it's out of control. And then the other side says it's fine. Right. What do you pay? What do you pay attention to that for? Well, it's the only news we get, right? That's what they say. Yeah. But you know, when, when Biden now has to put like emergency controls in to stop stuff, and then the, um, is it the governor of Texas is like, Abbott, yeah, he's like fuck all this, we're building a wall,

we're gonna take a wall. I mean, uh, something's happening. There were a wall. I mean Something's happening Yeah, it's become politicized. So I think People are having to take a stand also It's true that there has been a huge wave of people coming up from that border Most are not even from Mexico. Yeah, a lot of them. Does that mean that you dislike immigrants? I like one at least. Me, I am one.

Does it mean you dislike them because you're like, hey, we need some control here? Like you always need some controls everywhere. There's no, I think for me it's like, remember those two years we wore masks because we were about the transmission of diseases? Well the easiest way to get crazy weird diseases is just have a just a swing and door down there or people from all the whole world can come over with. Who knows what kind of pathogens they are bringing in.

Right. Let's put a mask on our southern border. Yeah. I mean that is one way of looking at it. Maybe our top one too Right, Canada, just block em On one end we got pathogens, the other end we have like ideologies Mind pathogens I know, could be worse

Yeah, what was your thoughts on how the Twitter files haven't really been talked about by the media? Now, do you look into the Twitter files much or do you know much about what went on there? You know, I've only known as much as Matt Taiibie has exposed and I know about the shadow banning and a bit of that stuff, but they have fallen out of the public eye right now. Well, I mean, it was a big thing that Brett talked about. It was like, this is a very important document. It should be talked about a lot. And I think because it was pro the media that exists,

that there was no pushback, but guaranteed if it wasn't, if it just happened to be like right-leaning, our media would be, it would be the most talked about thing we could imagine. And that makes you question like, okay, so as long as people are agreeing with, you know, as long as the media is agreeing with what's happening, they're not going to talk about

it. It doesn't become news. And in fact, they will downplay it. Even if ultimately it goes against things that they feel are important, which is like freedom of speech for themselves. Yeah, they've formerly been on the side of that, but now they're trying to obfuscate that seems like formally, formally, formally left-leaning people have been anti-government for freedom of speech.

And now it seems like they have turned into the mouthpiece of the left government. I think they covered a bit of that in this podcast. Yeah, yeah they did. And you know, in the same way it's like, take politicians today and we wonder like is anyone in their ear giving them the truth and then Brett kind of called it back to the time of the jester in ancient courts. And who knows how many kings had jesters and what the deal was there. Maybe it was just a story. Maybe there were a few. But like nobody's really telling the king the truth.

Everyone's kissing his ass. He has too much power So for a king to a poor, you know a point a jester That will make jokes at his expense and others, but mostly is like awkwardly speaking the truth Right and can't be killed right that's like an agreement. We just I'm pretty sure there were some gestures that were killed agreement would just allow. I'm pretty sure there were some gestures that were killed. Guaranteed. It was definitely a thing. Well, they had them.

Like any comedian, you've got to be more funny than you are offensive. That's the rule. And I think that goes with gestures too. You have to do that. It's a good way for the whole population's zeitgeist to be funneled into one person, and then he can tell the king, hey, you know, with a joke and a wink and a fart, that the population is starving right now. A little bit of juggling.

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you get an exclusive 10% off your first month. Just head to betterhelp.com slash JRER. That's B E T T E R H E L P dot com slash J R E R. Start your journey today for a better you. That's that's that's We need more of those and the public the media should do that more poke fun at it Right, that's what memes are right memes are the gesture. Well, you know what's interesting is like European media always had like a very funny satirical comic section that like picked on politics and it would wreck Like the politicians that were in place with like one it was like the original memes Yeah, and it's important to have that. You know, this is why the loss of the onion is a big problem

The onion magazine yeah, because it picked on politicians, you know, it was no holds barred, it went in any direction. And it was just silly satire. And it's like sometimes you need to just have people make fun of you so you can check yourself before you wreck yourself. I think the late night hosts have wrecked themselves because they forgot to check themselves. I mean, that's what the late night hosts are supposed to be as well, but they've gone a bit silly.

Yeah. They've gone a bit silly. It's just so boring to just know that they're totally bought and paid for. Let's just have a fun time out there. Colbert used to be so cool, dude. The Colbert report was amazing. He was so good on that.

And then he just went, he went to like, it's almost like every night he just analyzes viewership and is like, how can I change my message so that more people are happy? Or like more perceived people are happy? It's a mess. I think with the Colbert report, he found that sometimes he was more right,

I mean, more accurate with his satire than he was comfortable with. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Whoops. Some of that sounds true and practical. No doubt. What did you think about Elon blocking Brett? That was an interesting thing. That kind of blew my mind.

Yeah. I wonder what. I mean, even Joe was shocked by that. He was like, wait a second. Right. He was trying to make sense of it, wasn't he? Yeah. But also, Elon's Elon, dude. It's like, he only has so much time.

And is it possible that he's just like, hey, you're asking me questions I don't need to be answering right now. And maybe Brett, like bless him, got ahead of himself and was messaging too much directly. You know, he said it was only a couple of times and I believe it can be true. But also if Elon's getting, you know, 250 messages a day, then that's a lot to get back to. He could have forgot who he was. He could have been security issue. Oh, this guy's account

is compromised. So I guess I better just block him. Or he thought he was getting messages from that account that was captured. No doubt. Yeah, no doubt. That's kind of what I was thinking about. I mean, my feel is, if you got these two together, they'd have a great conversation.

And that might actually be a really good Rogan. He's like, Rogan just getting the five smartest people he knows You know fucking Elon Brett Jordan Peterson, I mean There's Alex Berenson like there's a bunch of them get them all together and like see what kind of you know Protect our parks type episode, but like serious.

Just getting real drunk. Get him drunk. Get him stoned. We've talked about it before. Rogen's good at bringing people together. Even the pop bus, scientists, theologians, he brings them together. That's what it, into his face, and that's a gift.

Oh yeah, no doubt. No doubt, that could be fascinating. Okay, let's jump into the COVID stuff, right? A lot of mistakes made, we all know this. A lot of bullshit out there. The WHO are trying to pull a bunch of power in for like the next big You know pandemic which is terrifying honestly, right? They suck that at the first time

Yeah disease X is on its way and then you got Fauci who by all accounts probably will be the guy again Right, so what is your take on this easy T-drug that he released for AIDS in the 80s, which sounds like a fucking disaster? What was it his quote was like, the cost and the benefits outweigh the detriments sort of thing? It sounds like, okay, there's an,

I don't know, is this another conspiracy theory? Where AIDS isn't from HIV? People will think so, yeah. It sounds like okay, there's an I don't know is this another conspiracy theory where People people will think so yeah, I mean I I don't get I don't I actually kind of comprehend how AIDS or HIV doesn't go to AIDS Without this drug or something Yeah, I don't really get it was the power is hazy for me But it sounds like it was another thing drug pushed through too fast and like the COVID vaccine, it was less than effective and maybe did more harm than good. I think that was the key.

Yeah, that they were like okay with that. So they needed a solution. They found a one that worked poorly, but it was there and they pushed it. Right. Yeah. Yeah, dude. I don't know what to think.

Just get clear of intravenous drugs, everybody. No needles, all right? No needles. Don't take drugs. Yeah, but if you are told that you have AIDS and it's gonna kill you right away, and then some Person like Fauci is like this is the drug that will cure you

Like you we want to look to professionals To help us we have to I need to we all do yeah, you can't figure it out on your own It's too much Too much dude but when the love of money comes into play, we're just ways of them making their money sometimes. Well, but this goes back to the RNA push, like the RNA vaccine shit.

So it couldn't get passed. It was too dangerous. There were too many restrictions. So they needed basically like an emergency use authorization. And COVID was that. It opens up companies like Pfizer and others to using these RNA vaccines. And the only way they could do it is by saying something like no other medicine

was useful. I've remeft it seems useful but they had to downplay it, they had to horse worm it. So we know CNN is bought. Like that's really the biggest thing because when they came after Rogan and were like, oh, that's horse, they won't, it's like, maybe there was someone there just trying to be funny and they completely missed the mark on it and it was a disaster or somebody was telling them, you need to stop this now because we need to pass this.

Like, so the, what was it? The, the emergency use authorization. If there was another drug that was useful, any other effective drug, you can't put it in emergency. Yep. Okay. And that one was cheap. It sucks. Could have helped people. We could have got that out right away plus nutrition information like take vitamin D, you know

supplement Lose some weight maybe exercise get some sunlight. Yeah knock not even if they were like nationally Hey, everyone lose 10 pounds. Here's how to do it like nationally, hey everyone lose 10 pounds. Here's how to do it. If you drink soda, stop. If you eat bread, eat half as much bread. Do this because this is a big deal. Yeah. So many lives. Plus his overmectin, this cheapest fuck. And it has antiviral properties. It's one of the most prescribed drugs in the world. Oh yeah, there's a ton of research. Ton of research.

It's prescribed in India. Uh-huh. Use the heck out of that stuff. But it would have empowered individuals so much to have that information. It would have empowered us to believe that we can take care of ourselves instead of the government could take care of us.

It's another step in their shift towards control, which Brett was talking about on this pod. He's, the powers that be are trying to control you and all his evidence says so. And he's one of those guys that puts it together and paints a bigger picture. Yeah, not everyone likes him, man. There's like people that,

that because he asked those questions and he pushes against this like narrative that people really wanted to believe in, they just wanna dismiss him. They wanna be like, ah, he kind of fell off the boat. There's like a boat of like, you know, political thinking, COVID thinking,

that it was sailing along, and a few people just decided, I don't wanna be a part of this. And it's like bad if you jumped off it. They want to discredit you for that reason and that's not the reason. That boat was heading right towards the rocks and only a few people saw it. But the thing is people are still on that boat slowly going towards the rocks, not realizing that ultimately their thinking will lead them, I don't know, down a bad road, dude.

Where do we get our information from and who benefits from us believing in it? We have to think about these things, learn a practical skill, get ready for the downfall of our site. That's a takeaway. Yeah. I don't take away. Yeah, I don't, I don't think that the way I think anyone profits off it.

And oh, I'm like, well, well, you mean like Pfizer does and Fauci does. No, they don't profit off the way I think, because I don't, I don't agree with them. So if you find yourself agreeing with them, you realize, oh, wait, also these institutions are profiting off me by agreeing. Basically, I work for them for free

by continuing my narrative, which is, if you're agreeing with them and you believe in them, you're helping them make money. So good for you, but also maybe like think about who you're making money for. Well, we need to make money for ourselves, protect our families, and maybe even protect our families from the government.

Maybe. My son, my son are too crazy out here. I still like my uncle. No, the last thing is, you know, they hid on Biden, where he's at, who's gonna be running for president? Are they planning on him running and then, you know, Kamala taking over? My guess is Newsom and Michelle Obama.

Really? I don't think Michelle's coming out. I think she could be. I think Newsom for sure, and that's a problem in itself. Oh gosh. He's the worst, dude. I lived in California under him. I saw what he did with COVID, it's a struggle.

Now you can say, and this is always the pushback, what could someone else have done? Well, they could have done better than that. I'm pretty convinced. No, legalizing theft, putting running business out of existence, that's the future for our country. I know, I know. It's nuts, dude.

Anyway, Brett always, as always, legend, great to have on, I like listening to him. He's one of those guys that it's important to listen to because he puts things together for us. Even if you don't agree with him all the way, like you can't say with him all the way, like you can't say that he's a dummy. It's impossible.

No. No, like it. He went from working at one of the most liberal establishments to the in our schools. And now he's just being the middle of the road guy, thinking evidence and putting it together. 100%. Yeah, 100%.

All right, let's jump over to Will Stor. All right. So Will's an interesting guy. He writes a book that basically talks about like status and what status is. You know, it's easy to ignore our need for that these days, but it exists like status. Yeah, I mean, so much of the way that our idea of who we should be is narrated these days.

It's like, oh, we should give away all our drives and desires that evolution has given us for, you know, there is a part of us, it's who we are, it's how we exist, you know, social hierarchy dominance. A blank. Yes. And we wanna separate ourselves from animals. We're not in the zoo, I get it, but we still have these drives.

We're still gonna be unfulfilled if these drives aren't met because this is how, you know, our DNA has got us here. And the worst part is they, you know, the idea is that we should be beyond that now. And it's like, can we even be? I think we deny it, we give it more power than it should have. And then it comes out in weird ways

that you might, that might be a damaging to us. Right. So we have to, we have to know about these desires. Well, people want to join. Where's good, where's bad? People want to join social groups. Totally. They have to.

They have to, we have to. And if we don't. Go on. We might go the wrong way and join ones online or have a whole that's, we get, we other ourselves even, we stand outside these social groups looking in and we get cranky about it. Yes.

One thing that Will brought up that I really liked is the truth is not a baseline desire. Think about that. So the truth isn't, but what society wants us to believe is a baseline desire. So we look around, we see what other people are thinking and what they're really going towards.

And then we join that group and that keeps us safe. And you're saying that truth doesn't, that doesn't mean it's true? No, not necessarily. I mean, you know, the truth is only, you know, acceptable to be spoken when it's, when it's accepted by the society or group you're in. Otherwise you quickly become an outsider. You know? So truth is relative to people's desires. Well, of course. So let's say you figured out that like Galileo,

that the earth goes around the sun, not the other way around. And you measured it, you learned it, you have this information, but now, yeah, you know it to be true based on math or at least closer than most people. And then you come out and say it, and it doesn't fit with the narrative that is being spoken.

You're a heretic, dude. They're gonna burn you. They didn't burn you. They didn't, but he was on house arrest for the, I think the rest of his life or something like that. The Catholic church has their truth. And they are what like might be a cult, right? Or that's the original church and then the others are cults.

Yeah, but I mean, it could be the same as like now. It could be the same as now, like trying to speak what is the truth. And I'm not saying that we know what it is, but like, some people that are much smarter than us that often go on Rogan will know things to be true, speak them and be shamed for it. Like the Graham Hancock guy or John Peterson.

Randall Carlson. They have their truths in archaeological timelines, at least these things they know to be true, but then they are tackled for it by the other people who have their truth. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, I'm getting it. I'm their truth. Yeah, yeah. Okay, I'm getting it. There we go. Well, Will also did, looked into some things and he was like, looked at some studies of millionaires and billionaires

and asked them how much more money they'd need to have to be happy. And the overwhelming answer was two to three times as much. That's silly. Now, what is it about us that needs to do that? I guess their former benchmarks didn't make them happy. So they think adding some more will make them happy. Yeah.

I mean, very few people, I mean, including Rogan and us and everyone, everyone that I've ever met will never say, hey, I have enough money. I'm just gonna stop. Never see them. This is quicker here. Yeah. It's like, you find a way to make some, you're gonna keep making it.

I mean, you know, there will be things in there that you will decide they're like, all right, I'm not doing this. If an avenue opened up and they're like, hey, you want to get in the sex traffic king, you can make this much. I mean, plenty of people will be like, no, that's not going to work for me. All right, that's fucked up compromise compromise of their happiness Hey, yeah, of course, but nobody stops Nobody ever makes an amount of money and then stops Maybe as akin to like the retirement

Thing where if you retire you you basically are done. Yeah, but that's only because Mostly that's forced on people. Like if you're still able to make it and it's not too much of a stress on yourself, you're gonna do it. I mean, would there be a amount of money? How much money? For me?

Maybe just stop. Oh, I mean, if I could retire and just have money accruing, those guys, I think it has something to do with me stopping working. I don't wanna stop working. Exactly, that's the thing. So if I had a million dollars more, I'd be happy. David, do you think you would be?

Or would you find like a new thing to work on? And I would, I would try to maybe it's a hard question for me because I'm bad with money. Well, that maybe it's a good question. Can't be trusted with it. I'm buying jet skis for everybody. Okay? I like it you get a jet ski you get a jet ski you're the Oprah of jet skis But you're gonna need a mullet for that Yeah, I'm all day. Why I'm almost there. I'm halfway there half. Yeah, that's what you need Well, but you know the the thing he gets back to is status, right?

And it's like once you've Achieve the certain status or like even if you haven't you just like start to understand what it is if it drops suddenly It leads to like suicide or thoughts Interesting I know Japanese definitely have that ingrained in their culture big time. It's called face. All societies have it. We have to save face, preserve face. We can lose face. Right. And when they lose face back in the old days, they would do the old, yeah. Yeah. Sepak. Sepak who? And that was ultimate face loss. So it's important to us, we're just monkeys.

It is. It's built in and to deny that it is there kind of makes sense. Like I'm on board with what he's saying, you know? It's like something to think about at least. It's like, hey, if you don't feel good, have you noticed that you're doing things that are like lowering your status?

Not to say we need to be holding status as the primary drive in our lives, but like keep an eye on it, you know? Yeah. Don't burn all the bridges real quick at any point, unless you are strong enough to make that kind of stand, which there is heroism in that too. You know, we saw that with COVID, you know, people did it and they were like, Hey, I'm

not going to go down with this. I'm willing to lose some status and like hold my shit together, but it's a fucking risky move. Risky move, dude. We want to get kicked out. That's why being a hermit might be sort of attractive. You just take yourself out of that cycle completely. Yeah, yeah, 100%. You know, I liked Will.

I'd like to see him back on. I want to check out some of his books for sure. He's got a lot. He's got, he's good. All right, let's jump over to Chris. Good old Chris. All right, so Chris has been making the rounds in the podcast world.

Handsome guy. Two handsome. Two handsome for me. Two handsome for me. Yeah, not for me. Well, maybe that's better than he stays in podcasting. You don't have to think about it. He films all of them. They're YouTubes. Well, when you're that handsome, you can.

He's good. He's over, okay. Being a handsome aside, he's not a membo. This guy's got it together. He's a smart guy. Right. Right. Yeah. He's had on some of my most looked up to people

on his podcast, in fact. Yeah, and now he's living in Texas. That's the England of the United States, I always say. He made the move. He's made the move. Yeah. He was talking about a new weapon rocket that is just a type of rocket that doesn't explode. It just is laser guided and just fires out these blades

that basically chops you to pieces. It can go through a car. It can like hit you in your apartment and the blades come out and they just slice you to pieces at like Massive speeds What are we talking about with weapons of the future Pete? So that one Okay, what do we want we want to pop we don't want to blow up the whole building or do we want to just do actually good point shots? It sounds gruesome, but maybe it's not as barbaric as we think. So now we're blowing up, we're not weird. Let's take the terrible thing that's happening over in Gaza. There are the precision rockets now blow up up a whole floor or a room,

this could blow up one person. What, just rip him up? That's what we wanna do, yeah. We wanna, not we, I don't have no money invested in this. Or I think war is bad, but more precise is more better, right? Dude, imagine being a gangster and you're in a meeting and you're just like, you know, making a deal

like you did back in the day. Maybe you've been in this business for 20 years and then something fly, yeah, you're like, hey, what the heck are we gonna do it? Gamma-goo. And then a rocket flies through the wall, everyone's fine. You don't even drop your martini. And somebody in front of you is liquefied.

Where do you go from that? Do you change your life? Do you retire? Do you say, Hey, I'm out of the game. That was made by two. I made my 2.3 times my previous bar money amount and I quit. I retire. I mean, maybe these. I don't know. I mean, maybe these are good weapons to have. They sound brutal.

Let's just skip new weapons, you know? Like, it's just kind of a piece of love. Can we promote, you know? We gotta cover the issues, bro. We don't get to skip it. We don't get- Okay, my favorite weapon is the Fleshettes, the little bladed darts that explode overhead

and just rain down shrapnel. Oh, is that like ninja weapons? They're, the ninjas had them, but we put it in a rocket. Oh yeah. Okay. Yeah, Flesh put it in a rocket. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Plus shits. There we go.

What do they call that type of explosion? Messy. Yeah, not the soccer player. Not even close. He's a precision kill machine. What do you mean, what kind of game? No, I think they have a name. That when they're like a bomb goes off

and then explodes into more bombs. Oh, micro ordinance or? Yeah, something. I don't know about that. I'll have to place some modern warfare and get back to you on that one. Yeah, well, Chris talks about things like jobs when you get a pay rise.

And this is often how it is for all of us. Like they give you a pay rise, but it's not just like, oh, you have more money. They do it at a cost. So they're like, right. So I'm talking to you, Pete, and I say, hey. You talking to me I want to give you a pay rise. I want to promote you

to regional district whatever farts You made the right choice also You have an extra hour commute Each way you got to go way out there dude got Gotta go way to the other side of the whatever. And you got 10 more people under you. Are the pay rises at certain levels of jobs

even worth it for most people? It's like the drive is always money, right? It's like somebody gives you more money, you're gonna take it. And then I guess this goes back to status, which is what Will was talking about. It's like, yeah, you kind of want that too. But now you have three hours less a day

to be with your family. And on top of that, who knows the levels of stress? Yeah, it's not worth it for me. There's been many instances where I've got a raise and just quit as well. Because I find the thanks for the raise, I quit. It's because I'm not looking for money. I'm looking for validation in my job.

Like I identify with my work. I'd like to, I am blank when I'm working somewhere. So the money is, I need it, but it won't keep me. Satisfaction keeps me. Right. And that's the key. That's the key, I think. It's like this whole idea that like, Hey, do what you love. Do what you would do for free. And who would do their job for

free? I mean, Joe talks about on this podcast, he says, Chappelle would just show up to comedy clubs and do a set for nothing. He loves it so much. just wants to do a set. So what is he really doing it for? He's doing it for the reward from the audience. The fact that he gets paid for it is a bonus. Now, can everyone do that type of job? Can everyone be in that place?

I mean, I don't know. I think that there is a possibility for that, to where you get to go to work and enjoy your work. And that should be the first sign that, that, you know, something is off. If you go and you hate your job, it's something to think about. We only have 60 good years, 70, 80, maybe.

So why spend that much time on your life not liking part of your life? It's cruel reality of our world that we have to do stuff that we don't wanna do while we're alive. We only have this one go. Right, yeah. Yeah, and it's a hard question. I remember listening to Rogan years and years ago and he had somebody on and it was a female comedian that was talking about just like how difficult

their life was, etc. And Joe said during the podcast, if you're working in a cubicle right now and you hate it, and you can't afford it, and maybe you can't like think about it, get out of there, do something else that you want to do. And I was close to that then. And I was just like, it really resonated with me. And I was like, you know what?

Fuck this dumb job. Like, you know, I was in a place the way it would have hurt me financially. But I guess I didn't have like a ton of responsibilities, but it was still a risk. And I just went, I'm going in another direction. I don't want to do this. It doesn't feel right.

I feel like I will be here forever, especially because the job itself was like, hey man, do this for 10 years and blah, blah, blah. But all the people I was talking to there that did that, that was so depressing to talk to. I'm like, ugh. You're trying to sell me on your path? Please God no. Yeah, I got out of my government job quick. It sounds like you're talking about a government job. I'm not positive, but mine was, and those guys were like just milking it until they

could retire, and they were the worst. The worst, dude. and they weren't happy. They never liked anything. They did they also do anything useful to be honest The job ruined them we can get ruined by our misery Yeah, and to be brave enough to just be like hey What would it take to do the thing that we like the most? How much effort do we have to put in? If we didn't have to spend any time in high school or at least college, right? When we've got more freedom, we're younger

and we're just given the opportunity to be like, what do you enjoy doing? Follow that. Like, is this a hopeful message? We should probably just give her a secondary school. Is it a hopeful message or is it a dangerous message? Good question. It could work for some.

You know, it could work for some that are a little more adventurous, a little more, maybe stronger in their ability to survive because it's about survival. are maybe stronger in their ability to survive because it's about survival. If you can live on what you've, what you catch in the forest, what will bring you in out of the forest? What will-

Yeah, I feel like it's a move for anybody though. Like even if you're introverted, even if you're not as brave, like you know what you like to do, you know what you could be good at, you could go and do those things. Are you gonna go back to hooking? Wow, maybe, it's time.

Did you just wink at me? Hey, at my age though, it's like, ah, you get tired. A bit of a, if you give a discount, probably. Can't stay up as late on those Las Vegas streets. Your short, short stride just up your ass a little too much. But I think that's the thing, right? I mean, back to that, like you, those billionaires that wanna double their income, to be happy, they think they have to do that.

It's like enjoy the journey, which is much harder said than done. But it's something worth repeating, even to ourselves. Like at any point when you're like trying to work to a place, like enjoy your time as you go there. You're allowed to do that. You know, you are. It depends what the enjoyment means. If it means that like you're just going to party the whole time and drink and then it's ultimately going to jeopardize where you're going to go. Yeah, probably that's an issue. However, if you're gonna go, yeah, probably that's an issue. However, if you're just like, well, I want to be happy during this time.

So I'm only gonna put so much work in and then I'm going to just feel good about the rest of my day. You'd be surprised how far you can get. Well, the love of money, once again, can ruin a life. Just love the journey, I think, was what you're saying. It 100%. The last thing they got to is like the power of AI.

So a dude wrote a book, and it's a book that would have taken him three years to gain all of the statistical information for the book, but he did it in 30 days. Okay, that's significantly shorter. So three years is like over a thousand days. He did it in 30. So it's like a tenth of that time. And he found out that some really interesting information about what it takes in that expertise, which is for the NBA, for every inch you are over your current height, or like a current height,

like six one to six two beyond, you have twice the chance of getting in the NBA. Nice. Yeah, dude. And it goes up infinitely. Like you just twice the chance. So imagine applying this like AI calculation to so much of the things out there that people wanna get good at or understand.

And it can just do all of the thinking for us. And then Sam Altman that runs chat GPT is looking to raise like something nuts like $7 trillion into AI. Dude, so much money. But he's like, this is where we should put all our money. It will potentially solve all our problems. Now this NBA book is a small example,

but maybe people could be like, well, yeah, of course, if you're taller, you're better at the NBA. However, it could be the path to like solving a lot of the issues that we are faced with all the time. Yeah, there's not just doom and gloom surrounding AI. It could make the world a safer, better place and more successful. Yeah, for sure. Well, I mean, I hope so. It seems like it could.

We just got to input the right information and be like, Hey, what's the best way to do this? What's the best way to solve this problem? Right. And then everyone kind of steps back. We can vote on it afterwards, you know? But like we gotta understand that there's potentially a system in place that is bipartisan

and is just looking to solve the problem. And if we start believing in that, that could be really useful. I agree with that one. And then also what is the, you just mentioned it a little bit by partisanship, who's programming it? That's a problem. And then, and now they're they're controlling what you can enter and ask it, right? So you've, yeah, seems like they've already kind of dumbed it down a little bit for common users like you and I. Well,

but there's not just one AI. That's the nice thing. Elon's making one. Different countries are like, maybe there's a way to eventually get to one that is, you know, pro all countries, pro all people, and just start spitting out some answers that are useful for everybody. That's my hope.

Some diplomatic tactics, some economic world forum tactics. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. But either way, exciting times. Good week of pods, good week of conversations. Thank you Pete, as always, for joining me. Thank you Adam. We will talk to you guys next week ladies