Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 375 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Kevin James Et al.

Episode Date: March 14, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:25 Might need to be the worst podcast or the best one of all time. One, go. Enjoy the show. Hey guys and welcome to another episode of the JRE review. We're gonna be doing some reviewing of Joe Rogan's show this week. Who did he have on? Christopher Ruffo? Was it Ruffo? Ruffo? Zack Schneider. And then the hilarious Kevin James.
Starting point is 00:00:54 What a sweetheart. I didn't realize. Yeah, it was a great lineup. I didn't realize Zack Schneider made so many of those movies, but it's interesting. Like, of course you should notice. Like they have so many similar themes. You'd be like, Oh yeah, they are pretty similar.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Uh, before we start though, I think we need to just discuss something that has come out. So recently Josh Dubin was on the show with, um, Rogan, you know, as he comes on like every quarter, representing the Innocence Project, a wonderful organization and project. And he brought on a gentleman called Sheldon Johnson. And Sheldon was slightly different than other guests that Josh usually brings on as Sheldon did go to jail for a crime that he had committed, and he was also into kind of bad criminal behavior before,
Starting point is 00:01:50 though he did get like a very long sentence for it, right? Was it that the judge kind of was a bit racist and dismissed him? Way over the top. Right. Right over the top, and all the flimsy evidence. Right, but he had been up to, it wasn't like he was
Starting point is 00:02:06 purely innocent and then just got kind of framed for it basically like other guests that Josh brings on. But you know, he was just making the point that the he's doing better inside and that maybe reform works. And I mean, I think that was kind of an over the top sentence that it was on flimsy evidence And it was it was so it was way over the top, right? I guess simple assault turned into 25 years that yeah, that's right. That's right And you know and that's important to highlight because it's like that's ridiculous. That's not what the legal system smacking somebody on the head a hundred percent
Starting point is 00:02:42 however unfortunately in the month since that, and this gentleman has only been out of jail, I think nine months at the time of the recording of that episode, so it's about, I don't know, about a year now he's been out, recently arrested for having somebody's severed head in a freezer, I believe.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Was it a freezer? Yeah, human remains. Ill God, I don't think he's allowed to have that. You're not allowed to. As a felon. You're not allowed, yeah. On a routine safety visit, his handlers, his parole officers found a human head.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Why were they checking his freezer? You gotta check. I'm not sure why they're checking his freezer, but they have to check everything. They look around your house. Is that what it is? You have no freedom on parole. Okay, yeah. You forfeit all your rights on parole.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Yeah, now they have some videotape of him leaving his apartment with some containers. And anyway, it's interesting interesting I thought we'd mention it it's also unfortunate for Josh I hope he doesn't feel too bad he'll get too much backlash and yeah all-round just it is sad it's unfortunate and it doesn't reflect upon Joe. It reflects a little bit upon Josh, Josh Dubin, but he's still doing good work. He's doing great work and this is just unfortunate. This is unfair and for him also,
Starting point is 00:04:21 let's just maybe we'll keep more of them inside. I don't know. Well, I think that- How innocent was this guy? What's gonna be interesting is when Josh is back on, and I don't see why this would change Rogan's attitude towards having him on. He believes in the project and the work,
Starting point is 00:04:41 and he's a repeat guest for sure. He's got like that position. Um, that, you know, I hope he addresses it. I hope he talks about it. Doesn't gloss over it. I mean, it's, it's just something that is, you know, really unfortunate. And I'd like to get more details on it. Like it's, it's, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:02 It's like, it sounds like the making of one of those shows, you know, that you watch on Netflix, like the Dateline or it's like the 48. Yeah, chopped up persons. Big deal. That's not just like regular murderers. It's like, and what are you doing with them? Keeping them at the house is like, are you just waiting for a good time to get rid of them?
Starting point is 00:05:29 You're like, ah, busy Wednesday. I can't get to this till Friday. Okay. You've seen, uh, you've seen snatch, right? Brick top talks about it. Oh, feed them to the pigs. What do you do? Now you've got a body.
Starting point is 00:05:42 What do you do? Now you've got a body. What do you do with it? So it sounds like to me that this was a retribution murder, a money murder, this guy disrespected him. It sounds like business to me. Right. And it sounds like sounds like Sheldon's back in the business of a crime. So, you know, but then you, what do you do with the body? You gotta make it manageable. Got to chop it up into manager parts. If you don't have pigs, you got the East, you got the river right there. He's from New York, I think, if that's not correct, you're going to want to use
Starting point is 00:06:15 a room in New York. Wait, are we trying to solve the back end of what he should have done with the, I don't think that was the focus of me bringing this up. Oh, that was what we were talking about. I'm like doing a survey with the audience. Hey, listeners, how would you get past this particular problem? Well, now you've chopped him up, right? What are you going to do with him?
Starting point is 00:06:35 Yeah. It sounds like he should have moved him faster and... Bury the whole freezer. ...while you're on parole. Don't do crime, you guys. I think just do, do a regular job and don't do anything that ultimately ends up with you having to have body parts in your freezer.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I would say all the things that could lead to that. Don't do those. Don't get yourself in there. Agree or disagree. Check somebody check Pete's freezer, please goodness. I know it's full of corn. Yeah, and I don't have any picks, so. Pico's gone. Let's move on.
Starting point is 00:07:14 All right, so what was your feel of, yeah, enough of that madness. Let's get on with the guess. What was your feel of Christopher Ruffa? What do you think of him? I like that guy. He came off very personable. I liked to hear him say it.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Whatever he was saying seemed pretty relatively normal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it seems like he's one of those examples of someone that was a bit more kind of like left and with the recent kind of shenanigans of the left is just gone more central and then now right ish and he's pointing out a lot of the chaos I grew with him about the you know that whole argument of living that live is but what about with
Starting point is 00:08:04 that you're living in that, in that living infringes upon my ability to live in that live as well. A hundred percent with drag queens, teaching our children wacky stuff, wacky stuff. And in the fact that, you know, and the ideologies and the Marxism stuff in, in universities that are being pushed and yeah, it's like hold hold the phone I mean, maybe this was cute for a minute and You know people are just exploring the wonderful freedoms that you get in this country, but
Starting point is 00:08:39 It's like you can't then use the freedom to destroy the freedom You just get my freedom like everyone else. You don't get to the freedom to destroy the freedom. You just get my freedom like everyone else. You don't get to take away anyone else's freedom, et cetera, et cetera. I mean, you might not like your other people's freedoms, but yet they're free to live. So, yeah. Oh, what's interesting about it though, is it's eating itself alive. It's like that, that serpent that eats itself picture.
Starting point is 00:09:05 It's like, Ouroboros. Right. Because, you know, the Oregon has pulled back on their open drug policy. It's like, doesn't work, you know, And they are now refunding the police. Right. Cause they have to. Oregon and Seattle are definitely refunding the police. in Seattle are definitely refunding the police.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Yeah. And you know, eventually these, these kind of ideologies are breaking down amongst themselves, you know, and on top of that, it's like, you can't be progressive enough these days. So even, I guess it was just yesterday or even a couple, I forget when, but AOC was chased down by in a couple. I forget when, but AOC was chased down by her own people saying that she wasn't for Palestine enough. And whatever your opinions are on that, she's totally for that. But she was attacked by her own fans. Right. This podcast is brought to you by Home Chef. Hey there, overwhelmed foodies? Are you drowning in a sea of meal kit options, feeling like you're on a bad dating game where every contestant looks the same?
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Starting point is 00:11:36 That where the antifa had like that Street, what was that Seattle? I can't remember but they had like a whole area and or was that Seattle? I can't remember, but they had like a whole area and they would, they started to turn on each other and like rob each other and mess the whole place up and it had nothing to do with this like new movement of support and pushback against the, you know, hypocrisy of ultimately, it seems like it's the people that tend towards these activities are just disagreeable narcissistic and selfish. There you go. You put all those people in a box in the cage, the crap is in a bucket. They'll clamber around and pinch each other. Good analogy. A lot of in-pinching going on.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Some in-pinching. Goodness. Well, I liked what he was saying when he, you know, so he, he was discussing this school, university, college, whatever, that, you know, he's in charge of that he just like put it together with the help of support from the governor as well. Right. Um, the governor actually kind of like giving, yeah, he's like assigned him to do this. Yeah. And all the teachers were getting pretty pissed off and they were like, you can't do this. I wait, you wait.
Starting point is 00:12:58 We're just blah, blah, blah. And he's like, I don't think you understand. You're already fired. All of you. I can fire. Yeah. Just coming into this meeting to be like, no, this shit has to go. They got rid of like gender studies. Um, some of the other kind of nonsense that goes with what's being taught in.
Starting point is 00:13:17 No, it wasn't gender studies that they got rid of. Was it, was it just, um, not gender studies. They, they, they are rid of, uh, the, uh, yeah, exactly. The cultural, no, some, no, damn it. Anyway. Yeah. We don't want to like shit on gender circle back. Talk about your, we'll come back and pop into my head. But yeah. So he, and you know, they're basically like changing up the university to make it affordable. Um, you know, teach just kind of better skills and get rid of some
Starting point is 00:13:53 of this wacky ideology. Um, I think that's great. Like why do all schools have to be the same and the same thinking? Like there should be some schools that don't really kind of cater to these more like nonsense points and yeah it's it's pretty fascinating I mean they abolished also like the pronouns I think it actually might have been a gender studies classes that they go rid of, but either way, it's the like rate, the race ideology one.
Starting point is 00:14:29 I forgot the name of it, but you know, it just sounds like something on the right that people would send their kids to. Right. And now he's being sued by the ACLU and you know, federal bureaucrats are like just kind of getting them all tangled up because he is under federal investigation for that. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Because he didn't recognize some person's ZZ pronouns. Like what? How are you under an investigation? Like how is that illegal? Anything? It's legal. We don't have a, we don't't have, we don't have it. We don't have a serious country anymore.
Starting point is 00:15:08 It's not very serious. Yeah. I mean, if your HR department is taking that seriously, it's just like, okay. Like, is this really abusive? I mean, is this what bullying is today? Like how sensitive are people? I'd love to sit in on a high school right now and just kind of like observe and just be like, what, what's happening here?
Starting point is 00:15:33 Like how are people behaving? I mean, you know, kids are cruel, man. They have these stages and it's like, there's bullying in school. There's like all these different things. Sure. It's not good, but now like, would that be like the fastest way to get out of being bullied and not being noticed as just the kind of come up with some pronouns and be like, you have to call me this.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Otherwise I'll get you kicked out of school. Not okay. It goes against free speech and the weird reality is the more inclusive we get, the less diverse we become and all this stuff is counterproductive. It weaponizes each other, also gets each other. Right. It teaches white people that are previously inclusive to be less inclusive. And it makes everyone the same. It homogenizes us. So it's less diverse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:30 It has the opposite effect. I think there's something there, you know, it's like accidentally driving us apart. And it's like, all I wanted to do is bring you all together by Accusing you of a lot of things and then yelling at you and then saying you had a ton of privilege and that you're all Assholes and all the problems were your fault, but I thought it would bring us together Like yes It cuts us off. It's the knees. Mm-hmm really? Really? Oh, okay, got it.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Critical race theory was being taught all over the world. That's the class. That's the class. New hot item, that critical race theory. So he is getting this. We already teach about race. We already teach about slavery. And we all know it's bad.
Starting point is 00:17:23 And we all know that every race is equal. Let's talk let me just read the the dictionary definition of critical race theory is a set of ideas holding that racial bias is inherent in many parts of western society especially in its legal and social institutions on the basis of their having been primarily desic designated. On the basis of their having been primarily designed for and implemented by white people. So that's already hard to even read. Harder to understand.
Starting point is 00:17:58 The first sentence says Western society. Well, guess what? The whole world has been very definitely racist its whole life. The whole of existence everywhere always has had plenty of racism. So when you say Western society, you're saying white people, and that means you're forgetting about the Islamic slave trade. You're free about Chinese racism against everybody in their doctrine now today. China hates everybody. Everyone, everybody's, anybody who's Chinese is a person. Anybody who's not Chinese is not a person. And he goes into this. So it's, that's what got him in trouble was
Starting point is 00:18:38 that bit about rejecting that wholeheartedly with as, as a, as a Marxist in disguise. Yeah. Yeah, I think. No, no, no. I like it. It's good. You know, I think that, I think it's definitely setting a bad precedent. It's like, okay, right. Yeah. Well, sorry. Like, we suck. And the first problem is that the definition is indecipherable. If you say critical austerity, anybody on the street, they'll say, oh, it's because it's about slavery or something. No, no, no. It is the definition. It goes beyond that. Definition isn't just about slavery. It's not at all about slavery. No, the definition
Starting point is 00:19:22 is that it sounded to me like white people make the laws in the west and those laws disenfranchised all kinds of non-white people and it's bad. And what is it which is actually on its face inaccurate because well England outlawed slavery and then they did from then on did their best to eradicate it in their realm. They did it quite early, actually. And they did it when it was a huge financial loss. Now, it's good. They did it, obviously.
Starting point is 00:19:59 And, you know, it's one of those things that you'd hear that today and be like, well, it doesn't matter whether it was a loss or not. They shouldn't have been doing it all. Well, yes, obviously I get it. Everybody else did it. Right. And also, but understand no one else made it illegal. Yeah, but and exactly understand what it means to be that progressive in that time to, like, stop it early while it you know actually cost you
Starting point is 00:20:28 know a great deal of money you know and wasn't supported by other countries that were like really into it. I mean Brazil I don't think had even really picked up their slave trading until England had already got to the point of trying to ban it. So there was like stages for this throughout history. And, you know, ultimately that, right. But ultimately that move that like, um, position that England took was what really helped reduce it and ultimately kind of get rid of it in all these other countries. But that took a long time.
Starting point is 00:21:08 So why now do we want to throw these people down that made it illegal and hold up these countries now that still practice it? Yeah. So we, anyway, it's nuts. It's a whole rabbit hole though. And I think that it's why it's important that people like Chris come on, discuss these things, like, explain, you know, what it is. It's not like, it's not like if you're against what these modern classes are doing,
Starting point is 00:21:40 that you're trying to bring back these archaic things, like nobody's talking about bringing slavery back, obviously. Um, it's, it's just, although now we do have more slaves today than there ever were in the whole history of the world. Right. Well, America doesn't obviously, but we do have some now thanks to the open border crisis. Oh, whoops. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:06 We've always had we've always had wage slaves and sex slaves. Yeah, that's true. Humans here. Where are most of them now, then? If we say we have slaves today cities. Along the border and in big cities. No, no. I mean, where are they mostly in the world? They're not mostly in America. Oh, oh, no. I mean, where are they mostly in the world? They're not mostly in America. Oh, oh, no, of course. Is it like, is it like Eastern Europe? Is it like where
Starting point is 00:22:29 are all of these people? Africa? They're in, yes, they're in Africa. They're in, um, not, they're in a, yes, they're, they're mostly in Africa. They're mostly in Western and Central Africa. Okay. And they're black people, enslaved black people, Christians to Muslims, or Muslims to Christians. It's mostly along those lines, tribal lines. Right. And it's not really talked about, you know? Well, it's like people are kind of shocked to hear these facts as well. Yeah. And it's, you know, it's like, we just don't know enough about what goes on. Like we get pretty upset about things here in this country and we're not looking around to seeing how ridiculous it is in some other places where there's, you
Starting point is 00:23:18 know, a bunch of slaves. Like that's, that's all. We take that back there all over the world. They're in Asia, Africa a little bit in Europe a little bit in the United States lots and and Lots in South America. Okay, civil unrest. There are people that have nothing that can be bought and sold Yeah unbelievable
Starting point is 00:23:41 Yeah, and heartbreaking too Heartbreaking am I getting too crazy? I'm gonna tone it down, you guys. It's good. You're getting fired up, dude. You're getting fired up because Christopher Roeffel fired you up. But you know. He fired me up.
Starting point is 00:23:55 That's what he's like. Likes to get people fired up. Since you're fired up, let's jump over to Jack Snyder. And let's talk movies. Let's talk 300. That'll get you fired up. This is spot. Now that legendary movie. It's great.
Starting point is 00:24:12 It's pretty like it is from like 2004, I think 2005. It's like kind of a long time ago now. And yeah, that is for sure. It's like, it doesn't feel like that to my brain. I'm like a movie is not that old yet. It's like classic now. It's a big deal. That's like watching Terminator 1 when we were in high school.
Starting point is 00:24:38 That's how long that gap is. Eighty nine. Was that eighty nine? No, Terminator 1 is like eighty like 83 day old early 80s early yeah we're getting older I guess that's it we are but yeah really cool that he so he basically as a director started off doing a lot of commercials shooting commercials flying around that sounded like fun job. And then always been into kind of like graphic novels. Um, you know, kind of the storyboarding set up. Um, he did the watchman true to the, being true to the source material.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Right. Yeah. And you know, he did the watchman. Joe has talked about being a big fan of that dark superhero movie for a long time. And I think Zach is right. I think the timing on that was just unfortunate, you know, because now we've had all the Marvel movies. We've even had that TV series, The Boys, which is awesome.
Starting point is 00:25:41 And you know, I think if something like The Watchmen came out today, it would be far better received. I almost feel like people weren't quite ready for it when it came out. He was Joe asked him why he didn't make a second one. Well, he said there's no comic book. So he doesn't even have source material for that one. So how did he have the first story? It was just one graphic novel? Yes. Right. Oh, and they didn't...
Starting point is 00:26:13 Why did it not become a... It seems like... That just seems unusual to me. The characters are so well developed and it's and there's some really cool unique Like superheroes in there that they just made one story and that was it Mm-hmm seems wasted. Well Well, I mean it's a pretty long novel. Okay Or my IVM fair enough if you make it this in today's age then they might've made four movies and three of them sucked.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Right. Yeah. Yeah. But watching was a cool idea though. Because it was, wasn't it basically like a group of superheroes, but it was like years later after they were superheroes. It's like they kind of retired. Some of them are still doing it a little bit.
Starting point is 00:27:07 It's kind of like started mid, you know, later in life for them, but there was flashbacks. And so, and the whole story was about their whole lives. It's a good movie. And I actually liked the HBO special, the Watchmen as well. It's great, I've seen it twice, it's good. Oh, nice. Yeah, I should dip into that the
Starting point is 00:27:28 It looks pretty good Dope Johnson, I didn't know 300 was a low-budget movie like shot in 60 days as well I knew it was all green screen. I knew it was like set up like that way Because I remember seeing clips of them filming it but doing it in two months that's really impressive. We were also shocked that they didn't have any CGI on their bodies and it was they were actually that ripped. No I knew they got in like super good shape for it. I think though it's not that their abs were painted on but I think there is
Starting point is 00:28:04 like a little bit of not necessarily makeup, but they just kind of like highlighted some of the six pack action. But yeah, those guys were in incredible shape. Like they freaking worked out like madness. I mean, that it's why that movie is so dope. I forgot fast bend was in it actually. That was one of his early movies.
Starting point is 00:28:27 They were, what does that line where they, he says like the, the Persian armies arrows will blot out the sun and fast benders like all the, we'll fight in the shade legend. Legendary. There's some great lines. Cold killer. Stone cold. Tough as did you hear him describe the nature of the rural Spartans?
Starting point is 00:28:46 No, go ahead. Pretty like gay dudes, right? Pretty petooey. Very, very. There was a lot of that time. Weird though. And actually in a society because they couldn't get enough Spartans to get born. Cause they were all buggering one another.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Is that right? Yeah. That's what collapsed Sparta. Yes. It was like the, the Persians were like, you know what we just, let's not try and invade him because 300 people is like, turns out really tough. But if we just hang out for a bit, I think that this is going to sort itself out. I'll sort themselves out.
Starting point is 00:29:30 And they actually got defeated, ultimately, I think, by Athens. I hope I'm not being miscorrect here. Oh, yeah. Well, but yeah, because Athens outlawed Pederasty and is punishable by death. Spartans were like, no, we'll keep it up. We're going to breed ourselves out of existence here. Yeah, you shouldn't laugh about that, but it's the, what a strange time. I mean, I'd heard stories of like Plato, Socrates, that kind of, you know, these like wise philosopher types and they would have their, not an intern,
Starting point is 00:30:07 but you have like a young boy that somebody gives them and then you train them up and there's just these weird relationships. And it's like, how did this become a thing that people thought was normal? Like how does- Socrates had many. Right. Many like, maybe like 12 at one time like he'd call him like he'd go swimming in his pool and he'd have these boys dive in and swim around
Starting point is 00:30:36 and uh nibble on his toes and he called him his little minnows oh what yeah ridiculous and this Oh, what? Yeah. Ridiculous. And this is like one of the smartest guys. Well, let's say that again. And this is like supposedly one of the wisest, smartest people, you know, and ethical didn't, was it Socrates that ended up, he was killed by Athens, right? Hmm. Yes. He basically was like, I refuse to do something because this goes against my morals. So they, you know, executed him and he could have just like left.
Starting point is 00:31:13 They were like, you can just leave. You don't have to do this. And he's like, no, morally I have to also buggering these 12 boys. So maybe it's not so sad that he was poisoned with hemlock. Yeah, they killed him. So strange. They voted him dead. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Well, there you go. Back to Mr. Schneider here. He did talk about like that whole 10,000 hours thing of like, how did he get so good at making these movies and like any kind of directing, filming, whatever. And when he talked about the storyboarding of that one movie that he put together, it was like- Rebel Moon?
Starting point is 00:32:01 That's right, yeah, I haven't seen that. I need to check it out. But yeah, he said it was like 3, Rebel Moon. That's right. Yeah. I haven't seen that. I need to check it out. But yeah, he said it was like 3000 storyboards or something. That just seems so absurd. How could you manage that? She was artists. He's a true, true artist. Yeah. It's an incredible amount of work though. Um, to get that through. Are you looking up rebel moon now? I am I thought you were yeah, so it's a
Starting point is 00:32:28 What's the deal with that show? Is a film set in a fictional galaxy ruled by imperial imperialistic mother world whose military the Imperium threatens a farming colony on the moon of veld Who it sounds like doony So like a bit doony for me. They've come out with Dune two, I think, as well. I don't know if it's widely released yet, but those stories are pretty, pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:32:57 I'm into them. But dude, guy, I like doing quite a bit. Yeah, it's it's it's cool. It's a good book. He's got like all the elements in there. He has a religion science like racism Right, but how how much is how many of those books did they make? so Frank Herbert made wrote one book and then his son and in a collaboration wrote many like four or five more.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Okay. Okay. Yeah. Well, I mean, these moves are going well, so they're going to make a bunch of those. What project did Zach say he's working on now? Is it like he's just making the like the R rated version of this story. Right. I'm not sure what he's up to.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Rebel man. He's up to something. This guy is up to something. He had a great attitude. I liked him. I liked him a lot. I thought that he, uh, super enthusiastic, great attitude. Um, you know, any, any kind of, he went into some things and shared some things
Starting point is 00:34:06 I mean towards the end he talked about the loss of his daughter to suicide and that he's a big advocate for Mental health, you know, he also talked about his oldest brother when he was young, you know died and You know, he understands death. He understands the pain that is around it. Um, and, and it also seemed like the podcast kind of ended a little abruptly after that part of it. And I'm sure it wasn't Joe's intention to be like, Oh, okay. Getting into some personal stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Let's just skip it. But, um, you know, he's probably just didn't have as much time, but it seemed to kind of cut off quick. I don't know if you had this thought. I thought I, I picked up on that a little bit, but I think that they ran it all into the ground. I think that they covered everything. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Right. They did agree. They had a great convo. It must be on the on that Sorry, go ahead. Yeah, just you know how brutal and painful it is to Have the loser daughter to suicide and then get to a point where now you can discuss it You know, which is kind of like what he was doing yeah, anyway, just painful to hear sad to think about. And, um, poor guy for like really having to go through that. Um, let's jump over to Kevin
Starting point is 00:35:33 James. Um, love this guy. He's been around forever. Been a good friend of Rogan's for a long time. Came up with Rogan in the comedy circuit. So yeah, they're real old friends. And it's really cool that they both have had very successful careers, you know, going back to when they went up to the Montreal Comedy Festival, which was back in the, you know, early mid-90s, the place where you would go and you land a contract
Starting point is 00:36:02 if you do well. And it sounded like they both were lucky enough to do well and got contracts. Joe got like a hundred thousand dollar deal. Kevin got a good one. It also really cool to hear the early days. It sounds like Joe has genuinely been a good friend, you know, to people in his life forever.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Like he was really encouraging of Kevin. He's like, you can do it. Like get out there. Yeah. They were saying hype man. Um, that's, that's cool stuff. Like that's someone you can count on. That's a real friend right there.
Starting point is 00:36:44 It is cool. Is who? Sorry. Like that's someone you can count on. That's a real friend right there. It is cool. Is who could care to sorry. Cool to hear all that. And also cool to hear Kevin James talk about his own need for a person like that. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And we no matter how successful you are, we all can feel like we're not successful. Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, I like that about Kevin. He didn't come on with much ego, you know?
Starting point is 00:37:12 And it makes sense that Joe would be close to him because it's, you know, I don't think Joe would tolerate too much of a person that's too full of himself. And Kevin seems like real, you know, down to earth, I would say. I mean, he talked a lot about not having great community currently, sticking to certain things. Like you wished he'd stuck to jiu-jitsu like Joe had. They started at the same time. We wish that you could stick to workouts. You know, he's just kind of like falling off a little bit in these areas.
Starting point is 00:37:45 And, um, you know, and it says something about discipline too. I mean, obviously Joe has a unique handle on that on his own discipline, his own control, what did he call about it? You got to have your own coach and you know, you make that voice, the loud, the loudest voice in your system, the one that says get up, get this done, not sit on the couch and you're too tired and blah, blah, blah. Like don't listen to that guy. Not very much. It's wise words. He's, he's got, he's got a good head on his shoulders. That guy. I think it's's I always like to think about Kevin James as like as Sweet and cuddly as he looks he could still probably rip your head off. Yeah
Starting point is 00:38:34 Probably he's a he has thought professionally, right? Oh, yeah, I think so and he's definitely done I don't know if it was professionally, but he's definitely He's definitely done, I don't know if it was professionally, but he's definitely done a good amount of martial arts. So yeah, he can handle himself. He can handle himself for sure. And everybody seems too nice to begin in fights with anyway. Have you seen the King of Queens? I've seen maybe a few episodes.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Yeah, I don't remember it too well. Popular show, people like it. Yeah, the- Rogan's had her on too. What's her name? Leah? Yeah, what was it? About the Scientology stuff? That's it, Scientology stuff. Yeah, she escaped it. They made life difficult for her.
Starting point is 00:39:22 I'm surprised they didn't bring that up. Well, I don't know. I mean, maybe he shouldn't talk about it. Yeah, he doesn't need to. He doesn't need to. Um, but. Anyway, he's, you know, and he's also done a bunch of movies. Hitched. That was good. The mall cop guy. That's actually quite funny. Yeah, really actually quite funny
Starting point is 00:39:54 The one bit I want to kind of end with they were talking about kind of towards the end is that Joe in in hardball like early on the first thing he ever got pitched for, he was like fighting with the producer to the point of almost getting fired. Like not to say Joe is stubborn, but like he stands up for what he believes in. Like, and you wouldn't think that you would have the balls to do that in your kind of early to mid twenties.
Starting point is 00:40:23 That's not easy to do. No, that takes some strength. It's interesting that Kevin James had his daughter has those autistic tendencies and was helped out pretty pretty successfully by that doctor he mentioned. Oh yeah, I don't know. successfully by that doctor he mentioned. Oh yeah. I don't know. They didn't really explain exactly how the help was coming, but yeah, that sounded really interesting. Like it's nice to know that there are things out there
Starting point is 00:40:57 that we haven't discovered in terms of mental health and relief for people that are struggling maybe physically or otherwise to like improve their lives. Um, it's pretty cool stuff, you know, I feel like a lot of things can be adjusted with diet too. And we don't know yet. We don't know all the ins and outs of all of those things. They're seeing that often with keto, with ketogenics, you know, that it's like... It helps the brain. Exactly. Helping the brain, reducing, you know, symptoms of dementia and kind of Alzheimer's. And then, you know, it just, it seems like a lot of sugar metabolism in our system, a lot of like glucose consumption is causes many problems that then can be relieved and, um, it, yeah, fascinating stuff to think
Starting point is 00:41:58 about. Um, but yeah, it's cool also that he was willing to talk about this situation with his daughter and what she'd been through. And he seemed like an open book on this one. It's really a good dad. Yeah. I like, I like him a lot and I'm excited to hear his new stuff. His new standups.
Starting point is 00:42:19 He's, he's inspired after this. I think, I think so. Yeah. And let's see, let's see if his coach, if he can make his coach voice loud and listen to Rogan. I think he should move out to Austin. He sounded keen to do it. He should get out there.
Starting point is 00:42:35 He should start performing at the mothership. And the last thing I'll say is the fact that he can fast pretty comfortably for 40 plus days is extraordinary. Like, well done. How do you do that? Jesus, Gandhi, that's about it. Who else? Yeah, who else can do that many days? He just brought it up like it was nothing. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:43:03 I'm like, what? How much weight do you lose in that time? Like literally 50 pounds in a month, he was saying. He said 60 or 70 pounds altogether. I think that's extreme, dude. It's like, how about just eat better all the time then you don't have to quite go that far. He was doing it for like a family reason for his daughter. He was inspiring his daughter. Yeah, inspire. You know, that's good. That's good.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Well, God bless her. And he did seven days and she said she felt better. And he said, okay, I'm gonna do more. And he went 41 days. Good for him. Well, that's a hell of a motivation. Find motivation like that and it'd be easy to do. But there you go guys.
Starting point is 00:43:42 That was a good week of pods. I really enjoyed those guests on there as always thanks for listening we appreciate you Pete thank you thank you you're a legend thank you guys and everyone have a good week talk to you soon

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