Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 382 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Francis Foster & Konstantin KisinEt al.

Episode Date: May 4, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:20 Oh, hey guys, and welcome to another episode of the JRE Review. Joined as always by my co-host pete. What's up, dude? Howdy adam good to see you so good So good all around. Oh, thank you. Thank you. You too. You too this week trigonometry francis foster and constantine kissing Bless them. Those guys are great.
Starting point is 00:01:46 They crack me up. And then Bart, um, Seabro, I think it's how you say it. The moon landing Denier guy, which is, you know, I don't know where anyone falls on this, but it's a fun thing to talk about. And it's kind of a thing that it almost got into the chemtrail world for a while where it was got into the chemtrail world for a while where it was like, oh yeah, completely deniable, which, you know, I'm not saying that they're related or whatever, but it's like, sometimes there's energy behind conspiracies
Starting point is 00:02:18 where like people are thinking about it and they're into it and then it just drops off, you know? And I'm always kind of intrigued when there's like a revival. And this seems to be a revival. Like I don't think about the moon landing stuff often. Maybe I should. I don't. I don't know. Either way, I don't think about it.
Starting point is 00:02:44 I'm just like, all right, I guess that was history or whatever. But when you bring someone on like him and they start getting into it, it's like, it's fun to play with and what a platform like Joe's brave man. He's brave. I'd say so. Yeah. It seems like the people of our generation don't really consider the moon landing.
Starting point is 00:03:07 We just like, oh, it's a thing that happened a long time ago. Right, well we are born after it, right? I mean, a long time. We assume that it just happened, and it was undeniable and non-debatable. But what- But this guy really-
Starting point is 00:03:21 Here's the thing, too. Of all the conspiracy theories this one is entirely provable and All we need to do is have that Access to that Chinese satellite that spins around the moon because it could just film all the shit we left there We left too much stuff if they faked it, right? Then they should have been like, we took everything with us. And then just so you know, we also dusted behind us. You know, we just kind of like dusted the ground because we didn't want to leave any trace. that would have been a better conspiracy plan. If that wasn't part of their plan and this is fake,
Starting point is 00:04:09 how the fuck are we not gonna find it true? Because eventually we're gonna go there and if there isn't a fucking little buggy up there. Lunar pod. Yeah, then they're fucked. How long until we can just look at the buggy? Like, I guess. I mean, if we have a better, a good enough microscope,
Starting point is 00:04:30 microscope telescope. So supposedly even the Hubble telescope, which is in low Earth orbit, even though it can like scan, you know, the back of the universe or whatever it can do, it isn't powerful enough to focus in on the buggies on the moon. I call bullshit, right? Well, it sounds like it should be able to, right? But I guess- If they can see stars being born.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Yeah, but maybe there's variants and like time-lapse though. Who knows right? But like supposedly it can't quite do it But that fucking Chinese one that is like spinning around the moon can see it all so how long before Elon has Something up there that is spinning around. I guess we're starting on the moon one. We're starting on the moon one. Okay?
Starting point is 00:05:30 Oh, we're starting on the moon one. Yeah, we're starting on Bart Siebel on the moon one because I'm into it. Yeah, it just seems to be reasonable that some of that footage is bullshit. And also it's not unreasonable that they would have used it too. Like so say they got, they went to the moon, but the footage was bad so they had to fake it kind of thing. Like I could see that being true.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Right. So that is way more plausible, right? We know that they bought Stanley Kubrick in to make some of the footage in like the... He said so, right? Yeah, yeah. So that could have happened. The whole documentary about it? Did he make the Shining about that? The Shining had so many different players.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Kind of like had to throw out some clues so he didn't get killed by the CIA. 37,000 miles between the Earth and the moon. But dude, dude, just imagine how, this might be the best conspiracy to get behind in terms of how fucking full of shit we can be. Imagine. You remember when I sent you those videos?
Starting point is 00:06:48 Which one? The videos of Buzz Aldrin. All the times he's, he has just straight up said, we never went. Buzz? A little girl, is it Neil Armstrong? Who's the guy that like, like see it freaky and goes to all the parties and he's like 90 something?
Starting point is 00:07:04 Oh yeah, that's Buzz. Yeah, Neil, dude, Neil doesn't go out at all. So they even talked about it. So they talked about Neil on this podcast and, and he basically did one really peculiar speech, which Rogan played to, I guess they invited him to the white house and he was just like, yep, well, there's things that you don't know and people don't talk about like that kind of thing. It was like that really ambiguous kind of wackiness and you leave it going, wait, what the fuck did this guy say? He's the biggest hero. He's like a superhero. He's a real life superhero. He's the first man's the biggest hero. He's like a superhero.
Starting point is 00:07:45 He's a real life superhero. He's the first man on the moon. But- He's an American superhero. Right. Yet nobody's heard from him. He didn't come around. He didn't do interviews.
Starting point is 00:07:55 He just like stayed to himself. And you know, I guess there's a part of that where you could be like, well, you know, but that's what a real hero would do. He just like does his thing, is is awesome and then fucks off but it's a bit odd not many people do that I'm more of a Buzz Aldrin guy who really hangs it out there yeah yeah where's a lot of weird jewelry go to some sex parties yeah he goes to every like you, you know, moon fan thing. Even punches a, like a moon denier.
Starting point is 00:08:29 He punched one, didn't he? Yeah, he punched one, dude. Why would you punch one? If you went there, why would you? You'd just be like, shut the fuck up. Yeah, maybe, but like, come on, how annoyed can you be? You're a fucking superhero, like whatever. He grew up in the 60s where you just punched people that you didn't particularly care for.
Starting point is 00:08:50 That's a good point. Yeah, and he's a badass. If you went to the moon, you're a badass. Let's be honest. But like, let's say some of these questions are real and none of us can know. That's the thing. So no matter what side you're on on this, whether you like oh yeah a hundred percent believe it or I don't believe it's bullshit they usually aren't people in the middle because they quickly once you're in the middle you start to go like moon denier side but like let's just keep it over mind like like okay so they say they went, other people are saying they can't go, but there seems to be a massive divide, right? And we don't have the data that we can really like understand.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Like is this belt of radiation actually, is it so bad you can't get through? Like, one thing we know for sure, no one has left low Earth orbit since the last moon landing. Nobody. And that's a huge difference. We're talking like, like thousands of times difference. And the guys that supposedly went there, they don't have horrible cancers or anything. You know that they would. They would have been exposed to radiation at a deadly rate for over an hour. Embrace something new at Starbucks. Introducing the ice lavender cream oat matcha tea latte.
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Starting point is 00:11:20 It's like, well, okay, who does it next? I think that's a big part of the problem of the next, like, mission to the moon is we're going to see a whole different system going up there. And like they went they went first time they got this right. That's kind of stands out to me. It's like first time, dude. First time with humans. It's not like we sent.
Starting point is 00:11:50 We didn't even send monkeys there the first time. Wouldn't we have sent monkeys somehow? We would have definitely sent some monkeys. Dude, the Russians sent monkeys into space. Dogs. But that was low Earth orbit. Yeah, they got fucked up. Poor little doggies. Yeah, bless them.
Starting point is 00:12:05 But pretty, pretty cool. If you're a dog, that's not like you're not living long anyway, and you get to go to space. That's not a bad dog life. If you have your like ferret plushie, you can you can make love to on the way up. Fine. Yeah, some toys in there. Some way, all the snacks you can eat on a timer. Squeakies?
Starting point is 00:12:26 Yeah, all the squeakies. I mean, but you know, the different, I mean, but that's the thing, right? It's like we count low author orbit as like space, which it is, but mostly you just kind of like falling back into the earth. But like, once you get out there to believe that we haven't got out there, we didn't do it. We didn't even get close. It's not real. I'm kind of like, I'm kind of convinced that this guy had, I mean, he first he starts it off painting a picture about how many times in that era that the government lied to us. Yes, that was convincing.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Like potentially JFK, then the Gulf of Tongan incident. Tongan, yeah, yeah. Where the started world, what is it, the Vietnam War? Yep. All these things happening and lie after lie, we just believe it because there's no way for us to fact
Starting point is 00:13:25 check and then we have this huge race try to beat the Ruskies up to the moon and we win and they were supposed to believe it dude imagine if it was the most effective propaganda um event in history. And then when we're constantly giving the Russians shit about their propaganda, they're like, hey, we just weren't as good at it as you were. Like we, we, yeah, we learned from you. And now this is why we do this. And it's maybe this is how governments are running, dude. I mean, that's not out of the realm of possibility. And it's fun.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Let's not forget. I'm so easily swayed. Let's not forget how fun this is. This is why this is worth talking about. I'm having a lot of fun. Yeah, this is why Rogan brings people on like this. Rogan was almost annoying by how many. Level headed objections he had to this guy's stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:32 But he still made his argument. I know. And even even Bart got upset. But to be fair to him, 20 million people are going to listen to Rogan's podcast. And it's going gonna be so easily dismissed by so many people. It's like, what's a reasonable argument against this? Right? So the big thing for Bart was the window.
Starting point is 00:14:59 And I don't know how compelling that was for me. You know, not that he has to persuade me, but like, okay, so he's like filming back and looking at the earth and then there was like another camera in the window and there was some confusion. But then there was also like the other version of the camera that showed like people walking in front of it. Um, you know, the, the only thing that really fucks that fairy up is. If they were also willing to make fake footage, right? Cause they were like, look, we're not going to be able to capture a lot of good footage up there and you're all going to be blasted with radiation and you're
Starting point is 00:15:44 probably going to die. But if you don't die, that's great, but you probably will die. But we're going to throw you up there anyway and give you iodide or whatever when you get back and try and treat you for cancer stuff and take care of you the rest of your life. Also we don't think the footage will work, so we're gonna kind of like replicate these same things. And then it all gets leaked. It's like that, that would kind of look the same, right? Like they would be filming it through a similar looking window and blah blah blah. Or if the video could be a practice video, they could just be practicing their shots,
Starting point is 00:16:24 you know? Yeah, they could just be practicing their shots, you know? Yeah, that could see that happening. Yeah, that's why I why I didn't really connect with what Bart was saying on on like the biggest reasons why he was just sold on it. However, I would say that it's still reasonable because the big thing he did put out there is like, if you do this for real, why would you fake any of it? Because it's such an unusually spectacular event, it's important to document it as clearly as you can, regardless of what you find. And that is what stands out to me. You know, it's like they're not faking any footage of any other historical event that I can ever think of. Maybe it's because it's a positive event, like he said.
Starting point is 00:17:20 You know, it's not like a war. It's not like some other conspiracy. It's like purely positive. So it's like, yeah, let's curate this. So it's the most beautiful example of our... American tried and true work ethic. Yeah, yeah. Just progress and,
Starting point is 00:17:45 but also you're doing it anyway. Like surely you could put, I don't know, could you put like lead around a camera so it doesn't get zapped? I mean, even if you couldn't put it around a spacecraft or a person, could you put it just, how heavy would that need to be? You could, you could lead line some some like you'd have to line the
Starting point is 00:18:08 whole camera and all your film negatives in your film lined because that would be imprinted with those. So maybe maybe not even even the input, like the bit where the light comes in is full of radiation. I mean, he's saying he's saying that it's like hundreds of times more than what you get zap with the dentist. But I mean, you could go past the belt and be free of that radiation. And you get past the real question. And that alabelle is.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Yeah, it's only it's only so far, right? But the real question is how much are they zapping you with? And that's what's really not clear to the layman, which is what we are. It's like we don't have the data on it. We can't do the math. I can look up the Ben Alibel real quick. Yeah, but where did that information come from?
Starting point is 00:19:04 That's part of the- Yeah, you're right do the math. I can look up the are electric the way the Earth is electric. Interesting. So it's it's basically a part of our what do you call that thing that goes around the like the electrona? Is it called magnetosphere? Let's just call it that. Yeah. Let's see. It says the Apollo astronauts going through the Van Allen Belt received a very low and unharmful dose of radiation. But they would say that, you know.
Starting point is 00:19:50 But why would they, though? Maybe just to keep to keep the lie alive. OK. But but I mean, but that's the point. It's like, well, how do we know? How do we know? It's like, well, how do we know? How do we know? So what is that thing called again? It's called the Van Allen radiation belt. Discovered in 1958.
Starting point is 00:20:18 So they barely learned about it before they had to travel through it 10 years later. Right? Yeah, that makes you think. And why would we be able to go there then and now it would take 15 years for us to get there and said they only did it in two? Yeah. And then they have a huge top-down bureaucracy that was really ineffective. There's a lot of questions. I have a lot of questions.
Starting point is 00:20:53 That guy, he really made me want like question it. Yeah. And I guess that was a good, that's good. We have to question this stuff. It's reasonable. And the more I learn about our government, the more I learn, they're not afraid to lie to us. So chat GPT just said the Van Allen radiation belt can pose a significant radiation hazard to astronauts or humans in spacecrafts passing through them. Exposure to high level radiation
Starting point is 00:21:18 for extended periods can increase the development of radiation sickness, cancers, and health issues. However, spacecrafts and space missions are typically designed with shielding to protect astronauts from radiation. Additionally, spacecraft trajectories are carefully planned to minimize the time spent in these areas. Well, okay. Maybe. Yeah. But I did not know that there have been so few people that have supposedly gone through this Van Allen Bell. It's a very limited number of people that have ever been. Yeah, none of them died of cancer as far as we know.
Starting point is 00:22:01 None of them. So so like, it's either not bad at all, right? And these conspiracy theorists are way off or it's bullshit. Or they didn't go there at all. And if only everybody done. Yeah, I feel like if you are making your conspiracy, right? And I'm just trying to play the same role Rogum is doing.
Starting point is 00:22:29 I'm just trying to make sense of it. But if you were trying to like make this real, like they're saying the government did, maybe like the CIA should have given some of these astronauts cancer to be like, yeah, it's still pretty bad, but you know, that would work. Right. I mean, look, if there is like he was Bart was pointing out, they're the only ones that know the secret. So kill them off by poisoning them with radiation. And then I feel like I'm giving the CIA good ideas right now.
Starting point is 00:23:19 And I apologize. They, their ideas are always just, just kill them. You're not giving them anything. They already know. They already know. What are you doing? They their ideas are always just just kill him You're not giving him any hell. Yeah, they were they have they heard he knew What are you doing? You're letting them live you letting them live to like old age and like some reason they're not dying I mean that's gonna be the first clue is when we start sending them up there again and Elon is like dude. I put fucking like two feet of lead on these ships and everyone's getting blasted to death. Well we're going to know right away they didn't go.
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Starting point is 00:25:03 All right. Well, what about the AI technology that was used for deep faking, right? So it's like AI technology that can look at any picture and see if it's a deep fake. They looked at all the Chinese satellite imagery of the moon, and we know they have a satellite up there. Everything came back 100% fine. It wasn't fucked with. Yet they plugged in a bunch of pictures from the Apollo moon missions and every single one of them showed up fake.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Well, I saw a thing like a but I saw saw Buzz Aldrin's suit on a, a display at a museum somewhere. And the bottom of his shoes is not the shoe print print that is on the moon photo. What? They're completely different prints. Get the fuck out of there. They're completely different prints. Yeah. You saw it yourself?
Starting point is 00:26:01 No, look it up. It's a, it's a thing you can look up. Oh, okay. No look it up. It's a it's a thing you can look up. Oh, okay But yeah, also I sent you a video of a little girl asking Buzz Aldrin if he was afraid About going to the moon and he said yeah, I would have been but I never went we didn't go if we had gone It would have been scary and maybe that's a deep fake, but it faked me out Get the fuck out of here. Hold on. Let me pull that up Yeah, so this was not easy to find on YouTube
Starting point is 00:26:29 And I mean it wasn't like incredibly difficult But it was you know you write in a bunch of things like little girl ask questions and blah blah blah They have a clip, but here it is Check it out Why has nobody been to the moon in such a long time? Check it out. But I think I know. Because we didn't go there and and that's the way it happened and and if it didn't happen it's nice to know why it didn't happen. So in the future if we want to keep doing something we need to know why
Starting point is 00:27:23 something stopped in the past that we wanted to keep it going. Yeah. So I don't know. I guess you could just say that he's being old and ridiculous there, you know, just like an old man just saying his things. But like, yeah, we let Biden get away with a lot of stuff. And yeah, we lead the free world. I mean, that doesn't sound good.
Starting point is 00:27:53 He's like, number one, that's not an eight year old question. And also, we got to ask ourselves, hey, if we want to do something in the future, we didn't do in the past, blah, blah, blah, blah. But we want to do. Why didn't we do it? That's a fucking weird thing to say That's weird, dude. And those those guys have been saying stuff like that for since since since since it since it happened Well, the difficult thing there is is they were the elite of the elite right there have been movies made
Starting point is 00:28:22 With these guys they were the best like Air Force, weren't they like Air Force fighter pilots, most of them? Or test pilots? Yes. Yeah, they were bad asses, right? They were like, hey, we got to the top of our fucking game being awesome. And somehow you want us to pretend that we did something good? It's gotta be at some point like a national pride thing.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Like you are our best of the best. Everyone looks at you, looks up to you. So you're part of this American dream image we have to portray. We gotta beat the Ruskies. Dude, and you know, the last thing I wanna do is not make America awesome. I wanna make it the most awesome.
Starting point is 00:29:09 I love this country, okay? Also, I think we can do it by being honest. I think we can be like, well, a bit honest, you know? It's gotta be some covert shit, I get that. But like, if you start to make us question this and Also, if you killed one of our presidents, which is not cool I don't give a fuck how much we don't like one of our presidents. You don't get to kill them okay, you don't get to do that and you don't get to start wars and
Starting point is 00:29:43 Yeah, not cool and you don't get to fake a fucking yeah, not cool. And you don't get to fake a fucking moon landing. And if you do, let's turn around and be like, yeah, that happened. Also, why would they be so fucking worked up now? Everyone that did that then is not in office. So can we start with a new slate? It's like, it's not the same person, right? This isn't your neighbor Ron that had some weird stuff
Starting point is 00:30:09 going on in his backyard for a few weeks. And we were like, is that guy weird? And then he has to keep up some sort of fucking charade his whole life just because, you know, he had like a big bonfire for a while and his wife went missing. It's not the same person. You have new people in there. You could admit your wrongs. I think you're onto something. Let's admit we're wrong.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Let's get there. Really? If we want to go, let's go. Yeah, just be like, hey, the Russians were pissing us off and we wanted to be awesome. So we fucking lied and it destroyed Russia. So there we go. We nailed it. Also, we're not going to do that again. And. Nailed it. Nailed it. I mean, it might be like the, the, the funniest thing to me is that, you know, the Russian space program was like pretty solid, right?
Starting point is 00:31:13 They, they, they put Sputnik up first, the first satellite, they put like people up there, dogs, the rest of it, you know, and then we started to like beat them. A woman for God's sakes? Oh, bless them. But, but like then our news is way better than theirs. So then we're like, oh yeah, we got further and then we got further and now we're on the moon and then we're playing golf on the moon. Like we were fucking like, if this was bullshit, dude, we were stomping their face in the dirt with it.
Starting point is 00:31:48 And they will probably like, what the fuck? We've done all the math. It will kill everyone that goes up there. And somehow you're there playing golf, have hanging out for three days. And then your little rocket just like pops off the moon, playing golf, hanging out for three days. That's a long time. And then your little rocket just like pops off the moon, like a poop just pops. Dude, it just popped off there.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And then I wonder, like, so you need like an ordinate amount of fuel to get there. But on the way back, you can just, you can just fall back to earth gracefully. It takes the same amount of time. Just pop off. What's this guy Bart? He kind of he got another one. He got me, dude. It's like I've got a feeling that America got really good at making movies, and they are the best. Let's be honest. America is the best at making movies and they are the best. Let's be honest. America is the best at a lot of things. Have you seen Bollywood though? Bollywood's coming up. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Have you seen the fight scenes in Bollywood movies? There's some of the most ridiculous fights. They love slow mo. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Like I've seen a guy kick a turret off a tank in a Bollywood movie They don't even worry about reality in those things. Have you did you watch rrr? rise resist revolt That's probably the best one That's Bollywood It's my not it might be uh It might be tollywood. It's it's right right, it's from, it's from that region. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:33:26 What's Taliwood? The Taliban? It's in Telugu, it's another language. Oh, sorry. Let me just, let me just, let me look. Google it, Google it. But yeah, maybe it was like, hey, yeah, this is so far off and we can get close
Starting point is 00:33:44 and we know we could fake the whole thing. And I don't know. I feel like, I feel like there's a reasonable question out there. This is why we've done 30 minutes on this one. It's like also $200 billion it costs and they lost the footage. Are you fucking kidding me? They don't have the footage. Can we write to NASA?
Starting point is 00:34:04 Like, could you and me be like, hey, we're taxpayers. I'd like some footage from that. And they'd be like, yeah, yeah, cool. That's like all this shit. I'll send it to you. And they have they're also just like, no, we didn't keep it for some reason. They just spent between 200 billion
Starting point is 00:34:24 and 400 billion, right? And they have this one copy of all these credible movies. Do they supposedly lost all of them, according to the bar? In one night, in a night. A week, a couple of weeks. Well, it's like how would you- We left the catalog, it burned everything down. But is anyone asking that question?
Starting point is 00:34:44 Like where the fuck is the original footage and why don't you have it? Like, wouldn't you keep everything massively documented? Like this is the most incredible thing we've ever done. We left the planet. The fuel for me and that fact right there that they had it, it got requested by a filmmaker and then they lost it in between that. Those two facts, they lost the footage and the fuel kind of makes me agree with Bart
Starting point is 00:35:16 here. Like what? I know it's wild. It's so fun though. It's so fun. It is great. I mean, I'm not going to like hang my hat, my life on it. I'm not going to get into it. Conspiracy wise. I like don't have the time, but it is fun and.
Starting point is 00:35:33 It makes you think dude, it brings up some questions. Also, it's the number one conspiracy that really puts people off of just talking with you in general. If you're like, oh yeah, no, no, space. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, stop. Flat earth and chem trails are way worse. Lizard people, that's worse. QAnon, dude, there's a bunch of ones that are worse. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Moon landing is up there. Traditionally, it's up there. Yeah, I mean, the pedophile ring was also there until Epstein. And now it's like, yeah, yeah, a lot of perverts are trying to bang kids. So, you know, send them to the moon. Don't send them with an eight year old boy. That would be no, it's sitting with the dog right to the Van Allen belt and the little crisp up. Just zap them.
Starting point is 00:36:25 The dog can eat him. All right. Let's jump over to, um, trigonometry. God, we're going from one to one. This is good. For Francis Foster, Constantine Kissing. Um, these guys are great. I love these guys.
Starting point is 00:36:42 So smart. So this was a nine out of 10 podcast for me. Yes. It was a great podcast. Yeah, dude. Super nerds. Okay. I think they, they are happy to accept that. Super nerds. I want to play a clip. We need these people in our lives. I want to play a clip right now with Theo Vaughan meeting these guys.
Starting point is 00:37:01 And it's glorious. Look, we do a formal intro, alright? Let's just get it over with, alright? That's how we normally start our interviews, let's get it over with. Right, hello and welcome to Trigonometry. I'm Francis Foster. Oh, come on, dawg.
Starting point is 00:37:18 You gotta do better than that. I agree with you. Thank you. Sorry, man. I'm not trying to tell you what to do. You know what you're doing. But you gotta try Sorry, man. I'm not trying to tell you what to do. You know what you're doing. But you gotta try harder, bro.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Alright, start again. Alright. Hello and welcome to Trigonometry. I'm Francis Foster. I'm Constantine Kission. And this is a show for you if you want honest conversations with fascinating people. Our brilliant guest today is already taking the piss out of us.
Starting point is 00:37:45 It's the amazing American comedian Theo Von. Welcome to Trigonometry. You guys have, we call it autism. I don't know what you guys call it, bro, but we got it over here. Everybody's got it. Everybody's got it. Every celebrity has it when they have a movie coming out. Theo ruined them on that one.
Starting point is 00:38:05 And I love that. Called them autistic, which, you know, I don't know. It's like, it's a broad definition these days, but they are probably autistic. Theo is something. He's something or other. Yeah. Yeah. I think he has that thing that's called like Cianesis or something that they said, uh,
Starting point is 00:38:30 you know what that is? Oh, there we go. You nailed it. The, they said Shakespeare had, where he can like see, it's like you're tripping. Yeah. And you can hear taste and whatnot like that. Exactly. Like your senses are off one
Starting point is 00:38:47 and like you can make connections. Now I've had many conversations with Theo Vaughan at the Comedy Swirl, been lucky enough to do it and just shooting the shit and smoking Siggy's, you know, he was always like quitting smoking and willing to bum a smoke and knew that I had him like me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:07 And, uh, he would do that. He would take you on a journey like he does with this comedy where he just like goes down the rabbit hole real fast. And to him, it's normal. He's just there. It's like how he sees reality. Like it's different. And that's why it's so funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Special, but it's not autistic. It's better than that. Autism is like, is like, Hey, if you can like draw a cool map or tell me what day it was on my birthday, that's fine. You know, you can do some magic with it, but the rest of it is just kind of like a bit jolty and disruptive. It's a bad, it has a wide definition. Hmm. These guys are great. These guys are great.
Starting point is 00:39:53 And yeah, yeah, they got into it. So a few women are having children. That's a thing. Um, and you know, Francis isn't thinking about it. You know, he doesn't even have a lady right now. No, bless him. Or poor guy, a little too autistic, but he's famous. You would have thought you could like autism it up with some other ones. Right. Maybe, maybe he likes it like that. like autism it up with some other ones, right?
Starting point is 00:40:26 Maybe, maybe he likes it like that. I could see him liking his solitude. Bless him. All right. Yeah. But, um. He's had them before. Yeah, but Joe gave a good warning.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Like don't rush into it. Like if you're starting to get famous, like don't be tricked because if you get a hot one that's a complete cunt, then that's going to be a mess. Like, uh, like Joe's dear friend, Phil Hartman. Oh yeah. Yeah. And he, and he has other examples. He gave one on the show. I think he was still talking about someone from, um, the news radio that he doesn't like to, like say the guy's name, but like, I think it's someone on that show that got wrecked.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Yeah. Pre-naps everybody pre-naps pick the right-naps, pick the right one. Don't get her pregnant until you're ready. Until you're ready. Until you're ready. And then go ahead and just do it. Mm, yeah. Plant a live one in a young lady, as Joe says.
Starting point is 00:41:37 They talked about how AI is gonna change everything. Almost like down to the point of recording dreams. You know they have like a system now that can like potentially record your dreams. Yeah. So it can record them. Right. And so it started off with people just like thinking of giraffes and then they'd be like, think of giraffe and then think of something else and then go back to that. And then the AI be like, think of giraffe and then think of something else and then go back to that. And then the AI could recognize it.
Starting point is 00:42:07 And then it could like start to record thoughts in your mind that were like long play. So it would like give you a scenario of like, hey, you're a kid and you're on a horse and you ride through a thing, you know, through a woods. And then the AI can like see that, the maps the way that you thought about it, and then it can see in other people. And it's very similar. And now they think that they can map your dreams. So they could map them. And I don't think this is bad. I think this is great. I think this is really fun. This could be like a new element of therapy. They could map it, you know, and then like create like AI visuals, you know, just like a video of what you dreamt that night. And you could go over it and just discuss it,
Starting point is 00:43:05 look at it yourself. Like that can be wild. Somebody is, you know, it's, they would have a hard time showing my dreams I had last night in, uh, in therapy college. Oh wait, what happened? Let's talk about them. Best knock best knock it. Should we? Why? Let's talk about best knock best knock it should be it why let's anything weird what happened there there I was my buddy and I got a co-driving job as truck drivers it was him and me okay good friend Evan Evan and I all of a sudden the trucks were the size of skateboards and we were skateboarding these trucks around with a bunch of, like basically train cars
Starting point is 00:43:48 of freight behind us. You could pull them? This is not a problem. With our little skateboard truck, like little truck size of skateboards, and we were like going down hills, like grinding down hills, with like trucking along the United States.
Starting point is 00:44:05 And there was, it wasn't sexual. I hope you weren't thinking it was going to be a sexual dream. The fact that you even had to bring that up is like something we should talk about. But I'm not a dream analyst, so I don't give a fuck. But you felt totally normal just pulling all the cargo? Like you weren't like, how could we even pull this on a skateboard? It was a fun dream. It was one of those fun ones. Well, there we go. So if you had tequilas last night,
Starting point is 00:44:35 if you had AI, it could fucking make sense of that. Maybe. I hope so. Cause I sure can't. God bless. One too many tequila soda waters last night. They're called Papa Aguas. Oh yeah, Papa Aguas. Papa Aguas. So the Edinburgh Festival is getting closed down with censorship. England is getting pretty heavy on censorship.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Was that the OG? Do what? That was the, sorry, that was the OG Festival, if I'm correct. Oh yeah, yeah. That's the, sorry, that was the OG festival, if I'm correct. Oh yeah, yeah. That's the comedy festival, dude. So Auri Sophia goes out there, or used to. It's like the place you go for a month and really hone your craft. You know, it's just like pubs, bars, clubs, whatever you can get into venue wise and you just fucking go for
Starting point is 00:45:27 it and it's the whole city. No, I'd love to. But is that way? I thought that Edinburgh Festival was like in a field. Is that like their music festival? They have a huge music festival too, don't they? Probably. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Let's not get into it. Yeah, I don't know. So's not get into it. Yeah, I don't know. I don't. So they're cracking down on freedom over there. Well, I mean comedy if they think you're too, you know, fucking. Well, their whole hates their whole, all their speech. You, a person can get arrested in their home. That's crazy. Like not just, just regular people. For tweeting. You can't talk, crazy. Like not just, just regular people for tweeting. You can't talk for tweeting, for saying stuff to your, your mates at school. You can get, you can get in trouble. Wow.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Do you think that if I fly back to England to see my family, that they will listen to this podcast and be like, what did you say? I'm not saying yes. Am I? Oh, maybe They could. They could. I don't think we say a lot of weird stuff. We just talk about this at the when I get to the airport and be like, sorry about that. I did my best. They're like, well, are you, aren't you protected under American laws now? So if they get you, then we're coming for you, buddy. We're going to, we're going to bust you out of there. Yeah good We're gonna send the mini guns in be like
Starting point is 00:46:50 1776 yeah, they won't they won't come get me Pete. They're not Like I'll be there. Thanks. Thanks me and your wife. We're gonna bust you out of there I love that so free speech is a bit of a problem in the UK And that's that's kind of ongoing. And that's, that's a big part of where, you know, these guys come from in, and, you know, what they're pushing back against and good for them because, you know, it's hard to do in the place that is closing it down, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:22 It's almost like the Canadian podcasters that are also being like, Hey, this is bullshit, dude. And they're just cracking on. I don't see how anybody anywhere can support free speech because free speech makes people dumber. Excuse me. Lack of free speech makes people dumber. Excuse me. Lack of free speech makes people dumber. It makes people less equipped to deal with arguments. It makes it makes for a weak government. About nine people on average nine people a day.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Since 2017 have been arrested for free speech laws in the UK. That's nuts. That's crazy. Yeah. For what? Speaking. Tweaking, tweaking, tweeting, fucking saying the off color comments. Dude, Elon had a tweet the other day where he was annoyed at someone and showed a tea bagging tweet, a dog like tea bagging, right? And somebody underneath replied, did you buy Twitter for $44 billion just to send
Starting point is 00:48:40 tea bagging tweets? And he just put that 100 percent sign or the hundred sign under Like that is dude Is the most ball of thing that has ever been done? That tweet alone like the fact that this guy was like, oh I'll fucking show him and he just replies that it's like listen bitch. I'm that rich and Also, yeah, that's why that's what freedom of speech is you fucking bitch Yeah, I'm sure that guy was great desperately, but I doubt it. No, we're not but hilarious
Starting point is 00:49:23 fucking But no, they're not. But hilarious. Fucking unbelievable. I would love to get tweeted back at by Elon. That'd be awesome. Except for my show. Just be like, cool. New truck. Elon is like, I'm not going to. I have a million of these. I'm not going to say you got to say some smart shit.
Starting point is 00:49:37 You got on his radar. All right. So finishing up here with this one. So Nixon knew the CIA killed the Kennedy is what was said. And then immediately they brought out a reporter that was from maybe the military or something and immediately given like the biggest story ever and kind of fed it. Full access.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Yeah, to like take him down. Deep throat, right? Oh, did the fucking CIA, does the CIA run on government? So yeah, he was like a new journalist and he's like fresh out of school. And I think it was, wasn't it deep throat in the fucking garage that. Uh huh.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Yes. The CIA reps are, runs, runs our government, FBI, big money, the Bilderbergs, the tri tri lat trilateral coalition, big money runs our government, all those people. Damn. Nixon had to quit, because they were gonna kill him if he didn't. They were like, you saw what we did to this guy,
Starting point is 00:50:51 you better just quit, buster. Well, so supposedly Trump knows what happened with the Kennedy thing, and he goes, if you knew what I knew, you wouldn't release it either. And that's fucking wild, dude. Because Trump isn't a guy to keep his mouth shut. But even he understood that you don't say it.
Starting point is 00:51:20 So who the fuck is running this stuff? Let's spend the next three and a half hours on that. Guys, don't turn off the part. Let's go. Oh, let's see. It's aliens. What? So aliens. Are in charge of the nefarious humans that leak down to the Trump styles and he's like, I'm not even going there. Lizard people.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Michelle Obama. Bless her. So, so Hillary Clinton. Well, she's killing some people. I'll say it. Didn't, well, in Bill's autobiography, didn't he like kind of coyly mention that that moon landing didn't happen? Well, when?
Starting point is 00:52:14 This is on page 143. No, I don't want page, but he mentions. What'd he say? In the last, and Bart, this is from the previous guest but Bart and Joe were talking about how he Bill Clinton coyly mentions that oh those are those reporters can get you to believe whatever they want about the moon landing no shit so that's it just fucking we're stuck in this game, bro. We're stuck in this. I like it. I like it. It's fun. It's fun. It's fun to be there and and I'm glad we fucking,
Starting point is 00:52:55 you know, got a chance to talk about it this week. So my friend Jeffrey's got a nice airplane. Oh, he does. I bet it was nice. Anyway, love that. And thank you all for listening. As always, Pete, what a pleasure. And, um, yeah, tune in next week for more.

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