Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 383 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Tulsi Garbbard Et al.

Episode Date: May 9, 2024

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dead to Joe's walking dead. You're listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review. What a bizarre thing we've created. Now with your host, Adam Thorne. This might either be the worst podcast or the best one of all time. One, go. Enjoy the show. Hey, guys, and welcome to another episode of the Joe Rogan Experience Review. My name is Adam Adam joined by Peter.

How are you Pete? Hello everybody. I'm good Adam, how are you? Oh yeah, doing good man. Doing good. Trying to stay hydrated today. Hmm, I see. Did a long sauna session, wrecked me.

Fizzy water? Pellegrino bro, only the best. It's a bottle that's been in my fridge for probably a year. You just decided to switch to water after whiskey, I guess, right? Do what? You've just decided to switch to water. Oh, instead of having a whiskey during the party? Yeah. Well, I got jits tomorrow, so

if I did a whiskey now or a few, I'd be, jiu-jitsu would be a nightmare tomorrow. And I would just get squashed and then I would feel sad and then I would drive home feeling shame. You can't take it out on your wife after that. No, no. It's your fault. Yeah.

Come on. And I think, and you're probably like me, and if you have one, you have 10, and so one is- Well, it's easy during the pod to kinda have some fun and get into it. You know what I mean? And it's a good time for it. It's, you know. It's my time with you.

Well, yeah, we're just talking shit, having a whiskey. So- I'm having a beverage myself, so cheers to your water with my alcoholic water. There we go Oh white claw you classy bitch. It is amazing how popular that drink is. I Mean the money that they make if someone had come to me before they not that I know shit about investing or what the next Big idea is but somebody had come to me and said, okay, remember beer. Yeah, that is Somebody had come to me and said, okay, remember beer? Yeah, that is

Not gonna be cool soon and everyone's gonna be drinking basically bubbly water. That's alcoholic even the dudes. I would say I Don't think so, bro. That's a stupid idea Well, I'm pissed because for years in the Grand Canyon we were boating and working for the government, researching fish. On our off time, we were drinking fizzy water with vodka in there. You just slam a fizzy water down, you pop the top, it all foams out and what comes out, you refill with vodka. It's called amami water.

Oh. And we were drinking these things forever down there. And then boom, missed out on that wave. There we go. Although we invented it. We invented it, I guess. No, you didn't really. I mean, it was basically it's basically like a vodka soda. Yeah, but it's in the can.

So that's true. So they put a vodka soda in a can and then they gave it different flavors and they've made billions. It's like no one even really invented it. They repackaged something and squillions of dollars. Well, I guess that me saying that is like someone saying they invented drinking water out of a bottle. That's true.

They bottle water, so yeah. That's true. I don't know about investing either, do I? We don't know, we don't know. All right, who we got on Rogan this week? We got Christopher Dunn, an engineer that basically took a look at the pyramids and went, what's going on over here?

Like many people have, but he did it with engineering brains. So he gave a bit of a breakdown. And then good old Tulsi came on. Nice to see Tulsi back. She's the best. She's a, she's a, she's a, She's a hottie. She's a gal I'd like to see.

Well, she's a gal I'd like to see in more than one situation, but she's also a gal that I'd like to see in government, in a higher government seat. There we go. There we go, yeah, she's a badass. It would be interesting if Trump has her run. I wonder if that's worth doing.

I don't know what that looks like for Trump. I think that'd be a great idea. You think it would upset Republicans? Cause they'd be like, she used to be a Democrat. I hope it wouldn't because it seems like she just is kind of for the values of America, middle America, the military, the working class. Yeah, let's start with Tulsi then.

So we've got, you know, oh, so the federal government reclassifying marijuana to a class three, about fucking time. I thought they'd already done this, shows what I know. I'm not on the cutting edge of laws. What does class three even mean? What does that even mean? Yeah I think it was class class 3. So well not as bad you won't go to jail as I don't pay 20 bucks a month for

this slow ass. All right. The D a schedule all its schedule one. There we go. Not class one schedule. Well in England we call them like class a class B. So I just messed that up. My bad. Wrong country. And three is... So yeah, heroin, LSD, marijuana, mescaline, MDMA, psilocybin. Yeah. So there we go. Bath salts are on there. Quaaludes. Why even put a quaalude on that? They haven't been around since like the 80s. I guess keep them on. Gosh. Good old days.

Hey, Odie. That seems a bit much. Schedule one. All right. So schedule three. I've got it here. What we got? Codeine, ketamine, anabolic steroids, testosterone are just a few examples hmm but you can go to the doctor for testosterone yeah there you go schedule three all right so a

lot less jail time if you're slinging those i feel like i feel like psilocybin shouldn't be on there no codeine I mean that's pretty bad for you right cough syrup shit coding will Italian all with coding actually is the the description so Tylenol with codeine is pretty harmless but coding itself is a opioid so yeah and I could also see somebody getting really messed up on some psilocybin a lot It's cheap. They could take too many and be a I mean out of the mind so that might be right it's on one, but it doesn't it's so

helpful in many ways Yeah, I guess it might just be a dosage issue. I mean, if you just like accidentally fricking eat a few and then all of a sudden you're driving home, it's gonna be a tough, dangerous drive potentially. I mean, it can make crazy people crazier as well. You think so? Oh yeah, you get a guy who's drinks a lot, does any drug

Coming to him does a fistful of mushrooms and goes off his rocker. I've seen it. Yeah, that's a good point in the mirror Hold on hold on let me off allegedly Yeah, well Joe did talk about Who is the guy that wrote the book? Alex Berenson, I think. Yeah, he did like the Twitter book, but also one about the dangers of marijuana and taking it at a sensible time, when your brain has kind of developed. And I mean, that's a tough one to get kids to understand, especially high schoolers.

I mean, they're trying to explore and not listen to parents. So friends are doing it. They might get into it, but, um, yeah, I mean, I think, I think it's still pro marijuana to say it can be good for you. It has a place to, if you're mentally stable enough. And you know, your brain is developed and it's better than alcohol. But as a teenager, it might make you super fucking lazy and paranoid or something. Yeah, potentially schizophrenic. Yeah. It exacerbates all that.

But anyways, I'm for what they're up to, and I'm glad they did that, even though it's backed by big money. It's always crazy. I mean, Joe's brought it up so many times, that whole Reef of Madness video and the propaganda that went into it. And what was his name? William Hearst? Seymour Hearst?

William Randolph Hearst? Randolph Hearst. Yeah, so he, you know, he's the guy that owned the paper mills and was like, fuck this hemp bullshit. And just, I mean, that's power, dude. I mean, that's when newspaper propaganda must have been at its peak. It's the social media of its day. That's it. Changing the laws. Like imagine what a different world it would have been if he had gone into hemp farming. He would have somehow outlawed trees. He'd have been like they just fall on people and there's badges up there. Burn them

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restrictions apply. The pleasures of marijuana. We sold that to just the race. 80 years of being stoned. All of us, a whole different world. Paper madness, the cuts. So many cuts, so many. We band-aids in the world to cover up with those paper cuts. Yeah. So we'll see if it gets reclassified. Um, you know, and if it does, is it just one of those things that it's like, okay, it is for now until someone else gets all, but heard about it. And then they try and ban it. Um, I kind of felt like with the way states are going and how much money they're making from marijuana through taxes that I mean a lot of states are on board but the fact

that they're still this kind of push I mean it's recreationally legal in multiple states. We're in the tens maybe twenties. I don't know exactly. That's a lot. All the Western ones. Right. So that's a ton. Minus Utah. Yet federally it's still schedule one. Like, it's just absurd. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah, Tulsi was saying that you could have your CBD beverage and if a federal officer saw that they could confiscate it and they could get you for everything on it on that law so even though it's sold here if a game warden or FBI agent or somebody wanted to get me DEA ATF they could with CBD oh that's what she saying. I don't know if CBD is...

Or maybe it's THC, but she said whatever she was saying, it's like, yes, laws exist in the states, federally, you can get really the book thrown at you. Wow. From what I heard, you know, from what I remembered about the podcast. Well, Rogan even has a CBD drink. I think that's what she was talking about. Yeah. Rogan even has a CBD drink. I think that's what she was talking about. Yeah. Well, this is what I think is hilarious about the whole thing.

It's like Rogan will smoke weed on his podcast and it's not legal in Texas and everyone knows he's in Texas and he's like, I don't give a fuck. Shut up. You have to get to Rogan. You've got to go through four layers of goons. Navy Seals. Of big bad men good luck dude anyone that if anyone that could arrest or be sent to arrest

Rogan probably listens to Rogan so they would they wouldn't do it they'd be like I'm not doing it I'm not being the guy, not those liberal as ATF agents. You know what I'm saying? Good point. Come on, come on guys. Don't come after us please. We don't have any money. No, we don't. All right. Tick tock ban. Let's go over it. Uh, I've never used tick tock. People send me stuff and then I sometimes click the link thinking that I can at least see the video, but then you got to download the fucking app and I never have, I don't care. But I know it is very addictive and they're looking to ban it and it's because all,

unless China sells a big chunk of it or something to an American company, blah, blah, blah. And- In 180 days. Well, here's the bit that gets me right. I'm not into, um, China having all this spying capability over us. Right. Obviously it's a foreign nation, a foreign nation.

So that, you know, I don't want them being able to collect all this information and potentially also, you know, doing some sort of mass fricking hypnosis propaganda bullshit with us, which they could do, right? If they own that company and the algorithms, they could, they could fuck us up. Um, yeah. However, the fact that the other social media companies are like really excited about this and you know, because it's, um, competition ultimately for them. Um, you know, that's somewhat alarming because again, you know, Elon is the only guy saying this, this is fucked up. It's like people are getting your information anyway, you know, I don't think that Elon would even be,

is super pumped about China being able to get all this information, but he's like, if they can ban this social media, the government will eventually be able to ban any that they don't like. Like that, it's kind of like that type of slippery slope. So is it that the other social media companies have not really thought about this? I mean, you know, we know Facebook and Instagram, same company, they've

been in cahoots with our government for some time. You know, they've been working with the Biden administration to hide the Hunter Biden laptop stuff, you know, under the guise of it being Russian propaganda, which turned out it wasn't, it was a legit laptop with a bunch of fucked up shit on it. So yeah, they've been playing by the rules. So they're working well with them now. But until how long? You know, it's like, is this ultimately a freedom of speech type of question? like, is this ultimately a freedom of speech type of question? In a sense. And that's what Tulsi was saying. And if we got to draw our lines in the sand

about certain things as as as citizens, and I guess freedom of speech is a big one for the United States. We like it. Maybe we should try to preserve it. Yes. Because most countries haven't. And I think it's because we should try to preserve it. Yes. Because most countries haven't. And I think it's because it's easy to erode. It's really easy to misrepresent. That's how most countries have eroded it. You know, they're like, oh, hate speech. Get rid of it.

Nobody wants to say mean things. Well, who's deciding what's mean and what's not and what's just talking? And before you know it, no one can say say anything and you go to jail for tweeting and then it's like all right well hold on a second and you know if like it like in Scotland in the UK in general I believe that we've talked about this quite a bit mm-hmm but Scotland remember Braveheart when Mel Gibson was shouting freedom? Yeah. Doesn't seem like it's out there anymore.

That would be now considered a macroaggression. Oh, followed by violence. Well, he did like slash an Englishman across the face, I think. That's it right after he said it. That's why it would be. Yeah. Because they're like, that's violence. And you're like, no, no, no, I just wanted to be free.

And they're like, no, I think you're going to kill an Englishman right after that. I saw it in a movie. So you're going to kill him. Hey, there's a child's rhyme about it probably. Yeah, I got to go back and watch that movie. Classic. But yeah, we've got to be careful about the type of government control that

can just come in. I mean, look, let's be fair. They want to control everything. They would love that. They, people just want all the power and they're sure they're get it right. They're like, if it's in my hands and I have ultimate power, I'm sure it'd just be a much safer, happier place. And then I'm just like, hmm, doesn't usually doesn't seem to work out that way. Always. Joe is like Joe is saying, they're just people there. They're not magically smarter because they're in our government. They're like you've and their middle management people.

They're the worst kind of people to interact with. It's you know, sorry if you're in middle management, but. But you are just people and we stand by it. They're just people up there making you do what they think is the, quote unquote, right way to do it. Right. Yeah. It's that other thing.

Like some people telling some other people what they can and cannot do. And not in our watch. I don't like it. I Don't support it. I'm not for it Yeah I'm not for it man. Well that told she she's like the kind of gal I Would like to see in a higher position because of her intelligence Her patriotism she likes the United States Yeah, I think she would do good work that would be honorable, you know, nobody's perfect, but it's definitely the kind of

Politician I'd like to see and there would be real debates with her. She would talk about things, you know She would be open to talking and instead of just this closed off, you know, she would be open to talking and instead of just this closed off, you know. Nobody goes on vacation for the moments that are just okay. That's why Sunwing vacationers go all in like it's a buffet of fun. Whether you're skimming the treetops like Tarzan's long-lost twin or deep end swimming with your flippers and fins. Or maybe you're just perfecting the art of doing absolutely nothing. Whatever vacationer you are, with Sunwing, you save more so you can do more.

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And they've like given even the checkout person like all the questions and exactly what to say. And, you know, everything so orchestrated. I'm like a hundred percent. It's going to be like that on CNN too. You know, this isn't a real interview where they're just like throwing shit at him. It's going to be a bunch of softballs and. Exactly. He doesn't think on his toes.

He's not, he's not fresh enough. He doesn't have enough skin in the game. He's on his way out. Yeah. People work for what they feel connected to and he's so disconnected. And I'll argue that maybe all 81 year olds are disconnected from the world.

They're in their monk stage. They're in their time on the recliner stage. Yeah. There are definitely yeah few 80 year olds that are really lucidly crushing it I mean that's reasonable and they're in Japan everybody yeah the Japanese guys Japanese the Japanese guys they're just chain smoking and singing karaoke. Sharp sharp as a tack. Shrill, shrill karaoke.

Yeah. What did you think about? What did you think about the Maui fire stuff? I haven't really kind of kept up with that. I mean, it was big news for a while. Then it stopped and you know, people can't go back to their homes. And I guess the ground is kind of toxic because of all the burning, you know, blah, blah. It's like, what's what's happening over there?

What happened to all those people? Did they just put it in? They were displaced and there was two over 200 that were. Lost, right, or murdered or murdered, but yeah, lost. I don't know. I haven't kept that with it. What did Tulsi say about it? I didn't catch what she said about it. Well, you know, it's a mess.

The federal government didn't jump on it. There was some texts back and forth with one of the government guys over there that was supposed to be overseeing it, and he was kind of making jokes about it via text with one of his assistants, which was really pretty heartless and kind of gross. You know, it was just a giant fuck up of an emergency response.

And it always seems to go that way too. It's like whether it's Katrina or like many of these responses, it's like, don't we have plans in place and scenarios? It's like, Hey guys, just so you know, there's a giant fire in this part of California. This is what we do. Let's practice it. Let's set up some tents. Let's do the thing. It's almost like they just all get there and they're like, Oh, what do you think we should do? It's like it Don't we make plans for this shit? Um

Fima Responds with the Army Corps of Engineers to natural disasters on the American soil. Okay, and Fima is a government ran appointee. Remember when George Bush appointed somebody random to FEMA who had no leadership. We need some leadership there. Money flows out of the government so easily in many cases but in these cases, it seems like the amount of red tape

needed to get funds to these people is it's a it's a criminal. Yeah, it's criminal that the lady got $750 for fighting for her life, her house burning down, losing family members, she had $750. And I got $1,250 for for having to stay home at COVID. Yeah. For nothing. Right. I could have worked. I was, I never got COVID.

I know this is an anecdote. Of course. I'm I'm getting on one. I'm I'm passionate about this. The white clothes hit. I'm passionate. All these this mango makes me take my top off and talk crap about the government. Hmm. So it's always the off and talk crap about the government. Mm.

So it's always the mango. It's always the mango. But yeah, why, why not put them, why not put them immediately on, um, you know, whatever it was $700 a week or a thousand dollars a week or whatever. I mean, it's not like one time payment. It's not millions of people, right? Thousands. Yeah, it's thousands of people.

I don't think anyone would be upset about it. It's like, did your house burn down? Yes. Prove it. Here's my address. Here's my driver's license. You know, take a satellite image. Yep.

Looks like that house burned down. Here's your thousand dollars a week. And even that. Give him a hotel burned down is your thousand dollars a week. And even that. Give them a hotel, give them a thousand dollars a week. A week. I think that they got one time payments is the deal. I could be wrong, but they didn't get any money. It wasn't good. Yeah, you got to feel bad for it. And it's like easy to just not care about it because they're a long way away if you don't live there, but they're fucking American citizens

Whose houses burned down? By a laser from space allegedly Allegedly a directed energy beam and I can't say it's wrong Yeah, you got a blue roof. Isn't that part of the conspiracy? You got a blue roof because the laser like like, doesn't burn the blue houses. All the blue cars didn't get killed, burned and the blues survived. Is that could it be? Why?

What are we doing with lasers and burning Hawaii? I don't know. I don't know why we'd be bothered about that. It's hard to focus on that part of it because the response is even as egregious. Yeah. Well, there we go. That's Tulsi. God bless her.

And I am excited to see if, you know, Trump gives her the call. She's definitely holding out for it. I'm pretty sure the RFK did speak to her and she kind of held out. She's like, you know what? I'm just going to hang tight. I think I got a real shot over here and Trump's just being coy about it. He'd be wise. He would be a good move. He would be very wise.

I think it would be a good move. I could vote for her. Dude. Yeah. She definitely of the four people, assuming that Biden runs again with Kamala, like I guess he has to, right? Unless they have to pull the old switcheroo. Like people keep saying that, oh no, they're going to put someone else in last minute. And that's not going to work. They're not going to have enough time to feed the bullshit propaganda into making us want

to follow someone else. Oh, and if it's Gavin, we already know we don't like him. to feed the bullshit propaganda into making us want to follow someone else. Oh, and if it's Gavin, we already know we don't like him. That guy sucks. He's, I think he's a, I think he is, if there's only one lizard person, I think he's the lizard person. He's the guy. He made him. Yeah. And obviously that's a ridiculous conspiracy, but yeah, he is. He is that he's just so fake. He's just, he doesn't give a fuck about people.

I saw it in California during COVID. Like what was happening? He didn't care. He likes ZZPing though. He does. Yeah. He will clean up the city for that guy. He likes Trudeau. Oh God. Yeah. He will clean up the city for that guy. He likes Trudeau. Oh, God. Yeah. These are his friends. Anyway, we don't have to bang on about him, but

let's jump over to Christopher Dunn. Interesting, interesting, interesting. Now, yeah, so. He's written a few books about the pyramids basically What really gave him credibility in my eyes, which should in many is that his job early on? You know, he did like an entire career of top-notch engineering stuff where he would like top notch engineering stuff where he would like re reverse engineer, like how things were made. Somebody would bring him like a part or a thing for a machine and be like, all right, I need this made.

You got to figure out how they made it. Maybe we don't know. Maybe it's from a different company or they lost the schematics or whatever the reason would be. But we need to make this piece. So he's like, all right, well, let me figure out what metal it is, you know, what it's made of and you know, what tools I would need to cut it and how it would work to get this type of precision, blah, blah, blah. So he's a great person to analyze artifacts that we're unsure how they would be made, right? It seems to make sense.

Materials and materials. So when he went in and analyzed some granite cores that had been kind of cut out and he quickly realized, and this was his first attempt or bit of interest in looking at some of this ancient stuff, he realized that it couldn't have been made the way that archaeologists are saying it probably was. And then he realized, well, actually what archaeologists doing, because it's an interesting pursuit that one. Uh, and archaeology. Yeah.

And I think it was highlighted when Graham Hancock was talking to, what's that guy's name again? Dr. Dibble. Dibble. Yeah. Dr. Dibble, um, Dr. Dibble.

Is that, you know, they have to work with like geologists, they have to work with historians. They're really like a combination of a bunch of things. It's like they're looking at something, they maybe dig it up, but then they got to like send the bones to biologists. So they've got to send, and it's like, okay, well, who are the other people that you're speaking to?

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You know. Well, it's all, well, my takeaway from that was it's only recently that they've started actually working with engineers and people to reverse engineer the the artifacts and Before that if an engineer was talking about a piece They would have had to have an archaeologist on hand while it was excavated and walked them through the whole process Otherwise, it was discounted in archaeology. So when I heard him talk about that, he was saying that they are the gatekeepers to their stuff being held to a high standing. Right. So if these guys would say anything about these objects, archaeologists would say, well, we don't know when it was found. We don't know where it was found. We don't know under what circumstances or what layer. So therefore it is outside our data set. So they would just throw away the data basically. I see. That's called that's gatekeeping.

They've been gatekeeping. Findings, right, for years, and now it seems like they are having a fusion, more fusion now than ever. Yeah, they should. They should. Really, that's what I was hoping more would happen with Graham's stuff. But he's, he's had a whole life of being shit on by them. So he's pretty pissed off. And really, this is his voice and opportunity to say fuck you to those guys. So I kind of don't blame him to do that either. He's just tired of it and selling a lot of books. So who gives a shit? But, um, yeah,

I mean that that's what makes it slippery, right? Do you know if we've tried to like at least cut one block, like in the pyramids, one of those two tons stones and just see what it takes to just cut one and make it as precise. They've done a lot of cutting of blocks, they've done a lot of moving of really heavy blocks, people have done a lot of studying them over the years.

And there are ways to cut them and ways to move them, but they're not cutting the, what is it, the 17-ton block that's in the King's chamber. There are some, or 80 ton block, there are some very heavy blocks to be cut and moved. Yeah. Yeah. And you know what? All this stuff, it's hard to get the real data from and know who to trust like everything. Who do we trust about this stuff? Sure. Yeah, and the granite stuff is kind of wild to me because supposedly some of those pots are like it's from one piece and

You can like barely get your hand in the hole at the top yet It's like hollowed out and smooth inside and handles on the side. Yeah. Like what the fuck? Now what's brilliant about it is yeah. Once you make that thing, it's going to last basically all the generations. You can't fucking break it. It's still here. It's still here. Some of them are missing handles and chipped rims and all that, but that's true. But it's pretty tough. You'd have to give it a good go tough as it gets yeah you'd have to give it a good go and again it's like what are they scraping in there with stone tools you can't do that you can't you surely it has to be either

more granite or something harder than granite right you can't that's the only only it's the only way yeah it can't be anything softer impossible You're gonna have something that erodes at the same speed as it or slower. So you're gonna have to have something that is hard, like you said, same hardness or harder. It can't just be a thing that is kind of there. It can't just be another rock. It has to be the same or harder.

Right. The thing about that whole bit about loss technologies, he was, he goes on about quite a bit is the tools of measurement that are used to decide how this is symmetrical are as intricate as the objects being made. Like to make a computer, you have the computer finally, but there's so many tools involved with the computer that are specialized and unique and delicate that require their own technology tree to make. And we don't have those. We don't have the tools to make that. We don't have the tools and evidence in situ.

To say, oh, they made it with these and they measured it with these. Right. And that's the missing link here. You know, it's like they they would bury at least the pharaohs with like stuff like gold, bits of shit that they like. They'd even mummify some of the cats and put them in there. I mean, it wasn't like there aren't artifacts that are left. Chariots that have cool chariots in there? Yeah. Like nobody just put in that cool toolbox

that they use for shaping granite pots. That seems like something worth kinda just, you know, oh, I've laved with this for 40 years and now I'm dying. I want to be buried with it. I think it's cool. And then we're like, Oh, there we go. Look, they did it.

There's the machine. None of it. So we're just guessing. We're guessing. And that's what Glee and lends me to keep refer back to Graham is why aren't they working on that? Why aren't they more interested? That's not our problem.

That's their problem. That's the archaeologist problem. Why aren't they looking at it? Because they don't like guessing. And that's really what they're doing anyway. But they have to go with like the most reasonable, kinder sounding, plausible guess that also fits with the whole rest of the history of all the timelines that they have.

Like they were probably pissed off when they found Gobekli Tepe because they're like, fuck, this completely fucks our timeline. Oh, well, it was just Stone Age men that made this whole elaborate thing and then they buried it. It's like, yeah, they came together in the time after harvest and they were rich with food. So they had time to negatively car like carve this out of a stone block and have all these intricate osteological references and I know. Yeah. But then again, you even, you even ask that question and people like, Oh, this guy's probably a flatther. It's like, all right, easy, easy.

Not all conspiracy theories are the same. Okay. And this one is even that we're just asking questions. It's like, it looks weird. Now onto the big part of the pod, the power station hypothesis, like, you know, hmm, okay. I mean, it is a big fucking building for like two rooms. It does seem like what two rooms.

Now you've got to ask yourself, well, when did it stop working and why would anyone have not continued to maintain it? Like if this was a power station doing awesome stuff, wouldn't people want to keep it going? That's the very definition of a lost technology. The people that showed up there in the floodplain of the Nile were not the people that made that. They might be descended genetically, but they're not the people that made that. You would have thought somebody would have wrote it down.

They would have been like, hey, this is really important because this building isn't going anywhere. So I'm just going to write this down using a bunch of, you know, dogs and cats or whatever hieroglyphics is made of. So you'll know how it works. And no one did that. There were any hieroglyphics in the Great Pyramid of Giza There's none

They're scratched on with like at someone's fingernail on the the King sarcophagus there's it is poorly scratched lightly etched and Looks like your toddler did it. Oh, I see the late late Look at the the later pyramids and they are beautiful wall panels with full color and it's in soft, soft stone. The stuff in the pyramid of Giza is as hard as it gets, diorite, granite,

and it is unetched except for probably a lot later and they did their best with what they had and it's like little fingernail scratches. Ooh, interesting. So the people that got there, I don't think enough people that made it in my guess. You know, Joe has one of his early stand-up specials,

he talks about that, and it's like part of a joke where he's basically connecting what would happen if, like he's basically saying what would happen if, like he's basically saying what would happen if like the power went out. Well, for a day, be right, we'd sit around. Couple of days, maybe we'd go out into the street, meet up with the neighbors, what do we do now? And then within a couple of weeks, it's fucking chaos.

And he gave in like all through jokes, he gives like the example of like, maybe that's what happened with the pyramids.'s like you know eventually they just walk inside and they're like graffiting on the wall they're just like oh well just draw on this with our images that seem to have nothing to do with the construction of this thing we just talk about kings doing stuff. And all the other pyramids after the Great Pyramid of Giza are just shadows of a pyramid. There's three pyramids of Giza and there's a lot of other pyramids

that have been made after. But don't they know when those ones were made and like what do they were made for? Yeah, they have all these inscriptions, this is Khufu or whomever on here and they have those people, they find mummies and whatnot that haven't been raided by the people that live there. Right. But yeah, the the people that have been found are not in pyramids. They're in the Valley of the Kings miles away and they are hidden in

mounds and hills and they're disguised. They're not in pyramids. Oh, Tutankhamun wasn't in a pyramid? I have to really look at it again but it he was uh... he was in the valley kings below okay but they're still saying basically that these pyramids were a tomb and that's why they just had small rooms and that was it yet the primitive builder hypothesis i think is what he called it and that is what they think.

That's what, uh, high was Zaya high was the Egyptologists likes to, and his people say, right. They say that this was a tomb that was interred, a king and a queen, but they never found a body and they, they never found any bodies. All right. It's a lot of guessing. Yeah, well, I just wrote pyramid power station theory. Such unverified conjectures regarding pyramids are collectively known as pyramidology.

There is no scientific evidence that pyramid power exists. Okay. Well there isn't Pyramid power is such a loaded thing pyramid power. Yeah, sounds like Power Rangers episode where they will stack on top of each other I Know that they made a replica of the ark and It was too dangerous to to keep around so they had to destroy it it was like arcing and making crazy maybe look that up but it is had crazy power signatures and it was it was it was messing stuff up so they had to destroy it so why don't we make a little you know one quarter replica or

maybe one thirty second replica of the pyramid as it is, do our best to mirror it, figure it out because we're not curious enough. What is the deal? Yeah. Let's make a new one. Yeah. Or like just put a bunch of engineers on it and see what's up. Like see if they could look at it, you know, just a team and be like, all right, here's

the hypothesis. It was a machine. We don't know how it worked. How do you think it could work? And let's just have fun with it and see what's up. And figure it out. Yeah. And then, you know, if a few teams could be like, oh yeah, well, it probably does this.

And if this had boiling and this had power and this did this and that, then there's a bit of pressure here. And then boom, Bob's your uncle. You got a bunch of power. I like that. He did call out Elon about it. Yeah. I wonder what it would cost Elon to build another pyramid that size.

How many blocks? Two, 2 million. 2 million blocks. 2 million blocks, 2 tons each. Let's just put a price on a block. What do you think a block costs? To make a block out of the ground. 80 bucks. That no a 2 ton block for 80 bucks 80 bucks perfectly cut Good luck here. It's a couple of thousand dollars block. I would imagine. Yeah, he was talking about the progress So well, we always feel so there's a we just gather my thoughts for a second. These white clouds are hitting No, that mango here we go the Circle drills that bore diuretite granite were produced with a continuous turning. They were turning, turning, turning. They were not turning one way like a the bow saw and turning the other way. A bow saw has a bifurcated action that goes one way and then the next way. Okay. And you're

drilling one way and the next way. You're drilling clockwise and counterclockwise. These were drilled by using one way drill. So it was turning clockwise the whole time as it was drilling through the rock. And it progressed at a rate which cannot be replicated by our modern machining practices. Because it was like cutting in too quickly, right? Wasn't it?

It was cut, the one revolution was doing more downward than ours one revolution would do One revolution of art modern technology might go a hair's breadth Their technology was for one revolution revolution was doing multiple times that Down and he didn't have any idea how that could happen, right? He tried it with a copper tube with sand and he said he went for a week and he got two inches, I think he was saying. Oh wow.

Yeah, so it's just, it just cannot be replicated right now. That's wild. I mean, that's something important. Like you can't, you shouldn't just dismiss that. You shouldn't just be like, well, they probably did it like this. Well, they didn't. You can see.

Do it exactly like that. And until you figure it out, and they're like, well, that's not really our job. It is your job. Your job is to figure out the past, archeologists, to figure it out as accurately as you can, not just skip over and be like, oh, we've figured that out. So we're moving on. Too many, too many good questions there.

It's irresponsible. It's, it's a low brow. It's smooth brained to just dismiss any data that's outside of the norm. If there's data that you, if you're a diggin and you find something weird, that's a part of it and you gotta figure it out. Yeah. There's a lot of other stuff I didn't mention, like the shale that's been carved on a apparently on a lathe with two incredible accuracies. There's shale is a soft, fracturable stone. Mm hmm. But it's dense and there's like disks and weird stuff they've made down there and they can't figure it out

They don't and and people like the Egyptologists just I'm not sure what's the deal with them. What's the deal guys? What is going on? So shale, huh? Let's have a look a bit of that shale discs in Egypt They spell shale Stupid Stupid. I think it's S-H-A-L-E. Oh. This is good podcasting right here. There we go, yeah. We need a Jamie. Alright, so let's see. According to this theory, the significance of the disc can be recognized besides its unique form by the fact that it was placed in the center of the disc can be recognized besides its unique form by the

fact that it was placed in the center of a burial chamber and not Sabu's remains. Sure, Sabu disc. Okay, also that stuff is just in their grave. It doesn't mean it was made in their life. It could be an artifact from many centuries earlier. What could you do with that? It looks like a precision object. It looks like something was spinning for some reason and it was... Oh, like it's own cutting tool thing. Wow, yeah, that thing is wild. You guys should look up the shale disc. Huh, so shale is... It's like brittle, you're saying? It is quite brittle.

So maybe it was used like to resonate sound because it's all about the sound over there, they say. Okay. Says it's a vessel. Who knows? Royal Festival Jar is what they've decided it is. Maybe it's just for like a dope ass charcuterie. I can buy that. I'll eat meat off anything.

There we go, we solved it. Charcuterie board. Yeah, I don't envy the archeologists, honestly. I mean, you know, they like to be right, they like to be the guys that have all the answers, but I think even they sit around in the little archaeology groups dressed like Indiana Jones wannabes and probably start smoking some

weeds and they go off on their own theories. Like, we don't know really how any of this shit was made. Do you realize that? Like, they're supposed to be... I've worked with a lot of archaeologists and You know what they get paid by big oil companies and electrical companies, so I Don't see any guys working for themselves digging up stuff and writing papers like they used to Indy Yep See you Anna Jones in this bitch. I know right finding cool gold artifacts and yeah.

Picking them from the local populace. It's wild. I mean, you know, I'd love to have this guy back on, Rogan, you know, to take another deep dive. But at the end of the day, it's like, what does he come back on with? I think he shot his load. He's just like, this is what I got.

You know, I like his style. He was cool and chill and good on the podcast. But it's just so hard to have something definite. It's not like that we're constantly digging stuff up from there. If we were, if we could have access to it, I think the Egyptian government keeps good lock and key on that whole area and That's part of the problem is that the ground has been dug up for

3,000 years right the the layers of that stuff has all been gone over sold all the cool stuff is sold all the tombs have been raided and now he this this gentleman Christopher Dunn He's he's placed it in the hands of the people that it matters it to the Egyptians He's he wants to say I'm passing the torch. I did my work. I did my bit wrote three books. Yeah You guys it's your job now Yeah I did my bit wrote three books. Yeah, you guys it's your job now Yeah, well Rogan was trying to trying to get him to do a debate and he was like I'm not into this I'm not doing I get that he's an engineer

He takes tools and makes sense of his world with measurements and tries to replicate things that he's found that interest him He's doing he's did his part. Yeah, I don't blame him blesses bless him. I don't blame him I like to though it raises good questions. I mean, this is the second week in a row that Basically Rogan's had a controversial style Conspiracy s theory person on and I wonder if I wonder if that's like a new not a new angle he's done it before but he seems to be leaning into it again. And yeah, and I'm curious. I mean, this is what's fun about him becoming so undeniable and untouchable is like he gets

to do this, right? He's like, yeah, it's going to annoy some people, but they already call him the controversial podcast host, which is such a fucking loaded bullshit thing. He's the least controversial. Yeah. Yeah, you've got, what's the other one? Go Daddy, not Go Daddy, someone's daddy. That's like the other big podcast,

some chick talking about nonsense. It's like nobody refers to her as controversial. And it's like, yeah, because it's nonsense. She's just letting it up. It's just boring. And I'm like, that should be more controversial because it's just so bad. Asking questions and listening to answers is not controversial. No, come on.

It's not. And I love it. It's just called investigations. Nuts. All right. Well, that was it. Anything more that you want to throw him with Mr. Dunn there? No, I enjoy. I enjoyed these two pods a lot. I had I listened to these ones again. Honestly, it was good.

All right. Well, thanks, guys. Thanks for listening. We appreciate you as always. Those that made it to the end. And Pete, pleasure. But let's do this again next week I reckon we shall all right later guys