Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 388 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Tim Dillon Et al.

Episode Date: June 21, 2024

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Enjoy the show. Hey guys, and welcome to this episode of the Joe Rogan experience review. I am Adam and here is Peter. Hello, Adam. Good to see you. Good to see you brother. All right. Well we got, Oh, you got your Monaco in this week.

Is this one of those in depth analysis episodes that you're doing? All right. I really listened up on this one and I wanted to wear something fancy to showcase my, my studiousness. It makes sense. I mean, Tim Dillon is definitely somebody to really pay attention to. I've said it before.

I'll say it again. He's a national treasure. I don't know what that means. He's global treasure. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if that means that Nicolas Cage needs to save him from a thing in a part of a movie,

or if he just is protected by the Secret Service. But all of those things should happen. He's an hilarious dude. I think he's a genius level information gatherer. He's a genius, I think. Yeah, yeah. And you know, when people- It's hilarious.

When people say things like someone's a genius, I think they attach a lot to it. Like when people say, hell, Kanye's a genius. Yeah, but he also says some wild shit. It's like, yeah, I think geniuses do that Like a genius is supposed to be saying aren't geniuses really like the smartest insane people and that's okay It's my theory. Yeah, they're they're on another level and I'm not sure Kanye's Well, Kanye's definitely a genius when it comes to some stuff, but other times you're like that's a little bit

Our word. Yeah,, that's a little bit our word. Yeah, but that's what I mean. It doesn't mean that they know everything, right? Does every genius have to be Leonardo? Like he can do like 15 different things really well. Of course I'm saying that. Okay. We watched the bear movie. He won an Oscar. How good is he? Wait, the Wolf of Wall Street? I know the bear one. The cocaine bear. No, with Tom Hardy. No, where he was like eating in the woods by bear.

And then you don't remember. Oh, the Revenant. Yeah, Revenant. Come on. Also, all of the ones that you've said. I'm definitely not. I'm not a genius, by the way. But I mean, I think it's, I think it's like loaded when people say that it's like when Einstein often is quoted, you know, for his like really philosophical statements. Is that even necessary? Did we need that from him?

Does it make his philosophical arguments better just cause he was like really good at physics and math? Like not really. Yeah, that's what I just wanna hear. Just let him be good at one thing. I just wanna hear Neil deGrasse Tyson just talk about space stuff. Just stay in that area and I can respect you. But when you start like trying to science the whole gender ideology thing. You're relaxed. So, yeah, Einstein is same thing with Einstein.

Yeah. Yeah. And with Tim Dillon, just be hilarious and have a good grasp of the chaos in the world. And mostly everything he's saying is, you know, I don't want to say nonsense because it's not, I think he knows a lot about what's going on, but he's just winding up the conversation and it's fun. Right. I mean, they open up with like the world is really building up for some war somewhere. What are your thoughts on this, dude?

Let's be more friendly with them all. Let's get let's get let's get a volleyball team together and just hang out play some beach volleyball with those guys. It's chill Be friends. So what do you say? Just get like all the nations that we don't like that we want to go to war with put hot female volleyball teams together and Yes, whoever wins. We're like, alright We got to give you a little bit of land for this. Not a lot, but we give you a little bit and then some things here. But it's all down to volleyball.

Maybe we can make him some of those sand islands that the guys in Dubai make. We can make you one of those islands somewhere. Oh, make him some land. I mean, that's got to be better than a bunch of people dying. I don't know who comes up with the rules with us. We can. Yeah. We need a scene like in Michigan, like in Top Gun, when they're just the boys of summer playing and people are sweaty, greased up, high fiving,

getting along. Wouldn't that be hilarious if like the Olympic Games was how people got more like it, it took over war. It was just the Olympic Games and whoever wins more gold medals gets like an extra bit of land, an extra bit of like stuff, like all the type of shit that we try to get when we're like blowing each other up It's just all off who the best athletes are There'd be a lot of doping going on dude a lot of dope on doping. Yeah too much dope and maybe but

It seems pretty ideological let's just let's just stick with the reality that we've just got war. We gotta deal with that. We would just win those because we have all the tall people over here. Yeah, so it's not fair. It's not fair. But you know, we win most of the wars because we have all the bombs

and the fucking planes and stuff. So it's the same. That's true as well. Yeah, but this question of us gearing up for war is like, it seems like it's happening, dude. I don't know if you know any military people, but they are like real worried about China. They're not focusing on anything else right now. They're like, China's up to it.

And I'm just like, what? What? How? It's crazy because we rely on China's industrial complex so much. They make all of our medicine. Did you know that? I think they brought that up on this podcast.

Wait, all of it? Not all of it, but China makes a ton of our medicine. Damn. So, oops, that's not very cool. Let's be friends with them. Let's get more diplomacy less war. That's I've heard my political classes years ago that

War starts when diplomacy ends You need to be friends with these people Sound like a goddamn hippie Pete I'm sorry everybody. I'm on some ayahuasca. I knew it. That combination plus beats. That combination is dangerous. Going to have some weird toilet boils later. Yeah, it's I guess the question there is like, like you would think like on a local level, diplomacy always works right? If you think of your neighborhood or your friendships or your relationships, what do you think of

your neighbors? What do you think of your neighbors? What do you think of your neighbors? What do you think of your neighbors? What do you think of your neighbors? What do you think of your neighbors? What do you think of your neighbors? What do you think of your neighbors?

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diplomacy always works right. If you think of your neighborhood or your friendships or your relationships with your significant other, your kids, whatever, it's always diplomacy gets you further. Then maybe if you go into business like business dealerships, it's like does diplomacy because you don't know what the other guys doing, right? They take advantage of your like, friendly nature. And then does that expand exponentially out to nations to whether like, listen, the only way we can do this is occasionally go to war. And it's

like, it's in a perfect world. It sounds like diplomacy is great. But like, is that a naive thought to think that you can do this on a bigger scale? I guess it might be naive in my grasp of the whole thing. But also I think that we don't try that hard. I think there's like ideologies that are ingrained, you know, country to country. Oh, Russia's the enemy. Oh, China's the enemy.

And so they, and they only win power here by saying, oh, my opponent likes China. You know, it's like, well, maybe because he doesn't wanna go to war with the world. Right. It's bad. Well, I often he doesn't want to go to war with the world. Right. It's bad. Well, I often get over ourselves.

I often think that with Kim Jong-il, it's like, all right, you're obviously treating your people or some of them horribly, right? Is it like, that's all the reports that they got. They got like prison camps. Like it's, it's, it sounds like a disaster for a lot of people and it's like hey how about we give you some stuff and in return you like treat some of the people better and we get to observe it this podcast is brought to you by DraftKings. You better crack that AC because things are heating up at DraftKings Casino.

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we're just going to blow you up. And so that's what we do now, right? Basically. Well, I don't know what we do really. But is that is that the what is the better? This is where I think AI would be really good. They could just come in and be like, listen, this just doesn't work when you do it this way. So you just got to make their lives better and take the pressure off the person who's the dictator.

And then everyone's happier and then give them all water. It's like it doesn't seem like a good. Well, it doesn't seem like a good path to like keep putting sanctions on people and then ultimately attack them. I mean, not maybe for the dictator that sucks for sure, which is good because those guys suck, but the people underneath are like really having a hard time. It's almost like the only people that are affected by these terrible sanctions, like these strong sanctions, are the people like you and I, or the people like you and I in Russia or China.

They're the ones that suffer, not the million billionaires that are over there. Right. Yeah, it doesn't hurt those billionaires. It hurts mom and pa Kim Sung or or whatever, then, you know, common name is over there. Yeah, yeah. And they're like, it doesn't doesn't. Yeah, that potato shop or their rice shop or whatever

they're running, that is like their thing that they love to do. And they're just like, hey, I like making hats, just trying to make hats here and sell them. I'm a hat guy. And then all of a sudden the government comes in is like, give us your hats.

All actually take 13% of these hats. Well, North Korea is like, actually, all you can eat now is hats. And that's where they're at. Yeah, that North Korea is a whole nother whole nother beast. Yeah, but I feel like it's I feel like so isolated. I feel like it really has no solid allies that America could come in and just like make an example to the world of how you could improve a country and Just be like hey, we start some negotiations

We don't want you to shit all over your own people I mean, maybe they'd have to say that nicer because Kim Jong would be like no they all love me and they're happy and he's like All right guy. we've seen the documentaries however We're gonna give you some stuff And you're gonna be nicer to these people and we're gonna keep an eye on it and keep giving you some nice stuff Because you don't have shit and eventually

Maybe the world could take you seriously And also your people on the style of death. Yeah, they have like, I don't know if nowadays it's rampant, but they do have like survival cannibalism going on over there at some points in their history. Really? People getting too hungry, eating their children, eating street children.

There's no wild dogs over there. No cats running around. What pigeons? There's pigeons everywhere here. There's probably not that many pigeons over there because they eat the pigeons. They eat them all. They eat everything. Yeah. Well, did you see the thing with Kim Jong and Putin palling around? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They were like driving and came over. with Kim Jong and Putin palling around. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They were like.

Driving a car together. It was just like the interview movie with Franco. Oh, it was? And have you seen that movie? Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. The interview. It felt just like that. Really?

I saw a great meme today that was like, please let this be the sequel to dude who stole my car but with two You know dictators. I'm just like What do you think it takes so so Putin went to North Korea and he like gets in a car that Kim is like giving him No, I think that Putin gave it to him Oh, that's the only way it could be because he would have had to have that car checked out for like bombs

And who knows what else poison? Yeah Yeah, we would be really bad For like bombs and who knows what else poison Yeah Yeah, we would be really bad We would be really good at doing at this ambassador stuff But would also be really bad because we'd be so naive like this is my friend. I like this guy Oh, yeah, we we need the fucking worst dude. We think it was like a networking event and they would just be like You know hacking into our bank accounts. Well, all right, so he went over there, Putin did.

He gave Kim a car, call him Kim, Big K. And- Let's call him Big K, yeah. Big K. Special K. Special K. He gave him a car, He's driving around a track. It's obviously fun cars, probably bulletproof.

And not that North Koreans have any guns, but yeah, limo. And and why? Like, like these are the countries that like, what the fuck is North Korea going to do for Russia? Like, talk about bottom of the barrel. Well, you mentioned not them not having any really strong allies. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Allegedly. I don't want to ruin my chances of going on vacation in North Korea.

Did I just do it? Allegedly. Damn it. We did it. Yeah. Shit. No, no, we're fine. They'd be cool. You think they'd be cool with us all with them or we show up They what they do they I'm in they wouldn't be able to put it together that we do this podcast

You think that their intelligence agencies could figure that out? intelligence agencies could figure that out. Imagine if they did. We would have to we land them and they're like, oh, you do the fucking Joe Rogan experience review. And I'm like, I don't I'm a different Adam. And this is a different Pete. We don't. And then we're in a fucking camp. Use video. Yeah, thank God.

And then we're in a fucking camp. Good thing we don't have to use video. Yeah, thank God. Also, cause that hairdo... Well, it looks good now, but generally it's like... Dude, relax, dude. Alright, these headphones mess up my day. Okay? Hey, listen, those headphones don't cover up enough of that ginger hair.

Oh, bless. Well... Yeah, so he's winning over Kim, big K special K and, and for what it's like, does that just look cool for his country? Yeah. But what kind of team is that dude? I hate to say it, but it's like when you're picking your dodgeball team and you like pick the small little dude, like he's picked the last guy first. It's like what kind of team are you putting together? Well going back to our like diplomacy bit, I think there was a portion, you know, Kim really kind of hits, hits it on the head for me. That's, you know, let's just say that, hey, we're

not going to force NATO on you. You know, we're not going to encroach upon your territory borders. Let's talk about more land from you. Ukraine is like a failing state anyways. It's propped up by us. It's propped up by NATO. Though like the diplomacy could very easily work and it, I'm not gonna, and it has worked in the past. We don't need, we're making enemies in the United States of the world, we need to make friends. Or, I know, help them out. What if we just Americanized Korea somehow? North Korea somehow.

What if we South Korea, North Korea? I know we had, there was a huge war and everything, but what we need, what's it going to take? Do we need like air, air, airdrop strippers over there or something? Have they seen the Die Hard trilogy? That's a good point. That's a good point, actually.

Yeah. Like, have they seen all the best Arnold Schwarzenegger movies? Because I've got a feeling, like, they're so back in time that, like, Pac-Man is like a new game over there. So if we just started releasing, like, Rambo movies, Arnold movies,

and they're like, all right, I believe in the strength of this. Like, maybe we can flip them until they see Rocky four and then it's like up for them. Like they can decide which team they're on because I'm not lying. Like that that Russian was strong. Yeah, yeah. I wanted to be buds with with with all these. I'm just in a really good mood right now. All the Hiawaska.

Yeah, I love that. Hiawaska to get into me. But it's I have hope for the world. I don't think we're going to go to war. I pray to God's be that we're not going to go to war. Any more wars. Fucking more wars. No, we really haven't touched on China as well. It's like that's that's what like the our US military is most concerned about.

This Middle East stuff is like news and small potatoes for us. Yeah, and Russia Ukraine is like news and cost us money. But like we are straight up gearing up for us. Yeah, and Russia, Ukraine is like news and costs us money. But like we are straight up gearing up for China. And it's like, what is it? What does that even mean? I'm too dumb. And also, it's like, where do you what? What what are we doing with China? China just a couple of days ago was running its largest war game ever in the South China Sea around

Taiwan Yeah, they're gonna take those bitches out. I think ramp They rammed a ship and you know, and that's something that the United States cannot allow because that's where all of our high-tech processors come from a What and they cannot allow you say processes are got? high-tech processors come from. Oh, what? And they cannot allow- Did you say processors?

Yeah, our little processing chips. Oh, gotcha. All the like, all the high value intricate components are made in Taiwan. Damn. And we can't, it is like impossible for our government to allow that to fall into China's hands. So does that mean that's the center of like AI?

If you think about it, those are the chips. Those are the chips they use for AI, dude. Didn't you tell me about that one chip that is like equal to like 40 of the most high tech chips? Oh yeah, that's the new Nvidia chip. Yeah. Okay, so the Nvidia chips, what are those all about? Well, as far as I know, they have come up with a,

you know, some sort of chip that's like 30 times faster, you know, and it's very expensive. It's like 40 grand. Elon's bought a bunch of them. They're using them across the board for AI. And just like within the last few days, Nvidia has become the most expensive, I guess, most valuable company of all time. It just took over Microsoft oh my god yeah so that's why we can't allow 3.3 trillion I think or something that's why those I'm not sure

if they probably make them over there we cannot let those into anyone else's hands but anyone can buy those chips dude It's not like Nvidia is like we only sell to the US. You know, and how does it work? You just like the more chips you put together, the better your thing is. Seems like it makes sense. It's like surely we have the most money. The US has the most money.

We could get the most of those together. Do we? I know we owe the most money as well. Like our debt exceeds our ability to make that much. Like we're like $34 trillion in debt. How much is our GDP? That's a good point. It's gotta be quadrillions then.

Let's look it up. We need a math guy here. Come on All right. Let's look at GDP US GDP verse that US That See what it says. Come on Google. All right, the average GDP for a fiscal year, 2023, 26.97 trillion, which was less than the US debt. So that doesn't make any sense.

Well, but hold on, hold on. Remember, we're only paying interest on the debt and The interest on that is bigger than our GDP. No It can't be think about that No, it's it can't be higher Can't be higher than that dude, it's the almost the same number 26 and 33 I mean, it's a bit different but like there's there's an interest rate on the debt surely also we can't just pay it off make what is

the made interest rate on the debt that the US owns I'm asking chat GPT let's go all right it's looking up a site it's doing its math all right so it's like five percent eight five percent is that and you why is that better than what we have we have like seven point eight percent dude it's eight hundred and seventy billion for 2024. So if you're making 26.97, you're making 27 trillion and you're not even paying 1 trillion. Like is that even bad for a household? Think about it. So let's figure that out.

5% that would be okay, but we fucking pay as a... Never mind. Alright, hold on. Let me see how this is steamed up about the... Okay. Put that in terms of average household in the United States. Let's see what it says. I feel like that's a great question. Because as soon as it's like way worse

than the average household, then, okay, so. What is it saying here? Sorry, standby, I gotta make sense of chat GPT here. Excellent, excellent radio here. Yeah current cost per household So it's about 10% Ten percent of the income that doesn't make sense 27 trillion and 900 billion.

I don't know. I think chat's off. But look. They're not the best at math. Well, but here's the thing. Here's the thing that gets me is like economists and not, they know it looks bad, but nobody has like a forecast for like collapse.

And I'm surprised. I feel like smart economists would be like, there's a forecast for collapse. Like there's a point of no return and then you're fucked. And it's like, they're like, oh, it's like global warming. It just keeps like buffering itself. Somehow the oceans don't rise, even though we keep getting told that they are.

And forever I believed it. And I'm like, why are they in the same place? But now I guess that's not the thing that we need to worry about. It's other stuff. I'm like, okay, so when does this collapse? We don't have an answer. Well, we know it can and we know the reasons that past societies have collapsed like the Romans and like the

the Nazis of Germany when the money would became nothing. When the money when the money is worth when you have to print a million dollars for a loaf of bread that's when you know you're do that the Like Nazi inflation stuff was nuts. I'm that crazy. I went when I was of money do when I went to a I did my exchange in Germany when I lived in England. I was 13 so we did an exchange over there and we went to a museum and they had I think the highest note I saw was Was it a hundred million Deutsch marks or a hundred billion?

But they had printed that note and they and they put underneath that it could not buy a loaf of bread It's like they they were like spending so much money, even printing these higher notes that didn't even make any sense, that it was worth nothing. And what was nuts is while we were there, because like the Deutschmark was like, this is before the euro. This is like pre, you know, it was like 94. I was there when they still have the Deutschmark and like one of those notes would make you like multiple billionaire. And they're like, well, it's not a real note now. I'm like, it seems like it should be. Can we just grab that? Smash and grab.

Just go typical Brett. Oh Dude, I was just trying to do the math but like how nuts How nuts of these numbers that were they were almost getting too big to even think about Like they just hope for they hope nobody thinks about it But really? somebody yeah, they well you and me sometimes we we stumble upon the question, but The person you meet in everyday streets

Is they don't know they don't they can't they can't care about that. They can't know about that, dude I can't make sense of a trillion anything A trillion why do I have to pay half my money to the government in taxes and I and then I also pay $700 a month in health health care do they should do they should do numbers based on like acres of grass So that like we could actually Conceptualize it and be like what is a trillion? pieces of grass? And then like you're like, you hear the number and you're like, that's too many.

I don't like it. I'm not about it. How many pugs could I buy for that much money? It's not enough money, not enough pugs. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, look, they end the podcast talking about like the average American is making like $60,000 and housing prices are at a million dollars in California. The average house dude, they're, they're like three bedroom places, not even in, they're, they're like three bedroom places, not even in, they're just like regular spots, dude. You're not going to ever go home and be like, look at my fucking great place. You're like, I'm just living. Like, what does that mean for people?

There's a quote that said, I forget who said it, but it is you will. Oh, nothing and be happy. Maybe Bill Gates said that. Oh, no, no, dude. It was like that fucking UN dude. That's like a Franz Hans someone. A bad day. Yeah, he said you will own nothing and be happy.

And that's what the United States has become as far as housing. Yep. You owe nothing. Oh, nothing. And be happy and be happy. Like, what does that mean? Everything's rented your entire life. Like, literally, when does it get to a point where you're like your next generations

are born into debt? Like think about it. If governments had it that way, dude, there, if, if governments had it their way, the student loans are your parents, you would be born into that debt. They would do that. And I think that might be what's coming also I looked it up a trillion blades blades of grass 5,000 acres gosh dang and how many how big is an acre I live on an acre pretty big so that that's incredible amounts of unfathomable amounts of grass. Yeah. It's a big land, big land. That gives you a perspective, right? I mean, the other way to do it is like when Neil degrassi Tyson is talking about like

how many, um, sons there are in or or stars there on the whole universe or whatever. And he's like, take all the grains of sand. And it's like not even 1% type of numbers. Like it kind of puts it together. You just like, yeah, too fucking way, way too many. That's the stuff I want to hear him talk about All day, I like that stuff whatever. I like the transgender stuff Makes me it makes me laugh that an astrophysicist is talking about transgender stuff

I'm like, oh, this is a guy that thinks he knows everything. I like he's He's one of those guys, if you don't agree with him, you're an idiot, you know? In many ways, he's right. If you disagree with him on that, some stuff, you might be an idiot. But maybe, but I heard him talk about Terrence Howard and it wasn't the worst things. I was gonna check that out.

He seemed like fair. He seemed fair about his breakdown. I mean, he wasn't like, you're a fucking idiot. He was like, all right, let's look at this kind of peer review it and it doesn't like I'm seeing some holes in your game. What else you got? kind of peer review it and it doesn't like I'm seeing some holes in your game. What else you got? Yeah. I mean, he could have wrote another thing back to him and been like, what else?

Like, this is also what we got. Yeah, I have no strong opinions about Terrence Howard. Like I think I said on the pod that some stuff I have to recognize is beyond my pay grade and to, to intricate and over my, over my head to have an opinion on. That's true. That's true. Well, let's jump over to Rick Ross and let's finish the week out. So freeway Rick Ross is, you know, he was the crack and coke dealer back in the day. I think mostly coke, um, supported by the CIA. I think that's pretty well understood, which is fucking wild.

All right. Let's not forget. Let's not forget making a lot of money. Uh, he said, yeah, well, he said that like the most money he'd ever seen. It's like 200 bucks before he was making like 3 million at the beginning of every week. Didn't do a lot of drugs himself. He was kind of like, well, he's propped up by our government, so he was safe there and like destroying black communities.

God bless. I communities, God bless. I mean, not cool. Not cool. Not cool, dude. And- How can you look at yourself in the mirror? He's killed hundreds of thousands of people or he's affected lives, you know, it's nuts.

Yeah, it's not good, not good. But, and this is not an excuse, believe me, but coming off the back of the CIA, mostly supporting you through it. It's like he didn't know directly they were doing it, but they were doing it. So who really is the black, like, you know, we've got questions of like middle men in there. And you're like, what part of the fucking chain of command of action? You know, it's like the first people

that have the moral responsibility to look out for American citizens is the intelligence agency. So it was not during Reagan? I think so. Reagan, right? Yeah, it was Reagan. And from what I understand, and there's a clip on American Dad that describes this very eloquently and hilariously. So if anybody's really curious, look up American Dad, Rick Ross, or the CIA-funded Banana Republics in South America. Like, they used this money they

made from selling drugs to our citizens to buy guns for the Contra in Nicaragua to overthrow the government under Noriega. Is that General Noriega? Under the leadership of Ronald Reagan. So just another example of, no wonder why nobody trusts the government. The government's been doing terrible stuff to the world forever.

Right. We're gonna get canceled, aren't we? I mean, maybe. But we're just asking questions. Let's ask them these questions. It's hilarious, American Dad episode. Look it up. But it makes you think, though, right?

It's like, here's my question about these conspiracies that, that like, is the CIA or like these intelligence agencies just trying to like keep themselves alive under the umbrella of like the industrial military complex? Or are these moves actually like what keeps society going? And the third question is maybe no one knows, but people think that that's the best way to do it. Right. So kind of none of it's good, but it's just like, what, what are they up to? What, what are they up to?

It's, it's so disheartening and curious to me, like, like maybe, so we destabilize these countries for the, for the current times benefit. But now we're, we're seeing the fruits of our actions and all these nationless people down there, the Venezuelans, the Nicaraguans who live in absolute poverty, who've had elected leaders that were not good for the United States, so now they're coming over here. Maybe the reason why they're coming over and there's an open border is guilt. Maybe there's some guilt here in the United States in the higher-ups that say let them come in we did this to them I doubt that though. I don't think there's anything like guilt up there. No the powers that be

No, it's probably votes But I mean if there was guilt you would help stabilize the countries that you felt bad that you wrecked. And like, is it? I mean, look at it on a local level, right? You got a neighborhood. Imagine you just got a neighborhood, right? And you got the biggest house on the neighborhood. Do you want to keep shitting on all your neighbors

to make sure you have the biggest house? Or would you want them to have also really good lives so that they, I mean, don't get me wrong, you could support one neighbor that ends up also being a pain in the ass. But like, then you would have the support of all the other neighbors because you've helped prop them up and like make their lives better. You know?

And I do think that America has done a good job of doing that. Right? Like after World War Two, they could have like conquered most of many countries. They could have been like, Germany now belongs to us. They could have said that. They didn't do it. And they rebuilt it. And they did this. However, it's like the places where they have found disagreement, it's like, a found disagreement. It's like, you know, the problem with this question, Pete,

is like it comes back to like what's happening kinda in the Ukraine where we're just like funneling money in there. You know? It's like imagine if we funneled all this money to Ukraine, which we did anyway, ladies and gentlemen. Imagine if we did this before there was an attack on, um, from the Russians, like without war, imagine what they could have done. Yeah. Also, it's

one of the most corrupt countries in the world. So that would have been a bad move back then. Oh, no wonder why Biden was working for him. The kid, the son, the son. Allegedly. He definitely worked for a oil company over there. That's true. That's true. Yeah, I don't know, man. To do nothing.

To never show up to one board meeting. Yeah, but honestly, mate, if you had that job, would you show up to? Not if I was banging prostitutes and doing crack every 20 minutes That's what he that's that was how bad his problem was at one point 20 minutes Is one of his how good is crack? as freeway Rick Ross, I

Guess you could do you could do probably do coke every 20 minutes, right? I imagine crack is maybe a Multiplier better than coke like what like twice five times ten times better than the coke It hits your bloodstream right away. It goes right to your brain. Your brain loves it. There's no nose drying out. There's no.

I mean, you've got to ask yourself, how confident do you need to be to like record as much shit as he recorded? How dumb do you got to be as well? Dude, we, and you don't see any of that shit in the media. All right. All right. Question. Question. You know how they always say with presidents, like who you would have a beer with and like Bush always seemed like a cool guy to have a beer with. I think honestly, like a lot of the presidents would be cool to have a beer with. But like Trump definitely, even though he doesn't drink, that would be fun. But what about sons of presidents?

Would you rather have a beer with like Trump's son or Biden's son? Probably Trump's son. Really? Biden wouldn't even be looking at you. He'd be like on his phone. He'd be all cracked you. He'd be like on his phone. He'd be all cracked out. He'd be like, I'd get into prostitutes and crack with them. It would be a bad time.

Oh, so you just say morally for yourself. No, I don't like crackheads. I've spent a lot of time around people that use, abuse, I might say, you might say, and they only care about themselves. Yeah. That is a terrible, terrible way to live. I hadn't made my mind up on this, but I was like curious to, to like, I would like with them.

Yeah. I mean, if you showed up to Trump's kids hang out with crack, they're not doing it, dude. So you look like an asshole. You chop that stuff up. We'll sniff it like Americans. Yeah. And if you if but if you showed up the Biden's thing, they'd be like, all right, I'm into this. Let's be honest.

What's his name? Don J? Don Jr. He's probably done a fair amount of powdered stuff in his nose, right? You think so? Yeah. He's Trump's son. Yeah, but Trump is

fucking sober, dude. Yeah, but every rich guy you've ever met, their kids are like party animals. That's a good point. That's a good point. I think Trump would be very upset if he knew his kids did drugs. Yeah, it gets very strange that he just chose to be sober. Well, you know, he's got like, God bless him.

Yeah, exactly. And God bless anybody who chooses to just not do a thing because they know it's not for them. I support that. Yeah, but you're right. Now that you say that, it does not make me think that his kids would have not done it unless he is like really good in indoctrinating them in like, this is my path. Family values.

Yeah, like it could be done. Could be done. I'll tell you, I would have done whatever whenever with his daughter. Whatever she wants to do. I'm in. She is hot. She's a hottie. Okay, George Washington. I would definitely have a cider with George Washington. He's a hottie. OK, George Washington.

I would definitely have a starter with George Washington. He had a brewery. Oh, yeah. Solid. Let's see. Old Abe, old honest Abe. I would have slammed down some whiskey with that. He was a grappler. Really?

Yeah, he won like anybody he ever wrestled. He would throw him out of the ring. He was a monster. Oh, dude, He was like six foot He was basically like seven feet in those days yeah, he's basically like the longest human that ever existed no doubt and Fuck yeah Let's see who else well would not you know any roses of out? You know people used to get mad at his speeches

Like his legendary Lincoln speeches today like back used to get mad at his speeches, like his legendary Lincoln speeches today. Like back then, people got mad at him. They would travel from all over and they would get mad because they were so short. But like, written down, they they're just perfect. You know, he was a lawyer. People wanted ranantes, dude. Yeah, I think Trump actually was a guy that would have been right at home with those guys. Trump would have got right along with Sam Houston, Austin, those guys that like saved

the United States from the Mexicans in the Alamo. That's Trump guy. Those guys are Trump people. Oh, because they're wild. They're characters. They're like eccentric mountain men. Like they were hanging out with Native American women. They were they were partying with with people.

They were people of the people. Yeah, I honestly think, though, like it realistically, if I was to hang out with any president ever, it would be who is the Roosevelt? Like the first one had Teddy Roosevelt was a black belt in jujitsu. Dude, Teddy. It's gotta be Teddy. He used to box people in like box them. And then I guess someone like knocked him out hard and he learned jujitsu and like straight up learned jujitsu dude. Yeah. Yeah.

Tired of getting punched in the face. So he, I guess what he probably learned was catch wrestling, which is Yeah, no doubt. You're right, which is as good. It's not it's like each catch wrestler has their own style that like makes them successful. And that's why jiu jitsu is so successful because it's like a basic moves and your progression of moves you get to the you go from white belt to black belt and you have to learn it all. But catch lessers you could just be a really strong guy lose a ton no no learn all the moves and being a badass

I think that's kind of what he probably learned no they still do arm bars come what they do Kimura's they would like I gouge they would do all kinds of shit that Jesus, really? Maybe not like to the president, but yeah, they ain't doing it to Teddy. But dude, just just to think that like a president could like seriously fuck you up is like, it's pretty cool. Pretty interesting. You know, why did they have to be all nerds? They don't have to be. They didn't. No. Love this. All right.

Let's call this one. We can talk all night. I love this. Great episode. I enjoyed it. And thank you all for listening. Pete, as always, bro, great conversation. Hey, thanks for having me and I'll be back as long as you want me here.

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