Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 391 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Eric & Terrance Howard Et al.

Episode Date: July 13, 2024

Thanks to this weeks sponsors: Draft Kings www.draftkings.com Download the DraftKings Casino app NOW use Promo code JRER. New players get an instant deposit match up to ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS in casino credits when you deposit five dollars or more. That’s code JRER, only on DraftKings Casino. The crown is yours. Apple https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/draftkings-casino-real-money/id1462060332 Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.draftkings.casino&hl=en_US&gl=US&pli=1 Gambling problem? Call one eight hundred GAMBLER or visit w w w dot one eight hundred gambler dot net. In Connecticut, Help is available for problem gambling call eight eight eight seven eight nine seven seven seven seven or visit c c p g dot org. Please play responsibly. twenty one plus. Physically present in Connecticut, Michigan, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, West Virginia only. Void in Ontario. Eligibility and other restrictions apply. One per new customer. Must opt-in and make minimum five dollar deposit within seven days (one hundred sixty eight hours) of registering new account. Max. match one hundred dollars in casino credits which require one time play-thru within seven days (one hundred sixty eight hours). See terms at casino dot draftkings dot com slash new player offer twenty twenty four. This is an advertisement from BetterHelp therapy online. BetterHelp online therapy. GO TO https://www.betterhelp.com/JRER for 10% off your first month www.JREreview.com For all marketing questions and inquiries: [e-mail] This week we discuss Joe's podcast guests as always. Review Guest list: Eic Weinstein & Terrance Howard A portion of ALL our SPONSORSHIP proceeds goes to Justin Wren and his Fight for the Forgotten charity!! Go to Fight for the Forgotten to donate directly to this great cause. This commitment is for now and forever. They will ALWAYS get money as long as we run ads so we appreciate your support too as you listeners are the reason we can do this. Thanks! Stay safe.. Follow me on Instagram at www.instagram.com/joeroganexperiencereview Please email us here with any suggestions, comments and questions for future shows.. [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Make your nights unforgettable with American Express. Unmissable show coming up? Good news. We've got access to pre-sale tickets so you don't miss it. Meeting with friends before the show? We can book your reservation. And when you get to the main event, skip to the good bit using the card member entrance. Let's go seize the night. That's the powerful backing of American Express. Visit amex.ca slash ymx. Let's go seize the night. That's the powerful backing of American Express. Visit amex.ca slash ymx.

Benefits vary by card, other conditions apply. You are listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review Podcast. We find little nuggets, treasures, valuable pieces of gold in the Joe Rogan Experience Podcast and pass them on to you, perhaps expand a little bit. We are not associated with Joe Rogan in any way. Think of us as the talking dead to Joe's walking dead. You're listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review.

What a bizarre thing we've created. Now with your host, Adam Thorn. Might either be the worst podcast or the best one of all time. Two, one, go. Enjoy the show. All right guys, welcome to another episode of the JRE Review. I'm Adam, joined by Peter. Hello, Pete.

Good day. Good day, Adam. Good day. It is a good day. It is a good day. Nice, hot day. Lovely summer day. Now, this week, we have Eric Weinstein and Terrence Howard. A lot of people have

been waiting for this one. All right. Terrence made quite the commotion the last time he was on. A lot of people talking about what's happening. I got a bunch of messages from people being like, is he crazy? Does he know something? I think he knows something, dude. He might be a genius. Like a lot of people were not sure. You know, we had people. Either were we. Yeah, we had people on on both sides of it too. They were completely convinced he was right and other people completely convinced he was wrong. And I mean, it was just all over the place, but it made for good podcasting. I was into it. And the idea that Eric, uh, would come on and talk to him is really just brilliant. Cause Eric is, you know, an incredibly intelligent person.

Like there's the, it's very hard to dispute that fact. I mean, he is smart. to dispute that fact. I mean, he is smart. And I really feel like he did an incredible job being respectful, honestly. I mean, I think a lot of academics would have just immediately disregarded everything that Terrence was saying, or just like use some of the things he was saying to just shut down everything else.

Yeah, he was he I'd say he handled Terrence gently. He was he said this a couple of times that how great it was that he was interested in this stuff, how great it was that he was going for new areas. And let's just be honest with the fact that a lot of amazing discoveries in math and science and medicine have been discovered by amateurs. Right. So he really didn't just shut them down, like maybe someone was hoping for. But also he was pretty hard nosed

about the lines in the sand with this stuff. It's like, well, these proofs have been around for 70 years and you can't say they're wrong, man. Yeah. And because Terrence was trying to say, he has a new paradigm, he's a new fear of everything. He was a little bit arrogant in that way. Right, and Eric was really good at saying,

hey, hey, it's one thing to talk about it, but then now you're teaching us. Be careful that you're not talking down to the academics, in a sense, because that makes you easier to dismiss, you know, or just to like be frustrated by. And, you know, that was the thing. It's like, he doesn't have the language. He does get some of the words wrong, even if they're close. Even when he's using what he calls the metaphor,

which is one times one equals two stuff. It's like, he's like, that was a metaphor. And it's like, okay, but like, for what? Like you're just saying the math is wrong. Like, well, where else is it? And where are the proofs? Right. You know, where are the proofs?

You and I, as little as we know about most everything, we're going to, we want to at least see some proof here. Right. Yeah. And I think that's, that's the key, right? It's like, if you have a better version of math, you know, or an understanding, or maybe, maybe he's saying he doesn't have a better version. He's just saying the math we're using is wrong.

And that could be true, right? Maybe there are holes in the system that we have in front of us, right? Because if you look at calculus, there's things that happen in calculus. I remember learning it, and it's something called like the limit. And it's basically like, you know,

you have a graph, which is a function, and it's basically like you know you have a graph which is a function and XY coordinates and you can have more and then you know there's like a squiggly line that or just an arch that just kind of moves on from that. Kind of like it's all similar things so basically what you're doing is you're measuring the area underneath that line and you do it with these really thin rectangles that are just chopped up and then a new one goes in at each part of where that curve is different or just longer and the part of it where we kind of have to guess and why we call it the limit is because

Even though you're measuring most of the area all the way down of it where we kind of have to guess and why we call it the limit is because even though you're measuring most of the area all the way down to the X axis from the Y, the little bit of the top corners of the rectangle, you're not measuring because the line is curved. So basically we're like filling it in. So whatever answer you get is never exactly that answer. It's just really fucking close.

And it turns out that really fucking close answers work so well we can build nuclear bombs and we can build subs and we can get rockets in the space and it's using all of this. Exactly. We can figure out the trajectory of the moon. It's like, nothing is off enough to where most things don't work.

Now, does that mean that it's perfect? No, math isn't perfect. Does it mean that there could be a different system? Yes. But just saying it's not right and then not having like your own new system or like even an idea of how to make one. Where do you go from that? That's what I was hearing from him. And I don't want to disparage Terrence. I think he is very intelligent, right? He has a brain

for this. Like imagine where he would be if he had formal training from the get-go instead of becoming an actor. I mean, he'd probably be a fairly brilliant something. I mean, he's a thinker. I think maybe a physicist or a geometrists or where those two professions intersect. Right. I have hope for him.

He's almost 50 or he is 50 I have hopes for him that he is gonna become pretty interesting person is he already is but especially if he follows through it sounds like he's kind of like me where he's only interested in shit that he's interested in right so if he's not interested in it he's not gonna do. But maybe people like Eric can help him out. Right. Get him in the right direction. I mean, I don't know how far back he would have to go to like be able to make sense of a lot of complex work.

But maybe he could, maybe he could, you know, go into some sort of advanced mathematical course, maybe the graduate level, but he might be able to understand that much of it. Who knows really where his understanding is. It might be high. Where does he wanna go with it? And if he just kind of fills in the points with what he understands,

then he has a better chance of going in his own direction. I mean, the real test would be this, right? So he's kind of like leaning, he's doing patents and things, a better chance of going in his own direction. I mean the real test would be this, right? So he's kind of like leaning, he's doing patents and things, and you can't patent mathematics, but you can patent kind of like engineering stuff, you know? So he's kind of in that direction with like the drones and the VR things or whatever his patents are doing. And really what he would need to do is for them to give him a proof or an equation, say an equation, and then he solves it more accurately

with his new style of mathematics, that would be groundbreaking. And I think- Which we found out. Go on. I'm sorry. Which we found out through his conversation with Eric that it's not new, it's newish. It's like 70 years old.

The stuff that he's up to is been done. The symmetry, squaring the circle essentially, putting a circle, an extra circle, putting a circle, an extra circle, an extra circle, an extra circle, then drawing intersection lines where those bubbles connect, that is not new. We found out during this conversation. Right, yeah.

So, but you know, even with the shapes and things that he has, the geometry, making those drones. I mean, if he was able to engineer something that was like clearly better than anything our engineers could make. Like, you know, just some new type of battery technology or it's my point is if you're trying to make a statement, like you got it all wrong, there's a new system, here's what it actually should be statement like you got it all wrong, there's a new system, here's what it actually should be like, and this is all the stuff I figured out.

Are you a business owner or marketer looking to reach highly engaged podcast listeners just like you? Advertisecast can help. Whether you are looking to promote a national brand across Canada or a regional event or service, we've got you covered. Reach out today to Bob at AdvertiseCast.com. That's E-O-B at AdvertiseCast, as in podcast.com. Then put it to use. Like that's all you would need to do to persuade most people, I would imagine. You're like, oh, by the way, I made the most efficient battery that ever existed in the drone that is the fastest.

Or like an antenna or something that stuff uses repeating geometry all the time. We need more of that innovation. Right. Yeah. And I think what we've learned with this podcast is, teammates don't alienate your buddies. You need teammates here. So by saying that you're wrong and by having people not talking to you doesn't mean that you're right and they're wrong. It means science is about collaboration in many times.

Yeah. And I think it could be worth collaborating with With somebody that you know, it maybe isn't formally trained but might have some good ideas You just have to learn to communicate with them And I think that's what Eric was doing really well like taking the time to try and figure out What he's saying like what is the thing that you have discovered or made so that Eric can understand it enough to then say whether it's correct or something isn't working. And the whiskey that they were drinking was helping I

think too. It brought them together. That's the old mathematic talking juice. Yeah, there's a bell curve that it works very well between like two and four and possibly six drinks and then by eight to 10, you're fist fighting each other. So it's your best friends. Yeah. I hate you, bro. It drops off. There's what did he say? Okay. Well, who are the two blokes that discovered the double helix of DNA?

Do you remember those Watson and Crick? Did you hear yeah, they used to drink at a bar called the Eagle in Cambridge near the University and it's my favorite bar to go visit when I go to Cambridge because I'm a bit of a chemistry nerd and Did you like what he said about Rosalind Franklin and her opinion of those guys? Oh, yeah, they were dummies Bad bad scientists because they were they had a target that they were looking for. They had a double heel the double helix Shape that they were looking for in nature and they're looking for at the very smallest scales that we could look at with our DNA at that time. So they had a target that they were shooting arrows at and eventually they did find it. Whereas

that's not how science should work. Think about how tricky it is though, because really what they have is the measurements of the nucleic acids. And the way that they were all separated didn't, like if you look, like they knew how big each nucleic acid was and the distance from each other. But almost no way that they put them together could they like recreate those distances and they couldn't figure out what its shape was they were like this is impossible to figure out and then somehow they decided to make because there is nothing in nature that looks like a double helix really I mean I guess maybe

yeah no that's because that kind of gets larger. Or smaller, yeah. You know, or smaller. Yeah, depending on which way you're going. I guess probably the closest thing is like maybe some seeds on trees are kind of like that kind of little spirally shape. But anyway, it's just an unusual shape to work with when you're thinking of like biomechanics or cell molecular, very small things. And it almost looks artificial

because it's so perfect. That it's created by God, you know, or something, right? I mean, it's an unusually shaped thing. So, so yeah, once they kind of got it shaped like that, nobody believed them. And it's, it's why they want a Nobel Prize. I mean, making that leap between this, it was pretty unusual that they were able to put those measurements into that shape. So it was a big deal. It's almost like you could have given a lot of smart people this data and they weren't coming up with that shape. Like no one could figure this thing out.

Oh, it was my understanding that they had the shape in mind and went looking for it. It might be that. I don't know their whole story. I just know that people weren't coming up with that So that might actually be why? They figured it out. It was almost like their own built-in bias. They're like, hey, I'm I'm more of a double helix guy Let's see if these measurements line up and there's another table off to the left and they're like the triangle guys And there's another table with square guys and they're're like the triangle guys. And there's another table with square guys

and they're like, no, it's just not working for us. All right. You know what? I want to have a beer with you over there. A pint rather, please. Oh yeah. Over the Eagle, it's a great pub. You know what's cool about that pub too?

There's a wall in the pub. It's an old pub, right? It's all Cambridge. But There's a wall in the pub. It's an old pub, right? It's all Cambridge. But there's a wall in it that they've kind of like plexiglassed off. It's like, I think it's like a thousand years old or something from, and there's like writings on there from when it was, I don't know if it was like a tavern

then per se, but I'm pretty sure it might've been. But it was a structure that existed that's very, very old. So that's like an original part of the war. And then if you go into the back of that pub and it's, it's like a, an RAF pub. So it was where all the fighter pilots in world war two and they may have been one as well, but mostly two, because a lot of them would fly from Cambridge and then go down and shoot all the Nazis and their Spitfires and then back up to Cambridge. And you know, because life expectancy was so short, like these guys were living wild lives. They were just getting hammered in this pub, smoking a bunch of Siggy's

writing on the wall. So there's like so much writing on the wall from all these guys just being like, yeah, fucking shot two Germans down, see in a bit. Like it's wild, dude. It's a cool place. Cool place. Christmas, Christmas, right? Is that right?

A lot of shit going on. Yeah, yeah. Come on over. Yeah. Well, there we go. So what's in a crick? They're a bunch of, bunch of dummies, I guess, maybe drunk brits solved it. Just drunk brits.

The square root of two stuff was a big part of like his reasoning for like why math is all messed up. Eric was not feeling that at all. He kind of skipped, no, he didn't skip over it, but he kind of shut that down pretty quick. Yeah, they know that one times one is a strange multiplier, but they're not mystified by it anymore. I don't know what, yeah, he's just,

it's not a problemified by it anymore. I don't I don't know what the yeah, he's just they're just it's not a it's not a problem Mathematically for them right anymore, and then they didn't like zero either. He didn't like zero You can't zero can't multiply anything by no no you can multiply by zero, but you can't divide So it's like what's going on there? I? Need a bone up on my simple math. Right? Yeah. And the one thing that Eric said that I thought was really cool, though, is he's like, if you keep going down this road, Terrence,

you're going to see these patterns where everything starts to connect. And then it just gets like DMT. And yeah, it's almost like the, the real conspiracy theory friends that you get, like the longer they go for without anyone just kind of like kicking their ass back into reality, everything's connected. All of a sudden your computer's listening to you and it's all given off EMF arrays and electricity is getting in

there's plastic getting in your system and there's just some they they're always like oh they're doing it to you who's they it's like the fucking Illuminati's after a big big math is after you big math is coming coming on so I think what I took from that little, that phrase, have you ever, you've seen I Heart Huckabees, haven't you? I have, yeah. Way back in the day. Yep.

You know when there's a Dustin Hoffman starts talking about little bits and little bits and little bits, connected little bits and like this little bit to connect that little bit, and he goes quite crazy seemingly. And that's kind of what it felt like. You kind of have to get grounded in some part of this math.

Right. Yeah. I think Eric was trying to ground him a little bit. Yeah, because he would, he would just jump from one thing to the next and then talk about frequencies and like overlapping something with something else. And, and yeah, it got, it got pretty strange, but yeah. So he has his, he has his geometry, he has the shapes that he's making.

I don't know what he can do with that, where that goes, what the patterns are useful for. I think, you know, really, what is the next step? The next step, I think it only makes sense for him to... Focus. Well, to get a bit of formal training and see if he can like work with some mathematicians or physicists and come up with something.

If he came up with something really useful, I mean, it would open the door for him to have access to, God knows how many more people to kind of work. Well, the I said it before, geometry and math, geometry is math. And we use it every day with our cell phones, the way we fit small electronics into things and the way we like the way satellite dishes receive information and transmit information that is helpful. Metallic structures repeating symmetrically in a small amount of area that there is application here and it has been applied for the last 60 years.

But maybe as a better one. Maybe he does. I don't know yet. Yeah maybe he does. I certainly don't so hopefully he does. I'm all down for people to invent new cool shit that I get to use so my life is easier and then I can like tweet at people faster. Yes, I wanna play Mario 3 on my phone, so. My Super Mario 3? Super Mario 3 is my favorite one. Dude, you definitely can play that on a phone.

These phones are way more powerful than an NES. Are you kidding me? Dude, no. Of course, you can play like PlayStation 1 games on a smartphone. At least, dude. I'm busy. I got some stuff to do. I got to jog off early.

Dude, I'll tell you what a good Mario the Super Mario world Was a great Mario Cuz it was so big. Oh that was N64 right? No that was Super Nintendo Really? Yeah, that was the one that like. Super Nintendo not NES. Yeah, Super Nintendo. Exactly. Yeah, Super Nintendo With the top loading cartridge the one you blew it and then just jammed it in. Uh-huh. How? Uh-huh. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, Super Nintendo. With the top loading cartridge, when you blew it and then just jammed it in. Uh-huh. Pow. Uh-huh.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, and that would run on your phone too. Those games were tiny, super small memory games. They just look cool for us. Here I am just looking at Brazilian butt porn online.

There's a lot you can do with this phone dude. A lot you can do. Okay, I gotta branch out. Alright, so let's jump over to, well first off, kudos to Eric for being patient and being respectful. And also Terrence too, he didn't get frustrated, he wasn't a Dick. Like he was, he's a cool dude. I like him. I'd, I'd have a beer with that guy. Any day for sure. I want to get him back in the iron man. It sucked after he left. Yeah. That guy they had to replace him. Wasn't as good for sure.

Anyway, let's jump over to Jimmy Dore. What a legend. OG comedian, been around forever, found a voice, doing some political stuff, you know, recently, and is doing a great job with it. Like well informed. He has great rants. Obviously there's always the element of comedy that he can throw in if he so chooses, if he doesn't, then great. Because he can back it up with a bunch of, you know, facts and stories. And he's going hard. I think COVID really turned him off to a lot of what the Democrats are up to, kicking Bernie out, frustrated him a lot. I mean, you know, he's kind of disillusioned

with that system and he's here to talk some shit and I like it. I agree with him. I was such a Bernie bro. And then they, as David Chappelle says, the DNC swept kicked his feet out from underneath them. Yep. So fucked, dude. Then Hillary lost to Trump, and now we're in the world we are in now.

Wonder what would have happened. But I'm not sure. The more I learn about Bernie, the more I say, well, I guess I'm not a socialist after all. Yeah. I don't know I mean It's either way. It's just not democratic to do that, right? You shouldn't be heard free if if the people are saying hey, we like this guy more Then tough. Sorry. You can't control him as well get better at controlling politicians then If that's the important that oh Oh my god that's what they fucking excel at. Dude this is why they're terrified of Trump getting in because he ain't listening to the

moment he thinks that someone is trying to force you know it's like freaking bowing in there just telling him what to do he'd be be like, get the fuck out of my office. I'm playing golf later. I'm eating KFC. I'm eating KFC. I'm playing Mario 3. My boy Pete over here. Come on, Pete.

He would. He would just be hanging out with a bro. They're like, how? Why are you in the White House again? Kanye. And he's like, I'm just just rapping i'm over here rapping with my boy Frickin donald d trump Donald jamericoi trump, oh he'd look great in a jamericoi hat Fuzzy a fuzzy top hat. Oh bless him. Uh. He's pretty funny, dude. I don't know if you saw when he hosted SNL and he did that Drake song, call me on the telephone.

But it was just like him dancing and like it was good. It was funny, dude. Yeah. Like, I don't know. She used to call me on the red phone. So let's go back to, let's talk about like the hot topic right now, where everyone's struggling with Biden, the debates, the total debacle. And now he's gone to the United Nations that he just got back from during that he introduced President

Zelensky as Putin, which was a total disaster. He said to some other politician that he'd like fucked his wife or something. What? Yeah, dude. But it was he didn't obviously mean it. He just like stumbled so bad. He was like, Oh, fuck your wife. And then like, it was bad, dude. It was really ugly. And then somebody asked him about, you know, is Kamala Harris capable, you know, of being president, you know, and what he wanted to say is like, I wouldn't have picked Kamala as my vice if I didn't think she was ready to be president. Well, all of that is bullshit,

because guaranteed he picked her because he thought it would just make him look super woke and get some more votes. Like nobody was really ever counting on her being the president because she seems like a huge dope to me. Room temperature IQ. But what he actually said was, oh, vice president Trump. And like the whole thing was a total disaster, dude. Oh, that was at his press or his big boy press conference that they termed it the big boy press conference

What is all that about? Who they just want him to lose like what is going on? Do you think that that's what they're doing? They're like setting him up to lose. I'm surprised, but here's the thing this close to the election I'm surprised that the media isn't in like, you know, nuclear bunker stage four kind of absolute

freak out about completely crushing all these stories, like not playing any of them, hiding everything, keeping Biden just like in his bedroom. Like but but they're not they're all over him too. It's almost like all of a sudden all of them together were like, nah, he's done. Get him out.

The dam has burst. You and I have been saying for a while he's been gaffing and has obvious signs of pretty aggressive dementia potentially or just he's pushing 81 right or 79, forget, but he is not well. That's just clear. So they've been lying this whole time for him and now they have egg on their face because the whole nation can see that they've been lying. And now they're saying the media has been saying, we didn't know. They didn't tell us. It's like, well, we all kind of knew. Yeah, we know.

Just another way. This is another piece of evidence that backs up the fact that the media is in the pocket of the left. And they're not doing him any any favors and they they were but now they're not yeah they were working really hard for him and now nothing so i think it really highlights that they are massive liars like if you weren't sure if liberal media and i'm not saying republican media isn't lying as well, but like we are just looking at the one thing now, which is liberal media. They have been making Biden look great for a long time. And most people could see that he wasn't doing great. He was struggling and

shouldn't be in that job. And now all of a sudden they've just decided that, oh yeah, he, he isn't good anymore. And you know, they're saying, oh, no, we all just noticed because of the debates. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. Something somewhere was like, okay, now is time and now go for it. And for the first time you're actually hearing them say things that make sense and are true is truthful.

Like, yeah, he isn't doing well. He shouldn't be talking. Poor guy. Yeah, he's ill. It's not cool. He had a run. He had, he had a long run. I wouldn't say it's a good run, but he had a long run.

He did it. He was running a long time. He was, he was speed walking. He did it. He was running a long time. He was he was speed walking. He was speed walking For a couple of marathons worth of distance. Did he go the right direction? Did he get lost? Did he maybe cheat along the way? Did he get an uber at any point? Did he live both legs up at the same time?

Speed walking rules. That's called a wheelchair wheelchair. Yeah, there's was that thing that did he cut through a field? Was that were there were there paddocks involved? Did he get on a raft? And go down on a raft and go down a slow river but yeah he's been at Paul Tink since he was 29 that's insane did you remember when Joe was saying that they used to have Joe Biden night back in the 90s oh yeah and it was and it was back in Boston and

it was a night where you would do someone else's act. You would do that whole act because it was plagiarism because he was known as stealing people's speeches and life stories. Yeah it was before Google so people couldn't really check up on it. He would just take other speeches that he liked that he heard and when he goes to little towns and they're asking him he's like I was the greatest lawyer ever I went to nine law schools I got 14 degrees and now it's you know 2024 we're like no you didn't bro you did I drove I drove a long-haul trucking route back in the 90s just say what I owned an ice cream factory. No, you didn't.

You didn't know. There's just a eight in the back, just shaking his head. Like, nah, don't worry about me. He's kidding. It's a joke. It's a colloquialism. Yeah. So yeah, this whole thing during the debate, like, Oh, he may have fucked up a lot of things and not answered a lot of questions, but at least he didn't lie the whole time. Like Trump, I'm like, oh, he may have fucked up a lot of things and not answered a lot of questions, but at least he didn't lie the whole time. Like Trump, I'm like, he was lying too. He was lying too. He is a liar.

He's been caught lying a bunch. They all seem to be liars. Very few of them are very honest, truth telling humans when it comes to, um, the truth tellers don't get in office. No. Well, they don't stay in for long. That's Tulsi Gabba was out right away, you know, but then you've got Nancy Pelosi who's like, looks like death warmed up with makeup on and they're just like, Hey, what's the deal with your insider trading? And she's like, absolutely ridiculous.

Nothing. This meeting is over. I have to leave now. I have to go. I have to adjust the mic and walk away. And it's like, really? You just made another like $500 million or some bullshit outrageous, dude. I don't know what to think, but yeah, these gaffes,

the press have turned on him. You're like, we were saying before this, it's four months, dude, four months to November, unless I'm dumb. What is it? August, September, October, November. Yeah. Four months. What are they going to do? I'd be curious to know about the listeners. If they have a prediction about who could replace him successfully. I'd like to know. Yeah. Anybody for me listening wants to give their two cents. And we would, we'd like to hear that. Yeah. DM the Instagram,

Jerry review or, um, yeah, just email us. There's a email in the, in the the description email us and let us know what you think who's gonna take over Who's gonna want to take over? right Yeah, we need all the help we can get I just want this country to function I'm I'm neither right nor left anymore. It is an IQ test to me if someone's passionately for Politicians it's like that is just yeah, the slogan shouldn't be make America great again. It should be make stuff cheap again. I Want to I want to afford a house? Yeah make houses cheap again. That would be pretty freaking good What did you know about the cares act?

Jimmy was talking about the cares act that was part of like the bailout and not bailout money, but it was like the COVID relief money, the PPE loans. I mean, was that whole program just like full of, I mean, it probably drove our national debt through the roof. No doubt. I know a lot of fuckery happened with those PPE loans. No doubt. I know a lot of fuckery happened with those PPE loans. I heard something like in California is much as $30 billion was basically stolen as fraud during the COVID stuff.

And because of how quickly and recklessly it was given away, they, they like can't find this. That makes me think the people that are tasked with finding it were part of the crew that took that money. They paid, oh, they got paid. It's 30 billion dollars is so much money. The thread of the conversation seemed to be vaccine production was subsidized by us. We paid for their research to make the vaccine. They pushed

it through because you know you can't have a new FDA approved drug unless unless there's nothing else on the market that could treat this. Well, guess Ivermectin was a pretty good treatment, but let's not go there. So they shit on that and they pushed through this new experimental drug and then the CARES Act seemed to be right down the pipe. It seemed to be right down the pipe. The money started with Fauci's and his gain of function research and it went right down to the big businesses that applied for this Care Act and got millions of dollars. The money just rolled down for the American people. Rather, it rolled up to the wealthy class. They jipped us. We should all get shares of those dividends. If we helped fund that research

We should get dividends for that for the vaccine profits Yeah Have you ever heard the stat about if you didn't put you know the money you pay in the Social Security? If you didn't if all of that was taken out by the government and put into regular like stocks You know or like an index fund, we'd all have enough to retire. We wouldn't even need this like shitty, tiny amount of money that they end up giving us at the end of our lives that we probably won't get anyway.

Like they've been, they've been saying this since we were in high school in the nineties that we're not going to get our own social security because it's like literally bankrupting itself But yeah, it's subsidized and it is it is a socialist It has no pool to draw from anymore Yeah, it's well through redistribution redistribution on a Idiotic level it is It would be better if they just held it and then gave it back to us redistribution on a idiotic level.

It is, it would be better if they just held it and then gave it back to us. Right. Yeah. Way better, but. Nuts. I don't know. I don't know. I am getting all worked up over here, Adam.

Dude, well, we should because these things are like, if they could easily do that and the government is here to like, keep us safe, right? Keep look after us. All right. They're the big daddy. They're like, they make the rules and it keeps things safe and then they protect us with the police and then we pay little bits for stuff, but then we have all this

nice shit it's like, yeah, they're doing all that. But also, like, hey, help us out. You know, subsidize something useful. Stop giving our money away. Could given accidentally 6 billion to the Ukraine, one of the most corrupt countries on planet Earth. I'm not saying that we shouldn't fight the war, they shouldn't fight the war over there. Who needs to be held in check. No, but I mean, the UN is like not wanting to let them in because of how corrupt they are. And I'm like, we've been pouring money into their country.

Pouring it in. Do you think that they have amazing checks and balances for where this is all going? Of course not. And no one questioned it. No one was questioning it, dude. That's so absurd. It's still not.

They're still not questioning it. And what do they give? Like $700 to the people in Hawaii that houses burnt down? Oh, come on. It's like 700 bucks. I mean, but here you go, his 6 billion. And oh, sorry, we weren't meant to send that, but now since you have it anyway, it's a bit of a headache to get it back.

We're just like, that can be part of the next bit of money that we're giving you. You just take that too. We're talking about fucking billions here, dude. That's quite a lot different. Six, they throw it away. Yeah. It's what was this stuff about the. There were many peace agreements on the table. With Putin. Oh, yeah.

And Zelensky that were just tossed aside by either us or the Ukraine over and over. The Donbass Accord, I didn't know about that. And they had many peace agreements that were on the table before Putin invaded. Russia does not need to get any bigger. Let them, they can do whatever they're doing in Russia, keep Putin there, but we got to play diplomacy here. We got to be diplomatic. He's a world player. Yeah, he's got nukes and shit. Diplomacy has failed and... Well, it's because, I mean Putin, you think Putin and Biden even had one phone call it's like the rest of the world aren't people like Putin are

respecting Biden for a second like no he's been a joke for 50 years exactly and on the world stage now I mean especially after NATO they're probably wondering how the fuck America even exists. Like what? I mean, we're supposed to have a leader that portrays strength, displays it. Like you are strength, even if it's a bit fricking narcissistic. Like you got to get up there, look strong, be stoic. You can't start staring into space and forget which way to go and then shake an invisible

person's hand and then introduce Putin to the stage when clearly he's not at NATO, is he? My God, dude. Absolute train wreck. It's an absolute train wreck. And to be honest, it's a train wreck that like clearly, in my mind, clearly this was happening as soon as he got into power. Even when he was running for this position to beat Trump, I was like, I think there's something wrong with his mind. And everyone's like, he has a stutter, he's fine. He's doing great.

I'm like, I don't think so. I think by the end of his term, we're gonna realize that most of the years he was in office, he wasn't capable of doing this job. We should not let a senile person or someone who is becoming pretty senile Do a job like this. That's a lot of pressure and that's kind of unfair And it also points and raises the question who really is in charge because it has not been him

It is obviously his cabinet and uh, obviously his cabinet and, um, the, uh, the queen Harpy herself, the best doctor in the world, dr. Jill Biden. She's a doctor. Oh, edgy of education. Oh, okay. Oh God, please. You know what's hilarious?

They're the ones that make you go, I'm actually doctor so-and-so. And I'm like, oh really? Of sociology? Relax. What's this on my arm then? What's that? Yeah. Is it a rash? Right.

Take a look at this, which is Dak. Look, I know I don't tell you about skin disorders. I'd tell you which pronouns to use in class. Exactly, yeah. I mean, look, it sounds rude to say, but there's really only one type of doctor that I acknowledge and they're the ones that like have a, you know, an MD. Exactly. Yeah. The others are just like, Oh, all right, dude. What are you a professor? Like what you work at a school like stuff. History, Doctor of history. Doctor of history.

I would net. I just can't imagine calling someone doctor that isn't an MD. I am my chiropractor. I call him doc. Well, he's probably whatever he he's works. He manipulates the physical body to me close enough, right? Yeah, he healed you to me. It's close enough MD Dio that could break your arm and then yeah my chiropractors one of the best jujitsu guys that I've ever met

So he's he's alleged call him whatever you he wants you to call him. Yeah, sir Doctor Emperor now, he's great. He's great. Super nice. Esquire. But yeah, the rest of them are just like, oh, please. I mean, even as a therapist, like I'm finishing up school, most of my professors are doctors.

So they got a doctorate, not even in psychology. They don't even have a psychology PhD. They have a mental health degree, so your behavioral health or it's mental health probably, therapy. And instead of finishing at master's, which is all you need to be a therapist, plus all your hours and the license, they just went and got a PhD. And it's like, what? So they never practiced potentially or they... Oh no, they have and they do. But I think that they either really liked academia or

it doesn't really make you worth more, but it definitely would get you a job in a university if you wanted to teach. So I think it's think it's like it's part of that. Um, and they have done more education. I'm not taking anything away from the educational level of people with PhDs that are doctors. I'm just not calling you a doctor. I'm just going to be like, okay, Susan, stop Fred. Yeah. It's, it's Susan, isn't it? Mrs. Whatever. Uh, my pronouns are Zim Zay Zers, please. Yeah, it's it's it's Susan, isn't it? Mrs. Whatever. Uh, my pronouns are Zim Zay Zers, please. Yeah. I'm sorry about the pronoun stuff. I'm sorry. I'll leave it alone. One of my professors in my, my last like, um,

courses that I took, we have this, uh, it's just like a long intensive over a weekend. So they, it's like three or four days. And then they put you with a bunch of people from these different classes to do this type of practicum. And then you run through scenarios where they're like team you up and you have to do therapy for like one of the other classmates. And they come up with scenarios and you just kind of go through it. But, uh,

the professor there, he was like, okay, so a couple of rules, like I'm pretty chill. And he was, he was like, okay, so a couple of rules, like I'm pretty chill. And he was, he was a great guy actually. And he was just like, no nonsense too. He'd done it forever. So he was just like, look, just relax. We'll all get through this. Everything's gonna be great.

I'm not here to fail anyone. Everyone chill out. Like he was cool. So, and he was like, yeah, just so you know how to introduce yourself and like speak to me, you know, you can call me doctor so-and-so, um, and his name is Bob. He's a doctor so-and-so, or you can call me Bob. Just don't call me Mr. So-and-so, like I don't like that.

I don't like Mr. Okay. And then people would all talk to him and they're like, okay, Dr. So-and-so, Dr. and he got to me and I was like, all right, Bob, so where are we in this? I respect you enough to not call you Mr. If you don't like that, that's fine. I don't like people calling me Mr. Thorn. Like get out of here. That sounds pretty cool though. Yeah, but I just don't need it.

I don't want that. You know, listen, Bob, Bob, let me tell you what the problem is here, Bob. We can all, we can only use people's first names. Anyway, bit of a tangent on education there, but, but, uh, something to get to my nerves, bro. Get some, I know I talk about, well, let it out here on a safe space. That the internet safe those safe here yeah review us review us away oh didn't Jimmy say that he's like he's quit smoking weed and even refused the cigar because he's like worried that he'd start smoking cigarettes again yeah he'd outwit awaken the beast are you a cigar smoker you like cigars no I've never been into that. I like to really inhale my tobacco products and I just can't do that with cigars

I'll get through like if it's like a wedding or a celebration, you know, a bunch of guys kind of get together I always like that idea, you know in that movie the Titanic or the rich Guys were like, yeah We're going for whisies and cigars. And the women couldn't go into the, whatever the rumors, cause they were, you know, talking man stuff and doing business. And, and I, I was like, all the sexist part of that side, I was like, Oh, that's like a cool hang for sure.

Yeah. That's cool. Hang for, I'll, I'll light it up and I'll puff once and I'll hold it. But it is a lot of that and I and I think I I think unless I'm like drinking and Probably drinking whiskey, which is also kind of like a hard drink to drink Yeah, I don't think I can sit there sober and just like smoke a cigar. It's just a lot. It's a lot going on It's not for me. Yeah, I don't even smoke. I don't smoke anything nowadays. It just I have a delicate disposition and also it's so bad for me and everybody

who does it. It's identify with him when he said we talked about the weed thing. He put it down. His sleep was terrible. But his dreams popped off. And I think I've told you this one some a few times that my dreams got amazing When I when I put down the pipe really like my dreams were off the charts. I can remember them They were incredible. I could control them to a degree No shit, and how much weed will you how much we be smoking before you quit? Well since I've been about 15 till maybe 27, I smoked a king's ransom worth of weed.

Okay. So like every day you're stoned? Just puffing away just all day. Really? Uh huh. Yeah. Huh. I don't really remember you when we lived together. I don't remember you getting, like, you would smoke some weed, but I don't remember you like, it didn't stand out as like, I wouldn't have been like, oh, pizza huge stoner. I wouldn't have thought that. I didn't make it a part of my identity,

but it was my way of coping with the pain that is life. Oh, okay. There's a certain amount of pain that comes with existence and- Yeah, that's true. It's true. Weed covered that. Drugs have a place the drugs have a place

Okay, so when you when you cut them out then what all of a sudden these dreams ramped up they were what's like the wildest thing That happened. Oh Well, I can't go into that. No, okay. Just like like wacky. Yes Well, I would I would be on a river because a lot of my professional life, I was working fish biology on the river. So I'd be on a boat or something. And then all of a sudden I'd be flying with the boat or flying myself by swimming. Just just huge world scapes. How long looking down, jumping off, flying.

That's pretty cool. I can't I can't, I can't complain about the, that gift of great dreams because some of my friends have terrible dreams all the time. Yeah, that's sad. That's sad. I don't, I don't have terrible dreams. They're just weird. They're just weird. And I'm usually on a quest. I'm like preoccupied to the point where I don't have the luxury of like looking around and really concentrating on how weird this shit is that's going on. Like there could be like an eight foot tall rabbit just having a conversation with someone.

Ordinarily I'd be like, that's weird. But I'm like so busy doing something that I only see it a little bit and I just carry on. But they're never like nightmares. doing something that I only see it a little bit and I just carry on but they never like nightmares they're never also they're never like that great either like I'm never like oh that was so exhilarating and fun and awesome I was just like oh thank God I didn't have to complete whatever that quest was that was annoying thank God you have to deal with that body sometimes that sometimes I do have those like oh I'm in deep shit over here.

Oh yeah, yeah. I have some deep shit ones too. Those ones are a lot of work. You're like, oh no. You wake up like, yes! I woke up. I don't have to deal with all that. I'm not in jail.

That is great. But yeah, those ones are interesting too. So now that you've like, okay, so you quit your dreams got awesome. Did it last forever like that? That always just still pretty good or did it just ramp up for a period of time? They really ramp up and it tapers off, but, but I still have some pretty good ones almost every night, especially if I don't have any alcohol or anything, you know, and I'm, I'm not going to lie to you. I do smoke weed occasionally. Okay. So it's legal here by the way. So it's, um,

allegedly it, it does. It is, it's a nice for here's and there's, um, I'm not saying, um, yeah, I recommend putting things down for a while. See what your brain does in your sleep. It's a good idea. I mean, you know, considerations about alcohol and getting older and it slows you down, it costs you. I mean, that's something that they talked about.

Same thing. I mean, you get into your fifties, it's where Joe's at. I mean, Joe occasionally still goes hard, but I don't think he drinks every day. You know, maybe it is club. He might have like one cocktail a day, but I'm sure he does well to take time off. It's not just working out and drinking a lot. I think that he knows to take,

to have space between these things. He, he seems to have an unusual amount of discipline and control with that stuff. But yeah, take a break, see how you function without it. Uh, it'd be weird at first and it's really hard for a lot of people to just take that first step. But once you do, and then you're like, okay, I did it for a day. Like, you know, just give yourself like small, small wins. Like, you know, some people are like, I'm gonna quit drinking tomorrow.

It's like, okay, yeah, maybe, but it's fucking hard. How about you just don't drink for one day? See if you can do it. If you can get to like eight o'clock at night and be like, hey think I'm not gonna drink I'm gonna watch some TV and then go to bed That's a fucking great start for someone that is like used to drinking. You know, that's a way even a couple of beers every day Yeah, and then before you know it a couple of beers will really fuck up your circadian rhythms It can for sure and then you jump into what what's been doing, some breath work and getting into like psychedelic states and just kind of, you know, leaning into like these kind of other healthier

habits. I mean, look, oftentimes we're using drugs to kind of speed things up or like to control the speed of time is what it seems like to me. Like sometimes smoking weed like slows it all down, you know, alcohol kind of revs it up for a while. It's like it's changing that perspective or just like, you know, getting yourself like numb to what's going on and you can just pass the day away. Exactly, exactly. But there's like, there's other ways you can do that

in a kind of sober state too. It's like a good workout, good hard workout is like, it has some elements of that. I mean, you kind of feel outside of yourself when you're on a real hard run or doing some sprint drills Or really wearing yourself out with some weights. I mean sounds nerdy, but it it's Does the job outside taking a long walk going on a nice a mile run is is hard

Oh, yeah, someone who doesn't really run that much if you do that go on a half mile go on a five minute run That'll speed life up. Yeah, like a tough yoga session You know what? That's like like a hot yoga and like really difficult movements I mean, that's that's a whole thing in itself. You're just like whew That's the fountain of youth right there. If you ask me you think so That's the fountain of youth right there, if you ask me. You think so? Yeah, or at least lets you enjoy life more. It loosens your low back up for males have a hard time with their low backs and we got

to keep that thing healthy and spry. Yeah. So the hips. I want to talk to you about that after the part actually, because I just kind of fucked my lower back up. So it's funny you say that. but anyway, yeah, Jimmy legend, a legend, dude. And he's not happy with the state of things. He's frustrated.

He's got a great podcast. Um, I can't wait to hear what he says about this whole election coming up. I hope Joe hasn't back on. Maybe he can become like the new Jerry election, you know, correspondent or something. That'd be nice. Yeah, I think that would be fun. And hopefully he just moves to Austin like all the rest of the comedians. That'd be great. I hope he comes back as well. He's got a great head on his shoulders. Yeah, he's the best. Love him. Good job, Jimmy. All right.

Thanks Pete. Appreciate it. And thanks for everyone listening. And we will talk to you guys next week. Thank you, Adam. See you.