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You're listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review. What a bizarre thing we've created now with your hosts adam thorn one go enjoy the show all right so save our parks volume four they are oh for 1 for actually saving parks but Shane Gillis, Mark Norman and Eri Shafir are on form in this episode. I have no idea why Eri decided that it was a good idea to challenge Shane Gillis to a drinking competition. That seems like a terrible plan and it really kind of unraveled into that but it was hilarious yeah I feel like we should probably chug some Bud lights right now but I don't have any so maybe not was it it wasn't Bud light that they were

shotgun I was absolutely actual video. It makes sense. No, it was absolutely Bud Light. I wasn't sure if it was like, if it was a white claw or something easier. Kind of, you know, I'm proud of Mark Norman. It sounded like he drank a little bit more than usual. He was doing his best, but obviously kept his composure and, you know, had some ridiculous one-liners the whole his like word association game was almost too much to deal with unbelievable yeah he

was killing it I mean look that you get those type of guys together that have been friends for what 10 20 years I mean how long have those guys known each other they obviously are homies from way back at At least a decade. I know that Aries known Joe for quite a bit longer, but yeah, they're all becoming very close friends. The best one liner for me was the Jack Reacher comment. It was excellent. What was that one? It was just so many good ones.

I don't know. It was just like something about reaching around or reach around, I'm not sure. Excellent. Hey man. Yeah. I mean yeah. What was it? I just love. A $5,000 bet? I thought it was only a thousand bucks. What did it did it end up being five? I don't know. I don't even know how serious it was. I mean obviously Aerie was never gonna win so it might as well have been a million. Yeah, that was a tough challenge. I mean look, I always love it when you get a group of guys together and you drink a little, you're having some fun. It was nice to see Joe kind of open up and be himself and let loose a little bit. You know, he doesn't always do that.

He's always talking about discipline and you know, he's Joe Rogan. He's, he's a, he's an important guy. It's nice to see him get a little tuned up. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, in a way still, you still see what he would be like to do that with. Like he's never the most messed up. He's like like still keeping it together making sure people are on track while a few others just kind of go off the rails and

Obviously Shane Gillen He seemed to like sober up as the pod went on he was like more sober at the end in the weirdest way The guy's an animal Did you um I I had a couple notes here before I forget. I had, um, I didn't realize that there were these private browsers. Have you heard of this? This blaze and duck duck go? Oh yeah. Joe talks about duck duck go a lot. I don't think I've ever even used them though. I feel like I need to use them because, I've been talking about pools for my kid and all of a sudden it's like all this little kid shit's coming up on my Facebook. We've

got Alexa in here so Alexa is listening to our conversations every day. Who knows what's going to come up next? Oh, you're getting paranoid? I don't know if I'm paranoid. It's just nice to know that there's a browser out there that would block you from, at least supposedly block you from, you know, people hearing it, listening in into your conversation. I mean, just... I don't think that they're listening, dude.

I think that it's shit you type in your phone or in Google. Yeah, but dude... And people just forget that they type it in and then it shows up. I disagree. And it's actually stuff you were talking about, so... What about airplane flights though? What about, you know, picking flights on kayak or Google flights and then all of a sudden you go back the next day you didn't pick up your flight and then it's like Double the price does that happen to you?

Yeah, but that's the same as I just said you typed it in they know you want it They save that and then they add 50 bucks. Yeah, but doesn't duck duck go stop that from happening. Isn't that the point? I They probably do but I am not a hundred percent sure that even happens to be honest like I think sometimes It seems like it does but it might just be that you didn't go back to the flight for a week and now the prices have changed I Don't know buddy seems a little fishy but All right, you could download and then it's free. Give it a shot. See what you think You can do whatever you want. Talking about conspiracy theories,

they got into the Oklahoma City bomb thing. What do you remember of that whole event? Because when did that even happen? Was that the early 80s? No, it was early 90s. It was early 90s. You and I were, we were old enough to remember. I mean, we were probably what, like 10? Yeah, but I lived in England. It wasn't the same story it was here. That's why I'm wondering what it felt like when you lived through that. I mean, I remember seeing it on the news. The weird thing is I remember it being close to the first Iraq War as well when George Bush Sr. was our commander in chief, unfortunately. And yeah, I remember that because my uncle

was actually in Kuwait. So I do remember that pretty specifically. But the Oklahoma bombing, I think, was right around that time. And I just remember seeing it on TV, you know, like a bunch of explosions. It was like a fertilizer plant, right? No, I think that it was a fertilizer bomb that they took to like a government building and then blew up. But these guys were saying that maybe it wasn't a fertilizer bomb, right? That was the conspiracy is that that that was? Probably a lie is that what they were saying I? Think so yeah, I mean I What do I know about those types of bombs, but Joe said he spoke to a bomb expert and they that guy said

It's very unlikely that a bomb made of that stuff could blow so much of a building up But then it's like okay, but what the hell does that mean then? very unlikely that a bomb made of that stuff could blow so much of a building up. But then it's like, okay, but what the hell does that mean then? That they put another bomb in there? Well, it's like, were they saying that he was part of the MK ultra? Is that how the whole MK ultra conversation got started? Yeah, supposedly he was, I don't know if it was the MKUltra one, it was like the Harvard

LSD trials which were different. Which Kaczynski was in as well, right? Well, he is the Unabomber. Right, so Kaczynski was part of the Harvard thing, which is the same as MKUltra, it was just in a different lab, right? I mean it's a similar. No, I think What similar but MK ultra was like the CIA project god, I don't know if they're related Do you know that they're related? I don't know enough about those two things. Honestly, they're separate LSD trials

Yeah, I just know that it's testing subjects using Lysergic acid that the thetamine or however you pronounce it But yeah, it's using LSD on subjects to see if they can get them, you know I think originally they were trying to create a truth serum was the original thought right? It's something like that. Yeah, and that clearly that clearly mind control We're getting people are just laughing their asses off and running around telling them everybody how much they love each other. Yeah I wonder what the process is to like doing a lot of acid and then ending up wanting to like

blow up a building. That seems like a big stretch. I mean I don't know I guess if you give somebody enough of any kind of drug it just depends I mean, I don't know. I guess if you give somebody enough of any kind of drug, it just depends. I mean, who knows how much he was taking? I don't know, man. It's crazy to think. I mean, they were talking about Charles Manson. There was all sorts of conspiracies they were talking about. Charles being a part of a similar thing, was that at Harvard as well? No, he's that was the MK ultra one they think he's connected to like the CIA thing. I still got to read that book that Joe keeps talking about. Me too. That yeah, it's it sounds like I mean, the guy obviously did his research.

What was it like 25 years of researching the book? And it's all about Manson and the CIA and giving people acid and that just sounds so crazy. It's like what are you doing guys? Yeah, I don't understand it. I mean what was the point? What was the point? I mean were they just trying to see what LSD would do to people's brains so that they could

like fuck with other prisoners when we had prisoners of war? Is that why they would do to people's brains so that they could like fuck with other prisoners when we had prisoners of war was like is that why they would do it? I don't really get it. This podcast is brought to you by DraftKings Casino. In a world of slot reels and blackjack deals comes the must play event of the summer from DraftKings Casino. Featuring non stop action and an all starstar cast of games including A-Lister, Loki's Luck, this summer blockbuster is one you won't want to miss. Plus new players can get $100 instantly in casino credits with just a $1 wager and all players get a blockbuster bonus every week so sign up with the code JRER and grab your

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technically everything is like approved right through the government but I've got a feeling these agencies like the CIA and everything I don't know what kind of checks and balances there are in them they're kind of like free agents to just take money and go figure shit out and hope they can hide it if it all goes wrong yeah I mean did you read any of those jackal books? I can't think of the author right now, but how to be a jackal or You know, okay. Anyways, it was a former CIA agent and he he wrote a couple books I

Believe it was called to be a jackal anyway Similar stuff where like the CIA is completely corrupt, they're doing drug runs, they're going into Venezuela and you know, trading bombs for coke and I mean all sorts of shit. You've heard it. Yeah, yeah, I know some of that stuff for sure. I mean it's just what it's almost like some of those things you don't even want to know.

You really don't. Yeah, it would just upset you yeah, it would be just oh What would just freak you out and you wouldn't trust the government at all? I mean, maybe that's why Kaczynski went AWOL dude. There you go Mm-hmm Yeah, it's probably something like that Oh, they watch that video of that cop getting attacked by the dude with a hatchet. Did you actually see that video? I didn't zoom in on it. No, but I heard him laughing

like going ape shit when it was happening. Did you watch it? Yeah, it's such a wacky video. It's like crazy. The guy stops and like doesn't quite stop his car that well. So the cop like has a second to be like, all right, something weird is happening here. And that's kind of how I guess he was able to prepare a little bit because he didn't catch him massively off guard like he did a bit and luckily for him and his training or just however he did it he was able to kind of position himself but man he didn't have a lot of time he could have one wrong step one wrong move and this guy would have been on him. And it was just a dude like, stopping his car in a traffic stop, running at a cop with

a hatchet. Crazy. What was that other thing they showed? I can't remember if it was before or after what you just mentioned with the hatchet, but it was like the power plant that got targeted. Oh yeah, like a bunch of what sounds like pretty highly trained individuals went and fucked up a power plant. Right. And it just, it goes to show how, what was Joe talking about?

How he couldn't sleep the night before this pod because he was thinking about weird shit like what would, you know, what would screw up the human race quickly? You know, the fastest thing that would screw us up is just getting rid of all electricity. Yeah, he had jock itch, so it kept him up because he was sweaty. And then because he's like uncomfortable and can't sleep, his mind immediately goes to how quickly the fabric of society

will fall to pieces, which I think in different ways we all kind of do though, right? We all kind of sit there and start, if you can't sleep, you usually do end up like worrying about stuff that you have very little control over and you're like adding worry to problems that aren't even that big of a deal, but it just happens, you know, and you're like adding worry to problems that aren't even that big of a deal. But it just happens, you know, because you're kind of irritated and you can't sleep. But he makes some good points. It's like if COVID showed us anything or like the big storm they had down in Texas, you

know, Joe gives the example like, oh, the power goes out for a week. Dude, if the power went out for a week, people would start to fall to pieces pretty quickly. It's just reasonable, it just would happen. The people you would notice that don't are people that really are more off the grid and isolated and have workarounds. To even say, oh, the answer is a bunch of generators, it's like, well, if the power is out, dude, you're going to run out of fuel real fast too like all of that shit's gonna happen yeah it's definitely scary to think about it reminds me of it you know if we ran you

know the rubber trees what are those in like Kuala Lumpur or something in you know the Pacific somewhere Sri Lanka is it in Sri Lanka has a lot of rubber so if those trees were to get diseased have you heard this like if those trees were to get diseased We would be out of rubber and it would completely crash the entire arrows, you know airplane industry just gone really Yeah, because they have to have real rubber. You cannot make a synthetic rubber that is strong enough for airplanes It's it's absolutely impossible. From what this documentary was talking about. Yeah. So if like those rubber trees were to get some sort of you know bug or disease, it reminded me of that because

what are you gonna do? I mean people need to travel. Yeah. I mean there would be a bunch of things like that. I mean when you don't have an alternative and you're relying on nature and nature in if it's very specific to like just one type of tree that could get infected, I mean yeah we could be in big trouble. I mean we almost are right with what's going on with wheat and Ukraine and that you know export of wheat i like i didn't know that so much wheat came from one place it's like we really need to be spreading out all these resources because it starts to show what happens if one place closes down

and we're like i'm sorry guys this is where we get all the hats from and now we're like we have no hats no hats are they are they just saying that though i mean i feel like when when they say the putin price hike on the gas and this and that i've there's more to it than just okay that's just an excuse in my mind for corporations to jack a bunch of shit up and probably who who knows what there is to like right? It's like yeah

We're doing our best trying to figure this out, but it that's why we shotgun Bud lights boy It's why you got a shotgun a bud light at least every now and again and on special occasions like this pod We really should have saved one for it out of respect It was great that Jamie joined in with that and shotgun to beer I don't remember him ever doing that in the podcast. I Had never seen it what a ledge. Yeah ledge and then yeah and finishing up just again with Ari puking Pretty much his guts out bless him worth worth a watch

Yeah, a real mess a real mess and he did he didn't listen to Rogan at all. Rogan was like, don't throw up in here. He's like, no, I won't and still did. Like he just, I love him because he just doesn't give a shit. But poor Rogan. He was like, damn it. Those poor guys. Those poor guys would be hung over for freaking six days after that one. No doubt. support guys who can be hung over for freaking six days after that one. No doubt. Alright, let's jump over to Mike Judge. This podcast is brought to you by Elysium at TryBasis.com. NAD plus products have been touted to me for many years and after trying Elysium's NAD

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And I don't know if you remember like back in the day I mean I was living in England when Beavis and Bug came out, but it really was like ridiculously revolutionary. I think the show started out where it was them watching Music videos and then they would kind of like talk about it in between But they were always good music videos and it kind of expanded into its own episodes and own series But it was just such a wild show Dude, I I have fond memories of beavis and butt head both Corn holio was was come on and who who was butt head. I am the corn holio was was beavis butt head was what? something about

No, I can't remember what what butt headsead's nickname was, because Beavis was I am the Cornholeo. Oh, his little character. I have TP for me bunghole. And the other guy just chuckled a lot. They were just ridiculous. Yeah, he just chuckled. That was brilliant. It was brilliant.

And we all kind of knew people like that too, in a way. We're like, yeah, you're basically Beavis the Butt-Head. I mean,. We're like, yeah, you're basically beavers and butthead I mean at least that your high school you knew a couple of people that you were like, yeah, that's them For sure. I mean it was it was stupid humor man, but it worked and it was new it was fresh You know, it was it was a cartoon People love cartoons. You can say whatever you want with a cartoon, which is great I mean look at how I mean look at South Park South Park is insane and Beavis and Butthead was

Was that before South Park? Or was right around the same time. I can't remember. No, it was before. Yeah, it was before I think South Park was like 97. Beavis and Butthead was around in the early 90s 94 yeah,, 94. Yeah, about that. So it kind of got in there early. I mean, you can. You can just get away with murder on cartoons because it's not real people. So anything can happen to them. And also next week, you can just bring them back fine. Like none of the plot needs to line up. You can just go nuts with it well they said that how many times did they kill

Kenny and nobody nobody was ever like hey that doesn't make sense so they said the new movie Beavis and Butthead 2 just came out right yesterday what was what's today mm-hmm just came out no a few days ago on June 24th so we're gonna have to go watch that Param Paramount Plus. So yeah that's pretty radical. I'm glad he got the rights to it back it sounded like Mike Judge figured out a way to get 50% of Beavis and Butthead back after basically selling the whole thing. It just seems like MTV was like such a shit show to work with early on well, dude

What did he say they were gonna be a penny ass? 18,000 bucks or something he sold it for and you know he was young he didn't know any better, but that's crazy Yeah, I mean when you're super broke maybe 18,000 bucks is a good deal Sure that can change lives. What was this in the early 90s? What would that be the equivalent of maybe like 50 grand? That could do a lot for a completely broke artist and director.

True. I mean, what? He was probably in his 20s at that point, right? Oh, no doubt. Yeah. No doubt. Dude, but Office Space, to me, Office space is one of the top 10 movies of all time It's so good. It's so good. I wish you would have talked about it more. I was like

Curious to honestly. Yeah, he just said it was difficult. It was hard to make Low budget like a real struggle if you guys haven't seen that to definitely go and watch office space I mean yeah just so fucking good I mean idiocracy is equally as good in its own way I mean I wouldn't say it's it's it they're different right they're two different I don't even know if they compare I mean they're both hilarious but in my mind dude like office space just like hits a chord with me more because I I Just know what it's like to be in an office and how much it sucks and it he just he just fucking crushes every little

Skit that they do. I mean, it's just perfect when they're like smashing the printer and it's like die motherfucker die motherfucker kill So good. Mm-hmm. And he's like driving to work he's driving to work and listening to fucking rap and he he like pulls up to some like Some dude and rolls up the window and turns down the music cuz he's all scared cuz he's like this dorky white dude listening to fucking gangster rap Because he's like this dorky white dude listening to fucking gangster rap I mean it definitely highlights how such shitty life can be when you work in a cubicle job I mean it does it better than anything else. It's like something we all knew you know But nobody ever talked about and it was kind of like the revenge of that

It's like if one day you just went in and were like, I am sick of this life. I don't even care anymore. I'm just doing whatever I want. And because it's corporate too, it's like they couldn't just fire him right away. They even started to like actually like him and respect him and want to know his views on things. He like inadvertently became like a bit of a leader of the office. Because he didn't give a fuck. It was great. Yeah. Yeah.

They were like, wow, you seem pretty confident. We want to know how you do this. What you're thinking. He tapped into some fun stuff on that movie for sure. Yeah, for sure, man. I was definitely- I don't remember it. They talked about that more, but yeah, go ahead.

No, but I don't remember a lot of idiocracy. I remember enjoying it, but I just don't a hundred percent Remember like a ton of the I mean the plot to it other than like the world was all fucked up And he went into the future and they had like ridiculous shit like Instead of water out of the fountains. it was like Gatorade or energy power or something? Yeah it was Gatorade for sure and I think the biggest thing, well at least what Joe was going over with with Mike Judge was talking about which is a scary thought because I think it's already happening is that smart people aren't procreating and so you got all these dumb motherfuckers that are having like six seven eight kids you know with no education and then like you know these

super smart you know more educated individuals are deciding not to have children and that I think that's kind of the basis behind idiocracy. That's kind of the thought behind it is that we are moving towards that as we speak. I mean, it's entirely possible. But at the same point, maybe that's kind of always how it's been, you know, because people maybe even way in the past. Well, maybe people are way in the past. Like they get busy, they get successful, they start working really hard and they don't, they just don't have the time for kids. I mean, obviously there was less contraception in the past.

So people were just popping them out whenever they pop them out. But you could imagine that there could be like a similar process that happens. I mean, I'm'm gonna call bullshit. People like think about well but think about people that are like more connected to politics of the past. They have a this is before like newspapers, before the internet, before a lot of information is traveling and if they're well connected right they're like the mayor of a town or they're just in business or politically connected. They have a big, like a broader idea of kind of what's going on nationally

and globally just through their network of people they know. And life is hard. Maybe there's difficult times and they're thinking, you know what, this really isn't the time to be doing it. But if you just live in like a smaller village, you're a farmer, you need a bunch of people to work on your farm, you're like, right, we gotta pop out kids, that's number one. So we have workers, and we don't really know what the hell is going on around us. But we seem to have just about enough food, so let's keep making more kids. Well, there you go buddy, you have summed up the reason why our nation is getting dumber and dumber, thank you.

Are we sure that's happening though? I don't know if people are getting dumber and dumber. Thank you. Are we sure that's happening though? I don't know if people are getting dumber. I don't know if people are getting dumber, but you know, I think sometimes politics are going backwards, but you know, idiocracy, if you watch the movie, I mean, similar things are happening in 2022 and that's a scary thought. You know, like

It's it's a scary thought to think uh You know that people would be stoked about gatorade coming out of the drinking fountains And I think a lot of people would be stoked about that right right now Oh, dude talking about that. I just saw this new release drink and I don't know if you've seen it Mountain Dew is coming out with an like an alcoholic version Oh boy, like selling it how many how many carbs in that bad boy? It actually said zero sugars. So it's like a white claw. It's like zero calorie

But it's obviously Mountain Dew infused which god knows what kind of chemicals they're using and I think they were like five percent. Wow well you've seen those kids in the south with their all their teeth missing because they drink Mountain Dew every day you've seen some of those reality shows I'm speaking to MTV I think it was I think it was on MTV back in the day. Oh that was the actual show. Who knows but we'll have to try day. Oh, that was the actual show. Who knows, but we'll have to try some. We'll bring some.

Don't pick on the South, bro. We'll bring some to the stuud. All right, we're trying them out. We're shotgun one just to see what it does. See how much energy we get. So what else did you get? What else did you get from Mr. Mike Judge?

I was hoping for more out of Mike because he's a hilarious dude. Yeah, he's not like the most kind of exciting, inspiring podcaster. I mean, you want to be a fan of him in order to kind of sit through the whole conversation. Which happens, I mean, it's probably the same with a lot of our podcasts, I mean it just is how it is. But yeah, he was, he had his stories, but he, I don't know, maybe he just didn't seem like he was all that kind of pumped to be there, or maybe that's just how he always is. I know I've heard him on Rogan before. I don't remember how he was. But yeah, he just kind of, it's like a very calm and chill conversation.

I think Joe kind of had to work hard to pull out some interesting points from him. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I wanted to hear a little bit more about the movies he's done and the movie he currently just put out. That would have been sweet. I mean, they talked about pigs for a while. That was cool.

Learning about pigs, like, what did it say after two months? If you take a domestic pig and let it go run free in the wild after two months, it basically starts becoming a boar Yeah, that's so weird that was crazy Yeah, like what the fuck if everything did that Like your dog runs away for a couple of months and like changes color and grows horns This becomes a wall like what I know right every dope actually Yeah, I'll be though alright, let's rock on over to Ryan Holliday. This guy, I know you've read his books, or at least one of them.

I have one of them. I think the same one, right? The ego. What's the ego one? Ego is the enemy. Yeah, it came out in, I think, like 2017. Great book. I would definitely recommend that book and now after listening to him I

I'm definitely gonna get a few more of his books. I didn't realize he had written so many dude that what a smart dude for what? He's like 35 He dude he was excellent on this part I mean you I haven't heard him on other things but you can tell that it's not just about how smart he is. It's like well-spoken. He had examples almost all the time. Anytime Joe contradicted him, which he got him a couple of times, um, with, you know, oh, that doesn't quite line up with me, but he took it well. He didn't try and defend it. He was just like, oh yeah, no, that's yeah, that kind of makes sense. And then he would just go into whatever his point was as well. He didn't try and defend it. He was just like, Oh yeah, no, that's, yeah, that kind of makes sense. And then he would just go into whatever his point was as well. Yeah. Um,

totally good listener. Good listener and speak. I liked him. I liked him a lot. He was excellent and great. I mean, he's the kind of person I could listen to a bunch. I could imagine like him, you know, I, I often think of that, like people do those speaking tours, you know, like Jordan Peterson would do them and like Ben Shapiro goes around and does it. And I often wonder like, who of those people, if they came to town, would I care to go see? That's not really my cup of tea anyway.

It's not like Ted, Ted talks could be in town and I probably wouldn't go to him. I just feel like it would be pretty stuffy, a lot of waiting around and just, I wouldn't care that much. Um, but he's someone I would go listen to. I'd be curious to hear what he had to say. And I just like his style of communication. It was pretty good. He didn't sound like a false, you know, self-help guru guy to me. No, not at all. I mean, I think he, you know, being the stoic, I mean, he obviously is obsessed with, you know, Marcus Aurelius and Epictetus, all these old, you know, older, kind of philosophical, but also, you know, I mean, rulers at the time, emperors, right? I mean, Marcus Aurelius was an emperor, but he was

a very different kind of emperor. I was really interested in hearing about how much, you know, different Marcus Aurelius was compared to other emperors of that time and if not of all time. Yeah. You know, it just seems so unusual to me that somebody with all that power could be so introspective. I wonder if there was a point where he's like, okay, I'm taking over from this other guy. That guy completely abused all of his power and was a complete mess and did horrible things and thought that it was okay and then they kind of trapped themselves because once you become pretty terrible it's probably hard

to change it. And somehow he steps into that role and says, no, I'm going to be kind of hard-lined in the other direction. Not to say he didn't have fun and allow that power to give him luxuries and other things, but it seems like he was very careful about how he oriented himself in that space and I other than the motivation of like ultimately it's like the right thing to do and will probably result in you behaving the best possible way you could I don't know what the motivation would be you know it's almost like catching the catching the train instead of taking a private jet somewhere.

You know when you see those videos of like Keanu Reeves on the underground, on the tube in New York and like gives up his seat for people and you're like why doesn't he have like a limo driving him around? Because Keanu is fucking awesome. I would say, I mean this is my my personal opinion here, but just like Abraham Lincoln, they talked about Abe, honest Abe, they talked about Teddy Roosevelt. I mean, these people are just different, man. They come around every once in a while.

He obviously had a different thought. He was more of a go-giver. He had a lot of strife happen. I mean, the poor guy lost seven kids. Yeah. Jesus. I mean, that had to have changed his perspective on life just a little bit, you'd

think. Um, now I don't know the timeline on, on losing those children, but I mean, good God, just losing one kid, I can't even, I can't even fathom that I imagine losing seven I know times were different what was this in AD one or AD 1500 is it 150 oh like 150 80 150 yeah we're talking about hundred is like Shakespeare yes I'm way off yeah 80 150 I mean back then people were dying left and right, right?

I mean, but seven kids that's just crazy Yeah, so maybe that was part of that or Maybe he started this process earlier and just kind of knew to tap into this I don't really know. I mean he had an asshole kid. So it doesn't all work out I mean, maybe you become so understanding and thoughtful that your kids can just like take advantage of you and still vie for the power and corruption in the same way. I mean it's hard to know like it's a rough one too because like even Joe said like I wonder he goes it is weird that like these great people that existed

had terrible kids. And then Ryan was like, yeah, maybe they're busy and they don't get to spend time with their kids. I, I don't know, maybe both of those are right, but also maybe it's just that, you know, I don't know. Sometimes you just get bad kids. I mean, I don't want to believe that if you develop this really compassionate way of thinking it Often also leads to you having terrible kids that is like well, wait a second then well What is the best way to behave? Should the book be called be a little bit like a stoic but not too much. Otherwise your kids are assholes. I Mean when he said that I thought of

kids are assholes. I mean when he said that I thought of you know the schedule of somebody that important I mean you have to make time for your children if you don't then you might end up with a little asshole. I mean how do you make time for your kids when you're an emperor? I don't know never been an emperor but I'm sure it's not that easy no you got to outsource some stuff for sure but you got to put the time aside I mean look at the shit that Joe does three jobs always on the go and even when people ask him like he said he was talking to his mom and his mom said Joe you're always so busy and he's like mom it's a bit of a trick like one I enjoy it and I think he

has like his quote-unquote non-negotiables he's like yeah in the morning I drive my kids to school like there is no contract no amount of money and no obligation that will get in that way it's like he carves it out and it's not like it necessarily gets in the way of these other things that he needs to do to be successful. Yeah. I mean, obviously Marcus Aurelius was just a lazy, lazy dude. I don't know.

This is our assumption. We're like, yeah, you should have worked harder. I thought the, the, the really one of the best quotes I heard from Ryan was, well it wasn't from Ryan, he was quoting Epictetus saying that the chief task in life is separating things that are in your control from what's outside your control. And I thought that was just brilliant. And it goes into so much of what we see today of like all this shit news that we watch and the social media and it's like, choose what you can control. It's such a simple thing that will absolutely make you feel so much better. Right?

Oh, and it takes constant reminder too. It's like you'll hear something on the news and you'll let it bug you all day and it really does take a moment to be like there is nothing I can do about this right now. And now all it's done is like creep into your life, bug you, change your like mood while interacting with everybody that you interact with that day and you're like, oh, the only thing I can actually change or control is like how I come into every space, you know, whether it was with your wife or your kids or your patients with others or even strangers that you meet. And it does, it like, it's so difficult to remind you of that. I like to get worked up about shit I read all the time and it's like this has no bearing on my life. Yeah, you can't even bothered about this

Oh, right. And it was he was saying I can't remember if it was Joe or Ryan was saying that You know, you're avoiding your own personal struggles by watching the news and you're basically starting fires with other shit that you cannot control and you're just like you feel like you're in control by watching the news or you feel like you're you know helping in some sort of weird way even though you're not and it's like taking up all this time and energy when really all these things are out of your control and You're avoiding your own personal struggles. I really related to that a lot because I try so hard not to

Get too worked up over the over the news Maybe ignorance is bliss suddenly Circumstances in some circumstances. In some. You know, because people like to say that they're being, they're like, no, no, it's grown up and it's responsible and you want to be well informed. And that's like the quotation I'm not sure about because I'm like, wait a second, how informed are you?

Because how much of this do you know to be truthful and fact? Like you weren't there, you didn't gather the information. how much of this do you know to be truthful and fact like you want that you didn't gather the information obviously we have to outsource some of it because you can't you can't only gather all your information yourself on a global scale that would be impossible so you got to find some trusted sources but too much of that is going on to where you just do see like we all have friends like this where they're worked up about something they want to where you just do see, like we all have friends like this, where they're worked up about something,

they wanna tell you all about it, they're like, that needs to change, that's annoying, and then you look at them and you're like, dude, you missed work twice this week, your house is a mess, like you didn't go to the gym, it's like, you're not even taking care of yourself. How are you planning on saving something on the other side of the world?

This doesn't make any sense to me. Well, and it's all such clickbait. I mean, they were talking about how everything is such clickbait journalism nowadays that it doesn't even account or, it doesn't even count for as news in my mind. It's not even news it's just fucking clickbait and it gets you to click on it and you You read it a five minute thing and most people won't even read the whole thing anyways

And it just gets people worked up and that's the point of it And this is a new thing and you know, they were talking about that book, um, from the 80s, it was called abuse ourself to death. Do you remember that? How the TV was like social media back then? I'd like to get my hands on that book. Cause that, that was interesting to me to just every, every society, you know, every generation, basically we have this new form of media whether it was the

printing press back in the day or then it's the TV and now it's internet and social media there's always something so there's got to be you know there's a good and a bad to that right I mean there's it's all there's always something that we can bitch about but but there's, I feel like nowadays these things come in cycles. Yeah. Yeah. But people like to do that.

They like to say, Oh, this is new and this just happened. And but they even brought up about how they used to sell newspapers when it was like, you know, extra extra read all about it times. It was like getting your attention as you get off the train you've got four choices and these young kids selling these newspapers and You know, they had to have like kind of like click baity bit headlines to get you to buy them It wasn't until the subscriptions came in and then you know, the Wall Street Journal knew they had 20 million people subscriptions came in and then you know the Wall Street Journal knew they had 20 million people

every week buying this that they could just do stories that weren't as Clickbaity in a sense like they weren't as yeah, the headlines weren't as catchy I get it Yeah, because they were like well, they're reading anyway, and then once that faded out It was back to the Internet and now they got to do it again They're reading anyway, and then once that faded out it was back to the internet and now they got to do it again It's like whatever grabs your attention and it's always the scariest thing and so often we've seen it where it's like you read the article It's like broccoli will kill you and you read it and it's like if you eat Four pounds of it and don't chew and it's like well, yeah Why did I even read this like duh so so I just wasted five minutes. Thank you Yeah, well again you you're wasting your time on something that's out of your control Adam. You shouldn't do that. I

Know but I get bored Well, and I think I want to be informed I think it might be something I'll talk about in the podcast and all I do is just get another shitty example of like damn well, that's what we should talk about is the amount of books that That Ryan gave to Joe at the end there. I mean, how awesome was that? Wasn't that great? 12 books or something. It was so great rad. I wrote a list down of a few of them that I want to read and You know, he had the art of war, or excuse

me, the war of art on there, Steven Pressfield, that's my homie. Legend. But also, I mean, Meditations, they talked about that, you know, throughout the entire podcast, which I have not read by Marcus Aurelius. And they talked about the version that was, you know, the English version, the translated version that was more modern. I can't remember the name on that one. It was like a Richard something.

The Teddy Roosevelt thing was badass. What was he saying about Teddy? I have this written down here. Oh yeah, he went down like some river in the Amazon or something. Yeah, he was like the first dude that documented going down the river in the Amazon or something. Yeah, he was like the first dude that documented going down the river in the Amazon. Yeah, if you guys want a full book list too, go to the Instagram page Jerry Companion. Joe often puts it in his

stories and it's a great Instagram, but they they have like a on that page They have like a slideshow of all the books that Ryan recommended, which is a really cool Thing resource just for like having them all in one place. Yeah that gate the Genghis Khan book was in there I don't know if it's a biography about Genghis Khan God he had a ton Well, didn't he say owned a bookstore so that like um, I didn't he say he owned a bookstore? So that like, I think if he didn't own a bookstore, that would have been a bit much. I would have been like, all right, dude, like you're trying to educate Rogan, like slow

down. But the fact that he's such an avid reader and I trusted what he was saying about the books just because of how he was speaking the whole time. I'm really keen. I think that that list of books, if you can get through, I don't know. I don't know how long that would take. It was like 12 books, but maybe a couple of years. It will probably really improve your life for sure.

I mean, I trust the guy dude. He was wearing an Iron Maiden shirt under his blazer. We're buddies. We're buddies. Yeah, that was him showing that he's cool but also smart. Good dress code. He obviously thought about that. I love that they played my favorite British comedy sketch of all time. Oh, God. Are We the Baddies. I knew you would love that one. Well, Mitchell on Web really was, I mean back

in the day we've had some really good comedy sketch shows in England but it's very like English style. It's hard to sometimes relate it over to American audiences like showing my friends and like sometimes they get it, sometimes they're missing something through a bit of the change in translation I guess you could say. Mitch on web has some great skits. They used to have all of their show on Netflix but it's gone now but that baddies one is just brilliant. I mean it's just such a good hilarious eye opener to like perspective. You know we can often think we're on the right side of things and it's not till you take a really humble step back which Kind of honestly almost no one does in a lot of ways because it just takes so much awareness

But I mean just brilliant skulls on your cap skulls everywhere and they still didn't realize they were the bad guys That was a good that was a nice get that was a good skit. What did what did you think? Right at the end there? He was talking about Jimmy Carter who? as a president, you know, he was he was what in the Military Academy they said he graduated what at like 38 years old I think and then he was was it he was getting offered a job somewhere or he was at a job interview. And I wrote this down about the guy that he was interviewing with, he must have been some colonel or something,

some dude high up in ranking, asked Jimmy Carter, did you do your best? And he said, you know, well, no, I probably could have done better. And the guy just walked out of the room. There's something to be said about that. Like did you leave anything on the table? Right?

Like that's such a huge thing. Like if we can only do our best, that's all you can do. Yeah. And, but, but when you, when you're like, let's say you're, you have a job or you're, let's say you have a job or you're in an office space or whatever, and you know you're in the top 2 or 3%, just having that information could be enough for you to just chill out a bit. And maybe that chilling out is useful. Maybe you've got other areas of your life you need to balance and bring some attention

to. But maybe it's not that. Maybe it just really is an excuse to kind of be a bit lazy and a bit sloppy in some areas and this kernel that walked out is like all I'm looking for is people that No matter what no even if they placed a hundred which is like way behind where Jimmy Carter was if they said I did my best Like every day always it's like that drive is actually more important It was a cool message. I mean it makes you think right?

Yeah, I mean no matter If you like your job or not if you do your best at least you can feel good about it I guess is what I got out of it Yeah, or go do something that you are more inspired to do your best in like maybe it also meant that Maybe that's not what you should have been doing Jimmy Carter because you didn't put it your all in So go find that and obviously became president so it worked out for him I do appreciate his honesty though, you know being like I could have I could have done a little bit better You know, we could all do a little bit better. Yeah

No doubt no doubt. Well, that's it for this week It was a it was a combination of the wildest podcast with some of the most thought-provoking ones, too I hope you guys enjoyed it too, and we look forward to Whoever the hell we have next week. What is it now? It's Tuesday. We haven't had any releases But I feel like he needs to get Elon back on pretty soon. Come on, baby. We gotta Yeah, we gotta get caught up. We need I want some of Elon's input into like what's happening with the economy with the oil Like what the heck is is going on right now? Shit's too expensive, bro.

Let's get Billy. Let's get Billy Gates on here. Come on, Joe. Oh, Billy. He get torn to pieces by Rogan. I would love that. It would be good. It would be good.

Well, anyway, thank you, Todd, as always. And thank you guys. But remember to check out website Jerry review comm for new information and stuff popping up and Love you as always. Thanks guys. Peace and love