Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 400 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Bret Weinstein Et al.

Episode Date: September 14, 2024

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eligibility and member terms apply You're listening to the Joe Rogan experience review Now with your host Enjoy the show Hey guys, and welcome to another episode of the Joe Rogan experience review. I'm Adam joined this week by Peter. Hello, Peter. Hey Adam.

Good to, good to be here. Thanks for having me again. What a week. What a week. We got Brett Weinstein, Chris Harris, Brett. And so he's, he's brothers of the other guy that comes on, right? Eric. Yeah.

Yep. Yeah. So one's a mathematician and one's like a biologist, both very smart guys. Um, both recently in the past few years, disillusioned by the Democratic party, but I, you know, and you could listen to a lot of what they said before they were that way. And they are very much Democrats. I mean, in the traditional sense, but I think that they represent the group that has kind of moved from that. And, um, you know, I trust, I trust what they say, you know, it's, well, when

you say things like, definitely that, right. They're very, very smart guys. But when you say that about somebody and then their politics changes, that doesn't mean that yours does too. It just means that you're trusting them and willing to listen to what they're saying. Sam Harris's politics are exactly the same. And he's kind of dug in with, you know, his thoughts and I've lost a lot of my

interest in what he says, though still he has very profound, important things that he discusses and communicates on. Um, so, uh, I think at the end of the day, you just kind of have to start to pick people that you trust in. Obviously you don't have to forever, but when you're outsourcing information, um, meaning that you're, you're not having to fact check everything that someone says, you can have some people that you're like generally for the most part, what they're saying checks out and makes the most sense to me.

So I will, you know, uh, just believe in this thing for now. And the Weinsteins do that often for me. They really do. Right. They also talk to a lot of other really top of the field people. So this, you know, it's like, Oh, who are you hear that from? The Weinsteins? I think they're Weinsteins, right? But anyway, they, they, they are like, uh, you know, a trusted source because they have a huge, um, ability to, to sort out details and bear the burden of evidence. They're like teachers, right? Do they typically, what have taught, right? Yeah, they both did.

And um, you know, and I have friends too that are like sending me clips of things Brett said recently and they're like, Oh, this is a kind of mental illness. And I'm just like, okay, you need to slow down with that because you work at a collision place or whatever your job is. And it's like, you can't, like, you can't have the dude, you know, at Sonic telling you that some genius is mentally ill just because you don't agree with what their topic is. Like that's a bad argument, you know, because then what are you doing?

Outsourcing yourself to fast food employees? No, not fast food employees, but we have a chat. I'll have a chat with you. You know? I'm hoping to it. But also I'm like, I don't know. I don't think so. The seed oil dispensaries. Bless them. So they seize the, the fricking U S sees the Venice way loads. President's plane. That's a fucking bold move. I hadn't heard that they go into that. How do you even do that?

Where was it? I don't know, but it landed somewhere where America could just grab it. And what are you going to do? Like it's a bully move, but what are you gonna do like it's a bully move but what are you gonna do like good luck I thought the I thought Biden's presidency loved Venezuela I don't know I don't know where to what's going on here I don't know I guess not anymore but you know it's kind of like that move with the taking all the billionaire yachts from the oligarchs in Russia, you know? I would, I don't think I could ever feel too bad for billionaires, whether they're Russians

or anyone else, but I'm also like, Hey, like maybe they weren't that stoked on Russia in general and they just happen to be billionaires. And because someone invades somewhere, you lose your yacht. Like that seemed like of all the types of things that we could piss people off about or go, you know, grab, like. Enforce our rules on a country. That one just seemed really strange to me. I think those billionaires have been like, they're they're basically royal.

Super wealthy since. Oh, I get it. They're all under Putin's like, you know, they will work for Putin. They will You know, they will work for Pood. They will help run sneaky shit in that country to some degree. But, uh, you know, does that just make you, I mean, how could that happen in reverse with the U S like, give me a scenario. All of a sudden the U S invade some country and then, and then that country takes Zuckerberg's yacht. country and then that country takes Zuckerberg's yacht? It just doesn't seem connected to the government.

I mean, it might be funny, but- We're trying to disrupt their war machine and not only does the president run the show, so do all these billionaires. I get it. That goes for us too. I'm not saying I'm anti, let's take Russian oligarch billionaire yachts. I found that quite funny. I just don't know how it's that connected to where they are. Of all the moves.

It's like, okay. Where are those yachts now? They probably went to some American billionaire. Right? Yeah. It'd be hilarious if American billionaire, got them. Yeah. It would be hilarious if Elon bought all of them. Imagine if there's just like, you know, an estate sale, and he just goes in and bids for all of them.

Just has a fleet. Doesn't even use them. I want one of those. It's part of- A lot of weird decorations, a lot of wood and chandeliers and those things. There's a lot of gold. I don't know how to decorate. They just don't.

Although different style, different style. Okay. I'm going to play some, I'm going to play some Brett. This one's quite long, but it's just about how Trump shifted the party. We'll kind of see how, how much we like of this and then we'll talk about it. So let's go. What we know and I think actually we owe Trump a huge debt of gratitude for proving something that I couldn't have told you if it was true before he won the presidency, which is, is there still enough democracy left in the system

for something to upend the plan? Right? Because he was clearly off narrative. And he did become president. So he did something for us that I don't know anybody else who could have done it. Yeah, it would take a person with that kind of personality that could withstand that kind of abuse.

Because he didn't freak out at all when they went after him. He's like, right, just brushed it off. Like it was nothing and no one's done that. He's also the only guy that's ever gone through four years and didn't age like he went through 30 years. That's true. He aged. That's a good point.

Like of all the presidents, they fucking age, dude. That's a stressful job. And Trump was exactly the same. Get back. He looks better. He looks better. Yeah. Normal.

Yeah. He's used to it. He's used to pressure, you know, and Bush, he aged a ton. Obama aged a ton. Everybody aged a ton. Biden was already cooked before he got in, but he's hard, but he aged a ton. I mean, Biden from 2019 to today is a different person. Yeah, and he was already visibly degraded,

but wow, was it a precipitous decline. Big jump now. Yeah, yeah. Trump was fine. Yeah, Trump, physically, and actually I think he sounds better. I think, you know, he drives me crazy sometimes when he talks, but I think he's getting better at it. He's trying to be a little bit more reasonable and try to appeal to more people because of

that effort to be more reasonable. He's changed his mind about a lot of things. He's talking about legalizing marijuana. He's talking about all these different things that are like, where you're going to get a lot of different responses from like the hardcore Republicans are not going to be for that. Any idea of abortion, the hardcore right wing are not interested at all. And any restrictions on abortion at all, you get your hardcore left wing. So it's mostly it's the people in the middle

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ends October 6th, 2024. Aborting an eight month old fetus is kind of fucking insane. Yeah, I mean, the funny thing, and I've been saying this forever, is that almost everybody agrees on the basics on abortion. We're supposed to not be able to even talk about it. But most people believe that abortion is negative, that if you've got a blastula, right, a clump of cells, doesn't yet have a nervous system, that you have the right to terminate that

pregnancy and that the farther you go through that pregnancy, the less right you have. And most people are incredibly queasy about it, I think as they should be in the third trimester. And that's what we agree on. And so it's really the extremists on both sides that we are up against. But to the question of what Trump is doing with an issue like this, I

want to make a couple of points. One, I think there are two issues that are getting tangled. One, I think he's politically going to some places that are not traditionally Republican because I think he's destroyed the Republican Party. I just don't see the same Republican Party I remember at all. I see a different thing and it's- It's a the Republican Party. I just don't see the same Republican Party I remember at all. I see a different thing and it's flying. It's a MAGA party. Yeah, it's a MAGA party. Right, exactly. And that's a very different thing because I see

MAGA as mostly the labor faction that was cut loose by the Democrats in the Clinton administration. And so they've now found a home under MAGA. Interesting. Right? Because blue collar people were generally, um, union people, which were generally Democrats. Totally. And then Clinton turned the Democratic party into a second corporate party so that those people were homeless. And then Trump picked them up as MAGA and they're now under the Republican banner, but it doesn't.

All right. We're going to, we're going to stop at that. I think that's an important point they made because, you know, I was discussing recently how the parties over time had flipped right throughout history, but you talk to anybody today that's like really dug in on either side, they don't think that that could ever happen again or is happening now. And I'm like, it happened before. And if COVID isn't the catalyst for something like that to happen, I don't know what could be right. You've got, you've got, um, Lincoln who was a Republican freeing slaves.

And you know, then we have FDR who was, was like, he was Democrat, but then there was the whole civil rights issue and that kind of flipped back. Like Nixon started to grab those disenfranchised people then pushed on civil rights. people then pushed on civil rights. I think, no, I think FDR was for it, but then the Republicans got against it to grab some votes. It's all just, my point is, it's this vote grabbing thing. It's just like, there's two entities that are not human. They're parties, right? They're like a corporation.

Yeah, they're a machine that needs to self replicate and stay alive. And generally it wants to pretend that it has a lot of feelings and a soul, but like, when do we think corporations have that either? And it's not me demonizing either, but I think a human being as an individual has more substance than either a corporation or a political party. Because they're a human. They feel. They know what real empathy is. A lot of the rest of it is just talking points. So it's like, right, we've got these votes up for grabs. Let's lean in and change

it. It's like Hillary in 2010, not supporting gay marriage and then all of a sudden being the fucking freedom fighter for it. Imagine that as an individual. If you had a friend in 2010, that's like, that's basically when we live together in New Mexico. If I knew you then, and you knew that I was like massively against it then, even if I changed my mind now, which would be a progressive good thing. I'm not saying it's bad to change your mind, but that's not that long ago. Right. You'd be, you would still be like, Oh, Adam has a tendency to be a bit of a bigger,

because it wasn't that long ago that he was saying this shit. He's better now. And I'm like, this, this was the person that was going to run the democratic party in 2016. Same thing with Obama. He was against it. Dude, they all were essentially. Cause it just, but it wasn't, it wasn't a thing that grab votes, you know, grabbing machines. They're not really like, whatever for your party is the right thing to say to grab the most votes.

You know, any vote that grabs. Like, and they do that whole gerrymandering thing is like, you know, it might, if when it's not a money making machine, it's a great vote grabbing machine. Like, every four years it's just bang. They're designed to enfranchise themselves. And I guess, I guess you could say money. I feel like it's more power. It's money for a lot of people and it is money, but like that's powerful.

Look at it this way. The presidents are never the richest people ever. They're not Kings here. Right. And what I mean by that is they're not worth billions of dollars. I mean, Trump is allegedly, but you know, even the Plintons and the Obamas that have made a shitload of money since they've been, since they've been presidents, they're still not billionaires, but it kind of doesn't

matter because they had the maximum power for a while. And I think ultimately money seems to be the biggest driving force for people, but it's always because it leads to power. So once you've, once you've reached the maximum power, it's like, well, money's a thing, it'd come, but that's what we're going for. So we will grab whoever we need to, you know, like Trump saying in the debates about the immigrants eating cats. What a wild move. I don't know how many cats are being eaten. I don't know if it's like an epidemic of cat eating that's going on.

Maybe it is. Maybe he knows that that will rile some fucking people up for sure. It's not what I, not what I would have gone with, but it's, um, it's what he did. It's what he did. It would have been on maybe a list of 10, you know, hit back talking points, but I would have left that till last unless I was, you know, hit back talking points, but I would have left that till last. Unless that was...

You'd want some big, you'd want some big evidence. Big news stories, something. Pictures of those cats, but yeah, that was wild. Yeah. Oops. Well, he didn't have anybody in his ear like Kamala did, so you had a whole team talking to her, potentially. ALICE Allegedly.

Well, actually Brett had a bit of a video about that, and he was like, alright, so the right has grabbed this as a conspiracy. The earrings look similar, probably not what happened, for whatever reason, and also it could have been done as like a red herring, to get those conspiracy theories biting at stuff online so that, y'know, the left can make the right look as wacky as the far left is. Take a bit of the, y'know, stress off all the super wacky left stuff. But that's kind of a long play that's hard for me to believe as well. I'm like, are we really thinking that far ahead? We're just hoping that someone, unless they put the story out themselves, like that would actually

be a pretty dope move. You just get earrings that are the same and then you just throw the story out. All those were the ones that can wifi in information. Well, they just have someone talking to her. Like maybe Obama or Michelle. Dude, she seemed so prepared. Well, also on that note, she did get the questions. It was leaked that they had a, they gave her the questions.

Oh yeah. Cause it wasn't, wasn't one of the ladies on the thing in her fricking sorority group or something. Yeah. Whether or not that lady had the questions, but come on, how partial is she? The all new fan dual sports book andino is bringing you more action than ever. Want more ways to follow your faves? Check out our new player prop tracking

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republican networks that trump's going on um there's no law potentially against you know if they did this like a legal thing, right? Right. Like you just have a judge in the middle. Sealed questions. He's a constitutional judge. And then you have sealed questions and they're overseen by a committee of blah, blah, blah. Like wouldn't that be a much better move?

And I guess people could be like, oh, you're just nitpicking now. I'm sure they didn't get it. That's just bullshit. She just did a lot better and he had to do what he did. But the fuckery is the problem. And if there's no oversight, where is it? Like, they totally get, they gave Biden the questions last debate. They did it. How do you know?

Well, same, same sort of thing. One of his aides came out and said, yeah, we've had the questions for like three weeks. And he prepared, prepared his responses and I'm, and that's what happened this time. That doesn't, it doesn't, I mean mean doesn't change anything. No, not really, but it goes to show you about the bias nature of it's not a debate. But it does it does change something that's not a debate if if I mean I guess it could be if both sides got equal time with the questions that would be reasonable. You know, that would be reasonable. That actually is how debates work.

Like high school and college and stuff. Well, so we don't think Trump got him? I hope he would have done a little better if he had him. But they both know the talking points, so it's kind of- I mean, that's the thing, right? And ultimately Trump just turned him to whatever talking points he wanted to discuss, which is like the immigration thing. Right.

And turn it back to that and focus on how she sucks at the immigration bit, which, you know, seems reasonable. And how she plans on changing that, I don't know. She hasn't. So I guess it depends on what's more important to you with it. Well, the first day Biden was in office, he overturned every single stop gap measure to close the border. And after he did that 10 million people walked in that we know of.

So yeah, but supposedly they had this really good bill that, um, Trump squashed and I don't know enough about that, but I they had this really good bill that, um, Trump squashed. And I don't know enough about that, but I've heard from my liberal friends that that was a great, um, bill that was going to create more sensible measures. And, but who's to know if they didn't get to run it like yeah I even say that yeah it sucks when they tie a bunch of stuff into bills and I guess it wasn't the case for that one I'll have to take a look at that it's almost a year you're old now so mm-hmm what does it matter but either way it's some

sketchy politics you know I mean's like, I don't know. Why would they do that? I really need to go from that. Why? Why do we need a bill? We already had all these measures. So you are going to plug it now, now that you've let them all in, we're going to. Now this bill is up for up on the table. We can, we can hold them to the bolts.

They had done, you know, they did something bad. Just because this bill didn't fix it this time. It's like, well, you still did something bad by just letting it open. Yeah, it makes me think for sure. It's just like, you know, especially if you like created all these measures, they close them, then they create a new bill that has basically the same rules in that the other party would then get credit for.

It's like, I kind of understand why parties would crush each other's bills that may not then even be in the best, um, uh, like regard for the country, though I don't like it. I feel like no matter what, that should always be the first rule of either party is like, if this is the best thing, we do this because country first, country first. And then you still can squalor about your politics afterwards, but good luck. They don't want to give either side. Your side does not want to give the other side credit for anything. And it's, it's it's really messing us up.

It's a mess. All right, let's, let's jump over to the non little guys, the aliens, UFOs, the ultimate overlords of us all, whether we like to admit it or not, potentially, allegedly. So Brett is not that keen on him. He's like aliens again. He's like, Joe, Joe, they, he's just happy to know talking about elk. Um, yeah, he's like, I, well, one thing he said is he doesn't think they're bad. So that's optimistic, but he's also very suspicious of governments. And he's like, yeah, I think this just might be our technology in some way, right?

Even, even if it, and it fits with the narrative, like maybe we have the ships, we reverse engineered it and all the new. Footage is just us fucking with things. I mean, he was pretty sure that we could be tampering with the radar data. And, you know, I mean, look, he's a biologist, right? He's not like a radar guy, but he's just looking at behaviors of the government in the past and what they're capable of, what they're likely to do, you know, or what they have done.

And I kind of wouldn't put it past them. It's like, I don't want to say that everything that they say to us is a lie, but I want to be suspicious of it. And I think most people should be, we shouldn't just take what they give us and be like, yeah, that's, everything's true. I mean, it's all fucking, they probably did. It's all a style. Do they've been propaganda machines since the beginning of time. They're getting better and better at it.

Well, if it is aliens, it's I mean, could have used to been aliens are on rock carvings and stuff. And now now we have their ships. Now it's us. But either way, there's aliens. We got to just, we're on the alien side. There's some aliens here. What did you think about him saying diseases have changed? So obviously they go into COVID quite heavy, but he's talking about people getting sick in the summer, the vaccine produces, what is it called globule hemoglobins? No, something close to that.

Delta globules or something like that, that suppress your immune system. And then, and they're more effective the more shots you get. So people with more shots are getting sick more because their immune systems constantly being suppressed by these proteins, lipids rather. But do you know people that are getting sick in the summer? Like anyone that you know that is like generally healthy that got real sick this summer? Uh, geez, I just don't, I don't talk to them. I mean, I felt fine. I didn't get, yeah.

No, I didn't. You did my family. My brother was sick, um sick about two months ago. He does he does get the boosters and stuff. I don't know where he is at with it now. I try not to talk about that stuff with the family because you want to keep them as family. They will hate you. They will hate you.

I don't want to. People even listening to us just discussing this will hate you. They will hate you. People even listening to us just discussing this will hate us. We could have skipped to the next thing, but you know, it's like, look, it's okay. You can get mad, right? Just have faith that this is conversations and we haven't made our minds up either. We're working on it, but I don't want a six-month-old to eat it. He's a biologist. Like he knows a lot more about disease than we do. And he's saying this is happening.

And I don't think that he's making it up. Now, is it connected? You know, causation and all the rest of it. It's like, is it a direct line? Yeah. I think that's where it gets tricky. It's like when, when not to know, but it's something to look out for, I think. And I think it's a question like whether we want to have it or not, like look around this

summer, talk to your family, you know, look at your parents or your grandparents and see, hey, were people getting sicker this summer than usual? Does this seem to make sense? And it would have been every summer since the vaccines as well. It would have been, you know, not just this one, it would have been the previous summers up until 2020. Right. Or maybe it just got progressively worse. I guess because the more, the more you get, the more you're sick. And like Fauci got, he got West Nile. It's like, where's that guy? How does that guy get West Nile?

He's been in the swamps, dude. The DC swamp. Down in the D. Yeah, we got to. We got to we got to empty the swamp, bro. Yeah, they used to they used to spray that stuff in Rockport, Texas, when I used to live down there. Really? I come through two, three in the morning, just pumping out poison.

No shit. Cause it was just tons of canals and mosquitoes down there, but they haven't done that in years though. You got to, you got to stop those mosquitoes though. That's a good move, I think. And you know, I would like us to get better at it, but those fuckers are hard to kill. Well, is it the West Nile that gives you your baby's encephalitis? Or what is that called when it's microcephaly, when they have a little head?

Or is it the poisons that we use to kill the mosquitoes? That's what he was he was getting into that stuff, too. Oh, no, I think the little head is that thing in Brazil. Oh, Zika. What was that called? Yeah, Zika. But still, is it the poison that we're using to kill these mosquitoes with, or is it the Zika virus?

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Yeah. Isn't the- You know, some of this is like arguments that are like, hey, we're doing our best type of thing, as well. Right. Yeah. It's like... Is the medicine worse than the disease?

It's so easy to just be like, after the fact, oh yeah, we fucked all that up. We gotta try it, though. And like, what level of scrutiny do we check before we initiate something? And I guess that's always the argument, right? Some people are like, no, the scientists are on it. They've got it. I trust them. Other people are like, no, they suck and they are miles away and hold them accountable. But I think ultimately the system we have is good.

Like no one should be on all of one side. You shouldn't be completely mistrusting and also completely trust that like that's both of those sides would be bad. Got to have people that are like, right, you're going to be held accountable for this. Also do a good job and we'll give you the resources you need. You don't get 75 years of immunity though. That's what's wrong with that shit because it doesn't, that has no gap for human error accountability. No, they knew it was going to be bad for us. That's why they have those 75 years of, of, uh, hidden papers.

Yeah. All they had suspicions, you know, at least the current CEOs wanted to make sure that they cashed out their fucking chips before, you know, the thunder came. They cast their chips out and then they moved on over to government roles in the FDA. And they did. I mean, isn't that, we've seen that time and time again where these huge corporations in the medical industry, CEOs, well, usually you're FDA and then you move to private and make a lot of money.

That's right. That's what it is. So they're already in private this lot. So now they're just cash in our big time. They probably were previously FDA. All right. Well let's finish up with him and let's talk about his seven or eight pillars. I can't remember how many pillars he had for this movement in government. Um, he seems very suspicious about the way things are being run. Like that there is, there is an active movement to kind of really control and hold all power that's beyond just elections.

And that's what I was getting from it. And he broke down what is important and what we need. Went through his different pillars of it. It all seemed reasonable to me. You know, he wants a bunch of people to show up to DC. What was the name of the thing? Something dog resistance. Dole resistance. You know, I'd like to see a good turn out there.

It would be interesting even if it's just to like raise the question and show the government that, Hey, people are paying attention. Like you're not going to be able to get away with it this easy. And if it's not happening, then what harm does it play? It's like, maybe they can all just agree on those pillars. Cause that's what we'd like to think the government cares about. Um, actual governance, what people want. He seems very suspicious of the current situation and, and a lot of

what is happening, you is happening on the left. It's interesting the left has now become the big, you know, Republicans were previously the ones that started and kept wars going. And they were the ones who previously had been all about big business, not that they're not anymore, but it has totally switched. And the Democrats are the warmongers now and the ones that perpetuate for like big business and was that part of one of his pillars? I mean oversight committee things. I mean Trump has talked about having Elon come on as a role to like basically go through and evaluate each government agency, almost like he did with Twitter, and, you know, make them efficient. And that's really interesting to me.

That would be fascinating to like, even if even if you don't follow through with everything that he comes out with, like not to say that he knows everything, but like if he just gives like a breakdown, he's like, okay, this is what the DMV looks like. This is what this looks like. This is what the EPA looks like. This is where the waste is that we see. You make your mind up, but like, you know, if you start getting some numbers that are like, oh, it's like 60% just bureaucratic bullshit and nothing getting done. It's like, hold on a second.

Like why is the answer always just tax us? Oh, tax us or tax the richest ones or tax someone. It's always just that. It's like, maybe we're just like pouring shit into the gut. It's money is going down the drain. of the gut. It's money is going down the drain. 80,000 plus new IRS agents are swearing in.

Yeah, and do you really believe that they're going to be going after billionaires? Like good luck getting billionaires money, right? You know where those people are going to be getting money? From people that can't even afford lawyers. And they're going to milk them. They're going to go after everyone goes after the E it's the path of least resistance. So what's going to happen? I guess every government agency has always been so ineffective. They are going to go after the easiest stuff first. And that's you and me, buddy. Right. And look, it's if you listen to this and you're like, that's bullshit,

that's not how it's going to be. It's going to be the, I'm like, okay, it's fine. You can agree with something different. However, like give me an example of when that's happened. Like how many IRS agents do you think it would take to really get some sort of billionaire who probably has a hundred lawyers working full time to make sure everything fits all the loopholes that they can get a hold of. Or you can get those same amount of IRS agents, right? Back to school signals

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their bills. Like they can have a much better shot at getting money in that direction. That's just my guess. But that makes a lot of sense because they do all they all do play by the rules. But in those rules may be unfair, but they are protected by the law. Yeah. I mean, you can, you can scrutinize, uh, people that own their own businesses, you know, because they have write offs, but they're also trying to like, you know, I'm not saying that there's a bunch of like tax evaders in the middle class, but you know, if you own your own business, maybe you don't fully understand what your write-offs can be or how you should be paying your employees or how tight all your payroll is.

There's a way to like see this. And you know, one agent can come in and audit you in a few months and just make it very difficult. I don't know. Yeah. And ruin a pizzeria. There's one, there's one reason. There's one that's like the biggest reason why 90% of restaurants and small businesses

fail during startup is because the tax codes, the payroll taxes, there's six kind of taxes you got to pay. Right. I had a friend just dropped $22,000 on his business that doesn't have that profit. And if he doesn't pay it, he gets it's prepaying his taxes. If he doesn't pay the prepaid taxes, he gets a penalty on his taxes every quarter. It's like, and he's just everything he does is like, instead of making his business better, crafting a delicious product, he hasn't become his own tax lawyer. And now he has to hire lawyers.

Which is... ALICE Right. Sure. And it might just get to a point where he's like, you know what, it's easy to just close this business. You know, like we saw during Covid where like 70% of small business owners that had restaurants in California closed. Right? It's like McDonald's and the big ones, the chains took over big time, and that's just big business.

It's business for you. Big business like, profited massively during that time, which is the most anti democratic thing that we know of. But talk about during this time, talking about diversity, which is the rally, the war cry of the left right now. They, those policies have decreased diversity in restaurants, in businesses. Now we have homogenized culture with just big-buck stores everywhere. Buy mom, pop restaurants. How diverse is that? You're disenfranchising the middle class.

Yeah. And that's always a problem. When that starts to happen at an alarming rate, that's when things get bad. It's happened all through history. It's not good. And, you know, then you just get that separation of super rich and powerful, and then everyone else is just struggling. And, yeah. Ugly. That's revolution talk right there. Take it easy. Allegedly. All right. So, uh, I wanted to get on to Chris Harris, but we're not going to have time. Maybe we'll hit him out next week, but, uh, we're going to call it for now.

And thanks everyone for listening. Pete, as always pleasure. It's a good one. Brett had a lot of important points I wanted to go over. And, uh, he's always a good listen. Oh, he is. He is. And you know, he's becoming somewhat more of a divisive figure, but I think that's because his voice is getting bigger. And if you then again, say anything that doesn't fit a narrative that

everybody wants to hear, they want to call you crazy and yeah, good luck with that. So anyway, everyone, thank you. We appreciate you. Pete legend. Let's talk soon. Later. Bye.