Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 8: The Joe Rogan Experience Reviewed

Episode Date: July 11, 2018

This week we have Theo Von, Josh Barnett and Tony Rock on JRE to be reviewed. My guest was Eddie and we delve drop into the world of Joe Rogan..   Enjoy!  ...

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Starting point is 00:00:29 mayor de dad. All right, hello and welcome to podcast eight. This is week 28 of the year. This year is flying by just when you think it just started. It's all I'm barely getting used to writing down 2018 on things and soon it's gonna change and I'll get it wrong again um This podcast is the JRE review the Joe Rogan Experience review of the week what I do here and oftentimes with a guest is I continue the conversation of the Joe Rogan Experience so we listen to
Starting point is 00:01:06 I continue the conversation with the Joe Rogan experience. So we listen to the podcast for the week and And then just kind of break them down things that were interesting things that I like talking about that other people do and we get into it with other fans and other listeners or just really anyone who wants to Come on my podcast and talk about this stuff. I'm joined today by my good buddy Eddie. He's been on before Hi guys, how you doing? Thank you so much for having me out of this question. Thanks for coming and we're here in sunny Santa Monica Sweating on balls off in the heat I was gonna have some fans on because I just do not do well with a heat But it's too noisy and it makes all of the podcasts sound shitty so
Starting point is 00:01:49 For the sake of quality I will be sweating profusely Throughout this whole thing you're welcome. You're welcome, and you also welcome Eddie. Thank you It's fucking hot. What is the temperature Alexa? What's the temperature? Right now it's 75 hot. What is the temperature? Alexa, what's the temperature? Right now it's 75 degrees. Oh Alexa doesn't know anything. It was not true. At least 12 more degrees. This podcast will now never be sponsored by Amazon ever All right, so Joe had on this week Actually, what I did is I kind of split the week up. So last week Joe had on Theo Vaughn, the end of last week and I did up to that.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Theo Vaughn, if you're a Joe Rogan listener, you know that he's a stand-up comedian, very funny dude. Super nice guy. I've spoke to him a few times at the comedy store and he really is one of the most approachable, nicest, friendliest and coolest guys and very funny. You know, you meet those kind of like odd characters sometimes that say funny things and they do it kind of all the time. They can always find the absurdity in anything and Theo is definitely one of those guys. He is terrific at just observing a very normal event and coming out with something really bizarre and I love talking to this guy he's fantastic. That's the best
Starting point is 00:03:15 to listen to. Oh yeah because we all get too serious man. We all get too serious. And it's a creative tool. You're kind of you're thinking this you know like oh I never thought of that and get a little chuckle Yeah, well, he's trained to do it, you know, he's this is what he does for a living So he's constantly trying to like extract the comedy out of everything which takes a lot of practice It's kind of exhausting but once you get in that gear It must be really entertaining even even a little bit kind of crazy at the same time But maybe that's what makes you good comedian. I'm sure you could have I'm sure you could have
Starting point is 00:03:48 come up with something pretty good if you got some of that vanilla latte that you just had at the coffee bean. Oh yeah yeah guys I just met Eddie down and got a coffee and I ordered one and it was literally the worst coffee I've ever had in my life. I can't even describe why it's so bad. It's like it's 90% vanilla syrup or something. I don't know, I'm gonna have to. Maybe she was trigger happy. Yeah, she got excited.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I shouldn't have said the word tomato to us so many times. Yeah, so with Theo, he started the podcast just by, he getting in a movie is actually like movies that he loved, movies from the past. One of the really good ones was Mars Attacks, remember that movie? Like that's many years ago, but it's a fucking hilarious movie. So it's kind of like a 1950s spoof, right? So it's like those cheesy alien invasion movies from the 1950s where the aliens have the big heads and the glass Things and the little laser Zappy guns like hot model come on
Starting point is 00:04:54 And the aliens are Yeah, and and Jack Nicholson and plays the president But he also plays like another role and it's clearly him as well, which I think is also a play on like 50s movies, because maybe sometimes they would put like the main bad guy would also be the good guy as an actor. Just switch like that.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Yeah, just in a like a, yeah, exactly. They give him a different hat, and that's it. He's an actor, doesn't say it at all. A little, a little budget, Like, hold on a second. The other actor didn't show up. Yeah. You're this guy. But I love those. I love that retro feel of when they bring back a movie
Starting point is 00:05:33 or they make a new version of it, but it's in an older feel, like, stranger things. Right, the TV show. Yeah, yeah. That's great because we all love it, because it's like the 80s. It's like being in the 80s again. It's like I want to watch it and then afterwards go
Starting point is 00:05:48 outside, get on my BMX and go jump some raps in the woods with my friends. We are like watching like Goonies or something. Yeah, yeah. Like kind of stuff with that, the Kays and stuff. You're like, yeah, you're like a little kid. Exactly. And I love that they kind of, when they bring those sorts of things back and I'm sure that movie did a very similar thing in the sense of like I mean even you take Guardians of the Galaxy is done that too because Didn't they they like kidnap the main guy?
Starting point is 00:06:21 They aliens they like in the 80s so that he's kind of stuck in the 80s, even though he's in the future in space. Because he has this little like tape recorder. And he plays that and it's like some 80s soundtrack that he listens to. And yeah, there's, you have to go back, even like with Space Balls, where the middle approach was good.
Starting point is 00:06:38 And you had a, remember that? Oh yeah, Space Balls is fucking a little. He's just forged. Oh, he used the shorts. That movie was, movie was fantastic. I mean, Miranda sent a little tiny, yeah. We have a little, he's like this. Those guys, they're like, we need to comb the desert.
Starting point is 00:06:54 And they're out there with giant cones. And he gets the last guy. He's just one black dude with an afro comb. They're like, you find anything he goes, we have found a shit. It just breaks. There's so many bits like that in my mouth. But much more as a little kid, you find anything, you go, we found shit. It just breaks. There's so many bits like that. But much of that is a little kid, you're like, is that supposed to be the funny?
Starting point is 00:07:10 Oh, that's good. Have you ever seen history of the world? Heart-worn. Oh, yeah, yeah. That still makes me laugh so hard. That's a great thing. It's a bit dated now. It's like if you get younger people to watch it,
Starting point is 00:07:21 it's harder for them to get it, you know? Yeah, but for us, it's... But the days are brum, the sned, everything going on. It was Caesar and then you do have the one guy with the afro, he has a jukebox playing funky town, just walking past. And you're like, what is it? What's wrong?
Starting point is 00:07:38 You're like, funky town. He, he, Mel Brooks is like on the edge of ridiculousness, for sure. Yeah. But ridiculousness exists. I mean, look at Guardians of the Galaxy. Isn't there a raccoon in that? There is.
Starting point is 00:07:49 He's like, that has a voice. And it's the guy from, I had the hangover, the good looking one. Oh, it's his name. Uh, he's been at everything. I know your top. Yeah, yeah, he's in tons of stuff. Anyway, he does the voice.
Starting point is 00:08:02 So he doesn't even get to be in it. He just does the voice. And, And you know talking about raccoons The fucking everywhere man. I saw one of them the other day just coming down ocean One just ran just jumped straight into the track and like into the sewer bit You know when that would open up next to the pavements? Of course, yeah Yeah, and Joe and Theo were talking about the same thing They were talking about how these fucking things are everywhere and you don't think about it because when you almost never see him but you know But two you should because they're big
Starting point is 00:08:34 They're like the size of a dog and they can go into your trash I mean they can go everywhere they can clone your roof like why is this not a bigger problem? Or actually go into they where people have for their dogs and just crawling the little doggy door Do they go in that and they have Some pretty wild so we're down the beach it was at night. Everyone's having beers down it And I didn't and with Mary where I like it was like a foggy day and that night and it was like did What I just there was two coyotes walking the boardwalk.
Starting point is 00:09:07 And it was like, it was like 11 at night and we're like, did I just see that? And it was like, can you imagine if you've been drinking, if you're walking with a little kid, and there's two coyotes coming at you on the beach? Are you sure they were coyotes? They were coyotes. Yeah, because I guess they've done it before. Oh wow. They were told, yeah, this happens sometimes, where they venture, you know, from all of it
Starting point is 00:09:26 from Malibur, they come and they get lost, whatever, next, you know, they're looking for food. They're scary looking. Yeah. They look like really nasty German shepherds, don't they? They're just like, you're sitting down and I had too much and all of a sudden there's two kales. But it's what we don't think about. They are everywhere.
Starting point is 00:09:44 They really are. I mean, another food, like for example, in the past, you know, the Roman times, right? They were talking, and Joe and Theo were talking about like the gladiator tournaments, right? So where, when we think of these things, like even a coyote, you're like, oh, I could just kick a coyote on the head. No, they probably fuck you up.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Like big dogs will fuck you up. Almost everything will, right? But then back in those days, they would put people up against lions. Like they'd give them a sword and a shield and you'd go against the 500 pound cat. And it's like clearly you're going to get fucked up. Like how many people with swords and shields do you think it would take to kill one lion? That's a great, it's just a topic. It's a topic. He's gonna keep on coming at you. Dude, it's gonna be a flesh from every time
Starting point is 00:10:30 you get him a little bit and then it's a- Dude, they move so fast, you wouldn't even get him, probably. If you ever seen him swipe, when they're like, woo! I mean, it's like faster than a boxer. It's like a Bruce Lee, they have that reach too. Yeah, it's kind of like, ooh, did I just get it?
Starting point is 00:10:47 But that's the thing was so removed from these things that we don't even know really what they are. Imagine a raccoon, right? It's just a raccoon, but it's in this room and it's pissed and it can't get out. What the fuck are you gonna do? Nothing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:02 But at best, you'll throw a blanket over it and you'll be kicking it or running away or you'll throw a blanket over it, and you'll, you should, you'll run away, you're not going to jump on it. That thing will tear through that blanket. But the thing is, once you kick him, you're going to make in the hot weather, he would, he would lose his mind. Yeah, he's, well, yeah. And then he's got to find his way out of here.
Starting point is 00:11:17 So it's like, you open your door and you're like, actually, it's this way, buddy. I mean, when you do put little cheese. Yeah, then no, yeah, they're just going to attack you. Well, the, the biggest thing, and it's something that I've talked about on this before, and Joe talks about all the time, is a bear attack that some of his professional hunter buddies have to deal with. Right? So he has a body called Steve Vanello, who Steve Vanello is a world class hunter. Went, it has a hunting show called Me Tita
Starting point is 00:11:47 and I think Apex Warrior, like on Discovery or the fucking hunting channel, whatever, great though. It's really interesting, he knows this stuff. He went with a bunch of other world class hunters, right? So there's like, I think there's like eight of them in camp. Everyone has their macho story of like what they do, right? Like, if I'm on a plane and some terrorists are there, this is what I do.
Starting point is 00:12:09 If I'm in a mall and there's a shooter, this is what I do. Like every man just has this like, it's like, it's like why every guy thinks he knows how to fight when he does it. It's just like we have to have it in our mind otherwise our ego collapses. If we just walked around all day,
Starting point is 00:12:22 realizing how much of a bitch we really are. We have no confidence, it was suck. We. We go let's get a fucking everything so So you know, but these world-class hunters you kind of think well they're allowed to have their Theory of like what to do of a bear attack like they know and they'll be at a killer and of course they're the best dude They kill an elk It's like hanging from a tree or whatever they do with it While they were gone, I guess a bear came and claimed the elk but like fucked off again to take a shit or whatever Best do do his emails and he comes back while they're in camp
Starting point is 00:12:59 Charges through the camp. Oh he ran. These things can move so fast But luckily there was so many of them that it didn't know which way to go It didn't know who to chase because it was like eight people so it got confused if there was just like one or two We're just eating both Dude it ran through knocking them over Snapping in their faces ended up running down a hill one of these guys on his back because it just like you know He got hit by it. Yeah. No one got a shot off.
Starting point is 00:13:26 No one got to their guns. One dude to hit it with a ski pole and it fucked off. And they were all just left there like, oh my god. Let's not forget. And those are hunters. People are just always like, save the bears. And I'm like, you wouldn't be saving shit if they were in your neighborhood. If they were near your kids, if you saw one of them flip over a
Starting point is 00:13:46 Car he'd be like these things got to go He's got to go cuz we have not strong You're like a happy with you know some other people smoking whatever you're like hey good I got a subway sandwich. I got you know this now you're eating it and you just turn to your left You feel something it's like this grizzly bear just looking at you. I mean, you're done. You're about to fucking head off. They won't even give us shit.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Hey man, relax. We are so stupid in like physical capacity next to a bear. It's something else. And I'm not saying we, they're not amazing and we should take care of them. I think that they should have lots of habitats. Just know when near anywhere I go. Ever.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Thank you. Maybe this is it. It's kind of like dropping it. What do we, dropping it tiger off in the city and just, how everyone, I mean, right? What, dropping them just let them lose sight of down to them. Yeah, Jesus. I mean, it's not good.
Starting point is 00:14:40 It can't be where we are. There's a reason we don't allow those things to happen. We are scared of them. Because they fucking kill us. And you put all the different people like on their phones, got done with this and also there's just a tiger sitting right there. You know, everyone's so like,
Starting point is 00:14:55 they probably wouldn't even notice. They carry on sending fucking food until that thing. Or doing a food selfie with the tiger. As he's like, Hey, have you ever thought of doing a 23 and me DNA test You know you've heard of these is that where I find out my ancestors are I thought about it. What is your background? Well gypsy? Well, I'm actually but
Starting point is 00:15:20 mostly Polish actually my It'd be interesting. Oh, so I spot on them. Yeah, yeah Can you tell my so you so you you polish and almost like I guess both sides to my grandfather with my name I'm a third at worst Charles Vincent the third But my grandfather came from Ellis Island as a little kid you know, from Poland, during everything going on, right over there. And so actually, when he came as an orphan, like the nuns gave him that name. So technically, my name is even real.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Oh, sure. So it'd be interesting. At the same time, I think a little bit of a little bit. Well, it's not ancestry tree, it doesn't give you your name. 23 of me is DNA. It just shows like what parts of whatever you are like you could be like partially in the undertone and it will show I would see
Starting point is 00:16:10 that yeah it's like percentages of what it's funny because when I see a volumous on the podcast he was like I don't I don't care what it says I just don't want to be French oh that is yeah that's just like so original like all the things like I don't even think it says old French it would just say like no then you're You know, it would be funny too if like one of like a certain like that Maybe it tease all the time that kind of stuff and they're like hey, they came back. You're There goes my routine. Well, what happens if it came back with a big question mark? And it's like you're pot alien. You're like, oh wait what? They're like we need to take
Starting point is 00:16:47 your way. Something is like coming for you like I should have never done that that. I just don't know what people are getting out of it. Apart from like just a tiny bit of curiosity, what is it doing? You know what I mean I guess I'm okay with not knowing. I guess I have a pretty good idea. You know what I mean? It doesn't matter, right? Let's not know the way aliens talk about aliens. Best sci-fi movie of all time, aliens one. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:17:13 What is that? Sci-fi horror. Is that how you define it? I don't even know how you define that. Do you remember the thing? That was pretty scary. God, that was good. That's good.
Starting point is 00:17:24 That's good. That's good? God that was good. That's getting was good Yeah, really good in the like the Arctic right yeah, and the alien came and who is the guy the main guy? I like that dude. It's been so was it not good rossal was Yeah, no, no Kirt Russell It was scared. I mean as a kid I've ever seen that and it came out when cables started coming on early 80s and actually you scared me when that guys chest opened up and like it but it was up that the 80s were really good and making hard I think what was making it good they were like the special effects
Starting point is 00:17:57 when you watch them now it's easy but back then it was like really because it was a lot of like that slow mo kind of like crab walking alien like looking like it was What do they call that time lapse camera stuff? It was like models right and they make a move And it would be like And then also the suspense too And they were really awesome. You know they have the camera angles over there the persons who hear something else I want a shadow's that's right because they didn't have the CG. I didn't have the spells to affect.
Starting point is 00:18:26 So they have to see it up. Be careful. I think that's why I liked aliens won so much. They never even showed that whole alien to like that. It was just like the face, or an arm, or leg. Predator, they did the predator a bit like that too. They really set those up well. The suspense, when you kind of see it,
Starting point is 00:18:43 when you're just like, and usually so, I'm sure that when they did it, they made it so that that alien was, hey, this is it's time to shine. Let's just doll it up like the best we can. And then when you do see it, it's like, you know what I mean? It's kind of like a... But by the second aliens, they'd shown it.
Starting point is 00:18:59 So they were just throwing those aliens out and left them right. You know, those Marines killed like a thousand aliens. Yet in the first one, you couldn't even kill one, because they were just throwing those aliens out and left them right. You know, those Marines killed like a thousand aliens. Yet in the first one, you couldn't even kill one because they were so smart. It just, it lost a bit, I think the second one. It was like, so much of that suspense was gone in a way. The fight in the end was good though. Even with my sister was into like horror films, right? I was and it was just the suspense and like, the original like,
Starting point is 00:19:23 Friday the 13th and all of the suspense kind of came up, we were even like you're checking a room, whether it's an alien or it's that kind of stuff. Like, is it, oh, it's not there? And then all of a sudden, you can see a shadow, right? You just see a foot or whatever, and you're like, turn around. You see, do you still get that now?
Starting point is 00:19:41 You watch a horror movie now, and then at the end of it, you just like pulls for a second and you're like I'm just gonna turn a few lights on I really don't like the horror movies. I just I remember seeing We were told not to watch but my cousin I watched When we saw the extra cyst You know and that was that seems so real too, you know, at the time. But, or even like, what was it? Texas Chainsaw Masker.
Starting point is 00:20:10 You know, that kind of stuff is just, because some of this stuff can be so real too. It's like the way they shot it. I don't know if there's just low budget or whatever, but. What was it? Texas Chainsaw. That wasn't based on anything real, right? Actually, I believe it was. It was? I believe it was, yeah. So somebody wore someone's skin on their face,
Starting point is 00:20:31 it was a mask, and then chop people up with a chainsaw, it sounds too perfect for a movie, for that to be real. And the fact that it happened in Texas too, where you like, you just know out there that like there's gonna be weird towns, because it's so big and fast You know I was just talking to my other day where just we have the serial killers They come from all the Midwest area where I'm from which it's just changed Chicago if you think about it Yeah, it's I don't know I guess I'm sure back in the day all that weird stuff happened because how would you know right maybe your serial killer?
Starting point is 00:21:04 I may be my other life. As long as we don't find out during this podcast I'm cool without whatever. I know you're just mad. Alright next up on Joe for the week was his MMA show MMA 34 he is flying through these MMA shows I mean the, the speed that Joe Rogan could put out podcasts that are like three hours each is absolutely phenomenal. Like, it seems effortless, but it can't be. It's so impressive the way he does it. So he has a new line of podcasts that he's doing, and it's an MMA line, so he numbers them differently.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Josh Barnett is UFC fighter, an ex fighter. He is the youngest ever UFC heavyweight champion or maybe the youngest champ ever, I think he was 23. He's done it all, the guys like 40 now, very smart guy, bit of a philosopher, you know, tough to love muscle cars. And yeah, again, really great conversation and so cool to like hear somebody talk, you know, in that kind of long form way, you just get to know who they are.
Starting point is 00:22:12 It's easy to just judge someone to be like, oh, they're in the head because they're a fighter. And then you learn some like clever shit about them and you're like, oh, wow, this guy is really fucking interesting. But, uh, yeah, I mean, the first thing they got into was that love of muscle cars. And really, who doesn't love muscle cars? Of course. One of my favorite things about moving to America when I first did is like getting the chance to see muscle cars. And, uh, I remember when I saw my first Mustang Mach 1. It was like, I think it was like 60s car. I mean it was just like nothing I'd ever seen and the fact that like 70s and especially 80s muscle cars are so much worse
Starting point is 00:22:57 He just like what happened what happened to the design like how did they fucking let it fall off like that? It's just everyone doing so much coke in the 80s. They forgot to design fucking cars. How is it? My buddy has a really cool shop rep at the airport. He does all classic cars. Oh, sweet. Yeah, in fact, I'll take you by this sometimes.
Starting point is 00:23:17 You want to check out. For sure, yeah. That's right by one of the hangers. But he has all these amazing old muscle cars. And I had like Steve McQueen's old car over there nice old Corvettes And I just go in there. He just kind of you look at how it's made the pure steel and just you know to mean the engines He look at it. It's just And we just and we can still work on them too. Yeah, you can work on them yourself
Starting point is 00:23:38 Yeah, that's even just beautiful works of art and it's's like, you know they're that good because modern cars, you know, in a lot of ways, they're like reviving the muscle car era. They're trying to bring back the new cars with that muscle car feel. There was just something amazing about that time. It was like, wow, what is this? And into me being English, it like encapsulated something truly American, truly unique and American and it kind of represented, you know, the power, the size, the noise, the hurr, I mean it was an
Starting point is 00:24:12 anana, it was like we have the you know the biggest dogs, you know what I mean? It was just like, it was something... Well, you know what I love to try, like watching the older movies like that, and they show the muscle car and just the way the sound is and the way it's revenue and how it takes off or a car chase You know what I mean Steve McQueen and bullet in how yeah, and how you're how he's handling it and you're just like going Oh, man, you can feel the intensity because it's such a passion Right and you're not even wearing seat belts. It's just they're just oh, no, I have no there's no crumbles on you fucking dead exactly You only survived that if you're a real man Eddie
Starting point is 00:24:48 Real man you just lock those arms out straight and you say I can take this trion What that old Stephen Queen movie is running from the Nazis with the motorcycle memory takes it This kid what she actually made that himself he did that jump No shit. Yeah, there was he there was no stuntman He goes, I'm doing it fuck that he cleared that himself. Oh my god, which is Yeah, rap is not doing that No, no, no, no, you know George Clooney. Yeah, yeah, no chance. He's getting his nails down while someone flips over that He's like, I don't even fucking manicured here. Plug my eyebrows, please Exactly. Well, but it is what beautiful, right? So look at America.
Starting point is 00:25:25 And we're talking about a piece of it, something powerful. But the rest of the world is way fucking older when it comes to like its history. And I'm not taking anything away from like Native Americans that lived here. They have a huge history that's massively diverse and extremely interesting and fascinating. But when you
Starting point is 00:25:45 look at the crux of like the majorly developed United States, as we know it, from like 1600, 1700 to now, it's very new. So it has a short history, but a hugely complex culture in a sense, because when you're looking at something like Europe, England or China, or like these, these cultures have been around for thousands of years. So they do the Jerusalem, all those places. Yeah, they have to, they develop on top of development. It's like, we do this because we're like this. Well, America can redefine it all the time.
Starting point is 00:26:19 So they can make like boldest statements that become this is what America is. Or even just back something down and go, hey look, we build it even bigger. But look at what? Look at movies. No other country makes movies like America does. Not even close. We make movies.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Other, I mean, we, I'm a citizen. So I say we when I talk about America because I've lived here forever. But it's just that, other countries will even copy the style of movies, not all of them, but in a lot of ways they will. It's like America has that down. Not only does it have also the biggest military,
Starting point is 00:26:59 and also when you think of famous musicians, mostly American musicians. Like, it's like, not to say the rest of the world doesn't have music, but it just doesn't transcend the whole planet in the same way. Now, clothing, Nike, brands of so many things, Apple. Like, it's not just because America has the most money. It's something to do with this modern young culture. It exists that just the rest of the world won't be so good. I'll tell you being from Chicago, when Michael Jordan, I remember that when he was rookie
Starting point is 00:27:37 and Nike gave him his own deal, which would like blew everything out of the water and like everybody had to have air Jordans in the 80s You know, yeah, it was like and it was like It's a supersized his contract yet this going on but like everybody all over the world all of a sudden had to have Air Jordan. Yeah, I bought a pair. Yeah, I lived in England. I was nine years old I bought a pair for 99 pounds, I bought it on a payment plan where I paid two pounds a week. Oh, sure, it's there. And they had like, it was, they were badass.
Starting point is 00:28:11 They had like this like, jigsaw puzzle, different colors underneath on the base. I didn't play basketball, almost no one I knew played basketball in England. Why the fuck did I want those things? But I did. I will, I remember wanting them so fucking bad. When I got them, it was one of those
Starting point is 00:28:28 where I was like cleaning them every time I scuffed them, every just older, so they were a prized possession. Like the fact that they even had to go on my feet was a shame. If I could have worn my hands to keep them clean, I would have done it. And you know, around the same time, too, go back with music.
Starting point is 00:28:43 I remember with the Jordans, then you had Michael Jackson with the glove. Like, I'll just send everyone on the world, right? Remember, I had two kids had a glove on their one hand. Uh-huh. Yeah, it's just something magical about those people that needs to be emulated. You're like, I want to be magic too. Maybe if I get their shit and dress like them, I'll be that way. I can write. It makes sense. You kind of emulate a little bit. I mean, it's like copying your dad when you see him do something. You want to be like that. You know, it's like this, this only makes sense.
Starting point is 00:29:15 And you know, and I think some of it speaks to the freedom and the fact that we, you know, in the United States, you can do so much, right? Okay, it leaves you open to like lunatics doing things, but at least we have the freedom to express ourselves. However you want. Because on the Josh Barnett podcast with Joe, they were talking about how a girl in Egypt there was 22 years old made a video about sexual harassment,
Starting point is 00:29:43 showing like what it's like and how awful it is in Egypt. She got jailed for eight years for that. She's 22. Oh my God. So you talk about the opposite of expressions, you know, I mean it's horrendous. And you know, Jo even hits on it, right? There is Islamophobia that exists. And any racism or prejudice or hatred is a bad thing. Well, you know this, you can't be selective about it. But we should also remember that some of these extreme Muslim countries are pretty fucked up
Starting point is 00:30:18 to women and homosexuals. And, you know, that should be talked about too. You can just sit there and be like, no, no, no, but that's their coach, we gotta let him do it. She's fucking 22. She made a video. She's trying to express herself.
Starting point is 00:30:32 She's a baby trying to figure things out and trying to help other people because maybe no one helped her understand this. Maybe she was sexually assaulted. She has to go to jail for it, come on, you should have to get it together. Can you imagine Madonna, the like a virgin tour in the 80s and then her doing the same Egypt today?
Starting point is 00:30:49 And doing that, I mean, she'd be banned for life. Yeah, it would be nonsense. Well, chances are it would probably be like Egyptian officials would actually be big Madonna fans and you just let her come anyway. It seems so fucking selective, you know? It's like the country's the band, like Saudi, it's like a dry country, it's band alcohol.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Yet the rock went there, was hanging out with like one of the Saudi kings or a prince or something, and tweeted, hey thanks a lot next time, I'll bring the tequila. But then quickly had to like take that off his Twitter because probably someone in the king's fucking kingdom was like, hey, you're not supposed to be drinking when you're in the kingdom with us, like, but of course they're in that party and up, they're fucking king, so they can do what they
Starting point is 00:31:33 want, but the people can. Which is interesting, too. I don't realize like a lot of like, I think Princeton is one of those. You know, people will get like major celebrities or Jeff Lopes will get a couple million to play for like an hour for these people Have you heard of that? Yeah, dude, they're the real and you're like I have a rich is fucking people in the world No idea really dude. They they do because they're the king like the king of Saudi owns the whole country Yeah, he doesn't have to have like his taxes Evaluate like no one knows how much money has yeah, they don't know it could be trillions They're probably the richest people that ever lived a
Starting point is 00:32:08 much gold you have in there like who why do you think we're so fucking nice to yeah America seems to hate Muslims or at least the president yet somehow they're like our number one ally in Saudi yeah money talks when you got a fucking solid gold jet we're're like, oh, there's motherfucking, there's no food. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty fucking interesting stuff. Next on their podcast, they were talking about, of course they were talking about fighting, it's an MMA one, we got to talk about that a little bit. But they were talking about like the testing and steroid testing, steroid use, right? So we're watching the World Cup right now.
Starting point is 00:32:47 It's in Russia. We assume those motherfuckers are jacked up. Jacked up. But you know, it's like obviously it doesn't help with soccer because you got kicked out, so that's how that works. True. But, you know, with these fighters today, they're testing them all the time.
Starting point is 00:33:03 All the time at it. Is that true? So in the States, right? Well, it's for different fighting organizations. So the UFC uses, has a company called Usada. I think they're like, they're not an government agency, but they kind of just regulate drug testing. But they get these guys whenever they want.
Starting point is 00:33:22 All the time, they can get you wake you up in the middle of the night to, you know, person a thing, they can just check you constantly. And what they were getting into is like, is this a bit of an invasion of privacy? We're talking about freedom here anyway, right? But now this is your job. And what point is it invasive? Does it, is it really helping or is it like, you know, I mean, the idea is that they're making it, they're doing the testing so much that there's no way you could figure out how to cheat around it, right?
Starting point is 00:33:53 But imagine if they said, okay, every morning at 10 o'clock, we check your pee, that's it, at least you know. But then you figure out at 10, 15 right after you pee, you can load yourself up with some roids. And then somehow it's gone by the next day, whether you've already cheated the system. So they try and take that out of there.
Starting point is 00:34:10 But at the same time, it's not really, you know, these bites just have to constantly say where they are, constantly say where they're going. That is pretty invasive. And it builds a little anxiety too. You just don't want to continue your own life. You know what I mean? Maybe have a family, maybe you want to do this and that.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Well that's a great point. It's something to act. Imagine if you got an audition. And they're like, but now you got to do this p-tester this time. And you're like, I got an audition. I can't just imagine. Just a man on set, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:36 It's like this, this is real. And it's pretty brutal. It's pretty brutal for them to have to go through. And then they're still dealing with injuries as well. The tears in this and that. Dude. But it's pretty brutal. It's pretty brutal for them to have to go through. And then they're still dealing with injuries as well. The tears, isn't it? Dude. So it's like, you can only take so much and then you got to keep on doing that.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Well, they really should get, they should really be allowed to take that stuff when they're injured. I think that's when you should be allowed to. Yeah, because you're going to kill yourself at least quicker. Yeah, exactly, right? And maybe you'll hear yourself in a way you couldn't have before. Maybe of the the injuries were just too bad and that's that's kind of how it goes So even like with like the HCH stuff that's that's often you can't do that too well human growth hormone I think is actually quite hard to test for
Starting point is 00:35:19 I don't know if there's a test for it to be honest. They look at some other key factors the rays because of it if there's a test for it, to be honest. They look at some other key factors that raise because of it, but that one I think that there's a way to take it in low dose. You just can't like dump test ulcerone and kind of any animal ults, uh, anabolic steroids in your system. Oh, right. I don't know a lot about it, to be honest. He was just talking about how difficult it is and Joe was kind of on it, and I was just thinking to myself, wow, if that was in my life, that would be stressful. With everything else that you do, you're already a fighter, you're already trained all the time, you know, and now they're constantly trying to get out.
Starting point is 00:35:53 You and especially if you're a clean guy that never does anything, you're like, for fuck's sake, man, leave me alone. You know, I get on with it. I just watched something last night on YouTube and maybe it's still with wrestling, but it's interesting. It was a girl transitioning to mail, but she's been taking steroids in the last two years
Starting point is 00:36:10 in high school. But I think she's been undefeated the last two years. And so one of the commentators was raising a thing. How fair is it? Well, I'm just saying, you're actually taking steroids. So she's a woman fighting women and she's taking steroids to become Yeah, man. Yeah, that seems unfair. Well, yeah, because I mean that everyone can take it, right? Yeah Yeah, you know, and I mean could you just be a guy and be like now I feel like a woman and just go smash all the women
Starting point is 00:36:37 Well, that's what they were best. They were going back and forth right? But I was just yeah That that does raise an interesting but I'm saying if you're I'm just if you're taking steroids. Obviously you're gonna be you're gonna gain muscle and you're get to that roydrage You know, we're trying to figure that out today I think we try like with these transitioning peer. It's like hold on because there was a fight to the did it There was a man that turned into a woman Didn't tell anyone and just smashed all these women. Oh really fucked up man. You can't do that shit. That's not cool Yeah, no, that's not cool.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Yeah, fuck who knows they they have to figure out something without one day Next up on Rogan's podcast was a really cool guest someone I didn't know a lot about his name is Tony Rock now. He's a comedian very very funny comedian after looking some of his stuff up And you can tell right away the way he just throws down his punchlines, Joe loves him, he's also Chris Rocks younger brother. Now, had you heard of Tony Rock, Eddie? I never have. Yeah, and it's almost a shame when you see someone of such caliber and obviously related to such a great comedian as Chris, who's one of the best, you know, go unnoticed.
Starting point is 00:37:45 It's like how much good comedy is there out there that we don't even know about? Thank God for things like Netflix, like bringing more of these specials to the forefront so that regular everyday Joe's can watch it. You know what reminds me of Charlie Murphy, you know Charlie? Yeah, yeah, yeah, cool.
Starting point is 00:38:01 I always see him. You went over for, here's it, everybody knew him, even Rick James knew about him, right? Right, right. Because Chappelle was don't serve by Charlie Murphy. Yeah, Charlie. Yeah, of course. I always, you know, for years, everybody knew him, even Rick James knew about him, right? Cause, cause, cause Chappelle was don't say about Charlie Murphy. Yeah, yeah. Put him on and that's people are like, he has a brother, this guy's funny,
Starting point is 00:38:12 but everyone knew it. Dude, Charlie Murphy. Everyone knew it. And then when he died, everyone was like, Charlie Murphy died, it was like, he's been, he's been doing this for 30 something years. He's responsible for maybe two of the funniest comedy skits of all time.
Starting point is 00:38:26 The Prince one with the pancakes, and of course the Rick James. Jesus Christ, that was funny. Holy God, I can watch that any time. It just fucking kills me man. Oh, he's like, and Rick James shows up and he goes, hey, darkness. And he just, bitch, slaps me across the face.
Starting point is 00:38:44 And he's like, I'm gonna kick your ass. He's gonna order a five fingers set in the face. Bam! With all of his rings, don't I? James bitch. Charlie Murphy is like, his face, his interview is like going, man, I got, I'm gonna get out of here.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Who you are, man? And then when he shows up at his place, his new place, oh, kick in his muddy shoes on the couch. And then when he shows up at his place, his new place, Oh, and he's like kicking his muddy shoes on the couch. And he's like, he drops, I don't know, or whatever, and he's like cleared up, bitch. It's like, too far, too far. Just take that as new place and show us up.
Starting point is 00:39:17 What made those skits so good too, is not only should Pell was perfect for acting in them and being that character that Charlie Murphy could be in it too, and be as good. But also the way that he would commentate, like he would kinda, well, I'm more like narration, he would narrate over it, but like, almost like he's like pissed off and serious.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Like he's still pissed off, but yeah, it was brilliant. It was like such a non-shalom way, you're like, holy shit, is this story real? And I heard Prince talk about it once before he died. He's something on the radio and he was like, yeah, pretty much was true. And he goes, Prince was actually quite funny with it. He goes, yeah, I did, some of our guys,
Starting point is 00:39:57 we did make pancakes for him. And he goes, he goes, but it wasn't so much that I'm good at basketball. He's like, it's more than Charlie just sucks. And that was funny. I really like that. I was like, oh shit, that's good. He's like, hey, he shows up on the court of the place. They're all in heels. He's like, damn, where's your basketball shoes and he's got heels on? That's it.
Starting point is 00:40:16 And then they should be okay. Oh, dude, that's too funny. Yeah. Well, obviously they exaggerated stuff. Of course, yeah. It's great. It's great. Hey, let me ask you, you still doing your smoothies? You get into this, right? Yeah, in fact, I just went to the store. Oh, don't let me forget, blend them.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Yeah, I'm going to. I have a question for you, I just speak about them. So today I put all my, in the one juicer that I have, right? But I noticed that even putting all this finish that I did in salary, I just feel like I'm not getting, I'm sure I'm getting the juice, but I feel like the nutrients are being wasted. Maybe it's my juicer.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Oh, so you're juicing, right? So you're taking out the solid material? Yeah. Well, dude, there's not much in there other than cellulose, believe it or not. Cellulose is like tree bark. Okay. It's undigestable dietary fiber. It doesn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:41:07 It helps you shit, but they don't even know if that's even that useful. Here's the thing. When you juice, you get all the nutrients in a nutrition blast, straight into your system, You know, it's probably more beneficial to make smoothies. And here's why, from what I understand, now Dr. Bronda Patrick is someone that always shows up on Rogan's podcast and his smartest hour. She is a biomedical researcher, so she's always looking at the research. Well number one, when you're having high-level veggies, like that concentrated veggies, kale and all those things, you want to have fats with it. So you're either adding MCT oil, which is medium-chain triglycerides, or coconut oil, or maybe blend in an avocado, right? When you're doing a juice, though, you don't do that.
Starting point is 00:42:01 It's just juice. So all your digestive system is doing is like trying to absorb water soluble vitamins, which a lot of them are not water soluble. A lot of them are fat soluble, so to be like vitamin B12. There's a lot of nutrition that requires fats to enable to absorb it, right? So that being the case, you've got to add those things in.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Also, when you're doing a smoothie, you get all that fiber. Chopped up, so it goes through your system better. But what that helps with is it slows down the digestive process, because now you've got to digest all that fiber. So, if you have some sugar in, that's okay. If you make your smoothie a little sweeter, because your digestive slower slower so you're not spiking your insulin these things are bad you understand but you can also then add some of the fats in it doesn't taste weird so so I would say for the most part if you can stick with smoothies for
Starting point is 00:42:59 consistency but if you ever feel under the weather or you want a detox are you saying like you want a couple of days where you really want to ease off yourself, then do your juicing. Because that's when you're, if you don't feel well, you want to blast the nutrition in, but also do a little bit of fat. Even so much is just to mount a little bit of butter and have that with something. You know, because it's interesting, was I was filming the pilot swipe last week at friday but so I did three days in a row of juicing right and when I showed up on set it was like people like I was like hey I'm looking okay that was like you look great on camera I'm like
Starting point is 00:43:37 wow I felt good I noticed my skin was shining and I looked healthy yeah make sure I is wider yeah so I'm like I'm like a good little trip to know in the is white. Yeah, so I'm like, I'm like, a good little trip to know in the back of your little toolbox. I'm like, I'm going to say, hey, I know I'm filming this day or I got to be, I got to look good. I'm going to juice for three days. Yeah. And then I look, you know, yeah, that's perfect. And then the other days, if you can, to get the nutrition and just do smoothies, it doesn't have to be every day. Yeah. But smoothies are good just to keep adding it in. I mean, you know, they were talking about it. So Tony's been doing it.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Tony Rock has been doing it. I was talking to Joe about it. I mean, you know, a lot of people are doing that. You got to be a bit careful though when you're adding the facts to the smoothies, especially MCT or it will make you shit. Okay. Yes, be careful. But a lot of these fighters,
Starting point is 00:44:26 these fighters in their diets, I'm sure they go on their little juicing stuff. They have their own little system. Oh for sure. I'm just thinking they're protein, but then they have their juicing. I'm sure they've really got it. Well it's like everyone, man.
Starting point is 00:44:37 I mean, if you look at Tony, he's not a fighter, he's a comedian, and he's doing it. I mean, it's just people want to be healthy these days. Yeah, feel much better. You know, we're eating garbage most of the time. And it's like, it's like, how does that affect, you know, how we live, how we eat.
Starting point is 00:44:51 And just looking at society and culture. Now, I think Tony's from New York, but they was talking about Chicago for a while. And they were kind of talking about different attitudes of places, you know, like the comedy in New York is a little bit more aggressive. Like they nag on each other more, give each other shit, but there's like also a good, good like camaraderie, whereas in LA there's a little bit difference.
Starting point is 00:45:16 But then just look at that culturally. So he was talking about Chicago and how segregated Chicago is, right? And you're from Chicago from the North side Yeah, yeah, I mean I've lived there I lived there for many years. I went to Loyola University. I looked downtown. I live in Brighleyville like you know I I had a good chance to get a real Feel for that city and it's no joke man. There's a lot of segregation and that causes problems and You know just while they were talking on the podcast,
Starting point is 00:45:46 just a few days before the podcast, 28 deaths in one day. That's a lot. And what were you saying, something? I was saying that, I believe it was July 4th, especially when it's hot out a lot of shootings rise. So I think there was about maybe 115, maybe 120 shootings right around there. And I think there was about maybe 115, maybe 120 shootings right around there.
Starting point is 00:46:05 And I think there was 15 deaths, you know, that doesn't include the stabbings and stuff. But it was just the hot weather and you have all that stuff going on and... It drives you crazy. Yeah, I mean it's hot now. I'm not saying I want to shoot you, but I've thought about it. Yeah, but he fucking makes it now. The humidity in like in New York when it goes up like yeah I think it was like a couple weeks ago I found me that I think it was like a hundred just over 105 degrees in Chicago. Jeez. Can you imagine in the city I mean I'd drive anybody else. Yeah I drive you.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Do you think with all those murders that makes for a lot of haunted houses? Oh of course. In fact I lived in a haunted house in Chicago. Yeah, I did. In Lincoln Park. For real? Yeah, I saw me in Max Crawford and her friend and other friend. Literally, it was right in Lincoln Park right back to Paul University. Uh-huh. And then we were just all going to school at the time.
Starting point is 00:47:01 And they were redoing all these brownstones that were lived in this one. The main floor was all untouched and that it had a second and third floor. But he had this weird vibe. It just had a weird vibe going on. We saw it. Did anyone talk about it being home? Well, I lied to him. My one buddy was like, nah, and then we saw a plate fly off the shelf.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I said the water, the thing just go hot. I don't know where, or cold. In my room, I always, there was a really strange sense of what was going on. But at the same time, you know, even, you know, it was not too far from where they did Valentine's Day massacre. You know what I mean? So there was a bunch, there was a couple of bars
Starting point is 00:47:37 that were haunted. Would you buy a house that you knew a famous murder happened in? I know, I'm gonna pass on that. Like, if it was, if it was, but I'm saying it's a great deal. It's a huge house, tons of bedrooms, amazing, straight up famous murder in that. Yeah, I'm gonna pass. You're gonna pass?
Starting point is 00:47:57 I'm gonna pass, yeah. That's kinda like, see, I don't think I give a shit. I guess, I guess I would have to think about like when I have kids or a wife and like you know they got a living it too But I just I'm not superstitious like that. I mean I it has to be in your mind, right? Well, he was the the home. Hey great deals a great deal with the with the win Winchester You know, that was what part of what with the Civil War and all that stuff. Yeah, they reached the That home that that it's that mansion that's they've said
Starting point is 00:48:26 that's been haunted little things that will happen this night and they sometimes they say it's a ghost from all the ones that were killed because of the weapons you know if you've seen that. But in Chicago yeah yeah there was a place to El Capone the Wheeling where I grew up at, other French place, they settled as haunted as well. Do you know what I mean? The French ghosts, the worst. Yeah. Do they, they're like, oh, hey, he's not like.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Hey, come on in and make a crepe for me. Yeah, I love that. I know, that was more in town. I'm not good with accent. But yeah, no, between all the mafia stuff in the city in Chicago and all the other stuff, I can see that I just just whenever I've had another place where there was a ghost and actually in Santa Monica and weird things were
Starting point is 00:49:09 happening and the woman was like it is something going on. So you know like nothing ever happened but you know I just make your piece you say hey I think and it's you know what I mean yeah I know it's easy to do. Yeah but maybe it's true it's easy to dismiss right I didn easy to do. It's easy to dismiss, right? I didn't see it. People talk about it and they really sure about this. And you can't dismiss people right away. It's not a good way of communicating. It's kind of like online trolls.
Starting point is 00:49:39 If you come out and say something, I saw a ghost. Oh, you fucking idiot. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Number one, who the shit is like jumping on people's cases about what they think and being that negative only loses. There's no winner out there. There's no like, you know, Dwayne the rock Johnson type character out there that also jumps on Instagram and says, fuck you, you're dumb. To people. They don't do it.
Starting point is 00:50:06 They don't have time. People that talk shit online are fucking losers. There's no other way looking at it. It's like the same thing when I think about this podcast, for example, and like making it, putting it together, and like, when anyone has said to me, oh dude, I think that's a dumb idea. Like they were 100% those people. Like even when they've said to me, oh, dude, oh, I think that's a dumb idea. Like, they were 100% those people.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Like, even when they've been my friends, I'm like, yeah, but you have a bit of a loser mentality. Like, this is why you haven't been encouraging. You're not gonna be. It's just like, why? Why even jump on people? Like, look, you're an actor, right? So, there's probably plenty of things
Starting point is 00:50:42 that you've done or attempted to do where other people have been like That's not gonna work and you we already have the voice inside this says don't do it. Well, I'll tell you one thing It's interesting That you know I have done hypnosis clinical hypnosis for over seven eight years, right? I've just seen 300 people you know clients have been on a TV show with it And I mean it's amazing how people still and I almost get tired of the conversation But a lot of people begin like, does it work?
Starting point is 00:51:05 I'm like, well, come in for a session, but they're like, what am I gonna do? I'm like, you're the one who's dragging me down. You're the negativity, which is interesting. Right. And then someone, they, what are they worried about? They're waking up with their pants off for all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:51:17 All that stuff. You know, I like like a chicken crazy stuff. You have rights. But it's interesting when people have like, oh, I'll come and say, all right. And I'm like, come in for free, whatever. And then they do it and they go, wow, I feel rights. But it's interesting when people have, like, oh, come in, all right. And I'm like, come in for free, whatever. And then they do it, and they go, wow, I feel great. I go, well, what did you expect was gonna, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:51:31 Yeah. But I'm just sending negativity with that. Sure. You come in, it's like with any kind of thing, right? Or even like going to see a trainer, like, I don't need to see a trainer. Well, do you know how to properly train what you're fighting or whether you're,
Starting point is 00:51:45 you should be suspicious of some things, right? Otherwise, we'd all get locked into a fucking pyramid scheme or buying, you know, time shares. Like, there are some things that are about our idea. But you shouldn't be negative when someone's trying a new idea, they're trying something new, they wanna work through it, even if it fails for them. It's like, give people a chance to do it. You never know.
Starting point is 00:52:06 You know, I'm sure even when Joe Rogan started his podcast, people were like, well, that sounds stupid while you even doing it. And now look, it's like the biggest, third biggest downloaded podcast in the world. Nobody's fucking laughing at him now. Of course it means. And you can only do it by believing in that thing and just bringing something interesting. With that note, thank you, Wedy, for joining me today. Oh, thank you, man.
Starting point is 00:52:29 We're not, that was like almost an hour, a flew by. Love it. Cheers, man, thanks brother. Thank you for the coffee. And a fuck, we made it through the heat. And thanks for listening, guys. We got some more great guests coming up next week. I believe another MMA one as well and that's it. Stay tuned and
Starting point is 00:52:48 love you guys. Cheers.

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