Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - A review of Episode 1170 Tulsi Gabbard

Episode Date: September 26, 2018

Tulsi is a congresswoman from Hawaii and is a super genuine person. Joe and her had a great conversation about all things political and I really enjoyed that introduction to her.   Enjoy..   Ple...ase email me with any suggestions and questions for future shows :   Joeroganexperiencereview@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello folks, thanks for tuning in for Podcast 22 of the JRE review where each episode I review another Joe Rogan podcast and this week really cool guest Tulsi Gabud on Podcast 1170. I'd never heard of this person, I don't follow politics all that much anyway. It's mostly depressing and I'm too stupid to follow it all, but she is a congress person woman from Hawaii Hawaii and Really cool sounded awesome really genuine. I guess Joe is a fan of hers and it's been listening to her for some time
Starting point is 00:00:46 and wanted to run and get talking about things and it was a great conversation, really fascinating and you know it does give you at least me, gave me a little hope, you know, I'm like oh not all politicians and maybe the worst, Maybe there's some normal ones. She's young, I think she's like 39. Which is not for me because I'm about to turn 37 and I'm thinking, fuck. I could not imagine being a congressperson. Ugh, so much to do. So limiting in like, I don't know I just feel like that's not just that it's
Starting point is 00:01:29 a ton of pressure but I mean you know everything you're doing is so scrutinized it must be exhausted but good for her you know she's ambitious she's young and she she really had some great thoughts on things. One of the first things they touched on, which is something that you probably remember because I do, is the false alarm text that went out to the big island of Hawaii. I think it was earlier this year. So basically what happened is a text message, one of those alert text messages, went out to everybody in Hawaii saying that a ballistic missile was on its way. Now, it turned out that it was a false alarm, but imagine that shit happening.
Starting point is 00:02:21 So it just basically was that one guy clicked on the wrong thing on his computer and that went out. Now my first question is how the hell does one guy have a computer that you click on and then that shit goes down. I'm pretty sure that it should at least go to someone else's computer so that they can review it and be like, bro are you sure? Because you're... I mean people must have been having a heart attack. Imagine that. I mean it. And it's not so out of the realm of possibility the way you could immediately just dismiss it as bullshit. I mean I think that there's plenty of reasons to assume, oh yeah, this is happening and we are done for. One story that Tulsi told was of a guy who has two sons and they were on different ends of the
Starting point is 00:03:18 island and he only had enough time to drive to one of them to be with one of them for those last minutes. And that was something that he had to think through and get prepared for. And yeah, anyway, they ended up firing this stupid guy that clicked on the wrong thing. And now he's suing them for wrong for this missile. And the best thing about it is Joe was like are you fucking kidding me? You know if there's any time that somebody gets fired for fucking up it's that. I mean just stupid.
Starting point is 00:03:55 So dumb. Anyway. God. awful. Just thinking about that scares the shit out of me. Just imagine that. You want to beat the fuck out of that guy. So yeah, then they get into like what the real ramifications of that. What? And I mean, it just is that every year, Russia, I mean, sorry, not Russia, North Korea is building ballistic missiles
Starting point is 00:04:23 that can shoot further and further, and it's's a real threat and Hawaii is the furthest west you know state and you know like Alaska's out there too but further north you know they have to think about that I mean think back to World War II when the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor that's the first spot they get to you you know, that's where they're going. So that place, it's not its first rodeo, they've been here before, and you know, it's something they think about, and she discusses it, like, why would she not? One of the more fascinating parts of the conversation between Joe and Tulsa is when they get into kind of like the fake politicians and the bullshit of politicians and you know they obviously we know about this it's why a lot of people are kind of disillusioned when it comes to politics
Starting point is 00:05:18 we all have our own opinions on it right you have your own I have mine and and you know we're all supposed to like pay attention and follow it because you've got to be informed but it's so exhausting with like how annoying most of these politicians are and they've got that super PAC money so they have to like kiss asses of like these different donors and that was one thing that she said and she doesn't take super PAC money so she prefers a lot of little donations and that's enough for her to run and win, but it also gives her freedom
Starting point is 00:05:49 to be real because she doesn't have to speak on behalf of these large corporations and banking systems that are just paying for their campaign. Which in so many ways is a vicious cycle because I don't think anyone gets into politics just to be rich and famous. Maybe they do. You know, Trump probably did. Well, he was already rich and famous, but you know, just more power. But I think people go into it with the right idea and then they realize you just can't win shit by speaking your mind. You've just got to turn into a robot and take this money. So it's's it gives me some faith to see
Starting point is 00:06:27 People that are more genuine coming forward like this person and doing it on their own backs and raising money the right way We talk about our Hillary just never seen very genuine whether you're a Hillary found or not. It just does I mean Really that doesn't matter, but I mean I think we can all agree that she doesn't really sound like a very genuine person when she speaks. She just doesn't sound like a real person a lot of time. She's so robotic. She just been in the political world forever. And, you know, she did those speeches to the Wall Street guys that she didn't release and got paid $4 million for it. And Joe makes the point
Starting point is 00:07:06 that like, hold on, nobody has something so valuable to say that in an hour or so, it's worth quarter of a million dollars. Nobody. What they're doing is they're buying your favor. And she took it for money, you know, and then they get into how bankers are big lobbyists and that bankers banks are bigger than ever, you know, the banks that we bailed out 2008, they just tore that money and you know, very little regulation even popped up against him and they're slowly working to get rid of that and they
Starting point is 00:07:39 are bigger than ever. They would just be able to buy up all the smaller banks back then. It's it's so fucked. It's that whole thing is so fucked and they don't want us to think about it. And then you see like these Wells Fargo commercials now, whether Wells Fargo is like coming back saying, you know, I know we lost your trust, but we're going to get it again. And we're a different bank. And you know, it's about building that reputation. I'm just like, fuck off. Too little too late, punk. That's what I reputation. I'm just like, fuck off. Too little too late, punk. That's what I think.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I don't know if other people have fallen for those things, but it's almost like we just all will get in line eventually and oh, well, you got our bank, so we just go on. You know what we need? We need a new type of bank. A whole different bank system. From somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:08:23 You know, why can't it like a, it could be with the internet could be any country Anyway, just comes up with a bank. It's like here you go You don't pay 80M fees no overdraft fees We're not a bunch of assholes. You just put your money here. We invested in shit and There you go boom none of the bullshit. I mean, it's gotta be possible to think that it is an, I don't know. Maybe it is already an empty dumb that even no it exists. I have to Google it, look. But, you know, it kind of makes me want to get rid of the...
Starting point is 00:08:54 ...banks. The next thing they get into is voter fraud, right? So we're always hearing about this, every election, and more so than ever, I think with the Trump stuff because it's like the Russians were involved or whatever. So they're talking about whether they can hack the machines. And I guess there was like a simulation set up
Starting point is 00:09:19 where an 11 year old girl hacked into a valid machine in like 15 minutes and just fucked it up. I mean that quick, crazy, right? So they know there's problems and one thing that Tulsa Gabbott did is she put a bill forward that basically said that there will be paper ballad backups, right? So you'll put your vote in that's digital and then it prints the thing physical paper that has your name you're like voter registration number and then who you voted for and now they have a backup So even when they get all the digital numbers in if anything looks scary they can then refer it to the paper one, and you get to actually
Starting point is 00:10:07 see the print out of the paper one so that part of it can't be hacked. And I guess you can have that in. You know, the fact that they don't have that already, it kind of blows my mind. I'm like, what the hell are these idiots been doing? Like why are you just using a machine to like digitally come up with it? I just think that that has to be an easier way. Look at me, don't all this thinking about banking and voter shit. I can't, I'm way too dumb that you can figure any of this out. So you know, I don't mean to be so critical, but it just sounds stupid. It just sounds like that these systems should should or it's 2018. It's almost like people that's setting
Starting point is 00:10:48 them up to work this way for a reason, right? More so than just they haven't come up with a better system. It's almost like there's a control aspect of it. I don't know. But the next major issue with voting is the superdelegate situation. Now, I didn't know what a superdelegate was, delegate was before I listened to this podcast. And after listening to Tulsi talk about it, a superdelegate is somebody that will see all the votes of an area or a state. And then they make the votes that they want, based on these numbers, but they're supposed to represent the people, but they don't always.
Starting point is 00:11:34 And the example she gave is Bernie Sanders was up 70% in Hawaii, yet all the delegates had already promised their vote to Hillary. So Bernie really got fucked on that whole thing. And the super delegate, the idea of it is that it's to protect the people from voting in like a lunatic, which is laughable because it's like, well who the fuck are you to decide my vote for me? Like, that they even exist. It's like a safeguard of nonsense and clearly it doesn't work because I mean, you know nobody was stopping Trump getting in and You know, I mean, I'm not really saying he's limited I'm just saying that they're like he's not a regular politician
Starting point is 00:12:22 It's not like these super delegates hadates had a meeting and were like, Are we sure this is working? Like, you know, if somebody's voting 70 percent, you got to go with that. You can't just give it away. And then the, you know, it just, it just delegitimizes the whole Democratic party because of those things. I don't think the Republicans have super delegates from what I understand of this podcast is what they were saying. So maybe, they've got something kind of sorted out. The next big issue she wanted to talk about was cost to colleges, out of control, super high, everyone's in debt, everyone's finishing in debt, I bunch of debt from college, and I don't even use my degree or any of my schooling
Starting point is 00:13:07 for anything that I do. So you know, a lot of it's just a waste and it's all for, I mean, they talk about, you know, you can bring out hundreds of thousands of dollars of credit card debt, sign bankruptcy and it's gone. But student loan debt, they're giving you when you're, you know, and you could do that in your 40s, right? When you should know better. But, you know, this 18-year-old is just getting into college and they're just handing in money. He doesn't know what he wants to do or what he needs to, you know, how much he needs to take and how it works to pay things back. And he's
Starting point is 00:13:41 getting into a position way. One day he will have to pay all this off and there's nothing he can do. You can't sign bankruptcy, you can't get away from it. I mean eventually in a sense you can go to jail for it because if you don't pay it then they start taking it out of your taxes like your refund and you know if you'll say self-employed and your refund is generally that you owe at the end of the year that all of a sudden you have IRS debt that you haven't paid and you don't pay that you go to jail. So in a really messed up way you think student loans aren't a big deal but you could go to jail for it like obviously a few things need to happen first, but it's a real issue. They also talked about the cost of prescription drugs and how high they are, and that doctors
Starting point is 00:14:31 don't even do nutrition courses. That's kind of a real issue, and why these drugs so high and why these doctors not suggesting, hey, why don't you change your diet? And those that are, it's just like private learning themselves, they don't, they just don't know enough about it. So there's some real issues in these systems that are put in place. And if you get people healthier, is one thing she was saying, then eating better,
Starting point is 00:15:01 then they're not getting as sick, and that's a lot less expensive on the country. because we spend a lot of money on Medicare and Medicaid in the US and freeing that up with some good nutritional knowledge. Be smart. Be real smart thing. Then we want to do some other stuff, you know, like stop and search things. They talk about what rights the police have, how they can look into your phone by using your fingerprint but then allow to ask for your pen and just other parts of that. But generally, Joe really liked it and was really happy to talk to it and thought that she was a super genuine person. And like I said, it gives me hope and it gives him hope. And he was just like, yes, we need more politicians like you.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Young, ambitious, ask her if she ever wanted to run for president, if you want quiet. Joe assumed that that was a yes. It's a great podcast and it's a really good insight. You know, this is the way we should learn about politicians. Not those bullshit speeches that they do, but a real conversation to really get an idea kind of where they their heads are and where those things are. So check this one out, check it out, and again, thanks for listening.
Starting point is 00:16:11 And yeah, have a great fucking day, guys. Peace.

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