Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - A Review of Episode 1209 Anthony Cumia
Episode Date: December 13, 2018Anthony from the legendary Opie and Anthony radio show. Was the main inspiration for Joe to start his podcast. Joe talks about how he was inspired to create his own podcast which is now one of the b...iggest in the world. This was a conversation I’ve wanted to review for years. Enjoy my review folks! Please email me with any suggestions and questions for future Reviews: Joeroganexperiencereview@gmail.com
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This episode of the JRE Review reviews Anthony Cumea's conversation with Joe Rogan, podcast
1209.
Now Anthony is from Opie and Anthony, the radio show that was huge in the 90s and 2000s.
And Anthony is a good friend of Joe.
Joe used to go on their show in New York quite often and is the primary reason and inspiration
for Joe Rogan to do his podcast so this is a really fascinating conversation that I've wanted to listen to for a long time.
So without a further ado, let's get reviewing.
So Joe starts off a conversation by saying how Anthony back in the day would from his
home studio, so he built a studio in his home in his basement where he had a huge green
screen and he would stand in front of it and do something called machine gun karaoke,
where so Anthony is a bit of a gun nut and would stab there with the machine gun
I think in his underwear. I'm not sure but just singing karaoke in front of a green screen that he'd like flash
images up behind and
Joe sat there and said hey, why can't I do something like that?
Maybe obviously not the same same, but like why can I build a studio?
Why can't I put on my own show? Why can't I do it my way? Which is what Anthony wanted? He didn't want to be behind the two
Sponsors and pressure and the radio and and these sorts of things so he so he did his own thing and it's
Incredible to hear that inspiration because of what Joe Rogan's podcast has become
It's very important to hear what inspired people to do things, especially
great people doing amazing things, because you want to get to the source, the root of it.
Where did it come from? And when Anthony started out, a lot of people thought his idea was
stupid, and this didn't make any sense. Joe obviously saw something else in it, but it also goes to show when, you know, Naysayers or people are saying, no, that idea is dumb,
or if they're not doing anything themselves, then it's like, well, don't even listen. Who knows?
Who knows what an idea can become, practice enough after it, you get going, you can do something
pretty interesting. And, you know, and now Joe's Joe Roman's podcast is really
one of the biggest podcasts in the world, if not the biggest. They talk a little bit about
Anthony being single and being able to do that and having his entire house be the man cave instead
of being just relegated to some rooms because he is single and has the money and has the opportunity to do that.
And Joe says it's funny when you see that happen in all the single guys with cash,
you see what they really want. And it's just a playhouse. It's kind of like what Joe's studio is.
You know, he just built it in a different place, but Joe brings up a quote that he really likes
and kind of resonates. And it it says most men live lives of silent
desperation and that's for sure that's really if you look at any of your negative friends the grumpy ones
the ones the moon all the time that find shit to complain about I'd say they definitely fall under
that and you know this is why we need a hunt and do you did so?
And find our own space to express ourselves.
So we don't feel so desperate and locked up and angry.
And we have more time for our wife and our kids and all the rest of it.
It's about finding that space.
So, yeah, again, Anthony's whole house is really just a man cave.
He talks a little bit about how he got fired from Opie and Anthony, because Joe was unsure
about this, but it was because they did a prank on 4th of July, I don't know, April 4th,
sorry, that makes way more sense.
Saying that the mayor died, so the mayor died and before they had a chance to make the
job really ridiculous, they'd like cut the plug and it was all done
And I think that's when Anthony says he's gonna go off and do his own type of radio
That now he does like a subscription based
Podcast show that's not just his it's like you pay a subscription and you get
To listen to a bunch of different
Radio shows, so you like buy a whole package to listen to a bunch of different radio shows.
So you buy a whole package.
It's something that's kind of new.
I don't understand it fully,
but I mean, if he's on there, he's very good.
I know some other guys are on there that are really funny.
And subscription stuff, a podcast is kind of frustrating
just because free content is really great.
But his point is that he doesn't have sponsors
and he doesn't have to be beholden to him and they can't drop him, they can't get mad at him, it just gives him the freedom to do whatever he needs.
And, you know, that's just kind of a better way of doing, you know, it's freedom of speech. So, uh, that, you know, there's that. They talk a little bit about the
Louis CK thing. Um, a lot of comedians and radio people are talking about that
right now because Louis is like slowly making comebacks and he's taking some
shit. People are heckling him. Some woman the other day shouted out during his
set, get your dick out, which is actually quite funny, but must have been brutal for him.
But shit, he must have
expected this and I'm surprised he doesn't have more retorts ready, you know, or
at least some humble way of dealing with it. The question they bring up though
is did he make anyone do anything against that well, you know, and and that's a
question I don't know. It's like people I know
a lot of the most people I know actually want to want to jump on him immediately and say no He's done should never have done it. It's all for end-a-story guilty
And I think that's a problem with our culture right now as we need to at least get the facts everyone deserves
Their own trial when it comes to this like trust me at the end of the day, jerking off the front of someone's odd.
So no matter what, even at best, he's still on all dude. But maybe there's more to it.
And yeah, if he's not forcing anyone to do anything, certainly not as bad as other types of things.
But really should, I mean we can't just compare everyone to Cosby because he's like the worst serial rapist in history.
Um, you know, and it was done 20 years ago as well before he was even really famous at all.
So it wasn't like he was really using fame and power.
Um, the example they gave is maybe he was a headliner to the other comedian who was under him, but that's not a ton of extra power.
Like, that it really isn't.
The person who is like opening up for him could easily be like I'll just open up for someone else.
I mean he wasn't big then you know if you're good enough to open for one comedian you can open
for plenty and you're not going to keep working with so many jacks off in front of you that's if you
don't like it.
The question is being held accountable for something you did 20 years ago when societies
are changing. Obviously, if it's a law, if you rape or kill, or whatever, 20 years ago,
it's still just as bad. But if society is just changing, in a way, getting slightly more
sensitive, for good or bad, for the protection of others or whatever. I mean
Can you look at like your grandpa's behavior and judge him with today's standards?
I mean in a lot of ways it's a different society that a
Little bit of leniency
It's probably not a bad start, but you know, that's just my thoughts on it. What are you for us?
Where do you take that what what angle do you see it at? I'm not fully decided on it, to
be honest. It's kind of a tough one. And they said that he asked if he could. He asked,
look, can I joke off the front of you, which is still fucking weird, but some of them were
like, alright, or some would just make jokes about it. I think it happened to Sarah Silverman and she just slowed it was funny.
You know if they said no he wouldn't do it.
So it's really not even in the same universe as something like Harvey Weinstein, but it's kind of thrown in there.
It really is.
So yeah that's a tough one. They changed direction, get back to something lighter, they start talking about all the surveillance, right?
and
Joe asks if
Anthony has an Alexa in his house and he's like, fuck no,
because Alexa is listening to everything you say all the time and the question is what is Amazon doing with that information?
I mean, they're probably listening right now. I think I have an Alexa somewhere. I don't know.
Not that it matters.
I'm making a podcast.
I think you just listen to that.
But it is a good point.
Like, what are they doing with all this data?
Like, where are they going with it?
What are they figuring out?
How much do they know?
You know, it's like AI is tricking us into buying merchandise.
They're figuring out how we think.
And lastly, they talk a little bit about the political correctness stuff and it kind of goes back to the Louis thing in 20
years, with what I say today, be held against me. And you know, people put this
in their house themselves. So it's just meaning, I mean, on the line of Alexa,
like we choose to buy those things, Google, Alexa, whatever.
And it's recording us now.
And in 25 years, can it take things out of context
or even not keep it in context, but society has changed
so much and makes us sound like awful people.
Will they be able to bring that back around? Can they use that data? It's a little bit conspiracy theory, but I
think Anthony's that kind of guy, but anyway it's a great conversation, make
sure to check it out if you haven't already listened to it. It's really cool
because Joe's so excited about it because he knows this is where his podcast
came from and I think he really wanted to give a thank you to Anthony who's a very funny guy and has done a lot and just to think that
What he's done for radio with the Opie and Anthony show and
Leading the way for many podcasts as including Joe to create his podcast
You know you just have to give a big shout out to Anthony and say you're fucking awesome and thank you guys for listening
Talking about other awesome people that's you.
Thanks a lot, there'll be more this week.
Love you guys, peace.