Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - The Joe Rogan Experience Review of 1139 - 1140
Episode Date: July 11, 2018Week 27 and we're over halfway through the year.  This week Joe had on some of the greatest! Guests included Jordan Peterson, Brendan Schaub and Joey Diaz I discuss my favorite parts of each ...episode Enjoy!Â
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Hi guys and welcome to episode 7 podcast 7 week 27 we are halfway over halfway through the year
and time flies time is flying by it was a fantastic week on the Joe Rogan
experience for people that's new to this podcast basically all I do either me
or me with a guest and usually fans of the Joe Rogan experience
get together and we talk about all the shit that we loved in the previous weeks podcast.
I love talking about this podcast, the Joe Rogan experience. I love talking about a lot of podcasts,
so now I do it this way because I always wanted to make a podcast too. And fuck it, there's no rules, do whatever
you want. So that's how I do it. There's no injury music, there's no fancy shit with
this. This is all basic and yeah, if you love this show as much as me, check this out
and always try and make it fun and have a good time. So yeah, this week, Jordan Peterson podcast 1139,
what more can we say as fans of the broken podcast,
we've seen the rise of Jordan Peterson
and what this man has done and incredible.
What a really incredible guy.
I mean, he is a polarizing person though
It does see like people that know anything about him don't really have a kind of on the fence opinion
It does seem like people either love this guy or they hate him and I haven't heard anyone hate him that
When they describe their frustration to me of it
They didn't really seem to understand what he was saying. They definitely had been looking to, like mostly just the soundbites of him.
They definitely hadn't been listening to his entire lectures or his whole interviews
on podcasts like Rogan or Sam Harris's or the many other ones that he's done.
And that's the thing, you can only really, like people just love to jump on the bandwagon.
They hear that this guy only helps young white man or something.
And that's it, they make a ton of assumptions and it's just fucked.
But when you listen to his whole form, you can't help, but you know,
just being inspired by the way that he thinks, I believe. And he really cares about people.
You know, he really does care about it at all. They started off the podcast with Title IX stuff.
So Title IX is something that was passed in the university levels that, and you know, I don't know a ton about this stuff,
but it was basically like inequality of outcome for sports.
Like all sports had the same measure of importance,
even though some make a ton of money and some make no money.
And then, because you have a sport,
you have to have a male version and the female version,
and all of a sudden, the university is just paying
so much towards these sports.
And, you know, I know when I went to school,
I was like, some of it,
like some of the sports that nobody was even paying attention to
had so much funding.
And I'm like, can you give that to kids for scholarships,
like not for sports related ones in sports,
no one's watching.
I'm not saying I don't want to encourage sports
that need a chance,
but I mean, it's just like
Hold on a second. How is this? Doesn't it make sense to teach people at the university level what works in the real world?
Like people will go and watch men play football and pay money for it, right?
Almost nobody's watching female lacrosse. I
Didn't mean for that sound sexist, but it's the truth, right? I mean it's, who knows?
Who knows? But he's getting into it. And the point that he makes is that it is a problem.
It's a real problem when people sit and have this equality of outcome idea.
In a lot of ways, it doesn't mean that you shouldn't help anybody with anything, but
it's a slippery slope as what he's putting forward. And then it gives the example, right?
The example of why so many people listen to Rogan,
or we only tend to listen to the top 1%
of whatever the thing is that we're looking at.
Like we look at the top 1% of the sports.
We only watch the best people play basketball in the NBA.
I mean, people do watch some college,
but I mean, it's not like people are spending a ton of time
watching high school.
You want to see the best version of it.
You want to listen to the best podcast.
You want to read the best books.
I mean, there's only so much time.
So you're going to put it in there.
And that's why those top 1% things get rewarded in that way,
because they have that value right you take
that away and make it even across the board some funky things you know some funky things happen
and then he brings up some other points and and a lot of the points he brings up a difficult right he
was talking about how if you have an IQ below 80 well then're going to struggle and their military won't let you join. And life
is probably going to be harder for you. And if your IQ is below 80, you're going to have
a hard time reading instructions and understanding them, which means that there's not a place
for you in the military. Right. So where is there a place for you in real life? What's tough?
And if you have an equality of outcome, then that person has just as much right getting any job as anyone else
Well, they're gonna struggle in that position and that's gonna be an issue and
You know and then after that one of the most frustrating things of all and I'm sure everyone can attest to this is like
The idea Joe was talking about how they didn't keep score in his daughter's soccer games like it
was just like score as many girls as you want but we're not keeping score so
there's not a winner so people don't feel bad.
That's a weird one you know because kids do feel bad it does suck to lose but I
mean what else does it mean right what else does it mean? Right? What else does it mean then?
Well, you're not teaching them what winning is.
You're not teaching them how hard that is to do.
And that it takes practice, you know?
And every little bit of practice, you get slightly better.
Well, that pays off, you know?
If you work a lot or something, and then you get to win something, I mean, you got to win, you know if you work a lot or something and then you get to win something
I mean you got to win you got to lose, you know
It is all for the feel bad and if a kid just gets in a pattern of just losing in every direction
Then that's all for two, but you know, I mean it also means that they're gonna struggle in real life
Because there's been winning and losing aspect to it
they're gonna struggle in real life because there's been winning and losing aspect to it.
I believe in that.
I mean, I see it.
It makes a lot of sense to me.
And, you know, I think that's also why these podcasts matter,
right?
Why I love talking about it, why we all love listening to Joe
and interview people.
Because he gets a reminder of those things.
He gets to talk about it.
It's like a voice that we haven't heard before, especially with someone like Jordan,
he's so wise and he's making it obviously clear through his understanding of psychology,
the listen, this is what will happen, if you do things this way, this is what we've seen.
And he, remember, he's looking at it at plays from from like
Mentally ill people. I mean he's really winding it back. He's like, you know
Some of these people get into these positions because of this type of thought process leading to this leading to this
I mean, I don't know his all breakdown for things. I can't speak for him, but that's what it kind of
Comes forward with and that's why it's so beautiful to have a real summary of that kind of great
information. Like I'm way too dumb to go out there and collect that.
I did. None of that would make sense to me.
I mean, this is why this stuff is so profound because I'm like, wow,
that is nothing like I thought it was because I just was too dumb to even figure
it out. But you know, he has PhD, he studies it.
And then he realized by teaching his students
this, he could just explain and he practiced, practice, practice, practice, he lectured every
day to kids, reevaluate and constantly how he expresses this information. I mean, what
a brilliant opportunity that is. In so many ways, he's super lucky for that.
I mean, he's trained at that, like,
anyone trains at anything,
explaining what he understands of this.
It's really fascinating.
And then, along with like,
winning at anything, to get to that position,
you've got to fail a lot, right?
While failing sucks,
failing at anything is awful.
It's why, like, took me, like, failing sucks, failing at anything is awful.
It's why it like took me like a year
to even consider starting this podcast.
Why, why it takes a lot of people to figure out
like when they want to start anything,
it's because failing is the worst.
But he talks about being a humble loser, you know,
and they brought up McGregor and Diaz, one,
when McGregor lost.
Like he's a braggado-shish guy, but he didn't turn around and say, But McGregor and Diaz won when McGregor lost.
Like he's a braggado-shish guy, but he didn't turn around and say, oh, wow, that was bullshit
and the ref was this and that.
He just said, I need to reevaluate.
I need to regroup.
I didn't do this, this and this, right?
I mean, he was immediately trying to solve the problem of what happened and how he needs
the improve.
And that's all we can hope for with anything that doesn't go well.
You just see what didn't go right and change it.
We don't let it put us off trying
because that part of failure is not a big deal.
You know, it really isn't, it really isn't a big deal.
It's just hard to kind of fucking see it.
You gotta do it.
And then he talks about setting the bar low,
which is so weird to hear right who wants to do that?
Imagine your parents saying to you be as
slightly ambitious as possible
Right, it's like what did we all want to be as kids astronauts?
fine, then superheroes Wolverine like amazing things
Imagine if we just turn around and we're like I want to be a milkman. Well, it's nothing wrong being a milkman
But it's unlikely a kid's gonna say it doesn't sound very inspiring
But look at the advantage if you did he like I'm gonna be a milkman. Well, there's a good fucking chance
You're gonna achieve it right especially if you put all your effort into it holy shit and at the end of the day
Would it even be the worst thing?
And then you get to
achieve beyond that. Who knows, you're like the running the whole region's milk,
in managing like hundreds of milkmen, all of a sudden you're a senior exec at a
fucking milk company. I mean, could be the worst I set the bar low and
That's a nice thing because really all we can be responsible for is like what we do today
Right then you go to sleep and you got to do it again So what did we do today if you set the bar low you can get a lot of things done in a day
If you set it high and you're like, okay, there's gonna take me all week
Well now you got to break it into seven days,
and every day kind of feels like you didn't quite get it done.
I mean, I like that.
I don't really know how I can implement that.
I have to think about it, you know?
Just like even in regards to this podcast,
like, okay, I want more guests, right?
I want more fans on.
I love being able to talk to people about it.
It's probably more interesting to listen to that way. Though to be honest when it's just me chatting away it's a good way to kind of
you know get to know me as a host of this but but yeah set the bar low you know what low
achievements can you do today that really start to add up it's all incremental incremental movement
you know it doesn't take long to get you somewhere, and that's what's really cool about it.
And experiencing that, you're like, oh shit, what else can I do?
Um, yeah, fascinating.
I love that guy.
He also talked about his health a lot, which is, remember, this is an area that he is not
well-versed, and he definitely doesn't have a PhD and he's not a nutritionist but he's
been ill. He's had health problems and he's really struggled and his daughter has too.
His daughter's been really sick and had a lot of problems. She arthritis at a very young
age, hip repalase, he needs an ankle replaced and she's also had major immunodeficiencies and depression and
different things. Jordan talks about that and how awful is that for his daughter.
You know, for her and for him to feel like awful but she changed her diet. I
think she does mostly meat or some sort of ketogenics where you just eat a lot
of fat and she's felt a lot better and she got him eating that way and he's doing it
Now he basically only eats meat and he loves it. He says he's way happier. It's helped him
You know rashes have gone away ginger vitus has gone away. He just feels so much better. He's healthier stronger
I mean that stuff's cool, you know
It's not a lot of science behind that only eat meat. I don't know, I think I miss veggies,
but it's not the worst kind of diet, steak every day.
Come on, yeah.
Give me some steak.
I think even Joe said he might try it, which is cool.
So yeah, we'll see where that goes.
And see if Joe jumps on, or you can eat meat diet.
I basically does that anyway.
I mean, one of the, just post the Instagram, nothing but pictures of elk and the jalapenos. Right. Next up was Brendan
Sharp, MMA 33. I love the MMA shows. You know, what's cool is even if you're not a big fight fan
and you just like his podcast, MMA shows are some of the best ones because they get into all sorts
of things. Fighters don't always just talk about fighting. It's surprising, you know, it's a lot of like nutrition or the rest of it, especially
when Brandon's on because they're such good friends, you know, a lot of times they talk
about comedy. They start up, we're talking about how, and they were, it was a bit tongue
and cheek, but like how all UFC fighters should just be, all the old ones should just be
juiced up, right? so steroid it to their eyeballs
because they're old they've got all this talent they've been fighting for ever they're
really good at fighting but their bodies are old and given out well if they go over
to leagues like Bellator with an attesting quite as strict as the UFC is you know they
can just load up they can just do ton of steroids and get massively strong again and fight their ass off.
Now, is that a good idea?
Is it fair?
Is it whatever?
I don't know.
Listen, I'll make those rules,
but I do love watching some fighters fight.
And what really brought this up is like the V-Tool bell for.
He's a Brazilian fighter.
If you don't know who he is, Google that guy.
When he gets on test, starts around,
he blows up like he looks like a bull with a human
head.
I mean, he's terrifying.
And he's been fighting so long.
He's got so much skill.
He's incredible.
He takes all that knowledge into this, like, jacked body, which for all intensive purposes,
is like 10 years younger than his regular body would be.
And he's able to crush, and it's phenomenal to watch him fight in that
condition and you know Tito Ortiz and Chuck LaDale which were like big UFC fighters like heavyweight
in like 2005-ish you know both legends in their own right Chuck LaDale was just a killer and
you know they've retired now they're a lot older they're gonna come back and fight a third fight
And they've retired now, they're a lot older, they're gonna come back and fight, a third fight.
And the question is, can they do it?
In the shape that they're in, is it worth doing,
is it that damaging for them?
Ah, I don't know, but I wanna watch that fucking fight,
people, I think it's gonna be great in their legends.
I'm totally down for it.
I don't know.
I don't know if these guys should just be jacked on steroids.
I don't know how bad that stuff is, but, uh, maybe it's not so bad.
Maybe it's not so bad.
Maybe it's actually better for them.
Maybe they're less likely to get injured. Um, they talked a little bit
about, uh, Jocco, Brendan, I guess has never met Jocco.
Jocco Willink, who has been on Joe's podcast quite a bit.
He has this, he's at X Navy seal and he has this amazing video called Good and it's a inspiration or motivational video
and if you guys haven't seen it, turn this shit off now and watch it on YouTube. It's
so fucking good. Joe plays it all the time so you must know about it but he just talks
about the idea that even when bad things
happen, it can be good.
And what makes them good is that you get to see where
the failure is and how you can fix it, how you can adjust,
how this is an opportunity for strength.
Now, it takes a lot of thinking and a lot of focus
to be able to turn something around like that,
but it's really necessary.
And why Joe liked it and brought it up is because Brandon basically is
Good known for doing this anyway. He's very good at keeping things positive keeping things like
brushing
Problems off his back. You know, it's what makes him so strong. It's what makes him so good at comedy
I mean, he's only been in comedy for two years or something not very long
For a comedian that that's nothing.
And he sells out places.
Like he travels all over.
I mean, it's incredible.
Really, it's unprecedented with how good he is.
I mean, he just works so hard.
I mean, he was a professional athlete,
like, you know, a football player,
and then a UFC fighter.
So he was able to just crush his way through the
circuit in a sense. I mean, it's, you know, he really learns that craft and he is good.
I've seen him live a few times. He's very good and he improves very quickly. It's really
impressive. Yeah, the dude is about his hard work and is, is you can imagine. He will have
a special soon, a a comedy special not that long
I'm sure I think he probably just doesn't want to jump ahead of himself because even two years with his
Successors he is you know, you really want to hone a special down because they last forever once you make that they see it forever
So you know, that's kind of where he is with things
So that's kind of where he is with things. Yeah, the last thing that they talked about, which I really liked, the idea of, too, is
they talked about the value of UFC, how expensive it is, you know, that it was sold for 4.2
billion.
How can they make more money, right?
Could it ever be as big as baseball or basketball?
Well, something they brought up is making it free
so that more people can watch it.
And therefore, you have more advertisers.
Well, that is a fascinating idea.
And I've never really even ran that through my brain before,
but then you get, let's say it was a prime prime time event, you know, then you get all the revenue
I mean think how much money basketball makes and they've got about as many I think there's like 500 something people in the NBA players
You know, there's there's about that in the UFC with fighters. So how do you make?
You know the UFC is big as, you know, something like the NBA.
That's tough.
That's a tough call.
Do you keep it always as a paper view or do you give it to everyone for free and then
let the public decide if they really like it?
I mean, when more people get a chance to watch it, more opportunity for growth, I think
in a lot of ways because it's not just a little niche market. I mean the UFC is big, people love it. So I don't
know. I don't know if they're ever even trying anything like that but it's a cool idea
to play with. I guess they kind of do it on FS1, kind of. Next guest for the week, Joey
Diaz. And Joey is the best. Come on he's the best he's the funniest he's
fucking awesome. Joey Diaz is a long time great friend of Joe. I've seen Joe Diaz live
multiple times in L.A. West Hollywood in New Mexico. I even saw him at a casino once and let me tell you straight up as a lover of
comedy period he really is the best he
There's something about the way he builds energy. He just makes fucking tidal waves
tsunamis and he goes off and he just like the passion
Behind the ridiculous things that he's saying is phenomenal.
And it does seem so off the cuff. I absolutely love this guy. I can't get enough of him.
And I'm really excited that he's just made a comedy special. He just made his comedy special.
He just finished it. I don't know if it's going to be on Netflix. I think it finished that I don't know if it's gonna be on Netflix. I think it is I don't know when it's coming out but
You know he just got through with it. He's pretty nervous. I think he did two takes and he's not sure how well it went
but yeah, he was telling Joe about that and
That it's coming out soon and and then of course he gets into everything he gets into talking about
Edibles right Joe has got a great podcast
It's very funny and he has a
sound guy that does Edibles with him
and the sound editing guy often gets
like super high because Joey like slips
him too much and really fives him up
because Joey finds it funny. So this poor
guy is just getting like way, way high
while trying to do his job, which is
in a lot of ways, it's really quite funny and you can see some good videos on YouTube of that sound guy struggling through,
I forget his name, but struggling through like an episode and yeah, and that's really
the best way to get to know Joey is listening to that podcast anyway, it's so good.
He goes into growing up in Jersey as a Cuban,
back in the 70s, like how difficult it was,
the people that took him in, families,
that he kind of connected to.
So Joey's mom died when he was quite young,
is like a bit of the backstory.
And Joey found her and then ended up living
with different families and he had a tough, got a lot
of trouble when he was younger.
He just kind of describes those neighborhoods in such an interesting way.
It's like I can't even imagine.
They talk about how the racism was in the 70s and the 80s.
It was just totally normal to be just throwing round words.
Of course, as a Cuban, he was called everything and it was just like, well, you deal with that, I guess.
And you'd see neighborhood kids just get hit by neighbors.
Someone just whacks a kid for whatever reason
for messing around.
It was just like different world.
It growing up tough.
Maybe it was because it was tougher back then.
And they had to grow up that way.
I mean, who knows?
I mean, it's no doubt that, you know, we're raising a bunch of soft kids these days.
I don't know what that means, but, you know, is that's how it goes.
You know, it's kids again soft.
For sure, kids again soft. We'll see what the next couple of generations are.
Just doing nothing but playing video games.
Talking about getting soft and not doing anything,
Joey obviously overweight.
He's been a big guy for a long time.
He's working out like a motherfucker.
Going a jujitsu a lot.
Going to the gym, really working, you know,
just hard all the time.
And a big motivation is that he has a kid, a young kid,
and wants to be around for his kid.
And, you know, got to be proud of that.
Like, that's so awesome that he's doing it.
Especially because, on a selfish note,
I want him around forever.
His comedy is fucking gold.
I don't want him going away from podcasts.
I love listening to this guy.
Keep that ticker going man for sure
Some of the the really cool stuff that they get into and I think it's just some of Joe's like favorite things
He's talking about what the future is gonna be like how things are gonna change how we're gonna change and Joe's always banging on about this like
You know in 10 years we'll be reading each other's mind business. Like this is how
communication's going. Joe really thinks that this change is going to happen.
Joe mostly just listening and chiming too much, but but yeah they were just
talking about how how to get to that point where where we're really
integrated into technology at it's such a rate that you know we're really integrated into technology. It's such a rate that we can really understand
each other's minds.
Now, what does that get us?
Where does that, where would that even lead us?
What kind of positivity would that be?
Well, one of the big things they hit on
and something recently Joey was talking about
was how he got upset thinking about
some of these celebrity suicides like Chris
Connell or Anthony Bourdain.
And just that point that somebody would be so sad and so down that they would do this
to themselves.
And I'm not trying to end this on a fucking depressive note, but it's something to think about, you
know.
It's like when people always ask themselves, and I'm sure there's a lot of people that
know those two celebrities that were close and they were like, what could I've done?
And it's like, if we just, I think those people feel like if they just had that little
extra bit of conversation with them or gave them that little extra compliment or just
made them feel like they were just there that we could, you could just turn that bit
of mind around.
And people shouldn't blame themselves with these things but we can be sad for it.
And in the biggest way it does kind of highlight the advantage of something like, you know,
not necessarily mind-reading, but just being able to be really connected to other people
that you care about.
So, so that you know when they're slipping off into a dark place.
And that's, that's my message of the end people.
Just love the people around you and make sure that they know that you love them.
All right, so thanks a lot.
Next time we're gonna have my buddy Eddie back on,
he was on, I think podcast three.
We're gonna get into who we got Theo Vaughn
and there's another MMA one coming up.
I'm not exactly sure who the guest is,
but anytime talking about Theo is fantastic.
Theo Vaughn is fucking hilarious. So make sure to listen to those Rogan podcasts and thanks
for joining and thanks for tuning in. Cheers guys!