Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - The Joe Rogan Experience Review of the week
Episode Date: July 3, 2018Episodes 1135 - 1138  What an incredible week of guests. Such amazing episodes and for 30 minutes I delve into it.  Guests included: Ari Shaffir - comedian, world class shit talker. Ha...milton Morris - TV show host and psychedelic adventurer. Duncan Trussell - comedian, sweetheart of a guy. Ted Nugent - Rockstar, avid hunter and gun owner  Enjoy folks!Â
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So I just took shit. All right. It's low budget. I do it from basic equipment. There's no intro music get over that
It's just a bit of fun and I throw some things out the idea of this is I'm gonna have guests on our interview them
Talk to them. They're gonna be fans of Rogan. They're gonna talk about what they enjoyed and questions that they had
I always have extra questions about this show
about Joe show and
The guest that he has on and I always want to
tell a bit deeper and it's cool to talk to people about this stuff. I love doing
it in my regular day so now I do it as a podcast. I just made it a thing.
Why the fuck not, right? If you got questions, comments, hit me up and you know and
who knows we'll get you on as a guest at a good time. So this week, week 26,
this year is flying by.
What a fucking great week for Rogan.
He had Ariesha Fier, like one of his best friends on,
for 1135 Hamilton Morris,
the psychedelic adventure of that guy's a nut,
and also super smart and really cool.
Duncan Trussle, another one of Joe's really good friends,
and always such a sweet heart of a guy. What a dude. And an hilarious comedian and then end the week
with Ted Nugent, right? Ted fucking Nugent. What a hoot. So you've heard the podcast and
let's talk about him a little bit. So Erie as always, just one of the best, even his
podcast. If you haven't checked out Erie's fearsierce podcast do it it's really good he puts together a great one
and uh starting off out of the gate just cracked me up so he went to some festival
where he did acid and he had one of those like realization moments these
moments of infinite truth and what came forward was a message that he had to tell Joe saying
M&M is the most realist MC. That is the message that he brought forward. And yes, he knows that
now he's sober, that's a stupid message to tell Joe. And Joe was like, yeah, whatever, that guy's
pretty good. But again, it just goes, it goes to show what this guy's like. Area is about is
freer human being is you could imagine from what I understand. The dude can just
go anywhere, do anything at any time. Not to say there's no responsibility, he has a
show and he does his comedy but he really is free to go and that I don't know about
you guys but if that doesn't fucking inspire you I don't know about you guys but if that doesn't
fucking inspire you I don't know what's wrong with you to know that that's
possible and it can be done I mean how fucking awesome is that it just absolutely
is great. Some of the stuff they're talking about this week and you you guys
probably saw it too is that woman who caused the cops on that little girl and I'd
be really interesting to see what people think about this or what their take was.
It was going all around Instagram, it was online, it was just this woman probably in her,
I don't know, she looked like 40s, she was just kind of like overweight,
looks sad, looks grumpy, looks like a bitch.
And she's calling the cops on this I think eight
year old girl for selling water outside her apartment I mean what kind of
person you know not to jump all over this bird but really like what are you doing
this this little girl is eight and she's saying that she didn't have a permit
and couldn't you know was it allowed to do it. I'm like, come on now.
Who gives a fuck about that, you know?
I mean, it's pretty clear that online people
just had no time for it.
And quite rightly so, but of course they are bringing that up.
Erie was also going on, so they brought up
Chell Sonnen, so Chell Sonnen is used to be a UFC fighter,
great fighter
And he was giving Joe a hard time for
basically
whistle blowing in a sense when it came so so what UFC fighters will do sometimes to hyper fight is they talk a lot of shit
And they that's part of the process
well Joe describes this because
this is what Joe Rogan does, he describes things that he sees and and chair son in this USC fight,
it was getting mad at him and saying hey he's giving it all away, he's giving away our secrets and
how to do it which is kind of nonsense but that's just jail talking anyway. So Erish Afir, he doesn't
know a chair, but Erry is like one of the greatest trolls of all time. If he thinks
he can fucking wind you up he will do it and he just came out of the gate picking on Chao and it
was fucking hilarious. Just saying that he's stupid he doesn't know anything which is absolutely not
true. Chao's son and it's a very smart dude but just the way Aerie was kind of on him was was absolutely hilarious and
I can't wait to see that where that goes guaranteed chair is gonna do something they're gonna wind this shit up and an
Area take it wherever he needs to so look out for something fun there
Oh, they were talking about some of the things with the Harvard discrimination against Asians so
Basically the moment Harvard University is doing, a lot
of Asian people are getting in there, right? So they're making it so that the requirements
for people from Asia are much whether it's Asia or China, I don't know, really all that
well, but whether this is, they're just making it really difficult, they're making it so
hard for these people to get into this university, which is a making it really difficult. They're making it so hard for these people
to get into this university,
which is a kind of crazy discrimination.
You think that a Harvard is a very liberal place,
so they were just bringing this up.
Now bear in mind, I'm not doing research on this, right?
I'm talking about what they talked about.
But it sounds fascinating, I'm sure somebody is looked
into it and do it yourself, but, you know,
you could believe in this day and age
as something like that would happen. But what's the thought behind it? Who gives a shit if a bunch of smart agents go to Harvard
shouldn't they? Like they're the smart ones. That's who gets to go. Who knows maybe the word that
Americans are losing that, losing that spot. It's just yeah it's kind of like the opposite of a
affirmative action in that sense.
Wild, wild stuff, but a great guest, a fucking hilarious podcast, and I love
Aerie, and if you haven't checked out his standup, you got to, he has a new
Netflix special, it's like a double, it does two episodes in there, and it's
fucking great, I love it, It's very clever. Very clever.
Podcast 1135 Hamilton Morris. Now Hamilton's a documentarian. He is on the channel
Vicelands where he has a show called Hamilton's Pharmacopia. It's basically like a study of drugs
or at least like hallucinogenic drugs. He was on the Rogan podcast before. I believe it was really early on. I believe it was like podcast
one, 14. It's so long ago, I honestly don't even remember listening to it. And I know I've
listened to them all, but anyway, I went back and I listened to some of it. And Joe talks about
how they stayed so far on this episode because seven years ago they got blitz.
They got just as high as you can imagine and it's quite funny because when I went back and
watched that podcast, 100% true. You can tell. I mean, it's the earlier days of podcast if you
Joe, but he's always been pretty good with this stuff. You know, I mean, really very articulate and
I mean really very articulate and kind of produced the show as well with these long format talks.
But yeah, he's noticeably quieter and a little bit more confused than he openly admits it
on this one.
So this time around, it wasn't as high, a little bit more focused and the conversation just
really went into it. And it is so fascinating because
what's cool about hearing the way Hamilton talks about these things and obviously Joe
has a great love and knows there's a place for these, this sort of study, it hasn't been
studied all that well, it hasn't been that quantified, it's usually stories, the hippies tell
but then you get somebody that looks at it from a kind of scientific mind that's very logical like Hamilton
And he's very intelligent and he starts to break it down for what it is and I think I
Really do think that that you can be interested in a drug support what it does and
want to
Understand it and learn about it yet not do it and that's reasonable and you should be allowed to and
The more information we gather the better the opportunity is I mean why does somebody have to do
mushrooms to kind of get a kind of understanding of what it is where it comes from how it works
What it's doing in your system what kind of positive changes it could have, or negative, etc. That's why I love
these guys. He really puts it forward. I watched a little bit of his show, the second season,
I watched a couple of episodes. It's really well produced and definitely check it out.
I found it on Hulu. I think it's on Amazon too, we have to pay for each episode. I found it on Hulu. It's I think it's on Amazon too
We have to pay for each episode. I don't really know how that goes
But some of the stuff they got into was cradum now. I don't know if you guys are hearing a lot about cradum these days
Cradum is
some natural drug that works kind of like an opioid from what Hamilton was saying yet
It doesn't quite have the addictive personality, the addictive personality, the addictive qualities and it's not as
damaging for your system. Yet a low doses, I think it works as a stimulant but
also I think the whole time as a bit of a painkiller and then a higher
doses like you get kind of higher from it.
Right. Now that I'm getting this from what Joe said, Joe said he took like eight one
milligram pills and and really felt a bit different. But,
the grade is interesting because I think it's still legal now that trying to download it,
I want to learn more about it. If any of you guys know, hit me up, let me know. But,
if you guys have tried it especially, I'm curious.
You know, I mean, what pain killers are there out there that we can even use?
Like, turmeric is supposed to be good for inflammation, but it's not really a pain killer.
It seems like everything that kills any pain or relieves any pressure is like bad for
our system in a horrendous way.
And it just, I don't know, that doesn't fucking
flow with me guys. I don't feel like there isn't anything out there that we can find that
should, it should minimize physical pain and inflammation without causing massive side
effects. It just seems bananas. There's not a more natural version. So if this is it,
fuck yeah. And I hope that they get to
do more studies into it and we learn more about them and we kind of go from there. Some of the
really interesting parts that Hamilton brought up was how he proceeds the dangers of drugs. And
he's very defensive of that of anyone saying that drugs are dangerous.
All that that's even a big deal.
Because he's saying it's not a good way to quantify a drug.
Or like to really define it or understand it.
I mean, to say, oh,
Cradle in certain dosages can kill people.
Then therefore we have to ban this drug completely.
He's basically saying, well, everything can kill at least some type of person because there's so
many varieties of us. It doesn't necessarily make it the drugs fault in that sense. I don't know if
I was really with him on the point, but I do kind of get where he was going with it, right?
Because it's a slippery slope if you just leave it open to
someone trying to find out a way that this drug is bad. I mean in
Enough of a day. The most important thing is just to understand the drug, understand a good healthy dosage and
Define the dangers of the drug that way
and define the dangers of the drug that way. And then also the benefits of it.
And really these things can only be done
with extensive study.
And I think that's a big part of what he was saying really.
Another really interesting one they were talking about is
I began.
Now, this drug, I don't know a lot about it,
other than what Hamilton was saying, is a super
complex 3D molecular form, so we can't synthesize it in a lab because it's just too complex,
so it can't be made.
But I began, is one that people use that in Mexico because it's illegal in this country.
It's supposed to be a very intense, long-last thing, psychedelic.
It really has you kind of like analyzing your life and really kind of seeing into yourself.
And it's supposed to be helping people with addictions, right?
With these like, unbreakable habits, it kind of
gives you a reset and it's helping people get away from some really dangerous addictions.
And I mean, again, I don't think that, okay, you want to ban a drug, right? Ban a drug
country, do it. That's fine. But why you would not then allow scientists to do research on
it? It is nuts to me, right?
It's like, well, you could say what's banned.
Well, yeah, uranium is banned for like most people to get a hold of.
That makes sense. We can't be giving that to everyone.
But it doesn't mean that scientists aren't doing studies on new ways to make,
you know, nuclear power. That would be bananas.
So why not at least figure out what it does instead of just banning it and knowing
ever looking at it?
It's like, it's very strange that they do that.
It just seems like governments are so afraid to find any positives out of psychedelics.
I don't know what they think it would happen.
They just rather people dying of opioid addiction then even consider any clinical advantage to psychedelics.
And the scary thing about that is,
okay, I'm not trying to stick up for psychedelics.
I'm sure Hamilton is, but whether I am or not,
what you have to think about is if they ban this,
right, with these psychedelics, what you have to think about is if they ban this, right?
With these psychedelics, what other things could they ban
that could also have really good benefits?
I mean, we should not, we should just not stop scientists
looking in almost any direction for positive advances
for humans.
I mean, it just doesn't make any sense to me at all.
for humans. I mean, it just doesn't make any sense to me at all. The next thing that they moved on to was kind of the history and lineage of these drug use. So like, peyote,
most people know about, you don't know a lot about it, right? Like, I don't, like, some
tribes, some Native American tribe have been taking it for what I will assume will be
thousands of years. And then there's also five meO DMT, which is used by a tribe in Mexico. And again, the same thing we thought that was used
forever and blah, blah, blah. But what's interesting is Hamilton was saying what looking at this,
it doesn't look like anyone really used POD longer than more than 100 years ago. And as far as
you can tell, using five MEO DMT or DMT at all,
may have only happened the first time in the 80s.
So these aren't these mystical old drugs, potentially,
that people used to think that they were.
And that's really fascinating to me,
because if that's the case, then it makes them fairly new.
It makes it's only a couple of generations
that we've had this, and I wonder what the message is there
so Really cool really cool stuff great
Feedback always from Joe. I mean he's so into it, but just to hear these two go into it
Man, I learned a lot from that. I was I was stoked after that one
So definitely check out Hamilton's pharmacopia that show get on Hulu whatever really good and
And yeah, then Duncan Trosswell's on
Duncan's amazing absolutely sweet heart of a guy on podcast 1136
Starting off with how Apple keyboards suck they
Ah shit
They are not PC keyboards. I
Who knows man? Is it the era now?
Is it time where we're like, you know what? Apple isn't as fucking good as PC? At least their keyboards aren't I mean
I see that they just the two flat. They don't have the click. It is a complaint people should be pissed off about it
I just seems like come on apple. Well, fuck get it together
Nuts not so after complaining about that seems like come on up, oh fuck get it together.
Nuts, nuts. So after complaining about that,
Duncan, as always, he's a big advocate for,
again, the psychedelic era and what it can bring.
And, but also, you know, he reports on the truth
and he reports on things that are a problem.
And one thing that
people are finding is that yes, psychedelics can be a problem for people that are prone to schizophrenia or depression or it can kind of like speed up a break, maybe a psychotic break or whatever.
So there were some risks to it and he brought up how some kid did like an eight day ayahuasca
trip, you know, they're like taking that stuff every night down in Mexico wherever.
And then he went to see some other type of shaman person and that after that when he got
home he jumped off a waterfall, killed himself.
So I mean, you know, he was to say, like, it is the point, right?
So Hamilton would say the same thing, he can't blame the drug.
The kid may have done those things anyway,
he's sure it coincided with that, but I mean, at what point was he needing to do this and blah blah blah blah.
Well, the, an eight day ayahuasca trip, holy shit, if if this is a new drug that is way too fucking long
To be doing it like 8 day. Do you even the tribes do it for that long?
I feel like your brain will come out of the other side completely scrambled like what the fuck would even be left?
I
Mean it's it's a question, right? I mean that's a lot to do a one day or two is even,
you know, a lot, but about many days,
you know, I haven't done that drug, I don't know about it,
but that's gonna take you somewhere dark, that is.
And yeah, I mean, this is why Duncan moves
into meditation after that, and mindfulness, and just kind of getting to know yourself and he's struggling with it
He was talking about how terribly is I don't know if Joe meditates probably maybe in some way definitely does in his float tanks
But yeah, he was just don't come as talking about how wild the mind is and how fast it moves and I mean arm with him
I don't know if you guys have ever tried to sit still
and sometimes you have to breathe so loud
just to hear something that's loud enough
to like block out your mind racing.
It's just crazy how much noise is going on in there.
And being able to, being able to kind of block that out,
even for five or 10 minutes a day, super important. It really is.
If anyone struggles, you know, and struggles to the point of like kind of panic with things
and life and definitely puts some time in for meditation, you know, it's not the cure
to all things, but it gives you a little bit of peace. I mean, Duncan has had some real bouts with depression before.
He moved in with Joe many years ago because something had happened to him and he was like
struggling, or he got kicked out of his apartment.
And that whole time he was really struggling with things.
He did a lot of float tank, he had a little journal, he rode in it and you know, LaGuayri is now, he's in a much better place and Joe helped him
out and just a testament to how great that guy is and also how good friends they are.
But taking that time, listening to your mind, trying to relax, you know, it's good to
do. It really is. But a mindfulness, get deep there, get deep. They did a great
back and forth with being Devil's advocate and doing drugs in the workplace and testing
piss, which is really invasive. America likes to do it and Joe played the devil and Duncan
was the employee trying to say, hey, this is why you shouldn't do this. And they were
going back and forth.
And it was really pretty interesting.
It was quite funny because Joe's point is he's pushing productivity and being on time
and working hard and getting things done and paying a mortgage and Duncan's obviously
pulling on while you've got to think about work, life balance and taking away stress and
enjoying your work.
And, you know, there definitely is a balance in there somewhere.
I mean, obviously you can't be fucked up or you wouldn't get anything done.
But, you know, what you do when you get home really should be up to you.
And within reason, I mean, you can't be heavily addicted to crack and then work in finance
or people's money because you're susceptible to getting
you know blackmail or God knows what else. I mean you gotta be careful but
But it was a great back and forth those two are hilarious and and Joe played a solid
You know, he had some great retorts that are that were difficult even for Duncan to hit back on
Duncan if you know him as a big video game, they jumped in a
playing video games for a while. God of War was one that they talked about and I
guess Joe would never seen this. Duncan likes God of War, that game looks sick.
I like to know if anyone has it, if they're playing it right now, I really want to
fucking get that game. It looks bad, I don't have a lot of time video games, but the way they were describing it and how it looked, maybe I can make a bit of time.
I don't know, I have to see. I have to see. Then they were ending it with how to treat people,
which is what Duncan and Joe always get into. Be nice to yourself, be nice to other people.
Right? It's easy to say how to do, but it can be done. And imagine what we can do if we all do a little bit of that. I try to, I do,
I get pissed off, but I try to be nice, be patient. I'm learning, we're all learning.
But one cool thing that Joe says that he does is he drops what he cycles love bombs. So
love bomb is what Joe will do when he's in Duncan was bringing this up. But try not to say that Joe does it, which became apparent.
But Joe will drop $100 tip on a coffee at a restaurant.
Now, obviously he didn't say that he did it all the time, but he's got the money and
he loves to do it.
And he likes to just kind of leave before he even gets credit for it.
And people go out of their mind when that happens.
You know what a fantastic thing to do. I mean you know it definitely cheers them up no end.
Maybe for a day, maybe for a week, maybe forever. I mean they're always going to remember that
Joe did that. And just the fact that you could do that to anyone. I'd love to be in a position to
do that. I think that that's such a wonderful thing.
Any millionaires out there listening to this,
tip, tip your fuckers, tip, give back.
Really cheer someone up, you know?
I think it's probably the best thing to do
if you have an shitty day.
You could cheer someone up real quick like that.
I mean, it's gonna cheer you up.
Come on, do it.
Our last podcast of the week, Ted Nugent, 1137,
I knew this fucking guy was coming on.
Joe had been talking about him way too much,
kind of talking about him being a bit of a nut.
If you don't know him, and I didn't really know a lot about him,
all you hear is he's gone nut,
he might be a racist, and he's a fucking NRA lunatic.
You know, when you're hearing him for three hours,
listen, he's a rock star and he's
been a rock star for fucking 50 years. I mean he's not gonna be a hundred percent normal. I mean he's
definitely gonna be a little wacky out there but I mean he wasn't a complete lunatic. He I don't
agree with all of his policies but I liked what he had to say and And he put it in a way that, you know, in a lot of it,
though he was pretty dismissive of
any other way of thinking that his own
and calling the other people lunatics.
If he had just changed that to like,
people that don't agree with me
or people that don't see it my way or the uneducated, you know,
but banging on about ignorance and people not having a soul because they didn't think his way was right. It's a bit harsh. But anyway, the guy is rockstar,
huge hunter, an avid bow hunter, I believe. He's supposed to be very good. He's hunted with
all the best people in the world, hunts year-round, gives a fuck ton meat to charity. And he's a huge advocate for it, for the rights of guns and for the right to hunt.
He knows a lot about wildlife reserve stuff.
He's really very switched on.
You know, the dude is like 70 and still performing a ton.
He didn't sound like an old man on the podcast.
I mean, he was hyperactive as
fuck. He had some good energy and he's a big dude. He's like, what is it? Two 20, 240,
62, big dude. And really, you know, I got to say, I liked his style. He's quality. Again,
it doesn't mean I agree with all of his politics and the things that he's saying.
I mean some of it is way out there. But you know, at least he's not a complete moron and saying things I disagree with.
It's nice to hear a different side of things, you know, and to know that it's not total ignorance on that end.
Like people are thinking and we can always learn and there's wherever you take your position, like you just take on a little bit more knowledge
and you're like, okay, I mean, I think he did it.
He's a huge anti-drug guy, right?
He kind of wraps them all together,
like weed and dope and blah and high
and he just says everything like that.
Well, Joe jumped on him with that,
and he is like, listen, I smoke weed, I don't think it's bad.
I think that it doesn't make people lazy
and maybe it's their motivation already.
Like maybe they're just lazy people, you know,
they wanna have their priorities right.
And these drugs get bad names,
which again, this is a point that Hamilton would have brought up
and said in that way, which is really cool
that all this kinda came together in one week.
But it's true. He's just saying that it takes this bad rap, but it's not really hurting people.
And if you are lazy while smoking weed, maybe you'd be fucking lazy if you want. It's not the
cause of it. It's like it's just part of it. And that's pretty cool.
That's really pretty cool.
And lastly, one of the best things I thought about Ted Newgins.
So he loves guns.
He's talking about, if people had had guns,
or been allowed to have guns during a lot of the mass
shootings of the last few years,
somebody could have stopped them, right?
So this is kind of his angle for mass shootings
if more people had guns. That's just his side of it.
I don't know how I feel about that.
But what was cool is he said,
well, you know what?
Cops are allowed to carry guns nationwide.
So he's been a sheriff since like 1987.
This fucking cracks me up.
So he's been a sheriff since 1987.
And then there's even some international laws
that say that like
office like sheriffs in the US can carry guns in other countries and he's saying you can
carry a gun when he goes to the UK. I don't think he's a liar. After hearing him talk,
yeah, he's manic, yeah, he gets excited, yeah, he's opinionated, but it didn't sound like a liar.
So I have to believe that this is true. It's just, you know, it's just my gut feeling, but I have never fucking, I'm English.
I've never heard of any American being able to bring a gun
to England and carry it.
I just couldn't imagine a scenario like that.
I mean, maybe Secret Service will guard the President,
but fuck, who fucking knows?
What a weird guy, a fascinating guy,
and you know, it was good to have him on.
What a great way to end such a fucking great week.
And I'm trying to keep this under half an hour because our attention spans are only so
long and this is believe me not the most important podcast of your week.
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