Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - The Joe Rogan Experience Review of the week

Episode Date: July 3, 2018

Episodes 1135 - 1138   What an incredible week of guests.  Such amazing episodes and for 30 minutes I delve into it.    Guests included: Ari Shaffir - comedian, world class shit talker.  Ha...milton Morris - TV show host and psychedelic adventurer. Duncan Trussell - comedian,  sweetheart of a guy.  Ted Nugent - Rockstar, avid hunter and gun owner   Enjoy folks! 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey guys and welcome to another week podcast six of the J.I.E review. Thanks so much for downloading and Your support really appreciate it. This is a website for the fans for people that love the Joe Rogan experience and want a little more So I just took shit. All right. It's low budget. I do it from basic equipment. There's no intro music get over that It's just a bit of fun and I throw some things out the idea of this is I'm gonna have guests on our interview them Talk to them. They're gonna be fans of Rogan. They're gonna talk about what they enjoyed and questions that they had I always have extra questions about this show about Joe show and The guest that he has on and I always want to
Starting point is 00:00:45 tell a bit deeper and it's cool to talk to people about this stuff. I love doing it in my regular day so now I do it as a podcast. I just made it a thing. Why the fuck not, right? If you got questions, comments, hit me up and you know and who knows we'll get you on as a guest at a good time. So this week, week 26, this year is flying by. What a fucking great week for Rogan. He had Ariesha Fier, like one of his best friends on, for 1135 Hamilton Morris,
Starting point is 00:01:15 the psychedelic adventure of that guy's a nut, and also super smart and really cool. Duncan Trussle, another one of Joe's really good friends, and always such a sweet heart of a guy. What a dude. And an hilarious comedian and then end the week with Ted Nugent, right? Ted fucking Nugent. What a hoot. So you've heard the podcast and let's talk about him a little bit. So Erie as always, just one of the best, even his podcast. If you haven't checked out Erie's fearsierce podcast do it it's really good he puts together a great one and uh starting off out of the gate just cracked me up so he went to some festival
Starting point is 00:01:55 where he did acid and he had one of those like realization moments these moments of infinite truth and what came forward was a message that he had to tell Joe saying M&M is the most realist MC. That is the message that he brought forward. And yes, he knows that now he's sober, that's a stupid message to tell Joe. And Joe was like, yeah, whatever, that guy's pretty good. But again, it just goes, it goes to show what this guy's like. Area is about is freer human being is you could imagine from what I understand. The dude can just go anywhere, do anything at any time. Not to say there's no responsibility, he has a show and he does his comedy but he really is free to go and that I don't know about
Starting point is 00:02:42 you guys but if that doesn't fucking inspire you I don't know about you guys but if that doesn't fucking inspire you I don't know what's wrong with you to know that that's possible and it can be done I mean how fucking awesome is that it just absolutely is great. Some of the stuff they're talking about this week and you you guys probably saw it too is that woman who caused the cops on that little girl and I'd be really interesting to see what people think about this or what their take was. It was going all around Instagram, it was online, it was just this woman probably in her, I don't know, she looked like 40s, she was just kind of like overweight,
Starting point is 00:03:19 looks sad, looks grumpy, looks like a bitch. And she's calling the cops on this I think eight year old girl for selling water outside her apartment I mean what kind of person you know not to jump all over this bird but really like what are you doing this this little girl is eight and she's saying that she didn't have a permit and couldn't you know was it allowed to do it. I'm like, come on now. Who gives a fuck about that, you know? I mean, it's pretty clear that online people
Starting point is 00:03:52 just had no time for it. And quite rightly so, but of course they are bringing that up. Erie was also going on, so they brought up Chell Sonnen, so Chell Sonnen is used to be a UFC fighter, great fighter And he was giving Joe a hard time for basically whistle blowing in a sense when it came so so what UFC fighters will do sometimes to hyper fight is they talk a lot of shit
Starting point is 00:04:21 And they that's part of the process well Joe describes this because this is what Joe Rogan does, he describes things that he sees and and chair son in this USC fight, it was getting mad at him and saying hey he's giving it all away, he's giving away our secrets and how to do it which is kind of nonsense but that's just jail talking anyway. So Erish Afir, he doesn't know a chair, but Erry is like one of the greatest trolls of all time. If he thinks he can fucking wind you up he will do it and he just came out of the gate picking on Chao and it was fucking hilarious. Just saying that he's stupid he doesn't know anything which is absolutely not
Starting point is 00:04:59 true. Chao's son and it's a very smart dude but just the way Aerie was kind of on him was was absolutely hilarious and I can't wait to see that where that goes guaranteed chair is gonna do something they're gonna wind this shit up and an Area take it wherever he needs to so look out for something fun there Oh, they were talking about some of the things with the Harvard discrimination against Asians so Basically the moment Harvard University is doing, a lot of Asian people are getting in there, right? So they're making it so that the requirements for people from Asia are much whether it's Asia or China, I don't know, really all that well, but whether this is, they're just making it really difficult, they're making it so
Starting point is 00:05:43 hard for these people to get into this university, which is a making it really difficult. They're making it so hard for these people to get into this university, which is a kind of crazy discrimination. You think that a Harvard is a very liberal place, so they were just bringing this up. Now bear in mind, I'm not doing research on this, right? I'm talking about what they talked about. But it sounds fascinating, I'm sure somebody is looked
Starting point is 00:05:59 into it and do it yourself, but, you know, you could believe in this day and age as something like that would happen. But what's the thought behind it? Who gives a shit if a bunch of smart agents go to Harvard shouldn't they? Like they're the smart ones. That's who gets to go. Who knows maybe the word that Americans are losing that, losing that spot. It's just yeah it's kind of like the opposite of a affirmative action in that sense. Wild, wild stuff, but a great guest, a fucking hilarious podcast, and I love Aerie, and if you haven't checked out his standup, you got to, he has a new
Starting point is 00:06:39 Netflix special, it's like a double, it does two episodes in there, and it's fucking great, I love it, It's very clever. Very clever. Podcast 1135 Hamilton Morris. Now Hamilton's a documentarian. He is on the channel Vicelands where he has a show called Hamilton's Pharmacopia. It's basically like a study of drugs or at least like hallucinogenic drugs. He was on the Rogan podcast before. I believe it was really early on. I believe it was like podcast one, 14. It's so long ago, I honestly don't even remember listening to it. And I know I've listened to them all, but anyway, I went back and I listened to some of it. And Joe talks about how they stayed so far on this episode because seven years ago they got blitz.
Starting point is 00:07:28 They got just as high as you can imagine and it's quite funny because when I went back and watched that podcast, 100% true. You can tell. I mean, it's the earlier days of podcast if you Joe, but he's always been pretty good with this stuff. You know, I mean, really very articulate and I mean really very articulate and kind of produced the show as well with these long format talks. But yeah, he's noticeably quieter and a little bit more confused than he openly admits it on this one. So this time around, it wasn't as high, a little bit more focused and the conversation just really went into it. And it is so fascinating because
Starting point is 00:08:08 what's cool about hearing the way Hamilton talks about these things and obviously Joe has a great love and knows there's a place for these, this sort of study, it hasn't been studied all that well, it hasn't been that quantified, it's usually stories, the hippies tell but then you get somebody that looks at it from a kind of scientific mind that's very logical like Hamilton And he's very intelligent and he starts to break it down for what it is and I think I Really do think that that you can be interested in a drug support what it does and want to Understand it and learn about it yet not do it and that's reasonable and you should be allowed to and
Starting point is 00:08:51 The more information we gather the better the opportunity is I mean why does somebody have to do mushrooms to kind of get a kind of understanding of what it is where it comes from how it works What it's doing in your system what kind of positive changes it could have, or negative, etc. That's why I love these guys. He really puts it forward. I watched a little bit of his show, the second season, I watched a couple of episodes. It's really well produced and definitely check it out. I found it on Hulu. I think it's on Amazon too, we have to pay for each episode. I found it on Hulu. It's I think it's on Amazon too We have to pay for each episode. I don't really know how that goes But some of the stuff they got into was cradum now. I don't know if you guys are hearing a lot about cradum these days
Starting point is 00:09:33 Cradum is some natural drug that works kind of like an opioid from what Hamilton was saying yet It doesn't quite have the addictive personality, the addictive personality, the addictive qualities and it's not as damaging for your system. Yet a low doses, I think it works as a stimulant but also I think the whole time as a bit of a painkiller and then a higher doses like you get kind of higher from it. Right. Now that I'm getting this from what Joe said, Joe said he took like eight one milligram pills and and really felt a bit different. But,
Starting point is 00:10:13 the grade is interesting because I think it's still legal now that trying to download it, I want to learn more about it. If any of you guys know, hit me up, let me know. But, if you guys have tried it especially, I'm curious. You know, I mean, what pain killers are there out there that we can even use? Like, turmeric is supposed to be good for inflammation, but it's not really a pain killer. It seems like everything that kills any pain or relieves any pressure is like bad for our system in a horrendous way. And it just, I don't know, that doesn't fucking
Starting point is 00:10:45 flow with me guys. I don't feel like there isn't anything out there that we can find that should, it should minimize physical pain and inflammation without causing massive side effects. It just seems bananas. There's not a more natural version. So if this is it, fuck yeah. And I hope that they get to do more studies into it and we learn more about them and we kind of go from there. Some of the really interesting parts that Hamilton brought up was how he proceeds the dangers of drugs. And he's very defensive of that of anyone saying that drugs are dangerous. All that that's even a big deal.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Because he's saying it's not a good way to quantify a drug. Or like to really define it or understand it. I mean, to say, oh, Cradle in certain dosages can kill people. Then therefore we have to ban this drug completely. He's basically saying, well, everything can kill at least some type of person because there's so many varieties of us. It doesn't necessarily make it the drugs fault in that sense. I don't know if I was really with him on the point, but I do kind of get where he was going with it, right?
Starting point is 00:12:05 Because it's a slippery slope if you just leave it open to someone trying to find out a way that this drug is bad. I mean in Enough of a day. The most important thing is just to understand the drug, understand a good healthy dosage and Define the dangers of the drug that way and define the dangers of the drug that way. And then also the benefits of it. And really these things can only be done with extensive study. And I think that's a big part of what he was saying really.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Another really interesting one they were talking about is I began. Now, this drug, I don't know a lot about it, other than what Hamilton was saying, is a super complex 3D molecular form, so we can't synthesize it in a lab because it's just too complex, so it can't be made. But I began, is one that people use that in Mexico because it's illegal in this country. It's supposed to be a very intense, long-last thing, psychedelic.
Starting point is 00:13:10 It really has you kind of like analyzing your life and really kind of seeing into yourself. And it's supposed to be helping people with addictions, right? With these like, unbreakable habits, it kind of gives you a reset and it's helping people get away from some really dangerous addictions. And I mean, again, I don't think that, okay, you want to ban a drug, right? Ban a drug country, do it. That's fine. But why you would not then allow scientists to do research on it? It is nuts to me, right? It's like, well, you could say what's banned.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Well, yeah, uranium is banned for like most people to get a hold of. That makes sense. We can't be giving that to everyone. But it doesn't mean that scientists aren't doing studies on new ways to make, you know, nuclear power. That would be bananas. So why not at least figure out what it does instead of just banning it and knowing ever looking at it? It's like, it's very strange that they do that. It just seems like governments are so afraid to find any positives out of psychedelics.
Starting point is 00:14:17 I don't know what they think it would happen. They just rather people dying of opioid addiction then even consider any clinical advantage to psychedelics. And the scary thing about that is, okay, I'm not trying to stick up for psychedelics. I'm sure Hamilton is, but whether I am or not, what you have to think about is if they ban this, right, with these psychedelics, what you have to think about is if they ban this, right? With these psychedelics, what other things could they ban
Starting point is 00:14:48 that could also have really good benefits? I mean, we should not, we should just not stop scientists looking in almost any direction for positive advances for humans. I mean, it just doesn't make any sense to me at all. for humans. I mean, it just doesn't make any sense to me at all. The next thing that they moved on to was kind of the history and lineage of these drug use. So like, peyote, most people know about, you don't know a lot about it, right? Like, I don't, like, some tribes, some Native American tribe have been taking it for what I will assume will be
Starting point is 00:15:22 thousands of years. And then there's also five meO DMT, which is used by a tribe in Mexico. And again, the same thing we thought that was used forever and blah, blah, blah. But what's interesting is Hamilton was saying what looking at this, it doesn't look like anyone really used POD longer than more than 100 years ago. And as far as you can tell, using five MEO DMT or DMT at all, may have only happened the first time in the 80s. So these aren't these mystical old drugs, potentially, that people used to think that they were. And that's really fascinating to me,
Starting point is 00:15:57 because if that's the case, then it makes them fairly new. It makes it's only a couple of generations that we've had this, and I wonder what the message is there so Really cool really cool stuff great Feedback always from Joe. I mean he's so into it, but just to hear these two go into it Man, I learned a lot from that. I was I was stoked after that one So definitely check out Hamilton's pharmacopia that show get on Hulu whatever really good and And yeah, then Duncan Trosswell's on
Starting point is 00:16:27 Duncan's amazing absolutely sweet heart of a guy on podcast 1136 Starting off with how Apple keyboards suck they Ah shit They are not PC keyboards. I Who knows man? Is it the era now? Is it time where we're like, you know what? Apple isn't as fucking good as PC? At least their keyboards aren't I mean I see that they just the two flat. They don't have the click. It is a complaint people should be pissed off about it I just seems like come on apple. Well, fuck get it together
Starting point is 00:17:04 Nuts not so after complaining about that seems like come on up, oh fuck get it together. Nuts, nuts. So after complaining about that, Duncan, as always, he's a big advocate for, again, the psychedelic era and what it can bring. And, but also, you know, he reports on the truth and he reports on things that are a problem. And one thing that people are finding is that yes, psychedelics can be a problem for people that are prone to schizophrenia or depression or it can kind of like speed up a break, maybe a psychotic break or whatever.
Starting point is 00:17:40 So there were some risks to it and he brought up how some kid did like an eight day ayahuasca trip, you know, they're like taking that stuff every night down in Mexico wherever. And then he went to see some other type of shaman person and that after that when he got home he jumped off a waterfall, killed himself. So I mean, you know, he was to say, like, it is the point, right? So Hamilton would say the same thing, he can't blame the drug. The kid may have done those things anyway, he's sure it coincided with that, but I mean, at what point was he needing to do this and blah blah blah blah.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Well, the, an eight day ayahuasca trip, holy shit, if if this is a new drug that is way too fucking long To be doing it like 8 day. Do you even the tribes do it for that long? I feel like your brain will come out of the other side completely scrambled like what the fuck would even be left? I Mean it's it's a question, right? I mean that's a lot to do a one day or two is even, you know, a lot, but about many days, you know, I haven't done that drug, I don't know about it, but that's gonna take you somewhere dark, that is.
Starting point is 00:18:57 And yeah, I mean, this is why Duncan moves into meditation after that, and mindfulness, and just kind of getting to know yourself and he's struggling with it He was talking about how terribly is I don't know if Joe meditates probably maybe in some way definitely does in his float tanks But yeah, he was just don't come as talking about how wild the mind is and how fast it moves and I mean arm with him I don't know if you guys have ever tried to sit still and sometimes you have to breathe so loud just to hear something that's loud enough to like block out your mind racing.
Starting point is 00:19:36 It's just crazy how much noise is going on in there. And being able to, being able to kind of block that out, even for five or 10 minutes a day, super important. It really is. If anyone struggles, you know, and struggles to the point of like kind of panic with things and life and definitely puts some time in for meditation, you know, it's not the cure to all things, but it gives you a little bit of peace. I mean, Duncan has had some real bouts with depression before. He moved in with Joe many years ago because something had happened to him and he was like struggling, or he got kicked out of his apartment.
Starting point is 00:20:18 And that whole time he was really struggling with things. He did a lot of float tank, he had a little journal, he rode in it and you know, LaGuayri is now, he's in a much better place and Joe helped him out and just a testament to how great that guy is and also how good friends they are. But taking that time, listening to your mind, trying to relax, you know, it's good to do. It really is. But a mindfulness, get deep there, get deep. They did a great back and forth with being Devil's advocate and doing drugs in the workplace and testing piss, which is really invasive. America likes to do it and Joe played the devil and Duncan was the employee trying to say, hey, this is why you shouldn't do this. And they were
Starting point is 00:21:04 going back and forth. And it was really pretty interesting. It was quite funny because Joe's point is he's pushing productivity and being on time and working hard and getting things done and paying a mortgage and Duncan's obviously pulling on while you've got to think about work, life balance and taking away stress and enjoying your work. And, you know, there definitely is a balance in there somewhere. I mean, obviously you can't be fucked up or you wouldn't get anything done.
Starting point is 00:21:31 But, you know, what you do when you get home really should be up to you. And within reason, I mean, you can't be heavily addicted to crack and then work in finance or people's money because you're susceptible to getting you know blackmail or God knows what else. I mean you gotta be careful but But it was a great back and forth those two are hilarious and and Joe played a solid You know, he had some great retorts that are that were difficult even for Duncan to hit back on Duncan if you know him as a big video game, they jumped in a playing video games for a while. God of War was one that they talked about and I
Starting point is 00:22:11 guess Joe would never seen this. Duncan likes God of War, that game looks sick. I like to know if anyone has it, if they're playing it right now, I really want to fucking get that game. It looks bad, I don't have a lot of time video games, but the way they were describing it and how it looked, maybe I can make a bit of time. I don't know, I have to see. I have to see. Then they were ending it with how to treat people, which is what Duncan and Joe always get into. Be nice to yourself, be nice to other people. Right? It's easy to say how to do, but it can be done. And imagine what we can do if we all do a little bit of that. I try to, I do, I get pissed off, but I try to be nice, be patient. I'm learning, we're all learning. But one cool thing that Joe says that he does is he drops what he cycles love bombs. So
Starting point is 00:22:59 love bomb is what Joe will do when he's in Duncan was bringing this up. But try not to say that Joe does it, which became apparent. But Joe will drop $100 tip on a coffee at a restaurant. Now, obviously he didn't say that he did it all the time, but he's got the money and he loves to do it. And he likes to just kind of leave before he even gets credit for it. And people go out of their mind when that happens. You know what a fantastic thing to do. I mean you know it definitely cheers them up no end. Maybe for a day, maybe for a week, maybe forever. I mean they're always going to remember that
Starting point is 00:23:39 Joe did that. And just the fact that you could do that to anyone. I'd love to be in a position to do that. I think that that's such a wonderful thing. Any millionaires out there listening to this, tip, tip your fuckers, tip, give back. Really cheer someone up, you know? I think it's probably the best thing to do if you have an shitty day. You could cheer someone up real quick like that.
Starting point is 00:23:59 I mean, it's gonna cheer you up. Come on, do it. Our last podcast of the week, Ted Nugent, 1137, I knew this fucking guy was coming on. Joe had been talking about him way too much, kind of talking about him being a bit of a nut. If you don't know him, and I didn't really know a lot about him, all you hear is he's gone nut,
Starting point is 00:24:18 he might be a racist, and he's a fucking NRA lunatic. You know, when you're hearing him for three hours, listen, he's a rock star and he's been a rock star for fucking 50 years. I mean he's not gonna be a hundred percent normal. I mean he's definitely gonna be a little wacky out there but I mean he wasn't a complete lunatic. He I don't agree with all of his policies but I liked what he had to say and And he put it in a way that, you know, in a lot of it, though he was pretty dismissive of any other way of thinking that his own
Starting point is 00:24:52 and calling the other people lunatics. If he had just changed that to like, people that don't agree with me or people that don't see it my way or the uneducated, you know, but banging on about ignorance and people not having a soul because they didn't think his way was right. It's a bit harsh. But anyway, the guy is rockstar, huge hunter, an avid bow hunter, I believe. He's supposed to be very good. He's hunted with all the best people in the world, hunts year-round, gives a fuck ton meat to charity. And he's a huge advocate for it, for the rights of guns and for the right to hunt. He knows a lot about wildlife reserve stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:35 He's really very switched on. You know, the dude is like 70 and still performing a ton. He didn't sound like an old man on the podcast. I mean, he was hyperactive as fuck. He had some good energy and he's a big dude. He's like, what is it? Two 20, 240, 62, big dude. And really, you know, I got to say, I liked his style. He's quality. Again, it doesn't mean I agree with all of his politics and the things that he's saying. I mean some of it is way out there. But you know, at least he's not a complete moron and saying things I disagree with.
Starting point is 00:26:13 It's nice to hear a different side of things, you know, and to know that it's not total ignorance on that end. Like people are thinking and we can always learn and there's wherever you take your position, like you just take on a little bit more knowledge and you're like, okay, I mean, I think he did it. He's a huge anti-drug guy, right? He kind of wraps them all together, like weed and dope and blah and high and he just says everything like that. Well, Joe jumped on him with that,
Starting point is 00:26:41 and he is like, listen, I smoke weed, I don't think it's bad. I think that it doesn't make people lazy and maybe it's their motivation already. Like maybe they're just lazy people, you know, they wanna have their priorities right. And these drugs get bad names, which again, this is a point that Hamilton would have brought up and said in that way, which is really cool
Starting point is 00:27:03 that all this kinda came together in one week. But it's true. He's just saying that it takes this bad rap, but it's not really hurting people. And if you are lazy while smoking weed, maybe you'd be fucking lazy if you want. It's not the cause of it. It's like it's just part of it. And that's pretty cool. That's really pretty cool. And lastly, one of the best things I thought about Ted Newgins. So he loves guns. He's talking about, if people had had guns,
Starting point is 00:27:33 or been allowed to have guns during a lot of the mass shootings of the last few years, somebody could have stopped them, right? So this is kind of his angle for mass shootings if more people had guns. That's just his side of it. I don't know how I feel about that. But what was cool is he said, well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:27:52 Cops are allowed to carry guns nationwide. So he's been a sheriff since like 1987. This fucking cracks me up. So he's been a sheriff since 1987. And then there's even some international laws that say that like office like sheriffs in the US can carry guns in other countries and he's saying you can carry a gun when he goes to the UK. I don't think he's a liar. After hearing him talk,
Starting point is 00:28:16 yeah, he's manic, yeah, he gets excited, yeah, he's opinionated, but it didn't sound like a liar. So I have to believe that this is true. It's just, you know, it's just my gut feeling, but I have never fucking, I'm English. I've never heard of any American being able to bring a gun to England and carry it. I just couldn't imagine a scenario like that. I mean, maybe Secret Service will guard the President, but fuck, who fucking knows? What a weird guy, a fascinating guy,
Starting point is 00:28:43 and you know, it was good to have him on. What a great way to end such a fucking great week. And I'm trying to keep this under half an hour because our attention spans are only so long and this is believe me not the most important podcast of your week. Please continue to listen to JRE, the Joe Rogan experience. It's so fucking good. Thanks for downloading my review. They're gonna keep coming. I'm gonna have some guests on pretty soon maybe next week.
Starting point is 00:29:10 And get used to it. Thanks boys. Appreciate it. Bye.

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