Jordan, Jesse, GO! - A 420 Celebration, with Mike Glazer and Mary Jane Gibson of "Weed + Grub"

Episode Date: April 20, 2023

It's a Jordan, Jesse, GO! 420 extravaganza. This week we welcome Mike Glazer and Mary Jane Gibson of the Weed+Grub podcast and try some delicious 420 treats while talking about Mary Jane's time as a s...almon fisherwoman and Mike's experience seeing Fred Durst do jazz.Ever tried Microdosing? Visit Microdose.com and use JJGO for 30% off + Free Shipping. Pre-order Jordan's upcoming Archie Horror comic "Camp Pickens" at your local comic shop NOW with code APR231183! On shelves 6/21!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Give a little time for the child within you. Don't be afraid to be young and free. Undo the locks and throw away the keys and take off your shoes and socks and run you. It's Jordan Jesse Goh. I'm Jesse Thorne, the King of Drugs. Jordan Morris, boy detective. Oh, Jordan. We have a very special Jordan Jesse Goh planned. Usually, and we just said this, this just happened before you started listening, listener. We said, Jesse and I said to the guests, we're going to talk a little, and then we're going to introduce you. Fuck it.
Starting point is 00:00:34 It's a special day. Let's introduce the guests. Let's do the thing we're going to do, and then we'll start talking. Our guests on the program are the co-hosts of the Weed and Grub podcasts, Mike Glazer and Mary Jane Gibson. A joy to have the both of you here. Congratulations on your first name, Mary Jane. Mike. Has anybody ever pointed that out?
Starting point is 00:00:58 Are we the first ones? If we don't say something now, it's going to be like the story of the aging diva and the young ingenue and the ingenue is upstaging the diva and the diva says, I can upstage you without even being on stage. Right. And the man inside the room who was dead was Superman. When she exits, she puts half of the wine glass on the table and half off. It's going to be the half on, half off wine glass. We don't acknowledge it. We've acknowledged it.
Starting point is 00:01:34 We can move on. Right. Is it your real name? It is an old family name. I have taken the full spoonful of soup and I have swallowed it. You no longer need to watch me holding a suspended spoonful of soup. Right. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:01:47 I appreciate it. It's a good upstaging move, you know. Right. Why did you bring that gun to the first half of this podcast? Oh, Mr. Chekhov would have something to say about when that gun should go off. By gun, do you mean bong? Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:03 So this is a special holiday edition. Now, we don't traditionally do holiday. No. I mean, granted, on most shows we discuss whether our guests are Halloween dads or not. But other than that and our annual celebration of Anal August, we don't follow the calendar strictly. Fuck it. Fuck those Gregorians. We don't follow the calendar strictly.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Fuck it. Fuck those Gregorians. God, it's so fucking sick. You guys want to say the same thing over and over? Yeah. Anyway. But we realized we had an episode coming out on 420. We've been wanting to have Weed and Grub on the show.
Starting point is 00:02:41 When better. We wanted to make them feel tokenized. Yeah. Get it? Yeah them feel tokenized. Yeah. Get it? Yeah. Oh, token. Oh! Very nice.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Guys, this is going great. But we thought because it's- Great news. We're Tommy Chong now. Yes. Chong, Chong, Chong, Chong, Chong. It's a special day. We have special friends here. We thought we would start the show by sampling an edible provided
Starting point is 00:03:08 by the weed experts at Weed and Grub. Oh yeah, you're experts in both. A grub that contains weed. We will all try and then see how it affects the show moving forward. Will the show be better?
Starting point is 00:03:23 It can't get any worse. That's really what we're relying on here. If you want to fast forward to the first ad, feel free. Yeah. The vibe. Yeah. So, yeah, what did you bring? Well, in honor of the high holiday, we have options.
Starting point is 00:03:42 L'chaim to everyone. We have various doses of various flavors of various things. I think, Mike, you're holding a... Yeah, would you like me to go first? Yeah. So we have some Petra cannabis-infused mints that have two milligrams of THC to one milligram of CBD. Very low dose. Okay. of THC to 1 mg of CBD. Very low dose. We also have some Camino sour candies that are 10 mg each,
Starting point is 00:04:08 which is a higher dose. Sure. 10 is more than 2. You know your shit, man. Yeah, dude. And we also have some Herve cannabis-infused French macarons. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Which are 10 mg of THC each, but you can just have a littleons. Whoa. Hold on. Which are 10 milligrams of THC each, but you can just have a little bite. You can share one. And then also, just because April 19th, the 420 Eve, is Bicycle Day, which celebrates psychedelics, we also have some microdose mushroom capsules for you.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Whoa. Wow. Okay. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Okay, Jesse, where are you leaning? Okay, so I'm going to open by saying- Dude, the shrooms are going to call you a wiener. This is my bully voice. I hold the mic.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I saw that Mike was holding the mints and the gummies, and those are brands with which I am familiar. Sure. Of course, the audience, you guys don't know this, the audience at home knows that I'm the king of drugs. Having occasionally eaten drugs for over three years. And those are the brands with which I'm familiar. When I went to the weed store near my house that our friend Jenny Chardin recommended I go to, they gave me those. I've been a loyal customer ever since. And so like the blue one that Mike is holding, the mint. Yes. This is a more, this one doesn't make you as high. It
Starting point is 00:05:41 makes you a little more sleepier. That one has more CBD-type stuff in it. Yeah, the low dose, a little low-key, very low energy. But I don't think the Camino ones that I have have 10 milligrams of THC. These are like superpower ones. Funny you mentioned that because I didn't read the label, but it says, now with higher dose. Not for wieners. Just for today.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Here's where I'm leaning. Does someone want to split a macaroon with me? How much is in the macaroons? They are 10 milligrams each, and they are delicious. I'll absolutely split a macaroon with you. Let's do it. You have to go for it. They're red, white, and blue.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Of course, these would be the colors of the French flag. Correct. Because they're macarons. Vive la France. What color do you want to go with, Jordan? Let's do the blue. Oh, yeah. That seems like the right choice.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Let's do the bluey. Do y'all have favorite edibles as experts in this stuff? Do you have all-time faves? Please. I mean, we're super fortunate to have a lot of friends who make home infused edibles. And that is my absolute favorite is, you know, like a banana pudding cake that, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:56 just contains a smack you in the face amount of weed to put you on the couch. I love the couch. I love the couch. Yeah, I guess when I'm having this mac... I'm not going to try and say it. I'm going to say macaroon. USA.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Macaroon. This meth-groom is really tasty. The weedness is subtle. I don't know if the goal these days is to hide the weed flavor or if that's, you know, for casuals. But I do like it when an edible hides the weed flavor. And this is doing a great job.
Starting point is 00:07:28 I understand that, Mary Jane, particularly for you as a longtime marijuana journalist, that you may have strong feelings about this. But to me, it tastes like, you know how they call it, grass? That's what it tastes like when you eat it. It's like you're a cow eating grass. Maybe a stinky grass? And so to me, I like the taste of candy more than I like the taste of stinky grass. More than I like the taste of stinky grass. Well, the idea behind it, so we've kind of come full circle in the things tasting like weed experience with edibles that you can buy at the dispensary.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Because for a long time, people, you know, just had the pot brownies and the goo balls that you could get when you were tailgating in a Grateful Dead concert. And that definitely was going to taste like weed or hash. And then this whole new era came where the concentrates were available and you could infuse things with distillate, which actually has no taste. And then you had all the gummies and everything that had really no weed flavor. But then the sort of like craft cannabis revolution happened when legalization took hold. And people were like, you know, I really miss that old school taste. I miss the like full spectrum infusion. And so now when you go to the dispensary, you can actually ask for something that's infused with live rosin, for instance, which will give you that kind of weedy taste. And you know what's nice to me is if you get a really good one, the kind where they're wearing the sleeve garters and everything, you can ask them for something with non-weed and they'll make something really special for you.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Sure, yeah. Like if you're not toking that night, you know. This concept is interesting. Jordan, I just want to interrupt and say, is my mouth as blue as your mouth is? They're so blue. Oh, man. I had some gushers before we came in. It's probably what you're seeing is the gushers.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Lick them sticks could never. Like the amount of blue that your tongue is, your tongue is so intensely, vibrantly blue right now. It's a Cookie Monster vibe. Yeah, sure. It's like Jordan ain't Cookie Monster. Hey, C is for cookie. That's good enough for me, right? Too many mushrooms.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Sure. On that note, would you, so that we're all in the same, want to split a macaron with me and go red tongue? Absolutely. Oh, blues versus red. It's a face-off. Yeah. Are you a bite or are you a snap? Podcast or competitions?
Starting point is 00:09:48 I'm a whatever you want to do and hand me the rest. Okay. I'm so high right now, you guys. I ate that macaron four minutes ago, and I had this dream that I was on a podcast that had no reason to exist. Oh, dude, you were baked. MJ, it was interesting to hear you talk about the, like, the nostalgia for, like, a pre-legalized weed. I feel like I would go to a dispensary
Starting point is 00:10:18 that had a pre-legalized weed, weed aesthetic. Like, I want to go back to the era of Dr. Bong Lode's Blazatorium, where everything has an alien that's wearing a cat in the hat hat. I do, like, growing up, we grew up in the, you know, at the height of that, like 90s weed aesthetic, blacklight poster. And like, I think I found that obnoxious at the time, but now I miss it. I do miss it. That stuff is charming.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Anyway, I just want to like. I'll just, I'll say this. I don't. Come on. You don't want to, you know, a bear giving the peace sign coming out of a VW? I'm from San Francisco and I don't need any more of that in my life forever. Well, there was a weird thing that happened like right around 2013 or 2014 when some of the first days had come sort of online, Colorado and Washington. And the PR firms started arriving on the scene and they were like, we're going to veer away from stoner culture and we're going to get out of this sort of like basement aesthetic and make it available to everyone.
Starting point is 00:11:28 We really want to invite everyone to feel like you can walk into the store and not worry that, you know, something terrible is going to happen to you. But it's the wrong move to veer away from stoner culture. Like stoner culture is why we have this incredible legal market that we have nowadays. is why we have this incredible legal market that we have nowadays. So my favorite thing is when a place manages to strike the balance where they're paying homage to what came before. Like so many of the places in San Francisco, I feel like, are doing a great job of sort of saying, you know, these are our roots, and also we have nice, bright, clean glass display cases
Starting point is 00:12:01 where you can get someone to help you with something. My experience here in Los Angeles is that there are two primary aesthetics. One is what if a pharmacy was also an Apple store? And one is what if Kobe Bryant was best friends with Bob Marley? Could I add something to that? Yeah. And what if everyone who works there doesn't know much? And their names are like Indica.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Sure. I feel like all these places should pay homage to what came before. Like everyone needs at least just like a framed Magic Eye poster. And then do whatever the fuck else you want to,, a framed Magic Eye poster. And then do whatever the fuck else you want to, but put the Magic Eye poster there as a sign of respect. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:12:50 As somebody who agrees with growing up and working at Spencer's Gifts as one of my first summer jobs. Oh, no way! Really? Oh, yeah, and loving Limp Bizkit.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Wow. I just, yeah, I really, I feel for those days. You skipped right past Cypress Hill loving Limp Bizkit. Wow. Yeah, I really feel for those days. You skipped right past Cypress Hill into Limp Bizkit. Yeah, actually, I did. That's so funny. That's for old fogies. They're not breaking anything.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I don't want to break stuff. Were you an insane Clown Posse fan? Loved the ICP. Really? Oh, my gosh. I grew up in St. Louis and had a lot of friends from Detroit. So we used to go to see ICP concerts quite a bit. But there were no Limp Bizkit, as we can all agree. How do you feel about Limp Bizkit now in 2023?
Starting point is 00:13:37 And keep in mind, this is a very judgmental zone. Okay, great. I don't know about them now. But what I do know is I saw Fred Durst do a jazz night somewhere on Hollywood Boulevard. Has anyone here heard of those? I have heard of these. I'm interested to hear about Fred Durst and his jazz night. Mike, can we hear about Fred Durst's jazz night?
Starting point is 00:13:59 Can I ask you a question? Sure, please. If you could tell us about one jazz night. Any one jazz night that you've... Question, Mike, why'd you say that sentence? Oh, it's wargames? Yeah. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:14:16 He loves jazz. Put on a whole night of it. It was pretty wild. Does he play the jazz? He stands up there and snaps, but everyone around him is quite talented. Okay. Yeah. So does he rap?
Starting point is 00:14:32 No, thankfully. I think he has a real actual deep appreciation, like a Goldblum piano evening, but with Fred Durst and jazz. I mean, I could see, if I was going to imagine it inside my head, which I am right now, I would say that I could see him, I would have presumed that it would have been like him, some of the cool L.A. jazz people, Kamasi Washington or whatever, and then like he's a big fan of the Freestyle Fellowship and they're friends with Kamasi Washington and that's how it all. Because like remember when the guy from Lincoln Park, the guy from Lincoln Park, the rapper from Lincoln Park made a whole rap album and it was all just like him and DJ Premier and Black Thought. Yes, I think it was Shinobi.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Yeah. Shinobi. That's his name. Mike Shinoda. Yes. Does that sound right? That does sound right. Shinoda?
Starting point is 00:15:31 Yeah, I think so. I remember listening to it and being like, well, this is like when Shaq did this. Shaq also. I don't think his ever came out. But like there's like Shaq singles around with him in Common and Black Thought on them. But like that's what I would imagine you would get from Fred Durst but is this more like when the guy who created the family guy sings big band this is a judgmental though that's fantastic um I'm not familiar with the jazz artists you just mentioned, but they sound talented based on them being known. LA has a scene of pretty famous, right now, a pretty internationally famous jazz scene.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Wow, I had no clue. Of cool jazz people who are cool. I wonder if he inserted himself into the cool jazz scene. Because I know nothing about jazz. I truly want, because I heard the sentence, Fred Durst jazzed. Right, sure. Anyone would, Mikey the sentence Fred Durst jazz night. Anyone would, Mike. Anyone would.
Starting point is 00:16:28 I might leave. I don't know if it started yet, but I might leave here in hopes that I could catch it. Yeah, it was wild. I don't know anything about jazz, but I do know whatever they were doing up there sounded impressive. Honestly, can I say this? I would leave Jeff Goldblum's Jazz Nightmare if I heard about it. Goldblum's running long. The people in the crowd, did it seem like it was Limp Bizkit fans or did it seem like jazz bows? The jazz bows were all sitting in the front. Okay. And all of us limp heads Limp heads? Limp dicks.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Limp dicks. We're in the back trying to be cool and act like we were there for jazz. Yeah. Fred who? You said? Right. Oh, he must Oh, he's in those long khaki shorts. Okay. You weren't just like in the back throwing eggs at Tila
Starting point is 00:17:21 Tequila or whatever. Poor Tila. I know. Madden those jazz bugs. They're so mad. She just wants to play the goddamn vibraphone. Sure. Is she bad now?
Starting point is 00:17:33 Anyway, she might be. I think she was always bad, yeah. Hard to say. Right? Anyway. I don't know for sure. Yeah. So, yeah, if we can all go sometime to see Fred Durst, it would be great.
Starting point is 00:17:43 When you say Mike, does he literally just stand up there with the musicians and just kind of hang out and snap? Yes, like an emcee. He doesn't pick up an instrument. I expected him to start scatting or play a couple of Olympus, get hits, but with a jazz bend to it. None of it. That's what I would expect. Yeah, I would expect, yeah, break stuff but sure razzle dazzle and uh instead he just went up there and he's like give it up and then he'd let some uh saxophone player just go off on a solo and then everyone
Starting point is 00:18:14 would chime right in with their drums and so on it was pretty okay important question and i don't know which way i'm predicting on the answer to this question, but are these like super talented 24-year-olds that just got out of the Berklee School of Music, or are these like 78-year-old legends? Legend I do not know, but 78, yes. Oh, wow. Yes. That's truly amazing.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Yeah. And because- And this was at a Buffalo Wild Wings? Like, where does this, where do you go? Israel Adesanya was playing in the background on mute. It was a great UFC fight. No, afterwards, because I was pretty high and pretty drunk on whiskey by then, my friend Brian and I tried to sneak backstage to meet them,
Starting point is 00:19:02 and security blocked us, and Fred Durst dove out the back door and into a waiting car and sped away. It was very ominous and very interesting. I have a follow-up question about Fred Durst and I ask you this primarily because you're obviously a top expert in the field.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Does he still direct movies or something? He did? Yeah, I think he was directing films at one point. I don't have a, I don't, I don't, I don't know the man's IMDB, but yeah, that is a Fred Durst fact you will hear is that like he'll, someone will name three movies that you've kind of heard of and then blow your mind by saying they were directed by like Fred Durst. So yeah, like Remember the Titans or something like that. A movie you've heard of but maybe not seen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:49 The one where Ashton Kutcher takes a pill that makes him super smart. Sure. Is that a movie? Oh, gosh. That's Limitless. You're thinking of Limitless, and I believe that is Bradley Cooper.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Bradley Cooper. It's Bradley Cooper. Great movie. So good. I remember one thing about that movie in that the drug is in his blood, and he bleeds on the carpet and then needs the drug so he sucks the blood off the carpet. Anyway. Wow.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Fred Durst directed that. He didn't. That was his idea. Bradley, why don't you suck on the carpet for a little bit? I just want to get a quick shot. I MDB'd it. It's directed by Mike Shinoda. Oh.
Starting point is 00:20:23 With the RZA. Co-directed by the RZA. Mm. Directed by the RZA. Holy cow. MJ, I wanted to ask you about an Instagram project you have, which is making a sandwich while talking about something controversial. But then, can you explain this project and what you get the most shit for? Yes, absolutely. I have an Instagram called. Well, the handle is it's the mayo for me. I really wanted to get make me a sandwich is the handle.
Starting point is 00:20:56 But evidently that is a flagged term. It's a hate speech. Make me a sandwich. I didn't know this. It all came from I wrote an article like an op ed about sexism in the cannabis industry that was published on High Times. And then they posted an Instagram post about it. And the comments about sexism in the cannabis industry were all like, it's a myth. Shut up, you dumb bitch and make me a sandwich. And I was like, what? I had no idea that this was an insult that was bandied about to banish women to the kitchen and, you know, that it was an Internet meme and all this kind of stuff. Shouldn't sandwiches be something that can bring us together? I don't like the idea of them.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Just as they bring together our grains, meats and veg. The perfect food. It was so crazy to me. So I sort of started interacting with some of the commenters and I was like, oh my God, dude, I'm so sorry you don't know how to make a sandwich. That is nuts. And then, of course, that just set them off.
Starting point is 00:21:54 I want you to, I can, I shouldn't have to make it. You should make, but I could. Yeah, your dumb job. I can buy the sandwich. Make a sandwich. Oh, sorry, say that again. I'm. Yeah. Your dumb job. I can buy the sandwich. Make a sandwich. She's like, oh, sorry. Say that again. I'm Blaze.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Your vagina makes sandwiches. Wait, what? And then I was like. Oh, sick burn. So I was like, I didn't know sandwich impotence was a thing. I'm so sorry. Let me start up my whole thing and make sandwiches and talk about sexism and misogyny. And it's been a blast because the bros, the algo is driving the bros to me and the bros are losing their shit.
Starting point is 00:22:30 I get the impression from enjoying these stories, which I do. Thank you. That there are people getting mad about the political content, but then people getting mad that you're making the sandwich wrong. Yes. People are very upset about the sandwich. People who are anti, you know, stone ground mustard or something. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Yeah. One of the most controversial sandwiches was an open faced sandwich, which I made in honor of Seth Rogen saying that he and his wife had chosen not to have children and how great that was, that it was a choice that you're able to make, of course, in the face of everything that's going on right now. how great that was that it was a choice that you're able to make, of course, in the face of everything that's going on right now. And I made a delicious sandwich on country bread with ricotta and baby lettuces and some prosciutto and put it on an open-faced sandwich in honor of open hearts and open minds. That's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:23:17 It's a really beautiful, really beautiful image. I try to reflect the message in the sandwich. Sure. The sandwich is the message. Yes. It's a little cheesy but appropriately so. I try to be a little bit cheesy because that seems to be what works. Sure. It's a nice
Starting point is 00:23:32 fat to add to the sandwich. You get a little dairy fat in there. It's good. Yeah. I made a steak Trump. I made a steak sandwich about pussy grabbing. I try and sort of do that. I made a Marvel sandwich today and someone was really mad that I didn't actually use brie. Well, it's right there.
Starting point is 00:23:52 That's actually a strike. It was, yeah. That's a tough one. I missed on that one. Sure. I whiffed. But, yeah, evidently an open-faced sandwich was just, you know, too much for some people. They couldn't take it.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Was it that they felt it was not really a sandwich because it was not closed? That's right. It was not a sandwich. I can understand that feeling. I was like, what about all the other stuff? They're like, well, is toast a sandwich? Also, misogyny is a myth. They were like, what do you call avocado toast?
Starting point is 00:24:19 And I said, delicious. Yeah, avocado toast is nice. Good work, millennials. I do like brie on a sandwich. I like it in place of a condiment. You kind of spread it on there. Anyway. It's great with a turkey sandwich, a little cranberry relish. Delish.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Can I ask you a question? This is important to me. Do you make, to me, I was on the website Reddit.com recently, and there was some people complaining about people who go out to eat and buy a sandwich. Okay. And the reason was, why would you buy a sandwich? You can make that at home. And to me, I am not someone who'd make sandwiches at home, but I would buy a sandwich out. make sandwiches at home, but I would buy a sandwich out. And the reason is that I feel like I have to have such a high rotation of sandwich ingredients at my house to keep quality fresh
Starting point is 00:25:14 sandwich. Like I would have to be eating a sandwich or two a day to feel like I was eating all the bread, having enough different stuff, always having fresh lettuce and tomatoes around like all those different things like even as a person who cooks to me a sandwich is a top thing to go out for because they're going to have that day's bread right there they're going to have all the different
Starting point is 00:25:38 crap and it's all going to be available to them I freeze my bread I keep I'm my bread. Okay. I keep – Your bread freezer. I'm a bread freezer. I keep a lot of stuff frozen. I learned a lot from living on a boat for a long time.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Sure. I think we all learned a lot. We can move on. We all lived on a boat for a few years in college. Am I right? Yeah. We were all curious about boat life. Yeah. It teaches you things. Oh, wait. I had one more joke. Test the waters. You got to test the life. Yeah, it teaches you things.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Oh, wait, I had one more joke. Test the waters. You got to test the waters. Yeah, you got to test the waters. I appreciate that, Mike. Yeah, all right. Where did you live on a boat? Where was the boat?
Starting point is 00:26:15 I mean, in the sea. The boat was in the sea, right? Yeah, the boat was in the ocean. In Alaska, I worked on a salmon boat for four seasons. Wait, you actually did that thing that everyone in high school is claiming that they're going to do instead of going to college? I did. Holy mackerel. I mean, we do know.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Holy salmon, I guess. Before Jesse said that, Mike pointed at him. He's like, go, you go, you go. Was it like between high school and college? No, it was after I graduated from theater school. And then I'd lived abroad for a while. And I had my heart terribly broken, crushed. And my sister is a salmon or a fisheries biologist.
Starting point is 00:26:55 And she was like. Your sister is a salmon. Come upstream with me. My dad was a salmon too. Sure. My grandmother was a shrimp. My salmon sister said, best thing for a broken heart is to go to sea. And she got me a job with her friends who were commercial fisher folk. And they took me to sea. And I came back with $10,000 in my bank account and a fully healed
Starting point is 00:27:17 heart. And I did it for four years. See, my friend, I was just in New Orleans at my friend Pete's wedding. And Pete has always had a kind of high plains drifter lifestyle. And he always would claim that he was going to do that. The reason was that you come home with $10,000. Now, he did have a period where he was a literal hobo. So he did ride the rails for a while, which you really can do as long as you don't mind that you're likely to be killed by a train. However, he never did make it onto the boat. And I'm astonished. I can't think of a bigger claim that people who are recently out of college make, or people who are deciding, who are taking a year off from college
Starting point is 00:28:05 that last indefinitely, that has never been delivered upon that you have delivered upon so hard. This having gone on. So you did four seasons? Four seasons. How long is a season? Three months?
Starting point is 00:28:21 Yep. June through September. Holy moly. I had big muscles. I got a cool muscle from cutting up so much fish that, you know, when you play bass professionally and you get that weird big fat muscle from your bass hand being so dexterous. Oh, I know. We've all lived on a boat. I mean, Fred Durst knows.
Starting point is 00:28:41 And we were all in Earth, Wind & Fire for a brief period. No, for real, I'm glad I got the Fred Durst thing out early. Hard to follow this if I had brought it out afterwards. And you're like, hold on, I've seen Fred Durst's jazz night. You had the adventure of a lifetime. How do you feel about fish now? Do you eat more fish? Are you grossed out by them?
Starting point is 00:29:02 How does this change your relationship to fish? I love eating fresh salmon whenever I can get it. I don't order it in restaurants very often. I don't eat farmed salmon, but wild salmon whenever I can get it is one of my favorite things to eat for sure. You want to be able to work that muscle and get the old slice of Rooney yourself. I do. What is it like to fillet a fish on a boat that's moving? I've only ever filleted a fish at McDonald's.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Also delicious. Once a year treat for me. That was an O fish though, right? Yeah. Okay. Just to clarify. What is it like to cut a fish when you're underway? We generally don't cut anything when you're underway.
Starting point is 00:29:43 You keep your knives stowed when the boat's moving. I forgot. I just forgot. You gotta stow those knives. So you don't eat the fishes on the... The boat is out to sea the whole three months, right? That's part of the thing? Yeah, so the fishing fleet is out
Starting point is 00:29:59 fishing the whole time, and the boat that I worked on was salmon tender, so we would go into the cannery, we would pick up fresh ice. We would go out to the fleet. We would give them fresh ice. We would buy their fish from them. We would pack the fish in these big totes, weigh it, write them fish tickets, cut them a check, and then go back in. So we were the tender, the go-between. Fish tickets. God, I know. I was completely fixated on the phrase fish tickets. A hundred thousand percent. That's an ASMR equality, doesn't it? Fish tickets.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Fish tickets. On our podcast, Mary Jane gets DMs like, will you say this string of words together in a sentence on the podcast? Fish tickets. What? Strings of words? Mary Jane, will you say my voice is my password? Verify me. Wait, what strings of words?
Starting point is 00:30:52 If this is an unpleasant topic, we can move on. But what strings of words do people want to hear? Condiments. Ah, sure, sure. You know. People who know you from your sandwich work. People who want to hear food words, I guess, when they're high and they just want to think about snacks. Yep, there it is.
Starting point is 00:31:10 She's selling it right now. Whole grain mustard. So you guys want to like take a minute, think about some snacks, and then come back for some more? We'll be back in just a second on Jordan, Jesse Goh. It's Jordan, Jesse Goh. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy. Detective.
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Starting point is 00:32:54 Microdose is available nationwide. To learn more about microdosing THC, go to Microdose.com. Use code JJGO to get free shipping and 30% off your first order. Links can be found in the show description. But again, that's microdose.com. Code JJGO. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan, Jesse, go. It's Jordan, Jesse, go. I'm Jesse Thorne, the king of, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, Chicken salmon slayer, let me in there. So Mary Jane, would you go back and forth? I love that.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Would you go back and forth? Would your boat go back and forth from the boats that were fishing? Or what were you in between? What were we in between? We were in between the dock and the boat once. I was in between the dock and the boat when I went overboard. That was a bad move on my part. Seems like the worst place to go.
Starting point is 00:34:10 It was the worst place to go. I could have been popped like a grape. I guess maybe in between a shark and a shark would be bad. That wouldn't be great. Yeah. Or, yeah, for sure. I definitely was lucky enough to get hauled out like just a sea lion, you know, into a skiff and saved. Just the same way you would haul out a sea lion into a skiff and saved. Just the same way you would haul out a sea lion. Let's say you were in a skiff and you saw a sea lion.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Haul him out. Put her in the skiff. Put her in the skiff. I enjoyed my macaroon. I'm not feeling super stony, and while we were taking the break, my instinct was like, eh, I'll have another half.
Starting point is 00:34:46 No, don't do that. That's always when shit gets fucked up. That's the mistake. That's the classic error. Yeah. Land, war, and Asia. Have the second half because you're not feeling stoned yet. Sure, yeah. Low and slow. Wait, what movie is that from that's going to drive me crazy?
Starting point is 00:35:01 Princess Bride. Yes, thank you very much. Thank you. Mike, you just worked at the Spencer's Gifts. And Danimo's Pizza in St. Louis. Now, what happened when you went overboard at Spencer's? They tied a bunch of slippers together and pulled me out. It was really nice of them to do. Oh, and two t-shirts that said corn on them.
Starting point is 00:35:24 That was pretty sweet. Oh, and two t-shirts that said Korn on them. That's pretty sweet. Oh, that's an important question, Mike. As a former Limp Bizkit partisan, how do you feel about Korn? Loved them before Limp Bizkit. You have me on my heels because I'm trying to rack my brain about one of the first concerts I went to, and it was Limp Bizkit, Korn, Rammstein, if anyone here remembers. Sure.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Do Hust. Yeah. And he, they had flamethrowers, and he pulled out a dildo and sprayed the crowd as the final song came to an end. What with? Great question. What with did he spray? Great.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Rammstein was performing their noteworthy concerto. Fourth from his dildo. What came? What with? Well, it was Simon. Check off his dildo. Sure, yeah. It's got to go off by the encore.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Oh, but what was the name of that concert? It was all the greatest mosh pit bands of the time. Was this an Oz Fest? Oh, it was like close to an Oz Fest, but no, but yes, that kind of a vibe. I used to love moshing a lot. Sure. A lot. A lot of stitches in Slipknot mosh pits, a lot of things like that.
Starting point is 00:36:42 And then, you know, you eventually stopped. I remember this might have been when, Jordan, this might have been when we were RAs together. I remember watching the MTV Video Music Awards one year. And Slipknot came in the most elaborate outfits. And I just found it immensely charming. Like it involved white tuxedos, but also splashes of blood and some other things. Yes. I don't know much about this world of music, but I get the impression that like of that era,
Starting point is 00:37:19 Slipknot are kind of the like respectable ones who kind of like made it out. And you're like, yeah, they were doing good work. Let me ask you this. Is it possible? And we'll turn to Mike for this. I mean, he's more of a jazz guy. Sure. Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Is it possible that we think that simply because we've talked to Brian Stack about the Slip Nuts? Oh, sure. Yeah. And the time that the Slip Nuts opened for Slip Knot. That could be. That could be. That could be coloring my feelings. I think Brian told me that he was legitimately worried about his own safety. Sure, I would be.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Because people were so angry at them for opening for Slipknot. I could only imagine the amount of full beers being thrown on stage. This was a anti-comedy bit that happened on Conan where four of the Conan writers put on little bow ties and were these slip nuts and they slipped on a handful of nuts. They sang a song that said we're the slip nuts,
Starting point is 00:38:14 we're slipping on nuts. Oops, I fell down, I slipped on some nuts. And then Slipknot liked that so asked them to open and it didn't go well. No, it was really intense and scary. It's the Cliff's Notes version of that story. If you can imagine, Mary Jane, you love Slipknot liked that, so asked them to open and it didn't go well. It was really intense and scary.
Starting point is 00:38:26 If you can imagine, Mary Jane, you love Slipknot and the lights go black on the stage. And then four doofuses from Conan dressed in barbershop quartet outfits strewing nuts on the floor come out.
Starting point is 00:38:42 It's not even the masturbating bear they could get behind. Sure. Shooverine. Well, I'm sure this is going to go great. I have a little act. It's called Momstein. What I do is I dress up like a German mommy and I spray
Starting point is 00:38:57 everyone with cum. Why don't you get married and give me a grandchild? You're looking so skinny. Eat this cum. Momstein. You're looking so skinny. Eat this gum. Mom's time. Just nachos being thrown at you. Yay. Was this your great musical passion, Mike?
Starting point is 00:39:13 They were. I loved hard, fast. And then it turns out that I know nothing about music or how to play music, but everyone says like, oh, Slipknot is actually like very talented musicians. And their drummer, Jordy, who I think passed away, so RIP to him,
Starting point is 00:39:30 but like was one of the greatest drummers of all time technically. So it turns out like a lot of these people that I just like to bump bodies to actually were very talented musicians. What was really incredible I heard about Jordy is that even though he was blind, he used that device for extraordinary sensory perception thinking
Starting point is 00:39:50 of Sequest the dog from Sequest macarons rock and we'll agree. Mike, at what point in your life did you give up getting Stitch's body slamming into people? I'm trying to think of, oh, you know what happened? I'm so ashamed to say it. I started smoking opium and I started falling in love with Dave Matthews' band. I turned into a Dave Matthews guy. Look, again, this is a tale as old as time. You don't
Starting point is 00:40:28 have to explain to us about living on a boat or smoking opium if you're in love with Dave Matthews. Yeah, that's what happened. Red opium and black opium, because the beauty of opium is when you're done with all of your weed and all of your keef, you can roll the sticky opium in your grinder, pick up the rest of that keef from the weed, and then smoke that.
Starting point is 00:40:50 That is beautiful. Isn't that gorgeous? Right when the violin solo hits. Whoa. Hey, if you're out there and you discovered the joys of Dave Smith, he's bad while on opium. Give us a call. 206-984-4455. It's a momentous occasion.
Starting point is 00:41:10 People call and we listen to them. Let's hear a momentous occasion now. Hi, this is Harrison from Hot Diggas, Colorado, calling in with a momentous occasion. I just saw a teen walking around in a Run DMC hooded sweatshirt carrying a sword by his side. Anyways, bye. Yeah, that was Mike when he was working at Spencer's Kids. Was he also wearing an eye patch? Yeah, holding a lava lamp, right?
Starting point is 00:41:41 It's nice to know that teens can still get into swords. Yeah, and Run DMC t-shirts. There you go. It's a classic t-shirt. Do you think it's one of those things where just like it's the t-shirt design got popular and maybe the kids don't know what it is? Oh, yeah. No, they don't give a shit about Run. I mean, Run DMC for that kind of thing holds up relatively well.
Starting point is 00:42:00 I mean, the Beastie Boys proves going ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba can be pretty fun. But, no, I don't think that they listened to Run-D.M.C. I went to a Run-D.M.C. concert when I was a teen. Me and Pete did. And my mom. Did you get swords? Me and Pete and my mom. No, but I took my shoe off and had Run-D.M.C. sign it
Starting point is 00:42:22 because I was wearing Adidas's. Whoa, the shell toes. Yeah, I was wearing Adidas's. Whoa, the shell toes. Yeah, I was wearing shells. Took them off. Got that in my mom's basement somewhere, my Run DMC signed shoe. Oh, yeah? Mom still got them? It was an amazing show because it was in Berkeley.
Starting point is 00:42:39 And it was Run DMC were like the headliners. And obviously many, many mega hits Run-D.M.C. Sugar Hill Gang was on and they were just like, they seemed like just like genial guys that worked at the rec center, which I think is pretty much what they were. Like Run DMC, not musicians, just some guys who the record label owner's kid knew. Like the record label owner, legendary music person, and she was like, do you know anybody that could come and do that rap for us? And he's like, it's like a guy from the pizza place.
Starting point is 00:43:24 So yeah, Sugar Hill Gang, total zero. The real revelation of that show was Houdini. The, you know, the hit makers behind Friends and the Freaks come out at night. And when Houdini hit the stage in their leather hats and leather outfits,
Starting point is 00:43:44 I have not, having been to an Al Green concert, having been to a D'Angelo concert when D'Angelo was cut, having been to an Usher concert, I have never seen women lose their shit like when Houdini hit the stage. like houdini came out and these aunties were fucking like tearing their clothes off like throwing chocolate roses at the stage crying i had no idea that was part of houdini's deal none of that for run dmc much more successful musical artists it was a fucking wild ass scene. The panties came off. The panties on the aunties.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Wait, so we're kind of going around talking about our musical interest from high school. Mary Jane, what was yours? I hung out with all the guys who worked at the music store at Fred's Records and they would come and pick me up and we would drive around and hotbox their car
Starting point is 00:44:45 and they would introduce me to whatever was out that week and it was an education. Like that was how I heard the last Temptation of Christ soundtrack the first time was like... Again, you don't have to explain. We all got fucked up in the mosh pit. Hotboxing, listening to Temptation
Starting point is 00:45:01 of Christ. The last Temptation of Christ soundtrack. Stoned out of my gore driving through weird back roads and listening to that was crazy. But then. Some people call me pretentious. I was into the penultimate Temptation of Christ. Like the early stuff. And then just like grunge. You know, I really loved all the grunge.
Starting point is 00:45:22 That was my thing when I was a teenager. Yeah, grunge is pretty neat. Yeah really loved all the grunge. That was my thing when I was a teenager. Yeah, I think grunge is pretty neat. Yeah, it was good. It was real good. I loved Nirvana and, you know, and then I moved to Seattle and, you know, kind of got real into it for a while. I am listening to, on audiobook, the Chuck Klosterman book about the 90s. And, you know, you think of Nirvana as like that is the album of the 90s like that.
Starting point is 00:45:46 You know, it defined the decade. It's you know, it it changed culture. But like that album sold 10 million copies. The first Hootie and the Blowfish album sold 21 million copies. Like Hootie and the Blowfish and like, oh, gosh, Faith Hill are so much like more a 90s thing than Nirvana is. Anyway, is that interesting? It's wild. I'm very surprised by that.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Yeah. I'm not surprised by it at all. I remember. We were all crazy for cracked rear view. Sure, yeah. I was going to say on the sword tip though, all the guys I knew who had swords in high school, which was many of them, also all had waterbeds. That seemed like a Venn diagram. Sure.
Starting point is 00:46:28 It was like if you had a sword, you also had a waterbed. Yeah, they like to tempt fate. They're like, this could go so wrong. Yeah, they like to sort of seem edgy. When I'm sleeping with my sword. Dangling above my waterbed. Sure, yeah. What weapons do you sleep with, Jordan?
Starting point is 00:46:44 Just fist one and fist two. You better stay out of there. That's right. Don't get in bed. You're going to meet fist two. Oh, that's the warning shot? Well, fist one's a real sweetie. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Oh, so fist one is sort of like a gentle kiss. Oh, yeah. It's a good cop, bad cop situation. Oh, all right. But with living fists. So Fist One maybe brings you a snack. Yeah. Like something from the vending machine.
Starting point is 00:47:14 And then Fist Two tells you that your friend just sold you out, so you better sell him out. Mm-hmm. You know. I will read this comic book, Living Fists. Mm-hmm. It sounds tremendous. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:24 And I could see both of your fists being animated on the cover, one being a sweetie and one being pretty badass. Jordan, I'm already booking tickets to the next Eisner Awards. Right, yes. I wrote your coattails to that other one. Get a seat now. This time we're closing the deal. That's right.
Starting point is 00:47:41 We're not going home with a nomination this time, not with Living Fists. No, living fists. Hear that, Mark Russell? Famous satirical comic writer who beat us? Oh, boo. I don't know who that is. Boo.
Starting point is 00:47:51 He's great. He does a good job. Yeah, I mean, congrats, but... And has the same name as the PBS star. Yeah, hear that, Mark Russell? The recently deceased piano humorist?
Starting point is 00:48:01 Hear us in hell. God, I'd feel so bad if Mark Russell's like cool grandkids listened to George S.K. We're sorry. Sorry about Pop Pop. I did laugh at that as a kid. We hope he's not in hell. I didn't know. It was one of those things where when Mark Russell came on, it was the thing as a kid where I could tell it was a joke.
Starting point is 00:48:23 I didn't understand it, but I liked it and wanted to laugh at it. Well, you laughed at anything Paul Tsongas. Sure, yeah. Anything about the Massachusetts senator. This is so over my head, it's fantastic. I'm learning words, I'm learning names. I have to insert here that I'm Canadian. I have no idea what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Oh, you would know Paul Tsongas as Jean Chrétien. Okay, great. What if someone on PBS did song parodies about Jean Cretier? Oh, this would be on Canadian public broadcasting. You don't have PBS there. Sure. The CBC. Yeah, the CBC.
Starting point is 00:49:00 What does the C stand for? Corporation. Okay, thank you. Cool people. Jordan, did you have a high school job? Yeah, I had a couple of high school jobs. I worked at a toy store called The Play Company. Oh.
Starting point is 00:49:19 And I really liked that job because I got to like, they let me work the video game counter occasionally so I could kind of like, I loved guiding a grandparent to the right video game. Sure. Echo to the Dolphin. And so yeah, I had that. I worked at Nordstrom for a summer.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Does your grandchild like things that are metaphysical? Sure. Yeah. Do they, you want something that's so hard they'll quit? Does your grandchild like things that are metaphysical? Sure would ask. Yeah. Do they, you want something that's so hard they'll quit playing it because the rules aren't clear. Yeah, I worked at Nordstrom and then, yeah, those were my two high school jobs. You worked at Nordstrom in high school? I did, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:01 That's a good get. What was your job at Nordstrom? Oh, kids wear boys. Oh. So I sold a lot of tiny cargo shorts and little Tony Hawk shirts. So they figured you were old enough, because you were 10 years out of the kids wear boys section at that point. Well, six or seven. I had a narrow waist, so I could still wear a little elastic cargo short. But yeah, those were my high school jobs.
Starting point is 00:50:26 That's lovely. Did you, during your time at the video game place, did you have to explain new systems that were coming out all of the time as well? Or at the toy store video game section? Yeah, let's see.
Starting point is 00:50:41 What new systems? Maybe I was there right when the PlayStation came out. So Tony Hawk was massive at that time. This was maybe Tony Hawk. Yeah, maybe not quite. I think that came out when we were in college, right? Tony Hawk's Pro Skater? Yeah, I think we might have been like 18 when that came out, 19.
Starting point is 00:51:01 So yeah, I wasn't. They had to take it away from me. Really? Yeah, I had a problem. First addiction. Here, yeah. I wasn't, they had to take it away from me. Really? Yeah, it was my first addiction. Here, take this opium. Dear God, this is too much. A hundred percent. Man, a Toy Story set is so fun.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Do you still like the soundtracks, the Tony Hawk soundtracks? Oh, yeah. That's where I learned about that song, Ace of Spades. Oh, yeah, sure. Which I think is like a great bar song. If you have a jukebox nearby, you can nail it. You can't do too much better than Ace of Spades. When I interviewed Lemmy for my show, it was at South by Southwest,
Starting point is 00:51:35 and they said, we will allow you to interview him as early as we are able to, which was 2 p.m., and he just wandered in out of bed and just they just handed him a bottle of whiskey. Wow. Just handed him. Just put it down in front of him, the bottle. And then he was just lemmy. It was fucking wild. It was bananas.
Starting point is 00:52:01 I mean, obviously, like culturally, no super deep connection with him other than that he was so obviously him and that they just handed him booze as soon as he wandered out of his hotel room. So he could function. Yeah, exactly. The only time I ever saw Motorhead was at Bumbershoot in Seattle at about 2 p.m. on a Saturday afternoon. They were on a double bill with Band of Horses, right? It was just like little- The no one's happy tour. Little kids twirling and blowing bubbles in the front row.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Sure. Yeah, boy, they didn't stay on stage very long. It was not great. Wow. I feel like I need to, I want to explain myself. Can I explain myself? Let me explain myself. Can I interject here for need to, I want to explain myself. Can I explain myself? Let me explain myself. Can I interject here for a second, Jordan?
Starting point is 00:52:48 Yes. Do you mind if I take this opportunity to ask you if you would to explain yourself? I would love to explain myself. It's all I want. It's what I want most in the world. When we were organizing this, when we were saying like, hey, we got this 420 show, we wanted to have Weed and Grub on, why don't we get him for the 420 show? I also suggested, saying, like, hey, we got this 420 show. We want to have Weed and Grub on. Why don't we get him for the 420 show?
Starting point is 00:53:06 I also suggested, like, hey, Matt, producer, email him and tell him we want to, like, try an edible on the show. Yeah. I realize that it's kind of fucked up to say, hey, come on our show and then also bring something for us. Bring us a little treat. But if I remember the live show I did with y'all at SF Sketch Fest you guys get a shit ton of freebies right? I hope these are
Starting point is 00:53:28 from the freebie pile. Are they? The macarons were actually a birthday gift that I decided to share with you all because it was
Starting point is 00:53:36 such a special treat you know so we brought our best. But yeah we do have piles and piles and piles of weed. But I didn't want
Starting point is 00:53:44 to say anything when you re-gifted my gift to you to the entire place. But, you know, I'm so happy that you loved it. I got a container of promotional marijuana in the mail recently from a podcast that was pitching itself for Max Fun, Rival Marijuana Podcast. Oh, dear. And we won't say their name. The one Obama does will spring. And I don't smoke marijuana. And so I gave it to our friend Ben Harrison for helping me move an exercise bike.
Starting point is 00:54:18 That's really nice. Yeah. Maybe that's the beauty of 420 as a holiday. Just like giving and sharing and hanging, right? I think that's what it is. Yeah, and moving exercise equipment. Yes. The only way to do that is very high.
Starting point is 00:54:32 The gift of spin. Sure. The best. How long did it take to get all the clothes off of the exercise bike before? Hey, give me the chocolate and nobody gets hurt, I said. You guys want to clean off our exercise bikes and then come back and wrap it up? We'll be back in just a second, I'm Jordan Jessica. Since we reached our highest milestone during the MaxFunDrive,
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Starting point is 00:56:26 That's Fanti, F-A-N-T-I. It's Jordan, Jesse Goh. I'm Jesse Thorne, the King of Drugs. Jordan Morris, Boy Detective. Mike Glazer, the biggest slipknot. Mary Jane Gibson, the cookie high. Are you guys experiencing cookie highness? Gibson, the cookie high. Are you guys experiencing cookie highness?
Starting point is 00:56:48 Yes. I'm high. Yeah, I can feel it under my skin and in my face. We should explain that you rolled the cookie up in red and blue opium. And then put it through your grinder. So that's probably what you're Roll the cookie up in red and blue. Opium, yes. Opium, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:06 100%. And then put it through your grinder. So that's probably what you're experiencing. Yeah. Why did you all pass? That was such an interesting choice, what I offered. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:57:16 But at the end of the day, it's not green opium. I'm out. Only the best for me. Yeah, I'm not really feeling it, but I am going to shut down and watch an episode of Bob's Burgers on my phone. Is that okay with you guys? I can always tell when my eyes get smaller. My eyes get tiny and my smile gets bigger. It was a nice macaron.
Starting point is 00:57:41 It was a nice macaron. Yeah. Anyway. Do you remember that D.C. Pearson tweet to goji goji macarons? I do. Jesus Christ. Let's all remember tweets anyway. Let's all go around and say our favorite tweets.
Starting point is 00:57:56 I just want to say now that Twitter's over, that was the best tweet ever. Sure. It wins. Weed and Grub is such a good podcast. I've been on it a couple of times. I've had a blast both of the times. We did a live show at Sketch Fest and someone proposed like during the Q&A, like a fan jumped on stage and proposed. To a sandwich? Basically. basically yeah a living sandwich have you checked up on that relationship have they tied the knot
Starting point is 00:58:28 is it one of these five year engagements one I would just like to say that truly happened it was real it really happened yeah
Starting point is 00:58:36 we all lost our minds and afterwards they've been jet setting excuse me all over Europe together so they're staying in hostels and they're seeing the world together while engaged. Really beautiful.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Yeah. That was a wild, wild moment. Yeah, I don't even know how to describe it. Because she just came on stage and grabbed the microphone and turned around and got on one knee. It was very cool. That is unbelievable. And I think the part that is most incredible to me about this is the idea of proposing. Not just
Starting point is 00:59:07 at a matinee. You know what I mean? Like, not even. Yeah. Because you're going to spend the rest of the night getting it on. Holy cow. Is that what I'm supposed to do? Yeah. I've been married for... wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Dude, you got to get it on. You propose at 420. Yeah. Then you eat. Can I ask you guys, I don't know if you guys are married, but should I be getting it on? I don't know, man. I'm not the boss of you, but I think you should be getting it all. I got to send my wife a quick text.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Honey, I love you. Should we get it all? How do you get that across in text, I wonder? How do you get that? I use the button that, you know how when you're trying to send your text, you always hit that button that makes the little wave things go up and down? Yeah. That's how I did it.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Oh, okay. Yeah. Wow. So it really says, get it on. Yeah, exactly. Okay. And you drew a picture of a waveform with your finger to illustrate that for the home listener. Yes, because I panicked with me joining in on the bit vocally,
Starting point is 01:00:24 so I wanted to add something to it because I was very scared to join in. You know what? A few times I've emailed Mary Jane asking her to sing. It also clarified it for me because I didn't know what was going on. Okay. Well, what happens is once you get married,
Starting point is 01:00:40 two people love each other a lot. Listen, they both enjoy this. They both enjoy the same weed podcast. It was crazy. It was also wild because then you had to do a second podcast after our podcast. Yeah, so we did our Jordan Jesse Go episode. But yeah, I was still a little bit stoned from Weed and Grub.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Sorry, Kevin MacDonald of the Kids in the Hall. Yeah. Which is like so cool. I didn't, I'm not, I don't understand Canadian humor really at all. Like it's just Tune into Weed and Grub, everyone. Mike never laughing at my jokes. Yeah, a lot of blank stares and a lot of
Starting point is 01:01:21 Oh, interesting. Jean Chrétien, you say. Is that some sort of Paul Tsongas-like figure? You actually did say to me the other day, is that your idea of a joke? I did say that. And I said yes. Wait, Mary Jane, as a Canadian, what's your connection to the kids in the hall? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:01:46 When I listened to that episode and I heard Kevin MacDonald on your show, I was just all the flutter, all the Twitter. Grew up on kids in the Hall. Oh my god, when I listened to that episode and I heard Kevin McDonald on your show, I was just all a flutter, all a twitter. Grew up on Kids in the Hall. Four on the floor first, which was, you know, a lesser known sketch group. But Kids in the Hall was everything to me. I don't know. I don't like that I don't know that deep comedy nerd reference. I don't either. It's driving me crazy. Do you know it? No, but
Starting point is 01:02:02 I was going to say something about this hour has 27 minutes or whatever that one's called. Mark Critch on this hour has 22 minutes. Those are all Newfoundlanders, and they are comedy royalty where I'm from. We all know each other. That's the crazy thing if you're from Newfoundland. So Mark Critch, if you're listening. So some of the funniest comedians and one of the funniest dogs.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Yeah. I know so many people who have done a play with a kid in the hall. Really? Yeah. Like a theater play? Yeah, I guess like they go back to Canada and they do some plays. Yeah, that's wild. I wish I could do that.
Starting point is 01:02:36 People go to Canada, like Keanu goes to Canada and does plays sometimes. Really? Yeah, he did Hamlet. John Wick plays? Yes. John Wick plays about John Wick? Yes, exactly. How is that possible? There's like, what, 385 words in the most recent John Wick? Yeah, I was going to say, that's an eight-page play. But have you seen Baryshnikov Dance? That's what it's like. Yeah, sure. Exactly. Yeah, that's a half of a one act.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Now, hold on. We talked about the sandwiches. What's the grub part of the Wheaton Grub? Oh, my gosh. A couple things. It's very tricky to answer. We both met over a stoned lunch to see if we wanted to make something together. And props to Mary Jane because I knew I could trust her because we each got dessert at lunch, which meant like, yeah, that was real nice. God, I got to start getting dessert at lunch.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Fuck, that sounds great. Don't miss out. We all might die tomorrow. Get dessert. Oh man, we are? Fuck! Help! Yeah, I'm glad you didn't take that other half. Jordan, I think that you'll learn to get
Starting point is 01:03:40 that dessert at lunch when you have someone to get it with. Someone who loves you, looks up to you. A young person who shares half your DNA. A little fella who calls you pops. Excuse me. I have to.
Starting point is 01:04:02 You know you need unique New York. Focus, focus, focus. Okay, it's fine. You can just say it every week. It's fine. It's not a big deal. It's funny. People like it.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Okay. I got to get a son. What are you going to do about it? I'm working on it. Okay, there we go. There it is. I'm working on it. Okay, there we go.
Starting point is 01:04:24 There it is. People are going apeshit like they were at SoFi Bank Stadium watching Slipknot. That maybe happened during the break. Sorry. Well, it has been a joy to have both of you on the program. We're very grateful. Weed and Grub is the name of the podcast. And how about this? Our producer on Jordan, Jesse
Starting point is 01:04:47 Goh, Matt Lieb. Our theme music, Love You by The Free Design. Our thanks to The Free Design and to their label, Light in the Attic Records. You can find us on social media at maximumfun.reddit.com where we can chat about different stuff that
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