Jordan, Jesse, GO! - City Pop, with Christian Dueñas

Episode Date: June 20, 2024

This week Jordan and Jesse welcome Maximum Fun producer extraordinaire Christian Dueñas, host of the brand new podcast Primer, for a conversation about talking dog movies, Zardoz, and city pop (a genre of music).Style that makes you feel as good as you look—get started today at stitchfix.com/JJGO.Listen to Christian's new podcast Primer, wherever you get your podcasts!Give us 5 stars and a review on the Apple Podcast Store!Join Maximumfun.org/join and listen to JJGo's new bonus episode of Gracie's Game Gauntlet where they talk about the video game Shaq Fu and the movie Kazaam.Want to purchase Jordan's new graphic novel Youth Group but need to be convinced first? Not to worry! You can get a preview of some pages of Youth Group at News-a-rama here!Get a message on the Jumbotron now!

Give a little time for the child within you. Don't be afraid to be young and free. Undo the locks and throw away the keys, and take off your shoes and socks and run you. It's Jordan Jesse Goh. I am Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris Boy, detective. Well, it's a moment of triumph for me, Jordan.

Only moments before I passed through the front, uh, not barricade, the threshold, the front threshold of my home on my way here. I defeated my 10-year-old at NBA 2K. Hell, yeah. It's really important to teach your children humility in that way. Right, to let them know that they suck.

Yeah, like, that at the end of the day, it doesn't matter how much time they spend practicing. Uh, their dad can just shoot three-pointers with Detlef Shrimp. Yeah. Detlef Shrimp. Uh, as a father, what is the current thinking on whether or not

you let your kids win at games? Uh, my thinking is, all they do is play games. So if I can beat them, I should. Okay. Like it's sort of like my moral right to beat them because they practice so much. Right. I wouldn't beat, look, if Scarlett and I were playing

out of the park baseball 2024 against each other, the baseball management simulation that I like to play. Is there a 1v1 version of that? Is there a PVP? Yeah, sure. I mean, you know, I think you can share a save file. Okay. Yeah, I think you can share a save file

over the worldwide web. In that case, I would- It's about who builds that super meter faster, and then you. Exactly. I would let her win. I would let her win out of the park baseball 2024. In all other games, I'm going to try as hard as I can,

because I deserve it. Right. You work hard. I work hard. And- Bring home the bacon. They work hard playing NBA 2K. I work hard playing NBA 2K. I work hard working.

Oh, so was it genuinely a challenge to beat her? Oh, yeah. Yes. OK. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I had Bulls versus Blazers in the NBA

playoffs for Sega Genesis, but the skills don't directly transfer. Right. Basketball games have changed a lot over the years, I imagine. I mean, the main thing is. for the NBA playoffs for Sega Genesis, but the skills don't directly transfer. Basketball games have changed a lot over the years, I imagine. I mean, the main thing is... Played a lot of arch rivals. Yeah, there you go.

I like to teach... Punch guys, pull down their pants. Like... Dog bites them. I wanna teach my children that it doesn't matter how much they play if they have a guy on their team named Dunkie Dunkerson, who's seven foot nine and 400 pounds and has 99 on all sliders,

they're not going to improve, and Dad's still going to beat them. This is a create a character that they've made. Exactly. Solid name. Are there games that your kids can beat you at? All other games. All other games.

Yeah, all other games. Have you tried a Fortnite? Have you tried a Street Fighter? I've tried. Yeah, I've tried Street Fighter. I've tried Street Fighter. And Street Fighter, Street Fighter, I can hang in there only because my kids do not know the combos.

They don't play it a ton. They played it enough to be better than me at it. But Street Fighter is one of those where... I've got some issues of Nintendo Power I'll send over. Okay, great. Have them read those. Jordan, have you seen Grace's Nintendo Power collection? Nope, I was joking.

Okay, that's what she asked for Christmas last year. Wow, really? She loves Howard and Nestor, probably. Grace probably has like 30 episodes of Nintendo Power. She was mad, though, because too many of them were Nintendo 64 era and not NES era. And the NES ones are pretty expensive. Oh, yeah?

Yeah, even all of them are 10 bucks a piece if you go to the video game store and buy them. Nice. From the Dusty Piles video game store. I don't know if you're familiar with this one. It's not the name of the store. I know this category of business.

Yeah. It's next to a store that just sells those little round fish tanks with baby turtles. Sure, yeah. Check cashing place. Yeah, exactly. I like this category of store a lot. Yeah, I cashing place. Yeah. Yeah. I like. Oh, yes. I like this category of store a lot. Yeah. I mean, if someone just like if a social media post is just remember this

cover of Nintendo Power, fucking instant nostalgia blasts for me. I love it. I feel the same way about Beckett baseball card monthly. Yeah. Show me a Beckett. I'm going to I'm going to pop a boner. Oh, Brett Saber. No, no. Hold on. I'm not jacking off to Nintendo powers, okay? Oh, well. Maybe. Listen, I don't wanna, listen, I'm sex positive.

I mean, if you can look at Jose Canseco and not crank it a little. No, that's true. Okay. Have you seen Howard and his friend Nestor? A little. Anyway, yeah, no, I think I- I'm sorry if Nestor was a child.

Furl. Furl. I don't know what Nestor was a child. Firm. Firm. I don't know what Nestor's age was supposed to be. I can only get it up to Goofus in Gallant. Oh, I bet you're a Goofus man. I could beat, for there was a minute where Scarlett wanted to try playing a baseball

game against me. OK. And it was the same as, look, we've talked before on the show about a special time in both of our lives where my housemate Nathaniel was a guy who loved obscure fighting games as much as you do. Yes. And you guys would bring CDRs over to play on the Dreamcast. I don't know, the Garou Mark of the Wolves is obscure, but whatever.

Okay. I was going to jokingly say Garou Mark of the Wolves is obscure, but whatever, okay. I was gonna jokingly say Garou Mark of the Wolves. Hold on, hold on! Are you gonna say Garou Mark of the Wolves? Bushido Blade. Bushido Blade's a good one. Our guest on the program. Air guys! Our guest on the program, okay, let me finish saying this.

Yes, gotta watch the ring. There is a process whereby over the course of six weeks, we would obtain a new sports video game for me and Nathaniel to share our mutual, to intermix our mutual interests. Over the course of six weeks, Nathaniel would learn the rules of the sport, and in so doing come to crush me in every single game.

So it would be like at the beginning, I would know to run on third and 12, and I would sometimes beat Nathaniel, and then eventually, and that's how I would beat Scarlett on third and 12. And I would sometimes beat Nathaniel, and then eventually. And that's how I would beat Scarlett at the baseball game. Besides that, they would beat me at everything. If there was a one-on-one mode in Skyrim, I would beat them. But seriously, even Frankie, who is seven years old,

could defeat me at any of those games where people fight each other. 100%. Well, it seems like you're the one who needs the Nintendo powers. who is seven years old could defeat me at any of those games where people fight each other. Okay. 100%, just. Well, it seems like you're the one who needs the Nintendo powers. Sometimes I can beat Grace at Mario Kart. Okay, all right.

But only on the lower CCs because I don't want to have to bother to learn how to use the brakes. Okay, well, you're never gonna powerslide then. Yeah, that's true. Okay, our guest on the program, a Jordan Jesse Goh legend, longtime producer here at Maximum Fun.

Now both the producer and host of Maximum Fun's newest music podcast, primer Christian Duenas. How are you, Christian? Hello, wow, it's been a long time since I've been on Jordan Jesse Goh. Is this now, I just wanna clarify what we're dealing with here.

Christian, are you the first instance of from caller to guest? Because we were- It might be Riley. Oh, it might be Riley, yeah, yeah, yeah. Riley Silverman, shout out. You're riding in some majestic wake then. No, well, it's a joy to have you here. For those who have not been listening to this show

for 15 years, first of all, thanks to all three of you who have come aboard in the last 15 years. Oh, you're welcome. Matt, don't act like you listen to the show. I've been listening since the beginning, since we were all in college. That's true. Matt, we have this show we're trying to do. What do you think?

We're friends. We were good friends in college. You guys should just talk about stuff. Okay. We shouldn't give people a reason to listen. You were on to something. You were on to something. I think I came up with the idea. Have you guys ever thought about just talking about whatever? Just talk, man.

I loved it. Many, many years ago, we had a momentous occasions call from a young man in Los Angeles whose momentous occasion was that he had just found out his grandfather's favorite genre of movies, and it was talking dog movies. We were so excited about it, so thrilled by it, that I asked our then producer, Brian, hey, doesn't our voicemail,

when you get the email of the WAVE file, doesn't it show you what the phone number of the person who called it in is? And he's like, yeah, and I'm like, that guy said he's in Los Angeles, right? We should invite him to a taping to thank him. Yes. And at the time, Christian was in college studying to go into medicine.

And he forsook the healing arts in favor of this bullshit. Yeah. How's the saying, Hippocratic oath? Long conversations with my parents. But you know, they're happy now. They're fine. My sister's a nurse now, so it all balanced out. OK.

Oh, OK. Is that how it works? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She just took my credits. And what is a podcast but a healing of the mind? That's a really good point. Through the ear holes. Through the ears we heal the mind.

We enter through the ear holes. With our talking. And pound upon thine stretched skins. Stirrups. Pound, pound. Parts of the ear, right? Yeah, sure. Stirrup is a, isn't that, that's where you put your foot in when you're riding a horse

also. Yeah, there you go. That's another meaning of stirrup. See, this is our healing. This is our gift. In a way, this is a ceremony. Yes. Wouldn't you say this is a healing ceremony? Ritual, important, prayer, breathing.

Sage, sage, burning sage. Christian, do you have an update about your grandfather? Is he still into talking dog movies? Are there any new talking dog movies that have come out recently? Honestly, yeah, I don't know. I don't know if he, I think he knows at this point. Okay.

That his favorite genre of movies. That he changed my life, basically. It's hard to talk to him because he speaks Spanish, but he speaks specifically a very Salvadorian version of Spanish, whereas even my family is like, I can kind of understand what you're saying. So it's hard to shoot the shit with him talking about the newest Beverly Hills Chihuahua or whatever. But wait, so like take for take, for example,

Beverly Hills Chihuahua or babe, are you positing the existence of a Salvadoran dub? I mean, until the moon day, they probably have a Salvadoran dub at the very least. There's fan dubs, right? Yeah, there has to be. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Where they say, uh, Zacate instead of Cespit or something like that. There you go.

Yeah. Yeah. What is the most recent talking dog movie? Do they still like? Strays with my boy, Will Ferrell. Strays. I never, I didn't see it. How was Strays?

My mom, my mom texted me several times about it. She was like, you should watch it. It's really funny. And then I was like, that's just no fucking way fucking way. And then I think she gave up at some point after like four text messages or something like that, but I was just like, I've watched the trailer and I know that this is not my kind of movie. That's like a babe-style talking dog movie

where there's an animated mouth, but... I believe so, yeah. An actual animal. Oh, I guess I don't know this. Does he like animated talking dog movies? Like, all dogs go to heaven? I don't know if he's a weird mouth, but... I believe so, yeah....an actual animal. Oh, I guess I don't know this. Does he like animated talking dog movies? Like, all dogs go to heaven? Balto.

No. Balto, another great example. Balto. I don't think so. I would say probably not, just because cartoons are like for kids. Sure. I'm not saying that of me, Christian Duenas. I'm saying that as...

No, we get it. Unlike Beverly Hills Chihuahua. Which is for serious film fans, yes. Cinephiles only. Yeah. It's a criterion blu-ray of Beverly Hills Chihuahua. Yeah. For a long time you couldn't get it in 4K,

but then Keno Lorber stepped in. Sure, yeah. Martin Scorsese's commentary track on it is... Legendary. Extraordinary. Extraordinary stuff. Martin Scorsese's commentary track on it is legendary. It's beautiful. Extraordinary stuff. How do you feel about talking dog movies, Christian? Huh.

I, huh, let's see. What if I see, I can't even think of a talking dog movie I see. What about this? Let me ask you this question. A dog's purpose, that's a great. Oh yeah. That's a dog.

A dog's purpose is to speak. Right, exactly. Right. And to shake. That's a talk. I mean, it's a dog's purpose is to speak. Right, exactly. Right. And to shake. And to shake. Sure. And sometimes to roll over. Does Air Bud talk?

No, Air Bud does not talk. And I learned something amazing about- What the fuck, really? Yeah, I learned something amazing about Air Bud recently. I read a magazine article about Air Bud. You know, because I'm a culture journalist. Sure, yeah. And in my capacity as a professional critic

at National Public Radio, I read this article about Air Bud. And apparently, the reason they made the movie Air Bud was because a movie producer saw a dog playing basketball. Right, I'm just like. So like, basically, the guy who produced Air Bud saw Air Bud playing basketball. Air Bud is a real dog who really knows how to play basketball. It was a documentary. There was only one of them. He saw it at the halftime show of a college basketball game

or something, said, I bet that could be a movie. They didn't train other dogs to do it, so it's just this one dog. It's that one dog. They got two guys who wrote for Just Shoot Me to bang out a script in a weekend. It was like one of those things where like, can you actually cast Harrison Ford in your movie? What if he dies during shooting?

It's $100 million risk or whatever? It was like that, but with this dog, they only live to be nine years old or whatever. It was like that, but with this dog, they only lived to be nine years old or whatever, a golden retriever. Like, there was one dog, it knew how to play basketball, it did not aspire to be a film star, it got discovered like a hunk at the pool in Beverly Hills,

and they built a fucking franchise around this dog. Wow. And then it OD'd at the Chateau-Mormon. It did. It did. It flew too close to the sun. Yeah. So he doesn't talk, it's kind of blowing my mind.

Cause I, you know, I like all, like all men of our sort. I know Air Bud is like just a comedy poll. There's no rule, there's nothing in the rule books that's not gonna be basketball. Like, to the fact that he doesn't talk blows my mind. This is a classic example. If we were Christian's age, or if we were Griffin McElroy's age,

we would have seen Air Bud. I know this because my brother-in-law, who is about 12, 10, 12 years younger than me, that guy loved watching AirBuddy. I know because I knew him when he was seven. Do the AirBuddies talk? I believe the AirBuddies do talk. Okay, well that's, okay, now I feel like

I'm on solid ground. Once there were a bunch of puppies, I think they started talking to each other. And the space puppies, what are the space puppies called? Space buds? Is that what they're called? If I'm remembering my, you know, random to be scrolling correctly,

the, there's the Bud movies, Air Bud, you know, and then Golden Receiver and then the Buddies is a whole separate thing. Golden Receiver is about Donald Trump in Russia. Oh my God, Jesse, Jesse. He's getting pissed on. Shut the fuck up, man.. He's getting pissed on. Shut the fuck up, man.

This guy's getting pissed on. Compromise. Jesse, I'll help you punch up your John Oliver packet later. But I guess the buddies are like a spinoff of Air Bud, right? Are they Air Bud's babies? Sure. Cool. Yeah. Are the Air Buds babies? Ah, sure. Cool. Yeah.

Well, there's one Air Bud porno. That's where the puppies are conceived. Right, yes, you get to see the conception. Yeah. It's a porno for dogs. You shouldn't watch it for a porno. Too late. Ha ha ha.

Mars Scorsese's commentary track on the porno. Beautiful, yeah. I mean, film preservation is so important. I've been spending a lot more time at the dog park lately. Something amazing about dogs, boy dogs, is even if they're fixed, they do humping, but they hump, they just, they don't hump, I mean, they're fixed.

They don't necessarily hump because of like horniness or to procreate, because they're really equal. They're all gender with their humps. It's just what they do when they're pumped. Like if they're pumped up, they're like, yeah, let's go. I'm gonna climb on you and hump this. I don't know what humping is. Why am I doing it?

I don't know. Yeah, I don't even have sperm. Sure. They cut the sperms off me. A futile, useless humping. Yeah, it's a really futile. I've been watching Talking Monkey movies. Ooh, do tell.

What are, okay, let me see if I can name a Talking Monkey movie. The Lion King. The Lion King, yeah, I guess movies that feature a talking monkey. Does Ed talk? Oh, I don't know, yeah, good question. I mean, he's an ape.

He's an ape. But still. Oh boy, now we're gonna get the monkey ape guys. The Gorilla from Congo. The Gorilla from Congo! Oh yeah, Amy, Amy. Yes, fine animal gorilla. Yeah, that's right, what is it, a bad human?

Wait, are you suggesting the gorilla from Congo was played by Coco the gorilla? I think they used Coco shit in that movie. If I remember. I could be conflating. Bad gorilla, go away. Does sign language and shit? I thought it was a guy in a suit. And then Robin Williams comes to visit him?

Yeah, and then they become friends, and then someone tells them that Robin's coming to suicide himself. Oh, no. That is part of the story of Coco the Gorilla. May she rest in peace. May she rest in peace. All ball, of course. All ball, the name of her kitten.

I know I've been watching those Planet of the Apes, Jordan. Oh, the Planet of the Apes. Yeah, so you're making your way through the franchise. Yeah, so my- So you've watched, have you now watched the Koki 70s ones? So yeah. Yay!

So I haven't watched all of those Koki 70s ones yet, but I've watched the first four Planet of the Apes. Have you ever seen any Planet of the Apes, Christian? The only thing I know is that Simpson's Dr. Zayas thing. From Chipmunk A to chipmunk Z. Chipmunk A to chipmunk Z. Chipmunk A to chipmunk Z. Can I play the piano anymore?

Of course you can. Well, I couldn't before. It's so funny. Yeah, I showed it to Grace. I was so excited. I was so excited to show that to her. No, Gracie, I don't know how she got the idea that she wanted to watch these, but any movie

that she wants to watch with me that doesn't sound like an unendurable trial to me. Like a kazam. Yeah, so she wanted to, for example, today, we watched Planet of the Apes 4. Mm-hmm. Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, I think. Yeah, sure.

She had initially been arguing to watch a Christmas story, too. Oh That's a stinker yeah, I she made me to two nights ago. She made me watch Ferris Bueller the sitcom Wow starring Jennifer Aniston YouTube is a poison. So anyway, yeah, so we've been watching The Planet of the Apes. And when we last checked in, I think I had watched the first Planet of the Apes movie and was astonished, as I remain,

at just how absolutely fucking insane Charlton Asden's performance is in that. Like, you couldn't... All the screaming and yelling that has been parodied an infinite number of times has been insufficiently parodied because it's more crazy than that. Sure. And that they built this whole film around him

while everyone else is doing normal acting, including the people in the monkey suits. The second one, as you sort of previewed for me, is a different guy doing the exact same thing as Charlton Heston. But being... He's like in two or three scenes, right, Charlton Heston? Yeah,... He's like in two or three scenes, right, Charlton Heston? Yeah, he like shows up at the end.

But like, most of it is essentially if you just took the first two-thirds of the Planet of the Apes screenplay and just put a different, less insane guy in the Charlton Heston role. And then... That was how you did a sequel for a while. People remember the... People remember the future shit from Back to the Future 2. in the Charlton Heston role. And then- That was how you did a sequel for a while. Yeah.

People remember the, people remember the future shit from Back to the Future 2. Right. Right, the, you know, Jaws hologram and the hoverboards. That's like 10 minutes of the movie. That movie is them hanging around in the first movie. Yeah.

But just imagine if it had been Jason Bateman... Right. ...instead of Michael J. Fox. Michael J. Fox, yeah. Yeah. Um, and so, like, that's about two-thirds of it, and then, as you said, they meet some human beings with psychic powers who worship an atomic bomb,

and then everyone explodes and dies. Yeah. Huh. Yeah, exactly. The movie ends with the end, and then there's more movies. Yeah, I was gonna say, that seems like the end. Yeah. Huh. Yeah, exactly. And then there's more movies. Yeah, I was going to say, that seems like the end. Yeah. Yeah, so it ends, it is basically like goes straight into a sort of grave of the fireflies

level tragedy. In the third one, through some sort of hasty explanations, our two ape heroes, Cornelius and Dr. What's-her-name, spend the first 40 minutes of the film, I would say, going through a kind of Star Trek IV style fish out of water comedy in 1970s Beverly Hills. Which is great. Yeah, yeah. I like that one.

I like that Planet of the Apes movie. Yeah. Like, I was so unprepared for after the, like, this sort of, like, weird, vaguely homemade, boring quality of the first one, which I did actually like. I did enjoy it, to be clear. But like those are its qualities. Sure.

It seems like people who don't know what a movie is made it. They found ape masks. Yeah. Like, what do we do with these? Yeah, exactly. And then the sort of like second tier Star Trek, the original series quality of the part of the second Planet of the Apes movie that's not just a remake of the first movie. They decided to just make like a breezy, like a breezy sort of Brady

Brunch Go to Hawaii starring two apes that can talk and become the toast of the town. And then that it takes a hard turn into, like, an episode of Mannix. Like, just all of a sudden, it is... It is like cops with sideburns sliding across the, uh, you know, sliding across the hood of a muscle car. That's 70s, and this, and you know,

it's really the case with all those, but Reynolds movies we watched, like 70s movies were just a tone buffet. Yeah. You did not have to have a uniform tone throughout a movie. You could just do, you could just have it be another movie for a while. And also, all action sequences in all 70s films

were about sort of like shaky, very far away POV shots of like people on scaffoldings or boat decks or things like that. Children's play structures, anything with levels, and then just a punch in onto the person. Like it sort of swings around, then you see what they're looking for, in this case the ape wearing clothes, and then they punch in onto them. Then at the end of that, of course, the ape child dies in a horrible fusillade of bullets.

Oh, also. Wait, what? Yeah. That's a real monkey too, right? They use a real monkey for the child? Oh, 100% that's a real monkey. You bet that's a real monkey. They shot a real monkey?

Yeah, that's a real monkey and that's a real Ricardo Montalban, right? Who's incredible. Now I understand who recalls what. For all 40 years of my life, people 10 years older than me have been saying Rich Corinthian Leather to me. And now I know exactly what they're talking about. But yeah, that movie, I fucking liked.

I just straight up liked. No qualification, just straight up liked it. And then the one that I watched this last time is just hard cut to 1991. 1991 is a world where they wear the jackets of 1968 with turtlenecks but monochrome. The movie made in 1972, I think, but just everyone wearing turtlenecks.

That's how you can tell it's the future. And they're in Century City. It's not identified, but it's clearly Century City, a weird part of Los Angeles where everything is a skyscraper built in 1964. And it is, again, just totally just the weirdest thing. It is like gritty and intense. It is all of the apes are, can't talk yet, and they're slaves to the people.

There's a lot of race content. They reveal in this film that there are black people on Earth in the Planet of the Apes version. There's a black astronaut who dies almost before he has any lines in the first one. And then there's just like an extended, oh, there's a fucking crazy score by, this is right up Christian's Alley, this guy Tom Scott,

who among other things was in a famous jazz fusion band called LA Express. It was sort of like a weather report kind of thing. And then also was in the Blues Brothers. Oh cool, okay. He played the saxophone in the Blues Brothers. And yeah, there's just like 30 minutes of just like brutal ape on man violence in like shaky 1972 cameras. As Roddy McDowell playing his own son, but his own ape son, playing the ape son of his own character. playing the ape son of his own ape character, turns really dark and intense and leads everyone to murder everyone,

including the guy that helped him. Oh, you're gonna... And so probably battle is next. You're probably going to be in battle four next, right? Yeah, I think that's right. I like that you guys are watching series. You're, like, starting at the beginning and going through. That's fun. I had suggested that we watch the new ones, because I saw one of those and thought it was super good.

But Grace felt it was important to punish me. Sure. Gotta get into the Marky Mark one too. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Marky Mark one is an important entry in the ape story. Marky Mark one is only two away.

I saw that one in the movie theater. Yeah, I did too. I saw that at the Grand Lake in Oakland. Me too. Beautiful movie theater. Speaking of wildly toned 70s movies, I watched Zardas for the first time the other night. I know this only as a picture of Sean Connery

in a crazy underwear shirt. As did I. Christian, you seen the picture? I know the most. Like, I know the beats of the story, I guess. OK. That's more than I knew going into it. Wait, what are, OK.

Well, hold on, because you just saw it. Christian, what would you say, if you were projecting, well, first of all, describe. I've seen the movie, and I don't know if I could say what the beats of the story are. Describe the image that's seared in my mind. It's Sean Connery hanging out. It's like orange, I think.

It's like an orange, kind of like Leather Daddy outfit. It's like a crotch. And then there's like, there's no shirt. It's just like straps. There's many straps, and he's holding a gun. I remember that. Yeah. It's like his space straps.

Yeah. Yeah, he has space underwear held up by space straps, no space shirt, and holding a gun, long ponytail, I think is very important to mention, long ponytail. It sort of reminds me of, in the long ponytail, a cruel commentary on Sean Connery's famous baldness. Yeah. It reminds me a little bit of, now

that you mentioned the straps, my godfather, Michael Haynes, God bless him, one of the most loveliest human beings on Earth, has been wearing the same... He's a very serious and sincere... I mean, he's my godfather for a reason. My parents... He was my parents' friend from church. And he's still very active at St. John's Episcopal Church in the Mission District of San Francisco. She, I guess he's probably 80 something now, Michael.

And he would wear like, he would wear like a buttoned up, sort of very conservative plaid shirt always, and blue jeans, and like a leather daddy combination belt suspenders, black leather situation. And like, I haven't seen Michael in quite some time, but we're Facebook friends. Just every so often, I just see him 83 years old

or 82 years old or whatever, just the very picture of the church lady, but also with his leather daddy belt and suspenders. And I'm just like, I love you, Michael. Thank you. You do you buddy. picture of the church lady, but also with his leather daddy belt and suspenders. And I'm just like, I love you, Michael. Think you do you, buddy. Sure. Was he just a Zardas fan?

Probably just a Zardas fan. Yeah. Anyway, so that's what we pictured, the space suspenders and all that. What are the beats that you're imagining, Christian? When I said those words, I thought I had a picture in my brain of what the beats are. I can't tell you much about it.

I can tell you, Wizard of Oz. I'm gonna ask you to speculate. I'm, okay, post-apocalypse, Mad Max style type shit, I'm guessing. And then, Zardoz is like, a like AI or a god or something that they worship. And it's like very mysterious. And then I know that it's wizard,

Wizard of Oz is the thing about it. Right. Oh. Wizard. So what, so like a- Wizard of Oz. Wizard Oz. Wizard of Oz.

So I knew the image. The Wizard of Oz. And that is, that is where we get it. I'm like, you know, the only reason I watch a movie anymore is to talk about it on a podcast. This was it. And I'm like, yeah, this will be fun. Zardos, I know the photo.

I'm like, I kinda know the time period. I'm like, this is gonna be an inept Star Wars ripoff. This will be an ice pirate. This will be a OG Battlestar Galactica. This will be a, there's gonna be some clankety clank robots in it. I had to watch, Grace made me watch Star, ah geez, what is the, it has Star in the name.

And then it has, it has- Search. Yeah, Star Search. Yeah, it has, Search. Yeah, Star Search. Yeah, it has Ed McMahon and Paula Poundstone between stand up comedy. Oh, oh, Star Trek. They're discovering, no, no, no, the last Starfighter. Oh yeah, that's what I was expecting.

Starring the music man. Yeah. Zardoz, in actuality, Psychosexual Nightmare. Really? Yes, cocaineiest movie I've ever seen. Zardoz is a fake god they've created. Are you sure that you didn't see Yoderowski's Zardoz? I did, yeah, right.

There's Zardoz, then there's Yoderowski's Zardoz. Zardoz is a giant floating head that shoots guns out of his mouth. Oh! He sprays realistic looking guns. They were probably just guns in the 70s, probably just loaded ass guns. But I bet if you get close enough to Zardas,

his mere presence fucking stimulates the shit out of those follicles. Oh sure. Sprout, sprout, sprout. That's the sound you hear when you get close to Zardoz. And then yeah, it's about a dystopia where Sean Connery is a violent prairie murderer who's the only person in the world who can get an erection.

I'm sorry, excuse me? It's the only person. So you said a prairie murderer. I heard everything up to prairie murder. He lives outside of a bubble city and murders using the guns that Zardoz shoots from his mouth. Right. And then they bring him into the bubble city.

Does he catch them? Yeah, and then they- Or lead people to stand, like smell Zardoz's breath. He gives them, he hands them out to other... That's how Zardoz gets people to get murdered by him. He says, can you check my breath? Could you come check my breath? Bang, bang, bang.

Anyway, you guys want to smell Zardoz's breath and come back for a little bit more? Yeah. Now I'm thinking about Zardoz killing Dr. DeSoto. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan Jesse Goh. It's Jordan Jesse Goh. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy detective. Our thanks right now to the folks who support Jordan Jesse Goh, the members of Maximum Fun.

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Yeah, very bad game, very fun episode. Yeah, and I of course got to watch the movie Shazam, starring Shaq. What are we, in an alternate dimension? Jesse, it's Kazam. Oh, excuse me. Shazam is the one with Sinbad. Right. Yes, exactly. Okay. We're also supported this week by the folks over at Stitch Fix. Ooh, Stitch Fix. Here's what it is. It's a website that gives you a stylist, Jesse, at StitchFix.com slash JJ Go. You get a personal stylist who understands your style, size, and budget.

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What is it? No, I don't know what it means, Jesse. Am I a dummy? I don't know what it means. What does it mean? I'm not gonna tell everybody about a tiny wolf doing a wheelie on a bridge and what that means. We all know that except for you, Jordan. Yeah, I guess I'm the only one. You're the only guy who doesn't understand what a tiny wolf doing a wheelie on a bridge

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I feel like such a chump. Well, hey, I eventually figured out what 69 meant. I can figure this out too. Ha, ha, ha, ha. It took me so long not to go, whew, when I wanted to give a blowjob. Wait, what? Blowjob went.

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I had it. I had to keep it. Actually, can I say why I said stinky dinky? I actually saw when you were the caretaker of the Overlook Hotel, there was this typewriter I found and it just said Stinky Dinky. All stink and no dink makes Chris a dull boy. My handle on most social media is butts on a butt. Yeah.

I play a lot of Call of Duty and my name on that was butts on a butt. Then I got flagged for inappropriate content. My name, Butts on a Butt, got flagged. It's the foulest thing ever said on Call of Duty. So I had to change it, and I was like, I don't know what to change it to, and then stinky dinky. Stinky dinky.

I think it works. I think that's great. First time a nickname ever actually made me laugh, to be honest. That's the best one. The nicknames. I mean, they're fine, but just the way I think that it's great first time a nickname ever actually made me laugh They're fine, but just the way you're stinky stinky so much confidence in it I okay, so I have a question Christian because the thing this thing about

This thing about having an image seared in your mind. I feel like so Primer Jordan free for your benefit if you haven't heard it yet about having an image seared in your mind. I feel like, so, primer, Jordan, for your benefit if you haven't heard it yet, it's, the idea is that every season of the show is about a different non-English language genre of music. And it's sort of a guide to the world of that genre of music through conversations with, you know, famous musicians and critics and stuff like that.

And this first season is city pop. And when I listened to the first episode, one of my favorite things about it was about this genre of music about which I knew very little was just the extent to which everyone readily admitted that as much as it was a genre of music, it was also just a picture in your head of a Japanese lady in a business suit riding in a convertible. Palm trees on a driving next to the beach. You know, it's very pastel, you know, sounds gorgeous. Very pretty.

Hiroshi Nagai, check that person out. If want to look at some City Pop-esque stuff. I do. Thank you. Hiroshi, how did you end up on City Pop? Oh man, where do I begin? Okay, I'll start at the beginning. I don't know, I could use a primer. I like music a lot.

I just listen to a lot of different genres of music generally. And I've gone through so many phases. I'm currently in my sex vampire phase. But I was in the... What about music-wise? But I like still maybe a hot take. I like vaporwave. Vaporwave is cool to me still.

I'm going to be riding vaporwave waves for as long as I can. And vaporwave is like, um... We're more into power violence. Vaporwave, it's a hard thing to explain, but it is like very like, mall, 90s mall, but like melting vibe.

I got kind of into a genre of YouTube video called Simpsons Wave where they have that but they insert Simpsons quotes and just play them over and over again. A lot of good Simpsons wave out there. So that uses a lot of city pop aesthetic and songs. And so I'm a big, I love samples, like listening to a song and then, oh, they sampled the drum from, I don't know,

James Brown, Funky Drummer or something like that. So I would search up what they sampled and a lot of times they led me to City Pop and then just like would learn more about it just because of samples basically, like just the way it was reused in different ways. And that's cool, I mean, you know, that vapor wave, it leads you to cool stuff sometimes, you know?

You know, I fucking hate vapor. Oh, boy. You touched a nerve. Fucking people who still like vapor wave. I love vapor wave, baby. Never die. It's like ska. Right. You got to get these two genres that will always be with us. Meanwhile, I'm wearing a t-shirt that says still emo. Right.

I was watching, you guys ever seen this YouTube show? My wife's cousin used to work at Amoeba Records in San Francisco. And they would make, she was in charge of when they would bring musicians in, and they would make this show called What's in My Bag. Yeah, yeah, yeah, great. They were making this forever, and I was watching, God only knows what the name of this band was

that was in it, but it was a band where they played their music, and, you know, it sounded like just different, just different inhuman death gurgles. Sure. Hell yeah. You know what I mean? And what I like about this is that they'll be like, I got, you know, it's like one thing when it's like,

like I watched Kathleen Hannah, you know, from all the Seattle bands of the 90s. And she was like, oh, I like Demi Lovato. It was like her out of the box pick. But you're like, yeah, of course she does. She's like the queen of all feminist music. She just picked some cool ladies to show, right?

These dudes, they were in this noise band. Some metal sub-genre. Fucking noise, something, something. It was just beautiful, cause it would just go like, it was all the dudes picked their own stuff, and just like one guy would be like, yeah, I picked this Split 12,

it's this band that we've worked with a lot They're sort of flesh bore But you know, but they're but they're also they're also kind of vapor twee Yeah, you know and you're like, alright. Alright. Alright, and then and then the next person will be like Yeah I picked the soundtrack from BMX. You're like, what? What happened? What's going?

And then the next guy will just be like, yeah, this is a combination fleshcore and a nightmare killer. And I really liked the guitar tones on this. And then they'll be like, yeah, I chose the Carpenters. Beautiful. She's like, these guys are the best guys. I wanna hang out with these guys

that have these strong opinions about these nightmarish forms of music that I can't even bear listening to for 15 seconds. And then they're also just like, yeah, this is one of my favorite lady folk singers from the 70s. That's, that's the person I aspire to be. I mean, that's to be that guy, just creating a nightmare, visiting it upon the world. And then just being like, yeah, and I also picked Very Necessary by Salt and Pepper. Anyway, when something momentous happens to you, Jordan, give us a call, 206-984-4FUN,

or just send us a voice memo, jjgoatmaximumfun.org. Here's a person who's done that. Hi Jordan, Jesse, guest, and Matt. It's Celeste calling with a momentous occasion. So I traveled for work today and after my flight I was hungry and tired so I went to the hotel restaurant and it wasn't busy. There was maybe eight of us there but it was really quiet so I'm just sitting there eating my meal and reading my book and then something momentous broke the silence a Man who was a couple meters away from me his phone directions started going off on full volume and declared

starting route to the Playhouse Gentleman's Club Direction start going. And he frantically tried to turn the sound down on his phone. Everybody already heard it. No one said anything or did anything. But of course, I want to Google this place. And it sounds like there's first class entertainment, daily food and drink specials, and bottle service,

which sounds pretty awesome. I really wanna underscore, I'm not shaming this man for wanting to go to a gentleman's club. If he went, I hope that he tipped the staff a tremendous amount. This is more of a PSA or a momentous PSA for folks who don't want entire restaurants to know where you're going.

There are volume buttons on all of our phones. Okay, bye, I love you. Love you too, Celeste. And no one would ever suggest that Celeste would strip shame this local businessman, this traveling businessman. Hey, the script sounded pretty good. You guys want to do the rest of the show

from the Playhouse? Let's go to the Playhouse. Can we get some mics and a remote recorder and set up? You got it. Let's do this. Let's do it. Hold on, let me get the directions real quick. I'll tell you guys this.

Why is Genuine's pony playing in the background of Jordan Jesse Goh all of a sudden? I don't think anyone will be surprised to hear, listening to this, will be surprised to hear I'm not really a strip club guy. But I do like the idea, and I don't... I don't love the idea of becoming a strip club guy. But I do like the idea. And I don't love the idea of becoming a strip club guy. Like, again, I don't mean to shame this local businessman

or the folks who are- No one wants to shame the local businessman. We all love the local businessman. That's why we're in the Kiwanis club. We wouldn't be in the Kiwanis if we didn't love local businessmen. Although, I'll say, this guy was eating at a hotel restaurant.

He was probably an out-of-town businessman. Thank you, Jordan. Is that where you were going? No, I was gonna say that you're in the Kiwanis Club, and I'm in the Lady Lions. A lot of great clubs out there. A lot of great clubs. What, are you a seroptimist? Helps. I have a strip club there. A lot of great clubs. What are you, a seroptimist?

I have a strip club story, can I share? Sure. Wait, wait, let me just, okay. Let me finish saying what kind of strip club person I would like to be. And then I wanna hear the strip club person. So Matt, you can tell yours, I'll tell mine. Ready to go.

I don't need to be, I don't, I feel no need to be a strip club habitué. I'm never gonna be a strip club guy. But were I to be a strip club guy, I'd love to be a guy who goes to a strip club for a nice meal. I'd just love to be the guy who goes there for the meal specials, who's like, oh, fuck it's Thursday, chicken strips. It's state day, baby.

Chicken strips. Yeah, chicken strips. I can't wait to get my ranchy fingers all over the girls. Be like barbecue ladies. I'm from out of town. I'm in from Buffalo and so am I, saucy twitsies. Twitsies. I'm in from Buffalo and suing my saucy twitzy. Oh Lord. Twitzy.

Them's the feets, Jesse. No touching the girls with your feet. Keep your socks on, sir. I almost said frankfurters, but that's the penises. Oh yeah, yeah. So anyway. So Christian, what's your strip club story? I went to, this was years and years ago.

Well, I brought a gun into one. All right, man. OK. Comedy show, Chris. I'm goofing around. So I was there with some friends, and we were just sitting, because strip clubs are very expensive to be at.

And we were just chilling for a little bit because we had spent some money. And one of the women approaches me and starts dancing in my direction. And then she just comes up to me and she goes, hey, do you play Call of Duty? Are you stinky? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, do of Duty. Are you stinky? I'm like, what the fuck? Are you stinky?

I'm like, do I give off gamer vibes? Do I have like gamer posture right now? Christian? Yes. Yes. This was probably before my multiple video game tattoos. Yeah. But it was, I don't know, something about my vibe,

I guess, just gave off like, he plays a lot of Call of Duty. Yeah. What did you say? Did you say yes? I guess she was interested. I just laughed like a squad up I laughed and I was like, I'm a more of a Smash Bros game But then now but now thinking about I was like no I didn't want to

I should have said something with smash in the title, but oh, that's just the first video game that came up in that Was an accidental pickup-up line. Good stuff. You into Smash? I mean Jigglypuff. I mean Wii Fit Lady. Sure. She's great.

Wii Fit trainer. She does a lot of stretches. Do you think she, do you think it was a situation where she wanted to talk Call of Duty with you or is that one of her lines, you know, she's like, if I can, you know, find some guy. Gotta hook him.

Yeah, exactly. Do you, which one do you think it was? If I have to guess, it's probably the, I gotta reel this guy in and what's the like. Sure, what is it, like they made a list of generic man things. Yeah. Yeah.

She's looking at you. Do you like IPAs? She's getting a read. She's saying, I'm not sure if he likes girls, but he definitely likes Call of Duty. Oh lordy. Yeah. I feel like that is a cultural category as much as anything else, right?

Call of Duty, like, that is a very particular, and you're not, I mean, I could see reading Christian as a gamer, but I don't see, I would not have, I was surprised earlier when you said Call of Duty. I actually would too, I'm surprised too. Yeah, I give off more Elden Ring vibes or something. Sure, well, let's go back to Smash Brothers. Yeah.

Christian is Smash Brothers, honestly. Yeah. I like Call of Duty, it's cool, man. No, no, no. I bet you are also, you know, a guy, as a guy who's a little younger than us, you probably just grew up with Call of Duty. Like, I remember when it became a thing,

and I got to like consider whether or not to get into it, but it was probably just always a video game. Yeah, it was always there, baby. It was, I was there at the midnight releases for some of them when I was in college. There was guys in front of us that were smoking Gukas in front of the GameStop. Hell yeah.

Wow, who could a GameStop, huh, brought your hookah to GameStop huh? Yeah, I wanted to beat those kids up real bad but... Yeah those nerds. You're giving us a bad name. Oh those fucking nerds that got there 15 minutes before we did. At this midnight release. And they brought drugs. They probably have Nintendo 64 Nintendo powers.

They're gonna get the last Steelbook. I also love Call of Duty, by the way. Oh yeah? I don't give off, do I give off Call of Duty vibes? Well you mean in this- A little more than Christian. What does that mean? Although I would say, I would say less so in the sense

that you host a successful anti-war podcast. Yeah, well listen, I have to laugh and speak. We all contain multitudes. I have to laugh and speak. It is a war simulator game. Yeah, but it's mostly just, honestly, what I do is I listen to anti-war books while I play. You're just shaking your head.

And I'm just like, war is hell. Nah. You know who's super, I feel like Call of Duty, the things they carried. You know who's super into Call of Duty though? I don't know if he... Gnome Chomsky. Chomsky is really... He's fucking nuts about it. Good for him, man. I would love to play... You know what? If he's in FaZe Clan, I will join FaZe Clan. That's why they call headshots Chompskis. Oh man!

Killing spree. My manufacturing consent. The banality of evil. Oh man. You guys want to take a break? Yeah. Let's take a break. Can I just say, Christian doesn't seem like a Smash

Brothers guy to me. No, yeah? Golden T, all the way. Golden, yeah, right. Big buck hunter. Games and bars. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan Jesse Gubbs. La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la. Hello, sleepyheads.

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You can't really know if your own show is any good. So I asked my kids about ours. Is Jordan and Jesse Go a good show? No, definitely not. It's really bad. I would say out of 10, maybe like a four out of 10. It's just really boring. Yeah, zero.

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Fuckin' hate, fuckin' vaporwave. Jesse hates Fuckin' hate. Fuckin' vaporwave. Jesse hates vaporwave. He's a fuckin' vaporwave people. You know why? He smokes more than he vapes. Was it playing in the background when your wife told you she was leaving? Honestly, she hadn't even told me yet,

so it's tough to find out. Oh, whoops! I'm out! Edit this part out! No. Sorry, whoops. I'm out, edit this part out. No. Sorry, he's not going to. No, there's just. It's not you, Jesse, she just wants other things.

Christian and I are both from the inner city. He's from here in Southern California, I'm from Northern California. And we're pledged to rival gangs. Oh. Jordan, Christian is in vapor wave. MS-13, baby. Oh, wait.

Yeah, we all know. Christian's in vapor wave. OK, fine, let's change the premise a little. Christian's in MS-13, they listen to Vaporwave. I'm in Norteño and we listen to Lo-Fi Beats you can study too. Oh. Oh.

Fun fact about MS-13, they were all metalheads when they started out. Whoa. Yes, the history of MS-13, they were metalheads. Fun fact about MS Paint? It's a great way to make a flyer for a lemonade stand. Oh, I love fun facts. Yeah, it's fun to have facts and save them.

Can I say something that happened to me on the subway yesterday? Oh, sure. It was just a little thing. I was going to Little Tokyo with my youngest child. My youngest child is really into anime and telling everyone that they love anime. Which animes?

They don't like One Piece. I was talking to Frankie. I think Frankie's into Jujutsu Kaisen, which I'm also kinda into. JJK. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. You gotta get them into that one. So that's what that's what one Stuart Wellington likes.

Stuart Wellington likes Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. OK, anyway, we were on the A train. Take the A train down there, the little Tokyo station. And there was someone I got us, how could I describe this? Was muttering discontentedly behind us? Yeah. Like a sort of continuous mutter, audible, but indistinguishable, but clearly not pleased.

And I'm like, I don't, you know, like, this is a lot, I don't wanna look back and whatever, or just riding lot, I don't wanna look back, or whatever. Or just riding along, riding along, and then it's quiet for a while. And then just me and my seven year old sitting there just here. Oh, my fucking titty hurt! Aw.

Felt so bad for a titty. Yeah, the titty. Yeah. Titties are sensitive. Yeah, titties are sensitive. Did you get any good anime stuff from Little Tokyo? Yeah, we got a fucking, shit.

Any busts, you get any busts? We got a figurine. It's, we went into this anime store and there's multiple anime stores there that are just called, they're all just called anime store or whatever. And we went into this one and it was just statues, floor to ceiling statues of animes.

And this, just the sweetest young woman. The characters from animes are called animaniacs. I asked if they had pinky in the brain and they rolled their eyes. Just rolled their eyes. The sweetest young woman came up to help us, 21 year old, 22 year old woman. And Frankie was yelling at me about, oh god, two different dragon balls come together to become a different dragon ball. Right, yes.

And so this poor woman and my seven year old, my seven year old yelling at me, this poor 21 year old woman, patiently trying to explain to me how two dragon balls become one, and it's like, no, not when, what's some Dragon Ball guys called? Vegeta and Goku.

There you go. Yeah, not when Goku and Gogeta come together. That's a Goku-Geta. Like, you're fucking listening to things because they're too far for Frankie to point at and Frankie's speech is a little difficult to understand for others. And me, when it's just two Japanese names

combined together into a made-up word. But we finally found this fucking statue. It cost $45 or something. And then I noticed that, like, from, like... from like, from like, 18 inches to six feet on these floor-to-ceiling shelves, seven feet, was Dragon Balls. And that, and then above that was just chicks

with giant tits. I was like, with giant tits. Uh-huh. I was like, I don't know. How many of those would you have for yourself? You guys want to do the rest of the show from the anime store? Fucking what a wild statue area at someone's home. Just like one of those beautiful statue gardens. Sure, but with?

Anime chicks with giant honkers. Big old honkers. one of those beautiful statue gardens. Sure, but with? Anime chicks with giant hunkers. Big ol' hunkers. That's what happens when you combine Dragon Balls. You get Big Naturals. Dragon boobs. There we go. What do they say when Dragon Balls say, Mecha Hai, Mecha Hai, Mecha Hai, you know?

You're thinking of Jambi, I believe, the original Dragon Ball. See the big naturals on that guy. Anyway. What are we talking about? One time I said that, Frankie, like, Dragon Ball Z, they got so mad at me for saying, because Dragon Ball is the original Dragon Ball.

Dragon Ball Z comes after. Well, you fucked up. Yeah, I fucked up big time. How dare you fuck up? Yeah Well, we're all a bunch of fuck-ups. Should we just end the show in disgrace. It's just me Matt's doing great He's got his anti-war podcast things are going good over here, but you know I You guys are good Christians got primer going that's a podcast. Everyone should listen to it Jordan You're gonna get a son one of these days

You know, you got to take action Jordan that's true Right, you got to do your part. That's true put in the work. I have to find some viable sperm I have to find some viable sperm. Help me. Christian, Primer is available right now, would you say, on all platforms? On all platforms. Wow. Except for Google Podcasts, because that doesn't exist anymore. But go check it out. Primer's a good stuff, man. We've been talking about City Pop and

with great people. We got good. Yeah. Who was the first, who was the most fun person to talk to? I don't think it was probably Devendra Banhart. No, Devendra Banhart was fun though. Oh yeah. Cool guy. Okay.

I'm glad to hear that. But, um, probably my personal favorite, um, hasn't come up yet, but here's a little sneak peek for the listeners. Sneak peek. Wyatt Cenac. Why Cenac was very funny. George W. Fudd.

He loves vapor wave. Loves vapor wave and little patents. Wait, Wyatt Sinak's into City Pop? Yeah, yeah. Cool. Back in the day, we're back in the day. And in 2020 when everything was in quarantine, he would do like Instagram lives of like record happy hour or whatever.

And then he was just playing random ass records like just on Instagram live. They're all gone. They're gone at this point but that's how I kind of learned that he'd liked wild genres and also I'm just I just like him cool tell you this he also wrote for King of the Hill yes and I talked to him about King of the Hill we had to cut it out because it didn't fit in the episode. Yeah, it didn't have anything to do with... It had nothing to do with... Total diversion. But we talked about Yaoi, which we had to cut out.

Maybe we'll make it a bonus thing, because it was a really interesting conversation. He was talking about Neon Genesis, Evangelion, and whatnot. It was good stuff. It was good stuff. How are the naturals in that, by the way? Pretty big. Pretty big. Pretty big. Pretty big.

Yeah, pretty large. But yeah, we have cool people. We had Dame Funk on this last week. He is great, real nerd about production styles and stuff. We really got into drum machine stuff, which I mean. Yeah, if you want to talk about the way a particular, the specific sonic qualities of a particular piece of equipment, Dame Funk is your man.

And bringing it all back to video games, he did all the music for, or not all of it, but he did a big chunk of music for Grand Theft Auto Online. Ah. So if you're in a car, chilling in the car, the little like music, not music, obviously not the stuff on the radio, but the stuff that you listen to when you're like... So he didn't write Mother by Danza.

Not to my knowledge, but I don't know. Maybe he is a ghostwriter. Devendra Banhart wrote that. Oh, cool. But anyways, primer, great stuff. I hope you like it. It's a real fun time. Let's send people.

OK, so we didn't really even say what city pop is. So city pop is like this. It's sort of like halfway between sophisticated R&B, a sort of like light FM pop music and like jazz fusion. I would say sort of Steely Dan adjacent. Yeah, that's a great description. Because it's like a bunch of jazz fusion nerds

who are very good at jazz fusion nerding and musicianship making very digestible, I guess, music. Not digestible in like a, not in a bad way, but like very like listenable stuff you can hear on the radio and stuff. But you know, also city pop is a huge genre. It's not even a genre. It's just a, it's just a, it's a vibe, baby. I'm into emo rectal drill while I enjoy city pop.

You know, there's the emo rectal drill. O's a lot of it's inspiration. Like it's a lot of city pop. Yeah, Yellow Magic Orchestra kind of pioneered the emo rectal drill sound. It's really pretty crazy. You gotta listen to Primer. OK, everybody go listen to Primer.

Christian and company have been working on this for actual years, this show. So go listen to it, support it if you like it. Cause this is our, this is the first seasonal show we've ever put out for maximum fun. So we're doing fundraising a little differently. Yeah, doing fundraising a little bit differently. So we're very proud of it.

So I hope everybody will go check it out. Okay, what's one record that people should listen to? I got a Yellow Magic Orchestra record. I like that a lot. That's cool. Well, going back to Dane Funk, Awakenings by Hiroshi Sato featuring Wendy Matthews. Very good record. But if you want to listen to one song and get like a good vibe,

or get a good idea of what you're going to be into, Mayonaka no Door, slash stay with me. Just search up stay with me, City Pop. Stay with me by Miki Matsubara. That's the first episode. And it's a fucking banger, bro. It's so good. It's so good. It's really good. It's one of episode and it's a fucking banger, bro. It's so good. It's so good. It's really good.

It's one of my favorite songs. I have like my favorite pop songs I've ever heard, honestly. And if you like that, listen to the first episode. We really get into the to that song in particular. It's got that quality of like Never Too Much by Luther Vandross, where when you're listening to it, you feel like you could probably fly. Sorry. Yeah, I could probably fly. I could probably. I'm so, and you could fly

because you're feeling so chill. You're like, ready to go, yeah, sure. Not even flying, you're like gliding, you know? You're just like, yeah, let's do it, let's go. I don't need to pump my wings. Let's just lift off. Let's lift the fuck off. Anyway, that's all I gotta say about that, Jordan. That's beautiful.

You have fun watching Fishbone? Oh. OK, guess who's still got it? Fishbone. Honestly, Jordan, if you were going to make a list of what five acts do you think still got it? Mm-hmm. 50 and over category?

Yeah. Anyone who doesn't put Fishbone on that list is a fucking idiot. Fools, fucking fools, yes. Of course Fishbone's still out. Of all the, if I think of every music act, Dexys, Midnight Runners, Sure, yes. The Rolling Stones.

These are all the music acts. Any music act over 50, Natalie Cole. And I think who's still got it? Fucking Fishbone is at the top of the list. They wouldn't let up. No, they don't. And they have not. And yeah, they got a couple new members.

Guess who's having a great fucking time being in Fishbone? The new guys. I'm going to say John Mayer? Yeah, the Grateful Dead. And then he's like, I think I fixed the Grateful Dead. Now I'm going to move on. Now he's in Fishman. Dexie's going to be in Dexie's Midnight Runners.

Sure, John Mayer just going from band to band, fixing what's wrong. Yeah, they're great. If you ever get a chance to see them, they're geniuses. They're amazing. Well, I'll bet they'd have a great cover of Jackie Wilson said, not unlike Dexie's Midnight Runners. Sure.

Only one way to find out. OK. Jordan Jesse Goh, produced by Matt Lieb. Our producer emeritus is Brian Sonny D. Fernandez. Wait until you see this. I've been texting with Brian Fernandez on this Judge John Hodgman project. Ooh.

We're making Pasadena Goth Club t-shirts. Hey, okay. Nice. We're making one black and white and one pastel. So we're gonna see which one wins. You were talking about Pasadena Goth Clubs on Judge John Hodgman? Yeah. Oh, wow.

We created a Pasadena Goth Club. Amazing. The pastel one is gonna have like, the Rose Bowl and Pine Burger and Colorado Street Bridge and stuff on it with Pasadena Goth Club and sort of Rose Bowl font. And then the other one's just gonna be super metal. Great, nice. We'll see which one wins. Sounds beautiful.

We'll see which one gets more votes, Jordan. Gotta vote for a shirt. Yeah, maxfundstore.com. We'll find out. Yeah, our theme music is Love You by The Free Design, courtesy of The Free Design and Light in the Attic Records, where Christian's co-host on season one of Primer works sometimes.

Yeah, he put together the City Pop compilations. You might have heard of them. They're called Pacific Breeze. So if you want a primer on primer, go check out the Pacific Breeze comps. They're real good. Find us on social media, maximumfun.reddit.com, facebook.com slash jordanjessego

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