Jordan, Jesse, GO! - Don’t Stop For The Elf, with Marc Maron
Episode Date: September 19, 2024This week, we welcome back comedian and podcaster, Marc Maron (WTF), to chat about jorts, regional superstars, road trips, getting high with clowns, his new album, From Bleak To Dark (on vinyl courtes...y of Craft Recordings!), and so much more.Latest Marc Maron tour dates! Get From Bleak To Dark via Craft Recordings!This week’s sponsor, Wildgrain:For a limited time, you can get $30 off the first box - PLUS free Croissants in every box - when you go to Wildgrain.com/JJGO to start your subscription.You heard me - free Croissants in every box - and $30 off your first box when you go to Wildgrain dot com slash JJGO.That’s Wildgrain.com/JJGO, or you can use promo code JJGO at checkout. Follow the podcast on Instagram and send us your dank memes!Jordan Morris is doing a book tour for Youth Group! See Jordan at Baltimore Comic-Con, September 20th - 22nd! Come see Judge John Hodgman: Road Court live in a town near you! Jesse and John will be all over the country so don't miss your change to see them. Check the events page to find out where!Follow brand new producer, Steven Ray Morris, on Instagram.
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Give a little time for the child within you.
Don't be afraid to be young and free.
Undo the locks and throw away the keys and take off your shoes and socks and run you.
It's Jordan Jesse Goh.
I'm Jesse Thorne, America's Radio Sweetheart.
Jordan Morris.
Boy, detective.
First of all, Jordan, I got a note from JD Power and Associates that we need to address.
Oh, sure.
Yeah.
A few weeks ago on this program, Ken Bone came up. Yes. Ken Bone, of course,
the famous sweater wearing centrist.
Meme guy.
Who wanted everyone to get along in the election.
Yeah. Yeah. On Jordan and Jessica, we like to cover the hottest topics of 2016.
Yeah.
So, Ken Bone came up and you mentioned, and you were absolutely correct, that when he
became a celebrated meme, people found his Reddit account, then found some of his past
posts and some of his comments on a pregnancy themed pornography
subreddit.
And you said that he had complimented
the nude pregnant women as being beautiful human balloons.
I'm glad we're going back to this, by the way.
Let's really unpack this.
Well, here's the thing.
I'm just asking the audience, do you want a six-part mini
series on this? Just where we're driving around in the cars with talking to our producer. Yeah
Here is
Here's the correction though. And again on Jordan Jesse go
Please do not direct your corrections to us direct them to JD Power and associates at JD Power on Twitter
They care about quality. Yeah, they care about quality qualities job one over there at JD Power
But but this was the update you are incorrect They care about quality. Yeah, they care about quality. Quality's job one over there at JD Power.
But this was the update.
You are incorrect.
Oh, no.
He did not say that they were beautiful human balloons.
OK.
He said they were beautiful human submarines.
Wow.
OK, well, good thing I have this ready in my notes app.
I'm just going to read my apology.
Jordan, now, obviously, Jordan, if you think that they're beautiful human balloons, that's
fine. I think all humans are beautiful. Be they balloons, submarines.
Oh boy. Yeah, so I just want to apologize first to Ken Bone. I hope you're out there
and I hope you haven't become some sort of bad take machine in the interim.
No.
Can I just say this?
Yeah.
Sup, KB?
Hey, KB.
Yeah.
Still got that sweater?
Probably.
Yeah, worth poppin', buddy.
Sure.
So yeah, I'm sorry I misrepresented your interest in pregnancy porn, and I want to just say
that I am sorry to all the proud pregnant sex workers out there.
Sex work is real work.
Pregnant sex work is real
pregnant work.
That's a good point.
And, you know, I guess what Ken Bone was saying is that you can breathe underwater?
Yeah.
And if I missed the fact that pregnant pornography models can breathe underwater, I am sorry.
Can I say this?
Yeah.
In a few weeks, my daughter
Scarlett and I are going to San Diego. We're going to go to a baseball game, go to San
Diego Zoo. It's going to be a lot of fun. It's going to be a blast. We're going to go
on that submarine that they have there. Would you like me to apologize to the submarine?
Yes, please. Apologize to the submarine. Apologize. You know what? Hey, if you're out there, Navy, all our boys at sea,
from here to Tripoli.
And all our girls at sea,
from here to something that rhymes with Tripoli.
Yes.
All our non-binary persons at sea.
Everybody, everybody out there at sea.
And indeed to the sea itself.
Yes, I apologize to the sea.
The foamy deep.
Yes.
The great foamy deep.
I will soon, as penance, I will fill my pocket with rocks
and walk into you and let you claim me as an apology.
To all thy whales, be you toothed or baleen,
we offer our greatest apologies.
Sorry to whales.
Sorry to balloons.
Anybody else?
Anybody else mad? I think everybody else is pretty chill. Oh, sorry to balloons. Anybody else? Anybody else mad?
I think everybody else is pretty chill.
Oh good.
Okay.
Well, yeah.
2024 people are feeling great.
Yeah.
Everybody is just...
Everything is just water off a duck's back in 2024.
Chill as the day is long.
Anyway, thanks to the folks who let JD Power and Associates know about that.
We really appreciate that.
We really appreciate the opportunity to make things right with KB, the founder of KB Toys.
Our guest on the program this week, an old pal of ours, legendary standup comic, a world-beating
podcaster with the podcast WTF. The brand new record album of his most recent special from Bleak to Dark is out now.
Mark Merritt.
What's up, fellas?
Hi, Mark.
Hi, pal.
I'm out to sea.
Yeah?
You could.
What's your favorite part about seafaring, Mark?
If you could, you can have a top three.
Well, I'm one of those not so rare individuals
that's just out to sea in bed.
Okay.
You know, I don't have to travel.
I can get out there pretty easily.
I do feel like, Mark, if you wanted to use the heat
in your career to get a rhyme
of the ancient Mariner thing going, you probably could.
Maybe not in film, but at least in prestige television.
Oh, I'd have to overcome seasickness. my paralyzing fear of water that I can't see the
bottom of. Oh, I hate it. I hate it. It's too infinite. When you're out there just treading
water and you can't even feel the gross, weird algae covered rocks underneath you,
who knows what's under there. So you're not a trench guy is what you're saying.
No, no. I'm not a trench guy. No you're saying? No, no. Not a trench guy.
No, I'm not going to.
No cave diving for me.
Not for me.
And I was relieved a bit to see that Jesse have a reasonable amount of facial hair.
But, yeah, and you seem to have Jordan, you've gotten his excess.
I've gotten beardier since the last time we talked.
But with you, man, every time I see you,
I'm like, what's he doing with his face?
And it was refreshing.
Like, oh, look, he can see his face and his lips even.
You can see most of his lips.
I mean, those are some beautiful kissers.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, there was a while there where I'm like...
Come over here, Ken Bowen.
I don't like them anymore. I knew whatever you were doing was groomed. But intentional. It was still a lot.
Yeah. And it's nice to see you. It's nice to see you too. Thank you. Mark, how long have you been a beard guy?
Oh, I don't love the whole beard. This configuration was, I had to do this for the show
I'm working on. Like a lot of times I'll grow a full beard going into a project
in order so they can make choices about my face.
But in terms of the goatee, the soul patch and the mustache,
it's a good question. I don't know when that started,
but it was going on about the beginning of the podcast.
I started that. Before that, there was no beard. I've gone
through times where it seems like the last two specials before this one were fully bearded
only because I had to be in Joe Swamberg's series, the easy series. That character that I recurring
had a beard. I didn't want to be on specials with a beard, but I was because I was committed to showing up
for the Swamberg show that no one saw.
So to be in show business is to have other people
make your face choices.
You should, and hair choices, because it's easier.
But so this configuration, I don't think I've ever really
had this, what do you call this, a Van Dyke?
That's a Van Dyke, I think.
Classic Van Dyke.
Are you playing a jazz clarinet player?
No, I'm not.
Or a guy from 1997.
More of that, I think.
But this stays with those guys for a long time.
The Van Dyke is still popular with the guys from 1997.
I noticed the other day, I was looking at a Hall of Fame induction photograph of former
Colorado Rockies first baseman, Todd Helton.
He had this going?
Todd Helton, very handsome, very gray haired now,
looks like a million dollars,
and has had that facial hair configuration
since he debuted with the Rockies in 1994.
Pretty popular with guys that have no hair on the head.
This one, as opposed to full beard,
because the beard doesn't just go up to nothing
This way, you know, it looks tight. You know, I mean, yeah, but I have hair so I'm not
Those guys
Has a gorgeous both of you fuckers have beautiful. Yeah, that's true. What I look at Stephen Morris's fucking hair. Yeah, yeah
This is fucking hair. Yeah.
This asshole.
Fabio just walked in!
Come on!
Oh, come on!
Jesus Christ!
Really?
I'm on number zero with the club friend.
So that happened.
What's your hair?
Irish?
I think so, yeah.
I think the furthest back.
How about the rest of your eye?
Yes.
And all Switzerland from the hair down.
You're Swiss.
Yeah. Yeah, I think so Swisher. Pure Swiss. Yeah.
Yeah, I think so.
I've never done like a 23 and Me or anything,
but I think I think-
You haven't?
No, I haven't.
Why?
What are you afraid of?
Don't like spitting into an envelope.
Huh.
Yeah.
Really?
That's where you draw the line?
No, I don't know.
Maybe I should do it.
Have you done it?
I've done it.
Yeah.
Is it fun?
It's not fun.
It's fun to see what comes.
Like, I was really hoping for some Viking.
Yeah, I think that's what we're all hoping for.
I know I'm a pretty deep Jew, and I was just hoping maybe they came down into Poland and
someone got ahold of one of my great, great, great, great grandmothers and put a little
Viking in there.
Sure.
Because they did get down pretty far, the Vikings.
But no, I think I'm like 99% Ashkenaz, full Jew. The 1% I think
they just leave as wiggle room.
The 1% Viking is just because of the snooze.
I wish, yeah, the snooze. I'm so addicted to nicotine again. It's not good.
Oh yeah.
But I'm all right.
What is that? Is that a chewing tobacco?
No, it's non-tobacco pouches. Okay. And they're very popular with the right-wing contingent,
so I'm not proudly publicizing my addiction to Zyn.
Sure.
But I'm in it.
Okay.
And I've done, in my life, I've done all forms of nicotine, all kinds.
I was getting the real snooze from Sweden for a while back in the day.
Oh, okay.
You don't realize that.
My people.
Yeah, hundreds of different kinds of real snooze.
Stuff that will make you sweat.
Wow.
You know, and I would fall asleep within my mouth
and I'd do it in the morning and I'd have to lay down.
This one's, it's all right.
I'm not thrilled to be painfully addicted to anything,
but you know, if you got to pick one, this one seems okay.
You can do a few rodeos, why not?
Give it a try.
Well, that would be the real dip.
I don't think the rodeo guys probably look down on this,
but maybe not.
I don't know, maybe this is fully integrated.
This is more for a guy with a Van Dyke and no hair.
Sure, but also even with Van Dykes with hair.
But I do know that this is like picking up.
It's sort of like the chew equivalent of vaping.
It's kind of younger, more Gen Z.
Right, but they passed a law here in California where they can't do any flavored stuff because
it's too, they don't want the kids enticed.
So a lot of the Zins you can only get in LA have vague names like chill or smooth and
you can't really identify the flavor.
That's why you just roll it around in a little Nestle's quick. You could do. You could do.
But there's a couple of guys, a couple of bodega situations.
Soak it in strawberry milk.
Yeah.
A couple of bodega situations still get the flavored ones.
Okay.
Now we're talking.
Mark, I don't think I've ever seen you in shorts before.
I'm not afraid of shorts.
Yeah, they look great.
You guys are both your fucking hair boys, first of all.
A couple of beautiful heads of hair on you said the guy with hemmed shorts
Second of all both you guys both you guys
What are you guys doing summer boy jorts situations?
Jorts and I made these myself. Yeah, those are some I mean those were jeans. I did and now they're George
I did him. I think I might have went a little short. It's hard to know when you're cutting
No, hey the inseam mark the pit. How did I pick the inseam, Mark? How did I pick the inseam?
Yeah.
What was the consideration?
When you got those shears out, what
were you thinking about?
In terms of the length?
Yeah.
Well, I was thinking, like, I didn't want capri pants.
Right.
And I didn't want too long.
But I also didn't want, you know, 1972 beach dude, you
know, hot butt shorts.
Right.
You do have a hot butt, Mark.
My butt's holding up. I mean, if you got the hot butt, you might as, hot butt shorts. Right. You do have a hot butt, Mark. My butt's holding up.
I mean, if you got the hot butt,
you might as well get the shorts.
It's seeming that the butt's flattening.
And it's something I have no control over,
and I'm not gonna put a lot of work into the squats
to keep the bubble butt, but...
You gotta do those Beyoncé exercises.
I can't do it. I just gotta live
with pulling my pants up a lot.
Yeah.
Like, every pair of pants I get, they fit.
And then on stage I'm like, what is happening?
Like I got a girlfriend who's like, Mark, pants.
Because like most of my ass is showing.
And then people are like, well, isn't that kind of a style?
No, it's just old man ass problems.
But you know what?
I feel like that could be a lifestyle for you.
It is a lifestyle for me,
but it's not one that I'm like thinking of in the morning.
It's something that's happening by default that I live with.
I think you could lean into being a guy who like rubs the side of his face and goes, like
that and you do great at that.
Yeah, well, this was a it was an interesting moment I had in New York City recently.
I was going to buy an apartment there, you know, because that's sort of the dream when you're younger, a comedian or actor,
you like you want to do like New York, LA, want to have a place in New York and LA. So now I've got
some bread saved up and I had a lead on a good apartment right at 11th and 2nd. And I was-
That's the intersection, says me, a guy who's been to New York five times.
What's like, yeah, I mean, if you want to go to Times Square, the Empire State Building, you've got to be
at 11th and 2nd.
Sure.
I mean, well, what better place to walk in here?
You don't make it up that far if you're at 11th and 2nd.
This is East Village.
Mark, if you're at 11th and 2nd, you could go straight to the library, the New York Library,
New York Public Library.
But look out for King Kong.
Yeah. Oh. Hey, how about a hot dog, a glizzy? Have a glizzy. Have a glizzy. The library, the New York library, New York public library. But look out for King Kong.
Yeah.
Hey, how about a hot dog, a glizzy?
Have a glizzy.
Nope, nope.
If you're at 11th and 2nd and that's where you kind of, that's your neighborhood, you're
not going above 14th too often.
Okay.
That's what I always say.
Yeah.
I always say that.
Well, what happens is I had this vision in my head.
It's like, yeah, I'm getting old.
I want to be a New York old guy.
Oh, yeah. Because I'll go and do all those things I never did when I had this vision in my head. It's like, yeah, I'm getting old. I want to be a New York old guy. Oh, yeah.
Because I'll go and do all those things I never did when I lived there for over a decade.
Everything will change. It can be museums.
Gallery opening.
All that.
Opera.
There's no reason to believe that I would do any of that.
Sure. Yeah.
But I was locked into it and I'm well into the process of buying this apartment.
And I go visit New York for three days. And
I had this moment is that the coffee shop and Whole Foods there on Houston, and I'd
gotten some fruit at, you know, that's a great choice for a snack. I got some fruit. I think,
you know, and all I wanted was a cup to put my fruit in. Right. So I went to the coffee
shop and I'm like,
can I have a cup?
And she's like, well, you have to buy a coffee.
And I'm like, I just bought fruit.
Right next door, I bought fruit and I was livid.
And it's-
She had seen that Joe Swanberg show.
She would know that you deserve a cup.
Cause I didn't have the full beard.
So, but that was the situation.
And I got abnormally angry about it.
And I'm in New York and I'm having this moment where I can't get a cup for my fruit.
And it dawned on me that if I moved there as an old man, I'd be one of those old guys you just see
kind of like lurching down the street with a Strand book bag and a couple of other random plastic bags,
looking mad, talking to himself. And I'm like, that's not my future.
I don't know what that't know. Random plastic.
You really hit it with random plastic bag.
Yes.
Yeah.
Dwayne Reed.
What's in there?
Yeah.
More plastic bags a lot of times.
Why did they need it?
Who knows?
Yeah.
But I saw my future, and I turned back.
I haven't been to New York in a minute.
Looking forward to heading to New York for September 11. Judge John Hodgman at the City Winery.
Always be plugging.
Why that day?
That's kind of a loaded day.
Because they're helping people heal, Mark.
Healing with laughter.
Don't forget to get your tickets.
I have read in the New York Times.
I like to read the New York Times to learn about the events of the world.
Good for you. Sure. read in the New York Times. I like to read the New York Times to learn about the events of the world.
And I'm always awed in the New York Times
that they know where I live because of computers.
And they still want me to know about the lieutenant governor
of New York state.
Like, they have the technology to deliver me
things about Los Angeles or just only national
things.
No.
But they're, it's all whatever.
It's the New York Times.
Yeah, the Kathy Hochul content is really.
Sorry, they can't accommodate your Northern California sensibility.
I know more about Eric Adams than whoever is mayor of Los Angeles.
Anyway, one of the things that I read about
is that there is a big Dwayne Reed problem in New York City.
Anyone...
People stealing stuff?
No.
So anybody who's been to New York City
knows that all stores in New York City are Dwayne Reeds.
They're all...
Or Dunkin' Donuts.
Well, yeah, but your Dunkin' Donutses are largely...
That's more Boston.
It's a little further north east.
Yeah, maybe it's more Boston.
Yeah, more further north in New England. Okay, yeah. Yeah. So it's all... I'm a little further north. Yeah, maybe it's more Boston. Yeah, more further north than New England.
Okay, yeah.
So it's all...
I'm sorry.
Hold on, I can do another apology.
I'm sorry to New York.
I'm sorry to Ben Affleck.
Yeah.
J. Lo.
I'll be the divorce.
J. Lo.
Yeah.
I just want you both to heal and stay friends.
Well, they're in the middle.
Go ahead.
Can we recommend fruit?
Fruit and going to see Judge Hodgman at the City Winery.
What better to help with the healing?
We'll also be playing Boston, Brookline, Massachusetts.
Brookline.
Just a couple days after that.
So anyway, at Dwayne Reads in New York, a lot of them are going out of business because
drug stores are largely going out of business because people can get their prescriptions
online because labor is more expensive, because real estate is expensive, et cetera, et cetera.
There are fewer drug stores.
But these drug stores, they're national chains and they have like 20 and 30 year leases on
their storefronts.
So they will shut a store because whatever labor costs-
Because there's one across the street.
Yeah, exactly.
The same store.
But they still hold the lease.
And the landlord doesn't have any reason to find a new tenant
because Dwayne Reid can't just stop paying rent because they got too many.
It's too big of a company. They got to stay in business.
So more empty storefronts.
So just all of New York from what I've read in the New York Times, the newspaper of record,
it's just a bunch of closed Dwayne Reads.
Yeah, and I think Walgreens are going and I'm like, I'm a big Walgreens guy.
Oh yeah, that's your chain drugstore of choice.
Yeah, if I see that Walgreens sign when I'm on the road, I'm going to go in and even if
I got nothing to buy, and a lot of times what I like to do is just stand in front of the miniature section and just marvel at all the things that you can get small
and feel large.
Yeah, it's a weird habit.
Like the travel toiletries,
not like, cause I was picturing like a high end toy,
like an FAO Schwarz.
No, no, no, just like the small bottle,
the Listerine I use.
The tough one to find is the Cetaphil gentle foaming facial cleanser.
And when I come across those at a Walgreens, I'm going to buy two or three of them.
My day-to-day deodorant is a Mitchum.
I'm a Mitchum guy.
Wow, old school.
So I love a roll-on.
Yeah, love a roll-on.
But when I'm traveling, I get those little doves.
You can spritz, fits right in the bag, and it's got a little scent. I usually don't have stuff with a lot of scents but when I'm
traveling I like that little dove scent. No deodorant, never use it. Just a little
something for the folks in the window seat? Yeah, exactly.
I think body smell is better than deodorant. Really? Yeah. I haven't used
deodorant in years because it just doesn't work. Oh, no.
You know, and I'm really sensitive to fragrance. Some fragrances, I just...
You got to get yourself a Mitchum, my friend.
No, I can't do it. Like, and I'm a guy who has been wearing patchouli for probably 35 years.
Right.
That I don't even smell anymore. But when I walk into a room, people are like,
when does the music start?
Yeah.
You know? more. But when I walk into a room, people are like, when does the music start? Yeah. We also can't smell it. But it's just because we did four years at UC
Santa Cruz 20 years ago. Nose blind, patchouli, nose blind, incense.
Yeah, I'll tell you this. I had an amazing experience on the subway today.
I went downtown, our friend Noy Montes had a talk at the Central Library. And I
went to his talk.
What LA do you live in?
I know, right?
I live in Old Man, New York, LA.
I was on the library holding my last bookstore tote bag.
There you go.
A couple of random plastic bags.
So I'm on the subway, and the subway in Los Angeles since the pandemic has gotten very
colorful.
Black people are using it.
Yeah. There was a dude there sitting, it's great.
I love the subway.
There's a dude sitting there,
I thought he was in scrubs for a minute,
but he was actually wearing a scrubs colored,
like it wasn't a jumpsuit.
It was like, I guess you'd call it a leisure set.
Maybe like it was like a short sleeve camp shirt.
Yeah.
With exactly matching pants.
And he was wearing like-
But scrubs green?
Blue, scrubsy blue.
Oh, the blue scrubs, yeah, yeah.
Like a pale blue.
Sure, sure.
And he was wearing rectangular, no frame,
tinted eyeglasses with gold,, like E-40 would wear,
or like a storefront preacher would wear,
you know what I mean?
And a little hat, and he had a giant laptop bag.
Like a laptop bag, like a 19, like a Targus.
Like a Dell laptop?
Yeah, like a full-sized laptop with the little shoes.
You know how those bags have little shoes on them?
I can't picture the shoes.
Yeah, like they're little like,
like little like bumpy thingies on the bottom
so that if you wanted you could walk up.
The hard plastic bottom.
Yeah, okay.
But it's pleather, this thing is definitely pleather.
True.
And he goes into it and he pulls out
a full-size bottle of cologne, like an eight-ounce bottle
of cologne, and just starts fucking going to town right there on the subway.
I'm like, this man is amazing.
He puts it back, then he's sitting there for a little while.
Then he goes into the main container, reaches in, pulls out a full-size package of baby wipes.
I thought you were going corn on the cob.
Starts going to town.
But I'm talking about like four inches tall. You know what I mean? Like a full big thing,
like an economy size of wipes. He's wiping in, he's going, I'm like, this guy has an entire
drug store inside this laptop.
Well, you know, the Duane Reade's closed.
Yeah.
You gotta pick up the extra somewhere.
It was hit up that guy if he needed anything.
You're like, I need a tiny dove deodorant
and a book of crossword puzzles.
Just the smell of those two things,
just even you talking about whatever cologne it was,
and then the smell of those wipes. I'm triggered.
Yeah.
There's a, see, it's something though magical,
I think, about a Walgreens.
Love it.
Or a chain drug store in general.
Yeah.
I don't like Dwayne Reads.
Oh, really?
Don't love CVS.
Oh, okay.
Rite Aid's a little not great,
but there's something about Walgreens.
I think it's a sign, just that neon with the W.
And every time I see them, I'm like,
oh, I gotta go around to myself.
I have a lot of affection for Walgreens
because when I was a kid in my neighborhood,
when I was eight or nine, a Walgreens moved in
at 30th and Mission Street.
And that Walgreens was like my first connection to modern commerce, I guess you would say,
like the things that-
Like you could get anything there.
Like brightly lit.
30th and Mission in San Francisco?
Yeah.
Was it like by Petro a Hill?
More towards, more towards Bernal Heights.
Bernal Heights, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. And this Walgreens, which I believe is still there,
seemed like a miracle.
And my dad and I would walk there sometimes.
And we would, a few times, we bought those tins of butter cookies.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
They come in the little white paper trays.
There's the pretzel shape.
Uh huh.
There's square with sugar flecks.
With the little dent on the top.
The little dent.
Yes, on the square ones.
And none of the, well, I would disagree.
I think all the cookies are bad to eat.
Oh, I love those.
Oh yeah.
Any day of the week.
I love anything that comes in a tin. Yeah, because you I love those. Any day of the week.
I love anything that comes in a tin.
Yeah, because you can keep the tin for other little things.
That's right.
My sewing notions.
You can put your child things in there.
My collection of miscellaneous bags.
Marbles.
Oh, yeah, now you're talking.
Marbles.
Sure.
Couple trading cards, maybe a little plastic animal.
Forget-me-nots from your sweetie.
Sure. A lot of great things.
Pressed flower.
You guys wanna go through our memory tens,
feel nostalgic and think about death
and then come back for a little bit more?
We'll be back in just a second on Jordan, Jesse Goh.
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It is the Midwest swing of the Judge John Hodgman Road Court Tour.
It is a great time.
If you come out to one of those shows, we're going to have a blast.
I promise you that.
Will there be some guys from Rift Tracks there?
We haven't booked them, but they usually end up there.
Why?
Because they're the greatest. Sure. Because they're the greatest.
Yeah, we're going to have a good old time at those shows.
If you live in one of those places,
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They're a blast.
I've seen The Judge John Hodgman Show live many times.
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It's just a good old comedy show that is very funny
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And guess what? If you live in Los Angeles,
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And hey, if you are in the Baltimore area,
I am at Baltimore Comic-Con this weekend,
the 20th through the 22nd.
I'll be there in Artist's Alley. Table I-11, that's right. in the Baltimore area. I am at Baltimore Comic Con this weekend, the 20th through the 22nd.
I'll be there in Artist's Alley. Table I-11. That's right. I-11, the table to go to for the
most fun at the con. Who-11?
I. Me. Me-11. I-11. Of course.
It-me. I-11.
It-me. It-me. I-11. I will be selling books, signing books,
and, yeah, asking you where I should hang out in Baltimore,
where I might see John Waters.
Are you gonna go to that outsider art museum,
the visionary art museum in Baltimore?
Ooh, that sounds fun.
It's so fucking cool.
Okay.
Oh, it's just the best.
It's one of the best museums in the country.
It's so cool.
I would love to see that. There you go.
One good rec.
Yeah.
I'll need some more, though.
That's why you'll have to come see me.
Yeah. Recommend things.
And if you disagree with me, go tell Jordan why.
Yeah. Jesse's wrong.
Uh, we'll be back in just a second on Jordan andi Goh.
I'm Jessi Thorne, America's Radio Sweetheart.
Jordan Morris Boyd, Detective.
Mark Maron, comedian.
I love this, the reset.
It's been a while since I reset.
Yeah, it feels good, huh?
We're back.
It feels good.
I did have a weird flashback watching you guys do the intro live.
I had this weird flashback of San Francisco waiting the intro live. Uh huh. You know, I had this like weird flashback of San Francisco waiting for Alex
Bennett to stop talking.
He'd have like two or three comedians in there.
Folks, we're doing live 105 humor here on Jordan Jesse Goh.
You just have to sit there and wait for him to stop yammering about his stomach.
Like, I feel sick.
Anyone else feel sick?
I think I got a bug.
And like just three comics waiting to hop in. But you had to let Alex do the talking for the first 10 minutes
and you just sit there watching him whine about something, getting worked up about nothing.
People need to hear the beautiful human submarine content, Mark.
No, I liked it. The content was good. But it did have that weird moment of just watching a guy talk while you're waiting to talk.
Yeah.
It is a very-
Well, please know that we do feel a little rude when we do
it.
OK, good.
To be the person brought in, I worked on a morning radio
show in San Francisco on Live 105's sister station, Alice FM.
And on Alice, there was a team called Sarah and No Name.
Now, I believe Sarah's back working with Vinny Jordan.
So Sarah and Vinny is back.
Oh my God, spill the tea, what happened?
There!
I think Sarah and Vinny stopped working together.
No Name came in, but I believe No Name is back out
and Vinny is back.
Clearly they weren't committed to No Name.
Like, it is an odd tradition.
Like, there is the one thing which
is like comic who's playing the club that weekend is there.
That's a thing.
But there's also like morning show
that has comics that come in once or three times a month,
four times a month.
Like our friends Kevin Avery and W.
Kamau Bell were regulars on that show.
But also just like some various other San Francisco
comedians.
Yeah, it's such an odd thing for them,
professional funny people, to be visiting
this world of people who say things that are relatable but uncontroversial and an excited voice
Which is sort of the job of it's part of the gig
You know and like to this day being a radio guy or an x-radio guy
I if I walk into a morning radio
Situation and they're on it, it's great.
Because I did live morning radio for a year at Air America.
And the pace that you have to keep up, and I know as a guy who did morning radio, when
somebody walks in as a guest, especially a comic, all you're thinking is like, he's not
going to fuck us, is he?
Is he going to get on board here or are we we gonna have to deal with whatever his problem is,
or him not wanting to be there?
Or are you like, you know, pulling teeth
because he doesn't want to be funny
because he's been up all night?
So there is this like thing when you bring someone
into something that's moving, where you're like,
are you gonna get on board here, or are you gonna fuck us?
And I'm very aware of that.
So if there's a good morning crew,
there's a crew in Philly that's great,
I'll still go do morning and afternoon radio
because I like it if they're good
because there's nothing like that pace.
Like, and if you can play along.
It's madness.
It's great though.
I listen sometimes, once in a while,
I'll listen to like Big Boy in the Morning,
the big morning radio show out of LA on Hip Hop Station. And the number of voices, the clarity of what they're saying,
the pace and tone is all so off the charts that it feels like listening to Radiolab,
only you know that they didn't talk for an hour and then some editing genius turned it
into 40 seconds of interplay.
Like, it is people talking, in most cases,
probably actually live.
I think maybe some of big boys not live,
but like, but mostly actually live.
And you're like, I don't understand how anyone could,
just the part where you wait for the other person
to be done talking
then start talking immediately at 10 out of 10 intensity then stop clearly
enough that a third person can start talking. It's a symbiotic thing it's like
something that happens over years of working together and just kind of having
that moment and guys on radio because I'm an interrupter by nature and I'm
impatient and my co-host was like very aware of that after a certain point and And guys on radio, because I'm an interrupter by nature, and I'm impatient.
And my co-host was like very aware of that after a certain point.
And if they're radio veterans, I mean, they'll just figure out a way to stop.
In that moment.
But the vibe of it, when I used to do Morning Radio Man, we had to get up early because
we had to put together a new show too.
So I was getting up at like 2.30 in the morning to be at the studio at like four to
put together a show that went on at six. And I would bring a full large bag of M&Ms and
like two Dunkin Donuts coffees. So by the time we went on air, I was in, I was manic.
It was like, it was like just a dope.
So it wasn't Dunkin Donuts coffees and donuts. It was Dunkin Donuts, coffee and M&M's.
Pure sugar.
Okay.
I didn't want to mess with the donuts.
And we want to be weighted down.
Right.
Just chocolate, which gave me a little more caffeine
and Dunkin Donuts coffee.
And by the time the mics went on, I was like,
and just go.
Sure.
And then by the time nine o'clock came around,
I was like, done.
The thing that amazed me and watching that and again
I only worked there a couple months because I just couldn't do the getting up in the morning
I was getting a migraine every day from getting up. So oh, yeah, you can't live a regular life
I sacrifice a lot to do morning radio. I know it's totally bananas and
But like the thing that impressed me the most and they were the people that I worked for were very good at it
Yeah, very nice. I was not allowed to make eye contact with them. Really? That's true. But anyway, the
producers I was allowed to make eye contact with. What do you mean weren't allowed to
make eye contact? Like I wasn't allowed to interact with them at all. With the hosts?
With the hosts. Because they were working. Oh. I guess. Well, that's the other problem
with morning radio is if you were doing back in the day when radio was a thing, these guys who hosted who you didn't know were kind of regional superstars.
Oh, totally.
So they had the ego of a guy that was globally popular. And if they didn't vibe with you,
you're going to take a hit. They're going to bury you on purpose because they're threatened.
And that was a big thing, man.
Honestly, I went on the Kojo Namdi show on WAMU.
Kojo was like the call-in host on the big NPR station
in Washington, DC.
And this was seven years ago.
People will tell me about how excited they were then
to hear me on that show.
They will tell me this now. Like, I'll be in Washington, DC, and somebody will be like, about how excited they were then to hear me on that show.
They will tell me this now.
Like I'll be in Washington, DC and somebody will be like,
you know, I heard you on Kojo Namdi.
How did you get on Kojo Namdi?
I'm like, I mean, Kojo Namdi is great.
I live in Washington DC, wonderful host.
And I'm like, hey, I have a national NPR show.
I also am like, I think he's great too. Don't get me wrong, he's totally great.
But yeah, that is an amazing, but the thing that impressed me
the most about being able to do that is it's every day,
and like your show, Mark, was pretty topical.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So like you had a certain amount of like, you know, circling
newspaper articles that you could do between forms.
We had to do like real politics. But then as I evolved, when they made me the guy, it
was just talking about my life and about things that I observed. So it was a balance of politics
and me just, there was, I remember the moment that I figured out
and that, and also Brendan McDonald, my producer knew
that this was the medium for me.
It was, I remember what I was talking about.
I used to talk about these cats all the time
cause I trapped all these feral cats
and brought them into my apartment,
which was an ongoing story.
But there was this one time where I was trying
to cook lentils,
and I forgot about them.
And when I got to the pot, they had created this sort of like, almost like a tar.
And then I went off on this riff about primitive people
and what they might have used as adhesive.
And it was all based on, it was just this riff.
And it was at that moment, I'm like, I'm a fucking radio guy.
I can do this. I'll do radio guy. I can do this.
I'll do the traffic. I'll do the weather.
Bring it on.
The thing that was amazing to me about this show is, right,
this is like a station that was programmed towards,
like, young adult women going to work.
Like, let's say 25 to 45, that kind of window, you know, grown ups that still are pretty fun.
Right. But we got work to do today. Right. And so they could only talk about survivor.
Like, there was no other topic. Oh, sure. Like, they could only talk about something that would
bother no one. And that was universally relatable,
and that was almost exclusively Survivor,
but they also had to do three hours a day.
Well, that's why you find those refillable things
that never stop.
I mean, you gotta figure out a way to fill that airtime.
And if there's a TV show one of the guys gets obsessed with
that's ongoing, it's like, what a gift.
That's like the first four segments.
That's 45 minutes, man. I'm sure there's people who still know you as the lentil guy.
I don't know. I don't know about that. I got a lot of pushback on not talking politics all the time.
Well, this is important stuff, Mark. It was very... My lentil thing was very important,
and the cats were very important.
People remember the cats.
And, well, I mean, if you look at it, the lentil thing might have been a metaphor for
gerrymandering.
That's a really good point, Jordan.
Thank you. Thank you.
Plus, we got Robert Reich coming in here later, so...
Oh, yeah, to tell us about the end.
Former Secretary of Labor, Robert Reich.
There's a lot of that. Who are some lot of who were some of the other regular guests.
We did some stuff, though.
Kucinich, you ever have Kucinich?
Yeah, I think we did have Kucinich.
Did you know Kucinich was managing RFK Jr.'s campaign
until he got fired?
Oh my god, really?
That's over today.
I think it's over.
Oh, did he announce that it's as we were recording?
And he's supporting Trump.
Oh, wow.
OK, cool.
That sellout fraud lunatic.
Well, obviously, I have no position on this.
No, no, no.
But it is impressive news.
Yeah.
You would not be doing the show I was doing.
So anyway, when you make a lentil paste, Jordan, or something else momentous happens to you,
give us a call, 206-9844-FUN or send us a voice memo at jjgo at maximumfun.org for
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Someone call it in, let's play it out.
Hi, Jordan.
Hey, Jesse.
Hey, guest.
This is Danny from Ann Arbor, Michigan calling in for your segment, Dubious Life Choices.
So instead of finding a life partner
and starting a family like many of my peers
are doing right now, I decided to live in a van
and travel around the country.
And yeah, my lease on my apartment just ended today.
So this is my first day of vanning full time.
Maybe it'll be extremely fun. Maybe it'll be extremely fun.
Maybe it will be extremely miserable.
Only time will really tell.
But yeah, you know, wet as a river,
hard as a stone, get dressed today,
go punch a blimp, all that fun stuff.
Love you guys, bye.
Congratulations, Danny.
Yeah, what other things from 2020 will you be doing? I really pictured him at a payphone.
I like Jesse's fake radio guy energy going into the caller's kindergarten teacher energy.
It was a real...
Who do we got on the line?
Who do we...
Hi, this is Danny and I like fans.
I'm a really nice guy.
He's from Ann Arbor.
I don't think that's... Right from the beginning, I'm like, this story doesn't end great.
Oh, no. Are you worried about Danny? I'm a little worried about Danny. It sounds like...
I think Danny can do it. Are you picturing a ravine or a descent into madness?
I would go descent into madness. He sounded like relatively committed, but not optimistic.
It was just sort of like, I'm doing the van thing.
He was kind of resigned to it, wasn't he?
Yeah, and it's sort of like, what's he running from?
How far is he going to get?
Right, yeah.
I have a friend, like one of my best
buddies from middle school, who I'm still friends with.
He came out to visit in Los Angeles just recently. He lives in New
York. And I found out that he and his girlfriend had driven to LA from New York. And like when
we were 22 or 23, he drove across the country and back in his Toyota Corolla and like slept
in the car, like put curtains in and got a YMCA membership and stuff.
And like the fact that he was still exploring
that lifestyle in his early 40s really astonished me.
That like, that idea of driving for six hours
in one day as a hobby was breathtaking.
Yeah, it's sort of like, it puts you in a weird position.
You're like, wow, well, that's great.
Good for you, really.
That tone of like, are you okay?
Part of it, so I feel like there's a piece of it,
I don't know if this is the case with my friend, Adam.
I love Adam Katz, but there's a part of it
where you feel like it's an excitement about the
fact that you could be so at leisure that you could spend your day driving and not be
like, I wish I spent my day doing something else. I've done that drive a lot.
And I was a driver.
And even when I go on the road now,
if I'm doing dates in the Midwest,
I'll do the rent-a-car, do Chicago, Minneapolis, Milwaukee,
and do these runs.
And I like it.
I totally understand it.
I live the life of a comic.
So there is the idea
that that's going to be the only place I can really relax and think.
Is the Wisconsin Dells?
Sure. But just doing six to 12 hour drives. I remember when I left New York to go to San
Francisco after I hit the wall, I drove, I did a 21 hour run going into San Francisco.
Too many hours.
But it was crazy because you do get
into this hallucinatory place.
I just remember.
Which makes driving safer.
Totally.
But I just remember.
Your ultra alert.
Because you can see real threats and possible threats.
Yeah, yeah, you see things on the periphery
that might not be there.
You can hear the secret messages on the radio.
What's safer than knowing the future?
Don't stop for the elf.
Oh, yeah.
Never stop for the elf.
But there are those moments where you pull over to get gas
and you've got music going, and you're totally
insulated in this environment.
And when you get out of the car, you're like, I just landed.
I just landed from another place.
Mark, do you think you could do
hashtag van life like Danny did no because uh yeah I don't I don't like the the safety element
of being sleeping in a car I don't like the idea of being come upon sleeping in your car I feel
like if I had a if I had one of those adventure vans yeah I don't adventure van are we talking
like one of those silver things?
Like a sprinter, but maybe it's like a little lifted.
It's on like extra big tires.
Like the VW ones that pop up on top?
Yeah, but I'm talking about like probably a, like a, not a VW one.
Like a VW one, I would be worried that it would break.
I couldn't deal with that part of it.
A modern version of that.
What are those silver trailer campers,
you know, the ones that are all air stream? Yeah, air stream. I know if you told me that I got an
air stream out of this deal, I'm in in a second. I know I kind of I get it, you know what I mean,
but I don't love camping, you know, I don't love that not for very long, you know, eventually,
I like to stop somewhere, even if it's a shitty hotel. I like a hotel. My dad was a big motel guy.
We did a trip when I was like...
What does that mean? Like a family-owned kind of small thing?
No, he loved Motel 6.
This was before the internet.
We did a trip where we drove from...
He had gotten like an inheritance.
Like a big moment in my life at my dad's house
was he got this like $25,000 inheritance
from an aunt or something.
And that was like when we started doing
some middle-class shit.
We got a color TV, which we did not have previously.
This was in the early 90s.
We got a color TV, we got cable.
My dad got that cable service that like brought CD
quality music into your home. That was very exciting. We bought a two-year-old Honda Accord
wagon and we went-
I thought you were going to say kid.
Yeah. We bought a child.
And we went on this trip to, we went as far as Detroit and back. And on that trip, it was before the internet substantially,
and we had a book that listed where all the Motel 6s were.
And that was the plan.
The plan was just plan out where all the Motel 6s are.
Wow, that's wild, because we did the trip tick,
AAA trip tick.
Oh yeah, right.
I remember doing that in my life
before GPS or anything like that.
You go to AAA as a member, say where you were going, and they give you this flip book of
chunks of territory, where to stay, what to see, and you kind of just flip through it
and you can figure out which hotel you wanted.
It was like the greatest thing in the world.
I don't even know what AAA does anymore.
I think it's all about insurance.
They send you Westways, the best magazine that you can read.
Sure. Hold on. The best magazine you can read is Costco Connection.
That's true, Jesse. He was in Costco Connection recently. I'll concede and say it's maybe a little
bit better than Westways, but I love my Westways. You can register your car at AAA.
Yeah. You can also do a notary. Oh, they've got a notary at the AAA. You can do notary. You can renew your license. Oh, they've got a notary at the AAA. Yeah, you can do notary.
You can get the insurance.
They still have maps, I think, a few.
Discounted Halloween Horror Nights tickets for Universal Studios.
Oh, really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think there's a lot of things that you probably are the perks.
Oh, yeah.
I'm a big AAA guy.
I'm a big AAA guy.
I've used the notary service a lot, and I've renewed my license there, yeah.
I live in a neighborhood.
Renters insurance. Renters insurance. I have my renters insurance. I've used the notary service a lot and I've renewed my license area.
Renters insurance, I have my renters insurance. You do? From AAA? Yeah. That's good. I live in a neighborhood where
the only forms of business are
jumper rental and notary. So I have no worry about finding a notary. I don't have to go to the AAA. There's four notaries within walking distance at my house at all times.
Oh, good. So in case you got documents.
Yeah. If I need to prove that I rented a jumper. Bounce house rentals.
You guys want to price a few jumpers and then come back for some more?
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So we're talking about maps in the break.
Yeah.
That led, of course, you know, talking AAA,
you got to talk maps.
You got to talk maps.
You can still go into the AAA and get free maps,
because I did that recently.
I figured I should have a few maps of the area in my card,
just in case I'm ever lost in my phone dies or whatever.
You never know.
So I got a few maps.
You can get those maps.
Then we started talking about Thomas guides, the map books
that I only recently learned are not national.
I learned this because I brought them up on Judge John Hodgman,
and everyone stared at me like I was an insane person.
Totally LA thing. Yeah, totally LA thing.
Yeah.
So these were big sort of gridded, highly indexed map books of...
Right.
In order to get anywhere, you had to source the number and letter at the top of the last
map and go find it to continue your journey.
But that was like, you know, if you're driving, that's hard to do.
Yeah.
That's a challenge.
And why stop when you can fuck with a Thomas guide? I was a... Plus there's hard to do. Yeah, that's a challenge. Why stop when you can fuck with a Thomas Guide?
Plus there's an elf there, so do not stop.
Don't stop for the elf.
You've been up for 21 hours, you're trying to figure out the secret codes in the Thomas
Guide.
What you do is you cross-reference the grid with the Bible.
You go to Romans, three letters down.
So anyway, you'll learn when you're going to die.
Jordan became a map pro when he was working as a production
assistant, which he did for a number of years upon moving to
Los Angeles years ago. And Mark, I had no idea that you had also
worked as a production assistant.
When I first got out here after college, you know, I was living
in Culver City with Steve Brill, and I didn't know anything about
show business or how to get started. And were you living in his famous building? Not the Brill building. And he was not related.
It was just an apartment building that I think his uncle owned. You and Carole King.
Writing songs. I stepped right in. Weaver and Stoller at the piano, and I'm like,
where do I start? I wrote a couple of popular R&B hits that I don't get credit for. But yeah, so I got looped into the PA,
you know, someone's PA, you just call a friend if they know of any work. So I'm not a good PA,
but I get this job. Neither was I. I was fucking terrible. But oddly, I got in at the comedy store
because of a PA job. Okay. Mitzi Shore, who I auditioned for right when I got to LA,
was producing some sort of idea of like a comedy network.
She was doing all these sketches at the comedy store
with, and I got a job just by coincidence on that.
And I was able to go, you remember me?
And she's like, oh yeah, you're funny, be a doorman.
And that's how I started the comedy store.
But the PA job before that was at,
it was for a music video of children's songs,
and it was circus themed,
and it was shooting at the docked Circus Vargas.
When you say like a, when you say a music video,
you're talking about like a VHS tape
you would buy at the drug store kind of thing?
I believe that's what it was.
So they had all these kids,
and they were singing circus themed songs.
I don't remember what they were, but I knew I had to drive out to where the circus Vargas
was parked with all their stuff.
It was not up and doing.
So they had to set up the tents for this shoot and everything else.
So I'm there, the director's on blow.
It's like a full, there's kids everywhere and I'm watching stuff happening at the parking
lot of at this dock Circus Vargas.
I'm seeing like the dismembered horse meat that they got to feed the tigers.
It's better than if it had been membered.
It was intense because the crowning story was like I was working at this Circus Vargas all day
and there was a couple of clowns who were
the Circus Vargas clowns. And at the end of the day, they were like, do you want to come to the
trailer and get high? And I'm like, sure, man. With the clowns? Well, that's the thing. So like,
after, you know, they're cleaning up the set, and they tell me to come over to their trailer,
and I walk in and, you know, they're about to roll up some joints,
or we're going to pass a pipe around.
I had this moment where I was like,
can you guys just take the makeup first?
Take off the makeup.
Because I don't know if I can handle
the getting high with the clowns in the makeup.
Just take off the makeup.
You can keep the shoes if you need to.
Yeah, but I can't do them. I'm not going to be able to handle it.
Sure.
You just start to get paranoid.
You hear that flap flapping of those giant shoes behind you.
Blonk, blonk, the little horn.
And then you and all 25 guys are going to pile in one car
and go to Burger King.
Yeah, high.
Yeah.
Well, Mark, it's always so great to see you.
And you knew Jordan and I were talking before the show about,
I told you this already, but I'm going to tell you on the air so everyone at home can hear.
We were talking about how great the album is
and how great the special is.
Oh, thank you.
And you're just really, you know,
people we don't need to explain to comedy podcast fans
that Mark Marin is talented.
But you're really amazing at your job, Mark.
I appreciate that.
And it's really great to get to hear the record
and see the special.
And I hope everybody will run out and buy the album.
And I put a lot of thought into the cover.
Yeah, I did want to ask you about the cover.
It's you with a face wound?
Well, you know, is this like an Andrew W.K. situation?
That's what I was wondering.
I mean, I guess that's a reference
to people who buy records.
But I realized a long time ago that most comedy records, they don't stand the test
of time really because people don't listen to them a lot.
And on the cover, every comic, for as long as there've been
comedy records, make bad decisions about what a funny cover
would be.
And if they're from the 80s, you're not wearing-
Or their photographer makes the bad decision for them.
Whatever the case, you're always doing something silly,
you're wearing doing something silly.
You're wearing an outfit from whatever time
that the record was made.
Someone has handed you a rubber chicken.
But yeah, this idea of being funny.
There's only one great comedy album cover.
Some of the older ones are great, but Red Fox did one.
I think it was called You Gotta Wash Your Ass.
And it's just a horse's ass.
And I think that stands to testify.
Sure, that's fun. Sure.
That's a classic. Solid. And I think that stands to testify. Sure.
That's a classic.
Solid.
No notes.
They're very barrage, supple.
Yeah.
But I didn't want to do a cover that would date itself.
So that day, the day that I injured my face,
I hike up the mountain in Glendale behind the Brand Library.
I used to do it like two or three times a week.
And at the top of that hike, I always do these two stretches where it kind of squat
and stretch and I stand up quickly into a full body stretch.
And it's after a pretty massive hike,
about an hour up the hill.
And for years, every time I did the full body stretch,
I'd get lightheaded.
And I think to myself, it's amazing I haven't passed out.
And that day I blacked out.
I was at the top of the hill.
I did that stretch.
I was alone and I went down.ed out. I was at the top of the hill. I did that stretch.
I was alone.
And I went down.
Wow.
And I was gone.
And I woke up.
My face was on the ground.
I was bleeding.
And I kind of put together what happened.
But I was really kind of frat.
What's the word I want? disassociated.
Because I passed out.
But it was at that moment, I'm like, I got to a selfie. So I took the selfie and that's the picture.
Wow.
See, this is millennials.
They're always obsessed with selfies.
Yeah, they're always in their little phone.
So happy I have the phone.
Oh, their dopamine hit.
Thank you, Jeff Bezos.
But very happy I got the cover from that.
It's gorgeous.
It's very cool.
Thank you.
I think it's, because I know that people
don't necessarily listen to vinyl, but that's a classic cover.
I listened to the album on vinyl.
Well, how's it play?
It's great. It sounds amazing. I just like, laid on my couch.
That's great.
Pretended like I was in a dorm room in 1979.
Well, that was the thing, man, with comedy records. You had to have a brother or a group
of friends or you're like, you guys gotta hear this. You just sit around that record
player waiting. It was fun. I felt super present. friends, or you're like, you guys gotta hear this. You just sit around that record player, waiting.
It was fun, I felt super present.
Well, thank you.
I was just enjoying it.
It is like fucking hilarious.
It's a really great album.
It took a lot of work, that one,
to put that together with the depth necessary
to pull off some of those bits around a very painful time.
And I think it was, it took, it was,
it's a lot of work on that one. I can tell, it took, it was, it was, it's a lot of work on that one.
I can tell. It shows. It really shows. It's a, it's, it's, it's one of the, one of the best comedy
specials I've heard in a long, long time. And I think everyone should check it out.
I'm imagining all of the pictures of you with blood coming out of your face on one of those
big light tables and you holding a grease pencil and like circling.
Getting down on the negatives.
Yeah.
The little eyeglass. on the negatives. Yeah.
The little eyeglass.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, Mark Maron, he's the host of WTF, the brand new record, in stores now.
Go buy it on LP.
That's long playing vinyl album.
From Kraft Recordings.
Great label.
From Kraft Recordings.
Our thanks to them.
They sent me a nice email.
I said, well, Mark should come back on Jordan Jesseco sometime soon.
And here you are. Here we are. We did it. Yatskin it. You I said, well, Mark should come back on Jordan. Jesse goes sometime soon. And here you are
We did it. Yeah, it's been too long. You're always welcome here mark. Our producer is Stephen Ray Morris our producer Marius Brian Sunday D Fernandez find us on
Instagram at Jordan. Jesse go pod. Is that correct? Jordan?
Jesse go pod Jordan. Jesse go pod Stephen. Have there been any dank memes posted on that Instagram lately?
There was a great one.
Oh, the Verdugo Aquatic Pool.
Aquatic Center.
Yes.
Aquatic Center.
Pardon me.
Pardon me.
That one was really fun.
Yeah, there was a really good Verdugo Aquatic Center meme.
I just posted a very nice meme that a listener made of a girlfriend who's very sad and she's
saying you're just saying
a bunch of nonsense words that don't make any sense. And then the boyfriend says, full
short.
There you go. These are memes everyone can enjoy.
If they follow us on Instagram, at Jordan David Morris, is Jordan at Jesse Thorne very
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Send your dank memes to Steven on Instagram post them on the reddit. I love these memes. These are great memes
We're gonna get elected president like Donald Trump in 2016 based on the strength of these memes
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