Jordan, Jesse, GO! - Don’t Stop For The Elf, with Marc Maron

Episode Date: September 19, 2024

This week, we welcome back comedian and podcaster, Marc Maron (WTF), to chat about jorts, regional superstars, road trips, getting high with clowns, his new album, From Bleak To Dark (on vinyl courtes...y of Craft Recordings!), and so much more.Latest Marc Maron tour dates! Get From Bleak To Dark via Craft Recordings!This week’s sponsor, Wildgrain:For a limited time, you can get $30 off the first box - PLUS free Croissants in every box - when you go to Wildgrain.com/JJGO to start your subscription.You heard me - free Croissants in every box - and $30 off your first box when you go to Wildgrain dot com slash JJGO.That’s Wildgrain.com/JJGO, or you can use promo code JJGO at checkout. Follow the podcast on Instagram and send us your dank memes!Jordan Morris is doing a book tour for Youth Group! See Jordan at Baltimore Comic-Con, September 20th - 22nd! Come see Judge John Hodgman: Road Court  live in a town near you! Jesse and John will be all over the country so don't miss your change to see them. Check the events page to find out where!Follow brand new producer, Steven Ray Morris, on Instagram.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Give a little time for the child within you. Don't be afraid to be young and free. Undo the locks and throw away the keys and take off your shoes and socks and run you. It's Jordan Jesse Goh. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris. Boy, detective. First of all, Jordan, I got a note from JD Power and Associates that we need to address.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Oh, sure. Yeah. A few weeks ago on this program, Ken Bone came up. Yes. Ken Bone, of course, the famous sweater wearing centrist. Meme guy. Who wanted everyone to get along in the election. Yeah. Yeah. On Jordan and Jessica, we like to cover the hottest topics of 2016. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:46 So, Ken Bone came up and you mentioned, and you were absolutely correct, that when he became a celebrated meme, people found his Reddit account, then found some of his past posts and some of his comments on a pregnancy themed pornography subreddit. And you said that he had complimented the nude pregnant women as being beautiful human balloons. I'm glad we're going back to this, by the way. Let's really unpack this.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Well, here's the thing. I'm just asking the audience, do you want a six-part mini series on this? Just where we're driving around in the cars with talking to our producer. Yeah Here is Here's the correction though. And again on Jordan Jesse go Please do not direct your corrections to us direct them to JD Power and associates at JD Power on Twitter They care about quality. Yeah, they care about quality qualities job one over there at JD Power But but this was the update you are incorrect They care about quality. Yeah, they care about quality. Quality's job one over there at JD Power.
Starting point is 00:01:45 But this was the update. You are incorrect. Oh, no. He did not say that they were beautiful human balloons. OK. He said they were beautiful human submarines. Wow. OK, well, good thing I have this ready in my notes app.
Starting point is 00:02:00 I'm just going to read my apology. Jordan, now, obviously, Jordan, if you think that they're beautiful human balloons, that's fine. I think all humans are beautiful. Be they balloons, submarines. Oh boy. Yeah, so I just want to apologize first to Ken Bone. I hope you're out there and I hope you haven't become some sort of bad take machine in the interim. No. Can I just say this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Sup, KB? Hey, KB. Yeah. Still got that sweater? Probably. Yeah, worth poppin', buddy. Sure. So yeah, I'm sorry I misrepresented your interest in pregnancy porn, and I want to just say
Starting point is 00:02:38 that I am sorry to all the proud pregnant sex workers out there. Sex work is real work. Pregnant sex work is real pregnant work. That's a good point. And, you know, I guess what Ken Bone was saying is that you can breathe underwater? Yeah. And if I missed the fact that pregnant pornography models can breathe underwater, I am sorry.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Can I say this? Yeah. In a few weeks, my daughter Scarlett and I are going to San Diego. We're going to go to a baseball game, go to San Diego Zoo. It's going to be a lot of fun. It's going to be a blast. We're going to go on that submarine that they have there. Would you like me to apologize to the submarine? Yes, please. Apologize to the submarine. Apologize. You know what? Hey, if you're out there, Navy, all our boys at sea, from here to Tripoli.
Starting point is 00:03:28 And all our girls at sea, from here to something that rhymes with Tripoli. Yes. All our non-binary persons at sea. Everybody, everybody out there at sea. And indeed to the sea itself. Yes, I apologize to the sea. The foamy deep.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Yes. The great foamy deep. I will soon, as penance, I will fill my pocket with rocks and walk into you and let you claim me as an apology. To all thy whales, be you toothed or baleen, we offer our greatest apologies. Sorry to whales. Sorry to balloons.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Anybody else? Anybody else mad? I think everybody else is pretty chill. Oh, sorry to balloons. Anybody else? Anybody else mad? I think everybody else is pretty chill. Oh good. Okay. Well, yeah. 2024 people are feeling great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Everybody is just... Everything is just water off a duck's back in 2024. Chill as the day is long. Anyway, thanks to the folks who let JD Power and Associates know about that. We really appreciate that. We really appreciate the opportunity to make things right with KB, the founder of KB Toys. Our guest on the program this week, an old pal of ours, legendary standup comic, a world-beating podcaster with the podcast WTF. The brand new record album of his most recent special from Bleak to Dark is out now.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Mark Merritt. What's up, fellas? Hi, Mark. Hi, pal. I'm out to sea. Yeah? You could. What's your favorite part about seafaring, Mark?
Starting point is 00:05:02 If you could, you can have a top three. Well, I'm one of those not so rare individuals that's just out to sea in bed. Okay. You know, I don't have to travel. I can get out there pretty easily. I do feel like, Mark, if you wanted to use the heat in your career to get a rhyme
Starting point is 00:05:18 of the ancient Mariner thing going, you probably could. Maybe not in film, but at least in prestige television. Oh, I'd have to overcome seasickness. my paralyzing fear of water that I can't see the bottom of. Oh, I hate it. I hate it. It's too infinite. When you're out there just treading water and you can't even feel the gross, weird algae covered rocks underneath you, who knows what's under there. So you're not a trench guy is what you're saying. No, no. I'm not a trench guy. No you're saying? No, no. Not a trench guy. No, I'm not going to.
Starting point is 00:05:46 No cave diving for me. Not for me. And I was relieved a bit to see that Jesse have a reasonable amount of facial hair. But, yeah, and you seem to have Jordan, you've gotten his excess. I've gotten beardier since the last time we talked. But with you, man, every time I see you, I'm like, what's he doing with his face? And it was refreshing.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Like, oh, look, he can see his face and his lips even. You can see most of his lips. I mean, those are some beautiful kissers. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there was a while there where I'm like... Come over here, Ken Bowen. I don't like them anymore. I knew whatever you were doing was groomed. But intentional. It was still a lot. Yeah. And it's nice to see you. It's nice to see you too. Thank you. Mark, how long have you been a beard guy?
Starting point is 00:06:36 Oh, I don't love the whole beard. This configuration was, I had to do this for the show I'm working on. Like a lot of times I'll grow a full beard going into a project in order so they can make choices about my face. But in terms of the goatee, the soul patch and the mustache, it's a good question. I don't know when that started, but it was going on about the beginning of the podcast. I started that. Before that, there was no beard. I've gone through times where it seems like the last two specials before this one were fully bearded
Starting point is 00:07:12 only because I had to be in Joe Swamberg's series, the easy series. That character that I recurring had a beard. I didn't want to be on specials with a beard, but I was because I was committed to showing up for the Swamberg show that no one saw. So to be in show business is to have other people make your face choices. You should, and hair choices, because it's easier. But so this configuration, I don't think I've ever really had this, what do you call this, a Van Dyke?
Starting point is 00:07:40 That's a Van Dyke, I think. Classic Van Dyke. Are you playing a jazz clarinet player? No, I'm not. Or a guy from 1997. More of that, I think. But this stays with those guys for a long time. The Van Dyke is still popular with the guys from 1997.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I noticed the other day, I was looking at a Hall of Fame induction photograph of former Colorado Rockies first baseman, Todd Helton. He had this going? Todd Helton, very handsome, very gray haired now, looks like a million dollars, and has had that facial hair configuration since he debuted with the Rockies in 1994. Pretty popular with guys that have no hair on the head.
Starting point is 00:08:21 This one, as opposed to full beard, because the beard doesn't just go up to nothing This way, you know, it looks tight. You know, I mean, yeah, but I have hair so I'm not Those guys Has a gorgeous both of you fuckers have beautiful. Yeah, that's true. What I look at Stephen Morris's fucking hair. Yeah, yeah This is fucking hair. Yeah. This asshole. Fabio just walked in!
Starting point is 00:08:44 Come on! Oh, come on! Jesus Christ! Really? I'm on number zero with the club friend. So that happened. What's your hair? Irish?
Starting point is 00:08:54 I think so, yeah. I think the furthest back. How about the rest of your eye? Yes. And all Switzerland from the hair down. You're Swiss. Yeah. Yeah, I think so Swisher. Pure Swiss. Yeah. Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:09:05 I've never done like a 23 and Me or anything, but I think I think- You haven't? No, I haven't. Why? What are you afraid of? Don't like spitting into an envelope. Huh.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Yeah. Really? That's where you draw the line? No, I don't know. Maybe I should do it. Have you done it? I've done it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Is it fun? It's not fun. It's fun to see what comes. Like, I was really hoping for some Viking. Yeah, I think that's what we're all hoping for. I know I'm a pretty deep Jew, and I was just hoping maybe they came down into Poland and someone got ahold of one of my great, great, great, great grandmothers and put a little Viking in there.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Sure. Because they did get down pretty far, the Vikings. But no, I think I'm like 99% Ashkenaz, full Jew. The 1% I think they just leave as wiggle room. The 1% Viking is just because of the snooze. I wish, yeah, the snooze. I'm so addicted to nicotine again. It's not good. Oh yeah. But I'm all right.
Starting point is 00:09:59 What is that? Is that a chewing tobacco? No, it's non-tobacco pouches. Okay. And they're very popular with the right-wing contingent, so I'm not proudly publicizing my addiction to Zyn. Sure. But I'm in it. Okay. And I've done, in my life, I've done all forms of nicotine, all kinds. I was getting the real snooze from Sweden for a while back in the day.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Oh, okay. You don't realize that. My people. Yeah, hundreds of different kinds of real snooze. Stuff that will make you sweat. Wow. You know, and I would fall asleep within my mouth and I'd do it in the morning and I'd have to lay down.
Starting point is 00:10:33 This one's, it's all right. I'm not thrilled to be painfully addicted to anything, but you know, if you got to pick one, this one seems okay. You can do a few rodeos, why not? Give it a try. Well, that would be the real dip. I don't think the rodeo guys probably look down on this, but maybe not.
Starting point is 00:10:47 I don't know, maybe this is fully integrated. This is more for a guy with a Van Dyke and no hair. Sure, but also even with Van Dykes with hair. But I do know that this is like picking up. It's sort of like the chew equivalent of vaping. It's kind of younger, more Gen Z. Right, but they passed a law here in California where they can't do any flavored stuff because it's too, they don't want the kids enticed.
Starting point is 00:11:15 So a lot of the Zins you can only get in LA have vague names like chill or smooth and you can't really identify the flavor. That's why you just roll it around in a little Nestle's quick. You could do. You could do. But there's a couple of guys, a couple of bodega situations. Soak it in strawberry milk. Yeah. A couple of bodega situations still get the flavored ones. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Now we're talking. Mark, I don't think I've ever seen you in shorts before. I'm not afraid of shorts. Yeah, they look great. You guys are both your fucking hair boys, first of all. A couple of beautiful heads of hair on you said the guy with hemmed shorts Second of all both you guys both you guys What are you guys doing summer boy jorts situations?
Starting point is 00:11:54 Jorts and I made these myself. Yeah, those are some I mean those were jeans. I did and now they're George I did him. I think I might have went a little short. It's hard to know when you're cutting No, hey the inseam mark the pit. How did I pick the inseam, Mark? How did I pick the inseam? Yeah. What was the consideration? When you got those shears out, what were you thinking about? In terms of the length?
Starting point is 00:12:11 Yeah. Well, I was thinking, like, I didn't want capri pants. Right. And I didn't want too long. But I also didn't want, you know, 1972 beach dude, you know, hot butt shorts. Right. You do have a hot butt, Mark.
Starting point is 00:12:24 My butt's holding up. I mean, if you got the hot butt, you might as, hot butt shorts. Right. You do have a hot butt, Mark. My butt's holding up. I mean, if you got the hot butt, you might as well get the shorts. It's seeming that the butt's flattening. And it's something I have no control over, and I'm not gonna put a lot of work into the squats to keep the bubble butt, but... You gotta do those Beyoncé exercises.
Starting point is 00:12:38 I can't do it. I just gotta live with pulling my pants up a lot. Yeah. Like, every pair of pants I get, they fit. And then on stage I'm like, what is happening? Like I got a girlfriend who's like, Mark, pants. Because like most of my ass is showing. And then people are like, well, isn't that kind of a style?
Starting point is 00:12:57 No, it's just old man ass problems. But you know what? I feel like that could be a lifestyle for you. It is a lifestyle for me, but it's not one that I'm like thinking of in the morning. It's something that's happening by default that I live with. I think you could lean into being a guy who like rubs the side of his face and goes, like that and you do great at that.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Yeah, well, this was a it was an interesting moment I had in New York City recently. I was going to buy an apartment there, you know, because that's sort of the dream when you're younger, a comedian or actor, you like you want to do like New York, LA, want to have a place in New York and LA. So now I've got some bread saved up and I had a lead on a good apartment right at 11th and 2nd. And I was- That's the intersection, says me, a guy who's been to New York five times. What's like, yeah, I mean, if you want to go to Times Square, the Empire State Building, you've got to be at 11th and 2nd. Sure.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I mean, well, what better place to walk in here? You don't make it up that far if you're at 11th and 2nd. This is East Village. Mark, if you're at 11th and 2nd, you could go straight to the library, the New York Library, New York Public Library. But look out for King Kong. Yeah. Oh. Hey, how about a hot dog, a glizzy? Have a glizzy. Have a glizzy. The library, the New York library, New York public library. But look out for King Kong. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Hey, how about a hot dog, a glizzy? Have a glizzy. Nope, nope. If you're at 11th and 2nd and that's where you kind of, that's your neighborhood, you're not going above 14th too often. Okay. That's what I always say. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:19 I always say that. Well, what happens is I had this vision in my head. It's like, yeah, I'm getting old. I want to be a New York old guy. Oh, yeah. Because I'll go and do all those things I never did when I had this vision in my head. It's like, yeah, I'm getting old. I want to be a New York old guy. Oh, yeah. Because I'll go and do all those things I never did when I lived there for over a decade. Everything will change. It can be museums. Gallery opening.
Starting point is 00:14:33 All that. Opera. There's no reason to believe that I would do any of that. Sure. Yeah. But I was locked into it and I'm well into the process of buying this apartment. And I go visit New York for three days. And I had this moment is that the coffee shop and Whole Foods there on Houston, and I'd gotten some fruit at, you know, that's a great choice for a snack. I got some fruit. I think,
Starting point is 00:14:58 you know, and all I wanted was a cup to put my fruit in. Right. So I went to the coffee shop and I'm like, can I have a cup? And she's like, well, you have to buy a coffee. And I'm like, I just bought fruit. Right next door, I bought fruit and I was livid. And it's- She had seen that Joe Swanberg show.
Starting point is 00:15:16 She would know that you deserve a cup. Cause I didn't have the full beard. So, but that was the situation. And I got abnormally angry about it. And I'm in New York and I'm having this moment where I can't get a cup for my fruit. And it dawned on me that if I moved there as an old man, I'd be one of those old guys you just see kind of like lurching down the street with a Strand book bag and a couple of other random plastic bags, looking mad, talking to himself. And I'm like, that's not my future.
Starting point is 00:15:44 I don't know what that't know. Random plastic. You really hit it with random plastic bag. Yes. Yeah. Dwayne Reed. What's in there? Yeah. More plastic bags a lot of times.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Why did they need it? Who knows? Yeah. But I saw my future, and I turned back. I haven't been to New York in a minute. Looking forward to heading to New York for September 11. Judge John Hodgman at the City Winery. Always be plugging. Why that day?
Starting point is 00:16:10 That's kind of a loaded day. Because they're helping people heal, Mark. Healing with laughter. Don't forget to get your tickets. I have read in the New York Times. I like to read the New York Times to learn about the events of the world. Good for you. Sure. read in the New York Times. I like to read the New York Times to learn about the events of the world. And I'm always awed in the New York Times
Starting point is 00:16:29 that they know where I live because of computers. And they still want me to know about the lieutenant governor of New York state. Like, they have the technology to deliver me things about Los Angeles or just only national things. No. But they're, it's all whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:49 It's the New York Times. Yeah, the Kathy Hochul content is really. Sorry, they can't accommodate your Northern California sensibility. I know more about Eric Adams than whoever is mayor of Los Angeles. Anyway, one of the things that I read about is that there is a big Dwayne Reed problem in New York City. Anyone... People stealing stuff?
Starting point is 00:17:11 No. So anybody who's been to New York City knows that all stores in New York City are Dwayne Reeds. They're all... Or Dunkin' Donuts. Well, yeah, but your Dunkin' Donutses are largely... That's more Boston. It's a little further north east.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Yeah, maybe it's more Boston. Yeah, more further north in New England. Okay, yeah. Yeah. So it's all... I'm a little further north. Yeah, maybe it's more Boston. Yeah, more further north than New England. Okay, yeah. So it's all... I'm sorry. Hold on, I can do another apology. I'm sorry to New York. I'm sorry to Ben Affleck.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Yeah. J. Lo. I'll be the divorce. J. Lo. Yeah. I just want you both to heal and stay friends. Well, they're in the middle. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Can we recommend fruit? Fruit and going to see Judge Hodgman at the City Winery. What better to help with the healing? We'll also be playing Boston, Brookline, Massachusetts. Brookline. Just a couple days after that. So anyway, at Dwayne Reads in New York, a lot of them are going out of business because drug stores are largely going out of business because people can get their prescriptions
Starting point is 00:18:04 online because labor is more expensive, because real estate is expensive, et cetera, et cetera. There are fewer drug stores. But these drug stores, they're national chains and they have like 20 and 30 year leases on their storefronts. So they will shut a store because whatever labor costs- Because there's one across the street. Yeah, exactly. The same store.
Starting point is 00:18:27 But they still hold the lease. And the landlord doesn't have any reason to find a new tenant because Dwayne Reid can't just stop paying rent because they got too many. It's too big of a company. They got to stay in business. So more empty storefronts. So just all of New York from what I've read in the New York Times, the newspaper of record, it's just a bunch of closed Dwayne Reads. Yeah, and I think Walgreens are going and I'm like, I'm a big Walgreens guy.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Oh yeah, that's your chain drugstore of choice. Yeah, if I see that Walgreens sign when I'm on the road, I'm going to go in and even if I got nothing to buy, and a lot of times what I like to do is just stand in front of the miniature section and just marvel at all the things that you can get small and feel large. Yeah, it's a weird habit. Like the travel toiletries, not like, cause I was picturing like a high end toy, like an FAO Schwarz.
Starting point is 00:19:19 No, no, no, just like the small bottle, the Listerine I use. The tough one to find is the Cetaphil gentle foaming facial cleanser. And when I come across those at a Walgreens, I'm going to buy two or three of them. My day-to-day deodorant is a Mitchum. I'm a Mitchum guy. Wow, old school. So I love a roll-on.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Yeah, love a roll-on. But when I'm traveling, I get those little doves. You can spritz, fits right in the bag, and it's got a little scent. I usually don't have stuff with a lot of scents but when I'm traveling I like that little dove scent. No deodorant, never use it. Just a little something for the folks in the window seat? Yeah, exactly. I think body smell is better than deodorant. Really? Yeah. I haven't used deodorant in years because it just doesn't work. Oh, no. You know, and I'm really sensitive to fragrance. Some fragrances, I just...
Starting point is 00:20:09 You got to get yourself a Mitchum, my friend. No, I can't do it. Like, and I'm a guy who has been wearing patchouli for probably 35 years. Right. That I don't even smell anymore. But when I walk into a room, people are like, when does the music start? Yeah. You know? more. But when I walk into a room, people are like, when does the music start? Yeah. We also can't smell it. But it's just because we did four years at UC Santa Cruz 20 years ago. Nose blind, patchouli, nose blind, incense.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Yeah, I'll tell you this. I had an amazing experience on the subway today. I went downtown, our friend Noy Montes had a talk at the Central Library. And I went to his talk. What LA do you live in? I know, right? I live in Old Man, New York, LA. I was on the library holding my last bookstore tote bag. There you go.
Starting point is 00:20:53 A couple of random plastic bags. So I'm on the subway, and the subway in Los Angeles since the pandemic has gotten very colorful. Black people are using it. Yeah. There was a dude there sitting, it's great. I love the subway. There's a dude sitting there, I thought he was in scrubs for a minute,
Starting point is 00:21:10 but he was actually wearing a scrubs colored, like it wasn't a jumpsuit. It was like, I guess you'd call it a leisure set. Maybe like it was like a short sleeve camp shirt. Yeah. With exactly matching pants. And he was wearing like- But scrubs green?
Starting point is 00:21:30 Blue, scrubsy blue. Oh, the blue scrubs, yeah, yeah. Like a pale blue. Sure, sure. And he was wearing rectangular, no frame, tinted eyeglasses with gold,, like E-40 would wear, or like a storefront preacher would wear, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:21:48 And a little hat, and he had a giant laptop bag. Like a laptop bag, like a 19, like a Targus. Like a Dell laptop? Yeah, like a full-sized laptop with the little shoes. You know how those bags have little shoes on them? I can't picture the shoes. Yeah, like they're little like, like little like bumpy thingies on the bottom
Starting point is 00:22:11 so that if you wanted you could walk up. The hard plastic bottom. Yeah, okay. But it's pleather, this thing is definitely pleather. True. And he goes into it and he pulls out a full-size bottle of cologne, like an eight-ounce bottle of cologne, and just starts fucking going to town right there on the subway.
Starting point is 00:22:34 I'm like, this man is amazing. He puts it back, then he's sitting there for a little while. Then he goes into the main container, reaches in, pulls out a full-size package of baby wipes. I thought you were going corn on the cob. Starts going to town. But I'm talking about like four inches tall. You know what I mean? Like a full big thing, like an economy size of wipes. He's wiping in, he's going, I'm like, this guy has an entire drug store inside this laptop.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Well, you know, the Duane Reade's closed. Yeah. You gotta pick up the extra somewhere. It was hit up that guy if he needed anything. You're like, I need a tiny dove deodorant and a book of crossword puzzles. Just the smell of those two things, just even you talking about whatever cologne it was,
Starting point is 00:23:21 and then the smell of those wipes. I'm triggered. Yeah. There's a, see, it's something though magical, I think, about a Walgreens. Love it. Or a chain drug store in general. Yeah. I don't like Dwayne Reads.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Oh, really? Don't love CVS. Oh, okay. Rite Aid's a little not great, but there's something about Walgreens. I think it's a sign, just that neon with the W. And every time I see them, I'm like, oh, I gotta go around to myself.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I have a lot of affection for Walgreens because when I was a kid in my neighborhood, when I was eight or nine, a Walgreens moved in at 30th and Mission Street. And that Walgreens was like my first connection to modern commerce, I guess you would say, like the things that- Like you could get anything there. Like brightly lit.
Starting point is 00:24:15 30th and Mission in San Francisco? Yeah. Was it like by Petro a Hill? More towards, more towards Bernal Heights. Bernal Heights, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And this Walgreens, which I believe is still there, seemed like a miracle. And my dad and I would walk there sometimes.
Starting point is 00:24:35 And we would, a few times, we bought those tins of butter cookies. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They come in the little white paper trays. There's the pretzel shape. Uh huh. There's square with sugar flecks. With the little dent on the top. The little dent.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Yes, on the square ones. And none of the, well, I would disagree. I think all the cookies are bad to eat. Oh, I love those. Oh yeah. Any day of the week. I love anything that comes in a tin. Yeah, because you I love those. Any day of the week. I love anything that comes in a tin.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Yeah, because you can keep the tin for other little things. That's right. My sewing notions. You can put your child things in there. My collection of miscellaneous bags. Marbles. Oh, yeah, now you're talking. Marbles.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Sure. Couple trading cards, maybe a little plastic animal. Forget-me-nots from your sweetie. Sure. A lot of great things. Pressed flower. You guys wanna go through our memory tens, feel nostalgic and think about death and then come back for a little bit more?
Starting point is 00:25:34 We'll be back in just a second on Jordan, Jesse Goh. I'm Jesse Thorn, America's Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy detective. A thousand thank yous to every member of Maximum Fund. Everybody who's gone to MaximumFun.org slash join and supported this program directly. It means the world to us, and we hope that you are enjoying our new show, Gracie's Game Gauntlet,
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Starting point is 00:26:54 No, but I look forward to you telling me to do it every time we do this ad read. You make this Marcella Hazan red sauce, all you got to do is take a can of nice tomatoes, dump them in there, some butter and an onion sliced in half and you simmer it for a while. Comes out incredible. But that sauce, you gotta put it on something. Gotta put it on something. And if you want the sauce to shine,
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Starting point is 00:28:05 you go to wildgrain.com slash JJ go to start your subscription. You heard me. Free croissants in every box and $30 off your first box when you go to wildgrain.com slash JJ go. That's wildgrain.com slash JJ go or you can use the promo code jjgo at checkout. Jordan, I am on the road right this very moment with the Judge John Hodgman Road Court Tour. I am on my way to Ann Arbor, Michigan on the 24th, Madison, Wisconsin on the 26th, St. Paul, Minnesota on the 27th. It is the Midwest swing of the Judge John Hodgman Road Court Tour.
Starting point is 00:28:50 It is a great time. If you come out to one of those shows, we're going to have a blast. I promise you that. Will there be some guys from Rift Tracks there? We haven't booked them, but they usually end up there. Why? Because they're the greatest. Sure. Because they're the greatest. Yeah, we're going to have a good old time at those shows.
Starting point is 00:29:08 If you live in one of those places, come out to the shows, maximumfun.org slash events is where you can get your tickets. They're a blast. I've seen The Judge John Hodgman Show live many times. You can bring all your friends, even if they've only occasionally heard it, even if they haven't listened at all. It's just a good old comedy show that is very funny
Starting point is 00:29:26 from a couple of comedy pros. And guess what? If you live in Los Angeles, get your tickets to Judge John Hodgman Live in Los Angeles featuring supporting act Jordan Jesse Goh. Yeah, please do. Those tickets also online at maximumfun.org slash events. And hey, if you are in the Baltimore area, I am at Baltimore Comic-Con this weekend,
Starting point is 00:29:42 the 20th through the 22nd. I'll be there in Artist's Alley. Table I-11, that's right. in the Baltimore area. I am at Baltimore Comic Con this weekend, the 20th through the 22nd. I'll be there in Artist's Alley. Table I-11. That's right. I-11, the table to go to for the most fun at the con. Who-11? I. Me. Me-11. I-11. Of course. It-me. I-11. It-me. It-me. I-11. I will be selling books, signing books, and, yeah, asking you where I should hang out in Baltimore,
Starting point is 00:30:09 where I might see John Waters. Are you gonna go to that outsider art museum, the visionary art museum in Baltimore? Ooh, that sounds fun. It's so fucking cool. Okay. Oh, it's just the best. It's one of the best museums in the country.
Starting point is 00:30:18 It's so cool. I would love to see that. There you go. One good rec. Yeah. I'll need some more, though. That's why you'll have to come see me. Yeah. Recommend things. And if you disagree with me, go tell Jordan why.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Yeah. Jesse's wrong. Uh, we'll be back in just a second on Jordan andi Goh. I'm Jessi Thorne, America's Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris Boyd, Detective. Mark Maron, comedian. I love this, the reset. It's been a while since I reset. Yeah, it feels good, huh?
Starting point is 00:30:57 We're back. It feels good. I did have a weird flashback watching you guys do the intro live. I had this weird flashback of San Francisco waiting the intro live. Uh huh. You know, I had this like weird flashback of San Francisco waiting for Alex Bennett to stop talking. He'd have like two or three comedians in there. Folks, we're doing live 105 humor here on Jordan Jesse Goh. You just have to sit there and wait for him to stop yammering about his stomach.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Like, I feel sick. Anyone else feel sick? I think I got a bug. And like just three comics waiting to hop in. But you had to let Alex do the talking for the first 10 minutes and you just sit there watching him whine about something, getting worked up about nothing. People need to hear the beautiful human submarine content, Mark. No, I liked it. The content was good. But it did have that weird moment of just watching a guy talk while you're waiting to talk. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:47 It is a very- Well, please know that we do feel a little rude when we do it. OK, good. To be the person brought in, I worked on a morning radio show in San Francisco on Live 105's sister station, Alice FM. And on Alice, there was a team called Sarah and No Name. Now, I believe Sarah's back working with Vinny Jordan.
Starting point is 00:32:07 So Sarah and Vinny is back. Oh my God, spill the tea, what happened? There! I think Sarah and Vinny stopped working together. No Name came in, but I believe No Name is back out and Vinny is back. Clearly they weren't committed to No Name. Like, it is an odd tradition.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Like, there is the one thing which is like comic who's playing the club that weekend is there. That's a thing. But there's also like morning show that has comics that come in once or three times a month, four times a month. Like our friends Kevin Avery and W. Kamau Bell were regulars on that show.
Starting point is 00:32:47 But also just like some various other San Francisco comedians. Yeah, it's such an odd thing for them, professional funny people, to be visiting this world of people who say things that are relatable but uncontroversial and an excited voice Which is sort of the job of it's part of the gig You know and like to this day being a radio guy or an x-radio guy I if I walk into a morning radio
Starting point is 00:33:23 Situation and they're on it, it's great. Because I did live morning radio for a year at Air America. And the pace that you have to keep up, and I know as a guy who did morning radio, when somebody walks in as a guest, especially a comic, all you're thinking is like, he's not going to fuck us, is he? Is he going to get on board here or are we we gonna have to deal with whatever his problem is, or him not wanting to be there? Or are you like, you know, pulling teeth
Starting point is 00:33:50 because he doesn't want to be funny because he's been up all night? So there is this like thing when you bring someone into something that's moving, where you're like, are you gonna get on board here, or are you gonna fuck us? And I'm very aware of that. So if there's a good morning crew, there's a crew in Philly that's great,
Starting point is 00:34:08 I'll still go do morning and afternoon radio because I like it if they're good because there's nothing like that pace. Like, and if you can play along. It's madness. It's great though. I listen sometimes, once in a while, I'll listen to like Big Boy in the Morning,
Starting point is 00:34:22 the big morning radio show out of LA on Hip Hop Station. And the number of voices, the clarity of what they're saying, the pace and tone is all so off the charts that it feels like listening to Radiolab, only you know that they didn't talk for an hour and then some editing genius turned it into 40 seconds of interplay. Like, it is people talking, in most cases, probably actually live. I think maybe some of big boys not live, but like, but mostly actually live.
Starting point is 00:34:57 And you're like, I don't understand how anyone could, just the part where you wait for the other person to be done talking then start talking immediately at 10 out of 10 intensity then stop clearly enough that a third person can start talking. It's a symbiotic thing it's like something that happens over years of working together and just kind of having that moment and guys on radio because I'm an interrupter by nature and I'm impatient and my co-host was like very aware of that after a certain point and And guys on radio, because I'm an interrupter by nature, and I'm impatient.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And my co-host was like very aware of that after a certain point. And if they're radio veterans, I mean, they'll just figure out a way to stop. In that moment. But the vibe of it, when I used to do Morning Radio Man, we had to get up early because we had to put together a new show too. So I was getting up at like 2.30 in the morning to be at the studio at like four to put together a show that went on at six. And I would bring a full large bag of M&Ms and like two Dunkin Donuts coffees. So by the time we went on air, I was in, I was manic.
Starting point is 00:36:00 It was like, it was like just a dope. So it wasn't Dunkin Donuts coffees and donuts. It was Dunkin Donuts, coffee and M&M's. Pure sugar. Okay. I didn't want to mess with the donuts. And we want to be weighted down. Right. Just chocolate, which gave me a little more caffeine
Starting point is 00:36:13 and Dunkin Donuts coffee. And by the time the mics went on, I was like, and just go. Sure. And then by the time nine o'clock came around, I was like, done. The thing that amazed me and watching that and again I only worked there a couple months because I just couldn't do the getting up in the morning
Starting point is 00:36:29 I was getting a migraine every day from getting up. So oh, yeah, you can't live a regular life I sacrifice a lot to do morning radio. I know it's totally bananas and But like the thing that impressed me the most and they were the people that I worked for were very good at it Yeah, very nice. I was not allowed to make eye contact with them. Really? That's true. But anyway, the producers I was allowed to make eye contact with. What do you mean weren't allowed to make eye contact? Like I wasn't allowed to interact with them at all. With the hosts? With the hosts. Because they were working. Oh. I guess. Well, that's the other problem with morning radio is if you were doing back in the day when radio was a thing, these guys who hosted who you didn't know were kind of regional superstars.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Oh, totally. So they had the ego of a guy that was globally popular. And if they didn't vibe with you, you're going to take a hit. They're going to bury you on purpose because they're threatened. And that was a big thing, man. Honestly, I went on the Kojo Namdi show on WAMU. Kojo was like the call-in host on the big NPR station in Washington, DC. And this was seven years ago.
Starting point is 00:37:38 People will tell me about how excited they were then to hear me on that show. They will tell me this now. Like, I'll be in Washington, DC, and somebody will be like, about how excited they were then to hear me on that show. They will tell me this now. Like I'll be in Washington, DC and somebody will be like, you know, I heard you on Kojo Namdi. How did you get on Kojo Namdi? I'm like, I mean, Kojo Namdi is great.
Starting point is 00:37:58 I live in Washington DC, wonderful host. And I'm like, hey, I have a national NPR show. I also am like, I think he's great too. Don't get me wrong, he's totally great. But yeah, that is an amazing, but the thing that impressed me the most about being able to do that is it's every day, and like your show, Mark, was pretty topical. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like you had a certain amount of like, you know, circling
Starting point is 00:38:27 newspaper articles that you could do between forms. We had to do like real politics. But then as I evolved, when they made me the guy, it was just talking about my life and about things that I observed. So it was a balance of politics and me just, there was, I remember the moment that I figured out and that, and also Brendan McDonald, my producer knew that this was the medium for me. It was, I remember what I was talking about. I used to talk about these cats all the time
Starting point is 00:38:56 cause I trapped all these feral cats and brought them into my apartment, which was an ongoing story. But there was this one time where I was trying to cook lentils, and I forgot about them. And when I got to the pot, they had created this sort of like, almost like a tar. And then I went off on this riff about primitive people
Starting point is 00:39:15 and what they might have used as adhesive. And it was all based on, it was just this riff. And it was at that moment, I'm like, I'm a fucking radio guy. I can do this. I'll do radio guy. I can do this. I'll do the traffic. I'll do the weather. Bring it on. The thing that was amazing to me about this show is, right, this is like a station that was programmed towards,
Starting point is 00:39:36 like, young adult women going to work. Like, let's say 25 to 45, that kind of window, you know, grown ups that still are pretty fun. Right. But we got work to do today. Right. And so they could only talk about survivor. Like, there was no other topic. Oh, sure. Like, they could only talk about something that would bother no one. And that was universally relatable, and that was almost exclusively Survivor, but they also had to do three hours a day. Well, that's why you find those refillable things
Starting point is 00:40:13 that never stop. I mean, you gotta figure out a way to fill that airtime. And if there's a TV show one of the guys gets obsessed with that's ongoing, it's like, what a gift. That's like the first four segments. That's 45 minutes, man. I'm sure there's people who still know you as the lentil guy. I don't know. I don't know about that. I got a lot of pushback on not talking politics all the time. Well, this is important stuff, Mark. It was very... My lentil thing was very important,
Starting point is 00:40:43 and the cats were very important. People remember the cats. And, well, I mean, if you look at it, the lentil thing might have been a metaphor for gerrymandering. That's a really good point, Jordan. Thank you. Thank you. Plus, we got Robert Reich coming in here later, so... Oh, yeah, to tell us about the end.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Former Secretary of Labor, Robert Reich. There's a lot of that. Who are some lot of who were some of the other regular guests. We did some stuff, though. Kucinich, you ever have Kucinich? Yeah, I think we did have Kucinich. Did you know Kucinich was managing RFK Jr.'s campaign until he got fired? Oh my god, really?
Starting point is 00:41:17 That's over today. I think it's over. Oh, did he announce that it's as we were recording? And he's supporting Trump. Oh, wow. OK, cool. That sellout fraud lunatic. Well, obviously, I have no position on this.
Starting point is 00:41:30 No, no, no. But it is impressive news. Yeah. You would not be doing the show I was doing. So anyway, when you make a lentil paste, Jordan, or something else momentous happens to you, give us a call, 206-9844-FUN or send us a voice memo at jjgo at maximumfun.org for our segment, Momentous Occasions. Someone call it in, let's play it out.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Hi, Jordan. Hey, Jesse. Hey, guest. This is Danny from Ann Arbor, Michigan calling in for your segment, Dubious Life Choices. So instead of finding a life partner and starting a family like many of my peers are doing right now, I decided to live in a van and travel around the country.
Starting point is 00:42:15 And yeah, my lease on my apartment just ended today. So this is my first day of vanning full time. Maybe it'll be extremely fun. Maybe it'll be extremely fun. Maybe it will be extremely miserable. Only time will really tell. But yeah, you know, wet as a river, hard as a stone, get dressed today, go punch a blimp, all that fun stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Love you guys, bye. Congratulations, Danny. Yeah, what other things from 2020 will you be doing? I really pictured him at a payphone. I like Jesse's fake radio guy energy going into the caller's kindergarten teacher energy. It was a real... Who do we got on the line? Who do we... Hi, this is Danny and I like fans.
Starting point is 00:43:03 I'm a really nice guy. He's from Ann Arbor. I don't think that's... Right from the beginning, I'm like, this story doesn't end great. Oh, no. Are you worried about Danny? I'm a little worried about Danny. It sounds like... I think Danny can do it. Are you picturing a ravine or a descent into madness? I would go descent into madness. He sounded like relatively committed, but not optimistic. It was just sort of like, I'm doing the van thing. He was kind of resigned to it, wasn't he?
Starting point is 00:43:31 Yeah, and it's sort of like, what's he running from? How far is he going to get? Right, yeah. I have a friend, like one of my best buddies from middle school, who I'm still friends with. He came out to visit in Los Angeles just recently. He lives in New York. And I found out that he and his girlfriend had driven to LA from New York. And like when we were 22 or 23, he drove across the country and back in his Toyota Corolla and like slept
Starting point is 00:44:01 in the car, like put curtains in and got a YMCA membership and stuff. And like the fact that he was still exploring that lifestyle in his early 40s really astonished me. That like, that idea of driving for six hours in one day as a hobby was breathtaking. Yeah, it's sort of like, it puts you in a weird position. You're like, wow, well, that's great. Good for you, really.
Starting point is 00:44:29 That tone of like, are you okay? Part of it, so I feel like there's a piece of it, I don't know if this is the case with my friend, Adam. I love Adam Katz, but there's a part of it where you feel like it's an excitement about the fact that you could be so at leisure that you could spend your day driving and not be like, I wish I spent my day doing something else. I've done that drive a lot. And I was a driver.
Starting point is 00:45:08 And even when I go on the road now, if I'm doing dates in the Midwest, I'll do the rent-a-car, do Chicago, Minneapolis, Milwaukee, and do these runs. And I like it. I totally understand it. I live the life of a comic. So there is the idea
Starting point is 00:45:25 that that's going to be the only place I can really relax and think. Is the Wisconsin Dells? Sure. But just doing six to 12 hour drives. I remember when I left New York to go to San Francisco after I hit the wall, I drove, I did a 21 hour run going into San Francisco. Too many hours. But it was crazy because you do get into this hallucinatory place. I just remember.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Which makes driving safer. Totally. But I just remember. Your ultra alert. Because you can see real threats and possible threats. Yeah, yeah, you see things on the periphery that might not be there. You can hear the secret messages on the radio.
Starting point is 00:46:04 What's safer than knowing the future? Don't stop for the elf. Oh, yeah. Never stop for the elf. But there are those moments where you pull over to get gas and you've got music going, and you're totally insulated in this environment. And when you get out of the car, you're like, I just landed.
Starting point is 00:46:22 I just landed from another place. Mark, do you think you could do hashtag van life like Danny did no because uh yeah I don't I don't like the the safety element of being sleeping in a car I don't like the idea of being come upon sleeping in your car I feel like if I had a if I had one of those adventure vans yeah I don't adventure van are we talking like one of those silver things? Like a sprinter, but maybe it's like a little lifted. It's on like extra big tires.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Like the VW ones that pop up on top? Yeah, but I'm talking about like probably a, like a, not a VW one. Like a VW one, I would be worried that it would break. I couldn't deal with that part of it. A modern version of that. What are those silver trailer campers, you know, the ones that are all air stream? Yeah, air stream. I know if you told me that I got an air stream out of this deal, I'm in in a second. I know I kind of I get it, you know what I mean,
Starting point is 00:47:15 but I don't love camping, you know, I don't love that not for very long, you know, eventually, I like to stop somewhere, even if it's a shitty hotel. I like a hotel. My dad was a big motel guy. We did a trip when I was like... What does that mean? Like a family-owned kind of small thing? No, he loved Motel 6. This was before the internet. We did a trip where we drove from... He had gotten like an inheritance.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Like a big moment in my life at my dad's house was he got this like $25,000 inheritance from an aunt or something. And that was like when we started doing some middle-class shit. We got a color TV, which we did not have previously. This was in the early 90s. We got a color TV, we got cable.
Starting point is 00:48:03 My dad got that cable service that like brought CD quality music into your home. That was very exciting. We bought a two-year-old Honda Accord wagon and we went- I thought you were going to say kid. Yeah. We bought a child. And we went on this trip to, we went as far as Detroit and back. And on that trip, it was before the internet substantially, and we had a book that listed where all the Motel 6s were. And that was the plan.
Starting point is 00:48:33 The plan was just plan out where all the Motel 6s are. Wow, that's wild, because we did the trip tick, AAA trip tick. Oh yeah, right. I remember doing that in my life before GPS or anything like that. You go to AAA as a member, say where you were going, and they give you this flip book of chunks of territory, where to stay, what to see, and you kind of just flip through it
Starting point is 00:48:57 and you can figure out which hotel you wanted. It was like the greatest thing in the world. I don't even know what AAA does anymore. I think it's all about insurance. They send you Westways, the best magazine that you can read. Sure. Hold on. The best magazine you can read is Costco Connection. That's true, Jesse. He was in Costco Connection recently. I'll concede and say it's maybe a little bit better than Westways, but I love my Westways. You can register your car at AAA.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Yeah. You can also do a notary. Oh, they've got a notary at the AAA. You can do notary. You can renew your license. Oh, they've got a notary at the AAA. Yeah, you can do notary. You can get the insurance. They still have maps, I think, a few. Discounted Halloween Horror Nights tickets for Universal Studios. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think there's a lot of things that you probably are the perks. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:38 I'm a big AAA guy. I'm a big AAA guy. I've used the notary service a lot, and I've renewed my license there, yeah. I live in a neighborhood. Renters insurance. Renters insurance. I have my renters insurance. I've used the notary service a lot and I've renewed my license area. Renters insurance, I have my renters insurance. You do? From AAA? Yeah. That's good. I live in a neighborhood where the only forms of business are jumper rental and notary. So I have no worry about finding a notary. I don't have to go to the AAA. There's four notaries within walking distance at my house at all times.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Oh, good. So in case you got documents. Yeah. If I need to prove that I rented a jumper. Bounce house rentals. You guys want to price a few jumpers and then come back for some more? Yeah. If you've got a momentous occasion, it's jjgoatmaximumfund.org or 206-984-4fund. Stephen Ray Morris, those momentous occasions pouring in. By the thousands. By the thousands. I love to hear it. JJGoatMaximumFun.org, 206-984-4FUN.
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Starting point is 00:51:55 California. These are the events taking place in my house. It's Jordan Jesse Goh. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris, Boy Detective. Mark Maron, a guest, comedian, and a friend. So we're talking about maps in the break. Yeah. That led, of course, you know, talking AAA,
Starting point is 00:52:17 you got to talk maps. You got to talk maps. You can still go into the AAA and get free maps, because I did that recently. I figured I should have a few maps of the area in my card, just in case I'm ever lost in my phone dies or whatever. You never know. So I got a few maps.
Starting point is 00:52:32 You can get those maps. Then we started talking about Thomas guides, the map books that I only recently learned are not national. I learned this because I brought them up on Judge John Hodgman, and everyone stared at me like I was an insane person. Totally LA thing. Yeah, totally LA thing. Yeah. So these were big sort of gridded, highly indexed map books of...
Starting point is 00:52:51 Right. In order to get anywhere, you had to source the number and letter at the top of the last map and go find it to continue your journey. But that was like, you know, if you're driving, that's hard to do. Yeah. That's a challenge. And why stop when you can fuck with a Thomas guide? I was a... Plus there's hard to do. Yeah, that's a challenge. Why stop when you can fuck with a Thomas Guide? Plus there's an elf there, so do not stop.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Don't stop for the elf. You've been up for 21 hours, you're trying to figure out the secret codes in the Thomas Guide. What you do is you cross-reference the grid with the Bible. You go to Romans, three letters down. So anyway, you'll learn when you're going to die. Jordan became a map pro when he was working as a production assistant, which he did for a number of years upon moving to
Starting point is 00:53:30 Los Angeles years ago. And Mark, I had no idea that you had also worked as a production assistant. When I first got out here after college, you know, I was living in Culver City with Steve Brill, and I didn't know anything about show business or how to get started. And were you living in his famous building? Not the Brill building. And he was not related. It was just an apartment building that I think his uncle owned. You and Carole King. Writing songs. I stepped right in. Weaver and Stoller at the piano, and I'm like, where do I start? I wrote a couple of popular R&B hits that I don't get credit for. But yeah, so I got looped into the PA,
Starting point is 00:54:06 you know, someone's PA, you just call a friend if they know of any work. So I'm not a good PA, but I get this job. Neither was I. I was fucking terrible. But oddly, I got in at the comedy store because of a PA job. Okay. Mitzi Shore, who I auditioned for right when I got to LA, was producing some sort of idea of like a comedy network. She was doing all these sketches at the comedy store with, and I got a job just by coincidence on that. And I was able to go, you remember me? And she's like, oh yeah, you're funny, be a doorman.
Starting point is 00:54:38 And that's how I started the comedy store. But the PA job before that was at, it was for a music video of children's songs, and it was circus themed, and it was shooting at the docked Circus Vargas. When you say like a, when you say a music video, you're talking about like a VHS tape you would buy at the drug store kind of thing?
Starting point is 00:54:59 I believe that's what it was. So they had all these kids, and they were singing circus themed songs. I don't remember what they were, but I knew I had to drive out to where the circus Vargas was parked with all their stuff. It was not up and doing. So they had to set up the tents for this shoot and everything else. So I'm there, the director's on blow.
Starting point is 00:55:18 It's like a full, there's kids everywhere and I'm watching stuff happening at the parking lot of at this dock Circus Vargas. I'm seeing like the dismembered horse meat that they got to feed the tigers. It's better than if it had been membered. It was intense because the crowning story was like I was working at this Circus Vargas all day and there was a couple of clowns who were the Circus Vargas clowns. And at the end of the day, they were like, do you want to come to the trailer and get high? And I'm like, sure, man. With the clowns? Well, that's the thing. So like,
Starting point is 00:55:57 after, you know, they're cleaning up the set, and they tell me to come over to their trailer, and I walk in and, you know, they're about to roll up some joints, or we're going to pass a pipe around. I had this moment where I was like, can you guys just take the makeup first? Take off the makeup. Because I don't know if I can handle the getting high with the clowns in the makeup.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Just take off the makeup. You can keep the shoes if you need to. Yeah, but I can't do them. I'm not going to be able to handle it. Sure. You just start to get paranoid. You hear that flap flapping of those giant shoes behind you. Blonk, blonk, the little horn. And then you and all 25 guys are going to pile in one car
Starting point is 00:56:34 and go to Burger King. Yeah, high. Yeah. Well, Mark, it's always so great to see you. And you knew Jordan and I were talking before the show about, I told you this already, but I'm going to tell you on the air so everyone at home can hear. We were talking about how great the album is and how great the special is.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Oh, thank you. And you're just really, you know, people we don't need to explain to comedy podcast fans that Mark Marin is talented. But you're really amazing at your job, Mark. I appreciate that. And it's really great to get to hear the record and see the special.
Starting point is 00:57:04 And I hope everybody will run out and buy the album. And I put a lot of thought into the cover. Yeah, I did want to ask you about the cover. It's you with a face wound? Well, you know, is this like an Andrew W.K. situation? That's what I was wondering. I mean, I guess that's a reference to people who buy records.
Starting point is 00:57:22 But I realized a long time ago that most comedy records, they don't stand the test of time really because people don't listen to them a lot. And on the cover, every comic, for as long as there've been comedy records, make bad decisions about what a funny cover would be. And if they're from the 80s, you're not wearing- Or their photographer makes the bad decision for them. Whatever the case, you're always doing something silly,
Starting point is 00:57:44 you're wearing doing something silly. You're wearing an outfit from whatever time that the record was made. Someone has handed you a rubber chicken. But yeah, this idea of being funny. There's only one great comedy album cover. Some of the older ones are great, but Red Fox did one. I think it was called You Gotta Wash Your Ass.
Starting point is 00:58:00 And it's just a horse's ass. And I think that stands to testify. Sure, that's fun. Sure. That's a classic. Solid. And I think that stands to testify. Sure. That's a classic. Solid. No notes. They're very barrage, supple.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Yeah. But I didn't want to do a cover that would date itself. So that day, the day that I injured my face, I hike up the mountain in Glendale behind the Brand Library. I used to do it like two or three times a week. And at the top of that hike, I always do these two stretches where it kind of squat and stretch and I stand up quickly into a full body stretch. And it's after a pretty massive hike,
Starting point is 00:58:31 about an hour up the hill. And for years, every time I did the full body stretch, I'd get lightheaded. And I think to myself, it's amazing I haven't passed out. And that day I blacked out. I was at the top of the hill. I did that stretch. I was alone and I went down.ed out. I was at the top of the hill. I did that stretch.
Starting point is 00:58:45 I was alone. And I went down. Wow. And I was gone. And I woke up. My face was on the ground. I was bleeding. And I kind of put together what happened.
Starting point is 00:58:55 But I was really kind of frat. What's the word I want? disassociated. Because I passed out. But it was at that moment, I'm like, I got to a selfie. So I took the selfie and that's the picture. Wow. See, this is millennials. They're always obsessed with selfies. Yeah, they're always in their little phone.
Starting point is 00:59:13 So happy I have the phone. Oh, their dopamine hit. Thank you, Jeff Bezos. But very happy I got the cover from that. It's gorgeous. It's very cool. Thank you. I think it's, because I know that people
Starting point is 00:59:23 don't necessarily listen to vinyl, but that's a classic cover. I listened to the album on vinyl. Well, how's it play? It's great. It sounds amazing. I just like, laid on my couch. That's great. Pretended like I was in a dorm room in 1979. Well, that was the thing, man, with comedy records. You had to have a brother or a group of friends or you're like, you guys gotta hear this. You just sit around that record
Starting point is 00:59:44 player waiting. It was fun. I felt super present. friends, or you're like, you guys gotta hear this. You just sit around that record player, waiting. It was fun, I felt super present. Well, thank you. I was just enjoying it. It is like fucking hilarious. It's a really great album. It took a lot of work, that one, to put that together with the depth necessary
Starting point is 00:59:57 to pull off some of those bits around a very painful time. And I think it was, it took, it was, it's a lot of work on that one. I can tell, it took, it was, it was, it's a lot of work on that one. I can tell. It shows. It really shows. It's a, it's, it's, it's one of the, one of the best comedy specials I've heard in a long, long time. And I think everyone should check it out. I'm imagining all of the pictures of you with blood coming out of your face on one of those big light tables and you holding a grease pencil and like circling. Getting down on the negatives.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Yeah. The little eyeglass. on the negatives. Yeah. The little eyeglass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, Mark Maron, he's the host of WTF, the brand new record, in stores now. Go buy it on LP. That's long playing vinyl album.
Starting point is 01:00:36 From Kraft Recordings. Great label. From Kraft Recordings. Our thanks to them. They sent me a nice email. I said, well, Mark should come back on Jordan Jesseco sometime soon. And here you are. Here we are. We did it. Yatskin it. You I said, well, Mark should come back on Jordan. Jesse goes sometime soon. And here you are We did it. Yeah, it's been too long. You're always welcome here mark. Our producer is Stephen Ray Morris our producer Marius Brian Sunday D Fernandez find us on
Starting point is 01:00:54 Instagram at Jordan. Jesse go pod. Is that correct? Jordan? Jesse go pod Jordan. Jesse go pod Stephen. Have there been any dank memes posted on that Instagram lately? There was a great one. Oh, the Verdugo Aquatic Pool. Aquatic Center. Yes. Aquatic Center. Pardon me.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Pardon me. That one was really fun. Yeah, there was a really good Verdugo Aquatic Center meme. I just posted a very nice meme that a listener made of a girlfriend who's very sad and she's saying you're just saying a bunch of nonsense words that don't make any sense. And then the boyfriend says, full short. There you go. These are memes everyone can enjoy.
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