Jordan, Jesse, GO! - Ep. 174: Black Bart Simpson
Episode Date: May 11, 2011Dominic Dierkes of Derrick Comedy joins Jesse and Jordan for a discussion of Snoop Dogg, sports-loving children, arcade obsessions and more. ...
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Give a little time for the child within you, don't be afraid to be young and free.
Unto the locks and throw away the keys, and take off your shoes and socks and run you.
I'm Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart.
And I'm Jordan Morris, boy detective.
And this is Jordan, Jesse, Go!
Icicles, tricycles, ice cream, candy, lollipops, popsicles, licorice sticks,
Salmon, Jesse, go.
We're joined by Dominic Durkis of Derek Comedy to talk about the Simpsons arcade game and
Tecmo football and some other things that aren't quite so nerdy.
Let's go.
It's Jordan, Jesse, go.
I am Jesse Thorne America's radio sweetheart
Jordan Morris boy detective
A beautiful evening in Los Angeles
This week's episode a little bit late
Our apologies
Shit hit the fan
Jordan's got kids to feed
I do
Gotta buy shoes for his babies
I do yes my shoeless babies
Were getting a lot of tetanus.
Jordan, I know that you don't listen to a lot of rap music, but that's why everyone does every crime.
Baby shoes.
Baby needs shoes.
Oh, wow.
My baby needs shoes.
Now, they do mean literal babies, or just do they mean like their girlfriends?
Like babies?
No, no, not like Christian Laboutins.
Right.
No, their children need shoes.
They don't have shoes, apparently.
Do babies really need shoes, though?
They don't.
That's the thing.
Aren't they in cribs most of the time?
Babies don't even know how to walk.
I'm starting to think these rap guys just like doing crimes.
Now, if you said baby needs woolly socks, certainly, because it's cold out.
Sure.
You don't want your baby to get cold toesies.
Baby needs a num-num.
Yeah.
Certainly, baby needs a num- certainly baby needs a num num babies love
their numbers yeah anyway but that's i mean i guess in the context of rap music it's a little
tough to say num num i still you know i'll talk to i'll talk in a second about uh my interview with
hip-hop legend prodigy the other day um it was truly he wouldn wouldn't take his num-num out of his mouth.
That was the problem. Hard to understand.
He's gone into electronica.
Right, sure.
Now he smells of Hall's mentholiptus.
Joining us on this week's
Jordan Jesse Go, you know him as
one of the members of Derek Comedy.
You know him
from his own award-winning stage show.
I don't know.
I presume you haven't won any awards.
Dominic Dirkus.
Dominic, welcome to the program.
I've won awards before for stuff, for instance.
What awards have you won, Dominic?
I won, along with this, I've won with two different sketch groups
the Emerging Comic
of New York Award
the ECNY's
that's right
and that's it
so you won
with one group
and then you won
again with a second group
is it fair to say
that that first group
didn't emerge
like they had
they had hoped
I think what's fair to say
is that I carry
sketch groups
just on my back
and when you leave
their ability to emerge just goes right out the window.
Yeah, they're no longer.
Well, and the cool thing about me is I never get there.
I'm always emerging.
Right.
I'm never arriving.
There's no arriving.
So it's kind of like a comedy whack-a-mole.
You emerge very slightly.
That's right.
Then you recede.
Right.
As the hammer falls.
Right.
And then eight tickets.
Right. With which you then eight tickets. Right.
With which you buy a pencil topper.
I tell you what, I would spend a million dollars in those things if I could.
Like, just playing carnival games take my money.
That's like your weakness?
It's one of them.
Is it the promise of a giant stuffed animal, or is it just the challenge of the ring toss?
You know, I don't entirely know what it is.
I suspect a lot of it has to do with pride.
Like, I feel like my pride feels attacked that someone thinks I can't do this carnival game.
That you can't win Giants.
You know, Mexican Bart Simpson.
That's right.
You don't say that to a Dirkus.
No, no, no.
I'm taking that blinged out Taz.
I'm going to win it.
That framed picture of guns and roses
That's right
Man, I was thinking about a framed picture of guns and roses
I was gonna bring up when I was in summer camp
Yeah, that's the ultimate carnival gift
I went to the summer camp I went to
St. Dorothy's Rest in Northern California
Had different sessions
And I went to the
I went to the, whatever you call that, county fair session,
where you go at the end of the week of summer camp, you go to the county fair.
And I remember someone who really wanted to win a Guns N' Roses poster that was in a frame.
I feel like those weren't even, like, you know, you think about the poster a kid has
on his wall.
This was significantly smaller.
This was like an 8x10.
Yeah, I wonder about those.
I wonder about when you walk, something like that
where they have an 8x10, like Orlando
Magic, you know,
guy dunking a basketball, and you're just
like, who prints these?
Where does this come from?
Anthony Hardaway prints them.
Oh, I mean, he's near and dear to my heart. I'm from Memphis.
Penny Hardaway runs the whole Orlando Magic concession.
Can I go back to the conceit of the blinged out Taz?
Yeah, that's right.
Dominic, I don't know where you grew up.
You mentioned the South?
Memphis, Tennessee.
That's where I'm from.
And Jesse, you can weigh in on this too, having grown up in the Bay Area.
I definitely remember a time, this is maybe seventh grade for me, eighth grade, where the in vogue thing to wear was a giant T-shirt with a picture of kind of a hip hop Looney Tune on it.
A Taz, a Bugs Bunny, etc.
Like Tweety Bird with his hat cocked to the side.
A lot of Tweety Birds.
His pants sagging around his ankles.
Yeah, yeah.
A, did you guys have that where you were growing up?
And B, do you think those were Warner Brothers approved?
Iceberg.
Iceberg jeans had the license to create Looney Tunes apparel, as I recall.
Okay.
And I look.
I didn't know that.
I'm not the number one expert at remembering the difference between Iceberg and, say, Carl Connie.
No.
Certainly, do I know
for whom and by whom
FUBU is? Yes.
Us.
Where does Janko enter into all of this?
Them and Airwalks are off
in the sad corner of
skater apparel.
Airwalks were the biggest deal.
I think you're more likely
to find those in Orange County than you were in my neighborhood.
Yes.
Dominic, did you see these?
Was this a thing when you were growing up, the sagging Looney Tunes character?
Sagging?
What I would – I didn't see it so much on big t-shirts like in my – it was a bunch of like preppy white kids.
But I saw that image a lot.
Like people had that bumper sticker.
People had that like Marvin the Martian like saying something like,
welcome to Earth, bitch, or something.
You know, like that's it.
God, you know in a drawer somewhere in Warner Brothers,
there is a pilot for Urban Looney Tunes.
I feel like they've revamped the Looney Tunes so many different ways.
Like someone wrote it.
What they had on there, they had that script,
and they had a countdown on their wall until that script was too racist to produce and they kept trying to push it down and
then it hit zero one day and they just sat they'd set it in a in a sad drawer right sure they black
superman they eventually had they eventually had to decide do we want to go urban with looney tunes
yeah or do we want to associate it with michael Tunes? Yeah. Or do we want to associate it with Michael Jordan?
That's right.
Those were their two choices.
Yeah, no, I guess maybe like Space Jam, maybe put an end to that.
But here's the thing.
I was an American Studies major in college.
Had I not gone on to a career as a...
So therefore, you've watched Space Jam several times in an academic context.
What is this about to qualify?
That's not about the fact that I've watched Space Jam. That's about I've watched Space Jam several times in an academic context. What is this about to qualify? That's not about the fact that I've watched Space Jam.
That's about I've watched Space Jam because I believe I can fly.
Right, sure.
And you like sad period Bill Murray.
I feel like I'm reasonably familiar with the popular culture studies literature and just sort of the general things that have been explored.
And I feel like there is this rich,
deep, deep, powerful vein of theory
that could be developed around Black Bart Simpson.
I think there is no thing in popular culture
that I am aware of that is a more untapped reserve of powerful culture studies theories than Black Bart Simpson.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, I agree.
Black Bart Simpson as griot.
Black Bart Simpson as organic intellectual as formulated by Antonio Gramsci.
You know, I haven't seen that many Black Bart Simpsons.
I've more heard about it.
It's been a while since Black Bart Simpson. Well, you're 26 or 27.
I just turned 27 in March. Yeah. So I just turned 30. So Black Bart Simpson,
I think we can agree is... And Jordan, you're a Simpsons fanatic. So I think you may have been
plugged into this. Black Bart Simpson is a phenomenon of the early days of the Simpsons when the program was built around Bart Simpson.
Right, and this is kind of when the Bart Simpson t-shirt was just kind of everywhere.
The Bart man saying, evil doers beware.
Yeah, cowabunga dude.
Cowabunga dude.
Eat my shorts.
Yeah, and maybe you would see Homer pop up on something strangling Bart.
Yeah.
But that's the only other time you would see another Simpsons character.
Maybe, I've maybe even thought of, maybe they made a ploy for Lisa that's saying something, you know, intellectual.
But yeah, this was mainly when Bart Simpson was the center.
You have Black Bart Simpson. You have
specific offshoots of
Black Bart Simpson. Rasta Bart.
I was about to bring up Rasta Bart.
Yeah, and these were knockoff
things sold largely at swap meets.
Like mainly
swap meets. And God, yeah, what I
would not give for
a nice, just thin, vintage Rasta Bart t-shirt.
That would, I don't know, that'd be fantastic.
The Simpsons stand-up arcade game.
Oh, well.
I'm hunkering down because we're about to have a convo.
I don't know, maybe.
Well, because on some vacation, my mom watched me spend $40.
Yeah.
Because she talks about it as this big lesson, but she goes – I'd come upstairs and get another $20 in my wallet.
And I spent, like, $40 in a world where I had 50.
Right.
Sure, sure, sure.
And the most I'd ever had was 80 or something.
You gotta –
I was like –
You gotta defeat the Mr. Burns robot.
Yeah, at the end.
Which is the same carnival thing where – I'm feeling like a degenerate.
I came here from playing, like, a poker game.
I feel like I'm a degenerate gambler right now.
Right.
So I sank like 30 bucks into that thing before I beat it.
I did beat it.
Yeah.
But it was a lot of money.
I have also beat the Simpsons stand-up arcade game.
I forget where it went.
How do you even beat a stand-up arcade game?
Doesn't it take like 12 hours to beat a video game?
It was like an afternoon, I think.
I mean, it was a long time I played.
Yeah.
Well, the thing with with those
and kind of that similar game is there's only five levels five ish levels i know i'm gonna get some
emails saying specifically how many levels i believe there's more than five and do you count
the bonus levels where they're blowing up balloons no i don't um well don't condescend
write write jordan email no please oh god and let him know how many levels. I would love to read that. But it just gets pornographically hard toward the end.
So the time spent is less about the amount of levels and just like you will just start to die every minute.
When you say pornographically hard, you mean as hard as the penis in a pornographic film?
Yes, I'm saying it's so hard that if you had a fetish
regarding difficult video games,
you'd start jerking it.
Oh, I gotcha.
It's like Battletoads hard.
Oh, God, yeah.
Battletoads, lightspeeder level hard.
That's right.
Jesus Christ.
It's supposed to be like
the hardest video game level.
Yeah, I have heard that
and would agree.
I don't think I ever made it past that.
Can I ask you guys a question?
You may. On a recent episode of... This is about that. Can I ask you guys a question? You may.
Is this about Battletoads?
It's not that far.
Okay.
That's what I'm into talking about right now.
On a recent episode of Judge John Hodgman,
this was the case.
It was two, we'll call them enthusiastic gamers,
who were playing a game called Mega Man X.
Sure.
Absolutely.
We touched briefly on this last episode.
Okay.
We did mention Mega Man X.
Sorry.
So the question of the episode was,
is it cheating to check a strategy guide when you're playing Mega Man X?
Have you cheated?
If you look at a strategy guide,
mentally, I just got done doing Portal 2.
Sure.
And I had to check on one level for one thing
to see what to do.
Is that the one that Jonathan Coulton sings a song for?
Yeah, he sang a song for Portal 1.
I don't know if he has music.
Does he have a song in Portal 2?
I'm not sure, but there is a song in Portal 2
and I would imagine they got the same person.
But anyway, so I view it as cheating.
I think it is.
Not like,
it's just cheap.
You're not,
you have to go outside for help,
so I view it as cheating.
You're more of a pussy.
You're more of a pussy.
You're not a tough guy like you.
No, no, I looked.
I looked at the thing
and when I did it,
I was like,
I am cheating right now.
This is not,
I should be able to do it.
You would not,
if this was a carnival,
you would not win a giant inflatable mallet.
That's right.
It's a carnival equivalent of taking a ring and setting it on top of a wine bottle.
Coke bottle and going, I guess I win.
Yeah.
The argument was that you still accomplish the physical task of beating the game.
Well, here's, I guess, the questions that I would ask.
I have not heard the episode, but here's what I would ask.
Are you competing with someone?
Was these two guys saying who can beat the game first?
No, but one of them did actually beat it without the strategy guide.
Sure.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think it's just a personal preference thing, because let's face it, you shouldn't brag about beating a video game anyways.
you shouldn't brag about beating a video game anyways.
So, you know, if you're bragging about beating a video game,
whether or not you did it with a strategy guide is irrelevant because it's kind of sad.
Right.
If you're competing, yes, I would say don't use the strategy guide.
And I'm hesitant to mention our old foes,
but I think something interesting I read in the Penny Arcade once.
I don't know.
I know.
I don't even know.
Was that he was talking about he realized at some point the two Penny Arcade guys, one of them played games to beat them and one of them played games to see them.
So I think a lot of people do just kind of like enjoying the world of the video game
and if something's hard and it's preventing them from seeing the rest of the game, it
detracts from their enjoyment.
So I think if you're one of those people who just wants to see the whole world of the game,
yeah, I say go ahead and use a strategy guide.
Wow.
That is a very thoughtful...
I'm somebody who wants to beat the game.
Yeah.
That's my thing.
When I beat the video game that I beat, which was one of the Grand Theft Autos, I do think that I looked in the strategy guide a couple times because I just got bored of doing something shitty over and over.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I look.
I'm not too good to like – like there is a point where it's like it's no longer fun for me.
I'm either going to give up on this game or go online and get over this hump.
Sure.
And, yeah, but I think definitely, you know, when you are, you know, prime video game playing age, when you're 13 or something like that and don't have non-video game responsibilities, yeah, it's a little more kind of usual to just sit there and toil over something.
a little more kind of usual to just sit there and toil over something.
But yes, when you are a fellow with a job and maybe a pet that needs tending to, yeah,
you know, go ahead and cheat a little bit.
It also depends on how many kids you have.
Yeah, if you've got a bunch of kids and they all need stuff done for them.
Right, if you are neglecting your children. Check the strategy guide, man.
Do whatever you've got to do.
Go ahead and go to Game Facts.
When you say check the strategy guide, do you mean like a Dr. Spock's or?
Sure.
Why is my child crying?
Yeah.
I've tried shaking it.
I need a kid walk through.
I've tried smearing more of its poop on him.
He seems to enjoy it.
This is going to be a nerdy thing that I did recently, but I went on Facebook.
I got so similar where someone posted one chapter of, do you ever play King's Quest
6?
I poked around with a King's Quest game, but not enough to know what they're about.
I played a little bit of Space Quest 3.
Okay.
Return to Zork, anyone.
Space Quest 3, Return to Zork.
Is that the name of it?
That's a similar kind of text-based adventure game.
I was an ace detective in Carmen Sandiego.
Does that count?
It does.
It counts for everything.
We're all winners here.
Aren't we, though?
I think it's very clear, this last bit of conversation.
But in King's Quest VI, they have on...
It has cleared that...
People were wondering whether or not we were winners.
Oh, were you guys wondering where the winners were?
They're in this fucking room.
They're right here.
Talking about their accomplishments.
What's that smell?
Oh, yeah.
Victory.
Yeah, right?
King's Quest 6 has in like 25...
As Charlie Sheen would say, we're great.
We're great.
Wait.
Since we're talking about King's Quest 6, we're going to hear your story.
Oh, yes.
Right.
And since we're talking about what winners we are, I did used to get as a child a magazine
from Sierra Online, the company that made uh the
company that made king's quest 6 and i would get uh frequent updates as to the status of the king's
quest series from said magazine well king's quest 6 i believe is supposed to be very like one of the
better ones uh in terms and that's when i played i played it for like an entire summer when i was
like a kid and then they have on YouTube the entire walkthrough.
They have someone who just screen – God bless this person.
Yeah.
They screen captured – they captured their screen and just played through the entire game going from thing to thing.
Wow, so you can watch it.
And so I'm like watching it and it's like just setting off all these weird synapse in my brain where I'm like, that fucking guy with the peppermint.
And you just like remember.
It was very, very emotional for me i would probably how i want to ask how long was the video
and how much of it did you watch it was like there are there were 20 something parts i believe online
and i made it through like 17 wow well might as well just fucking finish the 20 at that point
that's a dangerous see that's a that's a dangerous I have to fold that
17 though that's I'm guessing
17 10 minute videos
oh I don't know how long they were
170 minutes
of King's Quest
maybe I fell asleep doing it
I don't know man it's hard to remember
I understand I get that same
feeling when I watch a walkthrough for front page sports football.
That's right.
When I see a Tecmo Bowl walkthrough, I just want to watch it.
Great season of Tecmo Bowl.
Hail Mary Wright.
Hail Mary Wright.
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I'm Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart.
Jordan Morris, boy detective.
Dominic Dirkus, guest.
It's great to have Dominic Dirkus here.
Absolutely. Dominic, what's the name of your talk to have Dominic Dirkus here Absolutely Yeah
Dominic what's the name
Of your talk show again
The Anytime Show
The Anytime Show
This is a delightful program
I went on this program
With Dominic
It was at the Smod Castle
Mm-hmm
Mm-hmm
Upwards of three people
In the audience
That's right
One of whom was my wife
Yes
One of whom was my wife's pal
Uh-huh
God bless him
The other was a drifter
No there was a couple there other was a drifter.
No, there was a couple there.
There was a couple there that looked like normal people,
the Kevin Smith fans.
There was a couple there
that, yeah,
wanted me to be Kevin Smith
so badly.
Yeah, they were so disappointed.
And I couldn't give them
what they wanted.
Yeah.
I have nothing
that will give you Kevin Smith.
Well, because, I mean,
how long can you talk
about Kevin Smith for?
Probably not that long.
Well, Kevin Smith
is taking a run at the all-time record.
The thing is, there's only so many words in a given day that can be said about Kevin Smith,
and he monopolizes all of them.
Sure, right.
He uses it up.
So there's really very little left for you to say.
Right.
And I see the bind you're in in that situation.
That's right.
Let's be clear, too.
I have nothing against Kevin Smith.
I think he's quite charming.
Sure.
No, I have nothing against Kevin Smith. I think he's quite charming. Sure. No, I have nothing.
I am very into the idea of somebody having a very devoted fan base in a kind of niche way.
I think that's cool.
It was a magical place, too.
Smod Castle has now merged with the John Lovitz Comedy Club.
That's right.
Naturally.
It's a natural marriage.
It's a perfect fit.
Yeah, I mean, I remember when I saw Clerks, I went, him and the guy from SNL should get together.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Him and the pathological liar from SNL should have a Hawaiian-themed comedy club at a super mall in Burbank.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which they do now.
The thing is, is I don't know if this new club has – and now you're doing the Anytime Show at a new theater.
That's right.
But this new Smodcastle club, I wonder if it is as much of a perfect slash sad tribute to Kevin Smith as the previous Smodcastle was.
In that the previous Smodcastle literally had New Jersey Devils carpeting.
That's right. New Jersey Devils carpeting. That's right.
New Jersey Devils carpeting.
Any picture you drew of him that you mailed to him was on that wall.
Yeah.
So many pictures of him on the wall.
And again, I kind of like Kevin Smith.
I mean, I think Kevin Smith's a funny guy,
and I don't mean to seem like I'm putting him down.
It was just an amazing place.
Because it was clearly just the stuff and
backstage was no different and it was it was like stuff that like our geeky guy who had become rich
would have left over from his house that maybe he was a little too embarrassed to put in his house
even though he's not he's difficult to embarrass yeah just like fan portraits of him
and uh as i recall a lot of halo 2 action figures halo 2 action figure i mean my thing well and i
like i'm the same way i have nothing against it but i'm just like if i had a comedy theater i
would be very weirded out by images of me everywhere yeah and i guess that's balls or
that's something that makes you go like,
well, it's my theater.
Every image I have and every image and...
It's just going to be
the things I like.
Yeah.
And what I like is me.
Well, he said in...
It's a place of Kevin's own.
He said,
I'm the biggest Kevin Smith fan.
And he fully behaves that way.
Sure.
So it's like,
I suppose he's in control
of it and seems harmless enough.
Do you know where
your new home base is going to be for your show?
Yeah, we've been doing it there for like a month and a half.
It's at a place called the Underground Annex Theater over on Wilton.
Not that you've been paying attention.
On Wilton near Fountain.
I'm sorry.
Jordan.
I'm sorry.
It's on the Twitter.
It's on the, I don't know, man.
It's whatever.
It's a great show.
Dominic is a fantastic host. host i was i gotta say uh a lot of laughs were had in a four-person audience which is no mean feat
uh at that show well it's it's i i because i started off doing stand-up on the road and stuff
and and sometimes especially with these like wednesday thursday shows when you're doing that
it would be like very small crowds of people and i kept getting the advice or there was one comic
who always gave me the advice of like if you have four people show up like they paid to see a show and if you don't
like if you penalize them for the people who didn't show up it's just like yeah it's just
like what who wins sure so i'm at least going to pretend like it's a show even though the audience
knows it's not because there's four of them i'm talking into a microphone everyone's like this is
unnecessary but you know might as well have fun it was a great it was a great night out i really recommend it i don't i
imagine your audiences are continuing to grow because you're doing such a great job uh i
appreciate yeah there's been there's there's kind of a core group that comes most weeks and then
it's you know depending on the guest mom your sister what's that your mom and your sister my
mom my sister kevin smith of course. Kevin Smith, his mom, his sister.
That guy who's in all the Kevin Smith movies that's friends with Kevin Smith.
Sure.
You mean the cast of Kevin Smith movies?
Yes.
The cast?
Yeah.
Now, you guys, you also made, this is something I noticed recently, the movie you made with
your comedy group Mystery Team.
That's right.
That movie is now on the Netflix Instant.
Yes, that's right.
That happened a couple months ago.
Have you seen just a huge deluge of, oh my god, I've seen your movie notices?
I've gotten a lot more tweets about it.
Pretty much as soon as it went up on Watch Instantly, I've had a few people tweet at me every period of time.
It hasn't been an overwhelming amount, but an amount of people are tweeting like,
oh, watching this movie.
It's great.
And like tagging any combination of me, Donald, and DC and just hashtagging mystery team or something.
So that's cool.
So I figure if that percentage of people are tweeting at me about it, there must be a decent
amount of people seeing it.
I saw it at the Redbox at my 7-Eleven.
I love that.
I love that you got it out of a Redbox.
Of that buck that you cost
to rent the Redbox movie,
how much do you see personally?
Oh, me?
Like 10 bucks.
Pretty good.
Wow.
Amazing those things
aren't out of business.
That's economics.
That's Keynesian economics.
You put some money
into the system
and it generates more money.
With every rental,
7-Eleven just mails you
a Go-Go taquito.
Well, I should specify
I have a lawsuit
against 7-Eleven.
They, you know, I burned myself on a hot dog there so they've paid me ten dollars for every red box so that was the settlement we came to well okay and it's not just he should be clear
he gets ten dollars for every red box rental that's right whether or not it's mystery team
mystery team whether it's straight to dvd lost boys sequel That's right. A new Steven Seagal movie.
Right.
He and a rapper team up.
Yeah.
Kevin Ja Rule.
This is a, I mean, we talked about this when DC was on,
so I don't feel like we need to beat this dead horse.
But the Mystery Team movie is really funny.
It's really worth your time.
It's really a blast.
I mean, it's sort of like Wet Hot American Summer
in that it's a real handmade film
That some people just got together and made
And it turned out great
So people should watch that
Also MacGruber
People should also watch MacGruber
Yeah MacGruber's great
I saw MacGruber for the first time like a few weeks ago
Will Forte's writer
Sorry he's a voice in this animated show
That I'm a staff writer for
And so I was like I should watch MacGruber.
And I did.
And I was like, this is so much better.
MacGruber is hilarious.
It's like four times as good as it had to be.
It could have been.
Right.
No, and that's a great point. That MacGruber, to have been considered an artistic success, MacGruber could have been way less funny than that.
That's right.
And then it was way more funny.
MacGruber, as far as I'm concerned,
MacGruber is the new
Stuart Saves His Family.
Yeah.
It is.
I haven't seen that.
Much better than it needed to be
and actually kind of good.
Yeah.
No, and I...
I'm not a big re-watcher of movies.
I don't buy a lot of movies
to have around the house.
But I bought MacGruber
just out of support for MacGruber, like wanting MacGruber to have some money.
You wanted MacGruber himself.
I wanted MacGruber, the character, to have some money.
You actually – initially you just put a $5 bill in an envelope and wrote MacGruber, North Pole.
I love you.
Care of Broadway video.
Right, sure.
Care of Lord Michaels.
care of Broadway video.
Right, sure. Care of Lord Michaels.
And I do find myself really just like putting it on
as kind of one of those
you know, cleaning the house, I'm doing
other work kinds of movies and it's been
so valuable for that kind of thing.
Anyways, MacGruber's great. I don't mean to
get off of the topic of underappreciated
comic films, but there's something that
I feel like has really been really
important,
has really been weighing on me for quite some time that I haven't had a chance to talk about
on Jordan Jesse Go,
that I feel like I need to air.
I need to let it out.
As you guys probably know,
recently the rapper,
well, hip-hop singer,
Nate Dogg,
passed away.
Now, number one... Can you remind me what Nate Dogg was famous for?
The hook on every G-Funk record ever
Do you know Regulators?
No, no, gosh
The early 90s hip-hop
I just don't know anything about
Not even like Regulate?
I mean, I kind of
On the Lower East Side of the LBC
On a mission to find Mr. Warren G.
Sounds familiar.
Yeah.
I know some things about bombastic.
Is that Shaggy?
Yes.
No.
Yeah.
No, but that is...
I just don't even...
What's Shaggy doing?
Okay.
Well, he...
Do you remember Area Codes by Ludacris?
Nope.
I got hoes.
Oh, wait.
I do remember that.
Yeah.
What about...
Hey, hey, hey, hey, smoke weed every day.
That's him.
I do remember.
You must have heard someone say that.
I do, yes.
I mean, I have had smoke weed every day said and yelled at me.
You're a person in this world.
I went to UC Santa Cruz for college, and that was yelled at me from moving cars.
that was Yelled at Me from Moving Cars.
I think the point is that almost every hip-hop hit record from like 1992 to 2002 had Nate Dogg on the hook.
A great singer.
And also, for those out there who are music fans,
made a great solo album.
He made one, not that great solo album,
but I really like his second solo album.
It's got some great tunes on it.
It's called Music and Me.
I really recommend it. You can probably get's got some great tunes on it. It's called Music and Me. I really recommend it.
You can probably get it for 99 cents from your Amazon.com.
But he passed away recently.
It was a very sad occasion for people in hip-hop.
Not least, his good friend Snoop Doggy Dogg.
They had grown up together in Long Beach.
Nate Dogg was somebody's cousin.
I didn't know they were childhood friends.
Yeah, I think they were childhood friends. Was the fact fact that their names had dog it was that were that a
coincidence i was holding back on asking that question but i'd like to know that too yeah i
wonder well i mean snoop doggie dog was called that definitely because his mom called him snoopy
like snoopy was his like childhood nickname um I don't know about Nate, though.
I mean, there were a lot of dogs at the time.
Yeah.
Short dog, too short.
It's the Smith of rapper names.
Sure.
Yeah.
And I think it was a very sweet tribute
that Snoop Doggy Dog got a huge tattoo of Nate Dog
immediately after Nate Dog died.
And it was really lovely. It's a picture of Nate Dog immediately after Nate Dog died. And it was really lovely. It's a picture
of Nate Dog, a big picture of Nate Dog, and it's a nice picture of Nate Dog. I mean, to the extent
that a picture in tattoo form can be nice. And I thought that was really sweet, but there was
something about it that was unusual to me. Underneath it said, Nate Dog, you know, 1964 to 2011 or whenever, however old he was.
And then underneath that, in Old English script, you know.
Sure, standard someone died tattoo font.
Yeah.
It said, all dogs go to heaven
Is it possible
That these were two separate tattoos
Yes
One was about Nate Dogg
And one was just about
His favorite Don Bluth film
Is it possible that maybe Snoop Dogg
Is going to get a series of Don Bluth tattoos
I'm very impressed That you could put a name to
All Dogs Go to Heaven, the movie.
Yes.
I just know it's an animated Disney movie.
Kind of a non...
Yeah, I don't know too much about him,
but he's a French guy who made the kind of knockoff Disney movies.
Well, Jordan, I mean, it's not impossible.
I mean, Snoop Dogg does have that Fievel Goes West tattoo.
Yeah, is there a Land Before Time tattoo on him somewhere we haven't seen?
He does have a Cool World tattoo.
I don't know if that's the same.
Do you think Snoop Dogg, before he got the All Dogs Go to Heaven under the thing, he said, it's not tacky enough yet.
Yeah, what could I do?
This seems like just a touching tribute. It needs to be tacky. It's a slightly weird thing to say, but to immortalize on your flesh.
Right.
To permanently, and I should clarify that all dogs, the dog is spelled with two Gs.
If it hadn't, if it wasn't, I would be with Jordan.
I would be like, then it was about the movie first.
wasn't i would be with jordan i would be like then it was about the movie at first and it's also presumptuous i think because a nate dog if i recall correctly was a convicted second degree
murderer and he hated women he he was like like you know there's a lot going on for women not a
fan of women and i'm don't don't don't quote me on the degree of the murder,
but I know that at some point he shot someone.
There was a murder rap.
Yeah, there was a murder rap.
And also, I kind of feel like it's one of those things where
it's as though Prince Charles, after Princess Diana died, said,
people will always remember the couple, Princess Diana and me.
Because Snoop Doggy Dog himself is a dog.
Oh, so yeah.
So maybe the tattoo was like, it's also saying, I'm also going to heaven and it's going to
be awesome.
He's like trying to ride.
He's trying to use that.
By the way, let's not forget, also an accused he's a quitted murderer yeah an
accused murderer um he's trying to like just slide in on the goodwill generated by the death of his
friend i think with the tattoo yeah yeah i think i think he got something i think he thinks that
a tattoo is a binding contract with god yeah yeah does he he have a tattoo of pimped out Taz at all?
He does have black Bart Simpson.
Well, it's just a regular Bart Simpson, but on his skin it's black Bart Simpson.
Oddly enough, he does have a tattoo of a framed picture of Guns N' Roses.
It's not just an Axl Rose tattoo.
It is a frame.
Framed picture.
It is exactly 8x10.
I think his most beautiful tattoo, though,
is his tattoo of an extensive discussion
of underappreciated comedy films
of the last two years or so.
Yeah, three kind of clever white dudes
sitting around a card table.
Three moderately clever white dudes.
We'll be back in just a second on Jordan, Jesse, go.
Jordan, Jesse, go.
I'm Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart.
Jordan Morris, boy detective.
Dominic Dirkus, guest.
Other people have used guest.
I want you to know that.
I figured, but I don't.
You don't want to embarrass yourself.
Anything else would be bragging or feel weird like, oh, this is the part where I give my
credits or how people would know me.
No, no.
Just make up a funny nickname for yourself.
Oh.
Just think about it.
Crackles.
Yep.
That's my nickname.
We'll take it.
Crackles.
Run with that.
Crackles.
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It sounds fantastic,
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A nice,
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And finally, this guy Colin and his lovely graphic novel called Amy in the Spring of 1990.
Jordan is holding it for the whole podcast audience to hear.
It's very handsome.
It looks to be kind of a serious comic about growing up and emotions.
Yeah, it's a lovely love story set in the world of a middle school student, a middle
school version of Colin, I think.
And it's really sweet.
I read it.
It's really sweet and charming and very good looking,
very handsome and attractive.
Absolutely.
And it'll...
Nice on your shelf.
Yeah.
And it also features at the very end,
or at least our copy does,
an actual wallet size photo of the author
from when he was in middle school.
Wearing a sweet Quicksilver t-shirt.
Yeah, that's the good stuff.
And it's also set in the Bay Area, which I like.
Sure.
I support that.
I'm guessing the bowling alley they visit in there.
I'm going to guess Sarah Bowl.
Is that the bowling alley?
Yeah, it could be Haight Street Bowl.
Okay.
The Rockin' Bowl.
That's a good guess.
Hard to say, but I'm going to say Cerebol,
because you've got more league games there and so on.
So there's a good venue for that.
Is Cerebol like a play on cerebral?
S-E-R-R-A, like Junipero Cera.
Oh, okay.
Junipero Cera.
Yeah, it's not Cerebol.
Okay, I get it.
Like cerebral palsy.
That's right.
They're not trying to invoke that, are they?
No, yeah. They're just trying to remind you how shitty you look when you're bowling. That's right They're not trying to invoke that They're just trying to remind you
How shitty you look when you're bowling
That's over at palsy
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Wow, it sounds pretty easy.
Dominic, I think think look, I know that
I don't mean to be rude
but I know that Mystery Team
was not a smash
hit in the theaters. Okay, no
that's fine. That's not rude.
And it seems like in retrospect
maybe you should have
dropped the $200 to get a
commercial message on Jordan Jesse Go. Oh, that's
where this was headed? Yeah.
I mean, we, at the time, we had the $200 in our hand.
Sure.
And we were like, are we going to walk it down there?
You know, are we going to walk it down to the tower office that you have?
Like, you've got this giant office in downtown Los Angeles.
It's very intimidating.
Yeah.
You ended up giving it to Bobby Moynihan from Saturday Night Live.
You gave it to Bobby Moynihan for gas money to get to New Hampshire.
Yeah.
You're saying
you could have had
a Fast Five on your hands?
Yes.
I could have had
a Fast Five.
Let's talk about
Fast Five in a second.
That's how much money
we would have made you.
Five dollars.
I saw Fast Five.
I want to thank
Xena who sent me
an adorable onesie
with a bow tie
printed on it
for my upcoming child.
Wow. Very nice. Thank you very much, Xena. We're printed on it for my upcoming child. Wow.
Very nice.
Thank you very much, Zena.
We're all looking forward to the upcoming child.
Yes, we are.
That's a fun way to say it.
Oh, okay.
Well, you said it sarcastically.
I was like, what's his angle?
No, it's just kind of a fun way to say it.
We're all looking forward to the upcoming child.
I've been buying advertisements in movie pre-roll trivia contest type things.
Is that bad?
I heard that's a good place to
get the word out about
upcoming releases.
And upcoming babies, similarly.
Gotta get the word out.
The hot new baby that's got
Hollywood talking. Whenever I have
a baby, I'm gonna want everyone to know that baby's
coming up next. You gotta create buzz.
You gotta take the baby to Comic-Con. You gotta have. You've got to take the baby to Comic-Con.
You've got to have a pre-screening of the baby at Comic-Con.
What are bloggers saying about the baby?
What's the internet?
What are the kids saying?
What about the Twitterverse?
Hashtag new baby.
Oh, let's do a hashtag update.
Okay.
Here's the thing.
Last week on this program, we complained about the fact that our friends at My Brother, My Brother and Me,
We complained about the fact that our friends at My Brother, My Brother and Me, our frenemies, if you will, have been so much more successful on Twitter than we have.
They have a hashtag, MBMBAM, for My Brother, My Brother and Me.
And in a given week, there will be literally hundreds of tweeters about the hashtag MBMBAM.
Now, we decided that given our, number one, our larger audience.
Our shorter title.
Number two, our good looks and charisma.
Yeah.
Number three, these golden pipes.
Mm-hmm. We could motivate our audience to dominate their audience.
I like this.
In what we ended up calling a friendship war.
Hashtag-based friendship war.
Now, what happened is this.
The war went on, and in some ways it was a great success.
We introduced the hashtag, pound Jesse, Jesse, go.
JJ, go. Pound JJ, go. success we introduced the hashtag pound jesse jesse go jj go pound jj go and it was uh you know
we were we were really happy to see lots of tweeters about it however i don't know how to
count tweeters against each other and i realized that that was a sure that'll be an essential sort
of central flaw in my plan, in my Twitter plan.
I have an idea.
Yeah.
Please.
Maybe they could hashtag JJ Go and then like one, two, three, like in the order in which
they're hashtagging it.
So that way the last person to hashtag it, the number that's at the end is the total
number.
I don't think people want to do research.
So they're asking people to do research.
But we got some...
Oh, come on. We got some great tweets. I mean, I just searched it do research. They're asking people to do research. Oh, come on.
We got some great tweets.
I mean, I just searched it right now as we're recording this.
Lucas, for example, has tweeted, who is at I Make Nice Stuff.
He tweeted, sometimes you have more gooseberry jam than you know what to do with.
He hashtagged that.
JJ Go.
Again, does not have to be about the show.
We just want to win.
We love it if you do want to tag something that is about the show.
I mean, here's somebody who the next one down is this guy whose name is Sheep Lover.
Oh, come on.
Come on.
Have some class.
Sheep Fucker.
Yeah, Sheep Fucker is the classy way to be.
He said, just spotted a Jordan Jesse go tote bag at the Donald Glover show in New York City.
Your Derek comedy comedy.
It's nice.
That's great.
There are lots and lots of.
Look, how about this?
Here's something from Transgender World News.
I wonder how Cher feels that Chaz Bono is transgender and Cher is still the biggest freak in the family.
That's hashtag to you guys?
It's hashtag JJ Go.
We'll take it.
You know what?
Sure.
That's explicitly what you asked for, Jordan.
Isn't it confusing?
A lot of it's confusing.
I don't know how to feel about that.
Yeah.
Here's someone named Katie who was possibly upset that some policemen were laughing at her because she was laughing at Mary Roach on last week's Pound at JJ Go.
There's also a German woman named Janine who is at JJ Go.
We don't recommend that you tweet at JJ Go because she will be confused.
We do not know if she speaks English.
Hard to say.
What was the previous one?
The previous tweet?
The one about Chaz Bono?
Yeah, what is that?
No, the one about the police officers.
The one about the police officers.
This is KatieTaylor09.
She wrote,
Just saw two cops laughing at me as I cracked up to Mary Roach on Pound JJ Go.
Oh, okay, okay.
I thought she was worried the cops knew she was listening to you guys and stuff.
I didn't know what was...
Oh, like she was afraid of repercussions.
Yeah, cops can't know I'm listening to you guys. I didn't know what was... She was afraid of repercussions.
Cops can't know I'm listening to Jordan and Jesse go.
It's a secret podcast.
We talk about some pretty serious shit on this show. Have you heard of a movie called Loose Change?
Oh, yeah.
9-11.
It's all on Watch Instantly.
Just like Mystery Team.
They're both movies.
You have a choice.
You have a choice.
You're watching Instantly.
You go on Netflix.
You're either a Loose Change guy or a Mystery Team guy.
You cannot be both.
Can't be both.
No, no.
You can't watch mystery team, then watch the 9-11.
No, I watched loose change and it suggested mystery team.
That's how I watched it.
That's right.
You liked loose change.
You might also like.
That's right.
We wanted to be, we made sure our keywords were similar.
And also we met those guys, you saw those guys around at festivals.
Nice guy.
Yeah, they're great.
Good guys.
A lot of good ideas. I mean,. Good guys. A lot of good ideas.
I mean, people will, but a lot of good ideas.
Like, I don't know if I agree with everything they say.
Yeah.
But it's food for thought.
Makes you think.
And it's like some of the evidence, yeah, whatever.
It's like not real or something like that.
But like what the points they're bringing up are still good.
Sure.
It's still important points.
Fluoride in the water supply.
Sure.
Yeah.
Chemtrails, people.
What are they?
I don't know.
Declassified documents about landing a plane in Cuba, unloading the passengers, pretending
it crashed, you know?
Yeah.
Lyndon LaRouche.
That's right.
And finally, Lyndon LaRouche.
Anyway, so I don't know.
If somebody out there knows how to count, someone suggested on the MaxFunForum that the prize for this in the friendship war should be
that the winner should have to play a segment from the other show
and then talk about what they learned from listening to it,
which I think is a pretty solid idea.
Yeah, that's fine.
That's appropriately humiliating for either party. But also friendly. But also pretty solid idea. Yeah, that's fine. That's appropriately, you know, humiliating for either party.
But also friendly.
But also friendly and fun.
Yeah.
It's a lot of respect.
But we need to figure out a way to count these.
So while we're at it, please continue to hashtag JJ Go.
We love it if it's about the show.
It doesn't have to be.
You know, we're just doing what we can.
You know, at the end of the day, Jordan, we're just doing what we can.
Right.
Somebody said nobody Twitters
because they don't know what our Twitters are.
Jordan is Jordan underscore Morris.
I'm young American.
I feel like people can,
I feel like we can win this thing
whether or not there's an official count.
I feel like we can win it by saying we won it.
No matter what the count is,
I feel like we can Mugabe our way to victory. That's going to be our slogan. Mug we can Mugabe our way to victory.
That's going to be our slogan, Mugabeing our way to victory.
So we can strong arm our way to victory?
Yeah, well, we can have an election, lose it, call a second election, lose it, and then declare elections invalid.
Is that what he did?
Yeah, I think that's pretty sure that's a fair description.
Oh, wow. Yeah, the third time, you know you can't do another election because you're at best two out of three.
You'd have to win three more.
Yeah.
So you're like, you know what?
No more elections.
The elections are over.
Yeah, we're switching to who's been president longest.
Yeah, you have to win the president.
As the method of determining who's the...
We're going with who has the keys to the guns.
Who has the keys to the gun closet.
I'm the guy with the keys to the guns.
We'll be back in just a second on Jordan Jesse Go. La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la Thorn America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy detective. Dominic Dirkus, crackle.
It's great to have you on the program, Dominic.
Thank you.
Last week on the show, you weren't here.
I'll fill you in.
We were talking about amazing revelations from our parents.
My whole life has been a long series of revelations of crazy things that my parents have done in their lives.
revelations of crazy things that my parents have done in their lives.
And I feel very inadequate because I have basically lived my entire life avoiding crazy things.
And so I've essentially have no, nothing to spring on my kids when they're 11 or 13 or
15 or whatever.
I don't know what your family is like, Dominic.
I wouldn't presume.
Well, my parents are very kind of conservative, normal.
They're very, like, not extreme people.
Like, they never really drank much.
So there was no level of, like, your dad was never like,
hey, you know, I was married to a stripper for five days and got it annulled.
Yeah, don't tell your mother I told you this, but we actually
met this way. There's none of that.
It was all very up and up.
I've been in some weird stage
shows at the New York UCB Theater that
if I ever had to explain to my kids
why I was there doing what I was doing, I'd be like,
well, this is very difficult.
These are maybe some after-midnight Del Close
marathon kinds of things.
I saw a show at the UCB Theater in New York that culminated with an Amel Nitrate Poppers contest.
Oh, sure.
Was that the marathon?
This was at the Sketchfest NYC.
Okay.
Yeah, the Del Close Marathon late at night.
Sometimes people are doing whippets on stage.
Yeah.
You can catch that.
Whippet contest.
Sure.
It's a good time.
So many whippets. Isn't there an Catch that. Whippet contest. Sure. It's a good time. So many whippets.
Isn't there a improv show where everyone is Andrew Dice Clay?
That's a show I was in called The Dicemen, where everyone was a version of Andrew Dice
Clay.
Like, John Gemberling was Andrew Rice Clay, and he threw rice at the audience the whole
time.
Great.
And what's fun about that show is the introduction of 30 Andrew Dice Clay puns.
I was Andrew Dice Clay Aiken.
Everyone was something.
Everyone was something.
And Brett Gellman was Andrew Dice Hitler.
There was a whole parade of them.
And then once we're all out there.
I hear the pun there.
And it was a half hour show.
And so then there's 15 minutes of all of us being introduced.
The audience is laughing because we're all dressed in varying degrees of shoddy.
Andrew Dice Clay.
But then everyone's introduced
and then for 15 minutes
that mass of 40 people
has to improvise.
And that is not fun.
That's unpleasant to watch.
There is nothing funny about it.
Nothing that any of those characters
have to say to each other.
Nothing to improvise about.
So then it was 15 minutes
of us wandering around the stage.
Me basically just standing there and then it being done. And now all of those bit shows late at night are 15 minutes of us wandering around the stage, me basically just standing there, and then it being done.
And now all of those bit shows late at night are 15 minutes long.
Yeah.
Because of the Dicemen.
Because of the things like the Dicemen.
Okay, so we asked our audience to contribute there.
Oh, yeah.
They're Andrew Dice Clay puns?
Oh, you really saw me coming, huh?
Yeah.
And we got some doozies.
Brian Fernandez was screening our calls this week, and he sent us some that I think we'll enjoy.
Hi, Jordan and Jesse.
This is a response to the action item this week, shocking parent revelations.
And I'll try to keep it concise because it was a revelation full of many
wonderful details. But when my dad found out that I smoked pot when I was 16, he sat me down
and told me this incredible story about a trip to Mexico that he took. He met a man,
a one-legged man on a train. This man offered him a beer and told him the story of being raised as a woman, as a girl, by his mother and taught to dance and entered in dance competitions all over the world.
I'm sorry, all over Mexico, which he won and was a champion dancer until an elevator cut off his leg, and he became just a strange obese man.
After the train ride, he took my father and a cast of other characters
back to his mother's house.
His mother was a fortune teller, and they sat in her parlor,
her fortune-telling parlor, and my dad smoked his first joint and they gave him two
more joints to smoke on his way home. And my dad, who's a very proper Southern soft-spoken
gentleman, Southern gentleman told me, I smoked that joint and I went down to the market and
I could always, uh, only just stare at these melons for 20 or 30 minutes, staring at these melons.
And that was the end of his story about the first time he smoked a joint.
Thanks.
See, that's the kind of sit-down talk you want your parents to have with you.
The joint is the least important part of that story.
Yeah, right?
By far.
Of course you got a joint from these people.
It's like the eighth most unusual thing in that story. It's like, Of course. By far. Of course you got a joint from these people. It's like the eighth most,
it's like the eighth most
unusual thing in that story.
Right.
It's like, oh,
and they handed me a joint.
It's like, I would have been
surprised if they hadn't.
If it was,
if our caller had said,
well, the first time
my dad caught me
sleeping with
a one-legged
genderqueer dancer.
First time my dad
caught me staring at melons
for a half hour. he told me this story
it's a it's truly magical okay here's here's another one
hi jesse and jordan this is xena calling from seattle i have a surprising parent revelation
for you um my parents got divorced when i was a baby and i've known for a long time that
their divorce was a result of my mom's embrace of 70s-style free love.
But it wasn't until last year, at a dinner at my grandparents' house, my dad told us all my mother had slept with a famous blues musician, Taj Mahal.
So then I finally understood the significance of the Taj Mahal backstage pass in my baby photo album.
All right.
You guys are great.
I'll look forward to the next podcast.
Bye.
Oh, jeebus.
Yowza.
What I like about these stories is in neither one do I have any idea where it's headed.
Yeah.
When it gets there, look, and that's why the Taj Mahal ticket is in my baby book.
I don't know who Taj Mahal is.
Is that, I mean, obviously the famous blues musician.
He's a blues legend.
I mean, he was one of the biggest stars of the blues revival in the late 1960s and 1970s.
But he was already a middle-aged man by then.
It was him and B.D. King were the big kings of the blues revival in the 70s,
the sort of Bill Graham-driven.
He just didn't open a restaurant.
Gotcha, sure.
That's the only reason he...
Named after him.
B.B. King knew what would make him immortal.
He did open a very gaudy building in India, though.
That's right.
Very tacky.
Taj Mahal.
We build this as a tribute to blues singer Taj Mahal.
If that's not a restaurant, then what is it, though? What, Taj Mahal? Yeah, the Taj Mahal We build this as a tribute To blues singer Tash Mahal If that's not a restaurant
Then what is it though?
What?
Tash Mahal?
Yeah the Tash Mahal
It's a rotating restaurant
It's a rotating restaurant
And all their food has waffles
Oh okay
It's all waffles
That sounds pretty good
It sounds really fun
People line up for it
You can see the line outside
People are lined up
For those fucking waffles
They're great
Just the image of it's everywhere
Yeah
Absolutely for those fucking waffles. They're great. Just the image of it's everywhere. Yeah. Absolutely.
JJ Go, this is Utah from Ohio calling into action.
I know about crazy parental revelations.
And I don't know.
I'll give you three.
You can pick one.
Thanks.
My father shot a man in the foot.
He was out of the apartment that he was sharing with a bunch of people in New York when they got raided for selling drugs, and so everyone got arrested except him.
And when he first moved to New York, this was back when you could write.
You could just open a bank account and they'd give you a bunch of checks.
But the whole thing wasn't worked out yet.
So they went all over town writing enormous bad checks.
And he seems like he's a, I mean, I guess I hadn't really had much of a sense he was such a criminal.
So that's it.
A committed criminal.
Yeah.
An incredibly committed criminal.
Shot a man in the foot.
Yeah, I might have liked to have heard the particulars of that other than the fact that he was a check forger.
Well, this fella he shot in the foot was an obese mexican dancer right he shot him
in a foot in the foot so hard his foot flew into an elevator where it was chopped oh yeah that's
something i forgot to because he's an elevator sliced his foot off how did he i've never heard
of an elevator slicing anything maybe this is some crazy kind of hydraulic mexican elevator
safety standards are not the same you know how much cheaper it is to make an elevator out of razors.
You think they aren't going to?
No.
You're right.
You're kidding yourself.
So much cheaper.
There's not elevator regulation.
You're going to make that thing out of razors and machetes.
Because those are the things that are abound in nature.
Right.
You're talking about people who put cinnamon in their chocolate.
Anything can happen there.
Nothing is sacred.
Anything can happen.
Hello, Jordan, Jesse, Go.
This is Matt from Cincinnati,
and I just wanted to bring up an action item that you had brought up last week.
It was about a revelation a parent brought up, and here is my story.
My mother and father were separated before I was even born.
So my mom was driving me back to my dad's after a visit.
And we were sitting there chatting as per usual.
And at one point, my mom, out of the blue, brings up the fact that my dad was a dancer.
Take a beat.
My dad was a dancer? What, beat? My dad was a dancer?
What, you mean like a ballerina?
She looks at me with a puzzled look and says,
he didn't tell you?
I look back and say, no.
What do you mean?
She says, well,
back in a little bit after high school,
you and your Uncle Bud
were male dancers.
Strippers, Matt. They were strippers. And that was the day I realized, hey, my dad was a stripper when he was younger. We had a conversation
after that, and I realized there's a lot about my dad I didn't know. So that was my story.
Now, you mentioned earlier
that you think
the thing that links
these calls together
is not knowing
where they're going.
Yes.
I kind of knew
exactly where this was going.
I'm like,
if this is something
other than stripper dad,
I'm surprised.
I almost thought
it was weird
that he guessed ballet.
Yeah, right?
I would have guessed
male stripper.
When your dad was a dancer,
I'd go,
stripper?
I immediately assume,
I assume most
interesting is what i try to do gigolo thick dicks gigolo it's amazing the the stuff that can lurk
in the past i mentioned prodigy the rapper prodigy um prodigy's father was in a uh he's on he's on an
upcoming episode of the sound of young america his father was in a doo-wop group, a moderately successful doo-wop group, but then became a junkie and became a criminal.
And I was talking to Prodigy about how, you know, I think a lot of so-called gangsta hip-hop is kind of fantastical.
Like, it comes from a world where it's like the Goodfellas or something.
It's inspired by someone's
experience, certainly, but it's not
about stuff that
they're actually advocating or
has actually happened or whatever.
And
Prodigy pointed out that
his dad
would...
If something bad happened to Prodigy,
Prodigy's dad would send Prodigy
back out and say, don't come home
until you've beat that person up.
Here, take a knife in case you need it
and stab the motherfucker if you have
to. That was the advice. When he was like 10.
Whoa. When he was like a 9,
10-year-old kid.
Wow. They shouldn't have knives.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah yeah you gotta have num
nums you gotta get a num num and some vapo rub yeah that is uh has anyone sent you a knife for
your baby yet i have not gotten a baby bow tie onesie a widow baby knife you're gonna send your
baby out in a bow tie onesie with the knife and say settle it he comes home with any disputes
who called your onesie gay
settle it your dad your dad had to learn to be a faggot in the ghetto you're gonna have to learn
too oh man i think you just found the title from your memoir becoming faggot in the ghetto
yeah the jesse thorne story hey that's it it's not a bad title no it's all right faggot in the ghetto faggot in the ghetto yeah the jesse thorne story hey that's it it's not a bad title no it's all right faggot in the ghetto solid i mean i mean i would if i saw
that book at barnes and noble i would open it up i would be like what is this yeah i got probably
more cracker or white boy than faggot yeah but didn't 60 40 it only and you it only
constitute 60 if you call white boy and Cracker two sides of the same thing.
If you split it three ways, then probably Faggot wins.
Yeah, here's the concern.
Obviously, this is something you're going to want to option.
Right.
You want to option the screenplay.
You're going to have to change the title to Faggot in the City.
Oh, this hotel's fancy.
It's like Crocodile Dundee bits.
That's not a faggot.
You see this as a fish-out-of-water story.
That's what I see.
Faggot in the city.
He's got a suitcase.
Baby me.
Country faggot and city faggot.
Country faggot and city faggot.
Baby me has grown up as the victim of various slurs in a small country town.
That's right. And I travel to the city to meet some cholos who do the same slurs.
That's right.
Some different cholos.
Did you guys see, you know, I love Stefan on Saturday Night Live.
There was a new Stefan recently on Saturday Night Live. There was a new Stefan recently on Saturday Night Live.
And one of the lists featured, you know, this is just essentially Stefan is just a list joke.
Yeah, that's right.
Here's a thousand different crazy things.
It's my favorite thing in the world.
I'm not going to lie to you.
One hater is so precise with that character.
Hater is so amazing.
And our friend John Mulaney Helps, writes it with him
And they're brilliant
And one of the things in the list this week
Was pachucos
And I thought that was like
The most wonderful
Second only to cholo dads
Cholos
Yeah, cholo dads
I was just driving
I was driving to get something from the Office Depot.
I drove past the Little League Field.
Oh, yeah.
And I've been thinking about, you know, now I see where I live in a new light because it's like, oh, this is where my kid might grow up, you know?
I'm about to have a kid.
And our friend Al Madrigal lives nearby.
He lives in Eagle Rock.
We live not far from him.
lives nearby. He lives in Eagle Rock.
We live not far from him.
And he's always talking about the Cholo dads that are the parents of kids
on his kid's soccer team
that he's afraid of.
And I was checking out the Little League field,
saw a couple of nice Cholo dads
out there.
Had some Adidas flip-flop,
Adidas shower shoes with
striped gym
socks pulled up to their knees and shorts.
Dickies shorts.
Yeah, crumpled up 20s in shorts pockets.
Yeah, probably one of those combs that you slip over your middle finger.
That's right.
You know what I'm talking about?
Yeah, yeah.
But you know what?
I kind of like that.
I kind of like...
What's not to like about that?
I like the idea I'm glad that my kid
if I have the choice between
my kid growing up on a
on a little league baseball team
full of cholo dads
children or a little league
baseball team full of
like Hollywood prop masters
children or like
costume designers children
I'll take the cholo dads every time.
All of Dustin Hoffman's kids.
Maybe you'll make friends with a family.
You'll get to have a tamale Christmas somewhere.
Yeah.
Maybe we'll get a hotline to some empanadas.
Hey.
I was a youth soccer coach for like five years.
Oh, really?
Yeah, growing up.
And it's like the worst.
Like those youth sports families and like people who care too much.
Sure.
People who for them it's not about their kid.
It's like intense.
And it was all scary southern rednecks is who I was dealing with.
Oh, wow.
But it's interesting that the scary southern redneck wanted their kid to play soccer.
I think that, yeah, that's it.
Well, yeah, maybe what you end up with then is like really aggressive dads who the only sport their kid is capable of playing is soccer.
And they're mad about it.
Yeah, okay.
So there's an underlying bitterness that they're even at a soccer game.
That's right.
I was 15 years old and I had a full-grown man, like a 40-year-old man, tell me in front of his wife and kids that he was going to fight me in the parking lot over an off-site.
He said, I'm going to kick your ass in the parking lot and i was like oh no what did you do you were the you
were just the coach i was the linesman i was i flagged i i pointed which direction like who was
in possession of the ball and then i called offsides too and i called an offsides call that
i felt was correct sure he felt wasn't even if it wasn't correct even if i was way off he does not
give him the right to fight me in the parking lot.
Now, was there a mom in this situation?
Mom was nowhere around.
I think mom was embarrassed.
Okay, that was going to be—
Those situations where they're just like, oh, isn't he so, and I'm like physically threatening?
Yes, yes.
Here's the thing.
I grew up playing Park League baseball in the inner city.
And, you know, most of the kids' parents on my team were great.
And my parents never really came to my games.
I was a very sort of independently driven kid.
Like, my parents didn't have cars or anything, so they didn't need to give me a ride to the game.
I would take the bus to the game.
And, you know, was uh it was fine and the reason that it was fine was the one kids one kid had a parent who came to every game
um and it was this mom and the mom would come to every game and every she was just a tough woman
like a bitten by life woman like i back, she probably was 35.
I mean, but to me, she seemed 89 years old,
but also like prison years.
Right.
Like a lot of bench presses.
Yeah.
And she would come to every single game,
and every single game, she would be so fucking drunk.
Just so drunk, yelling obscenities at every player on the field.
Wow.
And our coach.
Our coach was the sweetest guy ever.
His name was Little Reggie.
Oh, come on. Little Reggie would get yelled at over just these horrible profanities.
And the poor kid just had to sit there.
And his mom would yell at him when he did something wrong.
And these are games in the morning, right?
Oh, jeez.
I was drunk in the morning at a kid's soccer game?
Exactly.
Little league game, baseball game.
Yeah, I wasn't.
Oh, look.
No, I get it.
No, come on.
But I wasn't a faggot.
That's in the foreword to your memoir.
You didn't do anything European.
God forbid.
You know what?
I've been thinking about that lately.
I've been thinking about my child and the relationship I hope he has to sports.
And to Cholo Dads.
And to Cholo Dads.
I hope he has a friendly relationship with Cholo Dads.
You'd like to have a Cholo Dad mentor.
They have good barbecues.
They have good barbecues.
You want to get in on that.
Yeah.
They have good barbecues.
You want to get in on that.
Yeah.
But no, I really hope that I can do whatever it takes to trick my kid into liking sports.
I don't know what you do to make a kid like sports. I grew up liking sports, and I know some...
I think it starts by throwing a ball in there, seeing what they do with that.
Just throw...
Just turn a ball in wherever they are and just see if they...
Yeah.
What you do is you just...
In the crib, throw a Nerf ball in there.
Yeah.
And then throw some scrapbooking materials in there, too.
See which one they crawl over to.
That's right.
Do they start playing ball or do they start scrapbooking?
Have a bunch of naturally occurring hoops in your house.
You're right.
I don't...
Have pits.
Have some pits.
See how they navigate the pits.
The one thing that I don't want, though, it's important to me that my kid likes sports.
And, you know, I mean, obviously, if he doesn't like sports, I'm not going to be crushed.
But I would love it if he liked sports because I like sports and it's a good thing to have in life.
You don't have to love sports or be good at sports.
I mean, I was never especially good.
But, you know, just to have that kind of fluency.
You know what I mean?
And the interest.
If the interest is there, you can hang out, talk about sports.
Yeah, absolutely.
You can talk about sports with practically, you know,
75% of the people of your gender.
That's correct.
And so I think that would be great.
My only concern is that I don't want him to become an athletics enthusiast.
Because while it is healthy, I just don't know what happens to somebody who plays sports so...
I just can't imagine a sadder thing than doing something that you start getting worse at when you're 24 and inexorably get worse at for the rest of your life yeah i mean i never i played
soccer i played a bunch of sports like you know competitively and not but i was never in like a
high school i wasn't that good yeah so i never was ever in the mindset of like maybe sports is my
thing like i was never like i'm gonna go to college because of sports like it never really
even seriously entered my mind and i feel like I run the risk.
I mean, you know, I don't know.
My wife is healthy and athletic, and I was not a horrible athlete.
I mean, I was no good, but I was...
So the gene pool's there, you're saying.
Yeah.
So we got what it takes.
But what if there's an anomaly and he turns out to be good, and then I got to deal with
a kid that wants to go play sports all the time.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't want to have a 15-year-old in my house that wants a weight set.
Right.
Well, and also, then he might be, like, bigger and stronger than you.
You can't have that.
No, sir.
No.
No, you have to be physically intimidating to your kid at all times throughout his life.
Yeah, absolutely.
Otherwise, what do you got?
Yeah, he's just got to know that at any point he gets socked in the mouth.
The key is to not give him any calcium.
Oh, yeah.
That's right.
No calcium.
As little protein as you can get away with.
Sure.
You don't want him to have brittle, breakable bones.
No.
But if you can get light, flexible fish-type bones, that's ideal.
Yeah.
Well, are you worried that he'll learn to fly?
Is that a concern?
That maybe he'll have some sort of leathery kind of growth between his arm and his side?
Then maybe his bones will be hollow.
Like if maybe some flying squirrel something is in there somehow.
Yeah, you know, gliding.
I should say, are you worried that he'll learn to glide?
I don't think he will not learn to fly.
Certainly that's some sort of mutant I'm describing.
That's crazy.
But he will be able to glide.
He will, yes, glide from tree to tree.
The problem is that skin that runs between the elbow and the bottom of the rib cage runs in my family.
Yeah.
So if he has these weak bones, you got a glider on your hands.
Yeah, you see him up in a tree, hop into another tree.
I guess.
You're going to go, how did he get the sweet nectar?
I love sweet nectar.
I guess the moral of the story is you can't control who your kid's going to grow up to be.
Yeah.
That's right.
That's right.
He might be a sports enthusiast.
He might be a squirrel man.
We'll be back in just a second on Jordan, Jesse, Go.
Jordan, Jesse, Go.
I am Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart.
Jordan Morris, boy detective.
Dominic Dirkus, Crackle, once again.
The nickname Crackle.
Don't feel dumb saying the nickname over and over again.
It's part of the show.
Well, you know, I just want people to know that I love it and chose it.
You're all about it.
That's it.
That's what I want.
Okay, here we go.
On our program from time to time, we ask that our listeners give us a call at 206-984-4FUN
when something momentous happens to them for our segment, Momentous Occasions.
Let's go to the tape.
Hey, this is Eli from Pennsylvania calling with a momentous occasion.
Today I was riding my bike down a very, very publicly used bicycle path.
And I saw a couple off the side of the bicycle path having sex outside in fairly plain view
with both of their pants down.
About 300 yards
because I couldn't stop
because I was afraid. About 300
yards down the path, I saw
a nun dressed in her nun attire
briskly walking in the opposite direction.
Alright, thanks.
Ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha.
That got good. As they have people fucking outdoors, All right, thanks. seen people fucking that weren't you people fuck yeah i mean i've opened doors and been like and it's i mean and you know who knows how far along things were but yeah it was definitely
that was the road they were driving yeah i've seen some hefty roommate making out that was
stopped as soon as i got there but no yeah i mean i've i feel like in at least a couple of parties
i've opened doors and then been like i i saw some people fucking in a dorm room once that didn't close their blinds.
Donald saw people fucking at a Bank of America ATM.
Oh yeah.
He tweeted about it.
I think I saw a live tweet.
He tweeted about it.
And the tweet's great because there,
I mean,
it's a,
it's an ATM.
So it's visible to the whole street.
It's on like Broadway.
It's like the ATM I would go to every time in college.
And there's just some guy on the like table where you're supposed to write out checks and stuff.
In New York, this is more common.
There's the ATMs that are in this enclosed space that you need your ATM card to get into.
To swipe to get into so that homeless people don't just go in there and sleep because it's essentially 24-hour shelter.
They get in there anyway.
It's fine.
But this couple was just – like she has her back against the glass and he is just having sex with her.
Yeah, they don't seem to – yeah.
And then another – and then apparently a person walked in, withdrew money.
And got money.
Yeah, and got money and left.
I saw – I saw not sex the other day, but I was coming home and I should describe my apartment complex.
It's kind of – it's these two buildings and it's one story and they just – they're long.
They go back several units and it's kind of like a gauntlet of apartment buildings.
And I'm walking in.
It's really late at night, and I hear this bang, bang, bang that just caused me to whip around.
And I look in my neighbor's window.
It's, you know, 2 in the morning.
His lights are on, and he is – the banging is him hanging a portrait in the nude.
It was the most
David Lynch-y thing that
ever happened to me, and I was
fucking freaked out. I wouldn't have
been surprised if he had turned his head to
look at me, and he would have been wearing clown makeup.
It was so fucking scary.
I see this naked man with a hammer.
You reached into your pocket, and you came out
with a piece of apple pie.
Right.
Sure.
Yes, exactly.
Highly symbolic.
It was very symbolic.
Although I can't say what the symbolism was.
Hard to say.
Symbols don't have to mean things.
Nope.
Lesbians.
Hey, Jordan.
Hey, Jesse.
This is Clayton in Los Angeles.
I'm calling with a momentous occasion.
I wasn't able to call immediately when it happened because I was in a loud food court.
But I was just sitting down to eat lunch, and a weird old Chinese man walked up
and put down on the table what looked like a little keychain that was a combo bottle opener,
nail clipper, emery board, et cetera.
And it had a little picture on it depicting the crucifixion of christ
and there was a little card attached that said i am deaf these items help feed my family
please donate two dollars or 250 for a good luck and i didn't touch it because i was in the middle
of my burger and about a minute later the weird old Chinese guy came back.
He looked at me like I had just wiped my ass with the thing.
He picked it up off the table and walked away.
So I'm pretty sure I've just had a curse put on me by Chinese Jesus,
and I just hope I get to hear one more episode of Jordan F. Kigo
before my imminent violent death.
Thanks, guys. That's jumping imminent violent death. Thanks guys.
That's jumping to a conclusion.
That happens.
Yeah.
It's a thing that happens.
Chinese Jesus.
Yes.
Chinese Jesus exists.
Just in general,
folks being super financially desperate who don't speak the language too well
might just kind of in broken English half offer you something they hope you'll
give them money for.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't think it's that. I mean,
obviously getting a dirty look is bizarre.
That's not that weird, though. Those things happen.
It's not technically a curse. Sure.
Although most foreigners are trying
to curse you. Well, sure. Or trick you.
Old ones? Oh, hell yeah.
They were alive back when
witches were alive. Yeah. Why are you so
old? Magic. Yeah, yeah.
How'd you get to be so old?
Has magic helped?
Just as an example, recently I was cursed by Robin Leach.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, from Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous.
It was actually kind of an honor.
He's fat now.
Very fat.
Very fat. He's still kicking around?
What's he doing?
Corpulent.
I see him at stuff.
Oh, really?
Is he around?
I work a lot of press events, and he will just be wandering around.
Being very fat fat what a great
i think the last time i saw him at the mma awards i shit you not i mean still wearing like yachting
clothes like open shirt with you know kind of wispy gray chest hair being very fat at the MMA Awards. Armbar! That's my Robin Leach impression.
As many skull t-shirts as the eye can see.
Everything's got skulls on it.
Tap out.
Don't be a pussy.
Hi, this is Jordan Jesse Go.
I am Dylan.
I live in Baltimore, Maryland, and I go to a public arts high school.
And I just got home from school and checked my phone for messages,
and my grandmother calls me at the voicemail saying that she wants me to be careful and quote on the lookout for John Waters who
lives in Baltimore and likes to you know walk around and be friendly to everybody and you
know give me the people and be just generally the nicest person on earth and to be on the lookout for mr john waters shows that i uh do not catch the gay
the gay from him or as she put the homo itis yay i like the idea that john waters is kind of a
patient zero yeah it's kind of like a place that homosexuality
started. Like, all the
gayness spreads.
And it's a proximity thing. Right.
Yes, exactly. Wouldn't it be such
an honor to catch homo-itis from
John Waters? If you're gonna
catch it, I mean, who else would you
like, where else would you go? Oh, sure. It's like getting
turned by Dracula.
By THE Dracula. You're not some dude who getting turned by Dracula. By the Dracula.
The Dracula.
You're not some dude who got bit by Dracula.
You're fucking Dracula.
Yeah.
This is an honor.
Sure.
You're the count himself.
That's great.
Yeah, I mean, just getting turned by some, you know, whatever, gay dude having brunch
while wearing short shorts.
I mean, that's one thing, but Mr. John Waters.
I think that the only
possible
I think that
the only possible thing
that would be better than
the Dracula would be, like
Count Dracula would be Count Von
Count from Sesame Street. Sure.
If he bit you and turned you into
a Dracula. I like, I also like this kind of idea that's in there that like, you know, maybe
the reason, part of the reason that like older people are so homophobic is because they don't
know a lot.
Like, you know, there's just no gay people around them that they know of.
So, you know, it's hard for them to be sympathetic or understanding.
So like, I like this idea that the only gay people are the famous ones we know about.
That's right.
Like, there's a gay guy in Baltimore.
I've seen him.
He directs movies.
You know, like.
You can't.
He's there.
Like, every gay person is accounted for because they are, you know, we've seen them in the media something else i i feel like is that john waters of all celebrity
homosexuals is the one who would most enjoy giving someone homo i did sure like i feel like john
john waters is who has been a guest on the sound of young america twice and one of my favorite
sound of young america guests ever would really get a kick out of it if he had that power. That's right.
Yeah, he would probably abuse it.
Yeah, absolutely. He would probably shoot gay rays from his fingertips.
The reality is that it's a negative stereotype that all gay men, and especially all older
gay men, are Lotharios.
However, John Waters is definitely a Lothario.
She's wrong about how being gay works,
but she's right about how John Waters works.
Yes, she may not
understand homosexuality, but
and also, isn't that weird
that someone who is so bigoted
is familiar with John Waters, like
a really countercultural
figure. You're keeping tabs. Yeah, like
how do you know who that is, but also
you're bigoted? How does that work? The thing is,
ultimately, if you're in Baltimore,
you only have
like three famous people. You got
John Waters, Cal Ripken
Jr. And everyone who
was in The Wire.
The characters The Wire was based
on. I was just gonna say, a crab.
Those are the three things
you have. Oh, there's the baltimore
crab that one crab yeah yeah you know i've heard about that crab oh i've tasted his delicious cakes
sure i hear he's gay though yeah so oh man can do you think we could maybe get john waters in here
to homos up a little bit uh hey sure oh that would be so fun. Especially given your new autobiography title.
Yeah.
I'd be happy to come.
Oh, jeez.
Jesse and John Waters sitting in a tree.
H-O-M-O-I-N-G.
Home owning?
Yes.
You own a home together?
Scared of the homo-itis.
Yeah.
I also like the good old-fashioned put-itis at the end of something.
It's a disease.
Right, yes.
That famous Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae bailout is actually headed by John Waters.
Oh, okay.
He is leading a lot of people to home ownership.
John Waters is so great.
Oh, man.
There's this part in his book, which, by the way, members of the Judge Sean Hodgman post-apocalyptic justice squad got in their justice kits.
This is his new book, Role Models.
There's this part about Johnny Mathis and just how John Waters is so loving towards Johnny Mathis.
And he's so respectful of Johnny Mathis's particular band of Republican closeted homosexuality.
It is just so touching.
And you're just like, man, John Waters might be the greatest bon vivant in the world.
Like, who could top him, right?
Like, who's better than that?
No, not me.
Our friend John Hodgman might make a play for it at some point, but he's got to become even more of a caricature of himself.
What about Dracula?
Yeah, Dracula's...
Count Chocula, even.
Sure, yeah.
Count Chocula.
Well, he gives you gingivitis
What about Sam Malone from Cheers?
Ooh, yeah, man
That's pretty good
Can't keep Diane hanging on forever
Yeah, yeah
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men on the team mystery man how do you feel about the movie oh i'm sorry i interrupted your separate
plug i apologize mystery man with uh janine garofalo and kel aka yes aka the greatest
disappointment of jesse's life ages 0 to 16 oh mystery men was Men was? Oh, God. Yeah.
I could not...
When I was 14 years old, maybe 15 when that movie came out, I could not have loved Ben
Stiller, Jeanine Garofalo, William H. Macy.
I feel like I saw that my senior year of high school.
Fucking Pee Wee Herman was in that.
19 when that came out?
No, I was not.
Huh.
I was definitely like 15.
Anyway.
14 or 15. I have a skewed timeline that I was not. I was definitely like 15. Anyway. 14 or 15.
I have a skewed timeline
that I forget
when I saw Mystery Men.
Okay, but I mean,
my point is
that it basically
was a movie
that brought together
every person.
Look at that.
I was 18.
1999.
Look who knows more
about when Mystery Men
came out.
Oh, well.
Did you know that
it was directed
by the guy who directed the Erwin Burr commercial?
Ooh.
That was why it was so horrible.
That was his big gig after that.
Had a lot of funny jokes in the script,
a lot of gifted people in it.
That Erwin Burr commercial was the biggest deal ever.
Sure.
I don't think I've ever experienced a commercial.
That was the first funny commercial, I think.
I believe so, yeah.
I was having this, not to derail our outro
too much but i was having this conversation today that you were you were recently trying to teach
the world to sing in perfect harmony right yeah um uh i uh like if you showed people in 1992 our
commercials now they would be so freaked out about how all our commercials are weird.
Like, they just have to be weird.
Like the Skittles commercials.
Messing with Sasquatch.
Hamsters driving cars.
Anyway.
But I guess they had Big Mac tonight, then.
Yeah, we did have Big Mac tonight.
But Big Mac tonight was not intended to be weird.
We would seem to America in the 50s
what Japan seems to us now.
That's great.
No, that's perfect.
All of their culture and media is just like, how does that make sense to anybody?
And it's like the Skittles thing where it's like, I turn everything into Skittles.
Eat Skittles.
It's like, what the?
And then my beard feeds me Skittles.
That's right.
I think you could show people of any era Little Richard, no matter what project he's pushed, product he's pushing, and they would be made uncomfortable by it.
He's made people uncomfortable for 60 years now.
Yeah, just the strangest type of charisma that man has.
So much of it, too.
He's so amazing.
He's so fantastic and great and so weird and upsetting.
Yeah, yeah.
And he always, he's constantly saying, makes my big toe shoot up in my boot,
just over and over and over.
Maybe that was that one time I saw his content.
He used that joke like six times.
Makes my big toe shoot up in my boot.
Am I right?
What are you?
I don't know.
I'm not gay.
No one asked you.
Me and Johnny Mathis.
You just yelled, I'm not gay.
Me and Johnny Mathis, You just yelled, I'm not gay. Me and Johnny Mathis, not gay.
Oh, man.
Yeah, what?
Johnny Mathis clapping?
Yeah, that's it.
Good call.
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Some nice non-Jesse and Jordan
being there meet-ups. There's going to be one
coming up in New York for our friends Never Not Funny
in their live show. Tentative.
Yeah. I will start a thread on the forum.
Is there interest
in a London meet-up?
Putting it out there. If there's interest,
we could put something together.
Who do you know in London?
What access did you just gain to London?
I'm not saying it's going to happen.
I'm just saying if I were to host one in London,
is there interest?
This feels like a trap.
This feels like a weird trap.
It is a trap.
Yes, it is a trap.
I wonder if we could get our pal Josie Long,
English comedian Josie Long, to come to this meetup.
I don't know.
If it were to happen.
If there was interest.
If it were to happen.
If there was interest.
You've got to show...
They've got to show you something, you know?
Yeah, I mean, there's got to be some...
Yeah.
Otherwise, I'll just go to the British Museum.
I once started a Facebook...
I once started a Facebook...
I'll just see the Rosetta Stone.
Wait, you're going to...
Oh, okay.
I thought you meant you're going to do a Rosetta Stone DVD set to learn English or something.
Oh, yes.
I don't know where this goes.
Because I only speak Sanskrit right now.
That's right.
I'm speaking phonetically.
We should clarify that.
Yes, I'm speaking phonetically, but...
Purely.
I don't know what any of this means.
Like Gerard Depardieu in My Stepfather the Hero.
That's right.
Like that Kids in the Hall sketch.
You have no idea what you're saying.
Right.
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Dot org.
No, wait.
That was my Twitter.
Is that Dominic Dirkus?
Yes.
Oh, who were you supposed to be?
Yeah, DominicDirkus.org.
Yeah.
Yes.
I personally am a non-profit organization.
Yes, and that is all a.edu
because I am one of those publicly traded
universities.
Publicly
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I'm tired, you guys.
Nighty night. Goodbye.