Jordan, Jesse, GO! - Flop Jacks, with Tig Notaro

Episode Date: March 25, 2024

For the second and final week of the MaxFun Drive 2024, we are joined by co-host of the podcast Handsome/brilliant stand up comedian Tig Notaro  for a conversation about pancakes, toxoplasmosis, cat scratch fever, and so much more.Watch Tig's brand new special Hello Again which premieres on March 26th on Amazon Prime Video.And please listen to Tig's podcast Handsome which will soon post an episode with a very special surprise guest.Make sure to support this great network by heading on over to maximumfun.org/join

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Jordan Morris, Duke of Decadence. Oh my gracious! This is the last thing I expected to begin the program with. The Duke of Decadence. Wow! I didn't even know you were a member of the Land of Gentry, Jordan. Oh yes, Jesse, for years I, you know me, I enjoy indulging in pleasures that others would find sinful, but I find positively perfect.

Sure, no, I did know that about you. Like I knew that you love to cross your legs on a completely brightly lit white set and then eat Yo Play yogurt, for example. Not what I'm talking about this time, but yes, I do love that. Okay, what are you talking about this time, if I may ask?

Well, I had a positively decadent morning that I want to tell you all about. Okay, Duke, spill it. So I don't know if you know this about me, Jesse, but my Instagram algorithm has now taken to serving me exclusively kind of two camera videos from excitable guys who will cut a breakfast burrito down the middle and then show you the cross section.

That's it. That's all I'm getting and I couldn't be happier. I wanna see that, show me the cross section. Show me those layers. I'll see this. Yeah. I ate a burrito, a classic Los Angeles burrito the other day at a joint called Yucca's.

Okay. Oh yeah, sure, I've been there. That's a great burrito. Legendary great burrito. And all the beans were down at one end. That's why I wanna see the cross section. I want the layers. That's the essential component of burrito and all the beans were down at one end. That's why I wanna see the cross section. I want the layers. That's the essential component of burrito construction.

And that is, I think, what these Instagram influences are doing. They're showing you burritos with perfect distribution and we thank them for their service. I saw a burrito guy the other day who went to a spot that I think both of us really love. You know, yeah. We do thank them for their service.

The thin burrito line that separates us from hunger. Yes, we bang our pots and pans every night at 8 p.m. for the men bisecting the burritos. Indeed. I saw a guy who he was going to a spot that I think we both love, the Lucky Boy in Pasadena. Wonderful spot. It's sort of a classic Southern California fast food

restaurant in that it has sort of a little kind of indoor plastic chair booth situation, and then a big outdoor order and eat on a patio with those kind of, sort of like those kind of round tables with a parasol, like a fiberglass parasol above them type situation. Yeah, real classic. So it's pastrami inexplicably.

Yeah, so a giant menu, the only thing I think people care about are their breakfast burritos, which have become legendary. Although I've had a patty melt there and it's pretty good. So I saw a guy, and I've seen, there's a lot of videos of these types of guys go into the Lucky Boy. But this guy told me something. I've lived in Pasadena in almost two years. I didn't know this.

And this is something decadent. This is something decadent. This is something decadent. There's a secret menu, apparently, at the Lucky Boy, where if you ask them, they'll take your breakfast burrito and insert a pancake. A buttered syrup pancake. They will slip into the middle of the burrito. And we cannot overemphasize how important consent

is to this process. Yes, yeah, right. Everybody has to be on board for putting this pancake in the burrito. But if that's what we're looking for, that's what we're looking for. You ask the burrito, does this feel good? Do you like this?

Yes. And if it says yes, in it goes. So I'm like, I got try this, I gotta try this. So I went to the lucky boy this morning, and I was like, I'll take the breakfast burrito and add a pancake. Woman had no idea what I was talking about. She just looked at me like, you want pancakes?

And I'm like, no, but in the burrito, do you do, and she just had no idea. So I don't, you know, I don't know, you know, if you have to go during a certain shift, there are two locations, maybe they only do it at the other location. It could be that this is just a totally, total fake news and that this guy's inserting his own pancakes. Like he went, he shot himself ordering it, but in a false reverse shot. Like the woman wasn't standing

on the other side of the counter. He had the camera facing himself, his phone facing himself. Then he ordered a regular breakfast burrito. Then he got it, shot some shots of himself being excited to eat it, sat down at the little round table, little round fiberglass table, then took it apart carefully,

inserted a pancake he'd brought from home, rewrapped it, and then sliced it in half. That's what we're accusing this influencer of having done. There's a lot, you know, there's a lot of, there's just a lot of deep fakes out there, you know? I watched a video of Barack Obama reviewing Pokemon that was apparently not him, so. Yeah, well, okay, I want, I want...

Yeah. Speaking of lucky boys, we are the luckiest boys of all. A couple of lucky boys. Because we have one of our favorite Jordan, Jesse, Go! guests of all time. Uh, she is, of course, the host of the podcast, Handsome, and has a brand-new stand-up comedy special

called Hello Again. Our friend and yours, Tignitaro. the host of the podcast, Handsome, and has a brand new standup comedy special called Hello Again, our friend and yours, Tignitaro. Hi, Tigg, how are you, friend? I am doing very well. It's been a beat since I've seen you. And I'm very flattered that you say I'm one of your favorite guests because your show goes down in my history books

as the first podcast I think I ever did, Your show goes down in my history books as the first podcast I think I ever did. And I didn't know what was happening. And I think I've talked about this when I came back again because I was so confused. A very controversial episode, your first episode, very controversial episode on at the time, our message board, we had a message board at the time. And it spilled over to, I didn't have a message board, but the messages got to me.

Yeah. People were like, what the hell? You were so funny on the episode, and everyone was replying, it seems like Tig is confused and doesn't want to be there. I wanted to be there. I truly thought, but I didn't know really what a podcast was. And I thought it was just an interview. I'd only done interviews where people just straightforward, directly interviewed me.

And then it was, you know, a podcast where you chat and sometimes about a topic. And I'll never forget that. I was like, oh my God. Cause I was sitting there thinking, when are they gonna interview me? I don't understand what's happening. Never. Yeah.

We would never do that. That was the thing that confused me the whole time. I was like, when are we getting into the interview? They are not getting there ever. So embarrassing. It's a cringe moment for my career. And I think it's possible, like, at the time, we were probably, like, more obnoxious and alienating than we are now.

Like, we were probably doing this 10 out of 10 without a ton of regard for, regard for getting the guest on board. So I think we, you know, some of this goes on to us. No, full responsibility. I take full responsibility. Well, you owe us one, Tig. Yeah, I do. I owe you.

I owe you. Tig, I wanna finish my burrito story, which has a real non-conclusion. I'm just gonna set everybody up for that. Not a lot of payoff here. Is there a thing you keep getting served on social media? Is there something that the algorithm really wants you to see? Does it get you in any particular way?

Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I'm very torn my feelings about this because it's one of those things that is so cute but also so sad, but it's so cute, but it's so sad, but it's so cute and it's dogs in wheelchairs. Oh yeah. It's like a baby in glasses, you know?

It's just, and I saw a little dog in a wheelchair and I just could not deal with how cute this dog was. And I sent it to everybody I knew. And then I now not only get dogs in wheelchairs, but dog walkers that walk only dogs in wheelchairs. Specialists. It's just like, oh my gosh, just dogs in wheelchairs headed my way. And that's again, I'm like, I love it.

But I'm sad that I hope they're not suffering. I hope that I hope everyone's okay. I think they're doing great. I seen these dogs in wheelchairs. There was one in my neighborhood. This dog was loving it. Rolling around all over everywhere. Right, but I guess I'm just thinking like,

oh, what was the injury? And then I do a deep dive of like, animals can't talk to us. Maybe, what if the wheelchair's a little uncomfortable? Tig, can I ask you a, I'm sorry to interrupt. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Did you have to do a deep dive to find out

that animals can't talk to us? Who is that? Well, listen, my cats talk to me. All three of my cats talk to me. Got it. So yeah, I had to see about the other animals out there in the world. I just did a...

So that's where I mean like this... I just fell into a wiki hole and I found out that dogs don't have feet, they have paws. But I just did I mean I just fell into a wiki hole and I found out that Dogs don't have feet they have paws. Oh, that's right. Yeah dogs do have paws so do cats But yeah, I do love the the little dogs and wheelchairs and then my wife sent me a video the other day that she said, Oh, look at the algorithm I just fell into. And it's it's giraffes being transported in trailers. So you just see that is specific. Oh, it's specific.

And I just we can't get enough of like a trailer with a big neck going by and rolling down the road. Man, that's my sweet spot. Any animal on wheels, I guess, we'll take it at our house. Is it like when they brought the space shuttle Discovery to the Science Museum in Los Angeles and they have to like trim all the trees on the side of the road and make a special map

with no overpasses and everyone lines the streets and applauds. Yes, yes, yes, indeed. I mean, isn't that what you would do if a giraffe was coming down the road in a carriage? Hell yeah, I'd camp out. I'd get a folding chair and wait for it like it was the road parade.

Yeah, like it was Wheel of Fortune.. Like it was the Wheel of Fortune. And that's really beautiful that you're a dog in a wheelchair person and your wife is a giraffe in a trailer person and you found each other. That's really beautiful and you make it work. Yeah, we make it work. That is really gorgeous. My Instagram thing, just because I have all this menswear stuff on there, it's just always a guy holding a rocks glass

and a cigar. This is the worst thing in the world. I hate it so much. Just like when you look at one picture of a guy in a necktie, all of a sudden, all it wants to serve you is cigar aficionado magazine. It's a direct line from that like a guy touring his private jet And I bet you probably just get a little overflow Bitcoin probably right?

All right, there's a little Bitcoin here and there. Yeah here and there what I'm trying to I'm like working really hard to curate mine and find the right hashtags to follow so that I Don't even want to see people I love in my Instagram feed like to be clear like I don't even want to see people I love in my Instagram feed. To be clear, I don't want to see my siblings or my in-laws that I love. You don't want to be overcome with emotion when you're just waiting at the Jiffy Lube.

I'm definitely not gonna end up in this cigar aficionado world with my giraffe and... Yeah, you have no risk. Yeah, I have no risk of ending up there. a cigar aficionado world with my giraffe and. Yeah, you have no risk. Yeah, I have no risk of ending up there. It's just, no. I demand hashtag scruffy dog. I demand hashtag Cappy Barra in a swimming pool.

That's a fun one. This is what I need to see. And I need the, if anybody works at Facebook, Instagram and can pull some levers on the equations for me so that I never see another dude holding a rocks class again and I just get, look, at the end of the day, if there's a doggy daycare with a pool, I'm willing to look at that too.

Mm, yeah, that's nice. That's good that you're flexible. Indoor cabibara is what I'm, I wanna see a cabibara that lives indoors and then him and his little pig friend come out and then they jump in the swimming pool. What I'd give to have a little pig friend. They're very loyal. Yeah.

That's why they're known as nature's dogs. This happened during the run of Jordan Jesse Goh, and so was described a decade ago on the program, but my wife's cousin has a pet pig that he and his wife love more than anything. He's been around a long time. Wonderful pig. Don't put it in a wheelchair or else

you're not gonna get rid of me. Yeah, it'd be too cute. They visited Los Angeles Tig, and they asked if their pig could stay in our backyard. We said yes, of course, I'm not an idiot. And the pig was really upset that Luke and Rohini weren't there, its parents, and made human screams.

And also just bit the shit out of my hand. Oh my God. Drew blood. Did you have to get stitches or? No stitches, no, it was no stitches. Did you end up in a wheelchair? Yeah, that's pretty cute. I use a dog wheelchair just for my hand.

Because my legs work fine. So I just have the dog wheelchair for my hand. I got wet my legs work fine, so I just have the dog wheelchair for my hand. I got what in sports, what they call contusions. I had my whole hand was like black and blue. Oh, geez. But I still love that fucking pig. Yeah. I just know that I can't have one now.

My cat, who is a little, well, I have three cats and we're talking about Linus right now. My cat who is a little, well I have three cats and we're talking about Linus right now. He's very, he's an anxious kitty and he'll come over and visit but sometimes I do force a snuggle and so I picked him up knowing full well he's on edge. And I'm walking him over to the couch to have a forced snuggle time that he usually settles into after a beat. But while I'm walking past our little bar area in the kitchen, I pushed the bar chair in and it made a noise that Linus did not like. And he used my stomach as a jumping off point with his back paws.

And I am now scarred for life. I immediately pulled my shirt out from my body because I knew I was dripping in blood. And I have had cats my whole life. I've had them scratch me when they get scared. This was a whole other level of animal cut. Wow. Yeah. Did he get air?

Did he like? Oh, oh yeah. He launched and yes, I can show you. Oh my gosh, we're seeing on, wow! Holy cow! Oh my gosh, that's genuinely impressive. I would call it stigmata-like. Yeah, yeah.

Where Christ was stuck with the spear. But it is that feeling of like, I was in so much pain, but I'm not mad at my cat. No, you can't be. They're angels. They're angels. They don't know what they do. Yeah, no, I felt for him because he was scared.

And now I'm like, whatever, I'm scarred by it with the little cat. Now you have a remembrance of your special guy. Yes, yes, I do. He said, let you have these scars in remembrance of me. And remember me who is always in your face and always around the house. And I never forget him.

I'm nervous about this now because, you know, Jordan, Jesse, go listeners know I recently acquired a new dog named Junior. And I had only ever had 15 pound dogs before, you know, sort of small, not tiny toy dogs, but small dogs. And Junior is like a full kind of, you know, he's golden retriever or something like that.

Like he's a full-size dog, weighs 45 pounds or so. But I'm not prepared to give up lifting and carrying around my dog. So I just get an arm around his chest and just lift him up upside down with his, with his big legs sticking up in the air and licks my face. And then after a while he gets sick of it and starts gnawing on my hands. But it's like, that's all I want in the world is to pick up this stupid dog and hold him upside down so he bites my nose.

Well, you know, dreams come true. When I, whenever I get a little, a little kitty ouchy, like the one you mentioned, Tic, when you're holding them, something spooks them and they go to run, I always, I blame myself. I'm like, well, I should have been cutting her nails. The reason that I, cause I wasn't cutting her nails often enough.

And I shouldn't have been forcing a snuggle. Well, let's see, how can you resist though? He's so cute. I bet he's really cute. You can't listen, not your fault. Listen, not your fault that you got to snuggle the cat and not your fault that we were weird assholes who didn't explain the podcast to you the first time you came on.

I'm a little worried, Jordan. I don't know a lot about... I've never had cats. I'm a little worried about cat scratch fever, which is- That's real. That's where you become an elderly rock star that tours on behalf of Donald Trump, right? Is that correct? That's right. Yeah. Yeah.

It almost happened, but I washed my cuts immediately. Soap and hot water. It was definitely all red, like the size of my hand, just all over and very sore for a long time, but did not get cat scratch fever and still continuing to vote the way I always have. You two probably do have toxoplasmosis though right? That's like the disease vector that's carried in cat feces that makes rats docile and makes it so they get eaten. I don't know what you're talking about. Really?

No. Jordan, you've heard of this, right? You've heard of toxoplasmosis. Yeah, I guess I haven't boned up on it, but I think it's something in cat poop that gets in the air and makes you love your cat all the more, as if that was possible.

Yeah, it controls your mind, I think. As if I needed a parasite to love that little guy. I want to finish this burrito thing real quick, because people will go insane if I don't. Lady hasn't heard of the pancake insertion, so I just order the burrito and pancakes, take it all home, prepare the pancakes, butter and syrup, chop them up, bisect the burrito, and just shove the bits in there. Oh, you chop them? I... In the guy's video, it was folded and inserted,

but I thought this was an easier way to go. Okay, yeah. I 100% imagined a flat tortilla, flop a pancake on top of there, flop the toppings on top of that, roll it up. I think that was the way it was done in the video. I did it. Lot of flopping.

Lot of flopping, yeah. I like food that's been flopped. Yeah, you're no fool. That's why you end up with flop sweat. Yeah. They should call him, uh... Flop Jacks? Yeah, yeah.

I was gonna say that. I was looking, I was looking. We got there, we all got there. Yeah. And we landed in flop Jacks. And we're, oh no, the plate crashed! Oh, everyone died. Yeah.

Anyway. Oh, we have to eat each other. Yeah. Anyways, I ate this and I'm glad I did it. I feel like absolute shit. Don't do this. Anyway, end of the story. Do you prefer a breakfast burrito that's more breakfast-y

or more burrito-y? Because I know that one time I went to the Lucky Boy to eat a breakfast burrito. And I was surprised at how breakfast-y it was relative to its burrito-y-ness. Like to me, the breakfast burrito I would most like to eat involves beans, scrambled eggs, and chorizo. And their breakfast burrito is more of like bacon eggs and hash browns situation.

I love beans in there too, I think beans in there are great. If you go to King's in Pasadena, you can get beans in the burrito. I think that one's a little better than Lucky Boy. But yeah, I typically like a little more like beans, cheese, hash browns. Those are the things I'm there for. What about you, Natarro? What do you want in a breakfast burrito?

Well, I am a vegan person. That's been going on for seven years, so... There's no eggs in mine. I guess I probably used to have those kind of... There was a place when I lived in Austin that had just unbelievable breakfast burritos, but I have no idea what was in there. It's been decades since I lived there. But I think I'm a little more burrito-y, non-breakfast-y. I just think burritos are,

they're just so stellar. It's like whether it's hot or cold and half eaten in the fridge or whatever the hell's in there. It's just like this is God's work. I bet that is something where like your vegan-ness does not detract from your enjoyment of it. Like I bet the vegan, you can get the vegan version of the burrito in such a way to where you don't miss. Sir, sir, sir, sir. Oh my gosh, have I stepped in something? Have I stepped in it? Sir, there is nothing that I have eaten vegan

where I'm like, well, this'll do. Wow. There are such incredible options everywhere. And if anyone cares to push back on this I say get the app for your phone called Happy Cow and you can push vegan options and it will tell you any town or city in the world where the nearest and best vegan food is and it's everywhere and it's it's really it's, it's really, it's kind of taken over my, the reason that I enjoy touring. It's like, it's, it's like beyond doing standup.

I can't wait to go hit all of these incredible places. Cause even if they don't have a vegan restaurant, they'll have a vegetarian option that you can press. If they're like no vegan options and 50 miles, you hit vegetarian. And then there's those options. If there's not that the other option is veg options. So you know what restaurants can prepare vegan options for you. So the former producer of Bulls Eye, Dan was a touring musician for many years and in a band called Modest Mouse.

And he is a vegan. And I remember the first time that I met him, like for, it was either his first day at work or a job interview type conversation. We went to a Mongolian restaurant down the street and I did not know he was vegan. And he ended up, I can't remember what he had in front of him, but he was functionally, the poor man was watching me eat my lunch.

Cabbage and napkins, right? Exactly. And I was like really, I was really torn up about it. I'm like, oh gosh, you know, we can find another place to eat. Like, you know, we we do whatever. And he's like, well, I'm a touring musician. I've eaten a lot of, I've had a lot of days where I ate three sets of French fries, one for each meal. Oh my gosh, yeah. French fries are definitely a go-to when you're like at a bar or something

and you need a snack, popcorn, French fries, all that kind of stuff. Tig, you've given me a wonderful idea. I'm gonna go pop some popcorn, make, french fries, all that kind of stuff. TIG, you've given me a wonderful idea. I'm gonna go pop some popcorn, make some french fries, eat something else that's gonna make me sick, which is popcorn and french fries, and then we're gonna come back for some more. Great.

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From whoever's standing there. Even if they don't sell drugs, I bet you they have drugs. As long as they're, Hey, yeah, I'll buy them as long as you're holding baby. Matt, you're clean and sober. You can't be going up to soccer dads and buying prescription drugs right out of their backpacks. I'm not watching Jordan do it. Okay. Thank you. It's part of his duty as producer.

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I just pitched on a public radio station here in Los Angeles that Bulls Eyes on and they do this a few times a year. We're still we're holding the line. We only ask for you to join one time a year and this is the way I usually like to put it. Jordan you've got your famous bartender analogy you tip a bartender a buck a drink maybe tip your podcasters a buck a podcast. It's how I like to frame it. Look, if you listen to this show, seven, eight hours a week you're spending with us. If you listen to a couple of Max Fun shows, maybe you also listen to Free With Ads, you

listen to Flophouse, you listen to Black People Love Paramore. You listen to another Max Fun show. Then you're talking, you're getting up into the 20 hours a week range. What is that time worth to you? To have that time filled with something that is joyful and comforting and laughing and whatever. And five bucks, I think you can probably make room for it. Yeah, totally. I think that if you were giving that money to a streaming

service run by a giant billionaire company, that wouldn't go that far. That money doesn't really make a difference to the bottom line of one of those giant companies. But Max Fun, as a worker-owned co-op, boy, that five bucks a month really, really goes a long way. It's a really impactful way you can use your money. It makes a ton of difference to us, and it makes sure the show can keep going.

So we really appreciate it. It's a pretty small number of members that keep the poll network going, relative to the people who listen. So yeah, it's an elite few, and they're the reason that the poll network going, relative to the people who listen. So yeah, it's an elite few, and they're the reason that the show keeps going. So we thank them a lot. It's really cool. And yeah, I love working for something

that has this business model. It really feels good. Yeah, and speaking on behalf of myself, and all the producers, and the technical staff, and the business staff, and all the people behind the scenes who don't necessarily Talk so much. We just you know, we work We feed our families. I think it would be wonderful if you guys joined because that's how we stay employed and

it's how we you know are able to have a life that is filled with we are able to have a life that is filled with podcasting joys and listening to our favorite podcasters saying their things and then editing it into a small bite-sized thing so that they don't say anything that they get in trouble for. Yes. Matt, we love to say our things, and we love that you edit out the possibly problematic things that we say.

Without us, these guys would have been canceled long ago. Thank you, Matt. We love that you edit out the possibly problematic things that we say. Without us, these guys would have been canceled long ago. Thank you, Matt. So really, that's not necessarily the... We're pretty good guys. Listen, they're great. They're great. But sometimes it just takes a little bit of finessing, and in order to get that finessing

done, you need someone like me. Matt, thank you so much for not allowing everyone to realize the feelings I have about the M.C.U., okay? That's right. So join, please. MaximumFun.org slash join. I'll love you if you do. It's Jordan Jesse Goh. I'm Jesse Thorn, America's Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris Boy, Detective. Tig the Fonz Notaro.

Hey, thanks for being here. Hey, hey, hey. Happy Days is a weird television show. Yeah, it sure is. Thanks for being here. Hey! Hey! Happy Days is a weird television show. Yeah, it sure is. Some, like, the Fonz has magic powers. Yep. But he's a secondary character on the show at best, even though he's by far the most compelling.

Yeah, I think he was an early Urkel in that he came on for an episode, people wrote in letters, the station was flooded with handwritten letters, and they brought him back, and eventually he started jumping over sharks. Yeah. Jordan, I have something I need to address on the program... Oh, sure, please.

...before we get to momentous occasions here. Yeah, that'd be great. We've talked a lot on this show about baseball pants. Yep. Been a common subject on this. Ever since years ago, someone suggested sleeping about baseball pants. Yep. Been a common subject on this ever since years ago someone suggested sleeping in baseball pants, which seemed to us, or at least to me, too scratchy. There has been some baseball pants news that I feel bears addressing.

So as the two of you may or may not know, there is this one company that has been buying all of the like licensed apparel licenses for all the major sports. They also buy. I don't know that. Yeah. So there's this one company called fanatics. They bought the licenses to everything. They bought the manufacturing facilities for everything. They bought top baseball cards. They've just been buying, consolidating everything into this one weird company that makes all sports stuff.

So if you want a St. Louis Cardinals t-shirt, you gotta buy it from them now. They also have the license. Noted, noted. Yeah, thank you, thank you, Dick. They also have the license to make the baseball uniforms. They don't design the baseball uniforms, Nike does, but they make the baseball uniforms.

And baseball uniforms have been about the same for decades. Since the 80s, basically, they've been the same. They're this sort of heavy double-knit polyester, you know, with a big, you know, applicade, letters and stuff, letters and numbers and everything. And, you know, they put them together like when a guy gets traded, the clubhouse guy puts together the pieces in the clubhouse, like they get manufactured right there. But this year, Nike changed the design of the baseball uniforms because they made it more performance-oriented, as they say. And they look really rinky-dinky on television.

Big complaints, lots of complaints about how they basically look like if you went on alibaba.com or whatever and ordered a fake Mike Trout jersey from China. That's what it looks like major league baseball players are wearing now. And I think that's one thing, but the pants situation is another. Baseball players wear white pants. And at the beginning of spring training,

there's a picture day. I think a lot of baseball players wear white pants. And at the beginning of spring training, there's a picture day. I think a lot of baseball players, especially infielders, they wear athletic cups and supporters when they're playing baseball. But they don't wear those for picture day. And so there has been a major situation of... major situation of visible testicles with baseball players on picture day. Finally a reason to tune in, huh?

I mean. It's a real like dangerous situation for baseball players. And it's something that I'm concerned about as a baseball... Since we are basically the Baseball Pants podcast of record, I thought it was something important to address on this program. I don't know. You thought when you have a lesbian guest

that we should talk about testicles in baseball pants? Yes, that's why I thought. I thought since we have a lesbian guest on, we should talk about testicles in baseball pants. How dare you? You have a... I took an hour out of my day for this show. And I have to talk about testicles in baseball pants?

You have to. Have a take, Teg. Have a take. I told you, my sweet spot is a dog in a wheelchair. If anybody wants to look at the testicles in the baseball pants, I put them in the chat. It's a real issue and concern for professional baseball players. I don't see this as a sports issue. I see this as a workplace safety issue, personally. Well, I don't know what testicles look like.

So I don't even know. So as I scroll down, though, I saw mascot watch. I saw a cat in a chair. I don't see any testicles. Yeah, that's pretty close to a dog in a wheelchair. That's a little bit better. better but yeah what is your question? No I just it's just something since we since it's important for us to cover all aspects of baseball pants I wanted to address it. Yeah. I want to sort of air it out so to

speak. The page isn't loading for me but I imagine the testicles look funny. And again I don't know what testicles look like. So my kids play baseball. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I definitely would not want their, you know, private parts. Sure. We wouldn't want that.

In clear plain view. Were you a sporty kid, Tig? Because I'm gay. No, I just was trying to. Listen, I'm trying to bring in the guests somehow. I am athletic. I'm gay. No, I just what you're trying to listen. I'm trying to bring in the guests somehow I am I am athletic. I am athletic But I have had some you know body Problems that have made me a little

rickety plus I'll be 53 later this month and You know, my wife is athletic and she's 15 years younger than me. So she's a little more active in the, you know, whatever game with our kids. You know. Do your kids play at a level of youth sports

where some of the kids and parents are weird about it? Yeah. I mean, but even when we were taking them to T ball, you know, you'd see dads yelling at their kids just like, run, what are you doing? You know, and the kid is, they have no clue what's going on. And it is, it is funny because our sons are both very athletic and they they play very seriously and they have each other to pitch and catch and and So it's funny to be the lesbian couple that shows up with the best players on the team

And that goes for like baseball and basketball and you see these like really Big tough dads just screaming at their little sons and we're over there all chill and our kids are like hitting home runs. And it's really amusing. You should just yell, we love you no matter what. Do your best.

Right. We essentially are. I think the real, there's like a structural problem in youth baseball particularly, which is that four and five year olds, the age four, five, six, the ages that usually play tee ball, those children are not old enough

to understand the weird rules of baseball. Baseball doesn't make sense. You know what I mean? Like we shouldn't be expecting five year olds to understand the arcana of this, you know what I mean? Like, we shouldn't be expecting five-year-olds to understand the arcana of this, you know, bizarro 150-year-old extension of, like, whatever, English people hitting a sheep's bladder with a stick or whatever.

Mm-hmm. Well, wait till you meet my son, Finn. He knows the history of the game, history of the different teams. He knows the batting orders. He can mimic everybody's swing. He knows stats. And this has been going on since he was four. It's so out of control.

And all around our kitchen, he's taped up paper, like on our cabinets, walls, everywhere, and he updates all sports stats, whether it's professional, college, men's, and women's, and it's all over our kitchen. It is unbelievable. I, this is a child after my own heart. I spent most of my childhood just like sitting in, there was a used bookstore between the subway station,

the BART station and my house. And I would take the BART home from school, it was when I was like eight, nine, something like that. And I would just stop into the used bookstore. The owner of the used bookstore would save new baseball books that came in for me. And I would just sit in the sports section in the back corner and read new baseball books that came in for me. And I would just sit in the sports section in the back corner and read the baseball books

before I went home. That is, yes, that's incredible. That's, Finn gets up five in the morning, comes, checks our phone to get updated stats from whatever happened after he went to bed. But they play baseball, basketball, soccer, swim team, every sport they're in. They play street hockey in our driveway.

Oh, street hockey's still a thing. That's nice. They love it. Are we talking about in sneakers or rollerblades? Just, yeah, just in their shoes. But we've, last winter we were in Colorado and they started ice skating because they want to potentially get to the point where they're on skates. Oh, I thought you were going to say they want to potentially get to the point where they're

on the Olympic ice dancing team Yeah, well, you know what? I wouldn't put it past them would not put it past those ice dancing. Dads are fucking crazy In the rubble that's the one we would probably that's where we would probably look the craziest is the lesbian moms yelling at our Kids Sau-cow at our ice skates. Ice dancer kids. Yeah, yeah. Sau cow, fucking sau cow. More beautiful. You're not getting dinner tonight. Or maybe more beautiful when you twirl.

Yeah. In the golden age of rollerblades, which would be, what would that be like? 91, 92, 93 and there maybe? Sounds about right. I had rollerblades and so did my friend, Pete Fraunfelder. Hey Pete. Yeah, what's up Pete Fraunfelder?

Me and Pete, like the amount of complication involved in urban children playing street hockey in San Francisco, a sport where no one has any interest in hockey at all. Like it involved like phone call coordinating, getting sticks, getting the right ball, like loading up the roller blades, finding an empty tennis court, which is like the only thing that's smooth enough

to really go at it on roller blades. Like the level of complication for the, I'm gonna say six to seven times total when we actually successfully skated around with a ball and hockey sticks. But it's maybe my fondest childhood sports memory. It's so fun. Beautiful.

Hey, when you finally get it together to play roller hockey in the early 90s, that's a momentous occasion. And you know what else is a momentous occasion? The thing that someone called us with that Laura's going to play. Who's filling in for Matt? Thanks, Laura. Hey, Jordan, Jesse, and delightful guests. My name is Richard.

I was at the gym and finished up my workout. So I went into the locker room to get changed up. And you walk into the locker room and there's always like a bunch of nude men taking care of business like you're supposed to at the locker room. So I'm scanning the room trying to find where my locker is and get there and I see a completely buck naked man using the hairdryer he is aiming the hairdryer into his butt crack he then grabs his left bun and lifts and parts it slightly in order to get more drying action up in that butt crack. And I don't know what to do with my life now. Go punch a blimp, Jose Cancnaco,

part of the rock, wet as a river. Love you guys, bye. Love you too. I was certain this, when I heard about the hairdryer, I was certain this was headed in a testicular direction. I got concerned, because obviously our brilliant guest doesn't even know what testicles look like, so we had a hard time picturing it,

or even understanding what we were talking about. But everyone has a but. Everyone has a but. And this is a really, I mean, we've addressed on the program, Jordan, that your work over there at the Verdugo Aquatic Center has led you to be a lot more comfortable with locker room nudity than I am, a person who's deeply

uncomfortable with locker room nudity. But this is a level of locker room nudity heretofore unheard of by me. I'm gonna have a take, if that's okay with everybody. Great. Well, I... Yeah, I want you to have a take, but I also want to just chime in very quickly and say how much I don't appreciate

not only having to look at testicles and baseball pants, but have to be walked through the visual of a naked man, hair drying his buttocks. Tick, first of all, all bodies are beautiful. Okay, first of all, first of all. That's fine, but I just, I can't, I don't know what testicles look like, so. Right, I understand.

It's hard to find the beauty if I can't find the things. Thank you, yes. Is location a concern in the Celtic? Where are they? On the chest? On the foot? Lift your arm.

Lift your arm, let's see those balls. I'm no fool. The little armpit balls. So the topic of locker room nudity came up a few episodes ago, and of course you have people in the comments saying like, yeah, locker room nudity's okay, but I can't stand these old guys who dry their balls with the hairdryer, right?

Like it's, you know, it's a bit cliche at this point, right? I mean... Right, it's a common complaint. So guys are actually doing that, and... They are, and you know what? More power to you, fellas. That's what I say. As long as you're not putting the balls or the butt on

or somehow in the dryer, it's just drying skin, right? And the butt is skin, just like the hands are skin, and so is the butt, and that's what the dryer is for. And you know what, if you wanna dry your bits before you put pants on to prevent itching or fungal build- Yes, Dick. Pardon me, I would or fungal build- Yes, Tig. I would like to correct you.

The dryer is not to dry skin. It's to dry hair. Yeah, it's not a skin dryer. Yeah, it's a hair dryer. Are you drying your body with a hair dryer? Do you have towels at your house, Jordan? But what is hair but the skin of the head, Tig? That's true.

Jesse. That's a good point, Jordan. That's a good point, Jordan. What is hair but the skin of the head, Tig? That's true. That's a good point, Jordan. That's a good point, Jordan. What is hair? Tig, back to you. What is hair? This has turned into the grossest show I've ever been on in my life. What is what?

Tig, I think Jordan makes a really good point when he says that skin is the hair of the head. Wait, hair is the skin of the head? Which one was it, Jordan? I forget. See, I can't do it, I can't crunch numbers. I don't know what, I can't follow that math, but. You're gonna have to put some pieces of paper up

in the kitchen, too, and see if you can. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna have to talk to Finn about this. Get the pieces together. Get the kid to moneyball this for us. Jordan, I have a serious question, because this is like me figuring out the dynamics of this situation. Is this like a wall-mounted thing?

I'm envisioning a wall-mounted apparatus, yes. How do you get the wall-mounted unit even? Because as soon as you said, as long as you're not putting it on or in, I'm like, well, this is this guy's own thing. But if it's a communal unit that's at hand-drying height, But if it's a communal unit that's at hand drying height, how do you even access it for midsection related needs?

You know, just get in there. Turn on, go on your back if you need to, lay down a towel, get flexible. Maybe the community center has a yoga class and those folks, you know, they can get all. Or maybe they have a towel. Maybe they have, they can get all maybe they have a towel Maybe they have yes They have a towel and a towel you don't have to get in some weird position and send everyone running home vomiting

You know, yeah, that's a good point. Should we finish up the show after I've gotten done throwing up We'll be back in just a second on Jordan. Jesse go after I've gotten done throwing up? We'll be back in just a second on Jordan Jesse Goh. -♪ La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la. It's Jordan Jesse Goh. I'm Jesse Thorn, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, Boy Detective.

Matt Lee, producer of Jordan Jesse Goh. Matt, you're new here at Jordan Jesse Goh, and it might not be immediately apparent to Jordan Jesse Goh listeners, because we've been doing this show so long that what an important job the producer of Jordan Jesse Goh or all these podcasts is. Tell me a little bit about what roles you play on Jordan Jesse Goh besides chiming in hilariously and delightfully on the air as our audience hears. Yeah, I mean, listen, a producer at Max Fun wears multiple hats. This is not a giant corporation in

which there are a bullpen of producers, editors, line editors, researchers, all that. We take on a lot. So I am someone who I schedule the podcast, I schedule the guests, I book the guests, I make sure everyone gets to the studio on time. I am the engineer, so I engineer the sound, I make sure that everyone's microphone levels are good, and then I, you know, I record it, I press the big record button, I take time code,

I make sure that, you know, if somebody says something like something like I don't know off the top of my head the MCU and I go like hey the audience isn't gonna like that you know I'm just saying the woke agenda has made superhero movies worse I edit out all of the right wing talking points and then you know once the recording is done yeah I thank the guest then I get into the editing I edit that baby down I put a bunch of filters on it I make everyone's voice sound nice and boomy you know that nice that nice sound when you listen to Jesse's voice and you're just like oh man he could read a menu and it would make yeah good not That's not how he sounds naturally. No, no. Naturally he sounds like droopy dog.

Yeah, he's just like, hey, it's me, yes, I'm- Hey, guys! Yeah, it's really grating. But when you put the- I grew up in San Francisco. Oh, geez. Burritos. But yeah, so I compress it, I export it to an MP3, and then I put it on the feed for

all of you out there to listen to every week, right on time. I think I've been working here for a year now, and you tell me, have I at any point- You've been dead on time. Have I ever missed, have you ever been like, oh, the episode's a little late today? Never. No, no, the episode's a little late today? Never. No, no, no. Thank you, yeah. We love that Matt is getting the show out on time

for you every week. And also, I wanna say a little something about Matt's guestbooking prowess. So when we started doing this show, the guests were people we would just text, people we had met from around. Now, those people have now gotten famous. And we have not.

So, sometimes when you hear a beloved regular on the show, it's somebody who you have to go through their publicist and you have to work around their schedule. So like, you know, folks who, you know, would just kind of stop by Jesse's apartment in the beginning, now, you know, you have to book them on their press tour and we wanna keep having

those favorite guests on the show. So Matt hustling and working with publicists is really awesome and it makes sure our guests keep being awesome. Fritz Coleman, okay, one of the greatest episodes we've ever done, you have to go through the Fritz Coleman former weatherman publicity machine if you wanna get an hour with the F-Man. And Matt busted his ass to get us Fritz Coleman.

And it was one of the most fun episodes we've ever had. I think Tig Notaro is a perfect example of this, Matt. Tig is definitely our pal. She's been coming on Jordan Jessi Go for many, many, many years. She's also now like one of the most popular stand-up comedians in the world, a film director, a television star, sometimes film star, and her life is very busy. So like, take, let's use Tig as an example, right?

Sometimes a guest is a friend of ours who we just send an email to and say, hey, we record on Sunday evenings. Can you stop by the office? And they say, yes. TIG is a little bit more of a complicated situation. Yeah, that's right. Because TIG is an actual real life famous person.

And not to say that all of the wonderful guests that we have here at JJ Go aren't all so famous in their own right, but a huge, huge star. And in order to book those guests, you should see the amount of emails that get sent and sent over not just to TIGs people, but also outside publicists and people who aren't in charge of the promotions teams and stuff like that. And so, yeah, someone's got to be there in the back end telling all these people, don't worry, it is not a bad podcast, it is a good podcast. Someone has to explain this will help. And that's even when Tig is herself saying, these are my friends, I want to do this.

Yes. Yes. Yes, we appreciate the fact that all of these people would go out of their way and spend time with us to do something that, let's face it, probably hurts their career in the end. Yeah, yeah, I'm lying to the publicist, but I'm doing it for a good cause, and that causes all of you out there.

We're not lying to anyone. But we also, I mean, I think this is also a perfect example because it was obviously a lot of complicated work to find the time to record with Tig. We had a very tight window because she's doing press for her special, and she was nice enough to do it for us, and she fitted in in a window

where she was going to be doing press from her home. And that means that in addition to where she was going to be doing press from her home. And that means that in addition to finding that time slot, Matt, you have to do a lot of technical work to make sure that she's ready to record, that the publicist or whoever is there with her is ready to set the equipment up correctly so that we don't lose an episode that we recorded and make everyone mad. That's right, that's right. Someone's gotta be there to tell people how to export files.

Someone's gotta be there to tell people how to send files on the internet from one person to another. It's not fun, but it's necessary. And it's also something that brings me a lot of joy when I can thread that needle, when I can pull something together kind of out of nothing. It's what producing is. And I very much enjoy it.

And I love doing it for you guys because we all went to college together and been best friends ever since. That's right. Matt. to college together and been best friends ever since. That's right. Matt, Matt, you've also, since you've added production for free with ads, this is also your real job now with health insurance and you qualify to become a member of the cooperative. That's right.

That's kind of a big deal to be an employee of a work around company. I mean, I feel that as a work arounder myself. Yeah, I've worked for a lot of places before and I've worked on the radio. I've worked, I worked at audible. I never once has anyone been like, all right, you're now full time and you're the boss. You know, I've never once been able to go from, you know, the mail room to ownership.

And that is the cool thing about working for a worker owned co-op. One day they might vote for you to be part of the the boss team, which that'd be cool. Are you are you running? Is this a declaration of candidacy? Matt fire us. I'm going to take over the whole thing and I'm going to take all the money. You guys have both worked a lot for big media companies and still sometimes do. And there are cool parts about that. Sometimes big media companies are spending stupid speculative

money on stuff and people just- They were. They were. They did at one point. That's happened I think in the recent past. I remember that. RIP Quibi. Yes, RIP to Quibi. Yeah, no, I mean as cool as it is to work on a big TV production or something like that, like that business is getting pretty bad

as we saw in the hot labor summer of 2023. That's right. Yeah, people having to get out there on the picket lines because these companies just want to use AI to replace people and to underpay everyone and to not give you health insurance. It really, really sucks. As cool as a creative team can be on one of these projects. The people at the top are just shitty billionaires

who your thing is a entry in their spreadsheet. And if the thing doesn't do the numbers of my Bigfoot is my sister wife, then you know, your thing is out, or it's deleted from the streaming service. Or you know, they just tell everybody to pack up and go home one day. It's really, really a bummer.

And I think people love making stuff. But yeah, working working for one of these companies can be the pits in 2024. And it's really, really nice that we're making this thing for maximum fun. And I really appreciate how Max Fun treats everybody good and wants pay to be fair and wants there to be health insurance for its employees and that they value that. Like it's something that Max Fund takes pride in, not the fact that they can pinch pennies and increase profit margins. They just want to make cool stuff with cool people and to make them feel good and happy

at work. And I really, really appreciate that in a creative landscape where things are not always like that. I think it's also really meaningful as a creator that at Maximum Fun, we own and control our work. You guys have done a lot of works for hire. I'm rarely hired to do works for hire. But you guys have done a lot of works for hire, but you guys have done a lot of works for hire and you can pour your heart and soul into something that gets crossed out with a red pen never to see the light of day. Jordan you and I have been working on Jordan Jesse Goh now for something like 15 years, maybe a little

more than 15 years now. And the reason that it sticks around is because we love doing it. It's not because it's the most profitable thing in the world. It's not something that one of the big podcast companies would have kept around. And the fact that Maximum Fund Structure and the support of members backs our work is really, really wonderful. It really means the world to me that there's no fat cat that can cancel us and that our audience supports us directly with Max Fund's support as well. that our audience supports us directly with Max Fund support as well. Yeah, maximumfund.org slash join.

We love it. It's the reason we do this. And yeah, we love doing this show. I think the goal is to do this for as long as we can. We love goofing around every week. We love our guests. And we love the people that listen. It's really nice to be able to do

this show for such a cool, fun group of listeners. So yeah, thank you to everybody who's done that. And thank you to everybody who's going to do that. MaximumFun.org slash join. We love it. We love you. Okay. I hope you'll go to MaximumFun.org slash join and become a member right now.

It's Jordan, Jesse Goh. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris, Boy Detective. Tig, The Fonz, No Taro. Tig, do you have a special relationship with The Fonz or you just bring The Fonz's signature coolness? Well, sometimes people jokingly call me The Fonz. I feel like everybody's got their thing, they get some through life. And I think as a kid, I was always an adult.

I'm like, yeah, I'm cool. You know, you can't hurt me. You can't affect me. I'm cool. But then life gets going and I got hurt and I got affected. But I still drag around my Fonzie vibe. People brought you onto what you thought were interview shows, but turned out to be podcasts. I'll drag around my Fonzie vibe. People brought you on to what you thought were interview shows, but turned out to be podcasts.

Yeah, exactly. I remember that episode, that first episode many years ago, you were talking about a camping trip. And I kept thinking, huh, I guess they'll wrap up their chat about the camping trip, and then we'll get to the interview. We never did. We've been talking about that camping trip for 10 years.

And now testicles. When's this burrito thing going to end? Is this a running segment? Is this going to have a punch line or something? No, not really. Just tried it. All right, then let's bring in the testicles. Testicles.

Tig, we, where this episode is airing as part of our pledge drive, where we have our most beloved guests on, people demanded that you return. Funny that our other most beloved guest, we had the episode previous to this, was Chris Fairbanks. And it's funny that our two most beloved guests

used to be roommates. Yeah, I think for nine years. I think we were almost legally married. He was, I've been with Stephanie for 11 years now and I think Chris Fairbanks was my second longest relationship. Wherever that, there's a little magic in that house, And I think Chris Fairbanks was my second longest relationship. Wherever that, there's a little magic in that house, creating wonderful podcast guests.

Is there any Chris Fairbanks tea that you want to spill right now? What's hiding behind the sweet bumbling exterior? Oh my gosh. One of the best things about Chris is his love for Montana, which is where he's from. And I remember, hey, to bring it back to Fonzie, I purchased a motorcycle years ago for $2,500.

And he was like, oh really, you paid $2,500 for that? He was like, yeah, people in Montana just give those things to each other. He's always glorifying Montana. Yeah. Free motorcycles. Wide open spaces. Yeah. He's like, yeah, nobody would do that in Montana. Yeah. People just give that to you. Anything that comes up, he always has a story of like, how much better it is in Montana. But yeah, Chris is easily one of the funniest people walking around this planet.

I just, it's, it oughta be illegal how funny that guy is. He's a real Tignitaro in that sense. He's truly just, oh funny. Something in the water in that house, making hilarious people. Tig, we don't want to just bring you on here to make you hear about burritos and balls and stuff. You do have a new stand-up comedy special.

Yeah, like, it's like premiering as this episode comes out. It's premiering the 26th, so this is like... This comes out the 26th? This comes out the It's premiering the 26th. So this is like... This comes out the 26th? This comes out the 25th, but people will be listening to it and ready for it. By the time they're done with this episode, they're done with me talking about the baseball pants. That'll take them from the 25th to the 26th.

And then once they hit the 26th, they go on their Amazon Prime. Boom! They watch Hello Again from Tignitaro. That's right. And, uh... Where'd you tape it? I taped it in Brooklyn, New York at King's Theater.

I had, uh, directed four episodes of the HBO... I don't know, it was like a run of specials for, um, Two Dope Queens. Oh, yeah. For that old podcast. And so after working there, I was like, I think I want to come back one day and film my own special here.

And so I finally got around to doing that. And yeah, my wife directed the special. Oh cool. Yeah. So that was fun. Your son ran the numbers. Yeah. Okay. Your laugh stats. Yeah, cool. Yeah. So that was fun. Your son ran the numbers. Yeah.

Okay. Your laugh stats. Yeah, yeah. It's been five years that I've worked on this material because there was a pandemic thrown in there and then I was going to tape the special, but then the writer's strike happened and then I punted it like six months because I didn't want to... I could technically film my special during the strike, but I wanted to go on stage with like really feeling good

and positive and in solidarity. And so it's, it's, it's been a long run with this material, but it feels really good to, to get it out there. And I'm happy with the special. And again, really was fun working with Stephanie on it. Yeah, that's the part that I want to hear. Like what is the best part of making it with your wife?

What is the most challenging part of making it with your wife? Like is there a point where one or the other of you says to the other one like this is an unflattering shot or something? Well, I know I'm not very sensitive about that, you know? So if she said something, I would be appreciative that she would point that out. Um, but she loves me so deeply that I don't think that ever came up.

Um, I don't know. We met, you know, on a a movie and acting and writing together. We've created shows. We've podcasted. We co-directed a movie that will be coming out soon called MIOK with Dakota Johnson. We've done so much. We have a production company.

And we really, really genuinely love working together. And I feel like we're, we have such similar sensibilities that we just kind of elevate that similar vision and we're different enough to where it helps. But we're so similar with our, I think it works. It's not like a boring, we're both similar, so it doesn't do anything. You've got the different Instagram algorithms, so there's that. Yes, exactly.

There's the cogs versus giraffes. Yes, yeah, but everything, but both are on wheels. Both are on wheels, so yes, that's just a link there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Beautiful. It's sort of like me and my life partner Jordan and how we both love beans in our breakfast burritos. That's true.

Yes, exactly. But yeah, I mean, just like in life and marriage and parenting and working together, we have those moments where we're at a standstill of like, wait, I'm seeing it differently. And so it all kind of obviously goes back to communication and we're always working on that. And, but it's so easy to work with her.

TIG, last year I saw you at the Largo here in LA working out what I maybe imagined as some of the material that went into this special, I laughed my fucking ass off. It was such a funny show. And if any of that material is present in this special, I imagine I'll be laughing my ass off once again. You're so funny.

I think it is all of that material, because I only started working on new material in Los Angeles in the past couple of months. So I taped this in November of last year. And since then, if I'm doing a show around Los Angeles, it will likely be all new material. So yeah. I told my therapist that I admire Tig.

And then my therapist said, she seems really admirable. And I was like, yeah, I think she is very happy. Well, that's kind. I can't believe I made it into your therapy session. Whenever my wife goes to therapy, I'm always like, are you going to bitch about me? And she's like, yep, I'll be back in an hour. I should be clear, like it came up in the context

of me working through the trauma of that time you didn't know you were on a podcast. Yes, well, and I spoke with my therapist about that time I didn't know I was on a podcast or that I didn't even know what a podcast was. So. Well, good, this has been a picture of the trauma we're all working through together.

Yeah, yeah. Tig, we're always so happy we're all working through together. Yeah, yeah. Tig, we're always so happy to see you, always so grateful for your time. And Tig's new special is called Hello Again. It's on Prime Video. Don't miss it. There's really nothing funnier in the world than Tig doing stand-up comedy, so... Well, I appreciate that.

I appreciate you guys having me on. Go watch it. She's the best. Tig, I happen to know And I appreciate you guys having me on. Go watch it. She's the best. Tig, I happen to know, because I do my research, that on your podcast, Handsome, you have someone special coming up. On the 26th, the same day your special releases, Handsome is going to have a very big guest.

Yes. Massive. We can't say who it is. It's obviously it's George W. Bush. But we can't say who it is. This is a massive guess. It is not George W. Bush. But it is a massive guess.

And I will say that I think this person has maybe only done a couple of podcasts ever. Yeah. That's all I'm going to say. I love this. This is a's all I'm gonna say. I love this. This is a celebrity that I love their work. I think they're really great. Everybody knows who this person is.

Everyone knows who this is. Every person alive knows who this person is. This is a massive, massive person. So I can do all- That's a massive person. Look, we can't say who it is. We can't say who it is, but we will say- How'd you get Chris Fairbanks?

Wait, sorry, okay, sorry, I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. Jeez, Jordan. Sorry, spilled the beans. You blew it. Jordan. Fuck. Tune into Handsome on the 26th. Yeah.

You're gonna wanna hear Archduke Franz Ferdinand. It's gonna be amazing. Yeah. Check it out. Thank you, Tick. Thank you. Thanks for listening to the final Max Fund Drive episode of Jordan, Jesse Go for 2024. It was a great one.

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