Jordan, Jesse, GO! - King of the Totoros, with Allie Goertz

Episode Date: July 18, 2024

This week we welcome writer, musician, and performer Allie Goertz to talk about her new Nine Inch Nails cover album (Peeled Back), Jesse shares his experience attending Anime Expo, they discuss musical instruments with cranks, and more!For a limited time, you can get $30 off the first box of Wildgrain - PLUS free Croissants in every box - when you go to Wildgrain.com/JJGO to start your subscription. That’s Wildgrain.com/JJGO, or you can use promo code JJGO at checkout.Style that makes you feel as good as you look—get started today at Stitch Fix dot com slash stitchfix.com/JJGO. That’s stitchfix.com/JJGO.Listen to Allie’s album on Bandcamp, Spotify, or Apple Music.Jordan Morris is doing a book tour for Youth Group! See him in Sacramento at the Wild Sisters Book Company July 19, or see his panel at SD Comic Con on July 26 from 1pm-2pm.  Come see Judge John Hodgman: Road Court  live in a town near you! Jesse and John will be all over the country so don't miss your change to see them. Check the events page to find out where!

Give a little time for the child within you. Don't be afraid to be young and free. Undo the locks and throw away the keys, and take off your shoes and socks and run you. It's Jordan Jesse Goa. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy detective. Well, Jordan, I've got some big news.

Big news. Big news right here. OK, wait. Hold on. Let me sit down for this. I'm sitting down. OK. I was standing up before I usually do this show standing. Sitting sit down for this. I'm sitting down. Okay, I went-

I was standing up before I usually do this show standing. Sitting is the new smoking. This is big news, I should sit down. Can you take a second to sit down for me to share this big news? Yeah, thank you. Even though it's akin to smoking an entire pack of Marl Bros.

Yeah. Marl Bros. Yeah, Marl Bros. That's how you say that, right? I smoke Virginia Slim. I'm a quammel man. Here's the big news, Jordan. You've learned how to say cigarettes funny?

And it's made this podcast the most popular one on the air? My dad died of mouth cancer. It is sad. It is sad. Rest in peace, my dad. Jordan. Yeah. I went to the Anime Expo. Rest in peace, my dad. Jordan. Yeah.

I went to the Anime Expo and they elected me their king. Wow. So are you King Otaku? I'm the king of all animes. Oh my god. That's so amazing. A lot of people, you would assume that if I, obviously if I went to Anime Expo, I would be elected king of the Totoros.

Sure. But I was elected- After Totoro's unfortunate passing. Yeah. Squashed dead by the cat bus. Yeah. Yeah. I was elected overall king of all animes.

So that includes Totoros. Right. Luffy's. Right. Jojo Adventures. Mm-hmm. So kind of a bizarre adventure from what I've heard. Yeah, My Hero Academia.

Right. That's what I got so far. Now, Jordan, a lot of people who are listening to this right now, they might think, well, Jesse, in the past, you've reflected yourself as maybe not knowing that much about anime. A few weeks ago, you talked about the anime One Piece, and you said Luffy a bunch of times. It's pronounced Luffy.

Oh my god. I did receive some emails. My response to those people is, congratulations, you passed my test. You passed. I said Luffy a bunch of times, and I was just testing to make sure that you knew. Mr. Anime fan, I left you all the clues. My seven year old. Okay, so my seven year old Frankie, their entire right now their entire personal identity is defined by

being interested in anime. They don't popular one. Yeah, they don't necessarily know they've watched a lot of Dragon Balls. necessarily know they've watched a lot of Dragon Balls and some Genshin Impact and some of one that's called I think Genshin Impact is a game. Is that maybe it has an attached anime or vice versa. Okay. And then something that sounds like jujitsu but is not jujitsu. This is jujitsu kaisen. Thank you.

This is like the one anime thing that I like locked into really seriously and I got super into it Is it cool? It's great. I love it. Just like the most awesome fighting pretty funny jokes cool characters yeah, I don't know jujitsu kaisen is great as like a you know, I Watched the Miyazaki movies and I had a big Sailor Moon phase like, you know 10 11 12 like my Moon phase like you know 10, 11, 12 like my anime stuff is you know sprinkled periodically through my life. I'm a real porco rosso. Porco Rosso. Porco Rosso. This is a movie about a talking pig that's real cool. He's a real cool character. But I like- He smoked

cigarettes. And I'll like try the hot animes and I'll kind of like Nope out of him at a certain point your your chainsaws man's your What's what are the Giants? What are the new Giants? I'm gonna say National League All-Star Elliot Ramos. There you go. He's a rookie and he's an all-star Sure, the new giant Oh attack on Titan attack. I'll try him I'll be like this is cool and then I'll try them. I'll be like, this is cool. And then I'll kind of like, it'll just kind of drift off. Right. Jujutsu Kaisen. Ooh, it got me. Okay. I love all those crazy fuckers. Have you ever been to Anime Expo? No, I haven't.

I'm dying to hear about your trip. Do you want to introduce our guest and then we'll talk about your trip? Our guest on the program, we're going to find out where she stands on the subject of anime. Is she, for all I know, Jordan, I wasn't actually present for the election. She may have been elected its queen. She is a comic and writer as well as a singer and music performer, a favorite of ours. She has a brand new record, a cover album of Nine Inch Nails called Peeled Back.

Allie Gertz. Hi. Hi. Hi, Ali. It's nice to see you again. Thank you so much. It's great to see you. And I'm unfortunately just the court jester of anime. Oh, okay. You hold up a funhouse mirror to the king of anime and show him his foibles. Oh, wait, let's get Ali's frame of reference too. How much anime do you watch, if any? I'm looking at you guys as two big animes right now. Like I'm very hungry for steak and you guys are like dancing snakes. No, I unfortunately don't have very much knowledge of anime stuff outside of like Miyazaki films. Yeah. So don't worry. I was just elected

there, Kim. Yeah, you'll teach me everything. And it was my first time at Anime Expo. So it seems like there's a flaw in the political system. It's corrupt. Yeah. Well, it was a brokered convention. There's going to be a January 6th where people unseat Jesse. Miyazaki pulled himself out of the race. Too old. Oh, Ali, how many

what sorts of like cons have you been to? Very few. I've been to the biggest ones, like San Diego Comic-Con, New York Comic-Con. Usually it's when I'm performing in some way, or I'm showing up with Mad Magazine, or when I'm performing funny songs.

I don't know, I've really been to too many. But yeah, but you do have an act which could lead you to be invited to something. Yeah, I've been invited to a few little things, but it's usually its own little tiny pocket of those things too. So it's like the nerdy musician corner with Nerf Herder. But yeah, I really have not too much exposure. At Anime Expo, first thing we did, so my seven-year-old completely obsessed with anime, just constantly

telling you things about anime, saying the word anime constantly. And I made the mistake, I was driving past downtown Los Angeles, driving through a freeway interchange, past the Los Angeles Convention Center. I saw the sign for Anime Expo and said to my child, oh, would you ever be interested in going to Anime Expo?

Which I did not realize was a $250 sentence. Sure. Did not realize that was gonna cost me $250. But we had a long planned trip to my cabin that returned on a Saturday. There was one day left of Anime Expo. One day passes were sold out. So I just, I was in I was backed into a corner, just had to buy a full pass

for Anime Expo. Never read billboards aloud. That's the lesson. It really is. If you're driving to Vegas, the kids are going to want to see Thunder from Down Under. Next year, give her English marks. Whatever you say, Mr. Billboard.

So I agreed to go to this thing and I wasn't really sure if it would be my scene. I'm like, the only other con like this I've been to. What would lead you to believe that, Jesse? I know. Really? The only other con I've been to like this is I've been, I've been to San Diego Comic Con a few times. And I had a great time the year that we went with your podcast, Bubble, and our pals from Bubble,

and Cristela Alonso and everything. We had a great time. I had a great time hanging out with everybody. But like the actual convention floor, a little bit overwhelming for me, not super into it. Even though that has stuff that I do know about and like, right? Like, I can always go down to that drawn-in quarterly booth, and I've read a few of those comic books.

That's the best. You know what I mean? Whereas at the Anime Expo, again, outside of Totoro's, I got nothing. I saw no porco rosso's. Wow. OK. So that classic stuff is kind of out.

No, almost nothing. No kikis. Is the Anime Expo where my neighbor is getting really big booby-stickered ladies on his car? Because there's always a guy who drives around and parks near my house that has just the biggest boobies, and I have to think it's anime. I've got a couple of those in my neighborhood too. Those, I've stuck the giant tits on my scion. Do you think that the driver looks like that?

This is me. Someone is gesturing to roll down the window like the Grey Poupon ad, thinking it's gonna look just like the sticker. One with giant tits and a sword as big as her. Just doing the roll down the window gesture and then going, you? You that? You have sword that's also gun?

Sword is gun. Yeah, so I wasn't sure what this thing was going to be, right? Like the closest I'd ever gotten to it is a couple of times I have been driving to something else through downtown LA when it was going on and just marveled at the suffering that these 19 year olds were putting themselves through in July in Los Angeles in these outfits. Just these poor 19 year olds in their cosplays just sweating buckets and looking around for non-convention center food. Just looking around for anything

that's not chicken strips. Is there a Panera? Yeah. Yeah. Is there a Panera that will let me bring my giant foam sword inside? There is, okay. So first thing, first things first,

on the way into Anime Expo, there is a booth that you have to go through to get a tag on your giant foam sword that indicates it's not a real sword. There is like a weapon, it's literally a giant sign. There's like a straw dummy that you have to whack a couple times, they have to make sure.

It says weapon inspection, like fully, and I literally saw a guy try to walk through a doorway and he couldn't, like the Kool-Aid man walking through a wall, like you know how it leaves a... Like he couldn't make it through the doorway because his sword was too gigantic. So glad that's not real. That'd be very scary. Sure, yeah.

He got stuck. I'd hate to get killed by one of those. We're going there on a Sunday morning. That's where I feel differently. Oh, you'd like to be killed by one of those. We're going there on a Sunday morning. That's where I feel differently. Oh, you'd like to be killed by one of those? Yeah, I guess if you gotta go. It's Sunday morning at the anime convention, which is appropriate because-

I'd like to have my skin hadouken off. Ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss I enjoyed spending Sunday morning at the Anime Expo because you know what guys? Church. That's my church. Yes. Okay, that's my church, okay? My church has Totorones. WWTMD, what would Tuxedo Mask do? That's Sailor Moon's boyfriend. Thank you.

Melaniganoff. Okay, so before we went Jordan, I'm glad that you- I hope they're okay. Ali, it's complicated. Sailor Moon in tuxedo mask. A little unrequited. Well, it's it's hot and cold. It's hot and cold. Jordan, I'm glad you mentioned Sailor Moon. Yeah. My wife had promised to pay my seven year old one cent for every Sailor

Moon that they saw. Guess how many Sailor Moons we saw? Boy, I mean, just kind of going off what you said about maybe the more classic characters not being represented. Maybe three, three Sailor Moon's. That's exactly how many Sailor Moon's we saw. Look at this. Out of 80,000 people, I saw more Shohei Otani's

than I saw Sailor Moon's. There are no posters at the Amherst though. I respect that. No casuals. I saw five Sho Moon. There are no posters at the Amherst though, I respect that. No casuals. I saw five Shohei Otani's. But like if there was a Simpsons convention and maybe one day there will, no one's dressing as Bart Simpson, that'd be insane.

No you're right. Unless you're being like, you know what I mean? Right, but you would be the meme version that's saying eat pant. Yeah, exactly. Or you'd be like the Camp Crusty version of Bart. It would just be so bizarre. Right.

To go to the thing as the guy. You would see Bumblebee Man. You would see the guy with the giant hand. Yeah. Disco Stoos. So many Disco Stoos. Literally the first thing that we did, we wandered through the, cause I don't know, like, I had looked at the calendar, but the panels, I don't know what any of the words mean. Sure. Right? And I don't know what my seven-year-old will find tolerable, right? I know. I remember the first time that I went to Comic-Con, I saw that there was an Archer panel. Now Archer is my, obviously it's my favorite

television show now since I got that $787 residual check. But it was already by then probably my favorite TV show. Loved Archer, love Archer. Saw there was a line to get in, noped out on that one. Just not interested in waiting in line for anything in my life. My life is too precious to stand in the sun. So we wandered through the main pavilion. And at the back of the main pavilion, there's just a stage. And there's maybe seating for, I'm going to say, 200, like folding chairs.

There's about 40 people there. And there's just this woman on stage, just pouring her heart into that microphone for the benefit of, I'm going to say, 14 fans of hers, and just 20 people that needed some place to sit down, and six people who thought they were someone else, somewhere else. And she's just ripping it, right? She's singing. She's singing, yeah. She's singing songs, but it's just her,

and she doesn't even have a DJ. The person playing the tracks is just the guy that works at the convention center, you know what I mean? Just the guy whose job it is to- So he sets up for the hot tub expo too. Exactly, 100%. This woman- I'm singing at that one.

Wow. You have that whole hot, you have the Nine Inch Nails album and then the- And the hot tub cover album. I so loved the amount of like passion and energy that she brought, like, and just immensely positive vibes. Like at no point would you have guessed that it was the weirdest context in which to perform

in the history of the world. It's 9.30 in the morning on a Sunday in front of 12 people that knew who she was and 14 people who were just wondering if they served breakfast somewhere. Now, Ali, when you do the hot tub convention, are you going to open with all you need is tub or feel like bacon tub?

I was gonna do, I wanna tub you like an animal. And I'm really glad I didn't. Yeah. So, shout out to anime singing celebrity Stephanie Yanez. Stephanie? Yeah. Woo! She blends retro, kawaii, fashion, pop culture,

manga, and anime vibes. That's awesome. Finally, finally, somebody's doing it. So, Frankie, my seven year old, fashion, pop culture, manga, and anime vibes. That's awesome. Finally, somebody's doing it. So Frankie, my seven-year-old, OK, the big... Yeah, what does Frankie want to, like, what, like... Frankie loves drag. Frankie loves dragon ball. Frankie wants to relax.

Frankie wants to relax. Yeah. Frankie says relax. Go to it, yeah. I thought I could convince them, after I found out what it costs to go to Anime Expo, I thought I could convince them that a good substitute would be wandering around outside Anime Expo to see all the cosplays,

and then going to Little Tokyo and possibly buying a figurine of some kind. That sounds great. Would be a substitute for it. They were not interested. They wanted to do Dragon Ball stuff. Oh, we cosplayed. Did I mention that we cosplayed? No, tell cosplayed. Did I mention that we cosplayed?

No, tell us everything. Frankie was this like minor Dragon Ball character named Chiaotzu. Kind of a disco stew, right? Kind of a disco stew of the Dragon Ball world. Pops in and you know, for a couple of months. I do hate that I thought of Chiaota. Same, right?

And Frankie was really focused on being Chowzu. And like I'd help with putting the costume together, like getting all the right pieces and... Does Chowzu have a sword that's as big as him? No, Chowzu is, I would call like a baby clown warrior. Does that seem... Sounds fine. Does that make sense?

It's like he's like a little... He's like a little guy in a kung fu suit, you know, like the baggy pants and the little vest with the... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The vest with the toggles on it. Yeah. You know what I mean? This kind of thing.

I like it. And then as I said, a little black kung fu hat but with a red pom pom on top of it and then like Arlequino makeup. Right. It's very odd. What's going on in these things? It's great. I love that they make these choices.

They're making choices. They can't be accused of, and then I was Chiaotzu's sidekick, Tian. Tian is thankfully a bald guy with a third eye. So my wife painted- Tian, beautiful flowing hair, beautiful mane. My wife painted the third eye. So my wife painted it. Tien, beautiful flowing hair. Beautiful mane. My wife painted the third eye on my forehead.

Tien wears green pants, which I had. I'm still wearing the green pants right now. Oh, those are the pants, huh? Those pants have been to Anime Expo? I know, right? And I'm selling them. Well, you can get a picture with the pants. I'm selling them as game used in the.

I'm going to get them PSA certified first. In a red sash. I did not have a red sash, but because I'm so fucking smart, I took a red knit tie and tied it around my waist. Hey! This guy can't stop. Yeah, now does Tien wear a shirt? No.

Does Jesse wear a shirt? Yes. Yes, Jesse wears a shirt. So I just found a shirt that matched my socks. You don't already have like a muscle shirt that you could wear? You mean like slim good body? Like the kind of shirt that shows

what the muscle structure underneath your skin is? I guess like when you're on vacation and you get a shirt of like a lady, I'm not obsessed with big old movies. Like square to go. Well, your conversation seems to indicate otherwise. It's on my mind. Allie, you don't need to explain.

I'm a federal body inspector. Now, Ali, when you go to big old booby con, are you going to open with all you need is jugs or feel like making jugs? I was going to say I want to jug you like an animal. Jug you like an animal. So yeah, so we went, we went, we watched this concert. The next to the last song was with.

And this is the woman who was singing.... And this is the woman who was singing? Yeah, this is the woman who was singing. She has a duet from a video game with a famous virtual pop star. Okay. Cool. And the virtual pop star got a lot of applause and Frankie knew this virtual pop star. Was super pumped about it.

And then for this woman's grand finale, so in this weird corner of the main area was just like a couple of Japanese tourism booths, like local, like visit Cleveland style, local Japanese tourism booths that were wonderful because they were full of what I would broadly call, I don't want to say normal people, but typical people, only that had visited from Japan to the weirdest version of America ever.

And it was so sweet and cute. And this woman had recruited all of these ladies who were all wearing traditional Japanese clothing to be her backup dancers for the finale. Oh, Ali, I'll ask you a question for you. How big were the boobs? How big were the boobs?

So they did this choreographed dance. That's my impression of you by the way. I really like it. That was full middle school talent show style choreography. These ladies were, I like it. That was like full like middle school talent show style choreography. Like these ladies were like, I loved it. Like I'm going to be clear, couldn't have loved it more. But it was like basically like a simplified version

of the hustle. They were basically doing- Yeah, I was thinking Macarena or something. Yeah, it was very Macarena-ish. And Frankie, my seven-year-old, was in the aisle. They said, get up and do the dance. Now, needless to say, this is a crowd full of. They said, get up and do the dance. Now, needless to say, this is a crowd full of people who do not get up and do the dance.

And my seven year old got in the aisle and did the dance. And halfway through it, they turned to me and said, yeah, this is the best thing in my entire life. Wow. And so that's the review you want. We went and we went and shook hands with the lady afterwards and took a picture. It was very cute. And then we went around and did con stuff, like went to booths and took viral

photographs and I'm going gonna say like maybe 10 people asked to take our picture because of our cosplay. Cool, cool. That's the dream. Every single one of them was so fucking nice about it. And everyone was like being really like happy and encouraging in a non weird way to my seven year old. Like, whoa, cool Chao Tzu costume.

Chao Tzu's a legend, the goat, am I right? That's so great. Come on. Yeah, it was absolutely sweet. And I got to tell you, at Comic-Con, the vibes are very positive, generally. Sure, yeah. You know what I mean?

It's not short on positive vibes. But the level of, like the sheer positivity of the vibe inside Anime Expo cannot be overstated. Just like everyone in their happy place, fucking bunch of little sweetums representing every race and creed, you know what I mean? Just like everybody and then just some people where their butts are full on out. Just the butts are out.

Well, that's why everyone's so happy. It is great. Like, you're just about butts. Of all races and creeds. Like, it was mostly Loofies. Loofies. Primarily Loofies. You know, it's mostly like G-rated and then some people in bondage gear. Just like intermittent bondage gear, which, you know what? My seven-year-old's going to learn about bondage gear, just intermittent bondage gear, which you know what?

My seven year old is going to learn about bondage gear on the streets. Yeah, well, leather daddy and leather mommy love each other very much. Sure. Yeah. They decide to have leather babies. There were very, there were very few. But only if they're married by a Christian pastor. There were very few non, one thing that surprised me was, how on brand everything there was.

Like there was no Star Wars stuff, there was no comic book stuff, there was no, we beamed down, we're a search party that beamed down to the Renaissance Fair. Like it was only anime shit, just wall to wall, only anime shit. except for I did see a Mario and Luigi who were holding hands, which I thought was the sweetest

thing in the world. Mario and Luigi love each other very much. Honestly, like at this point in my life, I am ready to go to anime expo every year from here on out. Like family tradition, go to anime, at no point will I learn more about anime. Like I feel like- No, well. Go to anime. At no point will I learn more about anime. Like I feel like- No, don't watch anime.

I feel like a really important part of the magic for me is that all of these people are cosplaying. These cosplays are insanely complicated, right? Like just totally balls to the wall, like full on extraordinary costumes. And just like having no idea what the fuck it is, is so magical. Whereas if it was just like, oh, that's like, that's that guy from that show.

I don't think that would, I think that would detract from it. To me, the fact that it's coming out of, completely out of left field was, was particularly great. That's beautiful. Part of it was, was fucking gorgeous. Sounds great. Anime Expo, Jordan, it was fucking gorgeous. That's great. Anime Expo, Jordan. Anime Expo.

I know, I've always kind of like, when it's going on, I mean, I like a con, and I have always liked, I'm like, eh, maybe I should just go cruise around for the day. I think like dropping the 250 bucks is what kind of deters me, but like, I bet it would be fun to just cruise around for a day. I mean, I'll tell you one more thing

in favor of Anime Expo. Not Smelly. Wow. OK. OK. Was not smelly in Anime Expo. And I'll tell you this. I do have one piece of constructive feedback for all of the cosplayers in Anime Expo.

I'd like to see them investigate using more natural textiles. I'd like to see more cotton, more linen, more wool. It's more sustainable. It's more comfortable. It's more sustainable. It's more comfortable. It's going to look more authentic. A lot of 3D printed armor is what you're saying. Yeah, I was just disappointed.

I mean, I understand the desire for fabric performance. I know people want four-way stretch and everything. But we don't need to lululemon everything. Sometimes we can just get a little bit of a flowing linen that's gonna help us in the summertime. That'll be nice, that'll be nice. But yeah, not even funky in anime.

Wow, there you go. I had such a great time. Bunch of fucking grown ass adults playing Beyblades together. Sure. Just 24 year old kids playing Beyblades, Beyblades X. Can I pivot to talk about another fandom, Jesse? Oh, please.

I wanna ask Ali about her, not recent fandom for Nine Inch Nails. Oh, it's very recent. But it's been a recent-ish, given your life. You're 63. So, the fact that you've been into it for five years. Previously, you had mostly been into the Guess Who. But this is like, you made this cover album

because you got super into Nine Inch Nails, but you hadn't been in, you didn't get into them in high school or whenever people typically get into Nine Inch Nails, right? That is right, yeah. I got into them two years ago and then immediately started making this album. So it was like, I heard them and I was like,

well, I've gotta make this my whole life now. Sure. Yep. You thought that was a Johnny Cash song. I hadn't even really heard it, like truly. It was the type of thing where I didn't know that Trent Reznor was Nine Inch Nails. And it truly is so much so that I don't think I made this tweet up,

but I have tried to find it, and I can't find it anymore. But someone had asked on Twitter, is the band name Nine Inch Nails referring to the quantity nine inch long nails? Like nine one inch nails? Or is it like? One horse size. Yeah, exactly.

And then Trent Reznor responded saying, oh, it's one horse sized cock size nail. But anyway, he said it's nine inch nails. It's the latter. And that kind of went viral because he like finally like said what it was. And I was like, who cares what Trent Reznor thinks about Nine Inch Nails? Because I did not know that was the guy. Let's hear you what you think about Stone Temple Pilots guy who did the music for the

social network. Yeah, exactly. Like the guy from Wings talking about the Beatles. Sure. Who cares if the guy from Wings talking about the Beatles. Sure, who cares if the guy from Wings thinks about the Beatles? He was the best one. But no, I truly just didn't, I really went over my radar. I just didn't really know Nine Inch Nails, and then I got into them at a time that I was going through a pretty bad breakup.

My cat was dying. It was the summer, which is already hard, because I didn't know about the Anime Expo, maybe had I gotten into that instead. But I was very... No, no, but these are the things that lead someone to get into Nine Inch Nails. I mean, this is a, yeah, this is a tale as old as time.

Exactly, and it was just like enough, like little heartbreak that I was like, ready for something kinda heavy and kinda angry, which is not, usually I just prefer to be sad. Sure, regular old sad. Yeah, if I'm gonna feel bad, I'd like to feel sad. But this time, you know. You have an entire album called

Sad Dance Songs out. I do. That is right. And so it was fun to have this new emotion called anger that I was able to get in touch with from Nine Inch Nails. And it really just kind of, in addition to it leading to me making an album that I'm very excited about, it really just kind of changed my life

in a lot of ways of like, I feel like I'm a lot cooler now. I didn't want to say anything, but you're pretty cool. You were right. Yeah. But no, and all Ernest does like, I do think that it allowed me to kind of hide behind like cartoons a little bit less as much as I love cartoons. Sure. I have quoted The Simpsons eight times already. Hey, listener, can you spot them all?

Go back and listen to the podcast. Send us your answers on a postcard. But I have found that there is a sweetness to Nine Inch Nails fans that you might not guess. But part of it could be that it is an aging demographic. And I do think it's possible that a lot of these kind of people that were listening to Nine Inch Nails in the 90s and when it was coming out might be ready for a softer, sweeter take

on these angry songs that they heard at an English school. They got a couple of kids and they're ready. But I went to see them live when they were on tour two years ago and it was so exciting because I was newly obsessed and I was right up in the front of the mosh pit, as much to the front as I was able to get before the people that were there

hours and hours and hours before the show started. And I was to the front as I was able to get before the people that were there hours and hours and hours before the show started. And I was a little scared because I hadn't really done a proper mosh pit before. Everyone was so nice. My retainer got knocked out of my mouth. And like, everyone helped me look for my retainer. Stop!

Stop the music, hold on. Yeah, but it was very fun. This is hundreds of dollars. Yeah. Well, hey, guys, I lost my retainer. Can we take a break and look for it? Lost my retainer today to see how it would feel, right? Let's take a break. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan Jesse Goh. It's Jordan Jesse Goh. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy detective.

Now Jordan, every episode of Jordan Jesse Goh is supported by Jordan Jesse Goh listeners who become members of Maximum Fund by going to MaximumFund.org slash join. Thank you to you Jordan Jesse Goh listeners who become members of Maximum Fund. We could not appreciate it more. You rule. We've got more episodes of Gracie's Game Gauntlet coming up. I don't think we've picked our next game. Oh yeah, there's a lot of good ones on the list and by good ones we mean bad ones. Maybe it'll be Superman 64. Oh yeah, yeah sure we can call that shot now if you want to, Superman 64. Superman 64 it is. Grace has told me a lot about how maddening the controls are. Yeah, I think it's a famously terrible game. Looks like it's sort of like Star Fox. Yeah, I think that's that was probably the part of the pitch, Star Fox, but with Superman, fly through rings.

Yeah, but I think it's much worse. Yeah, anyway. Fun to play Star Fox. Rings really were at the heart of video games for quite some time there. Yeah, I think the first fourier is into 3D. Is that what you do? You do a fourier?

Yeah. Foray. I'm thinking foray. Right, before you get into the living room in 3D. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, foray. I'm thinking forays. Right before you get into the living room, the 3D. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. We're also supported this week by Wild Grain. I have a child, one of my children, that aforementioned Grace, obsessed with croissants. But my real favorite thing to do with Wild Grain is at the farmer's market that I go to sometimes, there's a meat man.

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We think you'll like it, too. I'm going to order their new meat-based box. I don't think they have a meat-based box yet. They don't? They don't just have a meat... No meat breads. No ham croissants that are made of ham? No. I'll stick with the plant-based box.

That sounds the best of all. For a limited time, you can get $30 off the first box, plus free croissants in every box when you go to wildgrain.com slash jjgo to start your subscription. You heard me and Jesse, free croissants in every box and $30 off your first box when you go to wildgrain.com slash jjgo. That's wildgrain.com slash jjgo or you can use promo code jjgo at checkout. We're also supported this week by the folks at Stitch Fix.

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That's so convenient. And the stuff that's not quite right, easy to send back. They send you a giant prepaid envelope. Unfathomably easy. The sticker is already on the envelope. You don't even have to put the sticker on the envelope. I love it. It's great. So much fun. Save yourself some frustrating trips to the mall where nothing looks good. Stitch Fix. It's the best style that makes you feel as good as you look. Get started today at stitchfix.com

slash jjgo stitchfix.com slash jjgo that's stitchfix.com slash JJ Go. StitchFix.com slash JJ Go. That's StitchFix.com slash JJ Go. StitchFix.com slash JJ Go. Jordan, your new book is imminent. It is out this week. If you are listening to this, you can run out to a store or your favorite online retailer and get a copy of Youth Group. It is a YA horror comedy for me and artist, Bowen McGurdy, it's about teenage exorcists. It's got jokes, it's got friendship, it's got a little bit of romance, it's got gorgeous art, if you know Bowen, you know that they are quite the genius

and do beautiful expressive characters. Can I ask you a question? So this is the kind of YA that adults absolutely cannot enjoy, is that correct? Jesse, anybody from teens on up is gonna enjoy this thing. I think if you know, you're a fear fan of like a Buffy the Vampire Slayer, some of the spookier seasons of Riverdale, this is this is that kind of YA. Oh, well then thank God I pre-ordered it and it's about to show up in my mailbox.

Well, that's good. I got the hardcover Jordan. Well, there's a handsome hardcover. There's a hardcover and a softcover is more affordable. Well, that's good. I got the hardcover, Jordan. There's a handsome hardcover. And the softback's handsome too. The softcover is more affordable. The softback's more affordable. It's a great value, but I chose the hardcover. You know why?

Because Jordan's worth it. Thank you. But yeah, I really hope people like this book. I'm a little self-conscious about how much I've been talking about it. I've been pushing those pre-orders for a while because I'm really, really proud of it. Yeah, why would you push pre-orders for the incredible work of art you created?

Sure. This thing you spent literal years working on. I don't want people to be annoyed with me. I want them to think I'm cool and don't care. Everybody better fucking buy... How about this? Jordan, you don't care. You're too cool. I'm too cool. I don't... Whatever. Not me though. Yeah. Look in my eyes America

Why fucking Jordan's book you've been listening his fucking podcast for seven years you buy his fucking book is gonna be hilarious and moving That's right. Follow me on social media. I'll be announcing some events I'll be out there at Comic Con San Diego doing some panels doing some signings, please come find me there But uh, but yeah, please check out youth group I'm really really happy with it and I know it is sometimes challenging for comic books that do not feature Batman to find an audience. Why didn't you put Batman in it? I should have! I read the thing back for the first time, I'm like, how the fuck did I forget?

I spaced! I spaced. I should have had Batman. People love that guy. I accidentally didn't put Batman in it, so I hope it finds its audience. Congratulations, Jordan, and congratulations to everyone who's listening right now who just got their phones out,

went to a book-selling website, chose Youth Group by Jordan Morris, and hit order with their Apple or Android Pay. That's so easy. So simple. So easy, so easy. By the way, Jordan, our friend Matt Lieb gonna be in the Bay Area doing stand-up comedy. Isn't that right, Matt? Yeah, that's rightb, going to be in the Bay Area doing standup comedy. Isn't that right? That's right. I'm going to be in the Bay Area doing standup comedy. If you are in San Francisco, California, from July 24th to July 27th, that's Wednesday through Saturday, I'm going to be

featuring for Helen Hong. So, you know, JJ Go listeners are familiar with Helen's great work. So please come see me and Helen Hong at the San Francisco Punchline, the 24th through the 27th. That's one of our favorite pals, Helen Hong, from GoFact yourself. Love Helen. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan Jessica. La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la Somebody needs to hold that mirror up, you know? Sure, show the king. Am I not? He is human too. He is fallible, for he is man. You say somebody needs to,

and yet I just said that that's what my job is. Am I not doing a good job? Does someone need to hold a mirror to me? I think we want it to be a literal mirror, Ali. I think you're doing it with performance and shapes. My witty songs aren't cutting it. No, just hold up a mirror. You're overthinking it.

Damn it. I would love to see. I was just thinking about Slim Goodbody since he brought it up, Allie. I don't know of how many people who listen to this program remember children's public television host Slim Goodbody, possibly syndicated TV television host Slim Goodbody, which was a guy with a 70s haircut who wore a full bodysuit of the inside parts of your body and taught you about like nutrition I guess. Yeah. And while he did like a little dance. I used to get him confused with Richard Simmons to some extent. To some extent. Not fully

but anyway I'm saying let's cosplay Slim Goodbody. Let's bring it back. All you need is a fright wig and a fucking body suit of the insides of a human body. Well, I mean, Al, you were saying this earlier, I deal in a couple of giant tits, right? A couple of big naturals, I did that, right? Big natties. Look at the big natties on Slim Goodbody, ba-boom!

Slim Goodboogies. I mean, that is something. Ha ha ha ha! Slim good boobies. I mean, that is something. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha What are you talking about in the first place? There was a woman at the anime expo whose costume was just she was wearing all black and her shirt said, big heart, bigger ass. Yeah, that's true. And it's like, you know what, these are the vibes we need.

That was tuxedo mask. I think on again, off again, boyfriend. Big boobs, slim good body, would fit in comfortably at Anime Expo. Just any form of gender expression happening at that con. You love to see it. You love to see it expressed. Anyone can have big naturals at Anime Expo. Oh, I like that.

Yeah, that's their slogan for next year. It's summertime. It's summertime. We've been talking about Summerboy stuff. We have. But we also have another special summer celebration right around the corner. Right.

I mean, and it's starting earlier every year. We just took down the Summerboy decorations, and already the analogous stuff is going up. Yeah. So some years ago for your benefit- Hello, what about Thanksgiving? Jordan used to live around the corner from a famous sort of sex positive lesbian owned sex store here in Los Angeles. And one time he was walking past the store window and noticed

that they were celebrating analogous. And since that time, Jordan and I and the Jordan and Jesse Go community have been celebrating analogueist, which is not just a time for butt sex, although, you know, I'll just say, of course we encourage butt stuff. Yes, stick it wherever. Yeah. Although we know the watchwords of anal analogous without a base, without a trace. So be prepared for. Yeah, take a great care. But certainly, we want you stimulating the prostate.

We want you invigorating the nerve endings in the rectal area. What's happening? But we also, I I think we're celebrating. What don't you understand? Oh, that clears it up. We also see anal August as a time to celebrate expanding our horizons, so to speak, widening them. Yeah. Gaping our horizons. Just we want we want you using metaphorical poppers. Right. We really see analogous as

a time to expand your horizons. Think about what you have been scared to do that might benefit you if you gave it a try. What the confines of a loving relationship might allow you to explore. I mean getting in the mosh pit at a Nine Inch the confines of a loving relationship might allow you to explore. I mean, getting in the mosh pit at a Nine Inch Nails concert, a perfect example. I don't know if you're doing that during August, but that's an inspirational act that I think we would encourage. So apparently, you know, regardless of the fact that it's July, people are already celebrating, they can't get enough of this shit. And I guess we have a call. Matt, would you play our first Analogist Call of the Year? Hey, Jordan, Jesse, and I'm going to guess Oscar Montoya.

Close. I just wanted to call in in support of Analogist. I'm a non-binary, mask-presenting person attracted to femme people, and it wasn't until fairly recently, in part because of the support of Jordan, Jesse, Go, that I started putting stuff up my butt. And let me tell you, pretty great. Bit of advice for anybody curious out there, start smaller than you think, use more lube than you think, and always, always remember without a base, without a trace. Also, just for Jordan, I have an update for Banal Alkas. Another

thing I've gotten- Can you pause this for a second? So just to be clear, it has a counterpart. Okay. Which is Binal August. Jordan, do you want to explain? This is just celebrating the banal pleasures in life. Yeah, just a nice iced coffee. Yeah, grabbing a sandwich from the deli at the supermarket.

Mediocre butt sex. Yeah, okay, butt sex. You know, you could, you know, it's a routine. A love that you love your partner. A routine reaming. But it all sounds so different from anal, that's so funny. Not to explain your own joke to you. No, no, it's like a spelling joke.

I love it. Everybody loves funny spells. Getting a donut. Getting a donut. Putting together little wooden model kits, got a wooden wooden flower bouquet a little clockwork music box And even a quasi functional herty-gurty It's very nice just to take an edible kick back and put together little wooden pieces So that's my update for banal August and a support of anal August. I can't think of anything

Less banal and more exciting than a fucking herty-gurty of anything less penal and more exciting than a fucking hurdy-gurdy. You get yourself a hurdy-gurdy, quasi-functional or otherwise, you know what's around the corner, your own fucking monkey. That's, yeah. A hurdy-gurdy, that's a musical instrument, right? Yeah. Is it a, I'm picturing a square guitar. It's like, no, I think it's an organ that cranks. Isn't a hurdy-gurdy like, or is it a, or is it, it has like a bellows. I think it's a-

Those are such different things. I think it's an organ with a bellows. Matt, what the fuck's a hurdy-gurdy? I'll look it up. Thank you. This listener has it figured out. This sounds like a really beautiful life they're living. They have the pieces put together so thoughtfully,

so carefully, literally and metaphorically. Sure. Sure. OK. The future producer, Steven, showed me a picture of a hurdy-gurdy. And I just want to add, he did it so quick. Yeah. It was already.

Man, he's going to kill this. He's going to do so good. Already his desktop background. I feel like he's paying attention to the show. But a hurty-gurty. Impossible. I don't know what other way to describe it, but it's just a really thick violin.

OK. It's a thick violin? Yeah, it's kind of the thick good movies of violins. Thick with the keys. Like, it is wild. It's got tuning pegs, and it looks like it it is wild. It's got tuning pegs and it's got, it looks like it's got keys.

Yeah, the keys is what, huh. I was sure that it was a key thing. Yeah, but it looks like a violin. It's got the body of a violin. Or like a guitarone, if you're a mariachi band. So, it does have a crank. So, were we all right? It has a crank. Don. So, it does have a crank. So, were we all right? It has a crank.

It has a crank. Don't worry, it has a crank. It has a crank, yes. Story of my life. Oh my God, yeah, it looks like a loot with keys and a crank. So, did they say that they were building this or that they were just learning it?

I think they built one that was semi-functional. That was a model kit. So, I don't know how many of the functions. It sounds like this thing has functions to spare. Yeah, it does seem like it has all instruments. Does it have a couple castanets glued to the side too? I bet Trent Reznor could play one of these, right? Is this something Reznor has and he's making the music for?

I mean, on the tours, he brings a keyboardist and a guitarist and a drummer and everything But on the records, it's just Trent Reznor playing a herdy-cat I saw Nine Inch Nails live once It was I was working at a music festival and they were like the headlining act and I kind of like man I don't really care about Nine Inch Nails, but I'm like, well stick around I mean, I'm at this thing on the company dime. I might as well stick around and it fucking blew my mind It was so good. It was like an amazing live performance It would be so funny if your story and I didn't really like them

They put on such a good live show it's so much fun when my Middle kid was in school, she went to school. She had a buddy from school who lived in our neighborhood in a very nice house. And this kid's dad had the most beautiful music studio in the basement. Like one year, the birthday party was, come patch cables into cable holes on my moog in the basement, right? All you six-year-olds. Lovely man. And he had been and remains sometimes a film composer, made music for the movie Smoke Signals, if I remember correctly, but his main career is just him and a guy from Nine Inch Nails who's not Trent Reznor making music for commercials.

That's amazing. I just thought that was one of my first experiences living in Los Angeles. I knew a lot of, I don't know, Greg of Prupes's, right? I knew that that was a career. I knew people who did a thing that I associated directly with show business, such as performing standup comedy. But when I got to Los Angeles, that was my first lesson,

that an actual career in show business is being friends with a guy who's in Nine Inch Nails, but isn't Trent Reznor, and selling little tiny songs to TV commercials. I love it. That's a dream. Yeah. God, I'd love to be a guy that's in nine inch nails, but isn't Trent Reznor. Do you think if I brushed up on my herdy-gurdy?

Sure, yeah. Just get cranking, buddy. Honestly, I think the best I could hope for would be to be the monkey. Why is there a monkey? Yeah, well, don't you think there's like a monkey, a little monkey dancing around for quarters? Of course I do.

Oh, thank you, Alec. You're thinking this is something an organ grinder plays there's like a little monkey dancing around for quarters? Of course I do. Oh, thank you, Alex. You're thinking this is something an organ grinder plays and it has a trained monkey. Yeah, well the guy playing the hurdy-gurdy. It's got a crank. Yeah, it's got a crank. We Googled it. It's got a crank, there's a monkey. Hey, if you're cranking, there's a monkey.

And there's one thing I've learned from my years in the music business. If you're cranking, there's going to be a monkey. By the way- That's what I learned from the monkey business. All my years the way monkey business All my years in the monkey business, I know guys I know that not as fun as they say They say it's I know David O Russell is problematic now, but I gotta tell you then in the 90s I fucking loved crank the monkey

One of my favorite indie films of 1990. Yeah, I really said the movie crank was not about One of my favorite indie films of 1994. It's really sad the movie Crank was not about the 30s. Right, so Jason Statham trying to keep his heart rate up. When he should be cranking a little guitar piano while a monkey joins him. The monkey doesn't join him, the monkey does a dance. Yeah, they're partners. They're partners. That's what I meant.

That's why he's wearing the vest. He joins them on stage right? Well, are you all saying the same thing? We're all saying the same no We're fighting Jesse's I'm wrong about the monkey. He's not just gonna dance every time you crank it It's gonna be a lot of dancing. I get it, I get it. It's gonna be a lot to dance. You're not some dancing monkey, this monkey that dances.

Monkey. Okay, let's get cranking. Yeah, take a break. If you're celebrating Analogist or want to share a momentous occasion with us or hey, how about this? Or if you read it on the internet and want to share something fun with us,

send it to us at jjgoatmaximumfun.org. You can just record a voice memo, send it along to us or you can always give us a call 206-984-4FUN, 206-984-4FUN. There was no Ultramans? I thought there would be a few Ultramans. I always love to see a nice Ultraman. I mean, maybe those are,

maybe because he's mostly a live action character. Yeah, so he's fucking, these people would kick his ass. I think if you walk into there wearing a fucking Ultraman, or that like, you know, Power Rangers either. Maybe people tried to walk in his Ultraman and then they got kicked to the curb. Sure. Yeah. Some were killed and thrown in the parking garage.

There's this guy that kind of looks like a stegosaurus with a narwhal nose. I kind of like that guy. If you went in there though, these Luffy's would kick the shit out of you. Not a cartoon. These Luffy's don't care for that Ultraman bullshit. You can't even get a Godzilla t-shirt in this place. Not a cartoon. Iay there are Godzilla cartoons, but he's mostly a live action character. He's a big lizard.

You're right, that's right, Ali. You know who Godzilla is. I went in my Grave of the Fireflies cosplay. I feel like you're bumming us out. No, I'm surviving the fire bombing of Tokyo. For a time. It's a sad movie. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan.

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Save yourself from this terrible fate by listening to Reading Glasses. We'll help you get those borrowed books back and solve all your other reader problems. Reading Glasses, every Thursday on Maximum Fun. It's Jordan, Jesse Goh. I am Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, Boy Detective. I'm Allie Gertz. I play the Thorne, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy detective. I'm Allie Goertz. I play the herdy-gurdy with a little monkey. So do you and the monkey, do you each play the same? Please respect our privacy at this time.

We don't go around asking you about your monkey. What Allie does with her monkey on stage is your business. And the audience shouldn't even be watching. All blindfolds. Yeah. It's like a backwards eyes wide shut. The audience is blindfolded. Ally and the monkey, they're doing their thing and what they do is no business of ours. But it's still kind of a Christmas movie. And there you guess. Of course it's a Christmas movie. I'd love to do a monkey show of any kind.

That would be great. Do you think we could get a monkey to go on tour with us, Jordan? I think it would rip off our face and genitals. Probably by Minneapolis? Let's say, okay, we're starting in Portland. Yeah, we got Portland, Seattle. Seattle.

I think those are gonna go fine. Those will go fine. Minneapolis, our. I think those are gonna go fine. Those will go fine. Minneapolis, our face and generals are a gonzo. But on the plus side, good Ethiopian food. Yeah, sure. Okay, well there's a lot to recommend about Seattle, whether you're having your, sorry, Minneapolis, whether you're having your face and generals ripped off

or not. All I'm saying is, I mean, what do we draw? You know, we're playing 200 seeders. I think if we add a monkey, we get up to four or five. Yeah, I'm sure. I think that's a great. I think it's worth the genital thing. Sure. I would go for sure. If you guys have a monkey. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Okay. Would you be willing to open for, you know what? Open for the monkey? I've told you once, I've told you a hundred times. Monkey first.

Yeah. I'm not going on after that monkey. The monkey opens for me. Debbie Seyfield wouldn't go on tour with us because he didn't want to have to follow a monkey. Never follow a monkey. Well, let's do it. If you are out there and you're a monkey who's interested in touring the nation.

Yeah. Pick up the phone and dial it. That would be really cool. Reunstyle, that's fun. That would be, yeah Pick up the phone and dial it. That would be really cool. Sure. That would be fun. That would be, yeah. Dial it with your tail.

That would be funny. Your little tail. Folks, if you're out there and you're a monkey who'd like to tour with us, put on a little business suit. We think that would be great. That would be cute. That would be fantastic.

And bang your keyboard around, because you don't know how this thing works. You know what? How about that meme? Folks, if you're out there and you're Lancelot Link's secret champ, we want to hear from you. I wonder how the Ikea monkey is. Do we know?

Oh, how is Ikea monkey? Let's not do the math, because I don't want to know that he's dead. Yeah, and what he's ripped off of his owners. What's Ikea monkey? Oh, do you remember there was a little owners. What's Ikea Monkey? Oh, do you remember there was a little monkey who walked into Ikea wearing a little coat? It was so cute.

This is one of the, this is a, this is a like hall of fame meme. Yeah, it's so long ago. This is a hall of fame top 10 meme. But he looked really regal and fancy to me. He was really cute. Yeah. And he's staring wistfully out the door.

Ikea Monkey after dentist. It was the same time. Yes. Yeah, kind of this is the age of me can I tell you this if I was a fucking monkey Yeah, I think an Ikea is fun for you Who has he killed or maimed? It doesn't list that on Wikipedia. I would think it would.

He resides in a mixed indoor-outdoor enclosure and enjoys playing on a jungle gym made from fire hoses. He murdered Macaulay Culkin. Sure. Big work. Yeah. This is what NopePE is about. Oh, it says, I think it's funny that this picture that I Googled, the headline was,

stylish but illegal monkey. The monkey's illegal? That's what they say about me. Stylish but illegal. That's what they say about my giant tits. You know, if this Supreme Court keeps at it, pretty soon monkeys are going to be illegal everywhere. Thank you. Anyway, vote monkey. Vote monkey no matter who.

Vote monkey no matter who by Jordan. Anyway, Ali, we should. OK, so you have this new Nine Inch Nails cover album. That's right. You are generally look, you do. Okay, so you have this new Nine Inch Nails cover album. That's right. You are generally, look, you do have a very electronic dance music album. However, in general, I have known you to make gentle, acousticky music. That is true. Is this in the gentle, acousticky music genre?

It is a little bit spicier than the music I've made in the past. It kind of sounds like if the music that we know from me in the past was a little bit more like Nine Inch Nails. So it's actually surprisingly a little bit more intense but it's still very soft and pretty as well. So the one song that I thought we could play is actually a little different from the rest of the album. It's kind of groovy and bassy and fun and dancey. I do like the dancey. Is it OK if I say who produced the record?

Rick Rubin produced the album. It was an incredible idea. He wanted to bring out what was already inside Ally. He just sat down cross-legged with no socks on, said, I knew the Beastie Boys in college, and then she made this record. Well, actually, I do have a producer that I co-produce this with that is Rick Rubinesque, and his name is Adam Bush,

and he's a friend of Jordan's. He's wonderful. Oh, yeah, Adam Bush, great guy. And he did very much, pretty much do the same type of thing of sitting me down and being like, why don't we pull out some more of this type of stuff and it was really fun because otherwise I would have kind of maybe wanted to hide behind the gimmick but there is no gimmick on this it really isn't meant to be like wouldn't it be funny if we had these songs sound you know acoustic and like a sad girl

singing them it really was just like man I love Nine Inch Nails and I really want to sing these songs in a new way. I got to hear some early versions and they're really terrific. And they have some terrific videos to go along with them too. Oh, I'm very excited for those. And Adam is in one of those. If you guys aren't familiar with Adam by name alone, you might remember him as Warren from Buffy. Adam's had a wild career. Yes, you guys have done some stuff together. That being said, as much as I was like, it's not a gimmick I the song that I chose to play easily the funniest song on this On the album. You gotta leave them laughing. What's the song we're gonna hear? Big Man with a Gun So this is a song that I think Trent Reznor is on record is not liking very much, but I love it

It is very very different from the source material. I would argue that hearing a softer, female-sounding voice changes the lyrical content quite a bit. Okay. Well, that's what we're going to hear from our pal, Allie Gertz, Jordan Jesse Goh, produced by Matt Lieb one final time. This is our last time out, right, Matt? This is my last show producing. Thank you for all your wonderful work. Yeah. Thank you. Everybody, of course, can continue to hear Matt both on his own podcasts

and as the producer of Jordan's other podcast, Free with Ads. Thank you for all your great work, Matt. We really appreciate it. You've done a wonderful job. Absolutely. Also, I will be back next week as the guest on Jordan Jesse Ego. Oh, great.

While I control the calendar. How do we get Matt? How'd you get him? I called my guys Michael's guys called me and my guy I control the calendar control Well, he still has editor privileges on GCAL Allie if people want to listen to your record, what are we looking at your Apple Music senior Spotify's? Yeah, it's streaming everywhere as of July 9th.

And you could also get it from AlliGurts.Bandcamp.com. AlliGurts.Bandcamp.com. That sounds like the perfect place to get it because it's artist positive and you can buy the record and you actually earn some money. Yeah, that's the only way that I'll make money. But you could listen to it whatever you want. Yeah, we're grateful to you for supporting the homie. Alligarhstypegreencap.com is where I'm sending people.

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