Jordan, Jesse, GO! - Stop Trying To Make Etch Happen, with Aisha Harris

Episode Date: July 11, 2024

This week we welcome writer and podcast Aisha Harris (Pop Culture Happy Hour) for a conversation about hot takes, Jurassic Park, and the world’s fastest ‘Etch A Sketch’ artist.Visit SolarSlice.com and buy a Slice on Kickstarter today. Together, we can build a cleaner, greener world, one Slice at a time.Jordan Morris is doing a book tour for Youth Group! See him at the OC Book Fair on July 13th, or see him in Sacramento at the Wild Sisters Book Company July 19, or see his panel at SD Comic Con on July 26 from 1pm-2pm. Come see Judge John Hodgman: Road Court  live in a town near you! Jordan and John will be all over the country so don't miss your change to see them. Check the events page to find out where!

Give a little time for the child within you. Don't be afraid to be young and free. Undo the locks and throw away the keys and take off your shoes and socks and run you. It's Jordan, Jesse Goh. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy, detective. Jordan, why won't our leaders take on the real issues? They're cowards, all of them.

I'm talking about too big of pork chops. Oh my gosh, Jesse, did you have a pork chop problem recently? They're cowards, all of them. I'm talking about too big of pork chops. Oh my gosh, Jesse, did you have a pork chop problem recently? God, this pork chop is really big! The pork chops come so large from the store, but I don't want to leave any of it on my plate. I cooked it myself. So you're full of pork. I'm full of pork and mushroom sauce, Jordan.

So watch out! How do you think that's going to affect your performance today? I mean it's going to have a lot more umami than normal. I'm not talking about the podcast, I'm talking about later with the wife. Oh okay. Yeah well a lot more umami than normal. Okay so we were both on the same page. Yeah exactly. I've been doing summer activities Jordan. I'm not a summer boy as you know. I have to Jordan. I'm not a summer boy. As you know, I have to really work hard to be a summer boy. I don't know. I've been to backyard barbecues at your house. That's true. That's pretty summer boy. You'll take a trip. Although a backyard

barbecue at my house typically involves going down to the corner and buying a shit ton of tamales. It does not involve me actually barbecuing for others. It's not on the table. But yeah, it works for me. It works for me. I'm a real Dave Schumpka from Stop Podcasting yourself when it comes to summer, which is to say I can hardly bear it. All right. But I do try to focus in on good summer boy activities to make up for the weather and the... So this weekend... Yeah, sounds like a great way to cope. This weekend, I bought some summer-themed sparkling water. Ooh, okay. You got a Waterloo mixed... Is that a mixed berry?

That's a summer berry, Jordan. Summer berry. Those are summer berries. Nice. That are summer berries. Nice. That'll be refreshing. I went to the pool two times. Great. You're two for two. A lot of people out there are thinking, Jesse, you're going to the Verdugo Aquatic Center now? No, the Lincoln Park Pool. There's other pools in the area that we can mention. There are other local pools besides the one we bring up too much. And I made my own bacon. Hey, okay. You're three for three, Jesse. Is that good enough? If I still curse God every time I cross my threshold, does it still count as being a summer boy if I do some summer activities? Yeah, I think so. I think waging war with the Almighty, pretty fun summer activity.

Defying his will. That's true, yes. Building a tower that is meant to shame him. I'm talking about the Babel Tower of Babel. That's a dope tower. great language learning app, too. Well, that's what someone would say. That's what's... Great tower, great app. These are all things you would say if you wanted to wage war on the King of Kings.

No, I don't. I have nothing but fond regard for the KOK. My main beef is with the weather that he gives me between the months of June and weirdly in Los Angeles it always feels like November. You know he works in mysterious ways Jesse sometimes maybe that hot weather is making you stronger it's it's or it's making you appreciate when fall she comes around and she does. Listen, I think we can all agree summer's a boy and fall is a girl. And winter is non-binary and spring is still deciding, flexible. Sure, yeah. We're all on a journey, spring included.

Circular journey. Spring included. Yeah. A circular journey through the seasons. Should we introduce our guest and find out if she's been engaging in any summer activities? God, I would love to do that. Our guest, Aisha Harris, is co-host and critic for NPR's pop culture happy hour with past Jordan Jesse go friends, Glenn Weldon and Linda Holmes, among others, Jordan Morris from time to time. Well, shucks. By the way, when I say past Jordan Jesse go friends, I mean that we're not

friends with Glenn and Linda anymore. Glenn and I still text from time to time. I'll have you know, I stopped being I stopped being friends with Glenn as soon as I watched Batman Forever in his recommendation. Oh boy. Here we go. You know, actually, let's introduce the guest. This actually leads into something I want to talk about. Great.

She also has a new book called Wannabe Reckonings with the pop culture that shapes me. Aisha Harris, welcome to Jordan and Jesse Goh. It's nice to have you here. Hello. I see Waller dumping on my co-hosts over here before I even get on the show. Yeah, well. We think that's a great way to introduce someone.

Yeah. It's great to be here, though. And also, I will say, since we're sharing our summer boy things, I myself have a seltzer, a summer seltzer. It's mango flavored. It's very good. Okay, okay. What's that brand? A Daypack? I've not heard of a Daypack. Oh my god. Well, I don't want to sound like I'm shilling for them, but I've become obsessed with this company. They have all these different flavors. They have mango, black cherry. My

partner buys cases of them. They're very expensive. But like, I buy cases of them by two or three days in, they're all gone. But they're so good. They're so refreshing. Is this an alcoholic or a non-alcoholic product? Oh, it's not alcoholic. It's just water, zero calories, and just flavored fancy water. That's it. It says on the can, Aisha, that it's hops infused. It's hops infused, but it is non-alcoholic. They make hoppy water now, I promise you. It sounds horrible to me.

That's why you're in such a good mood. You're hopped up on hops. I'm hopped up on hots. Hopped up on the bubbly. I'm hopped up on hops. I'm hopped up on hots. Hopped up on the bubbly. Aisha, I wanted to ask, being a critic on pop culture happy hour, you have to have takes. You have to have takes on pop culture. Yes.

Do you have a take or takes that have been regarded as spicy? Have you had to answer for yourself for a take or two in the past? Oh, I definitely have. But I honestly don't know. This is putting me on the spot because I'd have to go back into the recesses of my mind. I can't think of anything recently that people have gotten upset with me about. But it's definitely happened before, which is why I've learned to never read the Facebook comments.

Just don't, because that's I love myself too much. That's just asking for it. I feel like Facebook commenters usually have a lot of interesting things to say, a lot of insights. Oh, sure. And a lot of fun Minions memes, too. Yes, they love the Minions. Those yellow things. I will say I've never seen Despicable Me, so maybe that's a spicy take. I don't know.

Oh yeah, okay. I'm in a- Flood Aisha's comments with minions memes. Listen, okay, Aisha, just so you know, I've seen a Despicable Me and liked it quite a bit. I will say that in my experience, the minions you will see on Facebook are saying things like, don't talk to me until I've had my coffee.

Yes, I've seen that. Bush did 9-11. Yeah. These are not things they say in the films. Oh, I know. They say gibberish and banana. The one with the goggles, he says the criminals come from south of the border.

And also, rosé all day. Oh, yes. It's a combination of weird conspiracy shit and millennial shit. That is what the minions will say on Facebook. They do not say these things in the film. I'll tell you this. The last remaining thing that I was consistently doing on Facebook, other than finding part suppliers for my weird Japanese van, there's a Facebook group for the weird Japanese van, was being in a Facebook group for my favorite baseball nerd podcast, effectively wild. It was wonderful. It was like a cozy, comfortable place where I could go, where everyone there was already a heavy duty baseball nerd with a lot of positive vibes and no one would say anything deeply dumb. And then at some point like six months ago Facebook changed the way that their interface works so that posts from

groups that you're not in will be suggested to you if you like the subject of the group. Yeah, I've seen that. And it is the most vivid reminder of how awful people that like baseball and write things about it on Facebook are. Just truly the worst old white men in the history of the world, just heinous human beings who will just come in and be like, I'm so sick of your nerd shit. It's the cancel culture of sports or whatever or whatever. How is now in the minds of these people you're talking about,

how is cancel culture manifesting itself in baseball? Well, some baseball players are bad people. Okay. They may be punished for being bad people, but they deserve another chance because the person who accused them of being bad was a crazy so-and-so. Okay. Okay.

Yeah, I can follow this. Yes, yes. We've okay. I can follow this. Yes, yes. We followed it on the internet. Or just like, because like, they announced that like, the Negro leagues were a major league, and so Josh Gibson has the best batting average

of all time now. Okay. Yeah. Okay. These are horrible people, these commenters, these commenters are horrible people. These commenters. These commenters are horrible people. Aisha, do you have a cozy place on the internet you like to hang out where you can avoid this shit? Do you have an app or a subreddit or a zone that you like a lot? Please say r slash marbles. Please say r slash marbles.

I only go on Facebook now really so I can avoid reading posts about Pop-Potter, Javier, and also my HOA. They have like, anytime someone tries to break into our garage, it's a whole thing. So I stay away from that. I think my cozy place on the internet is probably, I don't know, I guess off the top of my head, I follow or I've been reading religiously now for the last several years, Tom Bryan's number one songs series that he's been doing on Stereogum. He is going through literally every single Billboard Hot

100 number one. Ooh, I love that shit. That's great. Yeah. Starting as far back as like the 1950s. I can't remember what the first number one was, but like, he's now up to 24. Probably a song about a boat or a car. Probably. No, it was just Merzied Oats.

To those who have made it, it was Merzied Oats. Or a dead teenager, who knows, you know. All I want for Christmas is my two front teeth. I guess you can't have a lot of songs about a car and a dead teenager if they died on some sort of curve or pass. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, that's a cozy place. It's weekly, so every Monday he'll have a new column about, and he's going chronological order. So he's up to 2014, which was a very dark year. That was the year that Fancy by Iggy Azalea dominated for the entire summer. And then Megan Trainor's all about that.

We're in deep dark times, but now we're all sometimes at, I vividly remember. I'm like, oh, I remember where I was. I remember this song being everywhere. And it's fun because it has all these commenters in the comments section who have been also reading this column for the last several years and they're very devoted. I lurk. I'm not like, I'm not someone who actually like enjoys writing in comment sections.

Maybe it's just because I'm in media and like, why would I do that? But I love lurking and seeing the people. Also, you're not having an episode or a breakdown. Why would you comment unless you were doing one of those two things? Exactly. But the people in the comments for the most part are just like they've all become internet buddies and they have like recurring things that they respond to. And it's just really, it's kind of lovely. I just love lurking and seeing it from afar. So I think that's kind of my cozy space on the internet. I just got pitched Iggy Azalea for Bull's Eye the other day.

Wait, are you kidding? I'm not kidding. Oh my God. Not even at all. Oh, Iggy. Not even a little bit. Iggy, Iggy. Yeah.

I had a tough moment recently when one of my internet safe spaces was violated. I was called fat in the Ska subreddit. What? Oh no. Yeah. Rude. Yeah. Okay.

So I will occasionally do bits on a very popular, very funny YouTube show called Good Mythical Morning. Hosts Rhett and Link have been on this show. We love them. We love the show. By and large, very nice fans. And I went on the show not too long ago wearing a shirt for the band Catbite, who are a great kind of modern two-tone style ska band, handsome shirt too.

And then that led to a lot of nice things. People are like, hey, I like this band, you know, and there's a lot of, you know, you get to see where those two fandoms overlap, but a lot of good vibes. People tagging Kat by it, they seem to really like it. But then the photo made its way onto the Ska subreddit, and it devolved into a conversation about which celebrity I look like but fat. Oh no! Oh no!

In 2024, why are we judging people's bodies? I don't know. Like why? And especially there. It's not like I was posting about my gains in a bodybuilding subreddit. Once our friend, Carrie Poppy from Oh No Ross and Carrie told me that someone posted, I can't remember, I think it was a YouTube comment on a video that she was in that she looked like if the grandma from dinosaurs

was fuckable. Funny enough, I'm going through a dinosaurs rewatch right now. Okay, Aisha, which of the dinosaurs is the most fuckable? That's what we want to talk about. It's got to be Earl, right? He's the big king. It's not the mama. That's for sure. I wouldn't share this info.

To be clear, I wouldn't share this information if it weren't something that brought Carrie immense amusement. But it is truly wild the extent to which people will have specific in-depth conversations about how someone looks only on the internet. Sure. Like, the internet is a place that people go to make really weirdly specific comments about how other people look. Not just, like there's plenty of people out there

on the internet being like, fat, ugly, but like, it's the, yeah, it's the specificity of it that's upsetting. Yeah, the only place that I think it's okay is that fashion Twitter guy who's like, the menswear guy who's always commenting, like he's, that's his thing. Derrick Guy. Derrick Guy menswear guy who's always commenting. He like he's that's his thing. Derek guy He Derek guy. Yeah, he's my employee. Oh

He works for me. Yes. Well, I love his threads His threads are great and it's great and they're historically, you know So in more his threads are nice in more ways than one exactly. He lives in Oakland just like you Oh, look at that. Everyone all the good people are in Oakland. That's what I say. Aisha, how's that dinosaurs rewatch going? I was a huge dinosaur kid. So was I.

Yeah. Yeah. I have not revisited it as an adult. This is the Jim Henson Company dinosaur puppet sitcom that weirdly aired on Friday nights for a couple years as we were kids. The Jim Henson Company high quality transparent Simpsons knockoff. Yes. You know what?

It still holds up. I really enjoy it. It is, you know, it's silly. There's a lot of puns and all the, I can never say this word correctly, but anthropomorph, turning all the, you know what I'm trying to say. Anthropomorphic, is that where we're at? Oh yes, yes, look at you. Anthropomorphizations?

I thought you were gonna say animorphs. Oh man, also a classic TV show slash talk. God, I wanna read some animorphs. Yeah, those covers. They were so cool. The covers were so cool. I mean, to me, the covers were the best part, honestly. I mean, guys, let's get into it.

Who's the most fuckable Animorph? Yeah. A lady who turns into a frog. Shut up, I hate you. So ready with that. Our friend television writer Jane Espenson, when I met her, I believe she's been a guest on Jordan. She was a guest on Jordan, I should go at some point, right Jordan?

Had to have been. I think she was. But anyway, Jane Espenson, like when I first met her, she was working for, she was working on Battlestar Galactica and she was probably best known as a long-time writer on Buffy. I watched and liked Battlestar Galactica, but Buffy was never for me. And I was like, I was glad to meet her because she's a cool lady, but I was not intimidated until I found out she wrote on dinosaurs. That is an amazing credential to have.

She should be, or she should feel so proud. Aisha, I brought up spicy takes earlier because Jesse has dropped a couple on this show recently and I kind of wanted to check in. I wanted to see how you felt about these, but also just check in with Jesse and see if you've received any blowback, any support, there's two takes that I had in mind. One, I totally support and am excited about. One, I do not wish to associate myself with. Take one.

Honestly, Jordan, I'm surprised that you're willing to associate yourself with one out of two. Yeah. This one's great. This is the one I love, and I hope people are giving you your flowers for because it's great and I think it needed to be said. That the Jurassic Park sequels are a goddamn blast and we should like them and appreciate

them. Yeah, I was shocked to learn that one. I had never seen any of them. I watched them and they were fun. Yeah, I was I was shocked to learn that one. Those those I had never seen any of them. I watched them and they were fun. Yeah, totally. And pretty. Yeah, I mean, pound for pound. I think, you know, it's SQL for SQL. Pretty great franchise. They're all a lot of fun. Some are more successful than others. But I always have a great time when I'm visiting the big JP. All right. So we're talking the original Jurassic Park sequels

or not Jurassic World. Okay, I haven't seen any I can't speak The big JP. So we're talking the original Jurassic Park Sequel or are we getting the whole franchise? Yeah, not Jurassic World. Okay, okay. I haven't seen any. I can't speak to it. I can't tell you one way or the other about the Jurassic World. I haven't seen them. But I've recently watched Jurassic Park 2 and 3. And I enjoyed both of them completely. I can't say that they're great films, but neither's Jurassic Park. So I mean, they're all enjoyable. Jurassic Park's a little better. Jurassic Park's a fun, very nice movie.

Jurassic Park is great. Let's not be. Let's not be. Yeah, Jesse sees a take that everyone's enjoying. He's like, ah, time to gum up the works. I'm trying to help. I'm helping you out here, buddy. I enjoyed those Jurassic parks and I enjoy regular Jurassic Park as well. Let's start there. Have you heard from William H. Macy's people? Have you heard from Taya Leone's people thanking you for saying such nice things about JP3? Thanking you for saying such nice things about JP3. I heard from William H. Macy's people.

He asked if I could help his kids get into Dartmouth. I told him, sorry, I went to UC Santa Cruz. I can introduce you to my friend Jordan. He works on Good Mythical Morning. That's true. And I have Photoshop in a photo of a crew team. Yeah, exactly. I could put your kid's heads wherever. Call me. Honestly, I have been surprised at how little feedback I've gotten about that Jurassic Park 2 and 3 take.

Jurassic Park 2 and 3, I had only known by repu- I'd never seen them as a teen when they came out. I only knew them by reputation as like ruining the legacy of Jurassic Park or whatever. And so when they were cool, exciting, fun movies that are a little dumb, but I mean, so what? It's fine. It's not a big deal. They're fucking cool and exciting. They look cool. All the actors are good. It's fun. Yeah, yeah.

That's the one where I think that nerds pounced on them in a weird way. Yeah, this is why we don't have nice things, is because something in them rubbed your brain the wrong way, and then for some reason, 1,000 other people latched onto the opinion, because everybody just latches on to an opinion without thinking. Anyway, yeah, that's I hope we can all enjoy the fun of the JP sequels. Here's the one

I can't get behind. And I'm wondering where you're at with this. Cybertrucks are cool. Oh, god, no. Yeah. No, I just saw one recently. Jurassic Park Mid Cybertrucks Cool says Jesse Thorne. Yeah, no. Mid plus, mid plus. No, no, they look ridiculous and they look like, no, yeah, no. That's what's good about them. No one else has the guts to do anything with cars. No one is making any choices at all.

Make choices. I mean, I guess. I guess it's a nice way to signal that you are a douchebag. Look, I'm not, I can't dispute, I can't, I don't own one of these. I can't dispute the douchebag related problems with the brand. Yes. Who's, maybe this is what I don't know who you can you can't see in the Cybertruck who's behind the wheel typically.

I mean, I think I have a sense of who it is. But who knows it could be a soccer mom for all we know. No, I think it's a guy that's being mean to you on Twitter. Yes, it's a guy who pays for the check mark. Okay, sure. Yes. To get to the front of the line of people telling you what celebrity you look like but fat.

Yeah, I think this is my feeling about it. You know how if you ever see like a magazine article about a really wild ass like concept vehicle and they're like, yeah, the Volkswagen duo is going to blow your fucking mind and you look at it and they're like, oh, look at this, we thought we would make the Volkswagen duo duo with a lawnmower built in and fucking 17 shovels and a cooler that will freeze carcasses for you, whatever, right? It's like this whole crazy thing. And then later on, you just get a Jetta, right? Like five years later, a Jetta comes out.

And they're like, here it is. All the lessons we learned from making that carcass cooler we've we put in to the uh high quality faux leather of these seats do they still make jettas i feel like i have not heard that that's not aisha that's not jettas pretty cool that's a fun car for taking to the beach throw a cooler back there a couple of beach chairs. Whereas with this cyber truck, they were like, we're going to make this crazy fucking truck. They showed it to us. They said, look at this crazy ass truck. And now granted, do they say it was going to come out like 18 months later

or something and came out seven years later or something? Yes. But then when it came out, it was just as fucking crazy as when they showed it to us in the first place, because they have the courage of their convictions. Is it related to Elon Musk that it came out? The Cybertruck, is it related to Tesla and Elon Musk? He's still the boss of Tesla. OK, and it is a Tesla thing. Yeah, it's a Tesla and Elon Musk? He's still the boss of Tesla. Okay. And it is a Tesla thing. Yeah, it's a Tesla vehicle.

Yes. Yeah, I think that's why it is for assholes. I mean, it's also ridiculous. It's not super, not particularly functional either. I don't think it's probably very good at being a pickup truck. I bet the minion memes from the Cybertruck drivers are like the minion and it says, don't talk to me until I've had my bacon. Oh, and they laugh. They laugh and they laugh. Okay. Are you sure you've had your time? What's your spicy takes?

Okay, fine. Um, I mean, I feel like the spiciest take, or one of the spiciest takes that I've had in my career at least was probably when I came for Dolly Parton. But I didn't mean to. Not, okay, to frame this correctly. Yeah. God tier.

I love this. I love this. So if you Google my name and Dolly Parton, I will come up as having written a piece back in 2017 when I was still at sleep. Also, if you listen to the podcast, Dolly Parton Saves America, or what is it called? Dolly Parton's America.

I pop up on there as well. But essentially, Dollywood, she has. Hold on. When you say you pop up on there as well. But essentially, Dollywood, she has- Hold on, when you say you pop up on there, like did Jad, that's the one that Jad Abumrad made, right? Yes, I was interviewed about, yeah. He called you to say, he called you because he heard you were the only person in the world that doesn't like Dolly Parton?

I love Dolly, by the way. She's great. Okay, let's hear the check, let's hear the check. I just wanted, but because I love her and I admire her and I appreciate her I also think like, you know, we got a whole the people we we love to account for things that they do And so if you've been to Dollywood in Tennessee, this is the one time I went to Tennessee pigeon Forge, Tennessee There is a she has like this dinner theater show that has been running for like 30 plus years. It's kind of like medieval times, but instead it's Dolly themed. It's a huge giant arena that holds like hundreds and hundreds of people. And when I went, I'd heard about this and I was sent out there on assignment to go find out about this right after the Charlottesville stuff happened. The tiki, you know, The tiki torches and all that stuff. And she had a show that legit was basically like springtime for the Confederacy. You got to choose which side you wanted to sit on of the arena, either

the gray side or the blue side. No! The north side or the south side. That's real? What? It was real. What? It was real. What? The show, look, just go read the piece, but basically I gave a review of every crazy thing that happens, including when I went to the bathroom and the bathroom had Northerners

only and Southerners only on the bathroom stalls. Oh. Yes. Wow. And there was like a whole like thing celebrating the South and pretending like the Civil War. It was basically the Gone with the Wind version of the Civil War.

We're just gonna pretend that like slavery didn't happen, but it was just all about genteel women and like Southern gentlemen. The tour of Northern aggression. Exactly. So I know there's a lot to unpack here How's the food In fact if I remember correctly, I think I described it as good but not quite cracker barrel like cuz cracker barrel is like pretty good

You know for what it is. Great chicken fried steak, great rocking chair. Yes. It was also just too much food, but of course it was, because it was in the South. But anyway, I wrote this piece. Can I take this rocking chair to go? That's what I'm doing.

I eat the rocking chair. I wrote this piece. It was a spicy take. And then the Dali fans and slash all the Confederate apologists came for me and were like, how dare you? Dali donates books? And I'm like, I know she does, but she's also making it seem as though slavery was not a thing and that the Civil War wasn't- She cured COVID. God, I got to come up with it, donates books. My takeaway from this is I got to come up with

it donates books because anytime anybody... You always hear about Dolly donating these books. It's great that she does this. She's extraordinarily rich. She is extraordinary. It's great that she uses it to donate the books. It's nice that she declines to say terrible things about gay people, though she doesn't necessarily say good things about gay people. It's nice. It's good that she does. She's an old lady. It's good that she does that. I interviewed her once. She just brought full Dolly Parton. It was lovely. She's lovely. And she's one of the great American singers, No fucking doubt about it. As great a singer as there is ever. Al Green tier, top tier. That's the number one tier.

Yeah. But she's also, you know, she's got her blind spot and I pointed out her blind spot. And then a few months later, they changed the name. It was no longer called Dolly Parton's Dixie Stampede. It's now called Dolly Stampede. And a reader actually told me that they, I didn't go back, but like they said that they had like, toned down the North versus South like, civil war stuff. Now it's just pirates fighting each other. You know what I heard? She does have a pirate show though, or she did have a pirate show.

What? She did have a pirate, she had a pirate theme show at like a different location at one point. I don't know if it still exists. Man, fingers in a lot of pies Dolly has them. She's, yeah, she's. She had for a while, did you, have you ever been to Dollywood, Jordan?

No, I haven't. I'm gonna go to Memphis later this year. I'm hoping maybe I can squeeze in a trip. I don't know how close Dollywood is to Memphis. If you do go to Dollywood, don't miss the Waterworld stunt show. Because it is incredible. Dolly Parton herself does the flame fall.

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better for the future of our planet. Jesse, now I want to help the environment. So this is kind of what I've been doing. Drinking Dr. Slice. Drinking Dr. Slice and recycling the cans. Now that seems like it's probably pretty good for the environment. Bad for my teeth, if you ask my dentist. Hello, Dr. Horwitz.

This is Jesse. Is this good or bad for Jordan's teeth? That's called an akitao, Jordan. It was really good. For the folks listening at home, Jesse made a little phone with his hand, talked into the hand. We all had a good time.

Okay, so drinking Dr. Slice and recycling the cans, pretty good for the environment, pretty bad for your teeth, but you know what's good for the environment and neutral for teeth, it's buying a slice. This is their slogan, by the way. Yes. This is their neutral for teeth. You buy a slice of a solar farm and you add 50 watts of clean energy to the grid. They've got an app that shows you exactly how much energy your slice produces and the

carbon emissions you're preventing. You get eco points to plant trees, buy more slices or support other green initiatives. Are you ready to take action? Visit solarslice.com buy a slice on Kickstarter today. Together we can build a cleaner, greener world one slice at a time. That's solar slice dot com. Don't just offset your carbon footprint. Build a brighter future. Speaking of a bright future, Jordan, you have a bright future in book touring. That's true. The turbo mega Jordan Morris youth group four or five stop book tour is coming to your town if your town is in California. I will be on July 13th. I will be at the OC Book Fair there in beautiful Orange County Tustin specifically. I'm going to be there doing a panel with Megan Fitzmartin, Carol Brown Ahmed,

and our buddy Elliot Canlan. We're going to be talking about making comics. You can find the schedule and all that info at vocbookfair.org. On July 19th, I'm going to be at Wild Sisters in Sacramento with Aaron Karnes from the In Defense of Scott podcast. We love them. We love them. We love the sack. Yes, we love the sack. Our nation's capital. Sure, we don't neglect the sack. Long may she wait. Yes. Okay, so that's at 6.30 at Wild Sisters. Jesse, I'm a little worried about this one.

Okay. I've never been to Sacramento. I don't know if we have a fan base out there. Right. You see these photos on book Twitter, like nobody came to my reading and saw these empty chairs. You know, I think you might have a celebrity visitor at that book reading, as long as he gets in the chopper. Yeah, that's right.

Former California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger. Arnold poppin' by? Yeah, I think so. Get in the chopper and bring me to Sacramento to go to Jordan's reading. I love to hear about the process of creating graphic novels. I had a child with my maid.

But people like me again now. Colonel, don't just start saying, I have a video where you can see I have tiny horse in the house. OK, here's what we're doing. It balances out the secret family that lived with my regular family. Everyone forgets when you have horse in the house. Okay, here's what we're doing.

We're going to try... I seem reasonable in the context of the modern Republican Party. I supported early childhood education at least. Yeah, that's true. Okay, so we're a little worried about Wild Sisters, not because you- Because we need those- We need Sacramento to show the fuck up.

So here's what we're doing. Hey, let me say this. Yeah. Davis, that means you too. Yeah, Davis. Don't think you're getting away. Fucking Davis, show the fuck up for Jordan Morris. We're doing it at 6.30, free for everybody.

You can pre-register and pre-buy the book if you want to. I'm going to have Matt throw a link in the show notes for that. But after this one, good old fashioned meetup. We discussed this on Free with Ads where we should go. We looked at Yelp surrounding the bookstore. You considered the capital. The capital. We're like, let's storm the capital. No, there's a lot of nice cocktail bars and craft breweries around there, but we picked

a fucking three-star sports bar named Cheaters. So come to Wild Sisters and we're all going to Cheaters afterwards. I love it. Jordan, can I ask you a question? Yeah. We've already said Sacramento better show up. Yeah. Already said Davis show the fuck up for this.

We've already called out former governor Arnold Schwartz. Yeah. And implicitly called out the man he replaced, former governor, Gray Davis. Yes. I'm going to take this opportunity to say this. If you're on the Sacramento Rivercats, I want you at

Jordan's reading. Thank you. This means you Marco Luciano. This is a minor league baseball team? Yeah. Cool. Yeah. Oh yeah, tons of those guys. Yeah. Those guys will fill out the seats. Okay. And I got a couple more coming up, but I will

also shout out Comic Con on July 26th. I'll be doing a panel with a bunch of cool folks called Using Fantasy in Graphic Novels to Understand the Real World. And that is Friday at 1pm. So I'd love to see some folks in the audience. And I'll be there doing some other stuff, other panels and signings. But come on out to that panel. This all sounds pretty fucking good to me, Jordan. It's gonna be fucking fun.

And you know what? I don't care where you live. It's your job to order yourself a copy of Youth Group. Yes, that's right. How long have you been listening to these fucking bullshit podcasts? Jordan actually poured his heart into an actual work of art Sure, and you can't get up off $18 or whatever to order yourself one. I'm proud of it Fucking support Jordans art Jordans make an art. Thank you. You'll like it too. It'll be fun. I'm excited about it

Thank you. I'm excited too. It's called a youth group Jordan I'm also nervous because it's a very personal work and I'm afraid of people reject it. They're rejecting me No, we have nobody's gonna reject you. Nobody listens to this show. They've had their opportunity. That's right, yes. They can get up off their butts and order a graphic novel.

Thank you. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan and Jesse Go. La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la It's Jordan, Jesse, go. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy detective. And I'm Aisha Harris against the ninja. That is what I am. Oh.

Not a fan. Standing up. Finally, somebody's standing up these sneaky fucks. Sorry. somebody standing up these sneaky fucks. Sorry, this is an inside reference to a very obscure movie that I absolutely love. So anyway, yeah. What is it? Sorry, Aisha, we're going to need to know what the movie is.

You've probably heard of it. Miami Connection? Oh, yeah. Yes, yes. What's Miami Connection? Jesse, Grace is going to make you watch Miami Connection. One of the greatest movies ever created. I have talked about it actually a couple times recently on Pop Culture Happy Hour.

But yes, it is an amazing movie that is best watched while under the influence of whatever is your choice and a large group of friends. Hops infused seltzer in my case. Yes. Get yourself the hoppiest water you can find. Hoppiest mango flavored fancy water you can find, yes. It is a musical action movie funded and starring a karate dojo.

They came up with the money themselves. They all star in it. And there are many musical numbers. Including a song called Against the Ninja. Yes. It is totally insane in a really, really fun way. Yeah, I can't imagine Grace isn't all about it. Can I ask a question? So is the song against the ninja a pro karate song? Yes. In fact, at one point they yell, taekwondo, taekwondo. It's a movie that is very much pro martial arts, but also pro world peace. Like it literally ends with like,

we need to have world peace. After a very long protracted fight between motorcycle riding ninjas and a college band. Aisha, the true gift of martial arts is when not to fight. Yes, yes. This is true, this is true. The true gift of martial arts is when not to fight. Yes, yes. This is true, this is true. And when to play the keytar, apparently. A lot of keytar in this movie.

Jordan, you need the keytar. Have you ever tried to do karate on a piano bench? You gotta be able to get out there and mix it up. You need the mobility. You gotta mix it up. Come on. Hey, Jordan. Yeah. You know how we have this segment called? I read it. Hey, it's the internet. Hey, internet time. Hey, internet time. Hey, internet. Swatch internet time is what it's called. We divide

dot segment dot com each day into 100 parts. On this segment, Aisha, we read something that we found on social media that seemed magical to us. I found one. You can send them in, by the way. If you're on Reddit or elsewhere and you find something truly beautiful, send it into us at jjgoatmaximumfun.org. This one is a post on the truly the most magical subreddit to which I've ever subscribed, r slash AskLos Angeles. From users, at this point, there's only two categories of question on Ask Los Angeles. One is, is blah, blah, blah too dangerous?

And then the other one is, here's some crazy ass shit you're going to want to read on your podcast. So I subscribe for the second one. This is from user Significant Tomato 96. It's marked NSFW, which is unusual. It says, I accidentally took 100 milligrams I accidentally took 100 milligrams of diffenhydramine instead of Advil. I'm not trying to go to sleep. What to do? Okay, it has the flair for any other question. I don't... What's diffenhydramine? We're going to be able to figure this one out from context clues here.

I'm on a girls trip and I meant to take two ibuprofen and I took two sleeping pills instead. We're on the way to a party. My girlfriend tried to help me throw up but I only got a couple globs out. Wow. One with a little food. If I don't throw up, will I be okay? Am I going to be horribly sleepy? I have anxiety and I think I'll be fine. I'm sure I don't need medical attention, but I'd like some reassurance if I can get it. My friends are laughing at me. Update. My friend broke her arm trying to ride a moped and we went to the ER and I asked the nurse, she said I'll be fine.

I'm sorry, wait, so she clearly didn't, did she fall asleep? I, how did she find time to write that? If she was, took two sleeping pills and couldn't get more than a blob or two globs. Yeah, there were a couple globs. I mean a couple glob, that usually means two globs, right? Yeah. Yeah. At least two globs. Yeah. I mean who's counting globs. Two globs. Yeah, there were a couple of globs. I mean, a couple of globs, that usually means two globs, right? Yeah. Yeah. At least two globs. I mean, who's counting globs? Is there any indication why she chose Ask Los Angeles?

I mean, this is probably happening in Los Angeles, but it seems like there should be a r slash medical advice or an r slash over-the-counter medication. I don't know. That is OK. So obviously. This is all happening in Glendale. Update my friend broke around trying to ride a moped. So we went to the ER and I asked the nurse, that is the prestige here.

But the real turn, the real magic here, I think is that she went to R-slash-ask Los Angeles. It's really great. Where you normally go to ask, can I really live in Los Angeles without a car? I'm moving to town. Sure. Yes, yes. I'm going to say she's probably in Venice Beach.

I don't know. Great guess. That's a great guess. Yeah, it's maybe where you're going to find just a moped to ride around. Yeah, Venice Beach, great guess. Can I throw something out here? Hmm. Maybe she's in Hilo, Hawaii.

It's possible. She just figured LA people are with it. Yeah. Maybe it's a time zone thing. She's like, I who will be up. Maybe she's in another time zone. Or maybe she just whatever she took wasn't sleeping pills, but it did make her mind a little hoo-hoo.

And so she's just like, I'm just going to do the first Reddit that comes up. Sure, yeah. That's what happened. Right, yeah. Earlier that day, she was comparing the Zanku chicken sides with people. Anyway, this is the kind of magic

that we're looking for for our segment, the internet question mark. I read it. So, email it to us at jjgoatmaximumfun.org when you find it. And you know what? I think successfully riding a moped would be a great example of, do you think it was a moped? Don't mopeds, don't you have to ride? Don't you have to turn the pedals on a moped? Isn't that what a moped is? Yeah, I'll be honest, I can't picture exactly. I kind of sort of know it's like a little teeny motorcycle, but I don't know exactly what one is. The one time I rode a moped, I was in Hawaii actually, funny enough, and accidentally wound up on the highway, which you're not supposed to do. Luckily, the next exit was very close, but it was a little scary.

But I don't recall, there's no, you're not like pedaling, you have to press the gas. Something really incredible happened to me the other day when I was driving home from work. I was driving northbound on the 110 freeway, beautiful Araseco Parkway. Hadn't quite hit the parkway portion of the freeway though. I was right there, I had just passed Dodger Stadium, was headed towards the greater Highland Park area where I live here in Los Angeles. And this is a

heavy duty freeway. This is a serious freeway. It's bound on the sides. You can't, you know, there's mountains. It's like cut into a mountain. It's like five lanes wide. One of them is going to Five North, the freeway that goes, you know, to San Francisco and beyond, right? Big serious freeway. I'm driving along, I look over, there's a guy riding an electric scooter in the right-hand lane. When I say an electric scooter, like, I want to emphasize here, I'm not even talking about like a Vespa type, like, I'm just talking about a straight up like a fucking lime scooter. Just with a backpack on, no helmet.

Did he look terrified? This dude looked chill as fuck. Nalgene bottle hanging off the backpack. This dude, he looked like I'm driving home from work. My colleague, Kevin Ferguson, the senior producer of Bullseye, we had both left an interview, and he lives near me. so we were both on the freeway at the same time. He texted me, holy shit, man on scooter on 110. Wow.

And I was like, I just passed him. Racing a guy on rollerblades. This guy was so fucking chill about it. He didn't look concerned at all. Again, he wasn't even wearing a bicycle helmet. Mm. God. Unbelievable. He was clean. This wasn't an insane person. At least apparently. He maybe had just gone insane. Like, just snapped that afternoon.

Yeah, I think that's possible. This could be a falling down type situation only with foolish vehicle decisions rather than violence. Yeah. Jesse, that sounds like kind of a momentous occasion. Yeah, if something momentous happens to you, give us a call. 206-984-4-FUN is the telephone number or just send us a voice memo at jjgo at maximum fun dot org. An example of a momentous occasion? Well, great, great news for you. If you want one, Matt's got one queued up like this. Here it goes. Hey, Jordan. Hey, Jesse. Hey, Matt and guests. This is David from Chicago. I am currently at the Burbank airport about to head home after spending 10 days in Pasadena. So thank you for all the recommendations. I just went through security and a guy in front of me was stopped and pulled aside because he had a large red suitcase full

of small red, it looked like you know mini computers or something, but as it turned out they were all etch-a-sketchers because as he explained he is the world's fastest etch-a-sketch artist and is the world's fastest etch sketch artist, and this happens all the time in security. He has pulled over for his suitcase full of etch sketches. Thank you guys. Love the show. Fucking Burbank Airport. Yeah, if you learn anything from listening to Jordan Jesse go about Southern California,

and you think it's going to be something about Pine Burger or the Verdugo Aquatic Center or the La Brea Tar Pits or something, no, no, no, no, no. Listen to me now. Listen to me. A man who's headed to the Burbank Bob Hope Hollywood Airport tomorrow. This is the best airport in Southern California. It's not even close. They redid the Long Beach Airport. It got a lot nicer. You can fly JetBlue out of there now, but it doesn't matter. You want to go to the Burbank Airport.

You want to see the mannequin with Amelia Earhart style clothing on. You wanna eat at restaurants that Guy Fieri endorses. Very small Guy Fieri restaurants. The Burbank airport experience, you're gonna breeze through security. There's gonna be a man there with a red bag full of Etch A Sketch's. I wonder why an Etch-A-Sketch champion needs multiple,

do you think he just calls them sketches? Do you think he shortens it? Oh, that's a good question. Where's my sketches, he says. Is it like guitars where they're tuned differently? Or, like is there- He has a 12 string etch a sketch? Yeah and then like an acoustic etch sketch you know if you just want to like if you just want to like chill out I guess are there different models too

that's what I'm wondering I guess I know the classic red etch a sketch but are there you know have they tried to reinvent it over the years and is that what this guy has? He has like, oh, well, this is... Like, is there a totally radical one? Right, yeah. Was there one that came out in 1996, which was like, Sketch Extreme or something like that, and the knobs have a different gauge, and like, that's why he's into them.

I don't know. Maybe he has them custom made. Yeah, that could be. And he has like, maybe there's one that's like, Toy Story themed, and it's like Woody and Buzz are sitting in the corner, and then there's's one that's like toy story being and it's like what is the quarter and there's another one that's like i don't know that would be cute yeah you know what i read he does. I bet he puts like pine tar on the knobs. Yeah for spider attack i bet he has one with a minion on it in And the minion is saying, I can't do adulting today. I think the reason I got caught up on that question as well, Jordan, the question of why you would have multiple Etch A Sketches. And my thought on this matter is this guy Etch A

Sketches so fast is the world's fastest Etch A Sketch-er. By the way, 100% sure he tours with the Micro Machines guy, but that's a side point. This guy Etch A Sketch is so fast. That if he just went on to the next art, you would never get a chance to appreciate the first art. Right. Yeah, that's that's a great point. So he's got to whip it out, the Etch A Sketch.

And then bam. Birth of man. Exactly. Bam. World's fastest Etch A Sketch artist. Water lilies. Bam. World's fastest Etch A Sketch guy.

I want us to take a look at what kind of, what kind of, he's called the amazing etch man, which I'm going to be honest with you. Sure. Mr. Etch. That's pretty good. Yeah, I would have gone Dr. Sketchy. I would have gone Triple Etch. The knobs of Xander Cage.

I'm not your dad's fast etch-a-sketch doer. Etch-a-sketch man says he has built the American dream off of the 1960s toy. The etch man and etch-you productions owner Christopher Brown tells Fox Business' Kennedy. Oh, wait. This is him doing an interview with MTV's Kennedy? Who is now right wing? Fox Business? Brown, who is known as the world's fastest Etch-A-Sketch artist, took the iconic toy and created a product that allows Etch-a-Sketch users to have only one shot at their drawing. The device will then

permanently save it so they can keep it forever. Maybe that's why he has so many. It seems like a waste though. We actually drain out all the graphic inside the mechanism so I only have one shot to draw on it," he added. Many of my Etch A Sketches now say, let's go Brandon. Oh boy. Oh no.

Oh. All our heroes. I'm taking a look at Google Image Search here. It looks like the Etch Man has... I found his LinkedIn. Okay, hold on. I want to guess if you have a photo. Yeah.

Aisha, let's do a contest. Let's both guess what kind of facial hair he has. Oh God. I guess we're gonna judge someone based on what they look like or what we think they look like. Oh boy, you know what? I've been hoisted by my own card. Okay, what kind of, I'm gonna guess he, You know what? I've been hoisted by my own retard.

OK, what kind of? I'm going to guess he doesn't have facial hair. But maybe he has long hair that he pulls up into a pony, like a bun, like a man bun. That's a great guess. I'm guessing pointy devil beard. Guys, he is clean shaven, but he has a crazy carrot top smile. Long hair and a crazy carrot top smile.

So he does have long hair. Look at that. Okay. I was close. I was close. Honestly, he's pretty handsome. I'm looking at him here. Does he look like a rodent man?

Isn't that the new sexy thing? Yeah. Oh, right. Yeah. Who's the very kyogen is the sexy rodent. I believe it's called a rat boy. Rat boy. Rat boy, rat boy. Is he a rat boy or more of a hawk to a? Jesse, what would you say? He, I want to say he has a partner in crime.

His name again is the Amazing Etch Man. Trying to make etch happen. He has a partner. They both wear what can only be called magician suits. Wait, do they do it together? Are they like Penn and Teller? I don't know. One works the right knob, one works the left knob.

As far as I'm concerned. This should be an Olympic sport. Yeah, kind of, right? You can team up and try to synchronize your etching. So Christoph Brown's partner is named Brian Madden. You guys want to take a guess as to what his nom de sketch is? Oh boy. Victor von Nobbenstein. Wait, what is his name again? His name is Brian Madden. Brian Madden. And that will play into it. I think you're right. Brian... The old Shakenbeak. Yeah, I don't know. Rumpelsketschden. Norbert Goulet.

You guys all have come through with really great guesses. The answer is Brian Etch. You could have used more than that. Do you think Brian Etch works full time for the Etch Man? Or you think this is like Like a pickup hours when you can type situation Sure, yeah, no, I don't think it's a side gig. I don't think the etch man's giving out health insurance But my colleague my aforementioned colleague Kevin has a very talented wife named Kelly and Kelly is a

Long time is for quite some time worked in early childhood education works at it works at a preschool Yeah, and but then also sometimes She just gets paid like three hundred fifty dollars to go to a party and draw caricatures Wow, just like there's just like a guy who calls her and says, I got one for you. Just every other month or so she just goes to a party and does caricatures for 350 bucks. I'd love to have a skill

of any kind. You know, it's kind of interesting when you talk about you're talking about the guy's hours because like, you know, it's it's a halftime thing. Obviously, there's not full time employment in it. But because he's dedicating, you know, it's it's a half time thing. Obviously, there's not full time employment in it. But because he's dedicating, you know, half time to it, you can't get another full time job because they won't let you off to, you know, to do your to do your passions. It's a real edge 22. I mean, he could also be like the world's foremost light bright expert or something for all we know. Sure. He might have another skill.

He has a, that's true. Yeah. Or he could have a beef with the color forms guy. You know, just a few years ago, Christoph Brown had done it all in the arts. He'd worked as a commercial and fine artist, a professional singer and actor, a multimedia writer and director. But little did he know when he picked up a pocket Etch-A-Sketch left behind in a Los Angeles coffee shop that his true destiny would be revealed. I can do this, he exclaimed. No one's saying you can't. Who's telling you you can't do it? You know what? My haters make me strong, Jordan.

Look, I feel like if Jerry Seinfeld could make an entire movie about the making of the pop-tart, we need an entire movie about the making of Etch A Sketch. Wait, can I just? I think we do. Can I say? I would make the movie, but you can't say anything anymore. Comedy's illegal.

Comedy's dead. Well, this cancel culture is stopping the Etch-a-Sketch from being mainstream again. Can I really need to address something here, okay? So I clicked on one of the packages that they offer. The Etch-man makes an etch portrait, then photographs it professionally, then prints it on keepsake cards.

OK? This is something that you can add to the Preserve You event party, or you can book it on its own as the Photo You class portrait. OK? That all makes a ton of sense, I think. Here are the examples. One is portrait of a woman named Jacqueline.

J-A-C, nice picture of a lady. One is love, T and N. Portrait of a couple, love and couple. Again, makes a ton of sense. Third one, cast of Boston Legal. Wow, James Spader and William Shatner on the same etch a sketch yeah yeah I forgot William Shatner was on that yeah yeah well this is great Jesse I need to email him a few of my favorite cast photos from Boston legal can we take a break while I do that and then come back for some more we'll be back in just a

second on Jordan days ago. La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la. City pop to me is like a feeling. City pop is beautiful music. It's music that makes me emotional. There's so many different sounds that fall into the city pop category. It just feels very home to me. We're just about wrapped on our inaugural season of Primer. If you didn't know, Primer is a new podcast that explores music from outside the English-speaking

world. And Vulture called us one of the best podcasts of the year. Our first season covered Japanese city pop, and you just heard a few of our past guests share what the genre means to them. Learn more about the world of city pop and listen to some cool tunes. And if you like what we're doing, you can make a one-time contribution and help us reach our goal to produce a second season about a new genre. Support Primer over at MaximumFun.org slash Primer.

Throughout history, sirens have captured men's attention, enticed men with their feminine wiles and fulfilled men's primal needs. The siren's allure persists- They have not. Unless the primal need is, I need to be smashed on the rocks. Yeah, smash me. Smash me, mommy. Smash me, mommy. The siren's allure persists.

Why do we do this to ourselves? Strand me baby, strand me mom. So yeah, this is my brother, my brother and me from Maximum Fun on Mondays. It's just like that. It's just like to have a more of it. There's more of that. back. It's Jordan Jessi Goh. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart.

Jordan Morris, boy detective. And I'm Aisha Harris, half spice. Okay. If you click, let's say you were on etchu.com. I often am. And you clicked on galleries. What might you expect to find? Um, okay, yeah, just like, so probably like, etch a sketch portraits, portraits of the parties.

Rose from Titanic laid out on the chase lounge. Etch me like one of your French girls. Yes, yes. Yeah, I mean, that's not unreasonable. Matt, you didn't mention what you would expect to find, but I presume that what you would have expected to find is a contact form for fine art galleries that want to buy Etch A Sketches from him. I was going to say that.

It was either that or mostly Etch A Sketch porn and a new type of masturbation practice known as etching. But also the the form to fine arts. Yeah. Right. Yeah. No shake November. No knob November. That it should we go to lunch? I use has a master's degree. She went to graduate school, Jordan. Hey, a degree and a book people can check out right?

That was a great segue. Yes. Thank you. Yes, I do. Recently celebrated its one year anniversary. It's a toddler now, officially, I think. Is that how old toddlers are? I don't know. I don't have kids. But, yeah. Wannabe, Reckonings with the Pop Culture that

shapes me. Just a collection of essays and my musings on everything from the saga, the name that I was given by my parents to how many goddamn sequels and franchises and how we can't let go of characters and they have to be reborn and come back and yada, yada, yada. It's fun. It's personal. I enjoy it. And I also spent way too much time working on that book and ignoring my family to write it. So I'm just glad it's out in the world. One year anniversary, the paper anniversary. Great idea. Maybe you should make a paper edition of your book. Oh, maybe I should. Well, we can see I don't know how many copies it's sold, because I refuse to be told that because I'm an

author and who wants to know that? Listen, I think it's fine that you neglected your family to write a book, a book you can hold, you can touch a family, you cannot. Honestly, honestly, I'm ambivalent about it. It's not because you neglected your family. It's because you neglected something more important than your family, which is taking Dolly Parton down a notch.

We love you, Dolly. He's she's up so many notches, you know, she's got listen, she can afford a notch or two. Look, she she took she took my my gentle ribbing very well and she got rid of the northerners only Bathroom stalls, so that's nice. That's all you can ask for I She has an album that I I really love called my Tennessee Mountain Home, so good beautiful album and On there. There's just a song that I would characterize as full Brian Wilson, which is just a song about the doctor that went around

in her region when she was a kid. By name, it's just about how he was a really good guy. And it's just about how he was a really good guy. I believe his name is Dr. Robert S. Thomas, if I remember correctly. He might be Robert F. Thomas. Maybe, yeah. God, I'd love to be a genius songwriter and just write songs that list people that I like. Didn't DMX do that once? All the women he'd hooked up with? Keisha, Misha.

Oh, Dr. Robert F. Thompson. Yes, yes, Robert F. Thompson. Yes. Hunter S. Thompson too. Hunter S. Thompson. DMX got around. Yeah, and I think that Angie Martinez also taught Dolly Parton how to use the internet. Was that video fake? DMX not knowing how to use a computer. and how to use the internet. Was that video fake? DMX not knowing how to use a computer? Oh, I don't think it was.

I wouldn't be surprised. DMX was a special. He was a special man. He was. Troubled. Troubled, special. Passionate. Passionate.

Ugh! Yeah, very talented. Yeah. Aisha, it's been a joy to have you on the program. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you. We promise not to tell anyone at graduate school that you came on our show. The book... I already told the teaching assistant. Oh no! Wreckers! Aisha's book is called Wannabe Reckonings with the Pop Culture that Shapes Me.

You can also, of course, hear her on Pop Culture Happy Hour, which is truly one of our favorite shows. Jordan, you were just on recently, right? Yeah. I think Aisha and I talked about the most recent Planet of the Apes movie. We had feelings about that movie. We did, yes. I was wondering, I meant to ask if the, I think we were, we thought it was, you know,

maybe on the lower end of mid. Yes. Did the ape stands come for you? No, you know what, if they did, I wasn't listening. I was too busy forgetting that that movie even existed. Yeah. It is the most forgettable technological miracle you will ever see.

Indeed. I'm going to express now, Jordan. I'm moving along the Planet of the Apes path myself. Yeah, that's right. I liked Planet of the Apes 3, and I also liked Planet of the Apes 3 and I also liked Planet of the Apes 4. There it is. Wow.

I'm only halfway through Planet of the Apes 5 though. Yeah. We'll have to check in about that later. Then it's on to Tim Burton. Oh yeah. This will be fun. And I saw it at the Grand Lake, the beautiful Grand Lake Theater in Oakland, California actually.

Great theater. Great theater. Great theater to see Tim Burton's reimagining. You can Miami Connection in between those. Oh, yes. Please do. Gracie does not like movies with fighting in them. She likes like fonts of blood. Well, there's plenty of that too. She made me watch Bride of Chucky. Oh, yeah? Bride of Chucky. Oh yeah? With Jennifer Tilly? Yeah. Yeah Jennifer Tilly and Catherine Heigl. Oh yeah I forgot she's in that. Yes, yes. Yeah she does a good job. John Waters maybe? John Waters pop up in that one? I don't remember seeing John Waters in that one. He's

in a couple of them anyway. I think we got inspired because apparently the guy who wrote, one guy wrote all of them, he's gay and he says Chuckie is queer. So that's fun. That tracks from what I remember. I was browsing around on the old Peacock app the other day and they have a like pride section. Was Chuckie there? Chuckie was there. It's Chuckie and Cher.

Can we get Paula Pell in there? Come on. Alan Cumming was there too. It's Alan Cumming, Cher and Chuckie. Yeah. Dream Blunt Rotation. I got, yeah. Alan Cumming actually, something really cool about Alan Cumming is that he has fucked both

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