Jordan, Jesse, GO! - Tekken Stage Waffle House, with Cody Ziglar

Episode Date: September 5, 2024

This week, we welcome comic and tv writer Cody Ziglar (Futurama, She-Hulk, Miles Morales: Spider-Man, Deadpool, Goobers) to chat about the joys of convention culture, we compare Waffle House versus Cook Out versus Bojangles, and so much more!Pre-order Cody's original comic, Goobers.Visit bit.ly/run4mar to help Caitlin raise money while running a half-marathon for children’s Alzheimer’s disease.Follow the podcast on Instagram and send us your dank memes!Jordan Morris is doing a book tour for Youth Group! Come see Jordan at Rose City Comic Con, September 6th - 8th!Come see Judge John Hodgman: Road Court  live in a town near you! Jesse and John will be all over the country so don't miss your change to see them. Check the events page to find out where!Follow brand new producer, Steven Ray Morris, on Instagram.

Give a little time for the child within you, don't be afraid to be young and free. Undo the locks and throw away the keys and take off your shoes and socks and run you. It's Jordan Jesse Goh, I am Jesse Thorn, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris Boy, Detective. Coming to me live from San Jose, California. That's right. The home of the San Jose Sharks and the Tech Museum of Innovation. Ah, thank you. Those's right. The home of the San Jose sharks in the Tech Museum of Innovation. Ah, thank you. Those are real. I was going to say the city that fucks.

That is what it's known as. Have you been to this place? It fucks. No. San Jose is lovely. And I'm having a very fun time at GalaxyCon. What's GalaxyCon? This is just a visit this are the how different are the different cons Jordan? Jesse this is a great question and one I am prepared to speak on Galaxy con it is a it's a like family of cons. There's a I think a Raleigh one I think there's like an Atlanta one I'm sure our guests will have some stuff to say about there's a shitty uncle that's been in and out of jail. Yeah.

Yeah, he just needs to move some money around and then he'll pay you back. And this is the first year they've done San Jose and it is my first time tabling at an artist's alley. I've done stuff at cons before. I've done signings at other people's booths and like done panels for stuff I've worked on. But it's my first time just like sitting with my little books on my little folding chair and trying to get people to buy them in artists alley, which is like where you know independent crafts people

sell their wares to to the congoers of the world. Okay, so I saw, I'll tell you what I'm excited about, Jordan. I saw pictures of you on Instagram. And you have your own roll-up travel banner. I got a roll-up travel banner, yeah. You gotta have one, because people are just gonna be like, what's this, who's this?

So it's really nice. It folds up into a little metal case. It has its own sack and I just I get my little table that I, you know, paid a couple hundred bucks for. I unroll my banner. I set out my books and then you can then sell them to the book hungry public. I will say, you know, Artist Alley kind of a catch-all, right? Like there's a lot of different things. It's not just books. And I don't know if I had the best placement for what I was selling, which is graphic novels and comics.

I was in an area where it seems like the main attraction was, I don't know if I'm going to get the terminology right here, but I'm just going to take a stab at it based on what I believe it to get the terminology right here, but I'm just going to take a stab at it based on what I believe it to be. So I think all around me, people were selling mainly drawings of big titty anime girls. Yeah, sure. And again, I don't know if I'm getting the terminology right or if that's the preferred way to put that. So it's me with my graphic novels. Okay, I have a question.

My presumption- About how big the titties are? Tell me about these gazangas. Oh man, ba-ba-boom! I saw them, Jesse, and my head turned into a wolf head. Okay, here's my question. My presumption is that none of the people drawing the big titty anime girls is like the creator or artist behind a famous big titty anime. Is that true?

Yeah, I think these are, yeah, these are up and coming artists. Is this like a freelance thing? Is this like, do they? Here's what I'm imagining. Tell me how far off base I am. I've never been to one of these. You sit down. It's anime con though, right? You saw. I did. That's true. That's a good point. But I didn't see there.

There wasn't. If there was an artist alley, I missed it. OK. I found some other stuff, including the weird back alley of the convention center, where just some confused people from Japan were sitting. Just people who's like prefecture, they're like tourism board had paid $10,000 to send them all there, so that they could be sat like basically inside the bathroom. Okay. But anyway, here's my question. I'm picturing you sit down, you give somebody $40? That seem right? Yeah, I think that seems right. Again, I didn't price them and I'm not

here to like kink shame. I'm not here to go like, I would never buy, but I didn't. I didn't price any of these. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And so you give, you give the $40. I'm more of a big booty anime girl guy. Sure. Sure. You give the $40. The artist asks your hobbies, what school you go to, and if you have a girlfriend. I think what you're thinking of is a boardwalk characterist. Oh, that is what I'm thinking of a bar mitzvah. Not a con, a bar mitzvah is what I'm thinking of. A bar mitzvah. Should we introduce our guest because I feel like our guest has, almost certainly has some insight into this situation. I'm not gonna characterize the cultural cohort they represent, but it may be one familiar with the world of cons. Our guest on the program is, among many other things, a comic book creator himself, as well as most recently a writer on

the brand new season of Futurama, Cody Ziegler. Hi, Cody. How are you? Thanks for having me. I'm so glad you tagged me in because I didn't remember how I was able to talk recently a writer on the brand new season of Futurama, Cody Ziegler. Hi Cody, how are you? Thanks for having me. I'm so glad you tagged me in because I wasn't, I don't remember how I was able to talk in the intro or not from the last time I did it. So I just wanted to remain respectful and quiet while Jordan eloquently described the hentai busty anime cottage industry that supports a lot of cons. Yeah. And thank you for respecting our sacred space. Anytime.

My pleasure. That's like the superstructure that undergirds the con economy. Yeah, it is. I also only really started doing cons within the last two years, having not gone to one since probably I was like 13 or 14 maybe. So being on like the ground floor, you do start to notice like what's, like what the genre or what the clicks are of like the con people there. They're like, the people there that are like the artist alley is like, as sort of George was saying, it's not just like comic, but people there are like

people selling like katatas. There's people selling like old dusty like vintage toys, which is like where I gravitate to honestly, there's like, and I say this like with love and respect, like the spot pellets, which is what I really sort of enjoy because I feel like, I truly feel like comic book conventions are like the sort of last place, at least in the American sense, like a mass sense where like, you can see people actually go up and support artists, like actually engage with art in a way that it is one to one. So like, if you're a person that wants to see, I don't know, a big busty anime girl riding a giant mech suit nude with like a thousand tentacles, like you can do that.

And like, there's no shame there. Like it's, it's like, they like, this is the place that you need to come to do this. Like we want you to come here and feel safe to do that. And I feel like it's the only place that I can think of where you can go and support artists one-to-one. It seems like a very dying thing out here. I feel like a lot of art that we ingest is like through Spotify, it's through like random Instagram ads. It's like someone that I follow on Twitter, like watching a TV show, but being able to go to an art and be like, hey, can I give you 25 bucks for you to draw a giant big breasted or big bootied as Jordan would like character and they'd be like, yes, absolutely. How long would you like this? Like, I think that's a space that like I respect

and I do like that it exists in like multiple cities throughout the country every day. Like there's always a con going on. Yeah. I pictured a guy that looks like Colombo. One more thing. Well, two more things. And holding a little, you know the kind of notebook that a private detective might hold with a spiral ring at the top, but it's pretty small one handed and he like licks his finger and turns to the next page as he's listing the different stuff he wants in the smart thing.

He's like, and she likes soccer and a sword that's bigger than her and her sword is bigger than her. That's complimentary. You get that on the house. That's free with every drawing. That's a great deal. At Anime Expo where I went to, there was a lot of horniness for sale, but it was almost all in figurine form. So there were huge volumes of figurines with gargantuan jugs. Yeah.

Just monumental jugs. But was this your first time at a con like that? I had been to Comic Con a couple of times, but- Okay. And I've been to, I went to many baseball card shows as a child. Yeah. But yeah, like this sort of thing, it was the first time. And it seemed to me like if you were the creator of. A line of big titty anime figurines.

Mm hmm. Like it's an art endeavor, like an art challenge, but it's also an engineering challenge Just because they have to stay vertical. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They may be unbalanced. Cody you mentioned that if you were at one of these, the place you would gravitate to

would be the dusty toy zone. You give me a bent up, sorry I didn't mean to cut you off. No, I was going to ask what is your ideal find in one of those places? Every time I go to a con, I try to buy two things. One, I try to support just to get a random artist there so if it's like a smaller table, like they're not getting a lot of foot traffic or like an independent artist, like I'll just like, I want to spend at least a hundred bucks at a con from like an independent one-on-one type of thing. Because I know like a Marvel artist or like a DC artist or like an image artist, they're going to get people coming through.

So like, I just like doing that off the jump. But if it comes like stuff personally for myself, like if I can find like a Gundam, like I want to get that. If it's like a cool, weird, like you know those like 90s like Star Wars toys, Star Wars toys that were like sort of weird and bulky and like, or like an old like aliens like when they when they would just like randomly make toys for aliens in like 93 even though the movie had been out for like six years at that point. Yeah, like those type of like franchisable toys like I really enjoy because the box always

smells like it was in a been in a basement or an attic for like the past 30 years and the people selling it are just, they either are super enthusiastic about it or they're like, I'm just trying to get this shit. I got to go to Phoenix next and tomorrow. Just like not have a back and forth. They're like, I love that sort of surly flea market energy that they bring to it. Because you don't mean it because again, like it seems like I've never worked as a carnie or worked around carnies, but it seems like carnie adjacent. Like it seems like this is the same energy that they bring that I really, really respect. I love the idea of like, this costs $10. I don't feel like breaking a 20 or whatever, just give me this money and get away from

me. Like I love that energy so much. Yeah. As a flea market habitué, I fucking love, I fucking love, like truly sincerely love the vibes of somebody who just washed out of life but is bright and persistent. And so, they just like fucking, they just found a pile of something, figured out which ones of them were worth 10 bucks more, and then fucking went to the flea market and then did that progressively for 40 years until they know everything about everything. Yeah. Like I loved the flea market version of that for like the record guy who would just have

like a little like, you know know 10 by 6 like corner cramped but he had every record you could ever think of and the guy doesn't, the guy that I went to didn't even seem like he actually liked music, he just found this way to make money like he seemed so begrudging when you asked him, hey do you have like leads up in fours? Like I don't know, go look in the hells. I love the energy that these people bring to that sector of like this is what I do for a living. Like I am begrudgingly here, just come get the thing, even though I am an expert at this. The part that was most appealing to me about what you described, Cody, is I love the idea of things in a pile.

I don't like the idea of buying toys that are in a clear plastic presentation box and inside their packaging, inside that and all that kind of thing. I understand why people want that. It is not what I want. What I want is some of them are missing a leg and they cost $5. Like that is immensely appealing to me. Freezer bag full of Hot Wheels. Yeah, 100%. When I was a kid, my dad's best friend, Ed, lived in Berkeley. My dad worked

for him for a while. We would take the BART train from San Francisco to Berkeley, get off at Rock Ridge Bart in Oakland and somewhere near there, there was a used toy store. And this was like, my dad at this point in our lives, completely fucking broke, like totally broke. So I would get to choose a fucking He-Man out of the used toy store. Like we couldn't go to, you know, Target or whatever, but fucking the used toy store, I could get me a Moss Man. Yeah. Maybe a Mechaneck if you're lucky. Exactly. No card, no only one of its three weapons,

but like $3 out the door. Yes. That's what I'm looking for. That's so funny you mentioned that because I feel like that's sort of what I'm chasing when I'm at a con now is that like, like I usually, I like, I do like them in boxes. Like that's my crotch. Like I like, it doesn't have to be pristine, but like I like them in boxes.

But like, I will find myself like, you know, going through like the toy vendors or the sort of vintage figure vendors and like find the one that like I could never find as a kid or like I couldn't afford as a kid and be like, oh yeah, I'll spend 35 bucks on this like, I don't know, GI Joe or transformer that, you know, I haven't thought about since I was like 16 and like, you know, I swipe a little business card and then I'm sort of on my way, but like it does scratch a niche.

And I think, I think because most people our age are living in this sort of like stage of arrested development where like we're perpetual children in a sense. So like it scratches that itch as well. But I do find like, and also curious to get your opinion Jordan, but like I do find like the con culture in a sense feels like, I don't know, it feels like working on like a music tour or something where like you sort of or something where you sort of get used to what the day is going to be and every interaction is sort of unique and also it's sort of similar

in a way but also I enjoy watching the people come in and build up the con and breaking it down or you're in the green room which is just a bunch of like, usually just a bunch of curtains put up and you're just eating. green room which is just like a bunch of like, usually like just a bunch of like curtains put up and like you're just eating, you know. Someone set up cones and some folding tables throughout some granola bars. Yeah, like you're there with like, yeah, you're the guy who was like, you know, in like Spider-Man, some Spider-Man cartoon from like the odds or whatever and like, oh, this is just like, oh, this is like, I like what the scene is.

Like, I enjoy that for some reason. Like, it's really, really fun to like get a peek behind the curtains, literally. What's a top celeb at GalaxyCon? Well, I'll shout out some long lines for past Jordan, Jesse, Go! guests, Janet Varney and Dana Snyder, two long lines at those booths.

But, oh, had a of people come up to me and tell me how excited they were to have met Michael Dorn. Michael Dorn was a big one. Oh, yeah. I don't think I know who Michael Dorn is. TNG? Worf, right? He was the Worf.

Oh, he's Worf. Yeah. OK, I know who Worf is. It's the Ridgehead guy. That's the one. Very militaristic, but honorable. Sure. Okay. I know who Worf is. It's the Ridgehead guy. That's the one. Very militaristic, but honorable. Sure. Yes.

Well, that's the Klingon way, Jesse. Yeah. I will say that they get a lot of good gets for cons. Especially, I feel like whatever the equation is, the smaller the region, the better the celebrity is for some reason. Like you'll get like, you know, like I'm going to one in September and it's like Charlie Cox and like any Star Wars person, like people from Game of Thrones, people from like the House of Dragons, I guess is the version of that. And you're like, wow, you're coming to Cincinnati. Like this is like, this like, I can see like if you lived here, like

this is like exciting. Like how often do you get to see like, you know, celebrities or whatever. Like we, I think when we live in LA, we're like, we're used to being like, oh, this fucking bin af like that, like the Irwans like get out of the way. Out of my way, Charlie Cox. Yeah, out of the way. Trying to get a Zankoo chicken. Yeah, I'm trying to get my falafel buddy got it. But yeah, so so so some some folks like that. So I will say that I think this con had kind of a younger crowd because there was a lot of anime, which I think the younger folks like.

And Jesse, I thought of your trip to anime con and just like how delightful it is to not know who any of the guys are that people are dressed up as. Yeah, it's a really magical experience if you just imagine that people have the most extraordinarily creative outfits sure They've made all this up, but I will say so today at the con was Shatner was there So there were a lot of just fucking old-school dudes and Star Trek outfits and I loved wait William Shatner was there. Yeah. He goes to all of them. What are you doing at the con, William Shatner? You're 90 years old.

You have the price line money. Just relax. Just relax in your money pit. Yeah. Are tech war paperbacks still selling? Yeah, that's what bought us second house. still selling? Yeah, that's what bought a second house. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what, what, you know, why why Shatner at 90 is still, you know, flying around to do these things. But I mean, I people, you're, I ball. So why not? Why not just fucking walk out there and have people shriek for you and make however much money you make, which is probably a lot and not really have to do anything other than tell some stories about Leonard Nimoy, you know?

Yeah. I mean, look, if someone was like, hey, we're going to give you like a first class flight and a ton of like money and you get to keep whatever you make from like signing stuff, I was like, yeah, what else do I want to do? Like I'll fly out to like a city that like I like or haven't been to before. Like that's, that's what I do now. It's like you'll fly me to Canada to like talk to people who are passionate about a thing that I also do. Like yeah, of course. What else? I would absolutely do that.

Hell yeah. Ben Harrison, our friend and past guest on Jordan Jesse Goh, host of The Greatest Generation, goes to Star Trek cons for Greatest Gen. And he was telling me that a big thing that happens at these cons is there'll be a panel with like a major celebrity from the world of the thing of the con. A Janet Varney voice of Korra from the legend of Korra. I know all about that. from The Legend of Korra. I know all about that. So, it will be a Michael Dorn or it will be Patrick Stewart or any of the many other actors that have been on Star Trek that I'm struggling to name right now. I've watched a fair amount of Star Trek. They'll be there, but they've already talked about Star Trek enough. They don't want it.

So they're just telling stories about like when they were on an episode of Mannix. Well, everyone just sits there like, huh? Well. I have heard that. I haven't had the privilege of seeing it in person because I always take it sounds so funny. Was it Peter Weller? Was he Robocop? Yeah. I feel like he famously will like, I have been answering questions about Robocop for like 40 years now.

I'm not going to talk about Robocop. I'm going to talk about this movie I did, I directed like 10 years ago. He will purposely not talk about RoboCop, which I think is some of the funniest things you could possibly do. Like, honestly, if I was William Shattern, that's what I would do. It's like, I'm not going to talk about this. I'm going to talk about, I'm going to talk about fucking Priceline. I'm going to talk about whatever that 90s. Shattern's like, we all know what you're here to talk about.

Airplane 2. I'm pretty good in it. Wow, Jordan Morris. That's right. I'm here to talk about the five lines I had in Scandal. Although, maybe in a weird way, that would be what people would come out to see. Yeah, I think 1000% based on that. Hi, I have a question for Jordan Morris.

I'm one of his mom's friends. Yes, I remember you were very excited when I was on that and called my mom Gale. He's going to be famous. I saw him. I saw him on Scandal. That was a big, big time for my mom and her friends when I had five lines on Scandal. I've never gotten any lines. I've been lucky to be on screen, but I had a cameo. I use the word cameo so loosely. Cameo only because there's a scene in the last episode of Shield where she meets the

writers to complain to us. Our showrunner very graciously let me play myself in the show but like and like I have maybe two seconds on like not even that much but like I wouldn't know when that happened like I my mom was inundated with like oh my god I saw Cody on the thing and I can't believe he's gonna he's a superhero he was like are you a superhero like I can't describe how much I am not that I am so far away MCU I am I am in the MCU as myself yeah scared shitless like I am not that I am so far away MCU I am in the MCU as myself yeah scared shitless like I am NOT I'm not gonna be suiting up with Tony anytime soon you know what I'm saying I don't know how yeah what if all the

Avengers get kidnapped by oh I don't know let's say Galactus and then TV writers from that one episode of She-Hulk. Yeah, yeah, they should have bust into a con in Cincinnati and grab me to save the day. I'm loving it. I don't know. His only weakness is big titty anime figures. We got you. Listen, this will be fine until they can finish that Blade movie. My mom will like, like, for example, we've recently started posting video of Bulls Eye

interviews, my public radio show. By the way, everyone go find Bulls Eye on YouTube and smash those like and subscribe buttons. But like we posted this interview that I did with Common and Pete Rock the other day. And my mom found out about it and started sending it to her friends and then copying and pasting their feedback and sending it back to me as though they had like organically found it. But they're all just like, well, he's come a long way since he was 12. Does he still shit in his pants?

Does he still shit in his pants? My mom also doesn't, I don't know if your mom attributes quotes. My mom figured out in 1998 or something how to copy and paste, but at no point did she figure out that she should indicate what she's copying and pasting from. So when she sends me something that has proper capitalization and punctuation, I'm like, hmm, let's play the game. What person that's not my mom is this copy and pasted from? Cody, you also had a cameo in Futurama. You've been writer Cody Ziegler in two

of the things you've worked on. Yeah, it's funny enough you bring it up. Yes, I have been typecast as myself as a writer in two separate shows I'm sure I'm the only one speaking I don't think I'm crazy saying this on this show with this People on the mic is that like we probably grew up loving the Simpsons I think that's a safe thing to say. B minus. And like I would always Hahaha

Jesse's looking to start some shit in the comments Yeah, but I would always some shit in the comments. Yeah. But I would always love it in The Simpsons when they would, for some reason, they would always, they would always go to, like, writers for some reason. They'd always make fun of, like, Yale writers or Harvard writers, whatever. And like, I always love it when they would, in future on when they would have, like, the writers in the show, whatever. But anyway, they were like, hey, there's a bit where we're going to go to the

writers room and we're talking about how much we aren't good and how much, how bad we are writers. Like, yes, please, I would love to do that. And they like, I didn't think they were going to let us get like our characters done, but they like one day they're like, hey, send us pictures of yourself. I was like, this seems weird, but sure, why not? And couple of weeks later, we get some like, are like, like little Futurama avatar things. And I was like, this is like truly a dream come true. Like I've always wanted to have like a Simpsonized Futurama version, I's version of myself. So like I have, I'm not in my office right now, but I have like

a little framed like character design art of like me next to Fry. I was like, oh, this is like a dream come true. Like this is truly exactly everything I could ever ask for. Oh, what a dream. I'm actually in my office and I'm sitting with my character art of my character from Archer, but he's much handsomer than I am, not bald and blonde. So, yeah. I definitely, when you popped up in both She-Hulk and Futurama, I was the like Leonardo DiCaprio pointing at the TV meme.

Like, ah, there he is! Very fun. Yeah, like it's fun. I've been lucky to work on shows that I actually, for half the shows I did watch before, I worked with him and I've somehow been able to weasel my way onto being on screen for some of those shows. I don't know how, but I hope it keeps running. Whatever my next job is, if you need someone to stand stoically in the background and not

say anything, I'm your guy. Ooh, stoically, huh? That's your move? Yeah, stoically, yeah. That's my move. Even across my arms, I was like, hmm, I got it. People at home can't see it, but I just had a really immaculate arm cross. Yeah, it was really nice.

Yeah, we're on the zoom. And both Jordan and Jesse were awed at the sheer stoicness of it. Yeah, stoicism is big these days and you're great at it. You want to, should we take a little break and Jesse and I can practice our arm crossing and then we can come back for a little bit more? We'll be back in just a second on Jordan and Jesse Go. It's Jordan Jesse Goh. I'm Jesse Thorn, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, Boy Detective.

Hey Jordan, you know about the Jumbotron? You know how that works? Refresh my memory. I always forget things. Okay, great. The Jumbotron is our way for listeners to share their messages with our listeners. So if you're a listener to Jordan Jesse Goh, you can get up on the jumbotron by going to maximumfund.org slash jumbotron For a very nominal fee. It's a hundred bucks for a personal announcement 200 bucks for something with any commercial element

You want us to plug something you can get on Jordan Jesse go This is only for Jordan Jesse go listeners This is not something we offer to like this is not something we offer when we're selling ads or anything like that But we will we will sorry Microsoft. Yeah, sorry Micro Center Sorry egghead software Sorry Babbage's good one. Sorry electronics Anyway maximum fun dot org Slash Jumbotron is where you go to sign up.

You want to wish somebody happy birthday, happy anniversary. Just anything you put up on the scoreboard at the ballpark will be forever ensconced in a Jordan Jesse Goh. It's just a fun way to support the show and share your message with the world. I also want to mention Jordan. We are both out in the world for Jordan and Jesse Goh listeners to meet and interact with as artists and performers.

I am headed out on tour literally like as we speak. I am packing bags for the Judge John Hodgman Road Court Tour, which is kicking off September 11th in New York City. Our first leg is New York City, off September 11th in New York City. Our first leg is New York City, then the 13th in Philadelphia, then the 14th in Washington, D.C. with our friend Linda Holmes, then the 15th in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and then shortly thereafter, we're going to Ann Arbor, Madison, St. Paul, and beyond. All that information is at maximumfun.org slash events.

If you're just a Jordan Jesse Goh listener, you've never heard Judge John Hodgman in your life, you will have a fun time at this show. This is a great show. They're a blast. I've seen Judge John Hodgman live a few different times and I always have a great time. I'm always grateful when you show up, Jordan. Very sincerely. I'm going for selfish reasons because I like to have fun. Okay, well anyway, maximumfun.org. Neither of us are capable of generating mouth sounds

that seem sincere, but we are both being sincere right now. I am serious that it is fun and funny and you will laugh and have a wonderful night. Yeah, maximumfun.org slash events is the place to find all those listings. I know, Jordan, you're headed out to do a little bit more conning. Yeah. If you're in the Baltimore area, I'll be at Baltimore Comic Con. Their quote on their website is America's greatest comic book convention. Are you listening, Marlo Stanfield?

What about you, Prop Joe? John Waters. Oh God, I hope John Waters comes. I bet Dan Deacon will stop by. Oh, that'd be great. I would love to see Dan Deacon. Dan Deacon, if you're out there, come to see me at Baltimore Comic Con. It's September 20th through the 22nd, so if you're going to Baltimore Comic Con, come find me in Artist Alley. I'm going to be selling books, signing books,

having a great time. So I would love to see some Max Fun folks there. Bring Jordan some softshell crabs. That's what my mom always talks about when she talks about Baltimore softshell. Yes, smuggle in crabs. That's what my mom always talks about when she talks about Baltimore soft shell. Yes, smuggle in crabs. Bring me warm crabs from underneath your shirt. Yeah, underpants crabs. Yeah, tote bag crabs maybe. However you can smuggle in a crab, I wanna eat it.

Yeah, that's in Baltimore, Maryland. I hope we'll see everybody out there. And of course, follow us on social media. The new Instagram is going completely bonkers. Wild memes. Judge John Hodgman pod. The memes are absolutely nutso. You can either post them on Reddit,

maximumfun.reddit.com, or just share them with at Jordan Jessie Go pod. You just post them on your own Instagram, hashtag them JJGo. The memes are so, so dank. Did you see the meme that a listener made of the the like Sweaty space superhero guy who's trying to pick between pressing two buttons. Oh, no, I like that guy that guy is Is trying to decide on what San Francisco reference Jesse should make ah and I believe it is burritos or itsits Or it's that's what aits. What a perfect meme.

Very very good. What a perfect meme. I mean these are great memes. These are great memes. We're very memeable. Follow us on Instagram at ins- young people love us! Of course! They can't get enough!

Instagram and- We are mother and brat. Jordan and Jesse go- I am mother. And brat. I am mother. He is brat. And you love us cause we're young. I am mother. I am mother. He is Pratt.

And you love us because we're young. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan Jesse Goh. It's Jordan Jesse Goh. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy detective. Cody Ziegler, stoic sweetheart. It's true. It's true. Hey, guess what guys? What? When something momentous happens to one of our listeners, we ask them to call us at 206-984-4FUN or just to send us a voice memo at jjgoatmaximumfun.org. What we do with those is we use them for a segment called momentous occasions. Now, we've

been going on social media saying, please call in momentous occasions, because I think people forgot that they're supposed to do that when that happens. But luckily for us, one of those people did do that. And we have this wonderful momentous occasion now. Momentous occasion, guys. Hey, Jesse. Hey, Jordan. This is Carl.

I'm on the freeway in what city is this? Linwood on the 105 freeway. And I'm pulling up and and car next to me. The guy is sniffing his shoe. Sniffing his shoe in traffic. Wonderful. Have a great day. Bye guys. First of all, Carl, call everyone. The pure joy that Carl has. I want that. I'm chasing that.

That's why I'm buying all these toys. I want that joy that he had. You just want to laugh like Carl watching a shoe sniffer on the freeway. Man, I was at the dog park this morning. I was talking to a guy that had a very nice dog. He was there with his wife. His wife was totally ordinary, very nice lady. was totally ordinary, very nice lady. But the guy talked like this. Hey! And I was like, this is awesome! This is so great! He had like white slicked back hair. It was like meeting the whatever the new, as Dennis Farina is to Chicago, so this guy was to New York. Like he was like handsome and sound like at any moment he was gonna say I'm walking here. The whole time I was just as hard as a diamond. Like I just loved

it so much. What a wonderful experience. Yeah. I think when you spend most of your life on the West Coast, like that voice is such a fucking blast when you hear it in the wild. It's like, it's real. Yeah. It's like you meet that city's avatar and I feel like you very rarely get that in Los Angeles or on the West Coast. Yeah. Yeah. I think living in California, so much of my energy was dedicated probably to like waiting for someone to either say or not say hella so that I would know whether they were from Northern or Southern California. Like the only distinctive thing about any California speech besides the occasional aspirated

vowel. And I just am so jealous of these people who fucking live in Philadelphia. There's just people all around them introducing new vowels to the vowels that were written on the piece of paper. Imagine hearing yinz in conversation. I would love to hear yinz. If yinz are out there in Pittsburgh, come to the Judge John Hodgman show in a few weeks and say that to me so I can finally have an orgasm. I love a quality used guys.

Anytime I hear a used guys, oh boy. Or whatever my morning pancakes, I love it. I think we've probably talked about this, Cody, but where did you grow up? I think I don't know that. I'm from North Carolina, super, super deep South. So my version of that is like, hey, y'all doing? It's a lot of one overall strap off on a tractor. That so my version of that is like hey y'all doing like it's a lot of a lot of like you know one overall strap off on like a tractor like that's that's my version like yeah well cool

yeah exactly yeah yeah yeah all giant giant ropes giant chain ropes as they drive their don their john deers um yeah i'm from the south but like uh i i something about like a quintessential like tri-state area accent does it for me every single time. Like I love that. It's such a unique, uniquely American ethnic accent and I love it. What's great about it is doesn't matter what tri-state area it is. Like you think we're kicking a Maryland accent out of bed?

Absolutely not. No, absolutely not. Come through. Bring some boiled crabs. Cody, do you, uh, do you get more yallish in any particular circumstances? Like my stepmother gets deeply Irish only when she's pissed off. Yeah. I also get very Irish. I don't know where it comes from. Uh, no, um, uh, yeah, so I'm, I'm actually North Carolina right now and I'm flying out tomorrow and I am putting in so much energy not to have my accent slip as we speak right now.

But usually when I come back to L.A. from North Carolina after extended stay, like my voice, my just manner speech gets like a little bit slower. I start saying y'all a lot like advice. There are certain words that get me like, rasslin' or thanks or no, like stuff like that just like slips out. There are certain words that get me like rasslin' or thanks or nah, like stuff like that just like slips out. And it takes so much mental energy for me to not sound like that and have this delicious dulcetone that you currently hear on this podcast. But yeah, if I'm like around you or if I'm tired or like if I have had a couple drinks to me, I will just sound like I got out of the country fields.

I mean, Zigg, I'm glad that you're putting in this effort to make sure that people don't like you more. Yeah, I can only, yeah, I'll be too charming. Like who is this? Too charming. Yeah, who is this southern gentleman talking about anime? Right, you're stoic. That's what we've established. You have a brand, the brand is stoic. Yeah, it's not southern gentleman. It's stoic, so sweet boy. Cody, you played a writer on television shows that you were a writer for.

Yes. I played one on Comedy Bang Bang where my friend, Scott Ackerman, thought, who should play insufferable writer? I know the guy. Was it insufferable in the script? I think it was insufferable, yeah. It might have been smug or something, but I think it was insufferable in the script? I think it was insufferable, yeah. It might have been smug or something, but I think it was insufferable in the script. Egghead, maybe it was egghead poindexter.

Well, look, I believe in your range. I believe you could branch out from egghead to whatever you want. Whatever your truth is, I believe that you could find that truth. To dweeb, you could play a dweeb. Yeah, dork a spaz. Dweeb. He could play a dweeb. Yeah. Dorky spaz. Dweeb. Oh man. Total dingus. Huge virgin. Dilweeb. That's my dream. That's my dream. One of these days. What kind of stuff do you get up to when you're home? You know, that's a good question. A lot of nothing. Like, I truly feel so slothful when I come

home and also, I don't know if you guys feel the same way, but whenever I do come home, I just find myself regressing to like 16 year old me, my high school age me where like, I'll sit on the couch and like, my dad will come and like, hey, how's it going slugger? I'm like, what do you want dad? Like, how do you, what are you in my room? Like, get out of here, you know? I'm building a Gundam. Yeah. I look at hot babes online, like, get out of here. I truly find myself-

I'm trying to download a JPEG. I'm trying to get Doom to work with my DOS machine. Like, it's- Tell mom to get off the phone. I need to use the online. It's a lot of that. And truly, like, I I just I do absolutely nothing like in LA I'm like oh I gotta get my steps in, I gotta close my circles, I gotta go to the gym in here

like when I tell you like my the refrigerator I'm on the second floor of the refrigerator is downstairs. I've not drinking water day just because I didn't have it not felt like going downstairs to get water from the fridge. Like that's how lazy I am. I have sat around and listened to Game of Thrones audiobooks for the past three days. I have been absolutely nothing. Hell yeah.

Are there like foods that you feel like you need to eat? Like if I'm in San Francisco and I didn't eat a burrito, I feel like a turkey. Yeah. I also feel like a turkey. Yes, there are two restaurants that I don't know if you guys have had the honor of having them but they're located basically only in the south and like North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, a little bit of Georgia. But the first spot is a place called Bojangles. It's a if you haven't have it. You guys have not lived Jordan. It seems like you have had it before. Yeah, my extended family is from the south. Oh, yes. Yes, we've, yeah. We had Bojangles. I've never been to Bojangles.

It's my favorite breakfast thing because they serve breakfast all day. If you want a biscuit, any type of biscuit, you want to take any type of like protein and put it on there whether it's chicken, fried steak, bacon, eggs, whatever the thing is like that's the place you go to it. Like I only get it, get to have it like twice a year when I come home. So like that's the first thing I do when I get off the airplane is, like that's the place you go to it. Like I only get it get to have it like twice a year when I come home. So like that's the first thing I do when I get off the airplane is like I find a Bojangles and get like a sausage egg and cheese biscuit on the way. And then also there is a place called Cookout, which is sort of like our

in and out, I guess, or what a burger, depending on where you're at. They have a thing called I feel I could just feel myself like my eyes rolling in the back of my head as I like process this information like levitate because I'm, I fucking love this stuff so much. They have a thing called a cookout tray which for those who don't know, it is a burger which you can choose any size. So, if it's like double, triple, whatever, like you can just choose that and you get two sides. So, if you want to do fries, that's fine. But also, their sides can just be chicken nuggets or like a quesadilla. Like they have such bizarre sides

and then you get like, you can get like a drink or but we're really known, we are like I own the place. What Cookout is really known for is their milkshakes. And all this you can get for like eight bucks. Like it's a crazy, it's a crazy deal. I have no stake in this company. I have no investment in whether or not it makes money, but people, if you're in North Carolina, I highly recommend you get a Bojangles and then you get some click out and then your heart hurts for the next 24 hours.

And it's absolutely worth it. The last time I was in the Carolinas, I was with John Hodgman of the Judge John Hodgman podcast, come out to the tour, maximumfund.org slash events and We sort of like got in late and we needed to eat and we drove out to this intersection and on either on the two sides of this intersection were a Cookout and a Waffle House. Oh, wow

Inside you there are two wolves. There's a what's a cookout or a waffle house. Perfect use of that meme. Hodgman said, well maybe we should go to cookout because the dough boys are always talking about cookout. Yeah. And then- Honestly, pretty good reasoning. And then I said, right, but there's a Waffle House there. Shouldn't we go to that? And we went to the Waffle House and the Waffle House is a fucking trip. Yes, I was about to ask you like what like what like on like a scale like one to 10 was it like, right? Was it like normal? Like, oh, we're scale like one to ten was it like right was it like normal like oh We're just a family getting or is it like knife fight the parking lot waffle house

Like which one is there a guy trying to pay with bones? Yeah, is it like second stage waffles? Like that's the one that I want to go to 100 When I was looking at the waffle house what I was thinking of in my head was cracker barrel I had never been to either of them, but I think people like eating at Cracker Barrel. I really like eating at Cracker Barrel because I like chicken fried steak a lot. That is like something- I fucking love, you and me, you share that. I fucking love chicken fried steak. Carrots. Yeah. And Cracker Barrel is great because you can also grab a rocking chair on your way. Yeah. Yeah. You get to walk through a vintage general store on the way to get your chicken fried steak. That's what makes it so delicious. A couple of coloring butts.

So anyway, the Waffle House is not a Cracker Barrel. We went in there, it is like the most fucking intense. It's like if someone abandoned a Johnny Rockets for 10 or 15 years, and then the people they found living there started a new restaurant. Does that make sense? Yeah. Just some hungry-eyed, sunken-cheeked people were like, oh, what kind of hams do you want? You have multiple hams. There's two different hams do you want? They have multiple hams. Yeah, I think that-

There's two different hams, country ham and city ham. I knew that there was, I've had country ham before, but I didn't know that all other hams were city ham. Yeah, city slicker hams. The thing that makes country ham so delicious that is just cured, like it just, take the most amount of sodium you can think about,

and then add three times the amount of that. That's what makes country ham so delicious. But I think that really sets Waffle House apart from any other restaurant is that like there's like a 30% chance that you will walk into an active crime scene when you're at the Waffle House. But the thing that makes it so fun is that like the people that perpetrate it could be either behind the counter or across the counter. Like there's you have no idea who's going to start the fight. No matter who starts the fight, like there's probably a 50% chance that the person behind

the counter will be equipped to end that fight. No matter who starts it, whether they're like a six foot eight bouncer, like pro wrestler or whatever, like there will be a grizzled, like 35 year old black line cook who will end that fight no matter what. They have nothing to lose and I love that. When he get nunchucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It really has a strong vibe of like you're, I don't know if either of you guys are thrift

store shoppers, but sometimes you'll be at a Goodwill or a Salvation Army, one of the big thrift stores that is attached to a job training center. Right? So both of those are sort of semi charities. I mean, they're nonprofits, but the charity that they do is they give job training to people who might not otherwise be able to get job training. And that specifically is terrifying 40 year olds, just 40 year old men who are gathered outside smoking cigarettes and looking like a knife fight could break out. Looking at any moment, somebody could smash a bottle on something. You know what I mean?

I think the waffle house is our modern equivalent of a saloon, like an old west saloon where the one thing it's missing is like the- You can slide someone around on the counter. They slide some hash browns down the counter. If you get into a fight, they drag you down and throw you out the door like- The people at the Waffle House looked like those dudes, but they were women. And well, one guy was like, what's the guy from Road Trip called? DJ Qualls?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure. One guy looked like DJ Qualls. Yeah, yeah. But other than that, it was ladies who were like the lady equivalent of those dudes where they really looked like they could cut you. Like I said, sort of hollow cheeked, intense eyes, surprising tattoos. They were so nice.

They were so friendly. So glad to help us. Not necessarily good at helping us. I wouldn't go that far, but like skilled at helping us. But so sincerely glad to be helpful. So totally pleasant to two fucking guys that could not have fit in less, who just sort of like blew in with the tumbleweed. Like a saloon.

I. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Sure. Sure. The food is not particularly good, but I had a very lovely dining experience. Yeah. You don't come there for the food. You come there for the possibility of a fight breaking out. Hodgman at the time was avoiding carbs. Create restaurant to pick if you want to avoid carbs. I'll have napkins and water. Yeah. Well, that's the thing because Hodgman just went in there and he's like, you know what I'm gonna do?

I'm like, what's that John? He was like, I'm gonna order one of every meat. Wow. And so, he's like, can I have the ham? She's like, city ham or country ham? He's like, why don't you bring me a city ham and a country ham? Like, fuck yeah. Damn.

Yeah, that's the move. Living the life. Living the life. Living the life. I'll say something that might get flack. And just I want to be clear that I am speaking, so if you feel the need to drag anyone, this is Jordan speaking, don't rope Jesse or Zig into this. Because I know this is something about which people feel passionately about. The last time I was in Texas, my hotel was right next to a Whataburger. something about which people feel passionately about.

The last time I was in Texas, my hotel was right next to a water burger. I had not had a water burger in years. We would maybe have it when we went to visit my relatives in Beaumont, but I had not had it as an adult. I love a regional chain that people feel passionately about. It's always like fun to try and So yeah my hotel right next to the water burger. It's coming home. I had a couple drink my home I mean back to the hotel. I'm like I had a couple of drinks and I'm like, well

Now's the time I Like strolled over like got burger fries vanilla milkshake. Who's this hot shot coming in our water bugger? Yeah Burger fries vanilla milkshake. Who's this hot shot coming in our water bugger? Yeah Well city boy, I was fanning myself with dollar bills Holding the deed to my oil Burger fries burger fries milkshake took it back to my hotel room and it fucking sucked. It was awful. It was like a school lunch burger, and not in a fun way. It was like, oh, this has been sitting a long time. This is like, you know, so I was bummed. I was really excited for

it and it didn't deliver. And I was like, then so the next day I was, I was, there was a coworker there who was from Texas and she was like, did you do it? Did you get the Wada burger? And I'm like, I did. I'm like, I'm, I'm sorry. I was excited about it. You know, you know, got a, got a cheeseburger and it just, it just, it just didn't do it. I didn't love it. She's like, we don't get the burger. Wait, what do you get then? I don't know. She was mad that I went to Wada Burger and ordered a burger. Like no fucking, yeah.

Like, I mean, you know, sometimes you hear about somebody going to a place and they like make a weird order and they don't get the thing it's famous for. But apparently there's something else you get at Whataburger other than a burger and I fucked it up. Yeah, well you didn't see the little asterisk next to Whataburger that says don't actually order the burger when you look on the menu. I will admit I've never actually had Whataburger.

Oh yeah. Yeah, so like I drove through Texas when I moved to LA. I drove across the country to get here obviously. And of course it takes 800 years to get across to LA. I drove across the country to get here, obviously. And of course, it takes 800 years to get across to Texas. But I always, every time I wanted to stop at a Waddeburger, I was like, I'll just get the next one. And by the next time, by the time I was ready to commit to it, I was in New Mexico, whatever. Yeah. Well, if that ever happens again, apparently don't get the burger.

Yeah. I know. I got to go on the Reddit forums and see what the secret hacks are to get at Whataburger. How were the fries though? The fries? The fries were bad and the shake was bad. The whole fucking thing was nothing worked. I was excited about all of it. But yeah, maybe, I don't know, enchiladas. OK, what's the best thing at Whataburger from r slash Whataburger?

This is who to go to. Yeah. Patty melt with bacon. Okay. That might be good. I see the vision. I love a patty melt. I love a patty melt. Fajita veggies and mushrooms with some what a chicken bites smothered in A1 on a jalapeno

cheddar biscuit. So fucking complicated. Is that just on there? Do I have to like explain that to the stoned 19 year old behind the counter? Yeah. Once you get to the fourth ingredient, I like, I kind of tapped out a little bit, but the patty melt sounds, you know, sounds pretty solid. Yeah. I mean, I do. I love a patty melt.

I'll tell you this. I, there is right by our office, there is a restaurant called Tommy's Burgers that is like a Southern California institution. It is not a famous one, like In-N-Out Burger, like a nationally or internationally famous, but a locally famous. I had never heard of it when I moved to Los Angeles. And I lived in a neighborhood adjacent to where our office is. I lived in Koreatown, right near this Tommy's Burger. And I heard about it for the first two years I lived in Los

Angeles, people would be telling me about Tommy's Burger. And Tommy's Burger is a burger place that serves a burger just like one of these places puts fried egg on top of their burger. Which one is that? Somebody puts a fried egg on it. No, I don't know. I've seen that on burgers. I don't know that whose thing that is though. Sean And then ice cube wraps about it I believe. Stan Okay. Sean I mean, maybe fat burger was the first place to do that. Sean Yeah. And then Tommy's burger, they put chili on top. Sean Yeah, they put chili on there.

Sean Sure. Sean Yeah. Sean Is there anything else in the dish they give you sometimes? No, it's just a just a paper wrapper filled with chili I ordered one of these and it sucked so hard. It was just one of the worst things I've ever eaten it just was garbage and I guess I'm so glad you're speaking your truth because I Want you finished but I have a thought on that as well. Oh, sure.

Yeah, please. Yeah. All I can say is this. One time our colleague Christian Duenas, Jordan, Jesse Go Legend was talking about it and I said, man, I bought that one time and I just really thought it's fucking sucked. And I don't think we're friends anymore. So I, I, I, again, I don't want to offend anyone. I don't want to offend anyone who enjoys Tommy burger to LA staple. Um, but I had a very similar conversation with, um, Matt Walsh many years ago,

I worked at a press citizens per game. And if you're further, you don't know, one of the theaters is right next to like one of the Tommy, Tommy, I guess, restaurant. And I went, he's like, you should try the Tommy burger. And I'm like, oh, sure. And I went through there and I was like, oh, it's I ate it. And it truly again, I don't want to offend anyone. It just looks like diarrhea. Like they put so much sloppy, wet, thick chili on the burger that it overwhelms it. And like I told him that

I got one, he's like, oh, I was joking. It's like it truly is just like a diarrhea burger. Like you eat it, your stomach does backflips instantly, like it doesn't really taste good. And again, I don't want to insult anyone who loves Tommy Burger, it's an LA staple, I respect that, I see you. But it truly is one of the absolute worst meals I've ever had and like and I truly, I don't, I don't, I don't get it. I feel crazy. I feel like I'm being gassed at that. Like, it's a staple. People love it. But like I, it is a, it is a, in my opinion, a garbage diarrhea. I mean, I would eat.

Respectfully. Like if you guys said to me right now, would you like to eat a chili dog? Yes. You offered me a chili dog from the direst possible venue that could possibly give me a chili dog. Somebody's pulling it with tongs. Jesse, I had a convention center to chili dog today for lunch. Yes. So this is what I'm talking about. If I was at a little league game right now, and everyone had wandered away from the concession stand and come back three hours later. And they gave me the chili dog that they had started preparing before they left and finished

after they came back. And I ate that. I would be like, chili dog. Chili dogs are pretty good. You're like Sonic the Hedgehog in that one. Yeah, yeah, you're like Sonic. But this burger was the absolute most pathetic excuse for a food I've ever eaten. And I mean, for one thing, a dog, the chili dog holds the chili.

Yes. Yes. It's just like a flat plane when you're eating a burger. Like it has nowhere to go. Like the bun catches it, it scoops it, it embraces it very lovingly. But like a burger, like it has got nowhere to go but like onto your hand and like the plastic wrapper they put it in. And look, we covered this on the show some years ago. But I believe in my heart that the hot dog is both the safest and one of the less good foods

you could buy in any context. So like, I will, I have no worries about buying a hot dog anywhere. I will gladly eat it and it will be a four out of 10 no matter where it's from. You know, like a hot dog is fine no matter where you get it from, but it's not ever any better than that. Look, you can make these really complicated hot dogs that are more not hot dog than hot dog. Maybe it's better, but I'm talking about just hot dog in general. But I think burger is a dramatically cheeseburger, dramatically better food than hot dog. Cheeseburgers got hot dog be eight ways till Sunday. It's not

even an expression. But the band of quality of burger is dramatically wider. I've had some awful, awful burgers. And that might be like my favorite thing to eat in the world. Oh yeah. Whereas hot dogs always a four to a six at best. This was my reasoning today, eating at the convention center. I did have a choice burger or hot dog. And I used that logic exactly. I'm like, yeah, the convention center, I did have a choice, burger or hot dog. Yeah.

And I used that logic exactly. I'm like, yeah, this will do it. Do they put cheese on it? Yeah. What kind of hot dog are we working with over here? Oh, yeah, chili cheese, green onions. It was pretty good. Yeah, I liked it.

Oh, green onions. Green onions, I know. Classy, not just chopped white onions. Exactly. That's why I paid $20 for it or whatever I will say the worst hot dog I had is still as good as the best hot dog like the the margin of error is so small but like I I don't eat that much red meat, but when I do I really want to enjoy it

So like I am a like a hamburger hunter. I don't think that's the real thing. I'm calling that now. I'm coining that term. Crazy English story, sweetheart slash hamburger hunter. So, like, I try to define like anytime like a list drops of like the best burgers in LA. So, let me see what they're talking about. And I have to say- Yeah. I'm a sucker for those too. Yeah. Every time. I'm like, give me a couple of them. But I have to say for my money, Everson Royce Bar, Angeles has one of the absolute best burgers I've ever had on the planet.

And the breadth of quality between that and like, say, Tommy Burger is like complete night and day. There's a lot of stores, places in Los Angeles in particular, that sell this weird Los Angeles fast food group of things. These are the places that say burrito pastrami burgers on the side. Breakfast. Too much. Yeah.

And those places, often one of those things is good there. There's no way to know unless someone has told you. Like, completely way to know unless someone has told you. Like, completely impossible to know. And the odds that you are going to get just a three out of 10 burger are so high unless you blundered into one of the good burger ones. Like that's one in six, one in five of these places has great burgers and actually it's

a burger stand that sells great burgers and just keeps a vat of pastrami in the back that they change out every six months. But you're like, why is this place still open? And you know, why is it always full? And it's like the stew, the stew at Kevin's burgers. Yeah. Jonathan Gold loved the stew. They have a great British onion. Yeah, I have been going to, I've been going lately to a lot of Los Angeles Sparks games,

the WNBA team here in Los Angeles. It's great fun, strongly recommend going on StubHub, buying $10 tickets for the WNBA game. No bad seats. It's a great time. But at the Staples Center or now called the Crypto.com arena, Jesus Christ. But at the Crypto.com arena, because a lot fewer people go to the Sparks game than would go to a Kings game or a Lakers game. There's only like one stand open and the stand has three choices. There's like a hot dog, a not chicken, chicken sandwich, and chicken strips and that's all you can get. Like I walked around the whole stadium like

there's got to be another choice here. So So I've seen so many fucking chicken strips lately. Just so many fucking waffle fries. You go to Dodger Stadium, you know, they'll, they'll make you, you know, they'll make you a fucking Wagyu steak or whatever. Like there's 20 trillion. They're like, oh, yeah, the Azerbaijani stand is 40 feet down. Yeah, that's on the sushi section're like, oh you will. Yeah, the Azerbaijani stand is 40 feet down Yeah, that's on the sushi section over there. Yeah. Yeah little Japan the little Japan Baseball stadium do you NBA game basically has just like the fucking children's menu of a shitty restaurant Hey, you guys want to door dash some ballpark sushi and then come back and finish her out? Absolutely. We'll be back in just a second. I'm Jordan Jesse Go.

Hey, everybody. I'm Jeremy. I'm Oscar. I'm Demetri. And we are the Eurovangelists. We're a weekly podcast spreading the word of the Eurovision Song Contest, the most important music competition in the world. Maybe you already heard Glenn Weldon of NPR's Pop Culture Happy Hour talk up our coverage of this year's contest, but what do we talk about in the off season?

The rest of Eurovision, duh. There are nearly seven decades of pop music history to cover. Mm-hmm, we've got thousands of amazing songs, inspiring competitors, and so much drama to discuss, and let me tell you, the drama is juicy. juicy plus all the gorillas and bread baking grandma's that Make Eurovision so special check out your evangelists available everywhere You get podcast and you could be at your evangelist too. Oh, I want to be one you already are it's that easy. Okay, cool

Most of the plants humans eat are technically grass Most of the asphalt we drive on is almost a liquid. The formula of WD-40 is San Diego's greatest secret. Zippers were invented by a Swedish immigrant love story. On the podcast Secretly Incredibly Fascinating, we explore this type of amazing stuff. Stuff about ordinary topics like cabbage and batteries and socks. Topics you'd never expect to be. The title of the podcast, secretly incredibly fascinating. Find us by searching for the word

secretly in your podcast app and at maximum fun.org. It's Jordan, Jesse Goh. I am Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy, detective. Cody Ziegler, the hamburger hunter. Well, Cody, it's been a joy to talk to you on this program. Thank you, by the way, for agreeing to be the new co-host of the show. I'm so sorry about having to let Jordan go. It's just that Texas is one of the largest states in the union. Yeah. And they've got guns.

So many guns. So the combo combo pack. Yeah. Cody, you OK, so I mentioned that you were that you're a comic book writer as well. And it's more than just was his name spider punk. Yes. Spidey punk, Spidey man, all the Spidey's, Deadpool's. Spidey punk. Yeah, Cody writes Deadpool, Jesse. Oh, really? The most popular guy. Wait, from the movie Deadpool and versus Wolverine? That guy. Yeah.

He's a little stinker. Man, that guy's always saying something. He is. He's a little stinker. He's always getting into something. Shenanigans and what not. He's like a superhero, but with a... I don't know.

I don't even know if I should say this. I'm just going to say it. A rude toot? Yeah. I mean, I think you crossed a little bit of a line, but I will see. He has a little bit of a toot. He can be rude. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. It's coming from the man himself. But you have your own graphic novel. I do. Of work that you have created coming out in September. What's the deal? What's the story? Yeah, I got a horror comedy graphic novel called Goobers coming out through Vault Comics

September 18th. It's basically I moved back to my hometown when COVID was happening and I don't know if I can speak for you guys, but like I grew up in a very small southern rural town and I was like, man, it's crazy how this place has not changed. And I was like, what if I wrote a comic book about that, but instead of the reason not changing because you're in a small town, it's because the town was taken over by alien worms called goobers and like that's where this comes from. So, right. It's very fun. I had a lot of fun writing it. If you love like

Charlie the Dead or Nope or Get Out or Night of the Creeps or any of those type of movies like this definitely I highly recommend I think you really enjoy it. Also, it's just fun like writing about my hometown and having it be Oh, what if everyone was like zombie zombie? Worms, so it's been very funny fun to write and I hope people will people enjoy it. Oh, yeah Just just today Cody. I watched an episode of news radio starring George Lindsey goober from the Andy Griffith show Goober from the Andy Griffith show. A constantly shot in North Carolina or based in North Carolina. Is this kind of monthly comics that you get at a comic shop or is this a graphic novel

you can get anywhere? It'll be both. It's going to be three issues, three 40 page issues, so you do get some bang for your buck. Oh yeah. Yeah, so it'll come out every month for the first few months and then we're going to combine it all into one giant trade paperback or like a graphic novel, 120 page graphic novel. You can preorder it now or you could just like buy it from your local comic book shop. I would suggest buying it from your local comic book shop because they love, they need to be supported.

And, you know, as Jordan can attest to, like, they really do like a lot of the work when it comes to like getting people getting people's books out there and having a relationship with a mom and pop shop is really important. So I would suggest hitting up wherever your local comic book shop is and pre-ordering it. I'm glad you brought this up, but the other night I had had a couple of drinks and I saw a local comic book shop. So I thought, what better time to stop in? I stopped in and I thought it sucked. I thought it was terrible. So you're thinking of Sonic. Yeah, I think it was Sonic. I think you

wouldn't do a Sonic. Sonic's pretty good. The drinks are great. Yeah, it's got that special ice, right? Yeah, the special ice and then you can get a lime, Dr. Pepper. Yeah, they think you think someone's going to skate out to you and give you give you order But then it's just someone in regular shoes. Yeah, what there's no fucking roller skates there I haven't damn it. They still do the roller skate stick or I feel like I haven't last time I was at a sonic there was no skates. Yeah shit, yeah I know I know the drinks are really good the drinks are great. I understand why people love those drinks. It's like, oh, yeah This is great. It's like a son of a lot of Dr. Pepper. Yeah, it's really really they're really good. Yeah, I want that right now

Yeah, there's one out in Alhambra. If you want to drive to Alhambra, you can go to a Sonic That's a one out in Joshua Tree if you want to go out there Oh, like I did and do some hallucinate drugs and then come down and go Yeah, it was fantastic no notes on that one. Yeah, can I get that with grilled magic? Yes, okay goopers listen Cody you're talking to an audience with the poll list they can do it They know listen go down whatever that we're whoever the nice folks are working at your LCS Tell them you want to put goober on the on the poll list and yeah, well, yeah We'll have a Stephen Ray more throw some throw some links in the show notes So people can just click away

Okay, I'm gonna add something to this, by the way. If you don't have a pull list, you know that you work at a fucking library. Libraries buy comic books too. That's true. Yes, they do. Big supporters of it. Don't fuck around. Buy some for the library.

So mad at these listeners that support us. We hate these nice assholes. Cody, it's been a joy. It's always nice to see you. Of course. The new season of Futurama is real good. Oh, thank you. Yeah, you all should be proud.

I love that show and I'm so glad that it's back. You all are doing such a good job. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for having me. It's always a blast. Yeah. And thanks for the support as always.

Yeah. Jordan is a true passionate Futurama head since the day I've known him. Now me again, B minus. Again, just like the Simpsons, just like the Simpsons, they're both B minus. We're just trying to start shitting the comments. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Engagement. Yeah. What a burger. Waffle house. Yeah.

You have to put some Tommy's. Yeah. Fry Lila. Yeah. Fender. Our producer, Stephen Ray Morris, our producer and meritist, Brian Sunny D. Fernandez, our theme music, Love You by The Free Design, our thanks to the band and to Light in the Attic Records, their label. Find us on Instagram at jordandavidmorris at jordanjessegopod, right? Pod? Pod. Jordan Jesse go pod right pod pod Jordan Jesse go pod Jordan Jesse go pod yeah and at Jesse foreign very famous join us on Facebook Facebook.com slash Jordan Jesse go and on Twitter at twitter.com slash Jordan Jesse go that's about all we need to say so we'll talk to you next time on Jordan Jesse Goh. I'll hug you and kiss you and love you. Love you.

Love you. Love you. Love you. Love you. Maximum Fun, a worker-owned network of artist-owned shows, supported directly by you.