Joy, a Podcast. Hosted by Craig Ferguson - Gabriel Iglesias
Episode Date: August 1, 2023The first episode of Craig Ferguson’s brand new podcast “JOY” brings you a conversation with one of the biggest comedians in the world: the legendary Gabriel “Fluffy” Iglesias! Craig and F...luffy discuss what it’s like performing stand-up in a stadium, Fluffy’s collection of vintage Volkswagen vans, and how it is for him to still be living in his home town of Long Beach, CA after becoming a household name. enJOY!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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that I am bringing the Fancy Rascal Tour to the South this weekend.
August 4th at Gold Strike Casino Resort,
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Here's Gabriel Iglesias, one of the most successful comedians on earth.
Enjoy.
Okay, so I was watching your stadium special last night.
I think you might be the only comedian I know who's ever done a stadium.
Are you the only one that's done a stadium?
No, Kevin Hart did it.
He did it in Philadelphia a few years ago.
And I want to say Larry the Cable Guy did one for a special at a college.
And there's this comedian, I forget his name.
He's a German comic right
who
that's unusual
I never heard of that
he set the record
right
I know right
German
German
German and comedy
are you sure he was a comedian
was he Austrian
and was it Nuremberg
because that's a completely
different
I was like
everyone was having
a great time
they better have
a good time.
So the actual,
the Guinness Book of World Records
biggest comedy show was set by a German
many years ago.
Yeah, I want to say it was 67,000.
You're after that record, aren't you?
You know what?
That would be a great goal.
It would be a great goal.
I knew it.
I think when I watch you,
because I'm a comedian as well.
I've never played a stadium, but I like to think that I've got some chops a little bit.
But I'm watching you in this thing, this special, because I'm watching it last night.
And I'm thinking, you're playing this like it's a club.
You were just relaxed.
It didn't look to me like you were pumped or anything, which I think is amazing. Because I know what it's a club. Like I've never, you were just relaxed. It didn't look to me like you were like pumped or anything, which I think is amazing because I know what it's like to get up there and
to feel the energy of a crowd and to try and fight against your own tendency to just run around and
make a noise. You know, it's like, it was amazing. And watch, did you like, did you chant? Do you
have a meditation process? Yeah, that's a better question.
Like, what's his routine offstage?
Believe it or not, I'm just usually having a conversation like this with somebody,
either the tour manager or my buddy, Martine,
or somebody who's right there next to me offstage.
We're just chit-chatting until either the intro video or whoever is introducing me introduces me.
You know what I'm saying?
And then you just go?
Yeah, so I'm having a conversation.
I know a lot of entertainers
that like to get in the zone.
They light incense.
They have to drink something.
They have to smoke something.
They have to be in a corner.
They got to, you know,
and I'd rather just have a conversation
and just take this.
I find that quite interesting.
And then just keep going up there.
That's almost weird, Gabriel.
That's kind of like that
because it's like when you know the thing in Silence of the Lambs.
Which part?
In Silence of the Lambs, when they're describing Hannibal Lecter and they said they had the pulse meter on him and he bit off a nurse's ear and his pulse didn't change.
That's when they knew he was so crazy that he didn't even get adrenal when he was doing it.
Is that how crazy you are?
You don't even get adrenal?
No, I do get excited.
It's just that for that one in particular,
I just think that it was a year in the making
from the time that we planned it.
And once it was there, it felt very much like a homecoming.
It felt like everybody there wants me to do good.
I felt like it was a celebration of something
bigger than me you know it wasn't like i was trying to go out there and kill it it was like
everyone knew what it took to be at that moment and we were all just celebrating it you are a
very interesting comic to me as well i think because you have no other comedian that i've
spoken to has the level of goodwill that you have.
Everybody loves you.
There's like everybody loves you.
Oh, you can find haters.
No.
Well, I guess you can find them because you're a comedian.
Do you go looking for them?
I don't go looking for them.
But, you know, I do read my own social media.
I run my own social media.
So I'm looking at comments and stuff.
And, you know, people say, oh, you got to just brush it off.
But it's, you know, or not pay pay attention but i have to pay attention that's what
makes me me yeah so you know but you know every now and then there's there's someone who doesn't
like what i do does it get to you does it ever get to you does it get you down it makes me question
well what is it that i'm doing what is you know i've been in enough therapy sessions to be able
to question myself now uh do you do you get get therapy? I mean, I've had a ton
of therapy. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I've done it for years. And I think it's a great thing.
No, that's interesting because you come across, and I think a lot of your audience think,
like, he's just a guy. He's just a guy who says funny things. But there's no such thing as just
a guy who says funny things in a stadium. That's not like a normal guy. You know, I mean, I know
that you are normal in the sense that you're not crazy
but you're a little bit crazy because you're a stand-up comedian a lot of it is is about for me
I think everyone I know and I know a bunch of them there's a kind of there's an energy and a
darkness that goes with it too right yeah definitely you have to have something going on with you to
to want to get up on stage and yeah and get the laughs and and to make people going on with you to want to get up on stage and get the laughs and to make
people smile and just, you know, there's something there. What do you think it is with you? Because
most people I talk to, I don't want to lead the witness, but most people I talk to, I think it's
in childhood somewhere. I was about to say, I've always been a big kid. I've always been the last
to get chosen for activities. I've always been the, you know, the activities i've always been the you know the unpopular one
a chubby kid messed up teeth you know i had acne chubby and messed up teeth would just make it
normal in scotland it's like your career would be screwed if you were scottish things that that
you know uh kept me from being social because people would you know the kids were cruel you
know i mean they bullying now is one thing but back then they they added a it
was physical too yeah so so there was just a lot of that and and i think that once i found comedy
comedy was the it was my hero it was my savior it's what protected me and kept me from feeling
all those different was it a conscious thing as a kid because i mean of course you hear comedians
say it was i used it to protect myself and i and i too, but I wasn't aware that I was doing that at the time.
I was just like, you just do anything available to protect yourself, right?
Comedy for me, I definitely knew that that's what it was doing.
And it made me want to do it more.
And I loved it too.
I loved the attention.
I loved the thrill, the butterflies that you would get right before you'd walk out on stage.
When did you first start doing it?
I was 10 years old.
The first time I tried it.
I did a school talent show.
I was up on stage doing impressions because I didn't exactly know what comedy was.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I had watched an Eddie Murphy special and probably not the...
Which one?
It wouldn't be wrong. It doesn't matter which one it is. It probably wasn't something that a 10 year old should be watching. But, uh, I love the fact that he was doing the voices and the characters. And that's what I was drawn to. I was drawn to the animated part of it. Not so much the foul language or whatever else he was talking about. I was drawn to the, the animated part. And I knew that I had this ability of altering my voice and playing.
And so I got a chance to audition for a school talent show.
And they said, well, you know, what are you going to do?
I said, well, I do voices.
And I didn't know what really, you know, how to do comedy.
But I knew that I had seen enough of a guy by the name of Rich Little way back in the day.
Remember him?
Oh, yeah.
Impressionist.
He did the White House Correspondents another year before I did it.
He was really, oh, okay.
Yeah.
So I know exactly who you mean because I was, have you done that yet?
No.
So you stay away from politics.
I stay away from anything political.
Well, I do too.
I just, I mean, I think that's the reason why they asked me.
I mean, I used to talk about it a little more than I do now.
I'm like, now it's just mean, I used to talk about it a little more than I do now. I'm like,
now it's just crazy.
Did you ever talk about it?
In the beginning,
I did when it wasn't so taboo.
Whereas now,
you sneeze the wrong way
and people are like,
oh,
oh,
it's like that.
Yeah.
I mean,
you talk about that.
Was that in the,
it was in one of your specials
you talk about
somebody trying to blackmail you?
Like that fake.
But that's all the time though.
I can't even say
that that's a one and done.
No.
People are always like,
you know,
once you have a little bit
of success
or a lot of success,
people want a piece of the pie.
And so they'll try to,
you know,
hey, I got this photo of this
or hey,
I saw you doing that
or, you know.
Are you a party animal?
Do you go out and...
I'm not a party animal.
I'm 46 now.
I just want to do my show
and go and hang out with my dogs
and grab a soda.
I was more partying in the 20s,
you know, when I was 20.
Yeah.
20, 25.
That was more so.
Did you ever get...
Like, I was shocking drunk
when I was in my 20s.
I had to get sober.
I would drink a lot.
Yeah?
I would drink a lot, yeah.
Did you get...
A lot.
Did it get out of hand for you?
Yeah, I'm sure it did.
See? I knew I liked you. I'm sure there are photos, yeah. Did it get out of hand for you? Yeah, I'm sure it did. See, I knew I liked you.
I'm sure there are photos, but you know what?
It was a different time.
You know, I feel that a little bit.
I feel sorry for a lot of the youngsters today
because if there were cell phones around when I was drinking,
I mean, the level of embarrassment and shame that they could...
You had time to prepare if somebody was going to take a photo. It's oh look at him he's getting drunk hold on or the guy puts the the black thing
over his head and you're upside down and you have to stay still and then the flash goes off gotcha
so that darkness then oh but to answer your question from earlier the voices and the
characters and stuff i went up on stage and i realized that i had something going there because that night when i
went up there and i was doing impressions of peewee herman who at the time was you know he he was still
peewee herman oh that's right peewee herman ronald reagan popeye mickey mouse these were the characters
i was doing when i was 10 years old and the crowd reacted to it and they're like wow look at him
and i had a microphone and it was loud and I could actually hear myself.
It was the first time I worked with a microphone.
Even with me, I was like, oh, wow, I'm on to something.
And then I did the talent show again the following year.
And then I went seven years before I was in high school.
I got on the speech team.
And that's where I got the courage to get up in front of class.
And I just started doing that every single day, getting up in front of the class until eventually I was just super comfortable in front of people.
Was it a good school you went to?
No, it was a shit school.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm proud of
because I graduated from it,
Long Beach Wilson, what's up?
But there are many better schools,
a lot better schools.
But that's, you know.
Was it a violent environment?
During that time, yes.
Yeah.
Oh, there was always school fights
and riots in the quad
and stuff like that.
It's a lot of comedians I know, particularly know particularly of i avoided them though i wasn't in
the mix yeah the school mosh pit but that that i think because i think of you as a i mean if you
were a british comedian i'd say you were a working class comedian do you know what i mean it's like
you're i feel like you're i mean this is a compliment by the way this is a like a blue
collar guy you're from a working class environment
even to the extent you still live it
no silver spoon for sure
it was just my mom and I
no dad in the picture
section 8 housing, public housing
we were on welfare which is the wick of today
you think that's part of it
my wife has a theory that all stand up comedians
have the same mother
she was very strong.
Very strong, very loud, very opinionated.
Did not think I was a good comedian.
She didn't think I was funny, period.
Yeah, see that?
That's exactly.
But I didn't need a fan.
I needed a mom.
Right, I get it.
But it's an interesting thing because I think you take a personality of a kid.
If you're like a chubby little kid who's afraid because that's exactly
what i was when i was a kid i was afraid and you start being funny and you don't even know you're
funny but you know that they're not hitting you if you can divert their attention right it is a
kind of odd darkness and then you get into drinking were you ever in a drug taking no not really i'm
more of an advil pm kind of guy right
yeah you didn't go for it because i always liked cocaine i always thought was a good vitamin
to help you drink more i never i never thought it was a drug i just thought it was like a
drinker's vitamin like a kind of like the way the kids use red bull yeah it's dry red bull
you never got into though because because there's a, I think particularly, you know, if you
grew up in LA, LA has a real culture of, you know, you get drawn into all that as a young
person.
There was a lot of it around.
There was a lot of it around.
So how did you avoid it?
You know, what's crazy is that I always heard stories where big guys usually did not handle
cocaine well.
Right. It was always, you know what, if you're big and you do blow, then you're going to die. where big guys usually did not handle cocaine well.
It was always, you know what, if you're big and you do blow,
then you're going to die.
You're going to have a heart attack and die because big guys can't hang.
And so that alone was more than enough to keep me scared straight where I'm like, no, I'm big.
I can't be doing that.
I'll have a drink.
So you didn't have a self-destruct thing.
It was just like to get messed up, but it wasn't to destroy yourself.
No, but also too, I i mean i worked a lot i really focused and i was so excited about doing stand-up
where that's what i wanted to do it wasn't the party after that i was after it was actually the
stage yeah so you know i was just trying like okay where can i find another stage where can i go up
you know this is before social media so you actually had to go and hang out with people
and like you're at denny's at two, three o'clock in the morning
with other comics.
Some are drunk, some are on something else.
Some are just there to do exactly what you're there to do.
And you know, that was your social circle.
And, you know, you kind of built off of that.
You'd save, hey, can I get so-and-so's number?
Can I call him?
Do you know if he's booking?
Where can I send a tape?
You know, this is all stuff that you had to do back then.
So there was a lot of homework.
You wouldn't know any of these guys. that you had to do back then. So there was a lot of homework.
You wouldn't know any of these guys.
Yeah.
It was a small group. So when did you start moving up, do you think?
When did you start working for it?
I was very fortunate that I caught lightning in a bottle really quick.
So April 10th, 1997 is my first official start date where I called myself a comic.
I was in Long Beach, which is where I live now still.
Yeah, I know, because you drove here today
in LA, and it was raining, and I was like, I can't
believe you didn't cancel. The fact that it would rain.
I nearly canceled, and I'm like five
minutes from here. And I felt bad
because I'm like, I'm going to be late.
I'm still coming, but I'm going to be late.
I think that's a working question.
I sailed here. That's your mom did that.
That's your mom did that. I sailed here.
You have to get to that. You have to get there.'s your mom did that. That's your mom did that. I sailed here. You have to get to that.
You have to get there.
If your mom was Scottish,
that's it.
You have to get there.
Who do you think you are?
Do you know what Jay Leno told me this thing?
That when he took over the Tonight Show,
it used to say the Tonight Show
starring Johnny Carson.
And then when he took over,
it said the Tonight Show starring Jay Leno.
And he told his mom and his mom said, oh, his mom was Scottish.
She said, oh, The Tonight Show starring Jay Leno.
Starring Jay Leno, is it?
Who do you think you are?
So he had to change it to The Tonight Show with Jay Leno.
Because his mom.
Because his mom.
He was frightened of his mom.
He was on the cover of Time magazine in Boston, where he grew up, and his mom said,
it's probably just the local Time Magazine.
He said, Mom, there isn't a local Time Magazine.
See, I think moms of comedians are kind of like that.
They're the humblers.
Yeah, they sure are.
Yeah, there was no time where I could brag around my mom.
Is your mom still around?
No, unfortunately not.
She's been gone 10 years now,
but I know that uh
anytime i say something out loud that that kind of like i could hear my mom already like how she
would have reacted to that yeah yeah it's interesting i i feel that from actually watching
oh okay oh look at you oh that's exactly what my mother did yeah i wonder because you're you're
quite open a lot i say that i don't know if you're quite open. I say that.
I don't know if you're open.
You talk about your family in your act.
You talk about your son in your act.
Whenever I talked about my kids, they don't like him.
They stopped me doing it.
They're like, nope, that's not okay.
That's where I'm at right now.
Oh, really?
Is he saying it to you?
You got to stop it?
It took a minute.
He didn't say I have to stop, but he made it clear that he didn't appreciate it.
And I didn't want to keep doing it if it was going to bother him because I don't want the resentment and want him getting, you know.
For me, I just saw it as my form of parenting because I'm like, you know, before shaming was a thing.
That's how you make fun of them.
You embarrass them.
You embarrass your kids so that they wouldn't do it.
And I figured embarrassing them was better than spanking them. It's better than yelling of them. You embarrass them. You embarrass your kids so that they wouldn't do it. And I figured embarrassing them was better than spanking them.
It's better than yelling at them.
Hey, look, I'm just going to make you feel stupid.
And hopefully you don't do that again.
Well, it's got an interesting thing because doing that now,
because I agree with you.
It's like somebody makes you feel dumb about doing something,
you're less likely to do it again.
And if it's done from a loving position, then that's fine. But I think the problem that I don't know, I think people are
having with the younger generation right now is maybe that they don't handle any kind of contrary
opinion very well. I don't think it's anything to do with woke. I think decent people have always
been decent people, but I think the idea of, you know, I should have a hassle-free life.
You go, really?
Have you ever been on the 405?
Because there's no such thing as a hassle-free life.
It's like you're going to get hassled.
It's just one of those things.
I mean, you should get trained for it a little bit.
What age is your boy now?
25.
Yeah, it's time to stop.
He'll hit you if you don't stop.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
It's time to stop.
He'll hit you if you don't stop. Yeah.
That's crazy.
So when he was growing up, now you were with his mom?
Yes.
I got him when he was seven.
So he's his stepson?
Yes.
Okay.
My mom would call him aftermarket.
Listen, I don't hold with that.
I think love is love and family is family,
and I don't buy into that kind of half-brother, step-sister, all that.
It's just a way of kind of fine-tuning the description.
That's all it is.
But my mom was pretty hardcore and set against me having any type of relationship with anyone that already had a, what did she call it?
She said, oh, that girl you're dating, she has a pre-existing condition.
I go, mom, it's not a medical thing.
She's got a kid.
What's the big deal
you know she goes you need to have one of your own and i'm like mom it's fine that's an interesting
thing that your mom did your mom ever come around to it was she all right in the end she you know
what she was not really she was just cool like okay fine but she wasn't going out of her way
to be like hey come here hey let me you know yeah it her way to be like, hey, come here. Hey, let me, you know.
Yeah.
It was more so just like, all right, he's here.
Cool.
Hello.
You know what I mean?
That's interesting.
And trying to get my mom to change, that was a mission in itself.
And I think just, again, we're in that time now where now we're that person.
Yeah.
And now it's like, okay.
I mean, she lived long enough to see you get very successful right so which must
have kind of freaked her out a little bit you think i don't know i honestly don't know because
uh i mean i was working so much and she didn't exactly like watch me on on television or anything
like that she knew i was always working because you know we would talk daily like where are you
at now where are you at now when you coming home hungry. Take me to eat. So she wanted to know when I was, I was like, go and pick her up and take her to eat and tell
her about my week and stuff like that. But I don't think that she knew that it was going to get to
where it is now. It's pretty, I mean, not many people go to where you are now though. I mean,
it's kind of like stratospheric at this point.
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Where do you see it going comedically?
I mean, there is, I talked to you about the idea of going after that German guy's record for the biggest comedian show ever and maybe that.
But is that it?
Or are you happy?
Are you still happy playing, you know, a club with 200 people in it?
I'm very happy with being able to.
I was at the Funny Bone in Columbus, Ohio this past
weekend, and the room seats maybe 250, 300, and I was having a great time. I loved it. You're right
there with the people, but don't get me wrong. I love being goal-driven. So having something to
work towards, how can you outdo yourself? Because a lot of times I think that people get into the
competition of, oh, what's that guy doing? What's that guy doing? What's that guy doing? Whereas can you outdo yourself because you know a lot of times i think that people get into the comp you
know competition of oh what's that guy doing what's that guy doing what's that guy doing
whereas i find myself like all right how can i outdo what i did last time right versus trying
to figure out oh this person's doing this this person's doing that that's why it's like uh people
kept saying you should do a podcast but i'm like that's not me though or you should yeah it's not
me either but you should do this kind of show. You got a certain point.
I think it goes with your driver's licenses.
If you want to avoid getting audited by the taxman or something,
you have to do it.
But as far as what's the next goal,
I think it would be awesome because honestly,
I contemplated retiring at Dodger Stadium.
I thought about retiring because of the fact that I'm like,
can I outdo this is this the
biggest thing i'm ever gonna do and if it is what better way to hey thank you good night yeah i don't
i don't think you should do that look i'm not a therapist but i think that would be a bad idea
i think i would miss it i think i miss it too much i think it would turn on you i think that i mean
look i you don't i don't have to be an expert in the human condition
to watch you do stand-up and go,
that guy has got demons.
That's the only way you get up there.
You don't get up there just,
ah, he's just a guy who goes to Red Lobster.
He goes to Red Lobster with his kid
and they have a nice time.
You go, yeah, he does do that,
but, you know, there's got to be some dark in that fuel there's got to be some
i think it would turn on you the thing i think i'm going to say something to you this is not by way
of advice but it's an observation i spent a long time i was talking to some guys earlier about this
i worked with mick jagger for a little while writing a screenplay and so i was on tour with the Rolling Stones and I watched Keith Richards Keith Richards is
just as happy with the Rolling Stones being that band as he would be if he was in a shit band
playing in a pub in North London as long as he's playing the guitar he doesn't really care nothing
else really matters and I think you have a little bit of that that as long as you're
doing the show like you said it you know you just you just like to get up there you want to get up
there you know i think if you were not doing that i think it would it would come get you i think
you'd find a way to to get nasty it would it something would happen yeah i guess with me that
the problem is is that i'm afraid of all the work that I've put in over these years.
Because this is year 26 now for me.
And I'd be afraid of, like, getting to a certain point.
And then, because it's not every day you could say you saw your peak.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And I don't know if this is the peak.
I don't know if it is.
I mean, it's the highest point I've reached so far.
Right. But is it all about professionalism? Are there ambitions personally? if this is the peak. I don't know if it is. I mean, it's the highest point I've reached so far.
But is it all about professionalism?
Are there ambitions personally?
Would you like to sail around the world?
Would you like to, you know,
get ripped and climb Mount Everest?
Are there goals
outside of performance?
Outside of performance?
I mean, I've done a lot of traveling,
been in a lot of places,
seen a lot of things.
Yeah, but I bet you were always doing a show.
No,
it was always around a show.
I've never taken a vacation
just to take a vacation.
Yeah.
And that blows people away too,
that,
you know,
I do not go anywhere.
Like,
for me,
I don't see a vacation as a vacation.
I'm doing all the things
I don't like doing about comedy
without the comedy.
Yeah.
So what?
I got to get on a plane.
I got to go to the airport. I got to get on some shuttle bus. I got to get on a plane. I got to go to the airport.
I got to get on some shuttle bus.
I got to check into a hotel.
I got to worry about bed bugs.
I got to worry about, you know, what's going to be the situation once we get there.
How are you flying in airplanes?
I'm fine.
Usually we fly private.
Right.
We fly private, but mostly it's for my dogs.
I travel with my dogs.
And so, you know, they keep me happy.
It's my two chihuahuas.
They go anywhere.
They go everywhere.
But yeah, I usually fly with them.
And if they're not going with me, I'll fly commercial.
Right.
But you don't have anything like fear of flying thing or anything like that.
That's interesting.
I feel like I want to try and find out what's kind of making you tick.
And I think you're eluding me.
Not on purpose.
I just kind of put my finger on it, which I think is fantastic.
Oh, nice.
No, I think it's great.
He's going to break him down.
I'm going to break him down right now.
I don't feel broken down.
I feel kind of, I'm quite intrigued by it.
Because I think you're a very singular human being i think
that you must be very strong emotionally are you do you think do you say i think it all depends
setting boundaries i think it's the boundaries are only as good as the person who you're trying
to set them with really you sure because i i think some people like need stricter kind of information.
You could tell them, but I think a lot of times people are just going to do whatever they want
to do. And then so you got to be selective about who you surround yourself with. And you're careful?
I try to be, but there's some people that have, I guess, been grandfathered in because they've
been around so long and you just know like, ah, don't talk about this around this person. Don't
bring up that. And, and, you know, start the stopwatch.
That's an age thing, I think, because I've got that too.
Because, like, young people, if they don't agree, they're not friends.
I'm like, I have friends who are, like, awful.
But what am I going to do?
It's my friend.
You know, it's like, you know that guy's a racist.
He is.
He's a terrible racist.
But what am I going to do?
He's my friend.
It's like that thing, like, Meghan Markle and Prince Harry said, there's a racist. I go, he is. He's a terrible racist. But what am I going to do? He's my friend. It's like that thing, like Meghan Markle and Prince Harry said, there's a racist
in the royal family. And I'm like, no. Yeah. It's a family. If you don't know who the racist
is in your family, it's because it's you. No, you're the racist. It's crazy. It's like
grandpa's going to make a speech. No, he is not going to make a speech.
He's not.
I mean, do you find, because you're Mexican heritage, right?
Yes.
Have you encountered, I don't know, have you encountered prejudice from any angle because of that, do you think?
You know, yes, but I think a lot of times it's like, am I overthinking it?
Am I looking into it more? Am I looking for it?
Versus is there something that's clearly, like, am I clearly being held back or being challenged or being, you know, made to feel less than?
Because, I mean, we've gone to some places where, you know, stereotypically it would not go well.
Right.
And it does.
And I think that, for For example There's been some shows
That we've done
Where
I'm doing meet and greets
Afterwards
And there's people coming up
And they've got
Confederate flags
On the t-shirts
And the tattoos
And you can tell
That you know
They might have
Said a racial slur
Or two in their day
Yeah
But
For some reason
Around me
It's weird to
Like You know You think you're gonna get one thing and then it's like, you know, I'll have people say things like we were eating at a Mexican restaurant before we came to see you and and part of me wants to go
what the hell does that even mean but it's like when you hear what they're saying it's like
they're trying to find a way to connect and be close even though the way that they're saying
what they're saying is just like are you come on and so you want to get offended but you realize
sometimes sometimes people don't know any better. Right. They have the best of intentions,
but they don't know how to convey it.
And so you're like,
all right,
okay.
Rugged people.
Hola.
I'm a big fan of yours.
You know,
I want to be your amigo.
I'm like,
I'm like,
like,
okay,
you are a fan clearly,
but your approach is just,
I can,
I can very much relate. relate people people come up to me
and go oh shrek farty donkey all right i was like why don't please don't do that you're making me
feel weird it's like i don't know shrek all right i do know shrek but i i don't we don't get along
all right do you speak spanish yes i do do you do gigs in Mexico? I recently performed in Mexico, but I don't perform in Spanish.
All right.
It loses a lot in the translation.
And then depending on what part of Latin America you're in, you know, the slang, it's very different.
Right.
Are you interested in it?
Because, you know, Eddie Izzard is a friend of mine.
And Eddie, she performs in lots of different languages.
She performs in lots of different languages.
Like, Eddie will go to France and not even speak French and then learn the act phonetically
and then perform it as an experiment.
That's incredible.
Yeah, it's crazy, right?
But I think you have a little bit of that
in the sense of, because you work with the sound.
Like, the amount of voices you do in a show is crazy.
Like, you can do my voice
I heard you do it in that sitcom that you did for Netflix you did a Scottish accent now that's
actually not bad and nobody can do a Scottish accent and you can do it and I think you have
that phonetic thing doesn't it I think you should try a gig in Spanish I you know what I've I've
done uh I've performed in Spanishanish for 15 20 minutes right and
so i in my head i translated it and trying to you know like all right here we go right and it went
okay you know i've i've uh opened up for uh mexican spanish speaking comics we did we actually made it
a challenge where i opened up for a comic by the name of Franco Escamilla, who's massive in Spanish.
Right.
And I challenged him, all right, now you got to open for me 15 minutes in English.
Did he do it?
Yeah, we both did it.
And we both agreed that we should never do that again.
It was a horrible idea.
Mala idea.
No, I don't know, man.
I'd have loved to have seen it.
It was, you know, it was cool to say that we tried it.
And I'm like, okay.
Because the show that I opened for him in Mexico City, you know, it was cool to say that we tried it. And I'm like, okay.
Because the show that I opened for him in Mexico City at the Arena, he was taping a Netflix special.
And I went out there and it was just like, wow.
Like, it was because I was really, I had to really think about what I was saying.
Right.
And that was messing with me.
Yeah. And I had him open for me at Staples Center when it was still Staples Center.
And again, he was back there and he's just sweating bullets.
And, you know, he's talking to me and he's like sweating bullets, and he's talking to me, and he's like,
Oh my God, oh my goodness.
But the fact that Eddie can do that, I think is incredible.
But I think it's something to do with maybe a musician's brain.
Are you a musician?
My whole family, they're all singers, songwriters, and priests.
It's the weirdest combination.
No, that to me is like, that's the recipe for a stand-up.
A priest and a musician mixed together.
On my father's side, it's priest.
There's priest and mariachis.
No, wait a minute.
If there's a priest on your...
I know.
You see?
Isn't there a problem?
That's why I usually just say mariachi and kind of just,
whatever does everybody else do?
They're just, you know know they're spiritual right so that is so there's the spiritual side and are you
a musician though do you play anything no i don't no i'll get drunk and do karaoke and that's the
extent of it you still get drunk yeah good for you good for you it doesn't get in the way of what
i don't know life i mean for me i can't get drunk or I'm like, things get arresty
or I just hate myself.
You know,
I mean,
I hate the next day
when you're dealing
with a hangover
or if you have a flight
or if you have to be functional.
Right.
That's when it's like,
ugh.
Yeah.
For me,
that next day
is kind of
about three months.
I remember being on the road,
having a good time
and then,
you know,
no big deal. Wake up the next morning, go good time and then you know no big deal
wake up the next morning
go to the airport
you know
it was all good
and then
you know
as soon as I hit 40
that stopped
do you worry about health
because you're a big guy
do you worry about it
yes
and back to that question
about setting goals
and stuff like that
you know
traveling
or whatever it is
yeah
my goal has always been
you know
if I could
just you know
do this
would be to lose weight.
I'd be lying if I didn't say that the weight loss thing.
Really hard.
It's really hard.
I mean, I struggle with it, and I really do.
I struggle with it all the time.
And I get crazy about it sometimes.
How do you approach it, trying to lose weight?
Well, clearly I haven't.
I don't know, man.
You look like you dropped some from it.
I mean, this is not my heaviest.
I was actually, from right now, I was 100 pounds heavier.
What?
Yeah.
Oh, I filled in the couch.
That's crazy.
Well, congratulations on that.
That's an incredible feat.
There was a point in time where a comedian, rest in peace, Ralphie May, and I were very
close in weight.
I remember Ralphie.
Yeah, he was lovely.
We were very close.
But yeah uh during
covid i had an opportunity to get a trainer and then i i'm diabetic so i went to go see a a doctor
and i got put on some you know good medication to control that and that helped out so that
automatically without even really you know having to do much the weight just started coming off
because i wasn't eating out every night yeah because because
we were home yeah yeah that's right did you get it did you get covid yes i got covid one time
i know people that got it four which i think is insane i've had it twice
oh yeah it's uh well not counting now because i i feel like i might i'm kidding
like uh no no no i feel a bit monkey poxy, but I'm okay. COVID wise.
I'm fine.
I've just been checked.
It's fine.
I don't know.
I mean, do you want to drop more?
I do.
And not so much for like, oh, I want to look better, but I'd rather, you know, I'm coming
up on the age now where it's like, yeah, I might want to start.
Yeah.
No, you, you got to think about it for sure.
It's a thing.
That's, that's more so the thing.
Like, okay.
I just, you know, to feel better. Right. So what do you do about it? sure it's a thing that's that's more so the thing like okay i just you know to feel better right so what do you do about it do you fast do you like on Gwyneth Paltrow's bone
soup or something nice i haven't done anything yet to to make that change i think i gotta get it
right here first and then i can do it yeah because i don't want to just start and then be like all
right that didn't work out and And then just feel like I failed.
I think for goal-orientated people like you, I think weight loss is even harder because you try and make a goal for it.
And people say, make a goal, make a goal.
And I don't see it like that.
I think it should be like it's today.
Today is the goal.
I get a lot of people that say, oh, it's a lifestyle change.
It's a change of lifestyle.
Is it a diet or am I, you know, what do you mean lifestyle?
No, it's just today.
It's like, you know what, am I going to have a candy bar now or no?
All right, I won't have it now.
That's it.
That's all.
I mean, that's what I had to do to stop drinking.
Because the idea, even now, I haven't had a drink in 31 years.
But the idea of not ever drinking again, I'm not prepared to make that commitment.
You know, I just like, I'm not
going to have one today.
And that is very impressive because I'm sure you've
been put in a lot of situations where the alcohol
was right in front of you. I live
in Scotland, man.
It's like you
live in Red Lobster. You open the window.
It's like, it's right there.
There you go, buddy. At eight, you'll have something to drink.
No, I don't want it.
Oh, come on.
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Have you ever played Scotland?
No, I haven't.
But actually, I will be playing it very soon.
Really?
Yes.
It'll be the first time.
I know I'm doing the UK.
I'm doing London.
And I'm going to be doing Glasgow, Edinburgh.
It will be one of those.
It's going to be one of them.
I know it's coming up.
It may be both.
It may be both.
I know it's coming up.
I want to come see you.
I want to come and see you in front of a Scottish crowd.
They'll eat you up.
They'll love you.
You'll kill over there.
I've heard of all the festivals and all the comedy shows that have happened there,
and I'm just like, how have I not gone?
Well, I think because you were successful enough, you didn't have to.
I mean, the Edinburgh Festival is about, really for a lot of people,
it's about getting started.
So if you're doing well in the United States, it wouldn't be on your radar.
If you were an upcoming comic in the UK.
But it would be more so like to just get my foot in the door and at least, you know, like, all right, you know.
For example, like with Montreal.
Montreal was always like, you know.
Yeah, the Just for Laughs festival.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You've done that, right?
Yes, multiple times.
Right.
And so it's like, you know, even now where it's like, I don't have to, but I like going because then I can catch up with a lot of comics I haven't seen in a long time.
See, I do the same thing.
So it's more of like, hey, it's a reunion.
So who do you hang with?
Who do you like and who do you rate in the comedy world now?
Who do you like seeing do stand up?
You know what?
My favorite comedians are comics who don't do what I do, which is basically like comics that get very controversial,
political,
comics that touch on topics that like,
I've intentionally avoided in order to maintain the brand.
It's a stylistic choice.
I mean, Gaffigan's like that as well.
Jim Gaffigan,
I don't know if you know Jim,
but Jim is like,
he's as cranky and cussy as any other comedian you know,
but he said,
he keeps his show totally clean. He any other comedian you know. But he said, I made a show.
He keeps his show totally clean.
He keeps it, you know, family friendly.
Leno is the same.
I mean, Leno can cuss like a sailor, you know, anytime you.
Oh, I've seen someone scratch one of his cars.
He can cuss.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
But he doesn't do that in his act.
No, he keeps it.
I wish I could. I keep trying and then just, one or two slip out every time.
I remember I was talking to Jim.
Jim Jeffries is one of my favorites.
He's a terrific guy.
Jim Jeffries, Bill Burr, Tom Segura.
These are all great guys.
Chappelle.
I mean, you know, I love these performers.
They're incredible.
I was doing a Jim Jeffries show, and after the show was over,
we're in the bathroom, and we're just standing there.
I go, Jim, can I just tell you something, man?
I go, I envy your freedom on stage to say anything you want
and feel good about it.
He looks at me and he goes, I envy your money.
I'm like, all right.
Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, that's fair.
I think that's fair.
Touché, my friend.
Do you ever think about doing a show where you could just unleash?
From time to time, I will, you know, I won't keep it as squeaky clean as, let's say, Jim Gaffigan would.
But, you know, in my set, I will, I do cuss in my show.
I mean,
I'll do a show.
Yeah,
it doesn't come across
like you're doing a clean show.
It's,
but it's not every other word.
You know,
there's some comics
that it's like a tick.
It's just,
it comes out every two seconds,
but I'm very selective.
So if I'm telling a story
where there's a big statement
to be made
and I insert it there,
then it's like,
okay,
you know,
use it for what it's for and it's impactful
it's like oh he doesn't use that a lot
he dropped his F-bomb card
but it's not
I think you're right because then it's got some
power if you use it all the time it just
doesn't go to any power. Do you ever go
and see comics
like I know some people
hang out in the comedy store and I've never been able
to hang like that I can't really do it you know do you hang with other comedians? You know in the comedy store. I've never been able to hang like that.
I can't really do it.
You know, do you hang with other comedians?
You know what?
The comedy store is one of those places that in the beginning,
I always felt like it was super clicky, and I didn't feel like I fit in.
There was always these groups of comics, and I just like,
ah, should I?
It felt really off.
Yeah, it's scary.
It's like high school, isn't it?
Exactly.
I hated it. Thank you. I got a chance to perform there recently, and I had a great time. It was really felt really off. Yeah, it's scary. It's like high school, isn't it? Exactly. I hated it.
Thank you.
I got a chance to perform there recently,
and I had a great time.
It was really, really cool.
Yeah, because you're one of the biggest comics
in the fucking world.
That's why.
Everybody's like,
oh, yeah, it's fine.
I don't kiss your ass.
It was different now, yeah.
But yeah, I was never one to hang out.
I didn't want to hang out at the club.
I wanted to just go in, do my thing.
If there was somebody
that I enjoyed watching,
I'd watch them,
but then let me just leave
to not get caught up
in things.
Yeah, I think that's
very smart
because the,
I think also
it's very stand-up comedian
to be honest
because I think
they are solitary animals.
We're kind of
lone predators really.
And the idea of the,
we'd all be,
it's when people say
the Hollywood community is full of evil, twisted people. And the idea of that we'd all be... It's when people say,
the Hollywood community is full of evil, twisted people.
I'm like, have you ever been to Hollywood?
There's no fucking community in show business.
Are you kidding me?
All these people are out for themselves.
Like, oh yeah, we all get together and make a decision.
No, we don't.
There's no uniformity of thought here, I don't think.
Where would you go to live? Because you still live down in the old neighborhood right yeah still in long beach i uh i live literally four minutes
away from where i basically you know grew up i live very close to my my old neighborhood is that
manageable because you got to be highly recognizable down there and people getting
well i guess it's la you're in your car a lot
you know what it's i'm close to where i used to live but it's not where i used to live so it's
very you know it's different and and if i think if people know where you're at that's that's one
thing uh people do see me driving around you know and i freak with the same you know starbucks or
wherever you know i'm i'm going it's like, you know, like, hey, it's him.
Do you ever get uncomfortable with that? Because it's like every time you go out,
especially now with the way phones are, you're on. It's like any mistake you make, any little bit of road rage, any picking your nose in the car, any like, you know, passing gas
in the line at Starbucks. I'm not saying I've ever done that, but I might have,
you know, everybody's going to record you. We got good days and we have bad days. If I'm not feeling good, I try not to go
out, but it doesn't mean that I'm not going to have a moment of, of weakness where I'm, I'm,
you know, getting upset over the way someone's driving or, or, or somebody messing with you at
the, cause I have people that will mess with meally at the drive-thru And I'm trying to maintain
And it's hard sometimes
Because people want to challenge you
They want to get a rise out of you
Well, yeah, because
And they're holding your food hostage
I'm like, I already paid for this
Can I just get my thing?
Say, hey, say hi to my
Say hi to my sister
Say hi to my sister, man
She's your biggest fan
Like, hi, sister
Give me the food
Your brother has my food
And if I don't say hi
He's not going to give me my food.
Hey, may I throw in some ranch while I'm talking to your sister? So then it's like,
now it's like a negotiation, like trying to negotiate to get my food. So I got to.
Don't you have staff? You should have staff.
But see, that's the thing though, is that I don't want to, I don't want to have to rely on staying
in my own little box and sending people out to the real world to go get me things. I don't,
then that feels like I'm disconnected.
I'd rather go out there and if nothing else, it'll be a story.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I'd rather, I'd rather, I still want to live.
The only time I get concerned is if, if I have my dogs with me, which is most of the time.
And people.
Do you have your dogs with you today?
I was going to bring them.
Oh man.
I was going to bring them.
They've been on a lot of TV shows.
You have Chihuahuas? Yes. I have German Shepherds. They've been on a lot of TV shows. You have Chihuahuas?
Yes.
I have German Shepherds.
You have real dogs.
They're pretty good, actually.
You can't put them in your hoodie.
I can put my dogs in my hoodie.
But you can actually get your, you could send a German Shepherd out to buy you a hoodie.
Like, yes, okay, which color would you like?
I shall return presently with the correct change.
I love that you gave that dog the accent.
It's German.
What accent do you have?
I don't know.
Come on, you have a voice for everything.
You've got to have a voice for your dog.
Yeah, yeah, I do.
You don't have to share it with me.
I don't want to be the guy holding your food in the drive-thru.
No, I have, you know, I'll do a little, like, you know, the, hey, daddy, I want this or that.
But they don't have, like, accent, like, ole, papa, why don't you put me in your home?
Right, right.
It's not like, I didn't make my dogs.
I feel bad now.
I feel like I forced you into that.
Older Mexican, my dogs.
No.
What chihuahuas are, they're Mexican dogs, aren't they?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, did you have them growing up?
From the age of 12 until now, I've always had a Chihuahua.
How long do Chihuahuas live?
You know what?
Small dogs live a long time.
Yeah, they go for a while.
They live a long time.
I had one Chihuahua that lived to be almost 19.
Wow.
My oldest right now, she's going to be, she's right around 17.
Okay.
And the other one's 12.
Okay.
So, you know, like German Shepherds, 12, that's kind of.
The bigger the dog.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's why I won't have like, I like big dogs, but you can't, you got to, they just break your heart.
So I have two German Shepherds and a Jack Russell.
Okay.
Which is.
Very different.
It's like an Irish Chihuahua.
Nice.
Like, what the fuck are you looking at?
You fucking bastard.
You fucking idiot.
But they are crazy.
Are your dogs aggressive?
They're aggressive whenever someone comes near me.
If someone approaches me like quick, like, hey.
That's why any of the, oh my God.
They react to that.
So that's why you keep them in your hoodie.
In the hoodie or in the car and stuff like that.
So whenever somebody approaches the car, I'm concerned more so for my dogs, not so much for me.
Yeah.
You don't travel with security or anything like that?
Maybe on the road, right?
It depends on where I'm at.
When I was in Mexico City performing, I had four armed guards, which I thought was excessive.
Well, things can get a little kidnappy down there sometimes.
You know what I mean?
It's like if you're a high-profile individual.
They can get you here too, though.
Yes, they can.
It's not like a kidnapper can't say, let's not talk about this.
It's freaking me out.
I don't know why I even brought this up.
I'm fucking talking about kidnapping.
Now I'm worried about kidnappers.
I had a break-in in December.
They broke into my house.
And I thought my place was like solid.
I would fucking move.
If someone broke into my house, I'd fucking leave.
And it's one of those things
where people say,
oh, well, what did they take?
I go, they took my peace of mind
is what they took.
Yeah, okay.
You know, I had a giant,
I still have it,
giant fence that surrounds the property,
multiple camera systems,
a security system.
Two chihuahuas.
And still, you know,
I'm lucky that they weren't home.
Yeah.
I had them with me.
So I was like, okay,
just look at the bright side.
But as far as traveling with security,
you know, it depends on, i don't think that i need an actual like team of people but it's always good
to have somebody there to just be the go-between where like if a bunch of people approach hey okay
he'll take a picture can you get them all in line like folks please get together form a line he'll
be happy to take a photo right keep the peace, you know what I mean, before it gets chaotic.
Because if I get people coming at me from every angle, and then again, if I have my dogs with me, I'm only worried about my dogs.
Are you romantically involved right now?
I mean, I'm not going to lie.
No, no.
I was in a relationship for almost 13 years.
You know, I'm still good friends with my ex.
Right.
How long ago did that end?
Been a few years now.
About four, four, five.
It's time, man. You know? Yeah, it's time. Get out of there. We're cool. Right. How long ago did that end? Been a few years now. About four, four or five. It's time, man.
Yeah, it's time.
Get out there.
We're cool.
Yeah.
I mean, it's time.
It's time you get out.
Oh, start going out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've gone out a couple times.
I got a nice girl for you in Scotland.
Oh, nice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've gone out on a few dates
and it's just like, okay.
And I'm like, I'm good.
Yeah.
I'm good.
I'm going to go home
and set my thermostat
to whatever temperature I want
and I'm going to play with my dogs. I'm'm gonna fart and just call it a night because i can you can
do that when you're married too yeah no i don't want to be obligated to to do things that don't
make me feel like a better person why the fuck should you get away with it you know i'm just
making up my mind that i don't i don't think want to, I don't want to do the relationship thing anymore.
It's just, I'm okay.
That's fine.
At first, when I, when I first broke up, oh man, I was just like, I want, I want someone.
I need, I've never been alone.
Right.
And, you know, it took some time to get used to that and appreciate it.
Do you have a space, do you think, in your life if someone blows your mind to come in?
I'm not going to say never or no, but I haven't met that, you know, that hasn't happened yet.
Right. And it has to be somebody that's on board with what I do.
Well, I think it's going to be, you know, anyone who meets you is going to know what you do. It's
not like you go, and so what do you do, Gabriel? Do you have a, where do you work?
But, you know, even in the past, you know, when I was, I've been doing this now 26 years,
so I've had a couple of relationships where they knew what I did, and I tried to explain,
hey, look, you think it's cool and it's fun right now, but it's going to get crazier.
Yeah.
I'm going to be working more.
There's going to be more opportunities, and I don't want to say no to potential opportunities because you're going to miss me or this or that.
No, no, no, no.
I get it.
I get it.
And unfortunately, it got to a point where there was a lot of resentment.
I remember I had gotten a deal with Netflix for a sitcom.
And when I told her about it, she goes, well, I'm happy for you,
but I'm not happy for us.
Why?
She says,
because that's just more time
that you're away.
And I'm just like,
all right.
Now I'm feeling bad for...
Bad about getting a sitcom deal?
Getting a sitcom deal.
Yeah, that's not so good.
And so it's like...
Yeah.
You know?
See, my wife,
if I said I got a deal with Netflix,
she'd say,
how much is it? And I'd tell her, she'd go, that's so great. I'm so proud of you. So there are people out there that are, you know, going to be very cool with you getting a Netflix deal.
But then too, I don't know who to trust, you know, because they're meeting this one right here versus trying to be a mystery. But it's who you are.
I remember once when I was in, I can't remember, I was dating some girl years and years ago.
I've been married forever.
But years ago, somebody said to me, she's just gone out with you because of who you are.
And I'm like, but that's who I am.
So, of course, she's going.
I don't want her to go out with me because I'm somebody else.
So, I don't think it's not that big a deal.
What if you find like a female comedian?
Oh, God, no.
No.
God, no.
Why?
Because then she would understand the game and, you know, no?
Okay, man, I'm sorry.
No, man, I don't be sitting there at the dinner table
and she's trying to tag my shit.
I'm like, no, no, no, no, we're sorry. No, man, I don't want to be sitting there at the dinner table and she's trying to tag my shit. I'm like, nah, nah, nah, we're good.
Oh, I feel awful now.
You know, if you said that, ugh.
I feel bad, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
But I do think, you seem to me, I don't know you very well, we've talked a couple of times,
but you seem to me, and you come across as a very warm, loving human being and maybe that's what human beings
are like when they're not in relationships maybe they're better I don't know I do remember I
talking to do you know the Broadway performer Kristen Chenoweth I know the name she's very
talented big star on Broadway and I remember her talking about she she was very committed to being single.
And she was talking about what she does requires rest and solitude.
And a relationship doesn't afford her.
Do you think that's true?
I think it depends on who you're with.
Well, yeah. And then also, too, because in the beginning, it's always great.
It's always great in the beginning.
You're both trying to make each other as happy as possible.
You're both giving it everything.
And then little by little, you know, one starts giving more and one starts giving less.
And then that's when you start getting that divide.
So I think depends on where you're at, where you get that peace.
All right.
All right.
Because towards the end of mine, it was just, you know, it was so.
Oh, when they go bad, they go bad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like fish.
Once it goes off, it ain't coming back.
It ain't coming back.
No, I know.
But I do miss that whole being close to someone, having, you know, being able to just, you know, sit on the couch.
You put your leg on somebody.
Yeah.
Like, hey, you know, that, I mean, stuff like that.
I do miss simple little things little
car ride well you know i think it what it is is that it has some whoever for me anyway because
i've been in a one successful relationship and a bunch of relationships that weren't so successful
and it seems to me that the person has to be your friend like that like your partner has to be your
friend too.
And if you say,
hey, I just got a deal at Netflix I'm really excited about,
that they would be really excited for you too, genuinely.
And if it was something that was going to get in the way,
you go, well, I'm going to have to come to the set now.
You know what I mean?
And it's like, it's to be part of it.
But sometimes, do you find it easy to share your success with someone who's close?
I used to try to share as much of it as I could. And then for some reason, it felt like I was
bragging through their eyes. It didn't feel like I was sharing anymore. I felt like,
am I coming across like I'm bragging to this person? Is it sharing? How are they looking at
it? Because the good for yous and way to go started you know it was less and less and less yeah and it was more so like am i making this
person feel bad because i continue to like things started just snowballing where it's like oh my god
and then this happened today and then this happened today And then with success comes like opportunities to meet people, to do different things and experiences.
And you're just like, wow.
And the only person I was able to totally just share things with was my mom.
And she was never going to look at it like, you know, and I couldn't, there's no way I could brag to my mom.
Oh, look at you, world traveler.
Look at you.
Can't even pick up a phone to call his, Uy. Look at you. Oh, my God.
Can't even pick up a phone to call his mom.
You know, it was.
Oh, you listen.
You don't have to explain that mom thing to me.
I totally understand.
But sharing your, what you do with people, I found that I had to cut back because I was not making people happy by sharing.
Yeah. And I'm just like, well, you know, are people happy for me?
Not happy?
You know, it just felt weird.
I mean, success is a weird thing.
It's that thing Bette Midler said.
Not everybody,
one of the most disappointing things about success
is finding out that not everybody is happy for you.
That actually...
That is very true.
It's a little different.
You, sir, are a joy.
I really love talking to you.
And whatever you've got going on...
I would tell you, but I don't want to feel bad about it.
No, I think whatever you got going on is cool.
I would tell you, but you know how it is.
You know, it's so...
Oh, God.
I can't tell you.
See, I've lapsed into German dog accent now
in order to disguise how I truly feel.
It's been great talking to you, man.
Continued success.
I hope you get that record
of the giantest, biggest thing in the world.
I think it will be.
I got to see what that next big goal is going to be.
But until then, I'm just going to.
I think take play a state. You know, like if you go into a stadium, I think the will be. I got to see what that next big goal is going to be. But until then, I'm just going to. I think play a state.
You know, like if you go into a stadium,
I think the next thing is to start with a small state.
Say like I'm going to play Rhode Island.
Oh, my God.
And it's the whole state.
It's the whole state.
The whole state has to be there.
And then you can work your way up to Texas or something.
But start in Rhode Island, just a small state.
And then, you know, see how it goes.
You're good, Matt.
Good.
Thank you.
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