Joy, a Podcast. Hosted by Craig Ferguson - Kevin Heffernan & Steve Lemme

Episode Date: April 30, 2024

Meet Kevin Heffernan & Steve Lemme, two fifths of the funniest comedy troupe in America called Broken Lizard! They are responsible for hilarious films such as Beerfest, Super Troopers, Super Troopers 2 and the tv show Tacoma FD. Don’t miss Craig, Kevin and Steve just straight up riffing for an hour, laughs guaranteed, EnJOY! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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See you out there. Thecraigfergususonshow.com My name is Craig Ferguson. The name of this podcast is Joy. I talk to interesting people about what brings them happiness. Broken Lizard are an anarcho-terrorist comedy organisation that have been anarcho-terrorising comedy-ing for many, many years. They have made such hilarious films as Beer Fest, and Super Troopers, and Super Troopers 2,

and the TV show Tacoma FD. Please welcome two-fifths of the funniest comedy troupe in America, Kevin Heffernan and Steve Lemme. comedy troupe in America, Kevin Heffernan and Steve Lemme. So we've got monkeypox. So you've got monkeypox

then, Kevin. You have monkeypox? Yeah, sure. No, no, in the past. I'm going to have it. Now, Kevin, you're doing something that's great

because I was like, no, I never, I answered you earnestly. No, I've never had monkeypox. Yes, and. He just yes, and-ed you. He's yes, and? Yeah, yeah, come on.

He's still, because he's still following the rule. Yeah, come on. Because he's still following the rule. Yeah, come on. But, Broken, listen, were you guys, were you improv? No. You weren't like, hi, everybody, give us the name of a town. No, we were not good at that.

We did one, like, we were sketch, but then we performed. We tried to do improv. We were good at it. We did a show, like, we used to perform at the Duplex. Where's that? Christopher Street in Sheridan Square. In West Village. West Village.

Okay, is that a gay club? It is. Yeah, I think I know it. It's like a cabaret club. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know it. And it would be like cabaret shows, it would be... Downstairs. Downstairs.

Right. And it would be drag shows like every day of the week. And we would have one night. Did you ever work in drag just to get an extra night no no no i think that they took us they were the only club in new york that would take us this is the first spot we ever performed right and i think they took us because it was a bunch of us guys went in there to like see if we could get in there i think they thought we were a gay sketch group right and so they took us and they gave us what three mondays yeah yeah monday night terrible and uh but we were, and that first show, all of our recently graduated college friends.

What year was this? This is 91? 91, 92. 91. All right, okay. Because I was in New York about, we were talking before about, my first ever stand-up appearance in America was at the Comic Strip. Yeah.

On 82nd Street. Well, not 82nd Street. It's on 2nd Avenue the Comic Strip on 82nd Street. Well, not 82nd Street. It's on 2nd Avenue, I think. At 82nd Street. But it's around... That area is sort of, you know,

all mixed together. Lemmy used to haunt that area. You grew up there, right? I grew up on East 86, yeah. Yeah. All right. That must have been tough.

Dude. On the way to school, like, doormen could attack you and stuff. Old ladies might come out and give you a snack you know

let me tell you something Craig what I don't appreciate is that you're already on his side no I'm not on his side I just happen to know that I live in that neighborhood you live there now

yeah and it's a rough and tumble neighborhood New York City has changed a lot it's a hard it's a hard scrub on his side do you know what it used to be called

and it still is Yorkville yeah Yorkville Do you know what it used to be called? And it still is. Yorkville. Yorkville. Yorkville is what it was called. No, come on now. You're going too far, Kevin. That's just hurtful. Yeah, but true.

You know what? No, not Dorkville. Well, but that was also farther east, right? That's farther east. Like on the river. Yeah. You know where Daniel Day-Lewis in that movie. Started the 84th Street Gang.

Yeah, but it was still a good neighborhood when that movie was set. Sure. It was farmland. I'm about to walk. Did you ever watch that movie? You know when Daniel Day-Lewis touches his eye with the knife? Yeah, and it clinks? Yeah.

What's that about? He's got a glass eye. Oh, yeah? Can you do that if you have a glass eye? You famously have a glass eye. I do have a glass eye and monkey pox. See, he assented me again. See's that about? He's got a glass eye. Oh, yeah? Can you do that? If she has a glass eye? You famously have a glass eye. I do have a glass eye and monkey pox. See? He yes-eyed me.

See that, Steve? I was about to say, no, he didn't. Yeah. But you never had to do the yes-eye. You guys wrote your stuff down, right? Yeah. Yeah. We were terrified of improv.

But we did. So what I'm saying is we performed at the Duplex for a while, but one time we did a joint show with a group called Scared Scriptless. Right, that was the improv team, an improv group that we were friends with. I'm already angry at them. Scared Scriptless was the name of the group. I'm already angry. I'm kind of like, yeah, fuck you.

Those guys are listening right now. They're like, god damn you. Yeah, they're listening in their dental offices as they're working on. Ladies and gentlemen, Scared Scriptless. Okay, hi. Hi, Scared Scriptless. Okay, hi. Hi, Scared Scriptless. Does anyone have the name of a disease? Yeah.

Monkeypox. Monkeypox. Okay, Monkeypox in Phoenix. But the thing is, they would have you on stage with them. And I've done it here where you go to the Groundlings or whatever. You do an improv show. And they're so much better than you are. Yeah.

They're so much better. Oh, the Groundlings. Because they're do an improv show, and they're so much better than you are. Yeah. They're so much better. Oh, the Groundlings. Because they're skilled. That's a different game. Yeah, but I mean, it's... Groundlings, UCB, all that stuff, that's real. Yeah. That's different. It's the improv muscle.

We don't have that muscle. But we did a very basic... And we were performing for an audience. We did the Mad Libs version. That is funny. Yeah. Where you tell the story, and then you're like, and then I went and I saw him behind the,

and somebody's like, Dairy Queen. And then he started improvising about being behind the Dairy Queen. So let's say you're in a gay club in the West Village, and someone shouts Dairy Queen. So what do you do? Because you don't want to be offensive, but at the same time you can't run away from the improv. So what do you do? I think you't want to be offensive, but at the same time, you can't run away from the improv. I think you have to start milking dicks.

Milking dicks, right? You went too far. I did. You went too far. See, you said dicks. I was too far. I know that this is a wholesome podcast. Well, I don't know if that's necessarily true. Well, it should start wholesome, right? Because it's about joy. Well, joy in the sense that it's, you know, you just need it. You don't need to overformat these things.

Sure. In other words, like people say, okay, my podcast is the five things that you've used to clip your nails over the years. You just need a loose umbrella. Yeah. It's a nice loose umbrella. It's called joy. I mean, it's like an almond joy. Do you know what I mean? It's no big fucking deal. You mean, it's like an almond joy. Do you know what I mean?

It's no big fucking deal. You know, it's like maybe there's a nut and I can't remember. Well, speaking of nut and joy, I enjoy saying the word dick. Oh, okay. Well, that seems fair enough. I don't want to get in the way of that. But I don't want to abuse that. I want to keep it clean.

Yeah, I think that, you know, you lose a lot of people when you start with that. Do you guys ever, like, because you don't work. Do you guys ever, because you don't work, do you still work live? We haven't done a live show in five years, I think so, yeah. I was going to say, you guys are really kind of like houseguests now. You work for the corporate board. We do. We work for the big companies now.

Yeah. No, but since we had this TV show, Tacoma FD, we hadn't done that was the last time, I think 2019 was the last live show we did. We did live shows to promote Tacoma FD we hadn't done that's the last time I think 2019 was the last live show we did we did live shows to promote Tacoma FD yeah yeah yeah but since then we just haven't been on the road that's still going Tacoma FD isn't it uh no well no probably not yeah we got uh we were on this this joke network true tv you ever hear that network uh I heard and they've kind of fallen apart a little bit uh but then the show moved over to netflix um like a month ago you're not familiar with that um and it's had a really nice uh new life there oh so you got that sweet netflix reboot thing yeah so it landed there in january and we were like the

top 10 for like a month and then um because you've always the broken list has always been like the people's comedy do you know what i mean it's because you guys, you even crowdfunded a movie, as I recall. We did. We crowdfunded Super Troopers 2. That's right. Yeah. I think that's the last time I spoke to you guys. Probably, yeah.

Super Troopers 2. And Jay, I think I spoke to him during that promotional tour as well. Yeah. Yeah, we raised five million bucks, crowdfunded five million bucks. And how much did the movie make? I don't know. I mean, that was a portion of the thing, but we don't get any of that.

So you still... We just get the accolades, the glory. Well, that's still good, though. Accolades are good. Don't pay the bills, man. No, I know. You know what I mean? No, that's why I don't go.

That's why I have no accolades. I just go for cash. It's like, oh, yeah, joy, podcast, sure. At some time, you learn cash. It's like, oh yeah, joy, podcast, sure. At some time you learn that. It's like, yeah, hey, how you doing? You've got to have a podcast. We do. We had a podcast for a long time, and then we started doing this TV show, and we stopped.

And then when we finished filming the TV show, we did one of those things that everyone's doing now, where you do the companion piece. You get the episode, and then you talk about the episode. And so we did that. I don't care for that. You that you don't like that no i like to go deep diving yeah but i don't see i don't think it is i was having a conversation with uh do you guys know an actor called kevin bacon yeah all right so so kevin bay actually lives in new york yeah yeah yeah married to a very famous kind of new york, sort of a Kiri Sedgwick, Sedgwick family in New York. But I see him on a farm all the time.

He's playing like guitar to his goats and stuff. On social media. I saw that. On social media, he's always on the... Playing guitar to his goats. He and Kira came to visit me and my wife in Scotland. Oh, really? Yeah. And he is very,

because we live in the country, and they're very country people. They know things like, he would go, oh, that's a bird over there. I was like, really? He's like, yeah, and that's a squirrel right there.

I was like, you know all the things. That's more than you know. Yeah. I just shoot him. I just shoot him. But he was talking about that deep dive stuff. I got you. And we were talking about it.

He said, oh, yeah, he had a show coming out, and it was quite a serious show because Kevin's a proper actor. He's not like, oh, sure. Sure. He knows how to do it. He's not like us. He's a proper kind of grown-up what the hell type actor do you know what i mean like hey these guys are coming over here actor like i have a feeling actor he's one of them yeah that was really good though thanks man the only thing is that's all i could do i

can't do like two sentences that's fine yeah but just one that's fine like i can do like two sentences. That's fine. But just one. That's fine. I can do like half a sentence of Morgan Freeman from Shawshank Redemption. Oh, let's hear it. Now, what Andy said. Oh, that's not bad. That's all right. I can't do one. Andy Dufresne. Andy Dufresne.

Andy Dufresne. I'll see you in Mexico. Nah, I don't think you got it. I don't think you got it. See, I shouldn't have. You went too far. Dufresne I'll see you in Mexico nah I don't think you got it I don't think you got it see I shouldn't have you went too far the first one was good

yeah yeah the first one was great we were all like okay it's happening yeah it's legit now I was talking to Kevin Bacon because he was doing

this series show and he said I can't remember I think it was Amazon or something they were making him do all this social media stuff

at the time so it's like he's got a series scene but he has to do it in real time. So he's tweeting out, oh, yeah, this day it was really cold. And we had, you know, everyone was snuggled in their trailer. And he's like, my whole job is to try and get people to believe I'm somebody else. And then on the other side of the coin, they're trying to get me to believe that I'm Kevin Bacon playing dress up with my friends. Which, of course, that's what acting is.

So I agree with him. It ruins the fourth wall. I guess, but I think comedy is a little different. And also, our job has always been, or the thing we've always done is create worlds and environments where it's a bunch of guys hanging out, having a good time. Yeah. And the audience, you want them to be a part of that crowd. Right. Feel bunch of guys hanging out, having a good time. Yeah. And the audience, you want them to be a part of that crowd. Right.

I feel like they're hanging out with you. And so I think that that, that's why these companion things seem to work well for us. Cause then it makes you feel like they're hanging out with you. Well, that's what I want to, that's what I like about Broken Lizards. I always want to like,

I feel like I'm hanging out with you and I, and I feel like not only am I hanging out with you, but I'm slightly better than you guys. You know what I mean? Like I'm not going to fuck up as much as you guys are going to fuck up. Which I think is the appeal of the truth. We're going to make the bad choices. You're going to make the bad choices. I'm going to go, okay guys, I'm going home now.

I'll remind you of a story that I'm pretty sure we told the last time we saw you was that when we were at the, Kevin and I were doing a live show at the Montreal Comedy Festival just for laughs. I'm familiar, yeah. And we had worked out this incredible- This was like eight or nine years ago. Yeah. Yeah.

Pre-Tacoma FD. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We worked out a terrific routine where he was going to come out and say hello to the audience, and I was going to say it in French. Oh, nice. And we had a nice little bit worked out. But before that, we went over to the International House of Comedy, which you were hosting. And you and Eddie Izzard came out and did the best version of it.

He actually spoke French. Well, Eddie speaks French. I don't. Exactly. Well, you know what Eddie was doing? Because I found out later on. He was fucking with me. I was saying stuff.

I don't know if you guys speak French. I was saying stuff. And then he was saying whatever he wanted in French to the French-Canadians. He was like, this guy is an idiot. I don't know why I have to do this it's a contractual obligation yeah and I'm like good evening everyone and welcome to he was just being a dick to me so it's very funny we've been friends for a long time and he does speak French that that was the bit though right that you yeah you would say something and he would mess it up or whatever and like or you you know and that the bit that we had was the same exact one.

And you guys started doing it on the stage and we were sitting next to each other. And we were with our mutual friend, Phil Catone. Oh yeah, of course. And we looked at each other and we're like, holy shit, we're doing this exact same bit an hour from now in another place. Yeah, but you could still do it. Did you do it? We did it, yeah. Yeah, of course you did.

Because it's not going to be the same audience. It's not going to leave. Because I think we were still on stage when your show started, though. We were in like the, and we were also like in the Rathskeller or something. There was some like underground heavy metal club or something. We were in the dungeon. There were skulls on the wall. It was a different crowd.

A lot of piercings. For me, Montreal was better when you did that stuff. I started out in Montreal after the comic strip in New York. when you did that stuff. I started out in Montreal after the comic strip in New York. But Montreal, back then, it had an underground kind of vibe. It was really kind of cool.

When did you guys first get together? We went to college together. We went to college at Colgate University in upstate New York. And that was in the late 80s. And then we started the comedy group there. And it's still like five guys right it was uh then it now it is then it was like i don't know 12 people or something right and then people you know die obviously attrition yeah it's like you

know these things happen yeah man can't make an omelet without breaking a few were you killed isn't that what you were talking about? Yeah, I thought maybe it was like, you know, I thought maybe it was just like age. But no, you're talking about, you know, two men enter, one man leaves. Yeah, this was serious back then. Was it always just dudes? Was it always a sausage party? No, we had women. Oh, yeah?

But then I guess they got tired of us or something. We had people quit. We had people write us letters that they were quitting because of how immature we were yeah like we had one guy who quit he's like you guys and your mom jokes you give me a headache for every show and i can't be with you anymore he couldn't handle the mom jokes that doesn't sound like someone that's got a career in comedy ahead of him probably true yeah i mean because for the best even if you don't like someone else's jokes, shut up. Yeah. Because, you know, they might have a show in a couple of years.

Yeah. And then they'll say, hey, what happened to Jordan? Let's get him on to play the cop. Yeah. You want to be in a movie? Yeah. Was that Jordan? It was Jordan. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. But that's quite a long time for you guys to be. So the five that are in the Broken Lizard now, all still original members, right? Yeah. That's a long time for you guys to be. So the five that are in the Broken Lizard now, all still original members, right? That's a long time for guys to be friends. A long time, yeah. I mean, are you friends? Or is it kind of like the Rolling Stones?

You just get together for work and then... Because I don't believe, until I saw you, Steve, today outside when you were driving in, I don't believe I've ever talked to both of you guys separately. I always see you together. I guess that's true. We travel in packs. We're a husband and wife team. We talk about this all the time.

Have you ever toured with an opener, right? Oh, sure. On Thursdays when we would go to cities, we'd be walking together in the airport and eating a meal together and a meal together and, you know, go out to dinner that night. You know, everything's great. By Sunday, like we're like 50 feet apart.

I think that's healthy. Yeah. I think that's good. I mean, it's like understanding. And also, I think over time, if you can get past the first, it's like marriage. You get past the first 20 years, you'll be all right. Yeah. You know, after that.

But now all guys have their own families and whatever. Yeah, so now it is we come together, not just for work. I mean, we'll come together for socializing and, you know, fun stuff. But that, I mean, given the fact that you guys have been through the economic ups and downs of a career in show business, like you didn't like form the Apple company and then Yoko Ono and all that. You didn't have all that. Right.

Or maybe you did. No, I mean, I guess we didn't. I was about to yes and. Oh, you were? Oh, yeah. There's a Yoko Ono? Yeah, I was about to yes and. I've lost it now.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. But did Yoko Ono ever get involved with Broken Lens? No, no, no. Okay. And we've never had

a Yoko Ono figure in our world. We've had a Yoko Ono. Oh, Yoko Ono. That's good. Wow. That's okay. I think that's maybe

a write-down i should go yeah no no i should leave it it is you know it's going to be downhill from it's a mid-level job well no but at the improv clubs that's when they would you know turn off the lights the show's over that one and blackhead the craig ferguson fancy Rascal Stand-Up Tour continues throughout the United States in 2024. For a full list of dates and tickets, go to thecraigfergusonshow.com slash tour. See you out there. Meet the real woman behind the tabloid headlines in a personal podcast that delves into the life

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Was there a thing where you're like, oh, we want to be like Python or we want to be like, uh, I don't know, it would be the other comedy trip at the time. It was so, I mean, we watched Python when we were kids. Right. So definitely, I think maybe our senses of humor were formed that way. I think everybody who's walking the earth now is formed by Python is like, it's like a game changer. It's like, uh, I don't know, Pythagoras or something. Yeah like it's like a game changer it's like

I don't know Pythagoras or something it's like a whole set it's the bar yeah but I think that was the inspiration film wise

like I think you know they were obviously guys who were a comedy group who made films yeah and you know I think a lot of the comedy groups aspired to

you know TV shows and things like that but we Python was a TV show no they were yeah yeah yeah but I mean I think you know we kind of went to the film world Well, it definitely was a TV show. No, they were, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, I mean, I think, you know,

we kind of went to the film world. We grew up with, like, also, like, early SNL, which to me was a big thing, because that was, like, my sister was watching that. I wasn't old enough to watch it yet. Right. But, like, I would sneak out after my parents went to bed. I would catch the last half hour,

and it was, like, that first season, and some of those early seasons, they were doing, like, experimental stuff. Yeah. They had magicians on there. Yeah, in the way with stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, I mean, once the eye of the corporate Borg looks on you, you're not gonna do that anymore.

Yeah. I knew that from some experience, like a late night thing. Like before, I had magic week and all that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, yeah, you know, I had magic. At some point they stopped, yeah. Yeah.

When we were starting out doing sketch comedy in New York City in 91, 92, it was like, it was kids in the hall. Oh, yeah, they were great. Yeah,

and I think it was HBO that had the show on HBO. Yeah, well, they came through town and we were- They were CBS kids in the hall. Well, they went to- Yeah,

then they went to CBS or went to HBO or the other way around. I can't remember, but they were definitely on CBS for a while. Yeah, well, they were, you know,

CBC or whatever, they were Canada for a while yeah well they were you know CBC or whatever they were Canada for a while and then yeah Lorne Michaels brought them but we saw them live at the bottom line

bottom line and then like maybe the Beacon yeah at the Beacon we saw them too but that was a big thing for us I mean you know

that was us going to see like these are the guys doing what we are now trying to do on the big and there were a few different groups in New York at our level I think you, you know, like the state guys.

I was going to say the state are kind of contemporaries of yours, right? Yeah, they were at NYU, you know, I think at the same time that we were performing in the village or whatever. Right. And we went up, there was at some, at one point where the three or four kind of sketch groups in the same food group went up for some MTV who got the gig at MTV and they got that gig. It's funny because the state, I'm very good friends with Tom Lennon who was in the state and I always thought of the state, and Tom

would get mad at me if I say this, but I think of the state, he'd be like no, that's not true! But I think of the state as being kind of middle class one and I think of you guys being being kind of middle class one, and I think of you guys being a little more blue collar. But since you grew up in Yorkville, Steve, I'm beginning to change.

I'm like, I don't know. I think that's true. I think we were probably a little more fratty, like frat guy, or whatever, probably. Yeah, a little more. What, you make a movie called Beer Fest? Exactly. We were more perceived that way.

Was that going to be in Beer Fest at one point do you remember that what Beer Fest I seem to remember somebody

I would like it was like it was before I met you guys but somebody had come to me to do Beer Fest and I wanted to do it and I couldn't do it

oh yes I think that's true that's absolutely right it's like I was doing Late Night and I couldn't get it you guys were shooting in Atlanta or something like that?

Where did you shoot? No, we shot in Albuquerque. Wow, so it's far enough away from CBS in West Hollywood. But I remember that. Yeah. I remember that being around. I was like, oh, that might be a thing to do. You'd be on the Scottish team.

Yeah. Was there a Scottish team? Was that what it was? The British team was the biggest. There was a Scottish team because they were in Scottish team. Yeah. Was there a Scottish team? Was that what it was? The British team was the biggest. There was a Scottish team because they were in kilts. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But they were relegated to background.

Yeah. Well, that's because we couldn't get Craig Ferguson. Yeah, that's right. Had I been doing it. Had we got Craig Ferguson. I'd be like, wait a minute, guys. I mean, I've come all the way from CBS. I can't be in the background like Shrek and back here.

I can't be doing that. Throw him out front. Yeah. I will say, you know. Throw him out front. Yeah. I will say, you know, see, this is something we discuss on the show Tacoma FD, which is our after show. Oh, so you're the Tacoma from Taco. Yeah. I'm in Tacoma at the end of the week. I'm doing the comedy club there. That's a great club.

Is it? Yeah. Have you been there? No. No, I've been to Tacoma, but I've never been to that club. Excellent. That's one of the places, I think, that's where we kind of came up with the idea for the show. Because we were batting around this firefighter show and where should we put it?

And it was just raining the whole time up there. And we were like, wouldn't it be funny to put a firefighter show in the rainiest town in America? And then, because we were doing that Tacoma Comedy Club. You're right. And then we would go back there afterwards after the show came out and it would just be phenomenal. Because I've got an idea for a show right now in tacoma okay tacoma pd okay okay and what it is is i'm a private detective private detective okay in tacoma in the rain and i came and i came from glasgow because i didn't like the rain and i heard that america had better weather and i ended up in

tacoma okay i i actually just as i this, because I'm just like digging around, I'm like, it's actually a pretty good idea. That's a good idea. Do you want to hear a sad story? Do you want to hear a sad story? Yeah, all right. Is it genuinely sad? Because maybe I don't.

No, it's like, oh, boy. And then the puppy died. Yeah. No, it's not like that. No, it's not that. Well, it depends. So we had, and I've never told this story publicly before. Oh boy, look out.

So we shot, season three, we shot during like prime COVID time. And that was like, you know, all the protocols. We were one of the first shows to go. And they were like, you're going to be doing the Q-tip every day. Yeah, I remember. And the guest stars, you know, every crew member's got two masks and all that stuff. And so, and we made it a pretty long way. Like five months, so along the way we had uh we had started talking the network about doing Tacoma PD

spinoff show yeah it's expanding the universe right and there was a you know because we had a group of local cops in the show that are our nemeses right but the day we were shooting one of those actors who they loved turned out he had COVID and he gave him COVID number one on the call sheet oh jeez everything shut down and everything shut down

for how long? 10 days or 2 weeks were you vaccinated? it was pre-vax I got it pre-vax as well it was gnarly you would just sit in a dark room Were you vaccinated? It was pre-vax. So this is like, I got a pre-vax as well. It was gnarly. Well,

yeah, it's crazy. Cause you didn't know you would just sit in like a dark room and you weren't sure if you die. Yeah. That's right. I mean, no clue. There's no medical thing. They used to say like after 10 days,

you also might die. Yeah. You start to feel better and then you might die. And like, you know, my kids and my wife, nobody would go near me. You know,

nobody knew what was going to happen. So you just sat in a room and waited. Yeah. And I had to quarantine cause I was in the room with you and him. Yeah. And I didn't get it. But the construction crew came and built a wall for me in my house. Really?

Yeah. Yeah. And then my wife would slide food under the door. That was fucking madness. It was madness. Wasn't it madness? Just mad. Yeah.

Like fucking full on panic.on panic yeah i mean it's crazy i was in the uk when it happened and like the lockdown was crazy yeah like cra you couldn't go out like you walked out it was like remember that will smith movie where before he got punchy when he did that yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah whatever that's what it was like in scotland you know except it was raining yeah but it was like in Scotland. Except it was raining. But it was like, I was there. It was so quiet and crazy and scary. But then I got it anyway.

So the network said, I pitched them the idea of Tacoma PD and they were like, yeah, let's do it. And then this actor got COVID, shut down the set for two weeks and I said, is this a bad time to keep discussing Tacoma PD? And they were like, yeah, fuck that. It's over.

And they killed it just because of the COVID. Because that guy got COVID and gave it to me. Now we can bring it back. I'm willing to go into Tacoma PD where me as the private tech from Scotland as a co-production with Broken Lips. I think this is a real idea. I'm seriously, this is a serious real idea

that I think we're having right now. Okay. Like a detective from Scotland, like retires from the police force, does his 20, right? Yeah. Retires from police, wants a quiet life,

but you know, how bad can it be in Tacoma? It's a quiet town. It's probably got really nice weather. It's in America. Right. And he goes there and it's like,

it's a rough town and it's raining all the time. But is the joke that because you're coming from Scotland, you actually think the weather's great in Takawa? Well, it's got to be better in America. It's got to be. American weather is nice. It's like, you know, it's like sun, sun, sun in California. But it's on the west coast, it's got to be like Beach Boys and all that. You're up there in the rain yet you're Hawaiian shirt and convertible car. Yeah, convertible,

definitely a convertible. A LeBaron. Because you don't want to break the bank so you get an old LeBaron and sunglasses. Right, so kind of like,

he thinks he's going to be like Magnum PR but he's drenched all the time. But he doesn't mind. He doesn't mind. Well, he doesn't mind because you think

this is rain, this ain't rain. That's not Scotland rain. This is mist. Right. All right. We got it. I think this is okay.

We got it. I think so too. I think this is good. Yeah. So this podcast forms a contract between us now. I see. So we're bound. We're bound.

We're bound. Yeah, yeah. We're now together. So we should probably discuss financial tariffs. Okay. Okay. Okay. We can now together. So we should probably discuss financial tariffs. Okay. Okay. We can do that. I actually, I'm not kidding.

I think this would work. That's pretty good. That would be great. That would be funny. Because what we talked about too was that we would just flip it so that the firefighters are just the nemeses. Yeah. You guys are the heroes of the show and we are the bad guys.

Well, I think if you go into the universe, like the fire department are there. So you guys are producers of this show. And if you feel like coming in and going, all right, we're going to do like three episodes. Right, right, right. You can. Yeah, but then you just make producer money and I'll just go and do the job. Right. Yeah.

Okay. Sweet. I think it's a good package. Yeah. Let me answer this. All right. Would you want to shoot in Tacoma or do you want to shoot somewhere else? That's a tax question. Welcome. Yeah. Would you want to shoot in Tacoma or would you want to shoot somewhere else?

That's a tax question. Welcome. Because we shoot our show in LA and we're constantly erasing palm trees out of the shots. Well, that sounds expensive. And also, who the hell can work in California? Well, except that for me, it would take me one song to get to the set. All right. Okay. Which was, you know, it's like when I would hear actors throwing tantrums about like the

locations and how they don't want to leave home, I was always like, oh, they're prima donna until I had kids. Yeah. That's different. That's why I took late night. Because of the kids? My first son was born. Oh, really?

Yeah. Because I was- Steady job. I needed something that was going to keep me in town. Yeah. And then this thing came up that Craig Kilbourne is leaving the late night show. I was like, do you want to try out for it? And they're like, actually, it's in town all the time. And I'm like, yeah. And I'm like, okay.

Did you have to go up against a bunch of people? Oh, yeah. Yeah. One of them from the state, Michael Ian Black. Oh, yeah. He nearly got it. I think I actually think he's a funny guy. He's very funny guy. I actually think he would have been a better choice, but... No, come on. Oh, no, I think so. I agree.

Yeah, no, I think so. I agree. He's a very funny guy. He's smart. He's very smart. He would have done a very good show, I think. Yeah. But you guys bring a different thing to it.

He would have had more of that kind of smarmy, snarky, young guy energy. Yeah. So you're saying I'm an affable grandpa? You had a more regal, regal, dignified presence. Sure. You know, like he couldn't have like politicians on the show. No. He couldn't keep up with the way you could.

Well, I didn't really have that many politicians. The thing about politicians is they're kind of like, they're not good at improv. Right. You can't rip at them. They don't guess and? They just stay on message. Somebody teaches them.

There's some kind of media training out there. And they say, I don't know, it's like they say, stay on message. And you go, so I'm going to be a douchebag from when I begin until I, it doesn't matter what political party you're in, stay on message. And so you can't talk to them. They just come out and fucking yell at you and then leave. But that's when you have the skeleton start talking to them, right?

Did you notice that there was a skeleton? Yes. I love the skeleton. I didn't have, well, I still have this. There were two skeletons. I don't want to, you know. Really? Yeah.

Where are they? Are they in Scotland? Both in my house in Scotland. Oh, really? Yeah. What do you do? Like put them in a box and send them over? They sit them out in a room and we have little tea parties together.

You put them in the first class airplane seat next to you? And you fly? No. See, I don't buy first class. I buy coach, but I buy a coach for the skeleton next to me. And then I don't have to, for the middle seat, but I buy a coach for the skeleton next to me. And then I don't have to do it. Oh, for the middle seat. Okay.

Yeah, so it's all good. Okay. Didn't we fly someplace first class recently? We did, and one of the Brooklyn Lakers guys got bumped out of first class. That's a no-fly situation for me. When they say you're bumped out of first class, I'm saying, I'm sorry. Here's the funny thing was, then we walk through first class, and there's a cello player. And the cello player had bought the first class seat, so he's sitting in one seat, and next to him in first class is his cello in the seat.

But it did look like a big giant head. It was like an eight-foot-tall person sitting there. One way you should do it is paint a face on top of the cello case so it looks like a big person, and then you can shame them for taking the seat. But Paul got bumped out of first class for the cello. But he still had, through the curtain, he could still make direct eye contact

with the cello. Right. And he got free drinks. Was that a long flight? Yeah, it was New York, LA. No, no, it was Chicago, LA. That's a long, that's a few long hours.

That's long enough to want to be in first class. Be angry at a cello. Yeah, I don't know. I think the cello is quite a sexy instrument. It's sexy, and when you see it sitting in a first class seat, it was in a white case. Oh, wow.

That's that guy's flex. You think? That's that guy trying to get some action. Like it's like having a pet dog or whatever. No, because immediately you're like... No, it's like the guy in Starbucks with a parrot on his shoulder. You know what I mean? It's the same.

Or a big lizard or something. It's like, oh yeah, I'm sorry, I have my cello. You want to talk to me? Sure, go ahead and talk to me. My cello will have the brisket. Brisket and latte. But you know, you're immediately like,

who is that guy? Who's that guy? It's Yo-Yo Ma. It might be Yo-Yo Ma. It's not Yo-Yo Ma. But it's not. But he's because yo-yo ma is too cool for that yo-yo ma is like yeah my cello flies private yeah yeah yeah no

this but we were you know we were trying to peek and take pictures of the guy and then like we were look like googling who's what cello player is playing in chicago what cello player is going to it's probably just i don't orc. That's a whole world though, that classical music world. Like there are giant stars in that world you never know.

Yeah, you never know. It's kind of like now with your kids, right? They have like, they have YouTube people or whatever it is.

Yeah, or you know, they want to go and see people that are performing in a stadium and you're like, who is this? Yeah. And it's like,

oh, he's the biggest influencer slash anime singer star yeah you've ever seen like there's a there's a hologram thing now have you seen this no my son went to see this hologram how old are your kids uh 23 okay or 22 and uh 13 got it okay the scottish people the way we breed is like these orchids in the jungle so every 10 years a Scottish person goes and anywhere

you know a Scottish man goes and anyone in a kind of like 5 to 25 foot radius gets pregnant that's how we do it

but only every 10 years because it takes you 10 years to regenerate right it just builds up in your well you have to fill up

in your pudenda pudenda what is a pudenda that's a nice way of saying the naughty word I said that's flower gen up. In your pudenda. Pudenda? What is a pudenda? That's a nice way of saying the naughty word I said earlier. That's flower genitalia. Is it pudenda? Yeah, flower genitalia. I thought it was an Italian meal.

It's also that type. I'll have the pudenda. Yeah, exactly. But it's kind of a homophone, right? Homophone? A homophone. What is a homophone again? It's a phone where you call your gay friends.

All right, so your kid went to see something. Your 13-year-old kid went to go see a hologram? No, this was when my 22-year-old was about 17 or something. It's like a touring thing. You could probably Google it. It was like a touring thing where you go and see this Japanese performer, but it's a hologram. So they're not really there. But there's songs and stuff.

But ABBA are doing that now. ABBA are on tour. But hologram on tour? Yeah, It's a hologram. So they're not really there. But there's songs and stuff. But ABBA are doing that now. ABBA are on tour. But hologram on tour? Yeah, hologram. It's holograms. It's a big thing in London, in the O2 in London. You can go and see ABBA like they were back in the day, but it's holograms. So it's a broadcast of an old thing, or they're sitting somewhere, playing somewhere, and they're generating it?

No, it's holograms of them when they were young and in their prime and the music is there and it's like they're on the stage performing for you. You see, I thought... Using iPhones or something. I thought it was going to be like they're in a studio in Sweden

and they're putting on a show. No. No, this is completely generated. They don't have to do anything. No, they're just taking the money. They're just cashing checks. We should do that. We should do a Broken Lizard show that way. Yes, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how to do anything. No, they're just taking the money. They're just cashing checks. We should do that. We should do a broken lizard show that way.

I guess. I don't know. I don't know. I know Elvis is appearing in London pretty soon. Really? The same way? Yeah. No, Elvis is going to be doing hologram shows in London.

Down in the lobby of this building, there's an advertisement for it. Oh, really? Well, that's probably how I know. That's crazy. Yeah. So Elvis, you know, will be going back to Vegas. Oh, yeah. Young Elvis or hefty Elvis?

For me, I would go hefty. Yeah, sure. Because I feel like that's where I enjoyed it. You know, Elvis was only 42 when he died. I know. Crazy. It's weird. It's insane, isn't it?

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Was he funny? Did he engage? Yeah, he was funny, but he was kind of like frightening tough grandpa. Like someone who'd been in the Second World War and seen action, but I still had a bit of a sense of humor. Okay. Well, he's been a grandpa for 40 years. Yeah, he's been a grandpa really easily since he was 49. But sometimes it's hard to get those guys to open up, have a little fun.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, that's true. But he did a little bit, I think. I mean, he had to travel in from Montana or something. Okay. He lives it. Was he promoting something?

No, no, he wasn't doing anything. I did a campaign to get him on because I saw this drag queen in San Francisco who looked like Wilford Brimley and was wearing stack heels and hot pants, but otherwise looked like Wilford Brimley. And I was like, wow, is that Wilford Brimley? And then we started a whole thing as, is it, isn't it? And then he came on the show to dispute the and did you have the

the person from San Francisco too at the same time I did not which was wrong I should have you needed me there yeah I should have

you know it's you messed up I came up with the idea for Tacoma private detective that's true that's true

well I didn't come up with the idea but now you you said that's true. So legally, that is true. That is true. Yeah. I'm just yes-handing and it screws me.

You just... It contractually screws me. It just cost you 20,000. Holy shit. And he's a lawyer. You know, he's a lawyer. Are you a lawyer? Really?

Yeah. Do you actually go through the contracts and stuff for the... I do, but I mean, we pay someone to do that. I mean, I do it for fun. The only time he ever actually should have done it for us, we got screwed. We got loopholed. Really? And we were like, what?

Why didn't you catch it? He passed the bar in two states. Really? And he didn't catch his loophole. Did you pass the bar in California? New York. That's a tough bar. New York and Connecticut.

Yeah. I did all right. First time though. First try. First try. That's great. Pretty good. Yeah, that is pretty good.

See, I'm not just some beer swillin no no I long ago dispensed with the idea that you guys were actually who you actually were yeah you know I mean it's like oh yeah they're just gonna oh are they yeah I dropped out of college my senior year because I got drunk and kicked through a glass door he is that guy and severed my Achilles tendon. Really? Yeah. So you couldn't walk and you had to do comedy? Yeah.

Yeah, that's it. It drove me to comedy. What were you studying in college? Were you studying law? I was a fine arts major. I was a painter. Oh, see. I like all that.

My wife was a fine art dealer in New York when I met her. I love all that stuff. Yeah. He's just doing it to get girls. Well, yeah. That's why he did it. Do you ever that stuff. Yeah. He's just doing it to get girls. Well, yeah. That's why he did it. Do you ever. Check out my painting.

Do you have, do you collect art? I don't. I make art. You make it? Yeah. About comic art. Fart jokes. You do fart jokes.

Yeah. In the style of what, Matisse and stuff like that? Matisse style fart jokes. Close. I liked that. I liked pointillism. Pointillism? Yeah.

Okay, talk me through pointillism. Which is like Monet and Manet. It's like little dots. Oh, those little dotty pointy things. Yeah, okay. Yeah. That was what I was experimenting with at the time of my dropout. So you were an experimental painter and you ended up Broken Lizard?

Yeah. Dude, that's okay. That shows you're adaptable. And it's the adaptable that survive. Well, the thing was, so my junior year was when we started Broken Lizard. Charred Goose Peak was the name of that group. Charred Goose Peak? Charred Goose Peak.

Oh, it's Charred Goose Peak. Okay, that's a little, I feel that's a little Woodstock. That's wacky college guys Is it scared scriptless? Quirky college guys Charred goosebeats Well it wasn't a pun at least Yeah it wasn't scared scriptless

Yeah yeah exactly I'm still angry about that When I see those guys Oh man But one of the girls in scared scriptless Was a phone sex girl Oh yeah I worked with a couple of girls that did that in New York. I think it was

kind of a good job for actresses in New York back in the day. In the 90s or whatever? Yeah, because there was these phone lines. I think it was like an OnlyFans, but audio, right? Audio, they would call and charge like, they're fully dressed. She just had a very sexy voice. And yeah, I mean, she probably had to say some

lewd things and hear some lewd things. But she was had a very sexy voice and yeah I mean she probably had to say some lewd things and hear some lewd things but she was making a lot of money yeah I remember I worked with a couple of actresses who had supplemented

their income with that they were like yeah it's hilarious you know you're sitting with like smoking a cigarette in your robe going oh baby I thought

you know that's improv you know it is that's right and fair play to them for doing it. I'm like, yeah, that's great.

I would have done it. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, you could have done it. Maybe with a Scottish accent. Yeah. You could. Not now, I don't think.

Yeah, now. I'm too affable grandpa-sounded now. Yeah, too dignified. But did you like did you ever do like a like one of those sleepy time books on tape

that like Cillian Murphy does no but you know what I did do like a lot of actors do like Matthew McConaughey does it and all that it's like

it's time to go to sleep it's kind of like white noise type yeah I listen to them too but I what I do who do you listen to though

I listen to right now I I what I do who do you listen to though I listen to right now I'm listening to Dan Stevens okay telling an Agatha Christie book

okay and like I have to put the timer on the phone for like 15 minutes I go I'll have a bedtime I'm asleep okay

and the phone shuts off after 15 minutes and I sleep it's like it is absolute heroin to me it knocks me out do you think

okay so American versus UK. Because I don't think there's an American who could make me fall asleep. But I would have to think that like... Oh, Morgan Freeman. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Or Matthew McConaughey even. Do you know what?

I heard a great joke yesterday. Okay. And I don't want to do this. I was going to talk about Dan Stevens, but okay. Well, we can get back to Dan Stevens. But I heard a joke. It's Bradley Cooper, Leonardo DiCaprio, and Matthew McConaughey decide they're going to make a movie together. And Bradley Cooper's like, I'll direct.

And Leo's like, I'll act. And Matthew McConaughey says, I'll write, I'll write, I'll write. Oh, they see what he did. That's the joke? That's the joke. Okay. Talk about Dan Stevens so Dan Stevens you were gonna talk about

I got nervous getting to the yeah he's talking about Downton Abbey he's in Downton Abbey right was he in Downton Abbey

yeah he was in that great Will Ferrell oh my god he's so funny in that movie the European song contest have you seen this movie

Eurovision that's like one of the most underrated movies that is a fantastic movie. I watched that with my family and then we watched it again. It's just funny, funny, funny. I'm telling you, it is Ricky Bobby level funny. It is.

Totally. And then Stan Stevens is the bad guy. Yeah. And he played a Russian guy. Yeah. He's hysterical. He is. He's fantastic.

That's the Downton Abbey guy? Was he in Downton Abbey? Yeah. He was like the lead dude And he died at the end of the first season Because he wanted to get out of his contract Oh Like he drove his car into a tree or something like that

Was that the first season? Yeah Yeah, I don't know I mean, I watched Downton Abbey You loved Downton Abbey, come on No, no, see the thing is I watched it because I'm married to my wife I did too, but then I loved it

You didn't try it? I did get into it later on But I think it was the second or third season Yeah, yeah, my wife loved it And I got into it And then we went it. You didn't try it? I did get into it later on, but I think it was the second or third season. Yeah, yeah. My wife loved it, and I got into it. And then we went and saw the movies in the movie theaters. Did you see the one where they come and make a Hollywood movie? I think I stopped.

I think that jumped the shark for me. That jumped the shark. Oh, really? Like, the second movie they came out with. It was a movie from Hollywood, and they're coming to film at the castle. I believe they're making another one where Scooby-Doo and the gang turn up. Is that right? Yeah, Scooby and the gang turn up.

I'll see that one. I would see that one. I would see that one. I will see that. I will see that one. They eventually did the deal with Matthew Lillard, so they got their shaggy and they're going to do Scooby. And Dan Stevens comes back as a ghost. Yeah.

And he's haunting. I got it. We wrote it. You know what? This is amazing. We wrote it. It's more money than... This is amazing.

Yeah, it's got to be great. By the way, if the producers of Downton Abbey were smart, they would go ahead and do that. They're definitely smart. Smarter than us. No, no, no. They're erudite. Erudite.

Okay, okay. They come across as smarter because... I guess so, but that's the person who puts them to sleep. Oh, it's the British thing, isn't it? They sound smart because they're British, but they're not smart. But they're not really smart.

Yeah, yeah. I've come across that in my life many times. Well, I really think this is going to be marvelous. Oh, really? It's like anyone with an Australian accent,

you think they're tough, but they're not actually tough. They're not really tough. No. Roy, Mike. They're pretty tough. Some of them are tough. Some of them are tough.

Thor's tough. Yeah. Their head buddy. Thor, I think, wasn't he Norwegian? Well, but the guy who plays him, Hemsworth. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah. He's pretty tough. He's tough Yeah Their head buddy Thor I think is Wasn't he Norwegian? Well but the guy Who plays him Hemsworth

Oh right Yeah yeah He's pretty tough He's tough And big Yeah big tough Big tough Australian I'm scared now

Scared and kind of excited In a weird way Yeah titillated Yeah I feel like all Aussies Are like They're a head buddy crew You know

You ever spend Any time out there? Yeah I kind of liked it I loved it. But Scotland is the same, don't you think? It's warm weather Scotland. Yeah, I think you're right.

It's a similar vibe. They're friendly, but they do drink, so things get unpredictable later on in the evening. Yeah, when you're hanging out at the Slaughter Dlam. Yeah, that's right. Stick to the Pus. Yeah. Stick to the Pus, son.

We did a cold open of Tacoma FD this final season where he and I played two Scottish Highlanders in blue makeup. We did our Scottish accent. How'd that go? Well, I found out that there were certain words that you could say that would get you into the Scottish accent. Fair enough. Let's hear them. You and McGregor. Not bad. Not bad at all. That was my trigger word where it would get me into the Scottish accent. Fair enough. Let's hear him. Ewan McGregor. Not bad.

Not bad at all. That was my trigger word where it would get me into the accent. Ewan McGregor. He wears leopard skin. Okay. What about that? Yeah, it's not bad. It's okay.

It's a little bit, it's a little bit like his earlier Morgan Freeman. Had you stayed just a little bit. Just Ewan McGregor? Yeah. But, but then you moved on. I mean, look, it's not an easy accent, especially to a Scottish person. Okay, hold on. Let me go.

I had two phrases. One of them is, it's fucking great. I fucking love it. It's fucking great. I fucking love it. I fucking love it. And the other was, are you out of your mind? That's a good Scottish woman.

Are you out of your mind? That was like my mother. Are you out of your mind? That was like my mother there. Are you out of your mind? Mom, I'd like to go into show business. Are you out of your mind? I'm going to America to become a late night talk show host. Are you out of your mind? It'll never work.

You're mad. You'll be back here in a year's time. Do you know what happened? My first year in late night, I had Rizzo on the show from the Wu-Tang Clan. Yeah. And my mom was on at the same time.

So I said to Rizzo, you do a lot of comedy but drive around LA and take my mom to some places. Holy shit, that's funny. And he did. He took my mom to

Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles. Oh, no kidding. Yeah. And they had Chicken and Waffles and they got on really well. I mean, my mom was a

nice woman and Rizzo's really cool and he was like, yeah, it was fine. He took her in his fucking baller Mercedes around LA. Holy shit, that's funny. But they kind of kept in touch.

And then my mom, my mom later on, like years, a couple of years later, Wu-Tang were doing a big show in Scotland. And my mom called me and said, hey, I'm just trying to get in touch with RZA. And I'm like, why, mom? I said, well, I noticed that Wu-Tang are playing at the moment. I went, hey, I'm just trying to get in touch with RZA. And I'm like, why, man? I said, well, I noticed that Wu-Tang are playing at the moment. I went, yeah. I said, well, I thought I would take the ladies from Arthritis Care to go and see Wu-Tang. I was like, okay, but I don't know if the ladies from Arthritis Care are going to love the show.

They might. I don't know. Was she familiar with his music or she just liked him as a kid? She knew what she was going to get into, right? She brought the arthritis group. I think she knew that it was a type of music she perhaps wasn't familiar with. But I'm guessing with your guys' parents, I don't know if you guys were in the showbiz family.

I wasn't. No, no, no, not at all. So when I was in the show business, my mother just was like, I guess that's a world I don't understand, but she grew to be okay with it. They were totally loved. Every interaction they had, they loved it.

They would make friends with people. We had this story about Linda Carter, my dad. And Linda Carter was in Super Troopers, all Super Troopers movies. And then I did a couple other movies with her. I did a movie called Sky High. Duke Satter, we became friendly with Linda Carter.

Right. Wonder Woman. Yeah, yeah. And so- Legendary. Legendary. And also, you know, like, you know, one of the, you know, known to be the heartthrob of, you know, the 70s or whatever.

Harman Kavanaugh. Yeah. It was at that same era. Yeah. We were shooting Super Troopers 2. We were in Massachusetts. And we had a day off or whatever and we were eating lunch in the hotel,

my parents came to visit or we had wrapped or whatever. And I was eating dinner with my parents and Linda came into the hotel restaurant and sat down at the table with us. And we were just chatting and she was chatting with my parents and my dad was chatting or whatever. And as my dad was eating, he had a hamburger and fries and linda was sitting as my dad she just reached over and she like plucked the fry off his plate right and ate it okay and he freaked out he like got like

totally rattled and after she was like what's up and he goes linda carter she ate a french fry off my plate you know and he thought i was the greatest thing in the world that linda carter if she did it to my daddy to go angry he would that was the greatest thing in the world. That Linda Carter. If she'd have done it to my dad, he'd have got angry. He would have. Get your own fries on Linda Carter.

That's Linda Carter though. It's Linda with a Y, baby. That's Linda Carter. Yeah, but you know, get your own chips, Linda. Don't touch mine. Yeah, it's like, I respect your work

as an artist, but get your own chips. Yeah, and your mom was like, she picks the french fry off, how do you act if you're in my mind? Get your own chips. Get your own chips.

All right, well now look, see, we're done here now. I was going to be in mind? How do you have to be in mind? All right. Well, no, look, see, we're done here now. I was going to ask you a ton of stuff. I forgot about it. We started riffing on shit. Well, but we did come up with the idea for the show, which I think. We have that show. Yeah.

So let's get on to that. I think it's pitching time. Okay. Should we go out there? Yeah, I think so. We've pitched together before. I feel. Sure, yeah.

Didn't we pitch a TV show? Yeah, we pitched Bald Guys. Bald Guys. And he was the guy with the hair. I was the guy hair i was the guy he was in the room with us yeah remember he was going to be kale feuerstein yeah he was kale the we're going to make him scott a good hair guy yeah good hair guy did did that show ever get made no no no one thought it was like a sketch yeah the show was about a bunch of bald guys and the bad guy is the guy who has really good hair and that was here yeah it might be a sketch to be fair it could be yeah i mean let's let's think i think you ended up firing your manager over that show i really do really yeah that was one of those shows that you felt

like your management wasn't getting behind i don't think people know like people who are not in show i don't think they know how many things get pitched and don't happen. Oh, God. I mean, it's like... I mean, 85%. Oh, I'd say even higher than that. Yeah, probably. I mean, it's like... It's baseball numbers. You hit one in 10, you're a Hall of Famer. Exactly.

You know, it's like... It's unbelievable. This idea was gold. This idea was gold. I think it was... Wasn't Phil Cattone involved in this? Phil was involved. Yeah.

I remember it was a fun pitch. Like, we were in the room. Yeah, we had a laugh. You had a little bit. We had bits and good laughs. Why did you agree to do it? How did we get you? It was involved. I remember it was a fun pitch. We were in the room. Yeah, we had a laugh. We had a little bit. We had bits and good laughs. Why did you agree to do it? How did we get you? It was Phil.

Phil from Philly. He was like, you want to do a broken lesson? I'm like, yeah. I still feel bad about beer fest. Let's do the ball guy thing. But I think third time lucky, the Tacoma private detective from Scotland. And his PD, private detective. And I think that the real PD would be like, you can't use PD. And it's PD, private detective. And I think that the real PD would be like, you can't use PD.

And we're like, yeah, I can. It's America. Yeah. I can use PD. We have goodwill there. We have goodwill. I will tell you this, and he knows this is true. On the list of TV shows that we, you know, we have a creative document with all the stuff that we have lined up.

Right. One of the shows is based on this cold open we had such a good time playing scottish highlanders right back in like the 1400s of the 1200s right that we're like you know there's like that there's a viking show out now and there's like you know what we do in the shadows they're all these like period piece comedy up for a bit of that that's fun we we really do want to do a scottish highlander show yeah okay so you've been on that. Yeah, for sure. I'd be all over that.

He could be technical consultant. No, I think I'd be looking for more than that. Oh, really? Yeah, I'd be looking for, yeah, you're me. That would be my catchphrase. So we trust you as a woman. Yeah, yeah.

No, no. Like an older woman. No, no, that's the thing. I'll say, okay. Highlander, very tough, but with a very squeaky voice. The toughest guy with that voice the toughest guy

and they were like oh no here comes Big Alec hello everyone it's time to fight the English that'd be great if you became

here comes Ewan if you became the tagline guy with like t-shirts it's are you out of your mind yeah yeah you're right

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