Joy, a Podcast. Hosted by Craig Ferguson - Sung Kang

Episode Date: April 9, 2024

Meet Sung Kang, an American actor best known for his role as Han Lue in the Fast & Furious franchise. Tune in this week and listen to Sung talk about his time growing up in the American south, his enthusiasm for cars and his love for acting and directing. Listen to his podcast Car Stories with co-host Emelia Hartford wherever you get your podcasts. EnJOY! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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These guys are not going to get away with it. The zombies are too popular. Listen to the true story of the fake zombies on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Craig Ferguson Fancy Rascal Stand-Up Tour continues throughout 2024. For a full list of dates and tickets, go to thecraigfergusonshow.com slash tour. See you out there, thecraigfergusonshow.com slash tour. See you out there. Thecraigfergusonshow.com slash tour. My name is Craig Ferguson. The name of this podcast is Joy. I talk to interesting people about what brings them happiness. Today, my guest is, I've got to be honest, he's probably cooler than you. But to be fair,

he's very much cooler than me, which I realize is not a high bar, but he's probably cooler than you. But to be fair, he's very much cooler than me, which I realize is not a high bar, but he's a very cool guy. Please welcome Sung Kang. Are you friends with Jay Leno? I would say, well, I'm an admirer. I mean, I've been on this show. In his garage, you must have. Yeah. It's not like I go to his house and have dinner.

No one does that. Jay is, he, if you did have dinner with him, you know, he never has hot liquids. Like, he's fiercely against soup. Is he? Yeah, it's weird. I think he's some weird stuff going on. How do you feel about soup? I don't like soup either. Wait, really? Yeah, it's weird. I think he's... There's some weird stuff going on. How do you feel about soup?

I don't like soup either. Wait, really? Yeah, I don't like hot food. Dude, you're Korean. There's a lot of... Like spicy food. Right, yeah. But soup, yeah. But there are soups involved in Korean cuisine.

There's a whole soup area of Korean food. Lots of soup. But I avoid it. I avoid it. I like cold. I like the cold noodles. Right, but Lots of soup. Yeah. But I avoid it. I avoid it. I like cold, I like the cold noodles. Right, but hot soup.

Hot soup is like, that's Polish and stuff. You're crossing the streams, man. Hey, you know, Polish has a lot, a lot of similarities to Korean food, actually.

Really? Yeah. How does that work? Have you been to Poland? Have you spent time in Poland? No, but my wife's background, her ancestry is Polish, yeah. So I just spent some time in Poland.

Okay. A lot of their food is pickled. That's right, yeah. Fermented. Yeah, fermented, but she's always eating pickles, all the time. Yeah, they love beef tongue,

they love beef tartare. Right. They love vodka, which is kind of so Jewish, right? Yeah, but also, Koreans drink a lot too, though, don't they? Oh, yeah. Yeah, Koreans are like, they used to say,

this is probably very not okay to say this now, but they used to say the Koreans are the Irish of Europe. I've heard that. Koreans are Irish of Asia. I've heard that. Like literate drunks. Yeah. They don't like outsiders.

Right. And they don't like each other much either. That sounds like they might be the Scottish of Asia then. Yeah. But listen, are a lot of your family still in Korea? My mother is in Korea. Oh, really? I thought you were brought up in California or...

Georgia. Georgia. Yeah, so after I graduated high school, she decided to go back. Oh. Yeah, she came here for the kids, to give me the American dream. Right. But she always felt like,

she did feel like a second-class citizen. Really? Yeah, and she, growing up in the South, during the 70s and the 80s, opportunities for her to work. Like, you know, my mother like was cleaning toilets like a housekeeper. But, you know, she felt like, hey, she did her duty. She gave her kids opportunity to dream.

Right. Maybe opportunities that we wouldn't have had if we were in Korea, living there in the 70s. Yeah. And so she felt like, hey, I want to go back and hang out with friends

and have friends. I did that though. I went back to Scotland. You did? Yeah, I did. I went back to Scotland like five or six years ago. I kind of moved back there

and then I'd been there for like five or six years and I'm like, yeah, that's enough. And I'm back to Scotland like five or six years ago. I kind of moved back there, and then I'd been there for like five or six years, and I'm like, yeah, that's enough. And I'm back in America. Yeah, but I did go back for a while. I think it's, I don't know, you get a kind of call for it. I don't know. You kind of go back. Would you ever, but you grew up in America,

so it would be different for you. You wouldn't think about going to Korea. I tried. You know, when I was like in my 20s, I said, maybe I could go back there and there'd be more opportunities for me as an actor. I went back and my Korean's not that good. I speak Korean like an 8-year-old. I have an accent when I speak Korean.

They know that I'm from America. Really? Yeah. That's kind of... It's like if you spoke Korean, they know that I'm from America. Really? Yeah. That's kind of... Yeah, it's like if you spoke Korean, I sound like you. Right. Right, because I...

I went to... A friend of mine, we went out to Mexico and he speaks really good Spanish, but he learned it in Spain. So when you go out to Mexico and you speak Spanish, Spanish, Castilian Spanish to Mexicans,

it sounds like he said, good afternoon, how very, very marvelous and lovely to see you. It sounds like he sounds super posh or something like that. Very strange. So is that the kind of vibe? I guess it would be language is language. Yeah.

And then men in Korea, they say that I sound like a woman because there's a certain way of speaking, like informal and formal, a way a female would speak and a male would speak. And I've been taught how to speak Korean by women, my mother, my wife. So I sound like a girl. Well, you know, in these times, that's okay. That's cool. I mean, I wonder how languages that have a lot of gender identity in them, I wonder how they're coping. Because gender identity is like changing.

It has, yeah. I don't know if it's changing in Korea yet. Right, I don't know. I'll be honest with you, I know really nothing about Korea. Do you know much about Scotland? No. Okay, so we're even then, that's fine. But I'll tell you about Scotland and you tell me about Korea. Okay. Okay. So, why not where Korea is, probably recent stuff is like the split in the country. That plays into the Irish thing as well, I suppose. Doesn't it north and south split by someone else and then causes a lot of problems later on?

I mean, do you have any relatives in the north? Well, we are from the north. Originally, especially my mother's side they're all north korean all right so she and then during the war she she got out she left right and so that's why she grew up so poor because they were north koreans and then they came to the south during the war they knew no one so they had to start over in seoul and um you know so they're north korean blood Korean blood. So the food that she makes, or the Korean food that I grew up with, would be considered North Korean cuisine.

Like Polish Korean? Yeah. Like a lot of pickles. Yeah, I get it. So listen, were your parents really into you being an actor? Because that kind of look it's a stereotype i thought like for i i'm an immigrant and i don't want my kids to be actors i want them to be like you know cpas something like that yeah cpas doctors that kind of thing yeah the well the art conversation was not something that we had right at home you You know, it was survival. It was like, you know, my,

and I have a stepfather, so. Right. You know, he was in the military. He was like, you know, master sergeant. And, you know, he was very by the book. And, you know, very strict in the way, you know, he felt like a young man had to grow up. And he worked.

You know, he worked like two, three jobs, right? My mother, she, you know, he worked like two, three jobs, right? My mother, she, you know, was cleaning dishes and cleaning toilets, right? It's a full-on blue-collar background

you're from. Yeah, very much so. And, you know, her mind was like, I gotta, like,

send my kids to college. I'm going to have this money. I'm gonna, you know, save some money so they have opportunities. Right.

To talk about, hey, I wanna be an actor. it's like crazy talk. It was where I grew up as well. I'm going to be in show business? It's like, yeah, I'm going to be an astronaut. It's like, no, you're not. You're going to go and work in the shipyards like everybody else.

So did you go to college? I did. So what did you study at college? Political science. I was going to be an intern. Political scientist? Yeah. What is the outcome for a political science degree normally?

What's the goal from that? You go to law school. You go to law school and become a lawyer? Yeah. Oh, man, you don't want to do that. No. You're way too cool to be a lawyer. Well, there's some cool lawyers.

Yeah. Some, some. No, listen, even if they're cool lawyers, they're still lawyers, though, aren't they? I mean, underneath it all, they're still lawyers. I guess public defenders. You're right. Yeah. But I'm thinking in LA terms, I guess. But there are public defenders in LA.

Yeah. You're right. So you squandered your law degree then. Did you finish? Did you get your law degree? No. You left? I never, well, I wanted, I knew that I was going to be unhappy doing that.

Right. And during the summer, I was moving furniture for a summer job. Like a summer job, yeah. And my buddy that was kind of like an older brother mentor, he was the first Asian dude that I ever met that loved films and talked about films. And he knew the Universal Studios tour monologue. Really? The dude at the tram that tells you like-

Yeah, I went and when I first came here, everybody does it, right? He knew that monologue by heart just because he loved movies and loved the whole pop culture aspect. And we would go watch films together and he would open the door for me to go, hey, there's this me to go hey there's

there's you know this art house film and there's this like asian-american dude like he's the lead like you could let's go let's go watch it and you know it's like you i mean you should be inspired like there's opportunities so who were you watching at that time at that time i remember so i was we were moving furniture and then one day day, Roy Siaka is my buddy. He goes, hey, there's this movie called Map of the Human Heart. It's a French movie with this actor, Jason Scott Lee from Hawaii. Oh, okay. He's a Chinese-American. He eventually ended up playing the Bruce Lee biopic, The Dragon.

Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I knew the name. I have hair to that movie as well, but I haven't seen it. Yeah, he was in Jungle Book. He was in Universal Soldier. He had a pretty good career. Right. And we went to go watch this film, and I see this dude, Asian American guy, not doing Kung Fu, not having an accent, not being a gangster, not being one-dimensional. I was like, wow, it's three-dimensional.

And I was like, I got to go find this dude. So I came back down to LA and hunted him down. The actor? Yeah. I was like, where did he go and study? How did he become who he became? So then I found this teacher, Sal Romeo, this Italian guy from the East Coast, very method-based, very actor studio-based. And I studied with him for like 10 years.

And he's up the street. He's like the most fearless. And he had a theater company. So we were allowed to go up and just do experimental theater and just try, just fall on your face and fall on your face. And he taught us camera technique. He just had, and he had like every technique he just he just had and he had like every book acting book that was ever made and he was accessible right you know he was like

a guru he was a mentor it was sal sal the actor's pal that's amazing yeah and so when you got into acting then you talked about method is that something that that is practical to do i mean i know very little about you know method acting but i think i kind of a layman's idea that you know like you stay in character all the time you know is that right well the sales approach was like you take what works for you right you know and you if you want to do that right right but then if the character is like a heroin junkie i don't know who would want to go do that yeah if the character

is like a pedophile you probably don't want to be like if you're playing cannibal the cannibal you probably shouldn't eat people yeah

I know what you're saying there is a certain amount of pretend involved yeah I mean in fact it's mostly pretend in fact it's all pretend it's all

yeah and you gotta have fun he would say hey it's called a play for a reason that's cool he sounds like a cool guy the coolest

is he still around? he's actually really sick that's a shame yeah so that's the end of that era I mean it's it's unfortunate because there

so many young actors and actresses that could have you know benefited from having Sal around yeah

because I remember like you, I could not afford to pay for the classes and stuff that he had. And I said, Sal, I can't really afford all this stuff. And he was the type of dude. He's like a character out of a movie. He goes, well, hey, so you want to come seven days a week? Because he kind of ran a

conservatory, right? So there's movement and Stanislavski, there's Strasberg, there's chair work, there's substitution work, there's animal work, there's voice work. There's always something to do, right? Improv work. And he said, well, hey, you want to just clean the studio and run lights at the plays and come wash my car? lights at the place and can wash my car you know if an actor or actress needs like you know somebody to read read with them for the audition you come in and you do that and you can come every day right and so he's the reason or people like that are the reason that you know i was able to kind

of and they do exist in l.a yeah i know i got help like that from a bunch of different actually one of them was a lawyer now as i think about it when I got here. Really? Yeah, because I turned up pretty much like you, I didn't have, you know, I had no connections, I didn't know anybody, I didn't, you know, and I met this lawyer, we got talking, he's still my lawyer, and they said, we'll take you on, this guy's like a heavy hitter,'s like got some massive names like huge like icon level clients and he said i'll be your lawyer i said i don't have any money he said yeah i got a feeling don't worry about it and he's still my lawyer and you know he i i made him a bit of money over the years but but he took me on just kind of like it'll work out and i think that's one of the

things i do love about show business is that there's a lot of people like that. And that it can work as a plan. Like something will turn up. Like, did you have a career plan in mind? Or are you just like, I just want to act. I just want to do it. Or I want to do a specific thing. I want to be that guy in Fast and Furious franchise.

I'm going to be that. And that's what I want to do. No, no, no. I had no plan. But I knew growing up, I did not want to leave invisible. I did not want to carry on my mom's legacy of feeling like you're a second class citizen in this country. You don't feel like that now, do you?

I do not. No. I think the times have changed, right? Right. Did you feel like that growing up? Oh, for sure. Oh, really? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, you got hit with racism a lot and stuff? Yeah, I mean, that was just the norm. You know, it wasn't something like, remember there was like this Asian hate thing that was happening in the news, right? Yeah, I remember. And there's still a bit of it. You know, that was something that was just normal for us growing up in Georgia, in the news right yeah i remember and there's still a bit of it you know there was something that was just normal for us going up in georgia in the south i mean yeah it was just

it was just the way it was you know and i i think you know maybe that's what kind of motivated me to go okay i need to leave something behind yeah i need to i need to like leave my mark like i gotta piss on this earth and then I can go, right? of dates and tickets, go to thecraigfergusonshow.com slash tour. See you out there. Meet the real woman behind the tabloid headlines in a personal podcast that delves into the life of the notorious Tori Spelling as she takes us through the ups and downs of her sometimes glamorous, sometimes chaotic life and marriage. I don't think he knew how big it would be, how big the life I was given and live is.

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Listen to The True Story of the Fake Zombies on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What about writing? Did you ever write? Yeah, I write. I write now. That's the next evolution

of my career is that I would love to really explore more opportunities as an actor, as a director. I think I found the other thing that I could be content with doing is directing. Directing. It's interesting because that's a very specific mindset. I directed one. I heard, yeah. I did not care for it. Why? I directed one I heard yeah I did not care for it why?

well I don't know I can't really explain it I've had a conversation with a couple of directors Quentin Tarantino I was talking to him about that very thing and I said

I didn't like doing it and he he's like I can't understand why a person wouldn't love directing because of course he lives for it

and I said I don't know what it is and he asked me a question he said did you have the movie in your head before you started and i said yeah he went well that's that's why you're not a director then i was like okay so do you have that do you have like say i know exactly how i want to see it i know exactly how i want to feel when i'm looking at it. I know how the... I mean, look, I don't know if all directors have this,

but I certainly don't. I didn't feel that. I think maybe it's like writer-directors. So you write the script, so as you're writing it, you have the vision. You see how it's going to play out. You see how the words are going to be delivered.

Your words are going to be delivered. you understand the message the why behind you know the film right yeah but i i mean look i i i mean i know there's no about me but i wrote this film and i directed this film and i'm in this film and i don't like it you don't like it no i feel like it didn't turn out the way i wanted it to be. I had a lot of pressure from, like, there was, and this is where I made my big mistake, casting. You cast the wrong, and what I did is I cast myself in the film, and that was really fucking stupid. Well, why'd you do that? Because it was arrogant.

I was like, I'm going to write it, and I'm going to direct it, and I'm going to be in it. And it was fine to write it and direct it, but I think being in it was a real piece of vanity that really blew up in my face. I shouldn't have done that. Because I couldn't concentrate on what I was doing. I also had a motorcycle accident during the shoot,

and I think it knocked my concentration a bit. Because I broke my collarbone in three reps, but we didn't stop filming. I'm not good with... What was the movie about? It was about a rock star who comes out of a drug haze and finds he's a teenage daughter he didn't know

about. And it was like his kind of connection back to her and her mother and what happened and stuff like that. It's a kind of sweet little light comedy thing. Sounds great. Yeah, it was okay. It's a kind of sweet little light comedy thing. That was great. Yeah, it was okay. It was a better script than it was a movie.

And that's what I thought, well, I can't be a director because it was a good script, but I couldn't get, and I remember actually, now when I think about it, I read the script to the movie Braveheart. Yeah. And I was like, I don't get it. I don't get this movie at all. But when I saw the movie, I went, I don't get it. I don't get this movie at all.

But when I saw the movie, I went, wow, that's great. And I think that Mel Gibson's a really good director. And I think he knew what he was looking at, and he could do it. So you write? You're going to write movies? Yeah. So what kind of stuff are you writing? What do you want to write?

What are you writing what do you want to write what are you doing well i i wrote a show a tv show that we're moving on we're moving forward with okay good congratulations my childhood in the south right growing up with uh biracial parents right um and you know it's like a half hour family comedy that i wrote And then I have two features that I'm almost ready to go and shoot. That's amazing. But that's, it still takes over your life. I mean, yeah,

but it's something that, you know, I don't know what else I would be doing. Fair enough. You know, it's like I wake up, I do it, you know,

and so I work a couple hours in the morning and then a couple hours before I go to bed. So I like, you know, bookend like the day with this creative journey. And it just gives me... Because being an actor, man, it can suck. It's like the worst because you're waiting for somebody to call you and go, hey, you're good enough.

And you get there and it's like you can put your heart into it, you can put your passion into it, and then it could turn out to just be junk. Or you're not even in it. Yeah. They don't even put it in. They cut. Yeah, you're right. You get cut out.

I've had that a couple of times. Yeah, me too. Yeah, it was like, wait, what happened to all that shit that I did? I just bought a TV, I have a party, and I did that. Yeah, I get it. I remember when I first moved to LA, I was buying a TV. I have a party. I did that. Yeah. I remember when I first moved to LA, I was buying a house and this realtor said,

I'd got a job and the realtor said to me, don't buy a house now, wait till October. And I said, why October? He said, that's when series start to get canceled.

The actors who have bought houses start to have to sell their houses. Oh, that's so dark. Yeah, it is. But I did it too. The show that I was in stayed on. I did the Drew Carey show for like 10 years. And that was my ticket in.

That was like that sitcom. Those were different times though. The multi-camera sitcom thing. Did you ever work with Jet Li? I did. I thought you did. I thought you did. What was the movie you did with Jet Li? It was called War. So it was Jason Statham with Jet Li I did I thought you did I thought you did what was the movie you did with Jet Li

it was called War so it was Jason Statham and Jet Li right because I remember having Jet Li on the late night show

and I had this thing where I was talking to him and you know he's quite a small guy and I was thinking as I was talking to him I thought he's a really small guy

I wonder if I could and then I my brain went I wonder talking to him, I thought, he's a really small guy. I wonder if I could. And then my brain went, I wonder how many other guys thought that just before they went to hospital. Do you know what I mean? It's like, ah, he's a pretty small guy. I could probably do it. Were you ever drawn into that world, the martial arts world, because it's so, like Asian actors are meant to do it or were meant to to or that's where the work was. Were you pulled into that? That's why I deliberately stayed away from it.

Good for you. I don't know if it was good for me. It was definitely not good for my pocketbook. Yeah, I know. I mean, I did the same as well about playing certain Scottish things. But you establish your individuality. You establish who you are.

And I've talked to people about it before. It's like, you kind of make a decision going, you know what? I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to go that way. What about the driving thing though? When you do those movies are insane. I have two boys, so I grew up and I've seen them all a lot. I've seen you a lot in the

movies and you can drive is that you driving right no what no that's not you driving no no no no first look you have you have to give credit to all these amazing stunt drivers oh that that i'm so glad my boys are not here they'll be like like, what? None of us are doing that. That doesn't make any sense. It's like, you know, we are actors. Right. And those type of stunts, you dedicate your whole life to do something like that. That is not something that I'll do.

They didn't even put you on an advanced driving course? Sure, yeah. You did that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you drift a car? Yeah. Yeah, but not like that. Yeah, but just to be saying, yes, I can. Well, you can. You can learn in an hour. you did that yeah yeah can you drift a car yeah yeah but not like that yeah but

just to be saying yes I can yeah well you can you can learn in an hour really yeah yeah it's not that difficult

you just have the right teacher you have like an open track and you have the right car like if you got like a Nissan 350Z like the easiest car to drift and then somebody can just teach you

you know it's like it's not that difficult do you ever do it like when you're like in, just like, watch this. Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah. That's cool.

In a safe area. Yeah, of course, I understand. Yeah, for legal reasons. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. But that's cool. But are you a car guy, though? I am.

Yeah? Yeah. So do you have like a giant shed like Jay with full of fancy cars? I have a Leno collection, but I do have some. You have a few Yeah? Yeah. So do you have like a giant shed like Jay with full of fancy cars? I don't have Jay Leno collection, but I do have some. You got a few cars? Yeah. What do you got? Today I was just working on a 1971 240Z at Datsun.

I'm in love with this car, Craig. Really? I've never felt this way. About a car? About a car before. Or anything or anyone. Oh, you got a dog. Yeah, I got a dog.

I got a wife so you like other things you have human connections but this car I understand like I go before I go to bed like I go out there

and today even like I was I was like I think I'm gonna end up being late because I was just I put I put this carburetor

heat shield my friend in San Jose he specializes in Z's and he makes these parts the car garage and he senturetor heat shield. My friend in San Jose, he specializes in Zs and he makes these parts, the car garage. And he sent me this heat shield because carburetors overheat and then there's like this vapor lock,

the gas starts to boil. So these old cars, they've all had like heating issues or they have heating issues. And then I put that on and there's something about just touching these car parts. We don't do that anymore. No, I know. I drove a minivan over.

It's like a hybrid. I don't think I've ever opened a hood. No, no, no, nothing. Yeah, and you smell the gas. And then you look at the stance. And the car took about three and a half years to completely like, you know, get mechanically running. So it's at my house and finally I'm like touching it every day, you know, and it's this like relationship.

Like I talk to her, it's like a her. Oh, it's a her. Right. It's like, and she's constantly going, Hey, come over and like, you know, hang out with me. Come with me. Let's go for a ride. I need this.

You gotta buy me this. You gotta buy me this. This is about to break. I have a car like that too. I don't have many cars, but I have one car that I'm like, wow, that's pretty special. What is that?

It's a Morgan Plus Four. Are you familiar with that car? I know Morgans. I don't know the Plus Four. Well, it's basically just a two-seater, little British racing green. Ooh, that's a great color. Oh, my God.

And it's like, it's two liters of engine and just nothing else. Just seats, two liters, and go fast. What year is this car? It's mid-90s, but it's a real kind of, it's a real retro look, a Morgan. It looks like it's from the 30s. It has that real kind of like, and it's still, I think it's a real retro look, a Morgan. It looks like it's from the 30s. It has that real kind of like, and it's still, I think it's the last, certainly in Britain, it's the last privately owned car company.

Right. There's a lot of wood in there, right? Yeah, they make the chassis out of wood. Wood, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's a piece of art, right? Yeah, it's a beautiful thing. And sometimes i'll go i have it in because the weather's bad in britain uh even in the garage i have it in something called a carcoon which is like a it's like this big kind of see-through plastic tent and you hook it up to the outlet

and there's a dehumidifier so it just like dries up the air all around the car. So it sits inside this little pod inside the garage. And I go in and look at it in the pod. And it's just so clean looking. And if you open the air vent, you can smell the oil coming out of it. I got a kind of kick out of it. So what I'm saying is I understand. Yeah. The British green is such a classy.

It's the greatest, greatest thing. So did you get into cars when you were a kid? Was that a thing down in Georgia? It was something that I grew up. I had a neighbor who let me hang out with him in his garage, this old Korean war vet. And his wife never had kids. He looked like James Dean meets the Fonz.

He had his pomade. Oh, yeah, the hair thing. And then white, you know, wear white t-shirts and like roll up with a cigarette. Yeah. He's always listening to like Beach Boys or something. And he was always working on this 63 Impala.

So like this pearl with red interior convertible. And he was restoring it. And so he would let me hang out with him and ask him all these stupid questions. like why why why do you got to do that why don't we put like thunderbolts in the car and he's like oh we am son it's like back to factory and this is a ss and like what is that it's like you know super sport and this is you know like we're caretakers of these you know of of history and it's like well it's not wrong you know because it's not wrong, because it's art, and it is art. I think that,

because I own a couple of things that are arty, and I think, and some of them are quite old, and I go, well, it's only mine for now. It's not like I own it, and it'll always be mine.

It'll be mine until I'm done, and then it'll be someone else's. And it's kind of like, I don't know, I do quite like the vibe of that. Are you drawn to other forms of aesthetic art as a fan? Like paintings or yeah? Yeah, I paint too. You do?

Yeah. What do you paint? I paint flowers. You paint flowers, in oils? Anything. Acrylic, you know, crayons, markers. You're like so artistic, I feel kind of embarrassed. No, anything. Acrylic, you know, like crayon, marker. You're like so artistic, I feel kind of embarrassed. No, no. No, because I'm just like, you know, embarrassed.

No, it's just ADHD, I think. Yeah, you think so? Yeah, it's just, I gotta be... Gotta be doing something? Yeah, there has to be something coming out of me. Like in the morning, I have this notebook at the breakfast table, and I'll just start writing stuff, or I'll start drawing something. That's really cool. Right? What about music? Does music do it for you as well?

I've never been musically inclined. I've tried. My mother tried to get me to play the cello. I've tried to learn how to play the guitar and the piano, but something, it doesn't click with me. Yeah. I don't know why i mean i appreciate it like i of course i went when i see someone play like a piano or guitar outside like let's say at the airport or like you know let's say at the you know like like street performers yeah those are the people that move me because they're there for passion yes right you know they might make a few bucks in the hat or something but you know i like, you're out here and you see their face. It's like, they love, this is who they are. They love what they do. Right. Without it, they're going to die. Right. This is their fertilizers. This is their

water. And, and I trip out and I just absorb it. I'm like, God, they are so passionate. It's inspiring as a human being. Like you are out here because you love this. Yeah. I think, I think there, see, I know what I have in my life that does that for me. Wait, what's that? Stand up.

No doubt. Yeah. Oh yeah. Like when I, when I do stand up, like I don't get paid for doing stand up. I get paid to go to your town. Yeah.

Once I'm there, the stand up is free, but you got to pay me to go there. But once I get on stage, it's for nothing. And I get a sense of, you know, I'm where the universe would have me be. And it gives me a sense of peace when I'm doing it. I know I'm good at it.

I know that I'm meant to be doing it. I just get a feeling of well-being. Is that something that you get from writing is it something you get from being an actor is it like because i've heard actors talk about on a movie set sometimes they get that kind of feeling you know that just kind of i i'm where i'm meant to be i understand everything how it all works it it's all fine i i think after that after the fast and furious I, I think after that, after the Fast and Furious movies, right. And the, the, I guess the impact that the character Han that I play in the film. Right.

It's a legacy character. No matter what you do in your life, you, it'll always be in there somewhere. So they'll always talk about it. Yeah. I think when I, you know, after a few years of, you know, being in that film, you know, and then, you know, I'm, and then I'm going around America or wherever I'm traveling, and you see what that franchise, how it affects people. And I really dismissed it.

I discredited it. I'm like, ah, it's a movie about cars. Who cares? It's just a popcorn flick. Who cares? And then after Paul Walker passed away yeah I

really you felt like you were like wow these movies actually mean something because you know father and children

they went to these films they grew up together I'm one of them right yeah and there are all these shared experiences

right around this film I was like I guess this is what I was meant to be doing. You know, it's like, and. Certainly part of it. Yeah. And I think owning it like that is good. I think it's a sign of maturity as an artist when you go,

I was wrong about this. And it actually is, it's important. Yeah. Do you ever see a movie called sullivan's travels yeah you know when he's like you know and so he's like i don't i don't want to make silly comedies anymore i want to make important movies and then when he goes to that big tent and he sees everyone laughing at that and he's like oh i get it yeah it's like it's important to bring whatever you can It's important to bring whatever you can.

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Listen to the true story of the fake zombies on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know, I ask most people this just because I went through it with the drugs and alcohol and all that kind of stuff. Did you ever go through that? No. I can't drink, first of all. But I did have a lot of problems with cigarettes.

Yeah, I get that. But see, I think with cigarettes, nobody smokes cigarettes and doesn't have a problem. Well, the cigarettes represent just me being in a bad place, me being depressed, me being anxious, me being insecure. Yeah. Right? And I think if I wasn't allergic to alcohol, like I literally am allergic to alcohol. Yeah, me too. But you can drink past that, buddy.

I mean. No, no, no, no. I can't break down the alcohol. My mother was exactly the same. And I became an alcoholic. Really? Yeah. My mother was exactly the same. And I became an alcoholic. Really? Yeah, my mother was exactly the same. She would break out in this.

If she ever tried it, she would get this huge rash. Is that what happens to you? That's what happens to me. So then I get sick. Right. But I feel like if I could drink, I probably would have had some serious issues. You've got that vibe, if you don't, I probably would have, like, you know, had some serious issues. You've got that vibe, if you don't mind me saying so.

Really? Yeah, you've got a kind of, well, see, I like people who have got that vibe. I kind of like you. And I think you have that kind of thoughtful, kind of troubled, kind of searcher thing. Yeah. And I think that's, are you a religious person? No. What about any kind of spirituality thing?

Spirituality, I think it's kind of like a concoction I kind of created on my own of what it means to me. Like even prayer. Yeah. Like, I always thought prayer was like you pray to a God and ask for things. Ask for stuff. Yeah, I don't think that's what it really is.

It's not. These days, I pray. It's not praying and asking for something. It's actually just expressing gratitude. That's a great prayer. If you can get to that.

I think gratitude for anyone, if you can find it in yourself, is a magic bullet, especially for something like depression. I'm not talking about clinical depression. I'm not a doctor. I don't know how to deal with that. But like the down feeling that's not inside that kind of pathological spectrum, I think gratitude can really help you out. Yeah. And also, I mean, a friend recently opened my eyes to what I feel like my problem is, right? Yeah. There are times where I get so dark. Yeah.

I can't get out of bed, and I can see how it affects the people around me that love me, like my wife especially. Yeah. And he's like, you know, it seems like you're always at your best. Like there's two versions of me. I call it like the JV version.

Right. And then there's this varsity, like team captain version. Right. And when I'm this version, I'm like, great to be around. Like, you know, my career is great. Like I'm productive. Like, you know, things are like actually moving. Like my house is in order. Like my cars all work. Right. I'm productive. Things are actually moving. My house is in order.

My cars all work. They actually run. They're not leaking oil. They're just abandoned in someone's backyard. Everything's kind of torqued, if you will. And then this JV version of me shows up. And it's just chaos. I start getting weight. I start smoking. What's the JV? Where does that come and it's just chaos. I start gaining weight.

I start smoking. What's the JV? Where does that come from? It's like junior varsity. Oh, junior varsity. I get it. You got the varsity team. It's like the A team

and then you got the B team. It's kind of half-assed and everything. Everything's like unkept. I'm just gaining a bunch of weight. I do that as well. Oh my God. And that gets worse as you get older too does it?

oh my god I'm 61 now like I swear to god if I look at like a potato I like gain a pound that's what it is

well I mean I don't even have to eat it but this JV version is consuming things you shouldn't be consuming yeah you're just eating a bunch of shit

and like just trying to I had a I just eating a bunch of shit. I talked to a friend of mine who was talking about Zempik. Oh, the weight loss thing? Yeah, the weight loss drug thing. And he said he'd lost a ton of weight. I said, did you do the Zempik thing? And he said, yes, I did. I said, does it work?

And he went, well, he said, clearly it works. I said, what does it do? He says, well, you're just not hungry. I went, dude, I haven't been hungry since fucking 1974. I don't eat because I'm hungry. I eat because I'm sad. That's why I eat. He said, well, I don't think it would work for you then.

You know what I mean? It's like there's always plenty of food around for me. I know that I can get something to eat. I don't know how often I eat because I'm hungry. I eat because I'm like, eh. Yeah. Me too. I want to feel better get something to eat. I don't know how often I eat because I'm hungry. I eat because I'm like, eh, eh, eh. Me too.

I want to feel better. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think it's a comforting thing. Yeah. So I think, to be honest, Dan, it's a deeper psychological problem that Ozempic's not going to touch it. So you don't need to waste your time with that.

No. Yeah. Yeah. So I just, so I have to run. I do that too. Yeah, really? Yeah, yeah.

I run on treadmills now though because I like riding treadmill. Yeah, I run on a treadmill because if you like, if you go, ah, I'm done, just get off in your home.

Yeah. And also, when you get older, your knees and your joints and stuff, it's a lot easier just to run on treadmills. Yeah.

Because you can be consistent on a treadmill. Yeah. If you're outside of the way, there treadmills yeah cause you can be consistent on the treadmill yeah if you're outside there's always a reason why you can't do it yeah

treadmill you just go just go away do you have a room in your house with a treadmill in it no see that's what I do like do that

I'm thinking about doing that but I kind of want to you won't regret it I want to get away from the house there's like a gym like two minutes away and you don't mind doing that?

No. Well, then do that. That's fine. You don't need to listen to me. You got it sussed out. You're fine. Talk to me about your podcast. What do you do in your podcast?

Because everyone has a podcast now. It's like having a tattoo or something. Well, it's kind of like this. This is what the podcast is. It's very similar. It's very similar. It's like the reason you meet or the, you know, the connective tissue is like this connective tissue with cars, right? So there's like race car drivers, there's like car builders, or there's like we had John Oates, who's a big car guy from All in Oates, right? It's like, if you just love car, like, you know, like you're Morgan.

It's like, hey, you actually understand like what that means to be a car dude to love his car the Morgan I love that Morgan I have a couple of Land Rovers too okay those are great too yeah I love those too oh my god

they're so cool if you ever need yeah what are yours or your Land Rovers well I have the 20 I think 2013

or 2014 when before they stopped the old model hundreds you know when they started they lost the old model 100s, when they started, they lost the certification or the European Union said, you got to have to put in all the safety stuff.

And they said, all right. So they had to change the whole model. Well, I have the last model before that. Like an 80s or a vintage? It looks like that. Yeah. I want to get a series one. I know where to get them.

I would not buy it in the United States. Why? Because they're much more expensive here. Oh, yeah, they are. You buy it in the UK. You'd buy it in the UK and ship it, and it would be cheaper than buying it here. And Dubai, too.

They're, I think, super cheap. Really, in Dubai? Yeah. I've never been to Dubai. Yeah. I imagine it's a stop on the Fast and Furious tour, though, isn't it? I've never been

either you've never been in Dubai yeah I have friends that come from Dubai and they're like oh there's

police cars or Bugatti Veyrons and stuff Lambos and stuff yeah it's crazy do you ever I did this thing once

where I rented a Lamborghini Huracan just because I was in LA and I thought I just rented because my son was really young I think it was one of your fucking movies actually and then he said I went on Lamborghini Huracan just because I was in LA and I thought I just rent it because my son was really

young it was I think it was one of your fucking movies actually and then he said I went on Lamborghini he was only like four or five or something so we rented a Lamborghini Huracan then I had to go to work and the thing was sitting at the house at the weekend so my wife had to go to Whole Foods and the only car that was there was the Huracan she's like she can drive in she's like fuck I'll take that so she goes to the Whole Foods and the Huracan. She's like, she can drive it. She's like, fuck it, I'll take that. So she goes to the Whole Foods and the Huracan and she gets her groceries

and she comes down and she started it up in the parking lot and it set off the fire alarm, the alarms and all the pre-assists for all the way around. It was so loud.

It's such a great noise though, man. Wow. Well, the Huracan's like the, it's a V8, isn't it? It was a V8, V10.

I don't know. I'm guessing. But it's big and it's noisy. Yeah. And it rattles like crazy. And I remember I drove it, like I opened it up a little bit on Hollywood Boulevard. It was just quiet.

And there were some tourists outside the Chinese theater. Yeah. And they were just like, wow, people cheering and stuff. Just because it's going rawr! It was fun. But I would never do that. Hey, I have a question to ask you. Sure, fire away. I read that you after high school, you went to be an apprentice electrician?

Sure, yeah. Why did you do that? I dropped out of school when I was 16. Okay. And there was a factory nearby, and they were taking on apprentice electricians. And it was a job. And it was 1978, and there was, you know, there wasn't a ton of it around and it was scotland and it was kind of i to be honest i think it was a bad thing i did because there were

probably other kids that really wanted that gig and and would have seen it through i i dropped even out of that after two years but did you learn how to i can, you know, I can say can you wire your car? Can you? No, no, but I mean, I can sort of a little thing here and there. But maybe if the car is old, I could probably figure out if I've got a schematic drawn, or I can look at the you know, look at the car, I can figure out. But all this new stuff with printed circuit boards and stuff and software now, no, like the older cars. Yeah, yeah. I could probably find my way around. I mean, there would be a few shocks

and disappointments along the way, but life's like that. That's an amazing talent. What, electrician? Yeah, to be able to like wire a car, and being an electrician, like I,

so, because I have these old cars, Right. you have to, a lot of times, hire, like you have to have, An auto electrician? Yeah, a have to have an auto electrician?

Yeah, a person, like an auto electrician, a wiring guy to come and basically create you a wiring harness for your car. Yeah, I couldn't do that for you. I couldn't put a wiring harness on your car. Look, if you're looking for some cheap work done on your fucking car,

you got the wrong guy. I can't do that. I really mess up your car. I can feel you angling. You know what? If you just come and look at it, it's just a kind of, I don't know what it is. It's something on the fuse board or something. No, I can't do that for you. I mean, in a

zombie apocalypse, if I've got a 1974 F-150 truck, I can probably get it started. But that's it. Do you know what I think? How are you, where are you emotionally with the electric cars? It's an, it's, I don't, well, okay.

So I was so anti-electric car. I don't have one. No, neither do I. Yeah. And I have no association with Hyundai. Okay. So, but I went to Korea for this traveling car docuseries, right? Right.

And auto docuseries. And I drove the EV, all EV Hyundai IONIQ 5. Right. And N-series, which is like their R version. They're sports versions. It's all tricked out.

600 plus horsepower. It has drift mode. That's crazy. Crazy. 600? 600. And it has fake sound. So you have options.

So if you want, you can go. You can make it sound like a proper car. Like a Huracan. Oh, wow. And it has like backfire. It's like... Right? And it has these subfire. It's like, right? And it has these subwoofers under the backseat.

So it starts vibrating and you're all like, and you know, and the steering wheel looks like a F1 race car and you can, you know, go to manual mode and you're like, you know, and it just,

and you downshift and it's like, and all these people in the street like, ah, hoodlums, you know, like this. Or you can go silent mode and, you know, grocery getter, right? So I was blown away.

And aesthetically, the car is designed perfectly for anybody that is a car enthusiast, right? That loves cars. I think they had a focus group and go, what do you need in this car? It's like, well, I want the seats to look like Recaros. And so the seats look like these Recaros, but they're factory. They're big enough. So they're not all tight, but they have that aesthetic. The steering wheel looks like an F1 race car steering wheel.

And they asked me, they're like, do you have any criticism over this car? And I was like, yes. It's like, I'm really into cupholders. Like I drive a minivan that has 18 cupholders. American car design? They sit down day one, black piece of paper, they draw a cupholder. Then start building the car out from that. That's the way it should

be done. But this car, they're like, oh, cupholder. And I go, yeah, where's the cupholder? Come on, man. This is like, you know, this still, I might have a family in here. It's like, I need cup holders. They pressed this button. It was like out of Star Trek. It was just like, phew, cup holder's gone.

And it comes out. And then you can get rid of it. So then you go like sports mode, right? Beautiful. I think I just pooped myself a little bit. Beautiful. That's amazing. Oh my God, this car.

Is it very expensive? It sounds very expensive. No, no, no, no, no. Come on. No, no, it's way cheaper than a Tesla I think by the time it lands in America so this is the

Ioniq 5 is already here but the N is going to be in blue Ioniq 5 N N I'm going to look out for it probably around 60-ish okay that's in the wheelhouse

that's not bad that's where it is 600 plus horsepower I mean that thing boogies I have owned an airplane that had half the horsepower of that. A 300 horsepower.

And that shit would go. Yeah. That's amazing. 600 horsepower. Feels like maybe too much. No. No, no, no, no, no. And then they brought out their drift version with the handbrake.

And then they had a, you know, because and then they had a soundtrack, you program the sound and so they had the drift sound in it where it sounds like a screaming lion, right? Right. And that thing is like, oh my god. But wait, how does that work

if you say to me, hey, I'm having an electrical problem in my IONIQ 5N, Craig. I'd say, I don't know about that. Or if you go to an auto mechanic, like anywhere, it's going to have to be someone who knows. You're talking about a piece of, like it's a computer. So you're going to have to go to, it's going to have to stay with the dealer. You're going to be piece of, like it's a computer. Yeah. So you're going to have to go to,

it's going to have to stay with the dealer and stuff. You're going to be locked into. No, no, no. You think any garage would be able to deal with that?

Well, it's like, so that's the same argument with the Teslas, right? Yeah. But now there are these kids that, you know,

the new generation of car guys. I suppose that's true. Yeah, of course. That's what they know. That's their car. So they hack it. They're like, we're going to hack the computer.

We're going to tweak it. We're going to modify it. So all of a sudden, opposed to 200 horsepower from factory or wherever it comes from, all of a sudden it's tuned to be like 500. Does it lose horsepower like a mechanical engine?

I think. Like over time? Like is it a battery? I'm sure, yeah, the battery goes, like a. Like is it a battery? Yeah. I'm sure, yeah, the battery goes bad. It's got to be, right? But I mean, but you know, like if you got an older car, like even if you replace the battery, you're still going to lose horsepower just in the engine capacity. I don't think so. I think so. Why?

Well, I don't know why, but I think that happens with an older car. We should look that up. Or maybe, you know what, people will tell us. Yeah. They'll get angry. Because I know that these cars, the batteries go bad. And then you can buy the new battery. Yeah, but then the old battery goes into the ocean and kills dolphins.

Yes. It does. So, see, I'm against electric cars because my theory is this. You are against electric cars? A hundred percent. Okay. Because we should use up all the fossil fuel, let's get it done, and move on. I think biofuel is the way to go.

It's a science problem, it's not an emotion problem, it's not a let's hold hands and sing problem. This is an engineering problem. We have to replace the fuel system that we have with a fuel system that's less dirty. It doesn't cause a horrible mess. And we already have the technology. There's biofuels. And there's a system of delivering it. There's tankers.

There's pumps. There's cars that would vary. Do you remember? Are you old enough to remember this? You might be. Like when... I'm 51. Oh, what? Yeah.

Fuck you, man. You moisturized or something? But I guess you would have to be. These movies have been around for a while. Yeah. No, but anyway, what I'm saying is the system is in place for biofuels,

and that's why I think we should go there. You know you can make diesel out of fucking anything. Yeah, cooking oil. Old banana skins. Anything that decomposes, you make diesel out of. And there's hydrogen cars too. Yeah, I don't know enough about

hydrogen cars, but they feel a little blowy-uppy to me. You know what I mean? No. Yeah! Hydrogen? What's the name of the... What's another name for the atom bomb? The hydrogen bomb. Yeah, yeah. So, nobody's making the...

No one's saying the biodiesel bomb. No one's saying the... True. The cooking fat monster. It's not happening. So I just think that that's my theory. It's not a frothy emotional problem.

It's not even, because all you have to do is make it economically exciting for the evil people that run the world. And all you have to do is say, well, biofuel, surely. They've got to be working on it. Yeah.

Well, there's a pushback now with the EV cars because a few years ago it was like, oh, that's the answer to everything

and now all this information is coming out. So, I think people are like, hey, there's the balance. Yeah.

And EV cars were selling like crazy. there's like, you know, it's not. Backlash. Yeah. Happens anyway, EV cars were like selling like crazy. Now, there's like, you know, it's not. Yeah. Happens anyway. Happens in everything.

Yeah. Yeah. All right. Look, we got no more. Let's have another one. Let's have another podcast where we will discuss

alternative fuel strategies for planet Earth. Okay. I mean, it's kind of boring. Fuck you, man. I'll see you next time. All right. Thanks, Greg.

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