Joy, a Podcast. Hosted by Craig Ferguson - The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson Reunion: Josh Robert Thompson & Joseph Bolter

Episode Date: July 30, 2024

The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson Reunion with Josh Robert Thompson who was Geoff Peterson the sassy robot and Joseph Bolter who was the Secretariat aka the sassy horse. This one is for all the late late show fans! EnJOY! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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about what brings them happiness. Today, a late, late show with Craig Ferguson reunion. Craig Ferguson will be here. Me, the one wearing the sunglasses, I won't be wearing them once we get started because I will be mocked. I would be mocked by my guests, who are Josh Robert Thompson and Joseph Bolter, who were respectively on the old late night show, Jeff Peterson, the sassy robot, and Secretariat, the sassy horse. Secretariat the sassy horse

well first the front end of the you'll find out warming up stretching a little bit stretching it's the joy podcast oh my god

Shadow came in and did an episode and he told us about when he lived in a shed and he was just doing cocaine all the time and he had guns. Wow. And he was living in a shed in Topanga with guns.

But he still had that voice. I was in Topanga and I had guns. I had a Winchester. I think he had like Magnums and not Magnum the ice cream I understand you know

Magnum the gun the gun yeah alright so this is my pitch so we do a podcast together the three because this is the reunion yeah this is it

so 10 months after robot horse right right okay so for those of you who don't know during the

late night era of when we were doing it I was the guy and you were the robot and you were the horse. Correct. And I feel to this day still the best late night show ever made, maybe, or certainly ever made by us. I would say so. Certainly ever made by us. No, ever made, I think is safe. Ever made? Yeah. I think greatest late night talk show on at 1235 AM of all time.

Of all time? At 1235. 1237? Well, 1237, but what about early Dave? Early Dave was 1237. Oh, yeah. No, we're the number one. We were better than early.

Who had a robot and a horse? I mean, no one. No, that's true. What were you doing on that show was insane. Well, I wasn, that's true. What we were doing on that show was insane. Well, I wasn't doing it alone. What you were doing on that show was insane. We did whatever we wanted. Well, that was because of Dave.

Because Dave owned the time slot. We've talked about this. I mean, Dave owned the time slot. And so CBS paid no attention to us. That was the key. And that was the thing, though. Because they didn't pay any attention to us. We never get any publicity.

But I think that's kind of good. That was the thing, though, because they didn't pay any attention to us. We never get any publicity. Right. But I think that's kind of good because people now don't associate us with CBS, which is good because then we'd have to be on Blue Bloods and stuff. That's right. With Tom Selleck. Yeah, I like Tom Selleck. I am Tom Selleck. Oh, my God.

I didn't know you could do Tom Selleck. I played Tom Selleck on Family Guy recently. Oh, wow. Doing a commercial for reverse mortgages. A reverse mortgage is when you give money to the bank? Yeah, I think you take a loan against your own mortgage, or you take out money and then you owe more money. That sounds great.

Hi, I'm Tom Selleck. I saw an interview or a piece of something with Tom Selleck. Blue Bloods is finishing, and Tom Selleck. Blue Bloods is finishing. And Tom Selleck's worried about losing his avocado farm. He's got an avocado farm. I didn't know that. Yeah, he does. Because avocados, they grow in their herds.

The herds of avocados wander across the... Oh, yeah. Mexico? Sure. The plains. The plains of Mexico. Somewhere, yeah. But I think the cartels have the avocado cartels. Oh, they got that locked up? Sure. The Plains. The Plains of Mexico. Somewhere, yeah. But I think the cartels have, the avocado cartels.

Oh, they got that locked up? Yeah. I think that's a Netflix show. Is that right? Yeah. The avocado cartel? Yeah. The avocado cartel.

Netflix is different now. Because Netflix used to be... Good? Yeah. And now it's like, it feels like it's like Lifetime a little bit. Oh, yeah.

All right. So here's my pitch to you. Yeah, pitch it. All right. Man, Robot, Horse. It's a podcast, right? It's the three of us and we never have a guest.

I like it so far. Yeah. Because you're doing Tom Papa's thing, right? Yeah, it's a nightmare. We've got multiple shows. Booking guests is impossible. But if you have a guy who can do every voice known to man, you're in good hands.

Oh, that's true. Hey, everybody. Great to be here on Man, Robot, Horse. Right? So we go. Who's that? That's Morgan Freeman. I thought it was Bobcat Goldthwait.

Hey, everybody. It's Bobcat Goldthwait. How are you doing? I love Bobcat Goldthwait. He's a genius. Yeah Bob K. Goldthwait. How are you doing? I love Bobcat Goldthwait. He's a genius. Yeah, I know. He's a great director. He's a great director.

He's a great filmmaker. Didn't he do Jimmy Kimmel's show for a long time? He directed that for a long time. Yes. But he's made some great films. I think he lives in the woods now. He lives in a shed with cocaine. That makes sense.

And guns. Oh, with a Winchester rifle and a.45. See? Avocados. I work at Avocado Ranch. Hey! That's what happens when you're coked out.

Have you got an avocado? Have you still got your cats? Yeah, yeah. How many of them? Three. Three. There's three, yeah. Three, yeah.

You get three cats and their names are? Fizgig. Right. Hemness. Okay. N. And you get three cats, and their names are? Fizgig. Right. Hemness. Okay. Named after Ikea furniture. And it's a line of fancy Ikea.

The Hemness. The Hemness. And then Teddy. Teddy, okay. Teddy. Which is, and you've now got a baby. I've got a baby, yes. Wow.

Yeah. Congratulations. Not a baby cat. No, a real human baby. A human baby a human baby wow now did you uh buy this baby no i made him yeah yeah i made the baby i made the baby with uh using sex power using sex power with jay here's a fun fact only took me one one attempt to make a baby strong wow yeah yeah you're not shooting planks pat look how much hair is on joe though and it's

like playing the horse all that time yeah yeah you know that gives you the virulent power which by the way unbelievable performance as the horse i mean you were doing yes and improv right saying nothing not able to speak and only able to move this head back and forth my favorite bit of all time for me personally on the show yeah is the which salsa do you like yes yes that was a spicy or mild yeah and it would go on and on and on and you would die laughing well because it didn't make any sense at all and looking at it now i i kind of think that show would be impossible. No, you couldn't do that. It was actually impossible then.

It was only because nobody really knew it was there. Right. Because the ones who knew about it knew about it. Yeah. But there was no publicity. There was no kind of billboards or commercials. Occasionally, they would make us go to a Super Bowl. Oh, God, yeah.

Oh, my God. Remember we went to the Super Bowl. Oh, God, yeah. Oh, my God. Remember we went to the Super Bowl in New Orleans and there was a power cut? Oh, yeah. There was a power cut in New Orleans when there was a... Yeah. I don't know if I can survive in that corporate environment because of the Super Bowls.

Like the last time we were at the Super Bowl, and look, look, I get nothing against football. It seems like it's a very popular sport. It's just down to me. I like hockey. I like, you know,

crochet. Sure. Who doesn't? Gymnastics. Swimming. Yeah. Swimming's great because it's only every four years.

Right. Like, you know, the Olympics come and people are like, are you going to watch the swimming tonight? Yeah, I watch it every week. What do swimmers do for the four years?

I guess they practice to the Olympics, right? Yeah, you got to swim all the time. A lot of practice. A lot of swimming. Yeah. People say to me, oh, you miss doing late night? I'm like, no. Well, you had a different perspective.

I mean, you were. I didn't grow up with it. That's right. You didn't have that. I think that was it... I didn't grow up with it. That's right. You didn't have that. I think that was it. I didn't have anything to reference it with. Right, right. Because like LaSalle,

I would go chat with LaSalle now and again about the Johnny Carson days. Right, because Peter LaSalle, who was the producer of Johnny Carson, Johnny Carton was his original name. Johnny Carton. And they used to sell milk at the show. Johnny Carton. It was an animated show. It's true, Johnny Carton. And they used to sell milk at the show, the Johnny Carton, it was an animated show.

It's true. Johnny Carton, I think it's on Netflix now, Johnny Carton. Here comes Johnny Carton. Here's Johnny. Hey everybody, now this is interesting. Vitamin D. Vitamin D.

2% milk, there's also skim milk, which I enjoy, which is, this is interesting. Avocados did you know i don't know how you guys feel about this but i stay away there was no real social media stuff when we were doing this there wasn't really the pickup that there is now this headless borg that takes every piece of content and just throws it out there all the time and always looking for a problem. And then you get the tabloid websites which take tweets or comments on YouTube

and use it as like people are saying. It's in the article. Yeah, you go, are people saying? That's right. You're right. Maybe five people said it or maybe one person said it. And then, oh, by the way, I downloaded ChatGPT. I've got the AI now in my phone.

Uh-oh. It's awesome. Yeah. I asked it today, write me a short Craig Ferguson routine about giraffes. Did it? It did. And I was like, this is about as good

as the material we were getting. So now you have a real Jeff. Now Jeff is fully realized. Yeah, no, I, but Jeff, see my pitch

for Man, Robot, Horse is this, is that Jeff is back, but that now reconstruction is so good that you can just like wear those pants. It's just me.

And just be Jeff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is what we were going to do anyway. those pants it's just me yeah yeah yeah which is what we were going to do anyway we did it once right we had a whole idea i don't know if you remember this was in the the first studio the smaller studio the original studio right i think we were going to do flashbacks to the different eras of the late late show that's right it was the 1970s one and you you were saying, you were Jeff Beardson going, I'm going skydiving this weekend. Oh, we were going to come up with different ways.

Different ways that Jeff died. That's right. My favorite line in that one was, we were talking about Steve Guttenberg. And I said, Steve Guttenberg, oh, he's the biggest star in the world. His star will never fade. Very mean. I'm sorry, Steve Guttenberg. Do you know, have you met steve yeah one time he's really lovely pleasant guy he's very nice yeah he did he told me that thing about it might even have been on late night when he was on he said the stages of your career are who's steve gutenberg get me steve gutenberg get me a steve gutenberg type. That's exactly it. Wow, that is it. Yeah, I know.

Boy, is that true. Fucking Hollywood is like terrifying. I didn't know how to handle that. Well, after the show? Yeah, I didn't know. Yeah, it's weird. It's weird when you're in a big thing. I felt that way after the Drew Carey show.

I was like, I don't know what the fuck I'm going to do. Yeah, right. And then late night turned up and I was like, okay. Yeah. And then after late night, I was like, don't know yeah right yeah and then late night turned up and i was like okay yeah and then after late night i was like i'm so tired but you've been doing stand up stand up and we we toured for a while i mean you i opened for you for a while yeah you did didn't you yeah did a little bit after as well how was that i've always wanted to know it was terrifying because i listened when you guys did this before your first was, or one of your first gigs was like Radio City and Venetian. Yeah, I lied and said, you know,

what am I going to say, no? Yeah, cause I said to you, have you done stand up before? You were like, yeah, sure, no problem, excellent. Yeah, you got it, man. One time at Miyagi's Japanese restaurant on Sunset. They used to have a comedy night. If you can play there, you can play there.

Miyagi's, yeah, I mean. Once you do play there, you can play there. Miyagi's. Yeah, I mean. Once you do Miyagi's, it's straight to Radio City. It's fine. So it was Miyagi's right to, I think the Venetian was the first. That's so funny. And it went well.

And then, but yeah, when did you, what was yours? Craig's a very practical guy. So his was like, we had to do, we had to record some shows during that time. And rather than bring on extra people, he was like, you just do it. And then I said, okay, we'll see how it goes. So I made the mistake. I practiced just in my bedroom for like a week or so. Good feedback there.

Yeah. And then... You didn't do it for anyone? I didn't do it for anyone. That's good. That's good. Yeah. Because I thought, why ruin the material?

I don't want to waste it. Don't waste it in front of people. Keep it fresh. Yeah. So I was peak skill, maybe. It was somewhat upstate New York. Right. That's perfect.

Over 1,000, 2,000 people there. And then that was the first time I said it in front of anyone. And to Craig's credit, I bombed so hard that, but he didn't give up on me. It took about four shows, three or four.

I didn't notice. Yeah, he was, he didn't affect his show. He's napping. He's napping. I'm like, is it time to go on?

Yeah, that's true. I said to Tobias one night, what direction is the audience when I walk out? What direction is it? Left or right? That's right.

They push him out toward the stage hey everybody hey hey I didn't know you bombed I bombed the first one

so like bombed and then immediately was like alright I gotta probably change all this material yeah got a little bit better

the second night I think the third night I wanna say was New Jersey I mean these are all like the smallest audience was 1500 people yeah those beautiful theaters yeah and then by like the fourth night i it started working but what i did was really i made like craig making fun of me the punchline to every joke and that killed and like kind of brought it back to the show wait did you did you do my voice

did you like do an impersonation of me no but I did hear on the last time when you were on, you did Craig's voice to him. Yeah. And what did you think of that? See, I don't hear my voice like you hear my voice. Right, right. So when you do my voice, I'm like, no, no, my voice is much deeper than that.

And I've got, you know, and I'm sexier. It's Mrs. Doubtfire, usually. Yeah, but you hear my voice. Hey, listen, man. If you're early, you're on time. early you're on time if you're on time you're late hey find another way that's my favorite one my favorite my favorite phrase is find another way find another way when i was this thing when i was mad at jeff yeah jeff arnold yeah yeah jeff arnold was snorting he had like some sinus problem and so craig's trying to take a quick nap before the show Jeff's in the other room going

and then you just hear hey Jeff find another way man and it really is applicable to all of life find another way find another way I say it all the time yeah it's tricky it is yeah I use it as well it's it's great it's so funny It's so funny. It's just perfect passive aggressive. Oh, I don't know if it's passive. I think it's straight on. It's an instruction. It is a very clear instruction. Find another way.

That's when we were rolling. We had our own plane. Oh, my God. We had the plane and the bus and all the hotel rooms. You know, it was probably costing me about half a million dollars a year to be on the road. Just in fuel. Just hotel rooms and snacks for you motherfuckers. I mean, at a certain point, were you guys touring when Bradley was out with us as well?

These were in the before times. I don't think it would be cool now, but Bradley, who was a little person. They were Bradleys. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And Bradley was,

he was a little person and he was dressed as a leprechaun. Oh yeah. With gold paint. Yeah. And he would, he'd go out and dance a little bit.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's probably not cool. That video, we have that video of us doing the thing in vegas that's right and uh yep there's bradley dressed up like a leprechaun you know what i mean i didn't feel like it was i don't know no he didn't feel that way no no i didn't feel like i was being disrespectful to bradley you know he loved it he loved it it was work he was a working actor he loved it

he had nothing but respect for you he was part of the thing he was totally a part of that show the early days of that show there were a lot

of different characters that were part of that show I was thinking about that I don't know if you guys remember this this was really

early on the character Fiona the Scottish stalker no no yeah it's funny because you know that uh that thing on

netflix now baby reindeer baby reindeer right so i was watching i went wait a minute i remember something this and there's no video of it but there used to be a thing and it was an actress and forgive me i can't remember her name but she was very good and she played fiona the scottish stalker and there was an intro music and it was Fiona the Scottish Stalker Fiona and Craig can't stop her Fiona she will not be ignored I will not be ignored Craigsy and then she came on and she would do this thing of like she was following me and stuff and it kind of you know it was before you took over and took over all of that stuff you know i mean but early on there was like different

actors would come on and do little bits and pieces and then you know you put them all out of work you did them all you know this was first year this is maybe the first two years first two years i think fiona the scottish stalker and it was a Scottish Stalker, and she was heavy. I mean, it was very Baby Reindeer. That's very funny. I know, I just think I was before my time. You did a lot of sketches. Very sketch heavy that first year.

It was almost like the Benny Hill show. We actually did a Benny Hill show. You did the sped up racing round. I remember we went out and there was like there was a little person uh-huh and girls in bikinis and stuff and everybody chased everybody around right speedy up music but at some point you went okay i kind of want to do these remote uh sketches things well because you have to turn up early and, you know, or. I'm Angie Martinez.

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Yeah, it got so ridiculous. The intro music or the reel beforehand would be playing, and I'd be like, all alright, time to get started. You'd be the same. I'd blow in about 20 minutes before show time. What are we talking about today? We'll figure something out. And that's what happens. You just end up talking about it. And that's what I think we should do with Man, Robot, Horse.

The new podcast. It seemed when I burped there. That was unplanned. The moments like this, you're going to get more of. More burping? Yeah, more burping. Well, you don't want to burp

in front of people you don't know. I think it's okay. I think it says welcome. Makes you feel comfortable. I don't know. I think it's rude. Well, what about gas? What about passing gas?

That's a must. You know what? It makes me miss Larry King. Oh, you think of gas. Oh, man, I loved Larry. You saw the night he took off when you were you had some big paying job doing a commercial let me tell you what we never talked about that but the way i found out that celebrities were going to be doing jeff's voice yeah for two weeks i had to go to i was i was going to south africa to shoot these insurance commercials. More Than Insurance was a company in the UK.

I was more than Freeman. So that was the final part of my contract. I had to go and do this. You had to go and do it, right. So as I'm walking out of CBS Television City, I'm walking out the door, Michael Natis, producer Michael Natis, in his way, as I'm walking out the door says oh Josh it's

real quick just so you know have a great trip we're gonna have celebrities filling in every night doing Jeff for the next couple weeks take care and I was like I would freak you out I was I was. Why? Because we had built this thing. We had this rapport and this character. And then I was up my own ass. But I was like, oh, shit. They're going to know who the person is doing the voice each night. Right.

Because you're going to say it's Larry King or whoever. And they were all really, I mean, Larry King was great. He was very funny. But he wasn't doing what you were doing. No, not at all. You were doing the whole thing. Of course. I was thinking about it. I think't doing what you were doing. He was doing the voice. You were doing the whole thing. Of course. I was thinking about it. I think Larry, were you there

when... Yeah. Did you see how they were doing it? The setup? I forget who it was, but someone was doing the... I think it was Bob Oshack. Writer Bob Oshack. I think he operates Bill Maher. I think he does. You're right. Same remote. He's very good at it.

It is the same remote. Can you do Bill Maher. You're right. Same remote, same thing. He's very good at it. It is the same remote. Yeah. Can you do Bill Maher? I thought... I could probably figure it out. Yeah, it's... It's very whiny. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay. It's like that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think... So I think you're right. Bob was puppeteering with this remote, watching Larry talking to a mic and then trying to time Jeff's mouth movement.

It was such a disaster. That's why it was funny. That's why disaster was kind of what we did. And that I think began, do you guys remember the first Magic Week? Oh yeah. The first Magic Week when we had

a bunch of magicians like really off the strip magicians in Vegas. Some the strip magicians in Vegas. Like some of them not even in Vegas. It was like, you know, Scottsdale Magic Club or the Reno. The Incredible Rami. Yeah, yeah. How you doing, folks?

Yeah. I mean, that's too good already. It's too good. But the thing was. I love it. And it was early on. And everybody, like the executives and Peter and all that, I was like, these magicians are terrible.

And I was like, I know. It's fucking great. It's brilliant. I really love it. This is what we're looking for. That's the show. Bad magicians, this is the show. Yep.

And it kind of took a while, I think, for them to understand that disaster was the name of the game. Like, you know, the robot doesn't really work. You know, the horse is crap. But it's not really crap. It's just cheap. It's cheap. It's cheap. It's under the guise of being cheap, which it was.

I mean, they didn't, you know, we were ignored. The show was completely ignored, which was good. Yeah, good and bad. I think when we went to the bigger studio was too much I thought it was I don't know

I think the bigger studio was the last two years of the show it was yeah and the bigger studio for me although we lost something

that element of the basement we did gain the fireplace that we would throw the log in and I think Jeff really took over in that big studio.

There was no more puppets. There was no more things. There was a stable for Secretaria. An entire stable. A stable that they built. You would just see when you were standing there, like in the stable door was in front, was the back end of Secretaria involved

or did you just stand with it hanging loose? Yeah, it was just me. And then he had a little chair. And if we felt like it was go time, he would jump underneath and grab my hips. Well, it'd be quick. Cause he'd say, who's that at the door?

And you go, Oh shit. And then we do it. But that was like, uh, so it was just hanging like a scrotum behind you, the empty horse. So there were two,

there were two guys. So first it was Matt Kugler, Matt Kugler. Yes. Right. And then who, who was, and then Ryan McGowan, Ryan McGowan was the second. So there were two guys. So first it was Matt Coogler. Matt Coogler, yes. Right. And then who was... And then Ryan McGowan. Oh, Ryan McGowan was the second.

So there were only two. Ryan has like 14 kids now. He does have a kid. Does he really? He does have one? Oh, he has one. At least one that I know of. Okay.

And then before that, there was a guy, Alex Burnett, who did it briefly. He was like one of the original, original guys. This is like the Pete Best of Secretariat. Yes. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. He did it briefly. One of the original, original guys. This is like the Pete Best of Secretariat. That's right. Yeah, he did it. And then he left.

He got another job. And then that's when Kugler took over. But you were always the front. Always the front. Did you start in the show? You were like an intern or a PA? I started as a PA. Right.

I was just like a fill-in for one week. And then they would bring me back whenever there was an opening, and then once someone left, they just hired me. So that joke is true then. So you would say they're just a couple of interns. That was a running joke. It was. So that was true in the beginning.

Yeah, it kind of was. Yeah. What happened was, I think it was the Kentucky Derby or something, and somebody said, there's a horse suit and I was like oh fine fuck it hey Mr. Ferguson there's a horse suit back there great let's use it

alright put it in that's great have you got any shite magicians yeah we got Ronnie the Great from Koima the one I remember that really I remember was a quick change artist I think it was an old Korean lady

okay she was a quick change artist and they would put a screen up and then she would do a quick change and then the screen would come down

and she'd be wearing a different outfit wow but the thing was like because of the way it was positioned I could see her changing

so you could see her changing. So you could see it. And I was like, okay. Look, I changed my clothes. Ta-da. But that was entertainment back then. That's when, that's before, like you run Netflix now, Joe, don't you? Not quite running, but I'm there. You're there at the time.

I'm there, yeah. Wow. You run like Netflix as a joke? You run that whole thing? I run their SiriusXM channel, so I do all the audio stuff and shows and stuff like that. Oh, my God. By the way, folks, at one point, there was a SiriusXM show that Craig did. Thanks for subscribing.

We didn't get a lot of people. Oh, yeah. Anybody remember that? It was a show. It was a whole show a lot of people. Oh, yeah. Anybody remember that? Was it a whole show? Trucker Radio? Yeah, people do remember. That's right. We did all of that.

I still hear from people. Do you? Yeah. What was your character name? I was Malibu Joe. Malibu Joe. So people still... That's not a character.

That's who he is. That's who you are. His name's Joey. He's from Malibu. It's Malibu Joe. It is true. But yeah, people still call in. They love that show.

Yeah. Some people ask for the archives. I don't think even Sirius has the archives. Shadow Stevens probably has it. I've got them. They're right next to the Winchester and the avocados. I remember on that show, we were trying to get sponsorship from Gant.

Oh my God. The clothing company. So we just started advertising for them for free to see if they would Oh yeah? Because I was doing some Megan and I did some big advertising campaign for Gantt. Oh yeah, it was like a show, right? Yeah, well, it was just like a

YouTube thing. Fancy commercial. Right. And I saw that. I was like, what? At home with the Fergusons. I'm like, what's he just going the Fergusons. What's going on? Well, you know, I don't know if you've heard of this thing called money. Oh, I've heard of it. Oh, I know what's going on. So they turned up and they said, hey, we'll do this thing.

I was like, okay. Sure. At first I said no, and then they said money. And I was like, oh, okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, all right. And then the Serious show, we did that in my garden shed. So I just kicked Shadow out

because he had been living there. Shadow was the sort of the Cato Cailin of... He was living there, his same hair. Cato Cailin, Jesus. I heard a noise outside. I don't know what it was. What was... I got you, Greg.

There was a slight bump and some kind of noise. Whatever happened to Cato Kaelin? Is he still alive? He is, yeah. In fact, he... Does he have a YouTube? He has a podcast probably. He had a radio show in the 90s on like 97.1 FM

here in Los Angeles. And I was like, I just moved here. And I'm like, wow, Cato, Kalen's got a show. This place is great. Yeah. But Cato gave a video message to address the death of OJ. And of course, and very wisely did not address OJ at all and just gave his condolences to the children.

Right. And of course to, you know, Nicole's family. And it was really great. It was really, really wise. He looked great. I don't know what he's doing other than giving condolences. Does he still have the... He's got some of the hair.

Frosted tips? Yeah, maybe. It was frosted tips. Frosted tips was the name of the show. I'm thinking frosted tips is where I'm going to go next. I need to see that. Yeah. I'd quite like to have that kind of Mark McGrath.

Sure. Yeah. I think. I think it'd work for me. Yeah. And like an intense tan. Yeah. Sure.

I'd like to see. When you come back and do man, robot, and horse. No, it's just man, robot, horse. Man, robot, horse. No, and we can work a bit in the building. It could be robot, horse, man, if you want. That's what I'm saying. We don Robot, Horse. We can work a bit in the building. It could be Robot, Horse, Man if you want. That's what I'm saying. We don't need to just mix it up.

Do you remember when we did the Japanese version of our show? We could never do that. No. Yeah, it was just at the end. It was called Super Happy Fun Time Hour with Robot and Old Man. That's right. Yeah, I don't think. It was just like a title sequence.

Right. I don't know if that's okay anymore. I think it's pretty funny. Oh, I think it was funny, but the sensibilities have changed a title sequence. Right. I don't know if that's okay anymore. I think it's pretty funny. Oh, I think it was funny, but the sensibilities have changed a little bit. They have, but nothing that we did ever came from us. It wasn't me. We were never mean.

No, no. We were just playing. We were always having a good time. But you could do a German accent. Oh, I think you can still do a German accent. This is fine. Very true. Yes, because Germans were so, so naughty

within the last hundred years that it is all right to still, they're still being punished a little bit. And actually, I think they enjoy it. And the one that I like to do is more of a, like, this type of accent. Yes, I think so. I like to do a German accent

from 1950s movies about the Second World War. Oh, yeah, it's great. And you do more sort of fruity Upper West Side German. Yeah, I was playing Sarage from the day. Oh, that's right. They had cheesesteaks. It was great. And we'd go on terror and we'd take a bit of cancer.

Thanks, Jess, if you remember that. It was great. It was such a great town. I've got to say, one of my best memories from the show was when we went to Scotland we had a bus right it must have been a bus and you were out filming a ton and we would just sit

on the bus and he would do these characters some of which were like the catering guy from the meals we'd have he could turn them around and he would just do this bit we'd narrate the whole trip. I mean, I think at that point in your life, though, you were like Stephen King of characters. Like, everything was coming all the time.

It's true, yeah. You were just, I mean, you must have been crazy. Because all of this stuff was coming all of the time. You were always doing something and that must be uncomfortable man to be that clever because he's so quick with him yeah i wish i was happier doing it i was yeah you were very unhappy yeah i was an unhappy guy i remember one one meal i don't even know if craig was there for but i when we met i was like you're doing all right and you're like i just threw my laptop across the room.

And then I was like, okay. Oh, I was going through it. But then two minutes later, we were like, hey, how you doing? You were doing bits and they were hilarious. I mean, that was the darkness, man. I don't know what I was so unhappy about. Relationship at the time, who knows? Who knows?

Oh, that's right. I think there was relationship. We did talk about this, though, that unhappiness is where it's kind of born. I mean, like when I started in late night, I'd just gone through a very unpleasant divorce. Yeah. Kept me going for a good couple of years.

See, there is that. There is that. It's that double-edged sword, you know. But I just wish I was more present, I guess. Sure. To really enjoy. We were in Scotland. We were in Paris.

It was so fun. Yeah. We were in New Orleans. It's like, hey, dummy, look what you're doing. Yeah. You know, so sometimes it's hard to see that what you're doing you know so sometimes it's hard to see that when you're in it

you know what I mean but I remember that as well I mean like I mean I look back on some of the stuff now I'm like I wish I'd kind of taken it in a little more

yes you know because I was just it was just like one thing but we were so busy the fact that you you know like yeah we went to Paris

and yeah we went to Scotland but we got there we got off the plane you go jet lag and you work 14 hours. And then you just collapse and do it all for five days. And then leave. And it's great, but it's not really a vacation. We weren't really there to go do things.

No. You threw on the horse suit everywhere we went. Yeah, I did the horse suit. Like in an open field or something. Which is closed now, but we did it under the Eiffel Tower. Now you can't even get underneath, I did the horse. Like in an open field or something. Which is closed now, but we did it under the Eiffel Tower. Now you can't even get underneath, I don't think.

It's like, it's all blocked off. I remember having an argument with the producers because they were like, they were saying, well, we can just hire local people for the inside of the horse. And I'm like, are you fucking crazy?

Like, we'll put French guys inside an American horse? Are you fucking nuts? What the hell is that? And they were like, they were freaking out at me because it's expensive to move a whole show over. I'm like, no. And then I said, oh, and we got to have, you know, hair and makeup. And they're like, we can hire hair and makeup in Scotland or France. Like, no, we have to take Thien and Lisa. We got to take them. We have to take everyone. It's all built in. It was a team in and that's the thing that I don't think

people understand about it because it was written but it wasn't written in the same way as other things were written, it was kind of all happened at once like the writers would write stuff there were writers and they were great they were a great team of writers

but the monologue was pretty much a placeholder. It was kind of there as a suggestion. Right. If it's a kind of flat night, then I'll just do the monologue. Right. As opposed to, like, I remember coming out, that joke I had to tell about a cat. Yes.

And I thought it was so funny, I couldn't get through it. And you or I were talking about it. So brilliant. Yeah. And it's like, not being able to do the monologue is funnier than doing the monologue, I think. Right. And that actually, I think that's actually Carson. Because remember when you, because Carson's the architect of these shows.

And when he did a joke and it bombed, that was better than when he did a joke and it didn't bomb. Yeah, Carson would sometimes take the boom mic after bombing and bring it down and tap it. I just want to make sure this is working. This is working. All right, we'll try another one. Here's another one. Yeah, they're rough tonight. Oh, they're sharpening their knives. All right. All right. Here's another one. Here's another one. And they just bomb and bomb and bomb, but he could make it work because we were all on his side. And we love when you, you know, when you would go off script, you know, it was just there. There wasn't a script to pull off that much.

But I'm saying, you know, I'm saying the funniest thing was the writers would come up with a monologue, a suggestion of a monologue. Here's the things we could talk about. Topical stuff, right? Some of it was very good sometimes. Very good. And we never got it. But there would sometimes be one or two pages that you would never get to at the end

that they would just keep putting, copy and paste. That's right. And you'd put them in the next night. And you'd never get to it. That's right, the next night. And you'd met Monday through Friday. Thursday would come.

The pages change different colors for those that don't know. That's right. Every time there's a rewrite, it starts as white. By the time it's like goldenrod or green, then you're really in trouble. But that was the beauty of it. But I thought the best shows, too, were when there was a leak in the ceiling.

All of that stuff that was out of everyone's control but would happen right beforehand. Then you had that. You'd come out with a mop, with a bucket, and you'd just go off on that. None of that was scripted, and those were real memorable monologues. Yeah, you know, it's a funny thing. I just don't know if it's available now. I don't know. I mean, maybe it is. Maybe people are doing stuff like that. People are too nervous.

It feels like everyone's so rigid, and it's like, well, we have to really make sure, and everything's micromanaged, and everything's poured over to the point where it's no fun. By the time you get to shooting the thing, all the fun's gone out. It's like us having a full conversation before we do the podcast. We always say, like, let's not talk anymore.

Right. Because that's what happens. You over-massage it. Well, and also I think that the outrage and kind of offense is kind of a currency now a little bit as well. It's like something to talk about. And I get it because if you're offended, then that's good. That gives you something to talk about. And basically, that's how you start a stand-up act, isn't it?

You go, I'm really mad at, you know, giraffes. And then it gives you a place to kind of work from. Which is fine. So if you have to fill your TikTok account every fucking day for no money i don't know like they say oh these influencers are making money i'm like are they though yeah a few yeah but not no yeah i don't i don't get it it's like so i make tv for free every fucking day i i don't know i got an hour to film man yeah but the, but the, I mean, it's like, it's short, I guess, the social media stuff, but it's relentless. Yeah, and those shows, those late night shows now are just making stuff to put online, which we never, none of our stuff went online, right? No, no.

That started toward the end. It does now. It does now, but toward the end of our run was when I think Fallon started to put clips. I think Jimmy was the first one that actually, he started doing hashtag things and stuff with Twitter. And I remember I paid no attention to Twitter and then Eddie Izzard was on the show. And Eddie and I are friends from way back.

And Eddie's still Eddie, but now she's Eddie. Right. But she's still Eddie. So I she's Eddie right and not but he she's still Eddie so I'm still cool to call her Eddie yeah but I've known

Eddie for a long time and Eddie said have you done this Twitter thing and I'm like no it was actually when it was Eddie and the

barbecue guy do you remember that that was a sketch we did really yeah there was Eddie in the barbecue

so Eddie which was the guy? Myron Nixon. Yeah, that's right. Was a barbecue chef. Okay. Right? And he was on the show.

And I went into the writer's room one day and I saw the names of the two guests on the wall. And it was Eddie and the barbecue guy. I said, well, that sounds like a sitcom. So we did. So we did an opening. It was like Eddie and the barbecue guy and there was a song eddie and uh this is eddie he's something and his rye but he lost all his money and he had to move in with the barbecue guy wow barbecue guy is myron and then we had Brad, because Myron wasn't there to do the little thing,

but Eddie was. We had Bradley, the little person, play a celebrity chef who didn't... Did he have a chef hat? Did he wear the whole thing? Oh, yeah. He had a chef hat. And he just danced around.

And it was... God, what a fucking mess. Oh, it's brilliant, mess. It was fine. But I think what's lost from that, and I think what's happening is that what goes viral and what it seems like people like now has that thing. Whenever I do it on social media, I get people that put it up,

so today on the podcast, it's nothing to do with me. It goes up or they'll say to me, is this okay? And I say, yeah, that's fine. Right. Put it up. And,

uh, but I don't do it, but if I ever do anything, like I was in the car a month ago or something. And I said to Megan, the seat here makes me feel like I've shit myself. And she said, all right,

well, uh, let's film that and I'll put it on tech talk. And, and that was like a billion views for me saying, you know, oh, a seat heater makes me feel like I've shit myself. Because I think that stuff still resonates with people and there's still a hunger for it, but it's harder to get.

Because it's controlled. Because, I mean, I don't know if you've had to pitch anything in this town recently, but it's fucking nuts. I mean, I don't know if you've had to pitch anything in this town recently, but it's fucking nuts. I mean, it's nuts. The amount of people who are on a Zoom call. Since the pandemic, no one talks to each other. They're just on a Zoom call. They've kept it that way.

Yeah. And then if you're pitching an idea, there's like 14 people or something. Yes. And they're all like, yeah, I don't know. Well, what if we, yeah, no, it's great. It's great. It's great, but no. But no, what if we don't do that?

But something completely different. But similar, you know? It's very odd to me. And I've talked to some heavy hitters from some, like I was talking to Phil Rosenthalhal who does that food show on your network yes yeah everybody feed everybody feed phil or somebody feed phil or you know and i and i was talking to and phil like i said phil do another sitcom and he said believe me it's not from a lack of trying yes you know it's like i just can't get it over the line it's like there are these gatekeepers people think there's not gatekeepers now but there's

more so yeah there's more of them i think it's not and it's not we're not talking about trying to be offensive we're not talking about like oh i can't say this this and this oh no no it's just it feels like a lot of people are pulling their punches, even in film, even in movies that I see. Right. It feels like they're holding back, and it's because there's so many different people at the top that have a committee of people

that are pulling everything back for the only reason really is to appeal to a larger market and not step on anyone's toes. That's the problem, I think. If you're trying to appeal to a larger market and not step on his toes. That's the problem, I think. If you're trying to appeal to everybody, you end up appealing to fucking nobody. I mean, it is that strange thing that, you know, I'm offended by that.

It's like, well, people are always offended by it. That's fine. Fucking George Carlin was always getting hauled over the coast. Red Fox, fucking, you know, everybody was always getting it. I mean, Richard Pryor. Richard Pryor. But it's the idea that you could be offended, hauled over the coast red fox you know everybody was always getting it yeah i mean richard pryor i mean prior you know but it's the idea that you could then you could be offended but then they take it a step further where then they can stop you from doing the thing yeah you can be offended by the thing but you don't get to stop me from doing it yeah i just don't look don't bother

yeah but is that still a thing i mean now i think I think if people get, like now there's a, you know, Netflix is particularly guilty of this, that you get guys going on Netflix making millions for saying things that they say they can't say, but saying them. Right. I know, that's so funny. It's like, what the fuck is this? Like someone's got their hand in my pocket here, I feel.

It's like, you're not allowed to say the things that I'm saying for a lot of money. Yeah. I feel like you are. Yeah. I think it's fake, the outrage and the fear and all that stuff. Both, yep. Yeah, it's kind of, it's a hard thing to judge. It's a real Wild West thing.

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we had the freedom to do anything. Yeah. And we did. And nobody bothered us. That was amazing. I know. It's just not possible. It was.

It was a real anomaly and stuff. And I was, it's why I still to this day with because really the reason we had it is because of david larryman because david owned the time slot and so cbs could be angry us and no angry us but the truth of the matter is they couldn't fucking do anything because it was dave and dave didn't give a fuck he was doing his own thing and didn't really notice us so so to this day when i see d, I'm still a little frightened of him because he was the only one that could actually cause us any trouble. And he never did.

He never paid any attention. But he was the only one that actually had power over us. The rest of them were kind of like, you know, they had to get in line behind Dave. So that was Worldwide Pants. That was his company. But then the next iteration of the show was CBS.

The next version of the Late Late Show with Corden. When Jimmy Corden took over, then yeah, then it was... That was CBS. That was CBS.

Worldwide Pants weren't involved then. And now it's gone. Is it gone completely? The Late Late Show is gone. I thought it was Taylor Williamson was doing it.

No, that's a show now. Right. Yeah. Taylor Tomlinson. Taylor Tomlinson. Taylor Tomlinson. At midnight, or now it's called After Midnight. After Midnight. So it's like a panel show, fake game show.

It's the old panel show that Chris Hartwick used to do. You did it at least once or twice. Yeah, I did it a couple of times. It was retooled and on CBS, which at the time I thought was a weird play, but Taylor Tomlinson is very good. Right. She's very good at it. It's not my kind of show,

but I'm really impressed. And it's a strange move for CBS, but maybe it's working. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I think in broadcast television, the numbers, I mean, I looked at late night numbers,

maybe about every couple of months, I look at them. Maybe not as much as that. I looked at them fairly recently. I'm like, Jesus Christ, we would get canceled like 20 times over for these numbers. I mean, there's like 300,000 people. Oh, wow. I mean, 300,000 people watching a show on broadcast television.

I mean, how is that? You can't make that work. What were we at? We were neck and neck with, I think we were about two bucks at our height. We were like two million. I think it went down to like 1.2-ish with attrition. It would go up to 1.5 if Tom Hanks was on or something. But really...

That's amazing. Yeah. But we were still a secret. We were still this incredible... Yeah. Which was the power of that show. I think the thing about it is as well, though, that I'm glad that we stopped when we did.

Oh, yeah. You know, I mean, I was crazy. I mean, I had to get up. When I look back on it now, how uncomfortable... I didn't even realize how uncomfortable I was. I mean, we've talked about how uncomfortable you were. Yeah. But I was too.

And I think looking back on it, it's the thing is the real warning of these things is you walk into a building every day and your picture is everywhere and your name is on all the stationery and all the literature everywhere, your name and your picture and everybody in the building is just making sure that you're fucking okay. You've got to be okay. That's the thing. Don't upset, you know. And that's not good, man. That starts to fuck with your head, man.

It does. You get paranoid. And I think by the end of the show, I was completely paranoid. I was like, nobody's telling. It was like being a cop. Nobody's telling you the truth. Right. Like, you know, nobody is telling you the truth in the office. and when you go out there no the only people i trusted were you two the robot and the horse

were the only people that were actually telling me because we were in it together we were doing our own we were doing our we had our own world you know and nobody else was in it you you love the thing that i figured out early on that made you laugh the most is when I would give you shit as Jeff for things that you were already aware of. Like, oh, the late night talk show host. Oh, another tough night sitting behind the desk. And you go, ah, fuck you. And it was this way of you almost talking to yourself in a way, but also blowing off steam and being like, thank God somebody can call out this shit.

And I think you were in the same thing. I mean, because I would go over and, you know, you were in the robot side. Why don't you have a drink? And why don't you hold that? And you'd be like, fuck you, man. But it would come out as, how dare you? But I knew it was fuck you.

But you'd lean into that but you'd lean into that you'd lean into that we talked about that last time where you if someone if I was having a bad week or someone was having a tough time

you'd go ah this is perfect they're gonna be on fire tonight let's lean into that but not in a mean way no it was just it's part of the gig

well it's also you're working with the only people you fucking trust yeah you know I mean I trusted my family of course but everyone else and it's also you're working with the only people you fucking trust. Yeah. I mean, I trusted my family at home. Of course, yeah.

But everyone else, and it's Hollywood. Yeah. And it's a weird place. Even for a late night talk show, that's the thing, man. It was just a fun show. Yeah. But there were some people there, man. The business end of it, it was like, come on, man, relax.

Yeah. We're just having fun. But I think everyone, this is, I remember when I started doing the show, the question that I got asked more than anything else at the beginning was, do you want to take over from Dave? I'm like, I just started in this job. I don't even know how to do this one. And you're talking about the guy who's the best at it ever.

I want to take over from him. And I don't even know how to do it at all. They're already sharpening their knives. I mean, it was fucking crazy. Probably patting him on the back. Yeah. Like,

Hey, you ever thought about taking over for Dave? Yeah. There's Dave the big man. Yeah. And they're going to Christmas sweater. Thanks buddy. I mean, it's by the big man. Yeah. Got that Christmas sweater. Thanks, buddy. Yeah, I mean, it's...

By the way, every Christmas, Dave, not really Dave, but you'd get a Christmas sweater. Christmas sweater or the jacket. A jacket. Yeah. And it was from Worldwide Pants. And enclosed in the box was a little card, very fancy font that would just say, you know, best wishes, Dave. But it was from Worldwide Pants, but the shirt would just say, you know, best wishes, Dave. But it was,

it was from worldwide pants, but the shirt would just say like pants. So you'd be walking around like an asshole with a shirt that said pants. People go, Oh, what's up? Do you remember towards the end, things were getting a little nutty and Rob Burnett was running worldwide pants.

Oh yeah. And I think it was, I was re-upping for the last two years or something. And Rob said, what do you want? I said, I want $10,000 in a shoebox and used bills. And he sent it

to me. Really? You know what's funny? I was involved in that too. Because he also, for some reason, wanted a sandwich in the box. He wanted a pastrami sandwich. Pastrami sandwich is 10 grand. There was panic. And it came to me. They were like, we need the pastrami sandwich.

I said, why? They're like, we're putting it in a box with $10,000 in cash. I said, that makes no sense. And it wasn't even fresh. It was like used bad money. Oh, wow. So funny. I remember that.

It was shocking. That was your task? Yeah. I think we got it from Cantor's, but it was the panic because everyone had everything lined up except for the sandwich. We need to get a sandwich right now.

They're like, we need it before the show's over. He's out of his mind. If he doesn't have it, it's going to be hell to pay. Oh, my God. It's so weird, Dwayne. You got it.

I got it. And I think for the next two years, whenever I, instead of going to the ATM, I would just go to the shoe box. So the shoe box is in my office and I was like, oh yeah.

Money that smells of pastrami. Oh, it was smelly money. But it was all right. Nothing makes you feel, I mean, I don't carry cash now. I don't like it.

How much, do you ever, I mean, I feel bad for Valley Parking guys and people. I know. Because nobody's ever got any cash. No.

It's like, you have to be able to tap. That was my first fear when I got here, was I was like, how am I going to tip this guy? How are you going to... Yeah, I was going to ask you guys, but now it turns out you don't have cash either. You don't have to tip me. It's included in the fee. Oh, really? Wait, what? Yeah, that's

so great. Great news. Wow, Hollywood, huh? Just tap on your way out. We'll Venmo you. That's great. you think you know somebody that's great I don't know how to Venmo oh yeah

sorry sorry sorry before we go though and we do have to go I want to talk a little bit about the fact that you're a dad now

yeah oh amazing amazing dude yeah so your son is now what 40 he's 46 46 years old.

Oh my God. Yeah, it's been a long time. He's 15 months. Right. When do you stop doing months? Is it two years? I think so. All right.

I just do whatever my wife does. She says 15. She said it yesterday, so I'm glad she did. So now I know. 15 months. So it's over a year. Yeah, he's over a year. Just say he's over a year.

And his name is zephyr his name is his name is yannick yannick yes but uh icarus that's an old late late show careful icarus careful yannick you go mad because somebody put that in a tweet or something just get out of the way real quick there was a a guy that tweeted, careful Icarus, because I used Jeff's Twitter one time to promote myself. Because I was like, I've had enough. Nobody knows who I am. Careful Icarus.

And I got all bent out of shape. I want to thank that guy, whoever you are. One of the great catchphrases of all time. And without that tweet, we would never have that bit. We would never have done it. And I would never sell that merch related to that unnamed robot skeleton. Carefully, Kudos. But Yannick? Yes.

Wow. Where does that name come from? It comes from an Italian tennis player who I just liked and I was, as a joke, calling when Jen was pregnant, I started calling the baby, I'd be like, Yannick, so did she. And then two months in,

we were like, should we just go and commit to this? We both really liked it. And it's great. We said it so much. We said it so much. And it became, it became a thing.

Yeah. We liked it. And that's a late night thing. That's what happened to it. We did things so much. Right. In the beginning it was like, Oh God,

this is, we did that with Angela Lansbury and Paul McCartney. Oh yeah. I remember, did I tellbury and Paul McCartney. I know. I remember, did I tell you about Paul McCartney at the Grammys? No. Oh God,

that was fucking terrible. Uh oh. I was presenting something at the Grammys and I walked out, it was to Katy Perry or something, and I walked out

and I just, you know, they write you a joke, some lame joke you have to read off that's gone through a committee so that no one's

going to get upset. So it's written on some giant teleprompter stupid joke like go out there and go out there look at that monkey boy and read that and go home and get the out of here be glad you're part of this showbiz extravaganza yeah so i walk out to to do the stupid joke and because it's the grammys the front row is all like people and Paul McCartney's sitting in the front row and he looks at me and I can tell he hates me.

Oh, because he knew? Oh, he knew, yeah. And he looked at me like, oh my God, a Beatle hates me. Wow. Thinks I'm a dick. And I can't blame him. I mean, we did show that picture

of Angela Lansbury. Over and over and over. You know why I did it? It's because we got a bad review in the LA Times and the show was starting out. The LA Times

gave it the show and I really tore it down. And this is when the stuff barred. How could you review that show? I mean, but it was right at the beginning.

Okay. Oh, because you'd taken over. You were the new... Right, I'd taken over and like the New York Post, I mean, I get some, because you'd taken over. You were the new... Right, I'd taken over. And, like, the New York Post... I mean, I get so terrible. The New York Post said, it's so awful,

he looks like he's wearing a wig. I'm like, how does that make it bad? Wow. That kind of makes it better. That's the look I've been going for my whole life. Yeah, yeah. It's so bad he looks like he's wearing a wig. It's all right.

I'm like, okay. But the LA Times tore it apart, and they said that I did the same joke over and over again without any apparent irony. I said, I showed I said, do we have a picture of Paul McCartney? And we showed a picture of Angela Lansbury and they got angry at it. And I thought, right motherfuckers. And I did it almost every show after that. Wow. The LA Times was bought and sold half a dozen times.

Everybody was and I was like we were still there. So it started as an FU and became this hilarious show that people still quote and still post

to this day. And it made me unpopular with Paul McCartney which I'm still very uncomfortable with. It's upsetting. Yeah, a little bit. It's the price you pay

I guess. But there was other times when, I remember we did a thing about Kevin Costner. And I was like, I can't take this. Dances with wolves thinks I'm a dick. I can't do it. And I had to apologize, and I apologized and apologized. And eventually Kevin Costner came on the show,

and I apologized to him on the show. I heard you said some things about me. Yeah, yeah. I didn't care for it. It's dances with wolves. I can't have dances with wolves think of my dick. That's a big one.

That's too much. Well, you would take things out. You know, many times you would refuse to say things maybe that were written in the monologue. Yeah. Because that's the thing.

You write stuff, you throw stuff out there, you decide what you're going to say. And there were a lot of times when you'd say, I don't think we're going to do that. Well, it takes time to get that kind of confidence, though,

because at the beginning, and that's like all the shit that I fucked up on that show, I think, was all in the first couple of years because, you know, they hand you stuff. It's like going to the Grammys.

They hand you a joke and say, do this joke. And you do it because you think you're meant to. You know, and then... I'm going to do it all. And then you realize, no, I'm not doing

your stupid fucking joke. That's true. And they go, okay, well, what do you want to do? And you're they're like ah all right uh i learned that from you i did when we were doing radio city um you had a big dance number at the beginning all these you know wonderful performers and we were choreographing this number and there was a video screen with jeff on there he and but the song that was picked was, uh,

we did not use it. The song they had was, uh, smack my bitch up. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's, and I remember you said,

you know, I don't think that's the best idea. Yeah. And I was like, what? And, and I, you know,

cause I'm like, okay, who cares? It's fun. We're having a good time. And then as the first time I kind of went oh yeah yeah I didn't think about that probably shouldn't do that I became kind of more aware of that stuff because when you're younger as a performer like you said you just do everything yeah you just want to hit the target I just want to be funny and desperate and you're you know you're in you're in the

crosshairs man everyone's watching you well see that, see, that's what I think is tricky for people who are coming up now. Like, so you're putting stuff out there that's digitized and now is there forever.

Yeah. And so jokes that you fuck up on, they're there. Right. You know, and you're going, people are going to,

if it works out for you, people are going to come and find that joke and try and tear you down with it. And that's just part of the process. It's part of how you fucking learn is making mistakes. You fuck up over and over again.

Right. You know, you meet people like yourself that kind of show you a different way, find another way. And you go, oh, that's interesting. I never thought of that before. So we'll finish this episode. Yeah. Like now. for so we'll finish this episode yeah like now and then here's here's the pitch for like in about i don't know maybe less than a year from now we started we'll have to discuss your contract with

netflix and i don't know what exclusives you've got going on right now a lot of exclusive right so here's but here's my pitch to you guys in about less a year, we do a podcast and it's just the three of us, man, robot, horse, robot, horse, man, horse, robot, man, whatever the, whatever the villain is. Change it up every week, yeah.

Every week. And we'll take a subject every week. Like, for example, episode one, Roman Empire. Episode two, Ottoman Empire.

Sure. By the way, it's just Empire. Born Rock Empire. Born Rock Empire. Born Rock Empire. I love Boardwalk Empire didn't we watch that on a tour bus

I think we did I think you definitely got me into it for sure was that Buscemi Steve Buscemi yeah it's crazy man he got punched in New York

yeah I got punched man I got punched it's crazy man somebody punched him somebody punched me man jeez I didn't know you could do Steve Buscemi

I'm doing it right now man jeez I got punched, man. Jeez. Wow. There's Empire Strikes Back. Empire Strikes Back. Empire Biscuits. Empire Biscuits.

And then Empire... Do you know Empire Biscuits? Was Late Late Show brought to you by Empire Biscuits? I think it might have been. Brought to you by Empire Biscuits and Aniston. Shadow would roll in and just do that. Anyway, so we're going to meet here in a year, in about a year's time.

Yeah, and we'll do an episode once a week. Only Empires. It doesn't have to be Empires. We can put a little hat. Oh, that's a great idea. We'll put a hat in the middle, and then these are the subjects that we're going to talk about today. We each pick one out, and I'll pick out Roman Empire, because that's the we're going to talk about today. We each pick one out and I'll pick out Roman Empire

because that's the one I want to talk about. And you can pick out Morgan Freeman's career and you can pick out tennis players from the 1970s. Sure. I just happened to get that. Yeah. And then we'll do that. Oh, that's perfect.

Yeah. So Horse Robot Man, we pick a subject out of the hat. Yes. One each. Put in by Thomas Zakopal. Oh, that's even better. Thomas Zakopal will put it in, because he'll produce it. And then that will just be the fourth. By the way, do you know, I was going to tell you this right at the beginning, Zakopal,

do you know what it means in Czech? Undertaker. Really? No way. It's so hard. It's the under, Tomas Undertaker. Tomas the Undertaker. Yeah. He way. It's the under Tomas Undertaker. Tomas the Undertaker. Yeah. He's like about right. Yeah. Very friendly Undertaker though.

Yeah. I guess I had an Undertaker on this podcast. Oh, did you? Yeah. William Villanova. I mean, sure you did.

Yeah. I listened. Yes. Oh my God. Yeah. We did that. That episode. That episode.

William Villanova. Great. He was funny unless he wasn't funny. No, he was good. You guys are fucking assholes. You're fucking assholes. I don't even know why we're friends. No, wait, what?

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