Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Buying Beverly Hills, Ozempic Babies, Real Housewives with Evan Real

Episode Date: March 26, 2024

Page Six Senior editor Evan Real is here! Kate Middleton shared her cancer diagnosis. But who was the woman at the farmer’s market? Rebel Wilson said Sacha Baron Cohen was an A Hole in her upcoming memoir. RHOC Shannon Beador is sued by her ex for money spent on a facelift. Selling Sunset’s Christine Quinn’s husband is arrested for domestic violence. Buying Beverly Hills season 2 is out - are they stealing storylines from The Kardashians? Ariana Madix bought a house and is Tom Sandoval a 50 year old Scott Peterson? JLo is getting mocked for her tales of the Bronx. Summer House’s Lindsay and Carl barely boned. RHOP Karen Huger is arrested for DWI and there is a major cast shake up. So much juice!  This spring, go to https://Booking.com for your ideal hotel or vacation home no matter where you go in the US! Book whoever you want to be on Booking.com, Booking.YEAH!  Frizz-free up your schedule with OUAI. Go to https://theouai.com and enter promo code JUICY for 15% off any product. Shop Juicy Scoop Merch https://juicyscoopshop.com  Get EXTRA Juicy on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop  Follow Me on Social Media Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald  Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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All right, let's get into it. Hello, and welcome to Juicy Scoop. We are going to get into so many juicy topics because I have Evan Reel here, senior editor of Page Six, always on the red carpet, always getting the scoop for me, because I do a lot of Page Six articles. Also, you have your own podcast. Yes, Virtual Reality that I co-host with, Danny Murphy. And you've been on our podcast before,

and we had the absolute best time. Danny couldn't be here, but you guys will come back when he's in town. And so let's just get into it. Okay. The sad news about Kate Middleton. So we all talked about where is she? The theories started. People were concerned. They were, you know, is it, you know, is she so upset because there was infidelity with William? Is there something else? Was she getting plastic surgery? Is she with Shelley Miskovic? Is she on The Masked Singer? Like everybody was saying everything. And I mean in my covering of it I always said I think it's that she

had a surgery happen and it either is taking longer to recover and maybe she's milking it out for her own mental health and just deserving it or maybe it got there was a complication. And apparently that's what she is basically saying is she had a planned operation and then they discovered there's cancer and now she's getting chemo, correct? Yes, yeah. And I love that. Megan King, of all people, was on the case on her psychic. She hired a psychic to figure out what was going on and her psychic said, this is what happened, that there was some sort of like Exactly what you're like a People said it though a lot of people thought that a lot of people thought there might be a

Colostomy bag which then would be something that you wouldn't want to be walking out and about so here's my question Yeah, you know no one wants to say anything Mean we all want the best for her. I definitely believe this is her talking. I don't think this is AI or anything. But the girl at the farmer's market, are we not gonna talk about that that still wasn't her? And yeah, like it. That was not her.

Yeah, I don't believe that was her. I don't even know if it was him. I think it could have been two people that are like. Like a lookalike couple or something. Yeah, like a lookalike couple that are hired, that were hired to do this. Right, like a lookalike couple that are hired, that were hired to do this. Right, and I don't know why the pals had,

I feel like they made it weirder than it needed to be, like also placing the blame on Kate for Photoshopping. Like I'm so sorry, but Kate was not recovering from her abdominal surgery slash cancer diagnosis by practicing on Adobe Photoshop. Yes, no. She was not doing that. So why put that blame on her?

I thought it was so weird, and yes, I don't think that couple was Kate and or William Yeah, and I yeah I think that they just made it weirder than it had to be and then it ultimately forced poor Kate to sit here on a bench in her striped sweater and tell us all she had cancer when like maybe this wasn't Like that I feel like the palace only stoked speculation, right? like yeah forced us into like a mental tailspin because she is such a public-facing person and she's always on about and shaking hands and kissing babies and it's like I feel like they just should have addressed us earlier when you watch this disaster Are you like should I apply to be the PR person?

For the royal family because anyone could do a better job. Literally, literally that, yes, exactly. Where is the LinkedIn link? I also saw a photo that at one time she wore the sweater before. Oh, so then are there weird theories around that? She re-wear stuff. But yes, she re-wear, but you could also tell that, like her hair is different or longer.

I don't know what the deal is with her hair. Who cares, that's not, but I mean, it is a really sad time when you think about, okay, now where does this leave Harry? Now his sister-in-law is going through a lot, and then of course his dad has cancer. And then this was kind of weird. So Kate Middleton's uncle went on some show like a week or two ago and was just like ripping on Meghan Markle and calling her like the laughing girl and the laughing girl and it's just so weird

also when like some guy out of nowhere like gets like she must be like, why is my uncle talking about my sister-in-law that we have, and we're estranged, and then he apologized once he found out that his niece was sick. He was like, oh, maybe I shouldn't have gone on that podcast or whatever. I know, I feel like Meghan Markle just- His name is Gary Goldsmith is Kate Middleton's uncle. Yeah, it's just so odd

I feel like poor Meghan and Kate just have like a host of Weird troll like family members. Yeah, like hiding beneath a bridge waiting to say something But yeah, it's just does not make the situation any better whatsoever. Yeah, so there we go I think a lot of people, you know, felt like an asshole for their reporting on it. I'm glad that I only just reported on the theories and my theory was correct. But I did report on the theories because I thought some of them were funny, like the BBL and the mess. Yes, the BBL got me.

Okay, so Rebel Wilson. To remind people Rebel Wilson is pitch perfect. She was the hilarious girl in Bridesmaids, the blonde girl, she's from Australia. She's now married to her wife. They have a daughter and she's coming out with her memoir and she said, there's an asshole. I'm going to tell who the asshole is. And then she did another post and she's like, the asshole is Sacha Barry Cohen, and I'm not gonna be silenced by PR people and lawyers,

which makes us think in hinting that there's an asshole coming in her book that's coming out soon, did his people reach out to her people somehow and be like, you better watch it or what? Yeah, and now Sasha, I think he's come out to like very strongly deny this. Yes. And I don't know what's what, but I'm interested

to like read about it in the memoir. So if this was a- I mean, it's a great way to get people to wanna read it, you know, but like, I do think the thing about these memoirs now, and I've said this before, that are kind of a bummer, is they come out on a Tuesday, and by like Wednesday, we know the whole, we know everything from like, you know, people doing their own reporting and book reports too.

So you better have more in it that you really love the way someone tells a story or something, because it can't just be... And what it says is that she, I guess, said in some other interview while they were doing this movie, The Grimsley's Gentleman... I've never even heard of the movie. But that he was like, oh, I think it would be really funny if I bent over and you stuck your finger in my like bare asshole Yes, and then she was like no no and she never did it

So she meant like a literal asshole like that is that is that is weird I wouldn't even like chalk that up to like just being a massive asshole. That's like almost like in 2024 terms like that's kind of like sexual Five years ago, but then his response is, there's videos, there's interviews, there's everything to prove that this isn't it. Like I wasn't like that.

Other people are like, I could see that happening. I feel like everybody is just at this point, they have to have a tell a story about someone, whether you're a waitress doing a TikTok or was in an elevator with someone or you went on a bad date with a guy that maybe never called you back. So, you know, he was a narcissistic, you know, ghosted you was grooming you and you were 30 and he was 30. Like, everyone feels like some of these stories, I have to say, could be a bit of a stretch. You know, like, there's one thing to really tell

about like a real situation. But hey, you know, books, a lot of people don't buy books. So she's gotta sell some books. And if he was a real dick and rude, sure, tell it. It's her story to tell. Yeah, very true. But that is such a good point you make about these books coming out Tuesday.

Yeah. You know everything by Wednesday. I feel like, and I'm someone who like, I'm so bad. I only watch reality TV and I only read celebrity memoirs. Like that's like just how I am as a person. But I have. Well, I am too basically. I have been picking up less and less celebrity memoirs because I do feel like I know every chapter from all the headlines. So we need to.

And it's kind of a bummer because like I did read the whole Paris Hilton one and I thought it was really good. I liked it, read it on plane. I read the whole Britney one. I liked it and I still heard all the stuff. But someone just summarizing something of like, oh, Justin Timberlake, did this happen? It's very different than when I read it. I was like, wait a minute, I interpreted that story

as him actually being there for her. When you read Britney's version. When I read the Britney version, I did not think he came off horribly. It was like they were two teenagers, there was a pregnancy that was unexpected and not planned. And then some people were like, and then he sat there and he's like, would you like me to play my guitar? And, you know, someone could, if you just see it like that, it's like,

Oh my God, he's making about him and he's such a dick and she's, you know, in pain physically and, and emotionally. And I was like, no, I think he was like, I'm going to be here with you. And like, I don't know, would this be distract, maybe this will help distract you. That's how I saw it when I read it. Right, like 20 year old Justin was like doing the best he could with what he had at the time.

I can see that. And I also feel like the headlines around Britney's memoir were so much more, they were harsher than the grace she actually extended to the people who like wronged her. Because I feel like for Justin, even though she said what she said about Justin, she clearly did love him, and that really came through

in the writing. And then even, same for Jamie Lynn Spears, and we know that she does not eff with Jamie Lynn Spears, but then towards the end of the book, she's like, that's my sister, maybe I should think about it differently and be nicer, and maybe one day we'll be friends again. So I don't know, I feel like Brittany's kinder than the headlines we saw.

What do you think's going on with Britney now? Cause I feel like, like anything, people are caring less and less. Like, well, okay, here's another outfit. Here's another brown sensible pump. Here's another spin around. Here's another naked photo. And I think with the book and everything,

we thought maybe there would be something else to come, like creatively, like either music or some other type of content. And it's not, and I just think, I always check her numbers, but she's just at, she's always, maybe she's lost a little bit, because people are just like, I don't want to see it anymore.

But it's still like at the 40 million. Like it doesn't, it hasn't, she didn't lose 10 million, she didn't gain 10 million. It's just kind of like there. Right. I think with Brittany and like, I am a massive Brittany fan. Like she is like my heart, soul and spirit.

I think, I think she's like still obviously still healing. I feel like she went through 13 years of abuse and like this is just like her process. Like she's going to be spinning in her living room for years to come because that's like she doesn't trust doctors so she's not going to go to therapy. I feel like she feels so burned by the music industry that she doesn't want to make anything else. There was that whole report about like how her team was assembling like writers and producers for another album. And then after that came out, she went on Instagram and was like, I am not returning to music.

So it seems like there's still even inner struggles in the camp that she does have around her because they're like, Brittany, you should really work on the music and she's like, fuck that. So I don't know, as a Brittany fan, it makes me so sad because it did kind of feel like the book was this crescendo and that we were gonna get like at least a single or something after that and then we didn't but I kind of like can't blame her for like just not wanting to work because

She worked so hard for so many years and what did she get out of it to Kids who don't talk to her who live in Hawaii and like the reason I feel I truly feel like the reason The saddest part because like she put up with all the bullshit Literally for the kids and for what? Now they don't talk to her and they live miles and miles away. I just, I feel so sad for her. But also I also can understand how hard it must be

for her kids. to be her sons. Yeah, I, yes. So like I see both sides of it, but also, yeah. When I watched, I watched Bet on Blonde, which I really liked with Erika, and I told her that. And I was like, watching this thing, and I'm like, yeah, I'm sorry, there's no way Brittany can ever do this again, in my opinion,

unless she really went into therapy and like for like a couple years and really wanted it. And even then, yeah, maybe just, she may never want to have that kind of pressure of performing and unless she does put on a show that's better than her last show, why? It'll, she'll be ripped apart. And you know, so I don't know that we'll ever see it.

Yeah, yeah, totally. And I think she's happy. Yeah. Going on the Instagram and getting that, seeing that, oh, that video totally. And I think she's happy. Yeah, I going on the Instagram and getting that and seeing that Oh, that video got this many views and this many likes she's taken off the comments for her that might just be just enough performing for her that makes her feel like I'm I'm having a creative outlet. I got to put on this outfit. I got to dance to my favorite song. Yeah,, you know, whatever, 400,000 views and 30,000 likes

and that makes me feel good. And now I can go to the next day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, speaking of Erica. I saw you at the Direct TV Oscars party a few weeks back and you were in the booth with Erica. I was at the bar getting a drink. I don't know what you guys were chatting about,

but right when you left, I had to like swoop in and talk to her Yeah, we Erica and I had beef like we had like secret beef that I that I suspect you have secret beef I just like need an outlet to talk to someone about Outlet this is juicy. What is the outlet? So basically every what's the story? No, I I love Erica Jane like I was a I love pop music And so I knew about Erica Jane before housewives like I was into the music and when Like I was a, I love pop music. And so I knew about Erika Jayne before Housewives. Like I was into the music.

And when I was like a little baby gay in New York city going to college, she performed at this gay nightclub called Splash. She was opening for Kim Zolciak. I've been to Splash by the way. Love, so you know, you get the vibe. So she was literally opening for Kim Zolciak. It was like the don't be tardy era.

I was like not 21, but I was gonna figure out a way to go to the show. So I found a fake ID, I made it to the show, and I ended up telling her that story when I got to interview her for her big press day for Better, All, and Blonde. I was so excited. In my Erika Jayne merch, I'm like a real fan.

And so we had this wonderful conversation, and I think that she really liked connecting and knowing about my fandom, et cetera. And then we did a like wonderful conversation and I think that she really liked connecting and like knowing about my fandom etc and then we did a live show for virtual reality a few months later in September the Residency was already in play and Sutton was doing our live show and a fan in the audience Asked Sutton for her thoughts about the $7 tickets Allegedly and Sutton made a joke about like, are they seven dollars? I think they were one dollar. Does any, does the whole room want to go to

the residency? I think I can cover it. And everyone had a good little giggle about it. And then at BravoCon, Erica, like she made it a point to skip me and Danny on the carpet. And I was like, do you know what? I bet you she's upset about the Sutton thing. And so I just kind of like sat with that for a little bit so then when I saw her at DirecTV I was like, okay, I'm just gonna like see if this is what the deal was and like immediately told her how much I loved the Bet It All in Blonde docu-series and then I was like, and by the way, I'm really sorry about Sutton. She was like, and that's why I skipped you at BravoCon, that's why I skipped you at the

DirecTV party today. And basically what she told me is that she was disappointed that me being such a fan, I allowed space for Sutton to diss the show and like the show was so important to her when she was like down so bad. And she was like, you know, Sutton's at a different station in life where she can like joke about my show and doesn't think twice about it. But for me, like this was kind of like my victory lap and like after several very bad years, like I was so excited about this, et cetera, whatever. But anyways, I confirmed my suspicions

that she was upset with me. And anyways, she was like, Well, I think it's great that you cleared it up. And I also see when you're hosting a show like that, it's someone asked the question, you didn't facilitate a question, you didn't pre-plan a snarky comeback. Right.

But also you, you know, now did she see a video of it or did she hear it? There was a video that kind of went viral. So again, you can't control the video. Right. So like if someone posted that video, you know, there's been, there was a time where I had my editor at the time, not this one I have now,

and they cut what they thought was like a good salacious clip of an interview I did, and I found that it really hurt the person that was being discussed. Even though I wasn't saying it, the guest was saying it. And I removed it and it made me feel a little more conscious of what I choose for the clips. Because people will see the clips,

people can send the clips. Is everyone gonna listen to the full hour and 20 minutes? No. But like, so I do think that is something that we all learn from in being in this business. And also in, you know, with the situation of Sutton and Erica, yeah, Sutton never has to sell another t-shirt sweater at her Sutton store She is financially set for the rest of her life. And so are her kids grandkids great grandkids. Okay, Erica

Doesn't own a home left a 20-year marriage with nothing had to you know Maneuver this whole situation with her husband. Now, finally, people are sort of seeing about it. And why everyone was coming after her too. And myself too, I was asking, did she know? I would have people on my show that was like, she was all walking around the office all the time. Then someone would be like, no, she wasn't. I'm like, yeah, she didn't go to law school. How would she know how the money's spent? When he basically was like, here baby, here's a credit card and hire your fabulous gay entourage

and go make some fun songs and go to Splash Nightclub. Like, that's what she was doing. And so I feel like now I have a better perspective of it too and I reported on her a lot too. And when I saw her on a plane I was a little bit like oh fuck this was like a couple maybe a year or so to go and go hi Erica I think we're coming to Bravo Connors like okay and she was so nice about how I'm doing after I fainted on stage she was like how are you da da da da and I remember being

like that's really nice. And then when I saw, I thought she had a great season. I thought she showed herself as a real friend who's been through some shit. When she spoke to Kyle, I thought that was a great scene. I think she is a great friend to Kyle. And like, and I really saw like the work that she did in putting the show together. And it was a legit fabulous show. And when all these other housewives and people are trying to go on stage and do things, and they're like, it's comedy or it's singing, and it's kind of neither,

I do feel like Erica puts on a good show, I think Luanne puts on a good show. Because they've been doing it for many years, they didn't just suddenly do something. So I think that's where she was coming to like, yeah, you're gonna shit on the fact that there's some rumor going around about ticket sales, which is doesn't help me with my business. Right. And sometimes

those things are not true. Like, I've sold out a show. And, and then it's totally sold out, either people don't come, because people are flake. Right. And then some snark fan will be like, it wasn't sold out, here's two empty seats. It was fucking sold out. Or someone buys the tickets and then they're trying to sell it that day. And they're like, oh, the tickets are on sale

for whatever, $10. It's not true. And what does it matter if you sold it out or not? Just like, we're all fucking working. It just was a rude thing to say. Yeah, yeah. So I think that Erika, knowing how big of a fan I was of her music, felt like maybe in that moment

I could have like stepped in to support her and defend her. You could have. You could have said, I've actually seen her perform when I was a baby gay. I can't wait to go. You're right. You could have done that. And I just think it's a good lesson to learn

because we report on these people and they're real people and they're trying to, they're doing this show and they're selling their soul to the devil, devil being pro-thorny. No, but to hopefully get something with longevity, not all of them, but some of them, Erica being one of them, hoping to have something with longevity that will take them afterwards you know, afterwards if this

show ever ends. And it's like, why shit on it? Right, right. So again, Erica, I'm sorry. We love you. Okay, so. This episode is brought to you by Tressamay. Want silky smooth hair that's still full of natural movement?

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Speaking of shitting on people. So I saw you at this direct TV party. John Jansen, former boyfriend of Real Housewives of OC, Shannon Storms-Bedore, is there now with former Housewife returning friend Alexis Bellino. When she was on the show, she was married to her husband Jim Bellino and now she's divorced and dating John Jansen. So we see them coming on the carpet. And I'm like, oh my God. And that was their first carpet experience. Yes.

Together, their debut. They spoke to you. Yes. Tell me about the conversation they spoke to you. Yes. Tell me about the conversation that happened because that was before this lawsuit came out. We're going to get to the lawsuit in a minute, but I will just say the lawsuit is Jim, I'll just get to it now, John. John Jansen is suing Shana Madure for $75,000.

The lawsuit says that he gave her $40,000 through a wire for a facelift in January of 2022. And then another $35,000 personal check in May of 2023. No, I think it was 2023. Yes. Yeah, it was like two installments situation. Yeah, I think both were in 2023. Okay.

And or maybe 2022. Anyway, I read it, but I can't remember. So, that, you know, and she's saying it's a gift. His attorney is saying, we have texts and emails that prove that it's not a gift. Then I read more and she was saying like, we were trying to resolve this, but in me paying him back, I wanted him to sign something I think that he wouldn't be able to discuss it. And he said, no, this is how I'm understanding it.

So I'm not, you know, I did not read the actual legal things. I'm reading these articles. And I thought that was extremely interesting because now he's on the show. He told me at that party after he was off the carpet, we were just talking, because we hung out with them as a couple, my husband and I, and that he's like, I'm not, you know, we tried to stay away from each other, Alexis and I, but this chemistry is off the hook and we're in love and it has nothing to do with Shannon.

I wish her the best. It has nothing to do with Shannon. I wish her the best. It has nothing to do with Shannon. And I, and Alexa said, I said, if you're having me back on the show to feature John, no, but he has been on once. She's like, I've done one scene with him so far, which was like a FaceTime. Okay.

But I'm thinking there must be a lot of discussion about Shannon in which has either been filmed or they wanna film. And that is why he is not going to agree with the no talking thing. And I also think he could be like, no, fuck you. You talked about me all the time. You talked about me all the time. You made me look bad.

Either to your friends off camera that then would say it on camera, we don't have sex. I don't spend the night. I don't have a lot of money. Remember she was like, he's not going to be rich enough to take care of us forever. His kids live at home. I don't get along with the kids. Or Emily saying that he told Shannon that she was fat and not attracted to her. Like there again is a character assassination on his part.

Because any man that would say that to a woman we hate. And I think he woke up one day with too many comments from angry women who watched Bravo. And he was like, fuck you. I stuck around in this relationship longer than I wanted because you, you know, he said to me that part of her last contract was, based on if he stuck around and filmed with her.

Now, I don't know if that was ever in writing. I don't know if she conveyed that to him in a desperate. I don't know. That's just what I recall him telling me. I don't know how true that is, but it makes me think that in all of this, like he's just like, no, I was actually really good to her. Yeah.

And I'm, you know, and yeah, I want my 75 grand back, but I also don't want that story that's gonna be in repeats forever about me. I want people to, I wanna have an opportunity to set the record straight that I wasn't a bad boyfriend to her. Right, and like now clearly from what I know, this is making its way into the season.

Cameras were not on Shannon as the story broke, but they were on other people, so I know that- So they're like having lunch and they're like, oh! Uh-huh, uh-huh. Oh my gosh. So this is definitely, you know, it was definitely captured. I don't know if it'll make the final cut. I'm assuming that it will because this is like so juicy. Like you owe me $75,000 for a facelift.

The thing that makes me so sad is like, Shannon's been on this platform for so many years and I know that not every housewife is doing great financially. That's exactly what I said. But like the fact that you have to borrow money for a facelift makes me so, it makes me so sad. Well, I'm like, I definitely think, here's the thing.

Before she got on the show, she was married. Yeah. And lived in somewhere between a 13 and a $16 million house. Yep. And once she got on the show, there was infidelity. They broke up, they got infidelity. They broke up. They got back together.

They did a fake funeral. They did a vow renewal. They get divorced. They sell the house. No, no, they stay together. They sell the house. They then rent a house. Then they get divorced.

She's been renting ever since. And been on the show for what? Eight, nine years. And I don't, you know, maybe that's, yeah, I don't think she did great in this divorce. And I think that how, you know, in doing this, maybe the lemon business or whatever it was didn't pan out. I don't know.

Or she was just like, I don't want to spend it. Let's see if I can get it from my boyfriend. I don't know, women do that. People do that in couples, like why not? Or be crying about it if I only looked like this. And then he's like, oh my God, here, we don't know. She's saying it's a gift. So her story could be, he came with me

to consult with somebody and I was like, I can't justify spending this money on myself and he was like, I got you girl. That could be her story. And she goes, and now the hits keep coming, I get this, like what? You know, so who knows what their story is gonna be, but yeah, I think it will be interesting to see,

you know, and we see that Alexis and Tamara and Heather, DeBrow, we're all in like some private jet and all that. So look, I mean, I'll I'll always watch OC. I'll always watch OC, Beverly Hills and well, I don't know how much I'll be watching New York this next round. Do you not like the reboot? I don't know. It's fine.

I mean, I like the girls. I just don't know that I, I don't know. I can't say that I 100% will, but Beverly Hills and OC and New Jersey, I'll always watch. And hopefully New York will get into it. Who's your top Rony reboot girl? Probably Erin, just cause I interviewed her and I feel like she's like gorgeous and interesting. But all of them are great.

All of them are really put together and I like their style. So we'll just see what happens with them. But yeah, this is going to be a lot. He is the Harry Hamlin, not the Harry Hamlin, the Harry Doober. Yeah, Harry Doober. Harry Doober, yes. Harry Doober now of the West Coast. So we'll see.

And also you wonder how much of this lawsuit was the pressure from your new girlfriend. You know how how many times has someone gotten divorced and the new wife is like, we shouldn't still be paying for that and na na na na na na na na and you know like, what you need to get that. What is she doing still borrowing that you know like that's what happens or. Or you are the second wife or the girlfriend after and you're like, why are you running over there to help your ex-wife with her gate? Like you've been divorced eight years. What was it at all instigated by her to be like, go after this?

I mean, John and Alexis told me and Danny up and down on the carpet at DirecTV, like we don't want to hurt Shannon. We care how she feels in all of this. Like, we really just, this is about us. It's not about her. And we just, yeah, they didn't want to hurt her. But this, I feel like this is going to hurt Shannon. I feel like anything he could say about her, though, and I know she must be stressed about

it, wouldn't surprise the viewers. We know her personality. We know she's dramatic. We know she's like, we have normal conversations and they are devastating. Well, how is a normal conversation devastating? We all know it. So it's like, I don't think there's anything

that he could say that would be like shocking, like, oh, that she, whatever, was dramatic or made it about herself. I think we know that. But still, I think the anticipation, the anxiety that someone must have when they know people are filming about this and they're not gonna be able to see it for like six months.

Yeah, that's tough, I can imagine. That's why you need plastic surgery. Yeah, literally. This happened over the weekend, very sad. Christine Quinn, who was the beautiful blonde from the Netflix show Selling Sunset. She was on the first two seasons. She was a realtor for many years

prior to the show being made. Then she was super fashion forward, married this guy. He appeared to be very, very wealthy. And then she went off the show, they had a baby, and it was announced that he was arrested. The cops were there, which I assume. Are they just listening to the cop news, like the TMZ people? I think so.

I'm not really sure. You wouldn't know being a page six person how this works. I'm not tapped into the cop side of it all. But yeah, this was like insane because they were like there, I think like three times within like 33 hours or something like. I don't know about the third time. I just said the first time was the cops were called. They said it wasn't her. It wasn't she who called that she was okay, but she did go to the hospital with her child because he threw a bag of like broken glass. Yes. And it hit the child.

And so then they left, he was arrested in a very unfortunate bathroom. Yeah, and no shoes. No shoes and just looked like a loser, which he is. And terrifying. And then he was let out on bail, but there was a temporary thing where he couldn't go back to the house.

He did go back to the house. She wasn't there. So then he was arrested again. But I think that, yeah, I've heard that they've been having problems for a while. And so sometimes, as horrible as this is, it's out there now. If she would, if it wasn't out there, if this, if this had resulted in, in something being kept private, maybe she would stay longer. So hopefully she can look at it a good way, get out. She

can, you know, she's got a lot going on. She's five million followers. She's like I said, very fashion forward and all of that. But also she can go back on Selling Sunset. I'm sure they'd love to have her back. 100%. As a viewer and fan would love to have her back. I'm so heartbroken for her. And this really just goes to show that like nothing is ever good as it seems. I don't know. It's just like making me think of Taylor Armstrong and her now deceased husband. From Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Yeah, we don't know. It's just like making me think of Taylor Armstrong and her now deceased husband. From Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Yeah, we didn't know that and yeah.

Then we knew and it was just like so sad and so heartbreaking. So I, yeah, I'm like you said. But also the stuff that we saw on Selling Sunset, which was, you know, filmed probably three years ago when she was on, it was before her wedding, before they had a kid, and things change when people get married and have kids. So he could have been a complete delight

who then, for whatever reason, became an abuser, like verbal and everything else, I assume. But this is not good. Well, we'll see what his defense is. Allegedly, this is what happened. Allegedly, allegedly, so we'll see. But we wish her the best. Real Housewives of Salt Lake City,

they were in Palm Desert this weekend, La Quinta, where I was, and I got word that they were there and filming, and there's this new girl who's like whose name is Bronwyn but spelled differently than the Bronwyn of O.C. Not another Bronwyn? Yeah. Oh my gosh.

And she supposedly she's like a pretty influencer from you know. Is she like a Mormon influencer? I don't know anything. I just saw little bits and pieces about it. I'm dying for them to get a Mormon influencer. And saw them at the airport and. Did you say hi? No, no, no. I just saw little bits and pieces about it. And saw them at the airport. And did you say hi? No, no, no.

I saw a photo of them at the airport. I didn't go there. I drove. I don't fly. But Monica's gone. And I have to say that kind of, I don't know. I don't know what she could have done differently. But I feel like that interest has died.

I felt it was so big. And now everyone's just kind of like, I don't know. she could have done differently, but I feel like that interest has died. I felt it was so big, and now everyone's just kinda like, I don't know. Like we're moving on, yeah, totally. I don't know. I agree, I agree. Did you ever interview Monica? I never interviewed Monica, no I have not. I mean, I would be interested to chat with,

well, I mean, I would interview her, of course, always, but I think I would have been more interested to interview her a few months ago. That's what I'm saying. Yes, I feel like interest is waning a little bit, and I think they'll figure it out. I feel like she was waiting, like she didn't do, I mean, I had reached out to her,

well, first I didn't reach out to her. First, I was so disgusted with what she did. First, I reached out to her when I just thought she was a new housewife. I was also reaching out to her when she was Dita Von Teese or whatever, reality Von Teese, not knowing that she was reaching out to me. And I just thought she was, you know, whatever. And I only commented about her exposing Jen Shaw. I never saw that Instagram account talk about anything other than Jen Shaw. And I think that was her argument.

I see, yeah. Like I only, yeah, I did this, but it was only Jen Shaw. And they were like, no, it was awful stuff about us too. And then she was like, yeah, but you were engaging with me about Jen Shaw, but yeah, but you also said awful stuff about us and you weren't being honest. And I agree, like the dishonesty and the whole that whole thing of being a blogger it's like very today, but it's also like oh, it's too much of

Inauthentic and that's not what the housewives should be right like too weird, but I Don't know. We'll see if she gets on like traders or house of villains or something I think she could least get on House of Villains. Oh, 100%, yeah. She's got to do House of Villains and or Traders. I'd love to see her on both. I think those are two special places that she would exist very well in and thrive.

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Buy it today at major retailers. Okay, I watched a ton of Buying Beverly Hills. I think I'm like. On Netflix. Yeah, it's really good. I think I'm like up to episode four, five now. Well, okay, here are my thoughts. Yeah, tell me.

I love watching shows where I know the people. So obviously I'm gonna watch this. I was a realtor, I grew up in real estate. I like real estate shows. Okay. Especially about LA. Yeah. So I do love the estate. I like real estate shows, especially about LA. So I do love the backdrop. They also go to Miami, which is just,

I love real estate porn. I can love that. And I do, so it's that glossiness that The Selling Sunset has. Yeah. And then, but I don't know. I mean, let's just be honest here. I don't know how honest you can be.

Okay. I feel like they are basically stealing a storyline from like season one and two of Kardashians from 15 years ago with the three girls. Do you remember? There's a scene where they're in Miami and Alexia, I think that's her name, she feels that the older sister Farrah

and the younger sister, which is Sophia, even though they have a bigger age gap, they have such a close bond and they leave her out. And I'm like, Chloe and Courtney take Miami. Like, where's, like it just felt, I kinda don't believe it. I think that they are very, they don't have any issues.

I think they actually really get along. And I think they're like, we gotta have some stuff happening. Yeah. And then they fake go for this guy who, I'm like, do we even know what he likes? Like, I was like, and they're both, two girls are acting like they're both flirting with him. And I just felt like he was playing along. Wait, Farrah and both, two girls are acting like they're both flirting with him,

and I just felt like he was playing along. Wait, Farrah and Sofia, like the oldest and youngest? No, Sofia and this other realtor are both flirting with this really good-looking guy named Adam that looks like a model, but has clients that wanna spend $30 million, whatever. And so I'm watching these shows, and there's this new thing that happened has clients that want to spend $30 million, whatever. And so I'm like, I'm watching these shows and there's this new thing that happened

with the National Association of Realtors where now they can't state how much commission they're offering a buyer's agent in the MLS. And it's kind of, people think it's gonna be a big deal. They think it's gonna really hurt like new agents because mostly new agents represent buyers, not the listings, not the seller's house. They normally just represent buyers

because it's harder work and schlepping. And I'm like, I think it was all these shows that made people go, who are these fucking twats making 500,000 after they show one house? What the fuck is this? Maybe this is the problem with housing in America. I don't know. Yeah, that makes sense though,

because every time I look forward to seeing the potential commission, because it's like so mind blowing. It's like literally like life-changing commissions. It's crazy. And so it's a lot of that. And then, but of course about Mauricio and Kyle. So there's, so far I'm like on episode seven or something,

there's only been two or three scenes Kyle's featured in. She was not featured at all in the first season, which I believe was part of maybe her Beverly Hills contract. And did you notice that, I don't know if they- Of why she couldn't do it. Right, and I think in like the first lower third, when she comes on screen in season two,

it says, Maricio's wife and star of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. So I think that was some sort of like weird bravo contract stipulation thing. I don't know, because it's like, I thought you were just gonna say it was gonna just be like, Maricio's wife,

like as if we don't know, like when they bring back like a housewife that was already fired and was on five seasons, and it's like, Marie Seo's wife. Like as if we don't know, like when they bring back like a housewife that was already fired and was on five seasons and it's like, Sutton's friend. You're like, what? This girl was on five years before Sutton. I just thought it was odd that they included that. And I was really surprised that they were able to speak about Beverly Hills in such a candid way.

Real house as Beverly Hills. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like. It's also just kind of interesting, I'm like, to when she's like, I have anxiety and all this other stuff, and that she wants this for her girls. Yeah.

I guess it's like, what else are you going to do? I think it's that. You might as well be famous and make as much money as you can. You know, we're already out there. But I really feel like we never saw these girls on the real house as the Beverly Hills. So if they didn't want it for themselves, and maybe they very much did, it's the kind of thing that like, they could have led a private life. But I assume he wanted the show. He probably saw Selling Sunset and all this stuff and was like, well, we have a juicier, funnier life. We're more famous than that. And then the other thing was the Rick Hilton thing.

So the Rick Hilton thing, so Hilton and Hyland, which is Rick Hilton, Paris' dad, Kathy Hilton's husband, gave Mauricio his first job. I mean, when Kyle and Mauricio met, they met at like a nightclub, and they were living in an apartment with Farrah, like who was from her first husband. And he was like selling suits,

or he was a personal trainer or something. They both got their real estate license. She then became more of the mom, and so I don't know that she ever really did real estate. He got the job at Hilton and Highland with Rick Hilton, and then did really well, and then he said at a certain point, he's like, I wanna be a partner and he's like, no.

Which honestly, being in real estate, that doesn't happen. Like if you're a really good agent, they just keep saying, okay, you only have to pay us 1% of your current, like it just keeps going down and down and down because we want to keep you. So anyway, he goes and leaves and starts his own company. And Kathy Hilton said in the reunion, that was fine, but what we said was don't poach our people, our agents, our clients, our escrow people, whatever. And he did with some.

So cut to all these years later, the storyline is one of his main guys is being pursued by Rick Hilton, and Rick Hilton is saying, come over to Hilton in Highland, and I will give you a portion of the partnership. Something that I didn't give Mauricio all the... And...

Are you buying it? Like, do you think it's... Do you think Rick is... That could be real, but I think what Mauricio needs to say is go to his main guy and go, he's only doing this to hurt me. He doesn't really care about you. Yeah.

And do you wanna be with a dying, not a dying, but like a much older, older vibe? Or do you wanna grow with this thing where all the hip and young kids are and like we have a TV show and everything, but just know he's only doing that to get to me. And that's what I would tell him. But I think it's a good storyline.

Maybe it's true, maybe it's not. Maybe there's an element of it that's true. Maybe it's just a conversation and not an actual like offer on the table. But yeah, I think it's all like the real estate stuff that to me is interesting. So I think that was good that they made it a storyline. And then of course he's like, you know, Oh, I guess Kyle's just not in love with me anymore. And, um,

so he's like being really honest about it. And you know, it's like, we've seen it and we've gotten the bits and pieces from what they've given us. And to me, this is one of the most fascinating stories in real housewives history because it's so relatable as someone that's been married for a long time. I have friends who are divorced. Like I get how this can happen. Right. But yeah, I mean, he's he's out currently dating. Yeah, and I guess good for him because I feel like Kyle's doing what she wants to do. Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't know. I heard some stuff over the weekend, so.

Regarding a certain country singer? No, both. Oh, oh, Mauricio. Mauricio is enjoying his best life. And good for him. And, you know, dancing around with the dancers. The dancer. Oh no, holding hands again maybe? Having dinner, whatever.

Oh no. Who knows? They were cute together. But she said, go ahead. So there's no scandal there. Right, right. So who knows? Maybe they're just friends.

Maybe, you know, she's staying in another place. I don't know. But I think he's kind of like, I don't care anymore. I don't care. She's with her country singer. Now, when is the article coming out on People Magazine? I know. Yep, we're in love. Everyone's waiting for it. The title is Yep, we're in love. Everyone's waiting for it.

The title is Yep, We're in Love. Yeah, yeah, I love Yep. And it's gonna be them looking great, facing the light. And on the ground, guitar, legs kind of entwined. Then there's gonna be another photo of like. Uh-huh, yeah, we're gonna get a laughing laughing and then definitely some animals

yeah, oh some animals and Then like an in it'll be like at like an office setting and in the background are Kyle's kids framed so it's like, you know, yes, this is my new life but this is really my life I mean I would love to see it I truly if this comes out and I get this many predictions right I maybe if I don't start getting up there with Tyler Henry I'm gonna be pissed yeah you need it we need a crystal ball here in the studio yeah I don't I don't know I mean she did like shut it down on her Amazon live which basically is like her her own version of a podcast.

What is that? I've asked Lala. What it is? Why are you dropping your biggest tea on the Amazon live? Do you get paid the longer people stay on the Amazon live? That I'm not- Are you supposed to be selling your products? Right, that I'm not sure about, but it does seem like-

I don't get it, but that's all the juiciest scoop comes from them doing their Amazon Live. So I feel like Amazon must be paying an enormous amount, and part of it is you gotta answer these questions, and I think they just get comfortable and answer the questions. Right, yeah, that must be it, because you're so right. All these big headlines like break via Amazon.

I'll click on an article, one that I didn't write or didn't have any part in and of course Amazon It's always Amazon live But yeah, she shut that down in an Amazon live recently like maybe like two-ish weeks ago when it became a thing on demois but I I don't know I kind of feel like Kyle would shut it down just like shut people up and then once it eventually happens like she could be like look like I wanted to announce it myself say it in my own words etc etc I thought everything that was on the reunion was now I went back to being like no they are a couple I've

gone back and forth 15 times and I was like no they are a couple because he was like well would Morgan be here sitting and And I don't know, she might. Yeah. Like there's no way if someone said that to me, like, I'm sorry, I'm not, but yeah, would I date a woman? No, I wouldn't. Right, exactly. I just, I know that about, but I guess,

I know people change their mind and then also maybe you want to say yes because then other people will accuse you of like- Being homophobic. Yeah, like just because you're like, well, I'm sorry. I'm just like, not that, you know, like, you know, like if someone said, would you date a woman and you're like, no, no one's going to say, what are you kids straight? What's wrong with you? Like, no, I mean, it's just like, no, but I think if there was a heavy rumor about me being with a friend of mine who was a lesbian

and it really wasn't true, I would be like, it's not true. Like I'm married and like whatever. But I think she wasn't ready for it. I think she is smart about how much press this was gonna bring to the Buying Beverly Hills show, which, let's be honest, it kind of was like a dud first season.

It got like no buzz. I don't even remember the storylines from first season. I don't even remember. I had one guy come on and he was a delight, Brandon. But other than that, I really don't remember anything about the show. Right, same. And I was like, so this got me watching.

Yeah, and like, Kyle is such a family gal that I feel like she would be willing to sort of like use this to benefit her family, even if it's like her estranged husband. Obviously she'd want to benefit her daughters. Yeah. So and launch them in a way that they can have their own thing. So like a mom of the year for stoking tabloid fodder. You're right. She sacrificed herself for the benefit of all that. But I mean, then there was a rumor that, oh, she did talk to a divorce attorney this week or whatever.

Yeah, I saw that. And then watching all this with all the, how many offices there are in the world and stuff, I'm like, why are they living in Encino? Like granted their house in Encino, I'm sure it's worth like, I'm sure it's worth a lot. I've been in Woodland Hills, the Valley Encino I'm sure is worth like, I'm sure it's worth a lot. I've been in Woodland Hills the Valley but I'm just sort of like is this business or is it just so

overwhelming that he just takes a salary and it's not the kind of money that we think it is? I don't know. Right. Because I guess he's just the CEO so he's not the owner. It's like franchises. It's like McDonald's I think. I didn't know that. That's interesting. I don't think he owns or they just lease the building, you know, where the agents are and they just set their office there and then you, you know, I don't know. But like, I was like, wow, I mean, this is huge. Yeah. When you see that he's like, oh, I sold another house for $30 million and da da da da. And so, well, whatever the case, I think they did raise great daughters. They're all winners.

They're all pretty and fun. They all sound like Kyle. They all, I always think it's Kyle on screen. Like it's so crazy how they all sound like her. I do love Sophia. Like I thought she was a really good addition. I interviewed her. She's really pretty.

She's the youngest. She's a 23 year old. And then of course there's Portia who's 16 who is not featured at all in this. Just like one little tidbit at the beginning. Yeah so and she's gone. Yeah because maybe but kids change sometimes they don't want that's the thing like kids that at 12 that don't want to be on it might feel differently at 23. I want to be on it. Same thing with why I think it's wrong when parents expose their kids too much on social media

and then make them say, well, if you give up being on the YouTube channel, we're gonna lose the house. And it's like, yeah, I liked doing YouTube when I was six. I don't wanna do it at 12. I might wanna do it at 23. Like, they're kids, it changes. So I'm sure the three are there and they're very happy to be there. Yeah.

You know? So, but it's interesting. Yeah, I like the dynamic even if they're copying Courtney, Kim, and Chloe sometimes. Yes. And it is, it's even a little bit like that because the Sofia is much taller like Chloe. Yes, yeah, she's like Chloe in the group. And then the, is it Alexis or Alexa? Alexa, yeah.

Alexa is more petite. And then is like the Courtney, and then Kim is Farrah. But in the styles and everything, so it's kind of funny. And they're all brunette, of course. She also said that she doesn't believe that she was ever being manipulative with DeRite, Kyle. I mean, I love Kyle so much, but I really love, I'm a big DeRite fan, but in reading that text message

that was like released in full online after it was, you know, revealed on the reunion, I didn't. Who released it? That's what I don't know. So DeRite received a text from Kyle the night before the reunion. Yes. That was basically like, I know we know. So, Dorit received a text from Kyle the night before the reunion. Yes. That was basically like, I know we haven't talked,

but I'm going through a lot. And basically, Dorit felt it was, be cool to me tomorrow and I'll be cool to you. Right. And I don't think that's such a bad thing to do. When you're going on national television, you're going through divorce, you weren't as close. However, Kyle didn't do anything mean to DeRitte all season.

So she was like, I know we haven't talked, but can you be cool tomorrow? And then DeRitte was like, I think that's quite manipulative. And she said that. Who is she telling the story to? Oh, um. Erica? Yeah, I think it's Erica.

And then, yeah, but where did the, Well, who is she telling the story to? Oh, um... Erica? Yeah, I think it's to Erica. And then, yeah, but we... But where did the... Was it on the show? So it was... There was like... They showed it on screen and they kind of like highlighted certain chunks, but it wasn't shown for very long.

So I'm not sure how like the full text message made its way online, but it did. But I read it a few times because I was like looking for the manipulation and I never found it. Right. I just, yeah, I don't know what that was about. I don't know. So. Hopefully I can patch things up.

Well, maybe she'll explain it in the People article. Yeah, okay. Sorry that it's, well, maybe you'll get the exclusive. Yeah. One of the guys that's on the Mauricio show is the one who sold Ariana, and this is coming from Face Reality. Oh, it's Ben Belac.

They put it together, Face Reality 16 Instagram account, that he sold this house to, it went for $1649, no, that was the listing price. Yeah. And I think she got it for 16. And it looks modern and it's been redone.

It's in the Hollywood Hills, it's out in the Valley, and that's where Ariana Maddox bought her house. And a friend of mine told me that she was looking at it to flip their flippers, and they didn't go for it. But from what she told me that the listing price was and the amount of work that went into it, Ariana got a great deal. Yeah, I mean, I got a great deal. Yeah. So so now I assume Tom will get to keep that house and then she'll he'll just whatever pay what's what is owed. Because I think the whole reason she wasn't leaving is because she didn't have a place,

or maybe she didn't have her money together, now she does, to buy a place. Also, we saw her bedroom. I don't think she's the most organized. And I think moving is overwhelming. She's in, doing Chicago, all of it. So now she'll have her own place. They'll figure out their finances.

He'll stay in the valley. She's here. Apparently the reunion was not good for the girls. Yeah, I know, I can't believe Lala and Ariana, but I will say like I- What is it you heard about that? So I haven't even talked to Lala about this. So basically that Lala and Ariana really got into it

and kind of left feeling like the friendship is done. It seems like a permanent friendship break, which is, I don't know. I feel like the world is growing tired of the Ariana Superwoman narrative and I think that Lala, I appreciate her for just like really like leaning into her truth and what she feels is authentic to herself. And I mean, like the whole like Sandoval and Ariana thing was like just, I don't know, it was insane, but I think we're all so tired of it.

You know, I mean, are you tired of it? Like, are you? I, well, I, I can see why people are, but at the same time, that's not Ariana's fault that she was given a million deals. It's totally not Ariana's fault. So I don't like that, oh enough, or get over it. She doesn't have to get over ever what happened to her. 100%. You know what I mean?

But yeah, they do have to film a show, and the other people do have to interact with this other cast member, and that's where it gets really hard. I think if they were never on a show, and the girls then continued to go have lunch with Tom Sandoval six months after he did this to her, in real life with no cameras, it was never a show,

then I could see her being like, fuck you forever. And they would and they and she would be justified. But when there's business and Hollywood and everything else involved, like it's Hollywood and Hollywood people never turn down anything. Right. And if they turn down every opportunity and talking to him, the producers wouldn't be happy. And all of turn down every opportunity and talking to him, the producers wouldn't be happy and all of that. And then as time goes on, he is a charming guy. And if he's showing any remorse to them as a friend and being nice to them, now they start getting sucked in. And that's when Ariana was like, I'm afraid you guys are going to get sucked in.

And then I'm going to be the one left out. Yeah. And I think that might happen was like, I'm afraid you guys are gonna get sucked in and then I'm gonna be the one left out. And I think that might happen. Yeah, I think that is happening. I feel like at this point, the only person that Ariana really has a true right of die is Katie, who also doesn't mess with a lot of people on that cast anyway, so it kinda seems like they're just kinda becoming this dynamic duo

and everyone else is over here. And the sandwich shop isn't happening. You hear about the sandwich shop. Yeah, that's. So I knew about this tidbit of information and somebody else like went and found the record. So I have to give them credit, but I don't know who they are.

Okay. That the girl that was, the woman that was like helping them come up with the menu and helping them hire people. Yeah. She trademarked all about her. Oh, so something about her belongs to her. Oh, something about her.

Yeah, so she owns it. So I don't know if that is what also added to them being maybe like pissed or like, wait a minute, we don't wanna deal with this woman. I don't know. Of course, the city of West Hollywood is very difficult. They had to remove their all their stuff from the from the outdoor eating area. Then she goes and does Chicago like, I don't know if you guys are ever going to get a sandwich. Yeah. And I do know what I kind of like, I feel bad for like the fans

who are so excited about this sandwich shop, because there really wasn't like a genuine excitement. I mean, they made hundreds of thousand dollars when they sold merch for whatever. There was a whole activation at BravoCon. But I feel like Vanderpump rules, and this is just my thoughts, assumptions and speculations. I feel like it's sort of like coming to a close. So why put yourself through the drama of owning a brick and mortar sandwich shop

if it's not even for a storyline or you don't have that flagship series to really anchor it? I mean here's the thing, being in business with a friend was really really hard. And then that kind of a business, like an actual restaurant, and I just think at the time, I think the intentions were 100% there. Yeah. Where they wanted to do this, they wanted to do it back when Katie and Tom were still married and everything. Right, before Scandival.

Before Scandival, they wanted to do it. It could have been fun. It could have been cute. And then Scandival happens. And they have these other opportunities. They have these ways of making money so much easier than slicing meat. And so I'm like, so whoever the fan is

that bought the Something About Her sweatshirt, what are you gonna, is somebody gonna get together and like, is Rod, Ronald Richards gonna come and now do a class action lawsuit? Did you buy a Something About Her sweatshirt for $34 and the store never opened? Like, let it go. Let it go. It's still, maybe they'll do something somewhere else. I don't really think. Maybe like a food truck. I just don't. It's why would you do it when you could go to a

commercial or do an Instagram or your podcast or do something else? Like I'm just saying, if you weren't raised, do like, you know, well, Katie said she was raised in a sandwich shop. I don't know. I don't know, I think that's what it is. And I don't think it was ever fake for the show though. I think all this was the intention of,

this was what we wanna do with our life and you're filming our life. And then these things really did happen with the city of West Hollywood. And then all these other opportunities exactly what I said And now it's not worth it. Did you watch the valley? I did I liked it. What did you think? Yeah? Yeah, I was into it I mean, I think already another couple is separated. Did you see that? Yes Michelle the realtors. Yeah realtors who don't live in the valley right behind the Chateau. Yes

Yes, and um Chateau Vermont and they are already they are separated. They announced on some carpet and Jax comes in to Vanderpump and he's like, God, he's like, Tom Zettelmahl, you look awful. You look like you're 50. And I was like, okay. Jax to me is, you cannot take your eyes off of Jax. He is such an authentic reality star. Hate him, love him, think he's a dick. He is who he is. He is who he is and it's good. And we'll see what's going on with Brittany

and him and everything. But I think it's gonna be good. But I will say, I think Jax is wrong though because Tom Sandoval in my opinion has like never looked better Whatever he's better whatever he's doing like injection wise working out like I think not drinking I thought that is helping here and then also getting rid of the mustache like yeah, really does a good I also wonder I don't know if he's done anything to his nose, but his, I got a liquid nose job and I'm looking at everyone's nose now. And so I feel like. Possibly.

Yeah, it looks good. I'm like, gonna show Tom Sandoval to my. Yeah, you can do that. And you, like, if you ever had like a little bump or something, you could just get like a filler in there and it'll just like shape it a little bit. And it will be very hard to detect. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. This one yeah. Yeah. This one was really funny. He goes, I feel like I'm Scott Peterson. And Schwartz is like, didn't that guy kill his wife? He's like, allegedly. Oh my God. And this is where I'm like, this stuff is good. Like I am not bored at all.

I feel like they are, because there's such a deep history and friendships and all of it that it just keeps you going with it. Versus watching the buying Beverly Hills where there's the sisters but they're not people we know and then all these extra people that we don't know yet. It just doesn't like suck you in like a Vanderpump when you really know these characters you've been watching for so long. 100%

But that was really funny. Oh, Tracy Morgan said that he gained 40 pounds doing the weight loss drug Ozempic. Okay, do you know what's really- Is that a joke though? I've seen this everywhere. Is he like joking? I don't know, okay, because I'm so candidly,

I am on semiglutide, which is on, which is the, that's the ingredient in those. So basically it's like generic goes on. I have been on it since February, 2023 with like a three to four month break in the fall. I'm back on it and I'm doing okay, but I, I'm not losing weight as quickly as I was in the beginning. And I don't know if that's just like how it was, I think it goes. You're not, you're a slim looking guy. So what are you hoping to do? Just lose like six pounds?

So I got really fluffy during the pandemic. Okay. And so I've lost like about like 25-ish pounds. So like a good chunk of weight off. So my goal is to lose maybe like 10 to 15 more, but I'm just like not losing. And then like some check-ins, like, like when I weigh myself, I'm actually like heavier. And so when I saw that Tracy Morgan like out ate Ozempic, I'm wondering like, am I doing

the same thing? Am I out eating Ozempic? My friend went on and I have to check in with her, but she was losing but very slowly, very, very slowly. I'm like, well, maybe that's kind of good. But there's another thing that's happening. Girls are getting pregnant. I saw that. Like, they're calling them Ozempic babies.

And it's like helping them? So they're, okay, so they're on Ozempic. Yeah. And, okay, there's this thing, this is what it reminds me of. They're saying that it is possible that it's fucking with birth control pills. It's like canceling each other out. So they go on Ozempic and they're on birth control and they're getting pregnant. They're not trying to get pregnant. Or they don't want to get pregnant.

Or some of them are not on birth control and they thought, and their doctor said, you'll never get pregnant again. This girl goes after my second C-section. I was like in my late 30s, I'm like, I'm done or whatever. And so she just got pregnant. But the ozempic babies are coming out to be fine. They're not like, and nothing's wrong with them. They order less at a restaurant. I don't know.

You don't know. You don't have to buy as much formula. Yeah. But I thought there was like, I remember there was a girl in high school who got pregnant right after high school. And she told us, do not do it. She got pregnant because she was on antibiotics for something.

And it canceled out whatever birth control she was on This is a long time, but I remember after that The few times I went on antibiotics if I was on birth control, I would always ask Like is this something I need to be careful of? Yeah, so I think it could be like that. They said it's not necessarily I Don't know if you know, it's not They said it's not necessarily, I don't know if, you know, it's not, they can't say it's hurting or helping, but that could be a positive or a negative obviously, of Ozempic.

If you want, if you're- Depends on how you look at it, yeah. If you were pregnant and it wasn't working and now you're, and then the other thing, you finally get skinny and now you're pregnant. I know, yeah, there's so much, there's so much going on. That's really interesting, wow. Yeah, it's a really interesting thing,

but it doesn't seem to be that. Have you seen this whole JLo trend on TikTok? It's fucking hilarious. I love it. It's so funny. She's obsessed with the block. JLo, I, okay, so I watch little bits. Okay, I'm very confused by the JLo movies.

There's two movies. One is just a bunch of music videos together where she's like Rosie the Riveter but in the future and then dancing around with like, where she walks like she's got a cane and then it's an umbrella. The clips I've seen are pretty, I only watched a little and I couldn't take it.

Then she has another one that's just her being, her documentary, her bet on blonde whatever right being raw And how hard her life is being that she is this incredible? Entertainer yeah, yeah, and one clip I saw I Did the acting was horrific she's acting like it's real and she's like which clip okay? So she has no makeup on and she's rubbing her eyes so much. She's acting like it's real. And she's like. Which clip? Okay, so she has no makeup on and she's rubbing her eyes so much. She's so tired.

She's rubbing her eyes so much and she's like, I miss Ben. Like, yeah, I should have been at the movie premiere. And she's rubbing her eyes and she's like, I mean, sometimes I just can't do it all. And no tears are coming. And she's rubbing like almost to the point where I'm like, wait a minute,

you are someone who has this glowing skin, you have a j-low skin thing. Anyone like our age woman would be like, stop rubbing the wrinkles around your eyes. What the fuck are you doing? And so there's that. Then there's the one that we also saw where she goes, I love taking out my hair. And just goes to show you that she doesn't have great hair, the amount of hair products she's sold and you know, so anytime you see her hair looking amazing, it's none of it is hers.

So she has very short, messy hair and she rubs her and she goes, and it's like this hair is, I like wearing my hair crazy like that. It's a crazy, crazy girl, 16, running around the streets of the Bronx, going to the bodega. And so I started, I went down a rabbit hole and this girl pops up and she goes, enough with you running the streets of the bodega. You went to my same all girl Catholic high school. Your mom taught at this school. Like you didn't have this like, and I think it's so funny because I've talked about it how I'm like, oh my God, I'm so sick of like stars.

Their flex being like, I was a little bit poor at one time. Like just shut up. Like I'm always like, that's why I always joke about like, I come from the south side of a tour Boulevard in the mean streets of the, of Woodland Hills. Sometimes I'd see one, even two coyotes as I walked home from school, like we're all fine. Like we all lived a fine life, she lived a fine life. It feels like she's possibly misrepresenting her Bronx experience. Everyone's so like enough with the Bronx stuff,

you don't claim the Bronx. And then said people would take it when they're like, what's your favorite thing to get at the bodega? And the way she ordered it, or she's like, oh, like a ham and cheese sandwich. She's like, when they're like, what's your favorite thing to get at the bodega? And the way she ordered it, she's like, oh, like a ham and cheese sandwich. She's like, and someone's like, that's not the way you would say it. Like, if you really lived in the bodega,

like you would say, hey, I'm dead, or you'd say something. Yeah, but not that way. And then like, she's, you know, whatever. It's just, I always wonder, does she see this? She's got to. I feel like JLo, someone who is like, checking up on herself on social media at all times, I feel like she definitely, I feel like she's definitely seen it.

I always think, I think it's crazy. I've said this before, like someone with her enormous success and everything, what I think is the problem is that she won't let it go. Like why are you doing everything that a 25-year-old influencer is doing? Sunday morning vibes. Just wanna check in with you guys. I don't know. You should be above all this shit.

And I feel like she says no, doesn't say no to anything. She'll do a partnership with a legging company that's not even her own. What are you doing? I guess she just likes a check. I don't know. All checks are good checks for JLo I guess. She had to get rid of a bunch of shows.

Oh I saw that. That makes me sad too because I went to her like 50th birthday tour thing. I think it was like 2019 or something and it was like seriously one of the best shows I've ever been to. Well I heard that her tickets were $7. Well I mean well that's the thing. Maybe they're $1 I don't know name them name them. Name all the cities that you canceled name them. I think it was like like a good chunk of cities that she had to go up. I feel but I also feel like it's hard out there it is hard if you're at some big arenas and sometimes you're just like You know, you got to be you got to be careful even a big star because people don't have the money to go to these shows

Yeah, you know and it's like to get our ticket prices are like so Expensive now so that hurt yeah Bronx who she's trying to connect with recently, probably don't wanna spend $700 on a ticket. No, but if you wanna see comedy, go to heathermcdallan.net and only buy your ticket from heathermcdallan.net. That's the other thing, people Google without going to the artist,

whether you're a comedian or whatever, go to the exact website first. Because if they buy the ticket secondary, I don't know. But these are big arenas and stuff, so that's a whole nother thing. Poor thing. This is Summer House, which I didn't watch last season,

but I cannot take my eyes off of it because it's about this couple that were platonic friends and then they fell in love over the seasons. He got sober, but he does pot. She still drinks. It's so captivating. Does pot is so old lady, but he does pot. She still drinks. It's so captivating. Does pot is so old lady, but he smokes weed or whatever. And they get engaged, and they absolutely

have the worst relationship ever. It's like known to man. And then she says, Paige or someone's asking her, her friends are asking her, well, like, they're like, oh my gosh, I think Carl's gonna love you and that. And she's like, and it felt really like, no, he's not. And then she's like, how often do you have sex? And she goes, um, um, not a lot, like,

but not, you know, once every two or three weeks. But when we do, it's amazing. And Paige is like, okay, first of all, everybody that's in a relationship lies about how much sex they have. Because everybody, probably, unless you're like, one of those people where like your husband is just all over you all the time,

and then that's annoying, you know? Most people, they're like, I don't know how honest everyone's gonna really be. Okay? So they're like, clearly they're not having any, I don't, I bet it could even be like four months ago when she said this. Who the fuck knows? They have broken up in real life or watching the demise of it.

She's absolutely, she's blaming him for drinking while she's drinking Rose all day long and they're showing her drink it all the time. And then she's like, are you on something? You seem like cocaine Carl right now. And he's like, what? I'm totally not. And then some of the people are like, look, I just don't think you should get married. And so thank God they're not getting married.

He has asked for the ring back. And he was on WatchRms Live and he's like, well, the state of New York says it is mine. And people were in the comments were like, that's okay that like, the state of New York says it's yours because you guys didn't get married and therefore it was like a promise. Meaning like, I mean, there's one way to be like,

this is a gift and then because it's an engagement ring, it's like part of a contract that would become a legal contract. So the ring was part of the legal contract that never was consummated. So that is why he could ask for that back. OK, so he got the ring and she got the apartment. Class-wise, though, like, yeah.

But maybe that's why. And listen, we know these people don't make a lot of money. And now the other thing, on her end, he was sounded like no ambition at all. Did you see that part? I did. And I was kind of like, she was kind of like dogging him. She was like, he tried to do this like sober Ted talk thing

and wanted to like do speaking engagements. Then he wanted to do this and wanted to do that. And like none of it happened. And I just- I don't think she was dying even all. You don't. He's 40 years old. He's been on a reality show for like eight years.

Nothing wrong with 40. I'm saying like, he's not a young kid. It's only like 21 and you're being like a dick to your son. He's 40 years old. He's had all these opportunities. He gave up his job at Loverboy or whatever happened with that, the alcohol company with his friend. And he, and she's like, like you gotta what are you gonna do

like are we gonna have kids and like are we gonna bring our kid to the summerhouse for the next ten years to survive like what is your plan and I think he was and so she's like but you're not following through like you bought the podcast equipment and you're not doing a podcast you said you're gonna do TED Talks but you didn't get an agent to hire you to do TED Talks now the worst idea on earth besides something about her sandwich shop, is a sober sports bar. Yeah, okay, yes, you have a point.

The only reason you're gonna make money is because people are gonna get drunk and buy alcohol. You're not gonna make a lot of money. No guy who's sober is like, I would like to go to a bar and get a real fun mocktail and fight for the chiefs. Like what the, no, that's an awful idea. And then everything that goes into it. So she's gotta be like, no, I'm not gonna stand by

while you come up with an awful idea in the hardest business in America, the restaurant business. No and no. Right, no, I get that. That was not the best idea. I think just from watching the show though Carl feels like none of his ideas are Supported and he I think he said like on watch what happens I like now that he's no longer in the relationship like he finally has

Like the focus drive and determination and no no distractions And he's you know able to sort of like make a few steps towards achieving some of these goals Yeah so I think it's I don't know I feel like it's probably tough for him to sort of like make a few steps towards achieving some of these goals. Yeah. So I think it's, I don't know, I feel like it's probably tough for him to sort of like figure out what he wants to do with himself and his like post sober life with like Lindsay Hubbard. She's such a menace to him. I think they bring out the worst in each other. They're awful. I never thought the relationship was real to start.

Oh, okay. But obviously it was, I mean I really thought it was an act the whole time. Yeah. I thought like maybe he wasn't even into females. That's just my opinion as someone who watched. Then I thought it was fake, like they did this weird like where she's wearing like a nurse outfit and I felt like it was very fake.

Oh that was weird. Like a sexy nurse, I thought it was fake. No, I do think it was real, I do think they got engaged and fell in love, but thank God they're not getting married. Yeah, seriously Candice has announced from Potomac that she is not coming back and I think Hopefully I think it's probably the right move for her. Why not? Yeah I think that she is Someone who has really worked hard to establish a career outside of the house with like her music and stuff and I think that she is someone who has really worked hard to establish a career outside of the Housewives with like her music and stuff.

And I think that people are starting to take her a little bit more seriously in that space. So are people going to be going to her shows like they will, Luanne's? I don't think so. I think if she like if we're talking about like the Housewives fandom, no, but I think that if she like continues to work hard to build a fan base outside of housewives and like a real music fan base Yeah, I think she can totally sing. Yeah. Yeah, then they said Robin according to Big wig hello drama posted this from Jasmine brand the jazz brand that she is leaving So I don't know if this is true this I wouldn't be surprised I feel like the Jasmine brand when it comes to Potomac and Atlanta Tea, they're typically correct. So I feel like this is probably true.

It's just so interesting to me because like Candice and Robin were adversaries this season. So I'm surprised that both of them are leaving. I'm also wondering where this is going to leave Giselle. Where is this going to leave Potomac in general? Because the biggest news is Karen Huger got a DUI over the weekend. She hit a, she swerved off the road, totaled her 2017 Maserati. She didn't want to take a breathalyzer there, which is her right to say no to. Doesn't mean you're going to get out of the DUI, but there's a better way to defend a DUI without a breathalyzer evidence.

I see. And I think she knew that. Did you see her statement? So her statement was, I was with my friend and being that Mother's Day is here and I lost my mother. I'm like, okay. It's March. You're 60 years old and your parents passed.

Most 60 year olds don't have their parents on this earth anymore. It's very sad. I've lost both my parents. I've never used it as like a crutch for anything. I always felt like, oh my gosh, you know, I had my parents up until 10 years ago. That's a long run. They saw my kids like I'm very grateful for that. Not putting that you can't be sad and whatever. But like she brings that up that I lost my mother and Mother's Day is around the corner. Mother's Day is not till May 11th or something. And we're in March.

So it wasn't like tomorrow or today was Mother's Day. And so I was crying and I was emotional. And so no one should drive when they're emotional. So she's absolutely not copping to it because I think she is gonna try and fight it. It might be a low enough blood or whatever it is that they took or they took the breathalyzer at the department.

So sometimes people think if they get to the police department, maybe they'll sober up in the 15 minutes before that, whatever, they could do it. So whatever, I don't know if that has been released yet, but if there's a chance that she can fight it and prove that she wasn't intoxicated, then I think that's what she's going for.

Yeah, a lesson to all, do not drive all your emotional. No, and then Mia from Potomac, basically what I gathered, cause I really didn't watch it this season. I think a lot of people didn't. I heard it was sort of a boring season. Mia was a stripper who met an older guy, Gordon, and they got married and had two kids. And then they owned a bunch of joint chiropractic places. And then his brother fucked him over. And then they went from a fancy house to an apartment. And then she started dating someone. But then what is this new information that she had a whole other boyfriend while she

was engaged before marrying Gordon? Yeah, so on the season finale of Potomac, and yeah it was kind of a sleepy season, but it's been a great season for Mia and like the whole finale was like about her and this drama, which was honestly very compelling. So we have to go back and watch it now. You just watch the finale. The finale is great It's like literally like a documentary special the last 20 minutes about them too, and it's very interesting So she is currently dating this guy named ink who is a radio DJ I guess he has some show that's like syndicated in many cities and she's very proud of that for him

Okay, and they were high school sweethearts and so they've always just kind of been like connected and tethered and According to Gordon her like now a strange husband on the season finale He was like basically spilling all the tea that she's been with ink this entire time even before they got married and that Mia told him throughout their marriage like this is my soulmate and anytime we're having issues That's why I always go back to him and now there's even like questions surrounding the paternity of her second oldest son. Ink thinks it's his and this is all going to be unpacked at the reunion. I think Gordon also might think that it's Ink's. It's like honestly so crazy but Dani and I just interviewed Mia and she seems so happy with Ink currently and she also said that

they have all gotten to a place where they all go out to dinner with each other with the kids so so now Jordan is not still angry at this time oh according to me okay yeah well then I am gonna watch it and so that is good Kelsey and Taylor are still together but I want to wrap it up cuz we were gone a minute. You guys, virtual, how do you say it? Reality. Reality, yes. Get it? Yes. So it's T-E-A at the end of reality. And you guys do interview a lot of people.

You obviously are through, it's through page six, right? Just page six affiliated. And I always see you guys and I'm glad that you came on. Yes, thank you. And we did not talk shit about Danny, which is what the whole plan was to, just kidding. Tell anybody else where they can follow you and everything. Yeah, so personally, you can follow me

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