Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Jay Shetty and Queer Eye’s Jonathan Van Ness Scandals

Episode Date: March 7, 2024

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everything in the news, let's get into it. Well, I read this long article last night and I thought it was fascinating. Jay Shetty, I have never talked about him on Juicy Scoop, but I became aware of him probably in the last couple of years. I know people love him, they live by him. I'm just going to give a little summary of him and then what this is about. So he is a hugely successful spiritual motivator person.

He married, I think he married Jen Jalo and Ben Affleck. He's friends with all these celebrities. He's been on Ellen. He was on the Red Table Talk many times. He was a monk and he wrote a book, Think Like a Monk. And he's a really good looking Indian man with piercing light blue eyes. He's married, soft spoken, comes off humble, total delight. And he is super successful.

He's written numerous books and this woman goes to do an interview for Vulture and she starts to uncover some things about him that don't go with the story that he's told for the last eight years. His journey of going to school in England where he was supposed to go and live a corporate life and then one day he saw Monk speak and he was like, go and live a corporate life. And then one day,

he saw Monk speak and he was like, that's it. I was going to go to the pub after, but I went and saw this. And then I became a monk. And the article is a lot, especially if you're not that familiar with him. But I'm just going to give you my version, my summary. So he comes off great. All these celebrities love him. He is their spiritual guru and friend. I remember listening to the interview he did with Jada Pinkett Smith right after her book came out. And I mean, they were best buddies in all of this.

And you know how much I've gotten into Jada Pinkett Smith's life, my opinion, the fact that I think she is a full-blown narcissist. That is my opinion. I've read the book. I've seen the interviews. You know, that's my opinion. That's someone who's not a therapist. And I remember hearing this, and that was the first time I'd ever heard a Jay Shetty

show. And I was like, this guy is just feeding her ego. This is all like, is he ever going to call her out on her shit? You know, like I thought it was like little whatever, but I'm like, people love him. Kim Kardashian's been on a show. All these people have been on a show and everyone loves him and thinks he's fabulous. But I'm like, whatever, you know, fine. And so in the article, she starts finding as she's doing the article, all these indiscrepancies that

don't go along with his story. And the story is what I talk about, the flex, the flex of, I came from nothing, I did this thing and now I'm here. And what an amazing story that I was a monk, but I'm not going to make you become a monk or become a Buddhist. I'm just going to take what I learned and give it to you. When I give you some juicy scoop, I know you wanna get on the phone with your bestie.

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I know I'm definitely a different version of Heather depending on where I'm traveling or who I'm with. Doing shows on the road, sometimes I bring another comedian, sometimes I bring my son. Well, it all works out so great when you're using booking.com. Book whoever you want to be on booking.com, booking.com. So a lot of what he said now is not exactly the truth. And people that love him are going to be mad that I'm even saying this. They're going to be like, So, a lot of what he said now is not exactly the truth. And people that love him are going to be mad that I'm even saying this. They're going to be like, who cares?

He's still helping people. I do care. Just like I cared when Hilaria acted like she was Spanish and tried to keep that going. And her own husband probably never asked her where she went to high school. Alec Baldwin didn't care. I don't like it. I think it's untrue. And if all of a sudden you guys found out

that I had never gone to Catholic school, that my parents were not realtors, that I hadn't gone on a million auditions that I didn't get, that I, you know, you'd be like, that's weird. Did you know that Heather was actually from Orange County and went to a private non-nominational school and then acted like her stories of placing pumpkins on potential listings in the neighborhood so that her parents could pay for private school isn't true?

And I am not saying I lived a hard life at all. I'm just saying, I told you what my life was and now you're going to find out that really wasn't right. The years are off. It wasn't 19. It was 21 or vice versa. I think that's weird. I don't think he's going to lose anything from it. He'll probably only become more popular. All the Juicy Scoopers now know who he is because I've never literally never said his name before on this show in eight and a half years. So he'll probably benefit from me talking about it, but I find it really interesting in this day and age.

So what he started to do is while he was monkeying, or whatever you want to call it, he was smart enough to get into YouTube. And he's so charming, and he has a British accent, which I truly believe it's why people hire people with British accents to be the hostess at a fancy restaurant or their receptionist. It just makes you feel like you're in a classier place.

It's just like when you're a little child with a British accent, you immediately think they're smarter than your kid. It's just something that we Americans are guilty of myself. So I think the English accent, the good looks, he's Indian, he's a monk who wouldn't question it. But about four years ago, Nicole Arbor, who has a very popular YouTube channel, she was kind of bigger in the news a few years ago because she was controversial, but she was a huge YouTuber, she discovered that he was taking all these, this content and inspirational

quotes and things from non-famous content creators and also famous ones like Tony Robbins. But even Tony Robbins when he started his whole thing said, I read all these books and I kind of put together my own program. But Jay Shetty was giving nobody credit for it. He wasn't giving Tony Robbins credit for it. He wasn't like, sometimes I will see an inspirational quote and I'll be like, wow, I really love this. This is something I'm really going through. And I'll just post it on my page, but it'll have the persons at whatever have I messed up once in my life possibly. I'm

not a huge person of posting that stuff. But I always really try to say, this wasn't my idea. If I don't remember it, I apologize. But this guy was posting, posting, posting, and making it sound like it was his concepts, like he was coming up with this philosophy himself. So she exposes them back in 2018 or 19 with her YouTube video. And he then gets lawyers involved and he's like, we're sorry and we're never going to do that again. And it's not my fault and I'm cleaning it up and whatever. Then he goes on, you know, to have his very popular podcast on all these shows. Everyone's loving them, writing these books. Everyone's loving them.

So, but the other thing that has been discovered in doing the deep dive on Jay Shetty is another thing that I think is that we're going to see a lot more of. We've exposed kind of the evils of multi-level marketing. I've had an author on that was part of it. We've talked about it. There's been the legging documentary. It's not, it's Lollero, that whole thing. There's been podcasts about it.

It's fascinating. We've all had our own experience of ending up at a Mary Kay party. I've told my own stories and getting sucked into that world. There's kind of a version of that, but with coaching and Twin Flames, which was, again, a documentary, a podcast about these two people that had no credentials at all, that were complete grifters, started this thing to make people, convince people that your twin flame is your twin flame, whether they know it or not,

whether they're married to someone else, whether they're not the sexuality you thought you were, like that's your person, and they convince them to do it, and they make them pay for these courses, and then they're like, but now you're certified, so now you can coach other people.

So he has that too. It's very expensive. He has a coaching, a life coaching thing that's like over $7,000 and you can take it and just save it for yourself or become a life coach or then you can start working for the program and recruiting people to pay the $7,000. So then they can be life coaches. But the thing is, if everybody's a life coach, who the fuck is going to need a life coach? That's how multi-level marketing works too. If you get too late into the bottom of the pyramid, everyone in your neighborhood already has the leggings, already has the skincare. You don't have access to another fresh 200 people

to sell your story to, you're out, you're chunk of money, and you have a closet full of crap. That's how it works. So, I don't know that he's responded. So, Vulture said, goodbye, we don't want to do this article, probably because they had an arrangement with him. And that's not the article they wanted. And he's an elite.

So who knows what's going on between him, Vulture, the people that run Vulture, his PR people, you know, Oprah, whoever, who knows. So this girl went to the Guardian. And I think it's really interesting. Other people that I love him, that have met him, he was nice to me and everything. And I don't care because he helps and inspires people. So who cares that he lied? And I do care.

I do care. I think if you're became famous based on a story that isn't true, and I don't care what anyone says about dates, mixing up dates. You know what you were doing at 19 versus what you were doing at 21. You know that you were either a junior in college or you were a monk. You know. So, you don't go do a bunch of different interviews and screw up the age of when you were doing things. To me, that is highly suspect. I'm sure you won't ask me to be guest on his show and I don't care to have

him have him on mine. I thought it was juicy. I suggest you read it and ask me to be asked on his show and I don't care to have him on mine. I thought it was juicy. I suggest you read it and tell me what you think. Also new asshole alert. Wow. This also came out yesterday. Jonathan Van Ness, he is beloved. He is on the new queer eye for the straight guy.

I think they're entering like their six or seventh season. This is where I think he's the hairstylist. There's someone who does the food. There's someone who does the decorating, the interior design. Bobby Burke has left the show and a lot of people thought he should. They were like, my God, he has to redo an entire house and all Jonathanis do is like give someone a trim. Anyway, they come in, they take a straight guy and they change his life. But I think the new season was, it wasn't about just straight people. They just kind of helped anybody that needed a little help in styling their life. So, an article came out that he is a monster, he's a nightmare,

by seven people that have worked with him, seven. So, to me, that says that's not just one disgruntled person, one person that waited on you when you were in a bad mood. They're saying that at least once a day he had to scream at somebody and he was just absolutely awful to work with. So it's many people saying it. I have never met him. I haven't really even watched the new version of Queer Eye that much. So I can say that. So I get it that you like it. But he has been very controversial.

I just realized he does not go by he anymore. He goes by they, them. So in the article, they did use the correct pronouns. So I just remembered that. So it's, they are a monster. Okay? There you go. So that is what people are saying.

Jonathan might just ignore it all and let the fans love the way they've always loved Jonathan. But I did, here's Jonathan, and you can see that Jonathan has long hair and a beard and a mustache. And I remembered, oh my God, I did an impression of him that I remember it got like no love, it got no views, and I couldn't understand why.

And I found it and it's from April 5th, 2019. I put it on my Facebook and my YouTube, whatever. And I did this really funny sketch where I came in and I made over Peter as Jonathan. I just watched it. It was all improv. I have to say it like frickin' hilarious. And I'll repost it on my Instagram and my TikTok so you'll be able to go there and see it right now.

But much like many people in my last eight and a half years of having Jesus scoop, I reached out to Jonathan. I send it to him. I tagged him thinking, won't Jonathan love it? Maybe he never saw it. I don't know. But there was a time we were both at the same podcast network. I tried to be on his show. When I see that there's seven people

and then three others that also said something about him, that he's an asshole, that he was hard to work with. No, I'm not going to go, you know what? I'm not going to cover that story because he was such a delight to me because he wasn't a delight and I am always a fucking constant delight. So there you go. Or I'm a constant fucking delight. Okay. This has been going on for a couple weeks now. Kate Middleton had abdominal surgery, which to me sounds pretty gnarly.

There is so much speculation about why she hasn't been seen. And just today they said, page six says, where in the world is the princess of Wales? The British Army's website quietly removed Kate Middleton's name from the list of attendees for the Colonel's review Tuesday. So there was a photo of her driving in the passenger seat of a car.

Some people are like, that's not her. That is a look-alike. There was a kind of a funny conspiracy thing saying, we think she got a BBL, a Brazilian butt lift, and it takes a long time to recover from that. Maybe she got something else done. What's going on, but then she's out, but she's not out in public, or is this person really her in the car? Is it like she knows something about, you know,

Emstein Island? I don't know. I think what happened is, I think she has a serious medical situation happening. And she is in no position to push herself to be out in public and act fake and delightful. And also, she's probably loving the downtime. Sometimes, that's the best part of being sick, is that like you could just lay in bed or take a little extra time, not get in a tight outfit, not wear makeup, whatever. And a lot of complications

can have it from this type of surgery. We don't know if, you know, her bowels are not working right. I don't know. There could be some bigger reason of why she is not wanting to go out in public or is she milking it, which she has every right to do, to just be like, yeah, I don't need to go to that thing until I feel 100%, until I feel great and look great. Or maybe she got the abdominal surgery and why she was at it. She was like, yeah, give me a little something else. Give me a little booby or butt. I don't know.

I don't think so. I think she's really stunning on her own. I think that this medical issue was a bigger deal or maybe they thought the surgery was going to be an easier recovery and it's taking longer. But I love the conspiracy theories. When I give you some juicy scoop, I know you want to get on the phone with your Bestie. Well, right now the best deal in wireless is at Mint Mobile. Mint Mobile has wireless plans starting at $15 a month. That's unlimited talk and wireless plans starting at $15 a month.

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for your ideal hotel or vacation home, no matter where you go in the US. Book whoever you wanna be on booking.com, booking.yeah, that's booking.com, booking.yeah. Now this just popped up. This is, do you guys remember? And you should. This is Juicy Scoop History. In 2012, Prince Harry went to Vegas and he met a girl at the pool or something and they went up and he was wasted and they went up to his room and he was playing

pool naked in like the fabulous suite and somebody with a really good camera in 2012 got photos of him naked playing pool and he got with this girl. Well, this girl has really killed it in life. She is now a dominatrix and is threatening to give his photos or share them on OnlyFans or something. And it's like, girl, it was 2012. It was literally 12 years ago. And he was young and drunk.

And nobody cares that you might have boned him back then or that he played pool naked after he was drinking in the Vegas sun all day. Not juicy, move the fuck along. Okay, the valley is coming out. I just want to do a little, this is the spin-off of Vanderpump. And I just want to talk a little bit about more on what we talked about on Tuesday's show. More and more, I think my theory is right about Brittany and Jack's separation at this time.

I really do think it's about being appreciated, being loved, having enough of it. I think it is an Airbnb and not like a year-long lease for Brittany. That way she could go, she wouldn't need furniture, you could do it for a month or up to 28 days, you can be close to the neighborhood, it's not really a big deal to go. And I definitely don't think they're doing it for the show, but I do think we will see

some of the trials and tribulations of the show. So anyway, in their promos for the show, I was like, oh, this is so cute. They're all wearing bright colors. They're overly dressed up, but they're got a know, got a little kiddie pool, they have a little driving like truck. And so it's like all these fabulous parents who have kids but still want to be fabulous while having kids. And I'm like, that is so cute. That is such a cute idea. Why does that seem so familiar to me? Well, it's the cover of my book, Well, it's the cover of my book, which also came out in 2013, My Inappropriate Life. And it was about me being a mom on TV living in the valley.

And I put together the cover and I got a cute strapless fancy teal dress. We shot it in front of my lawn with my picket fence and it's me going down a kitty slide into a kitty pool with a hose and I put the photos side by side. Now I am not saying that somebody saw my thing, happened to be reading my book from 13 years ago, my inappropriate life. It was like let's copy Heather's idea. I'm just saying, maybe I thought of it first, maybe I'm a genius. I'm clearly ahead of my time and I live in the Valley and I am the original Valley girl, but excited for the show. This is from my Juicy Scoop Obsessed page on Facebook. And if you want to join that, there's a little question because I only want people in there that actually listen to Juicy Scoop and you'll be able to answer

the question if you listen to Juicy Scoop and my theme song. Okay, someone wrote and I did not allow this in the group. But it says, Lala is pregnant with Jack's baby. Let's discuss. I think this person was joking, but I also saw is Lala pregnant with Brock's baby who is Sheena's husband. I know for a fact, Lala's not pregnant with either one of those babies. She's made it very clear. She went the sperm downer IUI way of getting pregnant, but I do think this is hilarious and I love the juicy thought of it. I think that, you know, I'm seeing a lot of people discussing in groups of like, they're not, they think it's not okay to have a baby on your own and this and that.

And what do I really think being that I'm a married mom and I'm Catholic and blah, blah, blah. I have always said, I think it's fine. I think it's fine. Um, I think it was smart of Andy to do it as a gay man. I think it's, um, I think it's fine for anybody that has the means to do it and wants to do it. And this is in their time of life and they don't want to pass the opportunity

of being a parent because they don't have a partner. So I have no judgment in any of it. And I, you know, what is this? Do you, for the real old juicy scoopers, there was this show called Murphy Brown. And Candace Bergman was the star of it. It was like huge hits that come. And our vice president at the time, Dan Quayle,

made a huge deal out of this was ruining America because this woman who was in her early 40s was pregnant and we didn't know who the father is or how she got pregnant. And it was like, how dare she? So listen, you could have your opinion. I think 99% of people are happy for her. We're friends. I'm happy for her.

I explain why I think it's a good idea and based on her history, why this was a wise choice and the kind of family that she wants to raise and the kind of life she wants to live as a mother. But I also think it's interesting and that's why it's controversial and that's why on last night's show, she is good about saying don't look at all the stuff because in last night's episode, Sheena was very upset. In real time, we see that they were in Lake Tahoe and a fan came up, can I get a photo with all you guys? And the Vanderpump kids, and they're not kids anymore,

but they are all, and 90% of reality stars, like I said, are so nice at taking photos with fans out in the wild. You can absolutely approach them. And it's so shocking to ever hear that one is not thrilled to take a photo because they're new to fandom and they don't really think they deserve it and they're humble and they love it. Okay. Unlike somebody that's maybe been acting since they were 10 and would just like to have their dinner by themselves and they're 50, like, don't, you know, maybe don't go up to Julia Roberts, like you would count as Luan. So anyway, she naturally puts her arm like this and Tom Sandoval was next to her.

And this was only four months after the scandal had broke while they were filming with Tom Sandoval and Raquel. So she starts to get so much hate. And I remember seeing it all in the blogs and seeing all the hate. And you see how much it affects her and how much it hurts her feelings and she's reading it.

And it's like, she's probably had a couple drinks down a lot but she's reading it and like Lala's like, don't go on the, don't read that shit. And I think it takes someone a certain amount of time and some people are better than others of putting the blinders on and being like, this is part of the deal of the show and I'm just going to not look at this shit. And so that was kind of interesting. It's like being like, I'm going off.

And I think people can go off and they don't have to post, they don't have to comment and they can, no one's leaving their Instagram if they're not posting every day. So I think that's something like everybody in this business could kind of like learn from or even regular people, like just take a break from it. You don't have to say, I'm taking a break from it. Just put it away. Like just don't look at it for a few days and like how great your life could be. Speaking of that, so Teresa went on a girls trip and Teresa of New Jersey and wasn't wearing her ring.

And a lot of people started to speculate, oh my God, she and Louis aren't together and they're breaking up. And so she said, hey, thanks for caring so much about me. It should have great attitude. She's like, I guess I'm still relevant if you still really care that much about me. But and I should be flattered by it. Also because Louis and I do so much together, yeah, I can see why people are like, why aren't you together? But he had his trip, I had

mine, and I wasn't wearing my ring. A lot of people like, I don't wear jewelry on the beach, I'm too scared of losing it. I put it in the safe, or I want to go swim in the ocean. I don't want my ring falling off. So, I thought, you know, and she goes, but I don't care. I've been in this business for 15 years. I don't care what people say, but Louis, it does affect him. He does get defensive. He does want to defend himself. He does want to correct the things that are being said about him that are not true. And that's just like, he's just got to catch up as far as like not caring, but it affects everybody differently. And I think it's so interesting. Oh, a couple more things about the lawsuit that I may have not clarified of Raquel Suing,

Tom and Ariana. So here are some of the quotes, which I thought was really interesting from the lawsuit, quote, due to a narrative deliberately formatted by Bravo evolution and the cast, Raquel became an object of public scorn and ridicule. Okay, that's fair. As a result, she suffered in silence as Bravo and evolution watched viewership explode and the rest of the cast enjoyed unseen levels of public recognition and professional opportunity." The idea that human beings are expected to sacrifice their mental and emotional health in service of Brava's rating is obscene.

That's what our attorney said. The lawsuit is squarely about illegal behavior and those who traffic in it and enable it, Mark Garagos, her other lawyer. Raquel has apologized for her part of the affair. That's not a crime. Tom and Ariana are alleged here to have engaged in criminal acts, Mark Garagos. Okay, you can say whatever you want. I still don't know what they're suing for and what actual evidence they have that they really did share that video that was their

FaceTime together that was on Tom's phone. I felt like I was being treated like a prisoner in my own mind and I know what I did was wrong is what Raquel said. But I also think it's very interesting that they said this. Raquel accuses Bravo and Evolution Media of contributing to her suffering by promoting the scandal for ratings. Her lawyers emphasize the mental health aspect of the case and condemn the use of NDAs by NBC and Bravo. So one thing I think is really interesting is she's saying, I wasn't able to say what I wanted to say, how I wanted to say it, everything because of an NDA that I signed with Bravo.

And I don't really understand that NDA situation either. I don't know what, in fact, they signed. I know that there's been times when I've scheduled Bravo personalities to come on the show. They've said it's fine. It's all good. I always say I won't spoil anything that's coming up. But then they'll cancel because they'll say Bravo doesn't want us doing interviews right now. Bravo, like something will happen in their reality world that's so earth shattering.

And I'm all excited because they're coming tomorrow. And then they're like, we can't do it. And I'm always bummed, but that's why I can do a show alone. Not everyone can. But I'm always bummed because I was planning on it whatever and I thought, oh my God, this timing, oh my gosh, God loves me, this is so great that I've got to, but then Bravo's like, no, we're afraid you're going to spoil something you're going to say. And could they come on my show anyway and probably not get fired or find?

But that is a threat that they have and nobody wants to be in the bad light with Bravo. Other stars, the bigger stars they are, the less they care, the more they don't ask permission. And then there's people that it's just their nature to ask permission. It's their nature to always comply. It's just their nature to ask permission. It's their nature to always comply. But now also, everybody has their own podcast and their own Amazon Live where they can drop major scoop or do an Instagram Live or whatever.

And they kinda wanna save it for themselves or go do their own live show and save it for themselves. So I think it's gonna get very complicated. And I think it's like the whole thing has changed so much. And I think it's really changed since BravoCon. And as much as we all love BravoCon, we took these people that were reality stars that were occasionally being recognized at maybe a restaurant, but it was still like a small kind of cult following of who's watching Vanderpump. I mean, think about like Vanderpump like eight, nine years ago.

They're still in their apartments. They're still actually working at the restaurant. And they were in all these countries, but the social media hadn't caught up, BravoCon hadn't caught up. Now, jump to today, these people get on shows and they are, they go to BravoCon and they experience being a rock star. Who doesn't want to be a rock star? Except for maybe Jenna Lyons, who didn't go to BravoCon and they experienced being a rock star. Who doesn't want to be a rock star? Except for maybe Jenna Lyons who didn't go to BravoCon. I don't know if she's going to be coming back. She made it sound like maybe that just wouldn't be something comfortable

for her, but every single other person practically that was currently on a cast that was asked when. And they loved it. I mean, I love it. I love being approached, you know, and all that stuff. But it took me 30 years to get it. I love being approached and all that stuff. But it took me 30 years to get there. So they get there right away and they love it and they want more of it. And I think that is what changed before BravoCon. They would just really be filmed in their home by these people and maybe occasionally they'd go out to dinner and someone approached them.

Even now they could go out to dinner and maybe they get approached or not. But you go to BravoCon and you have thousands of fans freaking out like literally like you're a beetle, like you are Taylor Swift. And I just think it's like a monster that has to be fed and some people can handle it better than others. But I think that's all fascinating. And that's where

I'm confused with the NDA. Like, did she want to speak in that moment or was she, I think that she believed the network when thinking, okay, I'll come back and I'll have my time to share. Like, maybe they said, Raquel, let everyone calm down. You're going to come back. You're going to be able to share your piece. And then when she was in her mental health retreat and seeing how everybody was still ripping on her and everything and making their money and everything because it was their story too, which is fine. Then when they wouldn't pay her what she wanted

and she bailed and then she realized like, fuck this, I think I have a case. But I don't know. I've heard inside that there are a couple more bombs coming. I don't know if those bombs are other lawsuits from different people. I don't know if it's other evidence on different shows in which Bravo and Andy or executives will have to speak to. But it is really interesting and I feel like that the canvas keeps changing as we watch, but there you go. But also on the show, there was a good moment on this boat in Lake Tahoe between Tom Sandoval

and Lala where she basically says to him, right the day that the scandal broke that we found out you were having an affair for seven months with Raquel. You went and did an interview saying that like, I don't share my life that, you know, I'm fake or whatever or I'm deceptive and here you are having this affair for seven months. Just say you're sorry and they really kind of get into it. And so it's very, it's keeping my interest. Meanwhile, Tom Schwartz did a video, a TikTok video in Vegas with a 24 year old,

people found out who she was, she's like a pretty obron haired girl. And I only just thought, when I saw the TikTok video, I'm like, just imagine that like you're out, you have this cute girl, you're like, let's go to Vegas, do something fun. And then she's like, hold on, wait, there is this really fun trend I want to do. And we have to do this dance and we have to mouth these words and how many times it took to do it.

And he's like, can we just fucking get some cocktails and bone? Like, why am I doing this? But he did it and he's a pretty good sport. And so he's over 40, she's 24. And listen, that is the only way now that you're getting on Vanderpump rules is to date someone. That's how Raquel got on. That's how Allie got on.

They both dated James. That's how Randall got on when he was with Alala. That is how Brock is on because he married Sheena. That's how, oh, that's, you know, that's how you get on. You're not going to get on like you did five years ago where you actually go and apply to be a waiter at TomTom or whatever. It's not happening because they're not working at these restaurants, so they're never gonna really take on somebody, and the two seasons that they did that

were not interesting and felt very forced and inauthentic. So if it works out, welcome to Verna Pump Rules, cute redhead. ["The Rage of the Rage"] All right, let's get into traders. Well, we're on the edge of our seat. Who is MJ going to pick? Fedra or Peter? Well, she does stay loyal to the Bravo brand and she gets rid of Peter the pilot.

But she's still like, hmm, she and Shirei, also real housewives of Atlanta, as you know, start to question, could Phaedra be a traitor? Because everybody really, you know, a lot, not everybody, a lot of people really are questioning her, but they're like, well, who's the other? Well, we know it's Kate Chastain. So they meet together, Kate and Phaedra, and they're like, we got to either go for Trishel or John. And they all come to breakfast, turns out they killed John. So he's out.

Now they go to do another challenge, but they're all still very suspicious of Phaedra. So they go to do their challenge, which is this gold rush challenge, where they have to go find gold in this dirt, and it can be up to $30,000 that they can win for the pot. And each piece is worth $150, up to $30,000. But they have to go over this like very difficult

little bridge to get it in. But there is one shield and whoever gets the shield is gonna be saved from the final murder. Well, Fader gets it. But that's not gonna help her for the round table banishment. That would just save her for the final murder, well, Phaedra gets it. But that's not gonna help her for the round table banishment. That would just save her for the final murder. So at one point, Shirei is like, listen, I gotta know.

Are you a traitor, you faithful? Like, where is it? She's starting to question. They've been friends forever. They're on the show. They get through it. She's taking, I mean, Phaedra's so brilliant throughout all this time and she is like,

well, I'm just done like defending myself and this is getting so exhausting and they're bringing all the things that make them think that she's in fact a traitor and they vote and she does get banished and she's a traitor. And what's juicy is that Kate voted for her as well. And there we are. she's a traitor and what's juicy is that Kate voted for her as well.

And there we are. Like it's just, it's, I do love that there was that Bravo element where the MJ and Shirei and then that Kate essentially turned on Phader too, but it also could just be that Phader that she knew that Phader didn't have a chance. So now we have Kate who is the final trader so far, but Kate has also put it out there early in the episode that maybe Sandra or Saundra could be one as well. So there's a lot going on and you can still watch it, catch up the whole thing and it's so juicy

and it's only on Peacock. Every Thursday it drops 9 p.m. Eastern. So check it out because it's coming to the end. Okay, let's talk about the latest with Bianca and Kanye. You know, he had a wearing naked clothes, vagina completely see-through out, and the dad has spoken. Her dad, Bianca, Sensori's dad wants to confront Kanye West over model's trashy nudity that isn't love.

His name is Leo, and he wants proper sit down with Kanye. This is according to page six. He wants to ask Kanye what he would do if his daughter North or Chicago was seen in public half naked. And he wants to just sit Kanye down and let him know that he is hurting the family by turning his beloved daughter into a trashy looking marketable commodity. This is a source close to Bianca said. No man should ever encourage a woman that loves to walk out in public and present herself like this. This isn't love. That is control. So after that story came out, she was seen at some place wearing normal, somewhat normal clothes. Like she was wearing the leggings and all that or the tights, but

it was not full see through badge., I told you guys a while ago that I had a vision. I put it out into the universe and I want to apologize. And I said, full vagina, vagina cleavage, which is the side of your, and people go, Heather, it's not the vagina, whatever, the part of your crotch, okay? The side where that meets your thigh, which is what I like to call vagina cleavage. I'm like, that is going to be a new hot thing for fashion. But also, I think full Vag out will be something. So when the Bianca was seen full Vag out see-through, everyone's seen for like two years, everybody's been wearing basically a bikini with like a see-through cover up over it, but they're wearing that on the red carpet.

I'm not a fan. I don't think it's great. I just think you could do better. And sometimes people's, it's not even like that flattering, but whatever. At least you're wearing, covering up your, you know, crotch. Maybe Kanye really is that influential because that is happening. And also there's these jeans out right now that this is called P-Stain Jeans. It's a real thing, okay? And it's jeans that look like you peed in.

They're female jeans to purchase. Also, this is, I don't know who this actress is, but she is wearing out sheer dial-ons and a bodysuit with what I said, the crotch meeting the thigh to be exposed like you would. Like last year was under boob. I like bottom tick cleavage. Couple years ago it was side cleavage. It is now this, okay? And then this brand called Forward, FWRD, that I have bought stuff from. This is a real thing.

It's a full bodysuit, but it's a naked body underneath, complete with the crotch. Okay? So it's nipples, a belly button, you're supposed to wear that out. And then they have other ones where it's just a crop top with full nipples. So you're not showing anything because you're wearing the thing, you know? And then the skims have the nipples bra, which I think is kind of genius. But this is like you're wearing a bikini that has nipples. So like, if you look close, I mean, you're going to think someone is whatever has their nips out.

It's just, I just want to apologize because I put it out there in universe, universe, and now it's fashion. And now we have to see it. And now we have to act like this is normal. And I don't agree with it. Okay, Kyle and Morgan, Kyle was at the front row for Morgan Wade's performance and filming the gig, but also, Marisa was there as well. So she was filming up, Arisa was there. I mean, we have talked at Nazium about this marriage.

We get to see more about it on the reunion. And of course, we're going to see a lot more on his show about buying Beverly Hills. But in an upcoming episode of the reunion, he, of course, Annie asked, can you see yourself with a woman romantically? And she was like, yeah. I don't know if we're waiting for the people cover of them like wearing jeans with no socks, wrapped around wearing their Kimo Savi hats and holding the guitar and snapshots of them laughing.

I don't know. I don't care. But I do appreciate whether this was milked out, whether she made a lemonade out of lemons of a marriage falling apart or her awakening or really falling in love with Morgan or really not. I don't know. It gave me something to talk about and I find it fascinating and I appreciate that they both shared it and got TV shows out of it.

But she did get another tattoo, Kyle, and it is of a little cowboy hat. And it was from the tattoo artist's Instagram. Some sleuth follows that tattoo artist and saw that it was Kyle who got another tattoo. And the tattoo artist is, are you youthful? Okay, it's a cowboy hat. I don't know, she's getting into it. It's a fashionable thing. You know, it's, it's let her have her tats. Okay, on FX and Hulu is the show Feud, Capote vs. the Swans. I think it is so good. I'm actually kind of surprised it has not gotten

more buzz. I think maybe for younger people, they can't really get into how annoying Truman Capote is. But the guy imitating him is like so perfect, but he's like, oh, you're past your prime, darling. And he's like this alcoholic guy who was huge. He wrote Breakfast at Tiffany's in cold blood. He's an amazing writer. And in the 60s and the 70s, he was just a toast of New York.

And this was a time where people knew you were gay, but you couldn't bring your boyfriend to something or anything, but it was New York. So he was the toast of the town. And he had a group of fabulous women that became his friends. And he acted like each one was his special friend. But the women themselves were friends. And he'd have like black and white baldness. This all really happened. And it was, it's so it's very juicy. It's based on this book. But Lee Radzwell, who is Carol Radzwell, mother-in-law

from Real House of New York, and also Jackie Kenneo-Nassos sister, she's played by Calista Flockhart and she's in it and that's very juicy because I'll tell you why it's so interesting and applying it to today. So Truman Capote did not have a podcast, but he was a writer and he'd written all these, like I said, these great scripts that became movies. But as he got alcoholic and pill-popper and just not with it, he gets a little desperate for material and he decides to share all the juicy scoop that these female friends that are high society women that, yes, they're on the society pages, but they're not real housewives because housewives did not exist. So nobody knows what's going on in their bedroom or their marriages or if they're having an affair or if their husband's having an affair or whatever their crazy stories

that they share. They share it with him, their gay best friend. And the husbands are like, oh, go be with your gay best friend. We know you're not fucking Truman Capote. Anyway, he goes and he spills all the juicy scoops and he like barely changes who they are. So everyone knows that this one is Babe and this one is Slim and this one is Lee Razwell and like, so there you go. And they turn on him and then he becomes the victim. And it is for all of that I really love. Some episodes are a little slower than others. Some are juicier than others. I can't get enough of it. But if there's like six or seven out. I don't know how many are left. I think I'm going to get the audiobook because they kind of go through

each woman and I'm fascinated by that time. I wish I could speak to my aunt Claire, who lived that life. She's in heaven, but she was high society in New York. And it would be so juicy to hear about it. Also, if you have an older woman in your life that lived this life at all, that's still on earth, you should absolutely watch it with them and pause because I wish I would have done that with bad men, with my parents. I wasn't watching it, they were watching it, and I was like, what? What is this show on? Then I watched it after they both passed. I was like, oh my God, they lived this life. They were in advertising this just during their era. I wish I would have asked them everything

as it was happening. But it's really good. And then how he gets jealous of them and resentful. And they miss his company, but they can't trust him anymore. And then he realizes like, well, my new life is just being on talk shows. Like now I'm just a personality. I'm not even a writer anymore, which is interesting because that's happening to today. There's a lot of actors and writers and fabulous people that are now just like, I'm just going to be a personality. I'm just going to be a podcaster. I'm just going to be on a reality show. I used to be an actor, but fuck it. This is easier and more fun. And I got to go where the money is. And so he's like doing these talk shows and he's like

spilling. He's like having like hot moments where he's spilling the juicy scoop about these women. And one of the things he spills is about Lee talking about how she was pissed at her sister, Jacque O'Nassis. and he makes fun of Jacque O'Nassis looking like not great or something, and then they get to fight about it. I want you guys to watch it, but all of it is just really so fascinating. I want to get Carol back on Juicy Scoop to see what she recalls, and she's very, very fond of her mother-in-law. And I think, you know, had a wonderful relationship with her. So it must be very interesting when you see a show about somebody

that you intimately knew who's not on earth anymore and you're like, well, that's not true or that wasn't portrayed that way or, well, that part is, but that isn't, I think, it must be like so fascinating to watch like your family, you know, on TV isn't, I think it must be so fascinating to watch your family on TV. Oh, and then this was also in People. It said Lee Redswell was obsessively jealous of her sister Jackie Kennedy, says author of the book that inspired Feud. I don't know. I think sisters can be jealous and still love each other. I think that's one of those two things can be true at the same time. And sometimes maybe they're happy for them and maybe sometimes they aren't.. I think that's one of those two things can be true at the same time. And sometimes maybe they're happy for them and maybe sometimes they aren't. And I think she probably had moments

where she was pissed or annoyed and vented to Truman, just like Kathy Hilton was pissed and annoyed and probably vented to Lisa Renna about things that bothered her about Kyle and the show and the thing. And she just had a venting moment and thought that the venting would stay there. And that's why she wrote Lisa Renna and was like, you know, no way, no, don't share what happened. And, you know, Lisa Renna decided to share it. And I actually think that is what turned the audience against Lisa Renna because it wasn't filmed, it wasn't recorded. And I believe that she had that venting session Rennan because it wasn't filmed, it wasn't recorded. And I believe that she had that venting session.

I believe that it wasn't flattering and thank God it wasn't filmed for Kathy Hilton. But I also think, can't you do that with a friend? And if your friend is acting like they're there for you, can't you be able to trust that they won't repeat it, whether, and especially not on a TV show? So I think that is what kind of turned people against Lisa Rena. But Lisa Rena is having her best life. She and her daughter are looking like the Adams family

out of Paris fashion show. I mean, the Paris fashion shows are like fucking terrifying. Everyone looks like they crawled out from, you know, like remember that movie where like the girl, where you're not supposed to watch the VHS tape, and the girl like crawls out from, you know, like remember that movie where like the girl where you're not supposed to watch the VHS tape and the girl like crawls out from the TV and she's like, like that's what everybody's looking like at these fashion shows. They're wearing their like, remember Slender Man, that weird thing? People are wearing Slender Man's blazers out.

The models are hideous. They're like, everyone just looks awful. So I mean, sure, you want to invite me? Yeah, I'd like to go. Who the fuck wouldn't? But like, I'm not, if I ever invite you to another fashion, I'm only invited to one Gucci. And I looked super cute. I will only look cute. I'm not going to wear your ugly, weird outfit. I'm not going to have a price tag hanging from it because that's the theme of the fashion show. Like just ew. But yeah, I think there's probably times that like, yeah, come on, you're both looking

for men and your sister marries the president of the United States. And then the other part of it is that she was dating Onassis first. Lee was divorced and she was dating Onassis and then Onassis was Jackie. And like in this book, Jackie and Lee or Lee and Jackie, there is a story in Who Knows if It's True that basically Jackie was like, I need this more than you. I need to marry someone that can protect my children because the Kennedys are cheap with me. I don't have secret service anymore, but we're being hounded. Myself and my two children, Caroline and John John, buy the press all the time. And this way I could be with this rich old man. And there's stories that she let him have a girlfriend. Oh, NASA's Jackie, why she just went shopping and lived her life being rich.

And Lee was like, what the fuck? But then Lee found somebody else. It just like, I can see it. I think it's so fascinating. And that's the show I've been watching. Little update on Nigel Lyskow. He claims that he received loving emails which he can share that will refute Paula Abdul's sexual assault allegations.

So to remind you guys, Paula Abdul is suing Nigel Lyskow. Now he was the producer of American Idol, which she was on the first many seasons of, and then he put her on his show where he was also the host, a judge, so you think you can dance. And she sang on two different occasions. He sexually assaulted her, that he was holding that over her head. He's saying it's totally not true. And then he has all these texts which is shared where she's like, I love having you in my life. You're such a good friend. Thank you for the beautiful flowers. Totally unnecessary. So sweet.

You're the best. The cast and crew love you. Now, that's always been a hard thing of when someone comes forward that they may have had a friend, what appears to be a friendly professional relationship with a person that now say that they were a perpetrator to them. We don't really know. She could come back and say, I did that because I was afraid, because he said, I was hoping that would be enough. Maybe she's gonna say, I was hoping if I was such a good friend, so nice and accepted every gift

and acted like this other incident didn't happen, we could just go on and I could just keep being employed as a judge on these shows. But now looking back, that wasn't right and I knew exposed to truth. Who knows, but that looking back, that wasn't right, and I need to expose the truth. Who knows? But that's the latest with that. Rihanna likes a paycheck, and she performed at this billionaires wedding in India that

like all these super famous people went to. I saw Ivanka Trump went with her family, and they're two billionaires or a billion, yeah, I think it's a billionaire marrying someone. I don't think it's a billionaire's daughter, whatever. They're billionaires in India. And she went there and performed and she got over $6 million. But people said, they got out that it was a very lackluster performance. And then the comments were like, you know what, she's not a great performer.

Like her songs are great, but she's not, you know, running around like Madonna or J.Lo or whatever. She just sings a song and is a little flipping about it and like isn't killing it on stage. She's not the greatest performer ever, but you can't blame her for taking that paycheck. And if you're willing to pay that $6 billion to have her come, I think it's so interesting that more and more like superstars are like going and just performing for $6-$10 million for a billionaire and you're like, hey, if they're going to pay me, sure. And I have been putting it out there. If there is a billionaire, you don't even have to be a billionaire. And your wife's a huge fan of

Juicy Scoop or your daughter or whatever, or they just want like their dream is just to like hang out with me. Let's talk because I'm not above it. You know, I'm a delight. You're a delight. Let's make a deal happen. And I will not give a lackluster performance. If you knew me to perform stand up, I will do it, you know, amazing.

So Kristin Cavallari is dating this new guy. He's 24, she's 37, and she's like, why is everyone freaking out about the age gap? Technically, this makes her, technically, makes her a puma. She's not a cougar. A cougar, I believe, has to be in her 40s, and it goes all the way up to panther, gray panther, okay? And a puma is this girl who's in her mid to late 30s

and she dates a hot guy in his 20s. And actually there was supposed to be a movie years ago starring Jennifer Aniston called Pumas. But these guys are like these Montana boys. And basically they lip sync songs and they're like cute country guys. I think they're from Montana. And she's dating one of them and they're like cute country guys. I think they're from Montana. And she's dating one of them and she's like literally doing TikTok videos with them now.

And they're like out of pool together and they're having fun. And she's like, I don't understand why everyone's being so fucking weird. Like, let me have my fun. And we just talked about Tom Schwartz who's 40 dating a 24 year old. So that's kind of funny. And then Spencer Pratt is so hilarious, you know, in front of the show, he's gonna be on soon, I promise, we just were texting. He's like doing his TikToks and he's like, if these Montana boys were on the Hill's reboot, like the show would have gone forever.

Like this is the kind of scoop, like we needed the kind of juice that we need. Anyway, I do think it's kind of weird that your career is like you're a TikTok band just malving. But I don't mean who cares. Like she's not out to marry anybody. She's divorced with three kids. The last thing she wants to do is like get someone serious. This is pretty interesting. If you're watching Real House, so I submit Miami, I have to say Larissa Pippen really kind of makes the show because, you know, she's just kind of like fun to look at. She's had, you know, her looks have changed a lot. She's

with Marcus Jordan and we're going, apparently Marcus Jordan comes out and is like nasty to the cast. I think that's the next and final episode of the reunion. But now Scotty Pippen had this alleged ex-lover and she is suing him for stalking and she claims that Larsa of Real House of Miami also caused her suffering. So this woman is saying that she dated Scotty Pippin years ago when Larissa was married to him and like Larissa was harassing and it just seems like the flimsiest lawsuit ever. But I thought that was kind of interesting. And then I saw But I thought that was kind of interesting. And then I saw a reel to promote selling the Hamptons. And it's like selling Sunset, but it's in the Hamptons.

So it's hot young realtors and tiny outfits in $20 million homes, which they would never get the listing in real life, but whatever, it's a TV show. And Larsa Pippin is in a preview of one of the episodes, Looking at the Houses. And I'm like, okay, there's certain people that I've seen do way too many guest appearances on reality shows. Larsa Pippin, looking for houses. Also, Kelly Rowland, looking for houses. And I want to know, have either of them ever bought a house from any of these brokers where they, I know Larsa Pippin was also looking at a house these brokers where they, I know Larissa Pippen was also looking at a house in selling sunset. I don't know who the broker was or million dollar listing.

Like they just must be like, who, what celebrities can we get in that will get cute and are desperate enough to act like they're actually interested in this house? Like it's never, can we just, ugh, it's so annoying. Okay. So now I'm going to finish up the show with a couple disturbing crimes. So like if you're not into that, okay. This was crazy. You know when I had Dr. Lesley on, one of the things she said was, I don't let my kids

go on sleepovers. And I said, why is that? I'm seeing that more and more in TikTok. She's like, because in her work, like 70% of assaults on kids are done at sleepovers at other people's houses. So, so many people sent me this article and it's very disturbing. So, there was this 57-year-old dad. He had just, he just now filed for divorce. This happened in August. I don't know where the mother was in this, but his 12 year old daughter invited a few girls over for like a spa night and they set up their beds

in the basement and they did all these, they went swimming, they had a barbecue, the dad was like supervising them and he made them mango smoothies. And the girl felt like there was chalky stuff in it. So the one girl like faked it and didn't finish it. And he was kind of like mean about it. And then they all go to bed and he keeps coming down, checking, like waving his hand in front of the girl's faces, checking, breathing. And we know this because the one girl that

didn't have the mango smoothie stayed up and He like she was laying on the bed next to her friend who was passed out because she dared the smoothie And he like moved that girl away from her so she starts frantically texting her mom and and anybody Adult in her family because they weren't answering because it's middle of the night come get me. I'm scared. I'm scared I'm scared the mom gets them the leave, they go to the hospital, a couple of the girls are still completely out of it, like can't walk. I mean, so disturbing, but it just goes with that thing,

which is just so sad, but like, no, nobody should have sleepovers, they really shouldn't, unless you, I don't even wanna say if you even know the people, you just don't know. And again, there's no point. I agree. Like, you have the rest of your life to live in a dorm with someone when you're a full functioning adult, but when you're a kid and you're at someone's house and you're eating

and you're having a fun, just have your mom pick you up at 10. Nobody needs to stay there past 10. That's my opinion. Love is blind is on tonight, I believe. And we're going to find out who got married. That's a good one. I also want to talk about this, couple to throuple. It's a show on Peacock. You know, I love the seeking sister wives. Seeking sister wives is coming back. Okay. It's coming back and they're showing that couple that I was fascinated by where the girl clearly didn't want, should they have two boys, the girl clearly didn't

want another wife. I don't know if they just want to be on TV, but the husband now is back and he's like, we read the scripture and the scripture about the Holy Spirit coming inside of you is really the man spreading his sperm to numerous women. This is what is on the TLC website. And she's like, yeah, and in the previous season, I didn't think the show was coming back. In the previous seasons, he's like, I'm going to find, we found this girl like Rosalyn or something and she bailed when it finally came down to actually moving to America and like

getting married and having his child, she wanted no part of it and like moved on. So now they're seeking for another. So now I'm watching this show from couple to threple and they go to like an island, like a love island, and there's all these couples and they're looking to take on a third. And most of the couples are a man and a woman looking for a girl, but there's two gay guys looking for a guy. And then there's a queer couple where the girl's a lesbian and the guy was mostly, had a lifestyle mostly being gay,

but then they found each other and now they're like, whatever goes. I don't believe those people. I think they just like were friends and wanted to be on TV. Anyway, in watching it, they have to, once they take on their third, they all go back to their suites and they all have to sleep in the same bed. And the third has to be in the middle, which there's no way I could ever sleep in the middle. Like I have to be on the side with like a leg out.

Nothing sounds worse to me, even when we'd have our kids sleep in our bed. Like I couldn't even handle it. And it's like some of them don't do anything. Some get busy right away. But it really feels like two people just like taking on a sex slave. Like it is so bizarre. I would be like, what the hell am I watching? But I couldn't turn away.

So I was watching that and I like, I don't know. It's just, I was like, and then I was like, what if this was just society? Like what if this was just, you grew up in everybody's family, there were three parents that all lived together and all slept together. I mean, listen, it doesn't work out. Spoiler alert, it does not work out. It doesn't work on seeking sister wives. It doesn't work here and it doesn't work on sister wives either, which I am going to now talk about something very sad. This news came out last night. Janelle Brown's son Garrison has ended his life and it's so sad he was featured on the show sister wise for many years. He was 25 years old. It was with a gun and unfortunately his other brother that was also featured. Her other

son is the one who found him. They, Janelle posted about it. Mary has posted about it. The photo that Janelle posted was him in his combat gear. He served in the Armed Forces, which makes you wonder, was there PTSD? We'll never really know what brings someone this, if it's a multitude of things or one particular thing. I believe they're currently filming, you know, of course, TLC is very sad about it too. And I just kind of wonder what will happen with the show? Like how will they address this? We have never seen this on a reality show before. Of course, Unreal House has a Beverly Hills,

Taylor Armstrong's husband also ended his life, but it was not while they were filming and they were going through divorce and she did not come back to Beverly Hills after that. Many years later, she just recently went on OC, but she's not continuing with that. But it's such a dark, sad, the worst thing that could ever happen to a family. And I just, I don't know what I would do if I was the producer. I don't know, do you take a permanent, you know, obviously you're going to take a break

from filming or are you going not to because it's like a documentary. It's just so sad. And I know that, you know, everything I've seen is just obviously a lot of love and care for this family. So that, that was really, really sad. Also, this was a case I covered for a long time. This was Jennifer Doolos and she was the beautiful mother of five. And she went missing one morning, Connecticut mom. She was going through an awful divorce

with her husband. And where they were fighting over the kids. He already had a girlfriend. She just was like, I just want to live my life. Just stop. He had borrowed $2 million from her mother. The mother was demanding that he return the money. He was having financial issues. He was a builder. He was this guy who's Greek and he was good looking. But they were having an awful divorce. She goes missing after dropping the kids off. We never see her again. That was over three years ago. They start to investigate him and they realize that they have footage of him dropping off

bags in a trash can with his girlfriend. In those bags, they get its bloody clothes and things like that and it's DNA and it's DNA of the girlfriend. So that's very bad. He also has an employee of his, he goes, detail my car but also remove the two car seats, the two front seats of this truck. And this is after the wife has gone missing. And the guy car seats, the two front seats of this truck. And this is after the wife has gone missing. And the guy is like, I really don't want to do this. But the guy does what he's told, but he keeps the two original seats and eventually turn that over to the police, which had blood on them.

Eventually the husband does get arrested, even though he's doing interviews and saying like, I didn't do it, I didn't do it, we don't know where she is, she may have just taken off. She was a writer and she'd written a book very similar to Gone Girl, where the woman fakes her own missing and everything to get a cheating husband back played by Ben Affleck. That was a very popular book and movie. But she wrote it before it ever came out. And they're like, what? Maybe she's doing that. Everyone's like, of course, she's not gonna leave her

five kids and like have them worry. Something went wrong and we think it's you. He gets arrested and while on bail, he ends his life in his garage in his car. Just now, the girlfriend has been found guilty of tampering with evidence, hindering a prosecution, disposing of evidence, not being truthful to investigators. All these counts she has been found guilty of. Not murder, but enough counts that if you put it together, her sentencing could actually go up to 50 years.

And she has a daughter and she's always claimed her innocence, always said, you know, I didn't know what was going on. I thought she really was missing, whatever. But they found her guilty in planning a murder and disposing of the evidence. So she's going to be sentenced. Another crime that I've talked about is Rebecca Grossman. Rebecca Grossman is from the area in which I live.

She's 62. She was quote, unquote, a socialite. Her husband was a big plastic surgeon. They had the Grossman Burn Center, which was this great place to help people that are severely burned. She had an open marriage with her husband at this time, and they had two kids that are like 19 and 17 or something. And so she had a boyfriend, named Scott Erickson, who's a former baseball player. In September, I think it was September of 2020, she and, so it was COVID and kids are away at home

from school, she and the boyfriend have one drink at one location and one drink at another. And they're going back to, I assume a place to like hang out her house or an extra home she had. And she goes speeding through this crosswalk situation and hit two little boys and they died. The mom was walking her four kids and the two older ones she couldn't pull back. She could only pull back the five year old. She continues to go and tell her car because there was an impact shuts off the fuel. So she then has to stop.

And she's like, you know, her on-store goes on. She's like, I don't know what happened. And they're like, well, there was an accident a little bit back just where you passed. Did you hit anything? And she's like, I don't know. The cops come and she gets arrested. And this has been going on now for three years. Of course, she has the funds to have, you know, the cops come and she gets arrested and this has been going on now for three years. Of course, she has the funds to have the best attorneys and she goes on trial and they say,

we think it's Scott Erickson who hit the boys and she was after them and her car has smash marks in front. It shows her black box from her car, shows that she was going 81 miles an hour. But the defense was like, why is Scott Erickson not even least being questioned? And then her daughter comes on and says, Scott Erickson was hiding in a bush and I saw him there. And then he threatened me that if I say the truth that it was really his car that hit it. And the defense was saying, you know, he turned a different car that he into the police to check not the one he was really driving. He has two that are similar.

Anyway, the jury didn't take any of that. They found her to be guilty of it. And now she's going to be sentenced on April 10th. She's facing a lot of years. The parents finally have a little bit of closure because they're like every day that we'd go to court this felt like we're reliving our children's funeral. Every time we had to have another hearing and everything and her attorney is setting up an appeal.

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