Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - J.Lo Files, Billionaire Yacht Conspiracy and Scott Peterson

Episode Date: August 22, 2024

A billionaire’s yacht sank just two days after his business partner was also killed while riding his bike. J.Lo files for divorce from Ben. They had no prenup. Scott Peterson speaks on camera after 20 years behind bars for killing his pregnant wife. I go through the evidence that was not shared in his trial. Brandi Glanville released the video of Andy Cohen and Kate Chastain asking her for a threesome. Travis Kelce is going to be a movie star, sorry Taylor. Enjoy!  For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to https://Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code JUICYSCOOP Go to https://RO.CO/JUICYSCOOP - Memberships start at just $99 for your first month. Medication costs are separate Visit https://Sonobello.com/summer and listeners can access the exclusive summer savings event featuring the best pricing of the year Go to https://AwayTravel.com/juicyscoop to see the new softside luggage from Away Stand Up Tickets and info: https://heathermcdonald.net/ Shop Juicy Scoop Merch https://juicyscoopshop.com  Get EXTRA Juicy on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop  Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald  Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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get on it. Don't cry to me. You're going to have the best weekend ever. And there are not many tickets left. Everything else for the rest of the fall is also at HeatherMcmcdahl.net. So this is a crazy sad tragic story about a billionaire's mega sailing yacht that sank. I mean, or capsized. It was horrible. It was these people were on a big vacation. This man was celebrating the fact that he had been in court for many years facing a fraud charge. He and his partner, they sold their business to Hewlett Packer, and they sold it for $11 billion. Well, shortly after that, they said, wait a minute, this isn't worth more than three. You lied about $8.8 billion of what it was worth. They were fighting in court this fraud charge for years, like nine years or something it

went on for. The guy prevailed. He wanted to have a beautiful vacation with his wife and his daughter and celebrate this. And so they went on this yacht trip with 12 passengers and 10 crew members. A size this, a yacht this size, no matter how big it is, you can only have 12 people spend the night. Like if you wanted a party of 30, then you could. But if they're spending the night, no matter how big the yacht is, even if it could house 100, then it has to be a commercial vessel. So they had the 12 people and 10 crew members, like a captain, a chef, all of that,

like you see on below deck, except it was a sailing thing. And the way I understand it is there was this weird freak storm that happened. They were just, I guess, hanging out, not currently sailing, but maybe during the night had anchored or something. All those details are a little sketchy. And water started coming in and people were thrown outside of the boat. One woman was an attorney for the law firm that got him off of these fraud charges. She and her husband survived along with her one-year-old baby, but for like an hour, she even said at one point it was so dark and the water was so rough that she lost her one-year-old

child for a minute. She was able to hold the one-year-old above the water until they were able to join some of the other people in the lifeboat. Then, of course, people came and tried to rescue this. It's been going on for a few days now. They've had different diving groups go down, though they can't stay down there very long. They're looking through windows to see if anybody is surviving or if they can see anybody in the cabins. It's really tragic. anybody like in the cabins. It's really tragic. And six of the people that are missing, one is the billionaire owner who was facing that charge, along with his daughter, his wife made it. And

then of course four other people are missing. Now what's very weird involving this case is that the missing tech tycoon, Mike Lynch, that's the man who is still missing and it was his yacht that had this happen to, his partner died after being hit by a car just a couple days prior. He was riding his bike and he got hit by a car and he died just a couple days prior to this yacht weird, freaky thing happening. So you can imagine the talk that's happening and the comments and whatnot. And even the way people in Daily Mail are writing it, they're like, yeah, this seems strange. However, they won. They weren't like facing jail time. They weren't facing a big payment. They actually succeeded in this. So if you did think there was foul play on either end, who would be doing that? Or maybe

there is no foul play or maybe there's other business dealings that these two, who knows if you want to try to draw something, but it could just be a very strange, sad and tragic coincidence. It was an 11 billion fraud trial. That's what it was about. It was about $11 billion, like I said, and they felt that 8.8 of those billions were fraudulent in when they were doing their accounting to sell the company. But in the end, they won, celebrated, and then this horrible thing happened. So we'll see. It seems like these things, whenever we're like, what's going on with it? You know, this is strange.

And then it just like goes away. And then like, you're always like, whatever happened to that weird story? So I don't know. I hope that they keep researching it. I hope these people are found. But it's bizarre. Okay, a little update. Now Brandon Sklenner,

he is one of the other stars. So there are three stars in the Blake Lively, it ends with this movie, ends with us movie. He made a statement on his Instagram, like leave Blake Lively alone, this social media hate is out of control. Leave her alone. Like, if you want to see the movie, see it.

Don't, you know, just stop. And one of the things that I've seen that people are doing like kind of funny jokes about is the fact that, you know, this was about domestic violence. And when she's promoting it, since she's a producer, she was like, get your flowers, grab your girlfriends, go see this movie. So then I've seen these several different accounts

of little comedic videos of someone being like, Schindler's List, go grab your friends and see what's on that piece of paper, like make seven years a slave's on that piece of paper, like seven years of slave, or you know, all that kind of stuff, and making it like light of it. But other people said, they were like, oh, Titanic, it'll get you wet, come see it. Now, those movies, I don't think were necessarily promoted in a way of like, get ready for a really sad, awful movie. I mean, people weren't saying that on the red carpet either. So I think that they, in some ways,

I'm a little bit now like, yeah, I think it's time we lay off Blake Lively. Either you want to go see the movie or you don't. I don't think she thought this was going to be her Oscar movie. I think that she thought it was a hit book, wanted to do it, and she probably wasn't the only one that said, you know, why don't we change the edit a little bit? Why don't we put out this trailer? I mean, there's a whole group of people that come out with trailers. However, I saw a new trailer. They've created a new trailer.

Because I did tell you the first time I saw the trailer, I was like, what is this about? And I definitely had no clue that it involved domestic violence. Like literally there was one thing that showed like a glass being thrown and hitting the ground. I would not think that was domestic violence. I think that could be you alone being like, oh, you know, it doesn't mean you're hurting somebody. It no way indicated that's what the movie was about.

The newest trailer does a little bit, but still not a lot. So I mean, I just, I do find this as kind of an interesting story about social media and promoting movies of a certain calip, you know, a certain subject matter and whatnot. And kind of then getting the PR firm involved and going after Blake Lively in a way of like, oh my God, she's always played bitches, maybe she is. And then finally to the point where, okay, I think a week and a half of giving her shit is enough, leave her alone.

But she hasn't made any statements, she can always turn off her phone and just like enjoy her rich life and a cute husband and act like this never happened in two weeks because no one will be talking about it then. JLo and Ben. JLo has finally filed for divorce. That was yesterday, which coincidentally, August 20th, was two years after her big celebratory Georgia plantation or wherever it was, fabulous wedding. So two years to the date,

some people think that was kind of a deliberate plan of when she was to file. The other big scoop on that is there was no prenup. She's worth approximately 400 million and he's worth 150 million. And meaning they've been married for two years and there's no prenup, so they are

entitled to whatever money they made as a couple, individually or not, as a couple, they're entitled to split that amount if one wanted to pursue that. It is my prediction neither will pursue anyone's assets. They just will like break whatever, if there was a property together and they put in equal amounts, they'll take equal amount out plus the profit split in half. I think he's not going to fight anything. In it, she did it without an attorney. So it's like there's no attorney of record. I just think that it's going to be like, let's just go our separate

ways. They're trying to sell the house they bought together. So I think once that's sold, that'll probably be the end of it. He already bought another house. She's currently looking for one. You know, when she spent all this time in the Hamptons riding her bike around and looking at her Delola alcohol at the local Bevmo, she, he was never to be seen. He didn't attend her Bridgerton party.

It's not like they had a like, oh, I just didn't want to get up in a suit. I mean, can you imagine like anything worse for Ben Affleck than doing that? So I think she already knew it was over. And she was like, you know, and if we were together, I probably would have never had a Bridgerton party. I probably would have had a Red Sox party and like let you eat cheese balls. But no, I want this and I'm doing my own thing." And I think she wanted to wait two years so that it would say two years, that it was at least a two-year marriage, not 18 months or whenever we first started to hear they were having problems. This is her fourth marriage, her fourth divorce, and it's his second. And I think she's pissed and I think she's humiliated. He pursued

her after the A-Rod thing. Now A-Rod, to remind you guys, they were engaged. They always dressed the same. He was down to always wear like cream colors with her. Way back when when she was first with J-Lo, he would slick back his hair and they would drive Rolls Royces around Beverly Hills and he would get all dressed up. And then, you know, that didn't work out. And from what I remember, there was some type of cheating on his side. That's what I recall, not saying it's 100% proof, when she was with him. Then she gets with A-Rod and turns out it gets exposed on the Southern Charm reunion that Madison was in communication with A-Rod. Right after that, she breaks up with A-Rod and then Ben comes in. Some of the comments are like, what about her kids? She has twin, boy-girl twins, and they are probably like 15-ish now, right around in between the ages of the three kids of Ben Affleck. And they are probably like 15-ish now, right around in between the ages of the three

kids of Ben Affleck. And it always seemed like when they were together, it seemed like the kids got along. Those kids also got along with A-Rod's kids. You know, it's like, I do think that is something that's, you know, unfortunate when people get divorced. Because with step siblings, there really is no tie, unlike a half sibling, there is no tie to like hang out, are we going to keep in touch, are we going to be Facebook friends? Not that they'd be Facebook, could we be TikTok friends? Whatever. I do think that part is kind of sad.

But hopefully she'll just spend the next two years hanging out with her kids until they go off to college or whatever they do after high school and just chill and maybe just focus on the Delilah or Delola or whatever the drink is because, you know, she's not performing and who knows. But it is interesting because like I said before, when he was interviewed, he had to be part of her two projects, which she did not seem like he was down for. He was not for it. And in that, he said, I have an addiction to alcohol, but she has an addiction, and I'm paraphrasing, she has an addiction to fame, her fans, likes, being relevant. Like I said, I'm paraphrasing. Basically he said that was her addiction. And He never was in this business to be famous, and she is one of the most famous people. I just don't think it was going to be a match at 50.

I think maybe if they'd gotten married 20 years ago and they were 20 years younger, maybe it actually would have sustained, but not when you're this stuck in your ways, both of them. They just don't match. They just really are not similar personalities at all. Ironically, this popped up yesterday. It was 10 years ago yesterday that I took a photo with J.Lo, which was our last show of Chelsea Lately.

Chelsea Lately, which a lot of you know me from, ran for seven and a half years, and it ended just this past week. It's interesting that Juicy Scoop has gone on longer. Juicy Scoop has been here for nine. So I kind of think about my life pre-JS and after JS. So here we are, okay. He was seen, Ben Affleck was seen with his ex-wife yesterday, the day of the filing. Look, they have three kids together, one who is still like in middle school.

So there is a lot to be doing with these kids and I love that they're active and co-parenting. So I think that is great. Chris Franchola always joked about how Ben would like slam the door. And I swear to God, if someone wants to put a video together, the amount of times, I mean, in a millimeter, did he miss her crushing her ankle? Like she would get in the backseat and then he would get in the front and he would just slam it.

And I'm like, my God, like literally her foot just got in and it's like an aggressive slam. And it was those kinds of things, whether he meant to look like that or not, it's the perception that we have of this. And we're just like, he's not into it. He's a dick. He's annoyed. He isn't really caring. He's opening the door for her because maybe she says you better do it. Maybe it's in his gentlemanly nature. But then with the slamming, just like, so you get people talking. Maybe it's in his gentlemanly nature, but then with the slamming just like so you get people talking. And that's probably also why he doesn't like that everything in

his relationship was scrutinized by people like me. Interesting connection to the show that I've been talking about that's coming out on Hulu, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. This is about the 20 something young Mormon moms that took over TikTok and they were so cute with their long locks and their cute dancing. And then one girl one day said, I'm getting divorced because we've been soft swapping with the rest of the people in our TikTok mom group. And all the other ones were like, what? And it was a big scandal, but it led to a reality show. and they're bearing all and telling all.

And one of the girls is married to this guy, Zach Affleck, who is actually related to Ben and his brother, Casey Affleck. The way I understand from reading this People article is this kid, because he's young. I don't even think he's 30. His dad is first cousins with Ben and Casey. Meaning, this guy, Zach Affleck, his grandmother is a sibling to Ben and Casey Affleck's parent. I don't know which one. I don't know if it's a mom or a dad because somehow this part of the family ended up being Mormon and living in Utah because this kid is a full Mormon. He went to a BYU.

He did the mission. He married this young girl. They have two kids and he's part of this reality show. So you know, it's interesting. Did they ever hang out? Did they ever go to a family thing or was this this weird part of their family that we're like, oh, remember so-and-so? He married that woman and then they became all Mormon. Oh, yeah, we never talked to them. I don't know, but it's interesting that he's now on this hot reality show and these are, in fact, it would be, I guess, considered his

second cousins. Let's talk about Scott Peterson, who along with the Ben Affleck portion of the show, Ben Affleck played the lead in the movie Gone Girl. For my youngins, if you have not seen Gone Girl, that is an excellent Juicy Scoop movie. I thoroughly loved the book. Honestly, if you're looking for a book to read and you don't know anything about it, read the book. It does not completely match what happened in Scott Peterson's life. But it's my understanding it was the inspiration for this woman to write about a fictional story

because of the media attention around Scott Peterson in 2002 of the media attention around Scott Peterson in 2002 when his wife went missing on December 24th. I talked about this before. It's Lacey Peterson and this is her husband Scott. So I'm just going to get to, since I'm trusting that you guys listen to every episode, I told you I was going to listen. I watched the three-part documentary on Netflix. I feel like I could get a PhD or at least an A in a class about Scott Peterson. But there's still things I'm learning, which is why if you're interested in it, it is still intriguing. This was Peacocks, and it just came out on Tuesday. And this, was three parts. This was the first interview that Scott Peterson, who was convicted of killing his pregnant wife, he's been behind bars for 20 years,

and he was on death row, but he was taken off death row a couple of years ago and got in life without parole. And he was taken off that death row because they found his team of lawyers fought by saying that the judge made a mistake in the jury. In questioning the jury, he did something which you're not supposed to do about the death penalty, saying is anyone totally for or totally against the death penalty? He either was supposed to ask that question or not, and so they decided to take him off of death row. So one thing that his sister-in-law, who has really been at the helm of his defense, who is married to his brother, she actually went to law school, just graduated cum laude, I think,

summa cum laude, just a little while ago. I think she went to Southwestern, put herself through law school because she'd spent so many years on this. And it's interesting, she's like, we made sure that someone visited him every week for eight years straight, because that was the only thing

that was keeping him going while he was on death row. Now I know there's someone driving around going, Heather, he did it. I can't believe you're talking about that. I can't believe the LA Innocence Project has taken on this case. I have talked about the fact that there are interesting things about this case

that I always remembered from the first time it was being reported on to the final judgment to when it's popped up over and over and over again. And that's basically what this Peacock three-part series is about. It starts out and it's a little boring the first episode because if you are familiar with the case, it's basically laying out the prosecution's case again. Why they thought he did it. Their story is they think that he either killed her the night before or first thing in the morning in a soft, what they called a soft kill, like a pillow over her face or something. Then he wrapped her up and put her in his truck,

took the truck to his shop where he had computers and stuff for where he sold fertilizer. And he also had like this new fishing boat that's nothing fancy. He then put her in that boat, hooked it up to his truck, drove 90 miles, went into the San Francisco Bay, and then used these homemade concrete anchors, which people do, put them on her limbs and put her out to sea. Then came home, not before

leaving a voicemail message like, hey, sweetie, I am just leaving fishing now, but I will see you in a bit. And I can't get that basket for Papa, but I can't wait to see you for Christmas Eve dinner." He came home and took off his clothes and washed them, took a shower, ate some pizza. And then he called her mother who lived close by. They were supposed to have Christmas Eve with the mother that night and said,

is Lacey there? And when she said no, he goes, well, then she's missing. Called the friends, she starts to panic. They start looking for her. That's where we're at with that. So he has said right from the first night that the cops came, the two detectives, they said, he overheard them saying, we think it's him.

So right from the start, he knew he was a suspect. So one of the lies was he told the mom, oh, I was golfing. And that was the first thing, I was golfing, when in fact he was fishing. So if you listened to my last episode, I predicted what he might say about some of these lies. And most of them were right.

One of the things he said of, why did you say you were golfing when in fact you were fishing? Now, I think this is interesting, because they said that Lacey, his wife, didn't know about the boat. And he bought the boat a few like on December 9th and they so that's why they thought it was premeditated hence why he got the death penalty because

it was a premeditated murder that's what they believe. He said I got the boat and Lacey did know about the boat and we were going to surprise her stepfather with the boat so that because we knew I like fishing he likes fishing we'll take our son you know once he's born and everything, fishing with us. They're also in this one, they said that there was somebody that gave their statement to the detective saying, I saw Lacey at the place where we keep the boat using the bathroom. So then that would go along with the, he's telling the truth now. She did know about the boat, but maybe they were keeping a secret. Maybe when he told Lacey's mom, hey,

you know, I went golfing first, maybe he was still thinking she would show up and he wanted to keep the secret about the fishing. I know people are like, Heather, just hear me out. So I thought, so that's one of the things he said, which was one of the things I predicted. I couldn't be more excited to talk about Popeyes' delicious new boneless wings. If you're like me and you love tender, crispy chicken, you're in for a treat. Popeyes has just introduced their boneless wings and five irresistible flavors. Classic, honey garlic, honey barbecue, garlic parmesan. I like the way you say garlic.

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Yes and it gets messy and we are not afraid to be wrong. So please join us over here at Sibling Rivalry available anywhere you get your podcast. You can listen and subscribe for free. For free honey. Men, they don't find anything. They don't find a struggle. They don't find anything weird in the house that a stranger would come or that he did anything where they were fighting and things broke. So, and they don't have a body. But this becomes a huge media storm. And one of the reasons it became such a big media storm is someone in Scott Peterson's family, a stepmother of I think the sister-in-law,

she used to work in PR, so she was able to send out a press announcement. And that is why this became such a big story. Also, she was attractive. It was Christmas Eve. She was pregnant. And it became like the biggest story. And at that time, it was attractive. It was Christmas Eve. She was pregnant. And it became like the biggest story. And at that time, it was all about tabloids and like all these shows like Larry King and Nancy Grace. And the media really got a lot of hits from it. Just like when, you know, just like six months ago, when every article was about Taylor Swift,. People know if they just put Taylor Swift in an article, they get more clicks. They are told by their boss right about Taylor Swift. So this was the same thing, right about Scott Peterson, right about—people can't get enough of the story. I couldn't get enough of the story. I related. I was

similar in age. I had a small baby boy at the time, Drake. I saw them as a couple that seemed interesting, you know, like that I would be friends with. Like it just seemed like, oh my God, this is crazy. Then of course it comes out that he is having an affair with this woman, Amber Fry. And after a few days of her missing, she calls the police and says, I'm his girlfriend. They go to her, they go, we're going to start recording phone calls. He calls her and he's very loving in the calls. They use all these calls of the transcript in the trial. And they're damaging.

They're like, you're so, so special, Amber. I just know that I just miss you and I feel our arms around you. Now I predicted he's gonna say, I just wanted to keep her happy and I didn't want her to freak out and go to the police because the minute the police knew about her, then it would be about me having an affair and they'd stop looking for Lacey. I wanted the attention to look on Lacey.

I kind of believe that kind of don't. What I do think is, yeah, he wanted to keep her from running to the police. He wanted to keep her happy. I don't believe that he ever, whether you believe he killed his wife or not, I don't think he did it so he could spend the rest of his life with Amber Fry. Maybe he did it so he could have a life of being a single guy, but he was getting away with being single. There were accounts that he was like flirty and appeared as a single man

at these conventions. He probably, in my prediction, I think he had numerous affairs. But whoever these people were that maybe he had a one-night stand with or what, I'm not surprised they didn't come forward. What? What would they gain from coming forward? Oh my God, I slept with this guy. Maybe they were married too.

Whatever. What would they gain from coming forward? Oh my God, I slept with this guy. Maybe they were married too, whatever. I think he was able to cheat and have a side life that nobody ever knew about. But I don't think he was like, I've got to live the rest of my life with a ever fry. Some of the things that he says like, oh, you're so special. It reminded me of the Golden Bachelor. It was just like a fake cheating love bomb thing. And I think today, maybe a jury would see that being a little more of that than, oh my God, he killed for this woman that he barely was dating. He's only dating her since November. So I think now we're more

aware of how guys BS and lie. So anyway, but they definitely people believed that was it. He planned on killing her He bought the boat to dispose of the body. He lied to Amber and said I had a wife But this will be the first Christmas without her because I lost her she passed and so that was a big thing How why would you say that she had died when she hadn't died yet? And so that was a big thing. Why would you say that she had died when she hadn't died yet? Well, if you're gonna look up every, I'm just coming up with everything that he can say

to make it appear like he's innocent. He could say, I said that she died just so I knew come Christmas, I'm not gonna be able to hang out with Amber and her kid. I'm gonna have to be with my wife, my wife's family and my family. And so good excuse is, this to have to be with my wife, my wife's family and my family." So a good excuse is, this is my first holiday without my wife, so I'm not going to be around. I'm going to be with my kid, with my family. But the excuse he did give her was, I'm traveling.

I'm traveling. So then to keep with the lie, he goes on New Year's Eve, he calls her and he has like sound in the, or maybe he has sound in the background. I'm not sure if he like put a sound, but he said, oh, I'm in Paris and there's, you know, we're ahead of you in time and we're seeing, you know, the fireworks of New Year's Eve. So he was keeping the lie going. That was really the thing that got him convicted. Okay. So now let me just get into the things that I believe the police did not pursue

and why I think, I think that they, the case that they put forth was a puzzle that fit together. But I think there were some little pieces that they threw out that then would make you go, well, I'm not 100% convinced. And the whole thing is you have to be without a shadow of a doubt that he did it. And here are some of the interesting things. It was the timeline.

So the timeline was for the prosecution. When he left a little after 10, a neighbor said shortly after that she saw a dog on a leash running around and she put the dog with the attached leash in the side yard of Lacy's house. That's their house. So they believe she was already gone. Then the dog was never walked after that because she was already dead in the boat going to be dumped in the ocean.

But for other people that are still around today, maybe one has passed, but her video, her testimony is on video like at Telling a Reporter. Four different people said they saw a pregnant woman wearing black leggings and a white top walking a big golden retriever. And the time and the route all make sense of where the neighborhood would be, where she would walk, then go end up at the park, and then come back. All four of those people, the police said, there's no guarantee that they really saw her. Now, I think, look, I understand that like people, you know, maybe they don't remember it perfectly, but this wasn't like,

Hey, do you remember what you saw Tuesday 18 months ago? No, they called like right after they saw her face saw that she was missing. And they're like two days ago, on Christmas Eve, I saw this woman. I think I see people walk by my house all the time. I recognize dogs all the time. You know, not only was she pregnant and cute, but she had this really large dog with her. So, and one of the people, it was two of them together, it was a couple that both saw her. So, why would this couple make this up and convince themselves two days later that they saw her? Why? What are they gaining? I mean, this isn't 2024 where people are real thirsty to

like get some TikTok likes. This was just like, hey, I called the police and I told them that I saw this. And then they like, they didn't call me to the stand. They never followed up on it. And for whatever reason, his defense headed by Mark Arrigo, they didn't put those people on the stands either. I don't know why I would have. I really think four people saying that they saw her makes a big difference. Then the next biggest thing is this burglary that happened across the street, which was so bizarre. There definitely was this family that lived right across the street, named the Medinas.

They left on Christmas Eve morning, the 24th, and didn't return until the 27th, and their house was robbed. So then they were reported when they got back that they were robbed, and they start getting calls. I saw three or four men in a van near this house, and I thought it was weird, and it was right across from Lacey Peterson's house. So I think I might have seen the robbery in process or someone coming in there house and I thought it was weird and it was right across from Lacey Peterson's house and you know, so I think I might have seen the robbery in process or someone coming in there and I thought it was strange. There was all of that. And so the defense's thought now is maybe when she was getting ready to take a walk, the dog was on a leash and then

she ran to go pee or something. And then the neighbor goes, oh, McKenzie, the dog, get in the gate. Then she goes outside, gets in and goes for a walk and never asks like, oh, sorry, I left my dog out for a second, whatever. She does the walk where the four people see her. She comes back, puts the dog in the house and at some point sees what's going on across the street and either confronts them or something like that and possibly they take her. The reason that is the main story they're

going with is because they said that after that when they caught the two guys, they immediately confessed to the robbery, which also seems suspect. Like, why would you? Yeah, I did the robbery. Like, don't pry anymore. But they said, oh, it was done on the 27th. And they go, well, it could have been done the 27th because that's when the family came home. And then they go, oh, okay, it was done the 26th. Well, the defense is like, I really doubt that someone would try to rob a house across from basically a crime scene with a million news people and everybody. That's not the time you're going to go rob the house on the 26th. They believe it happened on the 24th, like that one witness said she saw this van. They said the van was brown.

People said they saw this suspicious brown van. They found a van that was orange that was caught on fire and they found the man who said it was my van and I would sometimes let workmen take it and one day it was gone and it never came back. But that is my van and when they looked in the van, it was burned and there was a mattress in it and the owner of the van said, I never had a mattress in it. And on that mattress looks to be like a blood stain that was saved from the burning, which is like very bizarre. And the fire chief or whatever at the time took a portion of that and has it to be DNA tested. He went to the police, the Modesto

police, and they're like, yeah, we already cleared the robbers in the van and, you know, robbers that are into narcotics don't suddenly become murderers. I'm like, yeah, they do. Yeah, they do. Like, what are you talking about? Why would you just not take, why are you acting like, why aren't we, like, we don't want to trust this guy, the husband, at all. But like we'll take the word for it for the people that have been in and out of prison who are drug addicts that are doing a robbery with a couple other people. Like let's, they're cleared. And in talking to the detectives, and I do give them props for participating in this peacock special because the prosecutors didn't want to, I don't blame people for saying I don't want to talk about it. No one wants to think that they possibly did something wrong in an investigation

to put someone in prison that shouldn't be there. But these detectives are like, we did the right job, we got the right man. Anything that we deemed as not part of the evidence was because it was properly cleared or we just didn't think it was evidence. Well, in watching this, I think most people would disagree that this should have been brought into the trial and let the jury decide if they believe these eyewitnesses are not, if they question the timeline or not. But I do understand why someone who has like an exemplatory career as a detective, and this was by far their biggest case in Modesto, would not want this to rear its ugly head, not only because it's

obviously very traumatic for the victim's family, which I'm sure they're like, oh my God, why is this being brought up again? But at the same time, if this guy was just a cheating narcissist, Scott Peterson, who didn't have the right reaction for the media of a wife being missing, does he really deserve to lose his entire life for the... I mean, he's 51 now. If we find out that there is some DNA evidence that clears him, and he still is 51. He still doesn't have a career, a wife, a child. However, I did look, has anybody been corresponding with him? Like both of Menendez brothers have gotten married.

We know love after lockup, people like prisoners. I don't know if he's ever pursued like a pen pal or anything in these last 20 years. If there's been any women that have ever visited him, I couldn't find any evidence of that. But that part, I'm kind of curious just because he was so in the media. He is good looking and women like people behind bars. I mean, it's just an obvious thing. But I mean, look, how many times, you know, there's always been times, there's been times in my own life where I've been proven that

I was treated wrong, like the earrings were fake, okay? You're like, Heather, stop talking about it. But I will talk about it because the people that thought that they were real and that I was an awful person, even when I proved it over and over again, I've never heard from anybody. Nobody's ever retracted what they said. They just wanna forget it because they realized they were wrong and they don't wanna admit that they were wrong.

So now imagine if your job is the stakes of possibly being part of the wheel that puts someone behind bars that maybe didn't deserve it, okay, and didn't do it. Okay, the next piece of evidence that I thought, this I thought was huge. And it's a little trickier to go back and watch it twice. They have video from December 1st, 2002, so 23 days before she went missing, she filmed this watch. Lacey did. That is what she inherited from her grandmother. It was a 14 karat gold watch, a Cordova watch, and it had, I think that's the name of it, and it had diamonds around it. Scott goes,

we even joked it looked like a rapper's watch. It was kind of 80s, so it was her grandmother who had passed. On December 31st, a woman came into the Modesto pawn shop and pawned that watch. And that man was interviewed on the peacock thing. He still owns the pawn shop and he had the watch. Now this is where not everything that this team has done for these years, part of the Innocence Project, is going to be shown in a three-part doc. But this is what they show. Somehow, the cops learned that this watch is at the pawn shop.

I don't know how that happened. I don't know if this pawn shop guy was suspicious and called the cops or if in talking about Lacey and what she had on her body and her jewelry, maybe Scott was like, okay, she always wears her wedding ring. She always wears this gold necklace. And I remember she was wearing the watch that day because she wanted to wear it to Christmas Eve and show, you know, her parents that she was wearing the watch from grandma. I don't know. But the watch is pretty distinct. And I just can't believe that that was not made a bigger deal out of. Why wasn't that tested for DNA? So that's where, and then they marked that the watch came in. They said the cops got it, but they're like, well, we, but nobody knows

where that watch is today. Nobody knows. They don't have it in evidence. Scott's family doesn't have it. Lacey Peterson's family doesn't have it. I just think that is crazy. Like that, that where I'm like, we're well, sure, it could be a similar watch. It could, you know, maybe not be the exact same watch. So that's maybe then why they go forget it. Okay, so now we jump to April. Scott is still a suspect. People are still talking about it, writing about it, and trying to figure out what's going to happen, but he has not been arrested.

A body comes up on the shore in which over the years, I guess, bodies have come up the shore based on the tide. But it's very close to where he told on the day one, I went fishing, this is where I went fishing. He told the detectives that. That is where the bodies come up. And it's her torso and her head, and it's wearing, I guess, the maternity clothes.

That is what she was supposed to be wearing that day. And because it's been four months, it's quite, you know, not in good shape. And then the baby body has an umbilical cord still attached. So we know that the body was separated at one point in the sea, not before. So they find that, but everyone's assuming it's her, but they have to check the DNA. He's in San Diego with his family and going to golf and with his brother and dad at Torrey Pines.

And he claims he thought cars were following him. It was the police on Mark Kars, but he thought it was media, paparazzi, whatever. They pull in and they arrest him, and he now has dyed blonde hair and a goatee. And they think, oh, you're so close, you're an hour from the border, you must be trying to leave and live in Mexico. In his car, he does have $15,000 in cash. He has some clothes, his brother's ID. So

the documentarian of the Peacock asked him about that. And he said, well, first of all, I think he of course changed his appearance because he can't walk around anywhere with people not knowing who he was and being mean to him and rude to him and whatever. So he changed his appearance. He said he had his brother's ID because he can play on golf courses for cheaper if he lives in the county. And then the $15,000 was he sold his car to his brother and the brother gave him $15,000 and he just hadn't put it in a bank yet. I don't totally believe that. I think he had his life set up in case.

He knows at this point he's a huge suspect. But also even if he wasn't arrested, maybe he was like, I'll just go live in Mexico for a while and you guys can visit me and at least people won't recognize me there until this all dies down because who knows if she will ever be found but I'm always going to be enemy number one so maybe I'll just have my stuff together in case I want to go do that. Not necessarily escaping an arrest. That's what I would have said but that's not what he said. But anyway, he gets arrested and his reaction has always been not that emotional. They did mark that when they told him, yes, it's your

wife and child, he did shed a tear. As they're driving back, which is a few hours, they say we need to get some food and they go to an In-N-Out and they said, you know, he just nonchalantly goes, okay, I'll have a double-double with cheese and a vanilla shake. I mean, your wife and son, you know, okay, but like, I don't know, it is In-N-Out. I mean, I'm not trying to be funny, but like, I don't think that it, I just think scrutinizing how everybody acts in every minute. He had a cocky ass attitude and walk. He looked cocky, much like Ben Affleck. Why Ben Affleck was the perfect person to play him. They kind of look alike.

And it's kind of this, this just like, women sometimes get accused of having a bitchy resting face. There should be a name for like a dude that just looks like a cocky dick, like he just has a dick face. And that's what he did, just had a dick face. He just looked like he didn't care. He says, I wasn't showing emotion because my emotion was anger towards the media and being put on trial and for people to think that I did this.

So therefore, I didn't want to show any emotion because I'm afraid the anger emotion would show. So they get Mark Garagos, who's coincidentally the attorney that's heading up the reality reckoning with Bethany Franker, which I'll get into in a minute. And Brandi, there's an update on that. But he, you know, he became like a rock star and he had this team against him. But they decide not to put him on the stand because they know he just comes off awful. He just comes off really not caring, not remorseful. The defense is like, they don't have anything. They have no strong case. It's all circumstantial.

So therefore, we think we're okay with this. We think where you're going to win and put you on the stand may hurt you more. So we're not going to." And of course they go and they deliberate and they come back and they say he's guilty and they give him the death penalty. And there was this one interesting thing with this one juror that was really famous from that time. She had pink hair and she just kind of tatted up. And she's like, I have four kids and you know, this is justice for little man. She'd always like refer to Connor the baby as that.

And they tried to make the fact that that was an issue with her because when she filled out her jury form, they said, have you ever been a victim of a crime? And she said, no. And then they found out many years later that she had a restraining order against a former boyfriend. But I, as someone who's had restraining orders, I would probably answer, no, I've not been a victim of a crime.

If someone asked me off the bat, I wouldn't necessarily consider that. I would think in my head like robbery, someone attacking me, touching me, whatever. So she was actually featured on this as well. It is absolutely fascinating. And it, you know. And of course, there is a lot that makes sense of why you would think he did it. A couple inside information things that I have is that at a friend that lived in Modesto

at this time, we actually had lost touch. And then we got back into touch in 2008. And the first thing I asked was, oh my God, I wish I had your number during the Scott Peterson trial. I need to talk to you about it. And this she's like, oh, okay. She's like, first of all, everyone thinks he did it. There's no way he didn't do it, Heather. He, you know, he made four, he made five anchors and only one was left. He says, no, I only, only had one. There's no evidence that he made four other. It was just like the whatever the concrete it looked like there was like four little concrete messes. But it was that

evidence I didn't think that was that strong. And he still had his one anchor when he returned. So from the boat. But she was saying things like that. But she said, but I do. I didn't see them at my country club. She was part of their country club. And she would call, she and her husband at the time would refer to them as like the fighting couple. And she said she witnessed them having some arguments and having, seeing Lacey kind of be like, like a little flamboyant and feisty in the argument. I think that goes with the idea of maybe she, in her badass way, in her naive badass way, did she approach the people like, hey, what are you doing? I know my neighbors are away, so what are you doing in front of their house?

Maybe she did approach those robbers. The other part of that van story is there was another witness that said later that same day he saw with his wife a woman get out of a van to go pee in like a very sketchy area and it looked like she was there against her will. And he said it was like a brown or orange van or something. And when he told the police that, they were like, you know, so crazy. So did she disrupt this? Did they take her? Maybe they didn't plan on killing her. Maybe something happened.

It was all over the news, right in a news conference. It was all over every paper paper what Scott did that day. They would do full timelines of everything, all the evidence that was there in the inquirers everywhere. Their idea is that these people either purposely or not purposely killed her and then disposed of her body in the same part of the water that he claimed he did. I would also say he didn't have to say where he sailed to. He could have said, I went to this marina and I went this way.

If I dumped the body here, why wouldn't I when I tell the detective that day? And then I got into the marina and I went to the east or whatever instead of to the west or whatever it was. He said exactly where he went and that is where those bodies were found. So that is where all the things are being questioned. But even the journalists that really took this on in the last five years go and he's part of the documentary just being like, God, there are all these things that were just not looked into, not submitted into evidence, not brought up by the defense at the time. He's like, God, I'll get in horrible fights with people when I bring up any kind of idea

that Scott Peterson could be innocent. People will just go crazy. And you know, and I feel the same way. I might get a lot of hell just for even watching his side of it. But I think it's still fascinating for all those reasons when it comes to the media and how this story made certain cable media stars like a Nancy Grace or whatever. And I feel like now there are TikTok you know, TikTok and YouTube people that become stars because they latch on a story too. And they're the ones that cover it sometimes even more than a television station. So I can see why some it's like a little cottage

industry sometimes if a case is just so really capture so many people for so many reasons. And so just all fascinating. Also, Bo Deedle, they showed a quick clip of like different talking heads on Larry King about this case and Bo Deedle of Real Housewives in New Jersey showed up. And also they did a line where one of the detectives said is like, it's very unlikely. It's about as likely as if Jennifer Lopez called me up and said she'd want to go on a date with me after she breaks up with Ben Affleck. And they put that in and they did it where,

like we didn't see his face say it. And I think they just threw it in like post, like he said it somewhere else. And then they were like, oh my God, now that they're getting divorced, let's put this in the peacock thing. Just little weird like TV producer things that I catch on. So there you go. varied as proper bidet usage, celebrity impression tutorials, and a television show I recently watched that I'll base my entire personality on for six weeks.

As well as creative pest control, tasty limeade recipes, and fun sex act trend. We also chat about boobs and movies and wigs and stuff, which is obviously the public service part of the podcast. So get ready for screaming, cackling, and some occasional educational moments as two massively unqualified queens talk about what it's like to be the epitome of fabulous. Go subscribe to The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie Mattel and Katya Zomolechkova

on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you're listening right now. This story is about Wade Wilson. This is insane. And Shannon and I, my sister, a criminal defense attorney, did a very juicy, juicy, juicy crime on it. And that is a part of my Patreon, which you go to heathermictonland.net, click on Patreon, and that's part of the juicy crimes level. But this guy is very good looking. but after he got arrested for killing two women, he put all these weird tattoos on his face while he was in prison. And I went down a TikTok haul of all the people that are calling and all the phone conversations that have been recorded with him and all the people that put money on his books and how

he flirts with so many people. And I just find that so fascinating how many people will believe this guy and how charming he is on the phone. And he's like looking at, I think, death too. It's just Wade Wilson. That's another one. Okay. Getting into some fun stuff before we end the show. Bravo Snarkside said that Brandi Glanville has just, and I went to her Instagram and it wasn't there, so I don't know where she released this. I don't know if she's since taken it down. Released the video of Andy Cohen and Kate Chastain

jokingly asking if she wants to join their threesome. So I watched it and all the comments, including mine, are this is so innocent and so joking and silly and funny. They seem a little buzzed, but not overly. They basically are saying like, Brandi, we are going to F tonight, they beep it out. And we were talking about you, so technically it's a threesome. It's a threesome because we were talking about you, so technically it's a threesome.

It's a threesome because we're thinking about you, girl. That's it. I almost think this hurts her case. I really do. But apparently her whole thing of wanting to go after Bravo is like, I worked for Bravo for 13 years. I had to do whatever Andy said. We weren't close. We weren't friends. And I felt like if I Andy said. We weren't close, we weren't friends, and I felt like if I ever said that's disgusting or something that I wouldn't be able to work again. It's a stretch. I've talked about why this reality reckoning has not worked, and I just think it's because it's one of those things that who's up in arms about it? The fans don't want anything to change with their Bravo shows. And if for some, for I think people miss Brandi,

but the other people that are part of it, Ebony, Leah from New York, I just don't think people miss those people. So they're kind of like, who cares? And I think that it's just such a, it's such a fine line because it is reality TV. You're playing yourself. You are drinking on camera. You're being silly. You're grabbing your co-star's boobs. I mean, the whole thing of like sexual harassment and drinking and joking, it can't all be,

it's not a black and white thing. There's one way of appropriate behavior, you know, in corporate offices at a medical facility. And then there's we're on a reality show getting drunk on a girls trip and I'm grabbing someone's boob and laughing about it and giving great TV of being silly after 12 drinks. So I think that's the challenge. So someone put in Juicy Scoop Obsessed, whatever happened to the Bethany reality reckoning? And this person wrote, she moved on from trying to save Raquel Rachel and is now selling chicken

salad. And I have not talked about the chicken salad thing, but it is really funny. And in a nutshell, Bethany Frankel, after doing the reality reckoning, which went nowhere, then she tried to save Rachel Harker-Rockel from Vanderpump rules, which again, nobody sees her as a victim. Then she continued with, she kind of put makeup to the side and then got very into how delicious, really expensive chicken salad is in the Hamptons, but it's worth every penny. And she ate it and she talked to the camera and everybody went there

and they really did like the chicken salad. A lot of people attempt to make it themselves. And then she went and did this video where this is where comedy and people that aren't that funny don't always land it. And why people watching it at home that aren't that funny don't always land it. And why people watching at home that aren't that funny don't always get it. I believe, now that I've researched the Bethany Frankel chicken video that I'm going to tell you about, I believe she was trying to be funny.

I think that she was, so basically what she does is she films herself going to the Round Swamp Farm and she's like, these people are ignoring me. I've moved thousands and thousands of product for them. Like they'd be nowhere without me and they're just ignoring me and I'm like about to cry and I've had a chicken suit and I'm so upset and everything. And when I first saw it, I really did think that possibly she was being real because she does kind of act like that and she's a little unhinged.

But now that I've researched it a little bit more, I think she was trying, she was being sarcastic and she was trying to do a funny video and it's kind of brilliant marketing because it got us talking about her again. So good for her. Anyway, the chicken salad is like you put the chicken basically in a blender and you use it like a spread. That's the big scoop on the chicken salad. No pun intended, a scoop of chicken salad.

Caller Daddy is a huge podcast. The star of it is Alex Cooper. She started it with Sofia F. Then they split up and Sofia Frankel has her own show and she does great. But Alex Cooper has really taken off. She got a $60 million deal from Spotify two years ago and now she has a $125 million deal for I don't know how many years, at least two or three with Sirius. And I mean, it's astronomical. They also paid SmartList a huge amount of money. The three guys, Sean Hayes and Will Arnett and Justin Bateman, their podcast, SmartList, also got, I don't know,

$100 million or something from Sirius. So, just kind of interesting. I think I talked to you guys about this before, but I keep getting these emails from different podcast companies saying that they want me to be a guest on it and they'll pay me anywhere from $2,000 to $3,500. I just got one for SmartList. We'd love to have Heather McDowell on SmartList. We'll pay her $3,500. It's the same scam. They put at the bottom of the email, they give the address of universal and these fake, you know, it looks, it looks official. And now I know just to ignore it, but I've gotten it also from so many different people from Candace, Candace Cameron. I think I got one from Joe Rogan. I got one from this guy, Lewis, somebody. I don't know why they keep thinking that I'm that I take me off your list. I'm not I realize no one's paying

anybody $3,500 to be on a podcast. So to anybody that's getting those, do not let this person in to don't fuck with them. Don't, somehow they get into your Facebook and they screw you over somehow. I don't know, thank God I caught on before, but I keep getting emails probably about two a month offering me money to be on a Facebook live event and be on these big, huge podcasts. I would like to be on Smartless. I don't know why I'm not on Smartless.

I don't know why I haven't been on Caller Daddy. I love you all. You don't have to pay me $1 of your $100 million. I would just like to do it. Okay? So, there you go. This is disturbing. People sent it to me.

They know how I feel about it. Whew. Travis Kelce is in talks to star in an action comedy, Loose Cannons, a movie. He's going to be in a full blown action comedy movie starring the lead. According to the Hollywood Reporter, this is in talks. There's nothing we can do about it, you guys. The toothpaste is out of the tube.

The train has left the station. It's only a matter of time before I think that we hear that these two are no longer together. That's my prediction. I don't know. I think it's just not what it was six months ago. I just don't feel the same way about this relationship. I just don't.

And to all the professional comedic actors, you just lost a role. This was super disturbing. This was in a high school near Fresno. This is from the New York Post. It's a pep rally. This was the weirdest video, you guys. It's a pep rally. This principal has been suspended and they're looking into this, this principal. He's like kind of an overweight 50-something-year-old dude. And he's on like a rolling office chair in the middle of the pep rally with all the high school kids. And the mascot who's dressed in whatever their mascot is, is basically giving the principal

a lap dance. And then the principal leans back and shoots off like this, like one of those like things. So it looks like he's ejaculating. Okay? And then he gets out of the chair and pushes the mascot guy on the chair. And then he simulates giving him a lap dance, almost kind of going down on him. And then someone screams, what happens at this high school stays in this high school like a Vegas thing.

And people are cheering. A couple parents that were there were like, what the fuck is this? And the video went viral and now the guy is suspended. I just cannot, like what is going on people? I have big thoughts about high school and teachers and my own experience and kind of a new theory about it. And as we go back to high school and college this week, just listen to my Patreon. Sorry, this is a double-push Patreon day, but it is.

Patreon is my HeatherMcDonald.net. Just get ready because I have a very juicy story that is very similar to a crazy pep rally thing that happened and so much more. Okay. A couple more things about Real Housewives of Ocea that have come to my attention. I talked about this on Tuesday. But one of the things that somebody wrote was why was Heather DeBrow crying saying, these cheating rumors hurt my family? To remind you guys, Heather Dubrow, there was some cheating rumors that came out that had kind of been floating around for years.

I don't believe them. It's like somebody at, I don't know, somebody's office, whatever, something with Terry. There's no proof to it, there's nothing. And there was a little burst of that rumor going around. And then after that, they went to Disneyland together, and then these photos came out of them being very loving. And people in the cast think that she actually hired

paparazzi to meet her at Disneyland and get these stories, get these photos out, to make people not question how in love they are. So she's crying to Gina being like, you know, this whole thing hurt my family. This hurt my kids. People were calling. My children were being called by their friends asking if this was in fact true. I'm sorry. I call bullshit. I know how kids are and I don't believe it. I'm sorry now you could come after me and say it is true. There's no way to know. Do I believe that if you're upset and there's rumors and stuff and shit that isn't true online, that energy and those conversations in your home stresses the whole family out 100%. 100% it affects you, it affects your spouse, it

affects your kids. I've been there. It can affect and hurt the family because the vibe is not good. Just like if your husband was a doctor and he's being sued for malpractice, like anything about your business and if you're a reality star, your business is yourself. So I can see it. But I just don't believe that 20-something and Gen Zs are like on some, you know, Bravo Boo website or whatever, whatever it is, and reading these rumors that were not really that publicized from what I remember. And this is basically my career. I do not think that they are calling their friend in college and being like, hey, I just want to check on you. Are your parents getting divorced? I just don't believe it. I call BS. So Gina wore this outfit that was not well received. It was a tight silver dress. I think

it would have looked cute standing up. Some things just don't look good when you're sitting down. So like if she was standing up, walking into a bar, I think she would have looked banging. But sitting down, it wasn't that flattering. And then her hair, it was like a weird style. What I love about Gina is that she then did a green screen video of it going, guys, I heard you, it's not my favorite look. I plan on doing better. I see it, it wasn't great. I love that she just took it head on and was like, yeah, some are a miss. Like, let's laugh at ourselves.

I thought this was a cute look. I liked the silver with the gold. I thought the hair was banging. And guess what? I, you know, some people make mistakes. So I liked that. Also in the episode, they joke that this one girl, Jen, should do OnlyFans.

And again, what I'm saying, when I say some people are just getting a little tired of the Housewives, it's because we just kind of repeat the same storylines. There was a time where everybody took a stripper pole class. Then there was a time when everybody went and swirled around in those sheets. Then there was a time when everybody went and swirled around in those sheets. Then there was a time everyone went to goat yoga. Then there was a time that people, you know, the psychic thing I hate.

I hate the psychic stuff when they have like a psychic read to still like make people nervous. However, the one good psychic one was when they went to Morocco and the psychic said, I see Ramona's husband cheating on her. There was a blonde woman. She's like, that must be, she's like, you know what? I think that's Avery. I think that's Avery that they see in those tea leaves or whatever. That was the only time anybody's psychic thing.

But no, there was also a time when they said Rachel Raquel of Vanderpump needs to go on OnlyFans or just do foot videos so that she can pay for a new nose job. And the girls get together and they do that. Well, they did this here. They said, Jen, who just got evicted from her home, she needs to do OnlyFans and what sells is foot stuff. And so it just felt very planned.

Thank God they cut half of the pie out so they could eat it. And then they shoved her foot in it and then Tamara sucked her toe. I'm sure they cleaned her foot before. It just felt so pushed and fake and not really funny. And I just feel like we've seen these bits before. We've seen Tamara call people a shit show. It used to be Shannon. Now it's Alexis. It's just like, I don't know. Think that's why people are getting bored of it. Well, thank you so much. Remember you go to heathermcdowelland.net to join the Patreons.

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