Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Kardashian Wedding, Dave Chappelle's Attacker with Dax and Adam

Episode Date: May 24, 2022

Kravis got married in Italy! The Virgin Mary played a large part. Dolce and Gabbana dressed the bride and her family. Amber Heard’s team is hoping to show the jury that Johnny Depp was a different ...person when he was intoxicated, and it was that behavior on set which hurt his career. RHOBH social media drama is what keeps us talking. Dave Chappelle’s attacker is now saying Dave’s jokes triggered him to attack the comedian. Ramona will never change. Dax Holt and Adam Glyn from 'Hollywood Raw' about their favorite guests and who surprised them the most. What crazy things did they do as paparazzi? And Bonus, Juicy Scoop Hollywood History moments.  Subscribe on Apple Podcasts to get exclusive Extra Juicy episodes every Friday and get all episodes of Juicy Scoop, ad-free Or get access to Extra Juicy on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:24 Woo-hoo! and a McDonald. Juicy scoop. Hello, and welcome to Juicy scoop. So much juicy stuff going on. Let's get into it. Well, Kravis finally got married for the third time. The first one was in Vegas. That wasn't a real wedding.
Starting point is 00:00:44 The second one was in Santa Barbara. That was a real wedding. The second one was in Santa Barbara. That was a real wedding. And so they were already married. And then they had the big Italian wedding. And throughout the weekend, we got to see the family and all their outfits. It was sponsored by Dolce and Gabana. Everybody wore everything Dolce. And that that includes included the first night when they went on like a yacht trip and then the rehearsal dinner I think or like you know party like that and that's when she was wearing this the black dress that was a short black dress with the veil I don't know if I have that one. And then for the actual wedding
Starting point is 00:01:21 she wore the exact same type of short corset like lingerie, white, like a virgin type of dress with a long, beautiful veil, and the theme was like the Virgin Mary. So she had a big Virgin Mary veil on, and page six style is saying Courtney Kardashian's wedding veil had a nod to Travis Barker's head tattoo. I did not realize that one of his tattoos was that of the Virgin Mary holding the baby. So the altar, too, normally a Catholic altar has a crucifix. This was outside. It was not at a church in a beautiful setting, but all very Catholic. And instead of having a crucifix, it was a statue of Mary holding baby Jesus. So, I guess he was Catholic. I know that Courtney went to Mary
Starting point is 00:02:14 Mount, which is an all-girl Catholic high school, but it's just interesting that when then, when it comes to the wedding, they're like, let's just go full-old school Italian, Dolce and Gabata, and like really get into the Catholic thing all the all of them were wearing big cross necklaces. So I haven't. So yeah, here's his head tattoo which is Mary, very nice. Courtney went on the yacht in these high, high spiky boots which is not yachting shoes, but you know she was posting all her good looks. Kim is blonde still from wearing Maryland's dress and she was wearing the black and which she was with north and north was wearing like corsets over her clothes rain. However, really killed it. That's Courtney's younger son.
Starting point is 00:03:00 He looked so cute. For a long time, he had a man bun, he has cut his hair. He wore little like little boy shorts, stress shorts with a tux jacket and tie. He looked so cute. I have not seen any photos of Mason. Some people were concerned of Mason attended. We have not seen photos. Chris was there looking beautiful in like a bluschy pink outfit at the wedding. Chloe wore this big like Dolce, like, I guess it's also a cheeky bonnet, like hat thing. And I guess Beyonce had worn something similar.
Starting point is 00:03:38 I don't know. Also, anyway, a lot of criticism was about the fact that Courtney wore this really short dress that was basically a bodysuit with like lace over it. So you could kind of see like the whole part of her thigh as well as it being a super small mini. I think you know what?
Starting point is 00:03:54 I think she chose this wedding look because that is what Travis is into. They're super sexual together. He's always grabbing her. He was like that with Shanna Mokler too. I think that's his lovely witch. I think he's very affectionate. I saw a TikTok of him and Shana Mokler getting their marriage license on Meet the Barkers and I know me to be disrespectful in bringing up his former love but we also have a million hours of footage of Courtney with Scott Disick. So it's like they're both in the reality show world.
Starting point is 00:04:26 You put everything and they're gonna come back. And so people were like, wow, he acts just the way he did with Shana as he did with Courtney. But some people when they're in relationships, have a certain love language and his is super hands-on, pda, affectionate. She seems to really like it. And I think because he's so sexual with her,
Starting point is 00:04:44 I think that he was like, I love your legs legs I love your body I want to see that and I think she want to go completely different than what Kim has done for her other weddings and what Chloe did for her wedding with Lamar and she just wanted to make it her own and I like the mini 60s look. It was pretty skimpy but who cares I mean I mean, I thought it was cool. And I loved the long veil. I loved all the Catholic stuff. Oh, here is the black dress that she wore like the night before with a black and blue veil. And it was a super cute outfit for like Halloween. Like if you were going like sexy, sexy, goth, bride Halloween, this would be like one of those hot outfits where you're like, I can dress like a slut. It's Halloween. This would be like one of those hot outfits where you're like, I can dress like a slut. It's Halloween, but this is what she wore for her rehearsal dinner and then
Starting point is 00:05:28 Page 6 reminded us that Kim wore a very similar dress with again The I mean this is like Mary is like basically killing it right now like she is so in right now virgin Mary And so the virgin Mary again emblem on the middle of the so that was just a very in-look. Kylie was there with Stormy and she looked really pretty. So they all wore like dolce, they wore like vintage jolti dolce dresses throughout the weekend. And yeah people people didn't, people, it got some criticism. A lot of people were just like I'm happy for you. Look beautiful. I do think this is a beautiful location to get married. I of course had to get married in the church because that's otherwise it didn't count,
Starting point is 00:06:12 I guess, with God, according to my parents. And it was an hour and a half long and I still want to apologize for the people that had to sit through that hour and a half mouse. Okay. Let's see. Oh, so Penelope was there, her daughter, and she looked really pretty. So I guess she was like a flower girl, bridesmaid, and so was his daughter Alabama. And then this photo came up. This is from my family, Jeannie.
Starting point is 00:06:36 And it was Courtney, her high school photo, which basically, she looks exactly the same, because at 43, she has a very youthful face and she hasn't had any work done or very little. So she looks like the same because at 43, she has a very youthful face and she hasn't had any work done or very little so she looks like the same. And then Travis that just looks like it's like your average little skinny white kid with like long hair and it's just kind of interesting like all these years later it's like a million tattoos shaved head Madonna on the back or you know the real Madonna that's not Madonna Madonna Madonna like Virgin Mary Madonna on the back, you know, the real Madonna, that's not Madonna, Madonna. Madonna like Virgin Mary Madonna on the back of his head and you know, there was
Starting point is 00:07:10 just a time when they were just two dorks in the 90s, early 90s or yeah, that would have been interesting. They would have graduated in the 90s, probably late 80s. Speaking of which Joe, Joe, Joe, Jolie Fletcher, they did finally get married. I kind of feel bitchy because I saw another video and I'm like, why don't you guys get married? But I guess I'd have been postponed for two years. They got married this weekend too. And her wedding dress and everything was very traditional
Starting point is 00:07:36 and actually really gorgeous. Okay, now let me just update you on the trial, the Amber, Johnny versus Amber trial. I'm reading all your comments by the trial. The Amber, Johnny versus Amber trial. I'm reading all your comments by the way, okay? And some people are so upset that I'm not 100% team Johnny. And they're like, you don't realize that Amber has been caught in this and this lie. I just want to say, I have not watched every second of the trial. I've watched a lot of it. I've read a lot about it. I'm very aware of it. I also
Starting point is 00:08:09 am very well versed in defamation lawsuits which that is what this is. It's not who's telling the truth and if there's gonna be a mistrial There's not gonna be a mistrial for a civil defamation lawsuit. We're going to get through it. And the jury, which I didn't realize, it's, I guess it's only seven people when it's a civil case, but they will decide who they believe is in the right. And if anybody deserves any money, he's suing for 50. She's countersuing for 100 million. So this is what I think in general.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I told you what I think, I think that they will come to the conclusion that neither really gets anything. Maybe they'll side with Johnny, but he will only get a little bit of money. That is my prediction, that's what I'm sticking with. I don't think it's going to be this big win fall and we all believe that Amber's lied about everything. I do believe that she's lied about some and we all believe that Amber's lied about everything. I do believe that she's lied about some things and I think that he's lied about some things. Or I think that being that he was a drug addict, alcoholic using all different kinds of drugs,
Starting point is 00:09:15 which he's admitted to for the last 30, 40 years, I don't know how well you can remember everything. I remember reading memoirs about people that were like full on drug addicts and I was reading this thing and it's like and then after a four day heroin bitch I did this, this and this and I'm like how do you remember what you did after a four day heroin binge? I'm just saying, you know, he's very likable and it's crazy. This one woman was in the courthouse today. The cameras weren't there so they didn't get it, but there was like a little lull in the cameras were down and she stood up with her baby. She had a baby in the courtroom. She'd been waiting there since 1 a.m. with her baby to get her little wristband to be in the courtroom.
Starting point is 00:09:56 And she yelled, I love you, Johnny. And he's like, she's like, this is this baby's yours. And they're like, okay, you're out of here. And later on, she's like, oh my husband, I thought it'd be funny. If I waited here all night, got in the courtroom and then said that he's the baby daddy. So there's some hardcore fans of Johnny Depp. And I get it. And some of you might be watching and listening to this
Starting point is 00:10:18 and like annoyed that I'm not anything, but 100% Johnny Depp is the greatest person that ever walked the earth. But I like really seeing both sides. That's why we have this system. That's why her people are talking as well. But yes, as she said a lot of things, as she said things where she's answering questions where they're like, um, and then what did Johnny do? Um, and then she's like, well, I, I would grab. I mean, and she wouldn't even say I mean.
Starting point is 00:10:47 She would like start telling the story about his abuse, but using the word I, because we've listened to the audio. We know that she has verbally abused him, and we know that she has physically hit him. She says that. So we know that that's the case. Is it Jury and I sit back there after four or five weeks whatever it's been and been like,
Starting point is 00:11:08 look, this was an awful couple that hit each other and verbally abused each other. And was she hitting him back? Was she finally standing up for herself? Was he, just isn't an awful to ever be? I think most people have dealt with an addict of some sort in their life or an alcoholic or someone that's drank too much that I would all been there and it's not fun being the spouse to that but this is what's come
Starting point is 00:11:36 since I've spoken last Alan Barkin who was his girlfriend she said she corrected herself she's like it wasn't a romantic relationship. It was a sexual relationship. They were in fear and loathing in Las Vegas together and she's 10 years his senior. This is them Ellen and Johnny in the 90s. They dated for a few months in the 90s. She did a testimony back in November of 2019. A deposition which they shared. And she said that he was always he seemed like he was frequently drunk or high or how to join or something he did get
Starting point is 00:12:12 angry about something he was either fighting with an assistant or someone and he threw a wine bottle towards her I don't know if it he meant to hit her but he did throw wine bottle he threw a wine bottle that's the it was red wine. You know, if someone was going to say, you know, on Heather had a shardonnay, you'd be like, that tracks. If you're like, and then Heather had a gin and tonic. He'd be like, I've never heard of mentioned gin before. Well, he always just drinking what red wine. He has thrown wine bottles. Lots of people have said that he's thrown wine bottles will third, you know, in the 90s with Ellen Barker and Barker and he threw them then too. She also said that he was very jealous. He was always like, where are you going?
Starting point is 00:12:53 What are you doing? Who are you with? And she had a scratch on her back and he was convinced that scratch came from Wild Sex with somebody else. So he accused her of cheating. These are all things that track with what Amber has told, what Amber's friends have told about her relationship with Johnny, just saying. Okay, so he's, and then Johnny's agent also was interviewed. This woman was his agent for 30 years, and she said he was frequently laid on set, late for like hours.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Yes, he'd be lovely to the crew and the crew all liked him, but when the crew had to wait for five hours for him to be on set, when his call time was five hours previous, then they didn't love him so much. People in Hollywood talk, and he was getting a reputation that he was difficult to work with. He couldn't remember his lines. Oftentimes when people, a psychiatrist spoke on this today,
Starting point is 00:13:44 people with that are using a lot, the next day their memory isn't as sharp. I mean, I know that sometimes I feel a little hungover. I'm not as quick. So certainly someone who's in their 50s and have used for that much, they're not going to be as quick as he is right now. He's probably been sober this whole trial.
Starting point is 00:14:03 And I mean, I don't know you guys probably know how long he's been sober, but I'm assuming, you know, this is him at his best, what we've seen. So she said they, you know, already, he was getting a bad reputation, and he had to do the earpiece because it couldn't remember the lines. And she said, you're really hurting
Starting point is 00:14:27 yourself in acting like this He then fired her and that was it So I saw the comments and people were like, oh, maybe she's now Speaking on behalf of the defense because he fired her well 30 years in the business. She knows She knows what she was up against in trying to get him jobs And she tried to warn him with his behavior. He was older, he was maybe always becoming difficult to ensure he couldn't remember his lines. As people get older, men, especially women, but men, their parts aren't as abundant. Now Amber also had an entertainment consultant that also went on the stand and this woman, I don't really know what that means, so I read it I didn't watch the testimony but she said that that they felt the what she
Starting point is 00:15:11 was made aware of is that the character Jack Sparrow had run its course. So there's setting the stage so that the jury goes back and says this article that Amber wrote in which she did not name Johnny De debt but we but it was pretty clear that people could figure out that she was saying i'm a victim of domestic violence of this relationship they figured out the years but they're saying that is not what caused his career to go down therefore we do not think
Starting point is 00:15:43 that um... she should have to pay him money for that or we do not think that she should have to pay him money for that. Or we do believe that this is what caused it. So obviously, her people are trying to make the jury believe that there's other reasons why these parts dried up for him. Also coming soon is going to be Kate Moss. Remember she brought up Kate Moss, Amber did in talking about saying, oh, I heard that there was something where he pushed Kate Moss down the stairs.
Starting point is 00:16:12 So Kate Moss is going to come and his people are very excited about that because they, even though they trash some hotel rooms together and stuff, that they have a great relationship in that so therefore she most likely will speak very highly of him and crush that story that Amber was trying to get out there when she was on the stand that he might have been abusive to Kate Moss. So she's coming on also a Warner Brothers executive is going to take the stand and he is going to be say that Aquaman in which she's in, he's probably going to say, I read this, that he is soon that he'll say, no, you know, what we've heard about Amber and this whole big mess did not affect Hollywood in hiring her or Aquaman executives
Starting point is 00:17:01 in hiring her and we still think she's great. Well, of course they're gonna say that because if they don't, it makes them look bad. That's not fair that someone's personal life could keep them from getting a job. So it's just gonna be a lot for the jury to really say, was this defamation, did she have a right to say it? And if it was defamation, did it really affect his career for $50 million?
Starting point is 00:17:26 That is what it's hand, it's not. Who, how he really cut his finger? That's being talked about again. He said she threw a bottle out of him, it cut his finger like a guillotine. Then he went to protect her and said, I cut it myself. They spoke to the doctor, the doctor was on the stand,
Starting point is 00:17:43 he said, he came to me to fix his hand and he said, he got caught in the door jam, which is what he believes made the most sense of those three scenarios. He said, a door jam, this is what it looks like when it's in a door jam, but I can't say for sure how he got this. When he told me it, I believed it. I mean, the hand injury is the biggest because that's the only real physical abuse that he can say happened at her hands in which I was hurt. Now we know that she hit him because she said that, but she's presenting all this stuff of bruises and things which people don't know if they're those exact days or the next
Starting point is 00:18:23 day and all of that we've gone through before has been definitely some holes and don't really add up. But does the jury believe that he was a victim of her, that he is a domestic violence victim? Or do they just think they both hit each other, they both said shit about each other and therefore because they're both hitting each other, they're both victims of domestic violence, and they're both perpetrators, and they're both the domestic violence attackers or whatever you would call it.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Like they're both, they're both victims, and they are both guilty of it themselves. That's what I think. I think they're both guilty of both. People are gonna get so mad at me, the pirates are gonna come after me. I'm just saying, like, just imagine if you've been there for six weeks and you have to make this decision.
Starting point is 00:19:09 It's about the defamation, not which act to you like more or not. Oh, Courtney Love also said, oh, Johnny Depp is the greatest in 1995. I OD, somewhere any helped me. I don't really think that's the greatest story to get out there. You know, like another person who frequently use drugs and alcohol happen to be hanging out with Courtney Love. And he saved Courtney Love and therefore he's a sweetheart. I mean, I hope he would.
Starting point is 00:19:36 If you saw someone OD, I mean, you're just going to step over them. I mean, especially if you know them. Anyway, so there we go with all of that. Oh, update on the Dave Chappelle attacker. Couple things. They realized that in December, he attacked his roommate with a knife and stabbed him. So, they didn't know who did this, but once they arrested him for the Dave Chappelle thing, they realized, oh, this is the guy we are looking for that stabbed this guy in like a transitional living house. So he's also up for attempt and murder. But now his
Starting point is 00:20:18 defense is completely different what he said before. After he jumped up on stage and attacked Dave Chappelle with a fake gun and knife, Dave Chappelle said he spoke to him a bit and he said, my grandmother is so upset that her neighborhood in Brooklyn is being gentrified. That's why I'm here attacking you to bring eyes to this. And he's like, well, I don't know what you want me to do about that, you know good luck he gets arrested right that was his defense that it was that
Starting point is 00:20:49 now he's saying so now this will be his defense that he was triggered by davis she pels lgptq jokes and jokes about you know and stories about his uh... interactions with a trans woman and so he said i was triggered by that. I was also triggered by, because I'm bisexual. And I'm also triggered about his material about homelessness, because I was homeless at one time, and I have a five-year-old son.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And also, there was his opening, had a joke about a pedophile, and I was also a victim of pedophilia. So it was all those jokes combined that then triggered me to make me jump on stage and use this fake gun with a knife on the end of it. OK, so you're a homeless person, but you manage to get a ticket, like a really good ticket at this event that is not was not free and
Starting point is 00:21:49 you didn't plan it because you know what kind of jokes he was going to say but you just in case he said jokes that trigger you you had a gun with a a fake gun with a knife at the end um... anyway i i don't know if this is his idea or his public defenders idea or whatever to say that now he attacked because he's triggered because of jokes and being the way our DA is, it probably will work and now anyone can attack any comedian if you don't like the joke
Starting point is 00:22:17 because you're triggered and because you had a shitty childhood and because you're not killing it in life today and someone might have joked about that. I mean, that is just insane. Britney was off, again, on the Instagram. She's wearing her brown pumps. She is now talking. She's obviously listening to Juicy Scoop, because I said we don't hear her talk anymore.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Well, she talked a lot. She did a whole nother video, brought back her character sessions with Ashley, who is this awful therapist that apparently she went to. Then she twirled around, she said go to six flags. A lot of things didn't make sense after this this get. But again, Brittany fans, I agree. This is her outlet. Let her be free. People are like, who's running this? No one's running it. No one is running it.
Starting point is 00:23:07 She's running it. She's free. She can do her own Instagram and it's gonna be some nudes. It's gonna be some cups of coffee. It's going to be photos of her brown pumps. It's gonna be her spinning. It's going to be other little viral videos that she finds. That's it.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Then she went to Vegas to Resort World, which was nice because she said she never could have fun when she was performing in Vegas. Someone treated her there, she took a bunch of photos there, she was with Sam, and you know, it looked like she had a good time. So there you go. Thanks for listening, Brittany.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Oh, Ramona Singer, this was amazing. Justin Anderson saw this on her story and posted it, and a lot of other people have shared it since, but Ramona was at a wedding. And she's like, so an adult wedding, and I just met the most beautiful girl. She's the sister of the bride. And I just, I wanna come over here.
Starting point is 00:24:01 And she has the phone. And she's like, can you just tell everybody what you said to me? And the woman's like, well, I just wanted to say that Ramona is such an inspiration and really gets me through some hard times. You know what? It really means so much to me because I've always known.
Starting point is 00:24:16 I was an inspiration and don't believe everything you have seen on TV. Exactly. Thanks so much. You know what? That's right. No. I know I support women. I know know inspire women and here is one that's saying it I everyone's like oh my god I mean I need to to my own horn but if I shared
Starting point is 00:24:33 every time someone came up to me you'd be like well I wouldn't I wouldn't because it's a moment between myself and the listener or the fan it's so Ramona I love it I also love that she recently did a post about Jill's errands rug and she's rugs and she said, I love it because if my dog makes a mess or if I make a mess on the rug and we all thought that was really funny because we've all seen the episodes where she actually has like shed or shed herself and is like fallen. But I think she meant like if she spilled some wine or something, then like I don't think she meant that kind of like amber turd mess. I think she just meant like
Starting point is 00:25:16 anyway she's never changing. That's the good news you guys. Ramona is never changing and we will have so many more moments like this to look forward to. Real housewives of Beverly Hills is on and oh my god there's lots of gossip going on. Sutton and Lisa Renna got into it over the Elton John thing. I still don't know if Sutton bought the tickets. I believe Lisa Renna has never paid for a ticket to Elton John. I believe that she always got to go as his guest as a celebrity who then would post and share and talk about the charity. Sutton was not a celebrity.
Starting point is 00:25:44 She always bought a ticket. Sutton invited Lisa to sit at her table and therefore paid for a ticket. That's where that's all the truth, and I don't really understand the controversy. But now Lisa Rennah is, according to Bravo Snark, someone has gotten some DMs from her, and she has been sharing all the stuff about why she is not getting along with Kathy Hilton is explained by Kathy Hilton was an on a
Starting point is 00:26:11 lot of the season. Anyway, it's all adding to wanting to watch it a lot. Again, people are talking about, is Dereet, you know, people who are thinking about Dereet's robbery because it showed up late last week, the police report. And in the police report, it did not mention that these robbers or burglar were armed. I talked to an LAPD officer that I know and I asked about that. And he said, sometimes in these things, they just didn't include it, not for any particular reason, they may have forgotten.
Starting point is 00:26:47 But chances are that people that are breaking into homes, 99% of the time they are armed. And they're very hard to catch these people, and they usually don't catch them until someone gets caught for something else and flips, or they get caught for another crime and then they match the DNA and find it. So that is why these people haven't been caught. Again, I'm still going to say I do not think Dereet or PK made up this robbery. I think there's things that don't make sense, but also being robbed at this time of your goods in your home has been happening unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:27:28 So now everybody remember to go to Heather McDonnell.net, get your tickets for June 17th. I will be at the Krug Winery with Justin Martindale, maybe another special guest too, but you got to get your tickets. It's 530 and 830. There's a meet and greet in between. And you can get all that at HeatherMeetAll.net and join Patreon as well. And now for a very juicy interview I did.
Starting point is 00:27:53 It's a lot of juicy scoop history. I am talking to two guys that are former paparazzi TMZ guys who started their own very popular show, Hollywood Raw. So please welcome Daxson Adam from Hollywood Raw. Well people are out and about. They're joining the gym again. But the same thing that happened before the pandemic is happening now. You know what that is.
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Starting point is 00:29:44 Thank you. I know you guys have done your show and we just saying it right right right. You're saying it right, hey. And you've got cute dimples. Nice to see you again. Thank you. I know you guys have done your show and we just want to get into some like juicy scoop history. You guys are, tell us about your background because you are still a paparazzi person. Sure, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I call myself a street journalist. And it's honestly, same thing as paparazzi, but like you said, sexy. But it's just way to, the word paparazzi is just not the most prettiest term. So I call this stuff a journalist because I don't feel like a paparazzi. For the stuff I do, for the content I get, I'm trying to get sound bites, but it's more of like not much dirt. It's more of like trying to have a fun conversation. For example, like as you know, if I reached out to Oprah's people, if I reached out to Adam Sandler's people, if I reached out to Brad Pitt's people and said, Hey, I want to interview them. As you know, if I reached out to Oprah's people, if I reached out to Adam Sandler's
Starting point is 00:30:25 people, if I reached out to Brad Pitt's people and said, hey, I want to interview them. As you know, the first person picking up the phone would say, sorry, we're not, it should click and hang up the phone. But I realized, if I get to them, if I find them, they will talk to me. And that's what I do is I run around New York City, I'm based in New York City, and I run around trying to cross pass with celebrities. And once I do, I try to have a fun, engaging interview. And then what I do is I monetize it
Starting point is 00:30:45 by licensing to different media outlets around the world. Okay, so you're just like your independent. I'm independent for sure. I'm not with TMZ. I was with TMZ. So my backstreet, I was with TMZ for years. I'm a stamp comic. Went to school for PR, couldn't get a job anywhere.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Went back to school, got my teaching certification, couldn't get a job anywhere. And then in 2009, I did a show in a New York City, as a stamp comic. someone in the crowd said, you seem funny, not threatening, you know, pop culture. Would you be interested in a job at TMZ? I said, listen, I'll do anything for health insurance. The next day, pretty much, like they introduced me
Starting point is 00:31:14 to someone, got a job at TMZ and they threw a camera in my hand, they said, let's see what you could do. They gave me a two-week contract. And two weeks, I had two interviews, I didn't get arrested. And then they offered me a three-year contract. And then that's been, you know, I've started with TMZ worked there for over seven years. And now, my own, run around the streets of New York City doing celebrity news. And when did you and DAX fall in love?
Starting point is 00:31:34 Let's see, when did we fall in love? Yeah. No, so I would say we both kind of left TMZ. Oh, let me clarify you guys are not a couple. No, no, I mean, we would be a cute couple, though. We don't get you wrong. Yeah. No, we both left TMZ kind of around the same time,
Starting point is 00:31:47 maybe a year apart or so. We didn't even really talk when we were at TMZ, we weren't friends, we just kind of knew of each other. And then afterwards, this podcast opportunity came up and we decided, you know what, we're both good, we like to talk, we like to talk, we got good stories, let's join forces and make this podcast.
Starting point is 00:32:04 And that's kind of honestly, when we started, now we talk five times a day. Yeah, which sharp road, we got good stories, let's join forces and make this podcast. And that's kind of honestly, when we started, and then we talked five times a day. Yeah, which started growing. I mean, we have different backgrounds. Dax's role at TMZ was to go through all the photography agencies, all the pop-rosity agencies, see the photos before they get to the public. So he had a basic determined as the photo editor.
Starting point is 00:32:20 It was the most voyeuristic job you could ever imagine constantly going through all these websites. I mean, you're seeing every photo that people would like to see before they're edited, before they're blurred, before they're blackboard everything. It was really fun. I have a question being that Lisa Renna is being sued for like a million something money because she apparently throw through a photo herself that was taken by someone else on Instagram, which I kind of this, you know, I want to know the rules for people like me and other people. What, what, you know, I think people, I don't think that was an intent where she was trying to screw over this photographer, but like, it's something like that happens and, you know, and there's like, before it gets to a
Starting point is 00:33:03 lawsuit thing, what is the person supposed to do? Find that photographer and immediately be like, what do I need to do to buy this? Like, my suggestion, especially if it's a big celeb, find out who took it, whatever agency it's from, and tag the agency. You're more likely to not get in trouble if you tag the agency, give them some kind of credit,
Starting point is 00:33:22 give them a photo credit tag, whatever it is, I'm not saying that's right, but I'm saying you're less likely to get a lawsuit because you gotta realize like, that is their business. Their business is to make money off photographs, so if they see their photo come up, and they know that you didn't like, you didn't talk to them,
Starting point is 00:33:37 they're most likely gonna come after you to get money. And it might be some crazy amount, because they know they're not going to get that about. They're going to get something less. Okay, so let's say you go on the red carpet doing something. In the next day, I go to Getty and I look up Heather McDonald and I'm like, I really like this photo. And it's like whatever, $450.
Starting point is 00:33:57 But wouldn't I have to, the proper thing to do is to buy that photo for $450. So I own it. You license it technically. Oh, you don photo for $450. So I own it. You license it technically. You don't even own it. You're licensing it. So I license it for, and then I can put it on my Instagram. Or if you want to just try to be nice and try to play cool with the photographer, the usually the photographers
Starting point is 00:34:16 names below, reach out to them. Say, hey, listen, would you mind if I use this photo? I'll tag you. I mean, celebrities will reach out to photographers, pop rats, they'll all the time and say, hey, listen, would you mind if I post this photo? I'll tag you. Majority, celebrities will reach out to photographers, pop rats all the time and say, hey, listen, would you mind if I post this photo? I'll tag you. Majority of the photographers will say, yeah, that's cool, thanks, because they don't mind.
Starting point is 00:34:30 They appreciate you actually asking, rather than taking, because if you just put the photo on Instagram, then an outlet could take that photo from Instagram and say, hey, we just got it from Instagram. It's sort of, do you know what I'm saying? Like, okay, so yeah, it's working the system. And you'll notice like, but also like, when you're not supposed
Starting point is 00:34:43 to have the getty image watermark, right? No, you're technically stealing the photo. Right, yeah. But like and you'll notice like, but also like when you're not supposed to have the getty image watermark, right? No, you're technically stealing the photo. Right, yeah. But like you'll notice like the Kardashians, they used to steal all the time, put up these photos and they'd be like, well, what the heck? This is my image that you're using to make money. I should be able to post my own image.
Starting point is 00:34:58 It unfortunately doesn't work that way. And so they got in trouble enough that now you'll notice they tag, they credit, they got slapped on the wrist and they will they'll give a little credit yeah someone just dm mean was like have you noticed that now Kylie is only using her own photographers she's bringing her photographers everywhere I mean I don't think she could control the met ball steps but like she I think that's why she didn't go this is what this person said That's why she didn't go to the hulu premiere like she I think that's why she didn't go this is what this person said. That's why she didn't go to the Hulu premiere like she I think Wants to have a little have more control, I guess
Starting point is 00:35:29 Well, there's a lot of big stars that will have their own photographer that follows them around takes pictures And they will then give those photos to the agencies. Oh, okay, and so Technically they own the rights to them But then they can still be distributed out throughout all the websites, the magazines, and they control the narrative. They also make sure the photo looks good. They get filtered a little bit. Yeah, yeah, brush some of the stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Right, yeah. But actually as photographers, coming from the photographers point of view, they hope that a brand takes their photo without letting them know because that actually is more money. Like there's companies like Oculaity and like, lawyers type of thing that they look online for people who use their content without the permission, and they hope that a brand takes their photo without asking them, because then I can actually charge them
Starting point is 00:36:13 double and make more money than that. So it's a wild thing, but that's just what it's come down to now with social media and the photo's getting out there. All right, I want to ask you about some of the juicy interviews that you've done. I remember hearing that one with Larsa. Oh, that was a good interview. That was a good interview. I was super intrigued.
Starting point is 00:36:30 It was before we saw Larsa Pippin on the return of Real House, I was in Miami, which I watched. And as you know, Larsa was just best friends with Kim for many years. And it was always like, I felt like the internet was to, like also like people involved in this world would be like, ah, stop making, stop trying to make Larsa happen. Like people were almost annoyed how much she was always just like peripheral, peripherally with the girls
Starting point is 00:36:58 or whatever. And so, but it was sort of interesting to hear her side. And so I know what my opinion was after hearing it, but why don't you guys tell me what you thought as you were talking to her as far as like, what happened with the friendship? Well, I think first off, like, Larza Pippins like was before the interview
Starting point is 00:37:18 was like an allusion to me. You saw her photos all over online. You saw her in Daily Mail pretty much every day, but I don't think I ever heard her voice. I was like, what's this girl's deal? I don't know what's going on. And then when we reached out to do the interview, she was honestly on time, which you always respect,
Starting point is 00:37:31 appreciate, and also super chill, like so cool. So relaxed. So nice, so down to earth. And we went her mover camera around her house because there was no light and we're like, can you move here? No, we can't here. It's too accurate.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Your house is too big. Okay, move to this other room. She was so cool and I didn't expect that from her at all. Yeah, we can't here. It's too accurate. Your house is too big. Okay, move to this other room. She was so cool. And I didn't expect that from her at all. Yeah, I got it. And how did you guys get the interview? And why do you think she decided to talk to you guys? That's a big question.
Starting point is 00:37:52 We had a mutual friend that kind of was our intermediary. Can we say who it was? Do you think it was? Yeah, I mean, Shiraaz. Do you know Shiraaz? You ever say that guy drives around L.A. and he's got the fame truck all around? No, it sounds like fun.
Starting point is 00:38:04 No, it sounds like fun person it sounds like a fun person. Sounds like a person who'd be kind of messing with that. And he's awesome. And he was the one that put us in contact and she said, okay, and so we sat down and had this amazing conversation. It was probably our first interview where someone really opened up and got us like,
Starting point is 00:38:22 wild press. I don't think I'd ever seen so much press on a podcast before that. And, you know, she dove into Kanye West and saying how he brainwashed the Kardashians against her. Things she said that I, I couldn't believe she was, she was going against the Kardashians essentially. And that's what made that such a big interview.
Starting point is 00:38:42 I mean, I, from everything I gathered, it's like, I think that she was in one of those situations where her best friend, Kim, was really sharing everything with her. And like, Kanye realized Kim was slipping away, and then Kanye was contacting her and she was sort of in the middle and then I Cut out again, and then and then it's almost like which is why it's so hard when you're in that position with your girlfriend and her Under spous and we've all girls have all been there Because it's like you might you're here your friend cry and everything and your advice might be like get out get out and then they stay in it and they're like embarrassed that they're still with this person that they
Starting point is 00:39:33 you know invented about everything and so that they'd rather not even see the friend that was consoling them all that time. And so then I think also what happened was then he was grasping at her to see if like somehow how he could get in her brain to like have her convince. Like I think it was just a messy thing like that. I don't think like Kanye was ever trying to sleep with her vice versa. Like I don't think it was like that. She never made it sound like that.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Yeah. She made sound like they had a good friendship. Her and Kanye is who I'm referring to. Had a good friendship. Yes. And that he would talk to her about their dramas and that and that. And I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:40:11 I think that it got nasty and Kanye looked at Kim and said, you need to get rid of her. She's the weak, like not us, not how our relationship is doing, get Larsa out. And I am curious if Larsa and Kim will reconnect now that Kanye is out of the picture i mean listen you know chris was she's had close friends and the not good friends with them and then like a
Starting point is 00:40:32 great they resonate for example like they were super close during the oj tragedy and then there was a chunk of time when they weren't and then now they are again so it's like i definitely think they're very forgiving, but I also think they don't really need friends. The girls don't need friends. They have sisters. And so when something happens like with Jordan Woods, because that's her name. Jordan Woods, because I was talking about it. I kept talking about
Starting point is 00:41:01 saying Jordan Sparks and people like, what are you talking about? So with Jordan Woods, she and Kylie were best friends. But when that whole thing got awful messy with Tristan and everything, the friendship ended. And I just think like, OK, Kylie was so mature about it. She was just like, yeah, I think maybe we're a little too co-dependent and talk to him. Maybe it'll be, you know, it's okay. Like let's just, and she moved on
Starting point is 00:41:30 and found another best friend that now, Stasi or whatever. But in the end, she doesn't need any, like you always have a sister to hang out with. And I think that's where, like, if you're close with them or an employee of theirs, you just have to know you're not blood. Blood is always gonna be there. You're not blood in that not. That's like the theme of the show. That is
Starting point is 00:41:47 the show. Yeah. Sisters over everything. Yeah. I mean, you just, you know, and it doesn't mean that they don't wish you well or whatever, but it's like, people always want to think it's like so sinister if they cut someone out. And it's like, well, we were this, sometimes when you're so close, you can't then step back and be like well instead of talking four times a day Let's keep our friendship, but only have lunch once a month. It just doesn't work like that It's like just because it's a platonic friendship Just like a romantic one. It's sometimes just can't be in touch with you know How do you say friends with them? I mean how do you have a long really like Lala Lala Anthony's been friends with
Starting point is 00:42:24 You know came for years And I feel like it's a good friendship there I think there I think there are I think she is friends with a lot of famous people and I think she handles it really really well And I think she never oversteps the line and there's a line now I think she has her own path. I don't think she would want to be the BFF And it's like a perfect thing and I don't think she would want to be the BFF. And it's like a perfect thing. And I don't think they talk 12 times a day. And if you're not looking for the fame,
Starting point is 00:42:49 that's a big thing too. Lala's got her own fame. She doesn't need to be a part of the Kardashian fame. She's got her own thing going. And I think that's the difference. When you're there and you're on the peripheral, as you said before, there's going to be a point where they go, we don't need all these clingons.
Starting point is 00:43:03 We're going to move on. And I did kind of feel for Larsa in it two because I'm like yeah to the people at home It looked like you were you know a thirsty girl that sounded just like her and spoke just like her But she still had four kids that was still always gonna be her priority But it did kind of be like God why were you on like this show so much? And weren't you living in Miami like how the hell did this? Like it did seem like she dedicated a lot of her life to that friendship because Kim is who Kim is. Do you think which was bothering Kim was her getting photographed all the time and her reaching out to the pop rotting, setting up shots, like being seen all over daily mail because she was besides the sex tape going down the same route as Kim Kardashian to become famous and become a figure.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Yeah. I mean, I think with some of it is like I always remember there was like an assistant or something of Kim's and it was like how to be Kim's assistant and she was a girl that you saw on the show and she had a lot of style and she started to get her own following and everything and she did this big interview in some magazine. And then shortly after that, the relationship ended professionally. But now I think she kind of came back in the fold at a certain point, but it was sort of like, she probably approved that interview Kim.
Starting point is 00:44:22 But then the interview was too much like this person's now their own thing, yet the whole interview is about me, and I think she probably was like, yeah, go for it. And then when she likes that back, she was like, hmm, you know what? Like, I'm not comfortable with this anymore. I got to say, I liked Larsa so much more after this interview. Yeah, she's cool. She was awesome. She was just so honest and open and i i i loved every second of it and i think that she gained a lot of respect for people after it i mean she was really good on the myami show and they brought and they were like coming after her always trying to get her to to talk about the Kardashians are like did you sign in and they are something i
Starting point is 00:45:00 don't know if she did but she she doesn't want to get shit she doesn't want to say the wrong thing she'd be putting a position where the cameras were there. And she'd literally have to leave because the girls were so relentless, which I'm sure they were being pushed by the producers, to get her to talk about them. And she knew, like, you know, and that's happened to me too, like when I was hanging out with them a lot,
Starting point is 00:45:21 I'd be so excited because I'd have my book out and this and that, and I'd be rarely on the red carpet when I would like an okay magazine would be like, so my gosh, Heather, it's so exciting. You have your book out and da da da da da da. And then they'd like ask like one thing. And then oh, and you're out with the Kardashians, and da da da, and then I'd like answer that.
Starting point is 00:45:42 And then that would be the whole interview. And then I always felt like to them, it looks like, oh, I'm using them for press. But the reporter kind of tricks you into, they make it feel like it's about you and you're all like, and I'm sure they did that to Larsa all the time. And then God forbid you slip and speak too much. Now they're pissed.
Starting point is 00:46:02 And you're like, but I was speaking so highly of you. Like I wasn't even saying a bad thing. And that's why like then later on, once I learned I was like, people would be like, and is there anything we can ask you? And I'm like, yeah, don't ask me about Chelsea and don't ask me about the Kardashians, because like, then,
Starting point is 00:46:16 it doesn't go well for them. Yeah, then all of a sudden, I look like the chasing like thirsty person when it's just like, and I think that would be my advice to people. When you look like Larson stuff, like just put it out there when you do the interviews, just like, and I think that would be my advice to people. Like, like, Larson stuff. Like, just put it out there when you do the interviews, just say, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:29 When you were close with the Kardashian clan, did you, did you have to send NDA at all to be friends with them, or when you went into the house, no NDA? Never, any NDA ever. That was a weird idea. But it was a long time ago. Like, we both started, like, Chelsea was on,
Starting point is 00:46:44 we were on E first and I was hired to be a writer on the show and appear on it and then their show started maybe like five months after our show started, but I was just friendly with them anyway. So I was like going on Mother's Day and like at their house and we were just like friends and I just thought they were like so fun
Starting point is 00:47:04 and I was kind of in between the ages of Chris and Kim and Courtney so it was like I was kind of friends with like all of them and It was just yeah, and so then and then the show happened and like we would they would always come on our show and we're always doing e-things and up-fronts and Parties and all that stuff and then yeah, and then times pass. And you're not seeing each other in a work environment. And it's like it's all good. Yeah. Do you like what we just said, too?
Starting point is 00:47:30 We've got you talk about Chelsea and the Kardashians. That's our voodoo magic right there. Yeah. It's all good, but I like not being as close to them because they are in the new so much. And I do like giving my honest opinion and analyzing it. Because like this, like what we just said, the Lars, I like taking pop culture stuff like that, like a Larsa friendship break up with Kim.
Starting point is 00:47:55 But then putting it to a place that anyone at home can relate to, like any married woman or anybody in a serious relationship has been there, whether either been the girlfriend that knew too much, or you shared too much, you know? And then your friendship suffered because of it. Like, yeah. I will say this about the Kardashians, especially doing what we all do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:15 You know, from my experiences, from your experiences, people always ask me when I tell them what I do, like, have you ever met the Kardashians? And I'll say this. They're one, for my experience at least, they're one of the best celebrities. They handle it very well. They're good to the photographers, they're good to the fans. Like, they, am I opinion say this, they're one for my experience at least. They're one of the best celebrities. They handle it very well.
Starting point is 00:48:25 They're good to the photographers, they're good to the fans. Like they, in my opinion, they're great. Like people are like, no, Kim's awesome. Always, yeah. They're good people. And that's what, and you know, the other thing is that. I talk shit about people, but like, Kim's actually a good person.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Like no, she's genuinely cool, she's chill, they're fun. Like they're great people. We cover them a lot. Like we've had the bodyguard, Kim's in Kanye's bodyguard on. We've had Larissa on and maybe scoop on the bodyguard, Kim's Kanye's bodyguard on. We've had Larissa on. And what was the scoop on the bodyguard? All the bodyguard was good. The bodyguard was good.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Now is this the bodyguard that they, there was like some controversy going after? Yes, he was like a, he's an actor now, but he talked about when he like first came into the scene, he didn't know much about like what, you know, was the deal with Kanye and Kanye was just kind of being an asshole to him and would get in the elevator day one and be like, push the button.
Starting point is 00:49:10 He's like, I don't know what floor we're going to. He's like, well, why didn't you figure out before you got in here? He's like, I literally just met you four seconds ago. So there was a lot of like, just these little stories about where a glimpse into what Kanye's really like behind the scenes. And he having to pick Kanye up off the side of the freeway at two in the morning because
Starting point is 00:49:28 Kanye decided to have a meltdown and go out for a walk. And so now this guy is his job is to go find Kanye in the middle of the night in New York. I mean, there was just story after story where you saw the real side of Kanye. And I think that's why that episode. And what is your opinion knowing all that you know? I mean, of just Kanye in general. Of Kanye and General. Of Kanye and General. I think he just has a really big personality.
Starting point is 00:49:49 I think he's a hard person to deal with. I think he's a huge artist. And I think sometimes you get into these artists where they're all about themselves. And I think that's what Kanye is. I think he's all about himself. And his persona. I remember covering Kanye when he was in New York
Starting point is 00:50:04 and he was doing the fashion week, and he was performing at the garden. And it was all week. And like you said, it sounds weird. Like there's a lot of musicians out there. There's a lot of, I hate to call some of these music acts artists, but I actually do feel like he's an artist because he does work very hard on it.
Starting point is 00:50:17 So when he had the fashion week, he was going to the gym around like 10 in the morning, or E 30 in the morning every day. He'd go to the gym in Equinox and Soho. And he'd go there for about an hour and a half. And then after day, he'd go to the gym in Equinox and Soho, and he'd go there for about an hour and a half. And then after that, he'd go to an office in Soho, work on the Fashion Week told about 8 PM at night, then 8 PM, race over to the garden,
Starting point is 00:50:33 and then perform for a sold-out show at the garden. And then did it like three nights, and I was like, this guy's working his ass off. And I was like, I mean, is he insane? Yeah, he's insane. But he does work hard. He's a hard worker. We all know that he has his own mental issues
Starting point is 00:50:46 that he deals with and I don't want to downplay any of that stuff is obviously very important. But I think that he's a hard personality deal with on the outside of it. Yeah, definitely. For anyone around him. Yeah. Not a bad guy though, from my experience. Listen, I can talk shit. But he's actually like he's from all the rappers I've been around. Like a lot of rappers have big enthrasias. Kanye's usually like just him sometimes with a bodyguard. Like sometimes he's just like him and a Mercedes car like in the back seat just jumps out like me. He did used to get mad at that same bodyguard because the bodyguard would be in between him and the pop rod. He's like, get out of the way. They need their photos. I need them to get their photos so that I can be on the magazines. You know that's did you see when he did that about when he was with Julia Fox for a
Starting point is 00:51:28 minute? And everyone's like what is this? And someone caught the fact that he was like get out of the shot. I'm coming to me. I'm coming to meet my girl. What did you think of that whole weird thing? I mean that was just a rebuttal right? Yeah. That's all that was was I need to make sure that I'm not looking like the loser in the situation. We're separating. She's now seen off with her SNL boyfriend and I don't want to look like the loser.
Starting point is 00:51:52 So I'm going to find someone and mold her and get everyone to talk about it. He also put that out himself because that photo, I was in Miami. I was actually the first one on the scene. I was in Miami for a month and it was carbon ripe for New Year's roughly. And I got a tip and it was carbon ripe right before new years roughly and I got a tip that Kanye was there and if you walk into carbon on Miami
Starting point is 00:52:09 We all know that last celebrity's go to carbon. It's brand new Miami. There's the regular people on the right There's a bar suzy walk in and after bars a private room I walked in and there's a bodyguard in front of like the door. So we all knew that Kanye was in there I one other photographer showed up outside and it's me and the other photographer, and like, did you get him going in? No, okay. And we saw the car, Kanye's car, the guy said, yeah, I'm picking up Kanye.
Starting point is 00:52:31 So all of a sudden, when Kanye's gonna come out, he comes, the car goes to the back of the restaurant. So I race to the back of the restaurant, me and the photographer. Kanye's photographer comes out. It's two of you guys, we're not gonna do shots tonight. I got the shot, I'm like, well, we're here too. Like, we're working.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Like, we wanna get the shot. Come on, guys, I'm gonna get the shot. I'm like, well, we're here to like we're working like we want to get the shot. Come on guys. I'm with the show. I'm going to get the show. He's all right. Know what? Stay right here. What they do, they sneak him out back out the front. But also the photo gets released exclusively to TMZ. They get the photo and they knew she was. How does a photo of them like showing her face and they knew who that is? Like, oh, that's Julia Fox. Like they just knew who she was right away. And he was with the photographer. Like they placed it out. She, I mean, I clearly he wanted the press.
Starting point is 00:53:10 He wanted the press. We are not against working with paparazzi. We're not against working with the media. I do. I all means do your thing, keep the narrative going. I think it works for everyone involved, right? Like I'm not against it. And I had some connections to Julian.
Starting point is 00:53:23 I reached out just out of curiosity. Hey, did you guys, and she's like yeah that's what we did we like the photo the funny part about that thing about that night was so peat and kimmerin town for uh... new year's eve and i reached out to someone who i know in the kim camp and i said hey just a heads up carbon the hottest restaurant cogniz here right now with a girl like with some people don't come to carbon like it's gonna be you know you think I like me would want to see that kind of clash. However, I'm trying to get in with these people. I want to give them the heads up
Starting point is 00:53:52 saying like so and they said actually we're ordering food from carbon so they added their bodyguard pickup for Kim and Pete sent the bodyguard to pick up food from carbon but can you imagine if they all came and so I mean that would be amazing. You ruined it for the rest of us. I know I know I know but dude and I thought it maybe helped me out but then this shit yeah. Oh you know what I think of is how she said how she didn't eat food for whatever any carbs for three weeks or whatever.
Starting point is 00:54:16 I opened my stress with my gal. Yes but then I realized wasn't it three weeks ago maybe it was longer that she was in the gray dress at the Hulu thing and then they went to the Johnny and Vinnie's and they had those Diet Coke photos. Yes, that's right. I guess you didn't meet any of that pizza. No. No. She stared at it.
Starting point is 00:54:34 She stared at it drooling. She stared. Yeah. She stared at it drooling. She stared at it. She stared at it drooling. She stared at it drooling. She stared at it drooling.
Starting point is 00:54:42 She stared at it drooling. She stared at it drooling. She stared at it drooling. She stared at it drooling. She stared at it drooling. She stared at it drooling. She stared at it drooling. Instagram account called House of Habit, and she's like hardcore covering the Johnny Depp trial. And she was noticing that like the new, her new PR person was like they, she like zoomed in on him like talking to the court photographer that handing these notes to the lawyer. Like it's interesting how that even works in a court of law
Starting point is 00:55:03 like to get, because she's been getting such The crowd is not for Amber her Oh, no, we have one of our friends is actually been going to court We keep having her come on her name's Danielle. She's been going to a court and so we will get little updates from her Like by weekly like okay. Tell us what we didn't see on camera Give us those reports because that's what what we really wanna know is like, when they come in to Amber and Johnny ever cross paths, what is it like outside?
Starting point is 00:55:30 You know, what are these fans like? Oh, they're bringing Al Pacas outside for Johnny. Like, the weirdest stuff. When did he say he was into Al Pacas? I'm confused about the Al Pacas thing. People are just like Captain Jack Sparrow trying to put it on the platform. I mean, it's total, it's insane.
Starting point is 00:55:44 It's false. It's false. It's an event. This is the best soap opera you could ever ask for. Right? There is no bigger court case in the last 10 years. But I feel like this one is wild. Johnny's getting confident. I feel like he's having, I don't want to say enjoying it.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Oh, he's enjoying it. But I think he is. He's 100% enjoying it. He's laughing. He's laughing. He's trying. You know why? Oh, my image, my reputation has already been ruined.
Starting point is 00:56:08 So I'm going to take her down with me. Is I really think that was the whole point of this whole face? I really feel like he went for it thinking, what do I have to lose? I have everything to gain. Yep. I have nothing to lose. Part of me wondering is after watching that,
Starting point is 00:56:22 what's that show? That was just a Netflix, the Anna show, the Anna Dupont. Anna Delby. Yeah. Now with the fashion that she wore in the that puts that show that was just enough looks at anna show the anodity that I don't know that they yeah now with it the fashion that she wore in the courtroom and how important that was like a one of their members trying to do the same thing to the and just keeps copying what he's got to be I know I know it but it's pretty insane that we're calling this out and she's still doing it it's it's crazy okay yeah you had a
Starting point is 00:56:41 juicy one with Kristen dody mm-hmm and that happened right after when right after she was fired from vendor pump rules Okay, so how did you get that one? I don't remember how we got that. I'm trying to think we just reached out and then I you know what because that was a big story I don't remember Huge huge story and so we're like you know what we keep breaking these big stories You want to come on and talk for the first time. We'll give you the platform to tell your side of the story. And she came on. We also said that we can't come in. We won't come with a bias, but we're going to be asking, we're going to ask you tough questions.
Starting point is 00:57:15 We're going to ask you tough questions, but we're not going to call it an angle. You know, we're trying to, it's not gotcha, but we'll give you a platform or just curious like how it all goes down from, explain to us what happened, explain to us how it is when you get fired from Bravo. Like how do you find out? Like everyone's got, you know, not everyone's got fired. She said she found out literally five minutes before the world did.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Like they had already leaked it out to whatever news site broke it, so she was reading it, and then five minutes later the whole world knew she was fired. Her big thing was, look, I get why they were so upset. I just wish I could have learned my lesson on television, and I could have been an informative broadcast for everyone involved. She's like, I just wish that this could have been a learning moment for everyone, rather than just fire me, get rid of me, and now I'm done for. You know, it was just so unfortunate for so many
Starting point is 00:58:04 reasons, because it was just the world was just, and then it was, wait, did she, they could find before COVID or like during COVID. It was before. It was right before, but then COVID happened. So like, there wasn't even that opportunity to film any of them doing this or just, yeah. She was wonderful.
Starting point is 00:58:23 You know the crazy story that we just heard the other day? The Megan Markle checked out her podcast. Checked out, what do you mean? She listened to our podcast. Oh, she listened to it. I thought you meant she checked out her own podcast. Now this like blew my mind, the Megan Markle. So we had Simon Rex.
Starting point is 00:58:39 We had Simon Rex on. I'm sure she. She skipped too. Of course. I'm sure she. Yeah. No, we had Simon Rex on a while ago, and he had this whole story that he told us about how some,
Starting point is 00:58:49 so they used to co-star in some show together, and then there was rumors that they dated. Well, right before the royal wedding, one of the big tabloids reached out to him and said, we'll pay you 70,000, I don't know if those dollars, euros, pounds, I don't know what it was, 70,000, to lie and say, you slept with her. And he came on a podcast and said,
Starting point is 00:59:10 I wouldn't do it, broke the story. She apparently listened to the podcast and wrote them a thank you note. I thought the whole thing. And saying thank you for standing by your morals and not telling these lies just for a quick paycheck. And I thought, like, blew my mind. Also that kind of info really kind of validates
Starting point is 00:59:29 the hell that they were put through with these tabloids and chasing the stories and chasing the father and all that other stuff. I read just somewhere that one of her Netflix shows didn't they have a podcast she and Harry? They did and I did it ever come to any because I heard another show that Harry Oprah thing they're working on something and then there was just got canned right yeah it was like a it was like a childhood what do you mean Netflix is hurting all they're
Starting point is 00:59:58 losing subscribers like give me the scoop I don't know what you said they should ask me to be a Netflix to the Joker party festival. The only person that can have. The only Max is like blowing up and Netflix is losing tons of subscribers. And so it's been a whole story. I personally don't agree. I love Netflix.
Starting point is 01:00:15 I don't know why. I think it's kind of like that herd mentality where people here like, oh, Netflix isn't cool. So we're all gonna say it's not cool and start unsubscribing, but they've lost a lot of subscribers because people share their passwords. Oh, okay. And so the scriboard number is going down and down, and it's hurting them, and they're
Starting point is 01:00:31 having to cancel a lot of big shows that they were planning on. Hmm, interesting. Well, you know, there is a lot, and it's like one of those things where you sometimes have to evaluate, you know, what, how many things you're going to subscribe to. And H real max, I do like, I also like Hulu. I just kind of go, what's the hot thing? I mean, I'm fortunately not in a place where I have to cancel or steal someone's password. But like, I don't blame people for do, like, I get it, you know, I'm sure if I was like 22 or something, I'd be down for doing that. But, um, oh, that's okay.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Yeah, because they were supposed to have all these big deals i mean they're gonna spend a ton of money on those two that was i guess post-counter you know i have to i have to say i'm sorry magan because you're listening but i think that's probably the wise thing i don't i never i didn't think i was like i'm in a kind of just pissed me off because at that time like you know everyone's getting millions of dollars to do a podcast and a celebrity's getting million.
Starting point is 01:01:27 I'm like, why? Under what basis? Like, what come up with content? Well, when were you a producer before Megan? Like, you're a pretty girl and you're a decent actress and I think you're a smart woman. But like, I'm sorry, are you shondaland? Like, why would you give someone that and him too?
Starting point is 01:01:43 So, why would you give two of and him to so what what why would you give to those people to go you have a whole fit list of things that you can do what is your opinion on making mark because she gets a lot of shit like a lot I'm a fan of the fact that she has an awful half-sister I can relate to awful dysfunctional sibling relationships and jealous siblings and for that, I feel like that she deserves the hate that she gets around the world. Like is, I never met her personally.
Starting point is 01:02:15 I don't know what she's like behind closed doors. I hear all these stories. I don't know if they're true stories. You know, like we were sitting here talking about how the press was trying to manipulate stories to make her look worse. I mean, I don't, no, I don't think, I think she's a pleasant girl, you know, you like we were sitting and talking about how the press was trying to manipulate stories to make her look worse I mean, I don't know. I don't think I think she's a pleasant girl You know, I think she had nice parents
Starting point is 01:02:31 She went to like an all-girl Catholic high school, which I went to the with very similar ones are related to that She's an LA girl. She was raised here and honestly. I wouldn't want to live in London either I what happens when you're raised in Southern California is it's very hard for you to live anywhere else. And that's why I tell people be careful where you want to send your kid at 18. If they're Southern California pussy, they are not going to be able to, most of them will not be able to love and thrive on the East Coast. And that's just a fact. And that's just a fact.
Starting point is 01:03:01 I felt like the world loved her and then the world hated her. And I just don't know what i don't think i don't know what was it i don't think it's the world i mean i think that people still like felt for her but i think the truth is she got in that situation and it was it like you don't always and you went from going to soo house and soo and and no boon malibu doing some tv sysflite maybe having a hot rendezvous with Prince the Prince, planning the wedding,
Starting point is 01:03:28 and now you're in a cold, musty place. And your girlfriends aren't there and you aren't acting, and I just think it was, I think it's a big bummer. It's like, it's the old Princess in the castle. It's not that great. It's just not that great. And so in that, she may have been struggling, which then reflected on the people around her judging her. And she just,
Starting point is 01:03:52 I think she kind of realized, I don't want this life. I just, I don't want this life, but I want you. And he was just like, okay, what do we have to do? I guess, you know, and then, okay, I guess we have to leave, you know, and then people blamed that for how could you break up the brothers, you know, and then, okay, I guess we have to leave, you know, and then people blamed that for how could you break up the brothers, you know, like it's the wife and people always think that too about boys, you know, like it's the wife that takes the boy from the mom and it's the, you know, so I think that people were so sad because they saw them as at least they had each other when Diana died. And now who was it? Because they were okay with Kate, so it must be her that split them. And there's so many theories of why they're not close right now.
Starting point is 01:04:37 But that part is set. She's not completely innocent. She did have a little bit of strategy to become the star she is. We had Jezzle on the podcast. Oh yeah, he's a really famous photographer. Photographer. And he was dealing with her. I mean, directly. They were set up photos. And this is when she was, she was, she was an actress of the time. She wasn't dating him. I don't think. Yeah, but she was like, she was working the system to get to that level. I kind of admire that because I didn't and I'm here talking to you guys.
Starting point is 01:05:11 You're welcome. I mean, I didn't, I never screwed anyone. I didn't date the right person. I didn't like, nothing. And like, I kind of admire people that, what else? Yeah, or kind of figure it out. And you know, you call it a shortcut,
Starting point is 01:05:30 whatever, call it being thirsty. It's like, even if you did sleep with someone to get the part, like I always say like, where's the women, when will the women, the people come out and go, I, it was wonderful. I agreed to sleep with Weinstein or whoever. Because I knew that was the only way to get this part once I got the part I never had to sleep with another gross pig again because everyone saw what a good actress I was
Starting point is 01:05:53 but how was anyone going to see what a good actress I was until I got this platform so I used what I had and I you know set an art father and I got the fucking through it like no where there's a million women like that no one will say it and like i'm waiting for that woman on her death better whatever that like in braces and i mean and just says it so many women not switch subjects a little bit harview i think a lot of women came forward saying oh i said no he came on to me i said no a lot of girls who said yes and actually and there's a few of them
Starting point is 01:06:20 like who got big roles who actually said to them i used to mess with the heart of the house and i was saying like there's no way that every single person that he went for resisted there were enough along the way that it that comply sure and they're not bad people whatever and they and might have been a really horrible experience for that but you know um but also they might have gotten something great and might have known about it and as being a step to get to
Starting point is 01:06:46 their goal quicker and didn't really care and didn't see it as you know. I wish those women came forward. That's what I'm talking about. I know I want to hear their perspective on another angle and I don't judge them for it. I sort of get it because the fear of how to provide for your family or life and you have this opportunity. I just wanted to get a part of history. Or just wanting to get a part.
Starting point is 01:07:06 When you are trying to get those parts, and it's the only way, you know, before you can make it and podcasting, like when the only way was to get a casting agent or someone or an agent to say yes to you. And you hear so many, so many nose, nose, nose, and you're getting older and you're like, what is the chance of me now ever,
Starting point is 01:07:29 like getting to that place that I imagined? Well, this is gonna jump from here to here. So do you wanna take the jump or do you wanna like, hope that someone's gonna say yes in the proper way? Well, maybe your friend is like, this is what I did. You should do it too, you know, all right, fine. I used to fuck with Harvey Weinstein all the time. Why would you lie sleeping together?
Starting point is 01:07:51 So I didn't sleep with him. I wasn't as tight, but I tried. Trust me, if it would have helped me out, I would have. But he had an office in Tribeca right next to the criminal hotel. I just couldn't get it. Yeah, right? But his office is right next to the Greenwich Hotel.
Starting point is 01:08:01 They do the Tribeca film festival right there. And I would always be outside the Greenwich Hotel because a lot of celebrities would be there. Every morning, 8.30 in the morning, 9 a.m., he'd always be outside talking to a new girl. This one on all the time, like a model-ish type girl and talking to a girl. And I always kind of walk by and hear him what he's saying, he'd talk about movies, and he was known as an asshole.
Starting point is 01:08:20 You know, like everyone, there was kind of like the theme about him. He was not a pleasant guy. But I just think it was funny to fuck with him. So every day I, if I saw him talking to a different girl, I'd walk up and go, I'm sorry, interrupt. Mr. Weinstein, I just want to let you know my huge fan. I'm sorry, interrupt. I just want to say your movies inspire me. Thank you for doing what you do. Keep doing it. I'm sorry, interrupt. And just like, just kiss his ass in front of me. Like, he turned to the nice sky. Go, thank you so much. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:08:42 And I just make it. He's just funny, Mr. Just love me. He loved it because I'd make his ego so big. I'm a good and fun the girl. I mean, yeah I did it to him probably about 20 times this guy never caught on and it was just so funny They keep fucking with him every time even the paparazzi like dude. You're gonna fuck with him again Yeah, sure and I just keep messing with them and it was like he never caught on like the same guy Keep coming up to him like oh my god your movies inspire me. I mean, I don't know what I'm doing I mean, that would be really funny if okay did you see that movie it was a couple years ago
Starting point is 01:09:07 and I just came across it maybe it was Netflix rest in peace it was called like the assistant or something and it was a smaller film and it was basically like a wine-steamed character you never see him but this girl gets a job as an assistant and she realizes he's not interested in her sexually but then there's like and there's two guys so she's like the third assistant there's the two guys and then her and then there she starts to see that there's these other girls that are coming through and he's also like mean and like yelling at them and stuff and they're all like oh he's her perfect but then she kind of sees what's going on that like she just they show her just cleaning like the come off that off the
Starting point is 01:09:47 You know, couches and like what's going on and this other girls like yeah, I guess I'm supposed to be the the fourth assistant But I'm supposed to stay I'm supposed to be doing my work at the hotel or whatever like it it's just very It was done really well, but it was that kind of things But I'm saying in that movie that would have been funny if they showed him and he actually hired someone to be that person that does that. Like honestly, people, guys listening to this show, that would be kind of a good thing to do on a date. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Like hire someone. So you're on a date. Yeah. Just to run up to you and act like you're the hottest shit ever or what? Or even like, let's just say you're like an attorney or what? You're like dating this girl and you just have somebody walk up and be like, you know, Mr. Jones, I don't know if you remember me, you know, whatever. Let's say you were a professor somewhere or something before you became a certain, whatever.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Like someone could be like, I don't know if you remember me, you know, I went to the school you're the, you know, you're the greatest guy and I remember the advice you said like just something like that where you're having dinner and you're like Oh my god, he's so I mean it's this is a sociopathic thing for someone to do. This is like a weird deal. Yeah, we can start up a business here guys. Well like I mean, but it could I mean talk about like Turning on someone and having them think like, wow, and then finding out later, like, oh my God, that guy was like a hired fan. Or like booster ego.
Starting point is 01:11:12 It's called hired admirer. That's not should not have been. I like it. He goes for a paparazzi for themselves. I mean, a hired admirer. I heard fans. Yeah, hired admirer, like of just someone being like, almost like in tears, like, you got me through it. Yes, like you're this person is so lucky to even know you like yeah good luck on your day
Starting point is 01:11:31 I'm so sorry to interrupt it I just like if I said if I ever run into you I just have to tell you when I met you my first job working at your whatever store Can you cut this out so we can use this as our business model? Let's do it short take no, yeah Okay, so tell me about this as our business model? Yeah, let's do it. Let's go short take a moment. Yeah. OK, so tell me about the Brookhogan. Because that, I mean, that was one of the first family
Starting point is 01:11:51 reality shows, kind of like, wasn't that almost before Kardashians, but after Osborne? Like, in between there. Because when MTV was at its height with big reality. And it was Paul Cogan and his wife who'd been married for a long time for Hollywood. He's this like famous, super tan, like wrestler character. And then he had the two kids, Brooke and the brother.
Starting point is 01:12:17 And so tell me a little bit, like, because obviously that show ended in their life got in, catch everyone. Yeah, so you know, Brooke then had a spin-off show. Brooke knows best. It was Hogan's no Hogan knows best then Brooke knows best and that was like her way to stay in the reality world. She was trying to follow her get a music career and see her journey become a musician out of her father's legacy. So we had her stop by and we literally reached out for her and she's like on like a DM to her Yeah, I deem there and she responded said sure no problem like all come on
Starting point is 01:12:51 I just don't think anyone had reached out to her in a little bit and so she was happy to come on We have on like how many so like a year ago or what she came on six six months ago? Okay, so now it's been like ten years So she's been on TV and we're and what she up Okay, so now it's been like 10 years that she's been on TV. Yeah, we are. And what she up to. She has, so it's funny, she does remodeling for Airbnb's.
Starting point is 01:13:11 So she comes in and she's got like the biggest Airbnb remodeling site in the country. She'll come in and flip your Airbnb in a day and make it ready to rent out. Oh, let's have a good idea. Yes. Yeah, because somebody who of a good idea. Yes. Yeah, because someone who doesn't have a lot of decorating sense but has some cabin, she can make all millennial fun.
Starting point is 01:13:30 And she is a good idea. It's a good idea. Tons of money doing this. Oh, good for her. She did have a weird transition for a while because we talked to her. And she said, you know, when I left reality TV, I didn't know what I was doing.
Starting point is 01:13:39 I was very lost. I was like, I went from being super famous to not having anything. And she goes, I started just being a cocktail waitress like at a JW Marriott hotel. And she goes, I liked it because I got to just communicate with people. She's like, I've never talked about this.
Starting point is 01:13:55 No one ever knew that I was a waitress, but she did it for a year. And she's like, people would come in and they almost wouldn't believe it was her. Because they're like, why is Brookhogan serving me? It didn't make sense. I don't want to be rude to brokogan but like don't i don't she to me she's so unmemorable looking because i just see tan
Starting point is 01:14:11 shes like six-foot tall blonde yeah yeah i mean i'm pretty in like a truck but i'm just saying there's so many girls like look like her i bet a lot but that's california she was in california she was that where was she was like a blarda florida a national then she was in California. She was there. Where was she? But I'm saying like I'm Florida, Florida. A Nashville, then she went to Nashville. But do you think she did get recognized a lot? She said she did. She said, yeah, people would come in and be like,
Starting point is 01:14:30 that's a fan. What the hell are you doing here? And she would say, I'm just starting my life over. And she was so honest and real. And that was probably my favorite interview because she was honest. And she was like, I didn't have this like celebrity air about me. I just had to move along with my life and realize I wasn't a reality star anymore and this was what hand was dealt with for. Well, I mean, I'm always fascinated what an addiction fame is.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Fame is absolutely an addiction and in this reality world of the last 20 years, it's like this never existed before. We're someone that never tried to be an actor or You know pursued you know anything like even a sports person pursued sports to become an NFL player what like This was this is just like you could be just a mom and someone's like hey I'm auditioning for the show and they want and to meet another front of my next thing, you know a 12 years later you're're, you know, Teresa Gouda, and Jude Isse on Real Housewives of New Jersey.
Starting point is 01:15:29 And your whole life has been under microscope. Your kids have been raised on it. You're fighting with your sister-in-law, like you both, you and your husband went to jail, like you just kind of go, what would have that life been? What would her, what would she look like? Probably not as good.
Starting point is 01:15:43 What would her personality be? Like what would, what would her, what would she look like? Probably not as good. What would her personality be? Like, what would, it's just, because it's just like got, all of a sudden just gets handed to you. And you're like on the cover of magazines and like, it's just such a bizarre thing. I think Kid Rock said it best about Pam Anderson when he was dating her. He said the hardest thing in Hollywood is to be famous with no money. So, you mean Pam Anderson is now on Broadway. I mean, hopefully she's doing okay. She's doing well, but like, she's been through a couple of husbands and- Couple.
Starting point is 01:16:09 I mean, she's had like, five, five. Yeah, so it's tough. I mean, it's hard to, but the thing is, when you go back to work, like, remember for years ago, the guy who was in, was it the Cosby show? Yeah, the editor- We're to Trader Joe's. Trader Joe's, I mean, that's not easy.
Starting point is 01:16:22 That's not easy. That's not easy. Like, when you've hit that certain level of fame, doing, I don't want to say quote on kind of normal job, or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or to treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or to treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or to treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or to treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or treat or for these people that have had some level of success. I mean, I interviewed Cory Feldman, which he's kind of a different person, whatever. But one of the things he said, and it was just like, people are so awful. Like, oh, I'm sorry that I had a hit series from the time that I was nine to 14.
Starting point is 01:17:00 How many hit series have you had? So now you are going to point and laugh that like, I'm working at a restaurant or I'm working a regular job or I'm, you know, like how many stars really have had like series after series after series. Like only a handful, like Courtney Cox, Michael J. Foxx, like not that many can like hit lightning three and four times
Starting point is 01:17:24 Juliolio Dreyfus, like that's like it. So it's times, Juliolue, Drifus, that's like it. So it's like, if you have it, you get it, embrace it, love it, have a backup plan. And because, but people are exactly, people are rude about it. I think that's why I liked Brooks' interview so much was because she didn't have that airbattern. She was so wonderful. Have you had a guess that completely shocked you? Because that airbattern. She was so wonderful.
Starting point is 01:17:45 Have you had a guess that like completely shocked you? Because that's how I felt. I was shocked by the broken review. Have you had someone that walked in? You had one perception of them. They came in, sat, chatted with you, and you left being like, I did not expect that from them. Um, I mean, I'm always like, I honestly, I'm, everybody's always really nice.
Starting point is 01:18:04 If they agree to come, sometimes they're a little nervous. Sometimes people are like a little odd. Like, I don't know if they're just nervous because I'm a comedian or they're just not used to doing stuff like this. And so then sometimes that's a challenge, but people are always like, you know, very nice. So I'm never expecting, like I'm always expecting,
Starting point is 01:18:25 honestly, I'm always expecting like the best. And I'm usually, I usually get it. Like if they're willing to come to Woodland Hills, you know. I know, you were way out here. Yeah, not from here, I'm like, it's Woodland Hills. I'm like, how Woodland Hills? And that's another thing like that's happened
Starting point is 01:18:40 with like my life, I was telling Annie the other day, like so I've always grown up here, right? And then throughout my whole life of working in Hollywood, I always had to leave an hour before, you know, get, and then when I had the Chelsea lately job, hour before, you know, all the parties were down, there nothing ever was here. And just the other day,
Starting point is 01:19:00 we were gonna meet with some of some old friends from Chelsea lately. And I was like, oh, they're coming from the West side. And I guess, well, let me figure out a place to meet in Sherman Oaks. And my other friend is like, why don't we just meet at Joey's in Woodland Hill, or Hills? And I'm like, you mean like near me? Like I would only have to drive five minutes.
Starting point is 01:19:23 I never, it never even occurred to me that I would choose the easy place. Because I'm always like, oh, I don't wanna put anyone out. Oh, I wouldn't want any. Now, I'm like, yeah, you come here, forget it. Like, I'm just like, and then don't do the show. Like, and it's just so great because I was the one that was in my car my whole life,
Starting point is 01:19:43 you know, and people being like. That's a success for you right now. I know, it's like, hey, there's a target across the street, you know, it's pretty pleasant, but it's true, it's just like, but most, but so that's, when people, and even in the beginning of it,
Starting point is 01:19:57 I would, I'd be like, okay, I'll come to this place, or I'll, you know, go to the, our office that we have, like, you know, from the network down. Now it's been like two and a half years since I've ever done that. Now I'm just like, whatever.
Starting point is 01:20:11 It just is. Is that shade, because I had to drive three hours to get here today? Not shade, I'm saying. I'm just kidding. I'm saying, I appreciate that you did. No, I appreciate that you did, but I'm also like, yeah, it is kind of a sign of,
Starting point is 01:20:24 it is a moment of success for an online audience. Of course, a country for this. I don't have to do that. I'm sure I'm the only thing that you came for. Yeah, that is really cool. Tell me about last story, tell me about the Jody sweeten thing. We can go about it. Jody, I mean, I think I, she was,
Starting point is 01:20:46 we go for people that I find interesting. People who I think will also be real and also speak. I don't give a shit about the character you play. Like tell me how you got the job. Like tell me, like I don't, I want to be, like I want to be like we're at a bar hanging out. And I also want you to talk like how it just be real. You know, like as you know,
Starting point is 01:21:04 because you do it on your podcast, it's like, when you watch live with Kelly, when you watch the today show, it's not a real interview. Like they're performing the light to rob, the script to the nose and the questions, the whole thing. So like us, it was like really just breaking down.
Starting point is 01:21:16 Where were you? How did you get the job? Also, how did you find out you were fired from the job? What was your contract like? But then also very curious about what it was like. Like how her relationship is, with the Olsen twins. And she's like, listen, and she's totally cool with it. We work together.
Starting point is 01:21:31 It was a long time ago, but then we just were cool. I don't have their phone number still. If I saw them, it would be totally fine. But I get it. They went on to do other stuff. They don't owe us anything. It was nice to hear her perspective on it. I think that's, I saw something funny the other day anything like it was just i think i think i think i think i think i think
Starting point is 01:21:45 funny the other day because uh... i guess it was maybe britney was on lawless show uh... britney cartwright married to jacks and someone asked like oh do you speak to the least of interpump anymore you know since she and jacks were like go from the show and she's like
Starting point is 01:22:03 something like no i mean i really wish you would have you know, since she and Jack's were like, go from the show. And she's like, something like, no, I mean, I really wish she would have, you know, stayed in touch. And the person that posted about it after said like, raise your hand if your boss who fired you, stayed in touch with you. And I was like, that's, that's really interesting, you know, it's like, yeah. I mean, their show ended, so it wasn't like,
Starting point is 01:22:21 and it wasn't like they were the bosses, but in any situation, like, you know, you might have worked at a Hogan Dust ice cream shop when you were 17 and now you're 30. Are you still keeping in touch with the people from your Saturday shift? Like, I mean, even though it's a show and tonight, this thing, though, for people that when you're a celebrity, they want to delve deeper into like, what happened? Why? You know, and it's like? Yeah, we got along when we saw each other all the time and after that You know or whatever even if you did really get along and you saw each other
Starting point is 01:22:58 You know three times a year and then I turned it to twice here then it's yeah, and I think now it's never You know the Olsen twins. They just became so successful. Yeah, so young They would kind of win in one direction and then you got Jody who still hangs out with Cameron, and still was hanging out with Bob Sagitt, and she was still hanging out with the other side, so I think everyone was always for this show. The Fuller House. Is that still happening? No, I think it picked up.
Starting point is 01:23:21 I think it was ran two seasons, but then it picked up. On Netflix. But here's a crazy part is where she's like, I'm still like, you think full house, which was definitely a successful show. No one could doubt that, but she's still like, I'm still trying to figure out how I'm gonna pay my bills, how I'm gonna get my kids through,
Starting point is 01:23:33 because she's like, I rent. Like, I don't own. She goes, I clip coupons like everyone else because the residual money from that show is not what you would expect. She goes, yeah, I still get a check. It's nothing that's going to keep me going in a, you know, this, an LA lifestyle. I have to keep working.
Starting point is 01:23:50 I have to keep pushing forward. And yes, I clipped coupons. I love that answer. Yeah, and I'm sorry if I am mixing up like 90s kid stars. Stuff you get, Stephanie. No, but did she have a drug issue? She did have a rough idea. Okay, so she did.
Starting point is 01:24:04 She did. Yeah, she could be wrong, but I think it was pretty hard. So in between the two, she struggled, got clean. no but did she have a drug issue she did have a rough idea yeah she could be wrong but i think it was between the two she struggled got clean and then they asked her back on the fuller yes she got her life together she is in a wonderful place in her life yes she's doing really good well you guys you're doing good ha ha ha
Starting point is 01:24:22 we will know we're doing good when we don't have to drive. Yeah, so true. Tell everybody where they can listen and follow you guys and all that stuff. You know, you can find out the Hollywood Rob podcast anywhere you obviously download podcasts. You can find us on social media at Hollywood Raw or on Instagram, and TikTok, and Facebook, and YouTube, and all the social media platforms. Yeah, you can find me at Adam Glingio. YN DAX Holt, HLT, Ron, and I'm still running around.
Starting point is 01:24:49 You want to see my videos? I got my own YouTube think-o, Adam's Apple. You know, I'm still running around chasing celebrity, so you see my celebrity content. I got Jeff Bezos the other day. I got, you know, like it's fun stuff. It's cool. How lucky is Lauren Sanchez. Oh, she loves it.
Starting point is 01:25:02 She loves the jujube. Did you know her when she was here? I met her a few times over the years. I mean, she was cool. I liked her, you know. Just score. How is she the chosen one, right? Well, because you got together as couples
Starting point is 01:25:16 and you got in there. She is, she seems pretty nice. She loves the attention. I can say that. She smiles, she came out. Bezos loves the attention. I can say that. She smiled, she came out. Bezos loves the attention as well. This is the second time I've been around him and he tell like he knows who he is.
Starting point is 01:25:31 His security, not as big as you might think. I've been around Elon Musk's security where he's got Navy seals. It's wild how Elon Musk travels. I mean, Elon Musk travels in, at least in New York City, he's in the cheapest Tesla, and then his other security car cars just to not bring attention They're driving like four toruses like around that then you're like they're following him
Starting point is 01:25:51 But you wouldn't even know their security and they race them in race him out wherever he goes But Bayesos was like I'm out like he you're like you said to the paparazzi like they're security at least said like this We're going to next like what about his glow up? Dude he's he's a monster dude. What is he doing? He's doing something Rossi, like they're securely said, like this is where we're going to next, like what about his glow up? Dude, he's ripped down. He's a monster dude. What is he doing? He's doing something.
Starting point is 01:26:09 I want to know whatever cocktail they're shooting at. Oh yeah. I mean, he looks good. I mean, he looks great. He looks good for him. He's solid. But he knows he gets it. And what's your status dating?
Starting point is 01:26:20 Wifed up. You're wiped up and are you? I've got a wife as well. We've been married for two years now. It's on its high school. Congrats to both of you. Thanks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:30 Don't go. Thank you. All right. You still want us to be a couple, don't you? You know, I do have to ask some stuff these things. But I think you would probably be more successful if you were, but it's OK. Yeah, that's all right. We'll take it.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Yeah. Thanks, you guys. Thank you for coming all the way to Woodland Hills. Thank you. All right. All right. Thanks. Thank you. Yeah, that's all right. Good luck, you.
Starting point is 01:26:44 We'll take it. Thanks, you guys. Thanks for coming. All the way to Woodland Hills. Thank you.

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