Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Kris Jenner On The Kardashian Men with Anna Roisman
Episode Date: February 13, 2024Kris Jenner played by the hilarious comedian Anna Roisman answers all of my questions. We find out why I really got the boot from her Christmas Eve Party and how she feels about the men past and prese...nt in her daughters’ lives. And Just Like That, Steve, Miranda’s ex from Sex and The City weighs in the firing of Che Diaz and what next season might look like. Let us never forget how weird it was and still is that Hilaria Baldwin still pretends to be Spanish. We learn about Anna’s career in stand up comedy and where she gets her inspiration for celebrity impressions. Get ready to laugh. Enjoy! Get 20% off @honeylove by going to https://www.honeylove.com/JUICY! #honeylovepod #sponsored Get 15% off OneSkin with the code JUICY at https://OneSkin.co #oneskinpod #sponsored Go to https://TheOuai.com and use promo code JUICY for 15% off any product Go to https://www.PeacockTV.com/the-traitors to watch Traitors Season 2, out now, only on Peacock! New episodes drop every Thursday at 9pm EST Shop Juicy Scoop Merch https://juicyscoopshop.com Get EXTRA Juicy on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop Follow Me on Social Media Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
I have returned guests, it's been a few years,
but you guys have been asking and begging for it.
You've wondered, are we still friends or is everything cool?
And we are Kris Jenner.
Welcome back to Juicy Scoop.
It's been a minute.
It's been a while.
Thanks, doll.
I am just so honored to be here.
You are doing fabulous, you know.
Thank you. You really are.
Thank you, thank you.
I mean, I had you on the show a few years ago,
one of my first years of doing the show,
and you were so supportive.
Oh yeah, I love doing small shows.
And you've grown since then.
I'm really, this is impressive, Heather.
I'm really proud of you, sweetie.
I really am.
Thank you.
A lot of people wondered why we got kicked off the Christmas card list.
I know I was six people deep with my mother-in-law and three kids.
Was that the reason it couldn't have been me?
It was my kids who got me kicked off, right?
You know, it's out of my control now.
My assistant just does the list and I just, some people get, you know, axed every year.
I mean, you had like 18 people one year.
That was a lot, okay.
Some people don't even talk to their in-laws
and you had all of them.
I do think that last year I was there with the final straw
and I think it was, and maybe you don't want a minute,
but you had a long red dress on.
Oh yeah, that was, wasn't that stunning.
I had a long red dress on.
So I don't think you loved that.
But then also Caitlin came in a long red dress.
And the three of us were wearing long red dresses.
And then after that, I never was invited back.
Also my mother-in-law fell,
which is of course a scary lawsuit, what even happened.
I blame Caitlin for that one.
Okay.
She spilled her champagne and then,
and that's why that happened.
Probably. Yeah, absolutely. But you are doing
so wonderful. Now are you as terrified of North your granddaughter as the rest of us?
Absolutely not. She's an angel, you know. She's not an insult comic. Oh, well, I think she has a real,
I think she really has a career ahead of her as a rapper, as an artist, you know, she's gonna take over Skims one day.
I mean, we're really working hard with Northy.
So I think she is just a star doll, you know?
She's doing amazing, sweetie.
And when you see that Travis Scott no longer with Kylie
and Kanye West no longer with Kim.
Absolutely.
Brought the world to their knees
at the show in Orlando when they brought out Kanye, I mean chills, people freaking out.
And you see those two former quote unquote son-in-laws. Do you think it's that they have
billion dollar baby mamas, Kardashians that made them so successful today?
Well, I think they're very talented too.
I want you to know I still have lunch
with all of my kids' exes.
I really, I- I know you do.
I keep in touch.
I saw Kanye on Tuesday and you know,
even though yes, I think Kimberly definitely
lifted up his career.
I mean, she's Kimberly, of course.
She's lifted us all up.
But I think that they, you know,
I think there's stars on their own.
I think there's a place for all of us.
And I think that I am just here to support them,
even if they've done some pretty shitty things to my kids.
How do you feel about Bianca, his wife?
Could you ever see her being invited
to one of the Christmas parties now that there's space,
being that I'm not going?
Maybe if she gets some clothing, you know,
I've never seen her wear anything, but a pair of stockings.
So I feel like, you know, maybe if we get her dressed,
she could show up one year,
but I don't know if that would make my kids so happy.
And you know, I really do everything for the kids.
You know, 26 companies later, here we are doll.
I mean, you really are.
Yeah.
Now, when you realized that Jeff Bezos had a new girlfriend
and her name was Lauren Sanchez,
how quickly did you start DMing her
and getting into that best friend mode of yours
because you're every girl's best friend if you allow it.
Thank you.
I mean, you're my best friend too.
Oh, we are your still best friends. Absolutely. Yeah, you're my best friend too. Oh, we are your best friends.
Absolutely.
Yeah, you're on the list of the girls' best friends,
just maybe not the holiday party.
Some people, you know, around the holiday season,
they act out and not saying you did,
but something must have happened because,
yeah, I haven't seen you there.
No, Lauren and I, you know, Lauren and I met.
We got, I got a manicure one day and she popped in
and I was just like, what a coincidence.
I didn't, I don't even know how it happened.
You know, sometimes I'm like a magnet, you know,
people come to me and I just, I let the love flow.
I really do.
Well, I, I so appreciate you.
Oh, thank you.
Chris and yeah, let's,
Corey wants an autograph.
He's a huge fan of Juicy Scoop.
He really, he would love for you to sign.
He really said, have her sign your tits.
And I said, Corey, I'm sorry.
Well, I ran into Corey.
Oh my God.
At the, at a Laker game recently,
he was wearing his Dolce and Gabbana satin leisure wear.
How did that deal come about? Well, you know, I'm very close with Domenico Dolce and Gabbana, sat in leisure wear. How did that deal come about?
Well, you know, I'm very close with Domenico Dolce,
and he said, we got to do something out of the box.
And I said, no one would ever expect Corey to have his own line.
And so we just came up with, you know, we said,
what do you want to wear?
And he said something comfortable.
And that was really the inspiration, comfort.
And I love that it's always paired with a diamond necklaces.
I think that is really a signature look for him.
Absolutely.
I mean, Cartier, I wish,
I think they want to dress him all the time.
Cory's really the most successful of my family these days.
It's wild.
Amazing.
And what is going on with Scott? Because his ex-girlfriend, Sophia
Richie, got married, she's expecting a baby. Where does his love life land today? Well, Scott's in
the back of my car right now. He's on Tinder. He's sitting there just swiping away. You know,
I am always there for Scott. He goes, he has ups and downs. He really does.
But at the end of the day, he has given me
three beautiful grandchildren and I will always support him.
And I think this Sophia stuff is really, it's really,
you know, it got to him, but he always powers through.
I mean, look at Courtney.
She basically buried him, you know, with Travis.
But Scott is a strong Jewish man
and we love him for it.
Do you think there's this real special bond,
real fun friendship between Chloe and Scott?
Oh yeah.
Do you think there is a future,
any future of them ever being romantic?
And if there was, would you support it
to go a second round with him
officially in your life as a son-in-law? Scott will always be my son-in-law. I don't,
so absolutely. I think Chloe, Chloe needs to get out there, you know? She's my girl. I mean,
Chloe is amazing. And she's such a good mother. And I really believe that if Chloe and Scott got together,
I don't know, it could be magical.
I think they could really have a future together.
I'm all for it.
It'd be a little weird,
because they're like brother and sister,
but who cares, who gives a shit?
It's 2024, right?
If you wanna have sex with someone that's brotherly to you,
I say go for it all.
I mean, who cares, you know?
Have fun. I did you. Well, thank you so much for stopping by, Chris. Thank you. I mean, who cares, you know? Have fun.
I did you.
Well, thank you so much for stopping by, Chris.
Thank you.
I really appreciate it.
Thank you.
I'm glad I could squeeze it in.
I really am.
I'm so busy.
Wow.
Now here comes the secret portion.
That was not the real Kris Jenner, everybody.
That is comedian, impressionist, funny lady extraordinaire,
Anna Royceman, welcome to Juicy Scoop.
Thank you.
Oh my God, I'm so honored.
I don't know what a cold open we had.
I'm so happy that you're here.
It's amazing.
Found you on TikTok, followed you, love all the funny.
You many different characters will get into many of them.
Chris is probably, well, she's maybe
your most famous, famous person that you do.
So it's always fun to do her.
When did you start doing her?
How did it come about?
Honestly, not that long ago.
And I feel like it's funny now when I laugh,
I'm like, oh my God, I don't know how to laugh as me anymore
because I've laughed as her for an entire year.
I've only been doing her for like a year,
like a little more than a year, which isn't that long.
I think she's gotten better.
I look at the first few ones and I'm like,
ugh, like you had nothing, but I don't know.
I love doing her.
I started doing her because I work with Andrea Lopez
who you had on and we have a podcast together,
Big Wigs where we literally wear wigs and do this.
And so when she was doing Courtney a lot and we were a podcast together, Big Wigs, where we literally wear wigs and do this. And so when she was doing Courtney a lot
and we were working together,
we were making videos together
and I was like, I gotta pick one of them in the family.
Like who do I resonate with?
Obviously Chris, like she's my queen.
So I was like, I'm gonna do Chris.
And I don't know, I just started to,
I had all the clothes, that was easy.
Yeah.
And I think when you, what is your comedy background?
Well, I've done stand up for like the last 10 years.
So that's what I've done before that.
I mean, I did like improv at UCB.
I did all the classes.
So were you someone that did impressions like in the beginning of your career or
as a kid?
Yeah.
Would you imitate people?
Yeah, all the time.
And I would do YouTube videos like back in the day of like, you know, people said
I looked like Sarah Silverman,
probably because I'm a brunette Jew and did comedy.
So they were like, you know, you look like, like,
I've met her, I'm like, we don't really look like a person,
but I could see it.
And so I started doing her.
I thought it would help if it was people I looked like.
So I would do like her or Leah Michelle
or I used to do Courtney Kardashian or like any brunette,
I guess.
Can you do Sarah off the bat?
I mean, I'm not going to tell you that my podcast is more successful, but it's like really,
I've really been taking off lately with a lot of my callers, you know, I've been really feeling
just like, oh my God, I'm finally in the swing of things, you know, but I don't know.
Sometimes when I'm super stoned,
it's like I don't really give a shit anymore about it.
That's great.
I haven't done it in a while.
I don't know.
I think that's, no, I think it's good.
What it's, what's fun about doing certain people is,
and we talked about this on the phone is like,
a lot, you know, people can do impressions and some people might have a stronger voice or whatever, but what I like
about you and, you know, other people that, that I, when they do the impressions and myself
is, is, it's about getting in the improv and going with the point of view and the cadence
of that person, of what that person would say in that situation, which then makes the impressionist who's also a writer,
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who can do an impression.
Yeah, yeah.
If you change it, if you go to the next level with it,
I always like those so much more than someone I'm like,
well, they just did exactly what I saw the real person do,
which is cool, but give me more.
Give me a joke.
Yeah, like when we just did the Chris,
you didn't know what I was gonna ask Chris or anything. you didn't know what I was gonna ask Chris, right?
I didn't know what I was gonna ask Chris.
And you went deep, she's bringing up Travis Scott.
I'm like, oh, she's going for it.
You're bringing in all the ex family members.
I'm like, all right, Anna, how well are you?
I mean, I watched all the Kardashians.
But I was like, here we go.
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Okay, so we were just, before you came in,
we were talking about the scandal that happened
on SNL last week, which was J-Lo was the musical guest,
and what's the girl's name that won the Emmy?
I.O. A Debris.
Yes, and I never knew who she was.
I don't watch The Bear.
I saw that she won several awards for it.
I am gonna watch The Bear.
Obviously she's a really talented, comedic actress.
And so apparently,
Bottoms was really funny too, if you wanna see that.
She's in that movie. Oh, okay. Yeah bottoms. Okay, and
So I can't remember who it was it was somebody to follow it was they got it TMZ got it from this person
So I apologize for who decided to put out the old podcast that she did
Yeah, where she was talking with her co-host or she was a guest or something and And they were ripping on the fact that they think that J.Lo is an awful singer
and never really could sing. And they're talking shit.
And then, lo and behold, a couple years later, she's an every winner
and she's hosting SNL with the person.
I think this was such a great moment, honestly, in pop culture history,
because I constantly say,
I've had episodes where I call it, I heard what you said about me on your podcast because
everybody has a podcast.
And I've noticed with certain guests that are funny, that are on their way up, they
are smart.
And they'll be like, Heather, don't ask me about this, don't ask me that, you know, because
I might be working across with them.
I know, by the way, I just said across,
and everyone, that bothers people too,
there's no T at the end of across.
I don't know, thank you,
but I'm going across the street.
Anyway, so, but I, there was a time when I cared,
and then there was a time when I realized,
what the fuck is the chances?
Right.
And I would rather be, for me,
I'd rather build the authenticity of Juicy Scoop
to the level it is, but I'm not a young person.
I've got nothing to lose.
I personally have nothing to lose,
and I love talking the truth of what I feel.
But I do think this is a good lesson to other people
that if you're going to have a podcast,
if you're gonna do it on Instagram
and you're really pursuing this,
maybe think about it twice
because you actually might be in this situation.
It's so funny though,
like I think if I was in this situation
because I go on a lot of podcasts and I talk,
I talk on my stories all day long and everything is saved,
anyone can screagrab anything you do out on the internet.
But I'm like, would I ever be working side by side with JLo?
She just seems like such another level to me
that I imagine I was like, I'm not gonna work with JLo.
I'm doing comedy in New York. She used to do stand up in New York and I knew her then. And I'm like, I'm not gonna like work with JLo. I'm doing comedy in New York.
She used to do like stand up in New York and I knew her then.
And I'm like, so I think it's so funny.
I'm like, wow, you blew up so big that someone found like a little clip of you
being like, I don't think JLo can sing.
And you're literally hosting with her as the musical gets like, but, but I will.
But I will say it all my times of being on Chelsea and my own thing and Instagram and stuff,
I have done impressions of people
and I have talked about them,
but I definitely have never said that about J-Lo.
Yeah, I think impressions is flattering.
I have seen videos that may be kind of, wonder.
I did think her latest video just seemed weird.
Yeah, I think we all laughed.
The dancing, have you seen the latest video?
I haven't, no.
Where she's wearing a bunch of bride dresses.
Mm-mm.
You know, I can't get enough of, I can't get enough.
It's like a really weird dance.
It's like the dancing is kind of weird.
And I will say that, it's a little bit weird,
but I still love, I always say, I love her look,
I love her performing and. But she's a dancer first, so I'm like, that's strange, that love her look, I love her performing. And, but she's a dancer first.
So I'm like, that's strange.
That's what you took away from me.
That the dancing was weird.
That I was like this weird like dancing
that she's doing, but.
That's funny.
Yeah, I do think that's kind of like full for some people.
If I, if I was a manager and I had clients
that like everybody were going on Instagram or whatever, I would be like,
listen, don't do the TikTok where you tell all about how you waited on Matthew McConaughey and
he was a dick. Let's not do that. What are you going to gain from it? I think people need to
think, what will I gain from going after somebody in a nasty way that's
a celebrity that, like I feel that was sort of like a gotcha moment and I think that's
why people remembered it because it was so harsh.
Like as much as I've talked about J-Lo, I've never said that.
Because I kind of felt like, well, don't we all know that?
Right.
Don't we all know that like songs are enhanced and didn't we all know that this wasn't all her own hair
and like didn't you know,
don't we know that she uses a bronzer
and but still great body, still beautiful face.
Don't I pick a bring in a photo to my hairstylist?
I'm like, can you make, can you do that?
Can you just J-Lo me?
Like that's me.
That's I'm like, here do it. I don't care.
And then I think JLo is smart to just be like,
have to be cool about it.
Otherwise you look like the old bitchy auntie, you know?
And nobody wants to be that.
When the girl is like 30 years younger than you,
you have to be like, oh gosh.
She's such a funny cat.
I wish we could have seen them backstage.
I just want to see them like hug and like do it. And like be like, Oh gosh, she's such a funny cat. I wish we could have seen them backstage.
I just wanna see them hug and do it and be like.
I think she was probably like,
who cares, this is only gonna bring anything that,
I feel like there is a time where I would say,
I just don't understand why JLo just can't relax.
Why is she doing the same shit
that a 25 year old influencer has to do on
Instagram? You know what I mean? Like really she needs the alcohol, um, Delano or whatever
it is now. Like now. Like there is no way she's not worth like several hundred million dollars.
Yeah. And I was just kind of like, well, you never really drank, your husband's an alcoholic.
Like I don't know of all the things to choose from.
Yeah.
But I feel like it's like, she's like, no, I've got it.
I've got to have it.
I've got to have what I like.
There's something about her wanting to stay really relevant.
So I don't even think she mined.
I think she didn't mind this at all because she's like,
It brings press to everything.
Yeah, this brings press and it makes me feel cool.
But then I did see her singing in the pink outfit.
There were people like miming the pink outfit.
Did you see?
It was like, I was like,
like I almost think I would change up the song.
Like if this all came out, I would be like,
oh my God, just do Jenny from the block.
Like I don't wanna do this like ballad right now.
I feel too self-conscious about doing this ballad.
It's weird to do a ballad also on SNL I think.
It's not the right mood.
People, it's a comedy show.
I don't know.
So that was amazing.
Now let's talk about, and just like that,
because you do a great Steve.
Thank you.
Wow, thanks.
Chris Frangela is a man on my show.
He often does a really good Steve too,
so we've done a lot of impressions about where the show would go.
I have been obsessed with predicting storylines.
Okay.
And so, let's do one with Steve.
And I don't really do anybody that good.
Wait, you know what?
I'm gonna do Samantha.
Great.
Samantha's gonna come back.
As she should.
That's the storyline. I hope you always... I'm gonna do Samantha. Great. Samantha's gonna come back. As she should.
That's the storyline.
I hope you always...
I'm gonna come back as Samantha.
Now I haven't done her a long time.
I'm gonna run into Steve and you're gonna kind of fill me in
and I'm gonna just say what I've heard from the girls
since I've been gone.
Okay. Okay.
Okay, just like that.
Steve!
It's Samantha.
Samantha Jones. It's been a minute. I've been living in London.
Samantha? Oh my god! You know, I haven't even heard of you in a while. You know, you haven't even been around the block, huh? You know. I've been in Brooklyn.
I know! Steve, tell me it isn't true that you and Miranda are no longer together. Miranda?
Well, she's always the love of my life, but you know, Miranda and I, we've gone through
some troubles lately, you know, with this Chay Diaz.
I don't know if you heard about Chay Diaz, they got a podcast, you maybe heard it.
Well, listen, darling, I'm no stranger to fingering a friend here and there. But to leave your husband and small redhead child
for Che DS?
Yeah.
I was absolutely shocked.
Who knew Miranda couldn't put an IKEA cabinet together
but could do a Strapod.
Good for her, darling.
Have you tried to have her peg you?
You know, I told her I you know
I she said that she really liked how she was fingering her and I said yeah I
got better you know I got better at fingering I've been I've been working
with fruits I've been you know I've been hanging out with the boys playing a
couple of three-on-three games and I but I said you know I gotta get better
better at this stuff I haven't done you know pegging's, I don't know about that stuff, you know?
Why did you start a restaurant that nobody's gonna go to?
In County Island.
It's gonna be fantastic, you know?
The summer time.
Do they serve Cosmos there?
Those get me so horny.
I just slide off my seat.
I get so wet down there.
You know, wow, Samantha, that's a lot of information for me.
If you come to my restaurant slash bar, I'll make sure you got a great
Cosmo. Okay. I will. My, you know, my kid's going to be barbacking. You know,
he's old now, so he can make a Cosmo. I'll teach him how to do it. You know,
as long as he's over 18, I'll be there. Oh my God.
Don't bone my son, Samantha.
That's not where we thought this would go.
Well, there's still not many left in Manhattan.
You know, I ran that town, ran it through London, and now I'm going to run it through
your son.
And I heard that...
Miranda?
Oh my God.
I thought it was her behind you.
It's just a red dress.
You never know. You never know.
You never know.
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two traders are now there's just two of them since Dan got the boot and Alan, the host
comes in and is like, little twist, you could recruit somebody if you want,
but they can also turn it down.
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He's our biggest enemy.
Peter the pilot is on to us.
He gets a letter saying, do you want to join the traders or not?
He says, no.
So they're like, oh darn, that means they can't kill anybody.
So they go to breakfast, Parvati and Fedra're like, oh darn, that means they can't kill anybody. So they go to breakfast,
Parvati and Federer are like, what?
Acting all surprised, cause they're the two traders
and they realize the whole group's there
and they're like, wait, nobody was murdered last night?
No, someone was offered to join the traders
and we don't know who it is or what they did.
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They stand around this fireplace
and they said, instead of their normal round table,
we're going to give people an opportunity
to save each other.
So the two people that have the shield,
who do you wanna save?
They said, Shirei.
And then they go, Shirei, you can save someone.
And she goes and
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Housewives are Bravo people. I don't believe it, but in this case, it proved to be true.
Phaedra starts crying. I can't believe she did this, she's so great, she gets saved.
She doesn't go, she doesn't save Parvati, no.
She goes and saves, who does she save?
She saves CT, which was kind of weird,
but it's a strategic move.
Then he saves John and then John saves Peter.
So Peter the pilot cannot be killed.
And meanwhile, Phaedra and Parvati meet
and now Phaedra's like, you are acting too,
you're showing your colors too much,
that they're kind of like not as cohesive.
And Parvati's like, okay, fine.
So at this point, they can only,
they can only kill either Kate, MJ, Berge and Trishelle.
And I think it's gonna be MJ, but I don't know.
I think it's gonna be her, because she's like,
they basically said no one's suspecting her.
But I actually, I think it'll be MJ,
I would get rid of Kate
because I think she's a stronger player.
But that's what's so fun about the show
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There are rumors that she might be coming back.
I would die.
If that happened, like I feel like I'd just like pass out on my floor.
I just feel like the other like secondary character, like the professor, who are the other girls?
The professor, the Nicole Parker and Seema who's like a version of her. secondary character like the professor who are the other girls the professor the
Parker and seema who's like
A version of her. Yeah
Well seema if she comes back seema should know that she's gone. Oh if samantha comes back
We don't need two of them. They turned her into samantha and I think she's really good
I thought this season they made her even more samantha ye than they needed to. Yeah, it was like the same story lines. Yeah.
But how do you feel as yourself about Shadia's leaving the show?
I feel conflicted.
So do I.
I really do.
I ended up liking her.
Yeah.
Sorry, they.
I ended up liking, no, that one was right then.
I ended up liking then the character,
what the character was going through,
more than the rest of the people.
Because I don't know, maybe because Shay's character
was a stand up, yeah, because it was like,
she was the stand up, the pilot didn't go,
then they wanted, you know, and then all,
Shay, the pilot doesn't go, and then all of a sudden she can't even live in her apartment
and she has to like work as like a vets assistant.
She's living at like her Oboela's basement.
And I'm like, oh my God, like I want how invested in Chase.
Over and over, the writers of, and just like that
are so jealous of other writers who have gotten out
of the sitcom writing game and were successful
podcasters and they're like, we're going to shit on podcasting so bad because when they
were like, oh, you didn't want to do the one ad about dry vaginas. Well, the whole network
shut down. Yeah. What the hell? You know what also really bothered me? This is a minor thing.
What?
Do you remember when Bobby Lee, who was the partner of?
Who's famously my mom's favorite character on the show.
I go, mommy, that's like two lines.
I love that guy.
I'm like, what?
Do you remember Bobby Lee had sex
with the podcast manager woman who was wheelchair bound?
Yeah. Do you remember she rolled in pregnant?
In the second seat, like, oh my God.
No, I never addressed it at all.
And then all of a sudden he was married to the stylist.
Wow, that's gonna, there's so many weird storylines
that they just like
dropped and like forgot about it and thought that we would forget and we did except for
me.
Well, we also, my boyfriend and I always, I made him watch every second of that show
and he was like, I can't believe, he even said this the other day because we saw the
actress who, oh, we saw her at a coffee shop,
the actress who played like Carrie's neighbor,
you know, who she gives, he's like,
I can't believe he gave that girl the apartment
when Miranda's sleeping on like,
pull out couch at her ex, J.D.S.
and she's like, her best friend, like, hello.
And she gives her a huge discount.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because the jewelry was stolen to some girl
that's obviously privileged
because she's living in the apartment anyway and also had the money to buy it. Yeah. Because the jewelry was stolen to some girl that's obviously privileged because she's
living in the apartment anyway and also had the money to buy it.
So she's just some like trust fund person that got to be a jewelry designer.
I know and it doesn't think about Miranda who's like living dorm life at 52 or 55.
Yeah, you're right.
It was weird because Carrie went to her on New Years.
They have a whole history.
I'm like, oh, I know, you know what,
also was really worried about that Carrie's like,
well, sorry for my final dinner, I'm going to invite Che.
Cause Che is my friend too.
But you know what, I kind of, you know what,
I take it back.
I'm gonna miss Che.
I kind of, I thought it was, Carrie was in a weird position
because A, she was Che's friends first
when they worked on the podcast.
And then-
And then when Miranda was coming to take care of her
is when she and Che fell in love.
But then when they broke up,
I kind of was like, she wasn't your friend for that long.
And the podcast is dead.
And also-
Now it's time-
They fucked in your kitchen.
And now it's time to like choose your friend of 35 years
over Che, who let's be honest,
how much do you have in common with anyway?
Right, you know.
They did have those weird,
there were like two weird scenes, remember?
It was like where Carrie had to do the speaking
and like Che was like the joke writer
and all of a sudden Che Diaz is like the most important
character of the episode.
I was like, where did this come from?
And also I'm like, wait a minute,
Carrie has had, was a funny girl from the start.
She was always cracking jokes, always doing puns,
wrote the blog, wrote the thing in the paper,
written multiple books about sex.
And then, she's like, so, ever masturbate?
And she's like, oh, I don't know if I'm comfortable.
It might be because I'm of a different generation than you.
Oh, oh, which I do.
$20 for shoes.
Oh yes.
This is so weird.
She's gonna dump her and be like,
I'm moving to Hollywood bitches, I booked a pilot.
I was like, I love how this works.
I made my sons watch it,
and they ended up liking Che the best as well,
because they felt the other storylines were boring.
They didn't care about the Nicole Parker,
Rich Family and the Mean Mother-in-law.
They didn't care about the professors
trying to have-
Breaking up with her husband.
Who else was there?
SEMA trying to get laid.
Like, yeah, dating some real estate guy,
like smoking all the time.
Yeah.
No, it's true.
I'm gonna miss you with the smoking.
At first I laughed.
I was like, oh yeah, they really fired Chadias.
Chadias is that show.
Like everybody watched because of Chadias.
I feel like it was like a cultural moment
and now we just don't have that.
It was hate watch that then took over.
Like I'm actually really upset about it.
Yeah.
Okay, well let's move on.
We could go on and on for Chase.
I love that you do Bethany Frankel.
Thank you.
And I wanna know when did you start getting obsessed?
Was it her TikTok?
Was it her makeup reviews or her eating reviews?
What is it?
The food for me.
I was like, you know, they were just, she posts,
I don't, is she a robot?
I don't even know if she's real, I've never met her,
but like she posts seven TikToks a day.
I don't know anyone.
And then deletes a lot of them.
Posting as much as her.
I know.
Yeah, like I don't know.
Then realizes it's wrong and then deletes it.
And it is amazing.
I have been blocked, I'm pretty sure.
So I will miss these moments and then I'll see your.
You gotta get a burger account.
Then I'll see your eating the bagel or whatever.
And I love it.
I just think she's so unhinged.
The filming is terrible.
It's honestly the easiest impression to do
because I could like drop my phone and people will think she's so unhinged. The filming is terrible. It's honestly the easiest impression to do because I could like drop my phone
and people will think it's intentional.
Like I'm like, this is sick.
I'm just gonna eat my sunglasses.
These sunglasses are sick.
It's insane.
And like the S's and like,
I don't know she just goes off and I love it.
And she likes it too.
She keeps posts, she'll post my stuff,
which I'm always like, oh, she does.
She likes it.
She likes it.
She did a highlight reel.
You know she has like a team of 10 social media people
working for her.
She did like highlight reels of all the people
who do impressions of her.
Yeah, I know Hannah did one early on.
Hannah Burner, yes.
And Andrea did one and there were a couple others.
And she like, I'm like, oh wow, we made it
to the highlight reel.
Hannah and Andrea and I were like texting.
My favorite is, and I don't do the great New Yorkie voice
of hers, but what I loved was when she was obsessed,
talking about the reality reckoning,
and that she would use like football references
that made no sense, where she was like, it's a game,
it's a game, and you've got six people against seven.
And you know what, you're to take it to the end zone.
And if you miss that pun kick, don't come crying to me because it's
kill or be killed.
And don't know it's about popcorn or big hot dog up your asshole, but
Annie's going to put it there and you're going to accept it.
And when you shed it out, don't come crying to me.
And you're like, what the fuck is this?
Like, like it's these.
In the zone. I'm Tom Brady and like it was like it's these. Yeah, in the zone.
I'm Tom Brady and this is the fucking news.
Okay. Yeah.
You may not like the patriots.
Don't hate me.
I still went to the Super Bowl 18 times.
I have a bunch of rings.
You're jealous.
Guess what?
This ring could make a crown and I could shove it up your asshole.
Who's dick do I need to suck to make you realize
that Andy Cohen is an asshole?
And I'm just like, oh my God.
Oh my God.
Someone needs to AI like Bethany do.
Do you remember what she had?
Do you remember what she had?
Tom Brady.
Do you remember when she had the show
with Frederick the realtor?
Vaguely.
What was it called?
First of all, for the most successful person
that's ever walked on her,
I mean, she's so Donald Trump in talking about her own successes.
It's literally the same.
It's like, and she...
I discovered her later. I didn't watch her on Housewives.
Okay, well, she had a show with Frederick who is, I think,
I can't remember what, he's foreign, but he's like, he's not English.
He's like South African or something. Anyway, he's this good-looking guy and he's gay and now he's he's foreign, but I can't he's like not English. He's like South Africa or something anyway.
He's this good looking guy and he's gay and now he's married with two kids,
but he was on a million dollar listing New York and then went to LA.
Okay.
At some point they met and had a gay man rich up upper West Side love relationship
where she thinks that she's special to him and she's just one of many.
Okay.
But she doesn't realize that.
So she thinks they're best friends.
And they decide, let's have a show together.
We're gonna flip houses together one season.
And it was, both of them were so used to doing rally TV
that you know that they walked into a unit.
And it was like, how quickly can we get out of here
and get the shot that we're required to do
to get this fucking dumb show done?
Oh my god.
So every episode was for walking around,
going like, getting in a bathtub and being like,
who wants to go down on me for this bathtub?
Like every little thing was like, she's like,
who's dick do I need to suck to get an offer in it today? Oh my god, I'm dying. I'm dying right now. This is what we're going to
do. I'm not dying. And it was like, and then boom, next thing. And so what happened was,
they have some deal go bad. And she goes on camera and is like all pissed at him,
telling the world that he didn't like communicate properly as her realtor.
And then she was like, you're a snake oil man or something.
Snake oil, your snakes, what is it?
It's a snake oil salesman.
Okay.
You're a snake oil salesman.
Is that right?
You're an oil salesman or a snake oil salesman?
She called him something that I'm like, I don't think a realtor wants to be called that.
And so then that's what ended in the show.
I don't think anyone was watching either,
but it was just like, you know, but it was constantly.
Bethany in the zeitgeist.
Yeah, it was constantly like the dirty,
like the dirty stuff that she would say to like be shocking.
Like, oh, Bethany, you know, like she's so,
this is the girl who peed on a stick
when she found out she, you know, on camera.
The first person to pee on a stick, you know, she's, she's like, I was the
first one who showed that I was pregnant on camera.
I didn't know I was pregnant.
Yeah, right.
And I, I had the cameras come as I squatted, I peed on it.
And I was like, Oh my God, this.
The best is she can really make a video or a moment out of nothing.
Like, it's, it's a skill.
The other thing that is amazing is all the bad acting.
When you go back, like there's like old house. There's a skill. The other thing that is amazing is all the bad acting when you go back.
Like, there's a scene.
Yeah, in the old house, there's a scene
where her assistant is like, it's so bad.
She goes, oh, wow.
This isn't good.
What?
What?
Tell me.
Tell me what's going on.
Tell me what's going on.
The hair.
Have you heard of Perez Hilton?
She's like, yeah, he's just like a,
I don't know, he's like a TMZ, but he's like some guy, why?
Why?
What's going on?
I don't know if I can tell you this, Bethany.
On, he just posted that you're pregnant.
Are you fucking kidding me?
How would he know that?
Nobody knows that I'm pregnant.
This is not even three months yet.
This is really, really bad.
How did Perez-Helchard know that I was pregnant?
This is just settled down.
It's okay, Bethany, we can fix this.
No, we can't fix it.
The world can't know I'm pregnant yet.
I wanted to have one private moment.
This is fucking bullshit.
I hate that asshole.
I'm like, if you're telling me,
you deserve an Emmy for this. If you're telling me, you deserve an Emmy for this.
If you're telling me this whole scene, that Bethany did not have a
conversation with Perez Hilton about posting this and having it go up and
telling her assistant act like you're surprised the cameras are here with
Bethany ever after or whatever the first thing was where she gets it is such bad acting
And so that's why I have to go watch this
The acting is horrific
Horrific and but I'm obsessed with it. I'm also obsessed with the fact that
She did a movie that I was offered a pardon. She's in a movie like acting
That is where Ramona goes.
Well, you know what, Bethany?
I really think, I really think you should tell your daughter
that you did some immunity.
That's right, don't you have a daughter?
Don't you have a daughter?
Did you do a naked movie?
When you show up in boobs?
And then that's when Bethany's like, mention it all.
And that's where she like does her legs.
Mention it all, because they're filming.
No, the story was I was trying to get, you know,
trying to make it and I went to the drama log,
which basically, I mean, I don't even,
worse in Craigslist, worse in anything
that could ever happen to a human.
Basically today's dark web,
but you could get it on a new standard.
I go and I do this awful thing where they put a frog head on me
and I had to roller skate in this Silmar reservoir.
But I was so desperate to get any tape,
I was told, you know, there's no small parts.
Sure.
Anyway, we're driving home from Silmar
and the guy throws me the script and he goes,
would you like to be in this?
These doctors are investing in this movie
and you can give your partner this.
Well, I start reading it and there's this scene
where the girl, one girl, they're laying out
and the girl is like,
oh, would you like some suntan lotion or something?
And then she goes and like puts it on her chest.
The girl's like, I'm not into doing this.
And then the other character's like,
whoa, what's the big deal?
You know, okay, anyway.
This is like a dare scene.
So I was always like, oh, I think this is porn or whatever.
And then the person's like, oh, shut up. you think like Michelle Pfeiffer hasn't done porn. I was like, well, I don't know if she has done it or not. But I'm like, I'm not going to like be on the streets if I don't do this.
Right. I did go to college and I have a family and I don't think I want to do this suntan lotion scene. Anyway, this, this web, this Instagram account called ceFail. They just pull up everything.
They're just like a Bethany.
And all of a sudden I see the movie scene.
And she did it.
She did the scene.
She did the scene.
You guys are up for the same part.
And it's just a cheesy thing
and it's not overly sexual or nudy,
but maybe like maybe she showed her boobs in it
or something like who cares.
But that was the movie. And we were like maybe she showed her boobs in it or something like who cares but that was the movie and we were
We were like I knew her from LA like
Like I even think she took like growlings class like we ran each
I had her number from like meeting her at this place called Rebecca's like we did know each other and we're like the same age
so
Anyway, I find that just so that's amazing. Okay, so let's do a little, Bethany
has just discovered a new salad in the Hamptons.
Oh, okay.
This salad is insane.
Have you had this salad?
Have you had this lobster cob salad?
I never had lobster cob.
I mean, I feel like I eat lobster and I eat you know
I lobster with caviar lobster with drawn butter, but like on a cob salad like who knew you could elevate this shit to the
Next level this salad is so at the level. I am I mean I'm obsessed
I'm obsessed with this out. Is it fifty eight dollars Yes, absolutely. Worth every frickin' penny.
I'm gonna get another one from my daughter.
I'm gonna go on from Brynn.
She's gonna take it to school tomorrow.
Lobster Cobb, she's gonna love it.
She, you know, we're over-trader chose.
We're only doing lobster cob salads for lunch now.
Can I just ask you a quick, do you have a fish allergy
or not, Bethany?
You know, sometimes I do.
You know, one time I blew up when I had catfish who the hell eats catfish, huh?
What are you what are it South Carolina? No, this is East Hampton. Okay lobster. I'm fine with I
Cannot eat catfish in South Carolina if you know what I mean, okay the people there, you know
I don't know I don't know comes from there, but I had an allergic reaction. Okay, that's all I'm gonna say come at me, bro
Come for me. You want to fight me? Yeah, come for me come for reaction. Okay, that's all I'm gonna say. Come at me, bro.
Come for me, you wanna fight me?
Come for me.
Come for me, she gets so-
Dare you, dare you.
You guys are gonna hate this,
but I'm gonna eat lobster cob salad,
I'm gonna put peanut butter on it.
You wanna come for me?
I don't give a shit.
I'm over it.
It's always the challenges of like,
like, you know what I'm gonna do?
I'm gonna put cream cheese on peanut butter
and I'm gonna mix it with a chocolate fudge sauce
and a truffle salt and you can go fuck yourselves
if you're not gonna eat this up your throat.
Like, Jesus.
You know what she did yesterday or like two days ago
and I saw it and I was like, is she challenging me?
I think she's like daring me at some, she goes,
she goes, I just want a light snack, little protein snack.
She's like, I'm gonna take a slice of turkey,
deli meat turkey, and I'm gonna take this tuna salad,
I'm gonna fill the turkey with the tuna salad,
and then do a turkey roll up.
And I was like, she's putting tuna in a piece of turkey
and she takes a bite, she's like,
I love when she takes a bite and she closes her eyes
and she's like, mm, mm. Oh, you know when she takes a bite, she's like, I love when she takes a bite and she closed her eyes and she's like, mm, mm.
Oh, you know when she started that word,
Varun, what does she call it?
Davun.
Davun?
And she tried to like make it her own,
but I guess it was like in Greece or something?
Davun, I don't know.
Was it?
Oh yes, somebody pulled it up and it was like,
it was like in the movie Greece.
It's Davun, like by one of the like goofy characters.
I can't believe I didn't know that.
I only watched Greece for like the first 15 years of my life.
And she kept thinking like, it was like,
don't make a fetch happen.
Like she kept trying to think like we would start
using the word Davoon, but nobody did.
I love that.
I have a list in my phone that I keep of just Bethany words,
like Benunza, insane, Davoon at the level.
Like just like whatever she says,
that's how I just have a list. And then I like have fun with it. I don't write those. Noonza, insane, de-voon, at the level. Like just like whatever she says,
that's how I just want to list.
And then I like have fun with it.
I don't write those.
But you know what?
God bless Bethany because she does give us entertainment.
It's, I can't stop.
But I do wonder with certain people,
like do you ever watch Real Housewives of Osea?
No.
Okay, well there's a girl, woman, Shannon Bedore.
Shannon Storms Bedore.
She's since it since gotten divorced.
OK.
But Bador was her maiden name.
And I think she almost, I think,
especially with reality stars, they can almost
become a caricature of themselves.
Oh, yeah.
And especially if they see people.
And also, I think the producers would say to her now,
say your full name, because she'd be like,
Shannon Bador doesn't really care
about what other people think.
Shannon Badore!
In the third person.
Yeah, and then all of a sudden,
she said Badore all the time,
but if you watch maybe the first season,
she doesn't talk about herself like Shannon Badore.
And she doesn't do the hands and everything.
And so then I think she realized that's what people,
but also that's what makes,
when you see memes of yourself being iconic and all that, then you're like, well, that's what people, but also that's what makes, like when you see memes of yourself being iconic
and all that, then you're like, well, that's my shtick.
So.
I do Luan now, because Luan's a huge,
she's done that whole, right?
Luan has become even more Luan than Luan ever was.
Darling, darling.
Are you coming to my cabaret?
Yes, wow.
Yeah.
It's a whole new show, it's called Mary Fuck Kill.
And you're absolutely gonna love it.
And everyone gets served eggs à la francés
in the audience.
It's really spectacular.
It's a, and I sing only Stevie Nicks covers.
Did you hear her, Stevie Nicks?
I'm dead over it.
I love it.
It's the best ever.
I wanna go to the show.
I love it because she sticks with it.
She goes for it.
I've been to the show like five times.
I'm so jealous.
She was in New York the last three nights.
It is just a good time.
Yeah.
It's just a good time.
She puts on a show.
She puts on a show.
It's fun.
And it's fun because like, you know, any of those shows,
but because it's music versus like standup,
it's a little more participatory as far as like,
you're singing or dancing.
You can kind of talk during it.
It's not.
Right.
So it's like, especially, and so you're with your group of people and I think
that's why, and it's one of those things you can keep going.
It doesn't matter, you know, if you went last year or two years ago.
She'll always have new looks.
Yes, she will.
I love her.
Okay.
So I want to ask you about Hilaria Baldwin.
Yeah, where were you?
Cause I remember where I was.
I think this is one of the greater moments
of pop culture in the last 10 years
is discovering that Alec Baldwin's wife
and mother of their six or seven kids.
Seven.
Seven.
Who we all thought was from Spain.
An immigrant.
Was in fact born and raised in Boston
and only spent one summer in Spain.
Where her wealthy parents own a summer home.
And I to this day believe that Alec Baldwin married her
thinking that she really was Spanish
because I don't think he ever asked her,
tell me about your high school career.
I don't think he ever asked her, did you do the plays?
You play a little field hockey?
Yeah, no, it was wild.
It's not a documentary yet?
It's funny because people have talked to me about it.
There's a whole group on Reddit
that like made my impression popular
and I've been approached by people who are like,
I wanna do a documentary or I wanna do this or I wanna do
and I'm like, I don't know about this family.
Like I think kinda stay away and do my little impression.
She doesn't like it.
I don't think she likes my impression.
I think it's like borderline, like maybe she finds it offensive.
I think she's sensitive to it, but also,
she had so many opportunities to like come clean.
And she didn't, she leaned in harder.
Well, she sort of came clean and then she will still do the accent
because I just think it's just been going on for so long.
And that, you know, but she like believes that she's, I mean, there's so many moments that
were just beyond shocking. And I wonder like, okay, it's fine that your, your husband who just
thought you were hot didn't care who, and he was obsessed with Selma Hayek before. I heard this, yes.
And I also heard that he'd go to that vegan restaurant
and somebody gave her the heads up.
He goes here all the time.
And he's into Spanish speaking girls.
And she had just started doing her Spanish ballroom
or something and she spoke Spanish.
So then she sat down and was speaking Spanish.
And then he goes,
I have to meet you.
And that's how they met.
And then...
It's really wild.
And then we found out in the pandemic
is when her high school friends, I think, like,
you know, with TikTok and like people were bored sitting at home,
they were like, they outed her.
No, I think there was one particular...
I apologize.
There was one person that put it all together.
Oh.
A really good Instagram account.
Like someone on Instagram, yes.
And I just can't remember who it was,
but they put it all together,
like all the evidence of like the cucumber on the show,
on the cooking show.
Cucumber?
Yeah, how you saying?
So she was cooking, let's just do that, so we're cooking.
So today we have a great chef, Hilaria Baldwin, who's so busy.
You have so many children.
I have like four or six now.
It's just hard to count.
And you're married to Oscar winner Alec Baldwin.
Yes, Alec Baldwin is my husband.
Yes, I love him.
And so what are you going to cook for us today?
Today we are going to make a, um, el salado, you know?
Have you have, you have for lunch, you know,
when you want to feel healthy and stuff like that.
But like, you also, it's like, we're gonna do tomatoes,
and then, um, I, how you say, uh, in English, uh,
cucumber?
Cucumber, yes.
Yes, yes, that's.
And we are going to chop chop,
and then we're going to eat it,
and it's just like, it's so delicious.
Do you know?
Delicious.
Yes.
It's really so tasty.
You know, my kids.
You speak English so well.
Thank you.
I really admire you,
because I took Spanish in high school,
I don't speak any.
Oh.
So when did you learn English so well?
I would go, you know, I'm from a Thbanya.
I'm from a town outside of a Thbanya.
Okay.
Both don, have you heard?
Do you know?
It's a beautiful place.
We have a lot of good comida, like clam chowder.
Oh, okay, yeah.
Very cultural.
So we just always spoke Spanish, you know, in my family and like with my friends, and
then I was a dancer. And so like, I sometimes it's I just speak English a lot and Spanish
a lot. It depends on, you know, who's home I am visiting.
Yes.
Yes, that's.
You know what I thought? Okay. So I just remembered that when it was all put together, it was
so amazing because it was like,
not only the cucumber thing, then she was on a podcast
where blatantly lies and where they're like,
you speak Spanish so well, that whole thing,
and she just went for it.
See.
And then I saw the whole thing of,
I'm now wondering, did I read an article
or was there like a little document?
There was something about the dancing
where then she started working at the dance studio,
the ballroom dance studio,
and that's how she kind of got into the Spanish world.
Yeah, she would compete, I think.
She would dance, I think, too.
Okay.
And, but I remember when it was all going down
and everybody, no, I know how it started.
It was something like Amy Schumer made fun of the fact
that she was like on her head a week after giving birth
or whatever.
And Amy was like, just had just given birth at the same time.
So there was some little joke
and then she kind of attacked Amy.
And that's when the person then goes, are you fucking kidding me? Like you've been pretending to be Spanish for years and that's
when it all just started to come came where it was like everybody was like, oh my God.
And then she was like, I want to talk to you for a minute and she does like the whole talking
to the camera. Like, you know, of defending herself. And I remember Ireland Baldwin was like,
this is the sweetest woman I know.
And stop being so mean, I get it.
Like first step mom was, but I don't know.
I mean, but then it is kind of like,
hey, if someone wants to identify as a whole nother thing,
are we supposed to accept that?
I don't think in ethnicity is something you can just
identify. I agree.
No, I agree, but I feel like that's what she was trying to do.
She's trying to normalize that.
Why isn't it okay?
But the real reason it's not okay is that she literally,
because of her privilege of being married to Alec Baldwin
and being this Spanish girl,
anytime they wanted to check a box
and have someone's Spanish host a TV show,
be on the red carpet answering questions,
be on the cover of Latina Magazine,
she got it over real Latina,
Latinas that are actresses or hosts or whatever models.
And that is where that's why it was a real problem.
Cause it's like someone doing blackface almost.
It's weird.
It's a strange thing to like morph into.
I didn't mean for to do her to go viral.
That was a mis, that was like that happened to me by accident.
I literally like, when you were like, where were you?
I was like, oh, I was on my couch in my pajamas.
I have no makeup on.
I didn't expect to go viral or anything.
That's when you like, you know know when you don't try at all
It's an 11-second video, and I was like I just went on my Instagram. I was like I to understand you know I went to
La universidad de Boston and that's where I went to school like I just said that because I went to Boston University
You didn't realize yeah, okay, and that's what I said and people it went super, and then the LA Times called me a tiktoker,
and I was like, oh my God, I'm a tiktoker.
Oh my God, I have like a new title under my belt.
And then you just did it recently
because she had kind of a weird moment
that a paparazzi caught her.
And it was the fakes.
That was amazing.
It was the fakes phone call.
She looks great.
She's wearing like these little black shorts.
She's doing the mob wife aesthetic. She's like a leather jacket over her shoulders. Yeah wearing like these little black shorts. She's doing the mob wife aesthetic.
She's like a leather jacket over her shoulders.
Yeah, and like little black shorts
and little like fishnet knives and heels.
And she walks by not like ignoring the paparazzi
on purpose and she's like,
oh, okay, that's wonderful.
I love that for you.
So we'll go to the dinner now.
And you did that perfectly.
Thank you.
She also, I don't know if you noticed,
she has no bag and she has a coffee cup
that has no top on it.
It was almost like someone standing around the corner
and they're like, phone, cup, you're on an errand, like go.
And you know what, that is my biggest pet peeve
about props in movies is coffee cups that are empty.
Yes.
Because you can tell there's no weight to them.
It's not hot and there's no weight.
But then to also not even have a cover to it.
And this isn't even a movie.
This was an Instagram post.
I mean, the production value is insane.
It is so wild though.
And like whenever she does anything,
she goes dark, she takes months off of Instagram.
And like I did a lot of her because these people would
DM me and be like, did you see what she did?
You gotta do this, you gotta do this.
And it's hard to come up with your own version of it.
Because sometimes it's just there,
you don't have to do much.
And we look alike, so people were like,
I thought it was really her, but it's black.
And I'm like, oh shit.
And I've been blocked on TikTok before.
I've had people report them.
I don't know if she has people reporting my shit,
but who knows.
What happens? So then when that happens on TikTok, then they don't know if she has people reporting my shit, but who knows. What happens?
So then when that happens on TikTok, then they don't, they get blocked.
You mean they just, they just don't give your stuff any love in the
algorithm or like, I couldn't sign on once for a week.
And I was like, as an addicted TikToker, like that happens when you're on
probation, like, does it just after a week, they just let you back on?
You have to contact someone at TikTok.
No, after a week, I was allowed back on.
I'd try at least 12 times a day. You know what I mean? I made a burner account because I was like, well, you have to contact someone at TikTok. No, after a week I was allowed back on. I'd try at least 12 times a day, you know what I mean?
I made a burner account because I was like,
well I have to watch other TikToks if I can't post myself.
Oh my gosh, that's so scary.
Scary.
I've had it like done on Instagram too,
like sound taken down, only on those videos.
So I'm like, that's weird.
What do you think is gonna happen to her as time goes on?
I don't know.
I feel like she just, she doesn't need to be
in the public eye.
Like she could just be a mom, you know,
or teach yoga or like do what she was doing.
I feel like she had this like obsession with being famous.
Well, she did.
Cause I think she first was like,
well, we knew she was his wife,
but also she would was like one of those moms
that used her kids all the time
and you know, could make food from scratch
and then but also like stand in her head
and do like a yoga pose.
And she had a great body and she was pretty.
So men and women, everybody is sort of,
there's like this new thing of like
these moms that are like really put together
and skinny and they're like in their 30s,
but they have a lot of kids.
Like in my day, it was really weird
if you had like more than three kids.
That's a lot, yeah.
And then back in the 70s, like people had like five
and six and seven.
Now I feel it's like a flex to be like,
that's how rich I am.
That I can have like six kids.
Yeah, and I don't. So weird. And like six kids. Yeah, and I don't, and like the flex of like,
and I don't have to work.
Cause my husband makes so much money.
I can like make my own bread with my kid.
Yeah, or I could just do yoga cause I have four nannies.
So I can just do my own thing.
Anyway, it doesn't matter how many kids are around.
I watched Kris Jenner's masterclass.
This is off topic the other day.
And she said that when she was 16,
she had a dream that she had six children.
She, that is true.
Is it?
She always like, wow.
She always wanted six kids.
And she made it happen.
So then when she ended it with Robert,
and then she met Bruce at the time.
She, then when she had tried to have a baby, then she got Bruce at the time. Then when she had tried to have a baby,
then she got pregnant at 40.
And I remember Courtney being like,
I'm like, what did you think of that?
Cause I've known them forever.
And Courtney was like, we thought it was so gross.
Like we're like, you're so old.
But she's fulfilling the dream.
And now Courtney's has had her baby at 44.
But Courtney thought it was so gross
that she had a baby at 40 and 42.
So they have the good reproducing genes.
And then, yeah, so then she wanted to have another one
so that there'd be like friends,
which I've had people do that too,
where there's a big break, they're like,
well, let me just have one more.
So they have each other.
But yeah, no, she really did always want to have.
Wow, I can't imagine.
I have two puppies and I actually,
I want to kill myself right now.
I'm dying.
The first like paragraph of her book is,
Chris, it was like, in a jet in Paris
that looks like a perfect Chanel purse,
something like that, I knew, and I'm with Kim,
and I knew this is exactly where I'm meant to be.
And it goes back to the manifesting and all that stuff
that she's like.
I love that.
This isn't, it's like she's not really surprised.
Yeah.
Which is very cool.
So wait, you were saying you have two baby puppies.
I do, I know.
What, they're twins.
They're brothers.
From the same litter, yeah.
What kind are they?
They're toy poodles.
Although I might have gotten gypped.
They're gonna be bigger than toy,
but hopefully not too big,
because they have to travel.
And now, did you,
because you're Chris Jenner's I-Y wanted two,
like Kendall and Kylie?
Yeah, I really needed two.
You know, I want them to have each other to play,
because I'm so busy.
So it's really nice to just let them fight all day.
And how old are they now?
Three months, no, four months almost.
Three and a half months.
I did take them on the plane.
I did, yeah.
How do you do that?
You have one carrier for the both of them?
Yeah, on Delta you can have,
here's the rule for anyone flying Delta,
but you can have two puppies
if they're the same breed under six months
and like under the weight limit or whatever.
And they checked off those boxes.
So yeah, they were in one carrier.
And they can go under your seat?
Yeah.
Well. If they behave, you know?
Yeah.
I had to like hide one of them in a sweatshirt,
one of them went to the bathroom with my boyfriend.
He's like, yeah, he's shit on the wee wee pad
of the bathroom.
We were coming back from Oregon last night
after looking at the schools for my son.
And there were these two dads, like a couple,
and they had these adorable identical twin boys
or about a year and a half.
And human boys, not human boys.
And throughout the day, they were there on time.
They're letting them run around.
The boys were fine, good.
But then something was going down with the dads.
It was a full flight.
And one dad, it was just like, remember those two dads that we saw?
Think about the girls, think about the girls.
Well, one dad was like trying to calm down angry dad.
And angry dad was just like, no, this isn't right.
Like, I paid for this seat and da-da-da.
And I'm like, what is going on?
So then they go, I'm so sorry, we're gonna have to deplane.
And I'm like, motherfucker, I've been in Oregon for three days,
this is last night, we're already landing at like 8.30,
I'm like, this is gonna make it like midnight, right?
So, and we're coming into the store.
So I get up and fly to town, it's like, what are you doing?
I'm like, they just said for us to deplane. She's, oh, no, no, no, the cops are coming now. So then the cops come
and they're just like, you got to get off to the two dads and the two boys. And I'm like, wait,
what, what happened? And why are they so much? So then the one guy leaves the one dad with the one
twin and then the other one comes and he's got all these bags and he's like, sorry if my bag hits you, but these are my bags and da-da-da.
And so then he goes through with the baby and they get off.
And so then I'm like, so I figured out what happened.
Okay.
Okay.
They did buy four seats.
Okay.
So each kid had up and so then he wanted four carry-ons.
But they said, while we were waiting,
and this is Alaska, they said over and over,
it's a full flight.
If you're in group C or D, which they were,
you're gonna have to check in your check-in bags now.
And they were like, no, probably
because they have a lot of kid stuff.
So he was like, no, I paid for these seats, no.
But they can't help it if there's no room.
And then mean dad got mean to the nasty to the flight attendant
and she was like, F off.
I don't care if you have kids, you're rude to me.
Screw you, dude, get off the plane.
And all I could think about was like, oh my God,
now you have two one and a half year olds in an airport.
In an airport, after you've already been there for two hours
and now you gotta try to find a flight
and you can't go back on Alaska probably
because now you're probably banned.
That sucks.
Listen to anybody on a plane.
This is not a restaurant.
The customer is not always right.
No.
Shut the fuck up.
Yeah.
I don't care what they do to you.
I don't care if they move you from your seat.
Like even if I paid for a seat and they were like,
move, I'd just be like, let me just document it.
Let me talk about it in Juicy Scoop the next day.
Maybe I'll get a free ticket.
Just get me the fuck home.
Like, even if you're right people,
don't think that you're gonna win.
Now you're definitely-
10 minutes before a flight comes off.
You're not gonna win.
It's funny when you said that I had,
I just had PTSD of me moving to LA last year
and I was flying with seven duffel bags,
one dog at the time, my dog who passed away.
And I had this carry on that was like a small luggage.
You know that was a carry on.
And I was, they said, oh, you have to,
and we had already missed a flight.
That's the best.
We already missed one flight.
Yeah. So this is like four hours later, I'm drunk and they had to put it up top
I was gonna put it up top
They said we have to check it and it had my jewelry in it and like my stuff for my grandmother like anything good in my life
Was in that bag and I was like I just started sobbing and I was like you can't take this bag away for me like I need it
I'm moving I need it and they took it and they checked it and I'm still sitting there sobbing and this one nice flight attendant,
he came over to me and he was like,
what's your favorite cocktail?
And I was like, I don't know, old fashioned.
And he gave me like four drinks.
I was a mess, the whole flight I cried,
but I was drinking so I was like even more emotional.
It was, anyway, he was very nice, but I didn't win.
I didn't get to keep it back.
No, you're not, you're not going to win.
Nope, not in an airplane. You also learned also learned, I just decided this this year,
in all my traveling of stand-up,
I used to always want to have a carry-on
because I was like, God forbid they lose my thing
and I got to look cute tonight
and I want my special jeans and my whatever.
Once I just relinquished that and took one big bag that I could like keep
shit on a hanger and check it. So free. Yeah. And I just am like, if it gets lost,
it gets lost. I walk out, I have a great fucking story. Yeah. That's so true. I've
never not checked a bag. I don't care if it's a day or two. I love checking. I have to check a bag.
And then just be free in the airport to like buy candy,
walk around.
I can't believe all these years that I was just
pulling the thing like so.
Or if I checked a bag, I'd make sure like,
I had my badges in this bag and I had this
and then everything I needed to perform.
And I used to give away like reusable straws.
Yeah.
Of course, why wouldn't you?
I would love to read, I need a reusable straw.
I mean, it's so great to be like, what was I thinking?
Like a guy would ever care.
You were progressive, that's what you were thinking.
You were like, the environment is fucked.
I'm getting a reusable straws as my merch.
Sometimes I'm so jealous of guy comics. You do a lot of it, so you do stand up. I'm getting a reusable straw, says my merch. So does the So Jealous of Guy comics.
You do a lot of it, so you do stand up.
I do stand up, yeah.
Do you have dates you wanna tell us about,
or anything coming up?
Yeah, I'm hosting, you know what?
I'm doing a fun brunch show.
I hate stand up in the day, but this sounded fun,
because it's at City Winery in New York City.
Yeah.
And we have good people.
I've performed there, that's a great place.
Yeah, it's a good venue.
I love doing shows there.
So they were like, you wanna do a two o'clock brunch show?
I was like, yeah, sure.
It's February 24th.
So come.
I think that is great.
I'm, I think.
Come do it.
I think shows in the day are, it's where it's at.
Really?
Or at least earlier.
Or earlier.
Like I just told my agent, let me know people.
I get gigs and then we sell out the first one
and then if there's an option for a second,
I already told them, I go, if I get to a place
that I sold it out quick enough
that I feel confident I can sell it the second.
I'm like, I think we'd rather do it at five than nine, 30.
Cause at five, the ladies can come, they can have dinner
and they can still be in their bed by nine.
I like that.
I think even for millennials and stuff,
people are just not into going out late anymore.
No, they're not.
There was an article, it was like 6 p.m.
is the new 8 p.m. reservation,
and I was like, yeah, kind of.
I like going out early and being like,
oh my God, it's like nine o'clock,
and I can just do nothing the rest of the night?
That's so nice.
Yeah, I don't know.
And then also when you go out too late,
there's that time that you like might go home
and have that time to take a nap.
That's really bad.
The nap before getting cute,
especially if the weather's not nice, good fucking luck.
Yeah, you're never gonna make it out.
No, you're not. That's why I do like a six fucking luck. Motivating. Yeah, you're never gonna make it out.
No.
That's why I do like a six o'clock dinner or whatever.
Yeah.
I, yeah, I love it.
I love, I think this is a post pandemic world though.
Like where we're like, you know,
10 o'clock used to be like, yeah, I'd eat dinner at 10
or I'd go to a show at 10
or I'll do an 11 o'clock spot on a show.
And now I'm like, that feels so late.
Like if I were the audience,
I wouldn't wanna be there at that hour
unless it's like a Saturday night
and it's like a great weekend.
I don't know, nice weather.
But like, yeah, I just.
But then there also is something kind of great
when you do go out and like really rip it.
Yeah.
And you got drunk.
Providing you have nothing the next day.
Sure.
And then you wake up and you like,
a little hungover, little dry mouth. And you're like, the next day. Sure. And then you wake up and you like a little hungover,
a little dry mouth.
And you're like, I did it.
Yeah.
I did it.
You're like, I'm cool again.
I ripped it.
I was not asleep to 145.
That's how great it was.
You know what I mean?
Got to bring that back.
That's me every night right now with these dogs
who are on East Coast time.
I'm like, I go to bed at one and I'm like, oh my god,
they're crying and it's only four.
That's three hours of sleep.
Like how did new mothers do it?
I don't know.
I think that with the twins that you have.
My twins.
Have you thought of a co-sleeper?
A co-sleeper?
Well, you know, I thought it was for humans
and I thought this could be really good for dogs too.
What is your program?
Please sign me up.
You, you, it's like a little crib
that you put under your mattress that's right next to you.
So they're not in your bed, but they're right next to you.
Okay.
So then you can just reach over and rub them.
Yeah.
I have them in two rooms away and they're still bothering me.
Oh.
They're in their crates right now.
You're one of those mothers.
I don't want them to shit in my room or anything.
Yeah, I'm one of those.
You do dog carriers on your body?
No, I do a bag.
Like a bag.
My boyfriend does those and they love it.
He's really a good parent. I'm not a badge. Oh, my boyfriend does those and they love it. He's like really a good parent.
I'm like not a good dog owner.
I think that's my next comedy thing.
My special should be like bad dog mom, you know what I mean?
I just wanna see somebody when they go to pick up their dog,
do that thing where it's like,
they have the pink and blue, like blanky,
and then you have to take off your shirt.
Like in the hospital. Just full tits out and you're just like, and then you have to take off your shirt like in the hospital.
Just full tits out and you're just like,
and you just have to take one and the men do two.
You don't like a men now do it with their babies.
Yeah.
And I really need someone to do that.
I'll do that for you.
I actually did that this morning.
Honestly, like not on purpose, but they were like,
I was like, what do we do?
They ate, let's just put them on our chest
and see if they'll fall.
And we slept for an hour in the bed like that. And I was like, oh my God. Yeah They ate, let's just put them on our chest and see if they'll fall asleep. And we slept for an hour in the bed like that.
And I was like, oh my God.
Is this what I have to do?
Do they have to sleep with me?
I don't know.
They'll sleep with me eventually.
My dog.
Do you think you're gonna get married?
I don't know.
At some point, when I can afford the whole wedding.
When I can just-
Oh, you want a big shebang.
I want a big shebang.
Yeah, I grew up-
Do you want price mates?
No, no.
I don't care about any of that stuff.
But like my bat mitzvah was like a wedding,
you know what I mean?
Like I like.
How much money did you get for that?
For my bat mitzvah?
Yeah.
I don't remember.
I have no idea how much money I got.
I don't even know where it went.
Did it go right to your college or you don't know?
Probably, it probably did.
Or my parents took it and I should just hit them up
and be like, hey, what happened to that bat mitzvah money?
I did sell every piece of Tiffany's jewelry
I got from my Bat Mitzvah.
I just remember it was like, I had a couple Jewish friends
and they had their Bat Mitzvah, which was just like,
you know, at a hotel and DJ and everything.
And at that time, Catholics got confirmation.
Now they moved it up to 16, which is just such a mistake because you
just used to do it your eighth grade year at the Catholic school and just everybody did
it. Even though they said you didn't have to do it, you're like, well, you're gonna
be the one like weird atheist that doesn't do it. So, but literally like no party, no
gift. And I'm like, this sucks. Bullshit. Yeah. This really is not the same. Yeah, your
mom, this is really just a fashion show not the same. Yeah, you're wrong.
This is really just a fashion show and people hand you gifts because you're like dressed
in a cool dress.
I don't know.
Yes.
It's not much more, but I love it.
I don't know.
I want to have a wedding at some point, but I don't know.
People have given up.
We've been together for so long.
How long have you been?
Eight years.
Oh, because, and you guys were just doing the pookie thing.
We did the pookie thing.
Okay, so this couple, you guys went viral and they were just doing the pookie thing. We did the pookie thing. Okay, so this couple, you guys went viral
and they were just doing the showing off our outfits.
Yeah, like a, like outfit or a day.
But you know what also bugs me about TikTok is what,
some person that just is like rich
and then they're bored housewife and they get on TikTok
and they must have hired somebody to help them do this.
Yes. And so now they're doing the same thing
that everyone does where they take the earrings
and they go, and they like show the earrings
and put them on and then they say, okay, guys, yeah.
Should I ring?
Yeah, they ring and the earrings.
And so this girl, Pookie is from the South and her husband.
And I guess people were freaked out.
Did they think he was gay or something?
Why were they freaked out for them?
He's like a robot.
They think she's like being held captive.
They're all like, blink twice if you're okay, Pookie.
He calls her Pookie and he's like,
this outfit looks absolutely fabulous.
But I think they were fine when it went viral.
And then, but then they found out that she went
to the antebello Party that they would do in Southern colleges,
which is not a great theme.
No, I saw some TikTok.
Not a great time of a history to be celebrating.
No.
And so then she had to do a big apology.
Pookie went to the Kappa SIG party.
Yeah, I was gonna say, whatever.
I saw some girl on TikTok who was like,
I went to college with Pookie and let me tell you,
I have some photos.
I was like, oh man, they're all coming for her.
And then they're like, Pookie's been canceled.
I'm like canceled for what?
Was she going on like a tour with the opening for JLo?
I didn't know about like, it's fine.
I'm obsessed with the videos.
She's not gonna go away.
No.
She did the right thing.
No, they're an aspen today.
I was dumb, I went to this party, I was invited.
Yeah.
She's like, I didn't pick the theme.
I just participated.
At this point, along with the,
along with if you said something shitty
about a celebrity on a podcast,
but you actually are gonna be in a movie next week,
like you have a good agent,
I say you gotta come clean with all of it right now.
I think so.
You say, hey, if somebody finds it
and a few people on the internet get angry about it,
I don't know.
Do you own it or is the new advice to be, ignore it?
I think, well, I think in some cases it's okay to ignore it.
Yeah, it depends on what it is.
Because I kind of feel like if you ignore it,
it might be gone and like,
sometimes I think it feels like it's such a bigger thing
because it's happening to you.
And then when you realize that not even your close friends
knew that people were coming for you
because you said something they didn't like,
and you're like, to you, you feel like,
I'm getting canceled, my life's over.
But then I'm like, and then so you go and defend it,
but then you don't defend it right.
I mean, it's one thing to be like,
have Page Six write about it.
And then there's another where it's like a smaller.
A Reddit group.
Yeah, like it's a smaller thing like that.
And you're like, now I kind of feel like
my attitude has changed.
I almost feel like sometimes I think it's okay
to just like, ignore it.
Whatever who cares.
Yeah, whatever who cares.
And now there's my top.
Whatever. It's so cute.
Tell everybody again, where they could follow you and find you
and see you in person.
You can find me anywhere on the internet at Anna Royceman,
A-N-A-R-O-I-S-M-A-N.
And I have a fun podcast called Big Wigs with Andrea Lopez,
who is a guest here.
And yeah, I don't know.
Find me on Instagram, because that's
where I post all my shows and stuff, and dumb videos,
or TikTok.
And of course, I'm at heathermcdonald.net. I have new shows out. If it hasn't sold out already, I'm March 16th in Thousand Oaks. And I'm also gonna be in Scottsdale on Friday, May 4th.
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