Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Lala Kent, A Kidnapping Hoax, and Josh Flagg Divorce

Episode Date: March 8, 2022

Lala Kent shares about her single life. Million Dollar Listing LA stars, Josh Flagg and Bobby Boyd are getting divorced. Married Mom, Sherri Papini has been arrested for faking her own disappearance. ...Prosecutors are saying that she was actually with her boyfriend in the OC during the three weeks she was missing. Shanna Moakler is pregnant and her ex-boyfriend AKA baby daddy has quite a history. An actor faints on stage. The Dropout’s first episode is out. Real Housewives of Miami reunion reveals Julia’s sad past. RHSLC reunion explores Lisa’s hot mic rant. RHOC cruelest husband scene. Who severed head is in Kanye’s video? Is there a cult of Tik Tok dancers? Too many topics to list, enjoy! Subscribe on Apple Podcasts to get exclusive Extra Juicy episodes every Friday and get all episodes of Juicy Scoop, ad-free Or get access to Extra Juicy on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com         Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Heather McDonald has got the juices scoop. When you're on the road, when you're on the go. Juicy scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood tales, her real life, Mr. Sanctuary, real data, and serial sister. You'll be addicted and a tick-sit back to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in, listen up.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Woo, woo, and a McDonald. Juicy scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy scoop. I have a girl, Lala Kent. Give them Lala. Give them Lala on Juicy scoop. Welcome back. For the fifth time, I think, right?
Starting point is 00:00:42 I think it might be the sixth. Ding. We have so much discussed. There's so many topics, lots of housewife stuff. But first, how are you doing? I'm happy. Yeah. What can you share with the juicy scoopers
Starting point is 00:00:56 about your traumatic juicy life? That's hopefully not as traumatic as it used to be. You know what? It was a traumatic experience experience my bounce back was like super quick I find that to be easy when like you finally have a bird's-eye view on your life and you're like wow I really didn't like you ever and oh so now you look back at everything of like kind of a different perspective of like you were just sort of Accepting and going through the motions. I was existing.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Yeah. I was existing in my life. Like I, I like stayed in a bathrobe all day. I just felt like lifeless for a long time. Oh. Yeah, especially after I stopped drinking and I like realized what I was in, but I was like, oh, he's nice to me.
Starting point is 00:01:41 So like, I'll stick around, whatever. Have a baby. Oh, but last night night I had this moment. So I've cleared every picture, video, everything of him off my phone, like non-existent. But a memory popped up and you could see a piece of his face. So I was like, we need to go back through, we got to comb through this. And so I'm going through deleting photos. And then I start getting to like all of when
Starting point is 00:02:06 the shit hit the fan and text messages. And I put my phone down and I was like, thank you, Jesus. Like I looked around in my apartment and I felt euphoric that just like, I'm free. And I got out of it with like a metaphorical scratch. Like I'm happy as it gets. Good, you know? Good, good.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Yeah, and then, you know, also it's just like, I mean, not that there was ever hope that you'd get back together. Right. Shortly after. Like when it first broke, I thought there was. Yeah. Just like why I was talking to you and even talking to him for a little bit. But I also think the finality of knowing that
Starting point is 00:02:51 like can help you move on quicker. I think sometimes when couples go back and forth or that's like typical, but because it was so, well thank you, thank you for being so awful that there is no choice. And that's also sometimes a gift. So if someone's treating you so badly is the gift
Starting point is 00:03:11 because there's no question in your mind or whatever. Well, that's the thing. He's such a mastermind manipulator that I thought he was really a good dude to me. So I made concessions for the fact that like I couldn't stand him. And I was like, but he's nice. Like he takes care of me. Like he cares about what I'm saying, which really I don't even remember ever being able to get a word in. But and I haven't shared this with anybody. I would beg the universe at night, like give me something. Give me something,
Starting point is 00:03:46 because for me, there's no coming back from drug use and there's no coming back from cheating. And I would beg the fucking universe. Give me a reason. Like I have to give you a reason to give me a reason to get the fuck out of this. I would lay in bed looking at his back at night, being like, please. And on October 15th, the universe fucking provided me with everything and more. Yeah, because who knows how much longer you would have maybe continued to be in the dark about it. Yeah, I was completely in the dark. And, you know, I don't know him. I don't want to know him. I don't want to be associated.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Like, he will never be around me ever again. And I told him, like, you also don't know me. Because that version that I was with you was not me. What was the version then? What was that then for five years? Were you just growing up? Someone existing. I had my dukes up all the time the version then, what was that then for five years? Were you just growing up or what? Someone existing, I had my dukes up all the time because I constantly was being poked
Starting point is 00:04:50 at in that relationship. So I constantly was in fight mode. I was constantly just on the defense. And that's not me. Yeah. Like I am sensitive and I can be tough but like when you're home in a safe place I don't want to be tough. I want to chill and like you know I just feel so grateful that I found all this stuff out because and it keeps coming. It keeps coming and then I just I literally have all the moments of gratitude in the world. Even though like I'm still going through it, and I got to protect O, I'm like, this is... Oh, it's a short for ocean? Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:34 This was fucking divine intervention. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm glad you're doing better and I'm glad you guys are moving on. Yes, and I can get back to what I'm physically attracted to. Tall, dark and handsome, covered in tattoos, bang in. Is there somebody because I sent you the photo that everyone thinks is who you're dating and you said no, that wasn't it.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Do you remember this? Was he a white boy? He was white with tattoos and very physically fit. No. That was him. That was someone put a photo of your former with him saying, how is it going and how's it going now or something? That is not your dude.
Starting point is 00:06:14 No, okay. He's like a dear friend of mine. That guy. Yeah, but no, I've never hooked up with him. Okay. Not romantic, no. Will you show me who you're dating after the show? Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Okay, one point. And of course. And when you think we'll see that. Not for a minute. Okay. Yeah. He's like someone who should be protected just for a moment. You know, because I'm in it balls deep right now with my personal.
Starting point is 00:06:38 I know I have it balls. I know I haven't had sex yet. I haven't had, I haven't slept with anybody. Oh my God. I know. He's going to, I haven't slept with anybody. Oh my God. I know. I'm just gonna close up like a peer-stair. Hahaha. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I don't feel like a stretch before. You're like all scared. Yeah, no, I don't think it works that way, does it? Fuck. I don't know. It would have closed up already. I mean, I haven't gotten late since July of 2020 so oh my god really Yes, oh
Starting point is 00:07:08 Yeah Interesting okay all right Jesus We have so many things to cover now unfortunately this weekend Friends of ours are also breaking up okay Million dollar listings Josh flag is divorcing husband Bobby Boyd. This is from Page Six. They both gave their own statements on Friday night.
Starting point is 00:07:37 You know, I was aware of this before. And again, when I first came to it. How long before, do you know? Just a couple weeks. Or can you say, I mean, a couple weeks that they were separated. And then, because Josh was staying at the Beverly Hills hotel, which it said, and I think that's article.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah. And I was like, oh, well, you know, when you've got money and you don't have kids, maybe living separate is kind of a nice thing to figure out. And like, you know Wait, we do really miss each other or whatever like I thought it was like a healthy thing to do that a lot of People cannot afford to do and don't have the means to just be like, oh my god Could you go to your own place? Yeah a lot of people don't have that so but then when it was made definitive
Starting point is 00:08:21 And I was made aware of it a little before this that I was, you know, sad about it, but they'll both be fine and, you know, I was sad about it too. Yeah. I love them both. I know and I had fun with them together. I never, like, some people I've talked to, like, did you, was attention, was it uncomfortable? I'm like, I actually really wasn't for me. Like, I kind of just thought that was like their fun like banter. Totally. And it wasn't really worried. Also, it's like, I was telling you, you know, it's like we all have gay friends, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:52 couples. But a gay male couple is different than a female couple. I mean, we all have similarities in just being in a relationship partners, but there is stuff that's different. And I'm like, you know, like one of the things is that they each had different groups of friends who would do stuff separately. And some of our mutual friends were like,
Starting point is 00:09:11 oh, I don't think that's good. And I'm like, well, as a heterosexual couple, like Peter goes off and told me, totally, without me, and I have my girls night with you. Right. We're fine 21 years later, so I'm like, so why can't a gay couple have different Like so yeah, so that didn't concern me, but in the end, maybe they just wanted they I think they
Starting point is 00:09:33 are very different people and they wanted different things that I did sense yeah, but they were wanting different things But it feels like just based off of their statements, that they would be able to maintain a friendship. What I've heard from Josh is that absolutely like he wants the best for Bobby. Yeah, that's what it's like. It's success and everything. It's just like they just were not in a happy state anymore.
Starting point is 00:10:02 And when you, as you know, like waking up every day and then, and then when you finally make that break and realize, you know, this wasn't happy. Like this wasn't short. Yeah, and they don't have kids. Yeah, so it's like goodbye. And they have the means to move on. You know, a lot of people have to stay in something miserable
Starting point is 00:10:20 because they can't afford something different. Yeah, when I read that he was staying at the Beverly Hills Hotel, I was like, I'm so sorry about all this, but why the fuck haven't you invited me to the pull along? He did, though. But now, remember when you were writing about, what are we gonna do for Super Bowl?
Starting point is 00:10:37 Yes. But it was before I fell on my head. And so, and he said, why don't we get up Cabana at the Beverly Hills Hotel? He was already living there? I don't know. Now why don't we do why don't we get up cabana at the Beverly Hills hotel? He was already living there. I don't know. Now I don't know But I kind of wrote like that's not what we want to do for Super Bowl I was wanting to like now. I don't know. Maybe they were now. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah who knows Anyway, yeah, no
Starting point is 00:11:01 They're gonna be fine I'll try to get him in here to tell more. Okay, this story is the juiciest story ever that I've been obsessed with. Sherry Papini, in November of 2016, went missing. Do you know the story? Tell me. Okay, so it was kind of middle-northen California in sortia in sort of a rural, rural area, but like a nice area. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:28 She had a very cute husband, okay? They were just like picture-perfect adorables, two little kids. And he came home to the house and she wasn't there. And he thought that was kind of weird. And then he checked and the daycare said she never picked up the kids. So he started to get panicked. I've heard the 911 calls. He goes and sees and she's a pretty blonde. They're both white. She's a pretty blonde girl and very fit and he saw that her iPhone was like dropped in the grass and the
Starting point is 00:12:01 the AirPods had like a blonde hair wrapped around them. Okay. So the first thought was, oh my god, she went on a run earlier in the day and some grabbed her or something happened. And so this, a lot of people looking for a lot of people wondering what could it be. And there was thoughts, could she have been kidnapped to be sex traffic because maybe they thought with no makeup on and her little body, maybe they thought she was even younger than she was. Because I think she's only maybe like 30.
Starting point is 00:12:32 But, you know, so that's a, she's very young. That's a hot commodity in the sex trafficking world. Three weeks go by. Nobody knows where she is. Dad's crying, I don't know until my kids. They get a call. A woman has been found walking on a highway at night with chain still tied to her. Her hair has been like cut and beat up and they it's her. Okay. she's alive. And they call him and they say, come to the hospital.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Let me prepare you about how your wife looks. You know, she has been beat up and she's been branded. Like, you know how they would brand like a cow, but like, and also sometimes in like black fraternities and sororities, they, or maybe not sororities, but black fraternities, they would do that. I don't know, it's just a weird like i know yeah i know i know i know what i'm like
Starting point is 00:13:29 so she all we get as people at home is that she says i was kidnapped by two mexican women and this is what the photos are so for three weeks and a man
Starting point is 00:13:44 i like that you gave one like like just one giant earring. Okay. This is how she explained them. This is how she explained them and then someone drew them. Okay. You know, and this was before COVID, but they wore massacle time and that's all we know. We don't know if she was being screwed every day
Starting point is 00:14:01 by eight people. We don't know if she was being, and then I was like, well, if she was being sex trafficked, why would they wanna make her look ugly and chop off her blonde hair? And brand, her, and her, what is this weird thing? Who are these two weird mechs, and then we're like, are they lesbians?
Starting point is 00:14:16 And they made a lesbian stuff, like what's going on? Medial people on the internet are in Facebook groups, are like, I call bullshit. Okay. Like, I knew this girl, you know, I know people that knew of her at one point someone found a posting that was derogatory towards Mexicans that she had written or something, years back, which is, so they're like, why is she saying it's, you know, but we don't, we don't really know anything.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Then she goes back, she receives $49,000 from a GoFundMe that began when she went missing. She also gets another 30,000 from the state or the city for victim help that paid for her ambulance ride, which by the way, that's why I didn't accept any ambulance ride when I hit my head. So expensive. It's the only way you'll get the money back is if you were like a victim of a crime in LA, I guess, or in California. She gets 30 and she's spending on blinds for her home so like because people were so
Starting point is 00:15:15 nosy and they go on to live their life and we never know what happens. About a year ago, they interview her again in 2020 and they're like, we have reason to believe that you, there was male DNA found on you and we believe that it might be connected to a man that we did all our research. You were writing to an old boyfriend. And she's denies it, denies it. At one point they thought the husband was involved. But I was just like, who the hell does like hides out
Starting point is 00:15:47 for like some drama? And then cuts off their pretty hair and like hits themselves and like brands themselves. Like who does this? I know. Anyway, she was arrested on Friday for faking her own kidnapping. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:16:01 She was getting old D in the OC. Yes. She was with a D in the OC. Yes. She was with a boyfriend in the OC in Costa Mesa for three weeks. And was so- And was so worried to be found out that she did all of that to make it look like she was kidnapped. I don't know who, I still don't know who the hell would put a branding thing on their arm. And I could understand like cutting your hair Or even like throwing yourself against a wall to look bruise like I could never I know I terrified of getting hurt
Starting point is 00:16:31 I could never There's so many things I don't do because I'm like there's the possibility I could get hurt Yeah, so I'm certainly not branding myself or throwing myself into anything. I have been obsessed with Fate kidnapping my whole life. And I actually wrote like an outline of a screenplay that of course I never got around to writing. When I was in a sparring standup community and I could not get an agent, I had these big VHS tapes of like my standup and like my head shots and you know.
Starting point is 00:16:58 And one time a manager that wasn't doing anything for me, I was like, I'm done with you. And she's like, okay, come to my house and pick up your stuff. And I had spent all this money and not one was missing. Like she did not send one video tape or one had shot out. And I'm like, I swear to God, the only way anyone's gonna know about Heather McDollas, if I go kidnap it, kidnap. And I had this idea for a movie that like,
Starting point is 00:17:21 after I do my standup set, and it's a pretty good set. I like leave my Toyota Celica just like you know like door a jar and then all those VHS tapes and my head shots and I will like what if for a movie not in real life and then like what if the character like fakes her own missing so that like people start talking matter and then people play the videotape or anything and then I'm'm like, but then the act two would be all her friends start getting on the height that they're getting, because they always interview the friends.
Starting point is 00:17:53 And then the friends throw a charity event at the laugh factory and they all get featured and all of them start getting signed and everything. And no one's wondering about me anymore. And now how the fuck do I come out of this little like garage that I rent you? No, can I say a big talk? This is what happens.
Starting point is 00:18:13 It's a whole like that. There are so many times where I think about crimes. Yeah. Because I watch a lot of Dateline 2020 all this year. And I'm like, no one could ever get away with this shit. Like the little scenarios that I put together in my head. And I'm like, abort mission. It's true. You won't that they always will figure it out. Now listen, now her family is very behind her. And they're like, this is absolutely horrible that the police arrested her so abruptly in front of her children. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:18:43 abruptly, it took four years. Yeah, that's very true. It took four years. They made sure that they have a case. Have they spoken to the boyfriend? In the OC. We don't know who the boyfriend is in the OC. We don't know, would you dive?
Starting point is 00:18:57 It was like someone from Orange, like from the real house I suppose to say, but we don't know who the boyfriend is. We don't know how the husband's reacting. We don't know if the husband ever found out and forgave her. We, it's such a juicy mystery. What's the jail time on this if she's convicted? Can you set up a fake name? I'm gonna go back.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Like, if anyone's predicting what it might be, I don't know. I mean, that's a lot of resources. Oh, I know. And I remember. And I remember someone faking their kidnap. What about the resources of juicy scoop? Oh, I know. And I remember. And I remember. And I remember. And I remember. And I remember. And I remember.
Starting point is 00:19:28 And I remember. And I remember. And I remember. And I remember. And I remember. And I remember. And I remember. And I remember.
Starting point is 00:19:36 And I remember. And I remember. And I remember. And I remember. And I remember. And I remember. And I remember. And I remember.
Starting point is 00:19:44 And I remember. And I remember. And I remember. And I remember. And I remember. And I remember. because also around this time there was this other store where people thought this couple in like Fullerton was faking the wife, the girlfriend's kidnapping. And it turned out, no, 100% it was real. And because of gone girl, like people were thinking this. And so I was like, come on, like people still get kidnapped and stuff. Like this is awful. And I like to look in people's eyes.
Starting point is 00:20:02 That's how I tell now. Is I like to look in people's eyes. That's how I tell now. Is I gonna step in the eyes. She has a look like the girl in dropout. Oh yes, let's get in. What's her name? Elizabeth Holmes. Elizabeth Holmes, doesn't she have that kind of crazy light? Wait, I'm gonna jump.
Starting point is 00:20:17 I'm gonna jump. I'm gonna jump. I'm gonna jump. I'm gonna jump. I'm gonna jump. Oh shit. Oh shit. Oh shit.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Oh shit. Oh shit. Oh shit. Oh shit Oh, shit. Oh, shit. It cares if financial penalty of 250,000. She's not gonna end up doing 25 years, okay? But she'll probably end up doing some. She'll do some time. She'll do like two and a half. Do you care that I did that? No, I predict that two and a half is what she'll do.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Two and a half, that's it? Yes. Okay. I'll be interested to see. And I mean I'll kind of, but can we, now sometimes I think that you can't sell your story if you killed someone for profit, but she didn't kill anybody. So hello, let's pay back the victims by doing a Netflix or whatever network you want story. Come on, UC scoop. I'll help sell your book. Just come out with your story. Just come out.
Starting point is 00:21:10 What caused it? Did you miss your kids? What made you do this? Did you have a psychotic break? Or you just a piece of shit? But what if she comes on here and she's like sticking true blue to her story? Those are the people. Go find them. I don't think they can because I think the only reason they arrested her is I think whoever this guy is spoke and they must have some probably text messages. Yeah, they have put them together during that time
Starting point is 00:21:45 in November of 2016, right before Thanksgiving. There's got to, they would not arrest her in such like a sensitive kind of a thing unless they really have some evidence. A prosecution would not go after this. That's very true. Because it's kind of like, yes, it was resources, but oftentimes what they consider like a crime, a victimless crime,
Starting point is 00:22:09 is something that they don't go after. So they must really have evidence that she lied. They have something that may that show up to her house in the rest of your kids. 100%. So not a man just, how do you say it, cypherid? Yeah, that'spherid, yeah. That's who's playing. That's who's playing.
Starting point is 00:22:28 What is the girl about girls holding? What is it? Elizabeth Holmes. This story has been on date, line, night, line, everything. Yeah, I've seen it. I remember reading about her before she was caught as a fraud in glamour being like, I cannot believe how smart this girl is and that she This pretty blonde thought of this way that everyone can get all their blood tested with just one drop
Starting point is 00:22:54 one drop Imagine my uncle died of cancer and I want everybody to experience Saving lives of those you love and with just one drop we can test all these diseases. So I started to watch it too on Hulu. Yeah. She's doing a great job as the character. She kills it. She kills it. She's an incredible actor, actress. Everyone in the show is killing it. And this is one of the...
Starting point is 00:23:20 But I'm so bored. It's a little bit boring in the beginning. But I need them to play some music, like how in Inventing Anna, like it made it interesting, because I would come into the courthouse and it's like, my best friend, she a real bad enemy.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I need them to do that. Well, Shonda Rhymes, you know, is different, she could really bring some flavor to it. I always, I said I was bored in that first episode too. And it got much better. So I think this might get what I want to see in this is the dramatics of her realizing this fucking thing doesn't work and how where do we go from here? Do we try to make it work? Like what is her like what is her story
Starting point is 00:24:04 of like realizing like holy shit, I have all these people working for me, I'm still playing along with this thing, I want to see that part of it. She dropped out of college, though. And yes, she, they show her being compared to Steve Jobs, college job, blah, blah, blah, but this is the medical field. Yeah. You need to go to school. Like all of these other people are like technology geniuses, right? Like if you've got that, you've got it. But like it just that part didn't make sense to me. Well, I talked to this billionaire. Okay, tell me. I talked to a billionaire in the tech world. Because let me be honest, it is two years of community college.
Starting point is 00:24:46 So sometimes I say things that may make sense. No, no, no, but I asked him, I asked him like six months ago, I was like, do you know anybody that invested in the Theranos dropout? You know, what do you think of that? And he's like, oh, I knew all about it. And I told the people that were thinking about it. Like, it's not gonna work, it's bullshit because he knows science.
Starting point is 00:25:11 He's like, because he went to college. Yeah. And I go, so why do you think he was able to get this much money? He goes, because a lot of billionaires, they just have money to give into things. And if one billionaire says do it, then another one goes, oh, it must be okay. And like, that's how she got all these, you know, old white men with a lot of
Starting point is 00:25:31 money to invest. Also, it probably looked good that she was a female and they were putting their money into like a female, a young female based company. Okay. Without really asking, I don't have hard questions, I guess. Because I look at people like her and Adelevi. Yeah. And I'm like, how these women got, like, I can't even get a massage without paying the person on the spot. Like, no, no Venmo me later. No pay pallying me later.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Yeah. You'll pay me right now. And then you're giving massages? No, pay pallying me later. Yeah. You're all pay me right now. And then you're giving massages? No, if someone comes to give me a massage, it's not like they're collecting payment before they leave my house. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:26:15 How are these people showing up with nothing? And people are like, sure, here's a million. What the fuck? Because I think it's all about the vouching. It's like this, you have these people vouching for you. So you just need one power player to vouch. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:36 I invite you to a party to let everybody know, oh my God, she's great. And let me just tell you, rich and powerful people are lonely too. They don't always have plans every Friday and Saturday night. You become friends with one of them. They're so happy to have a friend. They'll just throw money out.
Starting point is 00:26:50 They'll just throw money out. Then they start to, you know, you bullshit your way. You bullshit your way. Bullshit it. Okay, let's get into a couple of things here. Real House has both C. Like I said, we don't know if any of these girls know the guy that was screwing Sherry Bupini or her name is. Did you watch the latest episode? Yes, obviously. Okay, well a lot of the comments were, I cannot believe how perfectly this worked out to promote Heather and Terry Dubro's new show, you're welcome welcome Heather because I'm giving you some promo right here
Starting point is 00:27:25 They have a new show on e 10 o'clock on Tuesdays called the seven year itch where they help couples get cute and See if they can save their marriage at the same time, okay? They're not happy and then at the end they either have to take their new face a new wardrobe and stay together or take that new face and wardrobe and find some new tech. And Heather is there to help because she's been with Terry for 25 years.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Okay. So in this episode, throughout the season, we've been seeing her give advice to Dr. Jen who is having trouble with her stay at home husband. Ryan. Ryan. And I thought that this scene at Heather DeBros' dinner party where she's like, you know, I'm going to show that with other fabulous couples, you could be a fabulous couple too.
Starting point is 00:28:18 And you could throw fabulous dinner parties when you have a staff and someone who does the florals. I mean, like, I know. Who can't have a dinner party like this whip it up in a second It's very simple and you also have a printed menu and all this other stuff like and So she invites a couple other couples that have been a long time over and I just felt like listen this dinner party went on for probably three to four hours because Jen got really wasted went on for probably three to four hours because Jen got really wasted.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Shwaisted. We saw 12 minutes of the most awkward moments. And I really felt like it was kind of the cruelest editing I've ever seen happen to a real house wife's husband because Jen's husband was just, like obviously very shy, does not enjoy being on camera. No.
Starting point is 00:29:03 And what I think people don't realize that are like watching at home. Yeah. When last week's episode, so not the dinner party, but when I think it's when Jen sits down with him and he's like, I'm not doing this. Yeah. And like if you're just like a normal viewer,
Starting point is 00:29:21 you're like, what a dick. And it's like, no, he's clearly stating, we'll do this later, not on a camera. Right. Get the cameras off of me immediately. So take my little dog. Let me take my dog and take a walk. And when they leave, we can have a real sit-down conversation.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Yeah. And I also think he's annoyed because it's like, she already has no time for him. And now you've signed up for a reality show. So on your free time, you're gonna go film a TV show. I'm sure he's like she already has no time for him. And now you've signed up for a reality show, so on your free time, you're gonna go film a TV show. I'm sure he's like, and pick fights with me because that's our storyline. That war that only,
Starting point is 00:29:51 you always need one couple on the verge of being arrested or divorced. It's intense. I feel sorry for him. Is he getting heat on social media? I know from a very good source, the good news is he does not watch, and I don't think it's on social media But I don't think he has a clue of how awful people are saying to him
Starting point is 00:30:11 Well, I think people feel bad for him, but I think people are also like the way it's edited They're like I mean I've seen things and I'm just gonna say this is what I've seen people write You know is he on the spectrum? Is the dog a special? you know, is he on the spectrum? Is the dog a special, an emotional support animal? Because he was sad he couldn't bring the dog to dinner, is that his only friend? Why did he tell Terry that he's never had a job?
Starting point is 00:30:34 When in fact, he works with this like vacation rental situation in Hawaii, he does have a job. Okay. So I'm like, I do the producers just tell him that. Like, hey, when Terry asks you about your work, just remember to say you don't have a job. Like, could that have happened? And he's like, all right, I mean, the choice of socks with the dress shoes, the putting the napkin around his collar shirt, which you'd only do it like a weird, like touristy lobster situation. Totally. It was odd. Like you're, I mean, did you, you
Starting point is 00:31:03 come off an island? Like like where did he grow up? I mean He's been married and raising kids for three years. I mean the whole thing about I just feel like these Like remember how Shannon Bador to be like Shannon Bador Shannon Bador and like yeah, I think she revealed to me like they tell me to say my last name like Shannon Bador Oh and like because it becomes these little like kitschy moments for sure Yeah, I think they were like always bring up the fact that he doesn't wear a shirt kind of a door, she had it. And like because it becomes these little like kitschy moments for the show. Totally. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:26 I think they were like always bring up the fact that he doesn't wear a shirt. And I'm sure like the gay producers are like, I don't be shirtless. Like I don't know. Like I just feel like we've made this like cartoon character and I honestly feel really bad. I do too.
Starting point is 00:31:38 I don't think their marriage is in a great place. They probably will be happier. I mean, I don't know. But I think oftentimes people go on the show too. Like, save a marriage? Let's save a marriage. Either they go,
Starting point is 00:31:51 I want the world to see how awful my husband is being to me. And I want him to see it, feel bad and then love me more. Or that's happened before though. Remember, take men? What's her name again? Oh, Christian take men. Yeah. Like when I watched them, I was like,
Starting point is 00:32:07 they're never gonna last. They're still together. Right. Because they watched themselves back and like made an effort in their marriage. They were like, this is not working because they saw it for themselves. It's like the ultimate mirror.
Starting point is 00:32:19 They, they're one of few, I mean most of the... But you also was not asked back to the show with enough time to save it. Even after the Ashian Madison scandal. You know what the Ashian Madison is? No. Oh, there was a big thing with, you know what Ashian Madison is? No.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Oh, it's a dating site for married people to find each other to screw. Like, we're both married, let's screw, we're never going to leave our spouses, but like meet me at the Starbucks in Ventura. If you're in my neighborhood. Does the other spouse know about it? No. So it's where you find a mistress or is also married.
Starting point is 00:33:01 You have to be married so it's like we're on the same page. We life is short, having a fair and anyway, they discover. I don't relate. They did not. They discovered. Well, I remember right when it happened, I was sort of obsessed. Who was on her, him. Him.
Starting point is 00:33:19 And she came on my show. She said it was a joke. He and his friends did it and they're named, and then there was like a scandal and they found a bunch of like, delus celebrities him being one of them, like a scandal of like, people that were on it. And when I was at Chelsea lately, I didn't put any photos or anything,
Starting point is 00:33:39 but we like, did it just to see. And I put in my zip code and I put my age and my name. And that is not my name, my age and my name. Yeah. And that is not my name, my age and where I lived. Okay. And immediately, guys wanted to meet me. And you didn't even have a photo. Didn't even have a photo.
Starting point is 00:33:55 No description of myself. Yeah, these do. There's scumbags. They were like, wait, and the guys say what if someone fasted them? I'm like, oh, but what if I went a little further and then people, and then I was in that article, and they're like, how the McDonald's on Ashi Madison? Well, it's a good thing you didn't.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Tsk. Tsk. Anyway, okay, so she helps with that. She helps save their, trying to help give their, and buy, she's like, you don't know his love language, you know, all these like terms. And then she also goes to Gina, and says, I'm here to help you with your wardrobe. Your wardrobe, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Let's clean out your closet, let's sophisticated. And she brings a rolling rack with two jackets on it. She goes, I brought you two different sizes. And she was, and then they go up here then close, and they find her wedding dress, they find her prom dress, and what can you do with this? And then she's like, now I really want you to try on this jacket.
Starting point is 00:34:51 I'm like, why is she pushing this light pink jacket so much that's like pretty average? Yeah. You know, you can just wear, you can zip it up, you can do the belt like this. I'm like, it's just a motorcycle jacket. Who the hell zips up a motorcycle? Like, yeah. Anyway, I'm like, I's just a motorcycle jacket. Who the hell zips up a motorcycle? Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Anyway, I'm like, I bet she's got aligned the same place that sells her skincare for Heather DeBros clothes. Because it was her jacket. And it was her jacket. But what's, and here it is. Is that, that producers are actually allowing her to talk about it for so long
Starting point is 00:35:22 and actually keeping the footage. Because that stuff usually is happening. Well, what happened if they did she said, because someone brought it up, she goes, it is my like clothing line. And I did, I didn't try to sneak it on. I did say it's from my line, but the producers cut that out. But I think the producers must be the same producers of their show on E. Mm. Yeah. Also, it's just. Also, there's a lot going on with the other cast members. Evolution produces OC. But maybe evolution also does a seven-year stitch or itch. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:52 If it on yet. Anyway, here's the jacket. I just know. It's cute. It is average. I'm sure there's like a, I'm sure there's a couple black sheeth dresses. You can never have enough. That's her style. Yeah, and you know why not Well, it's a Johnny, you know
Starting point is 00:36:09 No, but I'm sure it's not affordable. It's affordable. Yeah, okay. I mean everything like QBC issues pretty affordable but For easy payments I Could watch Heather to bro all day Then Emily I could watch Heather to grow all day. Then Emily, I could watch all day too. Emily had her baptism for her Mormon child. And I feel about that.
Starting point is 00:36:34 I think I gave her her storyline. She came on my show and I'm like, how the hell have you not had a conversation with your husband of 13 years about being Mormon? She's like, I don't know, I never asked him about it. I go, so it goes every Sunday. Yeah. And he gives 10% of your money to the Mormon church. Yeah. And you guys have never had a discussion about it. And so then this season had a discussion. Daughter got baptized. She's crying. And then the other part was kind of weird. Like, you're
Starting point is 00:36:58 such a great dad. And he's not great for the cameras either, though. I think he's a decent dude. But she's just like, I'm just sad because I didn't have a dad, and you're such a great dad. He's like, mm-hmm, I'm here. How much longer I have to sit on this couch with this guy, the cargo short sweating staring at us. Like, who is fucking move on?
Starting point is 00:37:17 It is, like a lot of viewers don't realize, like they judge these people on camera, and it's like, that's probably not even who they really are. It is awkward. I want you to sit down and have an intense conversation with your person and with a camera in your face and then a producer stepping in and being like, can we go back?
Starting point is 00:37:35 That was really interesting what you were saying. Can you elaborate on that feeling that you just talked about? And you're like, okay. So you go back into some other, like, you know, you'll elaborate even more on something that's usually cut out and you're exhausted by okay. So you go back into some other, like, you know, you'll elaborate even more on something that's usually cut out. And you're exhausted by the end of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:50 It's a lot of work. And then I also wonder, like whenever they're with the husbands, you know? Yeah. And then they're like, you know, they went on a five day trip to Miami or whatever and they come back. And then the husband's like,
Starting point is 00:38:02 so how is your trip to Miami? And I'm like, you're trying to tell us that you never talked about the fact that someone threw a drink at you and you're your former best friend now you hate. And you're like, well, it wasn't the trip I thought it was gonna be really what happened. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:17 You know what though? There's so many times that things would happen during filming and even though I film with my closest friends, I want it to be organic. So I'm like, I'm not telling you anything that happened until I actually see that. I'm not texting you. I'm not doing anything. And maybe with husband's too, they do that too. They're like, let me just tell you on coming. Maybe they learn, I remember Megan King Edmunds told me that with her, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:39 he would always look annoyed and bored by her. Yeah. Jim Edmunds, but that was because she would tell them all of it before and then they'd have to be forced to do this scene so it would be like regurgitated and he would actually be bored with the info. Yeah, but he's a dick. Well, in the end, obviously, it didn't work out. By the time she was like, I was a dick on camera and he turned out to be a dick, so. Speaking of dicks, Shana Mokler is supposedly pregnant with this guy who is absolutely awful. What is his name? Again, I want to say this and we look up his name,
Starting point is 00:39:12 the Shana Mokler. Domestic violence arrest? Yes, and I found this Instagram account that's all about what an awful person is. And he... How do you run, do? Run. person is and he there are according to what Matthew Ron do according to stuff he was like an aspiring model
Starting point is 00:39:34 cussled his way through a lot of things you know sexually and everything to get what he needed to do these are all alleged rumors about him. Okay. I've seen all these text messages where he's reaching out to people being like, I need money for this, I need money for that.
Starting point is 00:39:53 All these people that went to high school with him that just said he was the jock asshole. Yeah, he looks like he's absolutely horrible. She's 46 and allegedly pregnant according to her. She's only 29. She's like 29. She's like 29. She shared the pregnancy test. She announced she was pregnant. Wow, at 46.
Starting point is 00:40:10 With this guy who she has a restraining order against. Fuck. I'm kind of just like, I want to see where this is in a little bit, because this is a very strange story. It's a strange story. It seems very messy. And when did the restraining order take place because were they banging while the restraining order was like, this restraining happened
Starting point is 00:40:30 a week ago. Oh, so it is. Yeah, it is. Got to be his baby. But he also said she was cheating on him all the time. And that's why he freaked out on her on her Instagram. Well, there's quality tests for that. For all things. So yeah. So you know what though? I, and Shana Mokler is the ex of Travis Barker, who was just a big brother. Yeah, she looks really pretty in that photo. No, she is really pretty good. Yeah, but then someone posted her like a paparazzi photo
Starting point is 00:40:57 of her walking and she's holding her stomach and she's like this. And they said, tell me, tell me you want the world to know you're pregnant without telling me you want the world to know you're like, why is this, you know, she let out this information. She's now having people take photos of her like, yeah, you know, I kinda just wonder, let's just a little messy, right?
Starting point is 00:41:17 Yeah, let's just see. A lot messy. Yeah. I think that people should do background checks on the people that they're dating. Well, if she had, then this would have probably come out. But he was one of these people he always wore, according to these legend things. Fake Rolex, as Rolex is in every photo, he presented himself as having a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:41:41 He, you know, and he was just and and very awful to former girlfriends and well he he looks hot in this picture so he brings women in with his looks and then apparently he's just an asshole but I'm all about digging now and if a dude dude tells you that someone's crazy, that person's crazy, I'm gonna need to talk to this person. Oh, if they were like my ex-girlfriend's crazy. If my ex-girlfriend's crazy, or this person is crazy, my best friend's crazy, I need to talk to them.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Yeah. Because I think you may be the fucking crazy one. Right. Yes. You live and you learn. Right. So, but people that I hope she's not pregnant with this dick-wad-baby. People that were around them said that, you know, there were many other occasions where
Starting point is 00:42:34 he was treating her horribly. Like, you know, people witnessed it. So, I hope she's safe, regardless of, you know, being pregnant with, if it's his kid or not, I just hope she's like done with them and safe This was kind of interesting so this guy Terran Egerton who's in a move in a play called cock Okay, by the way the play is kind of juicy story anyway. He passed out on stage. He fainted on stage. Just like me I feel the only reason I'm laughing because of the way you say it. Do they know why? I mean, no, he's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:43:11 He's like, I don't know why I fainted. I'm fine. You know, he fainted with like 15 minutes left in the play or no. 45 minutes left in the play, he fainted. They took a 15 minute break and then the understudy came and finished the play. Oh my God. And, but no, they don't know why he did it. Is he okay? Did he have the cracked skull like you had?
Starting point is 00:43:28 I don't know. I don't think he's this bad office me, it's like me, but he's fine. Just doesn't know why he fainted. And, but the story of the play is pretty juicy. Well, it's called cock. It's about a gay guy who's been gay and out and has a boyfriend. Okay. Something I have been pushing for for a long time.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Okay. And then meets a woman in questions to sexuality. Oh. Oh. Yes. Late in life, hetero. Late in life, hetero. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:01 I want to see this play. Yeah. So I love it. Who's the chick? Who's the chick in the play? I don't know We only know him. Yeah, but I just read about the chick in the play needs to faint too and then her name will be everywhere Okay, I held Hillary a Baldwin to clear There's something like there's some fresh water. Would you like some water? I have some water. Okay. Hilaria Baldwin is just always concerned, you know, with everybody.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Wait, hold on, I didn't see what you posted. Okay. Okay, so first Hilaria Baldwin, she wrote this a few days ago. Yeah, yeah, I saw her. I was inspired today. So she wrote, hi friends, I'm going to take a social media, oh, I have to do the accent. Hey friends, I'm going to take a social media break. I promise I'll be back. I love you all and know you worry So want to give you a how do you say a heads up? I might check in from time to time dropping you a photo and letting you know
Starting point is 00:44:58 We are okay be good to yourselves and so much love and good energy to you See you soon and then HB for Hillary Apollot. I hate this so much. I might be dropping in to show you a photo. So you're on social media. So you're just doing what you've been doing. You're just conducting your presence on social media the way most people do.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Like what are you talking about? So it was pissed me off so much. So then I wrote my own. Okay, read it to me. Hey, friends, I'm going to take a social media break. I love you all and know you worry. So I want to give you a heads up. I'm not going missing. Please do not bother the police. They have enough on their plate. I have not been kidnapped. I am just putting my phone down. Do not start search parties in woodland hills to little hearts. I know my social break might ruin your day.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Because like, what? I didn't see a post from Heather today. Like, I, what the fuck is going on? So please forgive me. See you soon, H.M. I posted this like a couple of hours ago, and fortunately, about 90% of my followers that wrote comments seem to have gotten the joke.
Starting point is 00:46:04 OK. Sadly, 10% did not. And are like, wait, the podcast is going about 90% of my followers that wrote comments seem to have gotten the joke. Okay. Sadly, 10% did not. And are like, wait, the podcast's gonna be up tomorrow but they're all concerned. And they really believed it, but because I guess if you weren't aware of this, what did you do to let them know? Nothing, they can just worry for a little bit.
Starting point is 00:46:18 I told them not to call the police. But it's just like, the social media break posts are the most annoying because it's like, again, nobody, the only time I see somebody worry is when someone does into this and it's really been a long time, like three months, that I'll someone might go, hey, I used to follow so and so, do you don't happen? Like, yes. And, but don't worry about it. Like, taking a couple days off, you don't need to do a big announcement. It's not called a break. Like taking a couple days off, you don't need to do a big announcement. It's not called a break.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Yeah, a couple days off is not called a break. That just means you have a lot of people. But also I might be dropping in with a photo here or there. So it's like, if I look really good one night, I'm not, it's like lent. Like I'm giving up chocolate, but you know what? If it's like a really good dessert, and it's still during the 40 day,
Starting point is 00:47:03 like I might still just like have a bite but I'm not gonna have as much chocolate as I had pre-lent but I'm still gonna like give up just pretty much give it up for the most part. What do the comments say under hers? Do you know? Did you like any of them? I think they're all people, although she blocked links we tried to tag her so I think she only has people that like really lovers. So it's a lot of like we love you. Stank high, you know You know a well you know a well-deserved rest that kind of shit. Yeah, and then and then Alec the same day posted like a super flattering like Picture of her like naked with like one of the babies on her breasts looking up like in perfect sunlight. I can't
Starting point is 00:47:44 So like I'm taking a break. But again, if I look cute, this photo needs to get out. Does she have more followers than the other one? What's his name? Alex? Yeah. Maybe she's trying to get his following up.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Oh my God. She has nine-hundred and thirty-five thousand. Alex, I'm gonna guess, I'm gonna guess how many Alex has. Five-thirty-two. Do you have a guess? I'm gonna guess how many Alex Alex has five thirty two Let's say is at least in the sevens, okay? 2.4 million oh We have a lot more that I just killed my theory. Okay. Well, there you go 2.4 million
Starting point is 00:48:17 Yeah, damn all right. Oh, I love this son reported that if you've still not caught covert It might be down to how attractive you are are scientists say. Well, we should always trust the Sun, right? Well, they took it from an actual college study. Oh, did they? OK. Tell me more.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Basically, they took a bunch of people and asked them if they've caught COVID or not. And they found that the most attractive people based on symmetry of face, what is considered attractive, did not get it. And why do attractive people might have better immunity than unattractive people? And of course, I loved it because as you know, I have not had COVID, and you have not had COVID.
Starting point is 00:49:04 No, I haven't. I don't want to make people driving around other carls listening to this, that have had COVID twice to feel anything but cute. Okay, this is just a weird study. It doesn't even make sense. I mean, I, I, it has nothing to do with the way you look. I'm just gonna, I know I'm no genius,
Starting point is 00:49:24 but even I can say that. But I love studies about attractive people because what I was in college at USC, I remember the study where they did, where they showed babies, photos of attractive people versus what was deemed as unattractive. Okay. And how babies were always smiling
Starting point is 00:49:43 and looking at the attractive people and sometimes would like cry. Like, if someone wasn't cute. And so I told my sister this and at any time we would be out and like a cute baby would be like smiling at me, she'd be like, oh, because I'd be like, still got it. I still got like, they ain't like a baby knows what's cute because there's no one telling them like, no, be inclusive. They know what is like completely attractive. But models from the 80s attractive
Starting point is 00:50:13 is what a baby finds attractive. Like just old-fashioned, perfect face. According to the study that I... Yeah. I'm more in the zone of beauty is in the eye of the beholder So baby don't give a fuck about the beholder. They are the beholder. They like what they like they like what they like right I'm like saying if a baby is flirting with you and lying at a grocery store I think they can see your spirit just know I think they can see you
Starting point is 00:50:42 You're a good you look good. Oh See when ocean smiles at people I'm like she's got a good judge of character. She doesn't. It's because they're cute. Just saying. Just saying. But you could also say that either one of the both these studies don't make any sense. They don't make sense but I'm gonna go with it because I haven't had COVID yet. Yes, okay. So then to tell people, it's because I'm so damn good looking. Yeah. The sun told, they did a study. Or there might be another study.
Starting point is 00:51:13 There might be another study that comes out, have you not had COVID? Could be something wrong with you. That I'm ready to read that article in the sun next week too. So who knows? Oh God. How do you feel about the mask being gone?
Starting point is 00:51:25 I'm thrilled. I feel liberated. Really? Yeah. People can now see my whole face. So when I'm flirting with a guy, I can give a little tongue action along with the eyes, you know? Because it's a real...
Starting point is 00:51:38 You know what? I did see something that I am excited about because they were saying that this woman did a TikTok and she works at a daycare right before the mask went down and she's like, this is not helping our kids because they learn how to talk by seeing Mal's mood. Right. And so there might be some delay with children that are in daycare is where everyone had to wear masks. Oh, they'll catch up. But I'm just saying. How do you feel about the masks being gone? Oh my god, I'm completely thrilled. I'm sorry, I always went along with it. I never wanted to be that person.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Why aren't you wearing a mask? Yeah. But I think, I'll say it right now, I think we're gonna look back at this time and people are gonna make fun of it. Make fun of how we react to it, but whatever, I'm glad it's over with. Yeah, I mean, I am someone who like,
Starting point is 00:52:23 I will know when I'm afraid. Yeah. And this just never made me afraid. I wore my mask, I wanted to protect other people. If I didn't feel well, I stayed home, I always got my COVID test every 72 hours. I liked it when I didn't have makeup on or a giant set. Yeah, I mean, I...
Starting point is 00:52:40 You can still use the mask for that. Totally, you totally can use it for that. Like, I just was never afraid of it. I fell in line because people were telling me you have to wear a mask. So let's wear a mask. Let's keep people safe around me. Now that it's done, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:52:56 Do you think what's your prediction for you don't have to wear a mask on a plane? When is like, I think that's not gonna, I think we're gonna have to do that for a while. Like a whole nother year. Yeah, and I'm okay with that. I'm totally, I don that's not gonna, I know. No, I think we're gonna have to do that for a while. Like a whole nother year. Yeah, and I'm okay with that. I'm totally, I don't wanna make other people feel uncomfortable and unsafe.
Starting point is 00:53:10 I don't wanna be kicked off a plane. No, like, I'll wear the fucking mask if you want me to. If you say I don't need to, then I'm not gonna wear it. Right. Cause I like showing off my fabulous give them Lala lip liner. That's right. Oh, or lip gloss.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Just saying. Or lip gloss. This is my color. I have on just the contour of the clear. Clear. Which one is that pop off? Yeah. I didn't anyone the pinky. This kind of you a whole box. Thanks. Yeah, like some free shit. This is kind of interesting. So this story went viral over the weekend. It was a 13 part story on an Instagram. For humans of New York about this woman Venus who tells her story in these long posts.
Starting point is 00:53:57 And everyone was going crazy because they were like dropping them throughout the day, but you kind of had to keep checking. Is this woman the owner of the page of humans of New York? Or is she just featured on this? She's featured. And everyone's sending it to me. You've got to have this woman on your podcast. You've got to have this woman on your podcast.
Starting point is 00:54:11 And I started to read it and I was like, God, the story's familiar. Again, is there not a story I don't already know? Can someone give me a new story? Oh my God. I interviewed her. Oh, you already did it? And afterwards she said, I won't let you use it. No. Yeah. Who is this person? She is a woman who was her story is. She was married, had six kids with her college sweetheart.
Starting point is 00:54:40 They were the pillars of the community, they had the perfect life. And then one day she found out he had a whole second, you know, whole another life of prostitutes, in debt, giving prostitutes money. And then, um, and then something worse happened and he went to prison. Okay. She's kind of, it's in there, but like, I don't want to. So anyway, I interviewed her for this, you know, for my thing, and then she was like,
Starting point is 00:55:11 I don't want you, you know, I don't want you using it, or I'll redo it. I can't remember what happened. And I was like, okay, fine, you know, whatever. So I reached out to her and she said, okay, you know, maybe at a later date. Okay. Basically blowing me off now to redo it. Because now she's on humans of NY.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Yeah. She's told her all stories. So no, she doesn't. She has an agent, everything. But when I went back and she had done podcasts prior to mine, that were not juicy scoop. And I listened to them. And then I listened to mine. And yes, I looked back at the emails and she said, those other interviews and also this guy didn't ask me the questions you asked me, the specific questions. And I'm not comfortable with what I revealed.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Oh, wow. So I know the real juicy scoop. And I'm not a liberty to tell if you've told me I'm not sure, I won't. But I will just say, I think that it does not completely match up with the TED Talk narrative that is in this. Okay. And, you know, of just, because I listened to the old, a previous interview, it was very much.
Starting point is 00:56:35 So you still have it. Yeah. And it was very much, you know, I pulled myself off of the booster apps and became this fabulous realtor. Okay. And very much like you can do it too. And like this is how I did it and very like Christian and everything, which is all super
Starting point is 00:56:49 inspiring. I'm not taking that from her. But the way I interview, I go, wait, stop. But what about this? And I would ask these other questions. Okay. And so it's not as a rehearsed narrative. And so that's it. Oh wow. Yeah, that's an art though. Yeah, I mean when I read that's in art
Starting point is 00:57:11 I mean just stick to a script. Yeah, like I that's why I do reality TV though Yeah, because it's like what do you want to know like these are the facts? Yeah Hmm seems exhausting like these are the facts. Yeah. Hmm. Seems exhausting. It was, I mean, it wasn't. I mean, I'm just like, yeah, I was kind of bummed
Starting point is 00:57:29 because it's like, no, I did find this interesting story and it's just annoying when everyone's like, like, all going crazy over it. And I'm like, really? Because I know, I did it before and I spent all this time. But like, now I'm like, it's not worth it, but I just wanted the juicy scoopers to know. I did it, I got it before and I spent all this time, but like now I'm like, it's not worth it, but I just wanted the juicy scoopers to know. I did it, I got it, and you know,
Starting point is 00:57:50 but if someone tells me I'm not comfortable with something, I don't put it out, I'm not going to. No, because you also don't want to loss it on your hands. No, not at all, but she did sign a release. Anyway, she had just blinds. I was gonna ask that. No, but that paper is sitting there ready for me every time I walk in.
Starting point is 00:58:07 She has her book. That's what she wants to sell. All right. That's the story that she wants told and maybe not what was portrayed in my podcast. Okay. Okay. Love is blind season two reunion.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Did you argue for a million with it? I'm familiar with love is blind and I have to say I was so underwhelmed by the first season that I didn't even tune into a second. Well the reunion was pretty dull. The main thing is is there's a guy named Sheik who is. She is the one. Which one is he? This one right here. Okay. He threw out with the girl that he chose, kept saying on camera, I'm not physically attracted to her, I'm not attracted to her, but we're still getting it married, I'm not attracted to her, but I do like her personality. We're both Indian, I never thought I'd wanted an Indian girl, but like I really like her.
Starting point is 00:58:59 And so in the end, she's like FU and she doesn't marry him, okay? And then on this, everyone loves her, but he, coming on the screen, she's like FU and she doesn't marry him, okay? And then on this, everyone loves her, but he, coming on the street and you're knowing that everyone hated him for it, he basically kept saying, come on you guys, we knew we had to find somebody to stay on the show. And all these other people are like, that's you, that's you. And he just kept like breaking the fourth wall
Starting point is 00:59:21 being like, come on you guys, like this is why we're here. We're on the to do the show. Yeah. And like, whatever, but he comes off awful. And nobody else would admit it. But yeah, that's pretty much it. And then that was like the juiciest thing that happened. Kind of was pretty dull. And then this guy, you know, Shane, he was with this girl Natalie. He's the one that's always like with his face and his eyes. And he was, came off better. He was like really kind of sad about the breakup with Natalie.
Starting point is 00:59:52 And the one's sitting there sad in the black shirt. But no, no, in this one. So this is perfect because someone said, love is blind, summed up in one photo. And yeah, so Shane got his heart broken by Natalie, but that was after he had a horrible fight with her the night before. Shake the vet said, I'm not attracted to you. Deep, so whatever her name is, this guy was an atheist who got with a Christian who dumped him like the minute they got to Mexico. And then this other
Starting point is 01:00:20 one, Salvador, he was an aspiring ukulele player who was always playing as ukulele on camera constantly, developed to get a record deal. He dumped his girl in the end. So only two made it. Two made it, two groups made it. Yeah, here they are. The genetic Iana made it and Nick and Danielle made it. And we never even heard from Nick and Danielle at all in the reunion.
Starting point is 01:00:48 So they just sat there? They just sat there and they're happy still. Oh. So that's all, you don't need to watch it. Oh, real house of the sun makes favorite top watch. Last nights? Yeah, no, I haven't watched it yet. It got, that was the second one, right?
Starting point is 01:01:03 Yes, it got deeper into the fact that Meredith, this is just days after they recorded this, just days after Meredith heard, Lisa Barlow's recorded rant, which she says was to herself, but there is photos from the show that you see that was a producer in her room. Then she opens up the door and throws her mic, but in the corner of the room, you see
Starting point is 01:01:26 there's a man in there. So you do see a cameraman in the room? Not necessarily a cameraman. But there's a producer. There's a producer. So she could have thought she was... She had to do something. I think she was venting to the producer.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Venting to the producer and not thinking that it would be used. 100%. I bet she didn't know that a camera followed her upstairs and that they were outside and I want to say it is the worst. I mean it's you cannot get past I don't know how Meredith will ever forgive her. I would there's no way there's no way that I can say she's a horse. She says she screwed half of New York and he reads the whole thing with it being beeped out that her family is fake and poses they can't afford a home because her husband has changed She says she's a horror. She says she screwed half of New York. Andy reads the whole thing with it being beeped out
Starting point is 01:02:05 that her family is fake and poses. They can't afford a home because her husband has changed jobs every five minutes. Yeah, and she's just apologizing. And I mean, how about you? There's like, how about you wanna stay on the show and have lunches with these people? Because I mean, I cannot imagine.
Starting point is 01:02:21 There's no coming back from it. Yeah. Because they were friends. It would be one thing, like like because Katie and I have gone toes in the past. Yeah. But we didn't like each other. Right. If we were to say those things to each other now, friendship done. We don't need to ever be around each other ever again. This is a 10 year friendship. There's no coming back. And these people couldn't stand her as it was without that. But here's the thing. If those really are your thoughts, and you just said them out loud by yourself in your room without a reality show, yeah. That's what's so crazy is because I think we've all had
Starting point is 01:03:00 friendships where take reality show out of it. Something, someone's drunk, someone says something, or you realize, ooh, that's how you think of me. I know I can't continue being friends with someone. Like I'm kind of like, I'm out. Like, you know, your truth came out. So, but there are people that talk behind people's backs and stuff and think like that But it's never revealed and they do remain for they do go on with the friendship But that's how they really feel but not Meredith because also have horrible thoughts about Lisa Barleto
Starting point is 01:03:35 She just never verbalized it and got caught. Yeah, she verbalizes it to like her husband Yeah, because even if you say that to a producer Producers are not your friends. Yeah. Either way, I always tell newbies, do not trust them. If you have something that you don't want spoken about, like you go call your mama.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Yeah. Don't talk to them because they will finagle it in somehow. Of course. Always. That's their job too. Yes. It's like my sister who is a criminal defense attorney. She's like cops not your friend. No If you're being arrested or if they're like, we just want to talk to you about why your husband's missing. They're not your friend. No
Starting point is 01:04:14 I need a lawyer immediately They're like cast some coffee. Let's just snuggle here and no no And they like sit there in those interrogation rooms. Yeah, so that was pretty much Oh, I did was gonna write I wrote one note done. I want to forget was not like the other thing was all about her dad dying Meredith's dad died. Yes, timeline of the dad dying and This is what I caught still confused when they were in the van of when Jen got arrested by the FBI that day, Lisa calls Meredith and it's like, I'm so sorry to bother you. I know you're with your family. Correct. Meredith says, actually, I was in fail and the thing was the day before in Aspen the
Starting point is 01:05:12 The wait memorial or whatever and then she says I was actually in the bathtub when she called me So she was in the bathtub and then got out of the bathtub and then went back into the bathtub on the same day when they all arrived So she could look like she didn't care about Jen Now who's a fucking phony bitch? That is weird. You already took a bath earlier in the day and I guess the producers were like it was so funny. We walked away saying the bathroom. Do you mind eating back in the bathtub with the line? I'm going to I'm going to defend her right now. Okay, do it. I take like six baths a day. There's nothing like getting into a bath, filling it up, and just sitting in it.
Starting point is 01:05:49 I don't believe that you take six a day. Okay, when I was really depressed, when I went to the other house, it was intense. It was like six baths a day, because I was so, like you just take that. How many times do I want? Tell me a timeline. In the morning I would wake up and take a bath.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Then I would work and watch housewives and then I would be like, I'll get back in the bath. And then I would get out and I would do whatever I needed to do and I then would put a... No, 100% six baths a day. So I'm gonna defend her on this. All right, I also could have been like, I'm bored, I'm going send six bads a day. Okay. So I'm gonna defend her on this. All right, I also, I've been like, I'm bored.
Starting point is 01:06:27 I'm going back to it. I also want to talk to all stylists on TV shows and reality stars and housewriters. And how's rice? And all of these. No, I'm not gonna get into the outfits. I'm gonna get into something else that's really important. Okay, tell me.
Starting point is 01:06:39 That I remember from I Chelsea lately days. Okay. The bottom of your shoes in a talk show situation are extremely important. Okay. Sometimes I've seen people have the price tag of a discounted price tag stuck on them because the stylist didn't know.
Starting point is 01:06:54 In this case, the red bottoms were very scraped. So if you are going to be on a reunion, just do not even barely walk in those red bottoms, have the guy bring them while you sit down, do pull an Oprah. She's tough people put on her shoes for her show. Or if they are scraped up and you love them, you don't want to wear a new pair, just make sure that they're not showing because a bunch of them are showing their scraped up red bottoms throughout this entire reunion.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Good to know, because can I tell you, I actually go outside their scraped up red bottoms throughout this entire reunion. Good to know because can I tell you I actually go outside and scrape up my red bottoms because I feel like I'm gonna fall. They're like too slick but you're right. I always show those scrapes. I don't have a bottom. Have you ever seen me in an interview or anything where my red bottoms are scratched? No because your interviews are like, the interpromise is always further up. Yeah. And then I don't even feel like in big greeners
Starting point is 01:07:50 where you're all sat down, there wasn't like your low couches. You were still in higher shares. Look at the shoes on when you sit down. Get a new pair of shoes for the reunion or interviews and sit down and then put them on. I also know that there's a guy in Beverly Hills that will paint the bottoms of red shoes. That's his red shoes. That might not even be red. I don't know where he is, but that's a rumor of
Starting point is 01:08:11 very rich women that would do that. They weren't even really red bottoms? Correct. Oh no, I wouldn't do that. I'm telling you. Well, some of the listeners might. Yeah, they would. I would not. I'm sure there's, I'm sure if you asked a shoe man, they probably don't how to do it. 100% or can you repaint these red bottoms? I would repaint red bottoms, but I don't need to pretend like I'm wearing red bottoms. Miami. By the way, I think this is the best reunion looks I've ever seen. They all look so fantastic.
Starting point is 01:08:39 I love every single dress. I love the combo with each other. Look at the comparison. No, this, I know. Between the feathers, awful feathers, velvet, awful of salt Lake versus the day sunnig glitz. It's all so good. They all look so hot.
Starting point is 01:09:00 I'm obsessed with the Larsa fight that she had with Adriana about her BBL. Me too. Or Ariana, she had with Adriana about her BBL. Me too. Our or our on it, whatever name is Adriana, Adriana, I think it's Adriana or something. I don't know about that. She said, a Larsa just be honest, you know, like you had a flat ass when we were on the show before and now it's big. And Larsa's just like, because I was 105 pounds, I'm 140 now, I'm athletic.
Starting point is 01:09:24 You're not. I work out. Savage. And she's just like, I'm sorry, just say it, just say it, and she's like, I love it when people go. Can you just be honest about your plastic surgery? And someone's like, I've never had anything down to my face, just a little lip filler, a little lip,
Starting point is 01:09:40 a little filler in my jaw, Botox around my eyes, a little bit here, a tiny bit of cheek filler here, but no, no surgery. No surgery. No surgery. Oh, and I had my boobs done, yeah, something like who does it twice. And you're like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:09:57 Like just go, yeah, I'm like all about it. So, Larsa, like that was interesting. And then I'm excited about next week because they bring up this girl, who's this doctor, I forgot her name Nicole. Nicole. She's like, is there an NDA with you? And card actions, like, why can't you talk about it?
Starting point is 01:10:19 And I think that there's got to be. Yeah, that's gonna be kind of interesting. There's 100%. And also she just doesn't want to piss them off. Well, would you? No. But I talk about them all the time, but whatever. But you're a savage on another level.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Yeah, but she, so anyway, that's kind of juicy. And so my whole thing with the injections or boobs jobs, butt jobs, I feel like for me, I need to be honest about anything and everything I'm having done. And here's why. There are people that are looking at my Instagram or watching me on TV that live elsewhere. And I'm not about to sit here and make them think that I haven't touched myself that way and with needles because I'm touching myself daily. Like, I just don't feel comfortable with that. Yeah, I don't like it.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Like, it makes people feel insecure. It's like I, I want to know if she had her butt done because I would like to go there. Well, um, I would like my ass done. And for some reason, no one wants to talk about their ass is being. Don't get Joe. Don't get Joe. Figure ass. Thanks.
Starting point is 01:11:28 It's going on a style. Um, listen, uh, this is for this girl, uh, Julia, she's the lesbian. Yeah, I love her. The her tragic story about her baby. So she had a baby that was 10 months old, uh, with this guy who was this, they weren't married and he was very powerful. Yes. And she hires a nanny tells a whole story she hired a nanny who she got through his secretary this woman shows up and within like
Starting point is 01:11:55 seven days or something of the woman being there the child in the hospital with shaken uh... death syndrome yeah and the baby dies and the nanny disappears. She never, there's no convictions. There's nothing, no investigation. This is also, I think this was in Paris or something. And then the, and then the guy, his girlfriend meets her for lunch and says, are you still sleeping with the baby daddy? Even though our son said, she's like, no.
Starting point is 01:12:26 And then she says, well, I know the truth about your baby dying. And she's just so disgusted like she runs away. But then a little bit after that, that same woman murders him. Yeah. Murders the guy during a dominatrix thing where he's head to toe latex. Yeah, but the story was in the press back in the day that he was suffocated due to the latex dominat. Yeah. What's her name again? Julia. Julia said that he was shot. Oh. Julia said that he was shot. Oh.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Didn't you hear her say that? Yeah, and they were union. But if we look it up right now, does it say a shot? I didn't look it up. You're the juicy scooper. Oh, okay. Well, I'm too tired. I think that it was proven that she was convicted, the mistress of killing him.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Yeah, she went away. Yeah. Anyway. The story is unbelievable.ham. Yeah, she went away. Yeah. Anyway. The story is like unbelievable. Yeah. And then she... And the baby was 10 months old. Yes.
Starting point is 01:13:30 It wasn't like 10 months old, ocean is fully like all babies. No, it's horrible. It's just like the saddest story. And she comes off great. I mean, I think this cast is, and I think the show is really good. I don't want to see anybody go. I don't see the show continue and I do think it should be on Bravo though and not peacock. I think they were smart to launch some things on peacock to get people to join peacock.
Starting point is 01:13:56 But then again I think they've been showing the peacock stuff like the real half-fifths ultimate girls trip. It's now you can see it on Bravo. So they'll probably, I mean, I hope that they throw this on instead of the Blow Decks 24-7, throw this on Bravo and then absolutely have a comeback. I just don't understand how this is on Peacock, but Summer House is on Bravo. Do you watch that?
Starting point is 01:14:21 Well, I just think they just don't, no, I don't really watch it. No, I don't. I just think they didn't know that, I don't really watch it. No, I don't. I just think they didn't know that this would be so good. Such a head. Yeah, no, it's bomb. It's really good. Oh, I will talk about this.
Starting point is 01:14:32 This is really crazy. Without a crystal ball is a YouTube account, and it's also a Instagram. And people have been sending this to me about all these dancers, these TikTok dancers that are under part of this church under this guy named Robert Shen out in Santa Anna. Okay. And he is also their management company, 7M. And they're on Ellen all the time. And this girl has a brother has a sister and Parents that are like they were all dancing together She and her boyfriend at the time at their home during the start of the pandemic. They were all close
Starting point is 01:15:16 She ends up marrying her boyfriend. They go and join this church and this management company The parents are doing their own lives with their other daughter, pleading that they've not been able to talk to their daughter for a year. And this girl without a crystal ball has just gone really deep in what is going on with all these dancers.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Ellen is using the dancers all the time. And it's just like, it's interesting because I'm reading it all now. I don't know a lot about it. Like it's a cult kind of. It is, they're claiming. It's a cult or, you know, but they also manage them. So they're money and everything and getting and working together to dance and their gigs and their commercials and everything are under this seven-end management, which is tied to this church run by the sky. This guy. But they know what the church leaves in.
Starting point is 01:16:14 It's hard to find stuff on it on the church. You can't walk into the church. It's like this really weird thing, but here are some of the people that are part of it that all have a lot of followers Miranda Derrick is one Kylie Douglas Aubrey Fisher Kendrick K.O. Wilson now these these the answers are not doing anything wrong People and their loved ones are concerned that they can't talk to them Well, that would be a concern of my and and that they are not that they're kind of and and I see it as this totally makes sense
Starting point is 01:16:48 while you, why you would get sucked in as a dancer. It's so hard to get work as a dancer. Now you're kidding work. You're collaborating with other people. You're, you know, these are your friends, your family, your spouse, they're all part of it. If you leave, it's like, well, you may never dance again. You're not going to be associated with this.
Starting point is 01:17:09 You're not going to get these commercials. You're not going to... And it's so hard to, as an artist, like, oh my God, I remember I had this one manager that got me into a couple clubs and I was so excited. Right. And then realized he wanted to fuck me any borrowed money from me. And I still was like, I don't know if I can get rid of this manager. Like before him, I wasn't a regular at IgBs. Like I was literally like, Heather, what are you doing? I mean, eventually like
Starting point is 01:17:40 got rid of him and nothing happened. You know, but he did still owe me money. But I was, I was like, yeah, you're just so desperate. It's the church part though. That's, yeah. By the way, I come from Utah. So anything that has to do with religion freaks me out, you know, I just spiritual great all day. But when you tell me that there's a church involved, I mean, I've seen so many that woman who like, all these people around her
Starting point is 01:18:06 Ended up dead and she was in Hawaii getting married because she had joined some Oh right the faith or what I forgot her name, but yeah, the one that killed that killed her kids Yeah, yes, that's what's strange to me. I don't think that people would cut off their families Over like wanting to be a dancer that doesn't. So this girl was doing this girl who is, this is Miranda, who's sister and parents are pleading with her to get a hold of her. She did a live and without a crystal ball picked it up and showed little clips of it and all the fans are running like call your family and she's looking at it being like, okay, let's see if he's out of here. Like she's reading all the stuff and then she's like, oh, hair tattoo, tutorial, okay.
Starting point is 01:18:58 And then she's just like reading the Bible and all this other stuff. And when they've been on Ellen these dancers. Bible and all this other stuff and someone's going on and When they've been on Ellen these dancers. Yeah, and people are writing under Ellen social media like this You've got to look at this. They're part of this thing. Please check it out and make sure these dancers are not being exploited and they're they're safe That does all get removed And then they all get removed and then Ellen had on this guy who's a dancer, it's Slavic and he's from the Ukraine, so he sat down to talk about what's going on in the Ukraine, which is obviously terrible,
Starting point is 01:19:39 but these dancers are constantly on Ellen. Really? But I'm like, either are constantly on Ellen. Really? But I'm like, either the Ellen people are even on the stage. But the thing is, is that they're just these dancers that constantly are doing work that this one man has become. Who are they dancing for?
Starting point is 01:19:57 I don't know any of these people. I know we don't know, but like people that in the dance world know. And are they dancing for Beyoncé? On Torra, Katy Perry? Yes, they get gigs, they get big works. but like people in the dance world know. And are they dancing for Beyonce? I can't talk. I mean, it's not. Yes, they get gigs, they get big work. They get sponsors, they do dances,
Starting point is 01:20:10 and a lot of the choreography is being re- like they use it for numerous different things. They're on TikTok, they're doing different shows. I know it's very confusing, but I just kind of wanted to put it out there because I think it's very confusing, but I just kind of wanted to put it out there because I think it's one of these things that the person who's hiring them to do this stuff, they don't want to know about this. They know the number to call, hi, 7M, can you bring 12 dancers to do this Corolla commercial?
Starting point is 01:20:39 Yeah. Okay, my job is done. They don't want to know that these kids might not be getting their money. They don't want to know that these kids are strapped in something. Oh my god. Nobody wants to complicate their simple job. Right.
Starting point is 01:20:55 But I want to just get people talking without a crystal ball is doing her job. But you're doing your job too. She's getting it, she's getting shut down too. And I just want to investigate it, if everybody's fine, and you know, but like just look into it, because I could see why someone who's an artist is so happy to be doing their art,
Starting point is 01:21:15 and so happy to be making any money at all. Not enough that you can't have. And so happy to be with the friends and for you to be cutting off your family. These people are saying call your Grammy, she's in the hospital, and the woman is ignoring it. That's called something ain't right. Right.
Starting point is 01:21:30 Yeah, yeah. We're gonna wrap this up, but I wanted to just do one more thing that I thought was really juicy. Okay, you know what the Kanye video, this weird Kanye video that he did. No. Well, he's done these videos where one head looks like Pete Davidson and another one look like this other guy. And this person, there's a theory. This is just a theory that the other head is based on, this is just speculation. said the dip capitated had in use new video is bob shabick c-e-o-o-of-dysney
Starting point is 01:22:09 so some people believe that conier believes that this guy who is ahead of c-e-o-which owns hulu he they think he believes that they put him with pate with Pete Davidson together to help launch the Return of the Kardashians on Hulu. Okay, and that is why this head resembles the sky in His severed head video
Starting point is 01:22:38 You guys it I feel I also think I also think Hulu doesn't need any help to get people to watch the Kardashians on Hulu Honestly, all they had to do was post that story that they all posted and I was like I'm watching it Yeah, but they always do I don't need Kim to be dating Pete Davidson to watch either. Yeah, yeah I could watch Kim literally just sit there just eat a salad get ready. Yeah, that's all they've ever done Yeah, and it is they've ever done. Yeah. And it is just that interesting. Right. So he's got to calm down.
Starting point is 01:23:11 Because what people don't understand is there's crazy fans out there who Kanye says these little stupid fucking things takes one crazy fan that says, I'm going to be the hero and does something. And that's what they're concerned about, you know. But it should be a concern. And then someone's like, why can Kanye act this way?
Starting point is 01:23:31 Why is Kanye not in a concernorship yet? Britney Spears was. Well, they have nothing to do with each other. Britney Spears family did that to her. Being like she's a woman, he's a man. And at one time, it was rumored that they were trying to get him help. His family being, you know, the Kardashians.
Starting point is 01:23:50 He needs help. But, you know, who knows? So. But when someone has that much money in power, it's like really hard to control a situation. Yeah. But like what he's doing to her, is- Have you watched the doc about his stuff?
Starting point is 01:24:04 I did. Did you like it? I loved it. But it also made me sad because he was so bright and vibrant and like so into his craft. And I think after he lost his mom is when things just... So people were saying like that the way you talked to on his mom was like so brilliant because and so fabulous
Starting point is 01:24:20 that I want to be that kind of mother because she like built him up so much. Yeah. And when you lose that, yeah, you're devastated. But then is that the greatest way to be a mom though? Like, like if you build up your child so much that if anything changes that they can't, I don't know, not that she caused this like state of mind, I'm sure she was a wonderful mother. But like, and I have not watched it. I was kind of watching him. I think she was a wonderful mother.
Starting point is 01:24:51 I mean, that is the way to be. But like, I don't know. And then they said, well, of course, he, which is what I said, he produced himself. So it only showed the greatest stuff. It didn't show all the awful things he did. It was like, he reduced it himself. And people aren't blind to that.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Yes, the documentary was great. But what he does to her on a daily basis, it's not funny, it's not cute, it's not entertaining, it's disgusting. No, and it's scary. It's scary. You know, kind of some crazy shit. Oh, I just wanted to share with you this couples engaged. Who is this? This is the Patriot's owner. Oh, Robert Kraft and his girlfriend. She's a doctor, Dana Blumberg, are engaged. And the news was revealed by Tommy Hill figure out the inaugural Amphar Galapalm beach event
Starting point is 01:25:47 over the weekend. Can you just look up their ages? I'm just curious. Wait, I think the craft sent me a baby gift. Who's the craft? The craft. Robert Craftsson sent Oatina a bunch of patriots stuff. Wait, we'll get to go to some patriot game.
Starting point is 01:26:04 I mean, you know, I just want to know the, just the age difference is kind of cute. What is it? What is it? I'm, I'm in a guess he's 76 and I'm going to guess she's 37. Now you guess. I'm, I'm in the same boat as you. You have to pick a different thing. I think, he's got to be pushing 80.
Starting point is 01:26:24 Okay. You give me a number and I bet she's, I bet she's, I bet she's, I'm going the same boat as you. You have to pick it up. I think he's got to be pushing 80. Okay, you give me a number. And I bet she's, I bet she's 38 to 39 and I bet he's 79. Okay, well he looks like he's pushing 80. He looks like he's pushing 80. But she looks in her 40s. Doesn't she look for a crop top? She has a doctor though.
Starting point is 01:26:45 No, I changed my answer. She's 43. Okay. He's definitely almost 80. He's got to be 80. And I'm going with she's 37. He's 76. Her eyes are telling her age because she looks wise.
Starting point is 01:26:59 She's 80 and she's 47. Okay. Because she looks amazing. but her eyes have wisdom. See, it's all in the eyes. It's 47 and 80. How do you feel about that age difference? I think it's horrific. I think it's horrific.
Starting point is 01:27:16 I think no, mm-mm. I will go no younger than 28 and no older than 38. I guess when you of that age. And she's a doctor, she's worked her whole life. She's probably like, you know what? I don't fucking care to fuck anybody. Let me just go to the games and have some fun parties in Palm Beach.
Starting point is 01:27:35 And in a few years, I'll be able to do anything. I don't pretty much, you probably can do anything she wants now, but then she'll really be able to do anything she wants. That's what I just think and if I enjoy talking to him and stuff No, she doesn't She doesn't they have nothing in common Take it from someone. I'm like really do you think they even have football in common? No No, I think it's a bunch of no
Starting point is 01:28:03 It's an imagine going home and being together by yourselves. Yeah. Oh, no, I can't think of anything worse. Oh, I do want to end because I do want to, I did forget to say this. I mean, even in that photo, she doesn't look like she's enjoying it. Oh, when I was talking about Kanye and his,
Starting point is 01:28:20 you know, his new girlfriend, she did admit to having a BBL, a Brazilian butt lift. Who did? His new girlfriend, the one that looks just like Kim Kardashian. She admitted to it? Yeah. Cheney Jones. Cheney, yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:34 She's really pretty. She said, this is my face, but I have had a BBL. I think she was another one that was like, at a little botox and an archel, I don't know what she said, but she definitely said I've had a BBL. See, I respect that so much. She's very had, yeah. But she doesn't, like, and I think her boobs are real.
Starting point is 01:28:53 They hang in a real way. I think she might have said that too. Anyway, she made a statement. Actually, can you look up her Insta? She said it on her Insta. She's like, I know a lot of people are coming to get to know me and I'm just gonna let me in speculate on me and this is me I'm glad I look like I
Starting point is 01:29:10 Look like Kim because I've always looked like Kim shouldn't say that but she I mean that's her face You can tell she doesn't look like someone that went into a doctor's office to look like Kim K Yeah, to me. Yeah. Oh, and then Julia That's her name. I'm got jobs. I'm got jobs. Yeah. Um, Julia Fox. Julia Fox said that having the Birken that Kanye gave her has given her so much anxiety that she's constantly worried about it, where it is, if it's safe, if someone's gonna try to steal it, cause it's worth $10,000. And then people are like,
Starting point is 01:29:47 wait, aren't you a mother? Like shouldn't be a mob be something that you worry about more than your bag? And like, why don't you just get rid of the bag then why don't you just go to the real real and fucking get rid of it? I will say, since when I got the Birken, I really didn't care about its safety.
Starting point is 01:30:08 You have a Birken? Yeah, I do have one. Okay. And what was it for, special occasion? My engagement gift. Okay. Yeah. And it is real I had it looked at.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Okay. The ring was shit, but the bag was real. Okay. And yeah, and I especially don't care about it now that I'm a mom. Like, I would do you take it out? Rarely, it's kind of big. What color is it?
Starting point is 01:30:33 It's like the camel color. It's a gorgeous bag, but I'm definitely not like worried about it, safety. Yeah. I will say though, when I made my exit from the home, I got an Airbnb like in the Hollywood Hills lockdown and I rented the whole building and the woman comes and she's like, can you Venmo me the payment? And I was like, Oh, no, no, no, can't have a paper trail.
Starting point is 01:31:03 I get my broken out with a bag of fucking cash. And I think this woman was like, who the fuck is this? And why is she paying me like 14 grand in cash? And I'm just lost right now. Like her whole life is in this building right now. Like there's boxes everywhere. What the fuck? I was telling her, I'm like, don't be alarmed.
Starting point is 01:31:28 I'm not a squatter. All of this stuff is going to be moved out. But that was the only time I was concerned about where the work in bio was. Are you on the Netflix episode? Worst roommate. It's not a real thing. Yeah, there's one that's two-parter, that's about the serial squatter,
Starting point is 01:31:47 but the guy that would move it. So, okay, so Eddie was so, there you go with the bags. Yeah. People thought, you know, he gave her friends each one too. And they're like, you know, I would. That's for him 10,000 is nothing. Right. But, I mean, then you break up.
Starting point is 01:32:06 I just feel that if I was in that situation and my friends and my friends, boyfriend gave us all the handbag, certain friends, I think would definitely call me back and be like, all right, give it to me. Yeah. Like, you know, you don't just like, I'm not even with him anymore.
Starting point is 01:32:21 Yeah, but he's funny in West. He's not worried about a 10,000 taller guy. I'm just saying, I think the girl. Julia will call her girlfriends and be like give it back. Yeah, like I worked my ass off like literally had to wear latex like every day. And now with this widow and boot pants. And now it's over like the money train
Starting point is 01:32:41 and the publicity are over. Do you really think you as my friend is a $10,000 bag? You don't. It's sad because no one talks about her anymore, right? Do they? No, I mean, I just did. Just to throw a bone. And no, but she's really sweet.
Starting point is 01:32:57 She's really sweet. No, she's not. I listened to the whole interview. She's, oh, I see. I didn't even hang out with her. She's a buddy at yours. How do you know she's so sweet? No, she, I didn't listen to her interview. She's always say I didn't hang out with her. She's buddy at yours. How do you know she's so sweet? No, she I didn't listen to her interview. I just
Starting point is 01:33:10 Someone text me. I was like holy shit. Did you know Julia Fox follows you? And I was like who's that? She's really sweet because she's one of her 1.2 million followers 1.7. Sorry. I know I can't get it up. It's like the craziest shit. It's crazy shit. I did it too. It's almost as stressful as my broken back. It's stressful and all. It's just annoying. It's just annoying. I've been at 28. I like ever. I looked at my DMs and she wrote me a really kind message and I told her what did she say? She was just like, you've inspired me so much. Thank you for sharing your story. Like Lala Katch. She's like really
Starting point is 01:33:50 inspiring. If that makes sense. If that makes sense, she's really inspired. I just like, I love her five. She's a mother too. You know what I'm saying? If that makes sense. Sorry. I don't know that I could like go travel with Kanye West though without my baby. I'd be like, yay, we gotta get some latex for O. She's gotta be in Paris for Fashion Week. Where is the baby? Oh, when she was traveling around, I think the baby was fine, but the baby was not with that.
Starting point is 01:34:24 Well, the baby was not coming. The baby's not coming. His four kids weren't I think the baby was fine, but the baby was not with that was fine The baby's not coming his four kids weren't coming her baby was going it was for kids need to stay with just a weird little thing They did for like two and a half weeks and it was over with I mean that's all it was I Alright, man. I'm not like a fucking eternity. It's out really long. It was way long. Yeah It's really long. It was way long. Yeah. Lala, what else? Tell us everything.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Well, you can buy, give them Lala Beauty products, that give them Lala.com. You can follow me at give them Lala. Give me to two million. It's really just like the first time. Give me to 300,000. I'm at 288. You should have millions.
Starting point is 01:35:03 I know, I should. I know. I should. You're the only. I know, I should. I know. You're the only person I never think about muting. Thank you. That's welcome. That could be a hallmark card. You're the only person I think about not muting. Lala can't.
Starting point is 01:35:21 Can we make a little card like that for tomorrow's show? That's cute. Yeah. Psych. It's cute. Yeah. It's actually like really sweet. I love muting people. I feel like it's changed the button though. I don't know, I have to find that button again. Sometimes I get annoyed because I'm like, I swear I muted this person and it's like,
Starting point is 01:35:39 oh, it's because I only clicked photos and not stories. Oh. And why do you mute someone? What is the main reason? But beside, you don't want to follow them because a freak fan will find out that you stop following them, right? Yes. So you want to mute them because why? Sometimes they're over-posting. I'm sure people mute me because I'm constantly like give them all a lip gloss, give them all-posting. I'm sure people mute me because I'm constantly like, give them all a lip gloss,
Starting point is 01:36:07 give them all a lip gloss. I'm sure all my friends have mute it as well. I don't think you post that much. Maybe on stories, you post more stories, but great is very rare, I think, for you. Social media is really tough for me. The day that I don't have to have it, I'm handing it over to someone else.
Starting point is 01:36:23 That's why I took a break today. Yeah. And I hope my followers are okay. And no one calls the police. Don't call the police. She's fine. I'm looking at her. She's totally fine. Okay, so okay, you have your Lala Beauty.
Starting point is 01:36:38 What else? I've given them Lala Baby for those of you who are giving birth or have children. And you want, we got you covered on the basics. That's give them all a baby.com. And yeah, that's where I'm at. Well, I love it. I love it. And our baby is turning one.
Starting point is 01:36:54 My baby turns one on the 15th. I know. The eyes of March, my little water baby. You're coming to the park right? I am coming to the party. I'm so excited. I don't know what it's gonna be like. I handed that. I punted that job off to the party. I'm so excited. I don't know what it's going to be like. I handed that.
Starting point is 01:37:05 I punted that job off to my assistant. I'm sure it'll be fabulous. I'm sure there'll be a balloon wall and like a lot of like way too much candy that no one will eat. Probably. And yeah, it'll be a whole thing. I'm excited. That was my biggest concern about having a kid is that I'm horrible at hosting any sort
Starting point is 01:37:23 of party. So I'm just thankful that someone else is taking over. No, it's gonna be great. I'm excited to go. Thanks for having me back. Thanks for coming always. Cheers. Cheers.

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