Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Spencer Pratt on Taylor Swift and Kardashian P. Diddy Connection

Episode Date: April 23, 2024

Spencer Pratt is here! He shares about when and why he became a hardcore Swiftie. He also tells of his conversation with Taylor backstage at one of her concerts. We get into her hot new album and all the scoop behind her lyrics regarding former boyfriends! Taylor is still not over the time that Kim made her out to look like a liar eight years ago and we love the song. Then we discuss all the theories surrounding Kris Jenner's long-term boyfriend, Corey Gamble, and how the two of them are connected to P. Diddy. Another young female TikToker with a big following, has suspiciously passed away. Then Spencer tells us about the new reality show that Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are doing involving the sport of polo. The Valley is juicier than ever and we have more insight to why Jax and Brittany may have separated. Enjoy! Order Lash Paradise Mascara from L’Oreal Paris now on Amazon! Go to https://RO.CO/JUICYSCOOP and sign up today and you’ll pay just $99 for your first month—and $145 a month after that. Shop Juicy Scoop Merch https://juicyscoopshop.com  Get EXTRA Juicy on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop  Follow Me on Social Media Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald  Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Listen in, listen up, woo woo, Hannah McDonald. Yeah. Juicy Scoop. Hello, and welcome to Juicy Scoop. You guys have been begging. You have been missing this daddy. He's been on daddy duty. Father of two adorable blonde, blue-eyed baby boys

that are crazy. Spencer Pratt, welcome back to Juicy Scoop. Thank you so much. And a thank you to everyone that comes up to me everywhere and shouts out Juicy Scoop. I appreciate it, love taking photos. If it weren't for Heather, I wouldn't even feel relevant. So I'm so thankful and all the comments section,

I read them all and it's just, it's a great community. Thank you for bringing my Heidi Montauk shirt. By the way, very soft t-shirt material. Oh, it's incredible. That's why I wear them every day. She is trending big time. Big time. We're going to talk about Taylor Swift, but we have to talk about Heidi first. This is actually really amazing. All the songs that she's doing

and all that. Oh no, it's insane. It's so great. How much is she loving it? That's why people, they're like, why is she doing this? I'm like, go on Spotify and look at her monthly listeners and then go look at all your favorite non-Dualeepa, Tay, you know, just normal pop people. Heidi has like a million more than everybody.

Like a million, two monthly listeners is crazy. One of them's at 70 million streams and then on TikTok it was 2 billion and then China she's like famous famous so we may be moving to China so that's moving or just going there. I mean if we get there and we're real famous I don't know how I would leave that you know. I mean I think they would embrace you. That's what I'm saying like and I love Chinese food so I could just. Well of, your first music video that you ever did was when I did the parody and I was Heidi at the beach.

Higher, so I think about how rich we would have been if you could monetize, you know, like, there was no YouTube, just your video, we would have got the money too, I'm like, gosh. We did it at Chelsea lately, and I I remember everyone was like, oh my God, have you guys seen this video? And then the producers were like, would you go meet the producer at like seven in the morning

at this beach? And I'm like, okay, let me find, I didn't want to wear a bathing suit because I was still like, my son was only about a year and a half at the time. So I'm like, I found something like a tankini, the same color. And then the producer was you filming it.

And I just did the whole thing in the water. And they put it on YouTube, you know, as like a fan account because E didn't want it to look like they were putting it on. And also E was really weird. They never wanted us to have clips on YouTube because they were like, but it's airing in Brazil the next day. It was really weird. They never wanted us to have clips on YouTube because they're like, but it's airing in Brazil the next day. And we're like, great, you know, great marketing there.

But I know I didn't have my own YouTube channel or whatever. And then when Chelsea left E, they took it all down. That was viral hit. It had millions of views. That was the number one like Chelsea lately clip was that parody of your music video. You know the funniest part about that is it looks so like bootleg, but the editor that I randomly got to do it because he was a friend of a friend, was the editor at the time of 24 with like Jack Bauer, like the dopest editor in the game.

And he's like, you only have this one angle? I'm not sure much I could do. You you know he's used like 50 shots or whatever but that was like the editor of 24 did that. That is amazing. So yeah but speaking of pop stars on was it Friday I received a gift from Taylor Swift and I'm wearing part of it because it doesn't fit around my wrist. Taylor sent me a gold bracelet with- And what are the letters? It says T.T. the- Oh, for the Poet Society or whatever.

What is the name of it? The Poets. T.T.P.D. is the initials for it. That's what it says. And we're gonna get all into it. The other person that's right behind Heidi Montag and Taylor Swift is this girl, Heather McDonald. And she's going on tour.

And I'm going to be in Scottsdale, Phoenix area, May 3rd, really fun. I'm doing standup, Julie's doing standup, and then Brandi, Julie and I are gonna do the hottest funniest topics for you. I'm doing Denver with Julie as well on May 17th and 18th. Chris Frangiola in Temecula, a Pechanga. San Diego in July. It's all at HeatherMcDowelland.net and then a bunch of fall dates on the East Coast as well.

HeatherMcDowelland.net. Okay, let now, when did you- Wait, are you going to do an eras experience ever? I feel like you should just play into that right now I know well the era's version. Yeah, I remember you always said you were a Swiftie. Of course I've always enjoyed her music. I always respected that she wrote her own songs played instruments Loved her mother always thought she was great Even when we would report on her back in the Chelsea Lately Days and all that kind of stuff. People always wondered, you know, through, she always writes about her boyfriends.

I remember she bought, didn't she buy a house right next to one of the Kennedys that she was dating? You know, it's a nice area. I'm not gonna say, because of him, it's like saying, you know, there's a certain group of- Wait, who was the Kennedy that she bought? Who was the, was it a Kennedy? Yeah, he was. Who was it? I don't know his name, but I mean, it's a certain group of... Wait, who was the Kennedy that she bought? Who was the... Was it a Kennedy? Yeah, he was.

Who was it? I don't know his name, but I mean, it's like saying... That was so long ago. There's like the Malibu colony. There's this place in the hand of So, you know, it's not... Right, that's true. That's true. At the end of the day, these are mansions in the best area.

It happened to maybe be near a guy. I should have thought it was cute, but... And so when did you become a hardcore Swifty? Rewind, I've met Taylor twice before I was a Swifty. And her mom, when we were backstage, reminded us of these experiences. And that's how big ego crazy I was at one time, that I had to be reminded meeting Taylor,

because I was like, oh, would you like a photo? The reverse roles. So when the Kim Kanye conspiracy came out, I off the jump did not believe I felt like it was edit. So for backstory for our listeners. Wait, let's talk about that because they're saying two of the songs are about this incident Cassandra and also the Amy one, Thank You Amy, in which the writing of it is all lowercase,

except the K from thank is a big K, then U, A, little a, then big I, big M, small ee. So people put that together as code that it was thank you Kim for being so awful to me because of that horrible experience, I'm at this higher level, which I could not relate to more in what I've experienced in the last six months.

And so I love it, but please explain what the story is because for those that are not super Swifties, you kind of remember it, you kind of doubt, and we need to explain. I remember it like it was yesterday. Okay. And that's why I became a Swifty

because I related to it so much because I always felt like I had been, you know, hated by an edit that was out of my control. So that was this, you know, how my parallel universe. So what happened was, Kanye wrote this song. Well, first let's go back to, she won the award and he hopped up on stage. So let's just remind people of that. That was that that viral moment. She won best album. Beyonce's music video, I think, maybe was it?

Well, whatever she won, Beyonce was also up for it. And she won and she got up and she's very excited. And this is eight, nine years ago. So she's that much younger and that much, you know, it's still a huge star, but, um, and he hops up on stage and goes, I gotta, I gotta interrupt. You didn't say interrupt. He's like, I gotta talk for a minute. You know, Beyonce had the better album and it was just this moment.

Everyone was like, and Beyonce's dying and you know and so that happened so they had that whole beef then they kind of they kind of they neutralize the leg of pieces. She's like I don't need you I don't need any enemies. Oh how cool that Kanye now thinks like now we're kind of friendly. So then this song where he supposedly calls her up and asks for permission to say, um, I made, like, you owe me sex, I made you famous, some misquoting.

It was like, I still think Taylor and I should have sex because I made that bitch famous. Oh, she owes me sex. She owes me sex because I made that bitch famous. And said that he got, and Kim said that he called and got permission and on the show, the reality show, she said they filmed everything, they show clips where it looks like it.

Like Kim calling her. Like Kim calling her and she like says okay. Kinda laughs and thinks it's sorta funny. Then, you know, this is when Kim and Kanye are the media, they're so famous. Madly in love. Yeah, madly, everything's positive about them. So they make Taylor out to be some liar,

and like a snake, and then everyone hits her with the snake emojis. Okay, so wait, like this is where it gets confusing for me, and maybe you don't have the answer. So the song comes out, and it also, the video is quite provocative. It has Caitlyn Jenner now laying there with all these people in a bed, and a Taylor lookalike, right?

And all these famous people in a bed laying down for that song. And does she then come out and go, I don't like this? Where did it come that then they said, but you said it was okay. That's where I don't, that's where I'm confused. That I would have to, you know, time machine, but it was very clear she was, I think, not happy with it. Not happy off the jump, even when it was, before the video, I think, even just when the lyric came out,

it's from my recollection, you know? So then Kim puts out this clip of him having the phone call and her laughing and saying, I like it or something. Exactly, boom. Now that's where the snake emojis come into play. So now the world that believes that, which you would, because there's video proof. Wow, Taylor's a little whiny bitch.

Liar, too. She's a liar. Yeah. Liar. So then somebody has tree pain, her legendary publicist says in this famous tweet, and with the laugh emojis. Wait, who's publicist? Kim's or?

Taylor's. Oh, Taylor's publicist. Power player. I can't even's publicist? Kim's or Taylor's? Taylor's. Oh, Taylor's publicist. You know, power player. I can't even say publicist. And she wrote, like, after she argued with Kim's tweet because she said that, look, even your publicist lied and this is not what I said and edited. And then Tree writes, who do you piss off to leak the whole tape or whatever with laugh emojis? Because the full edit gets leaked out and in it, Taylor's like not cool with it. She's like, yeah, I get that.

So someone leaked Kim's full edit. Exactly. And we don't know who did that. We don't. But it was someone who probably worked for her or somewhere in it that doesn't like her. I was thinking that if I was Taylor, I would figure out who's involved in that

and I would have offered like a million cash. Like, you know, I want to believe that like, or no, that she went around, knew this and said, I know there's the real cut. I'm going to find out whoever, you know, it's my dream. So they put out the real cut that proves that this was a edit that was originally put out by Kim. And she says on it, which is now famous clip,

you know, I'm misquoting. She's like, I get that you didn't know who I was at this time, but I had sold seven million records. Taylor says that Taylor, as in like, you didn't make me famous. Like I was already sold seven million records. So she says that like, bang your line and just says like, no, like, I'm not cool with this. And it's totally not that. So then she gets the redemption.

But I became a Taylor Swift fan before that redemption, when everyone was hating on her and I watched her whole crew turn on her, like all the people you always saw, you know, these groups of these models with their squads. What happens in Hollywood, whether it's music or podcasting or whatever, they go with the bigger star. What's in that supposedly in the positive or looks right in the spin.

And the one that put out the lie first. Everyone, my sister is a criminal defense attorney says this is why it's harder to be a criminal defense attorney because you look at the person who's been arrested, who's on trial and 70, 80% are going to be like, well, obviously that person's guilty. So now you as a defense attorney has to prove that they're not. It's always going to be harder to be on the defense. So when there's a lie that goes out first, it is very, for a year, forever, there's going

to be people that still don't know. All these details I'm saying. What you're saying right now, they still might remember the story Kim put out eight years ago. And they're just hearing about the truth now. Because not everyone follows up on everything. So that's when I became a hardcore Swifty. When I saw everyone turn against her, I was like, I'm going to ride with Taylor.

And so every single day, I make my coffee, and I play Look What You Made Me Do. And because I was just feeling it I was like because I felt her energy like I'm gonna snap on this like I'm not gonna let you Yeah, break me down and it was just was such like I felt like it was like a Tupac album, you know Like had such like gangster energy like I'm gonna go I'm not gonna give in to this lie and let you define me whatever So that's why we gave us 50.

And then that was when we were invited to go to the Reputation concert and we're sitting there first row, which was already like crazy. And reputation was before eras or this is the same? Reputation is like 2017, I think. And somebody comes up and is like, Taylor would like to see you backstage by, excuse me. So we go backstage before the show at the Rose Bowl. Taylor's like in her dressing gown, no phone, nothing, and just was as sweet

as any human's ever been, for real. No attitude. Didn't need- But she knew. She knew that you're one of the few people that fucking rode hard and stuff. And I know you're one of the few people that like fucking rode hard and stuff. And I know you're one of the few people for me. Exactly, and her mom said that to me.

She's like, we watched when everyone was, all her people and you were there hyping Taylor, like we saw that, I was like, okay. And I didn't do, I never thought I'd be backstage in Taylor Swift when she's like, you know, I didn't think doing my coffee was not like an agenda. I never thought I'd end up with Taylor and her mom with them. So it was just like out of body.

So then since then, it's harder now being like a Swiftie because the people don't know this backstory and they think like I'm like a cloud-hanger jumping on. I'm like, nah, I was doing this when everyone was hating. Like it wasn't when it was a negative thing, you know, now, you know, so it is what it is, but. And what I love about it is being someone that's been through a similar, much smaller scale, obviously,

but the pain I think is very similar, where you felt like the acts of someone that you thought you were good with, them putting it out there. And then all of a sudden she got hate and was told she was a liar and a little whiny bitch. And I don't think she had ever experienced anything like that. And it was, as she said, career debilitating. It was creatively debilitating. She kind of went in a little hole in every sense of the word for a couple years until she was able to come out of it creatively and make the lemonade of the songs and so the fact that she

Wrote all these songs 31 songs amazing. I don't know hen she had time to do that between the tour and falling in love with Travis I don't understand how she had time to do all this. I think it's on the jet, I would imagine. You know, like you're riding on the jet. You're just like so upset on the jet. Just like amazing. But that's showing someone who's truly, truly creative because normal, like when I'm done performing or whatever, I'm like, the last thing I'm doing is like writing a script

before I go out on stage and do standup. Like it's the same thing. Like you think that the downtime would be the downtime. And I love that about her. But when I see some of the comments about, oh, this song's about the Kim situation, and people have been like, oh my god, it's eight years. Get over it. It's like, no, she doesn't have to get over it.

And she's being super smart and clever and classy about it and making it fun for all the fans to figure it out. She's the female Shakespeare of our time. I fucking love it. You also spend more time on Instagram comment section on the TikTok comment section. It's like get her, you know, like it's weird comment sections have like different types of personalities. So if you check, you know, there's a lot of TikToks. Oh, I'm sure there's a lot for all for Taylor and like, yeah, you don't you ever have to get over someone completely fucking you over and lying about you with the goal of trying to ruin your career.

And not just career, friendships. People don't then you've got stink on you. People don't want to be seen with you. They don't want to be talking to you. They don't want to go to an event with you and they try to act like oh they're busy or whatever and you don't realize it's happening after it happens that it all settles and you see all of it it is awesome to know where everyone really stands it is a gift and that's why she says thank you kim so have you been playing a lot of Taylor?

You should just like in the car on the way to do scoop, like what you made me do. Yeah. What you made me do. I have a lot of people also sending me stuff going, listen to this lyric. This is what you've been through because they've been through it with me for the last six months.

And I know I'm not the only one that can see a relationship. Whatever it is, it might happen to you in high school, it might happen to you at your job at insurance. Like, this happens in every kind of industry where someone puts out a lie about you, but this was, you know, a huge, obviously, two huge stars. And I love, and I love that she's like,

what was the song about your child's coming home from school singing about? Oh, and there really is the clip, like North singing or whatever. Oh, yeah. Already this has happened. Right. But yeah, your child will be coming home

and you'll know that that song's about you. But I'm so on a different thing. I think Kim loves this. That's how I think. I think Kim loves this. I think Kim is like- The only reason she's not gonna love it is because she has kids. And because Taylor's such a big deal, and because the kids' friends are gonna know this,

and they're gonna be like, "'Yeah, don't you know what this song is about?' There's no way that North isn't talking with her little friends at 11 or 12 years old that she is. That they're not like, "'You know what this song is about. There's no way that North isn't talking with her little friends at 11 or 12 years old that she is, that they're not like, you know what this story is really about. And there might be a moment where North being sassy, like as your kids get older,

you start having like arguments and whether it's political or whatever, and you're like screaming at your kid and you're like, but you don't get it, I've been on this earth longer. Like, so whatever. So she's, we already know that North, you know, speaks your mind. So that is where I think she might not love it at this time and not, and why she's not addressing it, which I actually think is probably wise. Don't address it. And, but I also think she doesn't want to admit what she did is wrong. So I get that. But what I do think could be a great lesson to the bully, whether you're Kim

Kardashian doing something that maybe even your husband made you do, we don't know, or together. We don't know. I'm just saying they're divorced now. But like you did this thing. They're divorced now, but like you did this thing. She could honestly say right now, you know, when I did this, it was not to ruin Taylor's career. I did not think that she would be suicidal or never do another song. That was not in my intention when I did this, but the lesson to be learned from everybody, whether you're a 12 yearyear-old being a bitch to someone in seventh grade or you're 50, know that this type of shit can really affect people, even if it wasn't

your intention to affect them that much. And even if they strive and are doing well afterwards, it still doesn't mean that what you did was any less painful just because you, just because you didn't destroy them, doesn't mean that it was any less painful to the person that wasn't destroyed. It was still awful. And that's what I love about the lesson. And that Kim can learn that lesson too.

And people should learn from Kim's perspective. A lot of people are Kim's in situations and they need to learn from it too. Yeah, if Kim did that, like there would be blowback, like you like, but I would be like oh there we go like I can watch the Kardashians now you know but I don't know if we'll be able to have Chris's in jail. Oh yeah we're gonna get into that in a minute. Wait but also the photo that they shared three you know there's been so many articles from page six whatever this is like one where it's cut from

like at Kim's waist but there was one where they were standing together and Kim was pregnant and it wasn't a flattering photo and she didn't enjoy being pregnant. And everyone's like, okay, page six, like great photo that you chose. When they choose like an ugly photo. This Juicy Scoop podcast is presented by Lash Paradise Mascara from L'Oreal Paris. Let's talk about lashes.

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Spilled on. I spilled on because I get this Erewhon breakfast sandwich pretty much every day and the egg is always cooked through. It's never exploded. It's like a... Yeah. And so I eat, took a bite like I usually do and it explodes all over my brand new. So you got the PR box, which was that bracelet.

Yeah, the bracelet and a really cute. And a really cute sweatshirt. And sweatpants are just a sweatshirt. Sweatpants. Okay, all sweatsuit. And a record and a note from Taylor. I will say the old notes used to say Spencer, but you know, she's busy.

She doesn't have to write. She just might have a long name. So, and I have a long name. And I spilled all over it. So for the last three days, Heidi is so sick of me asking. I keep it out and saying, so what do you think? You think I can email Tree and just say, hey? You know, like I'm trying to decide if I'm gonna email the most powerful person in the world

right now and be like, can I get a new sweatshirt? So I asked everyone Snapchat, like, do not, like just keep it moving. What was the story with this Tree woman? And, oh, maybe it was, I want to say it was a blind item reporter that was the one that said that the Travis and Taylor thing was not real. I think maybe DeWa put that out. No, it was not Tree. It was Tree, it was Travis's publicist. Said it. To a makeup artist or something. And then Tree was like furious.

Yeah, Tree was the one that stepped in, can we stop these, like burn down the house over there at Dumois or whatever. She's nice to me, so she puts my spotted items. So I'm in, I want to be spotted. Hard balance. No problem. But yeah, she got me. So what about, okay, what about, so the guys that are mentioned in these articles, who

are, I don't even know who these people are. Who is Joe Alwyn? God, you're so funny. So she was with Joe for like six years. And he is a singer actor. He's an actor. Okay. But he actually has writing credits on like her last, one of her last projects.

He makes $3 million a year off of, you know, she let him write a song with him. But it's $3 million a year in publishing money. Good. I know. I mean, what a nice freaking. Ex-boyfriend. God. And then Matt Healy was the guy that most, I guess, people speculate are all the songs are written about.

And people don't understand that it seemed like a short relationship. How could she have so much emotion for him? And then everyone in the comments section is like, have you never heard of a situation ship? And a lot of people relate to these hot and fast heavy. Or they kind of were like, it seemed like it might have been more of an emotional relationship,

situation ship, emotional relationship, something with this guy. And that also was he the one that was doing drugs? Who does drugs? So he was like, her fans hated this guy because he said, you know, I don't want to say allegedly maybe a racist comment, something about ice spice or which is ironic that then she uses ice spice and you know she's so. She likes ice spice a lot. She was, that's where she was watching in Coachella.

But this was pre any of that. So it's a, you know, she's so good and that's filmmaking. I was like, wow, you know, I just made that connection. So this guy, Mataheeley, he's the lead singer of 1975 on some rock band. So he's successful in his own thing. So the song about him is the world's shortest man or whatever. So I think he was very, I think they had a great life. They love music and singing, I'm guessing.

But I think he partied too hard and just said, I think he's too much of the rock star, but she has some lines about like, she'd rather burn her whole life down than listen to all this gripe, you know, like her fandom trying to tell her what to do and how to live. She'd rather burn her life down than listening to everyone trying to like,

chime in and like, I'll burn my whole life down. I love that. Okay. And then she does talk about Travis a little bit in the So High School song. She's kissing while his friends are playing GTA that one. I was like how young are his friends they're like playing video games to the side. I'm not in a lot of play video games. And then she does another song a couple and the manuscript is about John Mayer talking about a large age gap and that she wished he was 30. And, but then after they broke up, she was so distraught, she was only in her mother's bed. So. The lesson from Taylor Swift is you can have everything and really just have a hard time,

you know, because I always really think once you're in the hundred million world dollars, like what could be wrong? And then she can give you 30 records that show you, you know? Well, because humans are humans. And when you have a human relationship, whether it's a friend or a colleague or a lover, and it doesn't go the way you wanted, then it's going to be hurtful. Like, unless, I mean, unless you really are like the devil, it's going to be hurtful, you know?

It's going to affect you. It's gonna make you, give you anxiety or whatever your thing is. And okay, so let me see if there's anything else here. So- That's Mattie Healy. Mattie Healy about the situation ship. I love that expression, by the way.

And then we have the Joe Alwyn wanted to keep his relationship personal. There's her six relationships. We got Travis. Then we got Travis's girlfriend, his ex-girlfriend, Kayla Nicole. And I mean, I do kind of feel for her a little bit in that she has her own thing going.

And anytime she speaks about anything, the Swifties come for her. But that's not Taylor Swift's problem. And they could be bots. And they could be bots, but also she can't, even if she was like, hey, everybody, lay off Kayla. Stop talking about Kayla. It's not her job to do that. And that's Kayla's thing. And she needs to maybe focus on some element of being an influencer that has nothing to do.

And also know that even three years from now, if she's the model for some clothing line, there's going to be comments in there from Taylor's fans being little bitches. And that's just, that's what it is. You know, you also chose to date a public high profile athlete. So once you go in that world,

once you go on, yeah. You're not dating a private, you know, lawyer at the, or a stock broker. Exactly, once you decide to date Tom Schwartz on very prompt rules like the joke girl, get ready for people to have an opinion. Yeah. And it's nobody's fault. Like, that's part of it. Just know it. But right. Taylor's turn.

Do you think they're going to get married? 100 percent. I think she's going to have a baby. I got multiple arguments with people that they're like, this is all for sure. I'm like, no, it's not. I have an episode where I predicted when they would get engaged. And it was, it's May. It's around the corner. I hope so. I think maybe the Paris show, you know, Eiffel Tower. That's what I said. The Paris show and like something because I think he's sort of basic and Diablo Cody, the screenwriter is the one who gave me that idea. So I don't want to take it completely for myself. But I think that's in May.

And yeah, I mean, I think she's like 33, right? So I think she wants to get on the baby train, and I think she wants to do it right. I think she wants to be not that it's wrong, but I think she wants to do it traditional for herself and for her parents. I think she wants to be married and then get pregnant. That's my opinion. No, no. This is going to be the royals should just retire. There's like after this, there's no more-

I think they kind of are when you get to the royals. No, I mean, but now it's a wrap. Like there's no respectfully, you know, there's no more Meghan Harry, there's no more King. Like once they're married, it's gay. Wait, let me go- There's going to be big in page six if you post him- Let me just go to what's going on with the Royals since you're interested. Did you get the jam from Meghan Markle? I thought it was coffee.

She had the coffee first. She was at the coffee shop. Just coffee? You didn't see that? Or she's like roasting beans or whatever. Oh, just working at a coffee shop for fun? You know, like Ben Affleck going and making donuts at Dunkin' Donuts.

Or Sheena at Chili's. Yeah. I love that. I guess her brock, her husband did like a TikTok, like, please go, I can't even do it. I'm gonna try it. In Australian. And he's like, go give her the comments section.

Give her some love. He's like, give her some love. No, she and Katie did a commercial for Chili's. It's really cute. And it's Chili's kind of up in their game being like, we have espresso martinis. So feel like you're living the Vanderpump rules life with an espresso martini. Like that's the hot drink. But yeah, they look cute in it.

I thought it was great. But no, the jam, you know, I bet Heidi ordered it for me. She knows so much. I love Megan and suits. You think so. Okay. So you are a Megan fan or huge one. So do you think this is a good move creating this company? American Riviera Orchard? A lot of people think it's a very long name, but I guess that's the actual name of the orchard in which she lives on

or where she's grabbing her berries from. I would be more excited about about that she figured out a way to do a reality show without saying she's on a reality show, which I feel like the polo show is the way to do the... What's a polo show? Her... She's executive producing with Harry, um, following the professional polo, which is such a good world.

Oh, I didn't even know this, which we've never seen. I just went to my... I've only been to a polo thing twice out in Coachella. So right before Coachella started, we were out there and they do the polo and my friend has like, you know, her booth or whatever you want to call it. And you kind of dress up and it's fun. I wasn't watching at all, but it's fun just to see it.

So what is that world? I want to know that world, that's smart. When we lived in Santa Barbara, Heidi actually, because she would go with her friend to the Santa Barbara Polo Grounds, and she kept saying, this is a reality show, this is a reality show. So she said it for years, so I was like,

hey, your show is getting made. She said, I'm like, the one thing you're missing, you didn't have Harry and Meghan on your pitch, but that world is the richest people ever. And they all come together and they drink. Unlike race horses, they're not little. They're normal sized men, right? No, I mean, it's more of the owners too you're getting.

You're getting owners. No, these are guys, that guy famous, Camacho or whatever. These are like famous, that one Argentinian guy is like. And not that there's anything wrong with men who are little, who are guys are that guy famous or whatever like so they're famous that one Argentinian guys Not there's there's anything wrong with men who are little who are jockey. No, they're not jockeys. These are yeah These are men that lots of women and men everyone loves them, you know So and then you're getting rich owners owners. You got everyone hanging around the world and then you have our new Harry's They're just EP this or or what are they doing?

I saw cameras on the field like BTS shot. In Santa Barbara? No, it was on a different, maybe in Florida I think. And there the cameras are shooting it like they're on Episode of the Hills. You know, it's got he's in the full outfit, she's there. She's there. And then- And then he, I guess, just announced like, that he is not, no longer British.

What was this? Prince Harry officially renounces British residency and lists US as his new country on the documents. Could be a tax thing, you know, also, you know, maybe didn't want to pay pounds and Yeah, I don't know but um, yeah, I think they're gonna now they they tried the Documentary situation they tried the podcasting. Let's go Harder than it is and now they just like follow us around that's what people want to see. I mean, if we're going to be with other really rich people

hopping on private jets. Good looking people too. Yeah, just throw in a charity event here or there and it looks like you care about people. I love it. The best clip though, I don't know if you saw it online, but after like the trophy ceremony, there was like this young.

The polo trophy ceremony. Yeah, there was this young woman like standing next to Harry whatever and you see Megan. Oh, this is back. That was old footage? That's kind of old. Were she sort of taking it and taking part of it? No, this is like-

Oh, there's a new one. This is like last weekend. Oh, okay. Sorry. And she's standing next to him and you assume, she whispers, don't stand there, and the lady moves. And then she said, this is the show I want to watch. Oh, wow. Air this. We're good to go, let's go Netflix.

Yeah, I say go for it. I mean, she's, you know, beautiful and stylish and I think it would be a hit. I think people are intrigued. I mean, they may not, people may not like her, but they're intrigued. We've talked about it like two years ago and the fact she still hasn't figured out a way

to get in with Taylor. Like she should have been Ice Spice. You know, like how Ice Spice jumped in with Taylor. As a bestie. As a bestie, like that should be Megan. Like her team did not figure out a way and everyone could negotiate where Megan and Taylor could hang out. That they could be friends.

And Travis and Harry could do polo. It's like such a no-brainer. Right, well, you know, Travis has his new show, which I think is a good idea. So if Harry goes on, are you smarter than celebrities? You know you got like 10 million or something for that? I think that sounds like a really fun show. Oh, I was...

You should be one of the celebrities. I better start studying. Yeah, I mean, it was a fun show. It's a great combo of of updating an older show with celebrities and having a likable guy that clearly can clearly do it. It's not a hard job to host a show. But he hosts his podcast. He's a good personality.

He was on his own reality show before her about chasing Kelsey or chasing Travis. Yeah, a dating show. Yeah, about dating. So there we go with that. I'm surprised that wasn't in your box from Peacock. Oh, so I got a gift from Peacock. And I wanna say, I wanna say,

now I don't know how long this was in the works, but I swear to God, I think I gave them the idea to bring back these old shows. Because a few months ago, I think I gave them the idea to bring back these old shows. Because a few months ago I kept talking about, oh my God, you guys, Million Dollar Matchmaker is on Netflix. And it's so fun to watch these shows from 2008 when Patty Stanger had her old faith. No one had lips, no one had eyelashes, the outfits were horrible, everything. And it's fun, it's like calming to watch

that time of life because you kind of remember like what your life was like and you know, everyone has Blackberries and flip phones and it's just like whatever. So then they go, okay, now we're gonna, now I don't know if these shows are gonna, how long they're gonna be on Peacock, but they're all the old shows.

So I got a big thing and each one is two chocolates with Bravo and Peacock on it. But each one says a different show. That's so funny. I thought they were all like USB. I thought you were the only one that got them. I was like, they sent her that many USBs? No, you can watch all these shows on Peacock. And so last night I watched Tamra's Getting Married,

Tamra from Real Housewives of O.C. because I was in it. Peter and I went to the Vegas bachelorette party, couple bachelorette party. Peter went with them and Terry Dubrow to the strip club while I was with Heather Dubrow and Tamra like gambling at the Palms. Palms was popping when they were open. It was the spot when the Maloops had it in the first open. And then the wedding was at the St. Regis and I brought my sister Shannon because Peter and the boys had a plan to go to like Whistler and I was like go I'm going to this wedding.

had a plan to go to Whistler and I was like, go, I'm going to this wedding. I realized I wore red and I go, oh my God, before the show started, I go, I just found out it's wrong to wear red to a wedding or something. It's supposed to be like that means you slept with a groom, whatever. But there were like eight women wearing red at that wedding. Bright colors. Maybe somebody did. Gretchen was. The bright colors of that era.

It was a little cheese but but her dress still totally stood up to cameras like her look totally timeless gorgeous and so I watched that last night but you could watch them all on peacock and they weren't available until this week no until like last week they none of those were available you could go far back in like OC and watch like the original episodes but these episodes, but these shorter shows that were only like New York City Prep. What's the NeNe one?

Oh, like yeah, NeNe had a spinoff, NeNe's Wedding, the like a billion dollar decorator with Martin Ballard. There's so, there's like 15 of them. You gave them the idea. And the Rachel Zoe. That's the Rachel Zoe project is great. The clothes and her. These people were so.

She was so thin and everybody thought she's so skinny, Rachel Zoe, and her husband doesn't seem like he's, I'm just saying, I'm not saying, I said people didn't think he was heterosexual. Cut to 15 years later, they're still married. She gave birth to two kids. They're still a happy family. A lot of people are that thin now too. Some people are just thin. I don't know. But yeah. Okay. Now, you know, I like to go on the TikTok. This girl, Becca Day, B- B-E-K-A-H-D-A-Y, this is her work. But a lot of people are going deep dives on Corey Gamble, Chris Jenner's long-term boyfriend, and where he came from

and what his history is. And some people think he is, one time Kanye said he's a plant that he works for the government or his CIA. One time he said that in an interview, but people are like, Kanye's crazy. In this girl's deep dive, he played football. He was a good student in high school. He went to Morehouse College. He got his business degree. So he had like a pretty like exemplatory like

good boy life. Okay. Then right out of college, she was like on jets with all these like moguls. He's known Diddy for years. He, he knew this guy. Do you remember this show? Oh, yeah. This was geez and gents or something. short lived show on MTV where it was about, because people would see P. Diddy have this guy holding an umbrella, and he was dressed like a old-fashioned butler, kind of. And he had a short-lived show, maybe Peacock would like to buy that one, where it was like how to be a gentleman,

like executive assistant for like a big hip hop mogul. And so they were friends and she, she just goes very deep into what it is. So there is a lot of photos with all of them with P. Diddy, but that doesn't mean anything, you know what I mean? Like you're with popular people and you're rising up and being famous. And of course P. Diddy and them are taking photos.

Someone went down all the way down into Chris Jenner's Instagram from 15 years ago and collected every single photo that she's ever taken with him and What do you think is going on here, you know as Crazy as Kanye is allegedly You know, but the he wouldn't agree with that. Yeah He was around Cory the most, you know, out of all. So the fact that he is this suspicious of him and it would be like, we haven't met in a year, family,

you know, that's what he said on that one episode. Because I deep dove after I was a good hour into TikToks last night. Yeah. And Heidi's like, what are you doing? I'm like, research, honey. So that makes me get extra suspicious, last night, and Heidi's like, what are you doing? I'm like, research, honey. So that makes me get extra suspicious because he's not saying that about anybody else.

You know, there's a lot of people in that entourage. And then you go back and you're like, how did he become Justin Bieber's tour manager? And then the Diddy Justin Bieber stuff that is so creepy, I don't care what anybody, when he's like 15 and he's like, I'm doing 48 hours. Have you seen this? Wait, tell about this.

So Justin Bieber does 48 hours with Diddy at Diddy's house and he's- When he's like 14. When he's 14 and it's just so weird. And then you connect- It's like his camp. Yeah, his camp. Which Usher also went through.

Usher, and Diddy was Usher's legal guardian when he was, and he's already said the stuff he was exposed, you know, so that connection that... And you know, these parents are like, -"Oh, my God, my kid's talented." -"They're in Canada." -"He doesn't even know what's going on." -"My kid's talented. Okay, he's gonna be a star." Just like the people that, uh, whose daughters thought

they were learning music from R. Kelly. You know, they were not. They're like, I have this talented kid that has been plucked from obscurity. What do I know? We're quiet on that set thing and all these kids are like, where are the parents? I'm like, they think they're on Nickelodeon. They're on a job. They're making all this money. You don't think this is, you know.

And I do want to say there are pedophiles in every single industry, you know, and the pedophile seeks out where there might be a crack and somehow they can convince a parent that they're good for the child or whatever. So for people to think like it's all pedophiles in Hollywood, that is not the case. But are there bad people in this industry? Yeah. Are there bad people in churches? Yes.

At schools, in all industries it exists. But you know. So that was where, you know, I'm not saying I don't know anything. I'm just a tick tocker here. And we're not saying that P-ditty is a pedophile or anything happened with Justin Bieber. But these are the things that are getting people to go

because it's all, it's out there. There's videos, there's photos. And you're like, hmm, let me just put two and two together for fun. because it's all, it's out there. There's videos, there's photos, and you're like, hmm, let me just put two and two together for fun. Yeah, and then you're like, okay, so he was the tour manager, and then right when Kris Jenner leaves.

T'Kori was the tour manager of Justin. And then boom, now he's with Kris Jenner, right when the Caitlin stuff's ending and he's locked in. And then how do you jump to like, you're hanging out with Jeff Jenner, right? You know, when the Caitlin stuff's ending and he's locked in. Yeah. And then how do you jump to like, you're hanging out with Jeff Bezos, I know Chris is friends with the new.

And so, with Jeff, all just part. I think that's all through Chris being, from the very beginning, Chris, besides her being super famous, but she was always super charming. She soaked in, she basically learned how to be a businesswoman from Robert Kardashian and his friends.

She did not go to college and she would know how to be charming after every meeting, no matter what it was, a gift would be sent and flowers. And so people like her and she's likable. And then, you know, of course Lauren Sanchez would like to be friends with Kris Jenner. Who the fuck? Like you, of course Lauren Sanchez would like to be friends with Kris Jenner. Who the fuck? Like, of course she would. And of course she wants to be friends with – Lauren Sanchez and Kris were running around the same circles 17 years ago through Gillian Barbary.

And they weren't – they didn't form a friendship then. They formed a friendship when she got engaged to Jeff Bezos. But that's okay. You know, now they're at the same level and go have some fun on a yacht. I have no I have no qualms about it, but and then this is her significant other. So of course they're going to Invite him in as your boyfriend and same thing goes with the Ellen DeGeneres Ellen DeGeneres when she had her show one day, like the last three years of Ellen's

show, I swear to God, every week, five days a week, at least once a week, there was a Kardashian on that show. Every week. Oh, I thought they produced it. It was ridiculous. I was like, this is ridiculous, whether it was Scott or Kourtney, every week. I mean, if somebody wants to add up how many times a Kardashian was on Ellen's show in the last three years, it was, they bought a house

right next to them at Madison Club. Then they were hanging out. And then he was like, here are my girls, when they were getting married. There's a video of them, and Corey's like, my two girls, Portia and Ellen, Portia and Ellen were on a plane with Cory because we're like, we're gonna buy art.

Now Cory's an art aficionado, but maybe he is. And watches, I see all, he's all over WatchTalk. He probably does know more about luxury watches and Ferraris than I do because I'm not buying those things. Oh, it's, where it gets weird is... He's always been nice to me, I will say that. The new conspiracy on TikTok is, I'm sure it'll end this week because she'll pop up on Instagram, but Chris fled the country,

is what people are saying, because she has not been seen since Diddy's house was raided because supposedly her and Corey are on these tapes. That's all allegedly is what the TikTok is saying, which if TikTok does get banned, where are we gonna get all these stories from? I'm like, what happened? What's great about podcasting is no one can take it down from me, but I am gonna be more select

about what I spend time with my editor about what to cut for the clips. And I'll tell you, as juicy as this conversation was, this is not going to be on TikTok because it won't get views. Anytime I do a thing about the Kardashians, it does not get views because I think they have power to keep those things from being seen. I just really do. Or they've said, watch these 10 accounts that I think know more information than not. I don't know. I think it changed.

Three years ago, it was like, you could, this would blow up. I think now that AI has definitely, oh. So I'm like, but what's great is, yeah, but with some of these TikTokers who do do great material and it's only a couple of minutes, they're not gonna get the following to do a podcast for an hour. So it's like, maybe TikTok going away

will help some artists. Not that I want it to, I definitely don't want any kind of censorship of any kind at all. So, and I appreciate all the work that they do. That's why I bring up TikTokers and get you know, reference them. So boost this TikTokers, boost it.

Yeah, or if you want to cut it and put it out there, that's fine. But like, Prove us wrong. Yeah, maybe we will. But who knows, but there's a lot of talk like that. But I also, when the raid happened, and you know, they were like, yeah, the raid is one of the things I saw about that with, again, people that are supposedly inside talking about this P. Diddy thing, is the cops allegedly that did the raid, the SWAT, whatever it was, that wasn't SWAT, I guess it was just a raid, they didn't know whose house they were raiding. And the theory behind that is because Diddy is so connected that if they told the police, hey, in two hours we're going to Diddy's

house, then Diddy would have known. Like they, like he has connections with LAPD. So the cops going allegedly were just, were not told what house they were going to, so that P. Diddy would be surprised. I totally believe that. It's a small town when it comes to these things. Another part of this conspiracy is the Kim Porter factor that Cory Gamble is in the photos next to the coroner with Diddy. The day she died of pneumonia.

Diddy's, who had, I guess, said things about Diddy. I don't know why she'd get murked out, but it is like, whoa, she's the... Like, why is Cory there with the dead body? And I mean, these pneumonia heart attack deaths. All right, can you see Michael Clayton? They just put the needle in between your toes. You see Michael Clayton with George Clooney? Wait, what's the story? The movie, Michael Clayton. They just put the needle in between your toes You see my claim with George Clooney. Wait, what's the story the movie Michael?

Yeah, have you seen it? No, but I mean if it's a small injection I put it right between your toes. So then when you go on a an autopsy But the thing is of all her next to kin We're all connected to P. Diddy. Someone has to say, when someone dies of something like a heart attack, whatever, someone has to say, I want an autopsy. And unless the police actually think there was foul play, then you pay for that. And it's about $2,000. So then you pay for that, and depending on the coroner or the autopsy person, they go

through their body and they look for any scratch or any needle mark, whatever. They might miss one. What if it was in your tongue or something? It would be very hard, a tiny needle of some injection to find everywhere. In every scalp, you could put it in your head. How would you see that? If it's not just here, it would be hard to detect. Okay, I see an unusual spot that looks like it was within the last 24 hours that looks

like it could be an injectable needle. If this some type of drug makes your heart stop and it's undetectable, which who knows in this world, it probably is, that could be something. Now was Kim Porter a mother of any of Diddy's kids or did she just like work at the record place? That I wouldn't know. But what's interesting is that Kid Cudi said that Diddy like burned his car, like blew

up his car. So like there's not like we're not over here in conspiracy land if this rapper is saying that Diddy something happened and his car exploded the next day, you know, and supposedly Tupac was killed beefing with Diddy. I met with this manager years ago that was representing like Diddy and JLo, but he also had like comedians.

And I was interested, he wanted to like represent me but I went with this other guy just because I felt like this guy was like too flashy and would forget about me. Anyway, he said in his kind of bragging about his company, he said, you know, we just had a meeting with P. Diddy and he comes in and he lays this gun on the table. And I was and I, I thought it was weird, but I also was like, well, maybe that's what rappers do. I didn't know. This was like 1997.

So I'm like, is that how rap, is a gun almost like a cell phone at this point? I didn't know. I didn't necessarily think it meant that you could go off and you'd use it. I just thought it was like, I don't know. Just not something I'm familiar with. I've never owned a gun.

On a rewind, back to the whole Kanye being crazy in the CIA handler thing, I feel like four years ago I told you that story about when I met with that CIA guy at the Beverly Hills Hotel. Do you remember this? No, tell me this story. So now it's like seven years ago, maybe eight. So I wanted to be in the CIA in Hollywood

and I was working on this project with the Marine Corps, where I was like doing a documentary at Camp Pendleton. And I was funding and I asked the colonel, I was like, how do I get in the CIA? And he's like, oh, let me make a call and somebody I know you can go to lunch with. So I go to lunch with this guy at the Beverly Hills Hotel who says-

Do you actually want to be like hired for the CIA? I did, I did. Like a whole nother career. Yeah, I did. Like a whole other career? Yeah, I did. This is before I got back in the game on Juicy Scoop. I thought fame was a rap. At one point, I remember my dad wanted to do that early on in life.

But there was one point where they said you needed a law degree. I don't know if that was FBI or CIA. But then they said, no, you don't anymore. But the time that my dad was looking into it, it was you needed a law degree. So I go back to the CIA. So I go to the pool lounge and I'm quizzing this guy who's in Hollywood that says he's like, it isn't say CIA, but you know, he implies that this is a thing where the CIA is in Hollywood. So the idea that Corey Gamble is connected to this thing that I was trying to get involved

with, the weirdest part about this story, I don't want to say three weeks later, but a month later, maybe so soon, I am, like, checking the news, whatever, and that guy I met with choked to death in Gelson's on a piece of meat or whatever. This is true. I swear you... Wait, he's walking through Gelson's... Like, I think he, like, supposedly,

the story, like, tries the meat and- And then like went down the wrong- And then chokes to death. The guy that I met with that was talking to me about all this world. I was like, dang, maybe they really didn't want me to know or whatever. That's a real story.

And then back to the weird things that connect with all of this to me, is there's also a TikTok conspiracy, allegedly, that Heidi's plastic surgeon, who I never believed drove off that cliff, that they proved later. Because initially they said he was texting and driving. It's like, I know Dr. Frank Ryan. Guy was like, there's no way he's texting and driving. He's not that type of person.

His phone was probably in a pouch, in a bag. Also, this was so long ago. Nobody was texting. We were like, five, five, five, seven, seven. Texting was so, maybe texting, it just... But it wasn't like... So he supposedly drove off PCH into the rocks and died. There is a TikTok conspiracy that Diddy had him killed because Cassie supposedly, allegedly... The woman who has received 30 million for being abused by him yeah Dr. Frank Ryan put her implants in she comes out a surgeon did he says they don't look good take him out and Dr. Briggs I have to wait

six months I can't like I'm not doing that and he forces and medical you've been under force her to do it yeah that was one of the things she talked about in her lawsuit was that how traumatic that was. Oh, she says that happened. Yeah. Oh, so then it's not so crazy that the guy who did that then gets murdered. Because I never, that's why we moved to Costa Rica

because we knew we got murdered and we didn't know if it was connected to something with Heidi and I, we were like, we gotta get out of here. How long did you live in Costa Rica? Just till four seasons got too expensive, but three months, you know, this is to the right that week, the next day, we're on the plane that day that he died

because we're like, whoa, they're killing Heidi's surgeon. Her lawyer just supposedly got, he supposedly killed himself, RIP Peter Lopez, but he definitely did not kill himself. Wait, who's lawyer? Our lawyer. So in like one week, Heidi's lawyer supposedly kills himself, RIP Peter Lopez, but he definitely did not kill himself. Wait, who's lawyer? Our lawyer. So in like one week, Heidi's lawyer supposedly kills himself in the backyard and then Heidi's plastic surgeon goes off the road.

We're like, we are out of here. We're not paranoid. This is weird now at this point. Wow. Well, all I know is Corey's always been delightful to me. I'll go to the floor with Lakers with you. I also think famous rich people become friends and you have photos with people and you go on trips with people and there's

nothing that says anything but that all these connections being there when Kim Porter died, all that stuff, being friends with him is why people are talking because P. Diddy has all these eyes on him and looking at three of his homes being raided That is why people are talking about it and I wonder though if you really had cameras in every room like obscene because Is that what they're saying? Oh, there's something you said server photos from the ray like the snow Oh, it's like a server computer server like for to do the cameras. Oh, it's like a huge thing Supposedly the whole house, and that's these tapes.

It's not necessarily like from the freak off parties or whatever they call it. That's also the thing, like it's a known thing, like these clips, like a ditty party, there's no like, you know what, I don't know. Yeah, all the freak off parties of just basically orgies, guys, girls, both, whatever. I wanna watch it, I wanna bring in someone to do this, you need girls, both, whatever. I want to watch it. I want to bring in someone to

do this. You need to do all these things. I can imagine Kris Jenner is just at a freak off party. I'm just saying, like, that clip. My personal opinion of it is she, anyone that's rich and powerful and Hollywood connections, she is going to invite them to dinner and have a drink and think they're lovely. And I, in my opinion, at the age that she was, was, you know, she didn't become famous till she was 50. It's my opinion that I don't think she was ever doing anything nefarious, but does she want to be friends with famous rich people and act like they're our favorites and they're

so fun and they're so great. Yeah. So you're saying she was at a freak off party as a guest, just not a- Just drinking her Marschini. Yeah. I'm not going upstairs. Yeah. No, I don't know. Very sad, you guys. Another TikToker, beautiful girl and 29 years old, Eva Evans, who I followed because she had these stunning blue eyes. I can't really remember what material she did.

I just remember she would come in my feed and she would give her opinions on things and talk about kind of a variety of TikTok type of stuff. She has died, died, we found out yesterday, no announcement of what from. I hate that. Well, they don't know. Oh, somebody-

They're not revealing it. Okay, that's a, yeah. The other girl, Kyle, who died last week- Had cancer, right? She had colon cancer, but they have still not said if that's what she died from. Because it will, you know, some people say you can

die, whatever, but she was literally doing a video the week before and looked good. So it wasn't like she was in hospice or whatever. We don't know if it was any kind of self-inflicted, if it was maybe an accidental overdose. Nobody knows how she died. They have not announced it. And nobody knows how this girl died. Do we know where Corey was? Is he in any photos popping up? No. I don't really know where the girl lives.

I think it's, you know, I'm just throwing this out there, but it's all I ever read about is fentanyl, lenses with fentanyl, that they were taking a bite in. It could have been. They're not accidental. It's just that fentanyl. Right. It's a mistake. It's a cocktail mistake. Yeah, you take a faked Xanax with fentanyl.

Or it's not fentanyl, but you mix something and you don't wake up. And it wasn't your intention, but we don't know. But it's very weird. So somehow I came across this. It is weird, though, that the owner just sold. So the owner of the Abbey, he also owns the chapel. It's right there on that corner, very close to,

now the no longer pump, sir is still there, Tom Toms. And the Abbey, the Abbey is like the longest running gay bar, nightclub, they have dancing, they have outdoor, they serve lunch, drinks, you know, dinner. And this has been going on for like a few years of people talking about how they felt like they're a roof feed at the club and that it seems like it was coming from bartenders there. Women.

Women, but I also saw a guy say that he thought it happened to him too. But a lot of women and so people are like, wait, what? I thought this was a gay bar. But I think saw a guy say that he thought it happened to him too. But a lot of women, and so people are like, wait, what? I thought this was a gay bar. But I think that's why they're, if this is in fact true, why that's the perfect plan if you're trying to kidnap and sex traffic women. Because they go to the Abbey thinking, I just want to dance and be with my gays and have some fun and I want to be hit on by guys. And so I think that's why their guard is down

and why it has happened. And so this pretty girl, what's her name? Bold Glamour is her name. Oh, wait, this is Billie Lee. Is this Billie Lee? That's Billie Lee. Oh, this is Billie Lee. She looks so pretty. She is pretty. I think it's a filter. It might be a filter, but whatever. It's Billy Lee? That's Billy Lee. Oh, this is Billy Lee. She looks so pretty.

She is pretty, but she's just- I think it's a filter. It might be a filter, but whatever. It's working. It's working for her. No judgment, I'm just saying. Billy Lee of Antipub Rules. She tells a story that happened to her a few years ago.

Other people are saying things are happening. The place sold about a year ago in which, you know, just all those kind of things of someone being like, oh, we'll help you and trying to get into an Uber after or similar or like this is your Uber and then being like, wait, who are you here to see? And they're like the Uber guy is like, just get in the car, just get in the car. So I don't know, but it doesn't, it's not great advertising for going out in West Hollywood because I think that's what people think. I think they think it's LGBTQIA.

I'm a straight woman. I just want to have some fun and some drinks. I just want to dance. I actually am not looking to meet anybody. And so your guard is totally down and it's not necessarily, we don't know if it's a reflection of the club or if that's where they're going and you're not looking and a normal patron is just dropping something in your drink or whatever. The argument was or the theory is that actually bartenders are getting a kickback to put the

stuff in, which is really bad if that's in fact true. I know that one gets hard. I understand the criminal person doing it, but to be Yeah, that's a lot to say. to get connected to that kind of kickback. You risk it and go and yeah. All alleged, all alleged, not saying it's true at all. But I mean, this is why the like, this one girl was going like, do you just want us never to go out as women? Like, can we have one thing? We can't even go to a gay bar with a bunch of gay guys and not be like

possibly trafficked. I mean, horrible. But, you know, again, you gotta be really careful when you're out, when you're having your third or fourth drink, that's when your guard is down and or maybe you've been drinking all day and you know, you want those mixed drinks when you're drinking all day and those are the easiest ones to do.

You maybe don't want a beer, but like at a certain point, I guess you got to say, give me the beer and let me see you open it. I mean, I guess that would be the only safe thing that you could drink. Who's doing that after three drinks? Right, that's exactly it, but that's probably the only safe thing that you could do, right?

Here I'm just trying to think my new product I need to invent is like a cover that goes over your drink, so when they pour it in, if there's something in it. I just feel like when it's that much it's like why go out? Just gonna have a water like out of the plastic bottle. Then just don't even go out. But even if you got a Diet Coke someone could put something in your Diet Coke. So it's like it's just a matter of going out in these places where your guard is down

because you are talking and you're being social which is the whole fun of going out to a bar. Otherwise just stay at your own house and drinking in your backyard, you know, like. Which is a lot of fun. I stand by that brand. But then that you can't do alone either because you might drown in your pool. Well, that's if you're engaging in ketamine is,

I think that's right. Just from drinking, I thought that was ketamine. Well, and no, but anybody could drown. You're not supposed to ever go swimming by yourself. Did you know that? Period, yeah, because you could have a heart attack. Period, whether they're sober or not. Yeah.

And you should always have one other person, one other adult there, even if it's just you and your kid. This podcast saves lives, I'm realizing. This is just the most helpful, juicy health. There he is. Are you watching the valley? Heidi is. So I'm always scrolling when she has a show.

I'm a secondary viewer, but I'm so happy for this whole cast, Alex Baskin and Bravo. But it's very sad that Jackson Brittany, I saw this coming because he came on our podcast and before now I can't, before it would have been like airing Dirty Laundry. But before we started recording, he clearly was like going through it.

How long ago was this? It was like a week before that. Premier? Or the announcement? No, it was like right, when it started like kind of coming, it was so connected. So like a couple months ago. It must have been, yeah. Okay. It must have happened. And he was like, marriage is so, he was like going off and hiding, and I would look at each other,

he's like, you guys get it, and we're like, what is, and he's looking at me like, you better not talk about me, like this, you know, so like intense. Like he was raw, he was coming off of something. We're like a break, like it was over type energy. Like it was so hectic.

I was like, man, that's, I don't think this, like my thought was this is not gonna last, and then it was, it didn't last. But it is sad,. I was like, man, that's, I don't think this, like my thought was this is not going to last. And then it was, it didn't last, but it is sad because I could tell you wanted to make it work for the kid. That was the energy. But I don't think so. But I am so happy he has his restaurant and you know, he's, you know, a lot of people are coming for me in my comment section and DMs about his, you know, at the end of the day, he has been Jack since I first started watching him, you know, so. He's so authentic.

That's why he's a great reality star. And he's funny. And when he's dissing somebody and when he's being a dick, it's him, it's just him. I don't have a, you know, he's always, I'm always, if people are nice to me, how they treat me, people are like, oh, but his behavior on the show, it's like, I don't know if, I don't even, I don't know.

Last time I actually watched him on the show, he had his shirt off in a parking lot. It was like 20 years ago. So that's like the last episode I saw. I've had him on the show a bunch and he's always been really great. And I'm happy that this show came. The show is the surprise of reality TV because all these people are so real. And I think people went in thinking this would be a boring show. I don't want to see something about potty training and babies and it's not that at all. It's whether you're living it yourself or you have friends that are new mommies or like

me, I'm past the stage, but they have a girl that's suffering from postpartum that just had twins and she's being honest about that and she's explaining it really well in a way that like I don't think I've never I didn't have it so thankfully so but I think she explains it really really well and she's struggling with it so we see her we see the struggle with them. Let's hope she doesn't do horoscopes. Why did you not see that story? What story? With the horoscope influencer, like last week. Wait, tell that story.

You didn't see the horoscope influencer that like stabbed her boyfriend and then killed him. Oh, in Woodland Hills. And everyone in the comment section was saying, oh, it's postpartum. I was like, whoa, that seems like some voodoo type. Oh yeah, that was a horrible thing. A woman who had a boyfriend and an eight-year-old and a small infant went crazy, completely crazy. On the eclipse day.

On the eclipse day was like astronomer, not astronomer, astrology. Astrology. Killed her boyfriend, got in a car, threw her two kids out the window. And I want to say the eight-year-old lived and maybe the baby didn't. And then she crashed the car and died. So, way to bring it down. This wasn't down already.

Well, she's not. She's trying to give the value. She's not like that. She's not. Okay, just checking. She's not. But she's being honest about her struggles and her husband's being super supportive. So, we see it to see them. We see another couple who's doing real estate together and they are now separated and she was just on a date with someone else. It's hard time to be in real estate. Hard to work with your spouse and hard to do real estate. As a daughter of two that

were real estate couple, let me tell you, I used to go to bed and be like, when will these two have the sense to call a divorce attorney? But they made it through and they died married. But I'm telling you, it's not easy. So we get to see that. Then with with Jax and Brittany, you know, they're the OGs of reality TV and they have a three-year-old and he's seeing a speech therapist. So they're sharing that. And I'm sure that adds to the struggle of a relationship if you're worried that your son is not making milestones. We experienced that. Gunner did a speech. What people don't realize, and we made the mistake,

sometimes the tongue is too tight. So you actually need a dentist. I don't know. I may DM Jacks. You could have a tongue tied, and it's not a speech delay. It's that the tongue is too tight. It's really that's where the tongue tied expression comes from? Interesting. I was slow to speak tight. It's really that's where the tongue-tied expression comes from?

Yeah. Interesting. I was slow to speak. So there's people that get that and then they're totally fine. I was slow to speak. I don't know if you had a tongue-tied. No, but really, I just remember I went to speech therapy. Yeah, so but that's-

And people will still say, Heather, you mispronounce words and you aren't great at speech. And I remember one time a teacher saying I have a phonics issue. So I still had something, but I obviously have done OK in life. But I was for a couple reasons. One was I was young as a five, so I could just point and all of the kids got me stuff. But I remember not being able to say spooned. I remember being young enough, like sitting in a high chair. And my mom was like, why can't

you say spoon? And I was like, boon, boon. And like, so it can be something, you know, and also my nephew did speech therapy too and he's a sophomore in college and obviously got over. Some people are just, and especially boys, are just a little bit slower. The other thing that with Brandon, he was speaking but it kind of like capped out at a certain amount of words. And I was like, shouldn't he have more words? And when I looked into that, we had a Spanish speaking nanny who also spoke

English, but I was like, ooh, speak Spanish to him. His words are in Spanish. Yeah, speak Spanish. No, but sometimes a kid will pick up both languages, but sometimes it'll be too confusing for them and they'll actually, it'll hurt their ability to get more language. Well, our 18-month-old actually has too many words. I'm like, yo, you just stop talking. You're supposed to have a baby. Like drop something, he's like trash.

I'm like, what the fuck? What are you working for your mom? Like, what the fuck's going on around here? Yeah, so, but it's hard when, you know, we're around a bunch of other kids and you see that these little girls that are Cruz's age maybe, you know, we're speaking much more than, you know,

we hope whatever they're doing, they're getting the help, but that doesn't help the marriage. Now the rumor, the latest rumor is that he is hanging out with this publicist that they both shared and people are on these sites saying, I saw them being flirty. I saw them go to the bathroom together, all this kind of stuff. But these sites are all anonymous people saying it, which could be anybody. It could be a producer from the show. It could be an enemy. It could be someone who just is like a weirdo and wants to see what they can put out there. I don't know. But in hearing

that information, she has now stopped following Jax and this publicist, Brittany. Well, I was defending this when I saw that photo, and Heidi was like, would you ever be in a photo with a woman like that? How they were like chummy in the photo? I was like, I don't know if it's our post. She's looking at me like laser beams through my eyes. I was trying to defend, but I agree.

I don't think I would ever, especially with everything that's going on. But there were also photos in the past where all three of them, and ones with just she and the publicist, like all three of them were like laughing and putting cake in each other's mouth. It didn't look like a threesome,

but it looked like they were really fun. But also I'm like, why is the publicist in photos at all? If you're the publicist, you should be there taking them. Ask Larsa Pippen about that one. Why? What did Larsa Pippen say? Remember that's the drama with Jordan, what's his name? Michael Jordan's son? Oh yeah, Marcus Jordan. Marcus at the BravoCon. There was a big drama because one of the Miami housewives was asking him to take photos of her, not of Larsa,

but of this other cast member. And then Larsa had a thing about this, like, why are you asking my man to take photos of you? So I just... Well, sometimes you're just, sometimes in those situations, people are coming up and- On his phone. Well, I think that's a lot.

Because sometimes I've been at parties or whatever whatever and someone's like, can we get a photo or I need a photo? And I'm literally someone walking by and I'm like, can you just take a photo for us? Is that that rude to do? But I mean, like, I think maybe there's more than like what if it was like a little shoot, you know? I don't know. I saw that they're back together now.

I saw that at Miami Beach. It's exhausting, but it's okay. Good for them. Yeah. Does that publicist have a podcast coming out soon? She probably has one too. I was a publicist. No, but I mean, it does seem a little chummy, it does seem like why are you in the photos?

But I don't care how many people pretend that they want to be just behind the scenes, probably 99% of everybody would like to be famous and get a taste of it until they don't. I mean, a lot of publicists. That girl from Summer House with a publicist, Lindsay, her job was being a publicist. And then she was on Summerhouse. Do you imagine hiring her to do like your event when she is her own famous reality star? Do you ever

watch Summerhouse? Lindsay and Carl, they had a broken engagement. Now they're getting married. But her whole thing was a publicist. And for years, they'd still say, Lindsay, publicist. I'm like, she's not a publicist. She's a cast member. She's not a publicist anymore. She's a cast member. So what do you think he's putting together? Like that's who you're going to hire out of all the publicists. She put together a Chiron. If you're going to hire someone for $10,000 to do a publicity event for you or whatever

to be your publicist on staff, I think someone who's currently on a reality show would be the last person I would hire to do my publicity. Unless she brought the show to the event. Right, I guess that would be the only hook. Maybe that's why. I'll have her come to Frat Night. I'll book her right now if she brings Summer House to my crystal shop.

Okay, so Spencer, tell everybody where they can get more. Oh my God, it's over? Why is this podcast getting so short? Can't we do a bonus hour for Patreon or something? Do you want to? We'll have a little more time. I am not in a hurry, but I was kind of kidding. Wait, okay, well then wait.

Let's end it and then let me use some of this for Thursday. Can I do that? Yeah, of course. Okay. First, so in case people don't come back to Thursday, tell everybody where they can find you and Heidi's music and everything you guys are doing. Please go to Spotify, if you have Spotify, and follow Heidi, not just stream the follows count, because then it puts you in the algorithm.

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