Keep it Positive, Sweetie - Full Circle Moments w/ Saint Jhn

Episode Date: April 21, 2025

This week on Keep It Positive, Sweetie, I had the honor of sitting down with the incomparable talent that is Saint Jhn. His story is raw, real, and deeply relatable—a journey that’s sure to leave you inspired. You don’t want to miss this one.

Calling all my sweeties to the forefront, I'm your host, Chris Renée Hazlett, and this is the Keep It Positive Sweetie Show. Hello, and welcome back to the Keep It Positive Sweetie Show, a safe space to heal, laugh, grow, and love, and keep things real with a positive twist. I'm your host, Chris Renée Hazlett, and I am so excited about today's episode.

We've got an incredibly talented artist in the building. He's a Grammy Award- winning singer, songwriter, and producer who's made waves with his bold sound and fearless storytelling. He's also making incredible waves in the fashion world. I'm talking about the one and only, none other than St. John. St. John, thank you so much for coming. Thank you for having me.

Yes, we are going to break the ice with a quick game. All right, cool. Called Roses and Rapid Fire. All right. Are you ready? I'm ready. All right. So all you have to do is give me one word that comes to mind when I give you a word. First word is fashion. Sexy.

Home. Peaceful. Hair. Luxurious. The bigger picture. Plans. Grammys. Must.

Coachella. Granger. Puerto Rico. Political. Beyonce. Grammys. Book of Clarence. Family. Oh man, I just think of James.

Yes. Guyana. Home. Festival season. On time. All right, I love it. Let's get into it. So I don't know if you remember this, 2017.

It was Emmy weekend, Tyler Perry's birthday. He had a huge party in the backyard. James Samuel was on the piano. Everybody, when I say everybody, they mama, every icon from like, I looked to my left, Appalachino was sitting next to me. And then you look to your right and it's Samuel L. Jackson saying, what up, MF?

Or like, you know what I'm saying? It was like, you just didn't know who you're gonna see. And then James calls this kid to the stage and it was you. writing assembly L Jackson saying, what up MF? It was like, you just didn't know who you're gonna see. And then James calls this kid to the stage and it was you. This is my first introduction to you. And I called Todd last night, I said, what year was that party? And he was like, which one?

And I was explaining, he's like, that was 2017. That was his 50th. It was like, 47. It was like a odd year. Okay. But yeah, it was 47 and we had a time, but that was my first introduction to you and I was an instant fan. Oh, thank you. Yes.

Yes. I want to it's funny. I was telling Donna how things come full circle and that was one of the moments. I was like, wow, like I get to interview him now, but I remember what the first time I was introduced to you. I remember that distinctly. Wasn't that a crazy night? Yeah. Because I was in the back somewhere.

To paint the picture of how dynamic, enormous, and impactful that room was, the world would shake. If that room said, we're going to all do something, the whole planet would shake. Literally. Yeah, it was powerful. It was really really powerful. I remember Mariah Carey being at the bar over here. I remember because James does this so

James would be like look just come just show up and I won't know what I'm showing up for. He's like just trust me just trust me. Yeah and I trust him it's my brother so I'm showing up and pulling up for whatever he needs. I love it. He's like yo yo, just you're going to be all right. That was a pull up. Yeah, that was a pull up. Yeah. That's not the first time he's done that. Wow. That was a pull up.

I remember he passed at this point. Michael. Oh, yes. Michael. What is Michael's last name? He's on the wire. Yes, he was on the wire. He deserves to be celebrated in his name.

What was his last name? Michael with the scar. Omar. Yeah, of was on a wire. He deserves to be. Yes, his name celebrated his name. What was his last name? Omar. Yeah, of course. He said Omar. We definitely know him as Omar. We want to get him. Chalky White from the other movie. Yes. The other show. Why is his name? Why is his name? But it's Michael. His first name is Michael. This was before he passed. I remember Michael Williams. Michael K Williams. Michael K Williams. I remember running into him at the bathroom and he was just, his energy was just turned

like with humility and peaceful and gratitude. And he was just like, I was like, man, this is Omar. Omar with the scar. He's such a nice guy. He's so nice. Such a nice guy. Yeah, that was really sad when I heard of his passing because having an interaction with him as well,

I was like, man, when you meet people and really get to feel their energy, he was like nothing like his characters. Like the way he portrayed was genius. Like he came at every character in such a beautiful way, but then when you get to meet him, it's such a beautiful soul. Special, special soul.

For sure, for sure. That was a really memorable night. It was. Do you remember, I remember Kelly Rowland being in there front row, right? I remember that. And James caught me on stage right after I closed my eyes, soccer pitcher.

It was Usher. I knew you were going to say Usher, yes. And Donald Glover. He popped up out of nowhere. They were doing a duet. Yes. Yeah, it was the craziest night. It was a crazy night.

And then James was like, yo, come do reflex, because that's his favorite song of mine. So he starts performing it with me. It was sort of mind blowing. It was, yeah. We can reminisce on that night alone for like hours. It was such a good night.

So let's talk about your journey. Going back to the beginning, you grew up between Brooklyn and Guyana. What was that like between shift between both cultures? It was poor and poorer. I thought we were at the bottom in Brooklyn because we on food stamps, my mom is working three shifts,

she's a nurse's aide, she's just trying to hustle. By the way, I spent, her and I spent the last couple weeks talking about the word hustle. Because she's old school, my mom is 65. So when I say hustle, and she'd heard me say it like in an interview or something, she's like, I wasn't a prostitute.

Because her only concept of hustle is prostitution. She's like, I wasn't a street walker. I said, mom, come on. You know what I'm saying? But she got it. And she's like, you know what? You're right. I was a super hustler. Yeah, getting to it.

Getting to it, getting to it. Before she knew what the bag was, she wasn't getting to the bag because my mom has four kids. Oh wow. So, and single mom, my pops just wasn't around. He was just off doing whatever he was doing. So she was working as much as she possibly could.

And we were super poor. We had the Monopoly money. That's when the food stamps was, you know, multicolored. And I remember thinking, you know, where as broke as we could possibly get, where as poor as we could possibly be. But what was really, really, really important to her? She was so astute. My mom was so sharp. She was just really clear on her vision

and what she needed for her kids. We lived a block away from the projects, all the time, every time. So I grew up in Brooklyn, there was always one block away from the projects. Because for her, those centimeters and millimeters away made a magnificent difference in what she could make sure she embedded into us

as children. And she's right. It would have been a tremendous difference because we got into so much trouble, so much trauma and drama growing up, me and my brothers, that if I was inside the box, as opposed to 10 millimeters away from the box, we probably wouldn't have been here talking to her. The world would have never heard about me. Wow. You talked about your mother being a preacher. My mom was a pastor, so we were PK kids.

And just like you, every time the doors of the church opened, we was in there. And I know we all, I went through a phase in my life where I was like, I'm not going. Since I got to college, I just stopped going to church. I was like, you're forced to do it your whole life.

And Sunday school, choir practice, Bible study, the meetings like before and after church, you're just like, oh, it's too much. The second service, it's a lot. Have you been able to like find your own relationship with God in your own way? Because I feel like we are the church. It's not a building.

Having to go into someone. How do you like carry that out in your day-to-day life now? So I think it manifests itself in my art, in my creativity, and my portrayal of my creativity, probably even more than in my day-to-day life, because it's such a normal function. It's a normal function of behavior. I'll explain it a little bit better.

So I make music all the time, every day almost. And the cathartic experience of me making music is almost like I'm doing mantras. And I'm almost praying all the time. You'll always hear biblical references, you'll always hear religious references in my music. And it's not things I'm planning or scheduling, it just or conceiving. It's just happening. Right. So it's almost like I'm praying in small planning or scheduling or conceiving. It's just happening, right? So it's almost like I'm praying in small portions constantly.

And if I didn't take stock or have enough self-awareness, I'd miss it. I'd miss all the songs and all the tributes that I make to God. I'd miss it all the time. But as you see, like my name is St. John, my mom named me that, that's my birth name. It keeps following me. It keeps on, I thought I ran away. Right. He's like, I'm right behind you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The cross is my logo. I saw it. Even on your post, you always put the purple emoji with the cross. Yeah. It just keeps, not haunting me wouldn't be the right word, but it keeps trailing me. It's always ever, ever present. That I definitely ran away from the institution of church. I hated that. I hated that I hated what it tried to force upon me.

I hated what it tried to teach me that I had to be. I hated how prejudicial it was and how hell and brimfire. I hate that level of preaching. I didn't like that it wasn't inclusive in whatever your journey could be, or your process could be. But in my daily regimen, my daily practice, I'm giving it up to God all the time,

even in the small ways. My mom told me, she said, I was telling about something I was going through recently, and she said, cool, you just gotta go talk to God. She was like, you know, I don't beg God for nothing. I don't beg for nothing. I used to just go to the. She was like, you know, I don't beg God for nothing. I don't beg for nothing. I just go to the father and I said, look, father is what I need.

Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, yeah, mom, that's it. Yeah, that's it. You don't have to beg him. I mean, just like you wouldn't have to beg your mom for something. Correct. We don't have to beg him.

I love that. I got to meet your mom. She seemed like she could. Yeah. She's special. Very much. I love that. So we meet your vibe. She seemed like she cool. Yeah. She's special. Very much. I love that. So we just finished New York Fashion Week. And one thing I will say about you,

cause I didn't, we had never officially met. Like I think I had posted one of your songs after Tyler's party and you sent me a little emoji, like response or whatever. And I was like, been a fan ever since Tyler's party. You were there. I'm like, yeah. But we never met in real life. And I, when, been a fan ever since Tyler's party. You were there, I'm like, yeah. But we never met in real life.

And I, when I met you last week at Fashion Week, your energy, like, it's not like you're, first of all, you have this confidence when you enter the room, but then like, when you're like, hi, how are you doing? And like, you're just so welcoming. It's not like that, I know I'm the shit. Like, it's like, I know who I am, but hello, how are you?

It's like, I felt that. And just watching you like move through the room, I was like, this guy's got it. You just have it. Where did that confidence come from? I think my first start is probably failing, failing so much. Wow.

Yeah, I've been through so much. I've missed so many times. I'm proud of myself, but not proud of myself because I'm something special. I'm proud of myself because I've never given up on myself. So when I walk in a room, even if it's my first time in a room,

it might be my last time in a room. I might never get back in that room again. And I'm grateful to be there. And I could be the guy that's holding a camera. I could be the guy that's holding the. And I could be the guy that's holding a camera, I could be the guy that's holding the lights, I could be the guy that's moving the plants, I could be the guy in front of the camera, I could be the guy that's moving the magazines.

And I'm aware of that in my life, so I'm always grateful for everybody who's there. I'm like, yo, what's up? Like, I don't know who you are, but I'm sure you're here for a reason, so I just wanna say hi. And I think my confidence comes from all of the things, all the experiences, all of the pitfalls, all of my confidence comes from all of the things, all the experiences,

all of the pitfalls, all the missteps, all of the misinformation, all of the bad nights, but still having to get up in the early mornings to figure out how to do it again. You got to keep the same energy. You know that when people say that? It took me a long, long time to realize what that meant. It means that even when it's bad, even when it's good, when a roller coaster goes up and a roller coaster goes down, when the day is rough, when your hair ain't done, your makeup is messed up, when your shoes is muddy, when your shirt is tatted. Eyelash is about to come off.

Something has to stay standard. Something has to be the same. Keep the same energy. It's all good. One day you're up, next day you're down, long as you stay the same, it'll come back around. I love that. So I kinda live by that. Yeah, speaking of ups and downs,

what is a moment through the failures and the ups and downs that really stood with you and was like, man, I really made it through that? Sometimes it's tough for me to pinpoint because they're daily. I think, you know, if if your skin is clear and you walk in bold and straight, there's a presumption that you don't have to deal with pain or you're just in a peaceful place. So it definitely doesn't mean that. I'm wrestling with shit.

Pardon me if I'm cursing. Yeah, I'm wrestling with things on a regular basis. So I'm trying to pinpoint one of the most challenging times. Oh man. I don't know. We might have to circle back for a second. That's okay. So I just, I know like we all have, for me,

there's moments of my life where I'm like, ooh, that was like a rough season. I think me moving to Atlanta was probably one of my toughest like depressing seasons of my life, trying to figure everything out, starting all over again. That's like one season I remember I was like, that was rough for me, where I really had to lean on my faith because I didn't know where the next meal

was coming from, nothing. But I tell- Is that one of the roughest or is that just closest in reference point? Closest in- no, that was probably one of- That was probably the roughest. Yeah. And it felt so long. Like, you know how sometimes you just have like a bad week.

It felt like a bad year where I was just like, okay now, did I make the right choice coming here? Clearly I did, but- Definitely. Yeah. that was definitely a season Um, I want to talk about your music you have such a unique blend I don't know. There's no genre to put you in a category for me when I listen to your music I thought you kind of touch on everything. What was the inspiration for that was your creative process? I'm free I love that. Yeah, I can tell I move like I'm free. I love that, yeah. I can tell. I move like I'm free.

I live like I'm free. Because in truth, quietly, I'm in search of freedom. Wow. I'm trying to project the thing that I'm In search of. In search of. Like I'm desperately grappling at something that I wanna feel, that I wanna be able to provide

to the people around me, and that I'd like to be able to give as hope for the people who are just observing me. It's the freedom that I'm chasing, the thing that I'd like to be able to give is hope for the people who are just observing me. It's the freedom that I'm chasing a thing that I know is possible that I'm really really really really really desperately trying to hold on to. So when I go make music, because I'm not no natural talent, I'm like I don't care I don't care how I come across and I'm not being humble I'm not this is not this is not humility this is me me being clear, this is clarity. Right?

Maybe I'm special in a way that we're all special. If you sat down with anybody and got to see the inner workings of how their clock worked, you'd be like, oh, that person's magnificent. They do a thing really remarkably. I don't think I'm special in any type of way. I think I'm highlighted because I found my place. But I found my place because I spent my seasons

harvesting my talent, because I wasn't good. Wow. Because I started out just rapping, just battle rapping, just pursuing something I was really desperately interested in and wasn't good at first and then got good. Yeah. And then hit so many brick walls. I spent 20 years making music

before anybody had heard my name. Wow. Like 20 years. That's what we don't hear. Yeah, a real 20 years. Imagine keeping the same energy for 20 years and keeping your skin glowing for 20 years and keeping your physique strong for 20 years and keeping your mind sharp for 20 years and being brave and courageous for 20 years and staying locked in for 20 years. Yeah. It's a lot, It's many, many, many summers. Most people give up on themselves long before the sun rises for them. Literally, no.

And that's why you are where you are today. A lot of people don't make it to be where you are and to live the life you live and to be free and creative because they give up. And when people say, man, that just happened. No, it didn't happen overnight. It was 20 years. It was people say, man, that just happened. No, it didn't happen overnight. It was 20 years. It's 20 years.

Yeah. Yeah, that's real. In those 20 years, I made so many different choices. I made so many different types of styles of music. I just allowed myself to grow. Yeah. So when you hear me and you hear my experiences musically, you're looking like the maturation of somebody

who's in search of freedom that's just living through that. I want to make sure that I represent that when you hear it. So I use my voice as an instrument. It's just an instrument. Sometimes I'm rapping, sometimes I'm singing, sometimes it sounds a little bit like R&B, although I don't know much about R&B. Sometimes it sounds like dance hall, although I'm not overly intoxicated with dance hall at this present point in my life. Sometimes it's country music because I think dance hall and country music is the same thing with a different accent. Yeah.

Yeah, basically. I could hear for some reason, I think I can hear the through line between when the letters a connect to the letters F. I'm just making like a strange comparison. I can hear how you can get from A to F. I'm like, oh no, these things connect. And that's why these relate. And I'm constantly playing and evolving

with sound and lyric and substance. So I'm honestly, you're watching honest experiments. Right, when you hear the music. So I'm genre diversion because I'm just honestly experimenting. Trying to find it. Do you feel like you found your sound or do you feel like it's always evolving?

It's always evolving. I found my truth. And then my truth is the core of my sound. Cause I'm always just telling my story. Right. So no matter what it sounds like, I was given this example. So I could be making a horror film

or I could be making an action movie or I could be making a rom-com. But I'm always believable because I'm telling my truth within that story. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got you. That makes sense. I love that.

You started off doing songwriting for people but then you stated, I was having success, but who wants to live their dreams through someone else's eyes? At what point, what was that aha moment that, no, I need to be doing this for myself? Like, what was that shift? Were you in the studio when you were like,

wait, what am I doing? Like, when did you have that moment where you're like, I need to do this for myself? There was about, there was two of them. So maybe three. So there's one time I was writing songs and it was before I got any like significant placements by placements, I mean, any progress with any landing, any songs with any major artists, right?

I remember I started songwriting and it was maybe let's say two years into like really honing my craft and getting good. And I would have meetings with A&Rs or record executives. Like by the time I finally figured out how to be useful. Songwriting by the way for me was the first time in my life that I was in service of someone, in service of something else.

It was the first time that I came into a room and asked, what could I do for you? As opposed to asking for something that I needed. And by virtue of asking other people what I could do for them, it changed my life. It opened my world. First of all, it sat me down and humbled me. It let me know, you're not as important

as you think you are, shut up. Going to the back of the room, listen, take criticism, take judgment, internalize it, recycle it and become better, get great. It was like training camp. Because most, when you're an artist, you believe you're right because you believe in yourself. When you become in service of somebody else's art, you have to take criticism, critiques,

you have to take judgment, you have to, you get sharper because it's someone else's lens, someone else's vision. So it's an incredible training course. So I remember finally having relationships enough to have meetings with A&Rs and I'm having these A&R meetings and having these management meetings and I'm giving them my songs and playing my songs and maybe 24 months into that, right? Because that's just one part of it. Right. They started, someone said, oh, this is really good. This song is really good. I was like, oh, that meant, I thought

that that meant something good. Yeah. It's like, but I can't take it. I was like, well, you just said it's really good. They were like, it sounds too much like you. Oh my God. And it took me 12 months from that point to see the value in that statement. That statement changed my life. It sounds too much like you. It sounds too much like me. You're like, that's it. Took me 12 months to go, oh, oh, I got it.

Yes. Oh, I got it. You got it. I'm not invisible. Yeah. You hear me. You can't even avoid me through the thing that I'm trying to hide myself behind to be in service of somebody else's. That's powerful.

And that changed me. And then the first time I'd written, like I got the Usher record. And like, I guess a year or so had passed. I think there was a time period between Usher record and Closing My Eyes, I can remember correctly. The Usher record in a song that I wrote called Roses, which was intended for Beyonce. That was the intended target. So I'm just songwriting at this point. I'm in my friends, I'm in my producer, who was a friend of mine, his name is Fallen. I'm in his bedroom in Bushwick

and we're making these records in his bedroom. And they were like, yo, yo, whoever the A&R was at the time, it's like, yo, we need records, we need ideas for B. And I was like, okay, cool. I know what I want her to do. That's what I was thinking. Like, as a fan, this is where I want her to go next. This is unexplained territory.

So I wrote Roses, and it was in between writing Roses and writing Crash for Usher and we sent Roses in and I think there was no response at first and then there was a response like, nah, this isn't it. Whatever it was. I'm butchering whatever the language that came back. But I knew that I believed in the song so much that I was clear. I was like, oh, they don't hear it. Yes. Oh, they don't hear it. That doesn't mean this isn't what it what I think it is.

That just means they don't hear it. Right. There's nothing wrong with that. And if I think this is what I think it is, then it's for me. I'll go put it out. I love that. And I did that. I think it was 2016 when the conversation happened and I put it out in 2017.

Wow. And it was phenomenal. Yeah. Do you feel like that's the song that changed everything? I think a bunch of things changed my life because if I'd have just put that song out in 2017 and sat down, nothing would have happened. Right. I think the fact that I put the song out,

went on tour when no one knew my name, when no one cared about me and I opened, I was first of four for work doing, I was opening for Post Malone. Oh, wow. The first of four, look, you don't gotta be in music, you don't gotta be in art, you don't gotta be in fashion. To be the first of four for the headliner

is a terrible position to be in if you see it that way. Right, if you see, yeah, it's gotta see your perspective, yeah. I saw it as an opportunity. Good. Right, that means he comes on. That'd be the best of these four. Absolutely.

He comes on at 9.30, doors open at 7, and I'm on at 7.10. And maybe the room at capacity is 1,500 people and by the time I start performing that maybe there's 85 people, maybe there's a hundred and ten. Yeah. And I'm just giving everything I got because those hundred and ten people are gonna know my name. Yeah, yeah. I just moved my feet and did the work. I just kept doing the work. Yeah. And that is what changed my life.

That's what allowed me to match the energy of a song that I knew the world should hear. So the song was before its time. And I had to catch up in energy. So the song went this way and I had to go this way. So it was waiting for me to match its energy. I love it. I just love how life works.

In closing, I wanna talk about a few things. We want to be nosy. All right. All right. We'll start off easy first. How do you maintain your work life balance? I don't have a work life balance. OK, just it's whatever like work is life. Yeah, work is life. Yeah, I don't. I feel you. Yeah, yeah. I record in my living room because I don't want there to be a separation between church and state for me.

When I'm done working, I want to go to bed. And when I wake up at peace, I want to go to work. I love it. And I need it to be fluid. That's why I can tell my truth because I'm not rehearsing anything. I'm not prepping anything to get to a place. I remember when I was just getting started, the studio time was $20 an hour, and I could only be in a studio for an hour and a half because I'd only saved up 30 bucks. Yeah.

Wow. I remember that guy in the back of my head. Yeah. So when I finally got into a position where my home could be my studio, I'm like, I want to be able to work when the idea strikes me. Yeah, right then.

I wake up at eight o'clock and I'll be in the studio by 8.09. I know that's right. I'll do 25 pushups and start recording and then knock on the door to wake up my engineer, like, Louie, get up. Get up, I got something. I got something. It's time.

I love that, I love that. Are you in a relationship? Yeah. You are? Yeah. Okay. He said, yeah. What is the DNA of the perfect mate for St. John?

Like, how would you describe that person? She has to be humble and bold. And I'm in love with a hustler. I'm in love with somebody who knows how to go and get it. Yeah. Figure it out. I like a brilliant, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot. All I ever wanted was a brilliant dot, dot, dot, dot, dot.

I'm a big fan of a triple melanin girl. Of a super chocolate one. Love it. Yeah, of a brown skin queen. Brown skin girl? Yeah. Is that the inspiration behind that? Yeah. Yeah, I love it. One of them, I'm here for that. Brown skinned girl? Is that the inspiration behind that? Yeah.

One of them. I love it. Do you want children? Wow, what a big question. I'm pausing because there's so much that goes with that. It's not a simple thing. It's not like, yo, I just want children. If you want children, you're going to have to figure out how to feed them, how to love

them, how to guard them, how to provide for them mentally how to safeguard their future Come on, I had a craft a plan for them Despite the plan you have for yourself You're gonna have to figure out how to parallel lines work together even when they separate sometimes that's real So yeah, I love to have children But I need to be able to give them all the things that I know that are important because now I'm wiser than I've ever When my mom had me she ain ain't no, no better. My mom comes from 10, and she created four.

And all of my brothers and sisters have kids, and I'm thinking to myself, I held out the longest. I kept a good fight going. Right? Me too. I did as much as I possibly could. And I wanna be, it'd be a tragedy for me to lead this planet and not let someone inherit all the things that I learned intuitively, like stand as close to me as possible and

say, yo, look, I got it for you. I know how we're going to do this. I'm going to make this better for you. I got all this love for you. All of these failures that I failed, I can teach you. But I need to be able to do it honestly and earnestly and with full energy and attention. And I can't take a break from the things that I love outside of my familial life.

So I have to figure out that juggle, so I'd love to. I'd love to be in a place where I got, there's a little one I walk in here and you're like, oh, you see him in a car? You reading that book I gave him. That'd be cool. But I gotta do it the right way. It has to be done the right way

or I'm gonna produce something that was as messed up as I was. And I have to figure out how to heal myself. Still I am, I'm still figuring that out. I love it. St. John, thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Is there anything else?

I want to know what's next that you can tell our audience to how we can support you in your future endeavors. What's coming up? I'm going on tour again. I'm really excited about that. Okay, we got to go on tour. We got to hit one of those rides. So I start festival season tour.

Tour is my most honest version of myself. I make it a plan not to lie about who I am, what I am, and what I'm trying to do. But on tour because it's just me and a microphone and a captive audience. And I don't think I'm as creative as other people think I am. So when I'm on that stage, I can't hide from you. No, it's the most exposure. This's like, yeah, it's me and you. Seventy something minutes. The lights are either bright or moody. I can't be so clever that I come up with all of this storyline.

My memory ain't even that good. I be forgetting my lyrics. So much less the nonsense I plan on saying. So I'm even going to give I got to give you my truth. So whatever it is, I'm giving my truth. So my touring me is the most vulnerable, open, unhinged me possible. So if you really see that and you love that, then you figured out a way to love me for who I am.

So I'm really excited to go back on tour. I love it. I cannot wait to come see you. You're going to love it. I am so excited. You're going to love it. Well, anyway, we will definitely support you. Sweeties, make sure you download his new album when it comes out and we will definitely

catch you in one of your tour days. Thank you so much. Thank you. Seriously, you have been a joy. I absolutely love your energy. Thank you so much. Thank you. I love yours too.

And congrats, seven seasons. Thank you. Thank you. It's no small feat to do anything consistently. Wow. Yeah. Thank you. I received that.

Thank you. It's a miracle for real. No. And it looked good and it smelled good. The hallway smelled good. You know how hard that is? I was like, what the heck is going on through here? It smells weird. I'm like, yeah. Yeah, you doing it.

I love it. I love it. We are coming out with actually some home candles. Oh. Shameless plug, but I'll send you. Oh, line me up. I got you. Yeah.

I got you. That's one of my next endeavors. Okay, come on. Look at my clap. Yeah, I love that. Is it? Well, I'm not going to ask about this. This is probably not yours. No, this is one of the same ones. This is one of the joints? Yeah. My dog. Yeah. Yeah, I need that.

I got you. We'll send you a big one. Yeah. Thank you. No, thank you for having me. Of course. This is dope. Oh my goodness guys. My episode with St. John was more than I could have ever imagined. His energy, his spirit, his journey was so inspiring. The one thing I took from him was when he said

that it was 20 years until he got his first shot. And also he said it wasn't until he was in service of others that he really learned everything he needed to learn. So that's a note I think we can all take is be of service to others. Wow, what an amazing conversation with St. John. I hope you're leaving inspired as I am. He's a true testament to staying authentic and working hard and trusting the journey. Thank you for tuning in to another episode of the Keep It Positive, Sweetie show. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with someone that can use a little positivity. Follow me on all platforms at Love Chris Renée,

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