Keep it Positive, Sweetie - Help Is On The Way with Kountry Wayne

Episode Date: September 26, 2023

Season 2 Episode 3 | I’m so excited to welcome my friend and Praise This co-star Kountry Wayne to the couch! We talked about his experience growing up, his past life as a drug dealer, his love for G...od, road to success and so much more. Make sure you buy his new book “Help Is on The Way: Stay Up and Live Your Truth” and watch his Netflix special ” A Woman’s Prayer”.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to this episode of Keep Your Poses, sweetie. Today I have, Mr. Jesus is Bob and himself. Yeah. Country Wayne. Hi, you're welcome. Do you want to be addressed as the Wayne? Well, yeah, people call me Wayne. Wayne.
Starting point is 00:00:23 People just be like Wayne. Wayne, okay, so Wayne, we got Wayne in the house. For sure. Better known as country Wayne, you have a new book out called Help Is On The Way, which is what we titled this episode. Okay, that's a set. I think about Help Is On The Way.
Starting point is 00:00:36 The first ending comes in mind is that church song. Yeah. Help Is On The Way. I can't see, yeah. Yeah, definitely. With the Houston song going on. Preachers White. Sure did, yeah. I love't see. You're definitely. With the Houston song going on. Preaches what? Sure did.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Yeah, I love her version. Mm-hmm. So good. So good. Let me tell you a little bit about you in case you don't know. I'm going to tell you a comedian, a social media personality, who is formerly a rapper. Yeah. I didn't even know that.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Yeah, yeah, I just bit. But it ain't worked. It didn't work. No. Okay. You know for your comedy content, which is what, but it ain't work. It didn't work. No. Okay, you know for your comedy content, which is what how I was introduced to you on Instagram, but you had a video that went viral in 2014 on Facebook.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Is that when everything just kind of went? Yeah, that's when it owned. Well, the video took off, but I didn't take off, but I took off with it like I kept working. You saw something. You wanted something here. Yeah, I already knew. For sure. That's good. Okay. You made funny short videos about life and convenient unfortunate moments and then since 2015 you've been doing stand-up comedy which is really taking off. I've noticed it's here on the road all the time now and you've
Starting point is 00:01:39 appeared in films such as Brazilian Wavy, The Turnaround, Holiday, Heartbreak and then most recently the movie is together praises. Praises, yeah. Yeah. Some of the other movies you name in films such as Brazilian Wavy, The Turnaround, Holiday, Heartbreak, and then most recently, The Move We Dids, You Got The Praise This, You Got The Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some of the other movies you name, I don't even know what they, I don't know. Did you do this? It was one of my own, I didn't really do that.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Where's my, let's turn it like, No, no, it was something, you know how to be, You know how to be your first though, I ain't gonna knock people moving, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you like me, you know what I how to be me first though I ain't gonna not be able to move right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You like me, right? Yeah, I guess I didn't do that. Don't watch.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Yeah. That's what we're doing. It's evening. We're gonna find these movies. I like you know how to do it. Okay. So I remember I met you on the set of phrases. You were the DJ.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Yeah. You had some really funny moments in that, too, and funny, and you're very quiet on set. Yeah, I'm a quiet person for it. I'm a great listener. Mm, gosh, you're okay. So I guess you are extroverted when it comes to work. Yeah, but like, Wayne, in real life, is just kind of chill.
Starting point is 00:02:41 I'm chill, I'm real chill, because that's how I soak up my content. Okay. I listen to people, So I'm a great listener. In the order to be a great talker you got to be a great listener. So I just like to listen. I love that. That's good. So tell me clearly about you. I know you grew up in a small town in Georgia where at a young age you're exposed to criminal activity. Yeah. I want to know a little bit more. Yeah man. Well, hey, it's something to book. I was a dope boy. So, you know, I was a dope boy in the time. My daddy was a dope boy.
Starting point is 00:03:08 My uncle was a dope boy. So, you know, I hustled. As soon as I graduated high school in 2006, I started hustling immediately. I got a call. I got 10 years probation. And then I tried to go work in nine to five, but child support was kicking me in. So I had a, it wasn't enough. So, man, it wasn't enough.
Starting point is 00:03:25 So how many kids do you have about the end? How many? I was 22 with seven kids. Wang. What? That's why everybody's thinking now. They don't know. I haven't been on, I haven't been really,
Starting point is 00:03:34 you're doing it. I haven't been like that since, I'm 22, I'm 35 now. I haven't been like that since. I was out there like, from the age of 14 to 22, those were my real women days. So people have been seeing me, I got a lot of kids, they'd be thinking like, but no, I had seven of them
Starting point is 00:03:54 by the time I was 22, since I was 22 to 35 on that three kids. Wow, okay, so you slowed down a lot. Slowed down a lot. Okay, so get back to it when your child's part was kicking you ass. Child's part was kicking me and my daddy's brother, we were riding one day. And I was like, bro, I asked some of us, I said, man, we get some money to go to work.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I wouldn't pay you back when I get paid. Say, son, I was just about to ask you. So I went to the bank, got me along, because I always kept my credit straight. And I knew how to go to my new bed banks. I got a bar some money when it bought me a full weight. What's the full weight? The 4.5 miles of the cocaine.
Starting point is 00:04:29 I ain't look back ever since. I was, man, it was a killer flippin'. I'm not as right. Wow, that's crazy. So yeah, night clubs all day. You wouldn't got alone to get some cocaine. Yeah. You were a business man for real.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Yeah. Yeah, business man, I'd like might like to think I'ma go get this one and get this and then I'll pay the loan back. Pay the loan back. And still have extra money. Still have extra money, man. So I was taking a child's support. And I was chasing my dreams. So this time when I went back,
Starting point is 00:04:57 I ain't going just to sell drugs. I was like, man, I'ma go be I'm pushing my career. So I was using the money. Some of the money to fund my rap career. Wow. You know, but you know, so I was using the money. Some of the money to fund my route career. Wow. You know, but you know, so that side was, I was in small town. Big fish. What part of Georgia was it?
Starting point is 00:05:11 Millen Georgia. Mill half-hour is there for Millen? About three hours. Okay. But then I went to Staceyburg, Georgia. So that's about three, Georgia Southern University. Yeah, that's about to say yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Did you go to, that's where you went to school? No, I ain't going to. I went to college. I went to college. I went to community college just to get the student loan check. That my first time buying cocaine. What's that? Wait, oh my god. I got this, I got this student loan and pill grant.
Starting point is 00:05:42 I was listening, yeah. I didn't get, I had my last year of college, I got to see them on other net dollars, I had scholarships. But you turned them down? You turned them down? My parents are really big on not coming out of those cars with debt.
Starting point is 00:05:56 So, I had to get that money. I had to get it. It's through the loan. It felt like free money. And so you got to pay it back. They never never free. Listen, I know a lot of people right now like please forgive me for my through the long. Black people don't forget they sell. Yeah, I don't know why they were wearing about that. Man, why ain't everybody that's through the long bill like that.
Starting point is 00:06:17 They're gonna hit a lot of people. We pay that bad. Like nobody's been just paying those through the long back. Right. Your career got to be set. And then you got to me, you said again, you gotta be double-crossed like, are you sure I'm making this money? Right. And then pay it back, right? I wish you.
Starting point is 00:06:30 I'm not paying for it, man. They're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're Chris Boy. Not for real. We care about this though when we get up. When you're there, you're not thinking that. I'm trying to survive right now. I don't care about no student loan or hospital bills. You should have gotten me when I was at the hospital. I'm not paying that stuff. We're getting a comedy show with the show. I love this. This is so good.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Okay, so you ended up going to Statesboro. Then what was like the shifts where you started to see, okay, you sound drugs. And what was the shift where you like, okay, let me, did your career start taking off? We're like, I don't have to do it anymore. What's the next point? No, I sold it for 2014 when I went viral.
Starting point is 00:07:25 With the comedy, I quit the rapping thing right then. And I just started being a system. But I was still, I had over a million followers. People know me. And I still hustling the whole time. I had a nightclub. And then I got my second nightclub. So I could finally quit selling dope.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Because I wouldn't get in the old, I wouldn't get shows like that. I was getting some shows. But January 2016, I finally quit for real. And I started, I said, I'm gonna do this comedy for real. And then I started touring. But I was making like a third or fourth of a month, but I was like, man, this ain't nothing. Cause you know, the child's putt, you know.
Starting point is 00:07:58 But then, this time you had him in kids, we was up to what? I was at eight. Eight, okay. I was at eight. But what okay. I was at eight. But what happened was I went to a show one day and I made 20 coming to club and I made like 20 grand in one week. And a week, you know what I can do is in one weekend. I said, oh, I'm from the big of me.
Starting point is 00:08:20 No, I knew I was about to make it. So then I was like, but that was 2016 when I really felt that confidence really quick. You know, every single day, you know, I've just been granted. I love that. I love that. So I know a lot of comedians find humor and the inconvenience in their pain as Kevin Hartz has laughed at my pain. What is that what really started and what was the thing you're like,, I'm gonna talk about this. I wanna shed light on this and let's make fun of it. Oh, because I had information on the streets.
Starting point is 00:08:53 So I knew nobody could tell my story because most people don't make it out the way I did. And I was sober through the whole thing because I never did drugs. So the whole time through my mama life, my uncle's life and my life, I was able to capture these moments and pictures, you know, and women, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:09:09 So I learned women. My mama told me a lot about them. So me learning women, I knew a lot of people weren't gonna be able to talk about it as detailed as me because I listened to women. So you were sober through it, so. Yeah, I'm sober, so I know what it. So you don't drink and nothing, nothing, nothing.
Starting point is 00:09:23 No, I don't. And you're vegan. Yeah. I'm sober, so I know it. So you don't drink or nothing? No, I don't. And you're vegan. Yeah. Wow. So you just, temple is just clean. Ain't nobody preferable guy, but I drink water. It might your visit.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Yeah. The business that fades. I know that's right. So you have a new book called Help Is On The Way. Stand Up and live your truth. And you talk about a couple lessons in the book and one of them was sometimes all you have is your pride and that's often the only person who can help you push you forward is you. You mentioned in the book about being introduced to God at the age of six. Just tell me about your experience in your faith because you're very vocal on Instagram. And I'll be honest with you, one of the things that really made me say,
Starting point is 00:10:08 I want Wayne on this show, was when you talked about forgiving your parents. That was, I talked about on my Get To Know Me episode, some things that I went through my childhood, and just the pressures of that, and learning as adults to forgive our parents, for whatever you'm saying we have been holding or whatever. And when you said that, I was like, wow,
Starting point is 00:10:27 you hit home, it was like the timing of that post was like precise. And I was like, wow, I just even your perspective and to be mature enough to be like, hey, dad, I forgive you. What, how's that journey even being introduced to God? And how was he with you even when you were doing the things?
Starting point is 00:10:44 Yeah, I just, you know, when I was young, I heard my grandma and my mom were gonna talk about Jesus. So I was, I chose to believe it for real. They was talking about them, but I'm gonna tell them, okay, this is what we believe in. So I really was crazy enough to really believe in Jesus in that six years old. Like I put in my book, I was talking to a flower one day
Starting point is 00:11:03 and I was like, I know you can talk. And then and I was like I ain't gonna tell nobody if you're just speaking to me it's between me and that flower was saying yeah well I went to the house told my mom and then came I said look the flower talk I said come and listen to the flower I say look now I know I said I want to tell nobody and that flower ain't say nothing to the jump, but I always had crazy faith and I seen it work. I felt on the bus at one time and I flipped and I told my mom and she came out of the
Starting point is 00:11:33 room and I said no God. He helped me down and let me slow so I had this crazy faith and I just seen it in life. Everything I got in, I was able to get out. I was able to get out like, even when I saw drugs, I know Jesus was real because he cleaned my reputation. I got all these kids and all my parents, but when people see me, they don't feel that energy. And I'm like, but it was him, but I picked up the barber 2012 while I was in the streets
Starting point is 00:12:02 because you lose them. You lose God on the way to life when you start wanting to be yourself and I learned. Even though I wasn't with him, he was still with me. And I felt his word. Because he can't be in no mess. But that's why he give you his word and come and sense. So I noticed the difference of having his word
Starting point is 00:12:20 and having him. But 2012, I was up, had money, had, you know, the call. I was like, I'm up in the wrong world. I say, I'm the man working at bedonels is actually better than me right now because if I got $100,000, I'm in the streets. I'm on the negative end of the rule. Remember in school, you got 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, negative 50gat and Gain has no less than that. And it says it in the Bible, so I'm like, I don't really so far behind. So I picked that Bible. It was my niece Bible, and I still got that Bible.
Starting point is 00:12:53 It's in the truck right now. And nobody told me how to read it. I said, man, everybody tellin' go to this verse, go to that verse. I started from the beginning. And I read it through a tomb by the year. Until this day, I read it through seven times. On my A-trip now, and I don't miss a date, but it was that word.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Wow. That was the origin of life. And once I tell them to that, he started getting me out of the streets. And then when the social media came, I was knew what it was. I had just read a verse. He said, try this, try this, try that. And he said, perhaps I'll love him. And it could happen.
Starting point is 00:13:27 And I seen it. And I would like, so everything, something come, old, this way. So you can apply it. I can, you know, it's preparation for it. Wow. All right. A man after guys on heart.
Starting point is 00:13:41 That's amazing. I love that. I love that you, it's very impressive that you've read the Bible seven times in your age trip. That's crazy. A lot of people don't even have their attention span. Like, how long do you read every day? I read a page a day when I first started, I guess my spirit was so hungry.
Starting point is 00:13:59 I was reading like 15 pages. But then I got to the point where it only had to be one time a day. Because you know it now, you just more like a refresher. No, it's just like, it's so much, if you read too much, it's like good food. Yeah, mm, okay, yeah. It's real good, it's potent, so you got to take it in and that verse be,
Starting point is 00:14:19 that verse be in and everybody trying to understand by the read and I had to learn, you don't supposed to understand it all the time. It's like, if you take I had to learn, you don't supposed to understand it all the time. It's like, if you take medicine for your foot, you don't know how I get to there. You go through your mouth. So the Bible, when it comes in you, it comes out when needed.
Starting point is 00:14:34 And it really helped me with business for real, because I get my... You do. I... Every deal, I just can feel... I just know what to... That discernment. no, no. And most of the time, we're by the time
Starting point is 00:14:48 it comes to me, it already be, because energy just knows. Yeah. So that battle is important, from real, especially when it comes to this world, because it's the world's wicked. It is, it is a very wicked world. Did you ever go through a season of unbelief
Starting point is 00:15:03 and staying away from God? Maybe because of what you were doing, or were you like always like tapped in. There was never, people tried to run me away. Wow, people tried to run me. The church. At the church tried to run me away. I went out there at the nightclub and then we had successful night and nobody got in the fight. I put on Facebook. Thank you God for letting us have a safe night at the club and people from the church and the community was like, we don't like the way country Wayne put in God and what he doing. I say, why would God go help something clean? We in the club, we had to save night. I don't
Starting point is 00:15:37 care what they say. So even now when I did the Jesus Popping Brand, people were like, you put that in what you're doing because you know I got the women in the skits playing these roles. I'm like, bro, man Jesus is whatever I'm doing. Hello. I love you. And if I'm doing so wrong, help me get out. So I need them anyway.
Starting point is 00:15:55 So, no, I never lost my faith. I lost a lot of things. I don't lost money before. I don't lost people. But I always hit on my faith. I ain't never, because That's all I got. You know? That's so good.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Have you ever like, how do you push, I know there's been dark moments in your journey and I don't have to go too deep. No, no, no, no. Go really deep. Okay. What are some of those dark moments and how did you like, with nobody else's watch and nobody sees Wayne, what are things that you do and how do you push yourself out of those dark places?
Starting point is 00:16:25 Man, I give it to God. Man, when I get a headache, I give up quick. I'm like, I'm dead, God help. I'm dead. I die, I don't try to fight through nothing. So I give it to God. So God daily. Like, during the pandemic, I was broke
Starting point is 00:16:38 because the pandemic hit. I had like a hundred grand, but I was about to go on tour, so I'm going to make that little seven hundred or a quick one, saying, but paying them a hit, we can't work. My bills were seven to grand a month. I got down to 13,000. Wow, wow, wow.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I was selling Nutri-Burst. I was about seven. I had to put the tea on. I had them on the link tree. If you could have, if you could have screen shot my link tree, you would have seen Nutri-Burst up there. I had got me on it. I had got me link tree. If you could have, if you could have screenshot my link tree, you would have seen Nutri Burst up there. I had got me a box truck off into Amazon and Rouse. I started there yesterday.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I got to try, yeah. But I was, that was a dark place because now I'm worried about my family, because I know I got faith. Yes, yes. I got faith. I wasn't worried. You were gonna be good, but they faith is in my money. So I'm like, you know, I so really I worked hard just for Ducca.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I got him, but that was a dark place. I'm like, now they can't worry so much. But I was kind of happy that they got to see that moment. Because now they can realize it was never my money. It was my faith while I got my money. But they didn't believe I, they thought I had money. I'm like, bro, I ain't got it. I had to show accounts.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Yeah. But that was a dark moment, man. But I remember the feeling. I'm like, here we go again. I did my head just like this. They went to counseling them so I did my head. I remember my head just like this. God went and counseled no show. I did my head. I remember my head did just like this. God, who go again? Yeah. My brother over there, he told me, say, we feel the sea if all this help is on the way to the real.
Starting point is 00:18:16 And it's a limit is was watching my stomach. I'm telling this. I know. So everybody watching me scream Jesus off. So so they wait on some some time. People wait on some bad happen to me because they were like, is he going to keep their joy? Yes. Celebrities So everybody watch me scream Jesus off so they wait on some time people wait on something bad It happened to me because they were like is he gonna keep that joy? Yes, it's a leverage We're watching my page and it's one guy who got a podcast He was like man the comedian is looking me up. Stop now. It's one of my scene trying to sell some tea You talk to me. I knew she bird But they were just wanting to see what I'm gonna do now. And I was grateful at that moment, because in that moment, what, again,
Starting point is 00:18:46 just like he did back in the day. He turned my life around to the point where I don't even need to answer to me. He gave me something that is so unique and so, for me, so, yo, in those dark moments, I just give it to him. Yeah. Well, I ain't leaving him.
Starting point is 00:18:59 I ain't leaving him. I don't give it, because he ain't going to embarrass you. No, you won't, no, at all. You know what I'm saying? I don't give a, because he ain't going in bad shape. No, you won't, you know, at all. You know what I'm saying? I don't trust the world. Yeah, I remember during COVID, and that was a hard time for everybody. I was blessed enough to still be getting paid,
Starting point is 00:19:16 because I was on Tyler's payroll. So I was, even through that time, I was, I was, I didn't miss anything. That was nothing but the greatest thing. Oh hell, I never got it. Nothing but God. Yeah. No, was, I didn't miss anything. That was nothing but the grace of God. Oh hell, never got you. Nothing but God. Yeah. Oh no, I didn't will.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Yeah. Everything stopped. I should have been over here. I'm just so. I wasn't here yet with the townhouse, but I remember just, it was just even like the isolation and like, okay, what kind, anytime something like that happens, and I'm going through it again with the strike that's
Starting point is 00:19:42 happening right now, I always find a way to how can I come out of this better. You know this is the time that God has set me down. What can I do to hone in on different skills? And now I'm in the position, I feel like I'm in my own pandemic with the strike because we're not working and acting with my bread and butter. I got two shows and that was like I'm good, like I can just enjoy, work literally work up one month out of the year. In this I booked something else. For those two shows it could be sheet really fast and then I had the rest of the year just enjoy my life. So now that we're not working we had just worked in March or April for
Starting point is 00:20:18 sisters and then I was like I was supposed to be working right now for the team which is my big check. So I'm like oh good you good. You know, I'm thinking I'm good. And now it's like, we don't know when we're going back to work. So it comes in like budgeting. And like yourself, like overhead is like 50k over. You know what I'm saying? For everything. And it's like, cool.
Starting point is 00:20:35 OK. Everything you see, like my account is like, all right, we can, what you can do, we can live off of this for a half or long, but you have to stick this budget. So now, DeNor and and I are working on other things. And it's just this pandemic that we're going through right now, what we call it. The strike is forcing me to look at other streams
Starting point is 00:20:55 and things I'm passionate about and things that I love. So it's like a restructure of phase all over again. I think a lot of people, some of the people are asking about that other day, I was like, what does this thing is going to do for actors? I think a lot of actors, somebody asked me about that other day. I was like, what do you think is going to do for actors? I think a lot of actors are going to be more creative and business savvy after this. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Because it's going to force them to, because that's what it did for me, man. I would have never, if I would have had a bunch of money put up, I would have never built this, because sometimes people got to know that song William Murphy got, it's working, and it's your season. When you know you got them, everything they go bad
Starting point is 00:21:31 is in your favor. So you got to just soak that in black. No matter how, and it get ugly because the devil, he sent tests. God don't test nobody. See people don't know that. The devil, the only one that sent tests. Wow.
Starting point is 00:21:43 You know, he sent tests, but as long as people hold on to that faith, and I know that sign like Grum on them, and be like, all here, everybody being said that, but what that faith in him, every time. And that's what it is. I think that's what it's going to take. You know, that's what's happening now, because the way they shut out of the industry, I was like, hold up, bro, I understand they try and get momentum, but they're gonna get people so money because I know it's the union, we need, but it's a crazy time. You know, that's why I feel I feel for. Hey, sweetie, we're gonna get back to this week's episode
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Starting point is 00:22:58 that faith, you know what I'm saying? But that faith is going to get everybody through everything. Yeah, no, absolutely, no, for real. You also talk about living in your truth. You can say, don't hide from where you came from, celebrate it, this is what makes you original. And a lot of people from the streets shy away from talking about their love for God
Starting point is 00:23:15 and fear of making them look soft. We talked about, you talk about it on social media all the time, but you're like, Jesus has been popping. That's why I love that, she was like, a man who does not mind screaming from the mountain top. Have you ever had people like, I know you said in the Dundepend, and people like, we just, they're looking to see,
Starting point is 00:23:33 like, if you're gonna lose your joy. Have you had people come to you recently or doing your journey saying, why are you always screaming about Jesus? That's the question I get. Really? That's the question I get. Really? That's the question I get the most.
Starting point is 00:23:46 But now, I used to talk about it online. But God told me to hush. And now as they see my life going up, they don't need to question them all. They started to believe. Yeah. Because the way my career been, it's been a different ride. And I went on Good Morning America.
Starting point is 00:24:03 And I remember, you know, because you can't. For real, they don't let you say Jesus in these places. It's just like and I went on Good Morning America and I remember you know because you can't for real they don't let you say Jesus in these places it's just bad for business we're not against it but I went on Good Morning America the first thing they did was zoom in on my chain my purpose was looking like wow because she couldn't believe because they were kind of like you know we you know how they are about it but I do, yeah. But what I learned, it's people out there even in them evil places, that real pimp, they just not bold enough to say his name. Yes, yes, oh, absolute. What I learned, people who say his name,
Starting point is 00:24:35 strong, it's people out there that are really in that industry, but I got some people out there in my favor that be pushing for me like. And it's like, but people, that's the question they give me. That Jesus thing, everybody wanna know, could everybody deep down know I've grown my total of that. And we got, people don't got a way from it. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:24:54 That's the universe. Yeah, now the universe, man, I hate people come to my, when you're birthday, oh, it's attitude. Well, what happened to that Leo, you ain't no, you gon' break your heart? I'd be like, man, come on, man. I'm not, they be everybody. People don't know how to put the batteries right in their mouth.
Starting point is 00:25:11 But I was up there to know about the store. Yeah. All right, bro, come on, man. We just the same thing, Grumma and them talked about. Yeah. He been around that long for a reason. He has. As an idiot, our industry is very, very funny about that.
Starting point is 00:25:25 I love it when people get on stage at award shows and say, thank you Jesus. Thank you. You understand that you're not just thank you God, because there's so many guys in this world, you know? Exactly. Like, there's different guys, but there's only one Jesus. There's only one Jesus, but.
Starting point is 00:25:40 And people skip, but if you pay attention, the people I've seen really stand on it Industry can't stop them. It's a dude in Marvel Chris press. I love him. Yeah, they'll be them and then like I told him I say I seen them going in one day because deep down That's what only thing they said I had seen a guy say he said man the devil is not scared of your good deeds Only thing he fear is Jesus' name. That's why they trying to shut it up. They trying to shut it, because it's power.
Starting point is 00:26:11 It's power just in that man name. If Siri got this much power, and I could say, a Siri, what's Martin Luther King birthday? And she answered, imagine how much more power with Jesus. God, I've seen it. And I've used it. I used, he taught me, he taught me,
Starting point is 00:26:24 called, because some of this stuff, he be like, you know what I'm saying? Some of this stuff, oh, we got to get it wrong. Siri. Siri. Siri. See, yeah, he tried it. He just tried it.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Yeah. He's like, we're gonna stop this right now. But Jesus reacts fast in the Siri man. And it just, it just got people can't see. I know for me, bro. It didn't help. I met Chris Pratt when I was going to. When John Gray had his church here in Atlanta,
Starting point is 00:26:52 and he was filming something, and he came to the back and told us a story about when he was running one day, here in Atlanta, through the woods. And just really heavy. It was a heavy day for him, and I just need to go for a run. So he goes for a run and he sees his random bench in the woods. And he was like, why is this bench there?
Starting point is 00:27:10 And something just says sit down. And as he sat down, he looked down. And he knows like a stone on the ground. And he moved the leaves. And it said, be still and know that I'm God. And he was like, wow. Like God found me as I'm running. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to clear my mind and set me down. And I saw that and I was like, wow, like it's funny. Like God found me as I'm running, you know what I'm saying? Trying to clear my mind and set me down and I saw that.
Starting point is 00:27:28 And I was like, that's powerful. So I just, I love, I appreciate artists like Chris, like you. And myself who like don't, who aren't afraid to talk about. You can see it on you though. Yeah. You can see it on you like, well, I don't know. When I first met you, I was like, because you know what I'm saying, you don't see me, I'm like man, ain't no way this person look this, nobody don't know when I first met you, I was like, because you know what I'm seeing, you don't see me, I'm like, man, ain't no way this person to look this,
Starting point is 00:27:46 nobody's gonna see this, it's just like this, you got a walkin' filter. A walkin' filter. It's like, it's like this glow, man. Man, thank you. Like, for real though. I just had Eve on here and she was like, it was you, it was your light, and I was just like,
Starting point is 00:28:02 we were in a ball and crying. But, there's a everyday I wake up now. Your ear even look angelic. I'm so glad I probably look so healthy. Where you are, Eve? You see, you have a bad taste to it. I'm so happy to be here. I think that's perfectly good.
Starting point is 00:28:22 God, they're brand new, like. Yeah, I hear I hear you're surgery. No, you're surgery. Yeah, that's the new thing. You're surgery. I'm not. That's the new thing. You're surgery.
Starting point is 00:28:33 I am not. That's the new thing. I'm not. That's the new thing. I'm not. Definitely is. I want people to see that light. My prayer every morning when I wake up is God.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Like, when I walk out of these doors, I want people to see you through me and just let your light shine through me. So that's what I ask God for every day. Is that people see him through me, so that's really good. I know that also in living in your truth, as you are sending your career, a lot of me in struggle with leaving the street, tough guy persona behind and feel like they still are kind of tapped into the hood just to keep their credibility. Is that something you struggle with at all?
Starting point is 00:29:11 No, because see, I know women for real. See, most men do that because they think women, they perceive through hip hop, they think women like, but they don't know what women like, or sometimes women don't know what they like. Everybody like, everybody like one thing, but everybody love another. And I learned, man, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:32 people love you for the U to be you. So wherever you are, and they know about it, we weren't born, thousand killers. That's true. You know what I'm saying? Even when I was in street, I ain't never have no gun. I got me some money, and you know, I love a pretty woman, for I'm playing period Even when I was in street, I ain't never had no gun. I got me some money and I love a pretty woman
Starting point is 00:29:46 for my playing period. But I ain't struggling with that hard stuff, because I know me and I know I fight for real life. So I ain't even walking around all day proving it. But everybody from touch me. But I get touched back so, no, man, that street life was something that I was born in. If I was born another way, I would have did it another way.
Starting point is 00:30:06 But that ain't nothing I was wanting to even glorify. That's why I don't even talk about it like that. They had to make me write that book. Wow. I didn't even want to talk about it. You're not talking about it. I was like, man, I don't made it all. And that stuff just happened.
Starting point is 00:30:18 A lot of that stuff in that book. Wow. We wrote that book 2021. I just got a street, I said, I was 16, but they got lawyers involved. And I said, you sure? I was recording them on the phone with everything. But I was on the phone with them. I was messing with cool.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Whatever I'm not, I can't get in trouble. But no, that tough guy persona, if guys knew what women, they really paid attention to women. They'll learn how to be, but they think women, because women go through a stage where they think that's what they want. You are so right. I went through that. I love my mom always say you like them really nice and sweet but rough on the edges.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I wanted a little, I need something like a little,. Then when y'all leaving for the Godhead, they're like, you know, but you gotta be a mixture. Solomon said in the Bible, he can't be too holy. He can't be too wicked. Now I tell people, I said, man, he say, stay somewhere in the middle. I say, so I ain't Kurt Franklin, but ain't a little booze either.
Starting point is 00:31:19 So I'm like Russell Wilson in future, Mr. Giff. That's a good balance. We gonna sleep in peace and all that, but I'm telling you, in future, Mr. Gueth. It's a good balance. We're going to sleep in peace and all that, but I'm telling you, I have a father tonight, he's a... Yeah. I love it, I love it. You also talked about don't get mad, get money, get money, ignore people who want to tear you down and provide the ones who love you.
Starting point is 00:31:43 How have you navigated changing your friendships as you've succeeded when it comes with like? Yeah, somebody ain't really trying to get no money. We better be talking about something. Is that friends' relationship? Like, what's your significant with your woman, too? Well, what way have you gotten on woman? I know, but like, if you had one, like,
Starting point is 00:32:03 what was she needed to be getting money to or getting money to? No, I don't got no one. I know, but like, if you had one, like, what was she need to be getting money to or getting money? No, I don't know. Really, she just need to be, yeah, she need to be getting real money. And that's taking care of herself, drinking water. You know, because that's the main step. Before we do anything, we got to drink water, okay? If you got a billion dollars, and you're in there track efficient, they don't go together.
Starting point is 00:32:23 So we got to drink this water. I'm done. Okay. So I really just want a woman, when I say I want her to love herself, that's the main thing, man. Put that energy into her because you can't love somebody more than you love yourself.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Indeed practice the same thing where you love her. Yeah, I love me, so when I give mine off, I ain't open a relationship with a woman, wasn't happy. She always happy. Because I'm a love me, so when I give my all, I ain't no been a relationship with a woman wasn't happy. She always had it. Because I'm a love me so wherever I give all. Yeah, you're not born for music. It's like production.
Starting point is 00:32:51 The better this post going to be, it's going to be the better of the pre-production. Absolutely. So if I put my time in this pre-production by the time this piece come out, I ain't going to have to say nothing about it, you're going to feel it. You're going to feel, ooh, that the direct the mate, that person turn their head and do this? Did they take the time and do a whole other scene? Because it was the energy they put in the pre-produced. So I put that in me every day behind closed doors.
Starting point is 00:33:19 So when I give it out, they gonna feel it. That's good. Have you had any old friends call you like a sellout or cheat you definitely as a result to your success or had to let people go? Because I know for me, I went through recently what I call a purging season where like I saw that I was ascending and certain people weren't happy
Starting point is 00:33:37 for me or supportive and I'm like, okay, what I'm saying? Where is this really going? Have there been people where it's like, oh, you didn't change or? Yeah, for sure. No people. How do you deal with it? I don't really kill. I don't kill about that, but I can't even try to care.
Starting point is 00:33:52 That's always been one of my flaws in my strengths, my social sense. I never cared for it, nobody else. I just don't care. Yeah. I mean, I think that's how I'm able to be creative. Yeah. Cause I don't even care what my fans think.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Wow. About my content. You just, that's good. Because you're doing it for, like, this is what you enjoy doing. This will come. This will come. I don't care what the industry say. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:14 I just don't care. Because I don't know if he loved me, man, even, I ain't even get you the power. Control my life. Because sometimes I double. He know he can't get you. But long as he get a moment out of you so like the devil be like yeah I don't say that I got 65 years out of you know like it's like that guy told my life
Starting point is 00:34:34 when they were about to shoot the guy like the state of Mississippi got for this years out of you know so I don't care I don't give people that power man well you remind me of Tyler when you say that. Yeah. Cause that's how I feel like that's why he is so successful. He does not listen to any of the names. No, Tyler, but and real people, like great people, recognize great people. I mean, I know Matti-LaPere has on DVD. I mean, it was a DVD.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Was it a DVD or a tape? I know it was a DVD. I remember going to my friends. It was like, man, this is my dear person, it's so funny. I slid it in, I was saying, when y'all put it in the lab. So they watching it, but this one I know sometimes the world is stuck on trends. He wasn't trained yet to them.
Starting point is 00:35:16 They watching it and they watching, they don't see what I see. I want stuff they talk about. I'm like, man, this funny. Seven weeks later, the buzz going around by Tyler Perry, they were watching them when they, they bust out leather. I say, man, y'all so fake. Wow. Y'all not even controlling y'all on the motions.
Starting point is 00:35:30 My control, literally the media has not. The world got you. Yes. And the world is saying, so you don't even know what's good. Yeah. Like, when I look at you, I'm like, man, like I told you that, I said, a hit girl, a beautiful woman.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Oh, no. You know what I'm saying? But they might got you ranked but they probably like this person got moved from I'm like no and so I never cared so I could see. I just never cared so I held up where people don't like me or mad about something I move up. They wasting their time cuz. Yeah that's good and you'll go far with that too because a lot of times I know as a woman in the industry, I have got caught up in that, like what people think and how I'm perceived.
Starting point is 00:36:11 And I feel like I'm in the most free space of my life where I don't care anymore. And I'm allowing people to just see crystal. You know, I used to try to hide certain things or I always say, I'm giving so much of my life through acting. I just want to have everything else be private but like nobody knows why I'm not sharing the blessings I'm not like allowing people to see all that God. You gotta let me see you girl.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Yeah. You gotta let me see you guys. You go out around with a filter. You gotta a natural human organic filter. You gotta let me see you. Yeah. You as they need to see that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:45 I'm working on it. I don't know where his help me. You can't remember Jesus, a homeboy, Peter, and told them. They said, man, you got to go ahead and show people who you are. Because the world ain't going to know you. Yeah. Until you had to pull up, you put up sideways on that donkey. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Yeah. He had to show us Jesus. See, people thought Jesus, that's why I named my brand Jesus, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He had the sure of Jesus. See, people thought Jesus, that's why I named my brand Jesus, Papa, because people think Jesus is born. So the world I made it seem like Jesus, all people are going to cry out to preaching just that ain't Jesus. That's people using his name, but instead of letting him use them.
Starting point is 00:37:21 And Jesus is the coolest, the flies. Now I tell my son, that's why I fight with the world and my sons because you know, there's rappers, there's a lot of people out there. If my son didn't see that women like me the way they like me, that's why I let them see how women are around me, because I'm letting them know you can still be this. This who they gonna love, now they gonna like him for a moment. But Jesus was the coolest. His name still buzzes. Ain't no brand.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Nike and nobody is outlastin' Jesus. And we ain't even seen him. Isn't that? Wow. We ain't even had no pictures. Now that man, he's real good. He was come on. Cause we ain't seen none.
Starting point is 00:38:02 And this joke is brand is going strong. I love it. So, you got, when people believe in Jesus, in church, you'll be like, we gonna sit back and we gonna wait no, man. Jesus and that, because nobody don't wanna follow that big suit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Isn't that hat? You've got to, yeah. Put that drip on it. Yeah, put that drip on it. That's right. Because when you step out there, you're gonna help you step out there. Could God not cut? Yeah.. Yes, I am. Because when you step out there, you're gonna help, you step out there. Good God, now, good.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Yeah. And the God, I'm out here walking on this water. You better help me, good God. If I fall off, you know what I'm saying now. I did it as a pandemic, Lord. And I miss you in your name. And I'm on social media. So, I'm just saying, you know, I'm right, which regardless, but for your name.
Starting point is 00:38:44 And what? You're welcome to join. You know why you're walking on the water? And it watered in my knees with. You're welcome. You're welcome to join. You're welcome to join. You're welcome to join.
Starting point is 00:38:57 You're welcome to join. You're welcome to join. You're welcome to join. You're welcome to join. You're welcome to join. You're welcome to join. You're welcome to join. You're welcome to join. You're welcome to join. You're welcome to join. You're welcome to join. You're welcome to join. He works with me. Hey, get out of here now.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Oh my gosh, I can't reach you. That is real. And they brought this straight. I'm like, oh, what? I already trust the industry. The first time hitting me when it shut down. So then I'm a confident build up. I got to some projects and say, God,
Starting point is 00:39:19 they didn't hit again. I said, oh, hell no. That's what I'm doing. They never get me again, believe was overheld. Right. That's what it is. They would never get me again, I believe. Maybe I'd be here. I think we have projects coming out. Right. I was just stopping it.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Yes. You should have called me a year ago. I want to play in my life accordingly. Right. Let me know. Don't stop nothing like this. Right. Ain't no PPP coming?
Starting point is 00:39:44 No. I'm standing over here. I don't want to hear my agent. They can't get me confident. No more. There's nothing. And tell them I'm sitting with the chick. Hello. I know that's right.
Starting point is 00:39:56 No, man. Oh my goodness. I'm sure you, like that probably helps you build your own table as Tyler says. Like I'm not going to depend on anybody. Boy, I don't trust. No, that's what maybe do to depend on them, I'll force to, but not even doing this.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Cause, you know, I got Nisper's special coming out. And they was like, and this I know God, where they say the only thing you allow to promote is coming special. So, you know, my Nisper's specials come out and say, tell me, that was God. Even this was saved by that. But you know what I learned, No, people got to stop praying.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Stop praying. Because I said, I said, I told my brothers, I realized we were here by the praying. And one person blitzing could be another person to rise. Because I'm like, I can't say thank you God, that he should be the end of the show down for me. Because I'm like, but what about all the other people? So now I realize, that's why I'm like, I can't say thank you God. He said the industry died from the heat. Because I'm like, but what about all the other people? So now I realize that's why I'm gonna pray.
Starting point is 00:40:49 That's why I'm the thing I ask God, let God's will be done. Amen. Yes. Because we pray for storms. I work for this pile company one time. We used to pray for storms. When storm coming, will we hope he hit?
Starting point is 00:41:01 Because we get some overtime. And when they hit, we say thank you God for the overtime. But it's, it's, so many people don't got to hurt. So without learning that, let God's, that's the only prayer everybody should be praying. That's it, I, me, I say that too. God used to be like, well, please do this, Lord, I want this and Lord God.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Please change this person. Please help me with this. And it was like this long list of things that I'll be praying about. And then I read this scripture where it says, don't go in your closet, babbling. Just say, the Lord's Prayer, that will be done. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:41:30 And literally when I took that on, I realized that the things I was praying for were one, two small. And what God had for me and what He was showing for me that He had was way bigger than I even imagined. That's real. So that's how I feel here. You preach in my girl. Like, you don't know's how I feel. I think you preach in my girl.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Like, you don't know what you just said. You just said something normal. Most of the people say something big. They think you're big when they're big. You just said something girl, because that is so true. That's so cool. We don't know where to ask for,
Starting point is 00:41:58 because we're a piece of sand to a thousand beaches of God. Yes. My big mom was trying to give me a child support. They can't get me, because they don't know how to ask one of them. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH And that's what people don't realize. They need that God will, just trust His will. Because what we cause, cause the dangerous thing, whatever you pray for, you eventually gonna get it.
Starting point is 00:42:31 That's why O'Grium, the Lord, God are from Selma. Yes. Cause she killed Agrabe. And God, He's a father of all things. You can ask me, I'm gonna open that door for you. You gonna say thank you, but He already know. Knowledge, know right now.
Starting point is 00:42:44 We'll know and tie. Yes. There's only one prayer. God will be double. He can't stand a hill, baby cry. He gonna give you that pacify. And sometimes in life very very seldom you have somebody in your life who, who, who, or grandparents or something who's stopping you from getting your blessing to
Starting point is 00:43:04 really. a grandparent or something who's stopping you from getting your blessing too early. Because I would have been this popular at 22. I would have all kind of women. God knew. Yeah. It's time. It was not, yeah. Because now I'm too sleepy.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Mm-hmm. Yeah. I ain't got the energy. I'm like, well, I'm tired. Right. But, no, that's what it is, man. It's God's will, man, to be done. And that's what people got the,
Starting point is 00:43:29 and when you live like that, you really see, man, it's enough for everybody. It is. Everybody's supposed to be, it's too many rich people out here for everybody not to be feeling it. Somebody being greedy. God, I don't make, I give away by give to my family,
Starting point is 00:43:48 my business, you know what I'm saying? About 400 months. But that 400 months touched so many people. 400, what? Thousands. But when I say, it touched. We need to be in the family. It touched so many people. but it's people that make
Starting point is 00:44:07 and triple what I'm making. I'm like that aren't giving yeah. That's why because people don't believe in God's will. Everybody's not there is online. They teach you how to keep your money for the future. That's all they're trying to do. I'm going to be dead. What you talking about?
Starting point is 00:44:22 Somebody's R.A. man is I ain't done that. I'm trying to say, hey are you talking about? Somebody's R.A. man, I ain't done that. I'm trying to, hey. Yeah. So, but what it is, that's people who told you man, money is gonna be the love of money. Yeah. You know, money is a low frequency. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Mm-hmm. Well, well, well, well, that's why I told a guy one time, I take out my baby mom, okay, well, man, he's like, man, you simple, no, you simple because you give him no energy My energy reserved. Oh, I give away federal reserve. They have no You better start you a little preach over your to that
Starting point is 00:44:57 I'm preachers. I ain't trying to preach I'm giving away feather reserve, not my energy. But guys, they're trying to put the air by trying to prepare their own wheel. They're setting their own wheel, look. But we ain't good. And the devil, the devil, people don't know the devil don't come in your light to hormone purpose. He tries to be God.
Starting point is 00:45:21 He's so bad at blessing. Because this, how the energy turned out, this ain't God now. Because even if people make it through the stress of what Am I going to make it through? See, they would let God handle it. It would be different. Because what happens in the industry, man, somebody projects. You know what I'm saying? Somebody projects what happens.
Starting point is 00:45:43 It's a lot of selfish people. And they just, in the studios and the people, if you know this project ain't gonna work in your heart, people are high people, just cause they like them. And you plan with other people money. You plan with other people money now. If this don't come back, I, we gotta stop in the minute cause I'm not about to keep losing.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Exactly. But it's people there to be like, put this person's project because you put your own wheel together because this gonna benefit you. But not in order. That wheel keeps turning, everybody going eat. You know? So.
Starting point is 00:46:17 That's good. You talked about giving. And one thing that Andy Norman, who works at this, he's one of the vice presidents at Tyler Perry Studios. He leaves at work and goes to Bible study every week. And when I was still costumeing, before I ever became a costume designer, even started styling Tyler, he called me one day.
Starting point is 00:46:36 He said, I don't know why I got put on my heart during Bible study, but he told me to tell you this. And I was like, what do you tell you? He told me to tell you that your living is in your giving. And I was like, OK, he's like, just remember that. And I was like, what do you tell you? He's told me to tell you that your living is in your giving. And I was like, okay, he's like just remember that. And I was like, okay, I got it. So I've always been like a tire there. Like I always make sure I give God his and help people as I can. But as I began to sin and like, gain wealth, I was like, wow, like I knew exactly. He didn't even, he's like, Chris, I had no idea
Starting point is 00:47:02 why God put that, but he knew where you were going, and he knew where he was taking you, and he didn't want you to forget that. So I wanna tell you that as well, your living isn't you giving in you doing the right thing. I appreciate it, man. I ain't got no woman in my life to tell me I'm doing the right thing, that great thing. That crazy.
Starting point is 00:47:17 That crazy, that crazy, but. Oh my goodness, let's talk about women since we own the subject. You were our father of 10. How old did you end up with so many kids? I ain't pull up. Were these like relationships or were these just, were they one or two? My first baby mom was my high school sweetheart. So we was together for eighth grade all the way to like a year.
Starting point is 00:47:52 So we had three kids. OK, OK. Nah. I cheated on her one time. Got a girl pregnant. Just all through high school. My three kids in between hurt was women I dealt with one time. And because God did me like that because you know better.
Starting point is 00:48:11 You know better. 20 years I got pregnant man. I was like, oh my God. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, I'm a sick children. I don't know, you know what I'm saying? And then I'm, and then my ass. My ass, my ass wife, me and her, me and her had three.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Okay, I'm saying so. Are you married? Okay, how long you been? I'm for seven months. No. It's the way he said it. No, it was here. You're changed.
Starting point is 00:48:38 But I was with her for 10 years. What? Wait, wait, wait. Together with her for 10 years. Yep. Mary. Yep. Mary for seven months to a year, roughly.
Starting point is 00:48:53 It was a year. Okay, a year. Yeah, for sure. What happened? Was it just like a... No, I... Now, Mary heard because, like, first of all, we had got custody of one of my daughters. I had to go to court for her.
Starting point is 00:49:03 So, they had just started doing the tour and thing. I'm like, man, I've been with this girl. Man, I sold dope custody of one of my daughters. I had to go to court for her. So they had just started doing the touring thing. I'm like, man, I been with this girl. And I sold dope out her projects, man. I'm like, man, I got, I'm from the Marriott brother of his life, cause I ain't studying he women, I'm gonna get it money. I got it interesting. I tell everybody about a lot of men,
Starting point is 00:49:16 focus on he women, because they never had them. See, I did have them. So my focus, hey, yeah. So I married her, come like, man, I'm from the Do This, I'm from married her, come like man, I'm feeling a do this. I'm feeling a shame, my family life, for real. So I married her, man. And then, you know, you're laid up, I like, no.
Starting point is 00:49:34 God hated to leave her behind. I ain't gonna leave her up my first day, mom, you know what I'm saying? But I found a way I could bring him up financially and be there for them. But I was at a hard decision. Yeah, a hard decision because you're like, you know, you leaving the women, we grew up together. So, like, I'm finna take all. But y'all ain't with it.
Starting point is 00:49:54 They wouldn't with it. Nah, they just don't. I'm different lane, man. I started growing fast. Like, I started wearing about my diet. I started, because, you know, I picked up that Bible while me was in the project. I was like, man, I picked her that Bible while me helping the project. I was like, man, I told her, you should've picked her up with it.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Because she asked me one day, she said, what you read? You ain't gonna share what you read, I said, man, you got to read the women, but I was growing so fast once I picked her that Bible, I was like growing a lot of stuff. So by the time I'm like, hey, man, I'm a changed person. That's so powerful. Because you can't scream his name too long without changing your character. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:29 And all. I, my character was changing. And I was like, damn, they can't. They had first chance. They had first chance. They had these. Now, dude, they, do they have, have they expressed any regret? Everyone I've been with regret. they ain't gonna find a way.
Starting point is 00:50:45 You ain't gonna find a way. You ain't gonna find a way that... What does it want to get when she get a way? Your grandma gonna be inside the end of the world. See, it's part of finding that, because your grandma could be inside but your friend like me. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:57 But the world could be inside it, but your grandma like, he ain't the one for you, right? I got the one on the team in the streets. So they gonna, you blessed and you covered, but at the same time, you pleased. Because we in the flesh, the spirit run the life, but the flesh got to be pleased.
Starting point is 00:51:12 So the women were, the women, yeah, they regret it. And a lot of women I've dealt with, thank you still a chance, because I'm free. Like I really, I'm not a relationship for real. But, um, now do you lead them on to make, if they think they have a chance? I only play like that. You ain't play like that, okay. I don't play, I don't play with people.
Starting point is 00:51:31 I don't play no games. No, okay, you don't play the radio. I'm direct, but no, but no, they definitely regret it. But I'm petty like that. I made sure it was going to be good. I work hard to make people regret. Yeah. You just have better than time.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Oh my gosh. I'm competitive. So I work on myself to be. Mm-hmm. Yeah. To grow. Mm-hmm. Like I put in my book, man, stay up.
Starting point is 00:51:57 That's the only way a woman gonna really ever want you and keep loving you. Mm-hmm. You have to stay up. Yeah. That's real. That's real. So about your children, I see you. You gotta stay up. Yeah, that's real, that's real. So about your children, I see you're very active in all your children's lives. How do you manage and like,
Starting point is 00:52:13 between business and, cause you're always, I feel like you're always working and creating something. How do you like manage, even to be here today, how do you manage time for your children and your business? Well, I had to, I had to retire a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Like my dad and he, I retire him. So he'd take my son to basketball ball practice. He handled them. Like, he took the kid. The girls wanting to go to Beyonce concert. He put him in the sprunner, took him in the baby mommas. And so basically, I had to kind of like build a village around my kid. And they all helped me.
Starting point is 00:52:42 And I just make my, God made a way with my schedule. I could throw my career so much like I shut something down. Like there's something I shut the whole, something that I told the man, where? And I ain't even know the strike would come. Right. Like that. I knew the right strike, but I'm like, this would be open.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But then the abstract came. I was like, oh, yeah. Yeah, this is different. So I just, I put them first and I feel like whatever you put, first God will make a way for you to, for is different. So I just, I put them first, and I feel like whatever you put first, God, make a way for you to, for the balance, if you put the right thing for you. I love that.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Speaking of parenthood, you recently did a post about, we talked about forgiving parents. What did you actually forgive your dad for? Like, he wasn't there, you know, the times of need, and he had it. He was in the street hustling and had money, but he won't really bless my mama unless they was on good terms.
Starting point is 00:53:29 And so it was on the conditions. And on condition. On condition of love, yeah, that's different here. So I went through things that I didn't have to go through if he would just brought up some money right now. So I'm like, he wasn't there when he could have been. Right. And so I forgive him for that though. Did that help you see what he did and where he went wrong
Starting point is 00:53:52 be the father that you are today? Yeah. Though I take him up every moments because at the end of the day that's a hard job. And I learned that it set me free from me trying to control their life. The kids they do, even though they do got a man, I still gotta pay them bills. Yes. I can't let the kids sit outside, cause your mama, whatever your mama doing, whoever they talking to, they gotta do it. The decision we made together had a child.
Starting point is 00:54:14 So it helped me understand that, cause I know if that household ain't right. Mm-hmm. It's not good for the kids for sure. Yeah. Do your kids live with you, or do they live out with their, well my son lived with me, taking my little knee, but all the kids for sure. Yeah. Do your kids live with you or they live all with their, um, well my son lived with me, Taymour lived with me, but all the rest of them,
Starting point is 00:54:28 they all got rooms and they'll be there. They'd be with their mom. But they got a room there. And their mom would stay five or 10 minutes away, but it really just be near Taymour. Okay. Come on, other sons just went to college. Got you.
Starting point is 00:54:39 What were the steps that led you to saying, I need to forgive my dad? Man, I just don't like a waste time. I ain't holding nothing in. Good, that was yesterday. Was, how was that conversation? Like was it hard? Cause I know sometimes parents,
Starting point is 00:54:55 our generation is really big on like mental health and not wasting time and we know the importance of certain things where our parents may kind of be stuck in their ways. Is your dad one of people are kind of like seconds ways with it hard to even get through to him? Yeah it was hard to get through to him but the thing was when you believe in yourself and you look at yourself a lot you see that they were the thing so it's a chain that we know we're coming out of slavery right now. Yeah you feel them saying so what we expect our parents to do?
Starting point is 00:55:27 Yeah. It's be real. You, you're right. I, I say the same thing. I was telling my dad this recently. I said, you know, I think about the generational curses and how like our parents just repeat what they say. And you think about our grandparents who were the children of slaves, you know, like, or you're not as old as I am,
Starting point is 00:55:47 but. I'm older than you in spirit. If you are, you are, you literally are, yeah. I will give you that, you know, so, yeah. But our parents, like, it's like, we're not that far, like we just getting out of that, you know? And we're the ones that are starting to break the cycles of those patterns.
Starting point is 00:56:06 That's so true. I literally just talked to my dad about that. So we just getting out of slavery. So we respect not our parents. We be like, mama didn't do this, mama didn't listen to him, man. My dad, my mom, my dad, they ain't taking my helps and throwing it to them, got their women and having them babies. I could have made that decision, I do that.
Starting point is 00:56:24 So when you believe in yourself, I got two kids that believe in themselves, and they never reflect, they promise on their parents. Sometimes some of my kids, I get mad, come and they go through stuff, they make their mama feel like, I just feel like, I'm like, what's my two kids that believe in themselves?
Starting point is 00:56:40 They internalize and they work on something. Wow. They don't take it and throw it on the pairs. And I was always that child. A deep down man kid was like, mm-hmm. People would be like, I mean, one time being bad in school, my mom and them about to beat me. They're like, what's been your process?
Starting point is 00:56:54 My Uncle Chuck, come on, Uncle Chuck, that guy, man. Yeah, that guy to you, my one student, that man. But I do this something deep, see if for them to feel safe for me. I was like, my Uncle Chuck, they were like, she was like, what's wrong with her? She was like, I know her. I think she had a bill out there,
Starting point is 00:57:12 they built and put it on. Yeah. She said, what about, he become a see me at night? She said, what do you say, I like her. She said, what did he say? I was like, oh, shh. He. He. He. So I know how kids and people are, man.
Starting point is 00:57:31 They be other stuff, though. I was like, if you come and heal, and you sell somebody, they would be like, it's because you said it is no. It's whatever happened before that. They happen to happen to happen. You just happen to be the one that, they get over the gut during talk.
Starting point is 00:57:44 So people know deep down, but people be having all that. I like, man, people just ain't real. So I don't deal with a lot of that stuff. Come in, if people don't want to hear the real, they only talk. I mean, people be going through other stuff. And most time, it's relationships. Somebody that isn't going through something like,
Starting point is 00:58:00 bruh, nobody's gonna be able to have the power and your life that texts you on the phone. It changed your day. But you to call somebody to talk an hour about that. That means that we're not letting God be in the count of nothing about energy. Because we let God be the count of our energy. He gonna know how much to put in that and then when they do happen, they ain't gonna affect you at all. So my mom and dad are life.
Starting point is 00:58:21 I wasn't that tired into them. Because the reason why everybody's heart was hurt, my other siblings, because you had too much faith in your mom and your daddy. There's only God, and as a child, we have time to learn that. But do it all, it's kids, like do we know that? Oh no, my family's gone, they was drinking the smoke,
Starting point is 00:58:39 so I guess I was one of the kids grew up that. Yeah. But they have an option. They have an option. My kids see me read that Bible, they friend see me read it. So somehow in our life. Yeah. You're giving them a different example though.
Starting point is 00:58:51 God, we don't see this. Oh no. Like you say, I can't say that because my sister's, I think Trump children judge their parents. Because my whole family did drugs. And my aunt T Wanda, she like she my cousin cousin but she my home, my mom was like this friend and she always told us never try weed because it was a gateway drug. But my sister, my family always judged them.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Like y'all just a bunch of weed get different but what happened is they told us never try alcohol weed. They tried it so now they fight and not be alcohol. So instead of calling yourself alcohol the longer they keep them some money and have a party we just have to get no you hit you too you judge until you were functioned alcoholic but I didn't judge them so I was like that that's gonna get me if I get in that that's gonna get me so I stay out of it I'm not wanting them people who take on better than something but when you don't judge your parents, I knew I said, man, that cocaine can get me too.
Starting point is 00:59:49 If I ever try cocaine, it's gonna get me. If I ever, good, good, good, good, good, good, good. You got me. You said good. I said good. 10 kids late. Sometimes, I see how my dad had something to say. But, that mean brothers and sisters, do you have your yellow kid?
Starting point is 01:00:03 My dad had got nine, eight kids. My mom had three, so I was the oldest on my daddy side. And the youngest on my mom's side got two older sisters. I just ain't never, my mom, I come on my mom with doing cocaine one day. And I say, my mom, so the next morning I said, why you put that white stuff up of your nose? I was so real as a child. The one thing I appreciate about this woman, she didn't give me, do you see that?
Starting point is 01:00:26 You mean this and that? This and that? I tell everybody, man, my mom was proud. It allowed me to be real. And she said, son, I just like the way it made me feel. My sister-in-law would have been like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, man, you know, when you look at life,
Starting point is 01:00:44 when you be still and look at life for what it really is, you could be real and make real judgments. Like, man, come on, man. So, you know, it just, you look at life for what it really is and stuff for how you want to look. That's real.
Starting point is 01:00:58 That's real. You recently said, on our different Beasts Monday Megan's podcast, not for sure podcast, you said that she believed that the only way to properly love a woman is to give her what God was for her. Give her what God wanted. Can you, that really mean to her like, okay, we've never really heard a man say that. The way you wrote that down, can you break that down for me? You got to give her what God wanted and what that is.
Starting point is 01:01:20 She gonna complain the whole time. My ex wife, she could play in the whole time and she's happier now as a person. Cause I never comply to the world. When I was in the street selling dope, she wanted us to be the lit couple. But I knew that one good for her. It's certain things she wanted. But now she's a great mother and everything.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Like, because in the end, that's what they gonna look. The one who kept it real with them. Me mean she wants to be lit, what does that mean? Like certain things I wasn't doing in the street. We ain't taking no trips, I'm on the dope, but in post no pictures I'm living the wrong life. God gonna be like oh so you trying to get out but you out here showing that. So it's just like that would have made her so happy.
Starting point is 01:02:06 If I would have took on one trip, I would have said in drools. That would have made her so happy. There was a lot of things to do with it. She wouldn't take, what if you just took her on 7 days in taking pictures? I'm selling drugs. So that ain't fair. If I'm telling God I want to get out, that's throwing in the God face. If I was legit, okay now, I'm taking trips.
Starting point is 01:02:24 But it was a lot of things that would have made her happy in the moment, but she would have been with her friends at right now. You know what I'm saying? So a woman, it's like a child. You know what I'm saying? We got to give people, it ain't even a woman, just people.
Starting point is 01:02:36 But a woman, if you give her, what God wants for her, her soul, don't love you, even with her flesh mad at you. See what happens is a lot of women flesh like a man, but they soul don't love you, even when her flesh mad at you. See, what happens is a lot of women flesh like a man, but they soul ain't feeling it. So that's why depression comes and ziity. But what happens is when your soul, when you talk to her soul instead of her flesh,
Starting point is 01:02:57 her flesh gonna be mad, but it's even gonna comply. It's time, it's just gonna complain in the daytime. And eventually when that flesh gets up, it's gonna be thank you, because in go playing in the daytime. Yeah. And eventually, when that flesh catch up, it's gonna be thanking you because in the end, she's gonna glow. Yeah. Her better days are in front of her, instead of behind her.
Starting point is 01:03:11 And a woman, when you give a woman that, and she give you her prayers. The name of my neffly specials of woman prayers, I'm up right now because even when the women I dealt with, deal with other men, they prayers that would meet. Because every woman has a spiritual vagina. And that spiritual vagina is a virgin. That's why Mary is still a virgin because they think this is a vagina. That could man be so happy about it.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Yeah, I got that. The reason why it's so accessible because obviously it's not, it's so low in frequency. That spiritual vagina and God is only going to let a man, a God touched that someone can die a virgin. But if you ever find a man who touched that spiritual vagina, you're like going to be changed forever. I've never heard this in my life.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Yeah, and that spirit gonna be, so now your spirit finally get to feel those moments. That's different. Open her legs. Because she got her legs closed. She don't give a damn. You can do what you want to with yours. That's a while you're giving to me.
Starting point is 01:04:18 You try to be like, you try to trick your spiritual. It was good. We connected for real. Like, girl, oh my god, like, just the one. And your spirit was like, I don't get what you talk about, then by the way, I'm gonna sell months later, it just, it didn't work. It didn't work.
Starting point is 01:04:33 It didn't work. It didn't work, it didn't work. It didn't work. It didn't work. He could plow at you. He did everything he can to get to that part of you. And that spirit of person, like, you know what God, think about the way I remember,
Starting point is 01:04:49 I could easily introduce women. Yeah. Now, but I could touch his head and see him more fun, but I'm like, no, man, this is what they need. And I don't care. Yes. Because I know this works. Now what does a man of God determine
Starting point is 01:05:04 what God wants for her? Like how do you know, like this, I know what,. Now what does a man of God determine what God wants for her? Like how do you know like this, I know what, how do you know? He won't hold for fear, man. And he won't hold to get back on that journey, because when you get for fear, you gotta think about it. Peter then was getting wilted and everything. It was so fulfilling just to talk about Jesus. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:20 You gotta think how happy was they to walk around in their descendants and speak about Jesus And they found something that was So it's like a crack it that crack so good. They don't care that they teeth there. Yeah, yeah They don't kill what you said about them. They like Just give me this 15 dollars of wash your car. Right. I'm gonna go back in this crack So man, you find that you, you activate that back in women, because she influenced the world.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Because once you see women talking about that and wanting that, like even Sierra, just going to a man that talk about God, people with women start shipping their head a little bit. I wait for that. Mm-hmm, yeah. You get them saying so, it gets them back on the journey and start feeling good, the walk.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Eat good food and live life. So once you get on that and once you get happy, now if y'all able to decide to get, the relationship is supposed to be the last thing. It's a holy matrimony. It's really your flesh and your spirit coming to agreements because they got a little with each other.
Starting point is 01:06:19 So you got to come and hold the matrimony with your selfish. Right now it's four people right here on this couch. My flesh, my spirit, your spirit. So once you become whole, then you talk to that person soul, and that soul, you want to tell her to get her flesh back in line. And now, when you finally get to that moment, that's my way now, for a woman to get to that moment
Starting point is 01:06:42 so we could be whole together. But that's what it is. And it's hard for do that because most men want to stay in good kohogs to get where they want. They're gonna say, and when they do say something triggering, it's malicious. It's the timing. They ain't really like, my baby mama. But when I told that man, I knew my intentions were for her.
Starting point is 01:07:08 When I met her, I said, oh, I'll make sure this girl's straight. Even if we don't end up together, she got something in her. I went over there, we talked, we found a tall, full of men and come on. I finally got that Gucci. I played like the cool guy. I bought some weed and everything. See, the double at like a guy, sometimes garbage, you're like, he'll double to get your attention. Cause you know that's what they like.
Starting point is 01:07:28 I bought a weed, I bought her a friend weed. Like, yeah, I'm acting like man, soon I got that koo-che and I know I put that thing up. And there's more and I was like, eight, we gotta watch these dishes and stuff now. She was like, what? Cause I switched. I act like I was the turn up guy.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Yes. And soon as I did, she started this and that girl started glowing, glowing, glowing in the whole hood, seeing it. And women around, they were trying to find ways. I seen the town change. So I learned that you get women back on the right track. God bless you. Wow.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Here take care, you could see him playing by y'all. Y'all bless you. Wow. Here, take care. You can see he ain't playing by y'all. Y'all with Preels. He do not play by this. Y'all women. Me and all of us stand at, bro. Like y'all control the world. Y'all Preels are strong.
Starting point is 01:08:14 They are. Yeah. That's why I was, a lot of women, they're, I paid them to do their job. And they ain't know me and get paid more than women It's because I know they keeping this up because they prayer. Yeah, that's good. You know, so that what it is man You've got to get that spiritual for the job That spirit of the drama ain't they ain't something alive. They don't care about no smooth talk It being here before the ancestors
Starting point is 01:08:43 See that's this thing. Get, we're gonna get tricked every time. And sometimes, you gotta drink a little alcohol to tear the spirit and shut up. So the flesh feel comfortable giving up what it's been. That's why most people, before they cross the line. They, because that's the only way that's flesh drank up. Like you talk to me too much, you making me feel too conscious.
Starting point is 01:09:01 So letting me unconscious, do something to take my mind. I also now for this for this moment. And then sometimes I still like that. I need another one. I need a shot. Yes. Yes. You know, and then I said, it hurts. You wake up in this back. See, how you feel this more? And then people try to now you fight and try to prove wrong. Like I made the right decision. You wake up in his back, see? How you feel this morning? And then people try to, now you fight and try to prove wrong, like I made the right decision.
Starting point is 01:09:28 So what people do, they end up standing with that person long-term just so they can prove to the spirit. I was good. Then after a year later, or two years, and if you bless it, it's there. Because sometimes a person will take 10 years of your life. You right, woof. And get with the spirit every time.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Come here, baby. I told you, I don't be telling you that, to stop you for having fun. But trust me, I know. I'll connect it to the one. Yeah, wow. And that's what it is. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:10:00 So, of course. This is the spirit of a vagina. Yeah. Right now, your life, your single, but are you like abstaining from sex? Are you open to sex? Because you're very spiritual. Are you feeding the flesh?
Starting point is 01:10:09 Are you like, I'm good on it. Well, right now, my flesh in that hunger, but it's still got appetite. Mm. So it's going to eat. My flesh is going to eat. It ain't even a die. I don't know the hell doing that.
Starting point is 01:10:20 But it just ain't got appetite that you said. Mm. Can you sleep, you tired? It's alright, I can't. God has said to you, I'm so busy, I literally can't. You know, my lifestyle don't bump into people. You know? No, because I'm vegan. So most people go out to eat. Vegan take your waist so much from stuff because, man, no bad women in the restaurant, they try to finger their body back out. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:10:48 So it's like, you know, I'm so disconnected. Yeah, I'm gonna, like I'm gonna always have to say it. I'm never stopping that. God have to chop it off. For I stop. You have to chop it off. Like I'm not gonna, like I'm not gonna never stop, but it's just, or getically, even if I try my hardest, eat to my appetite, my appetite, just anything to do.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Yeah. It's way, way, way less than it would be, it don't matter. Do you feel, you said something about it because you're busier now, like, you don't, I've heard men say they, like, when they're focused on things, sometimes six, because a lot of people think like, six is always on your house, my mind.
Starting point is 01:11:24 But I feel, it is most time. Until you hit your certain level now, I just don't have the appetite. Like it's like vegan. I didn't try to go vegan. He took the appetite away. And this appetite taken away from me now is scared. Because I'm like, hey, I don't fight him on that.
Starting point is 01:11:39 You're like, I want this. But no, it just don't. It just don't. it just don't, that ain't my main, that just ain't the main course. Cause I used to be, man, I was born with a lustful spirit. That's like, when I was young, like, man, God, you know, man, this is going well. I'm on it, I'm like, what is that?
Starting point is 01:11:57 You know what I'm saying? And then that lustful spirit lasted for a while, but I noticed when I started getting that word, and when I started getting out that boo, I noticed man, I ain't have the ending, I think sometimes the hormones in that food, that you have you, I don't know, like, whatever your animal spirit is, some people, it make them eat more, some people make them more angry at me, I don't know what's the good word. You know what I'm saying? So, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:12:20 Most women, and this high is going. But now, I'm just more, I'm more, I walk like, I walk like. So that ain't the main thing. I like to get to know people now. So speaking of that, as your single, how do you even approach relationships? If Wayne was supposed to see somebody,
Starting point is 01:12:38 what would you do? I'm gonna tell you straight up. If I like a person, I wanna be with you for real. I'm serious about everything, I say like, I'm already thinking about marriage. I ain't got time to be, but most time, they set up that thing I believe you. Yeah, they play, what?
Starting point is 01:12:54 Right, I be serious, I go straight at it. Can't get a time to play. Right, wow. I'm like, if I like somebody, I already know, with my mind, I write my content in my mind. I never use paper so everything is in my mind. So I look at a person and I'm like, you do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do I believe you refer, they're gonna talk to one of their friends. They're their friends of Google, they're black. You gotta check this first.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Yeah, you gotta look at this. Look at this and that. You can already see it. And then they gonna come back with that. I'm like, well, they gonna see. And when they gonna look up and be like, Damn. Yeah, I shouldn't get it.
Starting point is 01:13:39 So I'm gonna go, but I really like, I like relationship, I do like relationship, but it just got to be somebody who really trusts and believe that this is it for real. Yeah, do you feel like, kind of, you balance your family well? Do you feel like you could also balance relationship? Oh yeah, I'm a good one. This is your, okay.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Yeah, I can balance relationships. It's easier now, because you got to have an abundance of women. So relationships like... So I feel like sometimes this opposite, I feel like a lot of times when men get success, it opens the door for more women. What do you mean you don't have time for a lot of women? The door open.
Starting point is 01:14:16 They could stay in the door all they want. They even get a real energy out of me if you want somebody to take a nap. Because I'm not. No, it just ain't got time. Especially when you in the lane on me because I ain't getting checks. I ain't never got a check yet. All these checks on getting on create. Wow.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Like even this movie I got to go put together. The agency had to do this. I had to go get a producer. There's often do this movie. You know what I say? I gotta go raise the meals. I'm in a I gotta go raise EMS. I'm not in the state. I still haven't got a check. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:50 So I haven't got a time. Yeah. Every piece of my business, I never got a check. Yeah, at first check I got with that book, you know what I'm saying? And every other check I create it to come every month. So I'm in that state of mind. I stay in the hustle. And once I don't got this far with it,
Starting point is 01:15:08 I put that before everything because this my freedom. Yes. This my leverage to be able to walk into meetings and be like, no, and I knitted. If you don't try and be mean, if y'all want a black bar, me go here. Because Jesus, Jesus, turn this whole guy to the nose and y'all know him. But no, so because Jesus, Jesus, turn this whole guy to the nose and I know him.
Starting point is 01:15:27 But no, so relationship wise, man, it's easier to be in relation right now because I had a woman who really on that journey with me, bro, I ain't getting all Jesus. Absolutely, yeah. So we ain't got to talk about it all the time, but we better know that's the head, because I'm not gonna get no loan conversation
Starting point is 01:15:44 about them blinds. Like, I ain't gonna be here, I know woman talking to me but we better know this to hear it, because I'm not been getting a long conversation about them blinds. Like, I ain't gonna be here and I don't want them talking to me about all day, no two hours. I'm like, we could have talked about it. You know what I'm saying? So, I just wanna live and I wanna have fun. I'm at that state now.
Starting point is 01:15:57 I don't walk, like I said, I don't walk across the path. So, I ain't got no trauma. I wanna enjoy, let's go eat together, let's travel together. Let's make love and let's work together. Okay, but you got going on. What's the best, babe? What you think? Oh no, okay, man, I think I want to be in those conversations of prosperity and I want
Starting point is 01:16:19 to be so in love that we don't even know where in love. That we wake up, that you see this person everyday. Are you good? Man, guess what happened, man? I didn't see this, you know what I'm saying? Short conversations and, and man, I got down knee hurt. I wanna say something like,
Starting point is 01:16:36 man, I need to hurt too. I don't want it to be a act everyday. Yes. They? Mm-hmm. I feel like I'm gonna sit, actually. Ha ha ha ha ha. Ah. The director is here. They? Like I'm gonna sit, action. The director is here.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Like you know, even when people try to act like they are the same creature, people on TV. Yes, I'm not doing that to date. Even in acting world that scene. Yes, well like, hey man, I wanna wake up. Man, baby, last night, man, I slept on the sofa. Come on in with her. I know it's just, I want that organic natural and I want to be talking some of what we read.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Yeah. Make our relationship better, man. Let's figure this out. Yeah, I love it. I saw on your Instagram that you bought a G-Wagon for your future wife. What made you do that? I was making my S's, man.
Starting point is 01:17:19 Patti! Patti, why? I did this marketing because they made my specials a woman's prayer. So I'm gonna start doing things up to that point. Kind of Drake, he has like a closet of Hermann's Birking bags for his future wife. But that's her G-Wagon, I drove here. Oh you did? I don't believe it.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Guess what? I got one. Oh damn. I got it. Oh, damn it. He's not jumping here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:02 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You supposed to keep your, see women out there, you don't guys are independent. I'm talking about it. I'm telling you something, I'm telling you, I say this on stage, the other week. And when we got, they say the, the lasers women, got the baby's cousin. I'm gonna tell you why. Oh, what?
Starting point is 01:18:17 They say because ambitious women, you use all her creative juices up here. A lazy woman, you got her up. I say that while I like a woman, it's here. I laid the woman, and she was down here. I said, that's why I like a woman in schools. I like a scene. Ah! Ah!
Starting point is 01:18:31 That was too lazy to go to the school for them few years to get there. Ah! Ah! Sometimes you gotta keep your, you gotta keep your money. But you gotta keep your money. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:44 See, some women are scared to be a scammer. Y'all admit to be that. You don't wanna be spending your money, but you wanna spend your money, but you gotta keep your money. Yeah. See, some women scared to be a scammer. Y'all admit to be that, you don't wanna be spending your money, but you wanna spend your money, I wanna be in the pinnacle. No, spend your money, he'll be mad. I gave you a yupp, you showed the end, what? Y'all spend your money, can't be spending your money too much. Cause that'll cause stress, cause now you a man.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Like, you supposed to do it sometime. The soft life, we were talking about. Yeah, you don't want to do that, because you want to keep your money, because one of you got money. And she keep on money, and she feel good every day, no matter what. A woman cannot handle seeing money going out her cashm-
Starting point is 01:19:14 Ah, yeah. She turned, yeah. I tell you, most men, you can't even get a woman attention so you take care of her life. Cut a parent. She have a way of talking to you. It's this person, but it's this person.
Starting point is 01:19:29 And the back of my eyes, she's thinking about where she got the baby as much. So she's there, but she's never really there. If you go and just figure out a way, don't even tell her. Just pay it all, send a check every month, guarantee you know, and then this ain't for nothing. You got to give me nothing. But this goes $15,000 a month.
Starting point is 01:19:43 We can sell a contract for five years. And first you're like, you even trying to be like that? You're like, yeah, yeah. Then you got her teeth and so what? So what was you saying about all that stuff that you like my eyes? She don't hear all that. Yeah. But Warwick can't handle money coming out there to count.
Starting point is 01:20:02 My daughter's, bro, I get them allowance every month, I get a $2,000, my daughter every month, my little, you're giving them much, she have shades on them, when she give a check. Oh my gosh. Every month right after the 14th, she'd be depressed. I'm like, what's wrong with it? I said, it's that money.
Starting point is 01:20:17 They be broke by the other half of the month. I see they depression and I be laughing so hard, but women cannot handle money going out. It's not good for they psych. That's something when a woman see that money, they want to turn their car, I'm like, what is this? Right. Right.
Starting point is 01:20:36 And I'm not ordered, but they can't start ordering stuff. So man, I be telling women, every woman I know, I know some women in the industry, bro. I know some comedians, I know some women who don't spit their own money. And they is the press right now that I feel soft, bro. They still got money, but I'm pray for them because they tried that.
Starting point is 01:20:56 And I'm like, y'all ain't. A man built for certain thing and one built for certain thing. See, a man go down, you know, but a woman that ain't good for her men for her, even if she do bounce back, she don't allow some of her health on the way to that, John. So I'd be like, man, only, that's why I take that prince off my big mother, because even now, because they don't got no big stares, I take care of him, but I have to get him a stash, because I can see it on them, they walk different.
Starting point is 01:21:21 I was like, what the hell, I don't want to. They look dark, as soon as they money hit their account, I promise you. It's the light, they come. They speak different. They bones move different. Yeah. They weave him a glow and they connect. That's weak.
Starting point is 01:21:37 So how do we, they met. One more case, been a home one all the time. It's the print, they can't take it. So when we were talking, you said something about, you went to this woman, the girl that you went to, and you brought the weed for the friends, and then you got the coach, and the next morning you go, you know,
Starting point is 01:21:54 you got to watch some dishes. So when we talk about dishes, we all, in society, we talk about gender roles. Are there things that you feel like a woman has to do in the household and that is some things are just for a man to do? No, you know, it's different situations. You know what I'm saying? That woman working that man they be watching this, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:22:11 You got to work with each other so it ain't no set. It ain't no set life. It just that for a set kind of person. Like some women go make sure they ain't playing that. You gotta help take care of me. And cause I'ma do this. So me, I just stay the journey. I won the whole time. So if I won the whole time, at this point, we ain't got to clean up, because we'll pay. Somebody else do it.
Starting point is 01:22:36 But at that point, we couldn't play no made. Right, okay. So who gonna watch these dishes? Now I watch them. Yeah. I'm cool, I watch them. But you know, when I go to Kisha, I don't say that. I don't say that.
Starting point is 01:22:48 So it's like, in each situation. I got a Kisha else. I think in general, they know what a man got to do, what a woman got to do, man. Cause in the day when it's time to fight, when y'all fighting life together, y'all just got to look out for each other, man. If you tired, I got to do this,
Starting point is 01:23:02 or let's call somebody, let me figure this out. But, in the day, it depends on where you add in life, I thought, you know, I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman.
Starting point is 01:23:11 I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman.
Starting point is 01:23:19 I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman. I'm not going to be a woman. I ain't don't. Well, you talk to a little Conan Ray and me, and she taught me how to be a man. You ain't from the be nothing but a woman.
Starting point is 01:23:31 And I'm not going to put my hands on you, I ain't going to raise my voice, and I'm not malicious. But I am 100% man. So you can't be nothing but a woman. Yeah. Because that rovers field. But Jimmy Roving, you got to watch no dishes of man to go in there watching. I clean my house. This is Maclit. I'm a clean person.
Starting point is 01:23:46 They don't want me to know. Mm-hmm, that's right. I love it. So what is the Wayne looking for in a woman if you were to tell the ladies? Tell the ladies what kind of we're looking for. You can look at this and her, that's your, that's what this is, can't be.
Starting point is 01:24:02 Well, it'll be honest. And this is going to sound cliche. I'm looking for a woman who really believed in God for real. And not the world. Because I never had a woman cheat on me with a man, for the other I know, but I had a cheat on me with the world. So I just want a woman who really believe in God, for real, for real. That crazy fate, because if she believed in that, everything else comes from order anyway.
Starting point is 01:24:31 I don't need no woman who can clean up, even though I love it, won't clean one. Because we could pay somebody to that. I don't need no woman who makes a money, we get somebody. I don't care what it is. But if you just believe, you could come as you are, because that's gonna work in order. We gonna live in our own world and people gonna pay attention to us.
Starting point is 01:24:50 It's like why they so have, don't be picking stuff out from the world, bringing the back home, cause he told us not to eat the apple. But we still on the apple, with the apple on the back. They don't, still in the tree, picking up everything and bringing the back home.
Starting point is 01:25:08 And God said, don't bring it back. So I don't want to believe in Jesus for real. Did you know how he would just say it? We still got that iPhone with the Apple in the bag. Bring it in home. Ooh. Mm, mm, mm, we're gonna just leave it right there. Oh my gosh, I'm blown away. That was a hub-all, man. Yeah. I appreciate this open and the whole morale.
Starting point is 01:25:46 This is great, which I got going on. Thank you. And this is right on time. It is right on time. We're almost done. We're going to, we have a listener letter where people write into us and give them advice. Okay.
Starting point is 01:25:59 So I'm a read letter. It's called Positive Outcomes. And this young lady says, Hi, Chris. So I'm a 44-year-old woman who just ended a six-month relationship with a 39-year-old man who I've actually known for years. We finally decided to link up one day and had great conversations about life and past relationships. Come to find out, he made all the qualities
Starting point is 01:26:18 that I was looking for in a man, the only problem was he was broke and jobless. I stayed in it for six months and fell in love with the potential of him becoming the man that I wanted him to be. They got ugly within the six months. I knew that it was God releasing him from me. I experienced a great deal of trauma in the past three years and actually felt secure in the moment for all the wrong reasons. Although we don't talk and everything is still fresh, he still talks to my sister, who was in a relationship with one of his family members,
Starting point is 01:26:46 as if he and I never happened. I keep trying to figure out what is it about me that he's following from in, who don't meet my requirements when it comes to job, money, and faith. I work two full-time jobs, and I take care of myself and my children. I will continue to have faith that my equal is on the way. Can you please give me some advice to strengthen myself
Starting point is 01:27:07 confidence and put boundaries between my ex and I who I still love with friendship? What's that last part she said? The very very, which one? Oh, look. She said, can you please give me some advice? This one she strengthened myself. Confidence and put boundaries.
Starting point is 01:27:24 That's the answer. She got the answer right there. She's just need to work on her. You can't work on nobody else. You can't change me. You can't change the people that come to your life. The devil gonna send them. And you just got to change.
Starting point is 01:27:41 Life is life from kindergarten to a grade. People think it's from 12 grade to kindergarten. The lesson gets harder. You go from one plus one to? Nah, ain't gonna lie, cause what it is, sometimes a broke man got the best D. So it's hard to leave him alone. Yeah. Cause they gonna, they focus on that. Like the lazy woman got the best,
Starting point is 01:28:14 the broke man got the best. The lazy woman, what? I want, you come home, she just laying on that sofa for what? Ha ha ha ha ha ha. You got that bad about you, like, if you, like, what, that I'm lazy? You know how I work, but you're lazy. I'm lazy.
Starting point is 01:28:34 I don't have a balance. Well, you got that, you're like, Joe, come on, you can be everything else. Well, like, I hate to be on y'all day, but good luck. Okay, I would tell you definitely work on yourself, do some self-work, do therapy, because it sounds like you've been through some things. You said you had trauma from past relationships in the past three years.
Starting point is 01:28:57 I would work on yourself before we're hopping into a relationship. I do know that it is hard to deal with someone who is still friends with your family and still be kind of lingering, it is hard to deal with someone who is still friends with your family and still be kind of lingering. It's hard to get over somebody when they're still so close. Like, you know, it's like, dang, can you just, can I have my people, you know what I'm saying, can you just go on so that I can have my life back and not think about your constantly have to hear about what's going on with you. So I know that's hard
Starting point is 01:29:20 as well. But you can't control the fact that your sister's in a relationship with one of his family members. I would just do my best to just let your sister know, hey, I don't wanna hear anything about him. I'm trying to get over it, even though you love him, but I think what countrymen says, right, you have to start with yourself.
Starting point is 01:29:39 That's real. Yeah. Yeah. All right, so we do something called what I'm going through and what I'm growing through. Is there anything that you're going through and growing through him? Going through. Mm-hmm. In life.
Starting point is 01:29:54 So, I really... Alright, they're just great. I might be going through it, but he won't let me feel it. I don't know. That's good. So this is the show we fill in the blankets. Keep it blank, sweetie. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:30:14 From this episode, I would say keep it... creative, sweetie. Never like get complacent, always stay creative and think of new ideas and things to do. That's real. Yeah. What was you saying? I like that. I thought you can go with us.
Starting point is 01:30:35 I'm gonna go with what you see. All right, probably saying, keep it creative sweetie. Um, thank you, Wayne. No, thank you. No, I appreciate you. You have such great insight. And the way you break things down is like no one else I appreciate your funding. You had us all laugh it in here. I hope you guys enjoy this episode of
Starting point is 01:30:53 Keep it positive sweetie if you want to be featured on our positive outcomes Listen to letter write into keep it positive sweetie at gmail.com and that sweetie within i.e You can follow keep it positive sweetie on all platforms and you can follow me on all platforms at LUV, Chris Thurinay and wait until where they can find you. Oh it's country weighing with a cake. K-O-U-N-T-R-Y-W-A-A-N. That's right, all right. State team makes you guys get his book, his book is entitled, help is on the way, stay up and live your truth. It's out, get it, and remember Jesus is popping.
Starting point is 01:31:29 And in the meantime, until next time, Kee-Dee Pies is a sweetie. Love you guys. you

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