Kill James Bond! - Episode 2: From Russia With Love
Episode Date: March 3, 2021It's Sean Connery, Timothy Dalton, and Daniel Craig's favourite bond movie. It's the last movie JFK ever saw. But is it any good? Join your favourite all-trans triumvirate as we ask: Who is Bond, co...mpared with Kronsteen? Â Follow us at https://twitter.com/KillJamesBond Bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/killjamesbond
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Welcome back to Kill James Bond, and we're doing Sean Connery's favorite Bond movie,
Daniel Craig's favorite Bond movie, Timothy Dalton's favorite Bond movie,
the Bond movie that Bond movie producers always set out to make,
and the last movie that JFK saw before the deep state got him. It's from Russia with Love.
That's true. I had that written down as one of my facts.
JFK saw this movie at a private screening
in the White House on November 20th.
He was watching it on a PSP in the car.
JFK was getting cited up by Oswald
as he was watching this on his Nokia N-Gage.
Yeah, no. getting cited up by oswald as he was watching this on his nokia engage and um yeah no so this this is why jfk was killed was i guess not liking from russia with love which offended the cia so
much that they uh just decided to to have him killed major bond fans yeah also the first bond
movie was wearing a hairpiece because sean connery like uh obviously
very bald man uh but went bald in the like six months between filming dr no and filming this
and so he's just he's wearing a rug this whole time i did notice that actually because in dr
no sean connery looks like shit and in this they've obviously upped the budget a little bit. And he looks great. They've cleaned it up a little bit.
Yeah.
But we've got to talk about our favorite Bond villain in a hot minute,
Red Grant.
This was one of the best that we've ever had.
Homicidal, paranoid, superb material.
Those methods were a little crude.
His response to our training and indoctrination have been remarkable.
So we have a beautiful opening sequence this time.
Because frankly, after this one, we can just go home, right? If you turn off from Russia With Love...
Yeah, we did it! We did it! Short podcast, everybody!
If you turn off from Russia With Love at about two minutes in, we can just go home,
podcast's over, because we see Red Grant, this enormous blonde man...
He's a very, very jacked man.
Murder James Bond.
He pursues our boy through a maze in the gardens of a stately home.
And he fucking garrots him with a fiber wire.
He pulls out of the bezel of his watch and he's fucking done.
Dead.
A hundred percent.
Ladies and gentlemen, we got him.
We got him. Easy. Donezo.
James Bond killed. Thanks for coming along.
As a response to killing their
operative, Dr. No, Spectre has
decided to have James Bond
clapped. And they succeed
just like that. Instantly.
Very, very effective work.
Unfortunately,
then they pull the reveal on you. The lights
come up and they pull the fucking
perfect rubber mask
of Sean Connery off of
a totally dead-ass man.
The makers of Mission Impossible
are somewhere spitting out their
breakfast cereal like, what?
Because they apparently expect to just have the
ability to make perfect rubber doubles of people's faces and they never use that again it seems like that would come
in handy but well i'm sporting wouldn't it that's just for training yeah takes off sean connery
makeup to reveal goon underneath and the entire fucking specter training facility groans at my
shit so i am i am convinced that this guy after
the lights come up i'm convinced that this guy gets up and they all go and have a drink with
him because there's no way they just dress up a henchman in a tuxedo every time and just there's
no there's no there's no way they just have a pile of henchmen bodies all with sean connery's
rubber face i think they do i think they're grabbing people off the street. No, I think they take turns playing James Bond.
I think they're putting them into the tuxedo
and putting the rubber mask of Sean Connery on them
and just setting them loose in the maze.
And giving them a real gun.
Like, what if he'd gotten lucky
and killed their best operative?
Well, then he deserved to die.
Failure is not tolerated, Inspector.
Yeah, I've got thoughts about that.
We'll be getting to that later.
My favorite detail, right, is that after we see our boy grant kill bond the guy comes up to him and
he tells him his time like he's doing a speed run and he's like ah like five minutes 30 seconds
excellent oh but you used items so i'm afraid we're gonna take time we're gonna take points
like the implication there seems to be that they're running this same maze over
and over again, with presumably either the same or different Bonds.
And like, what if you try to have to kill James Bond but he's not in a maze?
Yeah, what if he's somewhere else?
What if the situation is in any way different from this?
Well you're done for then.
They only train Spectre agents to kill James Bond in a garden.
Why would you time him on this
anyway? Are you paying him by
the hour?
Yeah, Red Grant is actually a freelance
contractor. Spectre, that was
their first and most banal kind of evil,
is they don't have employees, they just have independent
contractors. I badly want a picture of red grant wearing a fucking deliveroo outfit with a giant box backpack
just throttling bond oh but anyway then then my notes just say tits.
Yeah, that's right, because that's our setup.
Our setup is Bond has killed Dr. No, this has made Spectre very angry,
and so Spectre has sworn revenge,
and they've been training this large blonde man to murder him. And then we get our opening sequence, which is powerfully horny this time.
Yeah. powerfully horny this time yeah yeah what if what if instead of like just having a sort of
animated credit sequence like dr no or like a full full like music video like in laser bonds
what if we just projected the names onto a belly dancer it's a good idea i mean it's nice and low
budget and it looks kind of stylish i mean i guess
i don't know that i ever needed to read the director of photography's name off of a woman's
abs before but um i have a second note here that just says ass yeah there's a lot of ass there's a
lot of tits it's a very um it's very like horny movie in general from russia it is extremely horny i mean we'll get
into it well it's about to get incredibly horny because we're about to meet the sexiest character
in all of james bond my favorite guy our boy boy our Huh? Who is Bond compared with Kronstein?
Kronstein fucking rules, man.
We see him, he's introduced playing chess at like an international chess tournament,
and he gets a message hidden under a glass of water saying, you're needed immediately
by us, Spectre.
And he just fucking pulls out the
perfect rook sacrifice he plays
uh the moves are actually
boris spasky's that he's playing
but he just instantly
ethers this guy who he'd i guess
been toying with before
now and the guy congratulates him
too it's such like it's such a cock move he's
like ah well done sir brilliant play and
he's like get out of my way bitch the fuck out people are trying to shake his hand and he walks past
them yeah he's such a dick it's it's the joke answer for how do you introduce a character and
make sure the audience knows they're smart is you have them win games in a single move
and they're like yeah cronstein yeah but like the thing is right
like you're supposed to
hate Kronstein
right but like
we don't how can you we don't because
he's actually as cool as
James Bond believes himself to be
and Kronstein always acts
like he's had about like three drinks already
three drinks deep he's got that kind of like
three drink confidence and also like slightly slurred attitude i love him kind of like hooded eyes and he's just like very
like his his deal is smart right that's his whole thing but like he he outlines this this beautiful
plan to lofeld isn't Isn't Lofeld yet?
Or don't see of him, as the case may be.
Yeah, we see the back of his head.
And his hands.
He's stroking a white cat.
We get the classic. We get the
cat. He also has a very, very
cool ring, which I have tried
to find. It's got
the Spectre logo on it. I'm trying to
find my own version. It's very, very cool. It's on his pinky finger, too, which means it's a's got it's got the specter logo on it i'm trying to find my own version it's very
very cool it's on his pinky finger too which means it's a signet ring and i want to know what's
what like wax seals he's impressing with a big fucking octopus in this secret organization that
he's whatever he wants i imagine oh that is true but like like, Blofeld gets his little speech where he outlines sort of the
ideology of Spectre,
and he uses, as a pedagogical
tool to demonstrate this,
Siamese fighting
fish.
He's got a tank full
of fish, and they fucking
hate each other.
And those fish, like, they're real
fish, they're really killing each other. They didn't get, like, CG fish in there, these weren't models, they those fish, like, they're real fish. They're really killing each other.
They didn't get, like, CG fish in there.
These weren't models. They just had, like,
actual fish ripping each other up in this
fucking tank.
And Blofeld says that
they're brave
but on the whole stupid,
which is a very funny thing to say about a fish.
Fucking idiots.
But occasionally, occasionally a very funny thing to say about a fish but but occasionally occasionally you get a smart one and
what a smart siamese fighting fish does is wait for two other siamese fighting fish to exhaust
each other in fighting and then strikes and kills both of them and that's what Spectre's gonna do to the superpowers.
Mmm.
Also in the room is a woman
who's referred to as Number Three,
who is like, she's a Soviet,
but she's now working for Spectre.
And she always,
whenever she's in the room with Blofeld,
is always like sweating profusely
and looking very nervous.
So we really get a sense of like,
Blofeld will fucking kill you
if you cross him
but anyway in comes Kronstein
not a fucking freight of anything
he's like stumbling in
like
who is
Kronstein
walks right in and then Blofeld's like
yo okay so Kronstein have you got the plan
and he's like
who the fuck do you think you're talking to, big man?
I'm gonna explain my theory of the Anglo mind to you.
Which he does! And he's right.
He says this, right?
By reading of the British mentalities, that they always treat a trap as a challenge.
Yeah, because he outlines his plan, and Blofeld's like, well, this, I mean, that clearly sounds like a trap as a challenge. Yeah, because he outlines his plan and Blofeld's like, well, I mean,
that clearly sounds like a trap.
And he's like, yeah, absolutely, it's meant to. Shut up.
No way.
I have anticipated
every possible counter
move. Like, he's more or less just
laying his dick out on Blofeld's
desk here. And
Blofeld's just like, yeah, okay,
you, number number three go do
the smart guys thing
so Kronstein's plan is he's setting
up this very very obvious
trap and what
they're gonna do is they're gonna have this
Russian agent try
to defect shag James
Bond and kind of bait the British
intelligence in by saying we've got this
lector decoding machine
that she's going to bring with her when she defects and all
you've got to do is like come and pick her up
and that's them they're laying
this trap for Bond
yes and as
as we heard Blofeld was like this is obviously
a trap yeah of course it is
the Brits are going to fall right into it anyway
which spoiler alert
they do
Eb even has a line where he's like well of course it's a trap but honestly a lector decoding The Brits are going to fall right into it anyway. Which, spoiler alert, they do. Yeah, yeah.
Eb even has a line where he's like, well, of course it's a trap, but honestly.
A lector decoding should come on that.
The pussy's too good.
Sinus?
Oh, God.
But we have to properly introduce our nemesis, Red Grand,
which requires us to go to a place
which is honestly called...
It's honestly called...
Welcome to Spectre Island, great honor.
Why did you call it that?
Yeah, man, Spectre Island.
My hidden secret base is called Spectre Island.
That's not even the funniest thing about it.
So Colonel Klebb
number three she goes to pick
up Red Grant who is the guy who's
going to actually you know do the nasty on Bond
and she goes to pick him up
and they walk through the specter
training area
to meet him
it's so good
because they've got people
doing live firing,
some with machine guns, some with flamethrowers.
They've got actual live henchmen running behind the range,
like dodging between the targets,
whether they're being paid or what, I don't know.
And then like five feet away, they've got people doing judo
and like karate chopping through boards.
Chopping through boards boards it really seems
like like specter island was a lot smaller than they were expecting and you just have to do all
the training here 10 meter by five meter training area and i just try to get everything done and
they also can't afford good dubbing because everyone on specter island is overdubbed and
they all sound terrible the guy is quite clearly saying the word lake,
but they dub him over to say pool,
like Red Grant is by the pool.
So anyway, they go and meet Red Grant.
Then they go to it, and it's a lake.
Let me tell you, that's not a fucking point.
Yeah, Red Grant is just getting his biceps jerked off
by a woman in a bikini,
which I'm not sure that's what a massage is, but that's
what she's doing, she's fucking going to work on one of his massive biceps.
And Rosa Klebb decides to interview him for this role of killing James Bond, for the position
of James Bond murderer.
And her technique for this is to put on a fucking knuckle duster and sucker punch
him in the solar plexus and i was quite surprised when you did that to me and dev when you when you
interviewed us to have us on the podcast alice but i'm glad you've got the main standards i i did i
suffered it completely normally the best thing about when grant comes over like the guy's like
grant get over here and he comes right over and he just puffs his chest out so hard.
Yep.
If you take, like, a fucking screenshot of him, he's doing, like,
slightly overweight man pretending to be thin pose.
It's so good.
And Grant's background, right, that we're given is just murderer, right?
That's his deal.
that we're given is just murderer, right? That's his deal.
Spectre fucking broke
him out of prison and
recruited him in Tangier.
And, like, I played this as
the opening, but I really want to hammer
on this drop, right?
This grant's one of the best men we've ever had.
Homicidal, paranoid, superb
material. Those methods were a little crude.
His response to our training and
indoctrination have been remarkable.
And I want to, like,
explore the ideological
consequences of the fact
that those sentences are also
a perfect description of James
Bond as played by Daniel Craig.
Yeah, with the exception
of the prison, yeah.
Well, I would go as far as to say
obviously
what's his name red grant obviously obviously donald grant donny as i call him is is
being set up to be like the anti-bond like he's clearly being put there as like this is bond but
like in a mirror in a shattered mirror with a big crack down the middle but and but he doesn't really live up to that particularly well no
because the thing is right like what they're going for is bond but evil but he's not that evil and
he's also better at being bond than james bond is yeah i mean they do in later films they perfect
the kind of bond but evil villain uh this is the sort of first version of the alec trevelyan and the the bad guy from die another day who we see much later on but yeah
they are trying to go for this interesting james bond but evil he even looks a little bit like
daniel craig actually yeah you can kind of see like the sort of really close cropped very blonde
hair and the like very very large physically imposing man but yeah he was also a
fun fact on this he was also he's four inches shorter than sean connery huh but he's required
to be taller than him in all of the shots so he was always stood on a wooden box every time
next to each other hell yes so shocking we've got so then we have this scene oh boy do you want to talk us
through capital t capital s this scene yeah we have a few of these and this is definitely the
first scene where you're like oh christ oh god we see tatiana who works in the consulate general
of the so Union in Istanbul.
And we see her say goodbye to her
work friends, walk across a bunch of
really uneven cobblestones and
kitten heels, which, queen.
Yeah, freaking hell.
And then goes to report to her new
boss, Colonel Kleb, in
an apartment, I guess.
And we know that Kleb is working
for Spectre, but no one else knows that yet.
She doesn't. As far as she's concerned,
Cleb is, like, in uniform, too.
So she's like, yeah, no, this is
a colonel of state security
who has a secret assignment
for me. And what that secret assignment
turns out to be is some fucking
T for T ass
lesdom ass.
Like, this scene, man, I swear swear to god could have been filmed in the
fucking armory that the point that they want you to get from this is that rosa kleb is a lesbian
right and they are not subtle about that it is more subtle than it is in the books so so when
tatiana comes in uh colonel kleb basically performs a milf check she's like can you please
take your jacket off and turn around this is the soviet state milf check uh and then and then she
basically says so you're a slut like she's like how many you've had you've had three lovers and
she's like what is the significance of such a personal question and then club's like nothing
it just turns me on uh and then club like touches her knee in a
in a way that clearly makes tatiana uncomfortable club also has some kind of big like it's like a
stick or a writing drop something halfway between shut um and she smacks the back of her chair with
a really aggressive sound effect too and she basically says this is a photo of
james bond if for mother russia we need you to fuck him and do whatever he says like she's she's
setting tatiana up to be this kind of honeypot um and it is this i mean i'm going to use the word
again it's hauntology because we have this scene where the the villain colonel Klebb, is coded, not explicitly, but very obviously, as a lesbian.
And this is not
presented as titillation
for the audience, as it might be in a more
modern film. It's portrayed as, she is
a lesbian, and this is bad.
This is evil. It's
sinister. It's predatory.
She's creepy for this. She is,
as they used to call lesbians,
the lavender menace she is
like she is the kind of woman about about whom women would and did say they should not be allowed
in our changing rooms so there's this weird like as a tram as a trans woman watching this scene
it's very very haunting um but anyway very funny because colonel klebb right she's she's older she's not like
do you want to say conventionally attractive to the imagined audience of this movie
no that's why that's why i fucking called it t for t right it's because it fucking is
you have a woman who's like hyper femme who's literally being dubbed by another woman because
her voice doesn't fucking work for the role because her accent's too
thick being seduced by this frankly kind of mannish older woman rules yeah i mean i wouldn't say that
it's seduced i don't think i wouldn't say that's my reading of the scene i mean it's not portrayed
upon definitely it's preyed upon yeah this is portrayed i think it's quite homophobic scene actually um but anyway then we cut to the sex that we're allowed to be okay with because james bond is
shagging in a boat yeah which i just want to pull up that's 18 minutes into the movie that we get
our first shot of bond because that it's first of all it's the lowest stakes of any any bond movie
or basically any spy movie of all time.
They want to steal a code decoding machine, right?
It's not there's a nuke going to go off.
It's not the world's ending.
It's not even rocket fall down.
Rocket's not even falling down.
It's just a code machine.
And it sort of serves only to set up Spectre in more detail and as more of a threat.
serves only to set up specter in more detail and as more of a threat so they spend the whole start just focusing in on all the auxiliary characters because we know what bond's like we understand
bond yeah and then for the previous 18 minutes he's been shagging we can't do it after having
been shagging with sylvia trench the lady from the first film yeah he's with he's with sylvia
With Sylvia Trench, the lady from the first film! Yeah, he's with Sylvia!
They genuinely wanted to make this a recurring character, and like, she would
constantly be getting cockblocked by Bond having to jet off to such and such another
like, exotic destination.
And it just doesn't happen, this is the last time we see her in the franchise.
Uh, sorry!
But once again, Bond gets called away from Sylvia to go and see M.
Bond gets called away on a gigantic pager, which then requires him to, like,
use the car phone in his open-top Bentley.
Again, this is like...
Because that's in the books!
And this is the first Bond car, is this ridiculous 1920s-looking-ass car.
That massive phone was on a...
The huge phone in a car was a state-of-the-art gadget.
Oh, yeah.
That was supposed to be something where you saw that
and you were like, holy shit, look at all the cool shit Bond has.
But it's this massive fucking handset.
Now it's just sort of my charming...
On the dashboard of your car yeah yeah
kind of nice and so but bond does the same thing twice where he's just like yeah i'll be in an hour
and then sylvia trench is like but you won't have sex with me and he's like we're fine hour and a
half so i can have sex with this woman which he does 10 minutes yeah yeah i'm sorry what hump
inefficiently what he says is that as he's closing the fucking like
canopy of the bentley over them is now about that lunch which implies he's gonna eat her
pussy for half an hour i don't believe that bond has ever eaten a pussy no i'm willing to put a
pin in that i don't think he does that no i genuinely do not believe we can this is the
rest of the podcast by the way we're just gonna be talking about where Fonat Bond eats pussy.
He doesn't. Like, fully no.
No, he thinks it's gay. He won't do it.
He comes and he's like, well, that's enough of that, and just leaves. 100%. My god.
So after having done that, he goes back to the same shitty office as last time, meets M, and M is like, yo, this girl in Istanbul,
she wants to bang you.
And also bring a cipher machine.
And fucking, once again, ableist James Bond.
I have a drop for this.
Of course, girls do fall in love with pictures of film stars.
But not a Russian cipher clerk with a file photo of a British agent.
Unless she's mental.
Unless she's mental.
Sounds like an ad-lib.
Yeah, it feels like he got to the end of his line and then he was like,
no, this isn't offensive enough, hang on.
Yeah, that's right.
Which is such a Connery move in general.
So something I want to bring up, right,
is that allegedly the story is that Tatiana has fallen in love
with James Bond from his file photo, wants to defect,
but will only defect to him in person,
and to sweeten the deal will provide the Lector decoding machine
to the British.
So this implies that the Soviets have a file photo of James Bond, a British secret agent.
And M doesn't see this as a reason for Bond to immediately retire.
Like, Bond, you're our main guy.
They know exactly what you look like.
You are sacked, you fucking idiot.
It gets better, right?
Because there's some reciprocity.
There's some reciprocity here, because M
then says, the head of station T
in Turkey managed to
snap a photo of this
woman, and he hands Bond
fully a glamour shot.
Yeah, like, this is not a fucking
surreptitious photo that's been taken.
No, it is very, very
posed. She posed for it. He's like, excuse me, madam,
I'd like to spy on you.
And she's like, oh, please go ahead.
Yeah.
Please go ahead.
And now here's my thing.
I'm just going to nip in here and say,
Abby, how dare you say shit about Cronstein's plan?
This is a masterwork.
I'm not talking shit about Cronstein's plan.
I'm talking shit about M's ability, M's apparent inability to realize
that he's got a massive security breach on his hands.
They know what Bond looks like.
Ah, the British.
He's meant to be a secret agent.
World's greatest spy.
That's right.
James Bond.
Well, one moving in and they already know what you look like.
You don't.
We also, we get to meet Hugh.
They know it so well, they made a rubber mask of his face
yeah they fucking did that
like 360 degree photos of your face my man
they could put a mask on someone and just walk into M's office and shit him.
Like, that is how
compromised MI7 is.
Ah.
Ah, the British Isles.
But we have
to get another gadget, which
Bond does. We meet Q
for the first time. Desmond Llewellyn.
Yeah, and what he gives
Bond is an attache case
which contains
a bunch of hidden coins,
gold sovereigns,
a concealed
knife, a gun,
which, again, fucking rules that you could just
get on a plane with a rifle in a
suitcase. Well, it was in his carry-on
and he was just like, yeah.
Don't worry about it. in in a classic example of the like hue format for explaining something watch very carefully
an ordinary tin of talcum powder inside a tear gas cartridge and if you open the case wrong
the tear gas canister goes off in your face. Clever. Remember that for later.
This is a technique called foreshadowing,
and the Bond movies don't do it often,
but when they do, it fucking lands
like an anvil.
He's honestly like,
he's like, oh,
they spend a lot of time talking about this case,
and at that point I was like, he's gonna win
using the case. He's gonna win using the tear gas
case, yes bond bond flirts with money penny on the way out and money penny is like you never take me
to istanbul and he gives her the photo of tanya which for some fucking reason he signs from Russia with Love as a title
drop. He doesn't even
fucking go to Russia! He's not
going to- there's no Russia in
this movie. She's defecting from Russia.
I guess, but she's defecting from Turkey. It's also not clear why
Moneypenny would want this photo anyway.
Yeah.
No. Moneypenny's the only
good female character
in any of these so far.
She's so good.
And I mean...
And that's because she isn't an object of desire, right?
I went into this a little bit.
I like Titania.
No, no, no, no, no.
Sure, what I mean is...
I mean, I like Titania and I like Titania.
I said this on the past one,
is that every single James Bond character
is thought of first and foremost,
like how do they interact with Bond?
And then after that, they build a character.
And Titania suffers from it as well,
is how does she interact with Bond
or Bond wants to fuck her?
And then they build the character after that.
With Moneypenny
it seems like they actually started with
an actual character in that
she's not supposed to be just like a fucking forget
she's actually like going to be recurring
she needs to have some
sort of staying power
so she comes across as basically the only
woman in a Bond film that you're supposed to
understand as a person
she's the only one who doesn't have the mind of a child which we'll get into oh god yeah but before
before we do that brain later we have we have we have a classic in the in the genre of airport
scenes right where bond bond shows up meets a guy uh who like literally just grabs a martini off a tray in the airport
and the
world's most
spy-looking man
The world's most
suspicious-looking motherfucker
This man with a fucking painted
on moustache wearing a beret
starts following them.
But we do get one crucial piece of information
here, which is that Bond has learned from Dr. No, he has learned not to just immediately get
into the car of a man who's going to kill you at the airport, and he has a code phrase.
Can I borrow a match? I use a lighter. It's better better still until they go wrong exactly which sounds like such a
fucking proposition in general right yeah like it doesn't sound like the same thing was with quarrel
it sounds like bond is picking these guys up but yeah and i mean anyway they use this one code phrase throughout the entire movie.
It is laughably insecure, but this time it works.
As with all of MI6's meshes!
Yeah!
It's more secure than his face!
Would you care to, like, pretend you haven't seen this movie.
If I told you, uh, yeah, the fucking MI7 station in Turkey, in Istanbul, operates out of a front business, what would you guess that that front business would be?
It would either be carpets or olives.
Those would be the same.
It's in back of a rug shop.
There you go.
A big rug over the door.
Tricky ice cream man.
Yeah. And we meet my second favorite character in this movie after Kronstein, Ali Karim Bey,
the head of Station T in Turkey, and a man whose only job in this movie is to lay maximum
pipe at all times, in all situations.
He's so cool.
He's very cool.
He's fun.
He's like our man in istanbul he's very cool
yeah wearing wears a lot of like linen white linen suits um and like as as a means of telling
you how much he fucks right we get this exchange so i gathered from your chauffeur he's a rather intelligent young man by the way he should
be he's my son coffee medium sweet two medium sweet he also is my son all of my key employees
are my sons and he has so many of them yeah they going, it's like a recurring gag.
Also, something else I pulled out, which made, like, when I was watching
and I paused the video to yell about for a second or two,
Karim has a framed photo of
Churchill on his desk. Yeah, and a
giant one, too. It's so good.
Yeah, it's very weird.
It's so good.
Because it's like, for what purpose can you possibly have this?
I guess he just has too large of a family to have just family photos there.
Yeah, take up the whole desk.
And we also find out that Bond has been followed, which he observes.
Like, everybody knows everybody's following everyone else.
By a pair of Bulgarians working for the Russians.
And that's who that incredibly spy looking man is.
And also Donald is following in a,
in a car.
Yes,
that's right.
And we get into some interesting sequence,
right?
Because like we get an excruciatingly long scene of bond checking into his
hotel.
And the thing,
the thing about this one, right,
is that, like, in the early Bond movies,
they really paper over the cracks with the Bond theme.
Like, you know that once they finish composing it,
they're like, okay, we've got a thing here, right?
But, like, whenever there's a slow moment,
they'll just fucking crank that shit up.
And so Bond inspects his hotel room for bugs and then asks for another
hotel room and like tips the bell hop and stuff and in the background you have the extremely epic
bond music and you kind of you get the sense that like bond has this running on a loop in his head
as he just does mundane stuff like he's just going about his day doing... I'm going to argue with you on this one.
I think the hotel scene is masterful, if anything.
The music, terrible, like bad.
If you watched it silently, it would be good.
Because again, I want to go over it.
This is not a leitmotif.
It's not like different music on the same tune.
It is the Bond theme.
It is what you think about as the Bond theme.
But the hotel scene is great
because he shows up,
he finds a bug in the hotel
and he asks them to move to a different room
and they go, okay, tell him they've only got the bridal suite.
So they tell him, he swaps to the bridal suite.
He now thinks he's safe,
but in reality he's now in the room
that they wanted him to be in from the start
it's a way of showing that he's being completely outplayed by spectre that's a good point i hadn't
actually realized that they put a very obvious bug in there he finds it and then he he thinks
he's like i'm james bond i found the bug and then he moves room and then he doesn't care about
security from that point onwards i mean all i can I can say is... You're right, Dev.
Compared with Kronstein.
Kronstein wins again, motherfucker!
Kronstein fucking wins again!
Yeah, that's right.
He has anticipated every move.
Damn, good work, Kronstein.
That's right.
And so, Grant kills this Bulgarian dude,
and he leaves his body outside the Soviet consulate, prompting an act of revenge.
They try to kill Karim, and the reason this doesn't work...
Is because Mrs. Karim is horny.
Mrs. Karim is so fucking horny, man.
He is trying to work on some papers papers and she calls his name like six times
she's like writhing biting on her own necklace she's like i need the pipe immediately this second
no it can't wait i don't give a shit what kind of secret bullshit you're doing.
And his line, which I quite like, is, well, back to the salt mines.
And as he's taking off his jacket, the Bulgarians try to kill him by setting off a disco ball in his office.
Yeah, it's a purple explosion, which is very funny. Yeah, just a flashing purple light goes off and the fucking roof comes down.
That's just how Karen Bay fucks, that's just how he does it. That happens every time.
Well that's kind of what Bond implies when he shows that.
Yeah, that's what Bond says.
Bond just straight up asks him, hey, are you a rapist?
He's like, hey, did you do this with your dick? Like, wow, good work.
Genuinely, this is the exchange, right? Good fortune, I was relaxing on the settee for a fewist. He's like, hey, did you do this with your dick? Like, wow, good work. Genuinely, this is the exchange, right?
Good fortune, I was relaxing
on the settee for a few moments.
The girl left me hysterics.
Found your technique too violent?
Yeah, it's really like, ooh.
Fuck me, dude.
It's kind of creepy.
But anyway, then we get some
racism.
Not quite yet.
No, a little bit.
First, we have to, like, swim across a reservoir,
and Bond has to use a periscope to, like, look into the Soviet consulate
for some fucking reason.
And he sees a pair of women's legs, and he's like,
this is the horniest I've ever been.
Do you want to know what else?
That's not Titania's legs she had a leg double the director decided hot enough and swapped her out for a
different one in that scene good lord just why you never see her face in that because it's a
fully different woman because again these movies are horrendously misogynist how would the periscope
work like does it come up through the floor and a pot plant lifts up like i imagine so like it's they've got like i don't want to
stress it this is not like two mirrors set up this is a full fucking naval yeah it's like a
submarine periscope yeah but uh now now we got to talk about the racism. Now, yeah.
I think we should do some stall setting out here, right?
Yeah, good idea.
I think what we are going to say when we're talking about these people is Roma, right?
That's not what they say in the movie. Yeah, that is not the word they use in the movie.
I have it in a drop, so I'm gonna have to mention it.
But the word that they use is gypsy, right?
Kareem takes him to an encampment that he has.
And he just quite flatly says, yeah, I use these guys.
Like the Russians use the Bulgarians.
Yeah, the verb is use.
Use.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
He calls them filthy.
Like they are portrayed as sensual and tribalistic.
And they're going to see these people that Kerim uses.
It's not really clear why.
But also, when they get there,
apparently two women are going to fight to the death over a man.
Oh, I have the drop for this.
That's in a moment.
It seems we've come on the wrong night.
Two girls in love with the same man have threatened to kill each other when this happens he settled it away i want to just
explain why they're they're there because while they're while they're looking through the periscope
into the russian embassy they see a guy who's like a spooky killing man is how they say krillenku
krillenku he really enunciates it he here, he probably did the mine outside my room.
We need to go somewhere else overnight so we'll be safe.
And they go there and immediately Kralenku is alerted.
He just finds them.
Yeah, he just knows.
His MI7 leaks like a sieve anyway.
We're not concerned with this right now.
What we're concerned with is the sensual ways of these people's women.
That's right. The movie, we're about halfway is the like are the sensual ways of these people's women right the movie we're about halfway through now right and the movie just has a striptease in the middle of it
in case you get bored basically yeah it's got a belly dancer and then bond is just watching this
and then the belly dancer comes out and bond turns around in his chair with such fucking speed and alacrity that you could like almost hear the Metal Gear Solid exclamation.
Because he's talking to Kerem and then you just hear like the rattling of a belly dancer and he just rotates fully on the spot.
Yeah.
He's like an owl with the special ears on the side of his head that just like channels the noise of pussy to his brain.
Full eyes bulge.
Yeah.
His head rotates
180 degrees yeah it's it's then time for the uh let me say ultimate surrender portion of this
movie which is just two partially closed women wrestling for the affections of an unseen man
yeah yeah the the roma catfight that every movie has to have.
Of course.
And it's very uncomfortable
because there's these two
scantily clad women
having this fight
and then partway through
Kralenko and the Bulgarians
and also Red Grant attack.
And there's this really weird
gear shift between
the violence that we are supposed
to find sexy and entertaining,
which is the violence
of these two women killing each other, and then the violence that we're meant to find sexy and entertaining, which is the violence of these two women killing each other,
and then the violence that we're meant to find is,
oh, like, now peril, now danger.
And now there's real danger.
Yeah, so it's this really bizarre gear change
between these two kinds of violence that's very odd.
But anyway, the Bulgarians attack.
And then we get a slightly weird moment
because all these people in the encampment are
being attacked by the bulgarians and as bond is running through the camp trying to kill people
at random but he saved someone's life he actually stops and he saves a man's life which is like the
first unambiguously heroic thing we've seen him do yeah he saves the chief who says thank you in
the most heavily accented way i've ever heard
there's also a point in the fight where bond comes across two men who are fighting and just
throws them both into a pond yeah and it's like he's just not taking sides i guess yeah but he
does do something unambiguously heroic and also um red grant saves his life at one point he's about
to be stabbed and red grant shoots the guy but one point he's about to be strapped and red grant
shoots the guy but like he's just sort of wandering from place to place occasionally
pistol whipping a guy in the middle of his back uh like pressing heavy attack like setting a
covered wagon on fire throwing a guy into a pond and eventually the bulgarians have had enough and
they leave and this leads to one of my favorite lines,
which is in relation to the chief whose life he saved.
Labrador thanks you for saving his life.
You are now his son.
Yeah.
Like he's made an honorary member of the tribe.
Yeah.
He is asked to dances with wolves here.
Yeah.
To adjudicate the fucking girl fight
by, I guess, fucking both of them and deciding which one is a better wife.
I started a stopwatch when these women appeared on screen.
Yep.
Because we do a thing here where we measure how long it takes
for a woman to first appear on screen to the time Bond has sex with them.
The record from the last
was Miss Taro, a white
woman in yellow face
that took 8 minutes and 40 seconds.
And this one?
To the best of my knowledge, non-Roma women
playing Roma. Absolutely.
Two women, 5 minutes
and 40 seconds apiece.
So he's impressed by three minutes.
He's blasted through that record.
He's cutting time down.
This is, to my mind, and I don't know if this is or not,
but I feel like this isn't a faithful representation of Romani culture.
Yeah.
Is there a cultural mechanism in Turkish Roma culture
that requires or provides for a sort of semi-naked
wrestle in order to
marry a dude. I don't think that there
is, but the movie
insists, and so that's that.
And then they just leave. Then they just fucking leave.
Yeah, in the morning they just go.
That was the scene. Alright, next scene.
Next scene. The next scene
is my favourite.
Oh, please, take us through it through it so bond gets back to his hotel
room which as we've established is exactly the hotel room that cronstein wants him in and he
finds a blonde woman in a choker in his bed that fucking choker it's a black velvet choker
i think all of us currently are like doing the sort of like eyeballs
bulging out of face uh siren noise i mean yeah other than the fact that she is russian rather
than american like oof like this is i'm i'm very jealous of bond in this scene um and and anyway
this this scene is a stock audition for Bond actors and Bond girls. Really?
Which is remarkable, because it's not a particularly good scene.
No, it's not.
But when they've been casting Bonds, that's one of the auditions that they make them do.
Really?
Bond discovers this woman in his hotel room.
He's actually taking a bath, and he forgets to turn the tap off.
So presumably the room is just flooding at this point.
turn the tap off so presumably the room is just flooding at this point
and he falls
face first into the honey trap
with another
truly transcendent line
you're one of the most beautiful girls I've ever seen
thank you but
I think my mouth is too big
no it's the right size
for me that is
I mean
that is is mean that is
go to jail
go to prison
go to fucking prison
I mean I would also fall into the honey trap
if the honey trap looked like that
but this is Tanya
she's played by an Italian actress being dubbed again
because I don't know why that's just how we do it
because she had a really thick Italian accent
apparently and it would have been a bit weird
if she was like
I think in my mouth it's too big
but anyway
welcome to Istanbul
greatest city in the world
I love the communism
hey you ever heard of a bodega no um yeah she's meant she's very much meant to be russian
so they couldn't have a heavy italian accent but anyway they fuck they fuck but like we get a
really well done shot of the other side of the mirror where there's a bunch of guys with like uh really advanced
cameras just like filming them in close-up i i paused it on this to tell who the two of them
were because the british film censors said that they had to make that shot very very quick
because apparently fucking on screen is fine but not voyeurism on screen
and they're not doing it for sexual purposes. Whoa.
It's Grant and Cleb in there. Huh.
Oh, I didn't even realise that.
Yeah, I didn't spot it until the second watch.
I guess it is voyeurism if Cleb's there
because she's getting off. Yes.
Grant, yeah, that's right.
Grant, as far as we know, yeah.
There's also a scene
where they deal with
the guy, Krilenku.
They finally deal with him.
And it's a beautiful scene where Bond sexually harasses a woman,
sort of in the abstract.
Hmm.
He sexually harasses a poster.
Yeah.
He sexually harasses a poster.
So to set this scene up here,
what they're doing is they they know where kralenko
is they know where his base is so they're hiding nearby with with bonds folding sniper rifle from
his uh his case um karim bey sends two of his sons who are policemen to go and knock on the door
and then uh you can't just run out the back he opens an escape hatch which is on on the wall
where there's a massive poster and it is the woman's mouth of the poster just opens up and
he starts to climb out karen bay shoots him and then as a sick line bond says she should have
kept her mouth shut doesn't bear any resemb, what are you talking about, dog?
Yeah, this one line is in this film, I'm not actually that very good.
There's a very bad one later on.
Yeah, we'll get to that one.
Anyway, they get Kralenko.
Yeah, we have a brief scene in the Ayasofya,
the now
mosque, then museum,
in Istanbul, where
Bond manages to extract
a floor plan that he does not need from a
woman that he has already had sex with, like, for no real reason.
And the reason this scene exists is so that our, like, obvious Bulgarian spy man can get
fucking murdered by Red Grant, who, like, with the simple expedient of punching him
in the side of the head twice
murders him stone
fucking dead. Sort of slaps him
twice. Yeah
and then they get the floor plan
of the Soviet consulate in order
to steal the cipher
machine and then they already have
a floor plan they're just checking if it matches
for some reason there was no reason
to like do this um and but kareem like kareem and bond are immediately like yo this is a like the
biggest trap this woman is clearly playing me james bond however the pussy too good so i i don't
care about this i mean going again like if the honeypot looks like that I mean
yeah
Kareem says something
to the effect of she's got you whipped
Bond it's a very nice choker
it is nice yeah
and then we get a what I call the
horny machine talk
the horny machine talk section
where Bond is trying to
extract technical details about this cipher machine and she oh i like this bond bond is trying to like extract technical
details about this cipher machine and she's just like i'm so horny you just fucked me already like
instead of talking about this boring boy stuff so bond bond is recording her talking about the
lector decoder machine to try and establish that it's genuine and he's sending this recording back
to mi6 but she tries to
embarrass bond in front of his boss by just talking into the recording about how goddamn horny she is
and that was my read on it is that she's trying to annoy him and wind him up which i thought was
quite cute but like the thing is right but bond this is the only moment where bond outplays her
because he kicks that embarrassment up at the chain one level by embarrassing his boss himself with this very curious line.
Dushka, tell me the truth.
Am I as exciting as all those Western girls?
Oh, once when I was with them in Tokyo, we had an interesting experience.
Thank you, Miss Moneypenny.
That's all.
That's all.
I mean, fill in the blanks yourself.
But all I have to say about that and the implications there are this drop that I used already.
My reading of the British mentality is that they always treat a trap as a challenge.
Again, you know, who is Bond compared to Kronstein?
Who is Bond?
The other funny thing, right, is how horny this makes Moneypenny, of all people.
Like, she's listening in on the intercom and she's fucking sucking off a pencil, listening to another woman be horny.
I don't...
Yeah, it's not a great portrayal.
Yeah, this movie's really giving me mixed messages about lesbianism.
Yeah, it's good, but also it's not good. It's good when it's not communist, I guess?
Anyway, Bond gets the actual cipher machine stupidly easy by the simple expedient of fucking
blowing up a diplomatic mission with a bomb.
Yeah, it seems very easy to do that it's not really very exciting i just done
that didn't need to do the whole honeypot thing could have just blown up a wall and then like
karate chop one man steal the thing run out that's right um and then we get to the fucking
denouement they get on the orient express um jesus christ unfortunately long scene yeah god yeah it takes for fucking ever unfortunately
30 minutes one of one of the soviet dudes who is also an extremely sweaty man you can correlate
like sweatiness to evil here uh manages to get on the train with them prince of the world's
least evil man yeah that's right allegedly what does that even mean i'm saying he's not evil
allegedly a very nice man yeah yeah i'm saying allegedly he's a nice man yeah so bond and kareem
like do some fucking boy zone adventure shit they easily capture this man and then what they do with
him to restrain him is they pull his jacket lightly down over his
shoulders and he's like well my well you got me um yes unfortunately grant then kills both of them
because grant's the only person in this movie who's good at his job yeah and he's bloody good
at his job as well like he's frequently just seen in the background of of scenes yeah he's so fucking good
at this it's like a really well done menacing villain he is also that the actor who plays him
really gives him this sort of menacing presence he's very good the only the only downside to it
is that a lot of what he does that is supposed to actually be menacing is done off screen
so like we only see him walking towards the room where kerem is with with this other guy
and then later on some other guys like my god they're both dead as almost all of what grant
does is off screen and i don't know that it really helps yeah in the meantime though we get some
character development for tanya which is to say bond buys her some lingerie. And this is the most 1963 lingerie you can imagine.
Oh, is that what that was meant to be?
Yeah, it's like a negligee.
It's not even that, it's like an ankle length!
It's got a fucking pain ure on it too.
It's ankle length, it's like, oh god, it is not sexy at all.
And I don't know how much of that is like, film classification, and how much of it is
just like, this was made before free love, even.
This was made before women were sexy.
That's right.
I don't think it was, having seen Tanya.
Yeah, that's correct, you got me there.
Calm down.
I'm gonna get a spray bottle.
So...
I wanna highlight very quickly, when they get on the train they're given false
identities
Mr and Mrs Somerset
David and Caroline Somerset
tells Tanya that her name is Caroline
and then immediately and loudly
with the door open as he's leaving
calls her Tanya
King
James Bond, world's worst spy
here he is
but then sadly we get a scene James Bond, world's worst spy. There he is.
But then, sadly,
we get a scene... So Kerem is dead.
Kerem's been killed.
And Bond suspects that Tanya
is a double agent or something.
How does he get information out of a woman?
1963.
Violence?
Sing along at home if you know the words.
It's literally like he grabs her by the arm and then he slaps her a couple of times yeah our hero ladies and gentlemen like
yeah and and she's like in tears she's crying it's very sad she's reduced to tears but also
she's like yeah no but she's protesting that she loves him and that she doesn't want him
to leave her it's real fucking grim man she's like i love you and bond says sure and just fucking
leaves and this this woman has left her friends and presumably her family her country behind
and is now considering really defecting and all she has to look forward
to is this
violent bastard
it's a heartbreaking scene
time marches on
I'd also like to point out that Bond fucking hits her
even when they're supposed to be
you know
not hostile
let me just give you this
now listen
just do as I say will you yes jams
and i mean that i mean well that was that was him that was a slap on the ass slap on the ass
uh just yeah just do as i say smack um and you know we know that sean connery's own views about women and like uh relationships
with women were not too different uh this i don't think audiences at the time would have seen it as
being anything aberrant in the slightest um and it's just it's a really grim thing like it hasn't
grim thing like it hasn't aged
oh god no it has not aged well
my words
but then Red Grant
makes his move
yeah we get to Zagreb and because
MI7 uses the same
laughably insecure
code phrase all the time
apparently everywhere as well
everywhere in the world
do you have a match? I use a lighter,
better still, until they break down. So Grant knows this. You'd think because he'd been
standing directly behind Bond the last time he used it, he would know it that way, but no. He
later says that Spectre's world reach sweated it out of a guy in tokyo which is so funny because that
implies that that code phrase is used every single mission again mi6 security is state of the art
um it's not this is also when we when we hear red grant's voice for the first time and it's
really not what i expected yeah red so red grant hitman's his way into like, he gets further increasing the vibe of this as a pickup line, he gets the guy who M has sent to meet Bond to follow him into the toilets, murders him, takes his hat for some fucking reason, and then adopts his persona, Captain Nash.
And he adopts the voice
too so it's very plummy
it's very upper class
and at this point I'm struck by the fact
that Red Grant is already on the
train and has already committed
two murders on the train
why not just kill Bond?
Why this
subterfuge? Because he needed to toy with him
I guess
It's all part of Kronstein's plan Why this subterfuge? Because he needed to, like, toy with him, I guess. Oh, I guess.
It's all part of Kronstein's plan. Why not just kill Bond is gonna
be a sentence we say maybe ad absurdum over the course of this podcast.
Yes, true. Because Bond, like, takes him to dinner,
and Red Grant orders, in the persona of Captain Nash, he like, first of all he drugs Tanya with
chloral hydrate, which Bond is later repulsed by, which is fucking hypocritical of him.
And then he orders a Chianti with his soul, he orders red wine with fish.
Which is fucked up. Which is fucked up.
It certainly was then, I mean you could get certain red wines now that would work, but
back then it was like, what? Not a Chianti. This is the kind of thing that, like, you had to use
to show that someone was jokified in 1963, because we didn't have the kind of advanced
jokification technology that we have now. Instead, you just had to, like, be like,
yeah, I'll drink a red wine with a fish, I don't give a shit. That's life.
The waiter is like, yeah, do you want a white Chianti? Which, first
of all, isn't a thing.
There are white wines made in the Chianti region,
so I just imagined the waiter was like,
have you fucked up here?
Give me a red Chianti.
Insanity.
Yeah, and so Tanya
gets back to the room collapses and uh nash pulls a gun on
on and reveals himself to be red grant and bond being bond does not miss a fucking trick
does not miss an opportunity to be a fucking snob so the first thing that he says is Red wine with fish.
That should have told
me something.
You may know the right wines.
You're the one on your knees.
Which is, again, fucking
roasted.
Red Grant's really, really good in this scene
actually. Red Grant fucking owns.
This is a good scene.
Bond seems to be in genuine real
peril in this scene but at the same time grant is grant reveals all of this very sensitive
information that he really shouldn't like he reveals that he works for specter he tells bond
what specter's plan is but he does it in a way that yes is goofy because he should have just
killed bond but it's clear we're seeing here now that red grant is a little bit unhinged well he's like enjoying this as soon as he drops the act and
he pulls the gun his voice goes down about two full social classes and so when he's giving him
the monologue he sounds like this oh i don't mind talking i get a kick out of watching the great james bond find out what a
bloody fool he's been making of himself we're pros mr bond we sweated your recognition code
out of one of your men in tokyo before he died which again you didn't need to do that but it is
to us that does sound a bit fancy still but, it cannot be stressed how fancy this bastard was making his voice before.
Yeah, and like, it's clearly like, there's some fucking class character going on here,
there's some class anxiety about this guy who disguises himself as someone more upper
class and then the facade drops, and he's much meaner than that right um and so he bond tries to pay him off as a member of the lower
classes you must like money right yeah and you get this this sort of beautiful beautiful thing
where it just does not work at all. How much are they paying you?
What's it to you?
We'll double it.
Your word of honour?
As an English gentleman?
The first one won't kill you.
Not the second not even
the third
not till you
crawl over here and you kiss my foot
yeah it's so good
the whole time in this scene
he's just really like there's this really
pursed sort of tense
anger yeah there's no
music at all there's just the sound of the train
it's genuinely so so good right robert shaw was the name of the actor playing red grant and he
really does make him this like stone cold killer it's very good yeah and this sort of contempt
towards bond like he comes by it honestly is is the nice thing. There is some real
sort of class
animus here. Well, he's a big
fan of the podcast, Red Grant. I mean, he
just wants to kill James Bond, as do we all.
Honestly, Red Grant, come on the pod.
Come on the pod. Anytime, you're welcome.
Yeah. Unfortunately,
for our boy, though,
the hook is in, right? Bond realises
that the thing that gives him pause is, like, greed, is in, right? Bond realizes that the thing that gives him pause
is, like, greed, is money. And so Bond is like, yeah, no, there's a bunch of money in this case,
and of course, through a technique known as foreshadowing, we know that when the case is
opened in the wrong way, a bunch of tear gas goes off. And this happens despite the fact that Red
Grant takes a bunch of precautions, right? Like, he has Bond open the case, and then he, like, opens the second case himself.
And it's just, like, it's actually quite deftly done.
You get the sense that this is not an easy man to trick,
and that Bond having done it and maintained a poker face the whole time is something quite impressive.
Yeah.
And sadly, Red Grant gets, uh, he gets fucking done he gets got he gets fucking done he gets done fight that last like two to three minutes
first the first good fight scene in the entire franchise bond has learned some new moves not
just heavy and light attack he has learned the grapple feet and as such uh due to the invention
of fight choreography this looks like two guys in a train car with a light shot out trying to
kill each other.
Like Bond fucking stamps on his back at one point.
It's really brutal, and it's brutal in a way that, again, I don't think you see until the
Craig movies even.
And yeah, no, it's really quite striking unfortunately the movie
goes on for another 40 minutes after yeah this is the point at which like if that had been the last
scene in the movie i would have been like fuck this is a great movie actually this is legitimately
a good movie but it overstays its welcome so hard we're gonna blast through this last bit right they they get off the train uh
bond gets in a fight with a helicopter a guy in a specter helicopter who looks a lot like simon peg
tries to drop grenades on them which is very unusual because we've established that specter
are trying to get the lector decoding machine and it feels like you damage it that way but
at this point i think spectre are taking the piss.
There's actually some very impressive stunt flying. Which still manages to be
boring from a plot perspective, but like, they try and run Bond down with the helicopter,
like north by north west. And um, like, they actually got a lot closer to Sean Connery
than they intended to. So the actual filming of this, Bond is diving out of the way of this
helicopter that absolutely shoots
through the frame.
Unfortunately, of course, Bond
wins in the end. He shoots the guy, the guy drops
a grenade in the helicopter.
It's a very, like, Hemingway-
Hitchcock-inspired, like,
crop duster kind of scene.
Of course, Bond does have a line, which is
one of their aircraft is missing
which is topical at the time because it's the name of a movie but like now is just like you're what
now it's yeah not a good line yeah very weird um and then then then the saddest scene
then we cut back to to specter's boat Lofeld, Kronstein and Klebb.
Kronstein now a little bit hungover, maybe?
He's kind of starting to sober up, not feeling good about it?
As smug as he was at that point, he's saying,
look, it's Klebb's fault she fucked up.
Which is true.
Which is literally true.
He set everything in the right place.
And it was Grant's fuck up.
But neither of them
had just shot bond like cornstein there's an extended sequence where like grant is robbing
bond and he has a gun to his temple and he could have just fucking killed him but like he does not
he chooses not to in order to obtain more gold sovereigns and for this he pays with his life but blofeld does a classic
what is to become a classic blofeld move he does the fake out right where he puts a button on his
everything summons big man big man this is the big man but we all wish we had a big man somebody he
summons a flat nose geezer he somebody does and and he's laying everything at Cleb's door.
And then, at the last
second, the big man
fucking murders our boy.
Our special man.
Kronstein.
With a poison knife in his shoe.
Kicks him right in the shin.
Yeah, it seems like you could have gone for
poison or knife in the shoe,
but they decided to go for both.
And Kronstein, like, lunges over the desk
with this, like, really well-done expression of, like,
confusion and affront and bafflement.
Like, why would you do this?
Like, for fuck's sake, man, my plan was good.
Like, Kronstein's actor, Vladek Schabel, is phenomenal.
The plan worked. You could have fucking
like, I don't know,
dock the guy's wages or something.
But instead, what Blofeld
hits him with is
failure is not an
option. The punishment for failure,
Inspector, is death
every time.
Which presumably explains why they never win
yeah which is why there's
three of them there and they're called numbers
one, three and five
yeah numbers two
and four could not make it on account of having
been fucking murdered
they failed and are dead
and so he
Kleb is sweating buckets at this point
and Blofeld is like, fix it.
So, we get through a boat chase, which is very boring, right?
Yeah, very bad.
There's a boat chase, it's fine.
Bond gets another line where he's like, where there's smoke, there's fire.
Which is funny, because he's just set a bunch of men on fire.
Also, it doesn't make sense in context.
Yeah, it's pretty bad.
It does not make sense
Tanya's still there but she's just basically
an object at this point
she's fully clocked out
she never really recovers
from being roofied
after this
that's something I wanted to point out
because after
Bond kills Grant
he fucking finally does it
he needs to get off the train
because they're basically at their stopping point and uh tanya is still under the effects of roofies
so what bond does is tries to threaten the drug into wearing off
i'm leaving you he does this a couple of times and it works. It's so good when he's trying to threaten a drug.
And so, yeah, we get a scene of them in the hotel in Venice,
having made it to safety,
and then fucking Rosa Klebb comes in disguised as the maid
and tries to pull a gun on Bond.
Yeah.
And then at the last second,
Tanya finally remembers
that she, you know, is an agent
of change, and
fucking lunges at her, which gives
Bond enough time to fight her off, while she's
trying to kick at him with this poison
knife in her shoe.
Very inefficiently as well.
Yeah. Until Tanya finally
shoots her, and Bond cannot stop
himself from saying
she's had her kicks
Cleb doesn't die well either
it seems like she's in a lot of
she dies bitterly
it's not a kind of quick
haha end of the James Bond film
she really suffers
she puts it through
how Tanya doesn't fucking murk Bond
also and then just take the
coding machine to the highest bidder i will never know but yeah well because she's not a character
they they they get in a vaporizer and uh there's always one plot point that i forget when i'm
retelling these and the plot point that i've forgotten this one was the sex tape right the tape that they made of them grant tells bond that cronstein's plan is to make their deaths look like
a murder suicide and leak this sex tape and so disgracing mi7 in the world because like this
agent has just been having sex with a woman on the job fucked up
in 2021 they have just passed
a bill that has made that explicitly
legal retroactively
but
back in 1963 that was a genuine
threat I guess
and so Bond
tosses that film
in the canal because no one can
know that James Bond
is anything other than chaste
there's also a very
funny shot so that the camera
pans up to indicate
that the film has ended but because they're in this
gondola against a green screen it just
looks like the gondola's sinking
and Bond just does like shadow puppets too
good lord
what a time
that's the movie
James Bond will return
in Goldfinger
a movie I'm genuinely looking forward to watching
hi everyone
Devin here
sadly at this exact moment during the recording
of our podcast
our dear leader and fearless showrunner Alice was silenced by the deep state,
and we lost the remainder of her audio.
Regretfully, we have had to cut the final 10 minutes of deep, interesting,
funny and insightful analysis that you know and love.
Fortunately, I am at liberty to disclose the results of our patented scum spectrum.
For smarm, we rated this movie a 3,
since Bond largely spoke to Kareem,
and so didn't have the time to be as smarmy as we expected.
For cultural insensitivity,
one scene in particular single-handedly raises this score to a 5.
Once again, Bond was very light on unprovoked violence, giving us a 2.
And as for misogyny, Bond's treatment of Tanya gives us a 6.
Thanks for listening, and my deepest apologies for this.
With any luck, this will be the first and last time we ever have to do this.
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Thank you, take care
and I love you.
Romantically.
Is that it? Should we cut that actually?