Kitbag Conversations - Episode 13: The Next Six Months

Episode Date: June 13, 2022

In a special extended episode, we caught up with our friend Cody. Cody is currently working with Task Force 31 (task_force_31) to help train, aid, and equip Ukrainian fighters heading to the front line. Additionally, we discuss: - The future in Ukraine  - projected global food shortage  - Wagner Group  - French foreign policy  - US mid-term elections  - And Aiden Aslin (@Cossackgundi)  Please consider following Task Force 31 on Instagram and donating at taskforce31.com 

Hello, everyone. Welcome back. This week's going to be a little different. We're going to get a little catch up from our friend Cody, who periodically writes and is often on the podcast. So, Cody, where have you been? Working on stuff. No. So, Matt and I kind of working on Croaton Report ran into some non-profit guys over in Ukraine. And one thing led to now I am working with Matt and a couple other guys. And we are, I don't know the best way to put this, dude. What would you call this? A training camp? We're not running it, but we're supporting it. But the guys over there who are with us. Anyway, go on to Instagram. Go ahead, type in task underscore force underscore 31 or go to taskforce31.com and go get you a nice donation

done and go get you a hat, a t-shirt, a mug, a sticker. Spend $200 on the Ukrainians because we are training up Ukrainians. That's right. We have all types of special forces, tier one operators. We've got Navy SEALs. We've got Army Rangers. I mean, we've got the works, baby. Everybody who was in the global war on terror that went over to Ukraine is at task force 31. It's just a bunch of angry, pissed off PTSD-ridden vets. But yeah, that's what I've been doing. If you go over there, you'll see some sweet pictures. We've got approval from the deputy mayor of Kyiv to help run a training facility. The team is headed by a former British special forces, NCO. He's been doing it for like 16 years. Really great guy. His name is Tom. And kind of the second in charge over there is

Gray. And those two guys have been really getting after it. We just sent our first batch of guys through training this week and they're off to the front line. Man, I don't know where to take it from that. I mean, I guess we could talk about kind of the total situation because I don't know if anybody's been on here. Has anybody been on here talking about Ukraine lately? On here. Last week, there was Daphne Westorf and Chase, but nothing way too analytical. Oh, man. Okay. Let's get into it then. So, I mean, there, I've seen a lot of information coming up of Ukrainians running out of ammo and guns. Have you seen any of that stuff lately? You can see a bunch of that. And a lot of it came out. And I think we talked about it before,

or definitely offline, where what did they call them, the Reddit battalion that showed up and everyone's like, yeah, you guys are war tourists. You're going to go chill in the rear because we don't have any weapons to give you. So, here's a stick. Hold this Mosin, like a checkpoint. Dude, yeah, they're running out of guns and ammo. In fact, the next iteration that we have come into the camp to train up with the boys at Task Force 31, from what I hear, it's one AK for five people. Talk to another guy today, actually, which I think it bummed him out because he's looking to donate, looking to help. And he's out of Lithuania. And he was surprised when he found out that they didn't have, like, M4s or AK, like, I mean, it's a mix of AK-74s and 47s that they have,

but like the Ukrainians are, I think they're starting to run into logistical issues, right? So, like, you've got Russian weapons on the front. You've got the American land lease coming up. And so, you've got 556, 762, and then you've got another batch coming up of the 545 for the AK-74. So, you've got three types of guns on the front line. All of them take a different caliber, ammo. Did the fucking guts of a 47 and a 74 take the same stuff? Do you know that? I don't know. Oh, man, that sucks. Yeah, but I mean, like, think about that from, like, a weapons maintenance point of view. I mean, ammo alone is going to be hard, because, I mean, you show up with a bunch of AK ammo, and it's like, well, what do you got? It's like, I got a whole truck load

of 762, and it's like all the guys with 74s and M4s. Yeah, they're like, fuck, you're like, oh, man, we don't have anything. Like, there's no ammo for us. I mean, I've seen a couple people have been running around with scars. Just because, you know, where would they find a scar? Or the fucking Afghan black market. Oh, yeah. Like, dude, that's, that's coming around. I know we got some shit for that, but I have heard some people talking about some black market deals with Afghan personnel, like there's like NVGs and helmets popping up. No shit. No shit, though, man. I got one for you, though. Somebody tried to tell us that they've got this premier training camp closer to ours or whatever. And they're like, yeah, man, we've got everybody. We've got like,

like all these Ukrainians, special forces, dudes and snipers training the Ukrainians. And we've got like Afghan commandos. We've got like nine Afghan commandos training the Ukrainians. I'm like, bro, fuck off. Like, you want to watch it be like just some A&A guy who that's exactly what it is. Dude, that is, that's a, that's a real thing. Fucking all of the guys at Task Force 31 are vetted. They have their DD 214s looked at the British guys. Tom is in charge of that. So we know everybody has seen everybody's paperwork. And so it's all, it's all clear. So we don't have that issue of like, I am an Afghan commander, like, bro, you are Afghan police, like fucking gotta hear but dude, it's, I think we're kind of getting to that point where donations are just

dried up as well too. So you've got the logistical issues of all these Americanized Western weapons and mixed with Russian weapons that have been there the whole time. You've got people showing up. I mean, you're always going to have, like you said, the reddit battalions. And then you got like, what the, we were just talking about, like the donations dried up. So it's like, it's the perfect storm. And I mean, it's not over yet. You can look at, looking at the donation side of it, just walking around the DC area. Every single Ukrainian flag was replaced by a pride flag. So I was like, oh, I guess on June 1st, everyone just stopped caring. Like,

Ukraine's like, and we could have saved our country if it wasn't for the LGBTQ plus community taking down flags. Like, dude, I was laughing about it. It's like, I guess they just didn't cut it to colors. No, I think at least six. Putin's like, Putin's like in the war room, like, yes. And then we will begin the summer offensive during Pride Month, because that's when the Ukrainian flags will come down. Like, yes, no, yeah, exactly. It's like four star generals planning around Pride Month. And like, this is where we get into some real incidents in territory, because we'll know, right? We'll know if the Russians are supporting this, you know, anti-Ukrainian movement, if Pride Parade is the best ever. So I will be down there

at Pride Parade, seeing how much money is spent on it. And if I think there's too much money spent on it, it's probably because of the Kremlin. 100%. This is like a Alex Jones fringe thought. Like, there was probably some, some FSB guy just sitting there, he's like, why don't we just wait until June? They kind of, they kind of chimp out every time. The virtue signal. Yes. And when they virtue signal, that is when the summer offensive begins. Like, oh, damn it. Like, they're so good at planning, dude. And then, and here we talk, did we talk about it? I know we talked about it on the sidelines, but not the pie cast midterms. Oh my God, is it not brutal? Every is coming up. And every American's pretty pissed off. And if

the entire world revolves around who got elected president here, and midterms are coming up, it's already war zone. We see it every day. Just looking at gas prices and looking at, you know, a school shooting every single day. And then there's some issues at home that people want to address. And they're going to go, who's Ukrainian? I don't care. Yeah, they do. They were on that last at all of about 100 days. Dude, we talked that far. Yeah, we talked about it. Like, it's going to like, time was on the side of the Russians in the beginning, if they can. And then we talked about it. I think I said that like, time is flipping into the hands of the Russians. Like the longer this goes on, the worse it's going to get in midterm. And we talked about

it. We called it midterms. Midterms are here, but in, did you spot on? And everybody's wonder, it started with Roe v Wade. That was the first shot was the Roe v Wade thing came up. And then the school shootings started to get publicized. Like it, I mean, there's school shootings in America and not to sound cat callous, but it's like almost every week. And so but a school shooting in America is categorizes anything that happens within like a five mile radius of a school. Yeah, they just lump all those into one basket. Well, it's way easier in this paperwork, if we just know. Oh, yeah, of course. Oh, my God. And then, oh, man, in not to mention the January 6 committee is like going hard in the paint. Like this is probably, and I

don't care what side you're on for politics. This is absolutely terrible. We are our attention span is like that of it. And like the January 6 and the guns and like, well, gas prices and then like LGBTQ and the kids and the guns. And it's like, bro, this is every two years, we go through fucking Groundhog Day of everyone losing their minds. And meanwhile, there's a war for Europe going on right now. It's insane. I mean, it is it is just just baffling and watching even on the British side of things where Boris Johnson just had his vote of confidence last week. They've been pretty bogged down with their own issues. And internally, European politics are pointing fingers and they're like, hey, Germany, fucking do something. They're like,

we'll just build the biggest military in Europe. They're like, that's not what we're talking about. Yeah, like, like Germany is like, we can't give you guns, Ukraine. Why? Well, because we need them for what we're about to do. Like, dude, and then I love that. Yeah, he bowled for round three. Like, you know, Bill, like, dude, it's, oh, my God, talking about Europe. Did you see that thing where Macron, like it was leaked that he tried to get the Ukrainians to just surrender land and like to appease Putin so that Putin didn't get embarrassed. Like, okay, first off, where was Macron when George Bush had that mission accomplished banner on that fucking aircraft carrier? Do you remember that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, we don't want to, we don't want a superpower to embarrass

George Bush coming in hot, fucking danger zone playing. We did it, mission accomplished. We beat Iraq. I think that came out, there was rumors about that, that Macron made up like a private phone called the Zelensky. He was like, he was like, hey, man, come on. Just surrender. Just give it to him. Yeah, yeah, not one step back. Dude, the French have two modes. It's either like completely surrender or completely kill everybody. There's no in between. I don't understand. And there's like, he's broke when it came to Mali. They were like, what? They spent too much time in Africa. They're like sunburned and shit. Came back. Did you talking about that? I was talking to a Frenchman the other day.

That situation out there is just bananas. But in Mali, what's going on out there? So the French were there for about 10 years and lost because they were doing too good of a job essentially. And the local governments were just not doing their portion. Essentially it was an Afghan situation where the local governments were like, oh, they're over there. And the French were like, why didn't you do anything? They're like, we wanted to wait till you got here. So we had more confidence in our abilities and one of those. And so after eight years, eight or nine years, yeah, about eight or nine years held G5 is what they call it, where it's like those former Western African French colonies from back in the day, but they still speak French. The French dump

a lot of money into education and financial system. It's still essentially like a quasi colony. They just took the label off, but just knowing how the French government operates. They were like, we're not leaving kind of like the Brits didn't West or Eastern Africa. But anyways, so the French were leaving. And so the day that I guess, and this is just one, this is like a single source report that I read says they take it with a grain of salt, but the Malayan government called Wagner and they're like, can you guys come here for a second? So those guys showed up to Molly and they were like, Hey, we have a hoodlum down the road. They're like, yeah, we'll be right back and like killed everybody. And they came back. They're like,

yeah, there's no more problem. And they're like, why couldn't the French do that? So they called the French the same day they were like French get out, you guys go kick rocks, you know, we're going to work with the Russian Wagner mercenary group. So nice. Yeah. So and it was essentially just like an Iraq or Afghanistan where every time an American convoy would get remotely hinted at being shot at that they would absolutely level a hillside or something. The French were just fucking ISIS and al Qaeda in the moderate. They were just they were going to town, but the local governments were like, no, you got to go. So the French are leaving, but they're dragging their feet with this withdrawal. And this is just me like analyzing here. They're dragging their feet

with the withdrawal because I'm pretty sure they're watching the Russians perform. Absolutely terrible. And they're like, Oh, no, they're slow. They're going to call us back as soon as we get home. So let's just keep all of our stuff here. And yeah, yeah. Yeah, because no one really talks about that part of the world where a lot of I forgot the name of the trail, but it's almost like a Ho Chi Minh trail is out there for insurgents that move from like the Horn of Africa. And then they go to Libya and like Niger, and then they shoot south and go hang out with the Govera. So that's kind of the area where the French are keeping both sides pinned down, like like a big dude holding two dogs down. But I was like, no one really talks about this and

you can't really find much. So I threw it at Instagram. I was like, Hey, if you anyone here knows about the French and Molly hit me up and this this Frenchman hit me up, he's like, what do you want to know? I was like, are you guys still there? And he was like, yeah. It's like, okay. I was like, is it because I was like, is it anything kinetic? He was like, no, nothing kinetic. We're just we're just waiting. I was like, okay, that's cool. That's all I need. Dude, that's, I mean, I know I watched this like one hour documentary on the French foreign legion and they are that's where they are is in Africa all the time. And they're basically to be in Algeria. And so after the Algerian Revolution, they moved to Corsica. But they were like, to be

a foreign legion, you have to be out of country. So like go fight somewhere. I don't care who's just between the country. And then yeah, yeah. And so it's like, that was a was watching a podcast with a guy who was in the the airborne unit of the foreign legion. And he was like, yeah, they they kind of take you out there, they rough you up in the African desert. And then, you know, they just want you to get to the point where you can kill mercilessly and all that stuff. And I was like, man, that's kind of crazy. Like, they just want to, you know, I mean, I understand like they beat you up, they give you shit gear because it's the foreign legion or whatever. But he was like saying in a way that like, the guys weren't picking up on on the podcast, like they didn't

understand. He's like, yeah, they send the legion to Africa all the time because of like our hard training and who we are, like internally. So that's why they send us to fight the Africans, because we can handle the emotional like Pat, like the emotional damage that comes with it. And I was like, oh, they send the legion there to fight child soldiers. Got it. Like, yeah, yeah, that's what. And then it's like, but dude, it's, I think that needs to be said because it's like people think, you know, Africa is like, oh, it's just a but like you said, not to undermine what you're pointing out. But it's like, it's, it's not just African and Middle Eastern terrorists. Like this is a way of life for them. And it's like 13, 14 year old kids getting in

firefights with the French foreign legion and the French peacekeeping force. I mean, I saw a video of like a Spanish commando force fighting in Africa and it was wild. I mean, they were out there going house to house, shooting the place up and it's like that. Oh yeah. And it's like they're mud huts too. So the bullets are going to go right through. So it's like, you're just fighting an empty or you're fighting with no cover, essentially. And it's like, man, that must suck to have to be fighting there. Like, I'm good on the French for taking that on. But I mean, I can't see like exactly like you said, I can't see Wagner group doing that well out there. And I mean, I guess maybe because it's a place where like, the strong survive, you know what I'm saying? Like they choppy,

like, take Cameroon, for example, like, they, they do genocide there, they cut off hands and it's terrible. And it's like, is Wagner the answer? Which is that's rough to say, man. It's like, would they speak that language? Like, Jesus, like, but it's wherever I said, it's that part of the world where everything's just gray. There's no yes or no. It's, it's just, it's fluent is a good way to put it. It's liquid. So it's also reading on that, like there's Western African countries, which are French, previous dominions, where during their midterms or presidential elections, they were riding around the streets with Russian flags, they were like, oh, slobberousia, slobberousia, you know, one of those. And then looking into Libya, because their current presidential elections

sometime this month, they haven't had one for some quite some time. And back in the day, like 10 years ago, 60% of Libya's export for oil, which is one of the biggest in Africa, was going to Europe. And as soon as the revolution kicked off, and it was a lot of their oil manufacturing was in the South and then the East, the Russians back, the Eastern government, whose name is Khalifa Haftar, no relation to me. And he's an American citizen who he was a tank commander for Gaddafi back in like the 80s. And he invaded in his year and lost, came back, and he was essentially like, go to Gulag and he's like, I'm going to Langley. So he came here, got super spun up, became an American bought a house. And then when the revolution kicks off,

he went back to take over the country. So big picture, maybe the Russians were thinking that they're like, Oh, the Americans can't spy on this guy in a circle, because he's an American. So they pretty much partnered with him and sent Wagner to secure all those oil fields. So it's like, Hey, I'm not smart. But if 60% of Russia's export of oil goes to Africa or Europe, and 60% of Libya's oil exports go to Europe, and the Russians buy both of those. Yeah, I think it's going to get really weird. But yeah, speaking about Wagner, it's just like, there's more of those guys than I initially thought, because I said, Oh, there was like, Oh, they're taking Wagner forces from Molly, they're sending them to Eastern Ukraine to train up the Donbass, whatever.

And I was like, Oh, that's cool. But then you look back, you're like, Oh, wow, there's hundreds of there's thousands of these guys. It's as a bus. Let's look this up. How many how many soldiers in Wagner? I mean, what are we saying? Like 10k? I'm gonna say 10k. Don't you prices right me? What's what's your guess? Show me 12. Yeah, like 1001, Bob. Like 1001 or whatever. How many soldiers are in Wagner? Maybe like 7500? I don't know. Um, size. It's actually, well, they got a couple hundred killed in Syria. 8000. Yeah, rest in peace. That was 8000. Pretty close to that one. Dude, they've got like a whole list. Dude, why have I never looked at the Wikipedia page for Wagner? This is intense. Like it's a war zone. No, it's not. It's like, I mean, like it's it's mercenaries.

It's like soldier of fortune, like, you know, s stuff. I mean, they're an evil mercenary group. Don't get me wrong. But it's like, dude, this go to the Wagner Wikipedia page. It's got like 13 link that 13 chapters. It's got a scroll bar that's like a half inch big. It's like, dude, I got to read this someday. There's like they've got like allies and opponents and like they're like their own little country. This is insane. And don't I know people are going to be in the comments when we publish this, like, oh, you didn't know about Wagner? Like, no, dude, don't read their Wikipedia page. Like, this is kind of insane. Like, it's everyone always goes in on Blackwater and Academy and Trip canopy. But it's like, oh, no,

these guys are actually like what Blackwater had that one incident may or may not have instigated the battle of Fallujah, but Wagner's out here. Just let's look at a list of battles here. Oh my God, it's huge. They've been in Mali, the insurgency in Cabo Delgado, Venezuela, presidential crisis, the Sudanese revolution. Dude, these guys are like everywhere. Oh my God. Dude, they're all over Syria, war in Dibass, the car civil war. What the hell? But yeah, the Central African Republic. Wow. That was the ones where they were rolling around with the bikes. They were like, get a load of this. Dude, these guys live fast, eat ass. Like, they are the definition of like, I mean, like, think about that. Here you are, a Russian teenage boy, right? You're like

16, 17, 18. Your, you know, your, your grandma is yelling at you. Your dads and uncles and moms all live in the same, like four, four room apartment, you know, the kitchen, the living room, two bedrooms. That's it. One bathroom for all 12 of you. And Wagner comes up and is like, hey, you want to just go do whatever you want around the world. No consequences. And like, hell yeah, I do. Get me that. Get me out of here. And then yeah, all of a sudden you're in the Central African Republic, just committing war crime after war crime, like tic-tacs, like Jesus, man. Let's go to the, and look at us just ramble about Wikipedia. The founder, Colonel Dmitry Utkin, also known as Wagner, and then you go to his Wikipedia, it's like, yeah, Dmitry Utkin is

believed to have founded Wagner group. Oh, by the way, he has four orders of courage medals. It's what? Dude. Dang. It's, yeah, he's the Steven Seagal of mercenaries. He's just- Don't do that. A slick back pony dance. Dude, I could see it. Oh my God. The Entiment's goatee. The Entiment's doughnut goatee. Just. Yeah. Well, like think about it right now, right? So like we're talking and like, you know, the viewers are listening, probably driving to work, driving somewhere. Like, dude, if you're going to be sitting behind a desk for eight hours, just go look at Wagner group.

And then like Google image search, Dmitry Utkin, like they've got a picture of him in Africa in what looks like a parachute. It's a really fuzzy photo. Yeah, just like decked up and dang, dude, he is all over the place. Look at these cool guys in Libya. Yeah, just, oh man, this is probably such a good read because I didn't even know that they were hanging around in the Central African Republic. And then they got, it was an honest, honest to God here. It's literally soon as those Afghans fill off an American aircraft leaving Kabul, Russia's like, hey, go to Africa. Yeah. And they're in like insurgency in Cabo, Delgado, like these guys are, this is, I mean, I don't like, oh, this is awesome. Like it's like a real nice,

like, dude, you can make a serious Netflix villain out of these guys. Like they're everywhere. Like one diamond too. Yeah, dude, seriously, bring it in. It is, if you, yeah, so if you're bored and you're like, oh man, I'm so tired of Facebook and I don't want to like be in the office looking like I'm not working and I need to, you know, keep my job because the health insurance go on to the Wagner Wikipedia page, not even ever gone to, sorry to interrupt, but have you ever gone to the Wagner Telegram page? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember when the war first started, you went in there and you're like, dude, this place is, you were in there before the war, I think. I crept in there when they were at like 5,000, like subscribers. And I was just like,

these kids are insane. It's like me with my limited Russian reading this, I was like, yeah, I know what they're talking about. Yeah. It's, so they are, they were the reverse side of the metal and now they're reverse side of the metal. So they just completely dropped the Z, but Yeah. So wait, it was, it was reverse side of Z metal, like M E T A L. So met, yeah. And so, so like, okay, when was it, was it called that before the war? Oh, no, no, no, no, metal M E D A L. So, yeah, it was like that before the war. And then it was like creeping up on the late February and it just became Z. And I was like, hmm, interesting, which and then all of a sudden you start to hear, oh my God, what? I'm getting a Z tattoo on my forehead

with like going super punk rock. Like, I was, so I did a genealogy found on 10% Russian. I was like, I'm going to go super punk rock and get like a Z tattoo with an arrow pointing at it going, no, bad. No, bad. No, bad. No, bad. I think those genealogy tests are fake. They just want your, they just want your data. They just want your biological data. So they can sell it like, look at all these fake motherfuckers from the South drinking sweet iced tea all day. You can smell the diabetes in the vial. Yeah, they're drinking bar stools, pink Whitney and punching through windows. You're like, yeah,

that's my target market. That's some good data right there. High quality. Like they're like managing, they're like going through the spit, trying to like hone in the Popeyes chicken recipe. Like, they'll love this. I know. And up and get a whiff. They're like, is this 11 herbs and spices? Jesus, dude. And that is pretty funny. But what do you, and then you gotta, you got another thing to explain because the, yeah, the shadow band, like, have we, have you talked about that on the podcast yet? Um, we did a little bit the last time you were on, but I think it was broken because I got a lot of it just not posting anything, just not doing anything. I think just kind of

blessed off that whole era. But yeah, it was ridiculous. It was, yeah, it was getting those like, you do the week roundups or like, you got a hundred followers this week, you lost a hundred and one followers this week. I'm like, come on, Instagram, like, it was yo-yoing. And then something else with Instagram that I've noticed is out of nowhere, like on the backup where I don't follow a lot of people, there's a count set pop up and it's like promoting like, like a Star Wars Disney cruise. And I was like, what? And I go back and they were like, what the hell did I follow this? So it's like, Instagram forcefully making you follow things and then makes you unfollow other pages without letting you know. So then you're scrolling,

you wouldn't notice. But once you go over the icon, it's like, oh, okay. So you saw the story and what gets them publicity, but it's like, oh, so you want to see more of this. But it's a reverse shadow band. It's just like in your face. Yeah, it is. And I think we were, we were talking about it offline, like talking about it, like outside the podcast about how we may have fallen in with the gun community. Because for those of you who don't know, the gun community has been purged, essentially off of social media. And because we post pictures of people with guns and videos, we probably got put in the do not touch basket until we figure out what. So maybe you got pulled

out of the basket. Like, oh, he's, he's just a news reporter. He's not a gun page. Like, you got saved because your mag, your mag drills suck. Because it was just a 10 round air 15 mag. Can you do that? Well, like, I was about to say, well, like the first person I thought of was like a gun bunny who was like, you know, I make my living off of selling gun parts to people on Instagram. I just showed a little little cleavage. And then, you know, she gets shadow banned with us. And like her entire life is ruined. She's just like, oh, no. But the other thing I was thinking was when I said the mag change thing, I was like, man, can you imagine, like, we all go in the shadow band bucket. We're sitting there. And this one kid

who is trying to make it as a gun Instagram guy is like pulled out of a basket. They're like, yeah, he's, he's a gun Instagram guy, but he sucks. He's not going to do any harm. And they just like unbent, like, unshadowed pan. Like, oh, your mag, your split time's suck, bro. Like, fuck it. And it's so funny. Are you going those? Because it's like anything gun related. So it's like, if it's in the shape of a pointed finger, you get banned. And it's like, you go to those, those UK airsoft pages where kids are like 16 year old kids are running their weapon reload drills. And they're like fumbling it. They're like, this guy's clearly not a threat. Well, in my airsoft team, I'm like in the recon element. So, you know, I'm actually pretty good.

Like, you're the best. Wow, that, that says a lot. Okay. Have you, I mean, we're, we're cutting it hot. We're on the cutting edge of news, you know, Garin thumb, right? Garin hot. Garin thumb. Six hours ago or seven hours ago, he just talked about military simulation. BB wars or pellet guns. What am I thinking? Airsoft. Jesus. Yeah, they're, they're called mil sim west. They're 40 hour airsoft events. And he went to one and did a review on it. And I've always been looking at those and I've been like, man, it'd be really cool to take a bunch of like, I don't want to take like Navy SEALs or anything. I want to take like Marine recon due to have been like sitting in like the same spot for 48 hours. Cause these events, these mil sim

west events are only 40 hours long and they're getting popular. Like you're going to start seeing them a lot more because gun tubers are starting to go to them. But I was like, man, it'd be really funny to go there with like 20 or 30 Marine recon guys and just not sleep for 40 hours and just do constant ops on teenagers. And you put up some booby traps and you're like, you know, trip wire and this guy trips and snaps his AK in half. Man, my mom was going to be so mad. I bought this with the critical. It's like, mom, you bought me a present. Just shooting star clusters at him. But yeah, that's pretty funny. I thought of that because

of the shadow band. But yeah, if you guys get a chance, check out those mil sim west events. They're kind of crazy. But the shadow band stuff was very real and it's not going away because midterms and way worse. So I think off the pod, you and I are like shooting the shit, prophesizing of what's going to happen. And I think it was you who were like, bro, we have, it's just like a perfect storm. Like you're talking about earlier where you're like, there's a school shooting and then they're going to come after the guns and then the Instagram pages are going to come down. And then it's, it's regardless of, you know, regardless of political affiliation or like a complete side is being undermined

and told to shut up. And so it's look at it either way. You're like, that's pretty dystopian. And then smaller pages or smaller communities are like, Oh, I'll just make my own. I'll just make my own social media and it gets immediately hijacked by all kinds of terrorist network. Dude, have you ever been on the truth? We should be on there. We should be on there. Thetruth.com social media, like Trump social media. And we talked about this last podcast, but like Trump is getting bigger and bigger and bigger and that war coffin. Cause like nobody hears about him, but he's over there on that truth media site. And he's just getting bigger and bigger and bigger and that like that war chest of like 130 million, 100, whatever. Let me,

let me make sure I'm not blowing smoke up anybody's ass with this number, but like the Trump reelection campaign. Like you think like this, these midterms are a joke compared to what's coming in 2024. Like it is about to go down and like, okay. So prediction time then, I guess it is July. We've got what five more months until November. We got election, you know, election day November. What are your thoughts? What do you think is going to happen between now and November? Kind of like shooting from the hip here. Support for Ukraine is going to come, not completely, but rapidly reduce. It's going to get, it's going to get really political. And they're like, why are we there? It's going to turn into like a Afghan withdrawal situation

where they're like, what were we there in the first place? Like what, who are the Russians? Aren't they like Dolph Lundgren? And then it's going to kind of do that, that American 180. They were like, well, maybe the Russians are justified. And so it's going to get really politicized that way. Because Trump's that weird third party outlier. And I'm not, haven't been following his anything in a while. But the amount of Trump flags I see everywhere is kind of an indicator. Or if you drive through the Midwest or any of those states that went blue, but they were pretty hardcore red, you drive around and you see a bunch of Trump flags, they're massive. So you're like, hmm, I feel like, you know, Rand Paul is not getting elected anytime soon.

Dude, okay. So my turn. So June. Okay. So it's only been like, what a month or two since Roe v. Wade was announced, like the Roe v. Wade week. Let's look that up because that's when like I said, that's when it started. Okay. So anywhere or was that just like an FF, a little false flag? I don't know. But that was like the start of, okay, so I was, wait, May 3rd. Yeah, I think it's like May 3rd, May 4th. So it's only been, dude, it's only been a month since this all started. It's been a little over 30 days since that, because that was kickoff in my mind. Like that was the football game beginning.

We still got four more months of the, or five more months of this. Well, it was, that was announced the same weekend. There was that DC shooter who went on four shanties. Like you guys want to see something funny and then just lit up a 7-11. No, Jesus. And then yeah, it was, that was a weird one. But yeah, there was a lot that happened like that 48 hour window. Dude, Russian psyops, Russian psyops convincing incels all over America to shoot us up. I mean, that's all it is. So I think exactly like you said, by this time next month, support for Ukraine is going to be dead. And we're, it's not going to look pretty.

And then it's going to be August after that. You're going to start seeing, it's just going to get worse. The Ukrainian war is just going to get worse. I think we're going to see a lot more political announcements like the Roe v. Wade stuff. Like I think we're probably going to see some like gun movement. Some bill has to get passed, right? Like somebody has to pass a bill soon. But the Democrats can't really pass anything. So it's just a lot of jaw jacking, nothing happening. It's, so I don't, I predict nothing's going to really change politically. But not at all. It just does that, that ebb and flow of yo-yo-ey or what's a good term,

like a circle jerk where it's like nothing really happens. Yeah. It just, it just keep going. And then, yeah, dude, it's just going to have to, Ukraine's going to die down. Politics isn't really going to move much. I think we're going to start seeing a little bit more Trump action, but I think the big thing that's going to decide like a big key moment in the midterms, Elon Musk buying Twitter. Uh, yeah. And they're trying tooth and nail not to let him move as fast as he wants. Why is that? So it's, I don't, um, little backstory. Project Veritas has this undercover journalist I like break into. Oh, well, they essentially go out and honeypot people. And

they were like, Oh, here's a drink. Tell me how you really feel. And so they grabbed up a few Twitter executives, like really high up on the chain of food chain. And they were like, yeah, we don't like Elon Musk because he's pretty, he got really pro free pro free speech. And we're pretty communist here. We don't really don't agree with any political ideology outside of like ours. And they're like, we're supposed to be nonprofit. And he's over here waving his dollars around. And we're really trying to push a message here. And they were like, Oh, is that what accounts keep getting banned? They were like, Oh yeah. Yep. That's exactly why we do it. And so then they gave it to Elon Musk. And they were like, they went on Twitter. They were like, Oh,

hey, these are your employees, by the way, they like sent it to him. It was pretty funny. But then after that, it was a, it's because Elon Musk is a troll. Yeah. And just the status quo does not like that. Where who else has the power to ruin the entire stock market for 20 minutes? Yeah, seriously, right? It's like Dogecoin, boom to the moon. And then yeah, millionaires overnight. And he operates through Twitter. I don't see him on Facebook. Just like Panera was good today. And he shoots it out. But it was, yeah, it's, there's a lot going on with old Musk. But that's, I mean, that's, that's, that's probably the next big key to decide where it's going to go is like, because Elon Musk is a free speech absolutely. It's like, he's like,

I don't care what you say, like just say it. And so if, if Musk actually buys Twitter and turns it into that, dude, it is going to be insane. I remember when Trump got elected in 2016 and I was like, I don't even know what this means for us. Like I was just joining the army. I was like, what is this going to be like? And then the next four years was this wild, crazy ride of just Twitter rants. I remember like sitting there in Afghanistan when Trump was like, Hey, we're pulling out of Iraq, we're gonna, we're gonna get out of there. And my buddy was in Iraq and I'm in Afghanistan. And I'm just like, bro, is this for real? And he's like, yeah, I don't know. And that was like four years of our lives was just the country was ran by Twitter. And it's like, okay,

I guess we'll just figure it out. And it was like, our president called Rosie O'Donnell that and like, dude, it really just depends on, and this isn't like a liberal rant. Like, oh my God, Trump's crazy. No, it was just fucking baller. Like, it was just like, is this real life? Is this what it's come to? And so it is a pretty hilarious. And this is just genuinely funny, just giving all your political opponents goofy nicknames. Oh, yeah, dude. Oh, my God, the one, the one that so cracks me up is Elizabeth Warren. He called her Pocahontas and campaigned the Trail of Tears. I remember that. Oh, my God, I remember that. Just looking back, I was like, God damn, that was insane.

Dude, oh God, I at least hope he runs in 2024, just because him up there on the stage, like calling Ted Cruz a pussy and shit like that. And Ted Cruz is just like, I don't, I don't know what to say. I don't. Like, yeah, did you watch the new Shane Gillis stand up? No. Oh, so Shane Gillis, he's the guy who was hired on SNL on a Friday and fired on a Monday. Something he said on his podcast, but he was talking on a standup. He's like, yeah, man, after Trump, there's no way I could watch politics seriously again. Like, I've never seen a guy win an argument without stating a single fact. He was. Yeah, it was wild. And yeah, it's, based on this conversation alone, it's like, I'm pretty sure a lot of people are having

this exact same like riff run around. And it's, if I'm seeing more Trump flags than Biden stickers, it's a good way to put it like our cars. That's kind of, I don't know, it's weird. The one thing that somebody said, if you don't watch Painkiller already, they did talk about this. He was like, Biden's doing okay. I mean, he's not doing bad. He's not doing good. He's kind of handling the Ukraine situation well. I mean, me personally, I just want to go help out maybe to my part. But I mean, he's got a country, right? He can't commit a whole country to war on a whim. He's working with NATO. He's giving supplies. He's doing the Lend-Lease Act. Like, Biden's doing good, but he doesn't take credit for anything. He doesn't know how to like build

a party base. He's more of a bureaucrat than he is a like a hype man, which is like all Trump was. Like the market would go up 800 points and Trump would be like, you're like that. That's what daddy did for you. And then like the next day, the market would go down. He's like, and that's why we need to fight China. Okay, because China just took down 400 points and that's where we're going to get. Go ahead. Oh, yeah. I was going to say like real quick. China is another big topic because all those quarantine footage of Shanghai are coming out and that's terrifying. And people are posting it to Twitter, but every time anyone mentions China, it's immediately nuked. So it's like, yeah, we lost our first YouTube page because of that. 100%. Yeah. For the listeners out there,

this completely started off as a different side project. We made one pod episode about China. It was completely nuked, like page gone. So it was, it was weird, like viewership for I don't even get 10. I watched it four times. It's, it's, it was, but that's another big thing where the Chinese governments get going pretty hard in the paint and that once, what was it two weeks ago, a month ago, three weeks ago, where Biden said that he would defend Taiwan if the Chinese did anything. And the next day, the department of state website out of nowhere said, we do not support Taiwanese independence. So whoa. Yeah. And Northern provisions through that went out there. I want to say it with him where, yeah, there was like some serious

damage control came out after that statement where China's like, are you sure? And Twitter was the first place to talk about it, but they kept getting shut down because it used the words China and or CCP and or, you know, Chairman Xi or, you know, Winnie the Pooh, it was everything. Yeah, those targeted words were just nuked. So yeah, again, going back, Twitter's going to be probably really big because out of the big market, Facebook's the biggest one, of course, and then it's Instagram and then it's Twitter and then it's like Snapchat. Really? Yeah, Twitter is not the biggest one anymore because the censorship got so bad. I'm surprised Snapchat's on it.

Yeah, of course Reddit's up there, but let's look up top social medias. There we go. Okay, of course, but top social media platforms in 2022. Yeah, it's like, are you looking at like Buffer? Book, YouTube, WhatsApp, Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat. ReChat, TikTok. Yeah, Twitter, number 10. So it's the one that it's been actively dying. And so it's below LinkedIn. Come on. Ooh, LinkedIn sucks. LinkedIn sucks. LinkedIn is just full of like CEOs and vice presidents

virtue signaling. Like today, I saw a homeless man and I gave him a donut. Turns out that man wasn't actually, you know, poor. He was just, you know, middle class and he said, thank you. Stay hopeful, stay hungry. I was at a 7-11 yesterday and there was a homeless guy outside, he's like, man, can I have a dollar? And I was like, no, I won't buy you or I won't give you a dollar, but I'll buy you anything you need. What do you need? And he was like, I'm gonna be honest, man, I need two forms. It's like, thanks for being honest. But yeah, that's a lot of what LinkedIn is. But yeah, just, well, looking at Reddit, if we go in like full zeitgeist of everything, Reddit was the first one that came out with those moderators, moderators, whatever,

sort of like censoring things. So it's like stuff like are you cray and can talk about whatever they want, but are Russia can't? And so it was one of those weird oxymorons. And then it went to Twitter because Twitter was huge back in like 20, 2015, 16, 17, they really shot themselves in the foot because they were just nuking every account that said anything. And so Facebook's always going to be number one. I don't see them going anywhere. The revenue is 85.9 billion or 96 billion dollars. And that's as of today. So the next up is YouTube at 28.8. It's just, there's no comparison. And yeah, it's, I didn't know that's crazy to me. Like I didn't know Snapchat was still up there,

but it is, it's a thing. That's crazy. And it, it used to, do you think it fell down because Trump left? Like Trump was all over that Twitter, man. No, there was a gradual wave of, yeah, it was just like a slow rolling snowball or was just building momentum and like January six last year was the big one that nuked a bunch of, bunch of pages, but it was, that definitely wasn't it. It was a growing trend. And so you just go on to, you have what, 250 characters on Twitter to get a complete thought across and you can't edit it. You're like, that's going to haunt you. So I think a lot of people got off Twitter because you made a really bad and sensitive joke back in 2008. And then people are like, Oh, you did this. So everyone's

like, well, Twitter is my number one enemy. So let me just get off Twitter. Yeah. So get up. You're basically preventing yourself from shooting yourself in the foot by deleting your Twitter. That's a smart move. Like, I think it also came around the same time as the, that big canceling wave, like canceling celebrities and the me too movement. And a lot of people are like, yeah, I was saying very, not okay things on Twitter 10 years ago. So yeah, it was, it was a growing thing. And I think that's why Elon Musk bought it. He was like, I could say this. Yeah, let's go right back to where Jack Dorsey started. So I got this. Like, dude, that's, it's like buying my space and it's dying days, I guess, like, okay, that's,

that's your move, not mine, but your money, not mine, but buying the last blockbuster for 10 grand. Yeah. Turn this bamboo around like, you know, but what that's so crazy that even, even now, like, as I sit here, like, I stand by that, like if, if Elon Musk gets Twitter and puts a new engine in it and breves it up, I really think that it's going to be a key decisive moment in our political history, which is insane that a South African who likes launching rockets into space buying a social media site determines who our next congressmen and women are. Like, that's, that's a Lovecraft novel, man. Yeah, that's, that's, it's kind of disappointing, isn't it? It's not even Lovecrafty. And it's like, oh, that's a, that's a crappy concept. Like, why would, why would that

matter? But it does. And I mean, like you said, it's all about, I mean, Ukraine support is just dwindling every day. And so whoever controls the narrative controls what's important. And so it's, yeah, that's the deciding factor. And then going back to it, like, what's it going to look like over the coming months, you know, you got Elon Musk buying Twitter, you've got a fuel shortage, dude, I can't. Another guy who works in the Karatana report, like newsroom in the newsroom, the wheat shortage out of Ukraine. That's going to be terrible. Let's build, let's build on that one. So looking into it, and, you know, our friend really got my mind thinking about it. So when you put them up, both Russian, Ukraine together, they're

the largest distributor of wheat to the whole planet. And their number one customer is not the US or France or South Africa. It's countries like Egypt and Syria and Iran and Iraq's a big one. And if you look in the map, it's every single country where the US has a major military presence. And so if these people aren't getting food, and all the food is being stored in the US, they're going to get pretty anti US. So let's take this up further. China's been stockpiling food for a long time. They have a lot of people and they're big historical issues with famine. So they're like, we will never have mass starvation again. But the current Chinese Communist Party went, Oh, hold on, I got an idea. There's no food going to Egypt. And they

own the Suez Canal. Yeah, let's just partner with, with Egypt. What are people going to use the Cape of Good Hope? No, they're going to still want to go through the Suez Canal, because that's where all the trade's going through. So the Chinese, and they, nothing announced it, nothing has been announced, it's completely speculative. But I feel like they're going to go out and try to make some weird deals with Egypt. They're like, okay, yeah, we will give you food for the next six months. You give us access to the port, to the Suez Canal. And like, is your strong arming these countries? It's almost like the Belt and Road Initiative, but for food instead of for strong arming these economically stricken African nations. But yeah, and so all those countries where the U.S.

are not going to get food here soon. And the U.S. are going to go like, Hey, I have my own problems to deal with. I think we have something like three to six months worth of food reserve in the U.S. before it comes down to the wire. And China has 18 months, I want to say. So in countries in Europe have like two, it's they really don't have much because a lot of them have are import based. So those countries where the U.S. have that military presence are like Jordan or something where there's five out of guys, they're not going to be very pro U.S. If everything gets really bad because everyone's talking about and you and I have talked about this. Later this year, the World Health Organization already said that there's going to be like,

get ready to not have Christmas like a Christmas goops like across the board. It's going to get pretty bad. So yeah, I mean, it is a strategy and a half. I mean, it's the bread basket of Europe, Ukraine. And so I mean, I've seen videos of them blowing up. They're aiming for like the storage units, they're aiming for the fields, they're aiming for like basically the Russians are taking all the wheat and the grains and then blowing up as much of everything else they can to get people to stop. And so going back to like what's going to happen over the next few months, like that's going to be a big one over the next 30 to 60 days, like everybody's going to start running out of food in those poor countries near Ukraine that bought the wheat. Like yeah, I know they said

it was mostly African countries that did it. So African countries who kicked out the French government and bought Russian mercenaries to make the other parties play nice. They're really going to want to rely on those Russian mercenaries to do the dirty work. Yeah, it's going to get very bad very fast. And this is, you know, again, completely speculative. We could just sit here and be analysts for a minute and kind of go, yeah, analysts, that was deadly course of action. But maybe grabbing a bunch of tough chinned Russian mercenaries to fight child soldiers in all of these countries and they start going into revolution, they're going to go like, I need more of these because I can't even trust my own army. So I mean, yeah. And so I think it's

going to be cool, dude. That is good. That's a well played. Good game at chess right there. It's just me in the back with a cigarette, slow clap. And I was like, okay, all right, that was good. Like that was a good game of chess right there. Dang, dude. So there is, yeah, there's going to be mass starvation. Dude, it's going to get real bad. Because I mean, which country do you think is going to break first off the top of your head for supporting Ukraine? Once the infighting in Africa starts up, the hunger, all that stuff, which European country quits first? European. I was going to go Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia? That doesn't count. Which country in Europe? Probably France, I'm going to be honest. Like, Macron is really, he was dropping

the war bell to get reelected and defeated Marine Le Pen, who was an outlier herself. We could talk about her for for hours, but he won. And then immediately it was like, hey, hey, Zelensky, just give him what he wants. Just roll over because he was wearing that bad ass French parachute hoodies in the office, trying to channel his inner, inner comedian from Ukraine. But he really seems to have sidestepped the support to Ukraine. And then won't hold like, because the Brits left. And so it's the Germans in the French, and they seem to be on two completely different, like two sides of the same coin, but it's in the other pocket. So they're the ones kind of running the show. And it seems like, and this is again speculative, that they're going to start

pulling back because they're going to go like, Oh, we're still doing this. Like, come on, we also get a gas gas from the Russians. And everyone's pissed off at the Germans because they get 80% of their gas from the Russians. And in all, most American analysts always go, yeah, the Europeans did not listen to us post World War two, they said, don't get dependent on the Russians. And they did. And they're like, why are we in this situation? Like, hey, guy, but yeah, I think France would be the first one. I don't see, yeah, does Spain does do anything worth of significance to this? No, it's the French like, and they have the biggest military in Europe, and they have all those weapons, they have all these hard trained boys coming back from Mali,

potentially. So I mean, yeah, and but the thing is, is like the food shortage in Africa is going to cause uprising, guns shooting, and their guys are still in Africa. And like you said, Wagner is there. So they're and they're doing a good job in the eyes of the Africans. So it's like, they're going to get booted out of Africa, all this terrorist nonsense in Africa is going to start bleeding into Europe. And like you said, I agree with you, I think the French might be the first to quit. Yeah, so remember when ISIS got big, the first target was Paris, and they just lit that bitch up. So it's every time there's any major issue that goes on, it's always for some reason, it always starts in France. It's I think it's because it's the most it's

the biggest country on that part of the world. And it's more like accepting to like, they're not going to Poland, because they don't take immigrants. So you're like, let's just go to France, where they'll set you in your own little community until they do all the paperwork. They're like, no, you show up. And then because like, you got to take a plane or a boat to get to get to England. But yeah, let me just drive a tractor into a crowd of people and, you know, Marseille. So it's yeah, I don't know. So I have to look at, yeah, 100%. But we also have to look at the French. And I guess the German too, where did their food come from? Where do they get their water? Do they have water? Because water is a big thing. Because I say Saudi Arabia, because

there's cholera outbreaks in Yemen, because there's no water, like there's no clean water. And so if they just had that spill over into Saudi Arabia, like no, they had their own things to worry about, not something going on between a few Slavic neighbors. So yeah, seriously, it's about the shit's about to hit the fan. And so it's probably what do you say, like 30, 60 days, and then everything's going to start getting worse and worse. And I mean, the Ukrainians are kind of on the offensive right now, but it's only going to get worse with time, because we've already said time is not on their side. As the food shortage grows, everybody in Africa starts to go hungry, which that's a no good. But the next one is Friday,

the stock market took a 800 point hit. And we all know that that thing's about to pop. And once that thing pops, oh man, the United States is going to stop giving the average American is going to stop giving a shit about a lot of things really quick. And I know the Democrats right now are trying to keep that thing, they are duct taping the economy together and WD fording it right now, because if it doesn't last till midterms, like they're screwed, like everybody's going to vote Republican. And so but I seriously do think that the economy is going to crash in the next probably 16 or 90 days, definitely before midterms, you're going to see a crash. The most historic time for stock market crashes is in the fall. And we're about to

head into that. And it's usually before November. So the US economy is definitely going to crash. And like I said, probably 16, 90 days. So sometime between September, October, maybe. Analysts I've seen and read are predicting that gas prices across the country on average is going to be like six plus by August. Yeah, that's, you know, I was a, I listened to comedy podcasts and everyone likes a joke. They're like, yeah, but then by midterms, they're going to be like, hey, man, we got it down to $4. How do you like that? They're like, what? No, I want $2. Like, oh, that's a good joke. Dude, it's, it's just, I mean, houses, interest rates for home loans went through the roof this, these last couple of months. And so the housing market has

just like kind of floated into space. Like houses, like how about my house two years ago? And I've made like, it went up $100,000. That's why I'm moving right now. Like that's a blue skidoo before the value of this house drops. But yeah, it's insane. And then the interest rates went up so nobody can get a home loan or they don't want to because interest rates suck. So all these houses around where I live, they're just like lowering prices. So the housing market, it's, it's really like what's going to cause the American economy to crash. And then once that happens, bro, there's going to be no support for you. They're going to be like, dude, there'll be people going to Russia like how much is gas? I got, I got more important shit to do than worry about some war. We've been

in war for the last 20 years and have Danny stand in Iraq. I don't care about that. What I care about is how much is gas here. Like walk up and they're like, Oh, you guys are drinking gas with breakfast. Brother man, I hear it's 50 cents over there. Dude, the minute the average American finds out that gas is like 50 cents in Russia. They're like, we need a peace treaty. Are they a NATO? Like we should put them in NATO. Not even they're going to be like, they're going to go. What time is it? What year is it? 2022? 91, 2001. Yeah, let's go back to Iraq. Yeah, right. Hey, right. You're looking pretty good over there. Like, no, please.

It's just like this, this kid with polio and they're like, I'm going to go fuck his ass. That's, that's all I compared like the war on terror too is like we had like the Russians and Chinese like standing on the world stage, like we will stand our ground against the United States. And like, if you imagine like this is like kids in a playground, like the Chinese are like, we're going to beat you up America. If you come over here, we're going to put our foot up your ass. And then America goes, oh, yeah, we'll watch this. And it goes. Oh, it's like, oh, yeah, watch this and they beat up a handicap. Just baseball bats, Iraq and the head, like you like that. That's what I do to you. Yeah, you want to see full on touchables.

Just proceeds to beat the shit out of the, you know, the Afghanistan kid for 20 minutes straight. Like, I can go all day. I can go all day. Some congressman from Chicago goes like, hey, it's better to be a good guy with a gun or it's better to have a kind word and a gun than just a kind word. Like, just be honest here. Did the you remember you probably don't, but it was Mitt Romney and he was laughed off the stage. And I think it was 2012 when Obama was running for reelection and Mitt Romney told the world the next biggest threat to the world is Russia. Oh, yeah, that one resurfaced recently in Obama. You would look in the face. He's like, he's like, Hey, are you a few chromosomes deficient, man? What are you talking about?

Like, you're stupid. And then two years later, they took Karmia and then they took the Don Bass and now we're sitting here like maybe Mitt Romney and his magical underwear might be right. Like, we owe that guy an apology. Like, dude, what a quick so kind of completely just just segue that we're on a complete enough different train now. Why would the Russians want to execute their only leverage over anything? Oh, I know who we're talking about you. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, this gets the three most or Cossack Gandhi, Sean Penner, he was like, yeah, active volunteers and they got charged for being war tourists and war criminals, they're getting sentenced to death. And it was like, why would you do that? If these guys go missing, they know what happened.

Unless Putin wants to swing in and go like, I saved these men. Okay, all right, I'm not that bad of a guy. Like, I mean, bro, they, I, this is such a touchy touchy guy. Yeah, it is. I was reading it when it came out and I was like, what? It's like, why? But then you're like, okay, the only reason they're still alive is because one, they're British and then two, everyone knows who they are. So yeah, it's like, how many Ukrainians have got a fair trial when they get rounded up in Mariupol? I don't think any. Yeah, I mean, that's a good point. That's a really good point. I didn't even think about that, but it's like, you know, it's all for showmanship. It's not real. And I mean, all the people who died in Mariupol, there's like mass graves of tens of thousands of

people. Yeah, I, first off, they joined the Ukrainian military. They are not war tourists. They were Ukrainian Marines, airborne Marines, in fact. But I just don't, that whole situation, they were caught up in, in Mariupol with Azov and the Marines kind of semi working together. It's, it's one of those things that we haven't seen in a very, very long time of all out warfare. And people don't understand, like a lot of people are like, yeah, I know World War Two. I've read about the 101st and General Patton and the first, the first Marine division, the Guadalcanal. Like, but dude, if you look at the Eastern front of World War Two, it is hell on earth. It is. The Russians lose 28 million. Dude, it's three. Well, the thing is, is like,

I studied it in college a lot because somebody told me, like one of the military professors there was like, did you know that like 75% of German soldiers died? Because some kid was like, yeah, we won World War Two. He's like 75% of Germans died on the Eastern front. He's like, we never, the Russians fought three army groups. We fought like half of one. And I was like, what? And he's like, yeah. And so I dove into it, but it is just from top to bottom, just one of like a war of pure hatred. And it's not just because, you know, oh, Nazis are brutal. It's like, no, they, they really didn't in war. If we think about like the German military in war, they weren't really that bad. But when it came to the Bolsheviks, it was like, this is going to be

a war of complete genocide, like you're either dying or like your people are dying, or my people are dying. And the Russians haven't lost that, like that train of thought. So that leads me into another topic. So I've been doing a lot of research into Stalin. And during the Battle of Stalingrad, he refused to let the civilians evacuate because he thought it would make the soldiers want to fight harder to protect them. So just like Mary Opal, there was that siege in a, so if these, and let's just talk like a brainwashed Russian soldier is liberating Mary Opal, and they are actively fighting harder to save those people. But the Ukrainians are like, let them leave. And they're like, no, where are they going to go to your land? No. So just that weird,

and I always do that, a piece of together. It's like, you can't play poker with a chess player. You're like, it's a completely different way of thinking. And that's what we're realizing right now is that the entire Western world is like, like I was saying, this is, this is fucking Eastern Front World War II. Like, somebody's going to die and a lot of death. And it's just, so I just, when we talk about Kossak Undy and Sean Penner, it's like, dude, not to like call you any shit, but it's like, how, I really hope they knew what they were, I think, and I think they did. And because you can kind of see how they're like, they knew what they were getting into. And it's like, man, that, that fucking sucks. That really sucks. Like, yeah, I remember I've, it's talking

to you about it, I think, and there was that interview. I don't know who it was. Someone got a hold of Gundy on the phone, like a day or two before he surrendered. Yeah. And he was like, go to Ukraine and Gundy's like, cool. He was like, can you get out of the city? And he was like, you don't think I tried? They're like, he's like, is there any way you could like put on civilian clothes and try to leave? He's like, bro, the Russians are looking for me. He's like, they are looking for me. God damn. But he was like, yeah, he was like, he's like, oh, please God, please. And Aiden's just like, oh, man, like, dude, I'm fucked. Like they're calling out my name. Like, and they're on the other side of the battle, like, Aiden, like, fuck, like, you know, and I mean,

you hope that Kosek Gundy makes it out. But even he has to know, like, yeah, well, I'm, I'm fucked. But I mean, he's not like you said, it's no different than anybody who was there in the first place. Like this is a war of complete annihilation. And the women and children are being thrust back to Russia to make more Russians. And it's, it's, it's terrible. And it's like, I don't, if I had to guess what's going to happen to Kosek Gundy and the other two, I think they are, because and the only reason I say this is because they are with the DNR. They are not with the Russians. They're with the DNR. I think the Wild West author. Yeah, they're dead. They're dead. And so it's, and the only, the only like Hail Mary saving grace throw

I can see is if the DNR tells the British government, yeah, you can have these guys back. If you reckon the N laws to, uh, oh yeah, recognition. Yeah, if you, yeah, I was about to say if you have, because they'd have to, Britain would have to, because if they did a prisoner exchange, they'd have to be like, Putin would be like, no, if we do this prisoner exchange, you have to do it with the DNR. You can't do it with me. It's with the DNR. You have to recognize the DNR as an independent state of Ukraine. Bro, that would have Boris Johnson's hands tied like a motherfucker. Like if you, like the amount of times articles and sun articles that come out there are like British soldiers in Ukraine captured by the Russian forces, please,

if you know anything, please contact. And it's like, they're really beat the drum over there. Yeah. And so that, I think that's the only way Aiden and Sean Penner get out of there is if they're like, yeah, we want, like you have to recognize us as a state and recognize that we're our own people and we're not part of Ukraine. Cause then Zelensky's going to have to be like, yo bro, what the fuck? And I think that'll, that dude, that could kick Britain out of the war quick, fast and in a hurry as if like divide Zelensky and Boris Johnson, you know what I'm saying? Like by getting Britain to try and recognize the DNR and Zelensky's like, bro, don't fucking do that. And then dude, you could, cause I mean, the coalition is only as good as

its weakest chain, right? Like this group of supporters. And once one person falls, the quitting is just going to start growing. So yeah, man. That's, that's a weird conclusion. We just get you to like, yep. And the DNR is going to tie Boris Johnson's hands behind his back and spank him on there. It's like, no, we just had that vote of confidence. You're like, you're already getting called a goon by everyone in the UK. This where it's like, everyone knows who these two are. And then Morocco, do they have anything going on? Cause the third guy's Moroccan. I don't know anything about Moroccan support to anything. Yeah, I think they're too busy fighting the Sub-Saharan Africa. Just yeah, like, dude, that guy's already dead. The one who was smiling at the

camera. Yeah, he's dead. It's not like it wasn't, what's the Moroccan government got to offer? Yeah, there was like, like, Hey, just going to say that you would really hate to have a Scottish insurrection again, wouldn't you? But all right, man, this one's running a little long, something to call it. So yeah, it's been a pretty fun one. And all right, everyone, thank you for listening. And if you look out on the experience, just cool things are coming. Follow Task Force 31. You