Kitbag Conversations - Kitbag Conversations Episode 15: Then What?
Episode Date: June 27, 2023In this episode, we go down the rabbit hole of America's inability to conduct a foreign policy that has a lasting positive impact and how most Americans can't think more than 1 layer deep. ...
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我都沒理過
怎麼懷疑 怎麼懷疑
就變成了一團爛泥
偶像一般的一手伸
怎麼懷疑 怎麼懷疑
都變成了風痴
我想要說的 千萬都說過了
我想要說的 留千萬都過過了我想要的高美都是不高分去高的 I'm gonna do it. You'll do it. I'll do it.
Welcome to the Kodie Conversations Podcast.
We are doing episode, I think it's 14 or 15. I don't think it matters.
Oh shit, did it cut out a little bit.
But anyway that's fine.
Yeah a little bit.
Anyways, ladies and gentlemen,
get it getting to the weeds here.
Into the weeds.
What do you...
Let's just
talk about how Americans don't read books
anymore and that's why we keep losing
wars. You were mentioning American
short-sightedness and I think it's
funny that you said we don't read books
anymore in the book of the the
quarter. I should say the book of the
quarter is the bear went over the
mountain and the other side of the
mountain.
And so, yeah, it's, I think Vaporlach was talking about it on the podcast, but the book club,
he said that when we went to war with Afghanistan after 9-11, they had, the US Army was looking
for source material out of Afghanistan and they didn't have anything.
In fact, I still have my dad's invasion maps.
I found them in a pile of shit.
They still say US's are on them.
And the US Army had to contact the publisher of the bear went over the mountain and the
other side of the mountain to basically print like 400 copies of each book because they
did not read.
They didn't say limited distribution.
Yeah. And they all say they're like, Hey
published by the USSR and what they come up like?
1989
Public market like 1992
Yeah, and they all say limited distribution by the US government
So it's like if you and I have one like hey, there's only like what you want of 800 copies like it's
There's only like, what? Do out of 800 copies?
Like it's, yeah, it's one of those crazy things
where if you just read about the Soviets and Afghanistan,
and of course, our military staff back in the 80s
and the 90s and the early 2000s,
we will never be in a prolonged conflict
with an insurgent group.
Didn't work.
But if we're going back to this kind of thing,
like, dying back to clock, what, 25 years what 25 years they're like cool let's just read what
the Soviet said and they just flat out it doesn't work
my favorite thing is like when we'll be talking about video games or something
and you'll just like message the group with Hearts of Iron 2 like I tried to
have Gannis did again if it got fucked up like I got Hearts of Iron 2. Like I tried to have Gannis to hit it again. If you could get fucked up, like, if I could.
I got Hearts of Iron 2.
I put in, I couldn't put in the pairs
because the mountains were too long.
And I sent in Met Troops,
but they took too long to get to the object.
I lost like 500,000 soldiers on the initial invasion.
And I was like, hey Ukraine, you're looking pretty good.
And that's a video game. Yeah, I was like, hey you, Cran, you're looking pretty good. That's a video game.
Yeah, I mean, it's a video game, but the Russians have their hearts of iron four players
making strategy content.
Oh my god.
Yeah, that's great.
The short-sightedness, man.
What a...
We got in and out of Panama pretty quick.
You know, we kind of went in,
punched the junta in the face and left.
That was pretty good.
Well, I think the thing when it comes to the Panama,
is we own the Panama Canal since like,
what did Teddy Roosevelt dig that like 18, like 98?
That like early nine, or not early 1900,
or not, it was like 19, 1905, 1909.
I'd look at that, but trust us.
But yeah.
Something like that, something like that.
So we owned the Panama Canal.
Like that was the Suez Canal for the British
and all these cool things.
And who was it?
Carter?
It was like, we should give this back.
And immediately the pantomies sold it over.
So their government went into revolution
and the government of revolution sold it to the Chinese
Yeah, and so we had to show up and be like hey motherfucker
Sure-sidedness because that was an Reagan we went back was a 83
Operation just cuz 88 89 I think we're on there. Oh, so we give them one decade to figure it out and they didn't so
Where it's like it's one of those like we talked about before like Americans are not like this great oppressor, but
We say try again with the Germans and the Japanese and the Chinese and all these people are like, oh, you don't know what you're doing
You know, honestly sometimes the bad guys are the good guys, so.
No, the point is, once again, that quote.
It's so good, but the good guys won every time in history.
Isn't that amazing?
Oh my God.
Every single book, man.
Yeah, just the fuck you.
Imagine if the Nazis won, man.
How history would look?
That, I think, one of the weirdest things, because we talked about this in the discord which not a plug for the discord
You got to join the Patreon
We talked about this in the discord how if you read old SS books or like books from a German point of view
They talk about how they some soldiers actually believed at one point that the Americans and the British and the French would realize that the true enemy was the Bolsheviks and would change.
They were like, they're gonna change sides.
And even once they realize these commies are commies.
And then there's some books that talk about that about like the Germans post World War
II and they're just like, all these Americans and Brits are complaining about the communists
and so we were like, I fucking told you so.
Like if I can.
Oh, man.
It's a, what a patent say.
We defeated the long enemy.
Oh, God, yeah.
And then he, yeah, then he got ran over by a truck.
Which, hey, if I was Robert Kennedy, Jr.,
I would say that America killed him, but.
I think we talked about that too. We were were like is patented inside job or not and I was like man I think it might be
the first one because he was like hey the Russians are just as bad if not
worse than the Germans so let's just go over there he's like they don't have
the new we do dude so uh who, who was it? MacArthur?
Fucking MacArthur said the same shit in Korea. He was like, are we really about to post
he foot this and not nuke somebody right now? Like this is insane. We've got like two million Chinese
coming over the border. Fucking dudes up and you don't want to nuke them right now. Like what
are we talking about right now? And then, yeah, to you what MacArthur is, like he was pushing north,
you know, the in Inchon landings.
So it took all of Korea.
The only common is capital to be taken during the Cold War was Pyongyang and the Chinese
like Mao was like go.
And so we had a hundred million just fucking malnourished Chinese heading south into Korea.
And MacArthur was like, hey, all their industrial centers are like Beijing,
Shanghai, all these places.
And he was like, if we don't stop them now,
they will surpass the Russians in 40 years,
and they will surpass us in 100.
He's like, we have to do this.
And Truman fired him.
Which is, you can say one thing about Truman.
She's a strong man to drop a bomb on a country twice.
Yeah, from there, you can say, well, the first one was for Japan.
And the second was for the Soviets to be like, look what we have.
Like, hey, fuck with us.
I dare you, which is the same thing.
You have to pat and saw that.
He was like, we have the tools.
Let's do it.
But we fired a general who was winning.
Which doesn't make any short-sightedness. Like, it doesn't make any sense.
So it's one of those where it's like, America was not this great liberator anymore.
We're one went to Germany, bucked their ass up, went home. World War Two came in, right?
went home. World War II came in, right? Are you? Japan, Italy, Germany? We said try again. We had bases there, but we were like we're front of the Soviets at
this point. So we're like we're gonna have like a triage of soldiers here. Korea
they're like not we're kind of working under the as Alex Jones to say the one
world government. And he was like, so we fired our best general
who was easily gonna run for president
and like what, 1956, 1958 something.
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against, but he didn't support the British invasion of Suez
Canal with the French and the Israelis against the
Egyptians because the Brits and the French were like, no, we're
in organic country, we should do our own things. And the
America was like, shut the fuck up.
But the whole operation that America's supported
was in favor of the Soviets,
because the Soviets weren't charged of the Egyptians.
So you're like, and so, I mean, even looking at today,
like we have friends where America supports Ukraine,
who do you, Ukraine has people who are there
fighting the Russians, but
people in Ukraine are supporting the Armenians who are a Russian satellite state.
We're fighting an American ally, but America is directly supporting insurgent groups
inside of me.
You're like, so what have we done?
Like are we just prolonging conflict?
Because RFK Jr. would say it's the forever where people
want to make money, which I don't think is wrong, but it's like, where is it in?
So at this point, like, I was just in East Africa, if we have 50 years of operations
in East Africa and they're dependent on U.S. resources, if we leave, they're going
to kill each other and guess who shows up the Chinese sustainableize it. So you're like, America's the villain every single time.
And so this idea, this great liberator is now stuck in the middle of if we're there
with the bad guys and if we leave where the bad guys. So what does America do? I mean, it's, to that point, right?
It's almost like there's a second mover advantage to American short-sightedness.
Like, we go in, we do our thing, but it's that counter-punch, like you're saying, right?
The China Packs, like, they see what we do, we're doing all these things, and then, you
know, 50 years in Africa.
And like, we were talking about earlier, it was like, you know, you have Americans showing up in Africa
with green berets, weapons, and money, but really Africans want hospital ships, infrastructure,
and, you know, schools. And we don't do that as Americans. And so we do that first initial short-sighted step into Africa. We don't even get a chance to think
alter our like our policy before China shows up with everything that we should have shown up with, right? And it's
Yeah, like I said, it's a second mover advantage
Well, we used to do that with like
What's Kennedy's biggest thing the Peace Corps where they would go to like Africa
And there's a reason a lot of African speak English is because Americans become in there was like what a half million Peace Corps guys
You call them cowards if you want, but they went to like Africa to speak
English to build a conduit between like the local village and the outside world.
If you guys speak Swahili, we speak English, learns English, we'll also learn Swahili,
and then from there we can build wells and hospitals and schools, and it worked for so
long.
And RFK Jr. I hate to keep going back to this guy, but he keeps talking about how JFK has more statues in Africa than anyone else because the locals love them
But then at that point where if today we don't do that we're like a militaristic wing
And there's an surgeons and we're just killing it surgeons because that's where Wagner comes in. They're like who's a problem?
I'm just gonna kill every single man, woman, and child. That village is gone. Cool.
I also get 25% of everything you build.
You can go in there.
And then from there, if you kill every man, woman, and child,
or military age male, the people are going to get pissed off.
So in 10 years, these kids who watch this happen
are going to want to be insurgent.
So which gives Wagner the fuel to come back.
And it's a self-looking ice cream
pound, which is counteractive toward America was doing what's 50, 60 years ago, which was
we're just here to like give you guys clean, jarring, and water, and that's not what anyone
else does. Like the Chinese are explaining them for money. That's just it. The Russians
are there to kill people. And America was supposed to be
there to like teach them how to read. So, but not today. No, no, no, no, it's gone. It's a lot of PR.
As Kato says and tells us about his time in Mozambique, it's, you know, these, these Russian
propagandists, they send the Africans action
movies. And he's like, dude, in Africa, like Stephen Segal is the man. Like, it's crap in America,
but they love a good action movie, and it's great propaganda. Same as like the Chinese, and that
stuff. Like, it's all PR, and I hate to keep saying this and hling on it, but one of our biggest crutches is the fact that RPR, R-SY ops, R-civill affairs, R-piece core
and all these things is run by older gentlemen
who have no idea, they have 20 years of G-Wat
under their belt, and I hate to say the kids are right
when they say you G-Wat veterans don't know
what you're talking about, but when it comes
to that soft touch like you're saying,
it's just not there.
And so it's
Well, I mean, I see let's look at the British right so the British one world or two colony collapsed
They were on the retreat after Suez. They didn't do shit for 20 years. They were kind of like a laughing stock empire
Fockelins kickoff they showed up in face fucked the Argentines because they were like, they were like
fuck you mother fucker, but it was not so much that they cared about, you know, the
Falklands. It was just to get their prestige back because they brought their entire navy,
this big royal navy, you know, the biggest, who used rule the entire world, they brought
them down, face fucked the Argentines, and then all their generals,
through his journalists who sat down with the generals, were like, what do you think
is going to happen?
And the generals were like, I don't know.
I've never fought a war.
Which is the same thing is our guys in like what Iraq A3, just, I mean, they may have
been a part of Iraq 91, but hey, $100 a hell, dude.
Like, we sustained more friendly fire than we did with KIA with casualties.
So, and before that, it was just special operations operations.
The last conventional conflict was Vietnam.
And so if you take that model of the British face,
like in the Argentines, after World War II in Suez
is America losing and I don't see it McDonald's and Hone Loi, we lost Vietnam, we so be
it's our collapsing.
And so it's not the fact that we wanted to liberate the Kuwaitis who wanted to show
the world what we could do, Which is a very old term. The Romans did it against the Carthaginians where
Hannibal attacked them and the Second Pena War Hannibal attacked them. From there, America went down,
burned their city to the ground, couldn't find the general. So they went to Macedonia, they're like,
where is he? And the Macedonians were like, I don't know, they're like, you get one chance,
where is he? And they're like, I don't know. They're like, you get one chance. Where is he? And they're like, I don't know. They're like, well, our herds in there. So they killed a third of the male
population, burned the whole continent, the country to the ground. It's the same thing
we used to do. Just like literally fuck with us. And I want to say, we did that again in
Iraq, 91 went flawlessly. It's the greatest operation of strategic planning from
multiple corners of the earth into one centralized location. We tried it again
with Afghanistan and we're like, where is he? And they were like, you can't
happen. We're like, cool, fine. We're gonna invade your country and they're like
try us because we just killed all the Russians here 10 years ago, which again, American short-sightedness is you were talking about a, the poshtun culture,
like, I don't know a single American who was a part of the initial push into Afghanistan,
who understood what poshtun was. It's, and it's one of those where it's like,
it's time to flat circle. Like, Nietzsche would say, or is America just like directionless
because the Brits always knew what they wanted to do
until like the Falcons are like, we're back.
And then they immediately went under our wing
into Gulf War 91,
top of the world, nothing crazy, Araco 3.
Cool, we get where it's at on, then what?
There's no then what?
Because before, because before, it was like, get where to the dictator and still a democratic
government, you know, do all these cool things.
These free liberal market left-wing things.
Araco 3, you're like, well, I guess the Sunnis are the problem.
Let's put the she isn't power. Oh, wow, I didn't Sunnis are the problem. Let's put the shea's in power.
Oh wow, I didn't understand that next story you guys fought a war with 10 years against a shea
government that hates us. And so that's why we get a rant today. It's one of those like,
I understand why America did good things so long. And then boom,
is money the problem? Is it
Shorthand is it over eager generals because they just want to be a war hero? I mean, I was just in East Africa and general show up. They're like, I'm here to win. I'm like brother, man
We lost the day we got here. They don't care about us
What does winning look like and so that's I mean we talked about that with the Russians for like
You can hypothesize all day what the Russians want, but it may just be they want a buffer zone between the Ukrainians and the Russians and NATO. They want Ukraine to
be the buffer zone. You're like, that's an old term. And American forgot that. So it's
like, it's moving thoughts in different directions. you're like well, where does America go from here?
Is it short-sightedness? I think it is, but I don't know
There was
Episode 10 plug
My dad talked about that and his interview. I told him I was like did you see Isis coming?
And he said hell yeah, I did because
He was kicking indoors and shooting people in the face and doing all this stuff
And he mentioned he's like everybody we were going after was fucking SUNY
He's like everybody we he's like at one point. He's like on this rotate on one of my rotations out there
I you know he sat down and he looked at a guy who was the butcher of Baghdad and it was just a SUNY professor at the Baghdad college
Who some bus she had didn't like and he wanted his, and it was just a Sunni professor at the Baghdad College, who
some but she I didn't like and he wanted his position. And he was just like, these guys
are going to come back with a fucking vengeance. And then ISIS happened. And it was like,
well, no fucking shit. And so it's like, you're saying like America refuses to ask the
question, then what? And it's, it's really funny because like you're talking about the British and like the Falklands and all this stuff and it it it seems like we talk about this a lot like how other
cultures are extremely racist not just towards other people but towards themselves like
Arabs hate other Arabs Arabs hate Turks Arabs hate posh or not posh too but uh for you to say
African African samalis who are of Italian descent,
hate African Somalis who are British descent,
they hate them.
They just refuse to acknowledge their people.
And you're like, aren't you all Somalis?
Or like, what does that mean?
They're like, no, no, no, no, no,
I'm part of this tribe who was descendant of,
and you're like, Jesus Christ.
And it's one of those, it's like Americans just take a step back
and like ask the next, like, then what?
Because in America and the West days,
it's very popular to say, defund the police.
You know, like cool, all for it, then what?
Yeah.
And there's no answer.
You're like, because if we look at something like Chaz,
it became a hyperinflated, worse
version of anything they could ever fight against.
And you're like, oh, so you got, you literally elected what you hate.
All right, so then what?
So the cops are the good guys.
That's who you're calling on.
So, but just think that local level on an international scale.
And you're like, and that's why a lot of American conservatives, I think, look at the
Russians, is like, maybe they're right. At least they know what they want. They have an identity.
And it's wild to me that we won't come out. Like, like Sino Tauk was saying on the first episode,
we are undermined so easily by being called racist at all these things when other countries and ethnic by not ethnic groups are just are blatantly racist like the Chinese who make videos about
African children calling themselves what you know all those things and it's just slew
of anus things. Yeah and it's it's wild because no no president
wants to say it because they'll be like that's racist or that's whatever but I firmly believe
that what we should be aiming towards is like,
hey, no, fuck this.
We're going to create the, because it's the AUKUS, the Australian UK US,
we're going to create a global alliance that is the AUKUS.
And then we'll probably throw in Canada if they stop fucking around with the
Chinese and New Zealand.
But I think that even like Poland and all that, if they sat there and said like, no, we're gonna create a
Federation of Democratic countries that play fuck around and find out games
We are gonna go around the world killing
All the fucking communists who undermine our shit like if we're in Africa and we're doing something
We're not gonna let Wagner play touch our butt and walk away
We're not gonna let the Chinese build bases across the street from us in Djibouti, but we won't say that. And I understand that it's not to piss off
the right sleeping dragon that is China, but I think if we actually stood up, woke up,
and sat there and said that, the amount of people who would be like, oh fuck you.
Like, shit.
It's like a happy meeting up from like a server bro from Southern California. And a guy from like Des Moines, Iowa would be like,
yeah, let's do that.
Yeah.
Like it, it worked in the 80s.
And I know a lot of people don't like Reagan,
but like Reagan came out and he was like,
foreign policy, we'll deal with America tomorrow.
We have to stop the Soviets.
And he knew what the thing was.
He knew that the thing was like, we're what was like, we're going to come home and
we're going to fucking party. And then, but I mean, Clinton was, I mean, honestly, Clinton was the party.
That was it. And then it was, which is, I mean, I personally think, I personally think the best
American president in the last 30 years was Clinton because he knew how to make both sides work together.
Like, as a man aside, like politician wise, like he did things,
but I'm sure Golf 491, the Soviets were gone.
He got the military in half.
We went from like four armored divisions to like one,
like it was as a military strategist,
someone would say, no, you need to plus up the military
to flex in the world, but look at we have.
But the 90s was the party, and I think that's what really set in America was idealism.
And idealism, like, hope, is a dangerous thing, because as Americans were partying, listening to a grunge and all these cool things, the Soviets were eating shit out of the road,
and the Chinese were learning how to count, and they met in the middle.
If you look at it from a strategic policy, yeah, Clinton's awesome, because I mean, a lot of
the hang on there conservative bros, because like Matt said, the military was not doing hot in the 90s, a Mogadish, no, but I mean, I'll come back to that. But like, I
mean, if you look at it from a diplomacy, information and
intelligence and economic, which is the dive model, you know,
you take that, I mean, we had a surplus. Clinton made a plan to
pay off the national debt. Like we would mind blowing, like, go look that up if you're young, but yeah, Clinton made a plan to pay off the national debt Like we would mind blowing like go look that up if you're young, but yeah, Clinton had a plan and the
Bush when he got elected undid it and then gave everybody a check in the mail
And we were America we were in charge and it was a party, but
Like you said
Second place is always there's always gonna be somebody in second place who wants it more and that immigrant mentality the Chinese and the Russians who are eating shit and they're like no
We want that we want all of that that you have in more. You've talked about with the Iranians the Russian the Chinese the South Africans the the Brazilian bricks
They want what we have they want what we have yeah, and it's one of those where I mean, it really,
I mean, just going to Africa, it really sucks to say that,
it's like, hey, some people don't know what they're doing.
You can give them all the tools and they refuse to use them.
And so that goes back to America being this great oppressor with like,
you know, whatever, just stay in the country.
But Bill Clinton with
after all for 91 colon, just stay in the country, but Bill Clinton with at Golf 491,
Colin Powell stepped in and there was this thing called the
Powell doctrine, which was essentially informed policy terms.
If you punch us in the nose hard enough, we'll leave.
The first instance black Hawk Down America left, we just
fucking quit. We didn't accomplish a single thing. We were laughing stock after the great success of
The cry I'm for over Saddam Hussein back in 91 and
Who was it the Indians and the Chinese and the Russians the Russians were like in disarray?
They try to be our friends. There was like this push with Coleman Powell
To make them a part in NATO. But the Russian people just didn't understand how to think properly outside of being
told what to do after what 80 years of communism. They're like, fuck, so then these are champion
comedies back. That's how we got Putin. That's how we got Hitler after the YMAR Republic of the First World War. Same thing, like parallel that way, but...
Yeah, it was a pal doctrine, and after that they're like, cool.
Let's just make a no-fly zone over forever.
And then at that point, you're like, then what?
Yeah.
Like, what do we do after that?
Like, I think Golf War was America's like...
What is the term?
Like our Hail and Fair Well.
It's like an international policy.
Where it's like, fuck with us, I dare you.
Like, Araco 3 was like, the world was like cool.
Then what?
Yeah, it's, it's a, it sucks to say.
It sucks to say, but it's like
Dude we fucked Araka. They didn't do anything
Iran Iran didn't do anything the Russians literally shit the Chinese refused to play a game
97 like they knew Clinton was leaving who was the party the party was ending and
It was like if you even listen to American
music back in the 90s they're calling you against this great oppressor but you're like who are
you calling against? Like what? Yeah they're you know they're I hate to say the term crying but they're
just like complaining to complain yeah And then after that, the world
went then what? America then what? And they call this on our bluff. And it's 20 years
to call us on our bluff. Scrum. 100% catalyst for then what?
Yeah.
And then and that. Yeah. It's a like I was saying, it's that it's that second-movers advantage against America that you're it's
The then what is like so we do step one
We're like ah, then everyone's like counter punch and then they're like what the fuck was that?
I mean, it's it's every war we've ever been in World War two patent had to prove himself in North Africa
The Korean War had task force Smith. We got our ass handed to us in Vietnam in the beginning of the Iraq War.
Shit, Fallujah one had to happen so that we could learn by Fallujah two, but it's like
these, we Americans do step one.
We don't know the answer to then what, and then we get punched in the face, and then step
three is we industrialize, or we bring the full might of the military industrial complex
and then we kick your ass.
And so it's a very shitty way to live life to sit there.
To have no forethought, to step, we have step,
it's like the underwear now, I'm just like step one,
invade step two, step three profit.
Like fucking, what's step two?
I don't know.
Well, it's, I mean, if you,
so America, let's be honest, is an empire.
And historically an empire invades a country and takes it.
It's just, you know, Iraq, 51st state, for example.
After World War II, like before, we were like, this empire and weight and like, we invaded
Germany, we beat them, we went home.
After that, we said Germany, Japan, Italy, try again.
Like you can do better to things.
We invaded Iraq and just sat there.
We were like, cool.
Nice.
The bath party.
And then, yeah, we got rid of all the bath party members.
Jesus Christ.
You ever wrote about Sauders City?
Sauders City was a nightmare.
Dude, Sauders City was a nightmare.
And we're just talking about a rack who was this oil hub, not talking about Afghanistan,
who was a thorn of the side of the Chinese and the Russians, which you could say is the
strategist, that's why we're there for so long.
You're like, cool.
We're killing people who believe in the same things we do.
The Taliban is no different than the American Tea Party who believe in fundamentalism,
religion, separation of church and state, all these cool things.
There were no different.
And so a lot of Americans were like, why are we killing these guys?
They shoot us and we shoot them.
And after that, I go home and like my little brother goes
over there.
And so it's like a lot of American federal
and sort to get like frustrated.
And so I think that's where like the,
I've already talked about Timothy McVeigh,
but I think a lot of like the golf or early Iraq war stuff
where guys were like, what are we doing here?
Came back and the VA was like, shut up.
Yeah.
Yes.
Then what?
Yeah, then what?
Then what is the last question I think anyone could ever ask?
Because it's like, hey, defund the police departments, then what?
Yeah.
Yeah, we've...
No one has an answer. no one has an answer.
And you're like, cool, it sucks,
but you're like, cool, is the bad guy the good guy?
Because if you have then what,
it's gonna get so much worse.
You can't add that to literally
every political party's platform.
Like either one, like, oh, we need to bring God back to school.
Then what? Oh, well, bring God back to school then what
Oh, well then you yeah, then what okay, oh we want you know it
So you want to bring God back school. What about the atheist kids? You had a kicked them out?
All right, so cool now they're gonna go into cry because no one wants them and they're un-educated and the hand can Employed and then you're like cool, but now we have in certain groups essentially going on or you go the other way where you're like, cool, but now we have insertant groups essentially going on, or you go the other way,
where you're like, well, let's go,
everyone needs to be a soldier.
And they're like, what about the ones who refuse?
Then you have an insertant group in your country.
We're like, so we're gonna hire those new kids
who fought, it's a civil war at that point.
You're like, fuck, what do you do?
Or if you do something like
Like what's the new hot thing like celebrating like go on going? I was about to say so if we're gonna attack the liberal party like the culture war that they've started like you know
Like let's let's give all the kids fucking hormones and let them do it over whatever they want like okay
Then what how many mass shooters have been caused by
Chemical imbalance in the brain and stuff like
that then what then we've got what if they want to change midway through their life and they can
right then what and nobody's out there do you let them go like into the wind yeah then what just
feel like oh well you're not really what we voted for and so but the same time the conservative
who whenever anything it's if something like this happens,
they go, we want nothing to do with anything who is right of our left of Ronald Reagan.
And so you're like, you're like, you did Reagan was 40 years ago. And you're like, ah, so it's
So it's a fucking like America is at a Constitutive then what and so it's like
2016 Hillary Trump then what like vote for Trump then what like I don't know
If if you're and so people vote for him and then you're like oh wow the country
implodes if you're an avid listener of us,
you probably ask the question, then what?
And then no, everyone looks at you,
like you're just stupid.
And then it's like, we're over here.
Like they don't ask the question.
They don't say that.
They're like, fucking, like it just...
No, it's, I mean, it's like, what is it?
Go to Raleigh, North Carolina, get yourself a beer and grab a girl to your right and just ask her, like, what do you believe in?
And number one, she won't say anything. Number two, like, no one believes in anything anymore because like, was it comfort is better than like discomfort?
Yeah. So you're like, the devil you know is better than one you don't know. So it's better to complain about like, American soldiers overseas killing kids, but
whatever's going on here is like, it's like, hush us, or you're like, all right, so if you believe
in something, like, what do you believe in? So it's like a conservative, you're like, we need to kill
a trans kids. You're like, all right, cool then what? You're like, then what? Like, you're like all right cool then what? You're like then what like you
get like what a two-thirds a third of the population hates you so is that in a
certainty at that point? So it's I think it's psychology or like in psychology
or like whatever it's called I feel I think and I believe like the thought like if
you ask somebody like how do you feel about this they'll tell you like real quick
like oh I feel this and then it's like okay
What do you think about this and then they have to go a little deeper and it it hurts your average American
Who's got a high school education which is nothing?
It's like a British middle school
equivalent
But they can they can probably think about something but if you ask them
What do you believe? That's when stupid, like Republicans and liberals,
their dials are getting moved and changed via siops
because it's subtle, right?
It's like, well, that should make you feel or think
and it's like, you can impact that belief,
but if you can change the beliefs of somebody,
you can change how they think and feel.
And because that's the core is what you believe. And if you ask most Americans exactly like you're saying,
what do you believe in? You're going to get some heinous, heinous shit.
I mean, like, if you have to ran it up on the street from like Southern California, like do you support guns?
Or you're like, no, those are neo-Nazis. Yeah, and you're like cool got it like
Got it and then you go to like what like something Alabama
You're like do you believe in healthcare? They're like no, those are communist. You're like cool
So it's been wow and so tight on each end
Where the right believes anything left of Mao, or right of Mao is like, everyone's going to die,
or the left believes that everything right of Hitler
is everyone is going to die.
Yeah.
And you're like, so how do you talk to that?
How do you like have a conversation?
Break it.
I mean, honestly, like you said, and I've seen,
I've seen this happen to some people who are in my
relative family, but just ask him
Like exactly like you said then what how do you feel about that? What do you think about that? What do you believe about brother man?
It's you just
Cracking like what the fuck it's I mean like I know people who are like you know
I'm not gonna go out of the weeds,
but it's like the ven what to ever question.
Like, we should have healthcare.
You're like, cool, ven what?
You're like, will we pay off healthcare?
You're like, cool.
Ukraine gets, is new of Nova, Russia,
and they're about to invade East Germany.
Then what?
Yeah. So, and it's one of invade the East Germany. Then what? Yeah.
So, and it's one of those like hard questions, you're like,
so is your cancer medication worth 250,000 Ukrainians?
Yeah, it's like, is like, I'll just fuck it with you bro.
No.
Or something like that where it's like a...
Or a...
We shouldn't support you or a Taiwan.
You're like, alright, then what?
No, like cool. You know your phone?
How would you call someone if we have no phones?
Do you know how to write a letter?
Do you know how to write a check?
No, like no.
Dude, it's...
It's the same on the right and left.
Like what's crazy is they both believe in the same thing.
They just refuse to.
It's, it sucks.
It's really hard.
It sucks so much to have a conversation.
I think you and I are both like a realist.
Or like just, it's kind of in the middle.
Like, alright, and then what or
like cool elect Donald Trump again and then what it died with what are you gonna what are you gonna do
it the realism died with I'm not trying to it's it's it died with Kennedy
what's going on? Kennedy rail like it's the JFK. I fucking love him.
It did, because I'm trying to think,
we're just realists, but I'm sitting here and I'm thinking,
I'm like, where did that die in American culture,
where it was just like, Reagan was obviously
the point of no return, right?
You could just be a cowboy Hollywood star
and make it the president.
Well, I think when it comes to American politics
opposed world war two, Trim was a pussy,
Ike was a pussy.
Kennedy literally the goat just to the top.
He's like, I will face fuck any country crosses me.
And it will also make sure that everyone in my country
has bread, like just a fucking man.
After that, who was that?
LBJ was like, what are we doing? Going to a Vietnam? Do it. And then Nixon, literally
no different, and then Reagan. And who was like, wow, America's fucked up. I'm not
going to talk about that. I want to kill the Russians.
Forget it. You're getting Ford and Carter in there there like that's that's those those two week motherfuckers like
Those guys shaped American foreign policy more than anyone will ever know
Carth was in a Ford. Yeah, it is head every hit a band in China said every single day
and it's
They're gonna say like no different than buy and every time
Biden trips or Ford hit his head, the Russians made a move.
Like they just fucking knew.
And then Carter, like, dude, he was a peanut salesman.
Like he was just a weak politician.
He was a weak president.
Reagan shows up, R and foreign policy,
which is, I understand why a lot of conservatives
like align with that domestic issues
literally through the four. Yeah, we had CIA's torturing DEA agents down in Mexico like
fuck. And it's one of those where it's like, I think I could say like,
I think I could say like Kennedy was like the catalyst and like Reagan was the coffin like after that like like I don't think a lot of Reagan's foreign policy was bad.
Like a military arms race to ruin the Russians because he knew their economy was weak.
It wasn't a bad idea. Selling biological weapons to the Iranians
and the Rackies to kill each other wasn't a good idea,
but then after that, you're like,
well, then what?
Then we have Bush.
Any Vades Rack, you're like, cool.
Then what?
I don't know how to put this in the words,
because it's like, I'm not defending like Kennedy or Reagan.
It's just like, I like Kennedy.
I think it was like the best form, World War II,
or former World War II president, like period, but it's.
It's weird to me because you actually made it sad.
Like, it sounds like, you know, but then what?
Like Reagan had an answer to that, like he at least did something.
I mean, like you said, domestic issues were shit, but Kennedy, uh, yeah, Kennedy was, you know,
a very stand-up guy and had his answers.
Eisenhower, not as strong as Kennedy, but I mean he did make the interstate system
and stuff like that and you have Truman who dropped the boxes.
Well, if you want to look at like the interstate system, Kennedy was not Kennedy. Eisenhower
was playing on the back heel. He thought the Russians were going to invade. So that's why he made
the interstate railway system to support tanks on every bridge. He was not a foreign policy guy. He was domestic issue, which is bizarre to think,
like a Republican, a conservative, thinking domestic.
What did he do during his tenure as a foreign policy?
Oh, Suez Canal, and he told the Brits to fuck off.
You're like, cool.
Thanks.
Thanks, like, thanks, like the fight.
But you're, I mean, you're right.
Like, I was, you're right.
Like I was thinking I was like, it was Kennedy that had a huge fucking bag of tricks.
Nothing happened pretty much after him except like, you know, Paul from Vietnam, but then
Reagan had some things that he did that were like mind blowing.
I mean, defeated the communist essentially, but it's like, after that, it's like, what
is any president like, the then what, like it's mostly just
the then what making like ticking boxes of family.
Yeah, and it's, it really sucks because it was, what's the term, Renaissance?
Like Clinton was the Renaissance man.
He was the last one who celebrated both just American domestic policy flourishing, American
foreign policy flourishing.
And we can't even say it's because of him, but I think he was a very good president.
He made both sides work together, but the 90s were amazing.
Al Qaeda was something like brewing underground, but we can go from there.
But 9-11, I understood why Bush attacked. You're like, cool. We need to get
our national identity back. Who are we were attacking? Doesn't know clue. Yeah. Literally
is your idea. Like, we're gonna attack two countries because, like, how do you fight
an idea? Like, these kind of things. Yeah. Like, it doesn't make any sense in like eight years with Bush.
You're like, fuck man, why not getting any,
and then you see like the atrocities with like the CIA.
Yeah.
So taking all the boys down to like get more,
they're like, towards screen them,
you're like, this is not like what America is supposed to be.
These kind of things.
And then we have Obama, shows up who's an idealist
who I think immediately got crushed by realism was like fuck. It was like I think that that first term
of Arab Spring supporting like people need to choose. And then after that he's like, oh wow, some people should not have a choice.
He was like, oh shit.
I mean, I think Obama's even come back and said that his biggest flounder was the handling
of the Arab Spring, where we're to Gaddafi and you're like, oh, well, you have 108 tribes,
then what?
They all hate each other.
Yeah, he was just begging for it, like just a reason to kill.
But it's, uh, I was, I had to look it up. No, I want, that's where I want to go to like,
so after Obama, we have Trump. Yeah. A lot of Americans would think would be like another Reagan.
But America internally was like, we don't want that. But foreign policy, they were waiting to see what we would do.
And so the first four was it 2016, 2017, those a white group guys showed up.
Was it Madison Trump? Doesn't matter. Smoke check from 300 guys. K, you know, like, cool.
America's not playing. So all they have to do is wait. They're like, let's just watch.
cool, America's not playing. So all they have to do is wait. They're like, let's just watch.
And then America's like, cool, we voted Trump in. Then what? And he's like,
he's going to call people a faggot like on national TV. You're like, Jesus, you're like, Jesus Christ, me. You're the president in the United States. And then we get, I mean,
it's just, you're right, dude. Like, I don't wanna say, like, Reagan was like,
the last good American president, but it was like,
after that, it's like, we haven't done much since.
It's the Gilded Age 2.0, right?
I would argue that it comes right at
the internet crash of 98,
because the Gilded Age was 1865, I had to look it up.
It's 1865 to 1898.
And for those young kids who don't know,
the Gilded Age is like to be Gilded
is to like dip it in gold.
And so it's like the idea of the Gilded Age being
it's like a turd dipped in gold
because it was like Eulisius' grant to 1898
where it's just bullshit happening and corruption
and mass terrible things. I mean we had the internet crash 98, we had the 0708 crash, we had
the many crash in the teens and we had COVID, like we're just getting, we're living in the
Guilded Age 2.0 essentially is what it is after the internet crash and like Monaco Lewinsky, it's just like total shit. And it's not
looking good. And it's mean it's not looking good, but going back to Clinton, dude, I have never
heard of a president or any leader of a foreign power to invite like a Russian president to get fucked up, drink beer, and eat McDonald's in the hash.
Like, there's a stump in DC, I'll go see it,
where it's like, yeah, Boris Yeltsin got fucked up
and rounded over here, demanded McDonald's cheeseburgers.
And Bill Clinton was like, dude, you gotta go back inside.
And I'm like, dude, you gotta go back inside. Like, nice.
It's...
Oh, what?
I got a piss so fucking bad, dude.
I'm sorry.
Well, then I'm fucking...
I'm fucking bad.
Dude, I'm sorry.
Well, then I'm fucking bad.
I'm fucking bad.
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Talking about the other day. You would like, if you and I like back before it could do like a like American president like weighing
both forward policy and domestic policy back and forth. Who would you pick?
Ehh.
Oh man. Um.
So let's just do like number one because my number one is Kennedy. I think like he just did the job across the board.
Most would argue he didn't do a good job
because he only did three years.
Yeah.
So.
If we're going recent, like the last hundred years,
I would have to say Teddy Roosevelt,
because he literally told all of Europe and the world.
Like, he invented the word gunboat diplomacy.
Like he pretty much said, like don't come over here.
Oh, fucking.
Like, all right, so I think I think it for thinking
big picture, like, I guess before Reagan, it was Roosevelt.
It was like, hey, I built these cool ships.
I'm gonna go show you them.
Get phones.
I was like, give her a theory.
It was like, 12 battleships, the great white fleet
went to all of Europe and he was like,
literally do something.
And then, was he an officer in the Cuban thing?
Yeah, so the reason why I would pick up is like the National Park Service
was created under him.
He redefined the meat industry and all that stuff.
He broke up monopolies and he told the foreign countries to get fucked.
And when he was Secretary of the Navy under the previous president, he told them,
get fucked, I'm not going to be the Secretary of the Navy, I'm going to go be a colonel of the
cavalry and fuck in the Spanish-American wars. Just a fucking dude. It's a man dude.
But if I'm talking the worst and I've heard this, let's do 20th century, 20th century. Okay.
Yeah.
We're not, we're not doing this.
Both foreign and domestic.
Foreign and domestic.
Yeah.
If I'm doing the worst, it was Carter.
I agree.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's, I don't, I understand the option
of picking an outsider, but I can't pick out of hat a single good
thing like he did foreign policy or domestic wise.
It was more like a boo-boo for America.
And you're like, wow, that's crazy.
He was president.
And put that in you look to the future.
And you're like, like wow we did so much
worse. Yeah, Trump, yeah, Trump was the Republican Party Carter I think. He definitely was and
I know a lot of people probably listeners love Trump. You're like, if me three things on
a piece of paper that he did good, you know, like just show me. Like it's, oh, no wars. Cool. Worse always going to happen.
All right. Anyways, done what? Carter was, well, the thing is, is like Trump, Trump was the one
who got rid of the restrictions on like trains and like logistics acts so that's why we're seeing a lot of train accidents now because he
Removed a lot of the Scott the stopgaps and stuff like that so it's like
He was also the one who signed the deal with the Taliban saying we would leave in
2021 and then left it for Biden. He's like oh by the way, that's on your desk bro. Have fun with that like fucking
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It's like cool. Trump started that like Biden cemented it. Yeah, like it was it so it's
like
Understand like this is where it started, but I don't think it's like
Is it word catalyst to good word like it's?
It's it's not it was going to happen.
It's just, America was always gonna leave Afghanistan.
Like the Russians did this, the Chinese knew this.
What was it, Obama in O.A.
was like, let's leave Iraq and Afghanistan.
We left Iraq, preemptively, which created ISIS.
Yeah.
And so that was, that was an Obama thing.
With that at the same time, his military advisors,
like, you probably should leave Afghanistan.
And Trump shows up, you're like,
what the fuck are we doing?
We're leaving?
Let's do that.
Okay.
Well, and I was like,
so I think a big thing for me is when it comes
to like foreign policy leaders and like who's a good president plus minus is who was literally a soldier like Kennedy was a soldier who's
P.T. Bo got torpedo by the Japanese and he pulled all of his boys out of it and like got to safety and Teddy Roosevelt
Disregarded the president in invaded Cuba
Like that is a man and like after that what happened for 10 15 years nothing like after the Roosevelt
Literally nothing got rule one. Yeah, but that's like, if for America, that's like, eh, that's like, eh.
I mean, there's like some battles in World War One,
but we missed like, we kind of showed up
when everybody was like tired and we're like,
hey, what's up?
Now there's that joke that America showed up with like,
you know, a folding chair and hit the loser.
Yeah, I was like, would you know Wilson was like,
let's start the United Nations
and left. And then after that, borderline complaint, American complaint for the rest of the
20s and 30s that like, wow, the world sucks. And you're like, hey, you had a chance. And you
didn't. So what's going back to my thing where was like, America's this great liberator,
we give people a second chance.
It's, that's who we're supposed to be.
And I'm gonna say a civilized world.
Like we're supposed to be that.
And then,
well, the R2 shows up,
what was his name?
Roosevelt, he was in office for like 26 years.
And we're saying he was no different than I.
Yeah.
Like, Hitler was like, he's a dictator like I am.
Yeah.
He just keeps getting elected.
And so you're like, hey, Hitler, you may have a point.
Well, I like it.
But it's like, hey man, we invaded Europe.
We invaded Asia.
Cool things.
But I think out of 100 years,
I think Clinton's number three.
I think he's Canadian number one,
who was like literally cross me, I dare you,
to American like military industrial complex,
and also, I turn around and said cross me,
I dare you to the Russians.
And so Roosevelt was cool.
Who the fuck remembers?
What was his name?
Hoover?
Oh, the Hooverville.
Yeah, who remembers them?
Yeah, cuz you got
Jesus, I think it's and I don't I don't have anything on me
I have I think it's Roosevelt taft and then Roosevelt tried to create the bull moose party to
Take it back from taft, but he didn't get it which caused Wilson to take it and then Wilson and then
Coolidge coolidge then Hoover then Roosevelt. Roosevelt.
500 years. Then Truman. Then Eisenhower. Then J.F.K. and then LBJ Nixon Ford.
I'm not going to lie to you. I think LBJ is one of the worst presidents we've had like across the board.
I think LVJ is one of the worst presidents we've had across the board. Justin, you're not tricky dick.
I think those two go hand in hand.
Those two are the same guys.
They have pairs.
Like, once Republican and once Democrat, they both leave in the same thing.
They both won 100% of the vote.
So here's the thing, right? If time is a flat circle, we're repeating. is they both won with 100% of the vote. Like it's...
So here's the thing, right?
If we, if, if time is a flat circle,
and we're repeating, right?
So we're actually due for a Reagan or something like that,
actually, because you have, you have Kennedy and Obama.
I'm not putting them at the same level,
but they both ran on being the young candidate in hope.
And then we have LBJ, LBJ Nixon Ford Carter. So which means you have Trump, Biden, and then you have LBJ LBJ Nixon forward Carter so which means you have Trump Biden and then you have two
We have two more shit presidents to go before America wakes up to a strong leader again. Fuck which
Makes me think it was Clinton Clinton Bush Trump Biden
We have one coming up what I don't want to say to Santa's because Jesus fucked me.
He, dude Disney is like pulling him down right now, just like pulling him down into the
refuse so he can't get elected.
That was the stupid thing I do.
Yeah, you're like, dude, it's like looking into American politics, you're like, so we have
Trump, who, Mariam and I ICO to jail and if he does not
Gonna get the nomination we have DeSantis who
Literally just wants to get elected because yeah
Like at you can pull that special forces card all you want He was a jag with for Navy seals. He was a fucking lawyer
Which I mean if you if you hear him he. He was a fucking lawyer. God. I know he can't. Which, I mean, if you, if you care of him,
he says, I was a Navy SEAL.
So I know he pisses a lot out of military guts off.
He's like, I was, I'm a Navy SEAL.
And so, you know, piss it all up.
Well, what else we have?
Kennedy.
Who?
God, we have a Kennedy of last-s flat-circle Kennedy Kennedy.
But it's...
I like Kennedy, but two things.
I said it before it was one.
Two.
One, his nuclear stance.
He doesn't like nuclear power.
He just doesn't.
He just looks at the world like if we have nuclear power and have Chernobyl, where you're
like, uh... Only the Russians only the Russians were that in the Japanese
with Fukushima, the tectonic plate ripped that reactor
in half, you're like, that was not a failure design.
And number two, he doesn't like the military being everywhere,
which I'm like, I agree with that,
but he doesn't believe in military funding, so it's like, I'm in a I agree with that. But he doesn't, he doesn't believe in military funding.
So it's like, I mean, I'm my son of a house.
I'm like, uh, yeah, you're like,
hold on, hold on, hold on.
I'm like, kind of need that, but who else?
That's about it with Biden, Biden incumbent president.
They're like, wow, I don't think America has
another Reagan or Kennedy
of their cards. I pray so much for either party to just give me an option that isn't an
old man falling up the stairs or a big orange pair in diapers. Like for the love of God,
give me a better option. Like fucking Christ. It's so stupid and it's like one of those where it's like
you read about an American congress back in the 1800s and you're like
didn't they fist fight each other with a disagree?
Yeah.
You're like even like in the House of Commons in England
like didn't they like duel and kill each other?
Yeah.
It's a greeting.
Like Jesus Christ.
They'd be less p pussy's. Fuck it.
Dude, it's just not.
It's not good.
And it sucks to think that we have like two more fucking presidents to go before this
gets better.
Ruby.
So we have at least eight more years of just face fuck to go.
And it's.
Oh no.
Yeah, it is.
Which to the rest of the world is good, but to us is bad
Then what do you do like
If you're an American just buck buck a lot buck a roof like you're you're pretty much. Yeah
Yeah, it's been
It's been an hour and some change
You guys I was just
It's been an hour and some change. You guys, I was just, uh,
poking my eye here.
Somebody fart on your pillow.
Yeah, pink eye.
Yeah, farted on my own and just went in.
No, I see what it comes to foreign policy.
You know what, America's not coming to save you.
So just get stronger.
Yeah, we're doing the last thing.
It's a worse answer.
It's a lasting.
Like if America's this great leverage,
supposed to, and I keep saying it like before,
that's what we want it to be.
Now today, we have no idea.
We're just kind of there because. And so if, if,
if Nigeria wants to get strong, they should get strong because America is not going to
help them, and they should kill every single Al-Shabaah agent or whatever. And then if something
like Poland wants to get strong, hate to say it, they should probably leave the EU. Like it's-
The point is come to say here.
And what you know what the worst part is?
Like this idealism of the 90s, everyone coming together to help each other.
Like, hey, no one is, so it's tribalism at its finest, dude.
And it's like one of the hardest things for me to admit,
but it's like tribalism is a real thing.
And there's a reason dictators take charge.
And there's a reason tribes are always the strongest
faction.
You're like, Jesus fuck.
This is a reason Africa is dominated by tribes.
You're like, ugh.
Ugh.
And so it sucks, but yeah, it's, I don't know, man, it's America
better buck a lot because we have a levy state years left of like whatever the fuck this
is.
So, uh, it's a depressing podcast.
Why do we do this? Talk about something funny. The new Transformers movie is coming
out. Another one. Well, they're apes this time. Oh, god damn it. They're gorilla. Oh, did
I tell you about Africa? We get in this on the fun thing though. So when I was in Africa, we were on a runway, like a dirt runway.
There were some like guerrillas, monkeys that ran into the tarmac.
And so the Americans called the Somalis, they were like, hey, get those off the tarmac
because if an American plane lands, we didn't have like a monkey flying there and destroying
the propellers.
And so the Somalis were like, okay
So they ran up to like boop boop boop boop
Just trying to scare him and it was a baboon that they called Caesar and he was he was beer than you and I dude
He was huge
He was huge. He walked up to a hissing cat and ripped it in half stood stood up on all fours, or and just looked at us.
He was like, do something. And I was like, oh my god. It's like, it's a plan of the age.
Like, you maniacs.
You're bastards.
You're blowing up. Dude, it was so, I was laying down. I was so tired I was awake for like 47 hours. I was just laying down like how I pack and I was like well
I pretty like the monkeys get the monkeys getting into shit in Africa is just like that
It's not normal, but because it's normal. I see you just like
It's not normal, but because it's normal I see you just like
But it was weird. I guess that's a good any point. Hey monkeys are strong. So anyways, we have a discord. We have patreon
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