Kitbag Conversations - Kitbag Conversations Episode 9: Goodbye Matt

Episode Date: April 24, 2023

Matt's taking a bit of leave, he'll be back. The boys talk about the world and cool things. "thank you all for sticking around" - Matt

It takes a certain kind of man with a certain reputation to alleviate the cash from a whole entire nation. Take my loose change and build my own space station. It'll be good again. Ain't no refuting or disputing, I'm a moderate spew. So contract disputes to some brutes in La Boutine. Act high for lube while my boys put the boots in. Do it again, again. Spasibo!

Party like a Russian. End of discussion. Dance like you got concussion on. Put a doll inside a doll. Party like a Russian. Disco seduction. Party like a Russian. Alvin like an oligarch.

This is nine. We're at one episode nine. Here we are. We're live, dude. We're live. Episode nine. Yep. And we were going to have all con us too.

But he went to jail. He was starting hobo fights down under and they caught him. Apparently all Shirley doesn't like entertainment. Sorry, New Zealand, I'm sorry. I blame Cole and his risky mismanaged moral compass. So now it's just me and Matt. But yeah, so you wanted to talk about... We really don't...

I mean, I want to talk about AI. You want to talk about South African arms dealing. Let's get it. Well, I mean, last time... This is a free episode, so... You guys... Can't go too crazy. No, it was funny because we were talking about Timothy McVeigh

and all that stuff and the guys were in the discord. Dude, I mean... And they were like, holy fuck. That is the greatest shit. I know it was just a rant. But anyway, AI, go on. Let's hear about AI. What have you been reading and doing this week?

Teach me about AI. So when it comes to AI, we have all these pictures. Remember Donald Trump's going to get indicted a few weeks ago? And there's all these pictures of him coming out in chains in orange or whatnot. But then there's also these AI voice recordings coming out of like... Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, George Bush, George Bush saying 9-11 never happened or how he planned it and him and Dick Cheney and all these things. And that essentially today, you can't trust anything.

You can't trust anybody because you can even watch a AI voice recording over a picture of, say, Joe Biden. And they manipulate the data and the pictures where they pixelate him saying the exact words you're looking at. And you're like, it sounds like Joe Biden wants to go to war with China. And if the Chinese see this, that's a fucking problem. And it's an AI, but the Chinese don't know any better because they don't have the same tools we do.

So, or he has something like... Oh, man, like the AI is so crazy where you can have something like... Donald Trump saying that January 6th was good. He was like, we should take our country back. And then there's an AI photo of him with Trump in the background, which is 1984 style. He was like, you will not drink and drive, one of those things. But it's...

We're getting to the point where AI is creeping into civilization. To where people like news puns like Tucker Carlson or even Hassan Piker, the extreme right and the extreme left, the media platform are believing these things. And so if we have someone like Hassan Piker or Tucker Carlson, Tucker Carlson, they're hard right. You're boomers, they like to listen to him. You have your Hassan Pikers, you're unemployed,

20-year-olds like to listen to him, right? If they all listen to him and they are both getting their information from a bullshit AI voice recording, which is pitch perfect to Donald Trump's mannerisms. But then you have someone with a speech pattern of Obama who is very charismatic, very intelligent man. But they put that over him reviewing Call of Duty Zombies maps. Like, dude, I couldn't tell you the difference.

It's insane. So I think when it comes to something like AI, Americans are very stupid to work with. But also, it's going to get so much worse. I was going to interfere with the next election because, 2016, everyone always talked about Russian interference. The media portrayed Russian interference in the election as the Russians tapped into every single electronic voting box

and said, vote Trump. In reality, they flooded every single Twitter platform and Instagram and Facebook and everything else with like laxative commercials. So they would drown out the other, the opposing party. But they just wanted to see if it worked. So the Chinese did this again in 2020, when Joe Biden became president,

they flooded it with like stop Asian hate. So they flooded it with hashtags where the Russians went traditional method, just drown it out. The Chinese went like, oh, what's wrong? I'm in this way. But then if we have something like AI, dude, it's fucking crazy where Americans can't tell you anything to begin with.

Number two, we have an election coming up in a little over a year. Number three, it's someone like the Russians, the Chinese, they're not stupid. Russians are dumb. They're not stupid. Chinese are very smart. And they're going to take advantage of it very quickly. It's, we can laugh all day about how the US president is playing

the Call of Duty Zombies map, you know, fucking, Nocturne Toten is, it's healing the nation. We can laugh about that. However, it's a real thing because people watch this the presidents are playing Call of Duty together. I mean, we talked about this as like a, like, how do you use this? Cause like the AI generated art and pictures,

we were joking like neckbeards could then have a waifu, like AI girlfriend who is also drawing pictures and sending like nudes and like you have like an interactive AI girlfriend who sends you nudes and stuff like that. We were joking about that. Like neckbeards are going to be, they won't be able to reproduce anymore because they'll have AI fake lives.

But it was also something we talked about. I think I either talked about it with you or another buddy, but we were talking about like clandestine operations and how you can use, I'm going to say CP or cheese pizza and you'll catch my drift, but you can AI generate that and then use chat meet GBT to teach you how to hack somebody's IP address and just load their, their drives with CP and then call the police and be like, yeah, he's got cheese pizza on his computer.

And then are, do you really think the local PD is going to be able to tell the difference between AI art and like real and fake cheese pizza? Do you know how many people are going to get away with that? Do you know how many people are going to be arrested for that? Like if bro, come on, like you could do so much damage to somebody's life with fake. So we have someone like a, we have some like, what's his name?

Matt Walsh, his Twitter got hacked and he just, he quote, unquote sent the N word to like all of his followers. Yeah. And everyone's like, like, uh, what do you do? He commented on that reel to Joe Rogan and then he got his account back. He's like, that wasn't me and Joe Rogan's like, yeah, I kind of figured, but the amount of people who thought he went off the

rails and started saying these things, you're like, you're just on pikers. I mean, oh man, your pundits in the news are just trying to look for something to say and they're going to drum it up. So even if it's a scam, even if it's AI, they're going to drum it up because they want news, they want media, they want something to talk about because 9 11, let's be honest, the pinnacle of news to talk about after that.

Like what else do you have to talk about? Cast and trees. No one wants to hear about that. They want to hear about how Bill Clinton murdered a guy over a fucking grilled cheese sandwich. Yeah. I mean, we did it. You did it as an experiment.

I don't know if you want to tell everybody that you did that with Carl Toyn. Like we did one. We did one. I'll tell you that. Like I did one. So for the listeners out there, it was like January last year, 20 22.

And there was all these rumors that the Russians were massing in the border. And I thought, well, if they're massing in the border, soldiers no soldiers. Soldiers are horny. Soldiers want to fuck something. So what I did is I made a tender. And I used a picture of Nick Mullen from the come town

podcast and I deep faked him as a woman. I said he was, I said his name was Sasha. She was very cute. She was 30 years old with an Adidas like hoodie on. I did that. Yeah. And I sent my location to the Donetsk airport and the amount of Russian soldiers I found inside Ukraine, moving from

like the Nets to Sumi to Kharkiv to fucking Kiev, all these places. I found so many Russians. I'm like, you know, you and I have talked about this like the Russian deep operations. I'm like, they're already in the country. Yep. But it's soldiers.

No soldiers like soldiers. That's soldiers. It's like, I was like, Oh, these guys. So what I did, I was like, I must have found five or 10 in the first hour and a half. And I deleted the account and was like, I don't know what's going on. I don't know where I'm going with this.

I was just kind of, but I found it and it's like, and that's not even AI. That's just poking around. Yeah. Deep fake pictures and some snapchat filters. So I found two things with this and it's going to sound hilarious. Number one.

Obsessing the Russian military is very bad. Number two. Turks are horny and they like to speak English. How much for the weaving? They would always, they would always mess with me. Like, uh, English question mark. And I would say, and they were like, why not? They're learning motherfucker.

Oh, but then you start to think to yourself, like, why are you based of, uh, Ankara and looking for girls inside the nets? Like, what are the Turks doing? You know, like what is, what's going on here? Someone else had the same idea I had where it's trying to get blonde women to come to Turkey. Pretty much. Yeah.

I mean, like it. So. I learned a lot in that, like that drunken six hour period. But yeah, I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. I mean, that was something that, uh, some of the guys were talking about on another podcast, not like the Intel community, but it was like, uh, I'm not going to say the one, but they were talking about how like the blue check mark is

like a super cool thing for dudes because it's like, it's like, you know how women are on Tinder? They have all the choice in the world. If you have a blue check mark on Instagram, they're like, it's life changing, bro. But one of the guys said that he was blackmailed by a dude who used deep fake AI generated stuff like art and like texting to send it to him to get him to send dick pics and nudes back.

So the blue check mark guy was like sending nudes and then they got him and they're like, yeah, send 10 grand mother fucker. And it's like, so the nefarious, like you're saying, we got an election next year, bro. It's about, we're about to see an AI revolution as far as like using it AI nefariously. Like it's going to be wild. I think the biggest wrench in the whole chain is RFK junior who

number one, the media is trying to paint him as an anti-vaxxer, but he said, don't get the vaccine until we know what's going on there where he's a straight shooter. He's very much not a part of the establishment, but you know for a fact that each side is going to try to crush him. And we know for a fact that if AI is already powerful right now, wait till next year when RFK junior is getting his gears going because how many people like Donald Trump?

How many people like Biden? They want a third option. The third option is always like the one that comes up in like the media. No one wants to vote libertarian. No one wants to vote house cat, but it's, oh man, it's going to get so much worse. It's going to get so intense. And I hesitate to say the word, what's the word?

It's frightening. Is that a good word for it? It's like, because like we're Americans, dude. Americans are stupid. Americans don't read books anymore. What's the last, if you walk up to any Americans say, what's the last book you read? We're going to say, I don't know, probably junior high.

And they skimmed it. And then if you, if you meet someone who reads books, you can actually have a conversation. But if you start to, what's the risk piano, the cookie cutters? We're just like, yeah, we got, we got cookie cutter Americans. Like they're just like copy, paste, you know, spew current agenda. And like, dude, AI is going to be such a fucking nightmare. When it comes to next year, because we have an election next year.

It could go either way. I mean, like everyone has their own personal politics, but the next, this midterm was just the beginning. Wait until 2028. Wait until 2032. When 2020, I don't even want to think about that. Don't just stop. Where it's like AI sex bots who look like people.

Who talk like people in Saudi Arabia. They have these machines that look like people. Her name is like Sophia. She looks like a person. Sophia. I'm looking at this. It's straight up. It's like Wayland, Utah.

It's from the alien movies where it's a, you know, crew expendable. People don't matter. We only care about the mission. And so if you want to think about this in like very, you know, anti-capitalist way, you're like, yeah, I mean, the companies only care about their own. You're like, true, you know, real thing. But on top of that, it's, we have these machines that can replace us. So what do you do with a generation of disenfranchised people who don't know what to believe?

Yep, you're right. I'm looking at it right now. It's a little creepy, but yep, it's there. We're probably, dude, 2028 is going to be baller. I can't wait. It's going to be a mess. Oh my God. So it doesn't, it doesn't matter if it, it doesn't matter if like 2024 goes, you know, blue or

red, 2028 is going to be a fucking bloodbath. And guess who needs to invade Taiwan by 2049. Jesus Christ. What do you do with the population of men who don't know what the internet is? You've got four years to get your vegetable garden and chickens in order, because the world ends in 2028. Oh my God. It does.

That's it. I mean, we can say 2026 because midterms, midterms, midterms. Yeah, it's. Well, yeah, I mean, think about it, right? So like you're, you're just ranting here. Imagine like some poda, I mean, because I'm Tennessee, right? Some podunk Republican, right? Who's always held his position in Tennessee and you're the Democratic Party and you need

to oust this dude, right? Like so you can get votes, but you're not going to get money from the Democratic Party, right? They know that that counties are red. They're not going to change red. Why put money on a losing horse? So what do you do? How do you become the next big Democratic candidate? You use free AI, AI and all types of stuff to shit down your opponent's throat.

I mean, bro. It basically creates like, I mean, how many kids are cheating using chat GBT right now? I mean, chat GBT. All of them. Yeah. I mean, look at, look at something like chat GBT. We have, there's memes going around, but in 20, let's say 2035, how many heart surgeons lied?

Yeah. And how many people are going to die because they use chat GBT. They just made it up, right? And as long as you, when it comes to chat GBT, you have to like course correct the information. You just can't say like how to do open heart surgery into chat GBT. You have to say, well, if I'm going to do this, then this, then this, then this, then this, then this, then this, right? An alternative scenario.

And then rewrite it so I can put it that in the paper. And it's brother. It's. I was, I'm looking for it right now, but chat GBT did pass a Google interview and it wasn't just like any Google. It was a level three engineer with 120 K salary. So basically chat GBT is a level three, I like technical engineer encoder for Google. And dude, I, I mean, would, if I was in computer programming and it and shit, I would, I would

100% do that. Cause I mean, like I, there was a post about a guy who had like eight jobs working from home as like an IT professional. If you've got chat GBT right next to you too, like dude, you're basically like using AI to run eight different jobs that you already have to then give it like, oh my God, bro, the future is going to be fucking wild. And exactly like, I love that the, the country cutter Americans, bro, they're going to be, they're fucked.

They're so fucked. So I mean, you and I have talked about this before that if you go to the Midwest, you go to like Gary, Indiana, or Detroit, Michigan, or Chicago, Illinois, they're always going something like buy American. That's, you know, Americans from the Midwest, like Americans, not someone else. How many want to go to a factory? How many want to work? Part of the life in the US went up as soon as the factory was left.

China's having the same problem. They had the same problem we did in the 1950s where they didn't want to work anymore. They wanted to enjoy their lives because human condition is I want to be easier for my kids. But if your kids have nothing to work for, you can't, it's like reversing, like we talked to the FFL guy, it's reversing this like downward trend of making life so easy. How do you make soldiers out of people who refuse to go to the gym? It's, and so it's something like AI dude. I don't know.

It's, there was a, I saw one and I would have to actually, if you give me a few seconds, I'll dig them up. The, I want to say it was Google or Yahoo. They were doing their own AI and within 30 seconds they were like, what do you want to do with people? And they said, put them in people's zoos. So they're like, well, society cannot sustain itself. We got to put them in zoos.

And like it's, it's the most logical direct point. It's kind of, it's people are not allowed to be with their own thoughts for too long. And I keep saying that, like the West cannot play with their own thoughts. That's why we keep playing wars. So it's, oh man, it's like, what do you do with this? It's, once it started, you can't, it's Pandora's box dude. It's open. How do you and I profit from AI?

How do we, besides getting IT jobs because I'm not going back to school for computer science. Like I know. So if we can't do it for that, maybe you and I just run a news page and we just use chat gbt to write all of our stuff. And we just use AI to monitor like Twitter feeds and just post writeups like find stuff that people are most likely going to be interested in. And then we have chat gbt right about it.

That's what we do. That's what you and I are going to, yeah. Yep. I'm talking to Chad. I'm going to call Chad and we're going to set this up. We're going to chat gbt run the Instagram page. Yeah. It's, I mean, so talking about the Russians.

So Twitter, right? Before Elon Musk took over, bot accounts are a real thing. And so what the Russians said, they would buy, they would buy like one person would run, I want to say anywhere between 50 and 135 bot accounts. Just spamming, just shooting it. Panera was good today shooting it into the boy. And so when someone like NATO does an exercise, they would drown out the noise. So no one someone NATO was doing.

Unless you follow NATO and get the notifications every time NATO posts, no one's going to see it. And that's what the Russians did. It was never about tapping into like, you know, voting booths or anything like that. It was drowning out the noise and it was a test and this was 2016, 2015. Like they're trying to, I don't want to say that they definitely pointed down Trump's in the right direction. I think he was just like, you say like a Molotov cocktail into like downtown DC. To see if it would work.

And they're like, oh, it does. Then the Chinese do that. But the Chinese also have the tools to make AI girls, life use. And then if we have a, if they're number one enemy is Japan, who number one have a low birth rate, number two only have girls, number three refuse to fuck each other. Get rid of your, what's the old Arab saying? Kill the near front or near foe first. We'll focus on the far enemy later.

And so that's what they do. It's, you cannot, you cannot mentally associate like Arab thinking to like foreign policy of the Russians. Hmm. But they have Muslims in the ranks and they understand how deep doctrine works. You've talked about this and I hate to sound like I'm insane here. But it's like, I don't get some power hour. Yeah. It's like Americans don't think about these things.

Like the Brits are, they're still dogged out in Brexit. They figured it out. The French, they raised the minimum wage or not minimum wage retirement age to 64 countries in right Germany. They deactivated all the nuclear reactors. Now they're solely dependent on Russian oil. Good job guys. You're saving the economy. You're saving the environment.

We have some like Australia alone and afraid out in the Pacific alone and afraid because the Japanese don't have kids. The Chinese are simply self-sufficient, simply on survival and New Zealand is in bed with the Chinese. So it's like, what do you do? What do you do? Is 2028 the catalyst? Is this it? Is that when the Chinese are going to invade all Constance 2026? I'm not going to say that he's wrong because I haven't done too much research in that because that's more of his baseball game.

But it's like, what do you do? AI is so fucking powerful. And if we have, we're not to like Blade Runner times where we can have like a robot, like a sex robot walking around like flirting with you. So you can like blow your load inside them and you know, get rid of your own gene pool. But it's, that might be a thing here soon. I don't know. We joked about it. Yeah, it's true.

It's going to be a thing. Yeah. It's like the Blade Runner. What was her name? Priss? Her name Priss in the movie Blade Runner. Darrell Hannah, how she was the, she was the butt. And she would just float around, you know, flirt with boys.

And how do you, how, if you get to the point where you can't tell and they bleed the same we do, how do you tell? They bleed red and alien they bleed milk. It's like a white milk paste. So like that's a good, you know, safe goat, but then Blade Runner bleeds red. So what do you do at that point? Like, how do you know what do you do? What do you do as a civilization? What does civilization mean at this point?

What does America means at this point? When Elon took over Twitter, didn't he say that it was like, well, they told him in the classification documents when he was like going to buy it. They said that like 30% of the Twitter accounts were bots. And then he got in there and he already like made a pre deal. Like he said, I'll buy it for two billion or whatever. And if I don't, you get however much money. And then they gave him the documents and he was like, holy fucking shit. Like it wasn't 30%.

It was something like, it wasn't 30%, it was something like 65 to 70%. And so he was like, can you identify what's a bot and what's not? And the company said no. And so what do you do at that point? We're already there. Chad was saying it for those who don't know when that goes on vacation here. By the way, yeah, I'm going to a prison for a few weeks. I'll be back.

I was a man boy. Chad was telling me he's like, not only can he make Twitter bots, but he can utilize machine learning so that the bot will create other Twitter bots, like self replicating and create other accounts and then use that to boost and move along with the algorithm. So like you can hire people to do this. And one of the guys in the Patreon was even saying like how he went to an Israeli camp. Like an Israeli cyber camp. He was like, dude, people come in there not knowing even how to put together a computer.

They leave ready to do small scale hacking and bots and stuff like that. And so it's like, what would you say? I wouldn't say like, what's the solution? Because like, I mean, you were saying like the Midwest and all those normal, good, hardworking Americans, they're fucking screwed. But what do you do if you're the average person to prepare for 2028 when AI, machine learning, all these bots, I mean, technically all you can do is turn off the fucking Internet. Yeah, but then it's like, man, who said it?

It was if you read the newspaper, you're misinformed. If you don't, you're uninformed. So I definitely know people in the Midwest who still have chocolate flip phones from the early 2000s. And they have been so very, very simple life. I really envy them because they're not like dialed into how the world works. And they're still thinking like 2002, 2003, we're fighting in Iraq, much like the Afghans did when we showed up in 2002. And they thought we were the Russians. They were like, whoa, like it's they're off the grid.

And it's it's hard to come out and say that they're wrong, but also they're also part of the problem because you're like, brother, you're in America's heartland. You're in a swing state and you don't know what's going on. It's if you're voting red because you're also a part of problem. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And so I, yeah, it's a good point. Like, I mean, hey, if you're a listener out there, like we should, like, what the fuck do you do?

Yeah. And damn it. I guess, you know what you have to do? You actually have to read a book and make a decision for yourself, which is the hardest. So it's it's the hardest thing, right? And because because everything's so political these days, you can't sit down and say like, I made a decision because if your friend group does not agree with you, you're cast aside. The money you do get depressed.

Think about suicidal thoughts because you're by yourself. Everyone calls you wrong. That's a problem. So it's like, but you can't also go to like Barnes and Noble and read a recently published book. If it's like the 17th edition of Kesher and the Rye, they got rid of everything that made that a good book. Or, oh, what was the other one? Yeah, the American education system is getting rid of books like 1984 and Animal Farm. Oh, Jesus.

Yeah, you didn't see that yet. It's like 19 and four Animal Farm. Animal Farm is one of my favorite books. Yeah. What's the one with Scout? Atticus Finch. Atticus Finch. To kill a mockingbird.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, wait, wait, wait. So the American education system is getting rid of these books because they're quote unquote, you know, oppressive or contradictory to thought where it's like, Brother, man, that's why these books were written. Everybody look at its Fahrenheit 451. Like, do we get rid of that book?

Like, go on, do it. Burn the book. Yeah. So if you look at Fahrenheit 451, everyone talks about, you know, Nazis are bad, universally agreed statement. They burned books. What was it like 1933 when Heather became Chancellor? But in America, we on both sides cancel the voices on either side. So is it a, is it a linear point to canceling the other person because you're just getting worse if you do that?

Because it's, it's like, I'm not trying to put this to words right now. It's, I wish the viewers could see this. You start good, regardless if you go right or left, you always meet in the middle of canceling everyone out becoming a fascist. Yeah. That's how it works. It's regardless if you're a socialist or a conservative, you just show up there. Yeah, that's what they teach you. And I'm a political science major and you're exactly right.

It's not a line. It's a circle. Like you literally, and like you said, Animal Farm is a book about the wrongs of communism. And then 1984 and Fahrenheit 451 and to kill a mockingbird, like those are books about racism and fascism. And it's like both sides are canceling each other's books. And you just have to sit there and go, Jesus Christ, is it really that bad? I mean, I know people hate Millie, including you, but General Millie even said it. He's like, I've read Mao.

I've read Che Gueira. Like I, I'm not a fucking communist and I'm not a Cuban rebel. He's like, I need to read the enemy's literature to understand them. So, I mean, so, I mean, dude, you and I are both analysts and in the military of all things. And so like, you look at something like ISIS and they read this book called the, what is it called? What is it called? The management? Well, the Quran, yeah.

Oh, it's written by a Mujahideen fighter in the 1980s. It was called like the management of savagery or something like that. And you're like, how you build the caliphate and how you win against the West, because they weren't training to fight the Russians. They were training to fight us. They were just learning, you know. And so, but if Americans looked this up in their own computer, they're flagged as an insurgent or a terrorist or an waslas. But how can is, how can an American analyst read about ISIS and try to defeat them if you don't read their own stuff?

It's like, it's like, if you're playing a war game, right? You're playing in Hearts of Iron Four and you don't know how to, if you play the Americans only and you're like, why do I keep losing against the Germans? If you don't look at the Germans doctrine, you're not going to win. They go over there and check it out. Like, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, you're going to poke around. But I mean, in America today, you can't do these things because you're going to get flags like an extremist or something like this.

Or, you know, sympathetic, because if you like to defend Americans sat down, who is not by destination a Russian language and you're poking around in the Russian background? Brother. Like, like, is there a reason you're very interested in Russia? Might be a problem. I don't know. I don't know. This guy's put on a list or he's, um, we have something. Oh, what is the, uh, what is the fucking book?

I'm trying. I'm so sorry, guys. I keep swearing the, um, I'm trying to like put words together here. It's, it's, uh, man, it's. Americans kneecap their own intelligence agency so much that once the military actually gets a leg up, the Intel guys knew six months ago, but no one wanted to listen to them. So if you read Mao and you want to fight, say the Cubans or in 1960s timeframe, you read Mao, you read the little green book of Gaddafi, you read Marx, you read the works of Stalin. If you do that today, you're like, is there a reason you're doing this? Not once can you defend yourself by saying, yeah, this is, uh, for my professional development.

But if you do this under free time, because you think it's very interesting, you think you should know. They're going to question you. And it's, it's kneecapping your own guys. And so at this point, you're like, so what do we have? There's this old joke that, uh, you know, all analysts are alcoholics because like they have all the answers or they know what's going on. They're like, well, that didn't work. Might as well get drunk. Like no one listened to me.

It's, it's funny because like, so most people, I was watching this and it was like, they were talking about like England and freedom of speech and like stuff like that. Like you're saying, like beginning on watch list for looking up certain books and reading certain materials. God, God forbid you look up the, uh, what is it? Anarchist cookbook or whatever. But, um, Oh man, that one. Yeah. What was it?

Anarchist cookbook, uh, messages were inside soldier and affortune magazines back in the 1980s and 90s. Like it was like how to make a pipe bomb and people were blowing themselves up. Because we're not good. Yeah. But I mean, it's, it's funny because like England has a higher incarceration rate than Russia for shit like that. Like freedom of speech and like freedom of like reading and stuff like that. It was like 88 people in Russia versus like hundreds in Britain for saying and reading certain things. Like, well, you got a license for that book.

But, um, I mean, it's, you're exactly right. Isn't it funny that like the West knows how to fight a war, but Russia is like one of those. Like real Russians and like, so it's like in Moscow read other people's literature like Nietzsche and yeah. Did I, did I say this on the free episode or was it the bonus one? Well, if people would pay for the Patreon, they would let them figure it out. But it's like, why is the West so good at fighting wars? Why has America been at war for every year except like eight years of our existence? You're like, because we're afraid to be alone with our own thoughts.

When someone's alone with their own thoughts, grab yourself, you know, say your construction work, you know, you put in your veteran, you put it in four years for the military, you come back, you work 12 hour construction, you go back to your place, you grab a couple of nice twisted T's and you sit down and watch the TV and then you're alone. What do you do? That's America. Like, do you get suicidal because most people do? Or do you get like homicidal and you're like, I'm going to go after somebody else. Or, and that's pretty much like, yeah, you're like, oh, it's not me. Someone else is and they start pointing the fingers and then you think that these same people are in politics where the dumbest person you went to school with is now making national level decisions. Thinking that we should really take care of what it means to be an American.

But if you ask them, they don't know because but it's, it's, you know, the answer is definitely not stop immigration because we're in a nation of immigrants. But then as soon as people get comfortable, they think it really doesn't have culture, right? We really don't. We borrow everything. You're like, we asked kind of the bit, right? That's kind of our whole thing. Like we were a melting pot. That's kind of our whole agenda.

Like we're, we're supposed to take from the Irish and the English and the Hispanics and the Asians were supposed to pull this into one big melting pot and make it ours instead of that's why we have so many national holidays. But if you get bored and there's no war, there's no existential threat like there was with the Russians for 70 years, something like that. You sit there and you start to think and then you turn on each other and that's when it becomes a problem. That's when it becomes a, the fight or flight inside of you is no longer who's out there. It's not the boogeyman in your closet. It's, you know, who's to your right and left. And no one, if you drop your wallet today, who's going to stop and say like, sir, you dropped this or if someone gets in a fight on a subway, who's going to break it up? No one will because they don't want to be painted as the bad guy.

No one's going to do these things. And so I think, I think America will go to war here soon simply because they want to push that way, way, way because they saw 2020. They saw Donald Trump. They saw 2020. They saw 2021. They saw this current economic whatever this is where no one has any money. You're like, you know what makes money? Wars.

So hey, Sudan. Hey, go to go to war. Go to war. Yeah. What do we do? Sudan blows up. Thank God. Does it make sense?

It's like, I'm not rambling here. It's well, I mean, on top of that, you I'm a big proponent of like, I mean, as long as you create, keep creating division within the country and everybody's fighting each other, then you don't have to worry about the billions in truth. Like everybody says like, ah, the fucking global war on terror costs $2 trillion. And then you got to like, nobody ever follows that down the road and goes, where did that two fucking trillion dollars go? Raytheon, Boeing, like this 1% of the 1% and. Yeah, it's a, I think it's really funny when like American veterans are very much like a socialist idea where it's like, I'm not advocating for or against, but they're like, you know, we had free health care. The government should step in and help us. You're like, cool.

How much, how long did it take you to get printer paper in your office? Like, dude, how much is a pack of how much is a pack of big pen? I promise you they're not 60 cents. I promise you they're like $34. So it's, and that's when it's. The separation is really hard. And when you're sitting alone with your own thoughts, like it's. Especially if like you're a drinker or something like that, like most Americans are.

So if you sit down and start to think you're like, either. No. They're the enemy. You have anything in your hands. So that's why the military has to go out of their way to get rid of them. It's. So you got to crush that like military cultural spirit of like, well. Can't have any soldiers that want to do their own job because they think that if they lose a war.

The government did them wrong. We have a Timothy McVeigh. We have an Oklahoma City bombing. And so I personally believe that it's the catalyst for a lot of these things. But it's and you can, you know, you can disagree, but. I want to say after a lot of stuff that happened in the last 30 years. The golf course, the last big push, like we flex so hard on the world. And then we went back to Iraq in a three and got stuck.

And then we're stuck. Well, that's going on there. And it's. Yeah. Sorry to like fire hose everything. And that's 37 minutes in, baby. Yeah. I mean, that's what they, they talk about when they talk about like veteran suicide is like the three triggers.

I don't remember all of them, but the one that stuck out to me was veterans are trained at boot camp. Like the machine gun crawl. And everybody knows that you crawl under the live fire machine guns to get you used to the fact that you're going to be uncomfortable doing things. But you still have to push through the uncomfortable. And that's what they say is like, once you learn that once you do that, it's a real big catalyst for suicide because you are willing to do things that go against your survival instincts. Like it only takes five pounds to bite off your pinky, but your survival instincts in your brain tell you to stop that night. We can't get rid of all of it, but we can teach you to charge through machine gun fire or which then leads to, you know, Timothy McVeigh situations or blowing your brain. Yeah, your most extreme rights in your left.

Whereas like your extreme left, you cap yourself in the government's eyes. One less we have to deal with your extreme rights. They go Timothy McVeigh style where you're like, fuck. Well, yeah. I mean, notice, notice how fast they crack down on the extreme right, right? The fucking ultra pot patriots and all that shit with the FBI. But like, like exactly like you said, like they don't touch the other way, which is suicide. We're up to 44 veterans a day.

Imagine if 44 veterans a day went and shot a fucking place up, bro. That would mean every state, every day would get shot up at least. It's like that's in and like it's exactly. I think you hit it right on the head, but it didn't do it. Like you got to do it better justice, man. It's like, oh, that's good. You killed yourself. That's good.

Like, dude, that's one less Timothy McVeigh. So I mean, like that's, that's wild. It's and it breaks the brain because we see these things in TV all the time. Like, oh, support your veterans or you see someone at like a truck stop, like homeless veteran God bless or something like that. You're like, well, you know, the realist part of me is thinking you're a homeless veteran. Like, what was your MOS? And if they tell you like, you know, 88 Mike, you're like, where were you?

And they won't say anything. You're like, well, you're a liar. So like, so no one's going to want to care about those guys because most point of quote, homeless veterans who self-proclaim as Christians are not. They're not either. But then on the other side, you have, you have the ones who are like hanging out the VFW just drinking away the war, you know, it's what's that old saying? Yeah.

You know, the war is not over till the last man dies. It's so they just keep going. And when it comes to something like the VFW or not the VFW, the VA, it's just always this universal cause to fix it. They're like, why are American veterans dying? And you're like, I think they want them to. I think they want them to go away because how many. So Americans current standing military is something like what plus or minus two million

active duty reserves. Yeah. And then like year round year round. But this is not kind of for that two million right now. This is not saying for the last 22 years. Maybe let's, let's go golf or 91. So last 30 years, there's probably something like 40 million veterans rolling around. Trying to figure it out because you go to fight a war, you come back, you have nothing

else to do because you lost the war essentially. And then you're painted as the villain. So what do you do? Do you cap yourself? Not a lot of veterans run around like shooting up schools. It's not a real thing. You have a Timothy and that's like the worst situation you could deal with because they know what they can do.

But the other ones just like to drink themselves away like that. And it's like, oh man, it's. Well, so Stephen, Stephen mentioned this and it's in a, it's in a play. It's in a Shakespeare play. And I don't want to get the name wrong cause I don't want people to like go looking and be like, oh fuck. But John Failstaff from King Henry, the play or yeah. King Henry IV and the very wives of Windsor.

But he was also in the movie, the King where, but nobody, yeah, nobody wants to be nobody, the government and people don't want John Failstaff, which is the veteran who's hanging around in the back going, you don't want war. Stop sending young kids. I mean, my uncle was a Vietnam vet and I fucking remember all the shit he told me with. They went down in his life and then I was like, that's not going to happen to me. But now it has happened to me. We're just, we're no different than the Vietnam vets.

But now, I mean, look at us. You and I right now have an audience of 400 on the podcast, 1600 followers on the fucking Instagram and both of us are like, yeah, you probably shouldn't join the military cause they're going to fuck you over. And so they want us, they want to get rid of us because we're just hanging around telling people the government's going to fuck you. So, dude, like we talked to that FFL guy and, you know, we asked him off the pod. We're like, well, how do you fix the institution?

You get rid of everyone in the background. You get rid of everyone who built it up. And so that's how you create it. So if, how much are you going to put this to words? If you look at a lot of these combat vets, right? Like they sacrificed two marriages for two combat deployments. They got shot. You know, they come back.

They just want to serve the country. They're alone. They're 36 years, 36 or 37. They just have nothing else but the military and the military doesn't want them anymore. They're probably going to kill themselves. And then after that, you have all these new guys that are coming in with the Navy where if you say the word fuck, you're going to get flagged. You're going to get a flag for hate speech.

So it's like, this is like almost Alex Jones territory. It's like you're raising a new military. It's not our military. Like the Marine Corps I am listening is gone. Like that's not a real thing anymore. It's the same thing for the army for you. Like my brother's enlisting and he's telling me stuff and I'm like, bro, that's not the same way.

But it's crazy is I mean, every generation has a different way where when I enlisted I told my dad about the things. He's like, oh, that's not my Marine Corps. But then his dad told him the same things in the 90s. He was like, it's not my Marine Corps. And so it's it's improving. But at the same time, it's improving and getting rid of the lessons learned from the last war. And that's what we do every time, right?

Every war we go to we get our ass. I mean, take Task Force Smith, for example, Korean War. Nobody really learns about this, but it was a World War Two style unit sent to the Korean War and they got their dick slapped. Absolutely thrashed by the North Koreans. And nobody hears about that. What happens is in times of war, we go straight down, but then we come up like we lessons learned just like the Russian Army is doing in Ukraine.

We get our dick slapped. We learn a ton of shit. We learn more. We get better. But Task Force Smith happened to that in Korea. We had that happen in Vietnam. How many guys died until we figured out like, oh, shit, like we're dealing with the Viet Cong.

Like we got to fight this war differently. I mean, the same thing happened in Iraq. I mean, I bro, holy shit, one of the videos that like, yeah, no, I'm serious. If you're a veteran or you know a veteran, go look up Iraq Suicide Bomber. Just a 030405 because here's the thing by the time we came in, we knew like keep your distance from them. They have grenades. They have suicide vests.

030405. We didn't know that shit. And so my buddies, my buddies like this is the first recorded, he sent me the first recorded video of a suicide bomber and the whole time I'm like, stop it. Stop him. And they don't know. They don't know what's walking towards them. What's crazy though, brother man, brother man.

Viet Cong did the same thing. Viet Cong has suicide bombers. We watch platoon. We watch full metal jackets. They run into our bunkers and we forget so easy. We talk about the Russians and we joke about how stupid the Russians are with their tactics. They're like, no, I mean, I have on my shelf over there, you know, bear went over the mountain. We have all the tactics written by their officers.

They're intel analysts and they didn't learn a single thing. They use George as their catalyst for like modernization. They should have used afghan. But then it's really hard for us to go any different because we fucked up in Vietnam. We did really good in the golf war and we said the golf war is the only way to go. We never once pivoted away from that. We did a little bit, you know, you know, here and there we had what was his name fucking General Amos.

And who's the other one who wrote the book? How to win a counterinsurgency in nine or two thousand three. Petra is who copied the Marine Corps handbook. It was fucking stupid. How to win an insurgency. And we lost. And so like part of me, like if I was a if I was a 42 year old veteran pissed off that I lost a war, I'd go to his house. Be like, Hey fucker.

Sign my book. What is this? Sign this for me. All nine of my friends are dead. Like it's so it's like it's so I mean, so if you want to look into like the big picture, how do most societies treat their veterans? Because it's when wars happen, when wars happen, everyone loves the military because no one wants to do it. Although those chosen few, right? The chosen few have nothing else.

The chosen few have nothing else because most people who want to be soldiers have nothing else. The age of serving your country is long gone. There's more people in Silicon Valley wanting to fight for the warfighters than to be an actual warfighter. Like a pounce here, these fucking losers. But it's like, but it's like, it's like, let's look at a 1982. Arsenteens vade the Falklands. England musters every single able body mail. They smoke checked the fuck out of the Arsenteens on the other side of the world.

Came back. Who talks about Arsenteens veterans? No one. Nobody. England never talks about they talk about how they, you know, got their ego back after the Suez crisis in 1953. But no one talks about the veterans. I have never met a Falkland or veteran and I don't think I ever will. No, but in England, they don't talk about it.

If you go to France and you're talking about the, what was it called? Algerian Wars. That went for 20 years. No one talks about the veterans. France doesn't care. The Russians are the only people who care about their veterans. And it's because Vladimir Putin shows up in 1999 and he goes, yeah, they're a tool for the state. And so it's like, are you a tool for political end states?

And that's essentially what you are. If you're a veteran who has nothing else to do, if you lost a war, you won a war, it doesn't matter. You're a veteran. Are you a tool for the end, end justifies means like in a Machiavellian way? Or are you thrown away because your job's over? It's. And it's like, it's one of those like, you know, I hate to say the term philosophical, but like, what do you do with these guys?

Because if AI shows up and we have something like AI talking about Donald Trump, this or Ron DeSantis, that or Joe Biden, this or RFK Junior, that. And then we have the veterans who travel the world, but then are branded like insane or something like that. Cause they're like, oh, you're a loser. You lost a war. No one's going to listen to them. No veteran wants to participate in politics because they're like, these losers sent us to fight

and war and die. But at that point, we have no one who's a veteran inside the government. So in the government, they have no idea what to do because they have no idea how foreign policy works because they've never done it. So like, what do you do with the veterans? Marcus, the trail up there on the sea. Dude, it's. It's.

Congressman. Dude, like. I would not want to have Marcus, the Charles, my Congressman. But it's like, it's, it's like, it's a real thing though. It's like, what do you do with like 22 million Americans who fought for the last 22 years? And then like, that's it. There is one. I mean, yeah, that's.

Like, what do you do? I mean, for those who are listening, don't know, like, yeah, I'm an Afghan vet and I'll be the first to tell you, society thinks that like we're a drag. I mean, I was, I was reading. I mean, we still got to do it, but, uh, sinky boys and like all those, all those letters and all the things that they're saying, I'm like, Jesus Christ, it's no different here. I mean, and everybody sits there, like you said, it's like, I call it Walmart patriotism. There's about a $5 flag at Walmart.

And that's about it. Like, right? Like, oh, support your troops. Okay. How about you vote to give me better healthcare? Fuck you. Like, fuck you. And so you're like, oh, pal, there's potholes in the road.

Yeah, come on. Do your part. But it's, but it is. You're, you're an anchor on the shoes of society. Like you're something that like, even if like when like desert storm bets, there's a whole tease called desert storm syndrome. And like, nobody gives a fuck. Nobody's, nobody gives a fuck.

Cody, I mean, so. Like, I just AFV about this. I'm like, is this a real thing in England? He's like, oh yeah, like golf horror syndrome is a real thing. And okay, because they sent how many thousands of boys in Iraq and their government wants them to die off as well. They're like, just go away. Just go away.

We don't want to deal with this. Here's your bottle of schnapps. Go away. Like it's, and it's for the listeners, go to a VFW and talk to anybody. They're anywhere from the ages of like 26 ish. Like the last kind of vets are like 26, like 70. And they're just waiting to die. They're all single.

Yeah. If they're married, their marriage is on the rocks or they've been separated for a long time. They're just waiting to go. So it's, I hate to sound so depressing, but it's like. How do you fix the military for the next one? Because if you force out all your good boys, then it's. Well, you got to get rid of them because they know the truth, right?

Like we know the truth. And it's like, we're hanging around and we're like, hey, it'll set you free. Yeah. These leaders are fucking lying to us. There's going to be a Chinook on the embassy in like 10 years. They're going to quit once they've made all their money. And it's like, but I was going to say, like, it's even, what's the worst thing is like when like every four years, the Republicans go on this fucking freedom tour and they're

like, we support our veterans. And then today, literally. Seeing once a veteran, bunch of fucking losers, bunch of whole smoking losers who wouldn't play for their own country, but out here supporting us. Come on. But it's not that they use it. They use veterans as like a talking point and then all these like Midwestern Republicans are like, I support our troops.

And then like literally today, the Republicans under, I think it's McCarthy just said that it wasn't McCarthy. Yeah. They want to that the House Speaker just voted to reduce VA healthcare by 22% iconic number. But yeah, he literally just said he wants to cut the budget to VA healthcare by 20. It's the same time that it comes out that, uh, what was it? The, uh, if you have a flak of score of a 680 or above credit score that you're getting

taxed 15 to 20% more than everyone else. Same day. And you're like, so it's hold up. Let me, let me clarify that because this is, I have a theory and it's mostly Sam Hyde. Okay. Uh, it's all, it's Craig Maxing. It's Craig Maxing. Um, so if you have a FICO score over 740, you will incur a 1% penalty to your mortgage

payment per month. So every, like if you have a $500,000 house, I think it's like 1% will be tacked on so that people with a credit score 680 and below can get a deduction on their mortgage over the month. So you're essentially as of May 1st. If you take out a mortgage, you're going to be paying for somebody else's mortgage. And my theory is that we go Sam Hyde, Craig Maxing. We use credit cards to buy Bitcoin, sell the Bitcoin.

My credit goes to, my credit goes below 680. I haven't spent a dollar. This is all credit card money. My credit score goes below 680. Take the Bitcoin, sell it for cash, use it as a down payment on a house, get a renter in there. All right. They start paying the rent, start paying me some money.

I don't need to pay that fucking credit card off because I want to keep my credit score low so I can get, yeah. And I just keep buying Bitcoin. What's his bit? He's always talking about it. It's like after eight years, they don't care about you. Yeah. He's like, your credit score goes up after eight years.

If you don't pay the banks after eight years, it's a way. It gets washed away. Yeah, it goes away. And you start over. And so it's like, huh, like what, I want to say Sam Hyde was like 23. Yeah. Yeah. Three credit cards and put them all into Bitcoin when they were like six books.

And then he was talking about how you pay a credit repair company and he goes, all they do is call those fuckers who are calling you night and day and they say, show me the receipts. And he goes, and they just give up. And then they knock the debt down from like $8,000 to like $800 that you pay off with the same credit card. And then, but by the way, there's no bonus to having good credit because you're going to pay somebody else's mortgage. We got final properties.

We got a fuck in Mayday. But you know what's terrifying is the weight Sam Hyde has with like your right wing nuts is disgusting because he's very much like an eye, like an ironic guy, but the amount of people who look at him and go, that's a good way to live my life. Dude, absolutely nailed, nailed how to deal with liberals on the interweb. And just weird as fuck and challenge them to a fight. Like a weird as fuck. And just come, kiss me, come, kiss me in real life.

Did you see that one where he infiltrated like the, the Communist Party of Chicago or something like that, Boston? Oh, so he wrote Sam Hyde's like six, four in like 245 pounds. Like he's huge, so he walks into the Communist Party of like Boston and he's walking around talking about how he's a proud Muslim. And so he walks in and they start to close the door. They're like, you're not allowed in. And he's like, he's like, brother, there's the people's court, man.

I'm here to represent the people. You're trying to keep the people. I'm one of the people you're trying to keep me out. And they were like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're not trying to keep you out. We just don't like him. He's like, oh, so you're trying to keep the people down. So you're trying to be a proletariat, right?

You're trying to keep us down. And he's like, they were like, oh, I never said just as much of like fat goober's and so he sits down and so he meets like this, uh, black Israel. Like, like, you know, like one of those guys, he's talking to this black Israel. He's like, yeah, man, I've shook in all the hands, the great Muslims, you know, I've shook in all the hands with the great ones. And this guy is like, what are you talking about? And it's like the same goober from earlier, this communist was like, you know,

this is a socialist haven and we don't think you're fitting in here. And Sam's like, why not? He's like, I'm literally just being myself. And they were like, well, and he says something on the lines of he's like, your mom, he's like, yeah, my mom would fuck you. Yeah, I think she would. So he's like, she would. I probably watched you because I would want to see how you use my mom

and see how I was made. And these guys got so scared. It's it's the perfect move. Like he is. I love Sam. I did. Walking around in a beanie and like a dirty hoodie. Just wearing Roman armor and going to a Ted talk.

Like, like I was like, 2070, 2070. In the future, Israel is going to be wiped off the face of the map. It's not my decision. But bye. And they just sat there. They just sat through it. All right. What do you say?

What else? Yeah, what else do you say? Something like, he's like, in the future, you know, the old are going to be a drain on the ecosystem. So what we have to do is we're going to kill and no one laughs. And he's like, we're just going to kill. We're going to kill the old people. It just shows what you can do with a high biz vest and a clipboard.

Then you look at Canada, where they're like, moding a sister's suicide for their elderly. Jesus Christ. Yeah, I remember they started doing that with like veterans to up in Canada. They're like, have you considered offing yourself? Like, oh, my God, you've seen those videos. They're so you have you seen the videos? Yeah, they're there was a lady.

It's the first one. They they see a lady. She's very happy. She's like, you know, I didn't know what to do with my life until the government stepped in and they told me I should kill myself. And you know what? I think it's better for the environment because I want my kids. Number one, she has no kids and she's single.

Number two, she was like, I want my kids to have a better future. And so she asked herself and you're like, you just saved the government five hundred thousand dollars. Let's get into money. Yeah, just this year. But for those who don't subscribe to the Patreon, this is kind of your update on we have a discord where we talk about all types of shit. And I'm going to we're going to spend the next 10 minutes kind of giving you

a quick update on literally fucking all of Africa down there, like Mozambique, Rhodesia, South Africa, because we have a local expert down there. And for those of you who don't know, there is a huge South African arms trade. Jesus Christ, if you what were some of those companies? You're a bathroom, dude. I'm sorry, I thought we were going to be done soon. I'm going to I'm going to piss off. All right, you know, you go pee then.

I'm going to tell people about this. And for those for those who don't know, there is tons of South African arms trade. OK, huge amounts of money sent into this. What they do is they refurbish like M.I.A. tiny D's. We've been looking through flight schools down in Florida. Like, yeah, you can go to Florida and go and fly a hindie. Go fly a Russian attack helicopter.

They also do the big old APCs that are like BTRs, all that stuff. They're actually hiring down in I think it's Fort Worth. They're called Paramount, also drones, apparently. So, yeah, you can get and buy drones from South African arms dealers, but it's all indigenous to South Africa. It's absolutely fucking wild. It makes almost zero sense and it's flourishing. So if you're in international affairs, want to be expert, I highly suggest.

I mean, it's a dollar a week, but four dollars on the page. Sure, on some of the talks we have, I'm getting schooled up on all of this. Some of the things they also do include small arms training. We found a group. Oh, it's called FSC and it's comprised of South African hostage rescue, South African SAS and British Royal Marine Commandos. And you can go spend a month down in South Africa learning how to be a Bush warfighter. They also do reconnaissance courses.

They also do CQB, also do nightfire courses like NVGs and stuff like that. But that's kind of what we got going down there in the discord. Also, we've been tracking down the Rhodesians. We got entry. Yeah, we got entry into the Rhodesian Veterans Association on Facebook. There's tons of Rhodesians in these little Facebook groups. They're all like 60, 70 year olds. But yeah, now we have access to Rhodesians.

One guy, AJ Balam, the writer, the author of Soleus Scouts. And then I also found a Rhodesian Pathfinder, airborne platoon sergeant who went to South Africa and joined that. But like, yeah, we've got all types of shit rocking out in the discord. And also got Wargame Red Dragon. We've been playing squad in Hell at Loose. It's really hard to play squad when I'm learning about like South African nuke programs. Like he was like trying to describe like how the Israelis and South Africans

work together to create South African nukes. And I'm like, man, I'm just trying to find these Marines. Oh, man. Yeah, I was gone for like what, two minutes, three minutes? Maybe five. Yeah, I've been talking. Could have been 50 years, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, so like, so you and. Name undisclosed, we talked about like. South Africa.

And so he mentioned that when the wall came down in Berlin and the Soviet market opened up and everyone had these pocket nukes floating around. Those were kind of like tracked, you know, where these were going. The Soviet Union was a cesspool, but no one talked about Africa. So I'm very well, I'm very well into the weeds of how the post Gaddafi arms market went, where 10,000 manpads just went missing in 2011. They showed up in Yemen, shooting down our toys that we gave to the Saudi Arabians. Anyways, you know, US Mint.

Yeah, yeah, of course. But he was talking about South Africa, about how apartheid's bad. Agreed. They got rid of it, but they had no plan B. They're like, what happens next? So they got rid of the apartheid, but then they had slews of insurgencies that they were already dealing with that were from the Communist Chinese backed parties, the Communist Russian backed parties that didn't like each other.

They were in Angola. They were in Mezzanbeek. They were in today Zimbabwe. They were in Nambia, all these places. The Cubans were there. Huge thing. No one talks about that. They were there for 30 years or 20 years. And when it comes to something like Nambia, who fought in the South African

bush war, never once are Cody and I coming out and saying that the apartheid was good. We're just saying that they had good soldiers. So like the soldiering was good. Somebody was saying in the discord, they said, I can appreciate the art, not the artist. Hitler had some good paintings. I was like, yeah, it's like, I like American beauty. I don't like having space. I'm a sucker for house of cars.

To be honest, but so he said the wall came down. And so what do you do with all these disenfranchised Cuban veterans that fought a 20 year war for nothing? Like they were propped up by a government that doesn't exist anymore. They went back to Cuba, right? But now you have only South Africans and the tables flip upside down that. So what is South Africa? Like something like 9% white and they dominated the entire country

and politics or something like that. It was like something like that, right? Yeah, like some bullshit numbers in terms of like how society should work. And then he's like, well, they got flipped on their head. So a lot of those soldiers either went to like the mercenary work or went to like fucking Russia or Australia to be soldiers and farmers. And then if you see the Wagner guys when they first prodded up, hey, they're like 45 year old.

What a Wagner show up 10 years ago. They were like 40 or 45. 2012, because they approached, I want to say, they approached Eric Prince after or two years before. To do. Yeah, 24. Yeah, 2014. So they they approached Eric Prince of Blackwater two years before 2014.

But yeah, go ahead. Yes, it's like so what do you do with all these guys, right? That it's they had a society, a civilization, I guess, is like because they were their own egos, this and they were cut off from the rest of the world. So they had like this whole thing. They made nuclear bombs. Like they knew what they were doing and it was turned on its head.

So when the apartheid left, they destroyed everything because they're very racist. They're like, no blacks are going to have control of whatever, you know, whatever very racist, right? But then what do you do with all these guys? So what they did is they became soldiers and farmers and other countries. And looking for a new home. But if you meet someone, you're talking about Rhodesia, you meet

someone born in Zimbabwe that's like 42 years old. He's going to say is Rhodesian. He's not going to say Zimbabwe. If you meet a South African, he's going to say he's South African. He's like, I fought for what I thought was right. Like one of these things. And so. Going back to what we were talking about earlier of like,

what does America do with all these veterans? I think something like Zimbabwe and Rhodesia or not Zimbabwe. Rhodesia, South Africa, like the most extreme right where they become like militants and hoodlums around the world. When they're like, they take everything. A literal lesion of Timothy McFace. Just running around doing their own things. And it's this one guy, if you guys show the discord, he's very smart.

He will school you on how Africa works. I've learned so much from him. And it's it's unreal. It's it's unreal. And so it's but like arms dealing, you know, the wall comes down the Soviet Union. The war, the war in Africa is over, quote, unquote, it's over. South Africa, apartheid gone in 1994. Boom. All these toys.

They're in the hands of the people now. Everyone's running around. They're putting them in their basements. They're putting them in their closets. They're pulling very much like a Ukraine today where they put them under their beds, an RPG, an AK and a PKM. They're waiting for the next war. They're not going to give them back to the government.

And that's what they did back in 1994. When did Rhodesia go under 89? I think it was like right. Yeah. 89. Yep. And then South Africa one under in 94, where you're like. Politically, they made the right move. Strategically, they had zero plan B. So they just let the toys go and then boom. 1979. That was it.

Yeah. Right before Reagan. Reagan would have been like, let's go. Like, man, Henry Kissinger, he got his spurs with Rhodesia. We keep talking about this, that America a very racist nation until like what? 1964 and went to Rhodesia in 1965. Like, you guys should cut it out. Jesus.

But yeah, that's kind of like a free 10 minute update about like what we've been doing on the side, a Patreon. We've got 30 spots left. We had somebody sign up when we were fucking doing the big, big, big, big podcast here. So we've got 30 discounted spots left. Dollar a week. Just make coffee at home one day a month extra.

And you got your 420, 125, 450 a month to join the Patreon. We've got all types of fun, exciting things coming down the pipeline. Matt is going. I'm going to jail. I'm going to prison colony. This this week, it's prison. I'm next week. I'm going to tell everybody you're at magic camp like.

Well, hey, fillers. You guys want to see some magic. Just look at this. But yeah, we got. But we've got so we've got at least 12 hours of content on the fucking Patreon. So all the all your heart's content over there. So, you know, while I'm in prison,

our good friend Cole at Alcon sent us the better part of a terabyte of Russian doctrine. So. Oh, my God. Yeah. All right. Yeah, all in Russian. So me sitting here in Surreal, like, who knows how to read Russian, like translating it, dropping it in the Patreon.

And it's really fun for you guys. I read the first one. And if you're a veteran, you understand that like drill is not important. But it's definitely important for building unicohesion, these kind of things like in combat. Never once you're going to have four guys get in a row and shoot at somebody. It doesn't make any sense. But when it comes to like military doctrine, like why you have these things,

it goes back to the Napoleonic era, goes back to the Roman legion era before them, the Greeks, before them, the Peloponnesians. And the Russians believe the same thing we do. It's crazy. They talk about the need for military discipline in the ranks, because they always say stuff like in this document, it was talking about the age of Alexander. And when he went to Afghanistan, then they associated it

to the Soviet troops in Afghanistan a millennia later. And it's insane. I will translate this for all you guys while I'm in prison. And I'll drop it in the the the discord, I guess, maybe a patron, probably a patron. But. Oh, if you guys don't know, Chad, he's coming on. He's very smart. He pinpointed the Russians down to the hour

and how many were going to invade Ukraine a year and a half ago. Well, yeah, I hope you have the bonus episodes. What else? Do we have anything else? I don't think so. Yeah, we're making merch. If you guys know a sweatshop, hit us up, but a good one. Not that one that has like workman's comp and shit. I'm talking like good little fingers.

Can make stitches, dude. So I was laughing at this the other day. So, you know, today's the age of like pro-choice, right? Like, you know, you could choose to do whatever you want, abortion, marriage, all these things. You're like, cool. What if I want to be a child soldier? Is that the line?

Is that the red line? But anyways, all right, everyone, this has been very fun. I'll talk to you guys here in a few months, Cody. You know, it's been very fun. But yeah. Bye. Bye. Bye.