Kitbag Conversations - Proto Kitbag 25: Delightfully Evil

Episode Date: May 2, 2024

After receiving complains about my latest analytical bit "Ukraine: on the drink of collapse", I decided to double down with the topic but having a long discission with our old friend Cody. Throughout this episode, he and I look at: -how Russia punched back against western nihilism -Ukraine is strategically vulnerable without direct US support -and what America's directionless policy in Ukraine means for "victory"

Hello everyone and welcome back. You're in for a treat this week. I'm not sure if you've been listening for a long time but back in the day this is our friend Cody. He was on for a few episodes and he's back and we're going to talk banter about Ukraine. So what's going on man? What's going on man? Just so everybody knows I I'm sick when I'm going to you, so I sound like a mom who works at the Dalit general and smokes a pack a day. So it's on the tail end, but we're good. And you know, I may be sick, but we've been just, what, shitposting? We did one shitpost and pissed everybody off on the page.

The funniest thing is I posted a picture of Alex Jones had nothing to do with Vizovic and everyone's like, what does that have to do with anything? I was like, I'm practically Alex Jones, he says, I don't know. Yeah, dude. I saw, who was it that I posted? Because just so you know, Kroatoan is not. Why should I say some guys are nice and trucking? Oh, jeez. Sorry about that. Yeah, that was me. Oops. So like, Kroatoan is like a conglomerate of schizophrenic babblings of a group chat of Intel dweebs. And we've been talking about Ukraine and the gaslighting, but Krystal and SIGAR,

they're like the liberal and the conservative, they go on Joe Rogan and they talk about this stuff. They went on and they're like, it's controversial, but we should think about what we're doing in Ukraine. And meanwhile, we're over here like month five, like this is fricking insane. And like, fuck. And then we wrote that post about like, Ukraine on the brink. So I think we're, I think we're like, what, three, four months ahead of the

power curve. So come spring. We're usually vindicated within 90 days. Yeah. So it's the funniest one that came out last week was, oh, Taliban ex fighters are now within the Chechens inside Eastern Ukraine. I'm pretty sure I called that last year. I need apology. And it's like, well, if you've ever been to Afghanistan, like pretty much all the Afghans in the army, like every fourth one is a Taliban insurgent. So it's like, motherfucker. post we wrote about, you know, hey, Ukraine's on the downfall. And we, you and I both have our people over there, both supporting, hell, we even supported some groups financially, even managed to send two tons of army supplies to the Ukrainians. But I was going to say something you said a while ago when we were going through the chats, you said a lot of the people or a lot of the Russians that are dying over there, they're not ethnic Russians. And so I started doing the math on that. And so it's like they lump them together. So right now everyone's

saying there's like 200,000 Russians dead. 40,000 of that is LPR and DNR. And for those that don't know, those are the two breakaway states in Ukraine. So automatically you're looking at about a quarter of the Russian losses being Ukrainian, like they're Ukrainian, but that's crazy. And so like that's 50,000 or 40,000, 50,000 Ukrainians that were fighting for Russia. And then like, and then on top of that, you have the Chechens. How many Chechens have died? Thousands. Let me take a look real quick. Yeah. And so it's like of that 200,000, like you were saying this like six months ago, you were like, how many of those are actually ethnic Russians? Cause I keep seeing videos of Uzbeks,

Kazakhs, Far East Siberian Russians. And it's just when people are crying, they're like, Oh, my son's dead. It's like some fucking trailer park in Eastern Siberia. And you're like, what the fuck? People say Russians have bad logistics. Not when it comes to finding fucking minority groups to fight their war.

They'll go to the far end of the empire to fucking bring somebody to the front line. So I was wondering about that. Like, do you have anything on that? Like, because I know you were like, deep into it, like you're like, these are like all Uzbeks and Siberians. Like what the fuck? Yeah, I took two weeks off of work. And the second half of December just went, you know, into an echo chamber and came out. It was like, yeah, the Russians know what they're done, but they're not stupid. Because if you look at the Russian way of thinking, they're like, there's ethnic Russians and Slavs. And that's why they look at the Ukrainians and Belarusians and Serbians. So they're like, yeah, we're one people. Their problem child are the Muslims. And they always have had a problem of getting those guys to play nice.

And in an event of say like late 1800s or World War I, they performed poorly. And then internally within Russia, which starts a fragment under the revolution, they went, all right, well, regardless of who wins, these groups are now going to have weapons or going to have tools, you're going to have experience. We got to kill every single male just in case we lose this war. So that's when the first draft came out. They were like, all the Chechens got to go. We can't do that again. They're like every single Muslim from Central Asia, they got to go. And that's when they came out. They were like, hey, we have like a backdoor draft. Kind of like we did in like 2005, six with Iraq, where they're like backdoor draft. If you were in the military within the last 10 years, you can come back. That's kind of with the IR and everything. But the Russians did that for former Soviets. They were like,

all right, if you were born before 1991 or your mother or it's kind of like the German situation for World War II where they were like, hey, if your mom's ethnic German, they can fight for us and you'll get the credentials and everything. But they just wanted to get rid of every single male in these populations because yeah, they're going to sustain some losses male wise, but they're not going to have a problem in this region. And number two, they're like, well, now we have free women to make actual Russians. So it's such a bizarre way of looking at things. Oh my God, we keep talking about it because we were just talking about right before you hit the record button, we were talking about like, what the fuck are we going to talk about it because we were just talking about right before you hit the record button we were talking about like what the fuck are we going to talk about? But like so many fucking things like the first one is the human trafficking.

The human trafficking is like, just so you people know, part of my job in Afghanistan was targeting financial systems of the Taliban. The Taliban love using human trafficking, children, women, specifically young boys for chai boys, don't look that up. But what I was gonna say is the level of human trafficking in this war, in this conflict, is something we haven't seen in over 120 years. And you were the one that pointed it out. And it's like, it's mind-blowing to think that there are three million, just women, not including kids that are going to be ethnic Russians by the time this is over. The Turks did it. I think. Oh, the great rape. Yeah.

Yeah. And I think we're just kind of starting to see like, I guess it kind of all boils down to like, this is war. This is what real war looks like. And like we've had 20 years of GWAT and people like to tell any veteran of that time era, like, oh, your war doesn't matter anymore. The next war is going to be bigger. It doesn't matter because Ukraine's different. It's like, it is. But at the same time, we were exposed to some of the worst fucking people on this planet, whether it was African it, whether it was African insurgents or Afghanistan or Iraq. But I mean, we're seeing what real, real classic war looks like. We're seeing burning of villages. We're seeing the rape of women, children. And we're sitting here and we're saying over here at Kroatoa, and we're like, look, this isn't good. These Russians have come to fucking play and they're doing it well. And one of the things that they do really

well is they send this wave of fucking humans at you. And there's 20 million Ukrainians in the EU and I think like 5 million of them have returned to Ukraine and they're partying. And we can talk about Kiev and Lviv being a party later on, but it's like, bro, this can't go on forever. You can only take, I mean, this is brutal. I mean, we were able to keep up 20 years of war because I mean, in honesty, it wasn't that severe. I mean, like what? The invasion, the thunder run of Baghdad, Fallujah two times. That was pretty much all the big fights. And then you had, you know, Rastrepo and the Kunar province. It's small engagements, but we can keep, I mean, you can pancreasian slap fight all day. What you can't do is keep up a war like this magnitude where Russia's going all in and pulling out all the stops. And so it's just, it's crazy to think about that. Like you brought up

that 3 million women right out of Ukraine gone and everyone just kind of blew over that. They're like, Oh, well, Ukraine's still going to win. It's like, what the fuck does winning look like? If three million, like 5 million of your people are gone, bro. That's like fucking five Nashville's. Imagine if Russia took five Nashville's out of our country we what the you just mentioned it like what does it mean to win so I mean like our group chat is very echo chamber based but we're talking about you know the wheat must flow and you're like cool the Russians posted a Don bass they took those regions on purpose it got rid of all the they took care of all of the the farmland and everything that little fertile crescent down there the, they took care of all of the, the farmland and everything, the little fertile crescent down there.

And then they took all the farmers and sent them back to Russia. And they're like, no, no one gets to eat. And so it's like, yeah, they're playing the long game here. Yeah. And so like, what, hold on. I'm so close to it right now. Hang on. Hang on.

Not a problem. Not a problem. No. Yeah. And the wheat must flow. The other, we joke about that, but have we ever written an article on that? Have we ever? No, no, no, no. Okay. It seems to not at once, but it was like a backdoor thing.

50% of Africa's wheat comes from Ukraine and Russia just took out half of that. So like 24%. Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. If Russia and Ukraine produce like what? A third of the world's grain. And then 50% of that. So like 25%. Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. If Russia and Ukraine produce like what, a third of the world's grain and then 50% of that goes to countries like Egypt and Yemen and Saudi Arabia and Iraq and Ethiopia and Somalia, places with very big US military bases. If those countries go tits up, like Americans aren't going to help them out because they already have their own stuff going on. And then boom, that just opens the door for the Chinese, the Russian Wagner group, where the French were kicked out of West Africa and all these countries are going to get very hungry.

They're going to have their own little insurrections going on. Who's going to take care of child soldiers? Probably mercenary. So yeah. Oh yeah. And I mean, it's, you said it. What does winning look like? What is, what does a Ukrainian W look like? And it's like, there isn't one anymore. Your women and children of that area are gone. 20% of your country is still held by Russia, all of it. And it's like, 80% of it is your entrance into the sea. The only thing that still has entrance into the sea is Odessa, and it's completely mined. There was a video of a dude swimming like 500 meters out to sea and he got blown up by a sea mine. It's like you have no access to the sea anymore. Half your grain is gone. And people are like still sitting there looking me dead in the eye and going, Aslav are you great? They're gonna fucking win. Like bro, if you come out of a fight limping with both your, I mean not even limping, both your legs are gone. You can't even access the sea. So both your legs are gone. You can't even access the sea. So both your legs are gone.

One arm is gone. The entire industrialized part of Eastern Ukraine gone. It's like, yeah, I won. You should see the other guy. It's like, all they did was throw ethnic minorities at you in Chechens. And it's like at most 120,000 poor Russians have died. There's still 2 million Russians that they can mobilize. And so it's like, we talked about that.

You can say like, oh, there's, you know, there's actual Russians inside Ukraine fighting or whatever. You're like, yeah, there's the VDV, the volunteers, like there's a professional forces. And then there's also guys who were protesting against the government and you're not allowed to do that. So they're like, Hey pal, guess what? You just got drafted. We're going to get rid of you because we know you're going to be a problem later. Yeah. And I mean, this is something like I've seen before. You dope them up. You dope them up and you send them at machine guns. And that's what

Ukrainians are saying. They're like, Oh, in Bucharest, they're like, they're just running at us with grenades and yelling. And then I'm having to mow them down with a machine gun. And it's like, yeah, the Taliban did that. They used to dope people up on heroin all the time. And it's like, you're doing the same thing. You just get rid of everybody you hate, fill them up with heroin and narcotics, send them at the Ukrainians. And they're like, oh, we're slaughtered in these Russians. And it's like, bro, three weeks ago, that guy was protesting for the war to end. Now he's looking at you on more morphine than it takes to kill Keith Richards. And it's like, I'm a hero, like, no you're not. This is crazy.

And then there's the amount of restaging and pre-invasion line-up LOAs inside Belarus, and I'm like, they're coming. Oh, dude. You and I talk about, yeah, if they wanted to win really quick, just go right for the jugular. Don't take out Kiev. No. Well, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I mean, if you're listening to this podcast, I'm going to teach you something. It's called a cog analysis. Okay? And if Russia did this, if Russia just sobered up for like five minutes and was like, hey, we actually have to plan this out right now. We cannot fuck this one up.

And they sat there and they said, what is the cog? What is the center of gravity? At first, everybody thought it was Keefe. Anybody would have thought that, right? Like you take out the fucking head, uh, the political arm, it's over. You take out Zelinsky, it's over. It's not Zelinsky anymore. It's Lviv.

And we've talked to, like you said, in our echo chamber, but that's where everything comes through. And it's a party's Lviv. And we've talked, like you said, in our echo chamber, but that's where everything comes through. And it's a party in Lviv. Everybody who's talked to us who's over there is like, you go down the streets in Lviv, people are drinking, they're having a good time. It's a Tuesday and these beautiful women are out there. Nonprofits are like, donate to me today. And they get $40 million. And it's crazy. It's good life over there. But if you attack Lviv and you cut those logistics off, all that Western military aid stops to front war. You're trapped. The only way out of Ukraine then is through Moldova and Romania. And those are mountainous. And everybody's also Russians there. Yeah, right.

And so like, you're, you're trapped, bro, there is going to be a humanitarian crisis at the Romanian border, the likes of which NATO has never seen. Cause for those that know Romania is a NATO ally, it would be insane. It would be, there are people who I'm sure a lot of nonprofits in Kiev and Lviv, but if you cut off the Western exit, the supplies gone, the idea that you can just come in and out of Ukraine gone. I mean, that would just spell the end. At first it was Russia's going to move to the Dnieper, they're going to take that, and then they're going to have Eastern Ukraine and Western Ukraine and it's going to provide a buffer zone.

I think that kind of part of me, I mean, maybe thinks that like, fuck that. You know, like, oh, you want a buffer zone? I tried to get half. Now I'm taking the whole goddamn thing. And so that center of gravity, what does everything in Ukraine rely on? If you attack this one thing, this one thing, and you take it out, what in Ukraine loses? It's the Viv. It's all the Bradleys and the 31 Abrams that were like, all right, we're going to build the Abrams from the ground up. It's almost like the Brits did with the Indians back when they had the colony where they were like, we're not giving you the new toys. You're going to get the shit that we don't, that we know that if you try to fight us, you're not going to win. So I think America kind of learned pretty quickly that after

we killed Bin Laden and the Blackhawk went down, the Pakistanis picked it up and gave it to the Chinese to review and then then they had their own Black Hawk. And then they started thinking Black Hawks the next decade. Yeah. So we're like, all right, even if we lose, say we lose like one Abrams to the Russians, even if we're building it from the ground up and it's really stripped down and restricted, that's still American technology that they're going to get a hold of. But 31 tanks isn't going to change the course of the war. If they were smart, the Ukrainians, they would put them around like, you know, Lvov or something. Yeah. Just protect that. I know. Yeah. I mean, and that's actually really smart. If they did that, that would probably wherever this next attack is coming from, that's where they need to put those

31 Abrams, but they're not going to be there until next year. And a lot of people who pointed that out, they won't be there until 2024. But there is a famous... Did you watch? Oh, I was going to say, did you see the... There was some post posted it, someone on Instagram that posted the ship, the American ship holding all the Bradleys and all the arty going over. And I was like, wow, I would just love to see the Lusitania sink again. I mean, you know, Thresher is a thing. I mean, you know, thresher is a thing. Yeah. And, but I mean, there's a famous battle called 73 Easting.

Basically a tank company of like, well, fucking 12 tanks went up against a battalion or a brigade of Iraqi T-60s and they smoked them. I mean, they took out the entire thing. And I mean, that Abrams and Bradleys together are a force to be reckoned with. The IR sensors on it are so goddamn sensitive. My dad was a Cav scout in the first Gulf War, and he followed up on that, actually, little 113s. And he's like, we were going through and there's like, you know, there's dead T-64s, dead Republican guard burned onto the tanks and everything. And

we're just driving and we're seeing in every road sign, there's a hole. There's a hole on like, take exit here. There's this, everything has a fucking 120 millimeter shell through it. And he, like the scouts get up to the main battle tanks and they're like, Hey, what the fuck was with the road signs? And they are, they literally sat there and they told the Cav scouts, they're like, they hold heat. We thought they were tanks at turret defilade. So you see like the little fucking sign that's been, I mean, to think about that, like the signs have been holding heat all day. And then in the battle of 73 Easting, it went into the night. And so the IR sensors are so sensitive, it could pick

up a road sign and like, they just fucking put fucking holes through it. And it's like, that's impressive. And so like 31 tanks can make a difference if you put it in Lviv, but I don't think they will. I don't think they will. And on top of that, the logistical capabilities, are we giving them all the tools to fix these things? Because now they have challengers, they have Bradleys, they have Panthers. It was like, they have all these cool things.

And I've talked to like, you know, people inside Ukraine explaining that Ukrainians are getting like an AK-74, but they're filling it with 556. And they're like, why won't my weapon work? God damn it, dude. Yes. I'm telling you right now. DynCore and BAE Solutions, the best thing they can do after this war is hire a Ukrainian mechanic because he's going to know how to fix Abrams, Challenger's T7. He's going to be like the jack of all trades. Like he'll have seen everything. And like this was something that when you look at Iran, that's how you and I met. When you look at Iran, one of the key problems that they have is that, is logistics. They

have three main battle rifles. They have the G3, they have an M4 variant, and then they have AK-47s and 74s, all of which require different parts, all of which require different ammo. And it's like, bro, you hit one ammo dump and they're gonna be sprawling to look through like six ammo dumps everywhere else to be finding parts. And that's what, like exactly like you said,

if you've got Abrams, Challengers, Leopards, T-72s, you're gonna be looking for parts everywhere. Well, on top of that, after the wall came down and they were like, all right, Eastern Europe's opening up their borders, they wanna be a part of NATO, like Romanians and Bulgarians and Poles, they reconfigured the AK to fire the 556.

So these guys are getting Polish AKs that fire 556, and they're getting 7.62 ammo. They're like, wow, this is too big for my magazine. Motherfuck, dude, do you know how fucking pissed i would be to be an american over there right now just like i'm sure i'm sure it is good but at some point when this next attack comes it's going to be stressful and there's going to be supply guys delivering shit and you're going to have there's going to be some american who's like knuckle fucking deep in a deuce and a half looking for fucking five he's like where the fuck is my shit?

He's gonna have to empty the truck to find ammo for his gun put it all back and he's just gonna be like what the fuck am I doing here? And yeah, and so I It's just there's and this is what we were talking about later because somebody called us out there like a dip by a thousand cuts Huh? It's like yeah death by a thousand cuts because you've got a thousand fucking things you got to fucking take care of. And you can't do it because you're completely reliant on one, everything getting to Lviv, going from Lviv to Kiev and then from Kiev to the front line. And I saw one guy say like, oh, well, if they do attack, the supply lines will be closer. Yeah, the Ukrainians will have shorter supply lines. It's like, yeah, I can see that being a big

bonus. And we're like, well, the Russians had that and their stuff got stuck at 40 miles. So, you know, like that was a, it was like, it was like going from Detroit to Toledo, Ohio. Like it was pretty close. I mean, at the end of the day, it's just a bunch of fucking Eastern Europeans smoking fucking cigarettes, drinking black coffee and driving trucks towards the main front. It's nothing like we have where it's like there's Chinooks, C-130s, C-17s, boats. I mean, it's Sea Kings, Fichte, Fichte, Fichte. Yeah, we have everything. Yeah, we have everything. God damn dude. One of

my buddies, I hope I might make him listen to this, but he worked special operations logistics and there's nothing fancy about that because this story, he basically airdropped Pop Tarts to Navy SEALs in Northern Syria. And he was so fucking pissed. He's like, I can't believe this was my day. I had to fucking cargo net put together pop tarts and fucking Girl Scout cookies they ordered in a bunch of their mail, airdrop them to a SEAL team in northern Syria. And then he gets a fucking email the minute that drops and they're like, Hey, fuck nuts. These are strawberry, not brown sugar. And he's like, motherfucker. Like, oh my god. Yeah, we had that where it was like, you know,

you're going to like a field opera or something with like recondos and they were like, they open up, they got their little cool, you know, halo dune buggy. You open up one Pelican case, rip it. You open up a second Pelican case, rip itPETS. You open up a third, a single Camelback. That's how I actually built Rapport with the CIA station in J-Bad because they're on a State Department order list and then the State Department doesn't have RIPPETS, but they have a bunch of fucking army guys who come over to the State Department and they're like, hey man, can you do us a favor? Can you put in a, an army order for some repets? I'm like, how much you want? And they're like, until you fucking leave, that's how much because

like, we can't order them. And so you have to order you're like a fucking I want the rep attributes so bad. Yeah, dude, I showed up one day in a fucking Tata with like 400 cans of repets. I'm like, I'm hoping this guy gets you through. They're like, no, this is like a month's worth. I'm like, what the fuck? Like, So funny. Oh God, you become like, you just become a caffeine addict. It's so fucking crazy. But one thing I do want to mention when it comes to like Ukraine is like, we talked about, you know, what's it mean to win? Because it's, we talked about this before. There's like,

there's no such thing as foreign policy anymore. It's foreign action. We're course correcting every three rounds, essentially. You're like, oh, that didn't work. That didn't work. And so when it comes down to it, you're like, well, say that America just stops giving them the intel because there's no way Ukrainians are doing that on their own. Say we just stop doing that. How quickly is Ukraine just going to roll over?

Because if we're giving them all the tools and we just stop for 48 hours, come on. What if we demo it? If you wanted to end the war in Ukraine in a week, the Republican Party would just tell the State Department to stop sending intel. I mean, that's literally what it... Our hand is so far up the field artillery in Ukraine's ass, it's not even funny. It's like, oh, the Ukrainians have high Mars and they're hitting all these targets. It's like num nuts. There is a CIA guy who's working 18 hours right now. He's an Intel nerd. Nobody gives a fuck about him. And he is just pinging fucking targets for the Ukrainians to hit. And Ukrainians to hit and he's like he's on Palantir. Yeah. Yeah. Right. He's making yeah. He's making sure he's yeah. He's yeah. God dude. Oh my god. Fucking Palantir. That sheet better be locked

motherfucker like his fucking his fucking GRG better be locked or else somebody else from like fucking DEA or another department is gonna come fuck with his sheet. Anyway, so like, go ahead, go ahead. Now I was gonna say like, going back to that, like what's winning, like, it would take a week, because it would take 48 hours for resupply to hit the Russian lines. And then they'd realize that's at hour 72, like, hey, our shits not blowing up. And then like two days after that, they'd be like, hey, these Ukrainians aren't hitting shit. And then that next day they'd be like, oh, it's done. It's done. And the CIA chief did meet with Zelensky and he did say, I think it was back in November or December, he was like, hey, go to the negotiating table. And when the CIA chief goes open in public, he was saying that four months ago, which was pretty much

the fall offensive. I'm pretty sure the CIA chief called Zelensky and said, hey, do something or get the fuck out. And he said, okay. And then they did the offensive. They took back Kerson. They got to the Dnieper just above, what is that? That little island, Crimea. But yeah. That little island. That little fortress. Yeah. Oh, that's another topic in itself. But yeah. So with that, I was like, because everyone's saying the drum is so beating for, oh, Ukraine needs to be a NATO. And you're like, do you understand that? Do you understand that? Think of the dumbest person you went to school with

and now consider that they're now making national level policy decisions and they can't tell the difference between a Ukrainian and generic Call of Duty villain. And we're like, we would let so many people in. And I'm pretty sure that's why the Americans only let in like a hundred thousand Ukrainians. They're like, we can't trust these people. Because like, if you want to go very simple, you're like, you're Slavs, you're Russians, we can't tell you apart.

And so with the language or anything like that. And so when it comes to like information sharing, do you understand that we thought Turkey was bad when it came to information sharing? The Ukrainians, like if we're giving them the intel essentially, like we will do this, you take it. We are not cross pollinating. Yeah. But it's like, all right.

So then for NATO, someone like the Americans or the Brits, because it's essentially two eyes at this point. They're like, there's, there's a reason they've been dragging their feet on it. Yeah. I'm, I don't think that'll ever happen. That is, and I think so when ski knows that, I mean, we talked about this, I think it was like six months ago, because they were making the joke that, hey, maybe NATO can join Ukraine because Ukraine was winning. The biggest thing is that Ukraine is the second most corrupt country in Europe behind Russia. So it's a big liability. The other thing is we just gave Ukraine $100 billion in land lease, which is they have to pay that back. We're not taking that equipment back. It is fucked up.

There's no returning it. On top of a $100 billion loan, which to put that in perspective, in the last 30 years, Ukraine hasn't even spent, I think, $30 billion on defense. We just gave them $100 billion loan. They're probably going to be paying off for 100 years. And then they have to rebuild 20% of their country and they have to rebuild the infrastructure in Kyiv. They are a liability. Only like two countries, I think it was like the Swiss and the Greece have volunteered

to help pay to fix Ukraine after the war has ended. Nobody else has stepped up to foot that bill. There is a trillion dollar debt basically attached to Ukraine. You cannot have that come into the EU. Automatically, that's my dog, automatically you're going to see, you're just going to see the euro drop. You're going to see the value in the EU drop. NATO will have a huge gaping hole in its line, which is Ukraine. And just like you said, as far as the intelligence and information, dude, that would not even be cool. That's very nutshell. like to, cause like, I mean, if you've ever gone to CENTCOM and you've been around the Turks, you know, you have like, you have one eye on your stuff, but then you have one eye on the Turk next to you. Who's like looking at your stuff because he wants secret information

about where he can genocide Kurds. And so it's, I can't imagine having Turkey and Ukraine be like two fucking cement weights on your feet trying to swim. Well then on top of that, if you look at it for like, it's an inside of the intelligence standpoint, but if they have to pay it back, is that, do we just buy the 52nd state behind Iraq? Like, is that our permanent Texas inside Europe? Dude, I wish that my taxes wouldn't be so fucking high. I mean, we said that too, and people shit on us then, but I mean, it's like, that's a terrible future to have. And I mean, like some people are saying like, well, the price of freedom is generational debt. And it's like, dude.

Tell that to the Germans who created the Nazis. Yeah, right. Dude, I mean, at what point? I mean, Zelinsky is talking to BlackRock. BlackRock is trading like, hold on a second. BlackRock uses AI called Aladdin to buy all of the property in the United States. They're the ones creating the idea of you will own nothing and feel good. They're those guys and they're who is going to help Zelinsky. And it's like, is it going to be the 52nd state? No, they're going to pay Americans and they're going to get none of the fucking benefits. And so, I mean, at what point do you just like, do you go Jesus Christ? Exactly. This goes right back into it. What does winning look like? It doesn't look like any of this. Not at all. I mean, it's like, say in a perfect world,

NATO does allow Ukraine to come in. You're like, what kid from Des Moines, Iowa wants to go get killed and Kyrgyzstan? I mean, the only, I'll be real honest, they'd be so fucking happy because every kid that doesn't have a deployment patch, a car, a combat action weapon. Yeah. A CIB, like, make no mistake, when you're in the military, you're hungry for a kill. And it's for all the wrong reasons. It's for some uniform candy. But yeah, but that's, I'm talking about like the backdoor draft stuff. They're like, hey, this is not going up. This is not going very well. So, hey, you from Montana.

Yeah. Guess where you're going, you know, Lithuania. Yeah, good luck. Like, no, yeah. I mean, yeah, let's map it out. What does a perfect Ukraine win look like? Well, first off, they take back Crimea. They take back the Donbass.

They take back Luhansk. They take it all back. Okay. What's that going to be? Probably another 500,000 dead. Ukraine has about 1.5 million, 1 million soldiers. I mean, all the active duty personnel are dead. We know that. On both sides. That first six months was rough. Yeah. Yeah. So you're talking about roughly 700 to a million Ukrainian soldiers, not including civilians, soldiers dead. Then you're talking about rebuilding all of the coastline of Ukraine. You're talking about rebuilding Crimea. I mean, that's like I said, that's a $2 trillion budget that they don't have and nobody's going to give it to them. So I mean, that way it's like, like in a perfect world, they win, right? They get everything back like cool. The Russians strategically struck all of their

factories. They took all the nuclear reactors on purpose. They took out all the fields for grains. They were like, the Russians fucked that country. It's more of a symbolic victory. That's like a $2 to $5 trillion rebuilding program. And then you got to get all of those Ukraine. And let's say every Ukrainian comes back to Ukraine, all 20 million of them that have dispersed into the world. It would probably be more like 32 million or something at that point. Jesus Christ, bro.

All the kids, because you and I both know the youth aren't the ones fighting. It's the ones who used to be Soviets. They're the ones who were going, yeah, I'm not going back to that. I don't want to have to wait in line for six weeks to get a meat. Yeah. I mean, that even goes deeper. I mean, I'm just giving the average Ukrainian dreamer what they want. It's like, have they even sat there and thought about that?

What the complete and total victory of Ukraine would entail? The worst thing I can say, and I know we jokingly say it, but it's like, bro, this ended in 2014. This ended, right? They took Crimea, they took Donbass, and then for eight years, Ukraine could prepare and they did. But in eight years, they only trained like 150,000 active duty guys. And all those were just like trained quote unquote, because there was the Marine, the

Black Sea Rotational Force that went to Mariupol, like Cossack, and all those guys like which Marines trained their own, the American pair showed up and trained the Ukrainian pair. They're like, you're like, well, like we trained them-one, but then, well, they had eight years to prepare. They did. They lost, what, 40% of their country in two weeks. And then now they're sitting here, it's almost a year later. The spring offensive was six months ago. Or not even was it? Yeah, the fall offensive was six months ago. And then like, dude, so it's not looking good. ago. And then like, dude, so, yeah, it's not looking good. I mean, Kuwait was the same way. So for those that don't know, in the early 90s, Desert Shield and Desert Storm, Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait and took out the number seven or

number eight biggest army in the world. Number three came down and crushed number eight in 24 hours. And then we went and crushed number three down to like 20th place, America. But, but I mean, yeah. Yeah. But like fifth special forces group had to train the Kuwaitis. So did the Marines in the Army. Like we all, basically every branch had to go to Kuwait and retrain the Army. And they thought it was a fucking joke. The Kuwaitis were laughing, having a good time, just like the Ukrainians did in 2015 and 16. And some of the guys were sitting there.

It's like, why the fuck are you laughing? You lost your country in 24 hours. And that's what they did. They fucking sat there and, I mean, that's what's going on right now. Keev and Lviv are one big party. From who I've talked to, they're like, it's Sodom and Gomorrah. The soldiers that are just coked out of their head, just chilling. Having a great time.

That whole issue, I wouldn't say the issue, but like those two cities are kind of like the New York and DC of American equivalent. That's their big ones. And if like we're looking at hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians dead by here, say theoretically, the Russians attack again. And I've heard February 20th instead of February 24th. So it's like, yeah, you're going to hit a guy. You're like, I'm three, I'm going to hit you and you punch him on one. Yeah. I mean, it really, the thing that gets me on top of this isn't just

like the one topic we keep coming back to is what does winning look like for Ukraine? But the other thing is, is nobody's talking about this stuff. Nobody's questioning this stuff. Nobody's bringing this up in the mainstream media. 24 hours ago, it was brought up on Joe Rogan. That's incredible. But that's the thing is the silence is deafening because it's like, why does Ukraine need a hundred new tanks when they got 500 tanks from the Russians at a minimum 500. Some people estimate up to 700. Why do they need a hundred more tanks? The Defense Department sweating. It's like, well, oh yeah, they need it because they're running out of tanks. It's

like, why do they need more Javelin rockets? Are they running out of Javelin rockets? Why do they need a hundred billion dollars? And it's like, well, it's a modern war, but it's like, nobody's discussing Ukrainian losses. Nobody's showing me like, hey, up here we got a weakness for Ukraine. It's a problem. And we're gonna, we're gonna solve it. Nobody's come out and said that.

They're all just like, it's going well. Ukraine's winning. Look at all these kill TV photos. It's like, I've watched enough kill porn. Tell me what's going on. It's like, well, it's going great. It's like, well, is it? Well, what's going wrong? Nothing. It's like, I like to think about, I don't know if I mentioned this like in our little echo chamber or anything,

but say, regardless who wins or loses in Ukraine, what's the US going to do? Are we going to flex our muscles inside Africa and just annihilate a country because to flex on the Chinese? Like, Yeah, right? annihilate a country because the flex on the Chinese like, yeah, go back to the Middle East again. I mean, because I mean, Africa would be ripe for that because the US has been pivoting away from the Middle East for some time now. And then redistributing all their assets to like Africa.

So you're like, cool. So are we just going to like set up shop in Ethiopia to help and then Chinese out? Dude, if I had to guess what's going to happen, no matter if or when whatever happens with Ukraine ends, which I don't think it will, I think it's going to be a stalemate for the next 10 years and then Russia is going to come back for round three. Vladimir Putin's going to be sponsored by Hoveround. Yeah, he ain't dying. He's a fucking multi-trillionaire. People are like, he's got testicular cancer. Like bro, he has a new nutsack for all you know.

Fucking 3 million women coming over to Russia. You don't think he found that extra kidney? Jesus Christ. But I was going to say, I think the United States is going to kind of step back because the EU is coming. Germany just realized it has to listen to the US because it doesn't have an army and then it found out its army sucks. So the EU is going to become number one. We're going to sell a shit ton of weapons to them.

And this is like 10, 20 years because they got to build their armies. We are going to sell so much. The military industrial complex is crying. They're so happy right now because basically every Russian arms is basically null and void compared to 30 year old technology we created. So they're set. They don't need another global war on terror. They got to equip all of NATO now.

So they've come buckets. What did you say? You used the analogy you're're like, the world's going to be the NFL here soon. We're all going to have the same toys, the same helmets, the same pads. It's just going to be a different culture. That was Stephen. Stephen said that. He's like, yeah, because everybody copies American special operations, but whatever. But yeah. Talking about Stephen real quick for the listeners out there. We had multiple posts in a podcast about this time last year about the role of aviation

inside the next war. And we're like, look, the Russians didn't gain air support. They didn't gain air superiority. No one's flying inside Ukraine, Ukrainians or Russians. No one's flying. It's like IEDs made that entire thing and I forgot who it was. It was one of the bigger pages. We're like, look at this dipshit. We're like, all right, pal. I know who it was. I know who it was. And I'm not going to say the name because I don't want

them to have the publicity. But Stephen called that. And yeah, dude, that's a whole nother- The ultimate Hail Mary. That's- Yeah. Yeah. Explain that to people. That's very important that they hear that. Yeah. So the situation where you could Eastern Church, Ethan Orthodox Church, they're all in the East, right? The Russians is based out of Pound, St. Sanobro, their spiritual home. I'm not going to go into the schism, but we had our friend in the group chat was talking about how it's not so much an ideological war, it's a holy war. And it's like the Orthodox Christian equivalents of a jihad,

essentially, or crusade to reclaim the spirit of Eastern Christianity. And because he was going, look, Putin shows up to the Kremlin and he has a priest blessed every single day. And then the Russians on the front lines, like Americans have chaplains, but they were like, no, go to the local church and get the priest. He's going into battle with us to bless us. It's very medieval. And so with something like, and you could probably elaborate further on the Ukraine side, but he was going, oh, this is very much a holy war. And that the fact that Jim Bro, Eastern Europe, Eastern church guys on the internet are going, yeah, Russia's justified, Russia's right there, the good guys, they're actually fighting for Christianity. And if you're a Christian, you should actually support the Russians because we're under the same church,

same faith. And our friend went, Ukraine's going to ban religion. They're like, they're just going to get rid of that. And we were like, bullshit. And then six weeks later, Zelensky is like, we will no longer identify as Orthodox Christians. And it was the ultimate out of left field Hail Mary assassin I've ever seen. He was so deep into Freud. It was scary. The book is called Man and His Symbols by Carl Jung. And yeah, he was reading that. And he was like, bro, the Russians have Orthodox Christianity and the Ukrainians have Western nihilism. And then he was like the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, which had separated because Zelinsky said they are two different things.

And it's like, well, no, they're still the same. Yeah, Stephen said it, he's like, those fucking priests, those Orthodox priests, they're in on this. And he's like, I bet you fucking money that they're gonna have to get rid of them. And then like, what two weeks later, so it was so funny, like alpha group, just a kissy face. We're like, thanks. Yeah. I was like, God damn it, bro. There was like fucking Orthodox ministers bent over fucking FSB or Alpha group police cars. And it was like, oh, they were seen collecting intel. And it was like, yeah. And basically what Stephen said was, look, this is a war of ideology. It's Western nihilism in Putin's eyes, which I mean, that's the craziest thing is like, how do you, what the fuck is Putin thinking? And it's like, well, one, he wants to rebuild. We've read his book. So yeah.

We know. We know. I mean, Jesus Christ, man. I was elaborating further on the whole topic where you were talking earlier, like, oh, these companies trying to get rid of, you will have nothing and you'll like it. And that's the collective thought of if you go from, you know, Midwest America, you go to Japan, you go to France, it's all Coca-Cola, it's all English. Everyone's everything's just unison. There's no identity anymore, essentially, like in an ideological way. And if the Russians punch so hard at globalism, regardless of what, if they win or lose, like they broke the mold. And so all these other people are gonna go,

oh, I don't have to play nice. I don't have to play like this. I can't embrace like religion and these things. I mean, who, what comedian was it? I mean, I always go, do you guys remember there was a fucking jihad 20 years ago, like an entire religion attacked the other one? Yeah.

Everyone forgets that. Who's that big fat comedian? Joe Rogan No, he hangs out with Joe Rogan. He does the Sarah McCain, I only fucked daddy. I only fucked daddy. He said it. He said the only way to be different nowadays is to be a Republican. He's like, if you're a 15 to 18 year old kid, and you're coming out with blue hair, and you're like, Mom, I don't know who I am. It's like, good. Every teenager fucking does that. And it's like, if you want to really piss off your parents, like I'm going to church and they're like oh cowboy still the fuck down there John Wayne and yeah but it's it seriously is like that and Putin that's how Putin thinks he wants to rebuild the Russian Empire he's a Soviet agent he was KGB for God's sakes some people like to say he sucks. But Tim... He's the one who put his friends in government when the wall came down.

Who actually, yeah, who's the fucking president now, bitch? His name was... It's Tim Dillon. Oh, Tim Dillon, yeah. Yeah. Like, I mean, you're gonna rebuild the empire, you're gonna rebuild Russia's greatness. You cannot do it without Christianity and the symbolism. That's exactly what Stephen was saying with Carl Jung. It's like, how the fuck you're going to rebuild Ukraine without symbolism, without the Trident, without, you know, we're the Kievan Rus, like all that stuff. And it's like they're having to abandon that.

They're having to abandon that to appease the West. And it's like, well, that's a Nazi symbol. It's like, is it really? Or is it a Nordic compass that these Viking motherfuckers inherited? And so it's like, we as the West are shitting on these Ukrainians and they cannot act out who they actually are. And it's like, you better put cat ears on that fucking helmet. I mean, we talked about this before that, like when the Russians invaded, they were waving Soviet

flags and they still have the Soviet flag waving everywhere. And I was like, iconography is huge. And so I might've talked about it on the podcast, but we definitely do it in the echo chamber where it's like, I explained it as picture America lost in 1991, California, Texas, and New York ran away. And there was a Midwest grassroots movement to go, oh, we're making America great again. And we're going after Texas because they can say that they're different, but they're ours. And that's the same thing with the, so if this new party starts waving the old American flag

and they're like, we used to be really good. I don't know what we're doing now. So it's like, there's a lot of guys that would jump on top of that. And that's why I like the Russian youth are going like, yeah, I like that. And the older people are going, no. Like, no, we remember that. But you know remember that. But I read some of that Russia has

both the oldest and the youngest population in Europe because they have a very heavy top heavy. But then under Putin, he was like, I'll give you $5,000 every time you have sex. So the kids were like, boom, I'm going to town. Yeah, there you go. But that's what every military does, right? We still have Gatsen flags in infantry bays. We still have, I mean, shit, 3% of flags. There's old Betsy Ross flags coming, fuck around and find out flags. Shit, I got a Pathfinder flag right behind me. And that those those units are dead. I got a torch and I'm fucking sitting here like getting over my dead body. Will you take this motherfucker?

Units gone like that. Yeah, tread on them. Oh, yeah, they tread all over my nutsack fucking. So it doesn't surprise me that a bunch of Russians have Soviet flags. And it's like it this war is so complex. And it's, I think I said it in the group chat. I said, they're so evil, it's respectful. You know, there's human trafficking, there's Soviet Union flags, there's torturing. This war goes so much deeper than Slavic.

This ethnic cleansing on their own side. Yeah, bro, what the fuck? And like people have the audacity to sit there with us and they're saying like, if you don't support Ukraine, it's like, look, I just don't that I don't support Ukraine or do. It's just that appreciate this for what it is. This is a lot here. And if you're just sitting there and you're like, well, I bought a couple patches and I supported some Ukrainians.

It's like, okay, that's good. But there's so much more than, oh, tanks are obsolete. No, no, no, no. There's ethnic cleansing, there's symbolism, there's religion, there's economics. I mean, information and intelligence is a huge thing. And diplomacy. Shit, NATO just gained two new members. It's the first time in fucking like 15 years. And once again, people are fucking sitting on the page and going oh you're a Russian son it's like no motherfucker look there is a smorgasbord of shit to eat in this conflict and all anybody has pulled from it is oh slav of Ukraine and tanks are obsolete javelin saints and shit it's's like fuck, fuck off. I mean, I live in our nation's capital,

the heartbeat of the world. And by June, I guess Ukraine didn't have it too, they were about eight colors too short on their flag for that month. And so after that, all the Ukrainian flags came down. Motherfucker. Dude, it's, yeah. I mean, it's really, in a sense, it's sad that your average person just can't look at this and go, Jesus Christ, this is a very wide, I mean, dude, nonprofits, nonprofits after this, my mind has been blown. So many people have reached out to the page and I mean, we've seen it too. There are a lot of good nonprofits, but there are so many fucking bad nonprofits out there that just are pocketed fucking money. And it's like, I mean, do your own research.

Look into your, look into them and see, because people have reached out to the page and shown us like just fraud, waste and abuse at a whole another level. So it's like nothing is untouched in this conflict. It's not a military doctrine rewriting. Nobody at Leavenworth and the command general staff college is like, look, look at these battle plans. They're so mind blowing. It's like, no, dude, neither side knows how to do combined arms maneuver warfare. That's it. It's like pre-K fights. It's not anything to look

at. But there's many, many other things you can look at and take from this conflict. What does winning look like? Religion, economics, and it's complex. And I think that if you are a student of foreign policy, war, or politics, or religion, or fucking psychology, war or politics or religion or fucking psychology, looking into this war from different angles and different perspectives is helpful. Because we've been able as a group chat to look at this from like 20 different angles. And I swear to God, probably next week, Stephen's going to be like, I've read space command doctrine, the Russians are going lose. And it's like, well, what the fuck did you learn? Like, God damn, I mean, that motherfucker literally like three months ago was like, the poles are shifting. That's why they need air. He called me one night. I don't know if I told you like, he's like, I've been doing research in a

polar ice caps and that Moscow is going to be a frozen tundra. And that's why they're moving into Kiev. And that's why they need it. Cause that's going to be the new capital. Because if you go back to the traditional way that Kiev was the spiritual soul of the Slavic people and blah, blah, blah. And I was like, okay. It's funny. All right, man. That is so funny. It's so great. Don't just sit there and compare tank sizes, fucking get out the go read a book, come back to your friends with a dry erase marker and be like, pop that bad boy off and go, I'm going to show you how religion plays into this. You're like, you like fucking chug a half a Red Bull, huff the marker and go, fuck yeah, let's get to

go. And I'm here for that. That's what I'm here for. I'm not here for the Slava Ukraine. I'm not here for your fucking patches. I'm here for that one motherfucker in the back row huffing paint like, hey, you want to know why DMT is crucial to military strategy? Come up here, Joe Rogan. Come up here, you motherfucker. I want to hear it. You just mentioned the going back a little bit talking about like the Germans going like oh we need a military we need to start pulling our weight. Did you see all the reports of these Ukrainian refugees showing up in Germany just refusing to work and they were like I'm a refugee they were like I'm a refugee take pity on me they're like cool if you don't have any money get out of my store they're like you can't steal stuff

like, cool, if you don't have any money, get out of my store. They're like, you can't steal stuff. Or this is just a lot of videos of like military age men in like Canada, bullying people for not wearing blue and yellow. They're like, aren't you a 22 years old? Go fight for your country. What are you doing here? Yeah. Why are you sleeping with my wife? Dude, it's, I mean, that's like that. The governments are going like, oh shit, we got to speed this up because we have 20 million people just grifting. Well, I mean, that's it's two things on that one. Any any populace who comes from a war torn country is going to do that.

Poland is the only Poland didn't do it to the Ukrainians, but they've done it to the Syrians. They've done it to the Iraqis. They do not take anybody in because they know from watching Germany and France, what happens when you let immigrants into your country who are from a war-torn area. You're going to have some bullshit get through. People are going to get tired of them. They're going to overstay their welcome. They did it with the Ukrainians, their Slavs, their brothers, but it's going to get tired of them, they're going to overstay their welcome. They did it with the Ukrainians, their Slobs, their brothers, but it's going to happen. And so it's like, yeah. But the second thing about that is that because you said this was like four months ago, right before the fall offensive, everybody in the EU was like, hey, Zelensky, let's go to the negotiation table

with Putin. And he was like, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not going to the negotiation table. I'm not going to the, and then like the CIA chief went there three months ago and said, Hey, we're not going to help you much longer, get your shit together. But now, because we were looking through the, for those that don't know, there was like $2.2 billion approved. There are two divisions worth, 250 Javelins, which is two army infantry divisions worth of Javelins being sent to Ukraine. 2000 rockets being sent for Javelins over there. Claymores, mines, construction equipment, and tanks. The verbiage changed from, hey, we need to go to the negotiation table to, holy shit, you're going to need a lot of landmines, anti-tank rockets, and claymores.

So going back to the, taking that and going back to like why Ukraine wouldn't be a NATO. They're like, cool. So you have all these guys in and now they have all these cool toys. And I'm just waiting for an American manufactured Apache to get shot down by an American manufactured Javelin in Yemen. Oh, dude. Last time I was on here, we talked about Wagner. We talked about like, you need to go on and you need to read the Wikipedia page about Wagner because they're literally all over Africa and Southeast Asia doing crazy shit. You and Steven brought that up because you said Yemen and I don't think a lot of people heard that. You need to look

into fucking Yemen. There are- It's a proxy war between the- Number one, it's a religious war between the Sunnis and the Shias, the Iranians and the Saudis. And then it's also a proxy war from the US to keep the Chinese out, to keep the Iranians from expanding. And it's just a very isolated conflict where the Iranians are winning because they're using our toys because we gave them to Libyans back in the 80s. Stephen said, go look at that. And I pulled it up and there are so many helicopters that have been shot down in Yemen. It's horrifying.

Anybody who has served in a conflict zone knows that if a fucking helicopter goes down, it's called a fallen angel. Literally every ISR, all the drones, everything in the air literally does a 90 degree fucking 180, whatever it takes, and they all just go to that helicopter. There's like a helicopter getting shot down like every other month in Yemen, and they aren't just regular helicopters. These are helicopters the United States has given the Saudi kingdom. These are not fuck off helicopters like we're giving Ukraine, like a bare nuts fucking Abrams. They're real fucking helicopters getting shot down like Matt said.

And Iran is winning. And it's like, what the fuck? And like you said, funny on that is it's like, well, the Iranians are winning, but they're the UAE is the one spearheading the charge. They'll fight the Houthis, but they also support the Eastern Libyans who are backed by the Russians. All right. It's that daisy chain of hate. Yeah, it's Siamese 40 Connect 4. Dude, it's sucking. And the worst part is that at the end of the day, on the American side, it's like a 50-year-old white man and a general who went to West Point who doesn't understand. Lost two wars by the way.

Yeah, who lost two wars and doesn't know what the fuck is going on in CENTCOM. And like he's making decisions and having to deal with like Chinese and Russian fucking cyber attacks. He doesn't know how the internet works. He beats up his cyber guy when his internet is down on his laptop and he can't jack off in his trailer. And he's getting cyber attacked. He's getting meaned. They're speaking four different languages, the Russians, the UAE, and it's like go check out Yemen. It's fucking crazy.

Yeah, it's so funny. On top of the like, oh, this old guy doesn't understand how computers work. You see that the Japanese minister of security doesn't have a computer. He's like, I don't know how to use it. That's fucking, dude, that's, hey, if he's in charge of security, that's great. That's fucking phenomenal. They were like, who's better than someone who has no idea how it works?

Yeah, what are you gonna do, hack his typewriter? You can't do shit. Like fucking. Exactly, exactly. He's hand jamming notes over here. Oh, it's so funny. And I don't know, maybe you can educate me, but the fucking memes on the balloon, I don't know if they're making fun of the Air Force for not being able to take down the Chinese

spy balloon or not. I'm just like, this is the biggest fucking L. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? My favorite, I think Nada JTAG posted it. It was like Nada Barun. not a JTAG posted it. And it was like, not a baroon. Not a spy baroon. I saw that. Yeah, but everyone was, because, you know, armchair analysts come out, they're like, we should shoot it down. They're like, do you understand it's going to cover seven miles of debris? And it's going to be a lot harder to pick that up in the middle of Montana. There's going to be fucking NSA dudes out in some fucking cow pasture in Montana. Like, I found a panel.

I want to believe. But then they're like, yeah, let's shoot it over or shoot it down over like South Carolina. And then it goes into the water and immediately sinks. They're like, fuck. They're like, well, we popped a balloon and it sank. I'm like, fuck. So I don't know. I saw a few things that it's like, oh, it's a sign up The US military put it there because there's a looming worth of Chinese and they're trying to get the public. Like you're thinking Americans are stupid. We did not think of that. It's like the Chinese. That's Chinese. That's not us. Dude, they probably went that. It's just fucking for shits and giggles. Throw it in. Let's see what happens. The Russians used to do that with the bear. They would just fly two Russian bombers down the coast from Alaska all the way to San Diego and go home. And they were like, how many Americans respond? And it was almost never. Never. Yeah. Fucking, I got to hate Air Force Intel. God, I hate it. Like you fucking- Really good at one thing. And if you ask them anything outside of that one very specific channel of like, yeah, I work for Macyc. And yeah, I know how to tell you the propulsion on this one missile.

You're like, they don't care about that. What does that have to got to do? They're really good at the weather. They're really fucking good at the weather. Me too. You know who else is good? Everyone else. You know who else is good? Everyone else. I didn't give a fuck about the weather when I was briefing it. So they brought the special weather officer, the SWO in. And so I was just like, this is cool. I did a bad job on purpose briefing the weather. So the weather guy would actually come do his fucking job. I used to do that. I would call the meet talk office on base and I was like, Hey, can you send me like a weather slide for the next 72 hours? I have a brief. And it was like, cool.

So I go back to the pilots. I'm like, you'll know it's hot. If you walk outside, they got on the one guy, they fired his ass. They told him to go back to Kabul. He no shit. They're like, Hey, is it, what's, what's ceiling going to be today? And like something about like wind direction. That motherfucker literally walks out of the briefing room stands outside for like five seconds. It goes, I think Southwest

and they're like, motherfucker, the sun's right in front of you. That's that's what I think Southwest. That's the East. And he's just like, ah, fuck. I remember doing that. Like I was on, I was on a mission one time and they were like, can you get the slapped out? And I was like, sure. So I just went to Google and typed in slap and they were like, are you kidding me? Oh my God. Hold on.

Let me, let me pull this together real quick. I'm like, yeah, I got it. Just typed in slap and this captain was like, did you genuinely think that was going to work? No, this is like, no, I'm trying my best here, Sarge. Like, I just watched 14 straight episodes of the Sopranos. I don't know what's going on. Yeah. I'm real honest with you, sir. I've been in the tea skiff, getting sweaty, watching cops like, I've been in the tea skiff getting sweaty watching cops. Like, fuck it. Oh, let me tell you this funny story. So I remember one time there was like a mission

and I was like, it was at like two in the morning and I was going to be working night shift. So my buddy's like, here, use my French press, make a cup of coffee. And so I thought it'd be nice after the mission. I was like, I'm going to clean this thing out, do it real nice. I was on the ship, fill the full water, dumped it out in the fucking f*****g city ocean. I was looking at just this handle. I was like, so I went back to his rack and I sat there for a little bit and he was like, what are you doing here? And I was like, it's gone. He was like, I just got this. It was $70. You're a fucking idiot, bro. It was the funniest thing. Oh, man. Chad, when we were in Bagram, he found out who the deputy commander, because he would wake up at like 1 a.m. and he would cover the briefing slides together and then 9 a.m. he'd go brief the 101st Division Commander on like air capabilities, like what was down, what was up and shit.

And so Chad figured out what his favorite coffee was. I'm a fucking lieutenant. My life doesn't matter to a colonel who's running all the air for Afghanistan, all the helicopters. And he would have coffee with us every morning. And I'll never forget this because he found out what his favorite coffee was. We grounded it, hand pressed it, everything, made him a cup of coffee. He came in and he had his eggs and he was eating with us. And he's like, oh man, LT, that is the best cup of coffee. And he like puts it down. He like looks at it, takes a couple more sips, finishes it off, smacks his PowerPoint slides real quick. He goes, all right, I'm going to go tear the battle captain a new one. Joe, get the fuck over

here. And I'm like, what the fuck? He just looked at that cup of coffee, because he was going to go get fucking torn up by the division commander. And he's just like, ah. And then he took four more big gulps. He's like, all right, I'm gonna go tear the good, the fucking battle captain's asshole apart. It's like, he said that it's like you're sitting down outside after the bar, you're waiting for the Uber and you're like, you ever just enjoy a nice breeze? I remember one time I was like, I was playing a lot of medieval total war two a few years ago and like, in the military was like deployed. And I was like, oh, I forgot how to do the jihad mechanics.

So I just completely without thinking went to the computer, just typed in how to start a jihad. And I was like, wait, shit. Oh, dude. I remember running over to like the Navy technical guys. I'm like, you guys seeing crazy? Yeah, you fucking look at the signal guys, hey, anything weird come over there? It's wild, right?

Easily one of the full retard moment, my brain just shut off and I was like, wait. Oh God. Oh God, dude. Oh, you good? Well, this has been a really fun, it's been a really fun hour. Yeah, I really appreciate you coming back on. I'm sure this is gonna get a lot of hate. And I think we're gonna have to write a follow-up

Instagram post about, you know, Ukraine and why they shouldn't be a native, but. Yeah, we'll make, tell you what, we'll do what the people want. We'll say, Slava, Ukraine, we'll sell them some patches and then we'll go on Good Morning America and we'll sell teddy bears Never watch that show American dad. Yeah when Stan was making the holiday teddy bears

We show up with Ukrainian bears and Russia's already launched another assault. We're like two weeks late. Like, god damn it! These are for the kids. The Rets are in the dumpster truck that I just brought from Poland. Oh, I'm also going to buy the block. But anyways, I'm going to let you get out here. Alright, man. Alright, take it easy. I'm going to be back. Thanks for watching!