Knowledge Fight - #12: Jon Rappoport
Episode Date: February 15, 2017On today's show, Dan tells Jordan all about a SPECIAL REPORT from sometimes guest host of the Alex Jones Show, Jon Rappoport, about "mind control on college campuses." Topics covered include: How man...y years of research does it take to take a quote or statistic out of context? How hard is it to hang a picture? Is Jon Rappoport Batman? Is "safe space culture" a real thing?
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
I love you.
Hey, everybody. Hello. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
I'm Jordan.
This is a podcast where I listen to too much info wars and Alex Jones in particular.
And I have no idea what the hell he's talking about.
And I have wrangled, much like a wrestler out there on the planes.
I got my lasso out and I roped myself some clips.
Oh boy.
From Alex's show and I'm going to play them for you, Jordan.
That's brutal.
And then we'll discuss the implications and the insanity to be found therein.
I'd like to thank everybody who has followed us on Twitter.
I'd like to thank all of the people who are getting on board.
Our numbers are through the roof.
Really?
Statistically speaking, yes.
You lost them all whenever you did that lasso bit right there.
I don't.
They all left.
You know, unlike the Democrats, I'm like, we might lose a few elites,
but we pick up some middle America folks.
I'm talking their language with the.
Okay.
Is that?
Wow.
You're pandering to the people from Kansas now.
Hey, boy.
And I'll tell you what.
Let's start talking like some of the weird slack,
jodd hillbillies I used to do karaoke with.
That would be fun if all of a sudden for one episode,
we just had an affectation the whole time.
Hillbilly Dan never spoke of it.
Not once just put out the episode in character.
The next episode again, never mentioned it.
Donate to our Patreon at patreon.com slash reason point.
And I'll do an entire hillbilly episode.
We actually like those old news radio episodes where suddenly
they were on the Titanic for no reason.
That'd be our season finale.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That sounds good.
Hillbilly season finale to knowledge fight.
Yep.
Cause we're not sure we're getting picked up for another season.
Well, we might die.
Neither is America.
America is not sure yet whether or not we're going to do season two.
That's a fair point.
The studios are still talking.
It's going to be a fight.
But much like a special hillbilly episode today is a special episode
where actually this is going to be the,
I guess the David Knight episode that we did had no Alex in it.
No, no, tragically.
There was a little Alex.
Oh no, you're agreeing with me.
I'm agreeing with you.
This episode will also tragically have no Alex in it.
Well, let's hope it won't.
Let's wait until we finish recording it before we denote it as a tragedy.
No matter how good this goes, you can always use some Alex.
All right. That's a good point.
This is a situation where Alex every day, I've mentioned this before,
every day leaves during the fourth hour of his show.
His show is four hours long and he lets someone else host the fourth hour.
And this week or this last week on Thursday,
he had a gentleman by the name of John Rappaport,
who was hosting the fourth hour.
He's a guy who runs a blog called no more fake news.
It looks like an angel cities page.
Oh, really? Way back from, oh man.
It looks like something that someone would link to from their MySpace.
Like a very old, clunky, bad looking site.
Excellent.
He links to a number of things.
Well, the better the sites look, the more you know they're fake news.
This is underground reality coming directly to you through AOL.com CDs.
Yeah, absolutely.
I'm sure that's how he gets into that.
He is a guy who doesn't believe HIV causes AIDS.
He's a guy who has some literal belief in the matrix.
These sorts of things are, you can pay 125 dollars
and he will send you a huge 10 hour presentation on any of these subjects.
That's for an hourly rate.
That's not good.
That's a bad deal.
$1.25 an hour.
Yeah, that's a bad.
He is working sweatshop labor to bring you these conspiracy theories.
And that's not even counting the hundreds of pages of documents.
Self-written, I'm sure, that he is sending along.
But no, he outsourced them to the unabomber.
That's the kind of thing that that's a sort of broad sketch of the man
where you can find on his website is HIV, AIDS, denial, and talk.
That's such a weird one.
Why would you do that?
Why?
Because he's found sources that prove things.
Yeah, but I mean, what good is that?
Never mind.
Sure.
That's lest we go down this path.
Yeah, yeah.
We've already gone too far down to his Angel Fire website.
This gentleman has a ridiculous gray beard and broadcasts into Alex's show.
I'm going to post a picture of what it looks like when he's broadcasting
over on our new Tumblr.
Oh, we have a new Tumblr page.
Which you can find at knowledgefight.tumblr.com.
I'll post a picture of John Rappaport broadcasting.
And if you look to the bottom left-hand side of the screen, there's a picture,
a framed picture that he has not put up on the wall.
And it's been sitting there for about nine months.
Wait, what?
If you watch him.
If you watch him regularly, you see that that picture has sat in the same place.
Yep.
The entire time.
The entire time.
It's leading against the wall.
Yep.
He just does never put it up.
He just cannot put it up.
It's amazing.
All right.
No more fake news.
No more putting off putting up this picture.
How about that?
How about that Rappaport?
So anyway, John Rappaport gets in there and he has got a bombshell story.
Excellent.
That is up on infowars.com.
This is where it's been published also at nomorefakenews.com.
Of course.
It is a story.
That's cross-pollination.
Absolutely.
He's like a little busy bee.
Yeah.
And he has this bombshell story that is about universities
and what's really going on on college campuses.
Thank God somebody finally found out.
I thought it was just sex.
You know what?
That would have been a better report.
These kids, be fucking.
And you know what?
That would have worked perfectly.
Infowars, reader, readers, and listeners would have hated that.
Who'd have scared the shit out of these old people.
Yeah, they don't like people having sex.
Did you know that they found a new way to have sex?
No way.
In the butthole.
In the butthole?
In your anus.
But that's exit only.
That's at least what my grandma told me when I was seven.
Now I'm having fantasies of that being John Rep reports next report.
So you might be asking yourself, why the fuck are we covering this?
We're in Alex Jones centric podcast.
I was absolutely about to ask that.
And we're going to get to why like this is such an offensive,
horrible thing that is being broadcast on the air.
As we go through, you'll start to see the picture of why this is terrible.
I feel like I'm going to figure it out real quick.
But also, I think it's time now that we've established our format and,
you know, we're pretty comfortable that it might be time to start dipping our
toe into who are the, who are these cadre of weirdos that Alex always has on his show.
Because we're going to, we're working on exposing the bullshit of Alex.
Right.
But we also should be like, also don't trust this asshole.
You got to, you got to work from the ground up too.
You know, you can't just focus on the, the, the Don.
Let's call him the Don.
He is the Don of info.
He's the Don King.
We got to go after his underbosses.
Yeah.
So this is one of his choppos.
John Rappaport.
I'll let him start this off with his breaking bombshell report visa V college campuses.
I'm vamping because my clip is loading.
Oh, professional podcaster.
We are.
I'm a professional.
Oh, no, that's fine.
It'll load up dead air, dead air, dead air.
That would be a great, that would be the best, uh, Jeopardy theme song to do while
they're waiting for the final Jeopardy thing.
Wait, dead air.
Oh, dead air, dead air.
I take this as a personal attack, but now my clip is ready.
So here's John Rappaport.
Take it away, baby.
John Rappaport sitting in here for Alex in the fourth hour.
I'm going to have a big investigative report here.
And I'm probably going to take up most of the hour with it.
Denture teeth.
Oh, yeah.
The article, which I wrote recently at No More Fake News, the number one
mind control program at US colleges.
So we start here.
Everybody knows about this insane triggering safe spaces, microaggressions,
fad trend movement that has broken out at colleges.
Oh, you said something.
It triggered me.
I saw Hollywood, a Halloween costume, and I freaked out and now I have to go to a room.
Let's be clear, when he's talking about the Halloween costumes,
he's talking about people being in blackface.
Oh, that's what he's talking about.
Because I was thinking he was talking about somebody dressed like Jason.
No, I'm triggered.
It's so scary.
Right.
No, he's talking about being mad at people dressing in blackface because this came up earlier.
But you should be mad at people dressing in black.
Agreed.
Am I wrong?
Agreed.
All right.
So we've established first, before we go any further, blackface, bad.
Even if you're Al Jolson, even if you're related to Al Jolson.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Blackface is bad.
Even though that guy on the last show we did had a slightly weird opinion on that.
But yeah, so if you see these things on college campuses, you're going to get triggered because
it's a fad to be offended by stuff.
And then what's going to end up happening is you're going to have to.
Where they get hot chocolate and play with dolls and a little train sets and I mean, what?
Pause at a college.
He's describing the comfort room when you lose in a spelling bee.
That's exactly what he's describing.
In the national spelling bee, whenever the kids who are, I don't know how old they are,
they're like six and eight.
Yeah, yeah.
That age.
They're like fourth grades.
They're probably like 10.
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And they've gone through all of this work for years and then their dreams are crushed so
spectacularly at such a young age.
On national television.
On national television.
They take them to the comfort room where they do exactly that.
So I'm assuming it's, I think it's a mix.
He is making about only spelling bee related issues on campus.
I think maybe he was in a spelling bee some 50 odd years ago or whatever.
And he did not do well.
No.
Based on this report, he was not good at spelling.
So he's describing something that's a mix between the comfort room that you're describing
in like a chill out tent.
Right.
That's somewhere in the middle there, but it's absolutely not number one.
What a safe space is.
No.
And number two, not something that exists.
Also, even if it did, it's not a bad thing.
It sounds pretty awesome.
That's the other thing.
Who cares?
Yeah.
If I was offended by something and then I was like, wait, you know what,
instead of getting angry and projecting this outward, I'm going to go to this room over here
where I get ice cream.
Yeah.
No, I'm in.
Yeah.
I actually, this whole thing is invalidated.
I want those to exist before we go any further.
All right.
We will them into existence.
A higher institution of learning.
At many colleges, this is happening.
And of course it goes along with politically correct speech and so on and so forth.
But you know, people are just boggled by this.
Meaning what are these kids talking about?
You ask that all the time, don't you?
Yeah.
That's that you nailed it exactly.
Yeah.
The people who are boggled by it are people who are no longer kids.
Yeah.
People who are boggled by like, hmm, what is this?
What is this rap?
Yeah.
People are listening too.
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Did you know that they said that word that we used to say?
He's like a 60, 70 year old guy who doesn't believe HIV causes AIDS.
Of course he's going to be confused by like the changing evolution of culture.
Like people having a greater understanding of each other.
So we're getting into angry old man on a rocking chair territory is what we're about
we're about to dive into that guy.
It's angry old man on a rocking chair in spirit, but it's being presented as
a report.
Yeah.
And I've got the truth.
It's not like, like if on your local news channel, instead of meteorology, it was just
this old dude just going, well, my joints are swelling up.
So we all know what that means.
That means we're in for a good soak.
Probably going to be wet later and we're getting closer and closer to Hillbilly Dan episode.
I'll tell you what now, boy.
Yeah.
I have a difficulty getting it right into that Hillbilly pocket and not going to the bayou.
Yeah.
It's real close.
It's real touch and go.
But so the thing that offends me a little bit about just the beginning of this is that
he's not angry.
He should be angry.
If he believes what he's saying.
Yeah.
He should be furious.
He's, he is kind of reading it like one of those 60 minutes producers though,
where he's, he's giving you that like screen of objectivity.
Yeah.
Like I am just a passionless observer reporting that other people are confused by what young
people are doing.
Yeah.
Which is again, it comes back to a cowardly dodge.
But anyway, he goes on to elaborate his point, which he's still,
it's still a little vague what he's trying to get to.
Okay.
Safe spaces, microaggressions, I'm triggered, I'm triggered, I'm triggered.
You know, where did this come from?
How did it start?
White people.
So I've been lurking around in the shadows for a couple of years.
Don't do that.
Don't describe yourself as lurking around in the shadows.
We also.
No.
Take, we take that as implied.
That's bad.
You've been lurking in shadows.
We know.
Yeah.
You're not, he's not dressing up as like, excuse me, fellow college students.
How are you today?
Yeah.
I am normal man.
Some sort of age based soul man and some shit.
But also it's like.
Yeah.
He's never been kissing.
He's, he's doing the never been kissed thing.
Also going around.
Hey, rapid port.
Stop lurking in shadows, put up that goddamn picture.
What is, why, why would you lurk?
Also, if you've seen what he looks like, you know, you don't want him lurking in
shadows anywhere, let alone on a college campus.
No.
And I mean, I know he's pretty, yeah, let's be fair.
He's using it metaphorically, but choose different words.
Rapid port.
Come on.
Well, yeah.
No, that sounds evil.
It does.
His, his metaphor openly starts out evil.
It sounds at least nefarious.
Yes.
Yeah.
All right.
Piling up information on this and I needed a few final pieces and I finally got them.
Oh, yeah.
And then the last piece fell into place.
So I'm going to tell you exactly where all this stuff came from from the national
alliance on mental illness comes this statistic.
In one year, 25% of all college students in the US have either been diagnosed with a mental
disorder or treated for a mental disorder, one out of four across the US in colleges,
all colleges.
Okay.
I have a number of things to debunk that statistic meaning at anything.
Yeah.
One.
Is that true?
No, I can't, I can't.
Can you find anywhere that says that?
Well, that national association of mental illness, but I can't, but I can't trust their
sourcing necessarily.
I have no idea.
But like you, I don't know where you're going to get that information from number one.
Number two.
But can't you not get that information though?
It seems like a lot of it would have privacy issues involved.
Yeah.
Like what, what would you, what would you, you would go to school, okay.
Leave all that aside because it's not important because here's the bigger picture.
That number, if it does exist, that one in four statistic has to by definition include
people who have drug seeking behaviors, people who are going to try and get
Adderall and shit like that.
Yeah.
It has to include that subset of the population, which is massive.
Yeah.
It also has to include anybody who's gone and gotten a diagnosis and then never gone back.
They just go in and get like therapy at the student health center or whatever and then
don't pursue it.
So like that one in four statistic is meaningless.
No, it seems like it's very, very scary.
Now let's, let's flip it.
I'm going to go with its vaccines.
Let's flip this one in four, three and four don't.
Which who the fuck are those kids?
Exactly.
How are they getting through that shit?
Have they ever been to college?
How are they okay?
It's terrifying out there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So like this idea, it's like, oh my God.
There is a creepy man lurking in the shadows.
How do you not have a paranoid delusion about that?
You're going to need some fucking Xanax to get through the rest of your life after you
see this man.
Yeah, no kidding.
So that, that's kind of like, it's a meaningless statistic for those reasons.
I think the idea of people going to try and get pills, I know a number of people
in my college days, in my after college days, who behave like that.
Yesterday's.
Yeah.
So that I know a number of me's who are constantly looking for pills.
Yeah.
Crazy me.
So that group is included in that 25%.
So it's just, it's like, you need to be a little bit more specific
with your numbers or else you're just spouting.
No, you need to be as vague as possible in order to scare as many people as you can.
Exactly.
In order to drive traffic to no more fake news.
To his credit, he doesn't sell like survival products on his site.
No, no, he sells continuing to get polio.
Yeah, he sells bringing all the, all the vaccines to halting clothes.
He also sells some bullshit.
Let's think in for a second, okay?
Let us observe a microsecond of silence.
He didn't give us that time.
On that one.
In other words, these colleges and universities have been turned into psychiatric clinics.
Psychiatric clinics.
That conclusion does not follow from the premise.
No, it does not at all.
Well, yeah.
25% dubious statistic of college students are diagnosed with mental illnesses.
Yes.
Air go, all colleges are psychiatric clinics.
Okay, great.
Well done, John Rappaport.
Well, all colleges should have a psychiatric clinic.
Absolutely.
I think that's a good idea.
It's an essential piece of student wellness.
Now, if you are turning all colleges into psychiatric clinics,
I don't think that's a way to learn.
I don't think so either, but I think he would agree with you on that.
I think we're in agreement.
You know what?
I think it's a bad idea to do what he said they're doing.
I think he thinks it's like Arkham City.
He thinks that all colleges are Arkham City.
And if he is continuing to lurk in the shadows, that makes him.
We found him, ladies and gentlemen.
We got him.
Call Dr. Hugo Strange.
Yeah, get on up here.
All right, Batman has some more thoughts.
Let's face it.
I mean, come on.
That's the story.
That's the underlying story, whether it's a diagnosis of ADHD
or clinical depression or bipolar or whatever it is.
And the treatment with highly, highly active toxic drugs.
Back in my day, we used to just hit people for treatment.
Yeah, yeah.
You didn't have ADHD.
You had, you're about to get a spanking boy.
You didn't have a mental illness.
You were just a pussy.
Yeah, exactly.
Great.
That's why, that's why.
That didn't perpetuate the cycle at all.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like that whole thing.
It's like, you know what?
Yeah.
I mean, telling me I shouldn't hit my kids.
My dad hit me.
It turned out great.
Yeah.
Oh, you don't see the connection.
No, you don't see the problem there.
You're hitting your kid probably because you got hit as a child.
You know, PTSD wasn't an issue when those boys came back from World War II.
I mean, except for all the ones who killed themselves
and never spoke about it again or anything like that or.
Yeah.
Wind up being, oh yeah, no, PTSD wasn't a thing.
Back when men were men.
Back when men were men and there were fewer of them.
Yeah.
So what does that do?
That creates a complete culture of victimhood.
I don't care what Hillary Clinton advocates or, you know, who cares.
Creepy laugh.
These kids now can have a right to consider themselves victims.
Well, I have a problem.
And so what's the next step?
Well, this explains why I have a problem because I have a mental disorder.
Okay.
Wow.
There we go.
Wait, was that him saying he has a mental disorder?
Oh, okay.
All right.
But it's also a little chicken egg-ish.
You know, I mean, it's like, okay, so you get this diagnosis and now you're a victim,
so you can excuse all your behaviors.
It's like, well, maybe what led to the diagnosis was I suffered from panic attacks
and couldn't leave my house.
Well, does he think people are being triggered without having anything that triggered them?
Like the whole point of, you know, that trigger warning is you were a victim.
And this will bring up those bad memories.
Right. It's the idea of you were sexually assaulted and here's some graphic content
describing a sexual assault.
Yeah. You don't want to be a part of that.
That's a warning.
Yeah.
And safe spaces are like...
Where you don't have to deal with that.
You don't, or you don't have to deal.
Like you're in a situation where people who aren't on, who aren't on the level
are going to just get in the way.
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So let's exclude that.
Yeah. There are zero train cars that are safe spaces.
Let's put it that way.
Yes. Absolutely.
I don't know. Look, I don't want to sit here and defend the entirety of safe space trigger
warning culture, but I know that it's based on something and it's not crazy people.
No.
It's based on people being oppressed.
Yeah.
It's based on taking a stand against things that are being forced upon other people.
The people most against that whole concept of a trigger warning are the people who generally
cause people to need trigger warnings.
Absolutely.
Anyway, back to Batman.
I'm off the hook. Problems studying.
Don't know who to date or how to introduce myself to somebody or get a long sociability
at college.
You know, kid doesn't know what to do.
All of this suddenly got the answer because he had these problems and he wandered into
the clinic or the infirmary or whatever in the first place.
And then all of a sudden before he knew it, oh, well, and so forth, we asked you a few
questions and yes, we'd like you to see a psychiatrist or a psychologist.
He's got a diagnosis.
Which is always a good idea.
He's got a diagnosis.
It's always a good idea.
If you feel like you need to see a psychologist or a psychiatrist, go see one.
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It's a good idea.
It's never a bad idea.
Right, but he's painting it as a forced thing, which is never the case.
No.
No one ever, unless you're like suicidal or you're threatening to hurt somebody,
no one ever forces you to go see a therapist.
It's against the law.
Yeah.
It's quite literally illegal.
He's creating this false idea about therapy and psychiatric help that is like,
you go in for a little minor problem.
Boom.
And that's when they give you AIDS.
That's when they shanghai you.
It's like basically you're being kidnapped into therapy or whatever.
That doesn't happen.
No.
The only way that anybody can force you to do anything is if you present a legitimate
danger to yourself or others.
And even then, it's really hard to.
It absolutely is.
It's very hard for good reason.
Yeah, because it would be fucking scary as a world system if you could just be forced
into things.
It would be awful to go back to all the way back to like 30 years ago when you could
do that to women.
Yeah, for being hysterical.
Yeah, exactly.
It would be terrible to go back to those times so far ago.
Jim Card is right there.
You can play at any time you want to.
Well, I couldn't turn in the assignment.
No, the dog didn't eat my homework.
I have a mental disorder.
Okay.
I believe I have a dog and I don't.
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25 percent.
Get that through your skull.
Get it through your skull that that number is meaningless.
Get it through Castle Gray skull.
Get it through your cowl.
Otherwise.
So yeah, I mean, there is an interesting conversation possibly to be had about the
idea of people being able to get away with stuff because of mental illness?
As a member of the mental illness community myself.
Oh, myself.
I'm in that group too.
Right, because we're willing to talk about it now to fight against Batman.
There is the question of over-diagnosing.
Oh, absolutely.
Because that's always a concern with any kind of medical industry.
And that's a discussion within the community.
Exactly.
It's something that we all consider quite frequently.
It's something that's really important because with all the side effects that your
medications can have, if you get a wrong diagnosis, that can lead to very serious
complications.
Yes.
But that said, it's generally not as big of an issue as these people always portray it.
In very, very small percentage of cases it is.
And that's something that people are keenly aware of.
There is a debate about.
Over-diagnosis is one thing.
Also, over-prescription of stuff.
Absolutely.
That is something that is being discussed.
And it's a real world thing.
But it's not real the way Batman is describing it.
Absolutely not.
We're just calling him Batman now.
We're just going to call him Batman now.
That's what he is.
So he has some more thoughts about trigger warnings and shit.
Now, with that underlying framework, you see, how easy is it to step from there into
a student or students getting together and saying, you know, there are certain things
that are going on in the environment here that are upsetting us.
They are.
That are triggering us.
There was Nazi propaganda painted on universities.
That's going to trigger people.
Back when I went to the University of Missouri.
Mostly it's going to trigger anti-Nazi people.
Yeah, or Jews.
Yeah.
Back when I went to the University of Missouri, there was a situation where a bunch of cotton
was put outside, like just thrown out outside the office of the Legion of Black Collegians.
And, you know, the people who did it were taken care of by the administration.
They weren't like beat up or anything.
I did like the way you put them.
They were taken care of.
They were dealt with.
Like they were from the Vegas mafia.
They got very short graves out in the desert.
We took out their eyes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nobody's going to do that again.
As I recall, they got expelled.
I'm not entirely sure.
I don't remember all the facts, but that's how I remember going down.
I would prefer there were far more severe punishments.
Absolutely.
Not necessarily a three-foot grave, but not necessarily not a three-foot grave.
But that sort of thing happens a lot.
Yeah.
And that sort of thing is not...
When people respond to that, it's not mental illness that's causing them to respond.
They should be very offended by that.
Well, it's a threat.
You're being threatened.
Absolutely.
If you are not...
If you do not look for a safe space after being threatened,
then I mean, that's...
Why aren't the guys perpetrating the racist, horrible acts in the mental illness camp?
I don't know.
Shouldn't they be the ones in there?
Well, they're the ones who believe that mental illness is weakness.
Shouldn't they be the ones who are so angry about it?
They're the ones who believe that mental illness is weakness,
and they're the ones who will never get the help that they probably need.
Desperately need.
Especially if you go out of your way to get cotton and put it outside a black building.
Yeah.
That's a lot of work.
Racism is a lot of work.
And it indicates that something is not working right in your brain.
No.
God, what if there was...
Let's say there was a pill or even better yet,
a gas that we could just pump in to heavily racist areas,
and then they just stopped being racist.
I'm still against that because of informed consent.
Admittedly, I agree with you.
Now, I will say that the side effects of this gas in my head are your legs don't work anymore,
so we don't have to worry about it either way.
So you're not mobile?
Yeah, exactly.
How about we just make your dick way too big?
How about that?
Instead of no legs, just make your dick comically large.
And that's the genie ironic twist to that one.
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, I just want a big dick, and then it's...
Oh, no.
It's that careful what you wish for.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
So Batman's going to get back to this, and at the end of this,
he ends up revealing who the real enemy in the world is,
and he shares some thoughts with Scientology in an unfortunate way.
Great.
Get it?
Because, oh, we already have a mental disorder,
you see, so we're a little bit off.
Chemical imbalance in the brain, whatever, whatever, whatever.
You can't...
There you have it.
No, no, no, you can't just whatever, whatever, whatever.
You can't like yada, yada, yada.
You can't, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chemical imbalance in the brain, whatever.
You know, no big deal.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
This is a hard-hitting investigative report.
Yeah, no kidding.
Now we have a right to begin talking this crazy language,
and we need to save space in a room, and the teachers and staff
have to attend to us, and we can regress back into being children
because we've already been diagnosed by a mental health professional
as having a mental disorder.
Ooh, la la.
I hope you really get this, because this is a key to understanding
what is going on, not only going on at U.S. colleges and universities,
but what is eating out the country from the inside.
The profession of psychiatry, and I'm going to break all that down for you,
chapter and verse in this investigative report.
He doesn't.
Uh, what?
Okay.
So psychiatry is the enemy.
Psychiatry is the enemy.
Yep.
Now, I'm going to say, he's going to go down the medication is changing people thing, right?
Yeah, there'll be touches of that, shades of that, if you will.
Where is this going?
It goes to places you don't expect.
Okay, of course it does.
Before we get to those places, we've got to deal with him being a little bit repetitive,
but it's worth listening to this clip because of, you'll see.
But you've got the headline and the top paragraph now.
Real quick, he's a complete asshole, right?
I don't know him as a man.
No, look, no, no, no, you don't get to do that.
I don't know him.
He just generalized every U.S. college.
Yes.
As being a, like, and that's the whole, like, that's the fight that so many conservatives have.
That's the fight that so many conservatives have because they have that thing where they send their,
you know, Christian conservative brainwash kids to the university,
and they meet other people, and surprisingly enough, they come back with all of this information
that they never got from their tiny-ass bullshit town.
Maybe they smoke a little weed.
Maybe they smoke a little weed.
They start to see the world.
I bet they even had sex on that campus.
Oh my God, maybe they started to have feelings for a different sort of person.
Oh, they had sex all over that campus.
Yeah, maybe you mad a gay person.
You're like, oh my God, everything I've been taught about, you is wrong.
What? Oh my God, that's insane.
So it's always that, it's always that whole bullshit, like, if we could just keep them in this bubble,
you know, like a cult.
If we could keep that, like, every small town should just be called a cult town
because that little bubble they have of those people who never go anywhere,
and I grew up in a small town, so I know.
Probably die in a small town.
I probably will die in a small town, but at least it'll be in a bathroom stall of a bar.
Sure.
And they try and keep that short, small viewpoint in there,
and the moment somebody goes away and comes back with a different one,
they blame the university.
Yep.
As though the university wasn't just a collection of people from other places.
Fuck you, it's full of crazies, and psychiatry is to blame.
Oh, okay.
That makes things so much easier.
Because it's Arkham campus.
Right.
And it's a loony bin.
Look, if you have your kids.
It's full of crazy people who demand that you not dress in blackface,
that you not, you know, misgender people.
Right.
It's like, it's, people are crazy for demanding acceptance.
Yeah.
And I guess if that's your argument, I can't, I can't really argue with you,
except to say I completely disagree.
It's weird how those same people, though, are always the ones who are all the most against conformity.
So it's always like, I hate it when these people demand something that goes against
what I think is what everyone should be.
Don't tell me what to be.
Right, right.
You should be what I tell you to be.
Individualism.
Yeah.
The libertarian ideas.
So long as everybody is an individual in the very same way.
Actually, he's going to get to individuality in a little bit.
I bet he's right on.
Totally.
Now you can see how this whole business came about.
Not yet.
And how, of course, it's destroying the country because of the majority of the best and the
brightest attending colleges and universities, 25% of them.
That's not a majority.
Uh, 25% of 100%.
It's not, it's not even close.
Is a majority, right?
No, it's not even a majority of half.
What is it?
What is, what is a majority?
Remind, remind us what a majority is.
I don't know.
I just learned all this liberal hippie-dippy bullshit.
I don't know about math in college.
Okay.
Them already at such a young age are being diagnosed with a mental disorder.
Yeah, college.
And drugged with highly toxic brain scrambling drugs.
Naturally, some bizarre things are going to come up out of the hoppers such as,
I'm triggered, I'm triggered, I'm triggered, I'm triggered.
I need to save space.
That was a microaggression.
He wore a Halloween costume.
I'm going psychotic.
None of these things are related to each other?
No, but again, it's so offensive to me the idea that he's saying,
you wore a Halloween costume.
They're talking specifically about blackface.
It's always minimizing.
It's, if you rename it to something, it's locker room talk.
Right.
It's not sexual assault talk.
It's locker room talk.
Right.
It's the battle of language.
It's not, it's not blackface.
It's a Halloween costume.
You and I know everybody wears Halloween costumes.
Of course.
Which means everybody wears tasteful Halloween costumes.
Sure.
Zero people wear fucking blackface.
On the last episode, we dealt with this in a little bit greater detail,
the idea of like what's okay as a Halloween costume and like blackface is totally cool,
all that shit.
So we don't need to retread it totally.
What's okay is a Halloween costume.
But this is so great because he's spouting this stuff and he's about to make a really
smooth transition that I think everyone can enjoy.
As smooth as his dentures.
You bet.
And the drugs themselves create a distorted perception of reality.
Keep that in mind.
So that some of these reactions that you're seeing from college students that you scratch
your head about and just can't figure out are coming from the drugs.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm getting a little worked up about this.
I've been on this case for 20 years now.
It's been on the case for 20 years.
20 years.
Before I guess for the next piece, which is gigantic.
Let me make sure that you know that at infowarstore.com, you can get Roger Stone's new book,
The Making of the President, 20 off, now available for 20% off.
That's a majority of percent off.
We all know that.
He goes on for like three minutes or so selling Roger Stone's book.
But it's great because this is a show that does have commercial breaks.
What the fuck are you doing?
You're in the middle of a report about how psychology isn't real and it's the enemy.
And there's a huge bombshell coming.
Huge bombshell.
But you know, we got to talk about how great this book is.
I love how worked up he is by his voice being like,
and I'm real angry about that.
In case he might be sedated.
Yeah, no kidding.
He might be on these meds.
I'm getting worried.
That's, that's a Stephen Wright opening with a, I'm a little hyper.
Yeah.
That's what that is.
He might be taking some of these herbs that you can buy on infowarstore.com.
Those are totally fine.
He's got a great psychiatrist.
Super male vitality, DNA force, all that stuff.
Totally fine.
But these psychotropic drugs that you can get from a psychiatrist.
Evil.
Well, you know what?
I will say that they do have a greater propensity for harm because they're real.
Right.
So anything that's real is of course much more likely to be damaged.
There's high risk, high reward.
Yes, exactly.
So or more like low, low, low risk, high reward.
Yeah.
A good trade off.
Yeah.
So are you ready to get to this bombshell?
I am ready to get to the bombshell.
I want to be clear.
Okay.
I'm not sure there was one.
All right.
But this is what the true info wars fashion.
Always teasing a bombshell.
But this is what he gets to next.
Conveniently forgetting the bombshell.
Okay.
Next piece here.
Okay.
If you go to the psychiatric Bible, and there is a thing called the psychiatric
Bible is official, name is the DSM, the diagnostic and statistical manual of mental
disorders published by the American Psychiatric Association.
Why is he such a dick about that?
Because he has to be.
They just named it a thing.
You don't have to make fun of just the name of it.
He does because he's got so little.
Yeah.
But that's such a.
He's got so little juice.
Yeah.
But still it's like, it's going to appeal to people who are dumb.
They're just going to hear him sarcastically lilt his voice and be like, oh, he's minimizing
it.
It must not be important.
It's, it's classic bullying.
Yeah, it is.
It's a third grade move right there.
1000%.
Yeah.
When you don't have any information, you just like, neener, neener.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's what he's doing.
Oh, psychiatrists, they go to parties.
He's about to give a fairly sizable.
To all psychiatrists.
I'm sorry for insinuating you guys go to parties.
I know you don't.
It's okay to update it every few years.
You will find that there is a list and a description of roughly, ready, 300 separate
and distinct mental disorders by name.
What?
Defiance disorder, attention deficit, hyperactivity disorder, clinical depression,
et cetera, et cetera.
The ones you know about and obviously the vast majority you've never heard of.
300.
Okay.
Okay.
Now.
Now what?
Here's the revelation.
What's the revelation?
There is no, and listen carefully here.
I am.
Every word is important.
There is no defining physical diagnostic test of any kind for any of those 300 so-called
mental disorders.
That's not true.
That's a complete lie.
That's not true at all.
It's a horrible, complete lie.
That's the zero is true thing.
Well, but here's what he means, I think, because I'm going to be generous to him in one sense.
You're going to pay for his new dentures.
If you have a TB or something like that, there's a specific A to B TB test.
Yes.
You can take that test and it'll tell you yes or no if you have TB.
Yes.
There is no test like that for depression, per se, or schizophrenia or anything like that.
But there are a fuck ton of physical tests that give very important information that
lead doctors to those diagnoses.
Yeah.
I consulted with my dear friend Dr. Gums, who is a real life doctor, and I asked him-
Bleeding Gums Murphy, who's also on The Simpsons.
I've said a bunch of shit about him on the air and he's told me not to say his real name anymore.
Okay.
So he's Dr. Gums.
He's Dr. Gums.
He is a really smart, real doctor, and I asked him about that.
He's like, that's just absolutely incorrect.
There's so many physical tests that go into psychiatric diagnoses.
There are thyroid panels, there are CAT scans that you can do, any kind of brain scans.
There's other physical tests that are just basic even movement tests and stuff like that.
Now, granted, it doesn't in the same way as TB, yes or no test or an allergy scratch test or
something like that.
It's not the same, but this is such an elementary understanding of what physical tests are and
what a diagnosis is.
Well, but here's the other angle on why you could understand where somebody is coming from
if they're coming from this angle, especially if they're, say, 7,000 years old or however old he is.
Let's see, his brother's Methuselah.
Yeah, yeah.
The hardest part about the history of psychiatry and psychology is that there was such a push for
a long time to try and get it into an actual scientific method, which for the longest time
it was just a guy like Freud saying, you dream weird.
How about that?
You play with your poop.
You don't want to yell at your mother.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right.
That's dumb crazy shit.
So you can understand if somebody had only read Freud thinking that's what psychology or
psychiatry is.
You understand that point of view.
And to that.
The problem is that means you haven't looked at any psychiatry for the past, say, length
of time you've been investigating it or one of your so years.
Or you have looked at some stuff and you're not really recognizing.
I mean, he even said it when he was talking about the DSM that they revise it regularly.
Because psychology and psychiatry are evolving sciences.
I also like how blown away he was by 300.
There's seven billion people on the planet.
I'm shocked there aren't seven billion different mental illness.
Sure.
And like within that 300, there's like five of them are just depression, but they're
different sorts of depression, which means there are different paths of treatment for
depression.
There are different ways to go about attacking it, which again, if you're dealing with
misdiagnosis being a huge issue, because medications are and can sometimes be very toxic.
Yeah.
You know, like I'm destroying my liver, so I don't go crazy or whatever.
Sure.
It's like, do you want to die now or 60 years from now?
Do you want to have a good life while good life is possible?
Or do you want to be 80?
Yeah.
Or do you want to live like you have in terrible times in your life?
Yeah, exactly.
But the other thing that I think is super important is the S in DSM is statistical.
Because it's based on real observations of tons of people, tons of patients.
They've diagnosed and categorized mental disorders that do happen and found what
works statistically.
Right.
That's why it's in the manual.
Well, but people can't understand statistics.
No, it's very complicated.
You should read the new Michael Lewis book, which is all about that.
Yeah, it's all about that.
Everyone doesn't believe in coincidence essentially.
Yeah, the whole, I was actually talking to somebody earlier about this where that whole
myth of, oh, well, people go crazy on the full moon.
And you just look at it from a statistics-based idea and you realize, no, they don't.
But when somebody goes crazy and there's the full moon, you associate the two.
When we talk about it.
When somebody doesn't go, or when somebody goes crazy and there's no full moon,
you don't register that.
You don't remember it because there wasn't a full moon.
Well, it's like suicide rising around the holiday.
Yeah, exactly.
That's not true, but we always hear about it.
You think it, because it makes an intuitive sense to you, you know.
The full moon is unusual.
Yeah.
So unusual things should happen.
Well, statistics.
Holidays are sad and you should kill yourself.
Well, statistics are like a science that's desperately in need of a story to make them
interesting.
Yeah.
So you have the like full moon story and we were like, oh, let's fucking latch onto
that, whether it's true or not.
Yeah.
But anyway.
Well, human beings are storytellers.
That's what we are.
Yeah.
That's the only way we understand things.
You know who tells a fucking shit story?
Batman.
Batman?
Yeah.
Not a blood test.
Not a hair test.
Not a saliva test.
Not a urine test.
Not a brain scan.
Not a genetic assay.
Nothing.
Zero.
Zilch.
Not a nothing.
This in fact is an open secret in the psychiatric community.
Again, it's not.
They understand this.
So it would be like you going into the doctor and he says, you know, you've got cancer.
Yeah.
I think you've got cancer.
You going to run any tests?
No.
Well, we don't actually have any tests, but from what you say and looking at you,
I would say that you've got cancer and it's now time, you know, we could start an hour
on some heavy rounds of chemotherapy, which of course will stop the reproduction of all
your cells and we hope it'll kill the tumors before it kills you.
Yeah, but you haven't run any tests.
Well, we don't really have any tests.
It would be like that.
It wouldn't be like that.
He is also kind of insinuating that cancer treatment is bad for you as well.
Well, I mean, yeah, I think you probably would.
But I mean, it seems like he's really mad because somebody diagnosed him with cancer.
That's why he lost his teeth.
Yeah, that could be.
Well, you guys will see the picture.
Yeah, holy shit.
Also, if I was diagnosed with cancer and then the doctor pressed play on a 1980s style
and I heard that sound, I would be totally cool with it.
I love the idea of like trying to figure out when they send them to break.
Yeah.
And it's like you're you're deep in this metaphor that we know you're not going to find
your way out of the woods.
Just hit the hit the hit the music.
And even better, there has never been a break where that music would even become close to
like they never end on a high note.
They're always going to break in the middle of and if you got diagnosed with cancer.
Like no, play something that's appropriate.
And so yeah, something like a dirge.
Yeah, exactly.
So also the idea that there aren't any tests again, not true.
Just in the background, there's always the gospel choir going, you're going to die.
You can't always get what you want.
So that is like that's just not true.
But then the other part, none of none of what he said was true.
I'm being extra decent to him here by proposing this, which is like if you if you do some of
these tests, oftentimes you find that psychiatric conditions have an underlying condition that
is causing it.
You know, like sometimes depression is caused by hyper or I'm sorry, hypothyroidism.
Yes.
For something like that.
So you can do these tests and you can confirm the depression and you can confirm another condition.
But that's not even what he's talking about.
No, no, exactly.
And that's special report.
And that's the other thing that I feel like is his main like complete and utter misunderstanding
of depression.
And I think it's a very common misunderstanding, which is always the way you guys think it's
an outside thing happening to me that makes me depressed.
Yeah, where it's really the depression is making me happen to the outside things.
Yes.
It comes from within and then radiates outward.
Yeah.
So it causes it causes you or I to interpret everything around us in a way that is not
accurate.
Yeah, exactly.
So to you, you know, whenever people say, and I've said this on other more mentally
illness themed podcast, but it is always like, you know, well, I've been sad.
And it's like, no, you've had things that made you sad.
You have never felt a deep and unending sadness come from within you trying to eat you from
the inside out.
Much like the other people of that.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm accusing others.
Well, now you have a secondary diagnosis because you're an asshole.
So Batman goes on to say drop what he thinks is a bombshell.
Yes.
I'm going to let this play out and then debunk it pretty hard.
John Rappaport back talking about the number one mind control program at U.S. colleges.
So you've got these 300 so-called mental disorders that are listed in the psychiatric
Bible and there's no diagnostic.
We're getting a lot of so-called the moment that came into the lexicon.
So-called judge.
So-called bus.
So-called that.
And that just undermines.
How could you have any confidence in literally anything because somebody is calling it a
so-called blank?
Well, this is a so-called investigative report.
Fake news.
Also, I noticed that he's doing a lot of this, you know, the okay sign that Trump does all
the time.
The Mike Sheehan okay sign.
Wait, Trump stole it from Mike Sheehan.
Trump stole it from Mike Sheehan.
So anyway.
Test.
What so ever for any of them that defines any of the so-called disorders and that means
that a psychiatrist can diagnose you, your child, a student at a college with anything
that he wants to and then comes the hammer.
But not a bat.
The hammer is drugs.
That's perfect.
And in case you're thinking of trying to worm out of my argument here and say, well, but
we know that all these mental disorders are chemical imbalances in the brain.
False.
No.
Wrong.
Absolutely wrong.
Because first of all, there is no baseline normal test for what a normal baseline chemical
balance in the brain is.
That's fair.
I think that is fair.
That's a fair point.
That's absolutely fair.
There is no necessary way to tell what is normal, but that does not prove his point.
No.
It's fair.
It's a fair point, but it's not.
It doesn't prove anything.
And I have documented through an admission by Dr. Ronald Pies, who is, you know, one of these
erudite psychiatrists.
Ronald Pies sounds fake.
Sounds so fake.
With, you know, a resume this long, retired now, emeritus, editor, and so on, who said,
oh no, the chemical imbalance theory mental illness was always an urban myth.
Quote, always an urban myth.
So that doesn't even hold up.
Are you saying that Dr. Pies called something an urban myth?
I looked into this and I found the article that he took this from.
There was a guy named Dr. Pies.
Yes.
Which is pretty cool.
This is from the psychiatric times.
This was an article called psychiatry's new brain mind and the legend of chemical imbalance.
It's from 2011.
And he does say that this idea that chemical imbalance being responsible wholly for mental
illness is an urban legend, never a theory seriously propounded by well-informed psychiatrists.
But he goes on to explain.
He's quoting the National Institute of Mental Health Director Thomas Insell here.
As Insell describes the new model, conditions such as schizophrenia or bipolar disorder are
attributable to rare but highly potent genetic variations that lead to dysfunction in multiple
complex brain circuits.
However, the particular symptomatic manifestations in a given individual, the disease phenotype,
is partly dependent on the person's experiences and environment.
We may hypothesize, and this is my view, not necessarily Dr. Insell's, that given developmentally
based biases in various neuro circuits, the young boy or girl may be predisposed to the
use of certain dysfunctional cognitive strategies, for example, viewing everyone in the environment
as uniformly threatening or rejecting.
Wow.
That's a really well said, really well thought out, really well researched point that he made.
Right.
I don't think, now, you know, paint me wrong.
Yeah.
I don't think that was very well represented in the quote that, no, no.
No, what the article is essentially saying.
No, that's a perfect way of pointing out everything there, is that even if you have the
same type of genetic, what, you know, and whether or not you would call it a dysfunction
in your genes as opposed to anomalies.
Because there are certain.
Let's call it an anomaly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, they're, they're trade-offs there.
Sure.
In, with my experience with bipolar disorder, there's always been a bit of a trade-off.
Mental illness sometimes gives you bonuses.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It gives you power-ups, if you will.
If you think that you suck, sometimes you'll work harder than everyone else who's complacent.
So there's that.
Absolutely.
But now, but, but the other thing that he points out is that it is relevant where you are growing
up and where you are experiencing these things.
It's like the anomaly is the bomb and the environment is the blasting cap or whatever.
You know, like it's, you can have a latent psychiatric condition that'll never be set
off because you lived the right circumstances.
Well, and not, not even, not even necessarily that, but you can have the same condition as
somebody living in a completely different world.
It may be the same genetic situation, but you're going to react and you're going to
show different symptoms because you're dealing with an environment that is coming out in as well.
So in, in certain situations, you know, even if in, you know, even if you are talking about
those colleges where he feels like it's an issue, somebody may have, you know,
one illness or another one, but they're both exhibiting the same symptoms for it.
There are plenty of times where, I mean, I mean, if you go through the history of bipolar disorder,
it's really hard to diagnose because it may be that your symptoms are exactly the same as this
disease or exactly the same as that disease.
And so you wind up going through all these different medications because
you don't actually know what your underlying problem is.
You just know shit's wrong.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And, and so it's a well thought out and he should be the emeritus editor of blank.
Shout out to Dr. Pies.
Yeah, Dr. Pies, you do good work.
I wish you didn't drive in a car with so many clowns in it.
So, but also to take it back to Batman.
What he's saying is a really bad representation of what Dr. Pies is arguing.
A horrible one.
He's citing him more or less out of context because the actual quote sounds good for his argument.
Right.
But what Dr. Pies is saying is essentially that the idea of a chemical imbalance is
a simplistic, inaccurate way to look at it.
But these are genetic mutations in the brain that would cause chemical differences.
Yeah.
So it isn't, it is in a refutation of the idea that your brain chemistry is different.
No.
It's just that the term brain chemistry is not really what we're talking about.
Is reductive and not really representative of what may be going on.
My point is that John Rappaport is a really bad investigative journalist.
If he's citing that article in the way he is.
And he's been doing that for 20 years.
He's been on the case for 20-
He's been on the case for 20 years.
Why wouldn't he at least have read the full article?
Or if he was an actual journalist.
Also, he did pull out the first five words of that quote, right?
Yeah.
It was the first, like he got what he wanted and then did not bother to read the rest.
Let me go one step further.
If you're on this case for 20 years, why don't you give Dr. Pies a ring?
Why don't you call him and ask him what he meant by that instead of pulling an out of context quote?
Why don't you actually do some investigation?
What are you doing?
How could you get a hold of Dr. Pies?
What?
What are you just going to wander around different window sales and see if he shows up?
No.
I saw a great tweet that was a picture of Jeff Sessions.
And it was like Jeff Sessions looks like a baby who was turned old by a witch because he stole
a pie off a window.
That's great.
Yep.
Anyway, that's perfect.
Also, he's a horrible racist who should die.
Yep.
Fuck him.
So all these college students and everybody really are completely at the mercy of these
psychiatrists who will say, well, you got this disorder, that disorder, and now comes the drugs.
Oh, the antidepressants, Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, and so forth.
In my article, which is up now at Infowars, number one mind control program at U.S.
colleges, you can see the effects of these drugs as cited in study after study after study and their
influence, how they push people over the edge into committing violence.
And when I say violence, yes, could be throwing a rock through a window, but it could also be
murder, could also be mass murder, could also be suicide.
We're talking serious stuff here as a result of these SSRI as they're called antidepressants.
And that's just one class of drug.
What?
There are more?
There are others called major tranquilizers or neuroelectrics, the first of which was
Thor's.
They are not called major tranquilizers.
That sounds like the name of a David Wayne's movie.
Yeah.
So like we're laughing and it's unfortunate because there is, I mean, there is
reality to some people, you know, oftentimes, and he does deal with this a little bit later
in his special report, that it's dangerous to go off a medication randomly.
And so a lot of the times the violence that you end up seeing for people is people who have
fallen off medication.
So that he's not dealing with very accurately, but there are negative responses to medication
and that's a reality of the world.
So yeah, but there are negative responses to not searching out medication.
It's, there's not, there's not going to be a, it's, there's not going to be a cure.
And even then, if you are going to seek out medication, you're not doing it on a fucking
whim.
There are, you're also not doing it because someone shanghai'd you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're doing it because you're struggling.
Unless you're on a TV show.
Is that a reality TV show yet?
Getting help.
Maybe you have a mental illness.
That's all of them.
Let's find out.
It's literally every reality show.
That's a good point.
But like, I know a number of people who are mentally ill who consider getting help and
I always tell them, you know, I can't tell you what to do, but I really think that there's
help to be had.
If you want to go, I'll give you some resources and I try and help people as much as they can.
A lot of them don't ever follow through.
No.
So like the idea that people are being forced into something is, is bizarre.
Even people who do go in often go for one session and then never go back.
But even then,
mental health is difficult.
I'm not going to say, I think the way that he's putting forced is such a negative.
One of the hardest parts about having mental illness is that sometimes you'll feel pressure
and that's not feeling like you're forced to go that.
But that's like, you know, your friends are putting this pressure on you saying, you know,
you should go get help and it makes you feel, you know, it makes you feel like you're being forced.
Yeah.
I can understand that.
The way he's putting it is more like the white coats are coming for you.
They're going to put you in a straight jacket and they're going to take you into that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
No.
Yeah.
He's a, he's a, yeah.
No, he's, he's very, he's very much angering me right now.
You can hear it in my monotone voice.
Yeah.
I'm so worked up over this.
Well, because you're on howl doll.
So this next clip is where it spins into a little bit of like wacky conspiracy territory.
Oh, thank God.
I've been missing that.
Yeah.
They are creating motor brain damage.
Just because of why?
Just because of where that clip started.
When he says they, he's talking about the drugs, not people.
Just so I want to be sure.
The psychiatrists are giving the drugs.
Look, but I want to be sure that I'm not giving him like false context.
Guns don't kill people.
Psychiatrists with guns kill people.
Psychiatrists with pill-shaped guns kill people.
Yes, or guns that shoot pills.
What does that mean?
That means that your ability to move and function physiologically as a human being
is damaged by these drugs.
The great reference on this is Peter Bragan's book, Toxic Psychiatry, 1991 Saint Martin's Press,
which should be on every bookshelf.
No.
So here you go.
U.S. colleges.
Which should be on every bookshelf.
Mind control.
Psychiatry is basically a mind control operation.
Diagnoses with no tests, completely arbitrary.
Giving you the sense that you have a mental disorder and now you're a victim
and therefore you have certain privileges and rights and so forth.
I'm triggered.
I need to save space, microaggressions.
The drugs are in fact scrambling your brains.
What else do you need to say that psychiatry is a mind control program?
It's the extension of MK Ultra of the CIA, the famous mind control program,
into the entire society right out in the open.
And as Alex is fond of saying, they're not even trying to hide it anymore.
They're just giving it to you.
Here we are.
They are trying to hide it, but there's something called the Freedom of Information Act.
They would love to still be hiding it.
No, no, no.
He's talking about just psychiatry.
Oh, I thought he was talking mainly about MK Ultra and the mind control program.
The program that ended back in the 70s and 60s?
Yeah, yeah.
They're not even trying to hide it anymore.
Yeah.
Because they can't.
It gets the law.
That's a bunch of people who have sued.
Yeah, and again, I would totally understand where he's coming from if we lived in the 1920s.
Yep.
Because you do have those people who are out of fucking control.
You've seen movies.
And apparently so is he.
And that's all he's been researching for 20 years.
Or, you know, like weird conspiracy blogs and shit like that.
Who wins if you have motor dysfunction?
See, who's who's winning?
Why is it always nobody wins?
Everybody just loses.
Well, it's the I think that there's two possible paths.
He wants the argument to go down and he never really gets to either of them because of course,
the first is that if you have motor paralysis or whatever and you're fucked up,
then you just become like, that's what they want the whole population to be.
A bunch of dead zombies.
But then you can't go to work.
Right.
Like they still need people to do shit.
No, it's silly.
But then the other one is yada, yada, yada.
It's silly.
Exactly.
The other idea is that you get this.
You take these pills and they scramble your brain.
And because you have this mentally ill victim mentality,
you go out and you start yelling the Black Lives Matter
and you're going to end up causing a race war.
I think that that's the other argument that he can't fully flesh out.
But that's kind of what he, that's kind of dog whistly within this.
Because he's talking about all the safe spaces.
Yeah, no, you're right.
So much of that is about Black Lives Matter not being raped.
It's really bad.
Trans issues.
Yeah.
Such things are what he's angry and confused about.
Right.
Because he's an old, scared man.
Yeah.
He's an old, scared man who's mad.
Who just wants his teeth back.
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:48,000
That was, that was the plot of A Dark Knight Rises.
Wasn't it?
That was that plot.
He wants his teeth back.
He wants someone to come over and hang that goddamn picture.
Because it's too much for one man to do.
So crazy.
Every time I hang out on the college campuses,
nobody is hanging up that picture and everybody's taking drugs.
I've been waiting to talk about him for a really long time just because of how much
I'm fascinated by that picture.
I want to get a really high pixel version of it so I can zoom in and see what the pain is.
Just, just do, just do the TV show.
And then, and then, and hence, I want to, I want to get a really like a megapixel version of it.
Okay.
Zoom in, isolate it, make a shirt of that.
Make a shirt of the picture that John Rappaport won't put up on the wall.
Where, where is he?
I have no fucking idea.
He's not in the studio.
I saw the picture.
He's in his attic.
He's in, he's in the middle of fucking, he looks like he's in the bayou himself.
Oh, nah, I'll tell you, boy.
Like, he's got, he's got bodies in, in his fucking shed.
He, he is one of, like all of these dudes who Skype in and host the fourth hour,
pretty much all of them with the exception of like Anthony Cumia has his own studio and stuff
like that.
Right.
But the rest of them who Skype in and do the fourth hour are just in rooms.
Like it's, it's weird.
And his room is the most barren.
It's so bizarre.
How great would it be if they were all in the same house?
They just had different Skype rooms.
Oh my God.
Like, like confessional on a reality TV show.
There is a show.
That is a show right now.
All the weirdos who are like Alex Jones associates are living under one house.
They have to stop being polite.
And they have to start getting crazy.
They're already doing how, how, how long before they eat each other?
If you put all of the conspiracy people in the same house and cut them long enough.
Yeah.
Sooner or later, they're going to eat one of them, right?
Well, yeah.
I mean, if you cut them off from the outside world, like they do in big brother,
right?
They'd have to assume that everything.
Okay.
So I think a lot of people who are into these conspiracy narratives have,
I don't know what the cognitive bias would be,
but they believe that things are moving faster than they actually are.
So everything is heading for a crash so fucking fast.
Right.
But it's not.
And so they always have to temper their, like their fear.
The, uh, the apocalypse cult idea where it's always coming, you know, in, in a year.
Guns, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
These sorts of things are all coming.
If you cut them off from news, I think they're natural fear that things are moving fast within
a week, they'd be like, we're cut off from the outside world, but I'm positive by now
they've cut off the second amendment.
Right.
Right.
That's when eating humans would start.
I, well, with the amount of time Alex Jones talks about cannibalism, there is a part of
me that thinks he's always like this close to being like, I wonder what a human tastes like.
They did do a special report about that new show, The Santa Clarita Diet.
What's that?
It's apparently a show starring, uh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Don't, don't worry about it.
No.
We're going to go with John Rappaport.
John Rappaport is starring in the Santa Clarita Diet.
Michael Rappaport.
No, who's that Drew Barrymore?
Drew Barrymore.
Who's that Drew Barrymore?
It's a lady.
That's another show.
It's about a lady who's a cannibal.
Okay.
And he's like, this is just normalizing.
I'm like, no, it's not.
It's art.
No, that's pretty much, that's pretty much as far away from normalizing cannibalism as you can get.
Yeah.
So he's, yeah.
But seriously, what do you think people taste like?
Man, it's, you know what?
You think they're good?
I think it's,
Do you think they taste like pigs?
Well, here's the thing.
I think it's different by different cuts of meat.
Okay.
Because, uh, you know, like your ass would be like a much more fatty kind of meat.
If Alex Jones did listen to this show and we went on a long rant about what, what humans taste like.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, like your, your, your, um, your bicep would be like fast twitch muscle.
Right.
So it's stringy.
Yeah.
It would be, it would be more like, uh, like the white meat kind of shit.
As I recall.
Okay.
I had a long conversation with my doctor friend, Dr. Gums, about this.
And like Dr. Gums lost his teeth eating people.
Chicken is white meat because most of their body is muscles that has to move really fast.
Because they are the best race.
Yes.
It's the superior meat.
Cows, a lot of their muscles are slow twitch muscles.
They don't have to move very fast.
Okay.
And so there's, you know, the fat marble.
That's why they're tender.
Yeah.
And it becomes, that's why you have the red meat there.
So I think your ass would be like red meat.
Okay.
And maybe your thighs and then your, your like bicep would be white meat.
I would probably go bicep.
You would go bicep?
I think so.
Okay.
I'm a chicken and poultry kind of guy.
Everybody, what?
What type of, what part of a man would you eat is a new corner on this show?
And if you say dick, I got a high five.
All right.
All right.
We got to come back to the center.
But also hit us up on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight.
Tell us what type of person you are.
All right.
So this is, this is fun.
He talks some more bullshit and then he goes to break and he introduces a clip that we're not
going to listen to, but it's a clip that goes back to fears about agenda 21.
Because if 25% of all college students in the US are being diagnosed or treated for a mental
disorder, majority of them, these are nothing more than psychiatric clinics.
They are little nests that produce violence and craziness and insanity.
That's why where the insanity begins.
That's where it comes up.
Okay.
Okay.
We're going to take a break in a couple of minutes, but I want to tell you,
after we come back from the break, stay with us because what I'm talking about is mind control,
slavery over the mind.
What Rob do in his report, which is coming right up, is talking about,
is taking over our physical world through agenda 21.
See, now that's, that's actually some pretty good music to close out on that piece.
Yeah.
That's how, that's how I would want the mind control masters to play music.
A little bit of rocking.
That's, that's a little bit like Mad Max Fury Road.
It's a little bit like the guy on the guitar that shoots flames out.
I've also noticed that he has some bumper music that he plays like Alex Jones plays on the show
that like, I have to assume the artists don't know that they're being used.
Oh yeah.
Like as he comes back from break with Moby's extreme ways.
No way.
Sometimes like Moby could not have signed off on this.
Moby definitely did not sign off on this.
I know that he's fine with like selling his music to commercials and stuff like that,
because then he just gives them money to charity.
Yeah.
That's against copyright law, isn't it?
You can't do that.
No, he doesn't.
What were you talking about?
I mean, no, no, no, Moby, Moby can do that.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Alex Jones can't do that without Moby's consent because Alex Jones is making money off of that.
I don't know.
Yeah.
No, that's illegal.
He might have some sort of a deal with like the record label or something.
Yeah.
He may have like a Muzak deal where you can be pissed about that.
I would assume so.
He is anti whatever this bullshit is.
So anyway, Rob do that's like if he played a Morrissey songs.
Yeah.
That that's the only way to support mental illness more than this special report is
play some fucking more fucking more play some moz.
So he goes to commercial.
They come back and they play this long special report by Rob do about agenda 21.
Right.
And it's more nonsense.
It's more completely unfounded bullshit about how the elites want to put you into
inner city ghettos where you'll have a coffin apartment.
It's all the same stuff.
Yes.
Yeah.
Again, if you want to look into agenda 21, I have no interest in covering it on this show,
but you can read up on it and realize why it's all bullshit.
It's a non binding UN suggestion sheet about the age that people should be allowed to drink
with a scary name.
It's a terrible name.
So Batman comes back from break after this special report and he ties it into his theme,
which is nonsense, and then gives a case study about what he's talking about that everyone
should fucking listen to.
All right.
And get scared accordingly.
Excellent.
John Rapp's report back.
So you saw that terrific report by Rob.
That was a terrific.
So now think of this in relation to what I've been talking about.
Completely unrelated.
Now you're going to have people desperate, more desperate and more desperate.
And somebody's going to say, well, you should really see somebody.
You should talk to a professional.
If you are desperate, please talk to a professional.
But his argument, the way that he weaves A to B there is that agenda 21 is going to
make people sad and then people will be like, hey, you should go to a therapist.
So like the sad world that's going to be happening because the elites are going to
force us into inner city ghettos with no choice.
Right.
And all this will lead people to go to therapy and then therapists will.
I don't know.
So but it's dumb.
But so, so are we in full on psychology, psychology,
psychiatrists control the world situation?
Are the elites all psychiatrists?
Or are they just propping up the psychiatry industry as a front for their mind control
program?
Boy, I'll tell you what.
That's something he does.
Boy, I'll tell you what.
That's something he does not wrestle with at all.
Like we talked about this earlier and I speculated a couple of possibilities,
but he doesn't really explain what's the end game for the psychologists.
Well, as, as we get into so many times when you war games, these things,
we all get into trouble.
So it's like, and then what?
I mean, I hate to sound like young GZ, but then what?
And I'm like, where do we go?
Like, what's the point?
What's you have a brain dead population that is unable to work and can't move.
Yeah.
And can't move in some cases.
Yeah.
So now you just have potatoes.
You just got a whole world of potatoes.
And we all know how that worked out for the Irish and the economy.
Then is, uh, is done.
It's potato based.
Is there, is there an image in his head?
I guess is what I'm asking of like psychiatrists delighting in hurting people.
That's a really good question.
Does he think psychiatrists are in on it or does he think that they're just trying?
Like they're just, they're just the Nazis at, uh, at, uh, Auschwitz,
just like thinking they're going to work every day like regular Joe's.
I sincerely don't know.
And I don't think he does either.
I really don't think he knows what his argument is.
Oh man.
So anyway, we should ask Dr. Pies.
We were, oh, you know what?
Next episode.
We're going to give Dr. Pies a call.
I'm going to send him an email.
Oh, yeah.
That'd be fun.
I'm not going to do that.
All right.
Oh, it's not what's happening outside in the world.
That has nothing to do with it.
No, it's something, you know, inside your brain.
Get diagnosed.
In other words, why don't they just come out and say, Hey, get diagnosed.
What do you say?
Join the crowd.
Everybody loves it.
We're all getting diagnosed this week.
This is diagnosis week.
Barack Obama has come out of retirement along with Bill Clinton, a skeletal figure,
and they're all saying along with Hillary Clinton, it takes a village to get diagnosed.
Let's all get diagnosed this week.
This is diagnosis week for mental disorders, the entire population,
because now that we're stuffing you into tiny spaces and making you exceedingly
claustrophobic and taking away all your money and destroying the middle class
and basically, you know, gutting the nation,
it's time to get diagnosed, folks.
It really takes a village to get diagnosed.
Yeah, that's the truth.
It's weird how everything he's saying is correct,
even though he thinks he's saying it sarcastically.
Like you should get diagnosed.
Yeah, yeah.
And it does take a village.
It's a good idea to have a support structure in place.
Yeah, I've also I've also known some people.
And there is National Mental Illness Day.
Yeah, I also like this is an interesting thing that I just realized.
I've known a couple people who have gone to therapists and psychiatrists
and they've been like, you're fine.
Yeah, that does happen.
Yeah, I it's it's not every
psychiatrist that doesn't want to find an issue that they can try and help with.
True.
But there are there are psychiatrists out there who are like,
I don't think medication is appropriate.
I think maybe you should talk to somebody that does exist in the world.
Yeah.
Not everybody is trying to get everyone in on a shell game.
And there are doctors who are like, you have high blood pressure,
but maybe you should just stop eating garbage.
You fix your diet.
Yeah, stop doing that.
Yeah, yeah.
So even taking out, take it out of the mental health.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So anyway, he's about to get to this case study.
And here's what I'd like you to remember.
I am going to try so hard.
This case study is anecdotal.
It's from a book.
Which means it's always the most reliable information.
It's anonymous.
Well, I mean, there's a name given, but it's obviously a student.
Yeah, no.
Which is a good thing.
It's a good thing that if you're going to do case studies,
you got to protect privacy.
Yeah, absolutely.
But also this book was written 26 years ago.
Before he even started his investigation.
Yes, six years before.
Oh boy.
But so like the state of
which is a majority of years before he started.
Think about what pills we have now that weren't discovered back then.
Think about therapies that we've developed that didn't exist 26 years ago.
There's a lot.
So anyway, spanking was still a legitimate therapy 26 years ago.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah, you could get spanked in a school.
Yeah, corporal punishment.
That's a real thing.
Yeah, they even just hit you.
Yeah.
That seems crazy now, right?
Nuts.
That seems bananas.
Yeah, there's a zero tolerance policy for that.
Although when I was in high school, a teacher did hit me.
Oh yeah?
I hit him back.
Nice.
It was weird.
Anyway, that's a story for another day.
You need to talk to Dr. Pies.
You may have some lasting damage.
Are we going to get into a trigger warning for you right here?
Here's a trigger warning.
This case study is stupid.
Takes a village mentality, a global village mentality to get diagnosed.
Good, we got globalism.
Yeah, so mind blowing.
I'm going to try to raise a document up here for myself.
You will not see it, hopefully.
He doesn't want to use technology.
You will not see it, hopefully?
I don't think he understands what's screen,
like what's the Skype connection, what's actually being relayed.
Bless you.
To the video camera.
I'm not sure he knows, so he thinks if he moves something on his screen,
it will play on infowars.com.
And that's not like, I mean, he's an old man.
He's an old man.
I'm not making fun of him.
He's an old man.
I'm not making fun of him.
I just wanted to give context for what he was saying.
Right, but also it's kind of funny.
It's funny.
It's a little funny.
Come on, Batman.
Get your technique.
Where's Alfred?
Alfred does your technology for you.
Come on.
Get that girl in there.
Okay, we're still here.
I'm your basic primitive writer.
Okay.
God, he sounds like he's supposed to.
I want to read you a short passage from Peter Brigham's 1991 book, Toxic Psychiatry.
1991.
This is a revelation.
Okay, I'm going to excerpt this a little bit.
Pseudonym.
Roberta was a college student getting good grades, mostly A's.
When she first became depressed and saw psychiatric help with the recommendation
of her university health service, right?
Talk about agenda 21.
She was 18 at the time, right?
When was agenda 21?
1992.
Strange.
Strange.
You're after this helpful as well.
Talk about agenda...
Well, she's the proto.
She's the anecdotal case by which they invented agenda 21.
I'm fucking amazed that you came up with that.
So fast.
Look at this.
Look at my note there.
What?
Look at my note right there.
There we go.
Book written before agenda 21.
I had that note just in case I forgot.
It was so obvious that this didn't happen.
Yeah, yeah.
But the anecdote might have happened, but his analogy, his assessment of it,
that like talk about agenda 21.
No, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's such bullshit.
Yeah, nonsense.
Trying to just shift facts to whatever conclusion you already have in your mind.
Which he has to get to because he's about to go to bed.
Yeah.
Oh, God, he's so sleepy.
He's so sleepy.
And this show, he's broadcasting this.
I mean, I don't know what time zone he's in, but it has to be like 3pm.
Take a nap, wrap a port.
And well-motivated, very good candidate, blah, blah, blah, etc., etc.
Going through a sophomore year identity crisis about dating men,
succeeding in school planning a future.
Okay.
And there are a lot of stress.
Instead of moral support and insight, her doctor gave her Haldol.
That's an anti-psychotic.
That is a neuroleptic, a major tranquilizer.
Those are all names for that class of drugs.
Over the next four years, get this now.
Listen, six different physicians watched her deteriorate neurologically
without warning her or her family about tardive dyskinesia, motor brain damage,
and without making the diagnosis.
Even when she was overtly twitching in her arms and legs,
instead they switched her from one neuroleptic to another,
including navain, stelazine, and thorazine.
Eventually, a rehabilitation therapist became concerned enough
to send her to a general physician who made the diagnosis of medical drug damage.
By then, she was permanently physically disabled with a loss of 30% of her IQ.
And then Bregan says,
my medical evaluation described her condition, grossly disfigured
and severely disabled human being who can no longer control her body.
She suffers from extreme writhing movements and spathems,
involving the face, neck, head, shoulders, limbs, extremities, torso, and back,
nearly the entire body.
She's had difficulty standing, sitting or lying down,
and the difficulty is worsened as she attempts to carry out voluntary actions.
At one point, she could not prevent her head from banging against nearby furniture.
She could hold a lip to her cup only with great difficulty, etc., etc.
Even her respiratory movements are seriously afflicted
so that her speech comes out in grunts and gasps amidst spathems.
Roberta may improve somewhat after several months off the neuroelectric drugs,
but she will never again have anything remotely resembling a normal life.
That's tragic.
That's really sad.
I mean, that can happen literally anywhere with just about anything.
Sure, but if you also...
I mean, she could have tripped.
Well, I know, but that argument doesn't really help.
It doesn't, no, it doesn't help, but it is one of those things where
she's dealing with such a unique circumstance, such a rare circumstance,
that that anecdotal situation always fucking crushes me.
Yeah, it's very sad.
Because it's always like, hey, we had one guy, this happened, and it is a tragedy.
Yeah.
It really is.
And it's probably, it's about worst case scenario kind of.
Of bad drug reactions, bad...
And that it's tragic that that happens.
It really is.
It's not indicative of the psychiatry as a whole.
No, not even close.
So I was thinking...
There's how many, it's one of those things where it is like,
how many patients per year are killed by doctor error, as opposed to what's going on.
And it's a lot.
A lot of people are killed by doctor error.
A lot of that is like in surgery.
Yeah, or just any number of misdiagnoses or mixed diagnoses.
All of these different possible outcomes.
But you'd still rather go to a fucking doctor than not.
What if it's Dr. Wallach?
If it's Dr. Wallach, I would take my cat to him.
He's a really good veterinarian.
Apparently.
He invented these pills.
They made somebody else's cat super strong.
So also the use of case studies is illustrative of points you want to make,
but it's not necessarily...
It's not really a fair way to make an argument.
Because if you want to pin all of that on the art of psychiatry, you're wrong.
If you want to make the argument, hey, there are some bad doctors, sure.
Yeah.
No one's going to dispute that point.
Or even some good doctors who made mistakes.
My uncle was a psychiatrist.
Did he kill Roberta?
He didn't.
Okay, are we sure?
Yeah, I'm fairly sure.
I don't know how much I want to say about him.
I'll just spell this out.
Okay.
He studied...
You just did a full on Alex Jones right there.
I know.
Where it's like, I'm not sure I want to tell you guys about this.
I'm not sure.
I'm going to tell you guys about that.
But I don't know how much of his business I should put on the streets.
No, I agree.
I don't know how much his...
How much should be public?
I'll keep the public.
I'll do public stuff.
Okay.
With your wiener.
He was, and I think he still is, a psychiatrist.
And he had written a bunch of books about multiple personality disorder, which is...
Which does not exist.
No, but at the time it was seen as a real thing.
All the rage.
Yeah.
It was one of these really like hot diagnoses.
Yeah, yeah.
It's now dissociative...
Personality disorder.
Yeah, there is a...
Or dissociative identity disorder.
There's a much more robust understanding of what it is and what can cause it.
And his whole thing, and he wrote like two or three books about it,
he believed in his clinical opinion that multiple personality disorder is caused by
satanic ritual abuse and the cure is Jesus.
Right?
So he has these books and they're full of case studies.
They're full of case studies with a pseudonym.
And these horrifying stories and then Jesus helping out.
Just like those fucking anti-gay conversion therapies, like that whole bullshit.
Right, but any kind of...
That makes me very angry.
It makes me mad too.
If you knew more about how much of a weirdo my uncle is,
but even matter.
But the point I'm trying to make is that like when you have these case studies, they can sort of
tell the narrative that you want to tell without it actually being really based
in scientific or clinical fact.
And that's the whole short circuit of human beings.
We love the story.
Tell me the story.
I get all caught up in it.
It's got a beginning, it's got a middle, it's got an end.
We got quiet and sad while he was telling that story.
Absolutely.
It's tragic.
I feel for her.
I have empathy for another human being.
Sure.
And so it can warp your perception, but then you go to the word statistics
in the diagnostic manual.
Yeah.
And that's so important.
It's so important.
And that's a very small...
Some people have said they were cured because of anti-gay conversion therapy.
Sure.
Some of them have.
Whether or not they have is they probably haven't, but they've said it.
You know what?
So you can point to those case studies as being, oh, this works.
Well, I think that...
But the large majority are not helped and are only damaged,
only hurt by this bullshit.
So you're just hurting people with that narrative.
It's a narrative that deserves to be told.
I agree, but it is a fucking damaging narrative.
But it's also a narrative that doesn't deal with reality.
It deals with the story you want to tell.
Yeah.
Like the story that my uncle would want to tell is that these people who were...
Journey to the West.
He loves Chinese literature.
I was just thinking of Fival.
There's no cats in America.
So the story that my uncle would want to tell is that these people told him about...
Also, that is fake news.
There are cats in America.
It is fake news.
Fake news.
The Chai comms want to tell you there's no cats over here.
So, but like the idea is you're telling a story that fits the story you've already
decided to tell as opposed to letting the truth dictate where the story goes.
Of course.
And that's unfortunate.
Classic confirmation bias.
And that's what Batman's doing.
Yeah.
Batman loves confirmation bias.
Confirmation bias.
Confirmation bias.
So here's the next clip.
This is where he gets a little bit real with it.
And he warns you that withdrawals are a real thing.
And then he goes the wrong direction.
Do you not suddenly stop taking your medication?
Absolutely not.
Talk with your psychiatrist.
If you are going to quit your medication, please do so responsibly.
And if you tell them that you want to get off things, they will help you.
They will.
They're not going to be like, they're going to give you advice.
And then if you're going to do it, they're going to try and help you do it the safest way possible.
Yeah, you know what it turns out?
Doctors work at your direction.
They like it.
Yeah.
Well, they don't necessarily like it when you direct them.
I'm sure it's kind of frustrating when you have like a direction that you think the therapy
would go best and the patient says, I don't want to do that.
Can you imagine being a doctor and having some parent come up to you and say,
Oh, I don't want my kid to be vaccinated.
Can you imagine?
Can you imagine how frustrated you would be?
But it'd be insane.
It would be the most angering moment.
I get angry now whenever I hear somebody say, I'm not sure about vaccines.
Just that I'm not sure part makes me want to fucking punch them in the face.
I have doubts.
Yeah.
No, no fucking.
Hey, did you do you have polio?
No, then fucking shut up.
Yeah.
Every, every day you don't have polio, you should thank a vaccine.
Thank you vaccines or measles, mumps and rubella.
Yeah.
What day is today?
It's vaccine awareness day.
It's vaccine awareness day.
Every day is vaccine awareness day.
And it's Batman awareness day.
Now, Bregan warns, and I want you to make sure you understand
withdrawing rapidly from any psychiatric drug can be worse than taking the drug.
We're talking about.
Agreed.
Very dangerous and even life-threatening problems.
So this is in no way a recommendation to anybody who may be on one of these drugs to
just get off of it.
Bregan.com, b-r-e-g-g-i-n.com is the website of Peter, Peter Bregan.
He's written a book about withdrawing from psychiatric drugs.
He recommends it be done by a professional who knows what he's doing, etc.
Okay.
So I think you're probably getting the message now in this investigative report on the number
one mind control program at colleges.
Psychiatrist.
And now I want to talk about Jesus.
Super blue fluoride free toothpaste.
My wife read about this.
She was very enthusiastic.
After being sold out for months at infowarslife.com, it's back.
Gums research indicates contribute to the development, can contribute to the development
of heart disease, heart attacks, when bacteria infect your gums, it can enter the bloodstream
and even contribute to blood clots or heart attacks.
God, I love this fucking show.
He goes on for like three minutes about this great toothpaste.
Hey, and you know what?
If you stop using that toothpaste, no negative side effects.
No withdrawal.
You can switch directly to a regular toothpaste.
What was it called?
Super blue.
It's created by Alex Jones's dad.
You know what they do?
They super blue.
They get it turns your teeth blue.
They get toothpaste from Tom's of Maine.
Is that real?
Which they can't.
Alex keeps doing this thing where he's like, we get it from the top organic.
You know, it's up in Maine.
We can't say the name because, you know, we because we're stealing it.
Well, no, because they have like a subcontract or whatever.
Okay.
So they get the toothpaste from Tom's of Maine and then he puts colloidal silver and iodine
in the toothpaste along with along with peppermint oil and tea tree oil.
Oh, but also that sounds way less dangerous than the colloidal silver and the iodine.
Alex would like you to know that sometimes the peppermint is a little too strong for kids.
So they're coming out with the bubblegum flavor.
Oh, yeah.
It's still on the way.
Do you know?
No, it's it's coming.
Bubblegum flavor was very important to me taking medication as a child.
Man, it wasn't for me.
I always thought that fake bubblegum stuff was gross.
Oh, so important.
Did you know?
Did you know in the fifties they actually had like radioactive toothpaste?
I did not know that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Everything everything was radioactive for a while in the fifties because because the nuclear.
Yeah.
Well, the nuclear bomb had just dropped and people are like, oh, look at how amazing
all of these radioactive things are.
So people would actually have glow in the dark teeth.
You would clean your floor with glow in the dark shit because it was radioactive as fuck.
Oh, wow.
They even had these tests where they would they would detonate.
They would detonate a nuclear a nuclear bomb.
Right.
And the tactic they were thinking about is after that when you have that giant cloud,
maybe we should have an army march through that.
So they actually had.
Are you talking about like for optics?
No, no, no for for attacks.
So in super soldiers.
No, no.
Just to hide.
Just to hide in the smoke.
Okay.
So thousands of soldiers wound up having all kinds of radioactive diseases because they
didn't understand that was bad for you.
So people lost their teeth because they did all of this shit.
Now, you know why we don't learn about that?
What was that?
Globalists.
Probably globalist globalist George Soros.
Oh man, I wish I could.
I wish I had my Spotify up.
It's not Imagine Dragons.
Who did that song?
I'm a radioactive.
You know that song?
It's a good song.
I'm not entirely sure which one you're right.
I forget who cares.
Anyway, I think I think now is the time to let that go.
All right.
Batman comes back and no, no, no, no, no, no, no radioactive.
He has this this clip is just about the fear.
The fear.
Yeah.
This is fear mongering.
Not the movie fear.
Starring Marky Mark.
No.
No.
Nor cape fear, no primal fear.
It's just the fear.
He wants you to be scared.
And also he has this awesome role play
that he does with a fake doctor.
Oh, thank God.
That is his role play.
So far has been one confusing.
And toothless.
And toothless.
Yeah.
And hopefully.
Yes.
Yeah.
So many different ways.
It has been toothless.
Yeah.
Okay.
What else on this merry voyage through
insanity created by psychiatry?
You'll see in the article that I wrote about this
up at Infowars and also at No More Fake News
that even drugs like Ritalin can have fantastically
dangerous effects.
Psychotic breaks.
Literally all drugs.
Aggressive violent behavior.
Literally all drugs.
All the drugs.
And to think about this,
this so-called, you know, oh, ADHD.
Everybody's getting it.
Get so gnozed.
Get the drug.
Sure.
The drugs are very, very closely related to
amphetamines.
Do you mean other drugs?
They are amphetamine type drugs.
The boys at Infowars now have it up on the screen.
Some of the effects of Ritalin.
Paranoid delusions.
Paranoid psychosis.
Visual hallucinations.
Auditory hallucinations.
Can surpass LSD in producing bizarre experiences.
That sounds fun.
I wanted to check in here.
Radioactive was a song by The Firm.
The Firm.
There's that super group made up of Paul Rogers
from Bad Company.
Yes.
Guitarist Jimmy Page,
drummer Chris Slade from Manfred Mann's Earth Band.
Okay.
Manfred Mann's Earth Band?
And Uriah Heap.
That's the, no.
Manfred Mann's Earth Band is now my favorite band.
That name is amazing.
They did a blinded by the light revved up like a noose.
I don't want to know.
I don't want to believe that they made music.
I want to just believe it was people called Manfred Mann's.
Earth Band.
Earth Band.
And I just needed to prove that Radioactive was a good song.
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:15,280
All right.
I believed you.
I'm a radioactive.
Okay.
Screen withdrawal.
Started screening.
Aggressiveness insomnia.
Decreased REM sleep.
On and on.
He's just listening side effects.
Yeah.
And I mean, they are real, but they happen in very small.
There have been zero.
I don't know if I've ever seen any drug that had like,
hey, no side effects.
You're cool.
None.
Zero.
Well, placebo.
Perfect.
Placebos work.
By the way, try out super male vitality.
Yeah.
No reason that is right next to the words placebo.
Not sure if that's actually a placebo.
As we've discussed, it's probably just full of details.
As we've discussed, it's probably just full of testosterone.
Yeah.
That's possible.
Or it's full of nonsense.
Hypertension, seizures, convulsions.
Everybody knows who's familiar with amphetamine,
drug, drug.
I really wish.
Smell face.
This is where we need like a Bobadooka list.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The Bobadooka list.
Yeah.
Hanging toe.
Fisherman's elbow.
That if you take them for a certain length of time,
after the initial, wow, wears off like, boy, I've got increased clarity.
This is terrific.
I can study and so on and so on.
He's talking about amphetamines.
Just to give some context, in case I was lost with our laughing and.
Whoa, meth.
Ooh, meth.
Did you never see that?
Evening out occurs, a crash occurs in many people.
They crash.
A speed crash is what they used to call it on the street.
Now the person is in fantastically bad shape.
Huddling in a corner.
So consider a child.
Consider in that situation.
A child.
For college, back to the psychiatrist.
What does the psychiatrist say?
Well, from what you're saying here, it's obvious to me,
that you are really suffering from clinical depression now.
Okay.
Really, doctor?
Yeah.
Really?
Well, I mean, I'm assuming that's related to the drug that you gave me for ADHD.
Of course not.
Is this going to be a letter to penthouse?
No, that idea.
There couldn't be any relationship to the drug for ADHD.
No, this is the emergence of a new condition, clinical depression.
And so I'm going to put you on Zoloft.
Like the xenomorph from AMO.
And now the circus moves into phase two.
The brain destroying, mind destroying circus moves into phase two.
Because now what we're talking about here is the person, the child, the student is in the system.
And I'll give you a potential phase three.
Oh, wait.
So nobody's ever done phase three before.
This is a potential phase three.
He's just making up phase three.
I think he's giving you a, what could happen?
What could happen?
Okay.
But yeah, based on his language, it does sound like it sounds like he's made.
Yeah.
No, there's nobody's ever made it to phase three, but phase three is Super Mario Brothers is real.
I think there's a part of him that is sort of wrestling with internally like,
I don't have any proof of what I'm saying.
So like that, that potential phase three is kind of the little cracks in the armor
showing of like, I'm not really making a good argument.
Anytime, anytime you hear anybody on info wars do that thing where they're like,
consider the person, the child, the college student.
It's like, you only needed to say one of those things.
You're saying all of those things because you ain't have much else to say.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're doing some bullshit filler.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're, you're changing the size of your font to 14 instead of 12.
You're pretending you're me talking about the firm.
Cry antidepressant, up, down, up, down, back to the psychiatrist.
Well, says the psychiatrist.
Up, down, up, down, back to the psychiatrist.
What I'm now seeing actually coming out behind all of this is bipolar.
That's what's going on.
That's me.
Hey.
The up.
The down.
What we used to call manic depression.
You have your ups and you have your downs.
You sure, doctor?
Such a great way of putting my mental illness.
Because it really seems like it is.
I love, I love having my mental illness.
Boy, you know, you got your ups, you got your downs.
You definitely don't have two weeks where you're a fucking lunatic.
Yeah.
That's just, that's just you being crazy.
He's also sort of making the argument that like amphetamines and then Zoloft,
which Zoloft doesn't bring you down or anything like that.
But like he's saying, like you take these antidepressants,
give the ups of the amphetamines, the downs of the antidepressants,
and that's what bipolar is.
Not at all.
Not at all.
Not at all.
Not at all.
Very dumb, uninformed.
Yeah.
It's like he's never talked to anybody who has mental illness.
He's never talked to anybody.
He's never talked to any legitimate psychiatrist.
Okay.
Or psychologist.
That's not true.
He has talked to one person who has mental illness.
Are you talking about the Joker?
I am talking about him.
I am talking about when Batman looks into the mirror, he sees the Joker.
I'm not sure that he's ever really had a conversation with himself.
I'm not sure he's ever had a conversation with anybody else.
He's married.
What?
I found that out.
All right.
I don't know what it means.
Let's meet her.
Yeah, I would love to.
I bet she's on info horse too.
Has she ever written anything for No More Fake News?
I bet she's pissed off that he doesn't put up that picture.
John.
John, stop Skyping with your friends and put up that goddamn picture.
Wait, what is this?
What is this?
That's just an old-
That's the New Jersey mom from the 50s?
I have to assume she's like 70 also, right?
She's gotta be, yeah.
He's up there in age.
She's not banging around with a 20-year-old.
John, please come downstairs.
John, John.
I picked her John Rappaport with a slightly domineering wife because-
John Franklin Rappaport, the third Michael Rappaport Jr.
I'm doing my research.
I'm up here in my attic.
You have been working on this for 20 years now.
You have yet to call Dr. Pies.
You have?
I love my characterization of her as being very analytical in her anger.
I got nothing but respect for her.
She's gotta be a saint to live with this man.
We'll find out.
Listen, I'm the professional here.
Where did you get such an idea?
I got it from watching you.
You must have been reading some crazy stuff somewhere.
We're talking about mental disorders and the medicines used to treat them here.
I'm the pro.
So now we get into valproate and we get into depocote.
These are much heavier drugs with much heavier potential effects.
And the circus goes on.
And as I read you, that excerpt from Toxic Psychiatry about the student named Roberta,
this could very well be the outcome.
And if it's not the outcome,
you've got kids at colleges going all over the place doing all kinds of stuff.
They just let them leave and go anywhere.
Those college kids can just go anywhere.
They don't even keep them there.
Down to the left to the right.
He ends this segment, which is just about the end of the special report.
He does that long fantasy role play with a doctor where he's like,
hey doctor, maybe these drugs that you're giving me are making me feel bad
and they're creating new things.
No, I'm a doctor.
So that's that long role play.
And then he's like, so, you know, these situations could happen.
They just go up and up and have heavier and heavier medications.
And then you heard that case study I read you from that book from 26 years ago.
That's how it works.
That could be the outcome.
But if it's not the outcome, you could be on campus being crazy.
You're not making a point.
He's doing the whole same gateway drug marijuana thing.
He's doing the whole thing.
He wishes that's what he was doing.
He's not even doing that.
He's not even coming close to that.
He's not making a point.
There's nothing there.
No, his point is that literally anything can happen at any time
and you should always be afraid.
I fucking respect Scientologists more than this
because at least they have the balls to just stand on their argument.
No, they don't.
They're wrong.
They've kept it secret for a long, long time.
Not secret about how much they hate psychiatrists.
Oh, yeah.
No, that's true.
That's what I'm saying.
Well, not their whole thing, but the argument against psychiatry.
I think that they might though.
Oh God.
Elron Hubbard wasn't allowed to become a psychiatrist.
And so Scientology was bored and purely out of spite.
Now, and most of it was about how he masturbated too much.
Scientology is bad.
Most of it is about how he masturbated too much.
Scientology is bad,
but you do have to respect a religion
that was not built on anything other than pure spite.
Yeah, sure.
That's badass.
Gotta give him credit for that.
I'm with you, but that doesn't take away
from the fact that Batman isn't making any points.
His whole, if you synthesize his argument,
it is that trigger culture, safe space stuff.
I completely forgot we started with trigger culture.
Right.
There's no way that that has anything to do
with where we ended up.
I told you.
No, that's fucking crazy.
Why did he start with trigger culture?
Because that's where his argument begins with.
Also, there's no such thing as trigger culture.
Nope.
No, that's just you fucking fucked up shit happens.
But if you're a 70 year old man who lives in his attic
and it's all infowars, it does exist.
Because all you read is drudge report and infowars,
and you see this bullshit version of the world.
And you're like, oh, look at these uppity blacks who are trying to,
they're so mad that people want to put on black faces.
It was in character.
Bumps me out whenever, anytime anybody says uppity.
There's no good use for the word uppity.
Unless you're Scatman Carothers.
Or Scatman, John God rest his soul.
Also, Scatman Carothers is dead too.
He is dead.
Yeah.
There's no Scatman.
Well, he died at the end of the shining.
That was a documentary, right?
Be clear about this.
If we get to the point where we can speak to Scatman Carothers.
No, if we get to the point where there are enough donations to this show.
God, we can quit our jobs.
I will legally change my name to Scatman.
All right, I will.
I swear to God, I will hold you to that.
I will hold you to that.
Look, I will never, I never wanted success for this.
More than I do right now.
I will also get a Scat Dan tattoo.
Frankly, I'm really sweetening the pot here.
In all honesty, I'm this close to getting a Scat Dan right now.
All right, so Batman's got to close this out with his sort of synthesis and his conclusion.
Let's see if he does a good job.
See if he really brings it home.
He didn't.
So I think now we need to find out how many people in Congress are on psychiatric drugs
after watching that.
I think that's the next step because...
I don't think that's okay.
After...
I think that's against the law.
Well, but that's related to a clip that they just played that we talked about on
yesterday's episode or last episode.
Okay.
So he's talking about all this crazy bullshit.
It's irrelevant.
Sure, not making any sense.
We are nearing the end of this hour.
The number one mind control program at U.S. colleges is psychiatry.
25% of all college students in the U.S.
What is the number two mind control program?
Or a treated for mental disorder.
This explains...
Is it the school newspaper?
What's the number two?
What is number two?
The bar that doesn't card?
I don't know.
What is it?
It's the RA, man.
He's really trying to hold you down.
The RA is a bitch, man.
Oh, I can't smoke weed in my room now.
Huh?
You've never been cool.
Maybe it's the little bodega where you can use a student charge to get snacks.
Stuff like that.
Maybe it's that.
Maybe that's brain control.
Maybe.
I don't know.
I certainly used a lot of it when I was in college.
I would go to the student bookstore because
I had a card and it was...
That's it!
The bookstore!
I would go to the student...
That's where people learn about new ideas.
That's brain control.
Exactly.
I would go there and I would...
Who puts the books in there?
Who watches the book watchman?
Jesus.
I would go there and that would get like snacks and all this junk food.
And I would charge my student charge card because I knew
they would show up to my parents' account and it would say student bookstore.
Oh!
And they would never question that.
Brain control.
Anyway.
And the triggering thing and the whole thing is safe space and all of that.
It's a combination of I'm a victim so I can just be victimized by anything.
It's a new world.
I've got a new role to play in the grand scheme.
Or and it's the effects of the psychiatric drugs.
Scrambling brain chemistry that make kids do and say the strangest things.
As their kids say the darndest things.
Brain damage.
As they're developing brain damage.
Not kidding around here folks.
It's chemical warfare.
It is sustained year by year generation by generation now.
This works.
The psychiatry holding a kind of virtual monopoly backed up by the federal government.
Yeah.
On mental health.
That's where we're at.
And now it sounds like the Olympics.
Throne over.
Throne over.
Thanks John Rappaport here.
See you next time.
I think he lost it when he was like this needs to be thrown over.
He just couldn't find the right words.
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:08,560
Let's not address it enough.
He ran out of gas.
So that's the special report and boy.
Shucks howdy.
We didn't spend any time really addressing how racist, homophobic, sexist, transphobic.
All of it is.
It's the entire.
Basically his entire argument is anytime people do things that he doesn't think are
appropriate behavior.
And that includes literally everyone but him and other old white men.
Other groups standing up against people oppressing them.
Anything.
Degrading them.
Anything.
Halloween costumes is just short for literally.
Oh wait a second.
These kids don't want to use the bathroom gender that they were born with.
Guess what that is?
Psychiatrists and drugs.
Right.
Oh these kids think homosexuality is okay.
Drugs.
That's the other.
That's the other.
These kids are black.
Do you know where black people came from?
Drugs.
Drugs.
He's a fucking.
Yeah.
He's a monster.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
But the other thing that just on it because that's you know people have differing opinions
a lot of differing opinions and someone who hears this and thinks you know like hey all
this triggering stuff is a bunch of pussies and what have you.
Let's even take a step back.
He didn't make any argument.
No he did not.
He didn't.
He didn't have any bombshell.
That was an hour of him on the air.
Meandering.
He had every opportunity to cite actual sources.
Yeah.
We looked into the sources that he did cite.
And they were wrong.
They didn't say what he was saying.
No.
And the underpinning of his argument is 25% of the population at campuses has a diagnosis.
Which doesn't mean anything and probably isn't true.
Yeah.
And if it's not if it's not literally true it's not accurate because a lot of people
go to doctors just to get Adderall.
At the very least it is a gross mischaracterization of what the problem actually is.
Yes.
At the very least.
Now if you add in all the things we know about him it is most likely a huge shit show
of entitled white male bullshit.
And bigotry.
And bigotry.
And then the other step we had to take.
And I know that because I'm an entitled white male.
We can smell it.
Oh yeah yeah we can sense our own because they're skins white.
But then the other piece of it is the advice he's giving or the assessment that he's giving
is literally dangerous.
Yeah.
You and I are both people who have struggled with mental illness throughout our lives
and I don't want to end this on a sad note.
I think it's a hopeful note to say that quite literally
I would be dead if I had not gone to see a psychiatrist.
That's exactly what I was going to say.
Yeah that's not a down note.
That's fucking amazing.
The sad note that I was going to say is that I have had friends who have killed themselves.
Yes we have.
And a lot of it had to do with them not seeking help the way they needed to.
Yeah.
And that's real.
It is absolutely real.
So when you impugned psychiatry as a whole what you're doing is a disservice to people
who need help.
When you look at it realistically and say hey you know what there is over diagnosis
there's an over prescription.
That's a realistic discussion to have.
But when you see a system that has flaws and you point those out and you search to correct those
that is good.
Yes.
When you say a system has flaws so that means every single part of that is wrong.
You get the government we have now.
Yeah.
And that's why I wanted to cover this.
It seemed a little bit outside of what we normally do but it's just like you're such
a fucking asshole and this is what Alex Jones chooses to put on his show.
Yeah.
So it is still him.
Yeah.
It's not like it wasn't literally him saying these things.
No.
But Alex is.
He was tacitly endorsing these things.
And for two days he was talking about how this is some of the most powerful important
information.
God.
And it's not information it's nothing.
We like one thing that I do like about this that I do I like I find this I find this to
be fun thing.
Yeah.
But occasionally there is something where it's like oh I I think we are fighting this
fucking horrifying monster like Alex Jones is a wackadoo crazy cat.
Yeah.
That guy is fucking evil in a way that is far less fun.
But thankfully it doesn't matter because no one listens to him.
No one listens to him.
But like fucking David goddamn night.
The only platform that fucking John Rappaport has is his Angel Fire page GeoCities bullshit
and then also the fourth hour of Alex Jones sometimes.
And I assume a lot of people turn it off for the fourth hour.
I would hope so.
But if they don't I mean like this is the kind of bullshit that is being spouted that is
irresponsible and very dangerous.
It's literally dangerous.
It's not irresponsible.
It's an active attack.
It really is.
But the attack is irresponsible.
Yeah.
And it's irresponsible for anyone to broadcast that and I apologize that we just did.
But we did with commentary so I think it's okay.
Yeah I look anytime somebody broadcasts 50 Shades of Gray the movie.
Irresponsible.
Irresponsible as long as we're making fun of it though.
Great.
Pretty great.
Fantastic.
So guys the bottom line is if you need help go talk to somebody.
Please do.
If you don't feel the diagnosis is accurate talk to the doctor about that.
You can have a conversation about it.
No one is going to force you down some weird rabbit hole.
If you don't want to take a pill don't take it.
I mean like that's the truth.
You have your own agency.
You are a person.
And with the proliferation of the internet being what it is there's tons of information
you can find out about any pill that someone wants to diagnose or prescribe for you.
And you can.
Yeah.
You can look it up and decide for yourself if it's a path you want to go down.
But.
And it's also you shouldn't diagnose yourself.
No.
You can come in you can go into a conversation with somebody thinking that you have a basic
understanding of what's going on with you.
But it should be a conversation.
Yeah.
Not a dominance.
It's not a dominant thing from one side or the other.
Find a psychiatrist who wants to work with you.
And not tell you what to do.
And also don't tell the psychiatrist what to do.
And that's that's the bottom line.
If you're uncomfortable with your psychiatrist find another one.
Yeah.
There are tons.
I've bailed on a couple.
Many.
Yeah.
Many in my life.
So anyway but there's at least four.
And one of them is named Dr. Pies.
Maybe give him a call.
He seems like a cool dude.
He seems like a cool dude.
But anyway.
Knows his shit.
The most.
He's the emeritus editor of blank.
Yeah.
Something.
Yada yada yada.
Yeah.
But the most important thing is if you are feeling bad there is help that can be found
and please look into it.
And talk to somebody.
Yeah.
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