Knowledge Fight - #195: August 17, 2018

Episode Date: August 20, 2018

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the August 17, 2018 episode of The Alex Jones Show. Alex is in a weird place with his being kicked off so many social media platforms, and in response, it appears tha...t he's beginning to show little signs of his old self coming back. Unfortunately, he's also showing signs of his present self getting worse, and possibly stupider.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello, Alex, I'm a first-time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. Workable dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed, we are. Dan?
Starting point is 00:00:16 Dan? Hey. What's the farthest you've traveled at one point in one period? Like, in one jump? Like, have you ever flown 10 hours straight? Yeah. Okay, let's move on then. No, I think I flew...
Starting point is 00:00:28 I can't remember where we flew out of, might have been New York to Paris. Really? Let's not play the farthest I've flown. Oh, that's a long flight. Where is it? I don't know distance as well. It's not short. I don't know exactly how long it was, but yeah, we had a layover in Paris and then went
Starting point is 00:00:42 on to somewhere in Greece. Oh, okay. Landed somewhere in Greece. And then we took a little biplane, like a propeller plane, that's, you should never do that. That's so scary. That sounds amazing. It's so scary.
Starting point is 00:00:54 I would rather fly on a biplane than Southwest any fucking day of the year. It doesn't feel right to be in a propeller plane. I know. It feels like you're spitting in God's eye. I get it. Yeah, it's rude. Is that your Yelp review of all biplanes? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Rude. Category please. Rude, sir. Absolutely. I'm sure you're bringing this up because you just got back from your weekend in Maine. Yeah. I just wanted to give a quick disclaimer. I'm off a lot of travel and...
Starting point is 00:01:23 Straight from the airport. Oh boy. Oh yeah. I was off watching the first two hours of SummerSlam, so we're both in a weird place. It's weird when you're traveling and flying where it's like you can get day drunk and then you go back in time because of the time zones and all of a sudden you're like, ooh, it is only six o'clock and I am hungover. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:01:43 That's weird. That's a weird feeling. I think a lot of people are experiencing that with the Aaron Waters show here in Chicago this weekend. A lot of army planes flying overhead whilst people drink. Hey, isn't that great that we have a giant massive military industrial complex advertisement on the weekend? That's nice.
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Starting point is 00:02:21 do so by going to our website, KnowledgeFight.com, clicking that support the show button, and then your Policy Wonk. It'll be great. You can also legally change your name to Simon on that website, right? It's true. Like if you click support the show, you can donate or you can change your name to Simon. We have a legal zoom type thing, but it only is for changing your name to Simon. Very specific legal zoom.
Starting point is 00:02:41 We have a coupon and it's Simon. Yep. The code. The code is... Type in Simon as your code. So Jordan, today I want to give you a little teaser. I've been back in the past in 2009 and I have gotten to the day of the Tea Party. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:02:59 But... We're not going to cover it today. You son of a bitch. I hate you. But that is an assurance for you and our listeners that the next episode will get us there finally. So there's that. All right. But I thought today on this Monday episode, I think I thought one of the things that would
Starting point is 00:03:15 be good is like, I think at least once a week, we should check in in the present day and see what's going on. Yeah. Just tip our little... Like take a little peek behind the curtain and see what's up. And so today we're going to be going over the August 17th, 2018 episode. All right. And man, my mind was blown.
Starting point is 00:03:35 This is... Wait, what? From a present day? Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's do this. There's a number of things that are going to happen.
Starting point is 00:03:43 I'm going to be on this show that, well... Did Rain Bro Snatch take over and host for the rest of the... She's not in play. Not in play. No. Okay. There's a lot of predictions that we've made about like what's going to happen and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:03:58 I think a number of our predictions are accurate, but something is going on that no one could have predicted and I don't think anybody except you and I would even have noticed. So we, I believe, are going to share some insight about what's happening to present day Alex Jones that you will not be able to get anywhere else. The first thing is that this commercial plays... Of course it has to do with money. Yep. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Yep. There's some money issues. Of course. So this commercial plays before each chunk. I got these in chunks, like the hour chunks of the episode. Is it a podcast? Yes. So I got it in the three chunks, but it's just a recording of the stream.
Starting point is 00:04:42 You know, it's just a recording of the broadcast and each one starts with this. This hour by Frederick Remington, fully cooked, ready to eat bacon, exclusive, no refrigeration, 10 year extended shelf life bacon, the thickest media cynical bacon in the industry at fullycookbacon.com. Holy shit, it's been fullycookbacon.com. Yes. Yes. Order me. Order me fullycookbacon.com.
Starting point is 00:05:03 10 year shelf life bacon. I want it to sizzle when it comes to my door. That's pretty wild. God, we're returning to the Diamond Gusset days. That's what I'm like in now. He's got some ads that were very much not there before or have not been in the like last years that we've been listening to. I had listened to the show and it would all be Alex Jones related commercials, all be
Starting point is 00:05:27 his products. Now we've got fucking fullycookbacon.com. So now we get to the beginning of the actual show. He plays a long special report from Paul Joseph Watson, probably like a good four minute thing. I'm like, that is too long for Paul. Well it is about the merits of eating cured bacon as opposed to cooking it yourself. It's not. And actually where I decided to fast forward through it and I listened to it is like, you
Starting point is 00:05:52 know, they're trying to destroy Western civilization and they're going to. All right. All right. I'm out of here. You've done your job. Let's move on. I'm going to get in to Alex starting off the show and I think that there's something very familiar here, but at the same time I think there's something else that Merritt's mentioning.
Starting point is 00:06:15 It's Friday, August 17th, 2018. This is the second time within the first eight minutes of the show that he's played the final countdown. There's only 81 days left until most important elections in the US history. We are the tip of the spear attempting to alert the American people in the world to the threat of globalism and the all out assault on Western civilization and America. Whatever you do, realize the globalists have made a miscalculation and are committed to shut down this transmission with every form of assault you can imagine because they believe
Starting point is 00:06:50 you're stupid and won't notice what's happening. So they can bring in the draconian Chinese communist style censorship in America, but we are here exposing it. They are scared of this information because it is the answer to their corruption. Again, thank you so much for joining us on this Friday Global Broadcast. So the stuff about him being like we're the most scary and they hate us because we're the ones who can bring them down, very familiar. If you notice that the beginning there, he's saying that the midterms are the most important
Starting point is 00:07:19 elections in US history, which is exactly what he said about the 2016 election. It's not something that he said about previous elections. And the reason that I'm bringing this up is because we take a glimpse now into Alex Jones and it's really interesting to see him be what I describe as a political hack. You know what I mean? Because that's what sensationalist people do all the time. We heard that over and over again from people on the center right and center left. Through the 2008 election, even the 2004 election, you'd hear that from them, this is the most
Starting point is 00:07:50 important election of all time because they're trying to juice up the base. They're trying to get people more excited and make sure the turnout is good. And now Alex is doing the exact same thing, which I think is conduct unbecoming of him. Like I know that I'm holding him to a standard that doesn't exist, but there's a mythical ideal that Alex thinks that he embodies that is above the rigamarole and the partisan politics. And he's not. He's just finally found his team. Now in his defense though, for his world, this is not hyperbole.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Like what he is, because what's really going on in the midterms now is will Trump be impeached? Right. Like that's the real situation there. I don't know. The answer is no. I don't think it's that important. I mean, the midterms are important. You all should go vote.
Starting point is 00:08:38 But I don't think that the Democrats getting a slim majority in something is necessarily going to lead to impeachment. It should. It won't because they're a bunch of fucking cowards. And I don't think that Republicans retaining it while I would hope that's not the case. I don't think that that's going to lead to running a muck and signing all sorts of immoral legislation. I disagree.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Any more than it already is. Right. Well, that's a better way of putting it. And it's not like they're going to not still try. Right. You know, it's still going to be like, well now, you know, push. I don't know. I think it's incredibly important as I think all elections are fairly important.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Yeah. But I would say so. I am not. I'm not ready to be like if the Democrats lose this, it's the end of the world because that's sensational. I would say in all honesty, the 2000 election was probably the most important election in history. It's set.
Starting point is 00:09:32 It's set. It's set the ball rolling in a really bad path. That's for damn sure. Yeah. And how is George W. Bush still alive? Like shouldn't we have we shouldn't he be dead? He's a decent painter, man. But he's like he lied and got millions of people killed on a lie.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yeah, but those paintings. But on a lie, you can't just lie and get millions of people killed and that faces no consequences for it. Turns out you can. It turns out you can. He's a charming old man who paints. Let's kill him anyway. No, because that's all he's ever been.
Starting point is 00:09:59 You forget. Yeah. Well, at least let's kill Dick Cheney. That seems fair. And probably Dennis Hester. Is he still allowed to live? I think he's alive. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:10:08 I don't know. Did Trump pardon him? No, that would be that would be a bridge too far. I think it's just like, look, I'm going to push the boundaries. I'm going to see how crazy I can get. How about all child molesters are free now? Epstein. I'm going to go on.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Dude, if he pardoned Jeffrey Epstein, imagine what that would be. Alex's narrative. Fucking yes. It'd be a disaster. I'd love it. I mean, not on moral reasons. No, it'd be a very undignified thing to do. So in this next clip, I think we see another thing that Alex is like he is fully embodying
Starting point is 00:10:42 a partisan hack in much more than like in more much clearer terms than he was even doing a couple months ago, I think the left, as I've told you for 20 plus years is brainwashed to hate America and is trained by the high schools, the colleges, the mainline churches, the culture, that America is the ultimate evil in the world because the globalist want a one world planetary government that controls America and other Western nations to enforce their planetary plan of absolute and complete domination. Sure. So the part that I'm referring to there is he starts out by saying, I've been telling
Starting point is 00:11:25 you for 20 years that the left is brainwashed when dude, your entire platform for years was that the left and the right are the same, that they're equally bad and they are the same thing. Right. He's not saying that anymore, because as we talk about a lot, the right isn't the right anymore. Uh-uh. What is now like the Republicans and the GOP is fringe crazies for the most part.
Starting point is 00:11:50 The right is a disease now, it is not something that is like a political party, it's some sort of virus. Well, it's still a political party in some formal ways, but the political party isn't what the like the GOP of 20 years ago was. Right. Absolutely not. It's something that is become beholden to fucking white nationalism and. Entirely.
Starting point is 00:12:13 And cruelty. Just more. Right nationalism and cruelty. Yeah. Yeah. It's not a political party. It's a exploitation machine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:21 George H.W. Bush raised taxes. Do you remember that? I do. Do you remember what it like Reagan? Mm-hmm. Raised taxes. Yeah. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Do you remember when Republicans were like, maybe we should govern the country? Instead of maybe we should strip mine it and make sure that poor people die in the streets. It's like maybe this could go bad. Which is not to say that Reagan did not do that. Right. We'll get to that in a little bit. Yeah. Alex actually has a really correct assessment of Reagan in a little bit.
Starting point is 00:12:48 What? Yeah, it's weird. That's boggling. Um, so Alex is in trouble right now. Obviously. He's losing everything around him. He's being sued by multiple people. He's being talked about more than ever.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Yeah. And I think that a lot of people are talking about him irresponsibly. Of course. But there are a lot of people who aren't. And there's a lot of things that Alex has said in the past that's being brought up. And he doesn't like that because the things he said in the past were terrible. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:19 And so he's creating a version in his head of what's happening to him. And it's really interesting. Like there has to be a part of him that's like, no, you can't bring that up. That was when no one was listening. How dare you? That doesn't count. I thought I was talking into a CB for truckers, man. Come on.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Come on. That's on you guys. Yeah. Look, I was drunk. I was blacked out since I was nine. Yeah. So here he gets into what he perceives to be what's happening in the world. And he's not, not correct on any account.
Starting point is 00:13:48 They have decided to take me building up as this monster and then use me as the first domino to fall to eradicate free speech in the West. That is all confirmed now. Yeah. Law firms in DC have gone and looked at the statements by Democrats in Congress, their own secret reports that have concurred. Secret reports. By next year, they plan to basically end the First Amendment in America.
Starting point is 00:14:07 They're going to nuke it. How? They're going to nuke it. This doesn't work like this. No, it works like that. You know what? If Obama was trying to get Alex kicked off Facebook, I would be on Alex's side. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:20 Yeah. Like if it really was the government doing something like this, I would be on his side. Right, right, right. If, if, if like, let's say the president tweeted some sort of support for a private corporation forcing people to do things at the government's behest, that would be tyranny. There's no way that anyone would accept that kind of behavior from the government. That's anti-American to the core. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:14:47 It's crazy how. That would be unacceptable. It would be unacceptable. So, and I would even say this, that if you were able to produce evidence that the, like, YouTube and Facebook and Mailkeamp, like if you could produce evidence for me that all of them did get together and say, hey, let's kick Alex off at the same time. I'm not sure I'm going to side with Alex, but it'll be a different conversation. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:15:11 I believe that they are working in concert. Like we've talked about over and over again. It seems very clear that one jumped and they are all were like, we can now have cover to do this. Yeah. They were all a bunch of cowards and then one of them was like, eh, fuck it. And then. We'll share the heat on this and we'll all get through it.
Starting point is 00:15:26 But not like in some way that they coordinated and had that plan. Right. But if you could produce that, then, then I would have the exact same conversation that I'm already willing to have and that is that these companies suck. Yeah. It's still not a suppression of his free speech because it's not the government. If they did, if they got together, like if there was a back room deal amongst the CEOs of all of those corporations and they all agreed on something, that's where we get into like
Starting point is 00:15:52 torches and pitchfork territory because that is tremendous overreach of a power that can't be allowed to continue. Yeah. Or at least you need to petition the government to like really get into breaking them up. Yeah. Absolutely. And then information trust in the same way that all of the railroads orchestrating prices in the 1910s was a trust.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Again, without us getting too deeply down this road, I still don't think that there's a monopoly of access on the internet or anything like that. But if they all got together in a back room, that's a whole different conversation there. It would, like we got to investigate that. Absolutely. At least. Yeah. We got to do an investigation on that.
Starting point is 00:16:34 At least ask some questions. Oh, also, hey, Bill Maher, this is so fun. What happened? Bill Maher came out and said like Alex Jones should be able to speak and have like, he was against Alex getting kicked off all this stuff. Oh, no, no, no. He's still allowed to speak. No, but it's super crazy because Alex spends so much of his time talking about how Bill
Starting point is 00:16:51 Maher sucks and he's the voice of the left. Yeah. He's like Bill Maher's out there saying that there's human should die also. There's less traffic. He speaks for the left. Now Bill Maher's coming out and being like Alex Jones shouldn't have been kicked off stuff. What do you do with that, Alex? Ignore it.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Nothing. Pretend it didn't happen. Exactly. I have not heard him say anything about that. Surprise. But I, like I said, I took this from the podcast, but I did find the episode on YouTube also. 29 views. Suck it.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Two of them were. Two of them were. Two of them were yours. Yes. Of course. Of course. So that's my, it's my roundup of stuff. That's fewer views than a five minute clip that I did six years ago has.
Starting point is 00:17:32 So there you go. I think, I think we have some ideas about what should be done with these, these websites. Burn to the ground. It's sort of, you know, it's a little bit of a middle thing for me. Right. There's a, there's a complexity to it. And I don't know. I never expected Alex to say something like this though.
Starting point is 00:17:53 We must stop this now by Congress not having any control over the internet. They have removed net neutrality. Oh my God. Obama calls it net neutrality, but what that was was bringing in regulations so these companies could censor whoever they wanted to have liability protection. Oh my God, you're so fucking stupid. But they didn't put anything in its place. So then it became even more of a free for all.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Oh my God, you're so fucking stupid. At the end there, when he's saying free for all, he was struggling so hard not to advocate for regulation. Exactly. He's like, they got rid of the regulations that I didn't want, but they didn't replace them with regulations I did want. It's crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:39 And then I think at the beginning there, he's really tipping his hand in a very weird way that the Congress should control the internet. Yeah. Weird. So fucking stupid. So fucking stupid. It's bizarre. It's, it's, it's bafflingly confusing.
Starting point is 00:18:53 It's exactly what I was in. I was in New Hampshire and I've heard, I heard like four different people say, Hey, you know, we don't have any sales tax here. And then two sentences later they were like, I'm telling you, man, our roads are garbage. And I was like, you don't get it. It's one to one. That's how it works. Oh, we don't have any sales tax, but our income tax is through the roof.
Starting point is 00:19:15 What are you guys fucking doing? Yeah. So, um, I don't know. He's kind of, he's kind of in a weird place, but it's nothing new for us or anything really interesting to hear him be stupid or advocate for something that doesn't make sense. But it is special to hear something like this. Put your mic down. Let's talk tough.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Let's talk comfort. Let's talk about down home value made in the USA blue jeans like you wore as a kid. Remember, there's a place down in Tennessee where they make blue diamond gusset jeans. They so pride in every stage. Guarantee you love the way that you feel. It's more down. Blue diamond gusset in the crotch where you need most. Blue diamond gusset's got it.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Others don't want good old fashioned comfort. Get diamond gusset jeans. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Diamond gusset is back. It's back. So here is this. First of all, Jordan, it's so great to hear those songs again.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Also, there's another diamond gusset commercial that comes on. And it's the president of diamond gusset. And his name is David Hall. But the way he talks because there's a little bit of a twang. It sounds like he's like, hi, I'm David Hogg. What? Diamond gusset is from a guy named David Hogg. What is going on here?
Starting point is 00:20:39 So does that mean that while we were listening to the YouTube broadcasts, if you were listening on the radio, you would have still heard GCN commercials. Like how CBS has local affiliate commercials where if you're watching on CBS Chicago or whatever, you'll hear local Chicago commercials. If you're watching in LA, you'll hear that stuff. I think that might be the case. I don't think so. I'm not entirely sure.
Starting point is 00:21:07 But it's possible. I think that more likely he's had to revert. Yeah. That's what I'm thinking. Although your theory is fairly decent. I don't know why they would have two streams. That's not nice. I don't know why they would have two streams though.
Starting point is 00:21:24 What do you mean? Like where I got this from is one of the only places that that audio comes from. Right. But if he's not recording it to be released on YouTube now. So now he's primary. It is released on YouTube, but that's not his primary audience. No. So if he's not directly streaming to get to the millions, then he's trying to get as
Starting point is 00:21:51 much GCN funding as he can. Probably. So if he amplifies the amount of airtime that the GCN commercials would receive, then I assume he gets a larger cut maybe? Perhaps. It's an interesting question to ask though because there is a decent chance that if you watch the YouTube stream, there wasn't a YouTube stream, but the video that's up on YouTube, that might not have diamond gusset commercials.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Yeah. So yeah, you might be right that this is just what, maybe there's nothing to it. That's a bummer. You had a conspiracy theory and then all of a sudden I come back with how the biz works, Dan. I'm certain on any radio affiliate that he was on, he wasn't getting to play all his commercials during the commercial. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:22:39 No. No, but. Because there's still local stations that have to have their own affiliate commercials as well. Oh well. Blue diamond gusset jeans. They might fit. They might not.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Anyway, it's still good to hear those commercials. It's nice. Wonderful. I do think even though it's not just the commercials that make me feel very weird about this episode. That is only one piece of it and I think it fed into a little bit. But there's some other stuff you'll see in a minute. But in this next clip, Alex Jones decries the state of education in America. Oh, those motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:23:20 But now they've come out of the closet. The America haters. If you go to the universities or you've been brought up in the last 30-40-50 years in this country, most schools, most government institutions teach America hating, Christian hating, capitalism hating. All of which should be. They give you a false history. You don't learn about the Trojan War.
Starting point is 00:23:43 You don't learn about ancient China or you don't learn about revolutionary war. You learn about America being racist. You learn about America being sexist. There's a deeper problem. And that is that the Trojan War didn't happen. They don't teach the Trojan War. That wasn't a real war. Like Heinrich Schleeman found the city of Troy and what have you.
Starting point is 00:24:08 And there is Troy was, there was a destruction that happened there. But it wasn't nearly the city. It wasn't Homer. No. The Trojan War is specifically just an allegory to talk about the rage of Achilles. That is really all that is. And to get some more mythology going and shit like that. That war did not happen.
Starting point is 00:24:30 So are you sure? If Alex is saying that people should teach classics, sure. But I don't think that's what he's talking about. No. Why is it that the schools are now pointing out how racist and sexist America is when they could be teaching fictional history? Well, he even says that they're teaching fiction. I know, but he wants them to teach a different fictional history.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Why don't they teach the real fictional history? Why don't they talk about how in World War Two they had to fight Nazi zombies? Sure. Why don't they talk about the Ark of the Covenant that Indy found? Yikes. Why don't they talk about Jason 10? He was in space. I bet he even has a war view of the fake version of the Trojan War.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Because I bet he just gets that from movies. Oh, of course. I'd love to talk to him about it sometime. I think all he knows is that Brad Pitt was pissed. Totally. He was mad. Sing Muse of the Rage of Achilles. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:25:25 And how beautiful his hair is. You know, it's real fun about that story. We really get down to it. Yeah. The only reason that Achilles decided not to fight is because he had, like, conquered a bunch of people and had stolen some women. And then the king came in and took the woman he had enslaved. He was like, fuck this.
Starting point is 00:25:45 I don't get to rape this woman anymore. I'm out. I mean, look, I am against all the elements. I'm against all the elements of this, but that is a reasonable position to take. Like, at the end of the day, if that's, you have to think of it as of their time. Sure. Much like Philip K. Day. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Fair enough. I mean, so on this episode, I would say a large portion of it is dedicated to Alex being really mad about Cuomo coming out and saying America was never great and we won't be great unless we deal with systemic problems of sexism and stereotypes and stuff like that. He was a stupid, poorly worded comment. I think Cynthia Nixon had the best response to it. It was like, you have just tried to sound like a, you tried to sound like what you think progressive sound like and you failed miserably.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Yeah. Which I think that is a great, like boom in your face. That's it. It's amazing when you see these politicians who haven't had to run for their office for like four or five elections, all of a sudden, like, oh, I'll just, I'll just, you know, dust off the old skills. I won an election a while back. Hey, everybody, you guys feel like America should suck a dick all the time, right?
Starting point is 00:27:01 Progressive. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm alone. In the wrestling world, that's what's called ring rust. He is sloppy. Yeah. Not good.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And if you actually listen to that clip, what's really interesting is he says these comments and the audience is like, whoa, they are not cheering him on. I think there's like a what kind of response to it. But later Alex will present it as everyone's like, yeah, like they love it. Like, that's not what that tape is. But he struggles with this, this idea really superficially. And here's the beginning of that. Well, I think the worst part is this.
Starting point is 00:27:37 You could say America wasn't great if you had a chip on your shoulder and a twisted view. I didn't understand the real complexities. You could say if you were ignorant that America was never great. I don't agree with that. It's obviously stupid and doesn't know history. Obviously America up all the foreign historians, Japanese, French, German, Russian, Mexican, Chilean. They all said, just incredible.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Romantic background, the buildings, the construction, the invention. Nobody could build a Panama Canal. Two countries failed. We built it and gave it to the Chicoms. We go in, fight countries, turn them back over to them. Nobody else does that. But you could sit there and argue, OK, we were never great if you're ignorant. So did you, you were talking over it a tiny bit, but did you hear him say like, we go in,
Starting point is 00:28:18 we fight all these wars, and then we give the countries back to people. No one does that. Yeah. Alex, most of your career is based on complaining about foreign wars. Yeah, but we give them back. Your favorite politician is only relevant because of his anti-interventionist and pro-weed stances, despite the fact that he's a flaming racist and has been for decades. But like, that's his whole thing is anti-interventionism.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Yeah. Alex hates foreign wars, and now the idea, and even just a couple years ago, he would be complaining about how we've gone into all these countries and we're still there. Yeah. But now he's like, America is so great and our history is so wonderful because we go and solve problems elsewhere and then give the country back. No one does that. The lay in historians agree that America is great.
Starting point is 00:28:59 How can you disagree? He's invalidating everything he stands for. I know. It's wild. It's nonsensical. He doesn't have to do this. There's no reason. I don't know what point he's trying to make other than he thinks Cuomo's stupid, which
Starting point is 00:29:12 is fine. You could make that argument a different way. Yeah. You don't have to do this. You could just say it. Sure. Or you could just boo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Yeah. I think my reaction to that video is just like, eh. Come on, man. It's one of those things that I think Alex doesn't have much he wants to talk about and he thinks he can tee off on this. But I think he's in the weeds, man, like in terms of what he's trying to respond to with this. His versions of why America is great are that one, the war thing, which is against his principles.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Right. Then we built Panama Canal. Hooray. We didn't do that alone. A lot of people died. Two countries tried to do it and then we did it. Yeah. By ourselves.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Of course. And then also, he's like, then they gave it to the Chai Cops. That's not at all true. And then like what? Okay. So we have buildings. Other people have buildings. I think there's some other countries that have much more gorgeous buildings, much more
Starting point is 00:30:05 impressive buildings. Don't you know how amazing the American buildings are they've stood for centuries as we all know the greatest buildings of history have lasted for thousands of years. Oh, no, no, no. You're thinking of Europe. You're thinking of. Oh, no. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Pyramids. Where are the American pyramids? Right. Right. The South American Central American pyramids. Well, that wasn't us. All right. But they were Americans in spirit.
Starting point is 00:30:30 All the Chilean historians agree. Absolutely. And then his other version is inventions. And sure, we've invented some stuff. But when you look at the history of inventions, America is not in the top five. No, I'm going to go with China. China. India are like way up there in terms of inventions that embarrass us.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Look, the Chinese invented whiskey. That's all you need to know. They invented everything. Pretty much everything. Everything. Yeah. So that falls flat. Not good.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I think what my response to that would be like fair point about Cuomo, but then boo on everything else you said, you're just talking shit. This is nonsense. And that's not even getting into the nuance of like the parts of American history that are terrible. You know, we have not been a good country for a lot of. Well, one thing we didn't invent slavery. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:31:21 See, we didn't invent that. That was the Muslims. That was definitely didn't exist before 500 AD, which is that's what Alex would say. It was the Muslims. So in this episode, I'll say that one thing I do enjoy is that Alex says beta cook about three times. All right. I like that.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Can we get, can we get a super cut? No, I didn't. The times he says them aren't really like worth it for a clip, but he does talk about betas here a little bit, which is nice. The land of the beta male, Brian Stelter's God, but the land of freedom, the land of success, the land of alpha males, Impa Wars is number one. We are proud to be rebels. We're proud to be hunted.
Starting point is 00:32:03 We're proud to be attacked. I'm honored to be in the crosshairs. I swore before God that I would stand against the globalists and as long as God gives me strength and air in my lungs and my big red heart full of light, I'll march on forward stumbling sometimes but always with grim determination, climbing the hill, always getting stronger even as I get weaker, even as I prepare to go into our final launch phase and the enemy is sharpening their knives. I enter the arena with love in my heart and light in my eyes.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Please support us. We'll be right back. That wasn't bad. It is what it is. The ad pivot. I find that far more refreshing. That was a genuine like, please support us. Not like, please.
Starting point is 00:32:45 And we got specials coming up. That was like, we believe in you. Well, there's one thing. There's another trend that I'm seeing here on this episode and that is that I don't think he's in control of commercial breaks anymore. That's not the best example of it. I think we have a better one coming up later. But he on this episode that I listened to was caught off guard by breaks at least six
Starting point is 00:33:05 times really cut off in the middle of sentences by the break. Yeah. To the point where it's like, you have to be working on a different clock than you're usually working on. Yeah. At least that's my presumption. It doesn't make sense because it's not like he's so full of passion that he's missing breaks.
Starting point is 00:33:21 No. Or anything like that. He's rusty. No. He's rusty on the radio. No. It's that he's not in control anymore. Genesis communications network is now in control.
Starting point is 00:33:30 I believe that he's seated that sort of thing back to them. Whereas he was in control of it before. That's my working theory. Yeah. I'm not 100% sure on it, but it's so glaring the way he ends up like not because he would have, you saw the build up going on. Oh yeah. I crawl and I grow stronger even though I'm getting weaker.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Yeah. That's him leading up to an ad pivot. Yeah. And he gets caught off guard by the break to the point where all he can say is please support us, which you think sounds sincere. I think sounds like, fuck, I got a second left. That's what I think. And he can't skip a break anymore.
Starting point is 00:34:04 No, he can't. So I believe that he's lost some control of his own show. That's my working theory. God, he's falling apart. And I think the diamond gusset thing is a nice thing for us to see here in this, in that I think that we are seeing somewhat of a unwilling reversion to the past. Yeah. So he's like, this is on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Yeah. So he's just releasing the live radio cut. Yeah. Okay. You'd think that he would have figured out that you can edit your own ads into a podcast. You would think that. And that is actually part of my consideration of why I wonder about the ads. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:48 Yeah. Like that's part of why I'm, I don't know. I don't know what to think about that. Interesting. Yeah. So in this next clip, Alex says something that I would say is like demonstrably false. No, it's true. I don't think it's true, but it's one of those things you probably just shouldn't say on
Starting point is 00:35:06 air, I think. All right. Let me take some time out here to just explain something to listeners who've been listening a long time. I tend to repeat a lot of things, even though I have hundreds of riveting videos and articles that are all incredibly important. And if I was just trying to entertain people, I could make the show a lot more entertaining. In fact, all of one day a week, call it entertainment news.
Starting point is 00:35:27 And by that, it'll be real news. But the stuff that's I think most interesting, like people shooting home intruders and a guy trying to ask the tech people getting beat up by vigilantes and, you know, just every five minutes, some riveting, incredible stuff, I could do that all day. Is that that's entertainment news? Is that entertainment news? No, I think extra is entertainment news. I think Mark McGrath talking about people's clothes.
Starting point is 00:35:55 That's entertainment news. I don't think someone's shooting a home intruder. Oh, that's riveting stuff. What? Yeah. That's a psychopath. That's a crazy, crazy person. That's somebody who's just like, Hey, let's play some ISIS beheading videos and do wacky
Starting point is 00:36:10 sound effects over it. That's like, it's like that. That would be entertaining though. It's like someone saying that at a party. Like that's what I'm feeling from Alex is the guy who's like, let's watch a beheading video. Go fuck, get out of that party. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Yeah. Wow. But then the other part that I think is really fun is like Alex being like, if I wanted to make this show entertaining, I could. All right, buddy. Good luck. Cool. Go for it.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I love that. You know what? I think we would all like that. My goal is not to entertain. Also not to inform. I don't know what I'm doing. Trojan War was real. Go to bed.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Go to bed. So I like that that's become our unofficial catchphrase now. I like it. I enjoy it. So in this next clip, Alex gets to a big, a big narrative that he has throughout this episode. It's a little bit troubling in as much as that it is based on a real story. Alex has a terrible job covering it.
Starting point is 00:37:03 And I will do my best to pick up the pieces after he's done with this. But just like the illegal alien that shot Kate Stineley in the back and a virtue signal to San Francisco. I remember a lot of shooting her in the back. She's allowed to die on her father's arms. Just real quick in case people hadn't, haven't heard the episode where we talked about that. The guy's gun misfired or ricocheted off the ground and shot her. And he was not charged with murder because it was an accident.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Yeah. Once again, the issue was the gun, not the person. And the guns are bad. And the issue for Alex is that he was Mexican. Exactly. And she was a white person. If it was a white guy, he would go in detail with the defense of him. No, he wouldn't talk about it.
Starting point is 00:37:42 He wouldn't talk about it? I think he probably wouldn't talk about it. He'd probably leave it alone. He's only trying to score points in fear of immigrants. That's true. That's all he's doing. That's true. You go free.
Starting point is 00:37:52 They versus signal the judge said, no, it's racist. You're black and Muslim. If you'd have been white, you wouldn't get in trouble. An underground, giant training base with the kids telling police we're being trained to shoot up schools and people that had disappeared from different states being held there. And a three year old found dead on the property in underground tunnels who died in a ritual of torturing him. They're now reporting to bring forth the prophet Jesus and make him be reborn.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Don't worry, the local liberal government has brought in tens of thousands of tons of sand and is using bulldozers to cover the compound. And they said, if you were white, you would not be in jail if a dead three year old reportedly killed in a ritual to make him turn into Jesus. And they're now releasing him on $2,000 bond, $20,000. That means you got to pay two, but the judge in a waiver, no money paid. Cash bond is evil. Do you hear what I'm saying, ladies and gentlemen?
Starting point is 00:39:00 I hear you. So just to respond to one of the points before we get into sort of the meat of this, I would say, the idea that they're covering it up with sand and whatever. It's someone else's property that this camp was on. It's their choice. They've processed the crime scene by now. This has been going on since the beginning of August. They've done everything that they need to do with the physical location.
Starting point is 00:39:23 It's not like there's anything there that they've missed. So the idea is not that they're not whitewashing something or covering it up. It's this guy's property. It's someone else's property. Breaking news, man, covers up gopher holes. This is an issue where there was a group of Muslim folk who had a compound in New Mexico that was allegedly being used where this guy was teaching kids how to shoot weapons. And there was a kid there who died.
Starting point is 00:39:54 And apparently there were rituals that were being done because they thought he would become the next Jesus Christ. That'd be fun if they were right. So I'm going to read to you from the CNN article to give you a little bit of a context of what this story is about. And then we're going to talk a little bit more about the important pieces of it. So quote from the CNN article. The family fled Georgia for a compound in New Mexico where they trained their children in firearms use
Starting point is 00:40:17 according to testimony. A child died at his father's hand during a religious ritual intended to expel religious demons from his body. 11 more malnourished children were later found on the property. The family believed that once the demons were gone, the boy would return as Jesus four months later and tell his family which institutions to get rid of, a witness said. Those who did not believe their message would be killed or detained until they believed a teenager on the compound said according to an FBI agent. There's no evidence that they killed anybody else.
Starting point is 00:40:44 But all of them are charged with 11 counts of child abuse. And it's being dealt with as a very serious issue. That's interesting because that's exactly what happened with my parents' cult. And it was a Christian cult. Now hold on to that thought because we'll get to it. We'll circle all the way back to that. So they were being labeled as a militant, violent Islamist group or Muslim group. And quote early on the local sheriff called the suspects extremist of the Muslim belief.
Starting point is 00:41:17 He later said that his statement was based on their appearance and he did not want to imply violence. So the very idea, the kernel of where that came from is from physical prejudice. From a New Mexican? Now there are children who were being mistreated there. Absolutely. There were children who were reported missing in other states who were there. But it's not clear whether it was parental kidnapping or something along those lines. There's a little bit of murkiness to that which I don't care to unpack entirely because I think there's a bigger issue.
Starting point is 00:41:53 So from the judge quote, the state alleges that there was a big plan afoot. But the state is not shown to my satisfaction by clear and convincing evidence what in fact that plan was. Judge Sarah Bacchus said, the state wants me to make a leap and it's a large leap. And that would be to hold people in jail without bond based on again troubling facts. But I didn't hear any co-aid plan that was being alleged by the state. So this is in response to like her ruling is I don't see evidence of the assertions that are being made. Namely that they were training kids to be warriors of some sort. Namely one of the accusations of the prosecution was they were teaching them to do school shootings.
Starting point is 00:42:35 And that was why they would be a danger to the rest of the public. What? Right. You're going to have to have some actual evidence of that. It's almost like the burden of proof is on the government. Well, it unfortunately it is. And thankfully, I believe that this judge was clearly saying that you have not presented proof of these things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:55 And therefore I'm not sure that it would be appropriate of me based on troubling facts to treat this as anything other than a child abuse case. Yeah. Yeah. So Alex is entirely ranting just about the statements that were made by the defense attorneys whose job it is to defend their clients. Well, we shouldn't have those. They said things like, quote, if these were white people of a Christian faith who owned guns, that's not a big deal because there's a Second Amendment right to own firearms in this country. If these were white Christians, faith healing is of no consequence because we have freedom of religion in this country. But they look different and worship differently from the rest of us.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Thomas Clark said Monday. So the argument that Alex is responding to and claiming that the liberal government is making and that they're saying that if you were white, you would be in trouble. Trying to like bring all that stuff in or statements that are being made by the defense attorneys whose job it is to come up with a defense. Right. And who are correct? I think that there's something to it. So here's the thing. Three-year-old Abdul Ghani Wahaj died at the compound and his death is absolutely the result of a very least criminal negligence.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Quote, the boy suffered from seizures requiring constant care and medical attention. His mother, Hakima Ramsey, previously told CNN. After a trip to Saudi Arabia in October 2017, Siraj Wahaj, ooh, that's a fun name. Siraj Wahaj said he wanted to stop. He's my favorite rapper. He said he wanted to stop giving his son medication and perform rituals to quote cast demonic spirits out of his son's body. This is not really too far off from Alex's distrust of psychiatric medication, his demonization of vaccines and his belief in literal demons. These are people who largely just took Alex Jones' beliefs and put them into action.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Now, why that's important is because oftentimes a dead kid is the result of the things Alex Jones believes in. In terms of don't trust medicine and that sort of thing. Now back to your point. From the Washington Post. Nearly one-third of the roughly 600 grave sites in Peaceful Valley Cemetery belong to a child, advocates say. What? Spotty records make it difficult to identify how and why the children died before their burial at the graveyard used by the followers of Christ. A splinter sect that practices faith healing and believes that death and illness are the will of God.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Do what now? The coroner and autopsy reports gathered by advocates and former church members childhood memories tell a story of children needlessly dying from lack of medical care. Bruce Wingate, founder of Protect Idaho Kids Foundation, estimates that three to four children will die this year in Idaho alone if lawmakers fail to lift the state's faith healing exemptions. Linda Martin, a former church member and retired Lane County barber, said followers of Christ members issue birth control, normally give birth at home and frequently forgo prenatal care. They often homeschool children and go without birth certificates, making efforts to track faith healing death is difficult, she said. The culture and rituals of the church compound the problem, said Canyon County Sheriff Kieran Donahue. He said followers have not always alerted authorities after a death. When deputies are called, often they find bodies moved, washed and redressed and dozens of church members milling about the house of the deceased, he said.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Martin said that after Oregon removed spiritual healing as a defense in 2011, some followers of Christ church members moved to Idaho to escape scrutiny of their religious practices. Quote, some people look at the Bible as applicable law. Jim Jones, former Idaho Supreme Court Chief Justice said of state lawmakers, quote, it is also the independence of Western culture. They don't like government telling them what to do, she said. There is this feeling that parental rights are absolute and religious freedom rights are absolute. According to the National Institutes of Health and the journal pediatrics, quote, between 1975 and 1995, 172 children died following faith healing, 140 of them from easily curable or treatable medical conditions. In one case, a two year old girl choked on a banana and showed signs of life for an hour before dying, while her parents and other adults simply prayed. So the issue is that this is something that happens with the white folk quite a bit.
Starting point is 00:47:08 That's not to say that it's not a real issue. And I think that these people did some really fucked up stuff. But to paint it as some sort of like a terrorist training ground, or to say that it has anything to do with the Islamic faith that they followed is cockamamie bullshit. And you said, as we were starting it, that in your community that you grew up in, that this was something that would happen. I don't know if deaths are, oh wait, you said there was. Yeah, no, there was. That's why the cult broke up is because they killed a kid. Which, by the way, I think I really want people to get this taken care of. They did not watch a kid die. They did not do anything other than murder a child. They murdered that child. They killed him.
Starting point is 00:47:55 This is where we get back to the Mies Institute and the Libertarian Ideology. Because they don't believe that there is an affirmative obligation that you have to give your children health care. So that means that there can't be a negative obligation or a negative consequence when you don't. Isn't that such a twisted idea that you would rather watch your child die than ever, ever accept medicine? It's God's will. You're weak if you accept medicine. Also, it doesn't take medicine to get a banana out of someone's throat. I would say that I would rather...
Starting point is 00:48:30 Well, the Heimlich maneuver is against God's will. That's true. He doesn't like maneuvers. He hates maneuvers. He hates anything that has to do with parking. The Valhalla, no, shit, what's the one where you... The Valsalva maneuver, where you pop your ears. I would rather hang out with someone who's killed upwards of two people than someone who sat around and watched a two-year-old girl choke on a banana and do nothing.
Starting point is 00:48:57 I think I would be cool with the murderer. Yeah, because at least I did it. I've walked behind people walking too slow and covering up the entire sidewalk. I've wanted to kill before. You are fine. I'd still think he was a fucked up person, but I can't imagine the level of fucked up. You have to be to see a child who is struggling for an hour, choking on something that you could easily dislodge from their throat, and you're just like, well, if they die, they die.
Starting point is 00:49:27 And then they just move on. It's ununderstandably evil. Anyway, I don't want to go too deep into this. And also, I should say that this is still developing to a certain extent with Korten. And the reason that they let them off was because they don't pose a threat to society. They pose a threat to each other, but send them out. Maybe that'll solve all of our problems. We won't even have to process them as they murder each other. So Alex is mad about this idea that the judge let them go,
Starting point is 00:50:00 but the reason is because, as she very clearly said in the quote that we read there from the article, the state did not do a good enough job of proving their case that they are a danger, and therefore she must let them go. So Alex, if you believe in the rule of law, you have to believe in that. But unfortunately, you have different standards for white and brown people. You are only mad about this because they're Muslims. So enjoy. Which is inexplicably the thing he brings up.
Starting point is 00:50:33 He's like, oh, and then there it's like, oh, this wouldn't happen if it was a white family. And you're like, well, you wouldn't be talking about it if it was a white family. You've got plenty of options to talk about white families homeschooling their kids, teaching them how to shoot guns, and then watching them die. You've got so many stories of this. This is a regular occurrence in the white community. And you never bring it up. My argument to that is it's very explicable.
Starting point is 00:51:00 You said it's inexplicable. Oh, and also just from... Just from June of this year, I'll read a little bit of this article. Quote, the parents of a baby girl who died because she didn't receive medical attention in favor of faith healing took a plea deal on Monday. Travis and Sarah Mitchell both pleaded guilty to criminal negligent homicide and criminal mistreatment according to John Foote, district attorney for Clackamas County. So there's a nice white couple who did exactly the same thing.
Starting point is 00:51:29 I don't like you describing them as a nice white couple. I'm saying it facetiously. Yeah. The Alex Jones school of nice white people. So that's a mess. But congratulations, Alex. Unreal. Of all the things that I think are hearkening back to his past self here,
Starting point is 00:51:47 we still get to keep that hatred of Muslims because that's become so key to him. What do we got to do to teach people that religion is a disease? I don't know. I think, unfortunately, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But I know that this wouldn't help.
Starting point is 00:52:04 So Alex is still, now he's back on Cuomo. Sure. Sure. Back on home turf, so he thinks. Oh, boy. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. This is disgusting.
Starting point is 00:52:19 It's just real bad. We will reach greatness when discrimination and stereotyping against women, 51% of our population is gone. That is a total psychological warfare option. Turn women against community and break society. I noticed he does the MPR thing. We talked about welcome to Madonna. May I help you?
Starting point is 00:52:45 Because they're in a plant. I am Governor Cuomo. You get places because of me. Now I can never wait. It never gonna be great ever again. So that's a commercial break there. That he got completely caught off guard by that commercial break. He was lost in that too close to your Bernie Sanders, if I could be honest.
Starting point is 00:53:07 A little too close. It was Bernie Sanders and yet somehow even more offensive to mentally handicapped people. You know why? Because it was Bernie Sanders played on like three quarter speed. It was like when you slow down the chipmunks too far. Also, bro, that is not what MPR sounds like. He's like, you're doing that MPR. So that's bad.
Starting point is 00:53:30 That's bad. That's horrific. Not nearly as bad as what happens when he comes back from break. I like first it just goes on for a while. But I love to imagine that he was doing that through the entire break. Yeah, of course. Just going up to Rob. I like to imagine that he had at least one stop.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Where he's like, so is that a good? Is this good? Is that a good impression? Should I call Lauren? Yeah. I have to do three characters for him. I don't know. Bernie?
Starting point is 00:54:10 Yeah. And then I assume Elizabeth Warren. Sure. Yeah. We're not a cult of psychos. Come. We're not weirdos. We're not dangerous.
Starting point is 00:54:20 We love you, Cuomo. If you are a Christian. So that's also where he's pretending that the audience was. Yeah, we love it. You're doing great. Yeah. And in reality, they were not at all that into it. If you are a pro.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Most they were not. Get out of my state. Those are real quotes from two years ago. Bernie Sanders. It's up on info wars.com. New article out. America now believes in socialism. Close.
Starting point is 00:54:49 You're not going to do it. Come on. It is going to be good. I never worked a day in my life. I did not have a job till I was 40 years old. What about a government job? Honeymoon. Not real.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Soviet Union where we could have. Are we sure this isn't his Ruth Bader Ginsburg impression? No idea. You don't understand when you're as ugly and stupid as I am. All you want to do is screw people over. And I will do it. Don't you worry about that. I mean, his sounds like they've had a bigger lobotomy.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Cuomo. Are you Sanders? I mean, let's play this one more time. America. Is he playing it? No. But hold on. You have to pay close attention to what he says in this character.
Starting point is 00:55:35 That's great. It's more like America never died great. And America never going to be great. Because we're mean to the women. We put them in burkas. We chop off the genitals. We sell them into sex slavery. They have the highest rate of college education.
Starting point is 00:55:51 They live longer than anybody else. Wait, wait, wait. What? And with these women you do what I tell you. Tell you as alpha males are bad unless it's me. In the middle of the character, by the way, it goes on even longer. Wait, wait. Why is it mistreating women for them to have the highest rate of education?
Starting point is 00:56:09 Because he's not good at making points and juxtaposing things. So within the same character voice that he's supposing is this stupid guy, he brings in like his narratives about why Muslims are bad to women. Right. And then brings into why America is good to women in terms of graduate college. But it doesn't work in terms of that character. The character has to either do all one or all the other.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Right. You can't have it both ways. Because if it's all the things that America is great about for women, then it's lampooning, it's parody. But if it's all the things that Muslims do that are bad in Alex's conception, then it's a caricature. Right. But he's trying to mix both of them and it's very clunky.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Well, he, though, believes that colleges are there to brainwash women. So in his twisted worldview, that does make sense. It does, but that's an interesting thing to unpack. Yeah, there's a lot going on there. Because he does credit countries for having a lot of women who go to college as a positive thing. Right, but they're away. They're elsewhere.
Starting point is 00:57:14 They're elsewhere. He does say that it's bad to go to college. He's fucking stupid. Yeah, there's a lot of, like, you scratch right below the surface and none of this makes sense. And somehow this is, I don't know who exactly that voice is offensive to other than like eight or nine different groups. Well, two specific people, Cuomo Sanders.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Yes. Bruce Bader Ginsburg, of course. Perhaps. Yeah. I'm going to go with... Anthony or Tamanic. Anybody who could do good impressions. James Addome and probably not thrilled with anything.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Also just, you know, any, anybody. Anybody. Anybody that doesn't speak English the way he does. Yeah, I was going to say. There's a little bit of that. Yeah. New Yorkers. New Yorkers.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Any immigrant. You know, all of that is, is wrapped up in who should be, and me. I'm offended by it. There you go. It's horrible. But also I'm offended in the same way that Tamanic should be. Yeah. But...
Starting point is 00:58:14 Because you do a great Bernie. As good as Alex. So in this next clip, Alex lies a whole bunch about things that are going on in the UK. And then I will explain on the other end why it's a lot of bullshit. UK's criminal prosecutions at record low despite crime near all-time high. That's an article up on infowars.com on the telegraph. Prosecutors have reached an all-time low despite crime soaring in a new record.
Starting point is 00:58:45 High official government figures reveal the number of people dealt with by criminal justice system in England and Wales fell 7% in the last year while record crime shot up 11% to 5.5 million, mainly acid attacks and stabbing. We'll go back to the acid attacks and stabbing here in a second, but there's some pretty just really reasonable ways you can get around this. One of them is that there are repeat offenders and stuff like that. People who commit multiple crimes and that's something you should factor in there. They're dealing with less people and there are more crimes.
Starting point is 00:59:17 That's one way you can do with that. Also, in the last couple of years in the United Kingdom, they've instituted a lot of new recording policies for the police and that has led to quite a rise in reported crimes that were going unreported before. Naturally, you would see a rise in reported crimes that necessarily weren't all getting solved. If you look at it in terms of the United States, you probably see a very similar trend in times that we've had criminal reform, police office administrative reforms.
Starting point is 00:59:49 How many times have we seen in the past of, let's say, a sex worker gets murdered and they just say it's a suicide or something like that so they don't have to investigate and so it doesn't fuck with their stats? I've seen the wire. Yeah, when we instituted the, what was it, the stat policy or whatever that most police forces in different cities had to now keep record of their stats and if the stats went up too high then you had to do this whole thing and rather than improve, they just were like, well, let's cheat the stats.
Starting point is 01:00:26 That makes more sense. You end up doing quota busting. Exactly. I looked into this because I was very interested. The asset attack stuff is such a common narrative to spread fear about Islam. There is such, like it's consistent through Alex Jones, Tommy Robinson, all of these people, they always talk about asset attacks. They're so fucking regular with them and I'd never really done too much looking into
Starting point is 01:00:51 it. I always just assumed that they're over-inflating things and like, there's not that many asset attacks, but it turns out there are a bunch. But from the BBC, quote, there's a common understanding of asset attacks in the UK that goes something like this. The attacker is male, the victim female. Both are South Asian and I should point out here, I looked into like official UK statistic keeping.
Starting point is 01:01:12 South Asian and Asian are categories that include Middle Eastern. Right. They don't have a separate category for Middle Eastern. They just have black, which includes African and Caribbean. White, which includes all the sort of European ethnicities. Asian and mixed. Those are the categories that they have in terms of official record keeping. Weird.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Weird. That's a conversation that needs to be had, but not right now. No. I agree. I agree. Those are the categories. Weird. That's a weird system.
Starting point is 01:01:43 But I don't run the UK police system. Is that part of the metric system? No. I don't think it is. It's a base 10 and a base four on ethnicity? No. So there's a common understanding of asset attacks in the UK that goes like that. Attackers male, victim female.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Both are South Asian and the violence has something to do with the man's so-called honour. Statistics released by London's Metropolitan Police to the BBC provide a breakdown of every recorded asset attack over a 15-year period by age, gender, ethnicity, burrow, hate crime, and outcome. This is the fullest picture yet of the capitals, suspects, and victims. Here are the stats that it showed. The suspect was male 74% of the time and the victim was male 67% of the time, with only one attack ever being related to the idea of honour.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Quote, in many regions of the world, most attacks relate to gender violence. The Executive Director of Asset Survivors Trust International. Quote, these attacks are often linked to rejected sexual advances or marriage proposals. However, this does not appear to be the case in the United Kingdom. Asset attacks are on the rise in the UK, though, so what's causing it? Quote, this is likely to be related to a rise in moped gangs, according to Dr. Simon Harding, Associate Professor in Criminology at the University of West London. He goes on to say, quote, we've had acid throwing in this country for over 200 years,
Starting point is 01:02:59 and there's been a new development of it, said Dr. Harding, but it's not new and it's not imported. So it's just a phenomenon that apparently is a part of London crime or English crime that is sort of foreign to our ideas as something that's very common to Americans. So it's like the idea of almost like the idea of a tipping point. At a certain point, it becomes a thing that somebody has done, and then it becomes an option for so many other people to then take. It's a trend. It's like a fad. For 200 years, fad?
Starting point is 01:03:38 Well, I mean like the recent uptick is my point there. Yeah, perhaps, but I don't think that from the data I was able to find, the uptick is not that large. But the number of people who end up getting acid thrown at them is not nothing. What? It's weird. What are you doing throwing acid at people? I know I'm not the one to judge since my country shoots everybody all the time, but come on, acid, that sounds lazy.
Starting point is 01:04:04 It's weird, but also like you see here, the victim being nailed 67% of the time is pretty counter to the narrative that Alex and his Muslim honor situation. Which is such a huge part of their propaganda against Muslims. And the fact that it's not a uniquely, as the British would categorize it, Asian crime. Yeah. I mean, you know, it should give some pause and make you think like this is, there's a different story that you could tell here that's interesting and like, let's get acid away from people.
Starting point is 01:04:33 And it's not so much like the Muslims are running a muck and dumping acid on everybody. Which is what Alex would want you to think because that makes them into a Batman villain. I can't think, I can't visualize this any other way now than like a bunch of guys riding on mopeds with a pot that's filled with acid and then they toss it. Sure. Either that or now I see a squirt bottle, you know, like a ketchup dispenser. Oh, I thought you meant like a super soaker. Yeah, some maybe.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Yeah. How strong are super soakers? That's the first question we need to answer. Reinforced super soaker. I think that's a more whimsical fun version of what's probably a horrible reality. No, I'm sure it's true. I just don't. So now it's dudes.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Let's distill this once more back down. No, no, no. It is not. Seventy-four percent dudes are the suspects. That's still a solid dude amount. True. It's dudes. Not entirely.
Starting point is 01:05:25 But considerably dudes. Three-quarters dudes is too many dudes. Right. So now about stabbings. This is another thing that Alex always brings up because that's his way of... Why do you need gun control? People are going to find a way to stab each other. Stabbings statistics in the UK include knives, broken bottles, sharp objects.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Right. I should note that... The HBO series sharp objects as well. And if you've killed anyone with a DVD of Peaky Blinders, then that's in there too. DVD dance. Blu-ray. So according to official data from the UK Parliament, quote, 2017 saw an increase of knife-related assaults.
Starting point is 01:06:06 But to put things in context, the 2017 number is only 6 percent higher than the level seen in 2010 to 2011. Further, the rise from 2015 to 2017 is, quote, directly related with improvements police made in recording practices. So that is another issue where you see an upswing and you can make a lot out of it if you want to. But if you get to the root of it and you look for explanations, what you find is that that's why there are more of them.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Right. And the fact that, you know, six, seven years ago is almost the same as now. There's a little bit of a dip and then it came back up. But if you're going to blame Muslims for all of this violence like they are so want to do, then you have to explain why it was at that high in 2011. Yeah. Is it possible that there were deficiencies in reporting that happened over the last couple years?
Starting point is 01:06:55 And I don't know. We get back to maybe this is a demagogue spreading propaganda. Perhaps. And also interestingly, there were 215 knife-related homicides in the UK during the year 2016 to 2017. How many gun deaths were there in the United States? More than that. But that 217.
Starting point is 01:07:13 But that number, the 215 knife-related homicides in that year, Alex tries to present this as like there's a giant upswing in knife murder. So we're talking 6%. So that's 12. There were 12 more. Well, no, no, no, that's just entire knife violence. Okay. 6% from 2011 to 2017.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Homicides is like four. Well, so there's 215 in 2016 to 2017. Yeah. It's only two more than there was from 2015 to 2016. There isn't really an increase, a substantive increase in these crimes. There's only things that you can sort of cheat statistics and come up with your own explanations for it. That's a percentage and that is way, way more intimidating than the actual number.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Sure. I mean, it's something like all knife attacks and assaults, they're up like 20%. Right. But again, a lot of that can be attributed to specific improvements that they've made to recording practices. So some of that can be taken away from that. Some of that can just be considered perhaps incidental. Like there's a certain amount of it that's statistically irrelevant.
Starting point is 01:08:21 So you take away some of that percent. And then you take into account that it's not just Muslims that are stabbing people. Right. Generally speaking. Dudes. Dudes. And then also, I mean, statistically, we have the same issues here. The stats that you can get about offenders are generally who got arrested for things.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Right. And you see a marked higher incidence of black people being arrested. So great. You know, it's kind of tough to figure out what the actual story here is. But from all the statistics that are available, it's not as big of a, like a wave of knives all over England. Here's another issue. A wave of knives and acid.
Starting point is 01:09:06 That's all propaganda. Oh, shit. Once they find a way to make knives out of acid, we're fucked. Here's another telling point. When you use 6% in America, like say there's a 6% rise in gun violence in America, that means there's what, 4,000 more incidents in England, as you pointed out, in gun, you know, a 2% rise is two dudes. Well, that's all the homicide.
Starting point is 01:09:35 No, I know what I'm saying. I know, I know, I get, but the point there is because we're so used to so much violence, that kind of small percentage in uptick to us means so much more than it does there. So just to put things in a little bit of a broader perspective, 215 knife related homicides. In the same year, there were 116 that were just people got beat. And 134, there were strangulation. Four that were drowning murders. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Yeah. Like what kind? I don't know. It's, they don't explain it. They don't classify it into cinder block drowning versus. I just, I just saw it in a chart. I don't know the details. And actually it might be two.
Starting point is 01:10:15 I can't remember if it's two or four. I didn't write that one down. It's hard to drown somebody. If you drown somebody, there's a certain amount of respect I have for you there. It is an ineffective, inefficient murder. No, it's an inefficient murder. That's a great way of putting it. So Jordan, it's even hard to stab somebody to death.
Starting point is 01:10:34 It takes a lot of stabs or like a really good stab. True. We see a very consistent thing in Alex in terms of lying and missing the forest for the trees in order to demonize minorities at the expense of glorifying white folks and making white people feel more in danger. That's very consistent. So now we see these newer things like him not being able to time his breaks right. We see Genesis communications ads coming in and whatever the case is with that, whatever.
Starting point is 01:11:05 This next clip is where I was like, Alex is becoming his past self. There is no way that anybody who listens to our podcast will hear this and not be like, this isn't 2018. What the fuck? Oh, shit. You can see. No. Alex Jones.
Starting point is 01:11:23 I can always be down. This little mural hacker. He left his living in cheap hotels. The desk quiet. He learns cold. Alex Jones. Alex Jones. Alex Jones.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Alex Jones. Alex Jones. Alex Jones. Alex Jones. Alex Jones. Alex Jones. Alex Jones. Alex Jones.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Alex Jones. Alex Jones. Alex Jones. Alex Jones. He's quiet. He learns cold. And so the story is withdrawn. Pancho needs your prayers.
Starting point is 01:11:53 It's true. Just keep a few for the let you see. He's feeling documentary. Only doors what he had to do. He's grown old and oh. He still doesn't know how to time the lyrics. You do share one thing in common with that right to the nose. What's that?
Starting point is 01:12:24 You love to sing along with that. It's like a it's like a Bruce Willis. What was the name of that movie? I don't know. The one with a he was in the Mr. Glass duets. I don't know. That was when the Paltrow movie and Huey Lewis and the news. No news.
Starting point is 01:12:48 No news. Alex has to get to the news. Yeah. Well, the entertainment news. It's crazy. He's been doing this for a decade, but he's not doing that because I'm listening to the feeds. Right.
Starting point is 01:13:02 That is very different. Yeah. Then current day stuff. I'm not just creating something out of nowhere here. I have not heard him sing along like that since the episodes that we're listening to deep in the past. I think Alex Jones is getting like, I think he might be starting to come to terms with the fact that like he's back on his own turf.
Starting point is 01:13:18 I'm going to I'm going to be what I was again. Yeah. Best case scenario. I'm going to be back to where I was 10 years ago. Yeah. I had a good run and that's why even Paltrow and lefty thematically is such a good song for him to be wistfully singing along to because he's like, he only did what I have to do. And now he's growing old.
Starting point is 01:13:40 His subconscious is coming out. Yeah. Absolutely. There's almost like a piece of it that he's singing along to. It's almost diagetic songs to his life. Yeah. It's almost like it's thematic. It's crazy, man.
Starting point is 01:13:52 On some level, he gets it. I think he does. Yeah. And I think he's hoping that it doesn't go bad so he can still do this. He's going to need to cut his overhead. That would be my advice to Alex right now. Cut. Get rid of that studio.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Shroyer. Hit the bricks. Get rid of the studio. I mean, he might have to be interesting because I could always use a little bit of that singing. So I told you earlier that Alex was going to say something correct about Reagan. Yes. Let's get that out of the way. But one thing Reagan did wrong was they did defund the state hospitals in the early
Starting point is 01:14:27 80s. Good work. God Almighty help us. I mean, lack jobs, people. So it's not a little judgmental there. You ruined it. It didn't go the correct way, but you did get it. You kind of got it.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Your criticism of Reagan is correct. Yes. Now, the way you proceeded is disgusting. But this is in reference to those people who had the compound in New Mexico. Yeah. He's talking about them as complete whack jobs and here's where he goes with it. Total complete whack jobs. They only found the baby yesterday.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Remember the early reports where there's a dead body of the child died in the affidavit the cops filed the state police and the local police. They're like, don't release them. The kids all told us and they found the dead baby. They found the dead three year old just like the kids told them and they're still going free. Because they're signaling to their people to whatever you want. Go crazy.
Starting point is 01:15:32 We're going to let you out. Just like Benton Parton said, he said the left wants to release all the criminals to go wild. I'm like, we're all in my eyes. We got too many prisons in general. He's like, yeah, that doesn't matter. I'm at leftist operatives. They built all the prisons to train the people, Jones, and I was like, obviously, he was smart.
Starting point is 01:15:51 I was young. I haven't plugged the salary. If we don't find this, we'll be shut down. It's that simple. We have a bunch of incredible products, the best fish oil, the best fish oil for your kids on a roll, the best krill oil. Cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Krill oil? Krill. Krill oil. Yep. Look, dude, that, I mean, that's a pivot. Nice. Well done. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:15 Mediocre. Yeah. It was desperate. But again, I think he's realizing he's up against the brakes and his timing is off a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. But the thing that he's talking about, General Ben Cardin, I believe, is Parton, P-A-R-T-I-M.
Starting point is 01:16:31 And so he, earlier in the show, he told a story about having dinner with him and he's saying that, so what the commies want to do, these commies on the left, the John Birch Society is totally right. Yeah. What they want to do is make sure that the death penalty goes away. So whenever their operatives go out and foment the revolution, they can get them out of prison, which unlike that plan stinks. That's a long-term plan.
Starting point is 01:16:52 And getting rid of the death penalty ain't going to help with that. If there's a revolution, get everyone out of prison. You don't need to do that afterwards. I don't know. You have to change the rules beforehand. I don't know. Very stupid. So I went into Ben Parton and it turns out he's a guy who's only really notable in any
Starting point is 01:17:08 way because he was a pretty early Oklahoma City bombing skeptic, let's say. Great. Great. His claim to fame was he put out a report wherein he claimed that the bomb that Timothy McVeigh would have had would have been too small to cause that kind of damage. And unfortunately, other people have done reports that have been very based in physics and science and measuring the crater that happened and the diameter and depth of it. And they've found that absolutely it could have.
Starting point is 01:17:39 So he is basically just a discredited Oklahoma City bombing. Is he an actual general? Yeah, I didn't look into his career. But from what I understand, yeah, he actually was in the service. But that's one of the other things that we need to really take into consideration is just because someone's like a former FBI agent or an Air Force colonel or general, that doesn't mean they're also not crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:01 You know what I mean? Yeah. A bunch of the people on Carrie Cassidy's show have actually been in the service. A lot of them are lying about it too. But some of them actually have been. Yeah. That doesn't preclude them from also being opportunistic liars. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:16 So I don't, I don't care. I don't care. I don't. I mean, like, like when people talk, when people talk about Trump revoking security clearance for these people, I like, fuck them. I don't give a shit. I disagree. I think that's very dangerous.
Starting point is 01:18:32 You think so? Yeah. And the reason is because it's an implicit threat. It's not about John Brennan losing his security clearance. It's a message to other people who might speak out against him. Yeah. I don't think that there's any other way to interpret it because Trump has even said, I'm going to get rid of other people's security.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Yeah, of course. It is a threat from a despot who's saying that I will, because it's not just former people he's going to take clearance away from. It could be people who already are in, who are still in the job or whatever. And if they have their clearance revoked, they are fucked. They can't do their job. You know? Weird.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Right. You see, he's just, that's one of those things that you don't know until it happens. I didn't know the president could just do that. I guess he can. Like, is that a thing he can do? Can he do that? Why couldn't he? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:19:21 I don't know why he could. That seems, it seems like a random ass thing to have that power. Did somebody just... He's the executive man, he's the commander-in-chief of all the forces. Yeah, but... Why wouldn't he be able to just be like, alright, fuck you? That's a bad idea then. It's pretty bad.
Starting point is 01:19:36 We did not see, how did they not see that coming? Well, it turns out we had normal checks and balances in place, but not weird checks and balances. I know, right? We were playing on playing weird. So many people just... That's why the Constitution, people calling it a perfect document is like, no, no, no, no, you don't get it.
Starting point is 01:19:57 People are fucked up and they'll find a way to do some weird ass shit. There's a lot of people who like to wiggle. Who would you... Who would have even imagined that? Like what president, what person, what founding father is writing the Constitution and they're like, well, eventually we're gonna have top secret clearance, of course. We need a plan for that. Totally.
Starting point is 01:20:17 This is our first Constitution. So we got a, you know, we tried the, we tried the Articles of Confederation that had zero security clearance provisions in it. So we got to write that. You know what? I assume that the president of the United States will probably like America. The president will always be a chill dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:36 I'm sure that's fine. Yeah. Yeah. And you know what's really fun about it is like, yeah, I think that we do have a problem and that we probably do need to tweak in some ways the Constitution now. We need to tweak it a lot quick. But the problem is... Again, dot, dot, dot, except Nazis.
Starting point is 01:20:53 We'll never agree on anything. So the idea of being able to change it or even ever having another amendment is crazy. Yeah. The Constitution is set in stone by virtue of the fact that we can't agree on shit. I, yeah, there's a, there's going to be a civil war before there's another amendment. Absolutely. Yeah. I would, I would agree on that.
Starting point is 01:21:11 That's likely either. But I would say that would come before. Yeah. Because people need, they'd need to be jostled into the reality of like this system is stupid and untenable. Yeah. But who knows? Anyway, this next clip, I gotta say blew my mind.
Starting point is 01:21:25 Okay. Because this info wars made this. Okay. They edited this together as a bumper to come in from commercial with. And I don't know what the fuck they were thinking. Now. They think you're a goldfish. I've been betting on you my whole life.
Starting point is 01:21:53 I believe it now. I don't think you're stupid. One man and a ranks of woman, all genitals are cut off. And these trainers asses politically and we're not backing down at her. I want to get these people. We're winning. I can feel the spirit rising. Can't you?
Starting point is 01:22:12 We have broken their back. Yes. I can feel it. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on.
Starting point is 01:22:20 Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Come on. Come on. Come on. That wasn't edited. That was Alex saying that as the next little bumper. Yeah. Kicks in. That is crazy.
Starting point is 01:22:59 The fact that that's how you want to represent yourself is nuts. Do you know, do you realize how very close that is to the drop we have for the Raptor Princess? That's the same thing. That's the same fucking shit. What are you doing? You're making yourself look like the same person. We were doing that.
Starting point is 01:23:18 God damn it. Makes me think you might listen. It's like, I want to try that. I renounce Jesus Christ. The other thing that I love there is like when he's, come out, come out, come out. That's, I mean, he's singing along to Nugent, but it's so close to, it makes me think of Adomian's Lycus. Tom Lycus impression.
Starting point is 01:23:39 Yeah. Come out. It's just so much like, what are you doing? I like that more than anything he's done in the past two years. I'll tell you that right now. But that's all like whoever's behind the scenes. I was like Darren McBreen editing that together or something like that, but like the impulse seems so strange to me, especially since it ends with like, there will be fire.
Starting point is 01:23:58 You're going to hell. Yeah. What the fuck? Yeah. Sounds great. So he does a fairly long interview with Sebel Edmonds on this episode and I don't care to talk about it. But it is interesting that she's one of the people who will still go on his show.
Starting point is 01:24:11 I don't think that a lot of, she was a 9-11 whistleblower. It's not important. It's very, it's very, her story is really complicated. And one of the reasons that I shy away from it a little bit is that a lot of the things that she is alleging are in reports that have not been made public. So there are like a lot of things that she's asserting about confidential documents and stuff like that. The unreleased pages from the 9-11 commission.
Starting point is 01:24:35 No, not that, even other stuff. And so I just don't care to get into it because I can't really figure out the veracity of a lot of stuff. Right. So I don't, I just sort of punt on it. But she's on to talk about Turkey and about like Erdogan. Thanksgiving. No, no.
Starting point is 01:24:52 And now he's going to flood Muslims into Europe and stuff like that. And the problem that I have with that is that Erdogan was paying Michael Flynn, which is one of the things that he did wrong. And the other thing is that I don't believe in any scenario, any world that Trump didn't know about that. Or there wasn't some sort of like tacit approval of Flynn working with Erdogan to try and extradite Gulen. The idea that they are now, like Alex is now talking all this shit about Turkey, I get
Starting point is 01:25:27 why, but you have to reconcile that with the fact that according to your worldview, Flynn was secretly fighting this war against the globalists and the Islamists. Right. And one of the things he was doing was working for this Erdogan, who you are now presenting as a horrible dictator who's trying to flood Europe with Muslims. Well, he's doing that because he, because it's in response to Trump being like, hey, you should probably let this dude go because he really didn't orchestrate that coup, which let's be honest, Erdogan, you know, I know that coup didn't happen.
Starting point is 01:26:00 And I know coup. You look, is Flynn working for Venezuela now too? Could be. I'm not. I'm not conspiracy. I'm not conspiracy theory. Well, if you're white, you're working for Brazil's fucking ludicrous government. Anyway, let's not dive too far down that well, because it's irrelevant to Alex's stuff
Starting point is 01:26:18 and we'd end up here all night. Suffice it to say, it's weird. And I don't care to cover that interview because weird, it would take too long to try and parse out like why, why, why, where's your, where's your line with Erdogan and Turkey? Right. And I don't really care. Right. He's mostly just talking about it because it's another way to demonize Muslims.
Starting point is 01:26:37 So he gets to some of the roundup of stories. And one of them is about how someone out there is standing up for info wars. And that's important news. Tucker Carlson, Caitlyn Bennett, you know, she's a college graduate this year that was graduating or her AR 1500 back that went viral. And so come and take it girl challenges. All Apple store devices to show info wars.com to protest censorship. Here's that video.
Starting point is 01:27:05 So I heard that Apple band, Alex Jones and info wars from their items. We just wanted to leave them with a little gift. And again, she went to all the computers and put info wars.com on. Get up. Ladies and gentlemen, this is our most important broadcast I've ever done in my life. Emergency alert. False fly. That has hundreds of thousands of views right now.
Starting point is 01:27:35 That's not everybody does stuff like that. It will totally blow up in their face big time. No, well, um, but also it's fun that this is what she's doing now because like just in the last couple of days, she posted on Twitter, her outside of that school, the promise school that LeBron James has come out and said that he's going to, uh, if everyone who graduates from the school, he's going to pay for, uh, their college education, among other things going to pay for uniforms for the kids and stuff for the parents and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:28:06 And so she went to the school and it was, uh, she posted a picture of herself outside with the microphone about how she's going to get to the bottom of who's paying for this school. Hint, it's not LeBron James, which everyone started dunking on her because it's a public school. He's splitting the funding. No, no, no. He's not paying for the school.
Starting point is 01:28:26 No, he's paying for a lot of the things for the kids at the school. And if they graduate paying for them to go to college, well, it's, so that's not paying for the school from what I've read pays for the school. Right. Exactly. From what I've read, he's not a private school. He's, he's allowed them to create and he's, he hasn't done the, the charter school route, which is even more admirable because it is going to be funded and run by the public.
Starting point is 01:28:49 It's going to be like a, almost like a, a, a test. Yeah. It's a, it's a public private partnership that is very fascinating. It'll be really exciting to see how it works out. And because the thing that she's trying to critique is so stupid, like it's so like, you could just look at the definition of like, look at what the school is, look at what LeBron James is claiming he's doing, what his plan is. You couldn't find fault with that unless all you want to do is try and tear down a black
Starting point is 01:29:20 man who's criticized daddy president. Yep. And so that's what she's all about, clearly that's been what she's been about, except for walking around and trying to get Instagram famous with guns, uh, for her entire, uh, short and, uh, unimpressive career. And now she's doing the info wars route, which is not surprising at all. Congratulations, Caitlin Bennett. You are a disaster.
Starting point is 01:29:43 And this is another thing I feel so bad because she's so young. Like this is something that I hope that she'll feel bad about later. And that's why it's really is hard for me to make fun of her because in youth you make a lot of mistakes. And these are big mistakes. These are big, very public mistakes. And I pray that she learns her lesson and, uh, you know, not learns her lesson like someone beats her up, but she learns her lesson is able to live a healthy, full life after this
Starting point is 01:30:11 because this path doesn't go good places. She doesn't have a career after this other than being like, maybe she gets to be another Tommy Lorraine and then just gets dunked on constantly and is a shill and just a pretty face for propagandists to use. It's not, it, it's, it's a sad path. A lady tweeted a dumb racist joke and got on a plane. And then when she landed, she was not allowed to be part of society anymore. And these people are allowed.
Starting point is 01:30:50 That's bananas. It's weird. It's because I don't know why actually I was going to give you an explanation. No, there's no clue. I, there's it's bananas. So what even, what even were you, what, where did we, what, where do we live in? I don't know. What are we living in?
Starting point is 01:31:04 I don't know. Let's move along. Cause we were almost done here and I know you're tired and I want to, I want to wrap this up so I don't have to be up all night. But before we get out of here, Alex thinks that everyone's taken him out of context. Yeah. And I actually kind of agree to a certain extent. I believe that I watched the entire clip of him talking about heavier battle rifles
Starting point is 01:31:26 ready and stuff like that. And I know it's violent language and it's trying to prepare people for the idea that violence is probably necessary, but he's not advocating going out and shooting anybody and people who are construing it that way. I think it's a little bit unfair to him. He brought it on himself and this is exactly the reaction he would hope for. But the news is covering it and saying that he's, this is a violent threat and stuff like that, which I do think you could construe it that way.
Starting point is 01:31:53 I think that is one interpretation that is fair, but Alex saying that I didn't construe it that way. And that's not what I was saying. It's also fair for him to, to say so in response to that, he's saying that the media, all they do is take one or two words and cut them up and make me say mad libs, which is his standard sort of complaint whenever people are actually talking about him, which is cowardly. But I think this is worse. This is a sink edit of Lester Holt reveals descriptive and deceptive edit techniques
Starting point is 01:32:27 used against Alex Jones. Now let's be clear. Lester Holt is not a pedophile, at least that I know. These are edits of him talking about children and child molestation cases, but according to Lester Holt's standard where he didn't show a clip, he just read quotes that were each word out of context put together where I said attack the media with assault rifles. He didn't say it. The New York Times did it.
Starting point is 01:32:48 Thousands of publications, but he put it out with Jack Dorsey and said, Jack, I get chills up my spine. He says he wants people to criminally kill us with guns, never said any of that. In fact, at least with this clip, we take real things he said and then put them together in their stories. It'll be one word, two words, one word, then they fill in the blanks. They don't even have the words to put it together. So they even make those up.
Starting point is 01:33:17 So this isn't even as nasty as we did to us, but here's an example of deceptive editing. Here it is. In August 15, 2018, Lester Holt claimed Alex Jones called for people to use battle rifles against a tech journalist. He did this by playing word game salad with different words that Alex Jones had said at different times. Lester Holt dishonestly recombined those words into a whole new fake sentence they claimed that Alex was actually said.
Starting point is 01:33:43 Let's use the same technique and see what Lester Holt might be claimed to have said. And don'ts me for just a moment. I think my reputation was sullied by the little boy in the little boy. He's only four, but he's ready. In the end, you know, we got a good amount of time since 2005. Now I'm going to get to spend more time and I'm expected to face criminal charges related to sexual abuse. Dude, you made a mistake.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Wrong name. But I really liked the little boy in the little boy. I don't know whether he thinks it went badly or, you know, it's not for me to judge. Is this one of those bad, the breeding videos? I remember that. I get to talk into the family and I just love a little boy in a good way, which I'm going to continue doing, but not in other places. That's what I wanted to say.
Starting point is 01:34:21 Yeah, okay. So if you have any great ideas about sneaking in a little boy, I'm all ears. I'm very good. That's fucked up. I mean, there's no other way to slice that. That's really fucked up. I get what he's trying to do and I get the point he's trying to make. There's other ways to do that than that.
Starting point is 01:34:44 I don't think that his audience understands necessarily the point of what he's doing and might listen to that and be like, haha, maybe Lester Hold is a pedophile. That's probably not fair, but I have very little faith in his audience. So yeah, I don't know. I just heard that and I was like, I know he probably thinks this is funny. It's not. He probably thinks it's clever. It's not.
Starting point is 01:35:06 And like we could do a much better version of that with Alex if we wanted to. I mean, we kind of do already. This is again him just stealing our bit. It's him stealing our bit, but doing it so terribly. Yeah. Anyway, I don't really care. I think that a lot of this does boil down to I don't really care except for the stuff I'm really fascinated by the reversions to past self that we're seeing a little bit of
Starting point is 01:35:31 these trends. I think they're very interesting. I think I would like that to continue. I would too. I think the trend I would like because I think he'd be much more interesting and palatable and that might just be our bias of liking him more in the past and not liking him liking the show. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:45 The show is more listenable when there's more human to it. Yeah. Less repetition of anger and bigotry. So we have one last clip and I kept this in specifically because it's just it's genius. Absolutely genius. Okay. I don't care how dare Trump criticizes that silence is the media. No criticizing known liars is telling the truth.
Starting point is 01:36:07 You're the ones calling for us to be silenced and you do it the same programs. You are anti free speech police. You are the enemy of the country. Does that mean I want violence against you? No. You're the ones politically trying to shut me down. I'm politically exposing you and we know when those terror attacks come against you that you're going to stage.
Starting point is 01:36:24 We didn't do it. You have hyped it up and got it prepared. It's so obvious what you're about to do before the midterms. I have to expose it so they can't pull it off. But to do that either audience to spread those videos and fours.com. So what he's done is create a preemptive justification for something that he probably thinks is a very good high likelihood sort of thing which is someone attacking journalists. Someone who loves attack on the left or something like that.
Starting point is 01:36:50 He's now created the narrative ahead of time that oh you guys are going to false flag yourselves. So you look like the victims ahead of the midterm thereby clearing the conscience of any of his wonderful great Americana listeners and militia members who they watch murder somebody and they go well don't worry that's not us. That was a false flag. Right. Right. It has nothing to do with our rhetoric or what we do or turning people out of use guns
Starting point is 01:37:16 and then letting them lose. It's not that. Right. It's a false flag. We can continue doing everything we want to do the same way and it definitely won't inspire further attacks. No. It's the reason I say it's brilliant is because on some level I think Alex has to know that
Starting point is 01:37:33 you know if I were a betting man I would say someone's going to attack a fucking journalist before too long. Yeah. It's shocking that it hasn't happened yet. Yeah. And in order to have any kind of cover for yourself you better have that narrative in place that like this is fake they're doing it to themselves because they're all cuck babies and they need safe spaces for their wah-wahs and you know they just need pity
Starting point is 01:37:55 from people or else they're not it's not going to work and so they're doing it to themselves and we're cool and I think that sucks. I think it's very lame but it's very smart if you're someone like Alex because that might help you not get sued again in the very near future. Right. So we've come to the end of this now and I don't know. I still hate him in the present but it's much more interesting when we have diamond gusset commercials.
Starting point is 01:38:22 It's always better when we have diamond gusset. He's singing along to Poncho and Lefty like he has so many years ago in the past and then this weird wrinkle of him not being able to prepare for breaks. I think there's something going on. I'm not sure what it is. I don't care that much. In terms of mysteries I want to solve that's not high on the list. I don't know why we would talk to these people anymore.
Starting point is 01:38:47 I don't understand it. I don't because because I don't talk to Alex now. No. Any kind of Trump supporter there's nothing to say because what they are doing is implicitly recognizing that what they're doing is wrong and the way they justify what they're doing is by claiming that the left is doing it. Or the other side is more wrong. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:11 So it's like it doesn't matter. It does not matter what it is you say to them because all of that is part of their paranoid fantasy that gives them justification to commit the evils that they are accusing you of committing which allows them to continue functioning. We are constantly talking to people who are infected with this brain virus and cannot ever break free of it unless there's something so there's some sort of impetus that's so large like you were saying like a civil war something that breaks them out of this inertia well because it's not going to happen by just talking to them.
Starting point is 01:39:49 You're right. You think that and generally speaking that might be true. But there are people who have gotten out. You know. Yeah. There are and the fact that there are means that it's possible for people. So I don't think that you need that extreme of a situation but maybe you need something extreme within one's own life like someone has to have a moment of crisis a moment of
Starting point is 01:40:10 doubt in order to see through the facade and see really what is being told to them. Like what what is the what is behind the rhetoric. And that might be extreme in an individual's life but it doesn't require a civil war. Well we need to have a I mean it's it's not and don't take this the way that they will take it but there needs to be a national some sort of crisis that jostles these people out of it. Sure. And I don't mean a civil war or no I know what you mean.
Starting point is 01:40:40 There needs to be some sort of a driving factor. I think no matter what the outcome of the midterms are I think as we go further in the next year year and a half or so we'll start to see a lot of the consequences more coming home to roost of the policies that Trump is putting into action. As there's more time you'll see more of the the trade war stuff not really work out in our favor. You'll see you'll see people being just banned from the country as we're already seeing. You'll see all these these trends that are already germinating.
Starting point is 01:41:15 You'll see the plants start to grow and there's but there's the the test case of the and this is something that's been reported on for years now but the people on whatever island it is the island is sinking specifically because of climate change and they all voted for Trump and they none of them believe in climate change like it doesn't matter what's going on there even their their lives are disappearing right but they're just still like Trump is great. I don't know if you can apply that to everybody. I'm not saying I'm not saying that that can be applied writ large. I'm just saying that that's a small proof of concept.
Starting point is 01:41:51 Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I choose to be a little more optimistic but who knows man. I don't know. I don't know. We can't predict the future. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:42:00 All we can do is inoculate people from this as best we can this virus and you could do that by going to our website knowledge fight dot com. You could follow us on Twitter at knowledge of your right. We also have a Facebook Facebook and we have a group called go home and tell your mother you're brilliant. Indeed you can go to iTunes and ignore Alex's podcast and download ours. Yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:42:20 And good times. So it's your turn. Is it my turn. Yep. God. I don't know. There's so many people. Like what's that horrible woman's name Caitlin Barnett Bennett Bennett.
Starting point is 01:42:32 She can go fuck herself. I'll agree with that. Andy and Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Well Alex I'm a first time caller I'm a huge fan I love your work. I love you.

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