Knowledge Fight - #199: August 29, 2018

Episode Date: August 31, 2018

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the August 29, 2018 episode of The Alex Jones Show. Mostly, Alex is in a bad head space and is getting super esoteric, but that doesn't stop him from proving his critics correct when they accuse him of being anti-LGBT.

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding Alex. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are Dan. What? Dan. What's the dumbest thing you've ever done? I don't know. Probably that episode on Monday. I don't know. I don't know. Dumbest thing I've ever done. I've done a lot of dumb stuff. Yeah. Jumped off roofs before. Right. I got you there. Yeah. We're one in one so far. Are we playing never have I ever right now? I think that's what we're doing. The rest of this episode, to lighten things up a three

hour version of never have I ever. Um, no, I've done a lot of really stupid stuff though. Yeah. Yeah. Why? Um, uh, well, because I have spent all day furious, uh, all fucking day about just no, just about all the dumb people, just all the dumb fucking people after Trump put out the fucking nobody gets a pay raise bullshit. And you're, and you're like, what the fuck are you idiots doing? Half of the, this even counts for like the ice people who are loving all of this shit. They don't realize that everything is fucked over them. It's stupid. They're so fucking stupid, Dan. And I'm sick of reading takes. I got to get off the internet forever. I can't read anymore takes. Everybody's got a hot take, Dan. Yeah.

And they're, they're not as hot as people think they are. No, they're generally Luke. They're generally terrible. Yeah. But I mean, what is this show, but our take on Alex Jones? Exactly. You know, let's, let's cool out with that criticism. Kettle pot, et cetera. More or less, you know, what are you going to do? This is an episode of a show where I know a lot about Alex Jones and I only know what you tell me about Alex and there in lies the fun. You are effervescent. Yeah. You know what? I mean, I've been, I've been in a bad headspace since our last episode. Yeah. I think I've come out of it mostly, but it would be an understatement to say that it didn't have a very serious effect on me. Yeah. And even in preparing today's episode,

I'm finding it incredibly difficult to listen to Alex Jones anymore. It's too hard to recognize little pieces that are very familiar to Anders Breviks worldview. And having glimpsed at that, it is much less fun to listen to Alex Jones because the stakes feel a lot different. Yeah. And granted, they aren't different. They are, you know, it's the same stuff that we were covering before, but there's just a, there's a reality that's hard to cope with mixed in there. One thing I will say that was fun and I hope you can agree with me is on Tuesday we went and hung out with far out 99 and that was fucking great. Absolutely. It was great. Yeah. Super fun time out at the show. Good to see you old buds, Matt Riggs, Nate Burroughs and Joe

Fernandez and Dale McPeak. Not a huge fan. It's fine comedians. You don't like any of those dudes. Nope. Nope. I'm against them. You're out on comedy. I think, I think that's my bit. I think, yeah, there we go. That's my, that's my position. Don't steal mine. I'm not going to start screaming about things. Yeah. It was a great time. And actually I'd like to take a moment to celebrate far out because we're a little over 200 episodes into the podcast. No shit. Yeah. We, you know, a lot of people like keep track. Yeah, we forgot. Numbering episodes is not really our strong suit or anything like that, but I recognize that. And you know, he made our logo that we've had as our logo on iTunes and everywhere. And it was great. We love it. But it's a little bit, possibly a time

for a change now that we're about a little over 200 episodes in. And so we got a new logo. I want to say a very special thank you to Catherine for designing that. We really appreciate it. It's, it should be in your iTunes if you want to enjoy it. Oh, it's already up. It's already live. It should be when this episode comes out. So wonderful. Thank you to both of them. Thank you to Far Out for that awesome logo that we've, that has gotten us this far. And thank you to Catherine for the one we're going to be writing into the future. Absolutely. Thank you to both. Times of change, times of winds blowing and, I don't know. Whoa, where was that going? I don't know. I was going to try and maybe quote something. I dug into my bag of quotes and found zero in there. I don't know.

Maybe a song leader could have been in there. I was trying to improvise a quote, but it turns out you can't do that. You just got to, you just got to know. You're lucky. I didn't just stare at you and say Walt Whitman. Something like that. Cause I was close. William Shakespeare. Yeah. Shakespeare. Yeah. So that's awesome. And I'd like to thank them. But at the same time, I'd also like to thank a couple of new donors to the show. This is very exciting. I'd like to say a special thank every thank you is special. But I'd like to welcome aboard as a policy wonk Dakota. Thank you so much. I'm a policy wonk. In a very weird turn of events, I think we have multiple people named Dakota donating to the show, which I think is great.

What? I, I don't know. I mean, I, I, the only Dakota I, I know is, is fanning sure. South North. Sure. None of them, none of them are donating, but thank you so much Dakota. We really appreciate it. Also, I'd like to give a shout out to someone who came in at a little bit of a higher level. And we really appreciate oh so very much. I believe that this is a pseudonym, but thank you so much for becoming a technocrat alphabet flight. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser, little, little titty baby.

I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much alphabet. Thank you so much. I assume that's, uh, is that, uh, uh, Chris Martin and Gwyneth Paltrow's kid? Oh, it could be. Yeah, that's probably one of them. It would have to be if Chris Martin, uh, got together with Jason Lee's wife or Jason Lee got together with Gwyneth Paltrow. I assume that is something that happens on the weekends. Or it could be, uh, Tim Cook gets together with Jason Lee's and his wife. They have a love baby, the three of them, because alphabet is Google. Oh, okay. Jason Lee's kid's name is pilot inspector. Okay, there we go. So we're close. We're figuring out. It's not the best, but alphabet flight is

the best. Thank you so much. What we were doing was creating an alphabet soup. Exactly. Yes. So Jordan, today what we're going to be doing, um, I, I, like I said, uh, doing that episode, um, that we put out at the beginning of the week was incredibly emotionally taxing. And I did not, um, feel up to doing an episode on Wednesday. So sorry, we, uh, missed that folks. Neither of us did. Don't, uh, don't, don't take full credit for it. But I know, I just want to explain for the listeners that's, you know, that happens rarely, but it happens. Um, and so today getting it back in, I was kind of like, Hey, let's do something light. Uh, let's go for project Camelot. And I looked at the episodes and I'm like, there's nothing here. There's nothing I want to dive into. Yeah. And I was like, Hey,

let's go. It was weird that she had Anders Brevick on as a guest. Yeah, you know what? He was off planet when that happened. It wasn't him. It wasn't him. It was set up by Minerva and the Raptors. Yeah. Um, that is probably going to be something she weaves into within the next six to nine months. Uh, fingers crossed. Yeah. Let's hope. Um, but, uh, I also was checking out Jim Baker and I just didn't, uh, it didn't do it for me. And so I was like, well, there's a lot going on and Alex Jones is current world. So let's just do it. Let's do a current one until I went in effervescent. You are. I went in, uh, and I checked out September 3rd or not September August 30th. Yeah. Oh, and Shroyer is hosting as it turns out, Alex Jones was in court, uh,

on Thursday, which kind? Um, he was in court for the Sandy Hook lawsuit. Oh, okay. His lawyers had had a motion to dismiss, which was denied. Of course. And so the trial will be moving forward. His argument that it was just his free speech, uh, was thrown out. Yeah. So that, uh, that argument didn't fly. Did the judge laugh, uh, in his face? Did like, he get up off the bench and then just look stare, like stare directly in his eye and fake laugh at him. That would be, that would be fitting. Yeah. Um, I'm not sure. So Owen Shroyer was hosting today, uh, as we're recording this. So like, I can't cover that. Let's check out the 29th. Um, and, uh, you know, there's some stuff in here. I don't know what to tell you. We will return to regularly scheduled fun next week

after we've fully recovered from Monday. Well, you know, what I wanted to do more than anything is do the 2009 stuff, but a spoiler alert. There's a lot I need to get straightened out. He gets pretty deep into some Oklahoma city stuff that I need to, uh, finish my research on. I really don't want to do the turnaround of a terrorist to white terrorist. No, let's, let's move that on. That might be our, uh, Monday theme now, Monday episode theme, Monday's white terrorists. So Wednesday's project cable. So we officially ruin everybody's start of the week. Yeah. Um, no, look, dude, there's some stuff going on in this episode. It's pretty interesting on a number of levels and upsetting on a number of others, but that's what the Alex Jones show is. Now,

let us start with an out of context drop from today's episode. We're speaking as I'll say, we're speaking as I'll say, you don't remember that. Underlay, underlay, underlay, underlay, rebar, rebar, rebar, rebar, rebar, rebar, underlay, underlay, rebar, rebar, rebar, rebar, rebar. It's not fun to do that. Yeah, it is. That's, that's Coke. That's Coke. That's a man on Coke right there. So mark that off as the first impression of the show. We'll be getting a very much worse one a little bit later. That one counts. Yeah, I think so. He's trying. So I love the confidence of a man who's like,

what is that? What is a Speedy Gonzalez say? No, what does Speedy Gonzalez say? What do I say? What are we? Who am I four ways to learn? You're getting ahead of yourself. There might be some esoteria in this episode, which is all for it, all for it. But Alex is starting today's episode off in the exact same way. He starts every episode nowadays off, which is getting real grandiose about the midterms. 69 days, ladies and gentlemen. 69 days until the most important election in world history, the planet is at a crossroads. It is undoubted. The globals are trying to shut this nation down. We are struggling as hard as we can to expose their operations. It is a neck and neck battle, ladies and gentlemen, neck and neck.

So we have the theme that's developed where he's this is the most important election of all time for all planets, right? And everything. And then of course, the same thing that he has to do all the time. The Pleiadians would disagree, but we're not all there. We don't know their electoral history. Yeah, that's true. And then the other thing there you hear at the end is that theme that he constantly uses, which is like, it's, it's basically a tie ball game. It's basically a tie ball. We're crushing them, but it's also basically a tie ball bottom of the ninth, three to three. Of course, even though it is tied, we have been destroying them the entire game. Everybody knows that. Yeah. Makes perfect sense. It's really the only sensible way you can get

more money out of people when you, when you have this worldview going. So that's all pretty sensible. I think that's exactly where he needs to be from his business model. Right. I understand it. Broke. And so the one thing that I didn't tell you is that that clip right there where he's starting the show happens at the 20 minute point of the episode. He's 20 minutes late for the show. Probably, and maybe he was in court on that day. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. They just play like reports, special reports. Oh, okay. Weird techno music with Alex's drops over it, talking about it's jack ops. That actually sounds way more fun than we should just listen to that. Yeah. Quite frankly, why aren't we starting 20 minutes into it? Yeah.

That's a good call. Just techno music with us screaming over it. So he gets in 20 minutes late, tells you that this is the most important election ever. Everything is neck to neck. We're a tie ball game. Tie ball game. And then he plays a long clip from Tucker Carlson, where Tucker is talking with a former Clinton strategist who they're talking about the idea of online censorship and stuff like that. And I'm, look, I hate listening to Tucker Carlson. I think he sucks. He's a douche. And I don't care. This is a show about Alex Jones, specifically not one about Tucker Carlson. Right. But for a good reason. But he says something in this clip that makes me kind of worry about his grasp on the issues, perhaps. Okay. And remember,

their private platforms, they say so they're not, they're not actually subject to the First Amendment unless we get some legislation here that says free speech is an internet right. It's totally meaningless. If I own a toll road, I can't say any one of a certain race can drive on my toll road. And so they're not actually fully private companies. We have a public interest, I would say, in keeping them free and open. Well, I would say that there already are rules about discluting people based on race or gender or anything like that. That's called the Civil Rights Act, bro. Do conservatives think they're a race? I think that they do. Well, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So then, yeah, they think that they have, and it's not even conservative because we have to,

we can't play the game on their terms because that's how they are describing it. Right. Right. I apologize. Describing it as conservatives are getting kicked off. Right. In Nazis are getting kicked off. Not just even Nazis. It's people who are having the consequences of their actions come home to roost. It's a situation where people who are putting dangerous ideas out into the world violating the rules of platforms are just getting kicked off of them. It's not, it's not conservatives. Again, it's the problem that I keep bringing up is like, when you have these rules, it's good to have these rules, but you can never enforce them appropriately. What's the name of the, what's the name of the underground people in the time machine?

The Morlocks? Yeah. Yeah. Can we just call them the Morlocks then? Like, if they want to consider themselves a race, let's just make sure that there's a pejorative term. I think they would love that, though. I think they would get a real charge out of that. Yeah, but they don't understand why it's enough. Okay, never mind. They don't understand anything. That's a good point. Of course, they would get a charge out of it. And Tucker doesn't understand when he's bringing up the idea of like, yeah, you can't have a road and not let black people on it. I'm like, yes, absolutely. Good call of regulation that libertarians are against. Yeah, but only when it applies to other people. Right. They hate it whenever you regulate anything that then makes them feel bad, Dan.

Regulations are important when it's you who feels bad, and they're not important when everybody else feels bad. But the analogy that he's trying to make what with the road, comparing it to Facebook, I suppose, or Twitter, right? The analogy he's trying to make is already taken care of, right? Like, say no black people. They couldn't say that that would not fly. It wouldn't fly. No, no, no. How would you even police that? It would be tough, dummy accounts and whatnot. But no, that would not that would not work. That wouldn't go well. No, you don't think so in the same way that if a restaurant says no black people, it's not okay. You know, it right. The problem is already solved that he's talking about, or he's trying to make the analogy for it. Right. No, he's fucking

stupid. Yeah, absolutely. That's all I wanted to say. But that's what they have to do that. They have to turn that, that like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, how dare you say that just because we lie and threaten people with physical harm, we're not a protected class like black people. Right. It's racism to say that you can't harass women. Right. That's racist against me. Yep. Nazi. It's racist against Nazis. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know, man. It's a tough rhetorical hurdle. I think that when you're in a safe cloistered bubble like Fox News or Alex Jones' show, it's really easy to make like that sort of wiggle, that argumentative wiggle where you're like, Hey, it's like keeping black people off a road. You're like, no, anybody who was at all

critical of them be like, what are you talking about? Yeah, that's ridiculous. Exactly. How dare you try and bring that into this conversation? So I don't know. I don't have much more to say about that. And I don't want to talk about Tucker Moore. So let's get on to this next clip where Alex does what he does best, my friend. Absolutely the best in the business at this selling things. Nope. Okay. He's pretty good at that too. Yeah. But he's the best in the business at demonizing and dehumanizing his opponents and his enemies, which is pretty great at that, which we get to see in full swing here. There's a way to beat the globalist, but people have to be serious. They have to be adults. They have to know what's going on. And they have to understand the true criminal

nature of the Democrats and the foreign corporations and the communist Chinese that empower them. These are the most psychotic, sociopathic, vicious, hateful, dishonorable, dishonest, truly wicked people who hate America and hate your family and just viciously have a total will to dominate and run your life. Are there no mirrors there? They are eugenicists to destroy the family, to make you totally depressed, to take everything away from you and then put you into a virtual reality where they can steal your soul. They are completely turned over to what can only be called the devil. Whether you believe in that as a spiritual force or an archetype, it's real. Okay. Yeah. You know, I can't. I can't. I can't. No, I can't because every single

fucking thing he just said has a real world corollary to something that the people he thinks are great are doing and no corollaries to things that the people he says are doing these things are doing every single fucking thing. Yep. Every every word he just like he just described all of the things that they are and by his own definition, we should be fucking killing them. Yeah, but I disagree with that. I disagree with it as well. But that's that his logical conclusion is everybody should murder him. Well, if you yeah, if he wants to make that argument, then if that is what qualifies as a murder worthy offense in his book, then then yeah. But I mean, more importantly, what I think what we were hearing and I think you're you're this is what

you're responding to is like he's whether he means to or not, this is a lot of projection. Oh, this is a lot of and he does more of it even throughout the show. But they'll destroy the family. What they'll do is they'll take your kids away and put you in a cage and then put them in a separate cage. They're they're trying to destroy you and they're trying to kill your family, you know, like if they were to, I don't know, remove protections for gay couples and and make sure that they're not allowed to have children and all that stuff. They're trying to dumb you down, you know, like, maybe if they were trying to make it harder to get into colleges and definitely make it more easy to commit sexual assault on college campuses. Oh, they're trying to destroy

everything trying to keep you poor like trying to make it so you can't get out of student loan debts that are abusive. Yeah. Yeah. God damn it, man. You just described Trump's policy directives his entire cabinet. Everybody is working towards all this same shit. But I think that the he wouldn't even wrestle with that. He's more interested in doing this in service of dehumanizing the enemy, you know, making it so it is okay to attack them. This works hand in hand with his narrative about how the media is going to false flag themselves and the Democrats are going to false flag themselves to get pity and sympathy in front of the midterm elections. So they end up winning because they can blame it on the Patriots. Right, right. It's the same sort of preemptive rhetoric

wherein if something bad does happen to these people, then who gives a shit, they're demons who want to destroy your family and then eventually suck out your soul. Right. So like if one of them really dangerous, if one of them were to, for some reason, threaten some sort of news organization you know, using the language of the Patriots or let's call it maybe the president himself might have said something might have might quote the president news organization. That's not the Patriots. No, that's the false flaggers. Nobody would listen to the president. No, silly. That would be crazy. Absurd. Only the false flaggers. Right. I mean, this is just super dangerous. And it's something we talk about like repeatedly. So we don't, I don't think we should spend half an hour on it. But

the idea of like doing this to your enemies is super, super dangerous. Yeah, they're doing it and we're not doing it to them. We're not demonizing them. We're all trying to constantly humanize these people who are literally doing everything that he's saying to make you guys demonize us. It's insane. Well, there is the sort of supposed over liberal use of the term Nazi to describe people. But I think we've been judicious in calling people who are expressing Nazi ideas, calling them Nazis. They're Nazis. And I try and pulled you back even from two broad declarations. Yeah. But you know, and slowly you're coming over to my side. We'll see about that. The problem is the tent under which you could call somebody Nazi is only

getting larger. Yeah. It seems like it seems like all the people who you shouldn't have called Nazis before like, Oh, you know what? Lindsey Graham is a terrible human being who is trying to kill everybody, but he's not a Nazi. And now you're like, I think Lindsey Graham's a Nazi. Yeah, I mean, I guess it comes down to that sort of lobster and boiling water kind of thing. You know, it's kind of the right has seen this turn towards cruelty, abuse dehumanization of people who are unlike yourself. And they haven't noticed the ratcheting up of the temperature of the water. And instead of getting boiled, they're all just becoming okay with a very, very close to fascist adjacent circumstances.

What are you going to do? Who's going to do what are you going to do? So in this next clip, Alex gets into, well, I would say it ends with him making a bad prediction. But it starts with something that just is great. This is it seems very grandiose in a weird way. And I think he's in a very strange mood. He might have done mushrooms the night before this episode. He's he's real weird on this episode from this point on. Comets are all rocks that I have thrown. You're not far off. He does start talking about the Comets of truth. Yeah, exactly. It's, it's very strange. Comets of truth are going to hit the world. Listen to this show for too long. You have your finger on the pulse. All right, so here we go. World government is now here in your

face with a scientific one-year-old system using a digital mark of your, of your internet ID that will be biometrically based on face scans and hand scans. Mark of the hand, mark of the hand. 2000 years later, coming true. No one can deny it. Prophecy is being fulfilled. Cool. And it also says the church will fall away and will accept the mark of the beast. Most people will accept the mark of the beast because they'll believe, you know, that it isn't actually happening because the churches aren't churches. They've been federalized. They've been globalized. They've been put under 501c3. So they won't tell you. In fact, I predict soon the people will be taking communion and giving to the offering plate with a hand scan. Mark my words within

two years. Sure. You will see people. Sure. I bet it's already going on. Sure. I never thought of that. Search engine, church takes digital payments or biometrics. This. Also, I like how he said search engine. Yeah. Didn't say Google. Big it. This, my friend, is what we call a setup because, of course, the production staff Googles that. Yeah. Conveniently. They search engine it. Conveniently. There's a very similar headline that uses those words that Alex clearly read the headline of and didn't read the story. Yeah. Because there's a and he ends up talking about this article and not getting into any of it. It's on some weird blog. And it's just someone who I believe the title of the article is three ways churches can use

biometrics to increase safety. And the entire article, what it's about is the idea of using fingerprints to keep kids safe at churches, like in terms of like knowing where they're going and coming. Right. Making sure it's the right kids there. Right. Avoiding all members of the clergy. Sure. That's a smart way of doing it. I don't think, look, I don't think that's necessary. I think it's starting to look more and more necessary. I don't know what fingerprinting is going to do to help that situation. I don't know. Look, I would say that that is a concern that, you know, losing kids at the church maybe is a concern that I am unaware of because I'm not a part of the church. I don't know if that's a rampant problem. They are big. If this is a

blog that's putting this out as a suggestion of ways churches can increase security, that's kind of their business. And this has nothing to do with an implantable chip that you have to use to take communion. Right. And it's not a slippery slope thing that's going to lead to that. It's a, you know, it's a kid safety measure. It's absurd. So his, his ideas, his idea is that in two years churches are going to need a biometric scan. Yes, sir. To take communion. Yep. To prove what? Or to tithe. Or to tithe. Now, see the money thing I get, you, you do that, but I, like, is there a database of people who are in accordance with communion rules, which I believe means you cannot be in a fight with any member of your family. You must also be right with God.

There can be no guilt on your conscience. Well, see, that's what it's going to track. Is it going to track that? Yeah. See, you have to, you have to scan your finger and it'll go to the database of familial fights, which of course the man is very interested in cataloging. And you will have to wear a mood ring as well to let you know, to let them know if you are right with God. Like if it's, if it's green, you feel guilt. Because within one and a half years, the government is going to implement a system where if you fight with your family, you must report it. Yes. Oh, of course. Right. So within one and a half years, God's got that database. I don't think he does. He's got a login. No. What's his password? God. And then his password is the tetragrammaton. It's

just the unpronounceable name of your way. He has a special keyboard that none of us can use. It's the perfect encryption. I think the metatron is the one who does that. Thank you very much. So Alex is, you know, he's, he's talking about the churches not being real churches and how they're going to, we're going to need biometric scans and what have you and like, all right, dude, have fun with that. But it leads him into talking about the antichrist. Good. I'm in. And so he's getting into this weird state where he's talking about how now they can use holograms and project people into places they aren't. Right. Which is like, yeah, it was weird that Tupac did that concert a while back. It was kind of weird. I didn't enjoy that. No, you know, it's crazy. That

was the real Tupac. Oh my God. But they use, they had to create the hologram over him. So it looked like he was a hologram, but he was still alive. He's still alive. Okay. But they projected the hologram onto his real body. Seems like a lot of work when you could just use the hologram. Yeah. But I mean, he wanted it. He's got to get out there and meet his fans. He's got to enjoy it. Yeah. So he's been trapped underground for the past 20 years. So beyond that, he's talking about like the idea that in the Bible, it says that the antichrist will be projected into giant holograms. Sure. And if you don't, if you don't submit to him, this is what's going to happen. Oh, no, what? This clip gets weird. And if you don't submit, well, you'll be downgraded. And at

first it'll be easy to get a five star. You don't have to do much. So he's talking about the idea of be downgraded. He's talking about the idea of like Chinese social scores, systems being implemented in the United States. Oh, right. Right. That sort of thing. That's one of his major fears here on this episode. And so yeah, he's talking about like having a five star rating at the beginning, not going to be too hard. But then isn't he talking about a black mirror episode? Yep. Yeah. But soon it'll be more and more and more than very few will have five stars. He'll be totally coveted the new Hollywood power. Even world leaders won't have five stars. Oh, the people that do will be like Dalai Lama like people worshiped. Cool. Cool. Sounds fun. Oh, you want that five

star, don't you? Because if you don't have it, you'll be cut off from the entertainment jobs, everything. This is their system. I think he's talking about it. And we've been warned thousands of years ago. In revelation. You read Ezekiel and you read Daniel and you read Revelation, all written within 3,000 years of themselves. No. Ezekiel says these big rings of fire come down in land and these dudes with blue helmets on that that's how it's described in the Hebrew come up and they tell them, they say, take this and then they take this thing they're told and then it downloads all the information into them. They all said the same thing. World government marks in the hands, marks in the head. Don't take it. Once you all get

rigged up to this, it's going to start exterminating everybody. Well, let's just say the Bible's not true. Yeah, done. I'm not saying that, but just for the sake of argument, what, what is it then? Because it's being lied. Now, let me just throw this in here. For now, you can still go to info.com and we're trying to take our payment processors and bankrupt this and shut us down and send us into oblivion with cool, cool, man. Oh dudes with blue helmets are going to come and they're going to be Institute world government. And by the way, you for now, you can still go to info words.com. Did you know that? Also, what you're missing from that is like, I am a major part of the fulfillment of prophecy. You know, I let that one go. That's so grandiose. Because I

assumed that he's always thought that. Yeah, probably. Oh, also, there's a problem with this stuff about Ezekiel. Alex is not actually talking about the actual text from Ezekiel. He's clearly talking about the 1974 book, The Spaceships of Ezekiel written by Joseph Blumrich, which was inspired by Blumrich reading Eric von Daniken. This, not the Bible versus is the foundation of the misinterpretation that Ezekiel saw aliens in wheel crafts. Alex believes in ancient aliens. All right. All right. So let's say the Bible's not true. He is. I'm saying that. I'm saying that. But for the sake of argument, let's say it's not true. One time. What if I referenced a movie? One time I read The Spaceships of Ezekiel and I

thought it was accurate. Cool, man. Enjoy. Like, that's that's Project Camelot level ship. Oh, yeah. That's insane. Because if you read the actual verses in Ezekiel, and you use just a tiny bit of like exegesis of the text, and you you take context clues from other parts in the Bible, like it's clear that it's at least partially metaphorical. And then also the talking about angels, you know, it's not some sort of spacecraft. And the blue helmet part that he's talking about is this awesome thing that people have extrapolated from. And they're like, Oh, it was UN workers because they have blue helmets. Of course. It's just become this crazy nonsense. Well, I remember the great Arthur C. Clark quote. Any sufficiently advanced blue hat is indistinguishable from angels,

right? That's true. That's what he said. Yep. Yeah. So that's just a lot of fun. I love the ad pivot at the end. The Alex believing he's a part of the centuries old prophecy clip has got it all the Ezekiel misinterpretation. It's it's it's just gorgeous. Like a good spaghetti sauce. Just it hits you. If you're watching, if you're watching chopped, they would describe that as a perfect bite. Yeah, absolutely. Oh God. God damn. Love it. So in this next clip, we're not going to talk about this and I beg you to not go off on a fucking rant because I know you have a lot of feelings about it. But Alex is less than gracious about John McCain being dead. I'm not going to go on a rant. I've already promised. Okay. Okay. Look, John McCain did a lot of horrible shit during

his life and there's no reason to deify him now that he's dead. But at the same time, no reason, I think especially for our show and the people that we are to put out some sort of negativity in the world and be like, Hey, fuck you, you dead. Alex tries to play the card of I don't want to talk ill of the dead. And I'd like to remind everyone how the day after David Rockefeller died, he did a celebratory show does not talk ill of the dead. David Rockefeller's dead. Keep on rocking in the free world. That's basically what he did after he died. Yep. You might have he might have played ding dong the witch is dead. Quite frankly, I would not have been I don't I don't remember that show exactly, but I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. So he's like, you know, I don't like to speak ill

of the dead, but this guy was a fucking dick. And then he gets to this sentence that I think is very interesting. And longtime listeners of our show will hear a very familiar turn of phrase here. McCain comes from a crime family. I know his last name isn't, you know, Capone, but it's unbelievable. I like to take everyone back to 2015 when Alex Jones said about Trump quote, you got a name like Corleone, they arrest you. If you got a name like Trump, they don't quote. He's a front man for consortiums on the east coast. No idea what you're talking about. He said he said the exact same things about Trump. Not three years ago. You can't take anything he says. He's dead. He's from a crime family. You got a name like Capone. McCain's a

better name. Great. What are you doing? He's recycling. Yeah, I know. It's important. He's trying to save the environment. Sure. He puts so much CO2 out into the world. At least he's reusing some of his CO2. It's a, yeah. When you blow that hard, you got to blow some excess. No, I've thought about it very hard. I've dealt with all of my complex emotions regarding John McCain. And I've decided that the best way to express them is to pretend he's John Glenn and just confuse everyone. Okay. And just say, man, John McCain was amazing. When he went into space for the first time, it changed my life. I realized what was possible because that man did something that no one else has ever done. It would be even better if you conflate him with John Glenn and John

Wayne simultaneously. Oh, no, that'd be good stuff. Three-way conflation. That'd be strong work. When he filmed the searchers on the first spacewalk, that was incredible. He showed true grit out there in space. So I don't know. I don't know how to set up clips anymore. Not because of anything that's wrong with me, but just because this show is so stupid. I don't, not our show, but when I was real by the transitive property, to some extent, yes, I think we elevate the source material a tiny bit. Like when I was listening to this show, I can't tell you how many times in my notes, it's just, this show sucks. I'm listening to his show. Like, I don't know why anybody would fucking listen to this. It's so bad. You have started writing your notes in your own shit on the

walls. Wow. Repeatedly. This show is shit. Save money on notebooks. Yeah. No, that's smart. But it's just, I don't understand what his plan is anymore other than, oh boy, you broke your pen. Better use some shit. I'll look on the wall and see what I got. So in this next clip, although just a minute ago, we heard him using a false source to claim things about the book of Ezekiel, this next clip is about how smart Alex is. People keep asking, Jones, how do you, I have the Pentagon call me up and others, they say, Jones, how are you continually, how do you know all this? And I'm like, they're writing white papers. They're writing white papers. Do all of you people just pretend you do research? I talked to generals. I talked to

former CIA section chiefs. I'm not bragging and like, I know more than they do. No, you don't. You know what? Because they're taking care of their grandkids and their kids or they're playing golf and you're not, they just kind of, you know, bitch, you can play and watch Fox News, man. I'm not doing that. Okay. Matt Drudge isn't doing that. Matt Drudge has been running his own operations for 20 something years. He's built it himself. He knows how things work. So do I. Matt Drudge has all the sources in the Supreme Court, the White House, foreign governments. Matt Drudge is a world traveler. I'll leave it at that. He knows. I don't want to be the only one up here with Matt Drudge that knows all this. It's very frustrating. Oh, poor guy. Oh, tough. That's tough.

Tough to be so smart. So is the Pentagon just calling him? Yeah, the actual building. The actual building. Yeah. Okay. I was concerned. The platonic ideal of the shape is calling Alex. And that is actually like the level of heady he's going to get in a little bit. Okay. You might not be so surprised if he's like, I met a dodecahedron the other day and it told me I was brilliant. Like it's close. It's real close. I reached into my pineal gland and I discovered the true shape of love. I would consider most of this episode like a kind of a wash and just kind of like we were just sort of retreading old material. Right. Um, but like we're having a good time. He does get into like our favorite state of Alex Jones on a little bit. The just like, what are you talking about,

man? I think you think you're using code here, but you are just freaking out on air. Just so mesoteric nonsense, which I love. And actually it starts in this next clip. Okay. But I should tell you that for the beginning of this episode, like his main, let's call it the varsity narrative has been the Paul Joseph Watson put out an article with the headline, censoring us on the social media is a massive scam for the midterm elections. So it just basically reads the headline. He reads the headline over and over again, never actually gets into the article, but sort of screams about it a little bit. But it's all just such like the exact same nonsense from four chai comms. Facebook is run by the globalists.

That sort of shit. Right. It's in the white papers and wiki leaks. Like, all right, man, have fun. You're not evolving. But when he gets back and he starts the second hour, he's been promising to get to this big news. Sure. For the entire first hour, he gets the beginning of the second hour. And my man, it's time to get serious. All right, let's get ready. No. Well, then I'm bummed. I don't really know how to put it or say it. But a lot of people think this is all a virtual reality deal. And now even top bankers and globalists, they say, oh, sir, some outside force. What are the bankers? What do you mean, top bankers? And it's simulation. And the different telescopes and

different systems they've got that measure dark matter. There's NASA papers, you name it, saying that indeed there's a power source much greater than what we see in our own matter. Holding this universe together, the whole big bang theory and the rest of it is just that theory. It's kind of like total recall. He goes in to plug in. He's had a boring life. There it is. It's a Philip K. Dick. It's based on the Philip K. Dick book, isn't it? It's a short story. Good work. Good work. And then all of a sudden, he's a secret agent and he's killing all these guys and taking these people out and

saving Mars and activating the ancient reactors to get your ass to Mars. Is he crazy? You don't know. I promise you, he doesn't get to the point. He gets lost talking about total recall. When he comes back from that, after that, he just is like, it's weird that I am influencing the president. I'm like, all right. I'm saying that it's a simulation that your, what is your point? He never brings it home. He never ties the bow of these thoughts that the bankers say that it's a simulation. Yeah. Why would I give a shit of that? Wait, wait. So what does that mean?

What does it mean? Even the top bankers are saying that. I don't know what that means. Does that mean that you shouldn't, you, look, the scientists have said it for a long time. This whole, there's a greater energy or whatever that's holding the universe together. The Higgs boson. The scientists have been saying that for 100 years, but now bankers, bankers are saying it, which is what? They control our money or maybe they don't. Is it the globalists? Are they bankers? Has any of them ever read a science book? It's all the same thing. A brief history of time. They're all magically competent in every field, according to Alex.

It's kind of crazy. Yeah. Also, I just, look, there's a lot, there's a lot going on there and he's going to get even weirder, but I love the idea of Alex taking movies that are based on Philip K. Dick short stories and pretending they're real. Like I would love it if a week from now he shows up with a little hat and he's like, it's like the adjustment bureau. I wear this hat and I could go through secret doors. All right. All right. Cool. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, cool. I mean, I think he started taking a Moss based drug. I think you should diversify. Let's start. Let's just start spamming him with other science fiction writers that he should start referencing.

Just like, fuck it. No, there's so much with Philip K. Dick. He's never going to read any real books, but let's just start throwing some inspiration novels at him. No, but you got to understand, like he's only been in a few movies. One is a scanner darkly, which is based on Philip K. Dick's novel. Then you have Waking Life, which was also directed by Richard Linklater. Right. And at the end of it, Richard Linklater appears in the movie himself and gives a speech that references the book, Flow My Tears, The Policeman Said by Philip K. Dick. All of Alex's cinematic life is contingent on Richard Linklater existing. Who's a huge fan of Philip K. Dick and inspires most of his work.

Alex is never leaving the PKD foundation. All right. I don't mind that. All right. I don't mind that, but I do want him to reference the adjustment. Pitch. Pitch. I really want him to adjust. I see. I want him to. Look, Amazon just green-lighted the foundation series. So somebody cast him in that. I want to get some Asimov references in here too. And season three of The Man in the High Castle is coming out. Oh, yeah. Everybody just cast him for like 20 seconds in every sci-fi movie. Yeah, I know. The world that's run by Nazis. Yeah, great. Cast him as himself. He could exist in that world very easily. Yeah. Very excited about that. I think it's an unpopular opinion, but I really like that show. I think people like it.

Okay. I'm projecting onto the world that no one likes that show. I think people just don't watch it. Yeah, that could be. I don't think people dislike it. I think most people are like, you know, there's, it's peak TV. So it's like, I gotta choose. I gotta pick and choose. And then what's her face was in that movie, that series that was based on Jillian Flynn's novel, and Jillian Flynn's a great writer. If you'd never read any of the words she writes. Okay. So that's great. Yikes. Yikes. Yikes. Shot's fired. Shot's fired. I'm tossing out tics. Very excited. I'm a big fan of the, uh, this novel is boring, but then there's a twist ending. So you love it. I mean, I read Goosebumps. So yep. There you go. So like I said, man, Alex is gonna get

even weirder. And here is, oh boy, this is, this is high weirdness, but it's not even close to the depths of where he goes on this episode. Okay. Okay. The planet's real. Our bodies are real, but there is a spirit within us. What? And the globalists know that. So it's not a simulation. And they know our spirit broadcasts, the ideas and thoughts and dreams we have. So they put out evil broadcasts, trying to get us to resonate with that, to then buy into the nightmare, to then manifest hell on earth. Because that's what these demons, these creatures, these marooned spirits want. And that's what the Bible says. That's what every other culture says. And that's what the globalists believe. None of the globalists. And I've run into a lot of them. Hollywood,

you name it. None of them are atheists. They are either Luciferian or Satanist or into the occult, or they believe in the earth being seeded by aliens. And those aliens are dimensionally communicating with them. And they believe that this world population is a sacrifice to ascend to the heavens, aka what we've seen going on with 2001 Space Odyssey. What? And so the Mark of the Beast is here. World government's here. And it's a simulation, but it's not. Sure. But it's been proven. It's all held together artificially by a much more powerful force. And dark energy is here for us to experience consciousness and free will. Because if you're God, the one thing you don't have is something separate from you that's conscious

as its own little universe in its mind. And that's us. That's our spirits, our own little universes. You got cut off by that break. But also, okay, so at the end there, I mean, there's a lot of hot bullshit throughout most of it. The thing I'm most interested in, first of all, is like, it's a simulation that but it's not. Okay, you're saying nothing. Sure. Then the what he's talking about at the end there is like, that's vaguely Gnostic in terms of theme, the idea of God created us because he doesn't have anybody to chill with. Yeah, or about what is the Aldeboath created this as a projection by which he could experience himself from external places. The thing I'm more into because I don't think Alex has read any Gnostic scriptures is I think that Scott Adams

of Dilbert fame and also frequent guest on Alex Jones's show sent him a copy of his 2001 book God's Debris. Really? He put out, though he was known primarily as the creator of Dilbert, Dogbert, Catbert. What else you got? That's it. No, it's gotta get more creative. Wally. He created Wally? No, that was a character who worked at Dilbert's office. Oh, I thought you were talking about the Pixar film. I was like, holy shit, I have to reevaluate him all over. Nope. Just a guy named Wally. Oh, okay. I think I think that was his name. So he wrote a book in 2001 that was a quote thought experiment. Yeah, that I thought was interesting at the time because I would call it a space odyssey. No, although the phrasing what's going on with 2001, a space

odyssey is a very strange way to put things. But so I read that's a Seinfeld joke. I read that when I was 16 or so when it came out as 1617. I smoked a lot of weed and I read it and I thought it was interesting. But the whole like the whole idea of it is that the only thing God could be interested in because he's omnipotent and all that is experiencing a world without himself in it. And so God destroyed himself and we are the debris of God's own destruction. Right. Experiencing each other and God is experiencing what it's like when he doesn't exist and we all interconnect through the internet and what have you and that's our way of trying to bring back the wholeness of what we are the debris of. That's sort of a Cliff Notes version of it.

But there's a lot of thematic connections to what Alex is rambling about there at the end. I think he just read God's debris and thinks it's mind blowing. Do you know I had a I had a synesthesia moment listening to that whole thing. You smelled colors. No. I saw like a Simone Biles floor routine. Like have you like just the rhythm of that and then the surf rock. No. No. No. Just no. She's the greatest gymnast. No. No. No. I thought you meant listening to Alex's clip with the surf rock. No. No. No. No. Like listening to him talk was just him like doing all these weird movements just like holy shit jumping and then he paused and that's when

he leaps and then he dismounts and he's and then he does a little thing like I could see all of those things happen. I did not hear a fucking word he said. It was all rhythm and motion. A hot mess of bullshit. Oh yeah. It looked amazing. And it's only the beginning. It's only the beginning of how weird and I guess synesthetic for you. This is going to get this next clip. I'll say from everything I understand about the human brain and science what he's describing is literally impossible. Okay. I remember when I was a young child right through July was a teenager and I stopped having a dream almost every night I had this dream amongst others. I have lots of dreams every night hundreds and hundreds the whole see

a psychiatrist. A lifetime. Some of them. That's impossible. Whole families, peoples. It just goes on and on. It's incredible. I mean you're scaring me. It's more real than this world. Uh oh. Oh God. Not this. He's in waking life. Come on. Not this. Come on. Those are the crystal visions. I'll keep my visions in myself. I'm going to go back really quick just because I mean it. First of all. Who's to say. He can't. He can't have. You don't have hundreds of dreams in a night. If you have like little fragments of things and whatever and you just you know like later imagine what they might have been. That's possible. You only have a couple of dreams unless you're having a dream within the dream that you're having. Oh that could be.

And then you have another dream within that but what if you dream that you're multiple people within that second dream. Now those two people can dream and if they dream then those two people can have two people's dreams. Then all the dreams are happening all at once. You get a fucking and what's the. Inception. Yeah. Yeah. You're talking about a movie like Alex might. Yeah. Now the other. I mean I'm super into sort of. Except I was doing it on purpose. I'm super into transcendent experiences you can have through like meditating or lucid dreaming. I think there's a lot to be. You can work through in those in those states. I think there's something something to be said for that but I do think it's troubling whenever you hear someone who's a I don't know 45 year

old bigot drunk who's a propagandist getting on air saying who knows if that's more real than this world. Like I don't I don't know about you anymore man. That's you did some shrooms man. You did some shrooms and read God's debris. That's what I'm convinced it's happening but then it gets worse. Listen to this. And those are the crystal visions. I'll keep my vision to see myself as one line from a rock song says it's Fleetwood Mac. But think about that. God is all powerful. God is all encompassing timeless and endless. But then we are independent sentient creatures who are able to have free will or subvert our free will and hand it over to these other fallen

failed creatures that decided not to go through the hierarchy not to ascend to the long arduous process but to do decided to just try to rule their fallen third and second dimension positions. What the fuck third and second dimension positions. I do kind of know what he's talking about and it's crazy nonsense. That's from like Illuminati message boards and shit like that. So if that's not really all that worth getting into. But I would just like to point out that the idea of like you can either have free will or subvert it to these evil forces. What you ascribe is kind of also just the other side of subverting your free will. So like this is really boring. It's really boring. The idea of like yes I am serving a extraterrestrial entity of some sort but I'm

free in doing so. These other people that I don't like are serving another entity but they are trapped in doing the exact same thing as me. It's like just stop. Yeah. If he was saying that to me I think my only reaction would be just like what are you doing right now? What are you doing? What do you think you're doing? What does anybody think is going on here? Alex what are you doing right now? I'll tell you what he's doing is probably trying to prepare himself to go back on Rogan's show because apparently he might be going back on Rogan's show soon. Great. I don't know. There was a post that was put on Facebook. Alex has been of course kicked off Facebook. I didn't do any looking into this but there was an account that was supposedly Alex Jones' and he

said he confirmed that he's going back on Rogan's show soon. Sure. That sounds plausible. True or not it sounds plausible. Yeah when I saw it I was like that's weird but then I started to think about it more. I'm like it's a really good chance that someone just made a fake Alex Jones profile. So I have no idea but if he is going back this is good practice. That is good practice. Really weird on air because you know I'm about to have to do three hours real weird. Yeah. So that leads to this next clip which is man I don't even know what I don't know what to tell you. Like I said I haven't I'm not going to be good at intros on this episode because this next clip is about three and a half minutes long. It's one of the most bizarre things I've ever heard him say in a long

time. It it connotes a completely lost man. Someone who is yeah I think we're there. Someone who is utterly insane and trying to deal with it while doing a radio show which is kind of interesting. It is kind of on some level just as sort of like a psychological study but this goes to some places that are like oh this is this is about you Alex. You're wrestling with yourself. Yeah but he can't know that. He feels it though. He feels it but that's what that's why he's who he is his entire life is suppressing the way he feels about himself and then projecting it on others. But that's why when he gets esoteric like this it starts to creep out a little bit. Yeah. So it's definitely a paranoid schizophrenic. Very possibly. Yeah. Yes but listen to this. And all the studies show

and all the tech heads even admit because I got to tell you metaphysically this is hurting you it's depressing you it's dumbing you down it's destroying your creativity it's it's it's it's sapping you it's draining you. Sounds like what happens when you listen to info wars. You can't help it but then we inject into the matrix here daily trying to reach you and they were arrogant and tried to spit what we said and did and tried to turn it around against us but it didn't work. Nope. So finally they said ban him completely. Send him to the phantom zone and let it be a lesson to all the rest of them. You shut up about the topics Alex Jones covers or we will destroy you. We will tell elaborate lies and frauds about you every day. We will come after your family.

We will bankrupt you. We will destroy you if you don't submit to us. Well that's slavery. Real quick I'm just going to cut in to say like there's so many people on the internet who say the exact same stories that Alex does. There's so many people who like they have not had any consequences that cover the exact same turf as him. He's facing consequences for his literal actions. This is all about him. This is all about Alex on Alex. Yeah and that doesn't intimidate me but the average empty person so scared of death so scared trying to hold on to everything. Be scared because in their spirit they know they've made the wrong decisions but then the system has control of their cerebral cortex and only one small part of their consciousness

and it's saying you fill that fear. You feel that you're not fulfilled. Follow us deeper down the pit. Sounds like you. We will give you fulfillment but you've got to take our hand. Oh my god. They get scared and scared and scared and they say you're scared of Trump. You're scared of Alex Jones. Come deeper with us and they're like I'm even more scared. I know but trust us. So real quick let's just take. Oh my god. Let's just take a quick pause. Oh my god dad. Alex Jones. I'm freaking out. Alex Jones' entire freaking out. His entire business model is largely hey you're scared of Muslims right. You're scared of Muslims. Come with me. Come with me to this website where I give you all the answers about just how bad they really are. Oh my god now you're

here. You're even more scared than you were before and also trans people are terrible. So like that's exactly what his business model is. I know this is scary. That's what the alt-right is. That's the old media. I'm scared. Oh it's good. I'm worried. It's going to get so much worse. I'm genuinely worried about him now. I don't want to be this. I don't want to be concerned. This man's insane. So much worse. Just keep holding on to my hand until everything you are and everything you've ever been is under my control. Give me your consciousness. Give me your creativity. Give me your dreams and your heart and your soul and your fears and everything you are. And we have an Easter sale. And believe as I believe and say as I say and repeat

what I am. Replicate me. Join with my consciousness and subvert yourself to me. Hey everybody please take all of our articles and publish them everywhere. All of our talking points. Be sure you get them out as if they were your own. Believe no one else. And I will give you the stars. I will give you fulfillment. We're winning. We're always winning. If you give me money we win. Trump wants to take you to the stars and has secret healing technologies that he's going to release. I know you follow me long and things only get worse. But that is for only so long. Once you're in the deeper water it will be blessed at the heart of a dead star forever. The cold is so great for eternity. Destroyed. That is their only power is destroying the will

and the consciousness that you are and keeping you from exercising your free will and going through the fear and going through the challenges. And as soon as you do that you're so fulfilled you're like oh my god how did I not see this earlier. And then you want depressed because you're not part of the system. You're depressed because you know you're losing your family. And you're losing people you cared about. And when they look at you and manifest that hatred and that evil it hurts your feelings. Because you care about them and they smile back at you and you watch them through progression go from being depressed sad people to running that demonic smiling jack-o-lantern face. You watch them go from being sad depressed people to posting links to info wars and demonizing groups

they didn't have an opinion on before. Joker face of just I'm in charge and it feels good and I'm doing what I want and I'm in make believe land and whoo yeah they're gone. Their soul was consumed rewritten disease destroyed forever blown out the airlock. They thought they were rising they were falling. That is a fucked up clip. Wow that was a ride. I'm not doing good. No. That one hurt. That was a ride. That one too. That one was a whoo. Yeah. Whoa man that. Wow. I don't believe in Alex's dumb like they have to tell you what they're doing to you in order to do it kind of thing. But if I did I would say that's good evidence. Yeah. You're doing that exactly. Yeah. But man it's so fucked up. The very one to one parallels

of his sick and again he's getting real close to ASMR Alex there doing that. I know that was actually kind of fun though. I enjoyed that. Just lose your creativity in the deep water and the dead stars destroyed. I want him to read. I want him to read audiobooks in ASMR. That would be amazing. Alex. Alex Jones like legitimately if he needs a late career change the truth universally acknowledged that a man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife. If he needs a late career change I think he has all the makings of the hackiest science fiction writer of all time. Oh yeah. I think he could he could pivot pretty easily into some some real bad derivative science fiction right now he would have to

dictate it to Buckley. Yeah. Buckley get on that typewriter. Buckley stop fucking around on those 808s. I stole it from JD Salinger's grave. Buckley I know you got another acid mix to make but I need you to do some dictation. I put it out on our Twitter if you haven't seen it you should check out Buckley Hammond his music he's a good DJ. They're the only actually talented people in the entire Info Wars operation. It's kind of interesting that everybody in Info Wars studios is just watching that right. Like they're just there. Oh yeah. Just like looking at that going like oh boy. No one's stopping him. No one is stopping him. That's what's weird. Like you would think

that your empathy would override the show or something. I know right. Hey Alex you gotta take you gotta take a five. Yeah. We have more special reports we can run. You gotta get your shit together. Alex we genuinely believe the bullshit you're peddling. Yeah. And even we can see how bad you're projecting right now and we gotta get you some help man. Look you're not on YouTube anymore. I know you feel a little more free to like just let your freak flag fly but this is being recorded. So reel it in. Now admittedly Alex really only Dan Friesen is listening to it at this point. So maybe the case. At least with a critical eye. But look that all that shit's all weird as hell and we can

feel whatever way we want to feel about it. Weird. And we're right to feel whatever way we want to feel about it. We feel weird. But I will say that this next clip takes a little bit of the edge off because it gives us a real weird glimpse into how Alex Jones is now spending his evenings. Okay. If I have to call people and send them stuff by courier I will and guess what when I do it personally it's much better than me just on there talking about it. So now more and more I'm going home at night after the kids go to bed but like eight nine o'clock or I'm letting them watch a movie and I go into my office and I got 10 people every night I call different people and I call them and I have a talk with them.

And I say you got 600 radio stations. I really need you to do this for yourself and your family. You got 500 radio stations. You got 300 radio stations. You're a congressman. Do what you need to do. Why can't you see this? Well they're big tech. They've got a lot of money and I'm not sure you know really. You got the one that's got to do it. Do it. The games are over. And if I got to step into the leadership role here when nobody else will I'm just trying to like warn people like Paul Revere and then no one wants to become George Washington. Well if I got to be George Washington I will. But we got to George Washington don't we. He's called Donald John Trump. No. So I need Paul Revere's to get the message out and I love you

and I appreciate you. That said our problems are basically solved if you flood us with money. There it is. Love it. Alex. Bada bing. What's our number again Dan? 530 neon nip. Alex. We are around at eight nine o'clock. Please give us a call. Yeah. We know you're here. We'll help you. We will. We'll talk you down from this. Jesus. I love the picture though that like when his kids are just trying to watch like I don't know Moana. He wouldn't let her watch Moana. No. No. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. It's just birth of a nation on repeat. Song of the South. David Knight gave him their copy of Song of the South. Oh no. So the kids are watching Song of the South. Alex slips away to the office to harass radio hosts and tell them

they're not doing their job. Yeah. And by the way those numbers that he's using are pretty high. Like the idea of who is on that number of stations. Hannity. That's it. Yeah. Hannity. Glenn Beck. Rush Limbaugh. Coast to coast AM. Yeah. And maybe someone like a Hugh Hewitt or there's a couple other people who like fly under our radar quite a bit. Right. But those are like there's a it's a rarefied air. People who are on 500 plus radio stations. It's only a few people. He's just calling the entire cast of a Prairie Comb companion. He is not on the station. He ran into a little trouble. Oh I can't think of why. Well it's because people don't like down home values. Oh that is probably because of all the down home values he's espoused about how dark energy is controlling the universe.

And that's what God is. You know down home country values. Dan people are generally scared of people who harken back to a time and a place when women were good looking. All the men are above average. All the propagandists angry and shirtless. It took me fucking years as a kid to figure out that Lake Wobe gone. Wasn't a real place. Woe be gone. Oh yeah. For fucking ever to understand. Oh really. That was a portmanteau. Yeah. I wasn't all that smart growing up. Anyway. Oh that would be so crazy if Garrison Keeler showed up on Alex's. Is he dead. No he's not dead. No he's not dead. I thought he might have died right after he got to those allegations. Yeah that's what I was saying. Did he get slapped some some shit that he almost certainly did. Yeah there was some some some dirty

behavior on his part. Oh what a man in power. Come on. No Dan. Say it ain't so. Don't say it ain't that every time you give a man a position of authority then he surrounds himself with women. He doesn't absolutely sexually harass them 85 percent of the time or whatever it is. Come on Dan. That's crazy. Men run the world. We wouldn't allow that to happen. I look forward to Garrison Keeler showing up at the comedy cellar in order to do some live hot take. He's going to do a drop in radio theater. Yeah. A long form theater of the mind performance at the comedy cellar. I'm dropping in. Damn what a fucked up world we live in. Oh man why even burn it down. Yeah burn it down. Do we even need it anymore. Comedy cellar probably not the world. Yeah probably not on that

as well. Oh well. Hey man don't worry about it. Dan stand up comedy isn't a great place. Everybody knows that. It's great. We've seen Alex be very weird on this episode. He's getting esoteric. He's getting up into his weird seventh dimensional light beings kind of in the eye of the beholder Dan. I feel like what's been going on here is it's just standard radio fare. Is this a simulation or not or both or neither. Who knows. All of the above. Yes. Hello is total recall reality. Maybe I'm not sure what's been going on with 2001 a space Odyssey. You all know and why don't they make the whole ship out of the black box. Right. We're very close to that level of thinking on his part. Yep. But now we get into what I would say is like much more problematic and troubling because

this isn't weird. This is hateful. This is yeah kind of in fucked up and it's demonstrative of why he is not the person to talk about certain things in society. Let's say. Oh no. This is bad. So they think you're a bunch of idiots in Congress. They think my listeners are idiots. They think we're not idiots. We're not idiots. Zuckerberg. Yes you are. And we're sick of it. I agree with that. And I'm tired of you lying about what I said and what I did. Their favorite thing is I'm transphobic. You are. I'm a libertarian. I'm not against anybody as long as they're not hurting kids. What you want to do in your own life. You do. Everyone knows that's what I've always said it's who I am. They have headlines all over the place. Jones hates the LGBT Jones. And you know

what I've noticed. I'm going to do a special report on this and maybe even a documentary. You won't. It's when I criticize pedophilia and the Catholic Church and sexualization of kids by any group heterosexual homosexual I get called homophobic by these publications. And so what they're really saying is the core of the LGBT is run by the P LGBT, LGBT, lesbian, gay, bi, trans. And then you had to pee at the end. So he just demonstrated the queue at the end. Sure. Not what or the two cues for your question. Did he just did he just exemplify everyone's argument against him in the same sentence? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Big time. I don't know if I've ever heard anybody

damn themselves so directly. I mean, it's it's so demonstrative. Like it's that's incredible. It's literally him being like they always say that I do this thing I'm doing right now. Yeah, it's bananas. Crazy. Look, I don't care what anybody does. I am just saying that, you know, whenever I criticize pedophiles, whomever they are, I'm just saying that the entire LGBTQ community is run by pedophiles. I don't get why there's a problem here. Well, come on, man. Well, because there's a there's a weird Venn diagram situation going on where like, when he talks about pedophiles, he's not always talking about the LGBT community. If when he talks about the LGBT community, he's pretty much always weaving in pedophilia to it tends to. So

the issue is I mean, we've seen this 100 times when we've been as we've been doing this show, there's so many times that he just like exactly what he did there. He's saying that like, oh, well, that must mean that the community is run by the P. You know, like, that is an unnecessary step for him to take. And it's not the conclusion that he's coming to from innocent coverage of other things. It's because every time he covers any of these issues, he's like, he can't resist the urge to be like, what they're really doing is trying to fuck our kids. Yeah, I know. And it's bananas. But that's why people are offended by it. If you like, if you're just making valid criticisms of the Catholic Church, have that, I think we're all pretty much there now. It took a

long time. It took a long time, right? It took 50 to 100 to, I don't know, all of the church's existence for everybody to kind of be like, Oh, yeah, they're a bunch of fucking pedophile rapists. And the Pope knows about it. But man, you shouldn't just figure out where to put the period in a sentence, Alex. Just put just figure it out. You know, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a libertarian. And I think everybody should be able to do what they want to do. Period. And then skip the last part. Because then the last part is you being like, and also I'm justifying why everybody's saying this about me. Also, he's not a libertarian. No, of course not. But no, he's a Nazi. And he doesn't believe any of the like, standard libertarian ideas. He just thinks he does. Right.

But like, I don't know what else to say other than what we've already said. Like in that clip, he's embodying why people come down on him when he talks about these things. It's because what he, I guess he uses the term anchor, you know, all the time, he's trying to anchor the idea of pedophilia and LGBT identity. Like he's trying to conflate the two things. And that's what he always does. You've seen it over and over again. It's, it there's, I mean, I don't want to say that he hates every single gay person in the world, but it's hard not to feel that way based on his rhetoric. Hey, I don't care whether you're Christian or Muslim or Jewish or are there others. But I am just saying that all Muslims are run by murdering pedophiles and I don't get why people

think I'm Islamophobic. Yeah. It's tough to see why. Good work, Alex. Tough to see why that connection might be made. Oh boy. So his show sucks. He's a dick. And he's a weirdo, like just the weird rambling esoteric nonsense leading into this very clear transphobia that he's trying to use to defend himself against allegations of transphobia. And yet at the same, like even then, it's allegations of transphobia hypocrisy in that he's, he's enjoying. Well, we'll get to that in a minute. But, but, but then even, even then, like he, he could have just stuck with the transphobia stuff. And instead, he just roped everybody in with it. Oh, people are saying I'm transphobic. But in reality, what I hate is everyone in the LGBTQ community because they're all pedophiles.

What are you doing? All monsters. Hey, you guys didn't make me seem bad enough. Yeah. No, right? Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Just don't spell. Just don't spell my name wrong. It's that kind of thing. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Call me whatever you want. Yeah. Make sure you know how hateful I am. Yeah. So he's running a real terrible show and it's really interesting to see who will still go on it. Cause Oh, there's somebody goes on. Well, I mean, we had Ann Coulter was just on the other day, which is really fucked up because Alex has spent months talking about how much she sucks. Yeah. She's a demon. Well, also because she was one of the famous conservatives who turned on Trump and was like, he's not doing a good job. Hey, Ann Coulter, you can go to hell. You pile

her bag and sack of skeleton. I bet. I bet. And now I'm going to go on board. I'm going to go way out on a limb and I'm going to say he probably insulted her appearance. Yeah, he did. Definitely. And now I guess she's back on Trump's team. And so he's like, all right, I'll have her back on the show. She's willing to come on. Hooray. So she was on the other day. Daryl Hamamoto was on the other day, my dude. No shit. Yeah. All right. I'm liking a world where instead of anybody else, it's just Alex and Daryl co-hosted. He has the time for it. Yeah. Right. Also, I looked into it. Daryl Hamamoto update. Is that our new corner? Yep. Okay. So my favorite crazy Daryl Hamamoto,

yeah, former Asian studies professor, Vanguard researcher on the topic of desecralization of Asian males in American culture. Right. Very interesting research lost his mind at some point and started rambling about the new world order. Yeah. So we reported on this show that he had been fired by the UC Davis because he is no longer working at UC Davis. I bet he has a different position, Dan. I think he got forced into retirement because he's listed in there. I found their like announcements of 2017, 2018 retirees and I would say a lot of them have much longer 10 years than him. They'd been there many more. He was there for 22 years as a professor. Yeah. A lot of them were in the 40s of years and you know, there's no reason why he'd retire except for like dude.

Go away. Yeah. We'll get, we'll cut you a deal. So that's the secret of 2017. It could be. So Hamamoto, it appears was not fired, but probably accepted some sort of a deal to go into retirement. But also recently. A golden parachute. Also recently he was on Alex Jones' show. And also on the war room that went a little bit viral, he was saying that there was a wave weather control weapon that was shot from Antarctica that split a hurricane. And he speculated that when John Kerry visited Antarctica a couple years back, he was going to check on those weather weapons and did not speculate it so much as he was saying, yeah, that's what happened. So this has been the Daryl Hamamoto update. I missed that guy.

Okay. All right. All right. He's so crazy. Weather weapon. That split a hurricane. Oh man. It didn't end a hurricane. It just split it. I was reading a bunch of like his students' reviews because UC Davis allows students to post reviews of their professors. Right. And they were all just like, this guy is a fucking prick. And also there was a weird theme of, hey, he explains in class that he's a reverse racist. So if you're not Asian, you're going to have a bad time in this class. Like, oh, you know what? Sure. I'm fine with that. Whatever. Whatever. Hamamoto. So he's not the person who's on this episode though.

You're the one who didn't Google Daryl Hamamoto before you took his class. That's a cursory Google. It's kind of on you, student. Yeah. So he's not the one who's on this episode, but there's someone else who's still willing to go and show up for Alex Jones's show. Ben Garrison is our guest riding shotgun with collars. So Ben Garrison, my dude, he's the guest. Great. If you don't remember, Ben Garrison is the guy who does political cartoons that are over-labeled. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Way too many labels. You know what I like? Very, very amateurish, hacky. My, you know, a lot of acting teachers will say to you, I've never actually taken an acting class, but I assume this is true. They'll say to you, acting is internal. Acting is about a subtlety.

And to me, Ben Garrison is the comic strip corollary of that. That is a man. Who maintains subtlety as an art form. Well, you know, he just transforms and then really even transcends the art form. In the, in the world of speech, they say that brevity is the soul of wit. Right. And he is the visual analog of that aphorism. They say a picture is worth a thousand words. So long as you write a thousand words on that picture. No, the expression Ben Garrison's word is a world is a picture equals a thousand words. He's slightly misinterpreted that a picture requires a thousand words. Also, his fucking cartoons are generally like really get close to racist. And then also beyond that, I would, I would say that he's kind of living proof

that censorship doesn't exist of conservatives. Yeah, because the only reason he is at all popular is because of pretty reactionary, really fucked up political cartoons that he's drawn supporting Trump. His entire career is based on the fact that no one is censoring him. And that the people agree with what he says, enjoy a cartoon that doesn't force them to think about it for even one second. Fuck visual metaphors. I just want a cartoon to look like the words I say. That's it. I want it to be labeled. I want it to be codified. I want to make sure that even if for even one second, I never feel the fear of am I going to figure this out? Have you ever seen the back of a cereal box dance? Sometimes they ask you to find the differences between two pictures

and I can't and it makes me feel inferior. I wish Ben Garrison would just point them out for me on the back of a cereal box. So we have a Facebook group called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant. And from time to time, people will post Ben Garrison cartoons in it. And every single time I have to wrestle with, and I don't usually wrestle, I don't usually have this thought is like, this has got to be fake. You know, like, I can never tell if it's a joke. Yeah, I legitimately like there have been a couple that have been fake Ben Garrison cartoons, and I can't tell. I legitimately tell the difference. How could you? How could you? He is self parody. He has like, you know how some people have singular styles? Yeah, he has the opposite.

No, no, no. It's a style that's universal style. It's very easy. Yeah. But so he still sees fit to show up on Alex's show. And I'll say that we're not going to listen to a ton of his appearance. But I think he has a really shaky idea of what free speech means or reality or any. I don't want to judge him on those terms. That's Alex's playground. Sure. He just seems to not really understand what censorship or free speech has to do with. None of them do. None of them understand a goddamn fucking thing. But I'm glad that free speech exists for one reason and one reason only. And that is this next clip, where Alex Jones does, look, we've critiqued his Cuomo, we've critiqued his Bernie Sanders impression. They're the same. We've critiqued his Dracula

Soros impression. Right. Right. It was the last one. He did another one. I can't remember. We've critiqued it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We've seen him try and pull out his his his bag of tricks. You know, the weirdest one was his John Madden. True. It was all high pitched. And he wasn't trying to sell me fungus spray. Here's a guy. Boom. So this impression, I will say we'll live on as like the least accurate impression. Okay. Bernie Sanders is pretty far off. This one Bernie Sanders is offensive to the mentally handicapped. Right. And it and I will say for that reason, it's much more offensive than this impression. Right. But this one isn't like, this one isn't even, Bernie isn't in the ballpark.

Okay. This isn't in the same state. Stop selling. Stop selling me. I gotta hear this. You know, it's banned in China. Google's helped build a censorship search engine there. I'm not liking where this starter is. Winnie the Pooh. For whatever the reasons, I guess the way he talks in Chinese sounds like, hello, Mr. Christopher Waban. I guess he lives in the Chinese. And so the Chinese think it's funny, Christopher Waban. And so they're not allowed to make jokes about it. See how that works. You don't talk about it. He's a very important person in the 100 acre wood. What is happening? Does he think that's what Winnie the Pooh sounds like?

Somehow that sounds more like a racist Kermit the Frog. What just happened there? There is an offensive Chinese thing. Oh, there's absolutely an offensive Chinese thing. There's not even a kernel of Winnie the Pooh in there. Do you know how bad that was? I immediately forgot how Winnie the Pooh actually sounds. I can hear it in my head. Oh, bother. And then he was gone. Yeah. Oh, bother. There's a light. There's a lilt. There's a lilt to it. There is a mopeiness. There's a mopeiness. But there's also a slightly, it's not a British accent, but there's a slight Britishness to it. What was it? It's like the thing that makes it, the thing that makes it distinct though is that

there is that light scratch. There's that light scratch on it where it's almost like, oh God, I can hear it in my head now perfectly. I can hear it perfectly and I can never recreate it. Now, this is the time when I should say full disclosure. Yes. I played Winnie the Pooh in a fire prevention skit when I was in seventh grade. I had to do some studying of Winnie the Pooh voice and I'll say, if I showed up and did that, I would have been fucking fired from that drama club. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, for sure. Well, I mean, if it was all Chinese immigrants doing the play, then I really think they would have been right to fire you for that one. Sure. I just think anybody does, does he sound like that? I don't know what Xi Jinping sounds like. It

doesn't sound like that. That wasn't accurate. No, I mean, that wasn't accurate for Winnie the Pooh. It was just, that was Alex just doing. Yeah, that was him. That was him somehow doing, like he might as well have said Ching Chong Bing Bong while he was doing it. He's not Jesse Waters. Yeah. But like legitimately, I think what happened is probably like, he said Winnie the Pooh and he's like, I'm gonna go for it. And then he started and he was like, terrible idea. Can't stop now. Got to power through this. Can't show ass. Got to soldier through. Exactly. And that's the way you hear him get to 100 Acre Woods. You're closer to Yoda. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. What are you doing? Yeah. Anyway,

oh man, I told you that we're not going to hear much from Ben Garrison, but I do think it's appropriate that we hear a little bit from him. I'm going to need you to label everything he says, though. If we were on SoundCloud, I would just post a bunch of comments right around this point. No, I would just say like every, after every word he says, I want you to say another word that explains the words that he's saying. I can't do that, but I can't explain it afterwards. Okay. Can you label it? These companies, they are such villains. Well, they certainly are. And, you know, we saw this last year start when they ban Andrew Anglin in his daily stormer site. Now, I despise Andrew Anglin. This is a picture of a storm.

Like Nazis, and most Americans don't. So they started with an easy target. Okay. We're not going to allow him to pay access to the power. We're not going to have, we're going to take a site off a go daddy. We're going to, we're going to harass him, kick him off everywhere we find. This is the whole crux of the matter. We have to protect even unpopular speech. I don't think, I think he should pay the consequences if he's doing things illegally. $100 bill. If he is just having fun with his, you know, he has a right to his free speech, just like let him have his free speech, because now what they're doing, since they successfully got rid of all the Nazis, they're starting to label

conservatives of Nazis. And then we get kicked off too. That's their plan. Well, that's been the admitted plan. So the problem that I have here is the understanding of free speech. I think I could draw what he just said into a perfect Ben Garrison cartoon. Look, Daily Stormer got kicked off of, you know, like PayPal and go daddy. Do you mean a giant cumulonimbus cloud with a calendar on it? Exactly. Yes, they didn't have their free speech in any way violated. These businesses were like, Oh, shit, let's not help Nazis raise funds to harass Jews. And then the business made a decision. We don't want to be a part of that. That's not free speech being infringed upon. No, that's that's a company being slightly

better than Ford Motors. Now, I agree with what he's saying. In principle, the idea of like you have to protect even abhorrent speech. But that's when the state is saying you can't say those things. That's not when companies are saying, Hey, you represent something we are absolutely against. So no, get off our fucking thing. We have the right to say we don't want to do business with you. But if these guys understood a goddamn like this is one, this is one situation where I am going to put them all on the stupid continuum, as opposed to the when we're talking about the stupid, the evil continuum, I think they're protecting themselves. I don't think so. I think they're fucking stupid. I think they just don't understand that because that's like the same way Alex Jones

thinks that the First Amendment rules apply in fucking England or whatever. Yeah, he they just don't fucking know they think it's some sort of biblical scripture. And they don't understand that it's a it's like a thing. It kind of like works with that grandiosity, you know, like one of the parts of like having grandiose delusions is that you think that all of the world should treat you the same everywhere you go. Yeah, like I deserve. So yeah, I agree with you to some extent, but I also think that it's it's a calculation on their part because they realize like, fuck, their behavior got them kicked off of these things that we need in order to make the money that we scam off people. Right. We are probably the next in the crosshairs because let's be clear,

we've done some pretty bad, like not illegal stuff, but we've done stuff that's obviously distasteful to most people's sensibilities. Right. So of course, we're going to turn this into a thing where we misrepresent what the what free speech means. Like I don't I don't like that's why the present day I think is such a stupid fucking show is because I think the present day is a stupid fucking life. Well, but but it's particularly with Alex Jones and his free speech martyrdom campaign that he's going on. Like it's not it. It's it doesn't I know that we're someone who liked Alex Jones to listen to the show. They would probably be like, Hey, why aren't you wrestling with this thing you saying about being kicked off of stuff? And by response to that would be what I

say a lot of the time, which is I dispute the premise. I don't care. I don't I reject that as an idea. If he had his free speech taken away by the state, right? Yeah. Like if the state was saying shut down Alex Jones and they were actually doing that. Oh, do you mean like if the president, in fact, came out and said that a private company should do this in order to force someone to stop doing something and then turned it into a law or further if those companies if Alex could like legitimately prove that they were all working together against him like the NFL against Colin Kaepernick, right? Oh, shit, that case is still going through. So like if you could prove those things, it would be a different conversation, but he needs to prove those things in any way before

it's a valid argument on free speech grounds. Right now it's just an asshole getting his druthers. It's what he's getting what he deserves. That's it. It's not interesting to me even as a conversation. It's just just like, Hey, sucks to be you, but that's because you had you became a millionaire by being a dick. Yeah, that's what happens. Sometimes the game doesn't last forever. I would say almost all the time the game doesn't last forever. Sometimes it's a real cool ride and eventually they even got Dennis Hester and he was protected for 40 years. Right? Yeah. Yep. It comes for you. Anyway, Alex, Jesus, but these fucking guys, he hides behind like his perception of himself as a libertarian. He hides behind this idea that everyone just do whatever

you want. He believes he's a libertarian. Right. I genuinely believe that he believes, right? He's not because he doesn't understand it at all. But that's because I think that he just, I don't know. It's hard to say, but I think he got into the Birch Society when he was younger, John Birch Society. I think he fell in love with Ron Paul at some point and quite frankly, I think that has less to do with politics and more with identity. Racism. Yeah. And I think that because Ron Paul probably identified more libertarian, that just became like, Oh, whatever Ron Paul believes, that's what libertarian is. And that, I don't know. I also don't think that you'd ever be able to find five libertarians ever that believe the same thing. You know what I'm saying? Right.

Like I think that if you have more than three libertarians in a room, you will have a disagreement. That's my, that's my... Is that your ancient Chinese aphorism? Yeah. I think that's an axiomatic statement. They don't agree on anything except that they're not fucking Republicans. All they agree on. Yeah. But that's because they're... What it is, is an identity that's like, well, we just don't want to call ourselves Nazis. Right. We recognize that Republicans are Nazis and we don't want to call ourselves that. Right. It's more just like... I don't know. How would I put this? It's more like there's this sort of high school mentality of needing to define yourself as something other. In opposition to something. Right. Right. So even if you are

mostly just like, I believe everything that Republicans believe, you've got to choose some other thing if you want to feel cool. Right. Then you can't be like, maybe, maybe you like pop music, but you can't identify as that. You gotta be like, well, actually, I'm... They can't positively identify themselves. So they have to negatively identify themselves. Yes. They can't articulate something they believe. They can only articulate things that they don't believe. They need to exist in opposition. Yes. I think that's a good way to put it. Yeah. But Alex Jones in this next clip, I think, makes pretty fucking clear that he's nowhere near any kind of legitimate libertarian belief. This is ludicrous. So we need the First Amendment Act for the internet. That's what it's

called. The First Amendment Act saying unless it's illegal, like anything else, you don't have regulatory power over it. And it's a third party posting. You can have your terms of service and remove it, but only for reasons that violate law. You can't then interpret and project onto it. Whatever you want that if Alex Jones says, I don't want transsexuals teaching three-year-olds that they're different sex, that is sexualizing children. Not that I hate men in drag and clown outfits. That's what it is. What? It's that I don't want heterosexuals, homosexuals, anybody, sexualizing kids. They go, oh, you don't like transsexuals? No. No, I'm a libertarian. Okay. I don't like you involved with the kids. Stop it. So they change the subject. So and then they go,

oh, you're off Twitter, you're off Facebook. You bullied transsexuals because they're public figures, but they're so special and protective. They get access to your children. So then I ask, is it LGBTQ? Because, you know, every time I say, leave the kids alone, stop sexualizing them, buy heterosexuals, the Catholic church, any of these groups, they say, oh, you're being LGBT, phobic. Well, yeah, if you're adults doing things in your own bedroom, I'm not phobic. Okay, give me a break. And it's an obsession that you think I'm obsessed with what you're doing your bedroom. It's boring. The point is, is that it's the sexualization of children. So they change the subject. Do you see what I'm saying? No, you just don't cross dressers or people, you know, trans people,

they're clowns. They're clowns. They're clowns. They're wearing clown outfits. Yeah. Yeah. I don't understand why people would take that as a transphobic thing to say. He can't stop himself. I'm just saying that every part of what it is you are is a clown. Legitimately, when he's trying to defend himself in his speech of like, well, isn't it crazy that they think that I'm some kind of an asshole about this stuff? He is an asshole about it. And also, as a libertarian, I want them to write a law regulating everybody else's speech to give me free reign to do whatever it is I want. Now, we need to, you know, like a libertarian, you need to unpack that quite a bit more, because the other stuff we can just like Alex, just own your transport. Yeah, just be that way.

And own your homophobia. You're a racist, homophobic, fucking absolute bigot. You're a bigot. Well, yeah, absolutely. And it is the same thing of like, he's scared to see Muslim women at the pool shop, right? But he's fine if they're Muslim women at home or something like that. Did you read the op-ed in the, I think it was the Wall Street Journal? No. There was this one. I don't even know. I don't need specifics. I did not read it. Okay. There is this person. Let's not call them a writer. Let's call them just a person. One with a pen. Who went to London and wrote this hugely Islamophobic piece that was like, and so when I was a kid, I went there and I saw somebody in a niqab and I was terrified.

I saw someone tweet about this, but I was like, I'm not clicking on that. Yeah, no, it's such like, or like, no, the word, my favorite part, my favorite part was it was like, and then I saw a sign that said no alcohol allowed here. And I was like, well, this must be the Muslims. And then you're like, dude, London allows alcohol everywhere except for places where assholes are. That has nothing to do with any religion and everything to do with assholes. You unlike in America, most places are like New Orleans where you can just walk around with beer wherever you want. And there's only specific zones where people have committed active violence is a lot. So fucking stupid. Amazing. And then people are just going to

believe that shit as though that's a justification for their Islamophobia. It's bananas. Right. I mean, that reminds me of that Lauren Southern clip that you posted not too long ago, where she was talking to people in like a Muslim area. And it's like, Hey, well, there's a, you know, like, yeah, there's a, there's a Arabic restaurant right here. But where is there a, where is there a British restaurant? And the person was like, Oh, it's just right down the block. Yeah. There's a pub. It's a corner. Yeah. No, around the corner. So it's like, Oh, whoops. Yeah. Because the well, that's always fall apart. It's like, if anyone who has the information can answer the question. Yeah. And that's generally why they write an op-ed because

there's no, because there's no, there's nobody who's like, or, or they just use like people selectively that they talk to who are probably don't have the answers that they, you know, you say it. It's almost like they're constructing a narrative that has nothing to do with reality in order to make people afraid of something. And then they'll believe the rest of the dumb shit that they say. It's very similar. That's, I, I know, what? Anders Bravik. Huh? No, I can't think of anything like that. So it's a completely new phenomenon. We need to unpack this regulation thing a little bit more though. I really need to, because it's very important. So Alex is anti regulation as a rule, but he wants regulation on the internet as a free speech act in order to

make it so they could not be any regulation on the internet. So you want to hold on. Hold on. A first amendment act. Sorry. That's just a fun name for an act. Right. It's stupid. The first amendment act, you know, one like the first amendment, but it's, it's for me only. So we're creating regulation in order to make it so these people can't have regulations that govern what they will or will not accept in terms of internet behavior. I don't know what to say. So the problem with that, I can see no problem. Well, I mean, obviously it would apply to anybody. It would apply to like, if you have a blog and someone leaves a comment that you don't like, you can't kick them off unless they commit a crime. You see, there, you just, you just proved your,

you proved how great that act is. You don't have control over your own space on the internet that you created. Yeah, of course not. You shouldn't. No. And hey, let's say, I mean, we have knowledgefight.com and a lot of people have left some really fucked up comments that I haven't erased and I've written responses to. Oh, no shit. I haven't read any. Can I, I want to read something. I'll send you the link. Okay. The article that I wrote about George Soros particularly has gotten a lot of really fucking stupid people. I can't imagine why. And then what I do is I take the points that they're making and I write like, well, here's why that's wrong. And I, you know, hey, he's not the best person in the world. He's absolutely a billionaire and that's suspicious. But the specific points

that you're bringing up are lies that are based on stupid globalist propaganda, you know, all that shit. Dan, you need to take a page out of the Atlantic and really trying to understand these people. And, and you know what, you don't want to treat them like what they're saying is wrong. Jordan, you're missing the point. Sorry. So I engage with all that on the website. But at the same time, there are a bunch of times that we get spam comments from like buy shoes for $25 or whatever. Right. That's not illegal. Now I can't erase that from the website. I can't clean up our comment section. That's not a crime for them to advertise in our comment section. Or now we need a regulation saying that it is a crime for you to advertise in the comment section in order for

you to clean up spam comments that come in. You understand the, the, the problematic territory he's entering into in terms of, Hey, no regulations on the internet. You can say whatever you want. You know what? Normally I facetiously buck against you and take the, the wrong side as a, as a joke. But nah, that's dumb, dude. Well, but that's even like, that's totally stupid, bro. That's only the simplest reason why it's fucking stupid. Oh, no, no, no, no, don't don't worry. Like reasons of a harassment sometimes is a murky area of whether it's legal or not, but you shouldn't fucking do it. And you should be punished for it. Because decorum should exist. Like there's much better arguments than spam comments, but just that one simple thing. Like, Hey, Alex, now you need to

create the free speech act, the first amendment act with a caveat that I can erase spam on like sunglasses, or whatever. No, I'm, I'm leaning now more towards like, especially after today, just, just the barrage of stupidity that the internet gave me today. I, I'm just like, you know what? I am for Trump's EPA. I want them to deregulate all CO2 emissions. I want everything to be in the atmosphere because you know what's really going to happen when that happens? Everybody's going to die, except a few billionaires. They're going to have their, their castles or whatever. Or if you believe that. But guess what? We are all going to go to their fucking castles and we're going to murder them and we're going to live in them. So humanity gets what it gets.

We have it coming to us, but like a hundred of us are going to live in Peter Teal's fucking island and we're going to eat the Peter Teal bones. We're going to make, we're going to make fucking soup out of him. I know there's not a lot of calories in it. There's still chicken that's going to exist. No, no, but, but that'll be fine. We can get to that later. We should transition to a vegetarian diet. First, we have to put Peter Teal's head on a goddamn spike. And then it's Lord of the Flies. Exactly like Lord of the Flies. Why are we Lord of the Flies? Because we're better than that. Are we? Yeah. And that was based on the Stanford Prison Experiment, which has actually been debunked. So that is a fun piece of literature, but also doesn't necessarily depict the behavior that

people, once again, as we've, as we've stated previously, in any kind of crisis, generally, most people come together and try and help each other. And actually, in this episode, Alex does say 10 days after anything, most people become cannibals. So he says it on this episode, this very episode. I didn't pull a clip of it because it's like he says it all the time. But on this, on this ride that we've been on, I don't need to bring up again how weird he's been, the esoteric nonsense. But he's twice tried to talk about how he's not against trans people. And in doing so, has been very much trying to conflate the ideas of queer identities with pedophilia. He's been very explicit about being against transphobic,

being against trans people. Right. So I don't, I don't want to talk about that too much. Because who cares? Right. And I don't mean who cares in a way that is dismissive of the feelings of people who are hurt by that, because I do understand that you could, you know, trans identifying people would probably be like, Hey, motherfucker, your rhetoric is so dehumanizing about us. And now you want to use us as a way to get your jollies. You know, that sort of thing. I don't want to take away from that. I respect that position. That's not an argument I can make. That's for them to make. And I back them up 100%. The only thing that I care about, first of all, is that he clearly was looking at porn on a phone that he's using

at work, which is very unprofessional. I think it's, I think it's at least unprofessional. I think that there's that. It's sexual harassment in just about every workplace. And then we get to the bigger issue, I think, which brings us to our last clip. And that is that because everyone posted about all this, and it doesn't really hurt him all that much, he's going to use that to his benefit. No. Because if it happens on my phone, it just magically gets out everywhere. I'm thinking about doing a trolling operation where Soros text messages me, good job, Jones, keep it up. And like a split second of it being seen, it's like top news story all over the world. I'm saying that because I'm going to do that troll. And people are going to believe it, that I'm going to be able to

go back to this and point it out. I'm going to do one with Trump too. I'm going to wait like a month or something though. I'm going to troll the hell out of it. Go back to Ben Garrison and phone calls her in a moment. Great work. Great work, dude. This is what I, this is like another perfect example of when, you know, much earlier in this show, I was saying like, hey, it's that Bonnie Ver song is really fun. I'm glad everyone's having a fun time with it. But you need to realize how propagandists will use the response that you give to them for their benefit. Now, I don't think Alex is going to follow through with this, but that's his way of reclaiming this embarrassing moment in his life and trying to turn it into something like, I'm going to, oh, look, look,

how much press I got out of that. I'm going to fucking, you know, he claims that it's just like, oh, it was a pop-up. It wasn't a pop-up. It was an X video scream that the screen, that's not, that's not where pop-ups go. No, pop-ups go to like a Sheehan. Mike Sheehan. No, no, no, like the, the store. They go, they go to specific places that'll either give you a virus or they go to places that are trying to sell you something. Oh shit, did you know that you, you were the thousandth visitor to this and you get a free app download? Oh my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you need to go visit the site and then you'll get a free app download. That's what pop-ups do. Yeah. So, but he's trying to use that to reclaim it and trying to turn it into like, oh, I'm going to fuck with

people even more. And the implicit piece of that is that maybe I was fucking with him that time when he wasn't. No, but he's good. He's slick. He's a good propagandist. So we've come to the end of this and the only things that I can really take away are he's in a weird mood. Yeah. Yeah. Little bit. No one in his little bit. No one in his world really understands the issues that they're talking about. Nope. And then man, he should just not touch like gay issues or LGBT issues at all. He can't resist making it bad. You know what I mean? Like he just can't. That's because he is. I think that there are like the stories that he wants to cover. Some of them have like blagues and people do a better job. Like we were talking about the Catholic church.

That's not a gay or trans issue. That is a that's a fucking church issue. That's a dude. That's a dude issue. Once again. That's a pedophilia issue. Dudes. Yeah. But so there's people who can cover that much better because it seems like every time he does, he drifts into real bigotry and he demonstrates it so fucking clearly. It's nuts. I hate this in the present. I really do. You're democking me for not being effervescent earlier in the show. And the reason is because I just got done listening to and chopping this up. It sucks. I know this show is bad. I know. I'm not trying to be. Look, I got a job to do. You got a job to do. Mine is infinitely, infinitely easier. I'm just I'm just here. No, I appreciate it. Trying. God damn it. Dude, this is

Oh, bigger issue. What's that? His Winnie the Pooh impressions terrible. He's Winnie the Pro. Oh, man. So I don't want to keep covering the present. I know that I keep choosing to. There's a sick fascination that's like, is it gonna be? What's it gonna be like? You know, it's that it's that, um, it's that Schrodinger's podcast or whatever, you know, like maybe it's the craziest thing ever. Or you observe it. You, you cannot know it exists as both until you observe it. Yeah. And maybe on some level, I needed to do this just to like hit a hit a reset button from the Anders Bravac episode. There's a decent chance that that's the case. Yeah. Like maybe it would have felt like we were copping out by doing a Jim Baker. Let's just laugh. Yeah. Yeah.

If we were just going to clown on somebody for two hours. Yeah. I don't know. There's a lot of issues that I need to unpack on my own. And thankfully I'm going to therapy tomorrow so I can do that. Good. But this sucks. Alex is a disaster. I don't know what else to say other than we have a website. We do have a website, Dan. What is that website? You don't have any more thoughts either. It's KnowledgeSite.com. I mean, what, all of all of this stuff, I'm not saying that I don't. I'm not saying that I'm manufacturing this in the moment. I'm just, I'm just unsure of any other way forward for so much like with this episode, all of that stuff. If we were, if we weren't our show, if we were just a mainstream news outlet trying to cover news,

yeah, all that I would think is just like pass. There's more important shit. Right. Stop it. Right. You know, like all of this shit every time we get a rundown of dumbass Trump's tweet storm, everybody's just like fucking pass. No, you don't get this. This isn't for this. You don't win. And by giving you attention, you win. So you don't get this. This time you lose. And that's the only way to make you lose is to just say, fuck you. We're not talking about you. Grow the fuck up. Every Trump headline on like Google news shouldn't be like Trump at 6am tweeted this but bullshit. It should just be like Trump said some dumb shit pass and then move on because everybody fucking knows. It doesn't matter. I disagree. I think that there certainly isn't,

it's not us. And I don't know if it exists. But I think that there is probably a hypothetical version of covering like his dumb tweets, like in a real version, there's a way to do it. Like I think that there is a way for someone to do it, but everyone does it wrong. It's what we keep coming back to about the like sort of ping pong nature of propaganda and the emotional response. There is like, it's the two sides of the same coin. Right. And it's what is manifest in that last clip of Alex saying like, I'm going to troll people with like Soros right texted me, good job. And just see it for one second like that thing that everyone was, you know, it's that it's that same thing. Like people like Alex, people like Trump, people like most of the active

participants in the right and the alt right now. Nazis, they know, they know the game. They're trying to enlist it the response that most people give them. Yeah, they're trying to do that because it's advantageous to them. They have no shame. The reason that it's not a big deal for Alex in his own heart to be seen with a window of pornography open on his phone. That wasn't his history. That was open in his phone as a window. Yeah. The reason it's not shameful for him is because he doesn't fucking care. There's no shame. There's no he knows what he's doing. He's craven. He is just he is a fucking just a source of transmuting fear, white identity, chauvinism, anti Islam feelings into pill sales. He's the full propaganda alchemist. Exactly. Yeah,

absolutely. No, I and all of those people are too. They don't all have pill operations, but all of them are right in the same game, whether it's clicks, whether it's Ben Shapiro has supplements, he's right, right, right, right. It's great because the world's great. All of these people are doing the exact same game. And in order to run the game, you have to elicit the response out of the other side that feeds into that right now. We don't elicit that response. Like we hear him and no, we get very different responses. Well, but like we're not going to give him the like the petulant child screaming that wants attention, not giving him attention. Yeah, we cover his show, which you could interpret as attention, but I think it would

be an I think it would be a miss if it was interpreted as intention, he would have brought us up and parade us around probably monsters by now. I think I think it would be a misinterpretation. What we do is we take his rhetoric on packet, laugh at it, point out why it's fucking stupid. And there is a version of that with all of the alt-right figures, Trump included, that can exist. It's just not what is most popular. Well, but that's that is exactly how I feel about it. And it's it's that it's that double-sided, you know, like, hey, to Alex Jones's benefit is to elicit that reaction that we've talked about to the Atlantic's benefit is to respond to that, because then they get more clicks, right? They

Trump tweets out some bullshit, they cover that bullshit the way that they it's fail at doing and they get more clicks. And then because they like they all just bounce back and forth, like the one thing that infuriated me, like, I don't know what it is. I don't know why I still read the Atlantic. I think it's just out of pure hatred. Like it's just like hate filled like I hate read. But this one this one thing this guy wrote was like, it turns out children don't trust the mainstream media anymore. And there's no reason that I can think of why and it's like, well, you guys, you guys are a fucking failure. Why do children need to trust a new I know you know, why are you asking them? They're fucking 12. You know,

I trust it as a kid, Linda fucking Ellerby. I know, like, what are you guys all fucking doing? What's wrong with you? Every, every, every aspect and it is, it's not, it's not that I want to like dip into this, this, this rhetoric, but like until, until the, the, like, because now the, the martyrdom of the, the mainstream media and I hate even using that fucking phrase because that's a goddamn pointless nonsense. But until, until the, until the news media, until they're willing and capable of examining themselves and how it is that they too have enabled all of this shit to happen, how they too are at fault for whenever Trump says that they are the enemy of the American people. You need to fucking look at your goddamn selves and ask yourself,

why did this come about? How did this guy come about? And oh, yeah, guess what? You are fucking culpable too. And the fact that it doesn't happen, that it never happens, but they're just like, oh, now we're the victim. They're doing the same game that the fucking idiots did 10 years ago. It's infuriating to me. They have failed and they don't even want to admit it. I'm furious. No response. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I don't know if we were going to wrap up the show, Dan. I'm sorry. You asked me if I had any. I shouldn't have done that. You should not have done that. I mostly agree with that rant that came out, but I think I lost a couple of the points in the screaming. Well, I did that. That's, that's Jordan. I do agree that the media at large,

it does need to have a come to Jesus moment because they're not recognizing the game that's being played because the game has changed to a great degree. And I kept trying to interject. Yeah, I'm sorry for that. But it's pro wrestling shit. It's, it's the same thing with like, the way wrestling works now, especially in the WWE is that like, who cares if it's good or bad, if it gets a reaction. So like, if you're a bad guy or you know, you're a healer, you're a face, it doesn't matter unless you're getting a reaction. The worst thing is getting no reaction. It's going out there. You're the best wrestler in the world and no one is like interested at all. Yeah, you're dead in the water. Yep. And that's the way it is with the media. Like we've shifted

into a place where like legitimately understanding pro wrestling, I think is going to be one of the most important things. I really don't disagree because it provides you with a little bit of a defense or at least internal defense. You know, you can understand like, Oh, that's why they're doing that. He's being a shit heel, you know, or a Ben Shapiro challenging someone to a debate and then bailing on the debate when he pretends that they didn't reach whatever qualification he wanted. Oh, he's being the cowardly heel. Right. That's what he's doing. He's refusing to do the match until WrestleMania or whatever, you know, like they're all playing by a weird wrestling playbook. And it's not it's not conducive to things going well. And when the media is trying to be like,

we are just here. Yeah, we're just reporting the fuck off. What they end up doing is being tricked by heels over and over and over and over again. That's no, you make you make a great point. And at the same time, the faces end up looking fucking stupid. Because those are the people who were like constantly get tricked by the heels. Exactly. Yeah, there are the people who are responding to the heels doing obviously evil stuff. Yeah. And then they look like fucking dicks. There's there's there's nothing to do other than be I guess, the shitty fan who's watching it like we are. No, we are basically the yeah, yeah, basically the jaded fan who's watching wrestling and being like, Hey, look at this bullshit. Well, so you just you just encapsulated it perfectly

because I do think the modern fandom of professional wrestling is just as much interested in the meta narrative as they are in the actual narrative. Probably. Do you know what I'm saying? Like probably the the you know, after after we let before to know I don't disagree. But I'm just saying that what I know, as far as compared to when I watch wrestling in the in the, you know, the attitude era versus now. Can I stop you just before you get into this? Because I think you're going to embarrass yourself. Sorry, I'm going to I think it's because we're like I'm early 30s, your late 20s. I think it's because there's 31. Oh, you're 32. Jesus Christ, man. Sorry. And I don't like admitting that on air because I can play a 26. But you know what, fine. I thought you were 29

for a second. I don't know. Look, there is a difference between knowing people who like wrestling while we're in our 30s, fine, fine, being children, fine. So you're projecting from the path like the understanding. That's a great point. 30 year old people who liked wrestling probably liked it in the same way that people we know like wrestling now. That's a great point. We just have the projection of youthful mind. I retract that entirely. Then then here's here's my point without that bullshit. The attitude era was fun. But without that bullshit personal context, it is that from the distance of recognizing the meta narrative in wrestling as being something that you can watch. So is recognizing the meta narrative of our current political news propaganda

important. Like to recognize that even if the individual reporters at the New York Times are just trying to get to a deadline and their boss said, you know, you got to write a thousand words on block. Somebody at the New York Times recognizes the meta narrative. Somebody there knows somebody there knows we have to respond to this because it's going to get us more traffic than if we don't respond to it. Right. There is there are people who recognize that who are playing the game and we're not like you and I probably are. But like most people are not playing that game. Most people are still stuck in the like wrestling is real. Like, I don't know. I don't know what to tell. Well, the stakes are different because back,

you know, because families are getting separated from their children. Right. Yeah. Yeah. The stakes are a tiny bit different. The metaphorical version we're talking about is like, I don't know, the iron sheik goes over. Yeah, he's the villain and he goes over. Yeah. But in the real world, it's like, Hey, someone's getting bombed. Yemen people are dying. Yeah. So like the Rohingya people are still being like slaughtered. Hey, you know, but on song Suki definitely deserve that Nobel Peace Prize. So for sure. The stakes are different. But recognizing those similarities and rhetoric is incredibly important because you can't allow yourself to be baited. Yeah. In the way that people like Alex Jones bait. And what's so fucked up about it is that sometimes there

are things that are legitimately like he didn't mean for his phone to show that. No, absolutely not. But it still provides him an opportunity to pretend like he meant for his phone to show that or to turn it into a positive for him. Yeah. And you need to people need to recognize. I don't want to I don't want to just turn this into a large soapbox, but people need to recognize you know how I hate doing that. Yeah. People need to recognize the instances of like this is a viable thing to like, Oh, hey, here's the thing to point out and things that aren't like we've I've I've seen thousands and some of them were tweeted at me thousands of tweets about his pornographic intake, which I'm not interested in. Right. I've seen zero tweets about how he probably murdered

again. You know, I'm saying point. That's a good fucking point. I've seen zero tweets about that. I've seen zero tweets about anybody talking about the well a couple tweets from fans, but you know, like the you know, we did that episode about him and Anders Brevik being a bosom buddies. Yeah, basically. Yeah, I there's just the you know, it's not people aren't dealing with the important stuff that we're dealing with the stuff that is is easily reclaimed into troll territory. Yeah. And you need we we all need to do better. We need to do better too. But everyone needs to do a lot better because we're closer to better or our instincts are more honed. We're we're just more focused on trying. And it seems like everybody else is more focused on clicks.

Yeah. I mean, if we wanted clicks, we would actually promote whenever we put out an episode dude, man, what if we cheated? What if we actually did what anyone does? And I like I haven't even like there have been episodes. I don't even tweet that there's a new episode. I don't do shit. We're not good at this. I'm ashamed that we do this. No, that's the problem. Do you know how you understand the meta narrative? Shame over understanding it. We record an episode. I put it out in the next morning. I'm like, God, I hope no. I stand by it. Oh, man, what if people listen? Oh, man, what if we didn't have shame? God damn, Dan, we might own this world. Yeah.

Starting to think about that, though, actually. Yeah, you're not doing great. Well, I started every time I try and do something shameless. You try and stop me. I think you should not be shameless, but I think there's a lot of things in life where you get up in your head and you create demons and ghosts and fears where they don't exist. And I think, I think some of that is a valuable, I don't know. I don't know. Anyways, do we have a website? We do. It's knowledgefight.com. No shit. How would you get there? Would you, would you put it into your search engine? Yeah, put it in your Alta Vista. Yeah. Okay. All right. Ask Jeeves. Ask Jeeves where they're not. You can knowledge fight.

Now don't ask Jeeves. Ask Bertie Wooster. Oh, that's nice. He won't have anything to say. He has got nothing to say. He'll talk. He'll tell you about a great time. He had at the drones club with cats, meat, butter, beer break. Man, I love it. Oh, I love it when you get into PG. I love woodhouse so much. So good. Man, the descriptions of the drones club. It sounds like so much fun. Everyone's throwing rolls at each other. I know. God damn it. They have a pool. So many times I will go back and reread those and just be like, you have not. Am I going to have to go back into the real world after this because this is a delight. What's Jeeves' version of the drones club? Do you know when the last time I reread them was?

You don't know shit. Six years ago, Dan. It's called the junior Ganymede. Sure. Yeah. That's something that you would absolutely remember off the top of your head if you reread it six years ago. It's a club for gentlemen's gentlemen. For this and more references to PG woodhouse, you could not go to our Twitter and also even in person, I won't tell you anything about P Smith. I won't talk to you about, I won't talk to you about his other works. No, that's a rule though. Yeah. Yeah. It also might be pronounced just Smith. The P might be silent. I don't even know. Anyway, we're on Twitter. We're on Facebook. We are on Facebook. We have a group called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant. It's where

everybody is hanging out. Post and Ben Garrison cartoons. Yeah. A lot of fucking references to Daddy Shark. So many. I appreciate that. Like it's a bad. No, I appreciate them all, but it's very jarring because I don't know this song. I don't have kids or anything. It's a real song though. Yeah, apparently. I genuinely thought it was something that he made up. Oh, no, it's a song, but I staunchly refused to click on any of the videos that people post. So I've never heard the actual song, but it's apparently... I have only ever heard him sing it. I can only guess based on the words that come up in like sort of closed captioning that it's supposed to be Daddy Shark do, do, do, do, do, do. I think Mama Shark do, do, do, do, do, do. I think something along

those lines, but it is very... That's way better. Yeah, it's much better. Yeah. It's one of the rare times that the remake is better than the original. I want to stress this one more time before we close, but we're also on iTunes. Alex Jones, if you're listening, which I hope you are. 530. No. Oh, don't call me. Neonip. Please, please. There's been a number of times that like, especially in present day, he's gotten back to singing to country music. There have been some things that indicate that maybe he's listening. If you can hear me, Alex, please work the Adjustment Bureau into your rhetoric somehow. It would... It's the worst fucking movie that Philip K. Dick has ever been involved with based on him writing the short story it's involved in, but I would love

for you to just talk about hats. Just toss it in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Adjustment Bureau. It's only like four pages. Alex, you could read the whole thing. Please. And Stephen King stole all that hat material and all of that shit. Don't even talk about Stephen King. You go right into... Or even watch the movie. You got Damon in there. Not a good movie. You got John Slattery. John Slattery's great though. He's got a great hat. He's got a great hat. That's a man who looks great in a hat. Anyway, so I think one of the most important things that we touched on and that isn't really the focus of this episode. No. But say what you will. Alex Jones almost killed a guy or technically killed a guy. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

Hello, Alex. I'm a person of color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.