Knowledge Fight - #205: September 13, 2018
Episode Date: September 14, 2018Today, Dan and Jordan check in on what Alex Jones is up to in the present day and find both very expected and very surprising things. On the very expected side, Alex gets super bigoted, then spends a ...disproportionate amount of his show talking about how he should be more cocky about how good his body is. On the more surprising end, Alex Jones announces that he just sold out his audience to what is embarrassingly probably the highest bidder.
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Andy and Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding
So Alex I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight
I'm Dan. I'm George. We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about that
That boy Alex Jones indeed. We are Dan. Yep Dan. Oh boy
What was the last time you played Pokemon last time? Oh boy. I'll tell you what never never
Even play the the original Game Boy red or no sir. No never nope never really had a Game Boy to speak of
I know this is now becoming the theme for the openings is video game talk. And this is two times in a row
It's not that bad, but it's a trend two times. It's a two times. It's not a trend
Sure coincidence not even a pattern coincidence or trend requires three to be a trend never played Pokemon wasn't super interested in it
Thought it was for nerds. I thought about getting into Pokemon go for one second
Yeah came out and I said nah, it's not for me, dude
I'd rather read on the bus or something like that. Oh for me. It's so much for me. I love Pokemon go
That's fine. I'm level 35 Dan. I don't even know how many more I can be how many have you caught?
Too many to all of them too many because you have to catch them. I have only caught. I have not caught a Mewtwo
Okay, which is what about a Charmander? Oh hell. Yeah, I started with a Charmander Dan
I'm sorry Charmander's been my opening Pokemon since fucking red in
1990 I didn't mean to set you off. I only know about three. I know I know I'm just kidding
What about a Bulbasaur the other one? I know of course anyway guys
This is a podcast where Jordan knows a lot about Pokemon and I don't know anything about Pokemon except for Charizard
Bulbasaur that's not bad. Also. I know a lot about Alex Jones and I don't only know what you tell me about
Alex that is correct before we get into today's episode which I teased to Jordan before we started that it's
Probably one of my favorite episodes of Alex's show that I've ever heard
It's a big ask to believe that after how many episodes have you listened to and then collectively we listen to I mean
We're over 200 episodes of our show right and some of those represent like four episodes of Alex's show. That's right
I would say I'm over a thousand episodes probably of listening to a show, you know, I believe you
I would I would absolutely say that because of all the ones I've listened to we haven't talked about exactly like you got to consider
All the time all the times that you've listened to three episodes seven eight hundred
That's a conservative safe estimate
All right, and you got to consider the ones that I listened to before we ever started this show
Well, that does count. I didn't listen to him a lot before but I listened to him plenty
I did I I was aware of him. I just wasn't paying attention. All right. I was like listen this fucking yeah
Look at this fucking asshole. Haha. This guy. Yeah, he's a clown. Hurray dance. Yeah, dance white supremacist clown
So even the KKK needs clowns Dan. That's true. Send them in
We will see if this lives up to the expectation that I have set. I hope it does
I think it will but no matter what, you know, it does live up to our expectations
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So Jordan it is Friday and so, you know, well, we do sometimes
On Fridays as we check in what the fuck's going on with Alex in 2018
Last we checked he'd been kicked off everything. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, Apple app
Apple to app black eyed peas have kicked him off. Oh
Oh boy
This is what happens when I have a little coffee. Will you aren't?
Yeah, so he's off the the iTunes store his app is gone. He got kicked off a Twitter
and
You know, I think the last time we checked in was just after he went to Washington and acted like a dick hole to everybody
right when he was a dick hole to everybody and so, you know, we kind of assumed this is just going to be a
Diminishing return situation for him. He's gonna paint himself as a Lenny Bruce type free speech warrior
And whatever. Yeah, but I slowly lose his mind as his quality declines, you know, like Lenny Bruce
Sure, sure. I felt like, you know, the week's ending. We got a check back in we gotta see what's going on in the world of Alex
And what I found is bar none the best proof that he is fucking done
Okay
Like I know he's going to keep going but like he is straight horse fucking himself
The worst
I like that. I'm teasing this a little bit. We're shot and fraying today is what we're doing by the end
Well, only because what he's doing is massively unethical, but like
I don't mind only because what he's doing is massively. Okay, I don't mind taking pleasure in this level of
Awful because he's be he's gonna hurt other people by doing what he's doing
I don't want to spoil what this is but by the end of this episode you guys will understand fully what I'm talking about
And you'll laugh too. No, this is a lot like if Scott Pruitt was lit on fire right next to me
I'd be like, hey, this is hilarious. Maybe. Yeah, you might. Yeah. I might
I don't walk away. You'd walk away
Oh man, somebody should help this guy. I'm gonna get out of here though. Someone just tweeted at me
I gotta download
There's a Charmander over there. I'm gonna see you later today. I see what you did
So now let's see what Alex did in an outer context drop from today's show
My neck is freakishly large. Okay
Yeah, I like a guy who can look into the mirror and evaluate himself appropriately. Absolutely. That's good
I will also say unrelated to why this is one of my favorite episodes
There's a stretch of this show where Alex is trying to work out some body image issues
It is fucked up
Okay, so we're gonna start where Alex starts which hey guys guess what now that Alex isn't having to worry about
Most of the things he had to worry about before turns out he takes a real hard trip back into blood libel territory. Oh boy
the stress level
You can cut with a knife right now. I
Could almost not go on air today
Because of the magnitude and the stress and just how serious things are not for me
People keep asking how I can handle all these unprecedented attacks only Trump's been attacked more than I it's now official
How's it official?
How's it official?
NASA did a survey of all the attacks
On I mean if Alex wants to use the social media stuff as like his big case for it
Then he's been attacked more than Trump. Yeah, so he's been attacked almost as much as any woman on Twitter saying things
But he should he should up his up his claim here like I'm attacked more than Trump
I'm banned from stuff. Yeah, that's true. I mean, why not?
Well, because I jump as his god king. Yeah, he can't you know, he can't over which would be that would be blasphemy
He has to put himself in a subservient position right like a fucking coward. We haven't gotten to the blood libel yet
Because the globalists are evil and they're taking our country in our world over it's the only chance we've got
And I've used this analogy many times there've been famous cases people weren't even good swimmers
But a big ship had tumped over and they had to swim, you know, fifty a hundred yards in total darkness to get out
And people are able to do it just like those, you know kids had never been scuba diving and in the mind collapse that happened a few months ago
And they got a crash course in it. They they made it out
It's not
Desperately trying to not be a slave I
Would not be fighting tooth and nail at my own personal risk if we were just being taken over by some superior capitalist system
Would simply try to be part of that
Hmm that's a spoiler for later, but hold on what did he just say you would try and be a part of it
What I would do is I would give up on all of my principles and try and be part of the winning team
I would sell out if we were being taken over by a superior
Almost like something happened in 2015 and I did exactly that now he's gonna do it again. Okay at the end of this episode
I'm all about adopting things. I'm all about things that are better
Marrying them. That's what you do. I
Don't want to be at war with everybody, but the globalist are really nasty
Devil worshipping blood drinking pedophiles and you know, you should all the news. Oh, sure as blood goes for $18,000
Court you see that all in the news
It's in the medical literature, I know
Rich people here in town that told me it's 10 years ago. I ought to go get children's blood
Well, I say that all the time
So don't don't tell me I
Know and that's why they hate me because the globalist tune in and they go this guy has got our number. Oh, yeah
Oh, yeah, that's it. Yeah, $18,000 a quart
I don't I don't know what the retail or wholesale prices on children. Yeah, what's the MSRP?
I don't know
But I will tell you what he's talking about is that there's sort of a fad among rich people of like blood transfusions from like youth
Younger people. Yeah, that is something that is real, but it's like people who would go to oxygen bars and shit like that
It's it's it's just some sort of thing that rich people the idle rich needs something weird to sort of get that
It's just it's just proof that there's no reason that these people are richer than us other than weird
Sociopathy and a confluence of luck and events circumstance. Yeah, all these are all really stupid piece
Really stupid people. Yeah, I mean if you see I'm not not all of them
They're there, you know, there's as wide a spectrum as there is in any other walk of life
Yeah, right, but like you if you watch a lot of celebrities with on unlike
What would you call it unshepherded speech you listen to some of them talk for long periods unfiltered uncurated. Yes
You know that sort of thing they reveal like oh, you don't know all that much unabridged. Yeah. Yeah
So like yeah, and you know when you're rich some like really expensive thing comes along
They're like, I'm gonna fucking do that. How many rich people do you think own?
$10,000 crystals, you know like it's got prove it
It's the same sort of thing like when you're really rich
You run out of things to spend your money on that you actually need and you start investigating getting youth below, right?
And like if you were like a human you might say well, I'm never going to be able to spend all of this money
I have right so why not instead of buy a dumb bullshit
$10,000 crystal I could just give it away now ironically then you end up being a globalist and Alex's eyes like Hamdi
Oolokia
Buffet the people have signed to the pledge right away most of their money before they right exactly
But then you become a demon you're drinking children's blood
Which is where we get into the blood libel aspect that is very literally anti-semitic canards from history pretty much that is an expression of
Alex's directly using historical anti-semitism to paint the globalists as demonic pedophiles who drink children's blood
Which we don't need to get into it again. It's just bears mentioning that's overt
Yeah, that is you can't there's no other way to describe that because that's not what they're doing
No one's drinking blood
Transfusions and it's stupid novelty bullshit for rich people. Have you ever drank blood only my own
But yeah, you know like that's like if you yeah, if you have a cut you do that
I don't imagine that it would be something that's easy to get through. No
Like I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't want to take a just just a glass out of it, you know
I don't even fucking want tomato soup
Probably less delicious than tomato soup. That's my point. That's your point. Yes. I don't want club motto
What other red liquids do you will not want a motto club motto? I already said it. Yeah, beat you to it
What about what about Barry is okay cranberries okay? Yeah beet juice. No, have you ever had beet juice?
That might be the Pokemon
I don't think I've had beat
Wouldn't you see now we've got a real sponsorship right there beat anybody who sells beet juice
Hook us up now for your new slogan beet juice the Pokemon of juices and that and imagine the the victory of them winning me over
Oh, yeah, you know just like I never had beat you. Oh my god. This is the best. We would never we would never advertise a
Product that we don't believe in oh, Dan. I'm guaranteeing if we get a beet juice
Prevair
Then we got it done right so this is not Alex's main narrative
This is just him rambling about bullshit, but almost immediately after that clip
He does get into what would be his varsity narrative
For this episode and boy, it's thin
So the ultramassiveness straight ahead. I haven't even told you what it is yet. There's a hurricane
It's not getting attention deserves. It's on info wars calm
And it is thousands of armed men and camouflage coming across the US on horseback. This is an invasion
Okay, okay
Okay now hold on hold on and I mean I don't mean to poke a hole in this right away because I'm sure there's more to it
All right, we're doing this
I'm just saying that maybe if you're riding on horseback the
Camouflage isn't in that big of a deal sure the horse
You know camouflage at that point too and also a silent horse
It would have to be a stealth horse or a silver stallion like the highway men
Even better doesn't have a mark on its silky hide that but it reflects moonlight at least
Yeah
sure
Look, we're gonna get into what he's talking about and suffice it to say just up top
This is a load of bullshit
Thousands of he's being rushed to break and that's why he's got to describe it so like very dramatically and very shortly
Yeah, thousands of men across America with guns on horseback
Yeah, yeah, and look here. Yeah, there's no way to deal with the threat of this magnitude Dan
I'm laughing about this because it's so stupid and we'll get into why but like
Legitimately if that's what he's selling to his audience the only solution is kill all those people, right?
I mean like because he says this is an invasion if it's an invasion is being invaded
All of his rhetoric would lead to the only conclusion being find these people and kill them
And now you don't need to kill them because as I imagine is the case Alex has screamed over and over again
We will give them no quarter, right?
I mean kill them, but I mean you don't need to I there
It's pretty easy to capture a lot of dudes on horseback what with the whole modern world
We live in sure like I imagine if we had if we had just one of our one battalion
Go back in time. They could win every war like by themselves with guns though. Well. Yeah, but I mean throw rocks at it
Basically gingus con but with guns, you know what?
You go back into the old west and shoot at their horses legs and make them dance or put out
And then they can't run so fast and then you catch them put out a strip of road spikes
Pop the tires on those horses. Yeah, absolutely
Can't oh it threw a shoe can't compete with that
So so I also are they using roads what I like these men on horseback. They're not using roads where they're going
You don't need roads. There you go. So uh, look, this is
This is some bullshit, I'll get into exactly what he's talking about
I believe in a couple of clips, but alex has got to percolate on this. He's got to really ruminate about how
This is just like the movie the road warrior in mexico because he's talking about people coming across the border spoiler alert
okay, but
Even in the movie the road warrior they had cars though
Hmm
Look, it's kind of a big deal in the movie the road warrior that they did have cars, but but he's talking spiritually
Uh, you know, oh, he isn't describing them as literally coming over on horseback. No, no, no that part is literal that part's
Why is that part the literal part? Look, okay, fuck it. I'll get into
No, no, no, let's just move on go to the next clip. I need to give an explanation of just the broad strokes
Okay, the daily caller put out a video that alex is reporting on that
Proports to show people crossing the border uh from mexico and there were a couple horses in the video
That is why alex is expressing thousands are on horseback
He didn't mention in that clip going out to break that it's people coming across the border. He's just saying they're coming across america
They're coming across america in horses. So i'll explain in greater detail why this is bullshit in a second, but that
I realized that it's only fair that I explained that much right anyway back to the road warrior thing
Thousands of illegal immigrants are being born after being hit inside of horses and walking across the border
That's the easiest way to do it. Yeah, like ton ton. Yeah, anyway
Here's where we get to the road warrior metaphor and it gets bad before it gets better
It is literally road warrior
type type in uh cartels building their own war wagons and tanks
And there is footage that comes out of mexico youtube takes it down though because they don't want you seeing
That's what it's even violent. It is violent, but it's not this graphics. What's on tv
Okay, and it's giant war wagon shooting at each other attacking blowing up running over people
And you'll see like 15 war wagons and 50 cow machine guns and stuff exploding and people just running
And
Seven incredible narco tanks built by mexican cartels beyond mad max says business insider
See beyond exactly what i told you
It is
Warrior
Except it's not a guy named humongous going just give us the guys. We spell your lives
No, he's not wearing a jason mask
It's not a bunch of gay punk rock dudes that are doing a killing. You know that sci-fi fiction
Yeah
It is mexicans with huge satanic tattoos that worship satan and the grim reaper
That's pretty gay and punk rock tortures children to get demonic power
Imagine a road warrior like that. That's also pretty uh blood bible adjacent quite frankly, but he's talking about mexican
So it's really still bad. That's really bad. Yeah, it's real bad
We're pretty much the most racist thing you can do. Oh boy. I mean, it's like he's saying it's like road war
But it's worse because it's mexican exactly and they're demonic mexican. Oh, yeah
They're not they're not gay punk rockers. No
They're demonic gay punk rockers. Alex has really lost any kind of credibility when he calls people demonic
So it's just kind of like a fill-in. Yeah insult epithet here
You can use to misalign these uh these mexicans. They do listen to a lot of moracy though, right now
It gets worse in this next clip because he gets back to the road warrior thing a little bit later
And he also combines it with another movie reference that is
I've never seen footage this powerful. It's up on info wars.com. We can't tweet it out
But you can heavily armed individuals caught on camera
entering country illegally through arizona ranch
And it goes on to say
Shows thousands of illegal aliens marching in the united states uninterrupted because there is no border wall
No border patrol to stop them
Yeah, and they have assault sure rifles
And they have horses
So it's like
road warrior meets planet of the apes
Where you got people on horseback. Wow
This is insane. Oh boy. Nice save. Oh boy because they're on horses. It's like uh plan to the apes
Oh Alex careful. Oh boy. So, uh, it's like this
subspecies of human that survived the apocalypse has been combined with this other subspecies of ape and the it's not that I'm
describing all mexicans
As a subspecies boy, it's easy for me to do it. It sure seems like I am but like multiple subspecies at the same time
So I uh, I found this video. It's a 25 minute video and actually if you read the daily caller article
This is from like, uh clips that this guy has had hidden cameras up at his house since 2016
So it's over the course of what could be two two years and nine months now
Of footage, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, so I watched it. Alex is saying it's thousands of
Immigrants who are coming in first of all, there's no way to know if these are illegal immigrants
Or just people who are wandering around in the in the wilderness. Well, he's got a hidden camera
There's no timestamps on any of this stuff a number of the people appear to be caucasian
Uh, so there's a lot of like very imprecise stuff going on caucasians can illegally immigrate. No totally totally
That's you know what?
Totally opportunity fair enough
So I I set out to watch this entire video and count literally every person that's in it because I'm like thousands
I don't think so. So I watched it. I got to the 10 minute mark before I saw literally repeated footage
It's the same footage. No shit. And also if you watch it, it's like these are you see the same people from different cameras
Like it's the same group of people at different points along the way
No, shit
But even assuming that every single person that you see in all of these videos are a unique person within 10 minutes
I counted 374 people. So extrapolate that out multiply that by two and a half. You got what?
Maybe 800 people. Yeah, probably that like I'm saying there's repeated people
It's nonsense. This is all bullshit. And some of them do have guns, but the vast majority don't
You know what I'm saying? Like most of them just have big packs on their back and like Alex is saying that's all drugs
But it's equally likely that it's rations. It's equally likely that a lot of these people have supplies in order to get
Uh through this journey through central america. Yeah up to uh up to the united states
There's nothing in this in these videos that really leads me to believe that first of all
This is an invading army on horseback and second like I said, there's only like maybe three or four horses in the entire thing
And no one's riding them
Well, people are standing next to the horses
You gotta you can't ride them on your way to the fight. You got to fight while riding them
So you want to keep them well rested fair enough. Yeah, that's just good tactics, Dan
There's incredible. I've studied Hannibal. There's incredible exaggeration going on here
There's incredible unclearness of what the video even is capturing
It's very irresponsible the way Alex is presenting this because like I said in that first clip
The only reasonable conclusion to come to that Alex is advocating for is kill these people
They're an invading army on horseback with heavy weapons
So this is so this is a this is just white supremacist propaganda that's being put out now
I mean sure who edited the so this is the daily caller which is run by tucker carlson
Or at least was started by tucker carlson. No if I understand. Sorry, I I
I'm not sure if I caught the the whole first part. It's just some guy's house some rancher
He has hidden cameras around the article, but I don't really yeah
I don't really care who so he sends in the raw footage and they edit it
Or do you think he edited himself 76 years old?
Okay, he definitely did not edit it. Maybe a son right like that. I would assume that daily caller did it
Right, so they so we're in a so that's why I was a little bit confused because I I was just imagining this dude
Who has a bunch of hidden cameras right who is editing this footage?
And that's just a guy who's filled with so much hate that he can't even get past the fact that
It's not a big deal and his own footage proves it
Well, I mean he has a 50,000 square acre ranch. I believe right. I believe that was the um
That was the total given just huge
That's massive and so if he has cameras around that place and what he's capturing over the course of almost three years
Is maybe 800 people assuming that they aren't the same people at different locations
That's not impressive to me. Nothing. That's really weak
I'm surprised it's not more and some of them do have guns. Yes, but again, so does the fucking rancher
Well, sure. And but like i'm saying too is that
You don't have proof that these people are illegal
Undocumented immigrants coming in all you have is a video of people walking around
And so if they do have guns you need to do better to prove
That what you're saying is the reality before i'm gonna get mad about a couple of them having guns
I would I would have actually been like if he had just said, you know what?
I think there might be some people hunting on my land. I'd be like, yeah, fuck. Yeah, they you've got a thing there
I mean, it's but illegal immigrants carrying guns through that you got a large you got a larger florida
You you want to you want to file a complaint about trespass? Yeah, i'm on your side. I'm with you
They shouldn't be people shouldn't be on your land right and then to the other issue
They're all like most of them are wearing camouflage, but like I don't give a shit about that either like
People who are coming across
You know trying to get up to america, of course, they're gonna wear camouflage. That doesn't prove they're an army
Or something like that like alex is trying to present. It's all just a load of bullshit
So anyway, now if they were wearing sniper suits and moving very very slowly like if all of this hidden camera footage showed
Was like a whole bunch of hay bales just slow like over the course of two and a half years
They go from one edge to the other
The longest now that's perfect. Yeah, i'm on your team. That's an invading army is what that is that's footage
I could get behind and publicize. Oh, yeah, I will help you with that
So that's a load of bullshit and that's his sort of varsity narrative throughout most of the show
Which is disgraceful and really ugly
But uh, it leads to this next clip where alex spins a conspiracy about what he thinks is going on with immigration
and then at the end of this he makes
A very bold very bold claim. Okay, and the un
Now stages in guatemala
All right, we're up to good start and i'll salvatore three giant migrant centers for all over the world
To give them several thousand dollars a piece
A bag of of food and other necessities clothing you name it and then staging zones
And the mexicans let them go up the railways. They say don't go into mexico
And then they hit the us with the democratic groups waiting to snatch them up
To be a client group
They control for illegal voting political activities and now ms 13 has been confirmed to be carrying out assassinations for the democratic party
That's why 13 is now a murder arm
Bacon lovers we ship free
Completely forgot that I left in that clip of the commercial
Uh
Is what makes it perfect jarring juxtaposition
ms 13 is now a hired kill group for the democrats bacon lovers unite we now ship free
All right, man. First off u.n. I got a guy who can hook you up with some buckets. You don't need. Oh, that's true
I know that guy too. Oh, yeah, very reputable. We can get some buckets all over this place. Absolutely
Hell, yeah
Now to the point of like whether or not people are helping immigrants on their way up through
Central america or anything like that. I would say that that's a right christianly thing to do the idea that without some sort
What christianity are you talking about? I mean without some sort of like, uh water or anything like that
I mean, it's the same thing. You're not going to stop people from trying to seek refuge
In america. You're not going to do that. No, you're gonna stop them
And when it's venezuela's job to make sure that immigrants don't get into america
That's just true. But you you're as long as
The world operates in the way that it does you're never going to be able to stop people from trying to save their own lives
By getting out of bad situations. Yeah, they're going to try and come to america
And if you crack down and you're like you're evil for giving them water along the way
All you're gonna do is make sure that more of them die
That's you aren't you aren't going to stop the impetus to come
Uh to america. Yeah, you're not gonna solve the problem you want to solve
You're just going to be cruel to the people who are desperate and fleeing a bad situation
That's never happened before everybody knows that when you ban abortion, right good things always happen, right?
It's a no babies ever get aborted. It's a perfect analog. Yeah, you get rid of legal abortion. All you do is kill women
That's all you do. Yeah, and just as jesus said the way you treat the least of these is
Fucking dope and keep on doing it. Sure. Yeah, you remember when jesus said that? Yeah, you know remember when jesus said bacon lovers
Jesus ships bacon for free. See now that it was a really that's why he got crucified right the jews could not be having somebody
Shipping free bacon. I'm into this conspiracy. That is just crazy. It's better than alex's version of this stupid
They just want democratic voters. But I mean, that's just you know, white nationalist rhetoric
It's du regour for them to just be like all the democrats want is
People to come vote and they can't vote but they still vote and they vote in dead people's names and
Yeah, whites only
Anyway, yep, jordan. Yep. It's interesting because for years alex has been
I don't know. I think that back in the day
Maybe I might be a little bit wrong about this
But at my sense from listening to the a lot of stuff in 2008 2009 alex is pretty against racial profiling
Because at least on some baseline level he understands that group culpability is not a way to proceed with life
You would hope no, I I believe that to be now
I don't know if he is perfectly consistent in that back then
But I get I get a strong sense from him that like, you know, you don't commit a composition fallacy and assume the group
Is represented by bad examples of individuals
Unfortunately in 2018. He is really into racial profiling, of course
They haven't stopped one terror attack with all that tsa crud. They need to profile islamic extremist period
Problem solved problem solved. Okay
Oh, they they profile conservatives facebook and all these systems discriminate against us
You're part of a radical sect of islam. You're connected to these groups
It goes to that database and flags your butt. You're gonna get pulled out and you're gonna get questioned
You're gonna get extra screening. That's what you do
I don't think that first of all, I don't I don't trust alex's assessment of what constitutes a radical islamic group
So I think that conversation could get awful murky awful quick
I think it's a very simple all of them anybody who appears to be at all of middle eastern descent
Right, exactly. Just like if you were to uh, I don't know
Say that everybody who it looks like a member of a radical militant white supremacist group
Should be profiled problem solved. We don't have to deal with radical white
Uh supremacist groups anymore, right? Well, you're using his uh logic to prove that it's stupid
Ah, yes, I am dad. Uh, and this is stupid. This is very disgraceful. I mean, I'm gonna use that word a lot today, but like
That's so
Terrible even for alex. It's bad. It's embarrassing for alex too because I mean
He's not but there was a time he was better than that I think and to hear him advocate for out and out
Racial profiling because he's afraid of muslims. Yeah is just pathetic. It's it's
It
For someone who wants to act like he has principles and he's standing up for america and what it stands for and all this
To hear this kind of drivel come out of his mouth is just like just go home, man
You're you're done. Go to bed. You're go to bed. Yeah, you're out of the game, man
Yeah, you're like an old dude yelling about music today. Yeah, that's what you do
You have outlived your usefulness even to
Your world and that's bad. Yeah, that's rough. That's bad because like people
These old assholes like Jerome Corsi are still useful. You know what I'm saying? It's nuts
Anyway, uh for mule muler. Yeah, certainly useful for that
Anyway, um, look, I suppose I suppose he does have a he does have one point
Which is that careful the easy way to keep immigrants from
Escaping their terrible situations to come to america is to turn america into a shithole. They don't want to come to
And it seems like they're doing a pretty great job of that right now
Sure, or just say none of them. Just like yeah make it illegal to be different
Yeah, that's that does seem like different in heavy quotes. That's that that seems like that's their goal
Nobody hates america more than people who call themselves patriots
So I might be a little bit wrong. Um in terms of you know, giving alex this sort of pass or credibility for his past self
Of being against racial profiling. Yeah, but this next clip is absolutely
Anathema to what he would have ever believed in uh mere years ago. In fact, I'll say it
Apprehensions of illegals are up 240 percent according to ice. It isn't enough
Trump is in dereliction of duty
Two years in he's not good enough. I want that it's in the constitution full military. I want the army
I want the marine corps. I want 200 000 troops on that border
I want it shut down
One million percent
So in the past alex has called for the national guard being used to police the border
Right, and everyone called him a hypocrite and I said no
He's not because that is something that can be done under the direction of the governor of the state
Right, so if the governor of texas wanted to call in the national guard to do that
It would not be against alex's principles
Him saying that the federal fucking government should do it is very much against
What are you talking about federalized troops would be operating within the state
No, maybe the governor wouldn't be okay with it. Come on that is directly against everything that we've heard him talk about
When we're looking at 2009 all of these 10th amendment resolutions and shit like that all of them
This is completely counter to it. He doesn't even bring up the idea of a governor's support or anything like that
This is him advocating for
Federalization it's him arguing for tyranny. Don't you remember how much he loved jade helm loved it
Don't you remember how many times the federal government has mobilized troops to do something very innocuous exercise
Yeah, some training bullshit. He loved it. He loved it. This is
Bring federal troops into my state says alex jones
Now I don't know all the governorships along the mexican border
But we just need to imagine a scenario wherein one of them is democrat
Right. Yeah, and is against the idea of bringing in the federal troop or even a republican who's like no, absolutely not
Then what you have is a crisis that alex should be on the side of the governors
But now will not be absolutely lost his way entirely. Yeah, this is this
Is where people should be calling him a hypocrite like before there were articles and all the publications right wing watch
Was putting out stuff about how alex is calling for the national guard to come in to stop that train
Of immigrants that were coming up even though that train of immigrants is something that happens every year. It's a symbolic
Uh, sort of protest thing
It's not even like some sort of threatening group of immigrants coming up through central america
But they wrote about how alex was saying bring in the national guard when if they understood what alex stood for
They would know this isn't the problem for him. This fucking is
It bothers me. Yes. No one's going to talk about it
Well, the only other way that it could make sense for his principles is if he wants the federal army on the other side of the border
Which would be declaring war on mexico
I think his anti interventionist stuff would be against that too. Oh, that's a good point because ron paul boner would be uh, uh
Well, it would be quelled by that idea. Yeah, you could say that you don't want to get in foreign entanglements
That would be so costly. It is fine though. If you are on horseback
That is true or if anyone is near a horse in a video that's on the daily caller
And then it fucking is very reasonable to go to war. Absolutely. So, um, we know
From looking back at 2008 2009 that alex jones did not know who george soros was
With his globalists that he would talk about where the rock of fellers the fort foundation
Uh, those were the people who were roth's child
Absolutely, they were in play back then those were the people that were his big enemies and he
Uh, most recently on an episode the episodes that we've done. We've seen george soros be brought up
But alex is almost confused by it. He's not someone who's in uh play
So that makes me think that this next clip is bullshit
You let one of these third world countries collapse into you you go bankrupt. Oh, I forgot
Did you
What's george soros want?
Dogs before he spent tens of billions of dollars buying up the media in the us and buying pr for himself
When I was a young man when I was a kid and when I was in high school
My mom always had pbs on cooking dinner
Whenever I came home or whatever she was always there at five six o'clock for like an hour and a half cooking a
Huge, you know six dish meal
gourmet food
So I showed up for dinner a lot of times bring my girlfriend over
And
It was always on pbs and and and and abc and everywhere that george soros is a criminal
He overthrows countries all he wants to do is collapse things and he's an insider trader
Not anymore
He's the sweet little nazi collaborator. We almost kiss his little wart covered booty
I don't believe anything about that. First of all, I said no I do soros was or his importance in the world
until at least sometime in 2009
And I don't believe that pbs spent all of their time in the 80s talking about how it was a big deal in the 80s
pbs
You don't remember when pbs pbs went on that soros jag. I remember when he was uh, uh subject of investigation on three two one contact
Oh
pbs
Where where did you lose your way? You were once the vanguard against the in the fight against soros. Come on man
I don't believe this for a fucking oh that fight against soros was supported by viewers like you and the letter l
for
I should have chose a different letter. Yeah
Anyway, uh in this next clip alex is uh
He's going on a bit of a rant about china and how they're evil and they like to kill gays
Uh, yeah, that's way different. I only keep from
I only keep republicans
I only I only keep this clip in because I think alex is relishing talking about this a little too much
And it's gonna lead to him having a little bit of a breakdown later. So it's good for context
They there was one photo of two lesbians two 16 year old girls that got caught
In their dorm area having sex
And they took them out and they blew their brains all over the walls
You want to see those photos type it in
But tim cooks gay so it's okay
It's so liberal to blow women's brains all over the wall if you're liberal and you're gay then it's good
And the homophobe alex jones hates gay people because he doesn't blow their brains all over the wall
And he's not a nazi collaborator like george soros
They got sick that ish. They got evil that ish
So, uh, I I mean look all all I want to say about that is that he's that voice is
Disgusting and and what he's expressing is disgusting because as we've covered
At nauseam. He's very much a homophobe. Oh, yeah, he is whether or not he thinks that I'm I'm cool
I'm cool with that. I'm a libertarian. Hey, he's viscerally
Whatever you do in your own home is fine with me
He's viscerally angry at the lgbt community and likens them to pedophiles all the time
Well, yeah, but that's because they don't like him
And there's no reason that they wouldn't like him other than if they were
What he purports them to be definitely not that he purports them to be such right?
So when he's talking about that like
Putting it shooting their brains on the wall
So it's just you're getting too into it. That's gross and it leads to this
I just don't know how I get called homophobic and all this make up rap
When I say you should not have people sexualizing kids period and they have the lgbt groups saying I'm a homophobe when it's
Apple working with china that literally murders gay people and I'm not saying that because our next guest is gay
What about russia gets a fact they murder gay people
It drives me crazy. Sorry, we go to our guest here in a moment
I'm getting mad
Yeah, you should be because you're you're caught. You're caught in a little web of your own uh
Lack of ability to wiggle around this stuff. Yeah, you're screaming. What about russia? Yeah, absolutely
If I can talk about that then alex you dumb twat. Yeah, if you hate if you yeah, if you hate it whenever
governments and people's
Find it acceptable to kill gay people boy
You got a lot of options there, dude
Or like you even uh sort of referenced earlier the
You know if the right wing really does become ascendant and you know that that sort of religious conservative wing comes in
They want it to happen. Absolutely. And and the absolutely and the things the policies that they would try and put forth in terms of making
lgbt youth feel more weird
Uh conversion therapy becoming more uh
Recommended and that sort of thing all it's gonna do is lead to those people killing themselves. Yeah youth
I mean, that's that's the end result. Yeah drastically homophobic
No, the right wing in this country has accepted that it's not okay to just murder gay people
Yeah, but they like with abortion they will do everything possible to
Make sure they die. Yeah, like like it's hey. Hey, we're not killing gay people
We're just creating all of this circumstances necessary for gay people to die. It's not like we're doing it
We believe in self determination, right? We want you to determine to fucking kill yourself
Because we determine that you should right so fucking horrific deal with that alex
Uh, but look so he his next guest is gay. Cool. Great. So
He has Skype problems and they're not able to get a hold of him and so alex is trying to vamp
That's a metaphor. This is so funny. Let me tell you something that's very important while we're getting our guest on
And it's this
Just like our information here on air is world changing
Words words words words words words words words words
I'm saying words. Just like our information
is
Powerful stretch stretch it out stretch it. We're having technical issues stretch
Our products are the same
Good work, you know, I don't just sit here and tell you
That
Keep going we've still got issues. Come on. Keep it rolling. They're my cup. Excuse me a lot of stuff going on here before on the scenes
Just like our information. Yeah start over. Yeah stretch it a little bit longer
Our products are game changing
If you don't have oxygen you die. I know they'll say that's a conspiracy theory if you don't have water
In a week generally water is three days if you don't have
Iodine you die you finally got there
There you go. Wow
Clearly having someone talking his ear about like we we can't get this guy on the show
There's an issue. Come on stretch. You got a
And we are
Oh boy
product our products are
What's that? Hold on. I'm hearing something about they're good. They're good. Also, it's it's you know fun
Not fun for him to talk about like you need oxygen to live you need water to live considering
His boy trump just said that uh only six to 18 people died in uh in uh maria in hurricane maria in portorico
When in reality a lot of people died because they ran out of oxygen because there was no electricity and a lot of people died
Because they didn't have water so
I
Don't understand how
Just denying the death toll. It's weird. It's not enough to get you removed from office. You should go to the haig
Shouldn't that yeah, that should be the biggest story
President denies earth
That you you should be removed then that's a 25th. Look, that's all you need the 20th
The president doesn't believe in reality. We have to let him go. You gotta let you go, man
trump
You're cool. You gotta go. You gotta go
It would be like uh tj lavin on that season of the real world road rules challenge
Sure, it'd be like that and uh ct punch davis and then passed out drunk
Yeah, and uh tj lavin had to come in and wake up uh wake up ct. He's like hey ct
Sorry, man, but you gotta go. You gotta go. You gotta go. You know what the real world road rules challenge is my uh
Is my pokebop. He's drunkenly like in a stupor in his bed. He's like, what do I do?
He's like you punch davis, man
You gotta go and he's like who who's that that gay kid?
You gotta go
Anyway, that's what trump is like. You gotta gotta go. You just gotta go. Yeah
How is he not gone? I don't know. It's crazy. It seems like there should be something going on. It's crazy
Wow power people want power
God
Wow, it's nuts
Anyway, uh, they finally get their tech difficulties worked out after alex vamps for what seems like a political season
It seems like an entire four years
Coast to coast that he's doing there, but he finally gets him on the phone
And I don't want to listen to this guy too much. I don't even remember what his name is
But he's the guy who started that hashtag walk away trend on twitter. Um, it's the idea of it is that like, um
He's a democrat and he's trying to get people to walk away from the democratic party because they don't they don't represent him anymore
They've done. I mean, that's a that's a depending on his reasons. I'm willing to entertain that notion not to say he has any, um
Nefarious intent or anything like that
But if you want to look into it, there's a great salon article about how they did some research into the uh,
The accounts that were promoting that hashtag after it was put out and there is a very
Very high incidence of russian bots, huh that we're promoting that walk away campaign. So strange how that tends to happen
Yeah, it's probably a coincidence. It's almost like somebody pays them. Yeah to do it nuts
Almost like there's they're they're not even a government arm and more like a four hire service that if you have billions of dollars
And want to spread an idea you can just hire them special and they'll they'll give it a visibility
Yep, it seems that way. But anyway, um, he put on facebook that he was going to go on alex jones' show
It was something to the effect of patriots. I'm going on info wars. All right. Well, then now now i'm not i'm not uh, uh
If you if you say patriots, i'm i'm kind of out. So after that his facebook got locked and he could call um
He was understandably mad about it. And so he you know send an email or whatever to the powers that be at facebook
They uh looked at it and like oh, this was a mistake. Uh, here is your account back
He got it unlocked. This all happened before thursday. This is the thursday
I didn't even mention this. This is the thursday september 13th episode. Oh, okay by the morning of thursday
He's had his account back open for
Since the night before it was tuesday night or uh wednesday night whenever he got all of his access back
Oh, so it was really quickly resolved. Yeah, because it was actually a pretty good solid customer services. That's way better than comcast
sure, so he uh
Unfortunately is still going around everywhere and showing up on alex's show on thursday
Trying to pitch the idea that he just said info wars and he got banned for 30 days
When in reality by this point he has his account back. They apologized for the mistake that they made and everything should be fine
But because alex wants to try and pitch the idea that if you say info wars, you're banned from everything
He's having him on and letting him spout his bullshit
Which is really about him trying to raise money for a walk away march that he's trying to run
If anybody would like to contribute they can go to walkway march.com and please click
Fundraising that'll take you to our fund me. Of course. We're always looking for any kind of
Sponsors or donations from people who are at a larger level level if they're able to but i'm telling you i was devastated yesterday alex
I mean i was ready to shut the march down entirely because i thought
You still can't pull this off if i can't communicate with my people
Like i said my team and i've kind of worked on a workaround. We think it's gonna be okay
Emailing facebook they're trying to get people like me who are trying to have a voice and make a difference
To cower and say you know what i'm not as they're bigger than me. They're stronger than me
I might as well quit. I might as well give up because how can I fight against them?
I think you should you can fight against them by writing an email getting your fucking account back you dick
It's not hard. This is such bullshit. They're trying to present this image of like i'm
Oh, i've been because i have i'm so enterprising. It's like david versus goliath
I found a workaround to get my account and be able to access and talk to people when it's like no
Facebook recognized that they made a mistake
Uh, and whatever it was whether it's some capricious employee who like uh put his account on a suspension
Or if it was some sort of automated thing that it got caught somehow
They said oh, sorry fucked up here. Here's your account. Sorry. We unlocked it our bad
Not hard to do and he's trying to present it is like we're these fucking oppressed people
They're like no, you're not stop it. Stop it. I do like the I do like any time any time somebody uses workaround
Like you're gonna need to give me specifics on your quote-unquote workaround because it makes it seem like oh, we outsmarted them
That's not what a workaround is. Yeah, he's acting like he like is a hacker. Yeah
Yeah, we we broke into their code and we coded stuff like in the movie swordfish
Nope
Facebook said me a culpa and acted appropriately
so
I don't care about the rest of the shit he's talking about because it's nonsense and quite frankly
We we we got a bit to get through
Of the best stuff ever. Okay, uh, but before we get there
Alex has a little prediction about what's gonna happen to president
Donald john trump. Oh, I hope he gets killed a little bit from George straight right now. I watch this video
You
Now you buy that I got some motion from property
You know, I got a signal from high level folks
You are going to have oceanfront property in arizona shortly
They know what's going on
And not from steve patenek. It was from people at fort bragg and they said sounds like it's from steve patenek
They said Alex we believe march is when they're gonna try to kill the president
March
And they said we're ready
And just you need to be ready and I said should I relay that info and they said well
The enemy may change their operations
But it's definitely being directed from china. Oh and they plan to kill trump in march
I thought I would just let people know that fort bragg's preparing for that. They think something's in march
of next year
but
Who knows the enemy could change their plan
I don't know when it's thousands of armed men on horseback with giant drug packages coming across one ranch
All confirmed info wars.com daily caller
Whoop-de-shit all conferred all confirmed all conferred you see in there how he plays his games
He's like saying that fort bragg it's not steve patenek telling me this which leads me to believe that first of all
Totally steve patenek either that or he recognizes that steve patenek has been burned and been wrong way too many times on his show
And he knows that everyone's going to assume that steve patenek saying that right like no no no wasn't it wasn't it?
Yeah, so then he comes in with this they think it's going to be in march. They're going to kill trump but
Everything can change they can change their all we know is that china's behind it
But when it doesn't happen just know that I said things can change the goblets change their plans all the time
Right, so i'm saying this but it doesn't really fucking mean anything now the other thing is
I think he is trying to evoke the aides of march
I think he is I think that makes sense because in the past he has referred to trump as our caesar
He has he has used caesar as a analog for trump. That's a really bad thing
You know, it's even worse than you think
Because alex's big book that he basically because he just said that the government should bring their fucking military
Across our goddamn nation and he described him as caesar. Do you think there might be some sort of?
I
Don't know reference there
I don't yeah, but I don't care about that because okay for my for me
What it goes to is that in a none dare call it conspiracy the book that alex jones is based most of his career on
Caesar is used as an example of what happens when a psychopath is born super rich, huh in the book
Gary allen is describing the idea of like hey, there are these people who go out and murder
You know because they they're born crazy. There's just these vicious psychopaths out there serial killers exist
Exactly, but they are only able to kill like one or two three four five people because they were born into humble circumstances
But what happens when a psychopath is born into the lap of luxury and power?
That's what happens with caesar. I can't imagine is used as an example of that
So when alex compares caesar to trump
He well, it's a good he's indicating that either he hasn't read the book that he's basing his life on or he's completely lost
Track of anything it's it's a good thing that this is purely a hypothetical
It's a good thing that we have no real world concrete examples of psychopaths being born into wealth
There's there's that's a laughable situation dan right. How dare you even bring it up to me?
It is so beyond the realm of understanding. I I understand but like, uh, gary allen's assessment is a little bit
Baseline real surface, but at the same time, you know, yeah, sure psychopaths are born into rich places
oftentimes though what you end up with is
Well, no they do the similar shit the poor psychopath. Yeah, but a lot of times they can sublimate it into like, um
You know getting their jollies off of crushing competition and stuff like that
As opposed to actually murdering. Yeah. Yeah, which is something that isn't accessible to or they can do both
If you're william randolph-hurst
Sure, and there are other examples too, but be that as it may alex is fucking stupid. That is crazy nonsense
Trump isn't going to be killed in march, but alex already knows that and he's laid track for it
Plans can change now march is also a good time to say now because then you've got a long wait
And people will forget that you even yeah, you people forget you even said it and anybody who did bring it up
Then you could then you've got the hedge you got at least three months of pretending
It's going to happen and then four months of time
To get it out of people's memory exactly and in that time you can raise a bunch of money with the panic of what's coming
The summer of rage the summer of rage. Oh, yeah
It's all bullshit the winter of our mal content. Yeah, so alex now
Wants to talk about the immigrants that are in europe as opposed to the immigrants that he hates here
Don't think what he's saying here is true
And that's it. That's why 80 plus percent of the islamic
Middle-eastern north african invaders who were brought in the last five years to europe now. It's 12 million of them
80 plus percent never get a job and you know who they deport
Anyone that converts to christianity this is the news
What one gets a job?
So you're out of north africa the middle east you go i want to be a christian and i want a job and i like this
I don't like that your ass is shipped out. I don't like that at all
You're like you you want to walk around your nightgown all day and wipe your ass with your hand and do all the rest of it
You are
Staying you are golden, baby
All right
All right, this is this is the most uh, this is non-stop racism. I've heard from uh from our show
Like we've we've covered a lot of non-stop racism, but man
This is like heavy hitting like but haymakers left and right of racism and just the wide spectrum
Oh, yeah, he's going after me. Oh, mexicans get out of there north africans get out of there. Oh, yeah
He's going to the lgbt community. He's he's calling everybody. Oh, yeah
So on some level I do think that our prediction of like he's gonna have no reason to hold back anymore
It seems like it's fairly accurate. Yeah
He can just call immigrants invaders. I mean he does that anyway. That's right new
But he seems to be relishing it a lot more. He does it. He does seem to enjoy his newfound
A lack of consequences. Yeah, yeah
But look he has a theory here in this next clip about what happens if you are against info wars
And as someone who is against info wars and has been putting out, uh, two to three
Long podcasts about that very thing every week for two years
I will say that what what he's about to say happens when you are against info wars
Not true. Are you sure not true? Well, I will withhold judgment because I am also against it
But I don't know what he's about to say. So maybe he's right
Sorry, two false starts there. Here we go
If you lie about info wars or or a property body else, they push your video
the big thing about
Ah
I mean Alex would suggest that we're lying about him
And no one is pushing. No one's pushing our shit, man. No, no, sir
Now so that's funny. But what he says next is even funnier
The big thing about killing on the no is they never get demonetized. They just got banned from red
Because it's literal delusional garbage. I mean I talked to folks
Trump hates sessions
He hates mohler, you know, it's a real death battle. It's it's not oh mohler is good and alex is bad
He'll sue me and get no alex's alex was actually the bad guy
You said all we all go down the rabbit hole. We all go together this cult talk
I'll get to that later. But this whole situation
Alex says all the time we hang together or we hang separate
How is that in any way different than what he's saying q anon is saying that's cult shit
Now beyond that this is so fucking funny to me because he's been vaguely anti q anon for the entire time
It's been going on but only because he wants zack to be more important
Yeah, he wants his version of q anon to be the one that goes viral and it fucking didn't so he's been petty and jealous about that
But at the same time
Jerome corsi has been on his payroll
Jerome corsi was writing a goddamn book about decoding the truths of q anon god damn it
So this whole time he's been paying Jerome corsi to write
Also, I'm not gonna lie to you. What very simple explanation alex. Um
Here's why q anon is more popular
Uh
It's anon and your dude is named zack. That's a pr- yeah q anon
Fun to say very exciting much. You don't know who that guy is
Zack he was on saved by the bell man
Yeah, nobody's gonna fourth wall break this bullshit
And also I think that one of the things that appealed to people about q anon is the idea that you have to put the pieces together yourself
You know, there is an element of like a nice little mystery
I think you said it on a recent episode like make make me feel like i'm smart for figuring this out
Yeah, and I think that q anon appealed to people's desire to pretend their detectives and like figure out
Oh, what does this cryptic nonsense mean and alex doesn't provide them with that because he's just like
I'm talking about china trying to kill crump and these immigrants that are coming in with their battle system
And they're on horseback and they have guns too specific too specific back off back off and our products
are
Game changing
It's like you don't have any subtext
There's nothing there's no mystery to figure out here
And that's why whenever we go back and listen to episodes to try and trace his path on stuff
It's not that hard it takes a long time because you have to listen to the episodes and you have to digest what he's saying
Yeah, but in terms of solving a mystery he just tells you everything
Yeah, pretty much you just the which is comforting for the people who listen to him
I assume maybe but I don't think they're paying attention
The only thing that you really have to do is be able to suss out when he's telling the truth
And when he's lying and bragging and stuff like that, which I think if you listen to it enough
You can kind of get the tone in his voice. There's there's
There's there's tricks about yeah at this point
I feel like even without any of your research
I would be able to just by ear be like that part's bullshit. Yeah. Oh
Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you know, it sounds like it might be plausible
But guess what I heard the I heard the lilt. Uh-huh. That's a lie. Yeah, that's the plot of uh early hg wells
Yeah, exactly. That is not uh, yeah
Listen up more lock. Fuck off
So I'm gonna skip this next clip because it's not really all that important
It's just alex saying that he thinks that the border patrol is nice now. Oh, they're nice. Are they too nice now?
I don't think he said too nice, but he's saying they're like they're cool
Oh, are they not sure are there are there more children in detention now than there were
Uh, just a few short weeks ago whenever the government whenever the justice system said that that shouldn't fucking be happening period
He denies that that's the case
That doesn't read that's not real the children who are
Being held. It's good that they are
And then also the aclu is somehow to blame. I don't care. I don't want to get into it. All right. All right
The aclu set up the system. What which is not what the aclu does, but I don't really give a shit
I mean I give a shit about the people who are being you know mistreated and stuff like that
But I don't really care about alex's version of it because it's not really that much of the episode
No, it's just sort of in passing. Yeah, and it's so much more important that at this point. Oh, and shroyer joins the proceedings
Why is oh and shroyer there because alex is having some fucking issues about his masculinity
And he needs to sit down with oh and shroyer and get to the bottom
Okay, okay
this
This is a mic down this the rest of the episode is mic down for me, huh?
No, no, no, this is only going to cover a little bit and then we will have the
The coup de gras at the end. All right, uh, but this clip
This made me laugh so fucking hard when I was listening to this
Nothing like some good old country on the open road, huh?
Absolutely, you know, you ever see these guys that strut around
Try to act big and tough and it you look at them. It seems annoying
Like you're you know trying to act like an alpha male. Yeah, but you know, maybe
I was the person that was cowed
Because it's up to us that our alpha males actually care about society to not let the weird little twisted beta males
Uh, who crave power dominate us and they know that we have a conscience so they manipulate it
So so here's an example
I've got and I'm not bragging about it. It's actually freakish. Yes, you are my neck is freakishly large
20 inches and it's not fat and my chest is freakishly large
I mean my chest is almost as big as Arnold Schwarzenegger's. Oh, yeah
Okay, then I got a big belly too, but the whole point is is that ever since high school
Like big tough guys would say oh, you're a punk. You want to fight when you walk around with your chest stuck out
I was like, no, I'm just standing up straight might have to stand up straight. I'm not standing up straight. It looks ridiculous
And so the point is is that my so since I was a teenager
I kind of like act like I'm a little wizard, you know, I walk around
I kind of just do like this so people don't recognize me or mess with me
But you know what now that people attack me for the first time in my life. It's not an arrogance. It's a pride
Now I went walking into a grocery store this morning
I actually walked like a man supposed to walk and everybody was looking at me and they were like damn that guy looks like a badass
And the whole point was
All of that now is the fact they're attacking me and I'm more proud than I've ever been
And I don't say like I was ashamed of myself before I wasn't trying to stand out before
Because I was already confident
But now that they want to come boo at me at tables and boo at me on the street and and take that down and like
You know just me like 18 try to make me ashamed of myself
Now because they're doing that
Now now I'm going to actually hold my head. I so now
I walked into hotel the other night to this interview
And I walked right in there and I walked through my head up chest out everything else
Every woman basically came running and again, it's not bragging about
I'm handsome. It's it's not that it's it's confidence
It's that america has the will has the spirit has the destiny has the future
But those of us that are strong
We are reserved because we were almost embarrassed by our power. Okay
By the way, hey dan hold on one second that whole time. Owen shroyer is sitting there silently like daddy
Could you could you please play the first?
Uh, I don't know 30 seconds of that clip one more time. Sure
Nothing like some good old country on the open road. That's all you need right now. You ever see these guys just strut around. There we go
Keep going. Okay
See these guys strut around you look at them. It seems annoying
Seems annoying trying to act like an alpha male trying to act like an alpha male
maybe
I was the person that was called
Okay, now you can stop right there. Okay, you ever see these guys dan. Yeah, who walk around the chest out annoying chest out
Looking annoying trying to act like an alpha male trying to flex
Uh, have you ever heard the second fucking half of that clip where he describes exactly that goddamn behavior?
I got a big old neck. I walk into the store with uh, my
Chest out and ladies come around
Yes, you you
I'd like to remind you that like
That's the most projecty projection i've ever heard projected
Earlier in the episode alex said that there's an invading army coming from mexico and uh, by the way
The eastern seaboard is about to be hit by a giant hurricane that he never mentions once in this entire episode
But he does have to spend time talking about how big his chest is to oan
He has to impress oan because oan represents youth. It's what he's lost oan represents god
What if he drinks oan's blood you might what if he spends 18 000?
Why would he know the exact price of a quart of a child's blood if he did not?
Buy children's blood dan seems like he might have an
Into the market i think he knows but you know oan really i think i touched on something there
He represents that thing that alex cannot get back
And i think you like the two of them have this weird uh paternal
Child relationship going on like oan really wants to impress alex and alex really wants to impress oan
Like there is of it's not a employee employer relationship. They've got going on. It's a weird dudes or gross relationship
Well, there's a point. I don't have the clip of it, but there's a point where oan is like alex alex alex. You are a bad ass
Calm down
He has to like reassure him
He's a badass
There's nothing less badass than somebody being like hey, no
You are a badass. You're such as the bad boy. Who's a badass as you that's who you are
So ostensibly the reason that oan's supposed to be on is because that video that was in the daily caller came out
And oan went to a uh, I guess liberal
Meeting of some sort. I don't know sure um, and he asked the speaker about it about the uh, like what about all these
Armored men coming across the border and also
What about abortion and the speaker is like uh, oh looks like info wars is here
And they're like anybody else got a question
What's really funny is that after that oan is like i've got a stack of news here
He's literally he said he has a stack of news in the video they play from him going to this meeting
Oh, i've never been proud of the meeting. He has a stack never been prouder. You could almost see a gleam and alex is
Of course so proud of his local of course using his own expressions when he goes and invades people
Also, the other thing that I thought was really fucked up
I don't have a clip of this because again, I got it. We got a lot to get through
Um oan says if you kick us off facebook, we'll come into 3d reality where god isn't charged
Which leaves me to believe that he thinks god isn't in charge on facebook. What what what somehow facebook has usurped god
What is what which is troubling
Man now I really want to find out more about oan shroyer's very clear daddy issues
I I would say that there's something going on. Oh, yeah, but let's not drift on the wrong side of the goldwater rule
We don't know him. I do know that he hero worships alex in a very unhealthy way
Yeah, and alex likes it man. It's gonna be it's gonna be oan shroyer is cruising for like the worst decade of his life
In like two years fucking at least five year info wars hangover. Yeah, he's gonna he's gonna do the the
brad pit and
Fuck now. I can't remember the name of the movie. It's fight club. No, it's not supposed to talk about it
It's the one where he uh, he goes on the ship seven years in to bet. No was the other one
He's on a ship. He was smoking uh opium and he grew his hair real long
His wife was a native american for a while fight club. Okay, you're right. That was fight club
So we have another clip here from oan and alex just having a bull session
This is like they both really need to talk to somebody about their bodies
Like and unfortunately, they're doing it on air to each other
But it really is something that you should probably talk to a therapist about I think there's some dysmorphia going on here
I don't want to judge them for it
But I do because it's on air on a show where you're saying that
Immigrants are invaders and shit like that. So go fuck off. You don't really get much sympathy for me
And look and it's kind of embarrassing, you know like walk around like you're trying to be one of those big guys
But I am a big guy. So I shouldn't be embarrassed of it. I'm just saying I'm not gonna hunt you
But they've actually made me come out of my shop. Actually, this is this is an interesting
Paths to go down alex because there's this whole trend right now happening about body shaming, right?
And so it's like if you're overweight and obese like they want you to show off your body like like
I mean women are wearing like yoga pants now that I mean it should almost be illegal
But like if you're actually in shape like a fit guy like sometimes alex
It's like weird like I feel bad like if I go out in a muscle shirt walking because you're in great shape
And there's like a bunch of what do you like three percent body fat?
Probably something like that maybe if you're five already on the day but
It's like
If you walk around in a muscle shirt and you're a big tough guy or whatever like you're kind of like like oh
Yeah, thanks for rubbing it in you know I'm saying but if you're someone overweight
That chooses to be overweight and then chooses to you know
Scoot around on the store on your scooter instead of walking and stuff like that like oh, it's like going to the antifa meetings
These women go I love satan. I kill my babies and I stink
Real quick. He's saying antifa meetings, but that's the exact same thing he claimed about when he would protest abortion rallies
He's just reusing material. This is hacky. This is like if
This is like if uh, there was a sketch where woody allen war and arnold swartz and eggersuit
Like this is exactly the kind of neuroses that would come out. It's weird man. It's super weird
Gross and then also the idea that oh and it's like if you're too hot people hate you
It's like god just fuck off everyone. We've what are you talking about? We've heard this line before and it's stupid
Yeah, it was dumb then it's dumb now. You're not getting any smarter. Why do you find?
Why are you coming to this like it's brand new?
Well, because that's what all of these people are the Ben Shapiro's of the world the jordan petersons the sam harris is
The staphon molla news all of the intellectual dark web all of their stock and trade is really just
Rephrasing conversations. We've already had yeah as a society and we've rejected out of hand. Yeah. Oh, that's stupid
Yeah, in the same way that that's that's what owens do in here. It's just what if toxic masculinity
Acted like it was smart. What if women really are fucking stupid? Oh, ha ha ha. What if tim allen was right all along?
What if there are actual
qualitative differences between races hold on now that that's an interesting conversation now. What if
You know like really who everyone is is judging is people who are too hot
Oh, aren't they the real victims here dan? Aren't they the real victims if we just don't call people fat and say that
They're ugly and stupid and
Pretend that there's a morality based to people's physical appearance the next thing you know
We're gonna be in Harrison Bergeron and I'm gonna have to wear glasses that make me blind because my vision's too good
Oh, no, oh, no
Fucking baby. Oh, you know what? I feel so bad that we should outlaw
People that I find unattractive wearing tight clothes a fucking baby. What a baby
So Owen has one more thing to say here that I think is really funny and actually it changed some of my political beliefs
Yeah, not in the way. Owen would hope
You know, uh, Beto O'Rourke a fake name
They put Beto in his name to you know make him, you know, uh, voteable
They think Hispanics will just oh vote a vote of vote. It's like Sylvia Garcia. Is that your real name?
I mean, I don't know these democrats. They always manipulate any way to get votes
But Beto O'Rourke plays a concert with Willie Nelson. So Willie Nelson is now promoting Beto O'Rourke to defeat Ted Cruz
Which is bad. Ted Cruz is a great voting record Beto O'Rourke is an anti conservative anti trump liberal nut job phony democrat
So what am I gonna do? I can't compete with Willie Nelson. Wait a second. Maybe I can you can't no, you can't
Uh, so hey, man, excuse me, Owen. I know you got a inflated view of yourself
Still not gonna still not gonna touch Willie Nelson, my friend now
I will say that absent any other information saying that is that her real name. I don't know is an expression of racism
That is absolutely because you're not okay. You know what?
It's very easy to find out if something is someone's real name. You guys look that up. Can you? Yeah, you can
How you can't especially public figures and people who are sitting in office name one way but google it
So you can do that. I don't care. I'm not even gonna look into that person. Uh, Sylvia Garcia. I don't give a shit
I believe that's her name
And unless Owen's going to present me with some sort of evidence that it's not
I just see that as an expression of him questioning somebody's a minority bona fide or something
Yeah, now Beto O'Rourke is an interesting case because Beto is not his real name
His birth name is Robert Francis O'Rourke
But he started going by Beto in his primary school days because Beto is a Spanish nickname for Robert
He's probably had something to do with the fact that he grew up in El Paso
Which i'm not sure if you know this is literally on the border of mexico and 80.7 of the population of El Paso has some
Sort of hispanic heritage. He went to Carlos Rivera elementary school in El Paso high school
That school by the way El Paso high school is a school that the clan tried to rename Sam Houston high school in 1922
Great. Good work guys. Beto has you guys are doing it
Beto is grown up surrounded by an immersed in latinx heritage and the idea that most of his friends growing up were probably hispanic
Uh makes it makes a complete sense that he would end up with a Spanish inspired nickname that stuck
I think Beto is a fun name. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Yeah, I'm fine with it
Also, I was a bit wishy-washy about Beto until Alex and Owen made me look into him a little bit
No, he's pretty fucking great. I'm all in. I know he's great though
I would support a sack of potatoes on the ballot against Ted Cruz
Beto pushed me over the line when I learned that he used to be the bassist in a band called fos
Oh, yeah, which featured sedric bixler's avala from at the drive-in. Oh, he did. Oh, he was
What do you mean? You didn't know that that's the only thing to know about Beto. All right. Yeah. Yeah, he's progressive or whatever
But he was in a band with the guy from at the drive-in
Come on, dude. That's nuts. Yeah
And the mars volta this dude fucking beto
president for life
Actually, no scratch that
Uh at the drive-in as a concept president for life. I don't know about that. A lot of that doesn't hold up
Okay, a lot of it does. Anyway, uh
A lot of mars volta doesn't a lot of mars volta doesn't little bit indulgent there. Hey, man. Uh
The oh shit. What's the name of it?
What rats in the cemetery sanitarium? No shit that album combatorium. Yeah, that one's a great album. Yeah, great album
It's good later albums
Little self-indulgent. I will say from the jump a little self-indulgent a little bit. It worked better earlier, but
Great great drumming all still better than really great drummer. Anyway, let's move along
Can't get too bogged down in the world of uh of uh old old timey yelling rock. I don't know what to call it
Don't worry about it. Um, hey, by the way, that's not my genre at all
But my friends were super into at the drive-in and thank I am glad they were because I enjoyed the hell out of that
Hey, man, I love I love a band that could put together three concept albums
I'm always going to go with the look whether they're good or not
Love Dan the automator. I do love Dan the automator. Nothing
Exactly. Um, so Jordan
Yes, Dan
Have we come to it? We have come to the point where your life became great. No, not my life became great, but we have
Definitely the strongest indication that alex jones's life is not great
Which makes me giggle because he's a pile of shit. Yeah, fuck off
This starts with what I would describe as an absolute indication that he listens to our show
Okay, and then by the end of this clip
We see where the future of info wars lies and my friend it ain't a good place
From the front lines of the information war it's alex jones
Boys tell how about your friend and left his living in cheap hotel
The desert's quiet cleveland's cold alex if you want to donate and become a policy walk
There's a there's a link visit alexmyne.com
But save a few for lefty two god we could do at this a karaoke. How what about the bridging of worlds? No, no, no, yeah, i'm out
He only did what he had to do
And now he's grown old
Hardly moral haggard died this year last year
Last year
Don rad Padilla is here. I'm really impressed with how smart he is and i'm doing him here because we're doing a business venture together
But he doesn't want to get into that and that's fine. He wants to get into the college conspiracy
This is an example is but i want to get into info wars. Yes. Dot com
info wars. Yes info wars. Yes. Dot com
Now i'm not going to tell you what this is just yet. All right, but just know
It's bad news. Okay. Uh, also I believe that moral haggard died. Does anybody know
Who owns info wars? No. Dot com. I think someone did buy it. I think I saw a tweet
I I I think maybe his ex-wife bought it. I think kelly might have bought info wars. No
Which is that's pretty funny. It's crazy that alex wouldn't buy that
That's pretty funny
But to not like I mean he didn't own info wars.com when he started info wars
Right, like someone else was sitting on that for a really long time
So the idea that he wouldn't cover his bases and get info wars. No is like, yeah, that's that's alex
I mean if I if it was me and I was going to come up with a knowledge fight. Yes. Dot com
We would also own knowledge fight. No knowledge fight. Maybe knowledge fight possibly
Knowledge fight indetermined. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's just good planning
So in this next clip alex explains that he's going to invade europe, which is cool
By himself and then gets back to this idea. How many horses does he have many?
But then he gets back to this idea of the college conspiracy that conrad pedia wants to talk about also by the way
I had a really tough time with figuring out who conrad pedia is because there's also an mma fighter named conrad pedia
It's not him. It's not him different cat different cat. Yeah, okay
So I just want the listeners to know
Obviously, this is something good to get it on the ground level of info wars. Yes. Dot com
I just like I told you trump was good and to get into the beginning of it and they're also not
Sponsors and supporters. So we like that but I already heard about them for years
And then we we're doing a lot of stuff in europe. That's where they're in the top
Recompanies in england and germany in places. So that's perfect for our european invasion. We're about to launch
I mean, you'll never know. We launched it
I mean the enemy listens to my phones. They know what we're doing
But I let's just leave it at that the european invasion will begin get the british invasion
Well, you know with the with the beetles and stuff. We'll get ready for the american invasion with the info war
And i'm just going to stop right there probably not gonna be just enjoy it
Uh, uh, you know listeners real breadcrumbs. You know as one of us goes we all know
But uh conrad padilla, thank you for joining us. You got the floor for the rest of the hour get into the college conspiracy
So he's going to invade europe. There's world leaders involved. You're just fucking talking about nigel farage
Who gives a fuck? Yeah, and if you want to go with like the beetles analogy now, it's not the right time
Uh, the big news about the beetles is that john lennon and paul mccartney jacked off together
So I imagine he's just saying that him and nigel farage did a little bit of mutual masturbation
You know, that's what i'm guessing
I I don't know if you're in the biggest band in the world. Oh, totally right at the time
Totally and you've had sex with literally everybody there is to have sex with
The only thing left for you is to jerk off next to the guy who's who's also fucked everybody too
I don't I don't find anything wrong with that. I don't even think that's a fun story
I don't think that's great all the puns that people are working out like a billion people
I really didn't I really didn't know that that was is that real. Oh, yeah, really? That was a story that came out
Yeah, oh
But that sounds great. Like that's like david bowie and mcjagger. How did you not see the billion people because i'm off
I'm off twitter. I'm off facebook. I'm off all of it, man
I think billion people tweeted come together. Of course, of course. That's the simplest way to go. Yeah, so that's fun
Anyway, he's now i'm so i'm happy for them
Just like i'm happy for david bowie and mcjagger when they fucked good for you guys have a great old time or richard prior and uh
Was it who was that? Oh, shit. Now. I can't remember Ernest Hemingway
Wasn't Ernest Hemingway. I don't think it was. Why was that your poll? I don't know
Because it was uh, uh bogart humphrey bogart. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. No. No, it wasn't it was some actor
Wait, why would it? Why would it be humphrey bogart? I just i don't know if humphrey bogart thinking murl haggard now
And getting murl haggard out of my head. I somehow jumped to um, uh, who cares?
Dan, I hate to break it to you, but humphrey bogart two is dead. It was marlon brando
That's who it was that sounds right. Yeah. Yeah. Quincy jones was talking about it
Yeah, oh, that's right on that on that fantastic interview that quincy jones gave that was such a fucking delight. Yeah
Yeah, I don't all these kids don't understand music also, uh
Humphrey bogart used to fuck richard prior. I don't know. Whatever. Hey, hey
You gotta you gotta much like uh, like rich people infusing
Uh young blood as a novelty sometimes, you know, if you're not gay you still gotta
You're rich you're famous gonna go give swing a little bit. You get high as fuck one night. You just figure
Hey, what do we what are we doing not doing this? You know wrong with experiment? Yeah
Anyway, uh the college conspiracy keeps coming up and you might think that that has something to do with student loans being abusive
You might think it has something to do with people not being necessarily prepared for the world outside
By the educational system as it is and that second one is kind of close to what uh, padilla wants to talk about
But i'll let him lay out his his version of the college. All right, here we go
Well, that our whole system alex teaches, uh, why do they all go to school get your higher education?
And somehow you're gonna go out there and get this
This job that's gonna pay you a whole bunch of money
Well, what's happening right now is you got kids right now who have master's degree
That are working at starbucks and they're working in Minnesota
And they can't find by the way starbucks has great benefits
The the job's a doctor because everybody's doing the same thing now
There's a there's an even the huffing post it meant it should be abolished at 90 percent. You never get your money back
That's right. Well, the biggest problem we have right now is people don't realize the debt that's being abolished
I think college should be the college debt that's happening right now
That in most cases doesn't even have to be paid back. Well, somebody's gonna have to pay it back. Why so our system is teaching
Yeah, no, it's actually a hard to get a bunch of debt. They made it a lot
And by the way, you can't buy a house
You can't declare bankruptcy the way that you can actually work, you know, I know effectively running your life
So they're literally putting a ball and chain on them. Yes. It's a dentured servitude, right? Yes
And that's I think that's what the whole point is is that our system's not teaching one of the most important things
Which is entrepreneurship
You know, all right. Now that's not the problem
I look at entrepreneurship as you know, people some people have an issue with trump being in the office
Well, Trump's an entrepreneur. Cool. No, he's not. He's a
He's the fucking beneficiary of nepotism on a grand scale and on top of that fucking white nationalism
He is a product purely of white nationalism
This is a man born
Raised and supported by a kkk member who was then elected to office
Purely based on how racist he was that is
Trump is emblematic of white supremacy. Trump is the dumbest
Least fucking valuable human being on the goddamn planet
Supported by this goddamn bullshit world that we live in that is fucking
Unsettling to describe him as an entrepreneur
Jordan
Look, I agree. You said you wanted to get out of here before
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's inf, uh, that just listening to that
It's pretty bad. It's pretty bad. So the college conspiracy as I hear him laying it out is that
They don't teach entrepreneurship, right?
Which is you know, I mean, I don't think that that's necessarily the main problem
But none dare graduate a conspiracy, right? I would be willing to have that conversation with someone if they were to bring it up
You know, like that to me isn't isn't like how dare you or anything like that
I don't I don't find that position to be that wild
That's don't they don't they have like the specific degrees
Are there specific schools specifically for entrepreneurs? Yeah, sure
But also, I mean, I think you could make an argument that you know
You got to have a biology credit in most undergraduate degrees
You got to have a chemistry credit in most universities and you I know from going to college
I didn't need to have a business class or anything like that
No, I could see an argument being made that like in terms of preparing people for the life outside of pr, uh, prison
Outside of college
floating slip
Outside of college it would be beneficial for them to prepare and have some sort of an understanding of economics business that sort of thing
I really feel like that's high school. Shit. Like you should sure freshman year. You should have like a then you're passing the
Here's how fucking credit cards work
But but a lot of times home economics and that sort of stuff or like civics classes in high school
Are prerequisites and they are required and they don't do a good job
All you're doing is pushing the back the buck back further
Wherever you do it people should be prepared in some way. Yeah now whether you want to make the argument
It's in high school or it's in college. I'm listening both sides. I'm fine again with that conversation
Now
It's unfortunate. Here we go. This is a self-serving argument. Oh surprise
Now would he perhaps have some sort of
I don't know hold on some some like maybe he's putting together
If he thinks that the colleges aren't doing it
Are you saying that he might think that there's an opening
For someone to step in and do it to teach entrepreneurship. Yeah, you might be way too lost
I'm sorry, is he instead selling a vhs tape where he gives advice you're not far off
Of course, so there's a pamphlet you can buy for 25 dollars Conrad Padilla was like a trader
Like in stocks and what have you he was unhappy with his life
And that is where in this next clip dude, this is a mic down very seriously
Because this is where everything is going to change for alex remember he brought up info wars. Yes
We're going to find out a little bit about it. We're going to all say info wars. Yes, dude
I'm going to say info wars. Oh, no
So what I started realizing was this is not what I want to do for the rest of my life
So
This profession came around, you know network marketing and melam as you know, sometimes people have a stigma of it with realities
Most people don't really actually know that it's been around for over a hundred years
And what they and what what a lot of people don't actually realize is that
This profession is so proven around the world that's helped millions of people out there
Be able to go into entrepreneurship. Well mainstream media demonizes it. There's some good companies some bad
But it's a model built around good products. That's why I've been offered hundreds of these deals
I've only done two yeah when it's a great product line
It's already been successful and then it just gives people a position to get other folks
Under them also outselling
It's it's it's and with products like
We should get rid of the products because it also funds the show now and it's a win-win
I mean these are some of the best products out there
Well, they are see the the the reason that I was when I became an independent
Distributor for genus
The the the biggest thing that I liked about the company is that the owners of the company
Were were successful business people before genus. They already they were really successful people
So if you are not putting the pieces together, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait
So alex
Has become a mid-level
multi-level marketing scam guy
For genus
You bet you so he's not even running his own
mlm anymore
He is just an independent contractor for a multi-level marketing scheme and that's what info wars. Yes is
It's a funnel to get people to sign up to be distributors for that can't be real
That's the saddest thing I've ever heard. It's pretty remarkable. That's the saddest thing I've ever heard. I'm genuinely sad
Yeah, I mean it's pretty it's pretty wild stuff. I mean at the bottom of info wars. Yes page
Like if you go to info wars, yes dot com and you scroll all the way to the bottom
There's a disclaimer quote this site is owned and operated by an independent junez contra distributor
In other words alex jones is now a junez distributor. That's not all that's going on
He's trying to recruit people to sell junez products. Well, yeah, but that's how the multi-level marketing works exactly
What the shit? You know what I I have
Twice in my life twice in my life and these are two
Generative formative experiences for me. All right. All right first when my when I was like
nine
my dad bought a timeshare
And somehow even then when he was explaining it to me, I was like
This is a bad idea. Hey, this is this is not valuable
You're dumb right and then again when I was like
22 my dad started telling me about this. Oh, so there's this thing. Okay. So what you do right is they
It's not like they sell anything right is that they give you a membership and it with through this membership
You get discounts, you know and if you tell other people about this membership and they get this membership
They have to pay a small fee
You know, I have to pay a small fee
But the more people you tell the better discounts you get and then actually you get like a kickback for every person who signs up
Using your information. I can't imagine how your dad ended up in a cult. I know right. It's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy
It's weird. Yeah, it's weird how he doesn't understand when he's being conned when I was 18 years old
I went to a cutco meeting, you know cutco. Oh, I've heard of yeah
I remember cutco. So at the time I was working at a movie theater making five five fifteen an hour
At this movie theater sweeping up popcorn
Working the concession stand and what have you I would later go on to manage that theater
As a hero of the formate theater, right who cares selling knives all the way at that point
I walked out to my car and someone had put a flyer for cutco in there
It was on all the cars and I was like, yeah, I don't know. Maybe I'll go check out this seminar or whatever
Now at the same time my then roommate was trying to make a reality show about my life because I was completely out of control
And we had a handy camp. We had a little digital video camera
So we decided wouldn't it be fun if I got really drunk and went to this cutco meeting? Yes, it would be because it's a cattle call
It's just tons. Yeah, no anybody. We knew that was going to be the case
So I got fucking wasted and then we went he drove we were safe good
We brought the video camera
Yeah, we get to the door and they're like you cannot videotape of course not
So he had to wait in the car and I just just fucking wasted and now like there's not even going to be video of this
Well, what am I? What am I doing? Why did I stay? Yeah?
So it's just a sales pitch where they're like cutting pennies and stuff like that. Yeah
It's exactly and it's very rah rah and there's always the guy who's like now you might you might say to yourself
There's no way. This is too good to be true
I'm going to bring up mr. And mrs. Derrickson
And they are going to tell you exactly how it changed their life
They went from having some sort of regular real estate job where you sell real estate to making
$38,000 per month. Does everybody here want to make $38,000 per month?
There wasn't any there wasn't anyone like that, but the guy who was running it that was his story
Yeah, it's me myself. Yeah, I don't trust you. Yeah, but then there was obviously one person in the audience who was playing
It was just like, oh my god, that's amazing
Stuff like that
And so I'm drunk and I like I can't make eye contact with the guy or anything. I'm like
Like I probably had like 13 beers before I went like that's wasted and this was a day job
This was a day game. This was in the evening the meeting. Yeah, but like what five six
It might have been closer. Yeah, it might have been around seven eight something like that
That's not terrible 13 beers before eight is fine. I remember it being dark out and I had the day off from the theater
And I was I was a champ at the time. Yeah. Yeah, you start drinking at noon. If you're not at 13 beers by eight
I'm disappointed in you. I am not buzzed. I am drunk
Okay, and I'm like slouching in my chair and like probably I probably burped a bit or whatever
Absolutely, and I'm just sitting there thinking like I gotta this is gotta end. I gotta get out of here
It went on for like an hour. Yeah, and then after the hour
What he did was the guy who was running the seminar who was clearly just like he was the one who put the flyers around
He's trying to recruit more people so he can make money off them
So what he does is he bring he brought everyone into his office
two at a time
And he gave the speech that he obviously gave to every single group of two
I was like, I wanted to bring you guys in here because you are uh, you know, I could tell you you have it or whatever
Oh my god, you transparent bullshitter
I was in there with a girl who was like very chipper and like clearly kind of interested
She was a go-getter a little bit. Yeah, and I'm drunk
And so he was like he was pointing at her and was like you seem to have the go-getter spirit
I think you have a good future in this and he looked over at me
He was like you you make great eye contact
I
Can't say for sure whether or not I laughed in his face, but I'm like you do how dare first of all
I'm drunk second. I have a cross-eye like what are you doing?
That's the one thing you thought of
Like so he offered us both positions and of course sure it's a thing where it's like, you know
You have to pay a bunch of money to get your set of knives that you can then walk around
It's crazy how you have to buy the knives first and then you oh it's that standard setup
I went in there and it's like you're a newsie in the 1910s right right
So they they tried to get me to you know
They would constantly contact me after that and we're like we don't want to set up this thing
Get your package together and this is before spam filter in your email or even like calling me
You know really yeah, yeah gross and so I was I always ignored them and all that and I had a buddy who
It was maybe a year later. I'd moved and I was living with another guy guy I knew from high school who's kind of um
He's a little impressionable and all that so he got a cutco meeting and he thought it was no
He thought it was big stuff
Oh that poor kid the potential to make so much money was in front of him
All it takes is me working hard. It's it's all about you and so I told him I was like man
I went to one of those meetings and I told him the story that I just told and like they're con artists
This is a scam. Yeah, he's like no, but I know someone who did it and they made a ton of money
I'm like but also consider how alienated they are from everybody who used to be their friends
Because I knew the guy too. Yeah, you know that like that's the path. You're gonna have to go down
You're gonna piss off your family
You might get some pity purchases and then you're gonna get fucked with all of these expensive knives that you have to buy
As showcase knives and he wouldn't listen to me. He ended up sinking like a thousand two thousand dollars
And just getting screwed by this pyramid scheme. So now this is what alex is doing
Whoa, I don't like you saying pyramid scheme damn. Fine. Pyramid scheme has a really negative connotation
I prefer multi-level marketing scheme fine
So in the end of that last clip pedia, none dare call it a scam
None dare call it a pyramid
Yeah, so in that last clip at the end there what uh, pedia was saying is that like what made me attracted to this company
Was that the the founders of it came in with such success in business?
You know, like they were very successful people now, jordan
I'd like to tell you that junez is a multi-level marketing scheme started by wendy lewis and randy ray
Previous to starting this health supplement scam company. The two operated another multi-level marketing uh business
Called fuel freedom international
Where they sold a product called mpg caps, which allegedly helped your oh, you gotta have an mpg cap
It would help your car. I've got eight mpg caps. See that's great because it helps your car use gas more efficiently
That's what I've always wanted. Ultimately. This was shown to be complete bullshit. What from truth and advertising quote in february
2009 ray as ceo and co-owner of this fuel freedom
Signed an assurance of voluntary compliance with florida's office of attorney general and the company paid a hundred thousand dollars
And promised uh, or prohibit they were prohibited from making false claims in their business
Since they could no longer legally make false claims of fuel fuel freedom
They closed down shop and started junez because regulation of the supplement industry is nearly non-existent
Yeah, it's almost like you can just start selling bullshit and call it something that's got health benefits because there are
billion dollar companies that have lobbied congress to
Ensure that they're not covered by the fda. So these people uh, wendy lewis and randy ray who started a multi-level marketing company
That sold a fraudulent product which got them a hundred thousand dollar fine by the attorney general of florida
And they had to cease operations because the jig was up
They they brought that kind of success into junez when they started it. You know what i'm gonna be honest
Uh, that's a brilliant move on their part. I'm gonna give them credit for that
If you get caught if you get caught it's like but here's the problem nobody gets scammed quite like a scammer
Totally, that's what's happening to alex. That's what's happening right now. He is getting scammed
So hard and he doesn't even know it and it's it's beautiful to watch and it's so much worse than you can even imagine
Like right now
This show info wars at this point on this episode turns into a junez infomercial. No
The point is is that this is a great sponsor for us. It's a great business for you. It's not a sponsor
I have my own supplements. I have my own products that are excellent as well
And I go out and find out whatever the best is. Well, this is something that comes up to the info wars life
Standard real quick all the products in the info wars store are now on harsh discounts
And some of that is pretty normal. The easter sale might still be in effect
Yeah, they're really easter sale from six years ago. They're they're really
Marked down a lot of stuff is and alex earlier in this episode got on air and said that the situation with his
Is what is it the iodine?
This x2 the survival shield x2 sure the the crystal iodine the deep earth iodine earth iodine
He said that this is he has on the website if you go it says this is the last shipment of this
No shit now. I know we've heard him say that before
Yeah, that's true based on the fact that he is now bringing in this junez
Multilevel marketing scheme and he's saying this is going to fund the operation
I think that he's not working with dr. Group anymore
I think that probably a lot of the old product you think dr. Group has bailed
Well, I would if I were him his oh, yeah, I know you would absolutely menacing like crazy
He's a toxic brand. Yeah, and dr. Group sells detoxes. So he doesn't want to get involved with the toxic brand pass
So alex probably minus one well alex has a situation here where dr. Group was very happy to be in this arrangement with him where
He would rename products and let alex sell them and take his cut of it
Yeah, but now that alex's reach is so gone. He's not able to promote his products on youtube
He's not able to promote his products on facebook and twitter and all these other places
What good is it for him to private label all this stuff? When was the last time to be able to sell?
When was the last time dr. Group was on? I have no idea. I don't think I don't think it's been a while
I think it's been a little while, but I don't know. I I wonder if dr. Group ever comes back
Let me say that this is just a theory of mine. I have nothing to back this up
But the fact that alex is again doing the this is the last x2 thing
Yeah, and he's not doing that in some way like in the past. We've heard him say that to scare people
Yeah, he's not saying it like that on this episode. He's saying that this is probably the last run of x2
And you know get it if you want it that sort of thing like we got some in the warehouse
We had to move it because we got to get that junez product. Yeah, it's taking up space
So I'm I'm and he was already running a multi multi layer
Yeah, infowars life or infowars team or whatever. Yeah, but that was sort of the secondary aspect to his
His operation you'd never really sell that all that hard like he would just mention that you could get discounts if you
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but he wouldn't he wouldn't sit there and be like now
It would be great if you did that he was more interested in getting people on auto ship
So they would get to cancel auto ship make that money auto ship is the good stuff
That was his scam before now. It's junez, baby. Anyway
And is a powerful ally for us
You know to be another
Hydra head, you know as they attack us. We're growing another head and it's junez
Not the team you want to align yourself red. Padilla, please take over
Hydra's really bad when you look at all the products Alex
I mean the basically you the the it's called the youth enhancement system and basically what it means is that
Every product here has solutions. It's like drinking children's blood if you look at p.m. Right here
this product here
Okay, 70 70 percent of americans have sleep issues 70 percent. So no, come on
People who have sleep issues. I will tell you this is probably my favorite product only because it's hard for me to unwind
I'm one of those people that just goes goes goes
And then of course the a.m. What it does is already sell knock out his clarity
But one of the products that you had talked about even was which is called mine
In fact, a lot of the guys in here are using mind
I mean we live in a society right now or who doesn't have a cell phone
It's not exposed to technology on a I mean literally all day long
I mean
You know always last time you were with somebody and they're they're looking at their phone all the time
And we live in a society where attention to death the attention deficit disorder is like all over the place, right?
So the mind product what it really does is it really helps with doing this and it helps with me
I mean, I don't know about you. I'll expect sometimes what happens to just quit. I mean, I sometimes I forget things
Take your money and go my phone all the time
Well, they've got studies they give you so many false choices that aren't real choices
You can only make so many decisions in a day before you degrade any executive does that
And so just like shan parker or facebook said he goes we give you all these fake choices
That release all your dopamine that don't matter
We're stealing your time when you should not be making all those decisions this quick
So there's too many decisions
We're being given and something like this boost the cognitive ability to make more decisions, right?
Well, and then if you like it reserve, okay, what a pile of shit. Wow, that's ridiculous. This is heartbreaking. Yeah
I mean even really heartbreak. This is depressing. Yeah, you should just just go away. Yeah, this is just let this one go
This is the look you lost. This is the sort of thing that will like kill his legacy
Yeah, he's gonna fuck over all of his listeners absolutely if they go along with this they are going to blame him for it
Yeah, no quit just just right off into the sunset
This is not the action of somebody who intends to be around for very long prudently invest because this will catch up with you
Yeah, absolutely. This is the sort of thing where like customers will sign his listeners will sign up
And they will end up losing a bunch of money or making none and losing it because they've had to pay into the system
Yep, and then they're going to blame alex and they're going to be why did you steer us this direction?
You son of a bitch. This is this is a really bad thing
But alex, you know, like
The one of the big reasons that I think he stopped working with dr. Group or intends to in the future
Is that list of products? They're all duplicates of products. Yeah, they're the same shit. It's all the exact same
Solutions that alex already offers with the
Global healing center products that he sells. Yeah, so I don't see a reason that he should have duplicate products
They're only going to cannibalize each other if you want to sell something that will help with sleep you sell pm or knockout
Now a little bit later in this infomercial alex talks about how pm is better than knockout really that leads me to believe
For sure. He's jumping ship on his old. Yeah. Yeah, which is probably a smart thing to do because you don't need the r&d
You don't need the production capabilities. You can cut costs on that end of it
Right, whatever he was chipping in to dr. Group to develop the products and whatever he was paying him for
You know branding and licensing and stuff like that. Maybe some of that goes away
I don't know. I don't know what kind of deal he's worked out with junez
But it's probably a sweetheart deal
But also junez is the only kind of company that will probably get in bed with alex now
That speaks volumes about both companies. Yeah
So all this is bad. I mean it looks real bad, but alex it's bad on a lot of levels
But alex wants you to know that this is not like it's not a multi-level marketing thing. There's great products
But unfortunately within a minute the same clip
He then explains that it is a multi-level marketing. Okay, he contradicts himself within the course of a minute trying to sell this business
Our listeners need to know you guys are already one of the top companies worldwide
You're not doing your big push into the us
And I think people need to get fundamentally involved in this you guys are so successful
And I was reading in the different perspectives online in wall street
That you're doing something because you're not an mlm company. You're a skincare product energy company supplement
Lifestyle high energy with medical doctors designing it, but you use mlm as the model
So folks get word of mouth the most powerful thing in the universe
Especially in the censorship paradigm
And so you guys are set to dominate in the united states. I'm just telling listeners
I told you america was about to be great again. I told you trump was about to get novice
I mean, that's why they hate us folks
We know what's going on and people need to go to info wars. Yes.com to be part of this get great products a great business model
You don't have to be a business person
You don't have to be a distributor to get the products. You can buy them straight up or get this council get them
But you guys have some deals
Where where where if people show real interest involvement, you're doing something
No direct marketing company right off into the sunset
So we're talking about the products, but also the major money go is really the big product independence freedom
everything
So he's saying that the big product is the business the business model
Now I want to talk to you a little bit about junez and why this is a big trouble
So we already talked about how the owners and the founders of junez
Also got in trouble for running a fraudulent mlm company before this
But also according to truth and advertising quote to date close to 50 complaints have been filed with the florida attorney general's office
And the federal trade commission regarding junez
The vast majority of complaints concern problems with obtaining refunds and claims that junez is a pyramid and or panzi scheme
junez is or has been involved in at least 16 lawsuits since its inception
Including two class action lawsuits that allege the company is operating a pyramid scheme and engaging in racketeering
activities
This to my assessment is very very clearly set up like a pyramid scheme
Quote new junez distributors are required to purchase a mandatory starter kit for 49 95 flag
Next they're encouraged in the strongest possible way to jump start their business by purchasing a product package
Which ranges in price from about 200 dollars to 1800 dollars flag
Not surprisingly many distributors are encouraged to buy the most expensive 1800 dollar package
As one of their very successful
operators kim hui
Explains it's a no-brainer flag because it temp. Uh, it temporarily catapults newbies four levels up the compensation structure
Super flag to the rank of sapphire the most flag if there's ranks if there's ranks based on like gems
Then you're fucking flagged unless it's steven universe in addition to this
There's a 1995 uh fee that is charged annually to keep you on the roster flag as well as a minimum of 85 dollars a month
You have to buy in product in order to be eligible for commissions or distributor discounts. Oh my god flag
That's almost a thousand dollars a year not including the introductory packages that you have to pay for the privilege of annoying your friends
And here's the issue as is pretty much always the case with businesses that are set up as multi-level marketing operations
Their products are very expensive
So buying them yourself doesn't really make sense
But it starts to look more appealing when you consider the discount you'd be making if you were a distributor
Agreeing to sell the products to your friends and family makes the products that were once too expensive for you come within your price range
This is a very intentional strategy because businesses like junez are not looking for customers to buy their products
They're looking for people to become distributors because whether they succeed or fail as distributors junez makes money as that
very successful
Business owner through junez kim hui says
Quote it's not about one person selling all the time because that's linear income, you know trading time for money
But this business model
Wait, did he even do she he is she I apologize. She even used the word linear
So what she is then suggesting that somebody doing something is in a straight line
However, if you have somebody at the top
With multiple lines going down
That is almost some sort of triangle or or if you were if you were to take it into a three dimensional
Form, what would you describe it as dan? I don't know if I could legally
But so uh, look, yeah, it's also trading time for money is kind of
The basis of labor
anyway
But this business model is about building distribution and about creating wealth
And then the third thing we do is teach people how to teach other people and so that's when true duplication happens
That's the problem with colleges. They don't have entrepreneurship classes damn a quote from her
Now another another quote of hers makes things even more clear quote
You know we as distributor, uh, you know we as distributors
We get product at wholesale and then when people buy it they buy at retail. So we get
a
So
So we get a little retail commission
Now that will be the smallest pay you ever get. Okay
Because when somebody else buys it at retail, I forget about retail commissions for me
I'm not in this to sell product. I'm here to build a global distribution
So
It's very clear what the business is about
Why are you interviewing somebody who's giving up the game like that because I think I think that was from those quotes
I think are from like her giving a junez
Uh pep talk election. Yeah, of course. So god. Here's where it gets really dangerous in 2014
19.6 percent of distributors had an income of zero dollars
66 earned under a thousand dollars an average of two hundred thirteen dollars and ninety two cents
Only 1.1 of percent of all distributors made more than five thousand dollars on the whole year
And when you consider that 85, uh dollar, uh monthly minimum that you have to buy to keep that keep on board
Which is almost a thousand dollars a year
Even that 66 who earned under a thousand dollars a year are basically breaking even or still losing money
And the 19.6 of people who had an income of zero from there are losing several thousand dollars
Most likely, you know, it's sad
That is maybe the exact income structure of stand-up coming
In 2017 they disclosed their commission information from canada, but other information since 2014 isn't publicly available
Which is not a good sign, but this uh from canada in 2017
We find that 83 percent of distributors made under a thousand dollars with 36.45 percent making nothing
And again, none of those figures taken to account the money that people are spending to get the product
Yeah, of course
So also distributors get paid bonuses depending on what they sell their recruits and their first purchase
If the new recruit buys the 200 dollar basic package, the distributor gets 25 dollars
If they buy the 500 dollar supreme package, they get a hundred dollars
If they buy the 1150 dollar ambassador package, you get 250 dollars
If you think about that for a second, you'll realize that you would always want to get your recruits to sign up for the bigger package
Makes the most sense and you probably try and sway them to do it even possibly using manipulative
Honest practices because you have an agenda. You have a benefit from them buying the package
Yeah, that's the highest you could make much more money now
Obviously whoever recruited you into becoming a distributor had that exact same agenda
Strange and now alex does too
Unreal
Unreal, you know, I for the longest time I used to uh, do you think that his fucking listeners are going to have a better chance than these people who
Oh, good god, go
Absolutely, not nothing
Absolutely not just get screwed or I mean the other side of it is you don't become a distributor and then a lot of these fucking products are
Over 140 dollars for some sort of like skincare cream or something like that
Yep, you could get something as good for almost nothing comparatively just go to fucking wall
Walgreens. Yep, something like that. Yep, or even go buy a boutique one for like 40 bucks save a hundred
Easy go to town. Yeah, this is ridiculous. It's very disgraceful and I'm I'm
Like I hate alex jones. I've spent two years of my life talking about how he's an asshole. I feel bad
I know I feel bad for him now. Like not pity. It's not pity. No, no, no, no
It's it's discussed. Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely at least
In the neighborhood of disgust like I know I've always been disgusted by his racial rhetoric and stuff like that
But in terms of the business stuff always we kind of charmed by it
Like he seems like a rapscallion in many ways. Yeah with his like like all the ad pivots that we laugh at all the time
Like it's it's embarrassing. It's desperate, but there's kind of an art to it
The grift the grift is an art the multi is a pyramid scheme. This is a is a is a just
It's just a bummer. It's like it's like debasing oneself. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's and it's subservient
I'm willing I'm willing to sell out all of my friends and family
So that the guy who sold me on this makes more money
And then the guy that sold him on that makes more money. Yeah, but at the end of the day
I am giving up everything. Yeah, and let's and let's not wait less than I should for alex
It's not your friends and family. It's your audience
Right. He's not selling this to like right his wife's
Tupperware party friends or whatever
Which by the way, we are about to launch our new knowledge fight Tupperware line
I was gonna wait till the end of the episode. It's really great
What you do is you open up one side of it you burp it and then it I don't know how Tupperware works. Does it work?
Well, I don't know. Is Tupperware good? I'm very distracted because one of like half of one of my eyes is going blurry
Not sure why that is not sure if I should be afraid of this just just talking about Tupperware
I'll do that to a lot of people perhaps
So we're gonna we're gonna just we also have a line of makeup
You can drive around in a pink corvette
Sell makeup
We're gonna dismount on this here in a little bit
But before we do we have two more clips that are just a bummer and disheartening
But actually the last one is this one isn't this one is alex revealing a little bit too much
And I think uh raises a bunch of very serious questions. My neck is actually 22 inches wide
Folks have been offered hundreds of millions of dollars to support to support cryptocurrencies
And and I and I get they're real and I get that they're just like the you know
Our government has a fiat currency
I've never taken any sponsorship from it because I can't figure it out and I can't guarantee there's not a pumping dump
Like you see cryptocurrencies down to 80 percent this month
So I could have financed everything off of cryptocurrencies and literally defeated sorrows in the globalist, but I couldn't
Be sure
You were gonna get a good product. These are rated these. I know we're good
So bare minimum you become a distributor you get discounts
You sign up a few family members it pays for what you get each month
Then you sign up 100 members and you you know you make a million dollars a year
The point is is that I feel good at a gut level promoting janez at info wars. Yes.com
Damn it. That's sad
Oh my god, dan we can never do
Present day we can never do present day again. No, he's a multi-level marketing scheme guy now. Yep
And it that's crazy. I don't know if I've ever heard of a
A pyramid scheme that had like a radio like you've never heard a radio host who's personally selling avon
You know, I imagine it might have happened, but yeah, I can't think of I can't think of an example
This is bananas. It's pretty wild. This is this is a guy who's literally at the lowest
He could possibly be but your alex in 2009 was not making anywhere near as much no
And even that alex would have been like
for real
Pyramid scheme there's got to be a better way you want me to jump into pyramid scheme
I'm selling genes that might be the right size. Right. Right. I'm fine with that
I'm fine with that dan if we sold genes that could be the right size
Sometimes I think that's better for me than if we were part of a pyramid scheme. I think I would probably veto that
I know you would I I'm talking comparatively. This is weird. This is actually now both of my eyes
I'm very concerned about no, you've been dead for six weeks. I might be going blind
No, you are pray that I'm not because I don't know how to read braille
Well, that would really slow down this podcast because that would really screw up our multi-level marketing scheme
Definitely
So I think that you're missing one of the big points in that clip and that is that alex has been offered hundreds of millions of dollars to
Promote cryptocurrencies, which I don't think is true. I think he's exaggerating but also who's offering you that money alex
who
Don't worry about who's offering you that money alex
And you're he's even recognizing in there. They're like, ah, a lot of these are pump and dump schemes. Yes. Yes alex
Yes, and you know
Who's running them based on who is trying to get you to promote them because alex jones promoting
It would be the pump part of the dump. Yeah the pump that leads to the dump and the if alex were to promote those
He would be the one who would get dumped upon no his listeners would well
Yeah, because he would be let in on when to sell
Do you think he would I think that's why he's I think that's why he's more susceptible to the
Maybe he thinks that they would maybe he thinks that those people would like screw him over in the last minute or no
It's the weirdest part of this of this scam the scam being scammed on the scammer
Is that because he doesn't actually understand?
Uh a bitcoin cryptocurrency. He wasn't willing to jump in on the ground full of the scam
But this scam is supplements. Yeah, he's like this is my scam
Right, right. You're just giving me a new way to scam my scam
Right, and he doesn't understand that he's the one who's part of the scam now
Or he's the one who's being scammed in the scam. Yeah, there's I said scam a lot in a very short period of time
It's multi-level scam, you know, there's people are getting different degrees
Yeah, now we the jones folks must be like jerking off over the fact that they they look we're it's got a warehouse
Yeah, yeah, you know. Yeah, exactly. So we have one more clip and in this clip
I I agree with you. I don't think we can talk about the present day much anymore
I think this is going to be too much of a bummer and alex is just a pathetic shell of a man
Yeah, between his going back on like federal troops at the border. Yeah, that's sort of shit the just
Flagrant racism that's throughout this episode is brutal then the end reveal of now. We're doing multi-level marketing
Please sign up all this stuff. Right. I think this next clip really is the um
The evolution of him as a pokemon if you will into uh, his his true form now into a venosaur
Which is like legitimately this clip represents alex jones literally selling his audience to junez
And the way you sell this is to other trump supporters people that want the economy to grow
People that are on the bandwagon of renaissance. You say hey alex jones is a patriot his info is great. These are high rated
Uh
Cosmetics and high rated supplements
You should get this to support m4s and see how great they are and just buy it once and then they're going to be hooked
Because it's so good
Now you're making money the show is making money. We're defeating the globalists
They're getting good products and then you go. Oh become a distributor under me
Well, think about it. How many of us right now, you know, like there's a new apple phone coming out, right?
There's a new apple phone coming out and everything that was a coffee apple to make it'll be $1400
Yeah, okay, so people are going to go out and say hey, look at my new phone
How much are you getting paid from apple?
You know, we we live in a society where people are calling
Tell folks about the new deal
So right now what they have going right now is if you become a a preferred customer
You can get up to 25 off the product. This is dumb, right?
You get 25 off of the oh my god
I'm a perfect customer if you want to get up to 40 off
Then you pay a one-time membership fee, which is 49 49 95 or something like that and you get you can
You can get all the products for up to 40 off. So and that's like Costco. You save the money one time
That's right. That's right. But what's great about this is you pay it cost go you got to pay every year
You pay this is one time you pay this one time. So and then you anything with sam's, right? It's it's every year
Yeah, it's yeah, you pay it every year. So most people that are out there
They want to you know, they want the most discount, which is 40 off of these products
I mean why and again walmart does that because they want your commitment
They're going to give you the best deal
They want you to like putting a ring on they want the commitment. Well, I want your commitment
I wanted to feed sorrows and if you just my god, these are great products are the best out there
Keep going. Yeah, so so if you look at the products for example with all of them
Every single product on average that you're going to be able to use here
Some of them work right away. Like if you look at instantly ages for bags underneath the eyes
Who in the world wants bags under the eyes male or female?
I mean this works within a couple of minutes
In fact, I in fact we're going to get alex. I think to to uh to do I've just been too busy. No, here's the thing
I know all this stuff works. I've tried it. I seem to do it. Oh my god
Goodbye, alex
Oh my god
Goodbye. This is heartbreaking. That's curtains. This is really heartbreaking for me
Oh, I mean the way he's selling his audience up the river basically like what you have here
Like I said already in the episode his audience is going to fare exactly as well as the
Average junez distributor does and they're going they're going to fare way worse than that
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say as well because it's a terrible average already, right?
Let's do you don't have to assume they're going to do worse for it to be bad for them
They're going to blame alex and he deserves it because he just sold them to junez
Well, what he's going to try and do is get them to blame
They're globalists for it. All he did is transmute
All of his audience's attention that he has left whatever hasn't been chipped away
He just took that and said junez. Will you buy this?
Will you buy the credibility that I have left with my audience?
Yeah, in order to get them to try and maybe sign up for your thing through a website that is called info wars
Yes, so they'll still you know, they'll still think it has the alex jones credibility that they
Believe to it and once you do that
I don't know I don't know how you can get it back once it goes bad for so many people because it's going to like
I don't know what you can do. I you know what I've I've resisted saying like this is the end for alex so many times
But I can see this going down a direction where he can't recover from that
See now, but this is what I think is fascinating about the multi-level marketing scheme being applied to alex is that
He's for the first time that I again
I don't know a radio hoster like Tucker Carlson isn't fucking part of avon or whatever it is
Right, like I've never seen this before wherein the blame can be shifted
So easily to the fucking globe to the fucking globalists or whatever. I don't see I don't see that
I don't see it. I don't see it being possible either, but his listeners are fucking stupid
Generally, but I don't think once once they start losing the scant amounts of money that they all
Have that they put into this. I don't see a way that they can't think hey alex
Why did you and then they start researching? They start looking into other reviews of the company if you're if you're
If you're a alex jones listener, you're not researching a goddamn thing generally not but if some company
You lose a bunch of money and you realize you got caught up in a basically
Exploitative business relationship. I think you might look and see if did this happen to a bunch of other people
And then when you see that yes, it does and alex has every reason to know
The exact same percentages that I read to you that are real that are from disclosures from jones themselves
alex has to know that and the fact that he's still
Trying to get his customers his listeners who are customers. Yeah
He's still trying to get them on board with it means that he's fine with the idea that 80% of them are gonna get fucked by this
Yeah, but but I've never seen a pyramid scheme applied to a cause
That's the fascinating thing about this. I think there has been no, I'm sure I'm sure but it's never it's never like
If you don't buy these knives, then the globalist win
Like I've never heard that sales pitch for a pyramid scheme that sales like this is kind of brilliant in a certain way
It's not because that sales pitch is going to work on alex's audience
And it's not going to work the next step, which is the audience trying to sell it to other people
Oh, no, of course not the audience the audience can't no it's going to be a disaster for them
The audience can't get their friends and family to listen to alex's show and believe that he's right
There's no way they're going to be able to use alex's rhetoric to sell them products. They don't need
It's going to be a disaster for them. But that's who gives a shit about them. I mean, I I mean obviously
Obviously human beings do but alex doesn't eventually there's going to be blowback
There's going to eventually be
But that's the insulation that alex has that other pyramid schemes don't have is that
The blowback has to go towards someone else. It doesn't go back to info wars. It goes back to the globalist
It goes back to I think the liberals
The liberals are the reason that you're not selling enough dan
I think because of the economic consequences that are going to come to his listeners
They are going to treat it differently than the obfuscating that alex can do in general cases
I don't think that he's going to be able to weasel out of this, but who knows
I don't know the republicans consistently weasel out of a two million two trillion dollar tax cut for the rich
I understand that and I don't know my predictions are generally off. So who fucking knows who fucking knows the point is
My eye is really starting to freak me out. So we gotta end this. All right. He did because I think i'm going blind
All right. Anyway, uh, we have a website. We do have a website that uh, other people can view but dan cannot right now
Well, I can for now, but we'll see when I wake up tomorrow. This is going on when I wake up tomorrow
I don't know what i'm gonna. We got it. We got some trouble. Yeah, but probably won't be you probably sleep at all
You're gonna be fine, but it's fucking really weird right now
You've had a lot of caffeine and you just drank a kickstart and all that shit. I 100 percent believe that's what's
But it's still fucking with my head. Yeah, we also have a twitter account. It's at knowledge underscore
I go to facebook. Yep. We have a group there called go home and tell your mother you're brilliant
That's where you should go. It's really it's really great
I I jump in and out of the group every now and again and of my they're like
The most amazing thing to me is whenever somebody just shows up and is like
I just found the show and i'm part of the group now
Or people are like hey everybody's so nice here. It feels good to be a part of it
Exactly and for all of you
I just say that if you sign up for the
High membership package
Then you don't have to pay the normal fees that most people do to get into the group or you can just uh
You know subscribe on itunes check us out leave you can do that if you if you sign up 15 other subscribers
Right, uh, then you get a discount on your own podcast. I think my eye is getting better
It's starting to wear off
Dan we're good as somebody who is oh my god as somebody I've been blind my entire fucking life
I've been wearing contacts since I was six years old. I've been goddamn blind
I work for you for having for having like a little bit of blurry vision if I take my contacts out
I can't walk down the street and you don't know what this was it looked like a dragon in the corner of my eye
It was okay. No, that I didn't want to talk about it while it was still that's some eddy page shit right
I didn't want to talk about it while it was still there because it's like
Oh that red dragon is coming around but now it's got oh
Wait, it's back red dragon
No
sort of
This is really troubling. I shouldn't have brought it up. You just have floaters. Yeah, I know but it's really it's it's more severe than
Generally, okay, and it was sort of getting worse. That was really freaking. I'm sorry. We need to talk more about all right
Um, but yeah, leave a review on itunes. Check us out on facebook on twitter
Do it but alex is there something important we should know about this pyramid scheme loving motherfucker
I almost feel like this is worse
But something else that he's done that might not be as bad as selling out his audience is uh
alex probably killed a dude
Andy and chanzas you're on the air. Thanks for holding
So alex i'm a first-name caller i'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you