Knowledge Fight - #213: October 2, 2018

Episode Date: October 5, 2018

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss the Oct. 2, 2018 episode of The Alex Jones Show. The gents expected to find Alex running a desperate defense for the Supreme Court nomination of Bret Kavanaugh, but they could not have imagined how insane and idiotic Alex's defense would be.

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding Alex. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are Dan. Yes, sir. Dan. Hey, when was the last time you were at a Cubs game? Last time I was at a Cubs game. I went with the great Bobby Buds. Oh, yeah. That sounds right. Bobby Buds. Yeah. Yeah. He's taken me to two games. Uh, the Cubs, the only two games I've gone. They've been a delight. We've gotten shit wasted. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Buds is so fucking funny out in like social life. Let's out in like in the real world. Yeah. Yeah. He which is a little bit of a knock. No, he's a very funny guy on Twitter. He so he had this thing. He had this bit that he kept doing where he was he kept accusing the guy who was selling beers of hitting on him. It was just something that progressively got worse as we got drunker. But yeah, I don't know, man. It's a super fun time. I know I don't care about baseball or the Cubs really at all. I know that's offensive to you. No, it's fine. I always thought that go Cubs go is the stupidest fucking song in the world. It's the worst. But this game that we went to was the end of the regular season. Uh, the year the Cubs ended up winning the 2016. Yeah. Yeah. So there was electricity in the room. Oh, absolutely. It was like they won. It was an exciting game as like the game is ending. Everyone in the fucking stadium is singing go Cubs go and I found myself singing along to can't help it. It was It is insane. Yeah, it really is. It's one of the times the worst song that every like it's it's way worse than that. What's the dumb Boston one? Not that. Yeah. Yeah. It's way worse than that one. I don't know. Chelsea Dagger is a little better. It's somehow a lot better than that one too. I like Chelsea Dagger as a fight song a little more, but it's still not great. No, it's terrible. But it was unlistable. It was that really interesting experience that I hadn't really had much of in my life of like really blending into the hole. Yeah. Like I became part of the stadium. You understand sports now. Yeah, I kind of got it. But yeah. Well, that is important because we're recording this on Wednesday and last night they lost to the Rockies and 13 innings and are eliminated.

So sorry about that. Great. Sorry about that. I'm glad you had a fun experience. No, it's two years ago. It's fine. No, the other time I tried to go to Cubs game was when friends and New York comedians Ryan Beck and Kyle Ayers were both in town. Yeah. And we tried to go to a Cubs game and it got rained out. So I spent like 25 bucks on beers just to have to leave. Yeah. Well, now you know what it's like to be a Cubs fan. Yeah, it was that was a bummer. That was that's more like the experience that Cubs fans all love and share. That is a bummer. But what's not a bummer, Jordan? What? A couple of new donors. Nice. Shout out to also this is a podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones. I only know what you tell me about. There we go. So I'd like to say first of all, thank you so much to someone who has just joined up with the team. We're very excited about this. Thank you so much, David. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, David. Thank you, David. You are a man after God's own heart. Indeed. Also, I'd like to say thank you to someone else who has just joined up. We very much appreciate it. Thank you so much, Amy. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, Amy. Thanks, Amy. Man. I don't think it's Amy man. Are you sure it's not Amy man? If it is Amy man, I think she could have bumped it up a little bit. Hit your boy up. So we appreciate everybody. Oh, so very much. And if you'd like to support the show and what we do, you can do so by going to knowledgefight.com, clicking that button that says support the show and helping us out.

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I don't know if we can do that. Let's get Alex Jones tattoos. No, we cannot. Let's get Roger Stone's ass with Nixon's tattoo on it. New, new goal. But that's the sort of thing. Like, I don't know. I don't, I'm not here to, I'm not going to stop doing the show at any point just because I can't get tattoos. But there's things that I'd like to do. And if you support the show and you like what we do, little bit, any little bit helps. And thank you to everybody who does support the show. And if you don't want to support the show financially and you just like listening to it, fucking awesome. Yeah. Keep doing that. We appreciate that enough.

Yeah. Once again, all of our, You don't have to pay to listen. Everything is free. With all of our entreaties to help us out at the end of the day. It's like, you bet if you don't, it's fine. We're ashamed of needing. And honestly, there are better places to send money. If you want to donate to charity, that's better. That's better. Dan, how dare you? Literacy campaigns. What? They can hear our show? They don't need to learn how to read. That's exactly right. 100% I agree with that.

So Jordan, today we are in a situation where after, as is always the case, whenever we have a really fun episode like we did on Wednesday, we now have to have a bit of a bummer. Yeah. Of course. Today, after our last episode, you and I sat around, we had a little bit of chat afterwards about the idea of like, are we just abandoning the present in Alex Jones? And we both realized that that's not our, it's outside of our job to do that. Yeah. We have to talk about the present. Absolutely.

Even if he's stupid and a MLM middle management sales guy now, even if he's publicly deconstructing to a gross degree, we kind of still have to talk about the present or else we're kind of leaving part of the equation unsolved. Yeah. Or unanswered. And that would be, we'd be derelict in our duty. And so today. And we would just forget what the present is as we constantly live in the past. Like, wait, we would be like, like we were in Futurama.

I'm totally fine with doing that by now. No, no, no. Can't do it. Forgetting what the present is. You got to engage in the reality of the present, which is an unending stream of shit being poured upon all of our faces all day every day with no chance of cessation. So today we're going over Tuesday, October 2nd, 2018's episode. And I know I told you that I didn't want to go to the present for some very legitimate reasons. I could kind of predict what Alex was going to be up to.

I was wrong. Yeah, that tends to be how the show works. I was so fucking wrong. We have known and listened to thousands upon thousands of hours of this asshole. And how is it still wrong? I had, I have no idea. No one would have predicted this. All right.

So today we're going to start and here is an out of context drop from today's show. I don't claim Jack Diddley squat. I don't know what's going on. Me neither, man. Me neither. Me and Alex on the same page. Wait, but you always say you know what's going on. I have no idea what's going on.

God damn it. Also, it's really fun because I realized this in that drunken hotel interview where he's like, I don't know who did 9-11. I have no idea. I recently watched some clips of him on Rogan's show and he's like, I know all who, but I know everyone who did it. Yeah, of course. You fucking dick. He's 99% right all the time. Now admittedly, he has no idea what's going on.

But when he says he knows what's going on, he's 99% right. He could be 99% right, 99% of the time and technically be wrong every single time. It's possible. That is possible. It's unlikely that it's possible. What is that? The gambler's fallacy? Is that what just happened?

So, Jordan, today we are going to start this October 2nd, 2018 episode. This is not going to be super fun, but some of it is going to be fucking hysterical. All right. Here we go. Let's jump in as Alex jumps in at the beginning of the broadcast. 35 days until the most historic election in world history. I know. Referendum on nationalism versus globalism, human freedom in the Renaissance versus global technocracy and the New Dark Age.

You know, I rarely drop the ball big time. Nope. But I have really, really dropped the ball. I feel like we have 20 different examples of him saying this. And I began to realize this over the weekend, so I did a lot of research. And by then a lot of other people had done research. Cool. And now we have all the documents.

We have all the admissions. It's hiding in complete plain view. What is? And I'll talk about how I dropped the ball. Tell me what it is. And how important this ball dropping is. You fucking tease. Because the ball has been fumbled.

But we haven't got it yet. It's a big ball. And we get this information out. No wonder. They don't want info wars on any social media are able to share information virally, they think. During this period, because they're going to make a bunch of dirty moves the next 35 days. We've already seen it. But the information we're going to cover when we come back is so stunning that I just cannot even believe it.

He can't even Dan. That's great Alex Jones right there. He cannot. I have dropped the ball so bad. And let me tell you how bad I've dropped it. But only by picking it back up and showing you how amazing this fucking ball that I dropped is. Because the other side hasn't picked it up yet. So you have any idea what he's talking about?

No fucking clue. It could be anything. It could literally be anything. These days. No fucking no. I mean your first instinct is be like oh he's probably got something on Kavanaugh. And you're like well that would be too easy. It is Kavanaugh adjacent.

It's Kavanaugh adjacent. It is. All right. Hold on. He believes Anita Hill. No. Oh no. That would be a huge dropping of the ball that he done.

He did pick it back. I mean. I think the other sides picked that one up. Well the other side did pick that one up. Okay. True. I mean this is this is related to Kavanaugh obviously. And Alex is on some crazy bullshit.

Okay. And he has been for a bit. Okay. His narrative about it has been constantly evolving as like he posted a story a couple days back about how like she has travel pictures and that proves she's a liar and shit like that. Right. Right.

I think that she said that anybody is like well maybe that's if it's not all 100% true then that means that she's 100% lying about everything. He's basically gone like an amplified and exaggerated all of the conservative talking points about her. Yeah. That's hard to do. It is. They are really amping it up themselves.

And my friend when we get to what the ball he dropped is. Does he deliver. Oh man. Oh god damn it. This is what I'm saying. This is what I was talking about at the beginning of the episode. I predicted that like Alex is going to be running interference for Kavanaugh. Yeah.

And it wasn't going I'm like I don't need to go listen to that. It's not going to be interesting. I was so fucking wrong. Okay. His angle on this is unbelievable and he begins to get into it here. And thank god Michael Savage began to point this out last Friday because yeah we say that all the time. But for some reason I mainly focused on Ford's leftist background donating 10 times to Hillary

60 time to other leftist our story didn't add up how there's new process how your innocence will prove and guilty you know stuff that goes back to the Magna Carta. Right. For criminal trials you know for criminal dance not for a job interview. I began to look at her CIA connections and it's not whoa. It's like saying a cow out in the field has connections to cows or Hitler had connections the Nazis or Apple's logo looks like an apple. First so she she's in the CIA.

Well if you know not that she is the CIA. She's the head. She's the head or she is just the embodiment of the CIA. She's bad at metaphors. She's not good at metaphors. So that's the first part of it but this is not at all where it ends. It's unbelievable and it's not just CIA. I bet it's unbelievable.

She co-authors top studies and is one of the head engineers in a giant mind control program that they admit is mind control. Okay. At Stanford. I'm listening. And then her father grandfather brother brother-in-law all work in the same group of CIA offices that produced the fake Russiagate dossier what I mean and then she's got the deep state lawyer of Andy McCabe wait she's also Michael seal unbelievable that they would try something

like this. Whoa. This is basically all the same team. It's all the same team. It's the Rosetta stone of everything. So because of her because she's finally come forward we now know that she is part of the team that set up the steel dossier. She's part of the team that is behind the I assume the Bay of Pigs.

She's done it all. Well her brother apparently worked at a law firm that may have represented fusion GPS or been involved with them at some point. Oh okay. Well then that's the smoking gun right there. That part. I'm gonna leave alone smoking gun now as to her family being the CIA which once again the fusion is of course the CIA right.

Of course. It's definitely not. It's not a private enterprise. Everybody's the CIA. It's not like a firm that specifically does one thing. So in terms of her family being CIA I don't know if that's true. I don't think that there's like a database I can just type someone's name into and it pops up.

I don't think it works that way. But the only reason I even care about this is like Alex you say your dad's a CIA dentist. So like. Hold on. Why are you throwing stones at somebody else? For their family. He's a patriot CIA dentist. Fair enough.

He's not. He's not accusing anybody very credibly of assaulting them. And then because if he did then he would obviously be true because his dad is totally assaulted somebody. He's a good version of the CIA dentist. So the other thing is like her lawyer is involved with McCabe. I also don't know if that's true. I don't care.

Alex. Like banging. Your lawyer represents the daily stormer. Like I don't think it's a problem that they do. I don't. I really don't if it's free speech issues and they take on clients who are like disgusting to most people. Right.

They still deserve to have a lawyer and have like a day in court. Yeah. Absolutely. That's it. That's part of the whole. Well, let's be honest. That's part of the Constitution that Trump is got is trying to get rid of. Fair enough.

Yeah. But I don't think that like just because you're a lawyer who has represented a Nazi makes you a Nazi. I don't think that version of association really works. Yeah. The ACLU would be fucked if that were the case. Absolutely. Yeah.

I think there are probably lawyers who are Nazis who represent Nazis. Oh yeah. Absolutely. It's not an equivalence. So I don't judge Alex for having a lawyer who also represents Nazis. I don't think that that I frankly I judge the Nazis for having a lawyer that also represents Alex. Let's face it.

It kind of means you're not getting a good lawyer. It kind of means that lawyer is a little opportunistic. If you've seen the way he's represented Alex guys, Nazis, you can do better. Right. So all of this is kind of thin, but she's involved in mind control experiments. Yes. That sounds right. She does have a PhD in psychology.

We're going to leave that alone for now, but I promise we'll get back to it. Okay. I'm going to let Alex play himself out a little bit before we talk about the reality. All right. All right. I'm not even going to try and pretend that he's right. Like I did on that. Yeah.

You made a valiant effort, but today's not the day. Oh man. Also, I regret that I didn't know this before we recorded that episode about Sophia Stewart, the lady who claimed to have written the matrix and terminator. I did some research into red ice radio. This legitimate white supremacist radio show. Yes. Legitimate.

Because I realized, do you mean it's legitimate white supremacist or it's a legitimate radio show? It's a legitimately white supremacist radio show. Okay. I was looking into it because I was like, I noticed that there were a number of Alex Jones's guests who have also been on there. I can't imagine why. A shocking number of them.

What? Come on. For some reference, John Rappaport's been on there four times. That sounds low. Yeah, I know. Or high. Why is John Rappaport, he's not leaving the house of course. Probably.

He's an eatic. Okay. It's not a daily radio show though. So it's not like, who cares? All right. But the reason I bring this up is Sophia Stewart was also on there. So that's an interesting little wrinkle to her business. So now we get back to this.

You can't get around that voodoo dad. Can't do it. So we get back in and so Alex has levied the claim that Dr. Blasey Ford is involved in mind control experiments and turns out it's even worse than that. By the way, her specialty is implanting false memories. That's convenient. Oh, you're going to read the study with her name on it. God help us.

You know, it's everybody accusing Cabin on our psychology professors. Are you a Scientologist now? What is that? You notice, you notice all the enemies are psychologists. All right. Whatever. So I promise you, we're going to get into exactly why this is all stupid and everything. But before we do, Alex, go.

I think, I think already we can start with her specialty is implanting false memories. Her specialty is not false memories. It is not the anything other than the actual act of implanting false memories into a human being. Right. She's basically the movie Inception. Yeah. But in a person.

Gotcha. So before we get to any of this, and Alex sort of tries to talk about this news story in heavy quotes, news story, um, he goes down a lot of really dumb roads. And this one's my favorite. I think you'll actually enjoy this one too. It is Tuesday, the second day of October, 2018. I'm your host, Alex Jones. We are 35 days out from the midterms that are obviously much bigger than just the midterms.

I'm going to dive straight into the Brett Kavanaugh fiasco. I doubt it. And I'm not going to get into the latest Georgetown professors saying that they want to kill Kavanaugh, attack Kavanaugh and have his testicles cut off. Whoa. I'm going to get to that later. I'm listening. I'm going to get to that later.

I'm listening. I thought they would make you perk up. Look, I'm not, I'm not saying I'm for it. I'm just saying if somebody were to come out and say that that's what we should do, I'm listening. There's a Georgetown professor who tweeted some stuff about how like, you know, all of these, these white men up here, these privileged white men who are reinforcing the system that allows people to assault women, they deserve to be made to feel as uncomfortable as this

makes survivors of assault. Oh yeah. That was the point that she was making that you made it through flowery language, much like you might. Yeah. I'm talking about how I'm liking this person so far. Talking about how they deserve to have painful deaths. I'm thinking, I'm thinking there's a, there's an ally at Georgetown.

I think she does talk about how they should be castrated. I think I got, I think I got a friend. I think so. I think I got a friend. It's going to be tough to reach out because I think she got kicked off Twitter for it. Oh, come on. Yeah. What?

Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa.

Please. I thought I was being wrong. Do you think it's weird? I'll go back to that. Oh, okay. At least, at a response to a horrible injustice that is being committed by the people who are saying the shit on Twitter to her. Weird.

Oh, it's very weird. Justice is a perfect. So I don't want to talk too much about that story. I just think it's really funny the, his delivery especially of they want to cut. Ears, balls off. His balls off. I'm fine with that. I love it.

Even if he didn't, I'm kind of for that, for Supreme Court justices. Do you know what I mean? It would be an interesting thing to do, you know, there should be a sacrifice of some sort. You want to have impartiality. You don't get balls. Well, I mean, then you'd have to take out the ovaries of the female Supreme Court justice. No hormones whatsoever.

I want supreme box. I'm not talking about hormones necessarily, but it would be interesting to put on some sort of a, like you can't have kids if you're on the Supreme Court, because that would bias your opinion. Oh, absolutely. Future stuff. Oh, there's, if you want, I'm not advocating for that, by the way, I'm just talking this through.

Look, all, all I'm saying is that the, the fantastic thing about what's going on right now is that it reveals the Supreme Court to be the sham that it has always been somewhat. It has never been anything but this and we're all any, any pretense that anybody has ever had of like, Oh, well these are impartial justices. All they need to do is look at this now and be like, Oh no, that's full of shit. And it always has been. So it's nice. You assume that it has, especially like in earlier times, American history, man, there

was like, what? There was like 20 years where the Supreme Court wasn't awful, maybe where the Supreme Court wasn't just like, I really, I get your argument, but I'm, I'm still not convinced that black people are people. Right. Right. That was a tough time for the tough time, tough time for everybody. So here, here's the deal.

I'm not telling you the truth about this story yet, but part of that is because at this point in the show where maybe like 20 minutes into Alex's episode, maybe a little bit less than that, but Alex realizes on air that he hasn't read the story either. Like he doesn't actually, of course not. He doesn't realize, he realizes in the middle of talking about stuff that he needs more context than the headline and he doesn't have it. Right. He just knows brain control, mind control programs.

Right. She implants memories or whatever. He got like the bullet points or whatever, but he can't, he can't do it and he realizes this is too important of a story for me. I should probably skim this thing. So he fakes being too emotional to be on air as he does. No shit. Very regularly.

This is pretty funny. Oh, and surprise, surprise. Long pause, long pause. I never learned how to research and you look deeply into it, stretch it hiding in plain view in plain view. The most incredible information is right there in front of us and the fact that they would try something like this is the most outrageous crap I have ever seen. Period.

Outraged. Tell us what they've been trying to do. In fact, it's so stunning. I can't even be on air right now. I'm going to have to go off here. Seriously, I'm not doing this for dramatic purposes. I'm going to have to compose myself for practical purposes and I will need to document shots when I do it.

So, I am going to go off here at this point and I'm going to come back in the next segment and I'm going to do my very, very best to be on air. Good luck. So, he goes off air in places. How long is he off air for? I don't know, like 10 minutes or something like that. He goes off. He plays some special reports, goes to commercial and shit and he comes back and it appears

that most of what he's prepared is not so much stuff about this story, although he's gotten a couple more beats. What he's done is he's gone and wrangled articles about the Unabomber MK Atra, James Holmes, the Aurora shooter and that's about it. So he comes back on there and gives a little lecture about MK ultra. So he quite literally went back into his office, found his cauldron, said double, double toil and travel around it and then here we are. I would say that that's one possibility.

More likely he just went to his office, found that little wall mount that says in case of emergency break glass, took a ball peen hammer and got out the MK ultra stories and went back on air. That's my theory. But he comes back and now the story is a little bit more robust. He can talk about it a little more and he has this basis of the Unabomber and James Holmes in order to weave into the idea that she's running a mind control operation. And I'm going to say this way ahead of time.

I think Alex could get sued for this. Oh, I think this is libel. That's fast. I am not a lawyer. I don't know exactly. But if I were Dr. Ford, I would sue the shit out of Alex Jones for this. He is absolutely lying about her and it is dead to rights libel. If the lawyer for the Daily Stormer isn't listening to this, guess, guess what?

He's on this episode. What? He shows up later in this episode. Of course, of course he does because he was, he heard it in the ether. He was just like, Oh shit, billable hours are coming. I got to be there. I got to be there billable hours billable hours. Like I don't, again, if I were her, I probably wouldn't sue him just because of the difficulty

in how much of a burdensome process it would be. But I think she has grounds to sue and we'll see as this goes along. Now get ready for this. I knew that Dr. Ford's grandfather, father, brother, and brother-in-law all worked high level CIA. Harris and Harris in the second. That's part of the course of these psychology professors. Then it came out that she ran recruiting programs at Stanford and one other college.

She was involved in the recruiting. Can't prove that. Then it got even worse. How did it get worse? I saw a media matters article over the weekend attempting to debunk it and it went ahead and admitted it all and more and said, and how dare them? Yeah. She was in some programs to help people forget memories or have new false memories.

There were several articles and I went and read the study she wrote and ladies and gentlemen murder. Turns out she co-authored and headed up major classic MK ultra style mind control programs. We're talking erasing memories, yeah, implanting false memories for sure. Programming people. She's got it all. Openly at Stanford. I'm going to get into the actual program, show TV viewers, the actual document.

We posted it on info wars.com. TV viewers. Mike Adams done an excellent job of natural news.com, breaking it down. But I read this last night when he sent it to me and got physically ill because I already knew all about this. I was upset at my stomach. Yeah. Um, so you wait, wait, wait, because he already knew all about it.

Sure. Makes him sick. Sure. But you heard, you heard there at the end there, I think one of the very important pieces that just might slide under the rug to most people, but it's that Mike Adams, the health ranger is the one who wrote this story. So Mike Adams over at natural news is Alex's source for all this, which I mean, it's basically the equivalent of Paul Joseph Watson having written the article or something like that.

He may as well be an employee of that. He's the 9 11 blogger of health. Exactly. I mean, his, his site is just a bullshit conspiracy health site. It's nonsense. It's a, he, he's apparently super rich and I think a large part of it is damn it. These guys always are, but I think one of the things that he does is he makes a lot of websites with like really good URLs and good SEO kind of management and then sells advertising

on them. So I think he has a network. This is what I understand. I haven't fully looked into it, but from what I understand, he has like tons of URLs that are perfectly marketed for specific searches. And so he just makes tons of money from the ads on those websites, which you can't hate that hustle necessarily. That's a, that's a good game if you can run it, but I dislike it in terms of like one

of the main ones being this site that puts out disinformation about health stuff all the time. It's so frustrating. It's so frustrating that we do a show where we study all of these people running great scams and we just don't have the lack of moral fiber to do so. Yeah. Whatever it is. God, we know so many great scams, dad.

Well, I can look at them. It doesn't mean I could pull them off and we could probably pull them off if these fucking idiots can pull them off, we could probably pull at least one off. It requires a certain set of skills, if you will, and I don't have those skills. I don't think you do either. You can have my daughter. I have nothing to do with that. I am sorry.

Good luck. So let's let Alex talk some more about this. And then I saw this last night, I already read some of the studies she'd written, but I found these with Mike Adams sent me the article. So real quick, I just want to say this. I forgot to say before we start this next clip, Alex talked about this media matters article is trying to rebut things, but accidentally made it clear that she's more guilty than he knew.

I don't care about that. I didn't look into the media matters article because I'm going based on the primary sources and that's a terrible idea. Whatever the actual information is, if it's not in Mike Adams and Alex Jones is reporting, then they're not making that claim. So whatever like media matters might be saying, which I'm sure Alex is misrepresenting, I don't give a shit about it. I care about what Mike Adams, the health ranger and Alex Jones, the freedom ranger are bringing

to the table. So that's why I have no response to the media matters thing. I don't care at all. So anyway, and I shacked her and read it and I knew what I was looking at because I'd read the declassified stuff in the seventies on MK ultra MK Naomi. It was all that with her heading it up and view the co-author of a mind control study to give people false memories or remove memories. So he's making this very clear.

Like what his claim is, is not changing. It's very consistent. Nope. He's saying that she's running these mind control studies. It's MK ultra shit. And I think you would have to agree with me that this is not at all what you would expect his angle to be. No.

This is pretty wild. No, I was not going to, I was, I actually kind of appreciated more. Yeah. Kind of. This is way better than the women are always lying about sexual assault. Now here's. I'm a bigger fan of women can actually control minds. See now that I'm in.

Now here, here's what's great about this. He was probably saying that women are always lying a week ago. Oh, of course. So I'm glad we don't have to talk about that. Yeah. No, this is fantastic. But at the same time, I think this is great because it gives us an avenue to discuss Alex Jones is crazy bullshit visa, V Kavanaugh and Ford.

But at the same time, we don't have to dwell too deeply in the very basic stuff that you hope humans just understand. Oh yeah, but they don't very, very first off. Uh, he shouldn't be on the Supreme Court, no matter what, because of his views and what he is. Even outside of these, yeah, even, even, even outside of this shit, he should not be anywhere near anywhere ever, ever, ever, no, shouldn't let him in a pool supply store. The fact that the fact that he is being supported and propped up and, and defended by the people

who probably did the same shit that he did is awful. And the fact that they're attacking a woman who has, has literally, I don't know if there's any way you can come back. Like her life is never the same from here on out and the things that Alex is doing on this episode are only making that worse. It's not that she's, it's not that I don't want to, I don't want to say like, oh, she's gone and ruined her life, but she has done something in one moment that will irrevocably change any aspect of her life forever and ever and ever.

Well, you could say the guy who stood up to a tank in China irrevocably changed his life. Exactly. Exactly. Like those sorts of things are like, Exactly. And not comparing her necessarily like one to one to that, but like there are situations in life where you have to stand up no matter what. I'm going to be honest.

I, I don't think it's a, I don't think it's a bad comparison at all. And I think that Trump would have been like fucking, look, who's, who, you can't trust people who stand in front of tanks like fucking fuck off. I think for most of us, there's that, that sort of mighty, mighty boss tones mentality of like, thank God I've never had to knock on wood. Yeah. But I wonder if I could do it. Yeah.

And most people. And she's fucking sacked up. Yeah. Most people don't have to make that decision. And I think that anybody who judges that decision without that sort of context or understanding of it is being remarkably disrespectful. Yeah. Not only to her, but just to the, like the idea of people.

Anyway. Anyways. Yeah. We're many, many, many other people have done much better analysis of, of this situation and we agree with them, but you came to knowledge fight to get our analysis. And that is fuck that guy. And isn't this shit crazy? So in this next clip, we get some familiar criticisms of Ford, like the kind of things

that you would expect to hear Alex say, because a lot of this other stuff, the mind control shit and all that pretty crazy, but now we get back to some sort of like, this is just regular old, there's no bottom to how bad conservatives bullshit can be. No, cause it's still Alexi, but it's like the Alex you'd expect. Okay. We looked into Dr. Ford, the psychologist. She loves a regular. Scientologist, man.

I swear. She was a big Hillary supporter and gave 10 donations in the last cycle and 60 donations. There we go. Other Democrats. She's got a lot of money. But the RU 486 abortion pill company worth hundreds of billions of dollars still out on the market. So, uh, the, the Hillary Clinton one is, you know, that's basically what you'd expect.

They're a hundred percent. Sure. That gives money to leftist anybody who gives money to the left, can't be trusted, which is of course why we need only people who believe in the right on the Supreme court. That makes perfect sense. So then I was confused by this part that he brings up about being an executive for an RU 486 company, um, because I have no idea what that is. RU 486 is, uh, uh, basically what they term an abortion pill.

So like there's the morning after pill that isn't an abortive pill, but if you are too late for that, you can take RU 486, um, and it will cause, uh, an abortion to happen. It's the intermediate period between when it's too late for the morning after pill and when it's not late enough for you to have to do the whole shebang where they go in there with the stuff and it's a mess. And it has to do with like disruption of hormones and cortisol, uh, that RU 486, uh, does. Sure. So I was wondering about this because this is also not a criticism that I've heard, um,

and it's interesting because this is also based on a piece by Mike Adams that he posted in natural news. Great. Great. Thanks, Mike. So the smoking gun that Mike has dug up is that Dr. Blasey Ford is listed as one of the authors on a couple of studies listed as publications put out by a business called Corsept, which is a pharmaceutical manufacturer that, uh, puts out, uh, uh, Miff Pristone,

which is the name of RU 486. Oh, okay. So also Alex saying it's not on the market. I have no idea what he means by that. How could you have a hundred billion dollar company with nothing on the market? That, I mean, capitalism is crazy, but it's not that crazy. I have no idea what he means by that because RU 486 has been around since, I mean, I remember Dr. Drew talking about it on Love Line back when I was 12, you know, so it's been 20 years

that I've been aware of it. Yeah. At least since women have been able to vote like 15, 20 years ago, that was about when we gave them the right. Give or take. Yeah. So Mike Adams alleges that this Corsept sells RU 486, which is an abortion pill, and thus Ford must be lying about her accusations about Kavanaugh in order to protect abortion

because of her financial stake in this business Corsept. That tracks perfectly. So if you go to Corsept's website and review the studies that have her name attached, you'll find that they are mispristone treatment in Olazapine induced weight gain in healthy men. Mispristone reduces weight gain and improves metabolic abnormalities associated with risk baradone treatment in normal men. Administration of selective corticoid, a glucocorticoid antagonist attenuates electroconvulsive shock induced retrograde amnesia.

Selective glucocorticoid receptor type two antagonists prevent weight gain caused by Olazapine and rats. Selective glucocorticoid receptor GR antagonist reduces body weight gain and mice. Discovery of a novel noose non-steroidal GR antagonist with in vivo efficacy in the Olazapine induced weight gain model in the rat. Okay. So if I understand that correctly, what she is doing is they've got this product. That mispristone is called an abortion pill.

Which is one use of it. Which is one use of it. And she is like, or at least they were like, hey, what if we could use it for other stuff? And she was like, yeah, sure, fuck it, let's see if it makes people lose weight or reduces weight gain. Totally. Because of the effect that it has that induces abortion has to do with corticoid levels. So it's almost like it's not a pill designed for one thing.

No. It's a pharmaceutical that can be used to do all kinds of things and we just found out it could do one thing. Well, I mean the classic example of this that I remember from when I was younger was that well buttern was sold as an anti-depressant, but then under another name it was sold as a smoking cessation aid. So these sorts of things in the pharmaceutical industry are very common. So none of this research has anything to do with abortions.

It's nonsense. So also in 2015, a Palo Alto University document lists for it as the director of biostatistics at Corset. So even allowing that she might have been employed by them three years ago, that doesn't prove that she is now, which kind of hurts this motives argument that he's trying to put forth, that she's trying to protect this from a financial motive. Further, it appears that if anything, Ford was working to study new applications of pristone that aren't as a pill that can induce abortion.

If anything, this should be seen as proof that she has less of a motive to destroy her own life to keep abortion legal if the argument is that she's financially motivated by the interest in the company. The article and the basis of this argument would be flimsy as hell on its own, but it's made completely unacceptable by Mike Adams inability to stop himself from also calling forward a whore throughout the article. Quote, Christine Basely scrubs her internet history to eliminate evidence of hazy drunken sex parties documented in her high school yearbook.

The high school yearbook of Christine Blasey is full of accounts of wild drunken sex parties attended by Blasey and others, you know, like most yearbooks. He concludes by patting himself on the back for a job well done. Quote, now it all becomes clear. Christine Blasey clearly fabricated the false allegations against Kavanaugh in order to protect her own income and profits from an abortion pill drug company whose future might be impacted by Kavanaugh's confirmation on the court. So that's what I have to say about this RU 486 angle.

I think it makes no sense. And the article that Mike Adams wrote about it is full of shit. I mean, it based on based on that it is not just it just it doesn't just remove the motive. It actually would suggest a complete 180 degrees motive, whereas I don't think if abortion were made illegal, her research would be even more important to the company because they've got this thing and they got to find another use for it. Yeah, somewhat, but I still I'm not I'm not saying that that's a look, look, this whole thing is bullshit.

I'm just saying that if you're going to pull that argument, then it doesn't make any fucking sense on its head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is it is only going to reinforce an argument against your own argument. I think yeah, I think that's a fair way to put it. Yeah, it doesn't make an argument in the alternative. No, no, no, no, but it makes your argument like the actual facts make your argument weak and slightly pull things the other direction.

Exactly. So anyway, Alex isn't done, but I needed to get that out during the RU 486 portion. Good call. And we looked at how she was part of a whole manhating organization and how she supported by Soros back groups and how her testimony kept contradicting itself and how whatever happened to innocent till proven guilty and why did they sit on the allegations until right before the vote on and on and on instead of looking at what she did at Stanford and one other university even currently what she does and she is in a public mind control

operation that implants false memories and removes memories. So again, this is very clear what his assertion is. Yes. I just want that to be driven home. She can keeps repeating this. She can. Yeah. She can keep memories that are not real, but she can also remove memories that are real

Dan. Well, see, I don't think that that's legally actionable if you say that she can do that. Right. Because that would just be like, but it's like, I'm just calling you a wizard. You're going to sue me for that? You know, like, I don't know, prove I'm a wizard. I think it is legally actionable to claim that she's involved in that sort of study for nefarious purposes and shit like that.

Right. I mean, I still... That's a harder, that's a harder sue. I wouldn't sue. I wouldn't either. But I think you could. So finally, now we get to the point where Alex reads a little bit of Mike's report. And now let's see what is actually in there, according to Alex.

And then I'll tell you on the other side, what's in there. And then you read the report. Cabinocusor, Christine, Blasey Ford ran mass hypnotic inductions. Did you hear that? Mass hypnotic inductions putting you into a hypnotic spell. For those of you who can't see, Dan is raising his eyebrows at you. It's part of mind control research funded by the foundation link to computational psycho Maddox.

Yeah. Keep saying words. Psycho somatic, neuro hijacking. Keep doing it. Neuro hijacking. Nothing to see here. Nothing going on. Stunning bombshell about the hoax accusations against Brent Cabinot.

And you hear her say how she remembered it a few years ago and then told the therapist by name, but it's not in the notes. And then the dog was there at the window and then she decided to go public. I mean, maybe she's under mind control. My God, stunning bombshell about the hoax accusations against Brent Cabinot. We've now learned and confirmed that Christine Blasey Ford coauthored a science paper that involves her carrying out quote hypnotic inductions of psychiatric subjects as part of mind control program that cites methods to create artificial situations.

Did you hear that? Did you hear that? People in the trance is so deep that they are under total mind control and believe whatever they're told. Sure. Internet sluice are turning up an extraordinary collection of evidence that recently points to Christine Blasey Ford being involved in mind control programs at Stanford, writes Mike Adams, which some claim are run by the CIA.

It's DARPA funding it. That's above the CIA. He can't prove that in any way, the CIA or DARPA, both, both of those things are nowhere near proven in any of this. Also, I don't think that the hierarchy, I don't think that the hierarchy is like a CIA DARPA is above the CIA. Like, I don't, I don't think they're related to just. Yeah.

Well, that's actually true. Fair enough. I apologize that I couldn't stop waggling my eyebrows at you, but they were, there was a serious waggle. They were traveling. Oh boy. Yeah. So now you just say neuro hijacking the way that he did.

Neuro. I can't. I can't like with my throat in the shape that it's in right now. I can't do it. Neuro hijacking. One of the God. That's so good. That sounds like we're in a cyberpunk future.

Might as well be in that movie. Hey, one of those, one of the difficult cyberpunk. One of the difficulties of being on the mend from this, this illness is, I don't think I can do an Alex impression. I think I would fucking destroy my neck. Hey, everybody. Nope. Nope.

Nope. Don't do it. So don't even attempt. Now it's time to bear all. I enjoyed listening to Alex repeatedly, bring up that she's in mind control studies and all of this because here's the actual reality, Alex Jones claims that he's found in red studies that Dr. Blasey Ford was engaged in at Stanford that are clear evidence of mind control, but literally literally the only study he links to in his inforrs article is to a 2008 study

where Dr. Ford was one of 11 researchers cited. She wasn't even the lead on it. I would guess that Alex was very intentionally not reading out the name of the study because even that would make his shit looks super weak. Here's the name of it. So meditation with yoga, group therapy with hypnosis and psycho education for long term depressed mood, a randomized pilot trial, the pilot mind control, the pilot study that she was a participant in set out to see if there were any differences in terms of outcomes

for depressed patients treated with psycho education, which is really just a form of therapy that involves education about mental illnesses, whether it's educating the actual patient or generally it'll be their family members and friends to help them be a support network for the person. That's all psycho, psycho education. Let's remove any kind of mysticism around this. This is here, you are a depressed person. What we're going to do is we're not going to give you any medication, but we are going

to talk you through what depression is experiencing and then we're going to talk to your family so that they can understand and communicate with you better and that way you don't feel the friction that you get whenever you're depressed all the time where you feel like you're alone and miserable and nobody else is fucking around you. It's been shown to be, there's been indications that it's more successful than just individual therapy, but I don't know if there's, I don't know if that's a consensus opinion yet, but it's nothing really strange. It sounds bad, psycho education.

I mean, when you're depressed, what your default is, I am being ostracized, so educating the people around you gives you like a workaround for that where you're like, not only am I not actually being ostracized, but I know that I'm not being ostracized. Right. But the term, all I'm saying is it sounds bad. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. And it's not.

That's what I'm, yeah, yeah. So you've got psycho education. That's one group in this tripartite study. There's three groups in the study. One is just treated in psycho education. The second is meditation and yoga in addition to psychotherapy and hypnosis, again with the addition of psycho education. This is a pretty standard experiment with a control group and two variables.

There's nothing nefarious or scary about hypnosis being used in a clinical setting. It's a very widely used therapeutic tool and absolutely nothing to do with mind control. Oh yeah? I've been in therapy that's used hypnosis before and it's, it's been sometimes a very, very useful tool, sometimes incredibly annoying. Yeah. Because you'll just be sitting there like, I'm not, this isn't doing anything. I'm sitting there like, I am not getting in any kind of comfortable state.

In fact, this is annoying me. So the article on info wars is written by the health ranger, Mike Adams, and it's a textbook case of cherry picking words in order to warp meaning. And it should serve as a perfect demonstration of how Mike Adams is a less trustworthy source for medical information than me, a high school dropout. I was getting a little petty when I, You were getting a little petty. I forgot about that.

You were getting a little petty. When I wrote this script out. That was a little petty. Got to call myself. All right, I like it. I like it. No, and it's great. It's great.

I do like it. This all made me very mad. So in the article, Mike says, quote, the full text of the research paper describes methods to quote, create artificial situations. He then goes on to start a quote from the text with an ellipsis, quote, assist in the retrieval of important memories and create artificial situations that would permit the client to express ego, dystonic emotions in a safe manner. So right there, the create artificial situations is what Alex quoted, right, as being some

sort of a implanting false memories. Right, right, right. That was what the implication that Alex was trying to make, right. So that all the quote that there is there that starts the ellipsis, it sounds kind of bad, create artificial situations, you know, like, you know, the context of that sounds a little bad, but it also sounds like bad grammar. So I went and checked the study to see what he was talking about. Well, because the first thing I think of is Indiana Jones would be in artificial situations

often artifacts, it belongs in a museum, man, it belongs in a museum. As does this rhetoric, it's old as shit. So it turns out that Mike caught out the beginning of that quote very intentionally. As just before where he starts, the study is discussing how hypnosis is a legitimate therapeutic tool. And in fact, this quote is that he's pulled is not from the discussion of the study at all. Instead, it's about the historical view of hypnosis.

Here's the quote in context quote hypnosis is a form of highly focused attention with a relative constriction on peripheral awareness and has been used successfully as an adjunct to therapy for depression. In 1964, Abrams suggested that hypnosis could be used to improve rapport in the therapeutic relationship, assist in the retrieval of important memories and create artificial situations that would permit the client to express ego, dystonic emotions in a safe manner. Gotcha. So you have right there that he's completely taking this out of context to imply that that

quote is in relation to the actual study that's being done as opposed to it being background about the history of the use of hypnosis in therapeutic sessions. Like this is incredibly, this is the clunkyest thing I've ever, it's not clunky, it's intentional. But like if this was someone who has had good faith and was coming from a place of like, I actually believe what I'm putting down on the page, right, I would say that you're the most incompetent reader I've ever seen in my life. Right. Like if that's what you're pulling from this, you're doing it terribly, but of course it's

intentional. It's kind of, it is kind of a, an interesting situation though, there is that he kind of, he kind of gets us into this place where you ask yourself the question, should we teach people in bad faith how to read or should we teach people who act in bad faith how to read or should we teach people who act in bad faith how to read better because he is doing both poorly. I would argue that, you know, I know, I think he's actually reading well because he's cutting out the points that would show him to be a liar.

Right. So I think he's actually, maybe he just doesn't even understand those points. See, but that's what I'm talking about. That would be what I would believe if someone was operating from a good faith position, right? That they don't understand. And there's like, well, I'm stupid. This is not stupid.

This is malicious. He calls himself the head, the health ranger. This is malicious. I mean, we already saw the article that he wrote about the RU 486 stuff. Oh yeah. You're right. No, no. You know what?

I'm going to, I'm going to go on your team here. I think he's a bad guy. So I'm guessing that Alex Jones thinks that Mike Adams use a selective use of quotations and stuff like that involves mass mind control because the study set up had a group that was referenced to as receiving hypnosis therapy, but they also received that in a group setting. The reasoning of the researchers is that group therapy has been shown to be very effective in treating depression as depression often includes as you clearly already brought up a major element of feeling isolated and like no one understands what you're experiencing.

So putting people in a situation where they're getting this hypnosis that is just really a guided way to focus your attention and to cut off peripheral stimuli, say it's mindfulness or meditation or whatever. That's the other group. Yeah. That's the, that's the meditation. So it's basically two slight forks of the same idea to some extent. One is guided hypnotic focus and the other is meditative states you can achieve through

yoga and meditation. So he, I don't see anything suspicious about the idea of like having a group therapy session that involves hypnosis to test whether or not that provides a better outcome for treating depressed people. I wouldn't see anything suspicious there, but that is because she has implanted your mind with those memories, Dan. So in the end, here's the study's conclusion. Quote, the present pilot study examined whether meditation with yoga and psychoeducation or

group therapy with hypnosis and psychoeducation could affect diagnostic status and or depressive symptoms when compared to psychoeducation alone among a sample of adults suffering from long term depression. We found promising preliminary support for the use of these interventions to improve diagnostic status and ward off the development of further major depressive episodes. We did not though demonstrate statistically significant improvement in overall symptoms to report over the course of the study. The conclusion of the study is that meditation and yoga appears to be the most effective,

but that hypnosis appears to be better than just psychotherapy, but ultimately their data doesn't show statistically relevant trends to state that conclusively. Thus, it's a little strange that Mike Adams makes this declaration in his article about this study. Quote, from the published paper co-authored by Christine Blasey Ford, we know she's intimately familiar with mass hypnosis, self-hypnosis, and mind alteration processes, all of which are being deployed in this staged false flag assault on Brett Kavanaugh. Through carefully crafted leaks, cover-ups, and media narratives, almost half of the nation

has already been mass hypnotized into believing that an innocent man is a deranged serial rapist, such as the power of CIA mind control deployed on a nationwide scale. So you see the argument that's developed because she is involved with a mass mind control study, that's what she's doing to the world. You know, that's a really fascinating thing because she's a super villain in this case. Exactly! To see the level by which they judge science is so fascinating to me where they're like, eh, come on, there's no way that anybody could know anything about the climate.

I mean, obviously, yes, if they're doing a study, they can control minds. Even if the study's results are like, well, we did a lot of stuff, and statistically, it was maybe better, it was kind of insignificant, we would need to do more research. That's essentially what she came up with, and what they're coming up with is they did a study that means they can control minds. Now, of course, science can't do any of this other shit, but it can control fucking minds. So that's what's so interesting, because Alex and Mike Adams' relationship with science, at least in this instance, the way you're describing, which I think is pretty accurate.

Which is that it's a super-powered magic machine. Well, no, but it's the same thing with the globalists. They have to, like for every sort of nebulous force that they're up against, they have to be omnipotent and also completely fucking stupid. Yeah, exactly. That's the only way that they can characterize their enemies, because that's the only space in which the con really works. They have to be overpowered to a crazy extent, but then when it's convenient, you can't tell

anything about the climate from research and shit like that. I mean, you brought up Scientology, but it is when they reveal the limits of their imagination that you're like, well, this is fucking stupid, is when, look, hey, there are these infinite beings who can travel through space and time and all this stuff. They did fly B-25 bombers, though, like what the fuck are you doing? Right. What are you talking about? Your imagination is shit.

Yeah. Quit. Well, I mean, that's even kind of like the way that I jokingly made the line with Sophia Stewart. You can't even imagine a way for your liens to be prosecuted without you paying for them. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking figure it out.

Right. Do a second draft on your bullshit. That's why they're where they are, though. Second drafts are not their... That's why old Robert Hubbard is where he was. Yeah, that's a good point. First draft. First draft.

Get it out the door. So this stuff isn't done yet, unfortunately. But this is the main study. God, now I'm going to go back and listen to the dead author's pot. Should. So good. So fucking good. Andy Daly.

Andy Daly is so good as Elrod. And on the pilot podcast project. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. A lot of Elrod Hubbard fun. Anyway, so this bullshit, unfortunately, isn't done. That's the main study that all of this idea of mind control traces back to. But Mike Adams article is actually about a whole lot more.

And Alex in this next clip starts to touch on that. And it's so wack. The Mental Insight Foundation also funded a study on inner. Space. Seption and neuroimaging to control the mind through biological intervention. That means drugs, chemicals, radio waves. You name it. And then guess what's right here?

Boom. And it just gets crazier and crazier. So that is from a study that Alex is again, taking out a context. But the stuff about the, the implanting voices and stuff like that. That's all from Mike Adams article where he's talking about what the globalists have. The idea that globalists have that weapon and shit like that. So that's not even like, that's, that's wack as hell. It's, it's, you shouldn't, you shouldn't, it's such a, how, how is it that we live in

such a tiered world of like, Alex doesn't even understand the words that he's saying. Like he doesn't understand the words that he's saying. And yet, like you shouldn't even, he shouldn't even be allowed to read articles about science without taking a fucking bachelor's course in that science because he just doesn't understand it. Like in this situation, obviously he's using them in bad faith, but he also has no idea what they're fucking talking about. No, no clue.

And he didn't read the, the source stuff about it at all. Of course not. He's literally only operating off Mike Adams. Yeah. He couldn't read the source stuff. No. And it's the same thing that he always does. Like with the avian flu stuff, he's operating off Paul Joseph Watson's assessment.

All of these people like Mike Adams, like Paul Joseph Watson, like Curt Nimmo back in the day, like Steve Watson, all of them serve the most essential purpose. And that is that they take whatever raw material is there and turn it into fuel that Alex can use. Yeah. Cause Alex can't use the raw material. He's not creative enough and he's can't be bothered to read. So he couldn't take these original articles or those studies and do this with it.

You've read those studies. They're hard to read. Well, that first one actually wasn't the, the first, the, I mean, there, there are plenty though that are like, you read those and you're like, holy shit, this is, oh, totally. Wow. Why? Whoa, man. You guys, you guys got to learn how to throw fucking there before I pay any attention to

this. Frequently. Yes. Yeah. The study that Dr. Ford was involved in, in 2008, by the way, this mind control study. Yeah. It was very easy to read, but I will say that the second one was a nicer time back then. The second one was a little bit more difficult.

And so at the beginning of the clip, Mike Adams, he's making this argument that this group, the mental insight foundation, funded the original study from 2008 that Dr. Ford is involved in. Yeah. And another study on interception. So you could say they're a bit miffed. I'm sorry. Interoception.

Yeah. I get you. Thank you. Good acronym work. So they're trying, they're trying to bridge the gap between these two, but at no point do they prove that Miff was involved with Dr. Ford's study. And simultaneously, they don't even prove or try to prove that the second study that they're talking about Dr. Ford and anything to do with, or that it was even involving

Stanford or anything. So here is Alex talking about this second study. And I will tell you this ahead of time. All he's doing is looking at a diagram from the study and imagining what it means. But then it gets even crazier. You got to go read this. It gets into the different waves to hit the heart, the amplitude to hit different organs to attack the stomach, to attack the brain.

And it talks about in this huge paper, Vegas nerve stimulation, presentation of information during different phases of visceral rhythms and assessment. And it goes all three different waves. Like I told you to mind control you. Look at these documents. I did. So the important thing is that this, this document, the study, it does include a picture of the human body.

Yes. And then there's pictures of different organs and then wave forms next to them. All right. It's very clear from the study that what they're doing is talking about a hypothetical example of the amplitude modulation signals superimposed on a static frequency. They're talking about the, the sort of homeostatic rhythm that those organs are in. It's important because this article, and it's not. So.

So he kind of thinks that it's waves that are happening to you. He thinks he, he thinks it's, which would be fun. I would even, I would even be better if he thought they were stink lines. He was like, this is how bad the liver stinks. Like I'm fine with that. But. And Mike Adams is facilitating that misunderstanding. Oh yeah.

Absolutely. So the first one, the first article is weak shit. And if anybody looked it up, they would see that the title of it is yoga meditation, the hypnosis as a treatment for depression. And they, if they read it, they would find the conclusion being, you know, maybe not statistically significant though. It's a sigma and they would see that Dr. Ford is one of 11 participants in this is nothing to do with anything nefarious at all.

So that was weak shit. So that didn't demonstrate any of the things that Alex or Mike are claiming it does because that's the case. They have to dig a little deeper and in doing so, they come up with the most flimsy connection to Dr. Ford to make their argument quote for Mike Adams. If you venture even deeper down this rabbit hole, you find that the same mental insight foundation that funded the mass hypnosis mind control study on which Christine Ford work also helped another study, help fund another study called interoception and mental health,

a roadmap. One problem is that this article nor any of its links prove that mental health mental insight foundation funded the depression study that Dr. Ford was involved in from everything I can tell this is speculative and unfounded. And if it's true, it doesn't mean anything. But from that shaky start, the health ranger then tries to make Ford look super suspicious because the company that allegedly provided funding for a study she was one of 11 researchers on did another study that she wasn't involved in 10 years later than Mike Adams is scared

of. Even if everything he's saying there is true, it has zero to do with Ford. This is deeply disgraceful and so fucking unprofessional. Because this shit is weak too, Mike Adams has to play a three card Monty game with this article in order to distract the reader from realizing he's saying nothing. He brings up the interoception article, which I'll talk about in a minute, then he quickly goes to how the globalists have created sonic weapons in order to implant that idea in his readers heads about what the article must be about.

And that's what Alex is reading on air talking about what he believes this study to be about. So Mike Adams throws up a graphic where there are wiggle lines and then unrelated to that says, you know, sonic weapons are real and then comes back to it. And so as though those two are related in instead, sonic weapons are like a non sequitur in this whole situation only to be precise about it. He brings up sonic weapons early so that idea is implanted in your mind. So later when he puts that graphic on right squiggly lines, squiggly lines, science, sonic weapons, makes sense.

Yeah. Perfect. Good work, dude. So he's introduced the premise of this idea that the mental insight foundation has done both of these studies. Right. Ford is involved. Which he's not involved.

Not at all. So then he brings up the sonic weapons and goes, like I said, he's implanting that in your mind. Right. Which don't exist. Then he executes this main slide of hand, one that is unbelievably dishonest. After implanting the idea of sonic weapons in his reader's head, he says, quote, getting back to Christine Blasey Ford's work in interoception neuroimaging.

The paper funded by mental insight foundation openly admits that the neuroimaging roadmap can alter decisions, behavior and even consciousness. It explains, quote, recent years have witnessed a surge of interest on the topic of interoception due to do in part to findings highlighting its integral role in emotional experience, self regulation, decision making and consciousness. Importantly, interoception is not limited to the conscious perception or even unique to the human species. Dr. Ford has zero to do with this article about interoception and neuroimaging.

Nothing to do with it. Her name isn't on it. No organization that she's involved in is involved in this article. So getting back to Christine Blasey Ford's work on interoception neuroimaging is a dishonest, deceitful way to present this. So, oh shit. He pulls the trifecta. He goes unrelated thing up top.

By the way, while you're thinking about that unrelated thing, the thing that isn't real. Let me remind you that she's involved in all this. Getting back to the thing that she was not involved in, but I'm just going to say getting back to Dr. Christine Blasey Ford and then grammatically, you have no choice but to accept that when I say, and, you think I'm connecting those two things together. However, I'm really not saying that they're related at all. He doesn't even go that far. He doesn't say, and blank, blank, blank.

He's very clearly, just from grammar, saying that she was involved in this study. Really? Which isn't a study, by the way. Dude, you could do better than that. It's really, that's why I say the slight hint is unprofessional as hell and deeply disgusting. It's trying to paint a picture that is absolutely not real. That's why he's the health ranger, not the health colonel. She's only involved in that study about yoga and depression that Mike linked to in his

article by, it's only linked in the article by claiming that this company funded them 10 years apart, but he didn't even prove that. So additionally, this article about interoception is not about what Mike is claiming. Interoception is basically just the internal perceptions of what one's body is experiencing. Essentially, it's a word used to describe how the information from your body goes to your brain from your experiential organs and what have you. And this paper, which is not a study, it's a paper, just describes how external input is interpreted by the body and is in turn experienced by the brain.

Ultimately, my interoceptive feeling today is one of fury, because Mike Adams got me to read this long, boring science article for no reason. Even if it was about mind control, which it's not, it has nothing to do with Dr. Ford or anyone she's been shown to be involved with. Mike Adams is not a doctor, nor does he have any qualifications, but because he calls himself the health ranger and runs a bullshit medical conspiracy website, Alex brings him in to lend some authority to his disgraceful, embarrassing charades solely intended to create a grand conspiracy around Dr. Blasey Ford.

Not believing her is not cruel enough for people like Alex. Not caring is not cruel enough for people like Alex. Because lost for being a horrible person is not satisfied unless he publicly argues that her story and her pain are actually an attack on himself and all men. This is profoundly disgusting, and I have no further words to describe it. It is shameful. Done. Now, there's a little bit more.

You know, you did, you did get it right, I think, right there. This entire, this entire thing. If like, to the point where the only reason, because you, you have to think about this and you're like, there are other judges who would be just as awful. Yeah. There are so many other judges who would be just as awful. Well. But this isn't about, this isn't about him being judged.

This is about, this is about men. This is about men destroying, like, these dudes, these dudes, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely white men. It's not explicit, but it's implicit. I mean, Clarence, Clarence Thomas is in there. Oh, shit. Clarence Thomas, Clarence Thomas, Clarence Thomas. Oh, shit.

It's about them, like, if it had been, I feel like, this is probably not true. But if you go to a place in your head hypothetically where it's like, some guy goes in front of Congress and is like, this dude was drunk all the time. He has terrible decision making. He cheated and all that stuff. There would be none of this reaction. No. But because it was a woman and it was specifically about sexual violence, every one of these

dudes, every single one of them in the fucking planet who are, are predisposed to say that women can never experience it. And if they do, they were asking for it. So it's always their fault. All of those dudes came out of the woodwork and this subconscious level of just screaming like, it's not real. That's what all of these guys are screaming is just like, it is not real ever. It is not possible to do this because women are either asking for it and then it's their

fault or they're lying about it and it's double their fault. Well, and then the third thing is, or we just don't care. Or we just don't care. And that's sort of the main, which is where Jeff Flake is. That's sort of the mainstream right, especially is and Susan Collins and yeah, that's sort of where a lot of those people are, but because Alex demands to be special in some way, right? And the only way he can express his specialness anymore in the Trump era is by abject cruelty. That's not good enough for him, right?

He needs to double down and this is his manifestation of it. Yeah. And it's really funny. Like we can laugh a ton about the idea of him coming on air and being like, she's a fucking mind control or whatever. But the motivation behind it is deeply cruel. The motivation behind it is deeply abusive and I think he takes as red that it didn't happen.

You know, like, oh yeah, absolutely. Or that he doesn't care even if it did. Of course. So all of the stuff that offends most right thinking people is just like implausible. Oh yeah. Yeah. We don't even need to worry about that. Not only that, but what look, if you want to just hear about how all women are lying

about this shit, go somewhere else. Let me tell you about what's really going on. She's lying about that shit, but that's also because she can control minds. And as is made clear in that Mike Adams article, the entire charade, the entire thing of her coming and speaking to the Senate Judiciary Committee is an attempt and also the stories that have come out about it. It's all a mass hypnosis campaign that's being perpetrated on the public. Right.

It's a way to invalidate everything. So even if you are somebody who normally supports conservatives, normally supports everybody, but you listen to her testimony and you realized, holy shit, I can hear a human being's voice and a human being's voice that has experienced pain. And even as far gone as I am, there's something intrinsic about when a human voice cries out in pain that I identify with. Let me tell you what I got for you, sir, you are a moment of empathy. Guess what I got for that mind control, baby, get rid of that empathy and go back to hating

women. All you want. So, um, that's about, that's about where I want to talk about this at. Yeah. And now I want to talk a little bit more about how bad a fucking dude Mike Adams is. Let's fucking this guy needs to die. Well, I'll do, I think, well, hold on. That's me.

I have his test. Me and this Georgetown Loverville, sorry, I stepped on your joke there. So the step on it, you crushed it. So I'm not going to give you like a breakdown of Mike Adams greatest hits or anything like that. We can save that for another day. Right. Right.

But I started to get a real whiff of how bad a fucking writer he is, how bad of a storyteller he is within these articles. Yeah. I hadn't spent a lot of time reading his actual articles before. Yeah. Why would you? It's funny how shitty a researcher like Adams is. He's trying to paint this organizational, uh, organization, mental insight foundation

is some kind of archvillain group in this article. So he try, he shows off his ability to Google things and then imply shit about what he's found. That's a good skill. It's so funny without like throughout this entire article, he says things like this, quote, we are not alleging any nefarious, unethical or illegal activities on the part of mental insight foundation. However, to help other internet researchers follow the many leads now uncovered in all

this, we're publishing public information about this foundation that's readily available on online public text documents. He just got, he just got done in this article saying that they're trying to control your minds and that Dr. Ford's testimony was a literal attempt to brain control the country. But also you have to make sure you know that there's not alleging any nefarious or unethical activities. Hey, hey, come on. So he then he ends up listing a bunch of, uh, any resemblance to public information

to persons living or dead is purely coincidental. Right. And there's no, yeah. At this point, Mike really steps in it. Quote, the mental insight foundation took in a whopping $18 million in 2015, according to tax records. Its address is five, three, eight Broadway suite, a Sonoma, California, which appears to be a single family house.

This is complete bullshit. You can go to Google street view and see that the address is in the commercial downtown district in Sonoma, California. It's across the street from Sonoma Valley Museum of Art and is exactly 463 feet away from Sonoma Plaza, the literal town square. Not to mention that suite A is part of the address, which generally isn't a feature of single family homes. Also you can find that Vin Trace, a company that sells software to help vineyards run

is located in suite B, but maybe maybe that Vin Trace is just a front for Dr. Ford's mind control weapon program. No, it's just a bigger family. So then Mike, it's really conspiratorial at this point quote that address Vin Trace, Vin Trace. Vin Trace. I want to hear more about them. I like them.

I looked into it a little bit. Yeah. I don't fully understand it because I don't run a fucking vineyard, but it's like a specialized software that vineyards can use in order to keep track of supply and when grapes need to be harvested and shit. That's awesome. Yeah. Absolutely nefarious.

That you know what it is. Exactly the same sort of software I've encountered in other jobs that are like super specialized for one thing that no one else would know about. Here's a, here's a basic thing. And then we took this basic thing and we made it super specific. We all know single family homes that are in suite B when Vin Trace corporate office is in suite. Dude, you, you hate it.

You hate the moment when you have to grab your broom and you start pounding on the ceiling and you're like, quit learning about vineyards up there. So it gets even worse. Quote, that address is the exact same address listed by Virginia Hubble associates, a small firm that says it offers, quote, consulting services for family foundations. If Mike had done any research, he would know that they share an office and operate as the same business. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what?

Yeah. If he'd looked at the same place, I called them, of course you did. I, I've never, I've never called anybody on this show, but their phone number was publicly available. So I called them and I called them right around lunchtime and I got the answering machine and he said, thank you for calling Virginia Hubble slash mental insight foundation. It's the same fucking company. It's a, well, the, you, you know what?

You left off the last part of that message, which is it's me, Marilyn and the kids and we're just running these two separate financial businesses. Call it dinner time. If Mike had looked into this at all, he also could have find the MIF's 2006 tax forms that clearly show that Virginia Hubble associates is listed as the foundation managers of their organization. There's nothing weird about this. Virginia Hubble associates is a larger umbrella consultancy business and MIF is an entity that

awards grants to various organizations, a lot of arts programs, a lot of children's education. Right. Right. Mike goes on to list seven of the businesses that Virginia Hubble lists as clients curious that he chooses only to include the seven quote corporate clients and not list, let's say the city of Albuquerque. That is why people from Albuquerque are fucked up.

You just explained everything. The city of Sonoma, yeah, further proof wine country, the city of Reno, well, or Berkeley Childe Art Institute, who knows what those kids are or the community gardens project. Those gardens are made of mind control or Star Cross community, Romanian babies, health and welfare. You know what? They're never going to fall in love. It's a special place in my heart to spend a little bit of time growing up in Bucharest.

So shout out Romania. He lists the clients that he does solely so he can make this speculation quote. Most of the clients appear to be genuinely helpful organizations for society, but they're probably worth a second look from internet researchers. Probably notably the Levi Strauss corporation recently came out in favor of destroying the second amendment by pushing gun control. That's super weak. So Levi Strauss is one of the clients, right?

Right. Right. Right. Associates. That's one of their seven. No, I picked that one up. Yeah. So yeah, he's like, they want to destroy the second amendment, which they don't.

They just have expressed support for Colin Kaepernick and everyone's. Oh, well, obviously that means so like, man, everybody's dumb. Mike goes on to flail wildly about nothing quote statement 11 of the document he's talking about their like tax returns lists the officers, directors, trustees and key employees of the mental insight foundation. Notably, they're all paid nothing except for the treasurer. In other words, most of the directors are paid nothing, but the management consultant Virginia Hubble Associates is paid $341,000.

We're not alleging any unscrupulous activities among these individuals. They're public officers of a public foundation listed in a public document. These individuals are any lists off the officers, many of whom are named Kimpton, which is not suspicious unless you're the health ranger because Mike then says quote, if you're noticing a lot of Kimpton names on this list, that's probably because one of the primary sources of income for the mental insight foundation is the Kim, Kimpton hotel group LLC, which generated $2.3 million in revenue for the foundation in 2015. There's nothing illegal about that.

It's just an interesting note. No, it's not. I would say there's nothing illegal about this. Yes. And there's nothing interesting to note. It's nothing interesting. The Kimpton family is exorbitantly rich, but they aren't old money rich. The patriarch of the family, Bill Kimpton came from humble roots.

He went to the army and after he got out, he became a typewriter salesman. Wait, I assume you're not reading from Mike Adams article. This is my research. I was going to say, I was like, if Mike Adams just went into the history of the Kimpton family, that would be a really interesting, yeah. Mike Adams research for this article is so bad that I feel the need to show off by telling you about the history of the Kimpton family. The patriarch of the family, Bill Kimpton came from humble roots.

He went to the army and then he, when he got out, he became a typewriter salesman. He eventually got into investment banking and made a whole lot of money, which he used to make even more money by opening the Kimpton family of hotels. Isn't that amazing that there was a time where you could go from being a typewriter salesman to investment banker, just like, ah, you know what, this door to door typewriting isn't working out. This shit is heavy. I guess I'll invest in Apple.

Right. So now he created this hotel group, which he represents now over 35 high end hotels and 29 restaurants, but money was not his God. Quote, once during an interview with success magazine, he stressed his belief that in America success wasn't, was overly tied to earning money. Real success, he said, came from devoting oneself fully to family and friends. In that sense, he said, I've been partially successful. Quote, Mr. Oh my God, this guy is right on it.

Quote, Mr. Kimpton founded the mental health, sorry, mental insight foundation in 1996 and has funded a number of research projects into various forms of mental illness. The foundation has particular interest in treating depression, using therapy and meditation as alternatives to simply using prescription drugs, which is something that Alex should be super in favor of. You would think. Based on his whole anti meds standpoint, Kimpton and his life's work should be something that Alex is 100% on board with.

Bill died in April of 2001 and the mental insight foundation lives on in the stewardship of his wife, Isabelle, his son, Graham Kimpton, his daughter, Laura Kimpton, her husband, Len Delamico and other family members that I can't quite sort out who they are. You know what's crazy is Bill Kimpton was actually Sophia's mentor could be out there. Yeah. Yeah. There's nothing strange in seeing this family's hotel group donating to this family's charity. All this information is publicly available and Mike could have learned any of this if

he cared about the story. He was reporting at all. Mike, just Googled Kimpton. Mike goes on to say, quote, the foundation donated money to the following groups. We're not alleging anything nefarious on this list by the way. You really shouldn't need to put so many disclaimers in one article unless you're lying out your ass about it. Right.

You know why he's doing that though? Because he knows he's lying out his ass about it. Well, there's that. And he also knows how unhinged the people who are the internet researchers that might follow up with these leads are. We want internet researchers to go to the Kimpton family's house and then pull a gun on them and then fire into the wall. It's not that big a deal.

Maybe not that far, but he is encouraging the potential harassment of these philanthropists. Kimpton gate. Right. I know exactly. Yeah. And so he's preemptively creating damage control in the article. We're not saying anything bad here. Absolutely.

But maybe this is interesting. This is pathetic. And he was probably pissed that he had to put it in there in the first place. He was he was probably like. He keeps getting. Exactly. He's watching everybody else get sued and he's like, God dammit, I can't even make these claims.

He got in a bunch of hot water because he's the guy who created hog watch. That website that was about harassing David Hogg in the aftermath of the Parkland shooting. What you created hog watch.com. God. Yeah. If that was just a webcam of some hogs, that would actually probably be great. Oh, by the way, our friend Sarah Shockey of the great Marty and Sarah love wrestling podcast tweeted something recently about there's a fat bear watch week.

Or something like that. Sure. That the national parks put on fine where they have like eyes on fat bears. That's great. I love it. See, now this is what hog watch could have been. See that. Adams, you stole hog watch from us.

Fat bear watching and gritty. The mascot are the only thing that the Phillies, the only things that we hope those are. Those are doing great. Yeah. Fat bear watch. That was like, wasn't there? Wasn't there like an Eagles? So much better than shark week.

Fat bears. Oh, fat bears. Come on. Well, sure. We, it's just cause we're so familiar with shark week. True. True. Now, if once, you know, Dan, I hate to say this, but I think we're getting into a very

bear V shark conversation. We are. This is a bekelder moment. This is a bekelder moment. So I want to just nail this home reading over Mike Adams work. All I have to say is that this is the definition of pathetic, sloppy, immature-ish research. Because someone who takes hours and hours getting to the bottom of these stories that Alex and his ilk spin, I'm personally offended by how lazy and childish this article that

Mike Adams put out is. There's literally no substance other than outright lies and irresponsible conjecture that he could disprove with 10 minutes of work. Fuck him and fuck Alex Jones. Cause we know why they're doing it. Oh yeah. It's very clear. Anyway.

Oh, you know what, Dan? Because you got to just pull out all the stops to confirm a monster to the Supreme Court and this destroy that Alex actually later in the episode puts all his cards on the table accidentally when a caller calls in and makes it very abundantly clear that the only reason that you fight hard for, uh, for Kavanaugh is because he supports the Trump agenda. Yeah. And Alex literally says Kavanaugh has told Trump that he's going to push his agenda, which if that's true, that's disqualifying.

That's pretty much the only thing that that's, that's disqualifying. I would hate that if a judge said that to Obama, like I would hate that if a judge said that to the greatest liberal possible candidate, you know, like if a dream liberal president was in. Yeah. And they, and they had a, I'm not sure about that. No, come on. After the first couple of purges, it would be great.

Oh no, no, no, no. You give it a couple of years. You get rid of it from the past. We get rid of a lot of folk. Don't worry about it. It'll be fine. You need to read more. No, no, no.

Come on. Come on. The thing is like, yeah, it's like an ideal, uh, president in there. If they had some sort of backdoor meeting or backroom meeting with a potential Supreme Court candidate and they said, I'm going to push your agenda through, I would say that's absolutely disqualifying even though I agree with the agenda. Yeah. That is not, that is not how the courts should work.

But that's the, that's the point of what we're living through right now is that it's becoming right absolute like there's no, you could war and one side doesn't recognize it's war. Yeah. No, exactly. Or one side. No, you absolutely fucking nailed it. One side is complacent, uh, to some extent and, uh, I'm not, I'm not advocating for treating

it like war outside of recognizing that the other side sees it that way. Yeah. I don't think that, I don't think that right thinking normal people should see it as, as war. But I think everyone should prepare themselves to like actually fucking protest. You know, like, I mean, I don't, I don't mean that in any like, Hey, let's go set fire to a building. Right.

Nothing like that. As long as there isn't anybody in there. No, I'm saying, Wait, what? I'm saying that, you know, we, we might end up seeing 1968 conventions again. You know, yeah, we might be in that position where we all on the left need to get ready to get hit. What do you mean?

Might. Right. We're there. Yep. That's it. We need to get real with it. Cause the other side is fucking real. They've been real for fucking 10 years now.

Right. They saw a black man get elected president and they decided that that was the day that they declared war. Yeah. And we were all like, well, a black man has declared president. So maybe things are going to be better now. And they've just been fucking fighting a war that we thought was, we thought was solved. I think that we, maybe I can't speak for everybody, but I think that a lot of people

on the left probably thought like, well, this will be like a version therapy. You know, like you're scared of spiders, go in a room with spiders, you know, like my brother keeps bees. He has a house. Yeah. I'm terrified of bees as does friend of the show, Matt Drafki, but going to the bee house and standing next to it in the bees, not fucking with me, recognizing that generally bees have business.

They're doing something. You know, the idea of them flying all around me and not touching me like I'm not fucking with them. They're not fucking with me. They're just a form of a version therapy. And we're kind of hoping that the idea of like a black man being in office is very scary to you. Right.

But deal with it. See all that stuff that you thought was going to happen. It didn't happen. Now we're fine. Right. And instead they were just like, no, it did happen. So let's do it. That didn't work because propaganda and information warfare of the like that Alex puts out into

the world is too, it's too effective and it doesn't respond to reality. It responds to what is the message? What is the, what is the targeted attack? So I'm going to skip this next clip because we've already talked about all these studies and it's fucking bullshit. We don't need to talk about it more. Yeah. But suffice it to say in this clip that I'm going to skip, Alex says that she advocates

torture methods in one of these studies. Oh, oh, does she? Yeah. That's so unusual. But the specific language that he uses allows me to trace down where in the study he's talking about. And actually it's a paragraph about using flotation tanks as a therapeutic method. Great.

So good work guys. Well, because they're like, like flotation tanks do, like they're talking about it in the context of like, it could create an emotional response. It could create anxiety. Right. It's an isolation tank as well as a flotation. It's not like, yeah. No, no, no.

I get that. So Mike Adams has warped that and Alex is warping it to, to, to report it. There's a big difference between saying, Hey, get alone in this tank by yourself and deal with your own thoughts. And Hey, we're going to pour water in your throat to torture you. Or there's even a difference between like being forced to be in an isolation tank and choosing to. Yeah.

It's called the United States justice system. Yep. So here we go. Let's get back into it. Alex has claims to reiterate. Folks, I can hardly even read this. It's so stunning. This is just some of the papers.

This is some of what we're dealing with. And of course, she is, she is literally a mind control doctor, a giant CIA university standard program for false memories now trying to destroy the Supreme Court nominee. My God, this is beyond two plus two equals four. I think he meant to say two plus two equals five because that's a sort of normal thing. But he just kind of fucked it up there. No, it's beyond two plus two equals four, which means it's two plus two equals five, Dan.

Two plus two equals six. What? How dare you? What is this? What is this non Euclidean geometry? Get the fuck out of here. On a recent episode, Alex called himself the Ministry of Truth, which is the people who put out two plus two equals five in 1984.

So not sure what I think about anything anymore. So Jordan, I'll tell you what I think about the truth. Don't matter. So I told you earlier that a lawyer to the Nazi stars and Alex Jones, Mark Rondazzo shows up on the show a little bit later. That's his name. Mark Rondazzo. He shows up and we have gotten to that point and let's see why he's on the show.

You know, a real liberal, a good liberal is Mark Rondazzo, probably the top first amendment lawyer in the country. He certainly has the most courage and I've got him on about a brief statement here. And then we'll get into some other issues while we have him. We have filed a action in defense of our rights in California in San Francisco dealing with PayPal because they tell us that the last day we can use him is Thursday. And so we filed an injunction in force, files, emergency injunction against PayPal and federal court.

So if anyone out there doesn't know about this, Alex Jones has been kicked off PayPal as a processor for his, his wares that he sells online and would have you. Interestingly, he's been kicked off. Everything else didn't sue anybody else. He chose this is the one I'm going to fucking fight about because it's the one that really cuts into my fucking bottom line because it has something to do with money. So I've read his entire brief because they, they posted that online. They posted the complaint that they filed.

Yeah. And largely would stop it. Stop. Don't take me on PayPal. Stop. Come on. No, not far off. Okay. The that seems to boil down to two arguments.

One of them is about the idea that his civil rights are being violated. Doesn't sound right because they are targeting him because of his political beliefs. Now, in terms of the protected classes, political beliefs is not one of them. Oh, yeah, but just because it's not listed as one of the classes in the like, in the actual text doesn't necessarily mean that it could not be just deemed one later on. Yeah, does include like sexual sexual orientation isn't listed in it, but

it's interpreted as being included. Right, of course. So the idea on that basis is like, Hey, you can make an argument. I don't think that's what PayPal or any of these people are doing. I don't think it's about your politics. I think it's about how you keep doing things like you're doing on this episode. Yeah. If his argument was like, Oh, PayPal is only attacking me because I support Brett

Kavanaugh, right? You're like, All right. Well, no, that's probably not okay. Or like you could make probably, probably is in huge scare quotes. If you wanted to make the argument of something like I got kicked off because I believe in trickle down economics. I believe in small government. I believe in the right to own guns.

Right. I think that you like if that did happen, I don't think it would ever would. But if that did happen, I think you could use that unruh human rights civil rights act in order to make that argument. Right. The reason that people are kicking Alex off is because he keeps being a fucking dick that ruins people's lives through lies. Yeah.

And they don't need to prove a criminal act in order to kick him off their platform. Right. Like it's, it's not like they're a bank or anything like that. They're just a financial transaction entity. So like they can do that all they want. I don't, I think he's going to have a problem with that because it's not his political beliefs that are getting him kicked off. It's his actions.

So his second argument that he's trying to make in this brief is that info wars.com is the news site info wars store.com is not political. And that is the only site that uses PayPal. So PayPal is punishing him by cutting off info wars store.com for off platform content. All right. All right. This is an interesting argument. That is an interesting.

I think anyone outside of a courtroom would say, go fuck yourself. Yeah, of course. But inside a courtroom, I don't know how that works. No, exactly. No, no, because I can, I can absolutely understand like where that argument is coming from. Right. They're both owned by free speech systems incorporated.

So it doesn't, like it's tough to see a disconnect between the two as being operated as separate entities. Right. But sure, he doesn't post harassing content on info wars store.com. Right. So I don't know. And the, they make the argument in the brief that like all of the everything that has to do with the sales is just linked from info wars.com.

None of it is hosted on there. So all of the PayPal stuff is all on info wars store.com. That's a less compelling argument. I think he's going to lose that too, but it's more interesting at least. It's at least like, ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, see, that's, that's interesting. Like that's sneaky. That's a, yeah, that's a classic loophole where you're like, oh, you got me. We didn't write that into the law first because when we wrote the law, we

didn't realize that you were full of bullshit like this. Yeah. Cause if we had written those laws, we were like, Oh, and also if you have a URL that's similar, like, yeah, yeah. I'd also like to be deposed in this case. Like I would like them to subpoena me because I would like to give testimony about the fortified supply.com that Alex was running that illegal sales website, I wonder if they're allowed to use PayPal.

Um, I think they did. Yeah. I think they did. Oh, absolutely. Oh, but then after we started reporting on it, he changed it to infowars survival. Oh, isn't that surprising? Weird, weird how that changed so quick. Yeah.

So, um, that's why Mark Rondazzo is on, uh, to talk about how they're suing PayPal. It's not going to work, although I'm interested in it more than a lot of his other lawsuits and I'm not interested all that much because like I see it as a desperation act because it's all he can do. Like he knows he's probably going to lose it. Yeah. But because he's putting this like, uh, legal action into place, he's allowed to use PayPal for like two weeks longer because there's like an injunction.

Right. It creates this legal action until we see the results of this court case. Right. We cannot kick you off. There's a chance that that's the game he's playing just on his own and maybe that'll buy him enough time to set up something else. Whether or not like Adam set up his own PayPal exactly. Yeah.

Like he's done with real dot video. Hey, hold on. That's a completely different thing. Real dot money. Ah, it's different. Sure. Or maybe go back and, uh, fucking, I don't know, get back into gold. So I don't know, man.

Now this is where things go really funny. Mark Rondazzo sucks. He does suck, but he doesn't suck that much. No, here's my theory. Mark Rondazzo is actually great and he's figured out the game. No. And he has taken these, like he has taken these, uh, uh, fucking, uh, uh, what are the remoras?

What are the ones that the little fish that suckle on the shark and keep it clean? Damn it. This is a way to eaters. No, God damn it. No, what you're talking about. Yeah, sort of symbiotic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's figured out that those guys are never going to get the lawyers that the sharks

actually have. So he's like, oh, I'll fucking lawyer up on these dudes. No big deal. Like why he, if he is filing this lawsuit, the best thing that he could do to say to Alex Jones was, don't make me file this lawsuit. We're going to lose. But he does not make any money if he says, don't file this lawsuit. You've already expressed it on this very episode, the billable hours, billable hours,

billable hours, billable hours, billable hours. God, he's smart. Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. This is, and this is a great place to go because he's fucking desperate. But if he was super craven and just some sort of a like whore for the billable hours and a whore for all this stuff, he probably kissed Alex's ass a little more than he does. This clip where Alex is going to compare himself to someone it is very unfair for him to compare himself to and Martin Luther King Jr.

Close. Mark has a great response. This whole move by whole industries to bar people from the marketplace, they're really smacks of, you know, not letting black folks eat at the lunch counters. Oh my God, I wouldn't go that far. Love it. Boom. I also would not go that far.

But that's the place of superiority you get to live in when you're that guy. Oh yeah. I love it. I love it. You like to, you get to shit on these people. You get to charge him all this money. You know you're going to lose. He's in a great spot.

And publicly, I will not agree with that statement. Exactly. Privately, I might be like, you bet. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. If we were in our office, I'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. It's exactly like black people.

Anyways, so the check clears. You see this paper? You see this paper? So like it's got a lot of numbers on it. I'm not going to lie to you. There are a few zeros on this that you did not maybe expect that we're going to be. So anyways, we're going to win this case, buddy. We're going to do it.

01:43:50,100 --> 01:43:50,660 All right. All right. Sign it. Sign it. We're going to win it. Sign it. Sign it.

That comparison to black people not being allowed to eat places is bad. This next comparison might be worse. Listen, we have to fight back. Everybody knows that if you get a big mega system and the big banks link up, and they start denying people the right to commerce because of who they claim you are. When you haven't committed a crime or did anything wrong or engage in fraud, you have true persecution. It's Hitler's dream.

First thing Hitler did was start curtailing how Jews and others can do business. Hitler, who you call they complete badass. And then the rest is history. And so this is happening. I'm all a free market, fact-recent, your business, whatever. Are you? But when they all work in unison and say, we're going to destroy you at Syria. So be your name.

Oh, so you're for net neutrality then, right? You also have it. He hasn't proved that they were working in unison. They absolutely are. Like people in those companies have said we were not working together. No, but they probably Colin Kaepernick has proved that they are working together. The NFL teams. Yeah.

But they're not like, uh, I'm sure that nobody within those companies would be like, look, we're cowards and we were just waiting for someone else to do. And then we all just jumped on board, which is obviously what happened. But the truth is no one was acting in coordination or anything like that. Nobody was like, all right, are we all going to get rid of him? But ha, no. But that's how Alex needs to contextualize the world around him. Anything against him is part of some giant fraud, some giant scam.

And it's cowardly. And that allows himself to compare himself to the fucking Jews in the Holocaust. That's just so which, by the way, didn't happen, according to Alex. So just, it did, but it didn't happen the way you wanted it to, right? Right. Oh, yeah. I, I imagine Alex, like this whole situation brings me to this like, uh, mental picture of, uh, like in the 1920s, all of these rich investment bankers sitting around the ticker

tapes showing the stock prices and all that shit. And then that one of them just sees like, Oh my God, PayPal kicked him off. And then the rest of them were like, again, they get on their rotary phones and they're like, kick him off too. Kick him off too. Like you just see paper flying. Yeah, exactly. You guys are a bunch of fucking cowards.

Fuck off. It's all just fantasies about the place in life and how the world works. It's stupid. Yeah. Um, so in this next clip, see, I, like I said, I think that Mark Rondazzo sucks, but also he doesn't suck totally. Yeah. He's clearly pushing back at least publicly on Alex's dumb bullshit.

And he's also not all that into Kavanaugh, which is nice to express on Alex's show. That's fascinating. Yeah. Um, you know, I've been before judges who are somewhat tyrannical and not really open to listening to both sides of things. And the way that he performed there on the stand made it, uh, that this is not somebody I'd like to see on the court. I think we can do better.

But you know, it's, it's not to do the accusations. It's really to deal with how he's dealt with them. And I think if we've got nine people in that court and somebody's put on there for life, I don't want somebody who seems like he's going to turn into a, you know, caged badger when he's questioned. How dare you be reasonable? Well, listen to Alex's response. Long pause.

But if you're innocent of these outrageous charges of normal person, we get very, very angry. But, uh, I'm not looking for normal people in the Supreme Court. Oh, shit. Supreme Court. And, uh, I was not terribly impressed with that. So that's, Oh my God. I intentionally didn't play the part where he was like, I think they're both lying.

Like, uh, he's like, oh, yeah. 01:47:49,860 --> 01:47:50,740 Our both. Sure. Fine. Five of them. I didn't play that part because I thought that would prejudice you against experiencing that. That was a great moment.

But that clue, I mean, yeah, if you take, if you take the, all the arguments out of it and just be like, he seemed like a fucking dick. Yeah. But I think a normal person would get angry about that. Yeah. But there are nine people who do this job in all of America and in all of the world for life, forever. Yeah.

So maybe we shouldn't find a normal guy. How about that? Alex is super, super defensive about it. And after this, he asks, uh, Mark is like, all right, hey, you got to come back after the break and what you need to do is what I want you to do is on the spot, come up with your defense. If you're innocent and they accuse you of that, they never get back to that. No, of course not.

Because the off air, there was a moment where it was like, I'm not going to. Hey, hey, Alex. Alex. Uh, no. Goodbye. Yeah. Also. Yeah.

Oh, me. Billowblowers. Billowblowers. I almost, I almost halfway expect him to have charged Alex. Like, yeah, for real. It's written into the bottom line. I'll tell you, it's written into the bottom line. I don't know if he charged them specifically for these hours.

I do know, however, that if he's going on Alex's show, that's because there was a line item somewhere in the invoice that was like for bullshit that you need me to do. Well, it's interesting because Mark's been on the show before and we've even covered an episode that he was on before when he was just his lawyer in other circumstances. But like, which is something I hope never to hear myself say. Oh, now I remember this guy because he was in my lawyer from other circumstances. This instance is far more like than other times. Him being, he seems very unhappy to be there.

He seems like he's there under duress a little bit. But in this, in this next clip, Alex lays out the shittiest list of accusations against Dr. Ford and then makes a very unfair comparison. Now we've got her working for Big Pharma. Are you 486? That's a reason she doesn't like Cabinon obviously. Are you 486 or are you against 86? I see that as a motive and you've got her as a big Hillary supporter.

But what about her involved in mind control style programs of false memories, new memories, funded by DARPA and co-authoring major studies at Stanford? That's coming up after Mark Rondaza leaves us. That, this is just insane. You've got her whole family in the CIA basically. And then you've got this Creme d'Ala Creme project of DARPA. And then you've got the Unabomber and you've got the Aurora shooter. And they're all in these same programs.

Earlier I showed mainstream news, psychology today, LA Times, all of it. He showed that he showed mainstream news about like Ted Kaczynski being in those like LSD trials and the MK ultra stuff from like the 60s and stuff like that. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. He also showed articles where James Holmes said, I'm being mind controlled, which is something that a lot of mass shooters end up saying. Something that a lot of people do to avoid taking responsibility for their actions. Hey, anyways, we should murder Andrews Brabac.

Anyways, continue boy. Yeah. I don't even want to talk about it. Yeah. He came back into my life recently. I told, I mentioned earlier on the show, I was doing some looking into red ice radio. Oh, no. Turns out they're big fans. No.

And that really bummed me out. Oh my God. Anyway. So this list of accusations is really fucking flimsy based on everything that we've talked about already and based on how all this is bullshit. And then he gets to the end there and he's talking about like Ted Kaczynski and James Holmes, they're involved in these MK ultra programs. And the only thing that he's trying to imply there is that the people who are the

subjects of the studies that Dr. Ford is involved in are going to be the next crop. Exactly. She's creating unabombers. When the study that she's doing is this innocuous yoga meditation study about curing depression that had ambivalent results. Dan, have you ever, have you never read Marvel? That's how we got the red skull yoga yoga. Yoga gave us the red skull, Dan.

I'll tell you that right now. Super soldier yoga. Sure. Yep. So in this next clip, my man. Don't waggle your eyebrows. Don't give me an eyebrow waggle again. I know you like it.

So in this next clip, Alex, he's talking about the idea that like, so Kavanaugh withdraws. And then of course the next choice Trump would have is Judge Amy Barrett. That's sort of his presumption is she would be the person that gets put in his place. Sure. So he lays out, this is a Mike down clip. Okay. Thanks for giving me enough time.

No problem. He lays out what would happen in that circumstance. And then at the end of this, Alex says something while Mark is talking that is so fucking funny. We let them get away with this. They'll do it again and again. But I agree. They're not going to buy if they put, if he puts Barrett up that she raped women. I mean, because they're going to have women come out.

They're going to all be MK ultra professors probably too. And they'll say she's wearing a cat woman outfit. I saw her slit children's throats, drink the blood and people I don't think will buy it if they do that. What do you think? Look, I think that whoever they put, I mean, I think there's enough blame to spread around to everybody. So, so is that a plus or a negative here?

It's so dead. It's not played as a joke. I don't fucking know what he's doing. The instincts are so weird. His, his fucking free speech lawyer is trying to respond to his stupid idea about what could happen if Barrett is put in. That's one of the weirdest deliveries I've ever heard. If the monstrous things happen in real life, but fuck if somebody's saying under their breath

while a lawyer is talking, Barrett, right? Me is not funny. Also, God damn it. The implication that if Barrett is presented as a Supreme Court candidate, then the Democrats are going to say that she's slit a kid's throat and drank her blood. I would say that the only person who makes that accusation on the reg is named Alex fucking Jones. He's the person who accused people of drinking children's blood.

Yeah. You know, it's worse. Oh, you know, it's amazing. You know, it's from the 1300s. What's a fucking amazing is that 1100s. Um, no, I bet if she was nominated to the court, she would have been approved by like 56 members of the fucking Senate because the Democratic Party is fucking garbage. Somehow they managed to pick the only candidate who would not immediately get confirmed because

they're so fucking stupid. And then they have to double down because that it fends their masculinity. A bullshit. I fucking, I, uh, I would, Amy Barrett would be worse. Like Amy Barrett would be fucking a monster. Sure. But they still have to fucking allow the guy because how dare you say that men could possibly do shit like that.

Fuck you. Well, unfortunately, this is something that I believe the right would be like, I don't think that it's, uh, sort of like, uh, what is that when, uh, when a cop tricks you entrap and trap. I don't think it's entrapment that they've ended up defending these positions the way they have. Right. But I don't think it was their first choice.

I think that the reason they got backed into this is that Trump chose the guy who would say the idea of the unitary executive. Exactly. The idea that he can't be called to subpoena. He can't be charged with things. Like they could just say like, you know what? Fuck you, Kavanaugh. Go back to being whatever bullshit you are.

Hope you don't get impeached. Exactly. The best move for them right now, like, not, I guess for them in the future. The only strategic move is washing your hands and trying someone else. Exactly. And, and trying somebody isn't going to play out and trying somebody like Barrett. Yeah. But what they are doing is exactly what is happening to what they're all watching happen

to Collins and Murkowski right now where they're like, well, what if they don't vote for Kavanaugh? Because they're women. Not because any other possible reasons, but because they're women. So we can't trust women to always do the things that we want them to do. Even as they watch Collins and Murkowski be the dumbest fucking senators in history. Yeah. I don't know what to say about that. They're all dumb.

No, no, I know. Like on a strategic as well as tactical level. And somehow they're still going to fucking win. I hate it. I hate this world. I'm not critiquing your analysis. I just don't really, I don't really know what to say about it. You know, so we, we're done, I guess, for the minute now with the, the sort of Kavanaugh

defense weird shit, weird shit. Yeah. Super weird shit. She can control minds though. I think that's been proven. She's a mind controller. No, they've presented enough evidence where I can safely say that she controls the minds of anyone who comes within 60 feet of her.

Yeah. So, but we're done with that as a narrative for now. And Alex gets into a little bit of a different narrative that, man, I just fucking, I hate this. America is this super open, inclusive country. And then now you've got the LGBTP. I had pedophilia again, Deb. It was more and more, that's, that's part of it. Six year old pupils write gay love letters to learn to accept diversity.

We're going to play the video of that coming up. So you put your children in school and they tell six year olds, right, little boys, write love letters to boys, girls, right to girls. This is people sexualizing your children. No, it's not. This is a story out of the BBC. It was about a classroom that they were discussing a fairy tale. Was it in America?

No, it was in Britain, it was in the UK. So, so they're discussing a fairytale where in there's a prince who's in love with a dude and the two of them get, they want to get together. So the teacher of. Give them a Netflix show. The teacher of the class made an assignment where the kids write love letter from one party to the other.

It's not if you're a girl, right to a girl. If you're a boy, right to a boy. It's a write a love letter to somebody else. Within the context of this story. From the perspective of another character in the story. Yeah. Almost an empathy exercise. And the teacher gave an interview and she's talking about the idea that like if you grow up

and when you grow up, what you'll find is diversity around you. You're going to end up running into people of different identities or different orientations. And if we make people comfortable with that as children, they won't be weirded out by it later in life. It'll be something that they'll be able to empathize with going forward. I see nothing wrong with this because it's not like. The teacher is like a write a letter about how you want to suck his dick. Yeah, don't it's not that at all.

And if you really want to take issue with this, you have to take issue with all fairy tales. You have to take issue with heterosexual stories being impart like. They're sexualizing children. Right. How old was Cinderella Dan? Oh my God. She was 14.

Snow White was asleep. She was dead. Right. Wait, was she? Yeah. No, she's fine. And a coma. There's Terry Shive owing it.

I can't allow her to leave. So this this narrative to me is umpus bumpus. But at the same time you hear Alex again now every time he says LGBT, he makes a point of bringing in the P. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm like you're making it worse. I'm amazed that you're making your argument so much flimsier. I'm amazed that you can be absolutely wrong in one sentence in all directions at the same time.

Yeah. Like, hey, America's just an amazing inclusive country. Sometimes. But then you have these LGBTQ pedophiles in here and you're like, whoa, wait. No, no, no. The first thing you said was invalidated by the second thing you said, which makes me think that the first thing you said wasn't even true in the first place. And the correct kids, buddy.

The correct answer is America is not an inclusive place. And it just pretends to fucking be. And the people who are trying to make it an inclusive place are the ones who are being murdered by your fucking dumb bullshit. So fuck you. Yeah, it's pretty bad. How dare you? How dare he be?

Like, I don't I don't want him kicked off of Facebook and PayPal and all of that shit for all of the horrors that he's done. I want him kicked off for that shit. Sure. For being able to say America's an inclusive place, but we shouldn't have everybody that would make it an inclusive place. I get that mentality. You're ruining a language.

I get that mentality, but this still, to me, falls under free speech. Like, I don't think you should kick somebody off for this. I'm all for free speech. I just want it to make sense. Oh, I would love it. If your free speech doesn't make sense, then fuck off. I would love for free speech to make sense, but unfortunately it doesn't. And in instances like this, I wouldn't advocate Alex being kicked off anything

for saying things like LGBT equals P. No, I would say send him to a reeducation camp. And this is why I should be president. Oh, fucking now you've figured a thought in my brain. Oh, is this a bad thing? No, it's fine. The reeducation camp thing brought up in my memory. I don't know why it's a one to one trigger, but I thought of Larry Nichols.

Of course. Of course. In 2015, you would talk about these reeducation camps coming for us. Cause could you know what happened? Christine Ford planted in that memory to put it one to one. So anytime somebody says reeducation camp to you, you think call Larry Nichols in fairness. I often think of Larry Nichols.

He haunts me. Yeah, but tell me about it. His whole, his whole thing was, uh, the, like the FEMA provisional government. Obama is going to use it to take over and everybody's going to go into camps, which is a big part of Alex's worldview. So I thought it was very weird today. We're recording this on the third recording it on Wednesday, because you are, uh, you have a show on Thursday.

So it didn't record on Thursday. Today, all of us got a text from the president. I didn't. You didn't? No. Lucky you. Hey, that's nice. Everybody, almost everybody got a text from this test of the FEMA emergency

alert system run by the president. Yeah, I assume that that's what we're going to talk about. Alex hates FEMA. He has this super terrible fear of these FEMA camps, which we're hearing in 2009, up to the present. He hates FEMA. They're the worst. It's all about the COG, the continuity of government.

They're trying to create these emergencies in order to put people in fucking camps. Of course. And then kill them off. Got to do it. I'm not going to a camp. You're not going to rape my family in a camp. Hell no. You're going to kill me first.

I would be angry too. He had an article on info wars.com today about this text message to everybody in America that is being put out by FEMA at the president's like back and call. Right. And how it's a great idea. It's not only that it's a great idea. He's mocking the idea that anyone would be against it. The article on info wars legitimately was no look at all these dumb dumb afraid of

Trump's most innocuous move of all. You know what? I don't want America to collapse because I live here. But at this point, I'm all for it. I legitimately had the awful this in this existence is miserable. I had the article up on info wars.com on my screen. I was going to keep it up so I could look at it now. Yeah.

But my browser said malware detected. Yeah, good call. Infowars.com apparently is no longer a super safe website. Smart. I closed that window. But the entire thing is just this long making fun of people who are libtards, I guess, who are shocked by and against the president using FEMA in order to text all of them at the same time.

Then at the end of it. No, don't do this. Don't give me a stinger. Sales pitch. Don't do it. Alex is like, but if you want info wars news on your phone. No, son of a bet. It's amazing.

You fucking asshole. In an article, he doesn't add pivot. It's crazy. It's crazy to see in print. So speaking of ad pivots. Oh, man. And this next clip, Alex is talking about how he doesn't want to sue people. But he's got to.

He's got to. And see, these people don't want you looking at it. They don't want you investigating it. They don't want you talking about it. And they don't want this broadcast up here getting into it. And that's why they're trying to shut us down. I'll tell you something right now. You think I want to sue the pet pay the frog creator when he sued me?

Yes. I had to sue him. Even though he tried to settle for nothing. Because they just want to tell me what images I can use when it's very used. And he said it was very use. You think I want to sue PayPal? I got to stand up against this market to be system, but I'm doing it. And that's why.

I need you to find an operation. Boom. Yep. Long. Hold on. Long. Hold on. Hold on.

Hold on. Hold on. You do not get to do an ad pivot after you say, you think I want to sue this guy? He wanted to settle for nothing. He did. He did say that. Yeah.

That is weird. He literally said. That is weird. He literally said, do you think I want to sue this guy who just wants me to say, whoops. Yep. I don't want to do that.

We need your money to fund this lawsuit for no reason with no stakes. Zero stakes involved. The only stakes involved are this guy created a thing and I misused it. I wonder if he misspoke. Like I do wonder that because you're right. Based on his actual language, that is what he's saying. Yeah. I wonder if he misspoke and said,

I wanted to settle for nothing. No, I think he wanted to settle for nothing. Matt Fury. Yeah. I bet he would just take an apology or just don't do it anymore. Yep. Something like that. I bet he would.

From everything I've read about him, he seems like a completely sensible guy. Because that lawsuit came way before the others. Well, the first one was against Cernovich. Right. Because Cernovich used Pepe on the cover of his book. 02:07:38,740 --> 02:07:39,220 Right.

Well, that was that's absolutely much more egregious. Yeah. Whereas Alex didn't use it in any like, I mean, I mean, the other lawsuits against Alex. Like they're the hook family. Yeah. Yeah. That was, that was way earlier than those, right?

It was. Yeah. It did. That was just like a way earlier, but it was a little earlier. It was a little bit earlier. And it was, it was early to the point where Alex didn't know he was about to get hit with like eight other lawsuits. Right.

So he would have been like, if he'd known that there were going to be eight other lawsuits, he would have been like, yeah, I'll settle for free. Fuck off. That's great. Well, it was, it was. I'll say it. Yeah.

Oops. Sorry for using Pepe the Frog. Anyways, it's just a fucking frog character moving on. It was earlier than these other lawsuits, but it was later than like Aliphontus and Hamdi Ulacaya, which were in the middle of last year. Yeah. So like it, it's sort of like, you know what the fucking

entire modern history of Alex Jones is just jumping from lawsuits and then just making apologies and like he's the dukes of hazard of not having to pay like settlements. Settlements. Yeah. It's crazy. He jumps the general Lee over libel lawsuits. Well, he gets by on the kindness of strangers.

I don't know what musical that's from. But like he just, like he survives only at the whim of people who don't want to crush him. Yeah. Like Hamdi Ulacaya could have owned Info Wars, probably. God damn it, Hamdi. Now you're, we loved you and now you're by vicariously you're our enemy. I still think, I find him to be, look,

I still think that voice even is an admirable choice. I understand that. Because there's no reason to be vindictive about it based on the, because Alex did, he did make a video apology about it. Yeah. I don't know. Here's my, here's my view on that. And this is something that I didn't really learn until a couple of nights ago

when my girlfriend was watching. You're about doing some ninja moves. Like hand gestures right now. Was watching, she was watching the latest season of The Walking Dead. And at the end of it, what's this fuck doesn't kill the other fucking guy? Don't fucking know. After there's been a whole fucking fight. Like four episodes of that show.

No, but like 50 people have died, but then it's just like the one guy and the other guy. And it's like, ah, and I'm going to kill you. And then he doesn't kill him. And he's like, you're going to be an example. And the whole time I'm sitting there like, oh, you should have just fucking killed that guy. And then you'd have been fine.

Well, yeah, in zombie situations for sure. And what is Alex Jones, but a zombie situation? You just got it. Look, look, I get it. I'm all for it. We got to build a better world. But don't build a better world with this guy. We got other guys to be like, oh, look,

this is a guy who we show mercy on. But some guys, you just got to fucking get him rid of them. I sincerely believe that we live in a society that is room for Alex Jones. I don't think that we live in such a terrible place. But that's what the Walking Dead people thought about that one fucking guy. And now they're all fucked.

Well, look, dude, dude, that's my analysis of The Walking Dead. That's what they thought about that one fucking guy. And now look where they are. And the reason I had to respond to that with look, dude, is because I have not watched any of that. I don't know who you're talking about. I haven't watched it. I haven't watched it either.

I saw one episode. I saw the first season and I was like, nah. Not interested. I'm sure it's great, actually. I thought it was actually good, but I just didn't care. No, her thoughts were as she was, I hadn't watched any of the seasons. I watched the last episode.

So unimportant. I know, I know. But her point of view was like, oh, yeah. No, this was really good. At the last six seasons have been really boring though. So I think that I think that, yeah. I think that kind of clears it up. That's how I felt about the real world road rules challenge.

Yeah. And I stopped watching any of them. But the reason that I think that society came contain something like an Alex Jones force, it's just that it requires everyone else to be aware. You know, like an aware and healthy society can contain Alex Jones because people read stuff and they're like, Hey, look at that asshole.

Right. But in a society that's already kind of rotting, or there's, there's a cancer within that society already. Yeah. Their defenses aren't going to be there to fight back or to mitigate the damage that in Alex Jones can do. So right now we're living in a cancerous, awful society and Alex Jones is exploiting so much of that

because he's on the cancer side. Yeah. And that's not saying that Trump is the cancer. He's, he's a bigger picture. He's representative. He's, he's the avatar of the cancer. He's carcinogenic for sure. There's a bigger picture to it.

Yeah. In a, in a proper everything going well, our society could happily flourish with Alex Jones, doing his crazy fun bullshit. And we could all laugh at it and have fun. Yeah. But unfortunately we live in time where it's like, Oh no, we don't have the immune system to fight back against this.

Nope. And it sucks. But just because we don't have the immune system to fight back against it, doesn't mean that he's any different. You know what I'm saying? Like, right, right. That doesn't change the rules and that now that we're more susceptible to it and the damage is worse because of what he's doing.

That doesn't mean he shouldn't be able to do what he's doing. Right. No, I see what you're saying. Now, some of the things he's doing are legally actionable. Counterargument. We could handle somebody like Alex Jones. That's all I've been saying. Exactly.

Not Alex Jones, literally. Exactly. That's my point. So if we can handle somebody like Alex Jones, but you have to take away that maybe not the extent to which Alex Jones is. Maybe we take the Alex Jones to which the extent Alex Jones is and put his fucking head on a pike. And then the other Alex Jones is that we can deal with.

Hey, we don't got to worry about him so much because they can see that guy with his head on a fucking pike. That's all I'm saying. Cut off his balls. I want to cut off his balls so bad. No, boy. Oh, so bad. So I would make a whole weekend out of it.

We would have a thing. There would be a bot mitzvah. It'd be fantastic. Novelty menu. Oh, God, so good. Special cocktail. It would be a destination wedding. Right.

So I don't know. I don't know how I feel about that. But you wouldn't enjoy our nuptials. In this, what, you and Alex's balls getting married? I would not enjoy that. I think you can do better. OK, fair enough. So in this next clip, Jordan, Alex,

he likes to talk all the time about these libtard cucks. They're all triggered. Oh, with their triggers. They're all triggered by things. Oh, we're all getting so angry whenever somebody accuses a sexual assault that we definitely didn't commit. We all get so angry all the time. And we definitely just freak out all the time

in front of a public hearing. That's crazy for all of us libtard cucks, right? That sounds like you're describing Kavanaugh as being triggered in that circumstance. Oh, is that what I'm doing? That's interesting because that's not what this is about. Oh, it's not. This is about Alex being triggered

by having to watch that, which I would argue. Do they not even know what? Oh, my God. Which I would argue makes you a little soy boy snowflake. Listen, that wasn't an act last week when I blew up on air about watching Kavanaugh being accused. I can't watch these hearings now. And I'm not feeling sorry for myself.

I've been falsely accused so much that at a certain point, I can't watch these people anymore because I want to get very aggressive. So you've been truly accused so much. And we know they're liars, and I'm sick of everyone bending over backwards. If you're a Democrat and you say something, I don't believe the skies blue if you said it was

because you're a pack of trash. You're a known group of liars like the devil. Ooh, triggered, baby. I don't know what to do with that. There's nothing to do with that. There's nothing to do with that. No, no, no. I mean, just enjoy it.

Let it wash over you and scoff at it. That's what you do with it. I mean, I just don't know how to deal with that in any sense other than for him to say, if you're a Democrat and you say anything, I can't believe you. Then for me, the only reaction is, well, if that's what you think,

then if you say anything, I can't believe you, right? It's like a two-way street. Yeah, there's no way for us to communicate if you're immediate position first is nothing you say is meaningful and everything you say is a lot. What do I say to that? You know? Nothing.

Right? Like you just, you just goodbye. Right. He's cut off any possibility for like communication, basically. Okay. Anything you say is bullshit. Right.

Okay. Well, then goodbye. Bid you a do. Fuck off. Have fun over there. I've been falsely accused by so many women. It's crazy how many women, a long laundry list of women who have falsely,

falsely accused me of so many women, like roughly four to 500 women have falsely, definitely not any of them being correct. 100% all of them being false. So Jordan, I think that Alex has made a lot of like legitimately, I'm making a chopping motion here. You are. They're legitimately actionable claims in this episode

against Dr. Blasey Ford. I agree. He has said like not vague things, but actual statements. She's running a mind control CIA DARPA funded operation. Along with her family. Well, the family may or may not be involved, but yeah, absolutely.

So like this is not okay. It's not fine. So it makes it so fucking pathetic that he says this towards the end of the episode. You know, I don't want to go on air and say that Christine Blasey Ford is a CIA mind control operative. You did. But she works at a DARPA program and publishes articles on

brainwashing, on planning false memories, on creating classical Manchurian candidates. It's not just like she's in some program that's connected to that. I don't want to see this thing that I said. The family CIA and the brother-in-law and the grandpa and the daddy and the brother. And it's like it never ends with these people. It's all these idiots go. I bet Jones is in some intelligence agency or something.

I would be embarrassed to be in some intelligence agency at this point. My dad is. I've had family. My dad was in the military and was assigned to stuff like that. And they said the new world order, the world government's evil. It's anti-family. It's anti-God. It's anti-Christian.

Stand against it. Isn't it funny how you parodied exactly that clip earlier in the show? It's weird. Isn't it fucking weird that you were like, yeah, they were in there, but they were the good ones. They were the crazy ones. Yep. It's funny how jokes can imitate propaganda and propaganda can imitate jokes.

It's like a little disgusting on some level. It's kind of a bummer that no matter how full disclosure I do a bit about this, but it's like no matter how far you try and parody this, it doesn't go far enough. No, no. Like the hardest you go to be like, oh, look at how crazy these guys are. The next day they're like, this is exactly how crazy we are. You're like, well, fuck, what am I supposed to do?

Right. It's like people trying to make jokes about the insane clown posse. It's like, yeah, you make a joke about it. I bet they would hear that joke. We're like, I'm not fucking do that. Yeah, exactly. That sounds awesome. Yeah.

Yeah. No, it's it. Yeah. This world, like especially now, it wasn't this way years ago. It was a bit more restrained, although as dishonest as dishonest. Yes. Absolutely. I agree.

The level of self parody, the level of like absurd bullshit. Like it and the, the unwel... Like it's unrestrained by decorum. It's unrestrained by shame. Yeah. It's unrestrained by any of those like sort of things that you would think that people would keep themselves in check with. Right.

Yeah. It's impossible to make a joke of like, well, here's what they're going to do. They probably are. Yeah. You have a 50% chance. It's a, it's a crapshoot. I would say it's even higher. I would say that by the very act of you making the joke, they make it real just to spite you.

It could be, it could be some sort of a Schrodinger's propagandist. Yeah. Like it's, it's like, this is a weird, this is a weird thing for me, somebody who's not old enough to have lived through it. But like, if you watch the late night eras between Carson and then like now, and you're like, Carson could tell a joke that was like devastating. That was like, what? How could you do that?

And now Jimmy Kimmel could tell a joke that is just like, oh, that's just a, that's just reality. Sure. Like that's just, like the late night host gig is turned from parodying to just like reporting. Reporting with the soft glazing of humor. Yeah. Right. Just like gentle glaze.

Is it even that or is it more just like reporting the news, but just like with a little. The thin veneer of comedy being added on it. What's the difference between a Brian Stelter reading the news and Jimmy Carson and Johnny Carson just being like, and the next thing they want to do is remove kids from their parents. I honestly think I honestly, I'm going to give you a contrarian position that I haven't fully thought out, but I almost think that that's exactly what we need right now though, because the, the sort of state of times that we're in is so volatile and awful that if you had somebody who was making like really scathing blows, you don't need that in this climate because

you don't deserve it. What this cult? I like this with this climate. And I like where this is going. Are the milk toast people like Jimmy Fallon who will, you know, rub Trump's hair and be like, all fuck is in this school. And then James Corden having these dumb fucking segments that mean nothing. That is what late night should be.

Just yeah. He was great on Dr. Who though. James Corden had a couple of great episodes. Who cares? Fantastic. I do. Fine. Love Dr. Who.

Fine. But I mean, if you wanted to do like Johnny Whitaker is going to be, if you want to do a scathing late night row of hosts, you could do it. You could do it easily. Yeah. In this climate of like comedians, the various voices that are out there, you could do that very easily. You could set up, it would not make you any money.

Yeah. Well, no, that's why that's why there aren't those guys. That's why there aren't those guys. There are plenty of comics who could develop that scathing row, but they're not allowed anywhere near these shows. Totally. Here's what I would say. The internet has allowed everybody to just make whatever they want, right?

So you can just do a late night show if you just rent out a theater for 50 bucks and have some decent camera equipment on it. Or if you're on Facebook, watch or any of those like sort of things, you can, you can do it yourself. Is this a soft launch for our Facebook watch? But has anybody risen to the ranks of sort of like really scathing criticism that appeals to anybody like on a mass level? I don't know if they have.

There are interesting shows here and there. There are interesting people with voices, certainly, but not to the level of like, all right, we got a demagogue here. Yeah. I don't think that this time deserves that. And I also don't think it would work, because then that person would be unilaterally attacked by all the various propagandists on the right.

Right. Like Cernovich would accuse them of some sort of fucking crime they didn't commit. Alex would say they're drinking children's blood, and all of a sudden they get bogged down in a lot of bullshit that has nothing to do with the scathing comedy they're trying to produce. What you're describing is if our show was a late night show. I'm not. I'm saying that this, this culture doesn't lend itself to,

I mean, even a early David Letterman, not a late David Letterman, but early David Letterman. I hate it when there's a late David Letterman. I don't know. Early David Letterman would love that show. Late David Letterman. Not, not so much. No, I think about this.

I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but I think that like cultural entertainment largely, because I wrestle with this. Like the things that are like super popular, I think are largely just like intrinsically vapid. Like I'm not saying that as some sort of like I'm above it or anything like that. Right. You know that I've made it clear that I get sucked into these rabbit holes

of watching Irish people try things. Of course. Have you ever seen Irish people try things? It's incredible. I kind of like a couple of those personalities. That leather coat guy is really funny. But like there's, there are, there are things like that that have millions of views. And I started to look into it a little bit more.

And you have like the, like PewDiePie videos and stuff. I watched a couple of them, like I don't understand at all what's going on here. Then I realized I didn't even know this, like until maybe a couple of weeks ago, like Buzzfeed has a ridiculous YouTube presence. Really? They have videos that have 15 million views on the reg. What? Yeah.

Are we old? Did we just get old? Yeah. Or did we just get old at this moment right now? It's insane to me. Buzzfeed has millions of millions. Wow. Individual videos that have millions and millions of views.

That's crazy. Right. It's insane. And so I got sucked down a wormhole of watching these videos because I would watch one and it would be like, there's one, there's one series that they have where these two guys go and they try things at different price points. It's called worth it. So the two, the two of them go to three restaurants.

One's really cheap. One's in the middle. One's super expensive. Right. And then they decide which one is the best at its price point. Right. And then at the end of it, they have to supermarket sweep it. They have to fill their cart with the most.

The premise is on its face, a pretty interesting premise. I guess. With good editing, it's something that has a good presentational value. You get to see three different restaurants, which is what all those like food TV shows are really about. Yeah. Like diners, drive-ins and dives wasn't about Guy Fieri or anything like that. It was about these fun restaurants that you could imagine yourself in.

Right. That's what all that stuff is about. So you get to watch like, oh, that's cool. And then you also get to project yourself into their seat because who are they but 20-somethings who have a good job. Right. Being gifted this position at this restaurant because of their job. That could be you if you had that job.

Yeah. You can project yourself there a little bit and it's kind of fun. And then oftentimes it's not the most expensive place. That's the most. A lot of the times they go to all of them and then they validate that the cheapest place is actually the best. Right. So I started watching some of these videos and I didn't give a fuck about any of them,

but I liked one of the guys in it. One of the guys in it seemed to have a really good comedic sensibility. I'm like, I enjoy this. And then I accidentally started watching other BuzzFeed videos that he was in. Oh, no. Right. So I started watching all like, I ended up down this like rabbit hole of following him. By the way, it's Andrew from the Stephen and Andrew or the two guys on Worth It.

No idea. Stephen seems fine. I don't know. He's too excitable. Sure. I'm not going with him. Sure. But you just described me.

But anyways, continue. You don't have the frosted tips. I don't have. Oh, he's got frosted tips. He's an Asian dude with frosted tips. What year is it? I also don't dislike it. But look, so I started, I watched other videos and I kept finding myself watching

these like three minute videos about whatever. And I don't, I didn't enjoy them. I didn't enjoy them at all. But I kept watching them and I didn't realize what was going on until the other night. I was sitting there and I'm like, I'm going to watch one more. And then it was so disappointing as I watched it because it was just like, this is just people doing something boring and commenting on it. But I want more, I want more.

So like one more, one more, they'll do the next one. They'll get it the next time and I click the next one. And then an hour later, I had just repeated that process over and over again. And I realized along the way, all of these videos that I've been watching had over 7 million views each. There are tons of people, I think much like me, who get end up, they end up getting caught in this cycle without realizing it of like, this is slightly charming. I want something better.

You guys can do better. And then the none of them can do better. I think a lot of entertainment is based on that right now. I don't know what that means, but I think it has something to do with how bad late night is. I forgot that was where we were going. But the reason that I think it's related to- No, I totally see your point. The reason that I think it's related is that like, I think a lot of us these days

are craving escapism. And so these videos of like, I don't fucking know, let's watch these people eat dumplings. It somehow seems like a good jump off point. And then you're never satisfied. And you're looking for a little bit more, a little bit more, a little bit more. It never comes, but then it's two hours later and you've watched a ton of their shit. Yeah. And I think that people monetize that really well.

Yeah. I don't know if that's intentionally a business model, but I think it's fucking super successful. I mean, isn't that the, what is it? Addictive model of like your candy crush or the like there. The gamification of addiction. It might not be the exact same thing, but it's similar. It gives you the small bit of little charge. Yeah.

It gives you the small bit of serotonin. And then you just like, well, now that I've reached that base level, I need to keep going for that base level and no matter how far you're always chasing the dragon. I'll say that the Irish people trying stuff are a little bit better because at least I actually like a couple of their personalities. Like I've watched at this point from the rabbit holes that I've accidentally dove down. I've watched so many of these BuzzFeed videos. That's too many.

And I would say I've watched zero of those BuzzFeed videos. I still think that's too many. You don't know about the try guys. I really feel like I've watched too many of those videos just by hearing you talk about them. There are only like maybe two or three people in the entire pantheon of the BuzzFeed empire, which is wide-ranging that are at all interesting as personalities as depicted in their videos. Meanwhile, with the Irish people, I would say it's maybe 40% of them seem pretty cool. Dude, have you ever been to Ireland?

I want to go so bad. 98% of people in Ireland. I want to go to Ireland and find Blahin. Fascinating. You want to find Ryan? No, no, no. Ireland is one of the most fascinating groups of people who hate everyone you will ever meet. Let's do a show.

Incredible. Let's go to Ireland to do a show so I can find these people. Love them. And have a fucking uncomfortable conversation. I have never been made more uncomfortable by saying high than in an Irish bar. And that person loved me. Right. The other Irish bars I've been to, they hated me and I felt more comfortable than when the person was just like,

ah, and that was it. That was it. And I was like, Oh, I love you too. I don't, I didn't know how to express it. I'm not positive if any of this had anything to do with anything, but I feel like I've made a point. Anyways, late night might not be valuable, but I do, I do respect in that last clip. Alex is saying, I don't want to say that Ford is a fucking come on. You can't, you can't say that.

That's not okay. Turns out you can. So in this next clip, Alex sort of rambles a whole bunch about whether or not he wants there to be violence. And I'll let you decide where he comes down on the issue. Okay. So all I'm saying is if the Democrats start riding in burning cities and they bring in a civil emergency, they've said they already want and they're trying to burn up the White House.

It's not martial law. If the president calls out the military to protect the White House, it's the military protecting us from chai, calm, globalist funded enemies that have already staged an emergency. So I'm saying we better start getting used to the thought of what we're going to do. It's like police. They have a threat force continuum, a force continuum of you do this, they do that. And it goes up, up, up, up, up to the point. Have you pulled a gun?

They pull a gun and shoot you. And so I don't want cops to pull guns and shoot people. I don't want to pull guns if Antifa comes to my house. I don't want any of this. But Antifa says they're going to come to members of Congress in ICE's house and kill them. The members of Congress that have been targeted in ICE need to take it and expect that they're coming. You understand? And then when you blow their ass off, they're going to call you a tyrant and call it martial law.

Hey, you're the ones opening the door to the bull, dumbasses. I'm not looking for any trouble, but if you're looking for a fight, you came to the right place because I'm not backing down to any of you people. That means nothing. That was so, uh, scat cat. That was MC scat cat. One step forward, two steps back. That was crazy.

Hey, Alex. This is Jordan from Chicago here. Hello, Jordan. The Laquan McDonald trial is occurring as we speak. So you just said that there should be a standardized action for cops to use force. So the cop should fund the thought. If a cop, you know, if I were to use force against you, then the cop would be justified in it. But what if I weren't?

What if there was- What if you're a child? What if there was a standardized response wherein you're a, I don't know, a kid and you're walking away from a cop and then he fucking murders you? Is that, is that okay? Is that okay, Alex? Should there be standardized rules? Oh, you know what?

I'm starting to think that maybe it only fucking matters whenever it's on your team. Yep. You know, it's super fun about this. Like on this episode, we've experienced Alex bending over so far backwards in order to justify Kavanaugh's indiscretions, let's say. Yeah. You know, like he's created this elaborate tapestry of bullshit based on Mike Adams stupid articles. Just to get away from this guy not getting on the Supreme court, when, like we've already been

very clear, like someone else could probably get in because the Democrats are cowardice. That is easily. 02:35:56,180 --> 02:35:56,580 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That doesn't- We have Neil Gorsuch.

Yeah. It's not, it's not some sort of thing. Well, like they're going to create demonic smears of anybody. No. It's really crazy to have a situation like this for such a low stakes bullshit. Alex is defending this thing because he has to defend Trump because there's a piece of self preservation that's involved there too. When you see things like that with Laquan McDonald or other instances of unarmed black

people being killed by the cops murdered, he doesn't, he doesn't create fabricated narratives. He doesn't even talk about the truth about it. He just never covers it. Nope. Fuck off. Yep. He sucks. Fuck you.

So we have one more clip, Jordan. Yeah. And let's do it. Let's chase this down. This is, this is a punch. Let's chase my weird Laquan McDonald nightmare down. This is a punchline if there is one. I mean, the people listening now, I told you, who listens and who calls me and it's

all off record, but you know, world leaders, top Fox news host, a lot of members of Congress. We had a lot before, but this is like fight club now. So you can tell people, your friends and family, hey, Alex Jones are trying to shut him down for a reason. It's the guest. It's the callers. It's the information. Learn why the system wants info wars.com shutdown.

Learn what scares them so much. The truth. I'll play clips of Soros on 60 minutes saying the best time of his life was serving Hitler and he made happy time. That's a quote. And then I show the news saying I'm a liar. He never served Hitler. I mean, a lot of it's not that fancy.

It's just we're willing to tell it like it is. You might have missed it in there, but Alex just broke the first and second rule of fight club. What's that? He advocated that you talk about it. Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. He said that this show is basically fight club. So tell your friends. What?

It is almost like even in his fictional arguments, the sentence he makes an argument, he invalidates that argument. I mean, it's super petty of me to bring up the rules of fight club, but. Oh, Dan, Dan, Jordan, let's submit this episode if we can. Um, white men are great and they will never commit violence against women. So I think we've solved it. And mind control, not even a problem whenever women aren't allowed to speak, especially when they have mind control.

They're gifted in mind control. This episode has been a lot of bullshit. And I think demonstrates simultaneously why I hate the present. And at the same time, why we kind of got to talk about the present from time to time. Look, I'm not, you're not going to get this. It's this razor's edge that we end up walking. Like it's, it's awful to sit here and listen to Alex Jones say this disrespectful, awful stuff about someone who you can hear her speak and, and look at the reality of the situation.

I'm like, Oh yeah, this, this. Well, we can't say because we're not in the court and we can't prove this. It very clearly is credible. Like I don't, I'm not, I wasn't there. I can't say it happened, but there is no part of my body or my being that thinks that it didn't. Right. It's, it sucks to hear Alex create this elaborate conspiracy about that sort of situation. But at the same time, what other show than ours is going to

talk about the idea that he has created conspiracy control. Right. Yeah. That's, that is a. No, I know. That is a crazy defense. I don't think Trump would even try that. He's, he's, well, we'll see in a week.

Yeah. I was going to say we've already talked about how parody is non-existent anymore. Well, we'll see. We'll see if he gets desperate and has to like call for the bench. But like this, this to me is like, I don't see anybody talking about this level of complete fucked up weirdness, high strangeness without aliens. Arch, arch. It's insane.

It's arch. So I, I will say at the end of this, I respect my responsibility of having to go into this stuff as much as it sucks. And we'll check in from time to time in the present as much as I fucking hate it. And I wish we just lived in 2009 because I like learning. I didn't learn anything from this except for about the lies. You know? Yeah, but that's fun to learn about.

It is fun on some level. I like learning about that. Bill Kimpton. Kimpton. I like learning about him. He seems like an all right guy. He seems like a great dude. His family.

I don't know. Not yet. No. One of, Laura, his daughter. Yeah. What about her? Dude. Tell me some shit about Laura.

She's an amazing artist and actually does a lot of work at Burning Man. She, she creates like. These motherfucking trust fund hippies. I know. Motherfucking. All right. But she actually, I've looked into it. I read a couple interviews with her.

She's created these like really interesting art pieces where a lot of it is about the like symbolic destruction of it. Not like in the like the, the, the central Burning Man concept of like burning the. Yeah. 02:41:14,740 --> 02:41:15,300 Yeah. I get it. Yeah.

But like violent destruction of her own artwork, like shooting it. Like that sort of thing as a, as like a ritual. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds hot. One of the, one of the art pieces, I can't remember what the name of it is, but it had like a, it was a parody of money. Like a two, like two of the S's in the name.

Which she has a lot of. No shit. It's hard to take that away from it. But, but if you were born into that, you shouldn't be begrudged having it. You should give away a bunch, which she does through the mental insight foundation. Let's all get rid of our preconceptions. Like, you know, you want to hate rich people. And I understand.

I don't want to. I don't mean you. I mean, one does. I do. One. I don't want to. Want, it implies that there's a possibility of the other. It's easy to do it, but all rich people aren't evil.

That's true. Anyway, I don't know. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about anymore. Anyways, Hamdi Ulekaya, we have carried water for you at least thrice. And it's about time that you went to the Knowledge Fight website and clicked the support the show. But we would love to the two of you sponsored us. We're at the point where sponsors should come around.

Yeah, no, no, no. I'm going to send him an email. I'm straight up three. Do it. I'm buzzed enough right now. Before after we end this, I'm going to send him an email offering a sponsorship. Two or $3,000 per episode. Hamdi seems too high.

We will continue. No, how dare you? We will continue to say that you aren't a piece of shit. That seems like blackmail. That's not a good sales pitch. No, I don't think John Ham pulled that one off in Mad Men. Imagine a carousel. Imagine every duck that was on that carousel had a bad part of your life on it.

Imagine wanting not people to see that carousel. Kodak. That's a bad version of the first episode. Who's that? Was that the one? No, I want that. I want it. Look, we're going to edit out a lot of this.

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God, I wish I knew what dates were. I'm going to be at the improv in Schoenberg next. There's a week. What's the date of it? The 11th. I'll be at the improv next Thursday. The 11th. I'll be featuring for somebody there.

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Absolutely. Yeah. So now we come to the end of this and I will say that Dr. Blasey Ford's mind control work. Say one thing about it. What about? It's never killed anybody. Has anybody?

I know one guy who probably did. Who? Alex Jones. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan.

I love your work. I love you.