Knowledge Fight - #230D: Obama Deception, Part 4

Episode Date: November 22, 2018

Today, Dan and Jordan enter the home stretch, episode 4 of their coverage of Alex Jones' 2009 "documentary" The Obama Deception. In this installment, we pick up on a cliff-hanger and learn about how insane Ron Paul's brother is, then learn a little bit about Ron's career in the House of Representatives. It's not all Paul family stuff this episode though, there's also some historical revisionism and more made-up quotes.

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-name caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. The voice you will hear shortly is my co-host, Jordan. We are two dudes. I'd like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. You have joined us here on part four of our coverage of Alex Jones's very loosely described as a documentary film, The Obama Deception, from 2009.

If you haven't listened to the rest of the episodes, I recommend you go ahead and go back and listen to those before jumping into part four, because we are starting this episode off on a cliffhanger. Oh, no. I left you hanging yesterday, and I'm sorry about that. But today, I promise it is all worth it. Once we get into this, you will see, I give thanks for this fun that we will have here today, where we make fun of Ron Paul and his family. Maybe not the best thing to do on Thanksgiving, making fun of people's relatives. But oh, well, it's Alex who put him in the documentary. It's his own fault.

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So without further ado, I give you part four of the Obama deception. While at the end of the Fed rally outside the Federal Reserve Bank in Dallas, Texas, we spoke with Ron Paul's brother, Wayne Paul. Oh, no. No. In 1913, the Federal Reserve Act was passed. The floor of the house where three members of Congress were on the floor. At that time, they only needed a majority of votes to pass it. So in 1913, the Federal Reserve Act was passed.

Jordan, you completely unacceptable, unforgivable things just happened in this documentary. Okay. Number one, Ron Paul's brother just said that the Federal Reserve Act passed with just three members of Congress on the floor. And two, Alex Jones didn't fact check that at all before allowing this to be in his dumb ass documentary. I, I am going to, I'm going to be honest with you. That whole, that whole like the Federal Reserve Act passed with just three members on the

floor. I just let that one go. Really? I just let, I was just like, that's so silly and stupid and nonsensical. And it's coming from Ron Paul's brother. Yeah. Yeah. It just passed in.

Here's what I was thinking while, while Ron Paul's brother was talking, where'd you learn how to talk? That's the only thing. That's the only thing. Yeah. Exactly. The only thing I was thinking was like, I don't understand the words you're saying because nobody ever taught you how to speak words.

Yeah. So here's the deal. The myth surrounding the passage of the Federal Reserve Act is that evil, sneaky forces waited until Christmas break when they knew that no congressmen would be around to force their legislation through. It's a Christmas miracle. So that they could enslave the country. That sounds right.

It's a compelling story and it's definitely inspiring to a lot of weirdos out there who don't want to pay taxes, but it's complete bullshit. The first, the first time that what could be described as the Federal Reserve Act was proposed was June 26th, 1913. The primitive bill didn't go far and an improved version was introduced on August 29th, 1913 under the name HR 7837. It was debated and on September 18th, 1913, it passed the House. When it went over to the Senate, it ran into some problems and an amended version was sent

back to the House. This inability to come to a consensus continued until December 22nd, 1913 when the House agreed to the conference version of the bill and it passed by a vote of 296 to 60 with 76 not voting. Three to zero. The next day, the Senate voted on this version of the bill, the conference version, and it passed with 43 yeas and 25 nays with 27 not voting. How do you feel about that?

I'm all right. I got it. The people in the House who didn't vote don't really matter. The bill was still going to pass no matter what. What was up with the senators who didn't vote? Well, here's the deal. Some... Polio!

It was 1913. What was Christmas break? Right. So someone could look at the tallies at the Senate and say, hey, wait a minute, if all 27 of the people who didn't vote voted against the bill, it wouldn't have passed. They could have stopped it. I get the sense that this is where Alex's argument comes from, that Ron Paul's brother is completely misrepresenting to say that three people were on the floor, which is so

goddamn historically inaccurate and demonstrably so. It's embarrassing. Like what is he saying? That's crazy. That is nowhere even close to true. In 1913, three people were on the floor and 18 dogs voted. You know, the congressional record is all available online. You can't trust that.

It was written by bears. By the Jews. Bears walked into the door and they became Jews. That's where Jews came from. So I get the sense that maybe that like 27 not voting in the Senate is where some of the colonel. I get that. That's bullshit too though.

Of course. The way Congress works with votes that are happening during times when people are likely to be on vacation is that members of Congress try really hard to help each other out. One of the ways they do that is to plan what's called announced pairs of people who will skip votes without affecting the outcome of the vote. We saw this happen in the Kavanaugh confirmation when Lisa Murkowski, who is opposed to the confirmation, agreed not to vote so that Steve Danes, who was in favor of the confirmation, could attend his daughter's wedding.

There's like a congressional courtesy to each other. Don't be a dick. When it doesn't matter, you're against it and I'm for it. Right. You need to go to your daughter's wedding. Who gives a shit? Right. So all these people who are like, I was going to vote against it.

You want to go on break? I live in DC or something like that. I will agree to go together. Right. Right. It's almost like people are people. Yeah. So the vote to pass the Federal Reserve Act is, and it's spelled out very clearly in the

congressional record, it's this, for the Senate vote, there were 13 announced pairs of senators who agreed to offset each other's votes so they couldn't just decided we wouldn't show up for Christmas, which accounts for 26 of the 27 non-voters. There's only one vote unaccounted for, which means that even if all the senators voted, the bill still would have passed. And that guy was in Africa hunting the most dangerous game of all. Human. There's no way to call this a fraud without just making stuff up, which is what Ron Paul's

brother is doing here. This is crazy. Like that's crazy. There's a lot. Wait. Are you saying that somebody from Ron Paul's family is saying crazy, unfactual shit? Now, look, there's a lot of, there's a lot of like ways to like, we talked about earlier. There's a lot of ways to talk about the problems of the Fed that aren't based on this stupid

bullshit. Like if you're putting this in your documentary and not being like, huh, it might be embarrassing for me to put my name on a video of somebody saying there's three people who voted on the Federal Reserve Act without looking into it. Like what are you doing? Why are, and you know what? That's a big reason why a lot of the other stuff that he was like, he was just like, I'm going to punt on this.

Yeah. Because things like this, like if you allow this in your documentary, I don't give a fuck about anything you're saying. So wait, did it pass two to one? No. No, I mean, in his fake version of it, well, you need a majority or was it a majority? All right. What was it?

Zero. Was it unanimous? Three to zero, two to one. The only possible. Okay. Fine. Fine. Fuck off.

Regardless of the facts. Give me three names. Oh, that'd be great. Give me the three names of the people who voted. If you know so fucking much about this, give me any specific, give me the three names of the people who voted. That's, it's not hard to remember. If you imagine that only three people voted, you should know their name.

Pete, Greg, and Dutch get out. Get bent. There you go. All right. Well, you won. Wayne Paul. You're the next Ron Paul. Ron Paul's brother is full of shit.

Like to it, to it, to an nth degree. Like I understand that he might believe that. There's no way you can believe that. He might be senile. I have no fucking idea. Okay. That's true. Or like, I don't, I don't want anything about Wayne Paul.

Right. Do you know everything about Wayne Paul? I don't think about it. We can't do a podcast about it. We'll never do it. But I, I can, I can conceive of some version of like, he's convinced himself that that's true. Yeah.

But it's not. I suppose. The historical record shows that that's not true. And in order to prove that it is true, you need extraordinary proof that what you're saying is true. Yeah. He offers no proof of it. It's like the simplistic, it's like, okay.

They want to, they want to believe that the Federal Reserve is evil and they're willing to lie in any way to make that argument. I know, but even if you're stupid and I don't mean that in the pejorative term, I mean more ignorant or, or more like less, less interested in following up on shit, if you have even the most cursory knowledge of American history, there's no way that you're going to be like, are you saying that a major bill that changed the course of American history was passed by three guys? Well, and also, is that the house or is it in the house of the Senate?

It's ever because it would have to pass both. No, it was passed by two guys in the house and one guy in the Senate. So that would be the three. Yeah. That would be like the biggest story ever. Exactly. No, you would read about that every fucking day. The the other and then the code into that would be like a week later, everybody got

together and we're like, no, we're not going to accept a three dudes vote bill. The other 400 representatives and the other, I don't know, 99 senators would come back and be like, we're kicking these three people's ass. Exactly. Right. Yeah. Somebody would be straight up. Look, this was in 1913.

People were still like trust up also in feathers and also considered the narrative that they're putting forward. And that is that Woodrow Wilson wanted this bill to happen. So obviously, even if they passed it unscrupulously, he would have signed it. But that level of other senators and house representatives could have vetoed his signing of the bill. I don't understand. Teach me about civics.

All this is so crazy, stupid. That's insane. Like that's what I was teasing earlier. Like the idea that Ron Paul's brother believes this is advocating it in this documentary and Alex didn't cut it out because he should have cut that out. Oh, hell yeah. This is so dumb. That's a crazy idiot.

Stupid. That's a dumb guy. He has just demonstrated that Ron Paul's brother is borderline incompetent. Like he borderline. Well, I don't know. He might be able to feed himself, but like that's your that's your border for. That's worse than KRS ones metaphor. Like that's way worse.

It makes me so much more concerned for his well being. Like if you believe that you're willing to go to an end of the fed rally and try and convince other people that that's true, what you are far gone. What you do not know is that Wayne Paul can spit hot bars. I am not joking. I also should say I feel really bad about this, but I didn't look into whether or not Wayne Paul is still alive. He might be dead.

I have no idea. He doesn't have a Wikipedia page. What a shock. He has a way to. Whatever. All right. All right. So where are we at?

Wayne Paul is still doing this. Wayne Paul has more to say. Okay. Why 20 years later, 1933 under Roosevelt, the United States was declared bankrupt. In 1933, the Federal Reserve Bank said, okay, USA, what are you going to pledge is collateral. What are you going to do? What happened by 1936? What are you fucking talking about?

We instituted social security system and you and I and our children and our children. Oh, he's had a stroke, maybe he's had a stroke. Come on. All right. Okay. He's not done talking. He may have had. No, he's done talking.

No, he's not in this document. I know, but he's done. You know, like he may or may not have had a stroke. And I do feel a little bit bad on that approach, but at the same time, sounds exactly like Ron Paul, like not just in vocal quality, saying similar things. True. So if they both had a simultaneous stroke and you know, that'd be a fun show, but even if he did have a stroke, he's still being used as a propaganda tool in Alex's documentary.

So we still have to rebut what he's, you know, he's got those old man glasses from the seventies that you got to respect. So also, um, he has more, but that idea is like that idea that we are pledged as collateral through social security. All that. That makes zero sense. It's a deep, it's a, it's a foundational sovereign citizen belief. So, so far, all of what he has said is fantastical on a level that I wouldn't believe in a novel.

Oh, sure. Like in any kind of fictional universe, I'd be like, that's fucking dumb. Right. Move on. I'm seriously going to tell me that a legally binding, uh, resolution was passed through both the house and the Senate by three total guys, meaning all of American history, the constitution, et cetera. All of that has been invalidated by three fucking dudes.

That's it. Well, that's all it took. Three dudes. Yeah. I mean, Ron, Ron Paul doesn't not agree with this. Fair enough. He also doesn't think black people should be allowed today, took years to make this country bankrupt and since then our government has operated under emergency powers of our

government. It is not the president that makes the decision in this country. It's the secretary of treasury who turns around and is put in there by the federal reserve to manage the bankruptcy. We've been in bankruptcy ever since. So to print $700 billion and to give it away, how do they get away with it? The manager of the bankruptcy is told by the federal reserve. This is the way to go.

That's where we're at today. If you were listening carefully, you can hear Alex giving an interview to somebody else in the background. Yeah, I heard that. We got Ron Paul's brother here. Yeah, I heard that. So, um, what he's talking about here in terms of the bankruptcy of the United States, I had a strong suspicion, but I looked into it and I found this is definitely what he's

talking about. He's talking about the emergency banking act of 1933. It doesn't declare the U.S. bankrupt at all. That's just something that gets repeated over and over again on sovereign citizen message boards with no proof. I tried to look into this more to understand the argument, but pretty much all the websites that purport to prove that the U.S. went bankrupt in 1933 happened to also be the kind of websites with the word Jew in really scary letters at the top of the page.

Right. Oh, I get, I get a real vibe off this. The font version of the hard jet. Yes. Yes, absolutely. Gotcha. Most of the arguments that are on these pages also rely very heavily on a forgery of a speech allegedly made by Jim Traficant in the Senate in 1993.

Jim Traficant, if you don't recall, was convicted of 10 felony counts, including accepting bribes, racketeering and tax evasion back in 2002, which led to him being one of the first people to be expelled from the house in, I think it was in 20 years, the first person in 20 years to be expelled from the house of representative and sent to prison for 17 months. Steve King was reelected and that guy is expelled. Well, I mean, he was up to some real serious bribe taken. Yeah, that's true. Whereas opposed to like white supremacy is a mid, like a, what?

It's just tasteful. Well, I mean, I would suppose it'd be like a misdemeanor. In fact, though, after Jim Traficant got out of prison, he did an interview with Project Camelot. All right. Well, we're going to do that one sooner or later. No, we're not. I watched it.

It's too boring. Oh, damn it. Yeah. I would have loved to do it. Aliens? Not a lot of aliens. God damn it. I know it's unfortunate.

What's the point? Anyway, a lot of this stuff is really fun to think about for a little bit that Ron Paul's brother is bringing to the table. But really, all I come away with is the realization that like the Paul family might not be all that smart. They might be deeply involved in like, like really weird sovereign citizen beliefs. And also, I can't stress this enough, what he's expressing about the idea that US went bankrupt in 1933 is almost entirely, if you look into it online, almost all sources lead

back to this speech that Jim Traficant gave on the floor in 1993. And it's a forgery. It's not real. It's a fake speech. So the guy who was the first guy to be expelled from the house for 20 years is used as an example to prove that the American government has been bankrupt for 70 years, and he didn't even do that. Well, but the reason that he's used is the same reason that people go back to like Abraham

Lincoln and get like apply these words to him that he never said. It's a different strategic tactic. They use Jim Traficant because he committed a whole bunch of crimes and got expelled from the house and sent to prison. So they can use him as like, no, he was expelled. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got that on the floor and said that we've been, he would dare to speak the truth that we've been bankrupt since 1933 when you can go and read the Emergency Banking Act.

It doesn't say that we're bankrupt at all. Conspiracy theorists are so similar to women who fall in love with like the, like Ted Cousin. Yeah. You know, it's like, no, no, no, you guys just don't know him the way I do. He would never have committed that crime. But I feel much more for them than conspiracy theorists. They're, they're, it's, it's, it's all could, it all could be resolved with just a slight amount of reading.

Or not even that. Just think for one second. All right. So based on what you're saying, the government has been operating under emergency powers through the Treasury Secretary managing the bankruptcy for 70 years. There's no way that could have been kept secret for two years, max, knowing what I know about human beings. I mean, there's a lot of people who have been in and out of the house really quick.

They can be like, Oh fuck, you know what I mean? Oh yeah. Yeah. And second, at a certain point, if everything's going fine, you would have just been like, Oh yeah, by the way, this is how we're doing it now. Like if nobody notices, it's not an emergency. Oh, true. You can't be operating under emergency powers for 70 years.

That's just status quo power. No, I understand that. But it's the same thing that like Larry Nichols does with talking about like the FEMA provisional government and stuff like that. It's just official sounding terms. And the reason emergency powers is so appealing is because it relates back to the emergency banking act. Right.

33. So like it has this like, well, it was an emergency then and then that heck. And now it's, and now it's fine mitigate that emergency. So it's just fine. Right. It's just fine. But it's not. Yeah.

But it's fine. Right. Even if, even if what you're saying is true, it's been going on for 70 years and everybody's kind of been fine. The only things that have changed as black people are allowed to vote now. And they don't like that. Yeah. That's true.

Fair enough. That may be our main issue. Yes. We should point out Congress and Ron Paul now has a huge amount of sponsors for a bill in the House of Representatives to abolish the private Federal Reserve crime syndicate. Everyone's cheering, having a great time. Hell yeah. So on March 17th, 1999, I like his FBI glasses.

Alex is wearing FBI glasses like a motherfucker right now. So on March 17th, 1999, Ron Paul announces HR 1148 with no co-sponsors to end the Federal Reserve. It dies in committee. Oh yeah. In 1999. Oh yeah. But Alex Jones is now coming out here and he's saying, we've now woken up the world.

So on February 3rd, 2009, I can't imagine what you did on February 3rd, those sponsors for that bill. In 99 though. In the Fed. In fact. In 99. Destroy the economy bill. HR 11443.

In 99. Before everyone woke up. Okay. So now on February 3rd, 2009, Ron Paul announces HR 883 to end the Federal Reserve. Sure. With no co-sponsors. Of course. It dies in committee.

I don't understand why. 10 years later, Alex is out there with a bullhorn. He's got so many sponsors. He has no co-sponsors. So Jordan. Even Ted Cruz is shitty shit as a co-sponsor. Not always. No, that's true.

You know what? You dig into people's record who are in Congress and you start to realize a lot of them were fucking wasting time. Oh yeah. And I looked into. No, there's a reason that they deserve a 9% approval rating. I accidentally learned too much about Ron Paul's bills that he's sponsored in doing this research.

So I want to tell you a little bit about some of them. I should tell you that on May. Pay for my bill at Applebee's HR 99444. So on May 8th, 2012, Ron Paul introduced HR 1094 to end the Fed. No co-sponsors. No. Died in committee. How long was the bill though?

Oh, not that long. Is he literally just giving out bills that are like, end the Fed? Just copy and pasting what he did. Yeah. Right. So on February 8th, 1983, Ron Paul introduced HR 875 to end the Fed. No co-sponsors. Still alive.

He was still. Oh man. Died in committee. We got to get rid of these people. Ron Paul does this every year and it goes out the same way every year. Interestingly though, Ron Paul has a lot of weird quirky bills that he's introduced over the years. In 1979, he introduced Duxer people now.

Might as well. Yeah. Might as well. In 1979, he introduced HR 2310, seeking to repeal OSHA. He doesn't mean the occupational safety in it. He does. No, no, no. He was actually talking about, he just misspelled ocean.

I hate the oceans. He's trying to repeal oceans. Let's drink the oceans. If everyone works together, we can drink. We can drink the Atlantic. Saltwater Vampire Bill. That one got no co-sponsors and died in committee. Okay.

The same year, he introduced, this is 1979, he introduced House Joint Resolution 572, which stated, quote, a joint resolution congratulating the men and women of the United States space programs and of the industry's businesses and educational institutions, supporting them who have developed a new field of technology to promote and preserve the free enterprise system, the acquisition of knowledge and freedom. This seems fucking innocuous as hell as a resolution. That seems fine. No co-sponsors and died in committee.

So if I understand correctly, Ron Paul's tenure in Congress has essentially been one giant group of people saying, leave us alone. I get the sense everyone hated him. Yeah, everybody hated him. Because that is so just like, hey, space people are great. Yeah. It's not binding. It's not saying we do anything.

It's just congratulating him. I'm not into that. Fuck you. So he fucked around. I don't even want to give you the appearance of me accepting you being a thing. So at some point he fucked around and tried to repeal the National Flood Insurance Act of 1968. He did get a triple double, though.

And the Flood Disaster Protection Act of 1973 both did not work out. No co-sponsors and died in committee. In 1983, you proposed HR 4984, which was titled, quote, a bill to prohibit the use of funds for the Peace Corps to be used for travel expenses of individuals in order for abortions to be provided for those individuals. I don't understand what any of that even means. So he just doesn't want to fund people in the Peace Corps who are traveling to get abortions. I guess.

Or he doesn't want to fund people who are in the Peace Corps who have had abortions to then travel. No, specifically, is he worried that menstruation brings bears? I don't understand what the point of this is. Specifically, the language of the bill is specifically so you can't have money if you're in the Peace Corps to travel to get an abortion. I don't understand if that's a problem. I don't either.

Was there, has that even ever been a thing? In 83, that was a crisis. So Ron Paul introduced that legislation. God damn it, Reagan. No co-sponsors, died in committee. In 1979, Ron Paul tried to repeal the Soil and Water Conservation Act. Right. No co-sponsors.

We need to get rid of soil and water. I've been following up on this ocean bill and no one's paid attention. So now it's time to bring the land into this. It's all silt from now on. Sediment or fuck yourself. He did some fucking quirky ass shit while he was in office. So here's the deal. Ron Paul was in the house from 1979 to 1985 and then again from 1997 to 2013,

a total of the two 10 years of 25 years. And according to the official congressional bill tracker, there's only one bill that he sponsored that ever became law. And it was in 1920, I'm sorry, 1920. It actually might make more sense than it was in 1929. In 2009, and the bill that all it said was quote, to authorize the administrator of general services to convey a parcel of real property in Galveston, Texas, to the Galveston Historical Foundation.

That's all he ever achieved of his own volition in 25 years in the House of Representatives. Now Dan did co-sponsor a number of bills, but those are bills that other people put forward that he just put his name on. But so I mean, like the fact that he has had 25 years in Congress, it's crazy that record to me suggests America gets what they get. We have Trump coming to us. It's our fault. It's pretty crazy.

It's not Trump's fault. Look, guys, we have it coming. Well, I mean, it's time for the chickens to come home to roast. I think what it is is also an indication that a lot of these bills that he knew was never, they were never going to get out of committee. Of course not. And he would go home back to his base and he'd be like, I told them that we need to turn dogs into dogs,

but have dogs on top of those dogs. And those dogs are going to become hot dogs. We're going to give the government off your neck and I'm the one working for you to do it. I'm glad my district is full of dog dogs. That sort of thing. We don't want no oceans in Arizona. I'll tell you that right now. It's such a good scam.

It's amazing. Like you really look at it and like, what did Ron Paul achieve? Other than ever confusing a lot of people about the Federal Reserve in 25 years in office. Like he got one bill passed as a law. I know. But like even in life, like what did he accomplish? I'm sure he's a great granddad or something like that. I don't know.

I mean, if his kid is Rand Paul, I really don't think so. Great point. His brother is Wayne. We already met. Yeah. He's a terrible great uncle. That's what you're going to go with. Look, I don't like to talk about people's personal lives, but we've had a couple of his family members who are relevant.

I think Ron Paul might have been a complete failure as a human being. Has anybody considered whether or not Ron Paul is a complete and utter failure? You know what, too? I look through all the bills he ever sponsored. I didn't see anything about like legalizing weed or anything like that. Like you're the stuff that really like people stuff that he's supposed to be on the vanguard. He might have cosponsored something that someone else put forward or something like that, but he never introduced legislation. It like in order to be like, Hey, let's get these trees flowing or anything like that.

Like it's crazy. Like all the things that we think of him as like real positive. Yeah. I didn't see that in his record. Look, look, if I died tomorrow, I'd be like, uh, well, you know what, at least I at least we did the show. I feel like we did something good. I feel like we, we made something that will, that will, you know, at least affect some people's lives. At least I'm not a complete and utter failure like Ron Paul.

Ron Paul might have a podcast anyway. I bet it's bigger than ours in 1913. Kucinich can suck it. The money power of the country was taken away from the people who suck it. Kucinich by constitutional privilege. Wait for it. Wait for it. Wait for it.

The Federal Reserve Act. Wait for it. Federal reserve is no more federal than federal express. Hold on. Everybody get down. What? What? If we take that back and put the Federal Reserve under treasury, we start to be in a position of being able to control monetary policy on behalf of the United States people.

If you put the Federal Reserve under the Department of Treasury, what you do is allow whoever is in power to control everything about the monetary system. Can't understand. What are you talking about? That is not a healthy way to do this. Don't understand. So all these people who use these fallacious arguments, fucking Dennis Kucinich is here on the floor saying that stupid the Federal Reserve is no more federal than federal express line. Yeah, but. Like, you know, what he's advocating for is specifically the ability of whoever is in power to completely manipulate the financial system.

No, I agree. Which is what I would never want to be the case. I agree. But Dennis Kucinich does look like two six-year-old boys standing on top of each other wearing a suit. There is that. Also, I know this is weird. I know people who are listening to the podcast can't hear this. He's got a good pocket square too.

I think I have that tie. The Federal Reserve is totally divided. And Ellen Greenspan two weeks ago on PBS on Lair News Hour said on record that they are above the law, the Congress, the president, everyone. No court can do anything. We run America. I am above the law. Who is the proper relationship? What should be the proper relationship between the chairman of the Fed and a president of the United States?

Well, first of all, the Federal Reserve is an independent agency. And that means basically that- Boo! There's no- Go suck Ayn Rand's balls, you fucker! Which can overrule actions that we take. So long as that is in place and there is no evidence that the administration or the Congress or anybody else is requesting that we do things other than what we think is the appropriate thing, then what the relationships are don't frankly matter.

Notice- So what he's saying there, you know, fuck Ellen Greenspan all you want. Hate him all you want. I do. I think that's- And I will. But that's secondary to the issue at hand. Alex is saying that he went on this PBS show with Mick and Neil, got rest in peace Lair.

But like he's saying that Ellen Greenspan came on and said that he's above the law. That is not what he's saying. Right. This is like he, he's explaining basically that on a day to day basis, the Congress and president do not dictate the actions of the Federal Reserve. That's a specific feature of the public, private nature of the bank to make sure that no political force would be able to dictate monetary policy. Would Alex prefer the president have complete control over the monetary system and be able to tell them what to do? Is that a preferable system to him? Doesn't he, doesn't he realize how easy that would be to turn into like exactly what we talked about over and over again?

This is nonsense. Yeah, you know. What Ellen Greenspan is saying there isn't that we're above the law. It's that on a, it's a cherry pick quote. But also what he's expressing is that as long as they're not asking us to do anything inappropriate, it really doesn't matter what our relationship is. Right. We exist as our entity and, you know, that's not, it's bullshit. Yes.

The same. Greenspan is saying the Federal Reserve is beyond the law and in reality they are in practice beyond the law. Nobody, as far as I know, has ever audited the Federal Reserve. Except everybody who ever has. So the first things we ought to do when we nationalize the Fed is go in there and find out the audit. Real quick, just keep in mind that he just said we are going to nationalize the Federal Reserve. Of course. Keep that in mind for later.

Of course. Who engaged in corruption? There's a whole series of people going back to Volcker, to Greenspan, to Bernanke and so forth. Think of the arrogance of private group of banks. Think of the arrogance. By design so they can repel the country. A private group of banks that loaned us our own money back are telling us they're above the law. You are not above the law, criminal.

No one is above the law. No one is above the law. No one is above the reserve. Sure as hell, neither. Since the founding of the Federal Reserve back under Woodrow Wilson, the Federal Reserve has struck out three times. They didn't stop the crash in 1929. They didn't stop the banking panic of 1932-1933. And now they are the cause of the derivatives crisis.

So this is about Obama, right? Derivatives on the world with Alan Greenspan. So I want to be fair to... The presentation of this is the Obama deception, but it is supposedly about the people behind the scenes. Yeah, this is essentially about them. So now we've just gotten into this Federal Reserve and all that shit. We've already dealt with very foundational misunderstandings that they have about what the Federal Reserve is, what they do, what their history is, what the history of the Federal Reserve act is, what quotes people have said about centralized banking.

They've fabricated two quotes already. Right. Now in this case, Webster Tarpley is saying that the Federal Reserve is evil and it must go because they've failed to stop two crashes and maybe caused one over the course of 105 years since they've been around. I mean then, you know, he's not making a serious argument if that's what he's bringing to the table. Dan, I wonder what number of crashes and financial panics occurred prior to the Federal Reserve? Well, it's nuts to think about the exact number because it's nebulous. No, stop.

A lot of different sources will give you a lot of different answers. Regional? And there were ongoing... Concurrents? There were ongoing depressions that had like big panics within the singular depression. The financial climate... Or it'd be like Massachusetts is fine and Maine is... And New York is on fire.

Exactly. The financial climate before 1913 was one of constant chaos with crashes happening way more frequently than we've seen since. In the 23 years between 1884 and 1907, the economy was basically in a constant state of depression with six distinct severe panics along the way. The myth of the financial paradise that was uprooted by the creation of the Federal Reserve is exactly that. It's a myth that's told around campfires by paranoid anti-government propagandists. And look, I have no vested interest in the Federal Reserve existing. I don't give a shit. I think it's done a good job, but if it didn't, I would be totally fine saying that.

I looked into these things and they're all bullshit. I would be on their side and I would tell you that, like I would say, and the Fed, if they weren't fucking lying. Honestly, at this point in my research of this stuff, I'm close to fed up. That was a pun. Fuck you. Instead of... I'm not going to give you nothing. I'm not going to give you nothing.

These guys, the private Federal Reserve masquerades as a government entity, who controls the issuance of currency and credit. They're the ones that have cut off the liquidity in the market. They told us to have a debt-based economy. Then they cut it off once they get us under their thumb and implode the economy so they can consolidate it. And that's what they're doing right now. I mean, it's in their own documents. It's in their own statements. Bring those out in public then.

It's so frustrating when you can so clearly... This happens in so many conversations where you're talking to somebody and they're saying shit like that and they're like, Oh, okay, you know two things and you know nothing else. And none of that provides any context to what you're saying and you're just wasting my fucking time. You know two things. Learn more things before you talk to me. But the other problem is that we know too many things. And when we hear Alex say something like this, the idea that they're trying to bring things down so they can consolidate and buy everything.

That all traces back to the fraudulent story derived from literal Nazi propaganda about Nathan Rothschild using secret information about Napoleon at Waterloo to crash the market in London so he could buy it all up for cheap. Like we know Alex believes that story is true. He's expressed it on multiple occasions. He brought it up in Endgame. He talks about it all the time. It's not true. So it's hard not to see what he's saying here and imagine that that's just an archetype of how he thinks these globalists, in quotes, they work and it applies universally when the facts on the ground don't apply that way.

So when I hear him say this stuff, I'm like, and there's Wayne Paul in the background, by the way. Hey! But yeah. How are you doing, you crazy old bastard? It just to me is like, oh, that's the archetype you believe in. That's what you think the MO is, but that's just based on Nazi propaganda. So I don't know what to do with this except to say, eh? The Fed was actually built out of the blood of congressmen.

That's where the other 78 senators went. And we'll get the economy going, but they're hoarding the money and buying up other banks that aren't part of the Federal Reserve, buying up insurance companies, buying up roads, infrastructures, media empires, defense contractors. What the banks do is they implode an economy by cutting off credit. And then once things really fall to a low, and they know the low because then they buy everything up and start then putting more money back into the economy and then they build it back up. So they build us up and then share us. Build us up and share us.

And they're getting ready. All over the world, they're always shearing some country imploding it. It comes out in their own IMF World Bank documents. That's just the foreign arms and cartel. Show them. And these are the people who claim to be the saviors of the economy. The people who have created every important crisis in the past 100 years. Prove it.

The Federal Reserve. So it's illegal, it's unconstitutional, and it's a failure. And I think the failure is what everybody can see right now. Yeah, what they do is... Do what now? What? I don't know. What part of the Constitution is he talking about?

I think he just wanted to say Constitution. I think it was just sort of like, it seems like the right time to bring that up. Yeah, doesn't it? No one's... What part of the Constitution are you fucking talking about? I think Webster... When does the Constitution directly discuss banking? I think Webster Tarpoli looked at his watch and was like,

It's time to bring up the Constitution. It's been a while. It's unconstitutional? Whatever. I don't know what... What do these people actually think the Constitution... For all of the people who carry around like a pocket Constitution, have any of them ever actually read that fucking shit?

I don't know, it's probably the same as the people who read those like new modern language versions of the Bible and stuff like that. Oh yeah. Pocket Constitutions are probably like, they have bro in them and stuff like that. They'll make it really modern accessible for us. We gotta update it for the kids. We gotta get the kids involved in the Second Amendment, bro. I hate to...

People are running things, they know Bush will save us, and then, oh, Bush was evil. Now, we'll be saved by Barack Obama, but he's just a puppet. You puppet, me puppet. I got it. When they implode the economy, they have old... I'm saying he says puppet a lot. I get it.

But they also like to pose as the savior. I'm just saying I got it. He's a galean dialectic here. He'll save us with a million persons... Take a breath for God's sake! ...a three million person environmental spy force. You don't get an award for most words in a row. ...to go out and manage.

It is really funny too to look at the faces of the people around, and they're mostly bored. There's like... Or like... I just want to be in the background of this shot that Alex is shooting. Either that or that. There's one woman on the far right side of the screen who is looking off into the middle distance,

listening to him talk, just going like... Do I really want to be here? Also, if you look at this crowd, there's probably one non-white male and one woman. Where? I did see a non-white male somewhere. I think you're reflecting back to hours ago when we saw... Oh, that might be an in-game behind Jim Tucker.

Yeah, never mind. The other, you know, 297 million Americans. And so this is classical fascism. The communists also do it. Any vertically integrated... What? ...control... What?

...cauterian system. You're throwing words at a wall! The same group of banks did in Germany, Russia. You know, it's in the communist manifesto to have a private central bank. Where? Because the private central bankers actually wrote the ideas that they had Marx and Engels put out. People go, well, why would the banks want communism?

It doesn't exist. They rape us. They consolidate us. They put us in a war brigade. They make us slaves. And they say it's a people's paradise. Look at it. Boy, you're really doing good.

And then... I'm going to pause here for a second just because this is all... Just like so far, it's just been Alex sort of rambling about nothing. This is a lot of words with nothing else going on. I'd ask him to prove a lot of the things he's saying. But the important thing there that he brought up is about the communist manifesto. Like, Marx does advocate for a central bank. Do they advocate for a private central bank?

They advocate for a central bank to be nationalized. I really don't think that Marx was into private central banks. A state-run nationalized central bank. It's number five in the list of measures to implement. So he wasn't a big fan of a private central bank. Quote, centralization of credit in the hands of the state by means of the national bank with state capital and exclusive monopoly. That's one of the measures that will help bring in the society that he's working towards.

Now, I would like to quote Webster Tarpley from earlier in this documentary. Quote, one of the first things we ought to do when we nationalize the Fed is go in there and find out the audit. Webster Tarpley is a commie. He's advocating for nationalizing the central bank, which is a tenant of the communist manifesto. A good idea is a good idea. I'm not saying it's not, but I'm saying that look at this bullshit.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Does Alex not realize that that's in his documentary? He is complaining about the idea that this communist manifesto talks about central banks, but the context in which it does is the exact same as what Webster Tarpley is advocating for. Central banks have existed since the Dutch started getting creative in the 1600s. It's not an idea that was created by the communist manifesto. I like that just as a sentence.

They kind of got creative. Central banks have started since the Dutch started fucking around with life. They mixed it up a little. Who knows what's up with the Dutch? They started mixing it up. Maybe we get a little bit of a central bank going on. I don't know. They had some innovative ideas.

In the early 1600s, they had some sort of primitive ideas about central bank. And then towards the 1660s, it started to come together a little bit. It was interesting to me that like the nascent idea was in, it was the Dutch. And then the first sort of like universally accepted central bank was also the Dutch. I thought maybe they would come up with the idea and then someone else would improve on the concept. But they were like, nah, fuck it. We're going to do it. I am not going to be 100% on this.

I'm very worried. If I do remember. It seems like you're about to get racist about the Dutch. No, no, no. I'm actually saying the opposite. Like the way that European history goes. It's like people say that the Dutch were the first people to have a central bank. And I do not think that's true.

Well, I should tell you. I don't. I think in modern the West, that's true. But if I, I really don't think I should tell you that their reserve currency was wooden shoes. So stick your finger in a deck. Can't use that language anymore. I understand. I'm doing a draw.

All right, Dan. All right, Dan. That's why Seinfeld doesn't get work anymore. The idea of a central bank wasn't introduced by the communist manifesto at all. It was just something that made sense. It worked in the past. Were it to be nationalized is something that Marx thought was an important pillar of communist society. Now, more importantly, I'll wait until Alex proves to me that the unnamed private bankers he's talking about wrote the communist manifesto or were behind it.

Although this just stinks of anti-Semitism. He thinks it was Jews. No, I know it just like that sort of declaration to me. And I know it seems like we're just flippantly throwing around anti-Semitism. But the reason if you're if you're a new listener and this is your first experience with us and Alex Jones, we have several hundred episodes proving definitively. But so much anti-Semitism is going on. There's no reason to think that he's not like deeply influenced by anti-Semitic beliefs. But the reason that this one strikes me as particularly resonant is that it's I can't find any evidence that it's true.

And I, again, can't prove a negative. So like, I can't go to all of these like myriad historical resources about the writing of the communist manifesto. Marx history, Engels history, and then provide these documents to you that definitively show there weren't unnamed central bankers that Alex is not being specific about that were around somewhere. He's always going to move the goalposts and stuff like that. But the reason that it feels anti-Semitic is because number one, that like I said, I can't, I don't think it's true. I don't see any evidence that's true. And the Patriot world is absolutely chock-a-block with people who believe that bankers are a Jewish conspiracy and with people who believe that communism is a secret Jewish plot. So the idea that Alex is suggesting that bankers were behind communism all along is a weird confluence of those two beliefs that are very prevalent in the community that he's from.

Right. So it just that intersection doesn't seem like a coincidence to me. No. It's very troubling. I think the thing that I think about with the anti-Semitic underpinnings of so much of this is, and not always, because a lot of times it literally is straight up anti-Semitism. Sure. The thing that I think about is whether or not they're anti-Semitic or if they've recognized how effective this anti-Semitic propaganda has been against Jews on account of several thousand years of people getting one like propaganda about Jews and then all the pogroms and genocides and shit.

Right. And we're like, oh, this would be a great idea to use against people of all non-whites. Yeah, exactly. You know what I'm saying? Drifting in the... Hey, man, this worked so good for the Jews. What if we did it for all non-whites? What's good for the Goose is good for the Gander.

I really don't think that applies in this way, but okay. Anyway. They transfer all the wealth of the nation offshore. The globalists are outside all the nations. That gives them safety and they play countries off against each other. And so that's what we're facing and dealing with. And so they're bringing in classical hardcore tyranny in the U.S. But we have the internet.

We've grown our numbers. The alternative media has exploded. That's why they're trying to move in to shut down and regulate and tax the web. But it's too late for them. They're playing in the 19th century, 20th century rules. It's the 21st century, the century of resistance to tyranny. And so it's going to be one hell of a fight with the people. Something important to note right now.

That guy right there. Is that... Yeah, I was thinking... I was fixating on him a lot. There's a weird hippie behind Alex. I was fixating on him a lot. But he's a weird specific kind of hippie. He's so specific.

He's not like a wavy gravy hippie. He's like a low-key, but also very obvious hippie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The other thing, while all of these people are around Alex Jones, zero people are nodding in agreement. Nope. Most of them are looking off in different directions. No one is reacting to what he's saying.

And anybody who is paying attention, like if you look right now, there is that dude looking directly at the camera. This fella? Yeah. Looks pissed. Well, I think that it's probably a collection of real angry dudes. I think... Right, right.

With the exception of a few women who are there, it's mostly angry dudes. But nobody's in support. Who goes to an end-the-fed rally other than angry dudes. I know, I know, but nobody's in support of Alex. No, they are. There's no positive... Tacitly.

Okay. Tacitly, I suppose. But not in reality, where you would be like, yeah, like nobody is throwing a write-up. Let me say. If I was there, and I liked what he was saying, I would constantly be doing, get him. I would just be...

Of course! I would be his hype man. Yeah, we both feel like... If I was that guy with the shades, if I was weird Chris Moneymaker standing behind him... That is weird Chris Moneymaker. Yeah, yeah. He's not good.

Now we're in 2000 for sure. Yeah. One free humanity on one side, and the new will order on the other. And every one of you out there counts, needs to be involved in this fight, like nothing you've been involved with before... Go fuck yourself.

Life and death, everything depends on exposing these... How many years has it been life and death so far, Dan? All of them. On an important announcement from... Hold on, Kyron. An important announcement from Alex Jones is coming up, in just a moment. Let me make this clear.

That Kyron was played underneath Alex Jones, while he was talking! And... So during his entire speech, it's important that you know that, in just a moment, something he says is important. Which he should, I mean, what he's saying, right now,

should be deemed important. You would think it's part of the important thing! It's not. There's an important announcement coming up. In a moment? You have no idea. Oh my God, this is an ad pivot! Fuck you!

Fuck you! Fuck you! And a new age of tyranny and oppression. You still have no idea. With change of an overlay, or a new age of liberty and freedom, and a new renaissance. The choice is the people's out there.

Okay, we can tell you what's going on, you can check it out for yourself and find out it's true. I have. It's not. Investigate now. Get involved now. Go out there and reach out now. We don't have time.

If you're looking for the solution, look in the mirror. Hey. Look right into the mirror because you, out there, men, women, old, young, black, white, doesn't matter. It's going to be up to you. Mostly the only one.

Why do you only ever say black when it doesn't matter? Without any future. I think we know why. I think we know why. These are cold-blooded people who think they're God, think that they're our masters, and think that we're animals. These are the guys that funded Lenin and Stalin,

and Hitler, and Mao. Take a breath, dude. These are the guys. It's all on record. It's not. They bankroll this stuff. They are hardcore vicious, and they must be resistant. You're watching the Obama deception right on my back.

No! You son of a bitch! Just a minute. But I wanted to take some time out in the middle of the film. Fuck it. I knew it. I knew it was an ad pivot. To go to infowars.com and purchase.

Real quick. There we go. Real quick. Called it. This is an ad pivot, but it's a uniquely disgraceful ad pivot because he's about to say, you should purchase the DVD of this movie.

You're already watching. You're in the middle of watching. Which is crazy. When I saw this, I blurt laughed so hard sitting alone in my house. I was like, you motherfucker. This is crazy.

It's so you can watch it at home. I mean, sure, we're watching it on YouTube. At home. But what if you were in a cabin? Sure. You couldn't show it to your friends if you were in a cabin. No.

You don't have YouTube in a cabin? You could very easily download it from YouTube. You could. There's those MP3 or a, you know, MPEG download. Right. Right. You could easily rip it.

All right. But what if the internet goes down and. But you could put on a flash drive. Okay. Well, what if flash drives fall apart? That's a great question. What if. Put it in the cloud.

Put it in the cloud. Put it in the cloud. Well, if the internet goes down, the cloud goes down. I can't imagine that like. What if the only thing left in our media sphere is DVD players? Here's what.

Do you want to live in a world where you can't watch Alex Jones on demand? Yeah. I know that the world that I've created for myself is one where I constantly watch Alex Jones on demand. But yes, I would like to live in a world where you can't. I would love that.

The thing that's most attractive to me about being in a cabin is that he's not there. So. The issue that I have with this is that like, it's so stupid. It's like, I can't imagine a scenario where it's like, but I mean,

people are dumb. So whatever. But I, I can't imagine watching this documentary and being like, I have to show people this to the extent that's like, I got to buy the DVDs so I can go over to other people's houses and force it on them or something like that. Like,

because they don't have the internet and can't just pull it up on YouTube. Do do do do a woman assumption click. Right. It's crazy. It's so awesome. I love it. I love it.

All right. He's just sitting in studio. This is totally in studio. It's amazing. So here's the problem though, that I think Alex is correctly addressing. If you were to send, he's not getting money off this.

No, no, no, no. If you were to send somebody a link to this and they weren't already interested in it, they would watch two minutes and they'd be like boo. Nah. Yeah. Right. But if you have a DVD copy and you take it over to

your friend's house, they're a captive audience. Yeah. But that's more. That's more about now. You're inescapable. That's about you being there. Not the DVD.

Exactly. He doesn't really help, but you need the DVD to make sure they know there's a physical reason to continue watching to give you a physical reason, punch him right in the face and take the right top. All right. Punch up.

All right. All right. Now it's free. Alex doesn't get any money. I don't understand. Are we? Oh man, we should sell a DVD copy of this entire watching

of this documentary. Oh, we probably should. So we give it out for free. We fucked a lot of dogs in terms of not making money. You know, like we have screwed up over and over again. But finally in 2018, we realized that DVD sales are the way to go. Absolutely.

This, this, the video of Jordan and I sitting mostly like statically not moving that much and drinking a couple beers, watching the Obama deception will be out on laser disc in 2019. I don't know. Anyway,

I think we got this one. This ad pitch is more than just trying to sell the DVDs. This is weird, baby. It's just a high quality DVD of the film. Or you can go to prisonplanet.tv and download a high quality DivEx version to burn the disc or DVD to give to your friends or family or neighbor in your community. Also want to challenge all the viewers out there.

Take time out to write notes as you watch this film and to check all the claims that we've made for your. I've written 50 pages of notes typed single spaced. I could not have taken more notes. Alex, you suck. Self because I'm confident in the information presented here and I want you to not trust me, but to know for yourself to know in fact that Obama is a betrayer and a liar, a Judas

goat, a Trojan horse to bring in the one world government. So again, thank you for watching the Obama deception and go to info wars.com and get a high quality DVD or watch it in super high quality and burn disc to give your friends, your family, your neighbors and warn the public at prisonplanet.tv. You already said that. Now let's cut right back to the Obama deception. Isn't it fucking hilarious that in the middle of his, his

rambling speech in the middle of that and the Fed protest that Chiron was like warning. An announcement. It's amazing. What a slick asshole. Anytime they describe the destruction of the monetary system they're always following it up with and now you should participate in your very destruction by buying my DVD.

You should get poorer by $19 by buying my DVD and also if you get too into me, you might get suckered into buying my friends gold. Buy some gold. Up until about the Kennedy assassination in the beginning of the war in Vietnam. The United States. This was already in the documentary.

This. Yeah. Didn't we already? Didn't we already play this? We're in repeats. Didn't we already already played this? How did we? How are we playing the same clip in a documentary?

Isn't that against the law? No, no, no. Isn't there a documentary? Make no mistake about it. This is here. Don't you remember HR 1100011 1100011. There's another one at the end. 1111111001.

Right. Where it said no fucking come on Webster. Get the fuck out of here. It's not Webster's fault. He just recorded this once. Alex played it twice. This is crazy. This is a very powerful engine for world progress.

It's the assassinations, the Kennedy assassination and the others in the 1960s. The others. The beginning of the Vietnam War and the beginning of the absolute domination of the Wall Street group over every other interest. Nobody else counts except the Wall Street money masters. That has now made the United States into no longer a force for progress, but something very different.

Often a force for destruction in the world. That doesn't need to remain that way. The interest of the American people is to fight to take your government back from Wall Street and make the United States a force for progress in the world, which we easily could do if we could just break the power of the people behind Obama. So you're saying break the power of the people behind Obama, but there's nothing substantive there at all in terms of

prescriptions for paths forward. There is nothing in terms of like the things that Webster Tarpley or Alex or any of the people who are the supposed experts that are in this documentary, there's nothing that they're advocating for that is outside of just like, fuck all this. There's nothing constructive really to it other than, I mean, I guess they would probably argue that audit the Fed is

constructive. Not recognizing the Fed's audit all the time. Destroy the Fed. They think that's productive, but it's not. No, let's just go with what that motherfucker said in that thing. You mean my boy, Spider Tarps? Yeah, that motherfucker. Oh, America could easily be a positive force for the world.

What does that mean? Exactly. What do you think is a positive force for the world? Because based on everything you've said so far, you want America to be a giant shitbag shitting all over the rest of the world. At the same time, I'm deeply relieved by the idea that he is not willing to accept Trump.

We know that. We don't know that from the documentary. We know that he is the sort of person who won't accept that. Right. So at least he doesn't think that that's what the world should become. So at least there's a line, you know, like at least for him. So what I think is that we should nuke Iran.

But other than that, we will be fine. We don't know that for sure, although probably, probably. I don't know. They all love. Yeah, this guy is. What is it? Look, I don't know. I never know what it is with these guys and their misunderstanding

of the history of Iran, Iraq, like whether or not they know there are different countries. Different branches of Islam. Yeah. Like this whole thing. Like has anybody has anybody ever asked them to define the difference between Shia and Shiite or Sunni? Like, I know that Alex does know the difference because he's

gone into it on his show before. So I know that he can't be like like blissfully ignorant of that. He does. The fact that he changes his position means like, oh, you're you're cognizant Lee. Yeah. Making a making a choice. Well, like when Webster Tarpoli says like America being awesome,

you're right. Like that's that's also fake. Everything is vague. It's all nonspecific and just in service of this shit's bad. We should do better. Whatever the guy is doing. I don't like because I don't like the guy. But also this isn't partisan.

Oh, it's a nonpartisan. It doesn't matter if you're Democrat or Republican. Yeah. This is nonpartisan. Anyway, back to George. This is it would be nice if they is opened. It would like this is purely nonpartisan. Oh, they did.

This is racial. Oh, we love white people. I bet Alex did do that in the first take. And they're like, no, no, no, no, no. Put the put the violin back in. Take two. The main banks of Europe, which were started by Adam Weishoff and Rothschild, the bank nationality of Paris, the bank.

This is a big problem. Here we go. Adam Weishoff. He's the guy who started the Illuminati. Yeah. Yeah. He didn't start any goddamn bank. No, he started the Illuminati, which is a bank in and of itself.

No, it's not. Yes, it is. It's a society that existed from 1776 until 1785 and then was disbanded because everyone's like fucking stop it. He had nothing to do with banks. Boo. He was trained as a lawyer. He had nothing to do with banks at all.

So the idea that George Humphrey is coming in here and expressing this idea that he and the Rothschild started this bank. I know where he's getting that from. Where is he getting that from? He's getting it from a 1991 book that was written by Pat Buchanan called the New World Order. Pat Buchanan noted not racist nor homophobe nor, oh no. Wait, Pat Robertson, he probably hates all of the things that these guys hate together.

Pat Buchanan wrote this book. I apologize for saying Pat Robinson. Pat Robertson also is a mess. Yeah, Pat Robertson. It's weird how many Pat's suck. It's a slim crew of Pat's. I guess there's Pat from SNL. Right.

The ambiguously gendered person. There's Saint. All right. Saint Pat. Patrick. I know Saint. All right. Anyway, I know this probably comes from reading that book because that book relied on a bunch

of sources that if you look into it and find the sources that those books pulled from, they were mostly things like the protocols of the Alters of Zion. Kill the boo. And one of the arguments that was made in Pat Robertson's book was that. Pat Buchanan's book. What? Yes. Yeah.

You infected me. I know. I'm a Pat dispenser. One of the things in that book was that Pat Buchanan was making the argument that Adam Weishaupt made the Illuminati, right? Certainly. Sure. That is true.

That is true. History shows that. True. But when history says that the order was disbanded, in fact, what happened is they went underground and they met up and collaborated with European Jewish bankers. God damn it. And by virtue of their collaboration, they started the Bolshevik Revolution. Of course.

And now exist as the CFR and that sort of thing. So that's a piece of Pat Buchanan's literary career. Right. The only reason I bring this up and I think the Pat Buchanan's New World Order book is probably more relevant to Alex Jones than we've given credit to. But I think that there's a lot of sources before it that are much more relevant. Yeah. That we pay attention to.

But the reason that it comes up here is because George Humphrey is clearly expressing that he believes that Adam Weishaupt was involved with banks and like starting banks and he brings up the Rothschilds. Yeah. And so to me, when I hear that, like, oh, the only real connection I really could think of with that is because Adam Weishaupt had nothing to do with banking that he does in Pat Buchanan's book. Anyway.

Bank of England, the Bank of Italy have all financed the Messianic and war leaders of the last 200 years. Huh? Napoleon. Yep. Lenin. 200 years. Dan Wim is Napoleon.

Who cares? Was he 200 years before this? Franklin Delano Roosevelt. 200 years. Backing right now Barack Obama. Get a haircut. You should get a haircut. But like, this is the perfect example of one of these things I was complaining about earlier

about the idea that these people just make extravagant, a historical claims. And then if you're like, no, they're like, prove me wrong. Right. What do you want me to prove wrong? The idea that Lenin got a bunch of money from the globalists. Lenin was independently wealthy. He got a bunch. His family was super rich.

Independently wealthy because of the globalists. Sure. He got some money from the Germans because the Germans wanted him to go back to Russia when he was in exile because they thought that he would disrupt the USSR, which was in their strategic interest. Right. But it wasn't that much money. It was a pittance compared to, you know what, Stalin had no reason to take fucking globalist

money. Now he was doing alright. Yeah. Doing fine. He had a good run. Doing fine. In terms of Hitler. Also throw in all of the Western history you possibly can because none of you know a

goddamn thing about the history of anywhere else. Oh sure. Like they always throw in, oh well Stalin and Hitler and it's like, you know who's closest to Stalin? We all know about palace intrigue at Chitonica. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like oh, oh, tell me, tell me how the fucking Joe dynasty was doing during the globalist reign of terror.

Like what the fuck are you talking about? That is something that's super, like that is actually probably more important than my complaints about this ahistorical nonsense is that like all of this, they don't even give a fuck about any other history than, you know, white dudes. Dan, who shares a border with Russia? China. Oh, does China share a border with Russia? Yeah.

Like are they really close to each other? Oh, oh, Mongolia does. Yeah. Would you say that maybe those two histories are perhaps intertwined in a level that people should pay attention to? What did the globalist have to do? Never mind Hitler, Dan. What did the globalist have to do with a Genghis Khan?

I believe it was Genghis. Whatever, who gives a shit? Yeah. I think they bought his horses. I think it's a deeply salient point that like all of this. White people, even their even their negative history, it's white people. It's all white. Even their weird deeply conspiratorial ahistorical shit is all like who gives a shit about what

non-white people were doing. Yeah. The baby cartel had established a beach at 1913 to the Federal Reserve Act. Was that an edit point? They set up a parallel shadow government through the National Security Act. Oh, did they? Oh, yeah. Prove it.

Does you remember that? From 47 on, the National Security State began the long process of absorbing federal and state bureaucracies while at the same time undermining the constitutional power of Congress and dominating the executive branch. How so? By controlling the issuance of currency and credit, the private Federal Reserve was able to buy up most of the Fortune 500. Whoa.

When did that happen? And if a company wouldn't sell, the bankers would unleash federal regulators to run the model business. Anybody listening to this who knows anything, like I know that we're an hour and 10 minutes into the documentary. You should have turned it off earlier. Oh, where? When he says that, you should be like, go fuck yourself.

So. That's crazy. The Federal Reserve. So does the Federal Reserve own most of the Fortune 500 companies? He said the Fortune 500. I don't think he recognizes that that's just a, that's a term for like the 500 most profitable companies each year. The list comes out every year.

Yeah. Yeah. So they bought all of them, including the ones that show up next year. Can I tell you, buddy, my friend, a guy, Federal Reserve doesn't own any of those companies. That doesn't sound right. He just said that they own all of the Fortune 500. They were able to buy up all of them, almost all of them and the ones that wouldn't play ball.

Holy shit. Regulators. So Warren G came in and knocked him out of business. What about Nate dog? He was in the cut. Okay. Yeah. Well, good.

I hope he gets his percentage. So look, what is our IP? What is Alex even fucking saying? I have no ideas. Are you saying that the Federal Reserve owns the entirety of the American economy? Well, like if he's, if he's not like presenting something he doesn't believe, what about Aldi? Does the Federal Reserve own Aldi?

I'm not saying it's in the top 500. I'm just, I just want to know, like, where's the cutoff point for the Federal Reserve? Do they only go after the top 500? Do they go further than that? Yeah. 501. Okay. Next year, asshole.

Okay. Now that I know that, now I'm fine. So if he's not just making shit up, which spoiler alert he is, uh, that would mean that the Federal Reserve owns Walmart, ExxonMobil, Apple, CVS Health, Amazon, AT&T, Ford, General Motors, and everything all the way down to Yum Brands and Western Union. They own Yum? They own Taco Bell. And if he's saying that.

Oh, that makes KRS ones Burger King thing make way more sense. Now we got it. Now that, now that I know that the Federal Reserve owns, uh, You didn't say his taco is cold. Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough. They don't serve burgers.

Not since the Bell Beaver. Um, That hasn't been a while since I've thought of that. So if Alex is really saying that, who owns all this? Because the chairman of the Federal Reserve, is he saying that that's who owns it? Because that's a person who's appointed by the president who serves a term to be the chair. So when they're in office, they own all these companies.

Is that what he's saying? Now, see, this is where we're getting back to my earlier statement that it has to be some dude who's like in the, in the middle management range. He's got to be, he's got to be there. He's not appointed. He's not audited. He's not confirmed. There are 12 people who are relevant in the Federal Reserve.

Yeah. Have you met Kevin, the owner of the fortune 500? No, that's not, I don't, I don't think that's who Kevin is. No. Kevin, the owner of the fortune 500. You mean the company that puts out the list? Yeah. That's Kevin.

He owns it all. He owns it all. Kevin. So like legitimately, if he's saying that like the chairperson of the Federal Reserve owns these fortune 500 companies, then they are exorbitantly rich, but then as soon as their, uh, you know, their term is over, then what, they are no longer owners, but then maybe that's not the case. Maybe he's saying that the abstract idea of the board of governors owns all of these

companies. Okay, I can see that. But that's complete and utter shit that he's talking because you know, he's just praying that his viewers don't realize how stupid the sentence like the Federal Reserve bought up the fortune 500 companies. They bought them up because if the board owned it, like, and it was, which they don't, but if the board owned all of those companies, then all of their profits at the end of the year would go into the treasury.

So like all of it would just go back into the government, which I think Alex would probably be pretty fucking stoked about because then you know, it'd be terrible because then the government would have all this money. Right. But he is afraid that, but that's what the government does have. But the government bought up all of this, but the problem is that the government is so deeply in debt. We've been bankrupt since 1933.

If all the fortune 500 companies profits are being funneled back into the treasury, which they would have to be if they're, if they're owned by the Federal Reserve, which they're not, then all of the federal, the deficit would be paid off in a year or two. Look, the point being, maybe not a year. As Alex stated, the federal government is the richest it has ever been. It's also bankrupt and it's both simultaneously. They own everything, but they can't afford anything as everything and nothing at the same time.

All of the profits are there. Uh-huh. They're running a deficit though. Right. And what else is there? I don't know. Oh, they don't make anything. And we need to reduce the size of government and they should sell off the fortune five.

Is that what he thinks they should do? They should sell off the fortune 500 that they don't own. I don't know. I don't think so. I think you just be like, how dare you control all these companies, which they don't. Look, here's the deal, like real talk, big picture situation, knowing what we know and what we've gone over about the structure of the Federal Reserve. It's ludicrous to hear something like that.

Thinking that they are a strictly private business for profit that takes all this money and they hoard it and I'm gonna eat all these profits, you would think, oh yeah, maybe it's possible that they bought up all these companies and we live in a world where everybody is run by the Federal Reserve. But if you do those two steps that you've already talked about being so painful and boring and frustrating, if you make it through those two or three steps and get to the point where you understand what the structure of this actual private public business is, you would hear that sentence to be like, go fuck yourself.

You think you're an expert, Alex presents himself as like he knows what he's talking about. That's crazy. Do you know it's even easier to do? Dan, remember, just turn it off. Remember, well, remember how much you said that the Federal Reserve made and how much they gave to the federal government? Yeah, they gave 89% of it.

They made $35 billion that gave $31.7 billion for a call. All right, Dan, a lot of those operating expenses paying off what they needed to pay off. Do you know how much money? $4 billion is Google makes every 45 minutes more than roughly that. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. The Federal Reserve, based on what you just described, cannot buy nor sell the Fortune

4000. No, it's the same thing with Alex talking about like that Chinese billionaire who's like, he bought up all the Hollywood studios. Yeah, couldn't. He it's not possible. It's absurd. Yeah. All this is like it.

Staying on people's ignorance and like hoping that they don't have any spider sense, the Spidey sense, you know, like any kind of like what any Wilford Webster sense, right? Any kind of instinct to be like, hold on, that sounds like bullshit. That's dumb, sir. Excuse me. Question point of order. Are you stupid? Yes.

All right. I will retract my question. We have more to get through this documentary. I don't care really to like debunk anything more. He says like we've already had multiple fake quotes. We've had him allowing fucking Ron Paul's brother to say that three people voted on the Federal Reserve Act. Yeah, that's true.

We've shown an explicit, I mean, in a very literal sense, three people did vote on that act. Well, sure. There were multiple others as well, many, but from a very factual standpoint, yes, three people did vote. We've also seen a complete misunderstanding and unawareness of how the Federal Reserve works. We've seen a completely childish understanding of civics and how the government works.

Right. Right. I just think the president can do whatever he wants and everybody can fuck off at this point. It's like, you shouldn't, you shouldn't take anything he's saying seriously. You shouldn't to begin with, but at this point, it's Thunderdome, man. Hold on. I, ladies and gentlemen, listeners of our podcast, we are at eight and a half hours

in on the show. We are at one hour. Dan has been broken. We are one hour and 10 minutes and 11 seconds on the documentary and Dan Spirit has vacated his body. Dan, it was lovely to know you. I still have some funny things to point out, but I don't really give a fuck about any of his like substantive claims.

Private central banks in Europe, the United States and England took taxpayer money and loaned it at over 30% interest to third world nations. A lot of people sitting around a desk. The bankers would then bribe the leaders of those countries not to pay back the loans. Their third world puppets would sign agreements stating that when the country defaulted, the banks would be given all the natural resources and infrastructure of the once sovereign lands. But worst of all, the countries would pledge future taxes paid by the people in perpetuity as profit to the private banks.

That's a bad deal. Right. I need specifics. I should really negotiate that. I need specifics. What countries is he talking about? Like what? Like there's nothing here.

Oh, it's just they did this to third world countries. That kind of sounds like he's just extrapolating on the Americans treatment, the white man's treatment of the Navajo. Like, is that what you're doing here? Or like trying to repurpose colonialism's evils, but just like blame something else. Yeah, exactly. I don't know. I don't know, man.

It's crazy. Do you know the thing that I benefit from most over history is now being used to benefit me again. And he's, he's putting this bullshit around about like I was like, oh, they bring in the great central banks so that these third world countries are in debt and they have to pay taxes to, uh, you know, there's a bunch of countries that have central banks that don't have income tax, which seems like a sort of counter example to his argument. No.

Oh, man. That's one of them. I've never heard of that. Probably not a country. Has a central bank. That doesn't sound like a country. Give me an E, uh, or a stand. Brunei, I believe is another one that has never heard of a central bank, no, uh, no

income tax. Nope. So there's counter examples to like even the system that he's talking about, but who gives a shit. By the year 2000, there were few nations. People sitting around a desk. This is a stock photo. The globalists were now.

Oh yeah. I see the Getty images in the bottom right world government takeover, the destruction of the Western nations economies. Fuck that guy. You're talking about Henry Paul's out there for a takeover. They first removed banking regulations. All right. All right.

Hold on. I am going to give him this. He put up a picture of Clinton. Uh, yeah, but, but the lighting was especially nefarious. Wow. It is, it is Bill Clinton sitting around a bunch of smiley ass old white and a bunch of smiley ass old white dudes all laughing together. Look, I don't care if I'm on your team or not on your team.

That picture is nefarious as fuck. No, very much. That picture is like the epitome of look at what we did to the minorities. Like that is an incredible picture of evil. It's a sort of picture. I look at him like, no, no, no, need you to die. Goodbye. Also like Alex, why are you complaining about getting rid of Glass Stegel?

That's regulation on businesses operating. Like I don't understand. Like I, I really, I don't mean this flippantly or just like some sort of like I'm pretending to not understand. I don't get why he's mad that they got rid of Glass Stegel other than the idea that it very clearly led to bad things. That's the only thing that, because he hates regulation so fucking much. Right.

He's against it. Uh, he's allergic to, uh, to, uh, it, it makes him upset in his stomach. Yeah. At his stomach. It's, it's crazy. I don't, I don't get it. He's now complaining about Glass Stegel being repealed, but like, I mean, because, because they don't, they don't believe anything.

They don't believe anything. That's the part I'm pretending to not understand. Believe nothing. These people are vacuous, empty, uh, vessels for whatever nonsense it is that will get the Koch brothers to feel good today, either that or just sort of like, what, what can I score a good point on? Yeah. How can I get more?

How can I own the libs or how, well, that's now back then it was probably like, how can I get more eyes on my product, which will allow me to scare people more, sell more of Ted's gold and I get a piece of the back end. Oh yeah. Peace. This allowed their front companies to issue unlimited credit to the world and to set up colossal Ponzi schemes, the likes of which the world had never seen. The scams were advertised by the controlled corporate media as completely legitimate because

of the fantastic returns private investors, corporations, state and local governments invested heavily. They had taken the bait, hook, line and sinker to destroy confidence in late 2007, the bankers themselves began to badmouth the scams they had created. Next the central bankers cut off the tsunami of fiat money that they had been using to pump up the bubble. When Congress and the public refused to write the finance oligarchs a blank check, the bankers began to engage in financial terrorism.

They said that the world would go into another great depression unless their demands were met further destroying confidence. The stock market instantly had its biggest one day loss in history, but even that wasn't enough to force Congress to capitulate. So they had the biggest drop at that point in history, 777 points. I assume it's never. We've beaten that record three times in 2018, the top three of all time drops in a single day.

I don't understand. Are you saying that? I think it's meaningless. But also Alex is like, Oh, it's a globalist drop in the market. So I don't, I don't know what to think. So hold on. So Dan, but also let me, let me try and get a historical timeline. Right.

So from the feds existence in 1913, which as we all know is a nightmare and a disaster and it should never have happened. Right. Right. It's like Friday the 1913th. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry.

Actually. I love it. It's not. I love it. I think that was great. I think it was great. It's not as bad as I thought it was, but no, I, I, I like it. It also shouldn't have taken you as long to think about it before congratulating.

It did. It did take me a while before I was like, wait, that's terrible. No, actually. I like it. Yeah. A lot of my comedy goes that way. I like it. Initially.

You're not, you're not really a laughs comment. Certainly not. I think history is just what I have quit. All right. I'm more of a, huh? Wait. Oh, you got it. I'm more of a, ah, interesting comic.

Anyway, go ahead. You're way funnier than me. So certainly with your Andrew Jackson bit that you stole from that guy, but I put it on this podcast that he stole it from me. So for posterity, right? We nailed it. Yeah. We'll get sued for that.

What were you saying? What was I saying? Oh, 1913 Federal Reserve here at the living infamy crashes. Yep. All of the stock market. No, it didn't. Destroyed. It didn't in 1913.

It didn't. It laid waste to everybody for the hundred years since, uh, er, er, like a hundred and five times after that were some problems, three times, three times. So that would be a hundred and five years. That would be 1929. The Great Depression. That would be 32 or whatever in that present day because he, and then 1987 as well. Right.

I think 1987. Well, maybe, but Webster Tarpley didn't include that in his three that he, uh, so you could include 1987 if you want to, but then you could also consider the dot com bubble, subprime mortgage crisis, all kind of as one if you want or two. But even if you wanted to consider those two as separate, then he got five, but still that's less than in that 20 years before the Federal Reserve, perhaps you could demarcate it differently. And you could say that from the, uh, uh, creation of the Fed to 1929. And then what was the other in 1933?

I can't remember. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The emergency banking bill had to be passed in 1933. Right.

I think it was 1932. It all started. Yeah. So then I'm, I'm just going to say that's still part of the Great Depression. Right. Exactly. So in 1932, they, they had this guy who had this like whole, he was like, listen, I'm going to make a deal.

Like a fresh agreement. I'm going to make it a, a, a, a random, uh, a, uh, here to for unheard of deal. Like so he had some like novel terms. Right. Right. So then he's, he's laid out this thing. And you know what? It's watered down by these motherfuckers, but it's still strong and it keeps going.

And then let's say in some time period, 1980, uh, uh, somebody starts trying to tear apart this deal. Right. So how many market crashes did we have in between 1933 and 1980, Dan? Well, if you don't count the already existing Great Depression, which we were working our way out of at that time, I think, how many did we have? Well, in terms of like severe major ones, zero, zero. Right.

Now, after this, like let's, and this is a completely, completely random number, completely random number, 1980 past that, uh, have we had a few, a few, few. It's almost like, so maybe the federal reserve isn't our like boogeyman here. No, maybe it's a deregulation of markets. Um, so yeah, it's, I mean, it's petty to point out, but Alex is like, no, it's just really important to point out, Alex is dumb and wrong about everything. And his reasons for it are wrong and you're wrong and fuck off, Alex. Go fuck yourself, Senator Inhofe of Oklahoma and Congressman Brad Sherman of California

amongst others. Nope, just the two have been threatened with martial law by the White House and the Treasury apartment if they didn't pass the so-called banker bailout bill. We already talked about this at the beginning of the episode about how Brad Sherman came on Alex Jones's show and he refuses to acknowledge that he explained what he was talking about. The only way they can pass this bill is by creating and sustaining a panic atmosphere. That atmosphere is not justified. Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this bill on Monday

that the sky would fall, the market would drop two or 3,000 points the first day, another couple of thousand the second day, and a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no. That's what I call fear mongering. If there's one thing I've learned from watching C-SPAN is that when you can hear a man talking on the floor of Congress and hear all those echoes, it's because there are so many people who are still in the room, right? Sure, sure.

If they don't do a wide shot, there's often like, it might be like eight people. A lot of echoes. It might be a Wayne Paul situation. There's three people on the floor. And Wayne Paul might be there. Well, because oftentimes it is like, you want to put something in the congressional record and no one's there. That's possible.

I don't know what the situation with this was, but when I hear Brad Sherman say this, I don't hear anything more nefarious than exactly what he described when he appeared on Alex's show. I don't hear this as being like somewhat, some strong arm asshole came in and was like, you passed this. There's martial law, you son of a bitch. It's more just like everyone is freaking out. The idea that this could lead to an entire collapse of the monetary system, you know,

people talk shit and when they talk shit, it ends up being like, it gets worse. It's going to get worse. Oh my God. Can you imagine how bad this is going to get? Oh, anyways, by the way, this is the time where we break in our show and start to sell gold, right? No. Oh, do we not have any gold sponsors?

I don't have any gold sponsors this week. God damn it. We got to get some gold sponsors. I don't have any sponsors. Does anybody, does gold just, can we just get a sponsorship from the concept of gold? I think we probably could. I mean, based on the fact that Webster Tarpoli still has a show on Genesis, I bet we could too.

We probably could. Imagine he wouldn't accept us. Like he's talking, what do we send him a letter talking shit on Alex? Like he clearly hates libertarianism and Ron Paul, and he still fucking has a show there. Can't imagine what his standard for like, like, how do you get kicked off that network? All I want to do is sell diamond gusset chains. That's all I've ever wanted to do, Dan, that's all I wanted to talk to. I will sing.

I will sing that fucking song. Ted knows the guy. Okay. Unjustified. The final version of the bill was kept secret from the Congress until minutes before the vote on October 3rd, 2008. This isn't true. The bailout bill was not secret.

It failed to pass the House on September 29th, 2008, then the Senate took up a new version of it and it voted through on the evening of October 1st, 2008, and then it was sent to the House and it was voted through on October 3rd. It was quick, but it wasn't a secret, nor were they given minutes to read it. This is all just bullshit that Alex is peddling. The Federal Reserve had promised total transparency that every dime would be accounted for. Bernie is pissed again. Bernie is pissed.

I say step up to the streets, but okay. Also Alex already played this clip earlier. This is the second time he's played a thing over again. I just want Bernie Sanders' reaction shots to speeches now from now on. Not true. Not true at all. If you pause just the place that I did here, there's an article that Alex puts up on screen about this $9.7 trillion.

It's interesting because if you go find that article, you find that in this article it clearly talks about the $9.7 trillion and the $700 billion numbers, they're two different things. The $700 billion is the bailout. The $9.7 trillion is a figure that's being batted around about what the Federal Reserve was going to lend to banks. They're different monies. They're different things and they're not missing.

It's not missing. It's not stolen. It's not missing. It's only stolen if you accept Alex's conception of the Federal Reserve as some sort of evil corporation and that's not the case. Within 24 hours of its passage, Secretary of Treasury Henry Paulson said they were no longer going to use the money to unfreeze the mortgage market by buying bad debt. We went to Congress.

Liquid assets look like the way to go. As the situation worsened, the facts changed. I will never apologize for changing an approach or strategy when the facts change. Honestly, that clip makes him seem like a reasonable person. Yeah, that actually doesn't make me angry at all. That's like, oh, yeah, no, that's a good idea. I won't apologize for changing my position when facts change. That is the closest you're ever going to get to a politician saying I was fucking wrong.

We didn't approach and we fucked up. Sorry about that. So we thought this was going on and then we tried this and that didn't work. It worked a little but not as much as we thought it would. It turns out that was what's going on. So we're going to do that to solve that. And before we didn't know that was that we thought it was this. So whoops.

But more importantly, that was Henry Paulson talking. Yeah. And Alex says that a day later, Henry Paulson flipped the script on everybody and said, no, we're not going to do what we said we're going to do. He took them out on the stroll like a pimp. He's like, nah, fuck that. It's my way or the highway 24 hours later. He tricked everybody.

This is bullshit. The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 was passed into law on October 3, 2008. The quote Alex Jones is using here is from Henry Paulson and it comes from an article in Bloomberg that was reporting on the speech that he was making there. It was from November 12, 2008, over a month later. The quote's in reference to what they were going to do with the second half of the $700 million. The initial plan of buying up all the devalued assets and clearing up bank balance sheets

hadn't gone as well as they'd hoped. So the Treasury was looking for a different approach. Instead of looking for ways to keep going down the same road, they're exploring the idea of ease and consumer credit worries. Right or wrong, it's not some sort of evil act. It's someone reevaluating whether or not their plan's working. So if I understand correctly, this was November 12, 2008. That's correct.

Obama had been president for six years, right? I think he'd been, I think he got elected four days before, six days, eight days before that. Yeah. I mean, no. So he was president at the time. Right. I understand that and I want to make hay out of that and I want to dance all over Alex

Bay. I'm just saying, I just need to point that out. I understand that and you're right. And none of this is Obama's fault, really. Or is really something he's that involved with on a personal level, except as a senator. The only reason I don't keep bringing that up is that Alex pretends that the point of this documentary is not Obama. It's that he's a puppet.

Yeah. Yeah. So like you puppet, you puppet, me puppet, you put that. So to say, like, who's the dummy, dummy, uh, the, the, to say like this happened before him, isn't really a refutation of Alex because he'll just throw it back. I'm not talking about. No, no, no, of course. That's why I, I, I, I stopped myself whenever I'm like, we're talking about things in 2008.

The only time it's really relevant or like way earlier when it's like Alex is using a C-SPAN appearance from ROM in 2006. Right. Right. So it's like, that's so irrelevant. See now, here's the thing though, with the way that we're doing this podcast, I feel like we need to at least once every hour to remind people that this is not about Obama at all.

Not really. And it can't be because he's only been in office for less than exactly. So this is, or in, uh, in this circumstance has not been an office utter bullshit. Yeah. Paulson has in the meantime admitted that the subprime mortgage crisis is not the cause really of the entire world banking system and the bankruptcy of most of the banks in London and in, uh, in Wall Street. He said, we're going to buy up toxic assets, but we're not going to worry about subprime

mortgages. What he's talking about is derivatives. The reason you're saying this is because of the idea that he's like, well, we went this approach and it didn't have the effect we wanted to. So we're doing it. We're going to use the rest of the money, uh, in a different approach. Webster Tarpoli is pretending that what Henry Paulson was saying was this isn't the reason for the things that, uh, the situation that we're in, as opposed to being like, this might

not be the best way for us to move forward. It's a fine distinction, but this is a lie. This is an absolute lie. Derivatives are the center of the crisis, which still might be fair that where the money was still a lot secret. I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency first by inflation, then by deflation, okay, pause, pause, I don't want to know what the

end of this. I've read it until the children wake up home for anybody listening. It's on the father. It's on screen. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs. Thomas Jefferson, third president of the United States. The reason, the reason I waited- All right, now, before you continue at all, based on

our track record so far, Dan, before you say another goddamn word, did Thomas Jefferson actually write that fucking shit? That's a fake quote! God damn it, Dan! But also, the reason I waited until the end is because like, what you want me to pause it and then afterwards we have to listen to more of that- No, the moment, the moment, so they put the whole thing up on screen and you can see that it's attributed to Thomas Jefferson in a letter to the Secretary of Treasury, Barbara.

And the moment I saw that, I was like, uh, probably it didn't happen. No, probably not. If Alex Jones is using a quote, it's fucking fake. It's probably not real. We have had- I'm sorry, I just didn't want to even allow him to finish lying in the middle of it. But I wanted him to get his voice over done so we didn't have to listen to it more after- Yeah, we could have.

We could have scrubbed. I think it was like six fake quotes in Endgame and now we're at like four- Oh, we had a lot of fake quotes in Endgame. We're at like four at this point on this episode, so like, I mean, you know, that's ten in two documentaries of just completely- That's a lot of whole cloth making up quotes. So now with this quote, it's really interesting. The earliest reference to this quote, according to the Jefferson Encyclopedia, is from 1937.

Thomas Jefferson died in 1826. Right. That's strike number one. It goes right on time. Strike number two is the use of the word deflation to describe the process that money goes through. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, that word didn't take on that meaning until 1920. Almost a hundred years after he had died. Now, in-

There's no way he said that. In his defense, Thomas Jefferson loved balloons. So he would have known about deflation and its many metaphorical uses. But that metaphorical use wasn't a use for the word until 1920. The Oxford English Dictionary, they do a lot of research into etymology and uses of words. It's a good resource. They're kind of anal about it, if you will. Alex has up there on screen that this was from a letter to Albert Gallatin.

But according to the Thomas Jefferson Foundation, those words don't- Albert Gallatin has been dead for 25 years. Those words don't appear in any letters Jefferson wrote to Gallatin. The quote, quote, I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies, is a paraphrasing from something he wrote in a letter to John Taylor 14 years after Alex is claiming that letter was sent. But the rest of the quote is completely made up in the 1930s. So all that's-

That's insane. That's a lot of horseshit. Yeah. I love it. Yeah, I know. It's- You can trace it down because there's people who care about this stuff a lot. It's fun to realize that you could make a lie that everybody knows is bullshit today,

but might accidentally become the bedrock of truth a hundred years from now. Might create an entire dumb movie. Yeah. Isn't that fascinating? I mean, this Thomas Jefferson quote is one of the most important of Alex's, like, that idea of if we let these banks do what they want to do for our children, our grandchildren would be slaves in a land where we conquered it. But you say it a little bit nicer.

Yeah. But that sort of thing is like so important to him. So like knowing that it's all like, ah, someone just made that up in the 1930s, Thomas Jefferson didn't say that. Yeah. That's all fake. It's very rewarding to me. Yeah.

You know, they're like, ha, ha, ha. Although on the other hand, what is nice about it is that because our language is so completely and utterly different now, it would be hard to make up, like it would be kind of hard to make up quotes for Obama when, uh, you know, like 10 years from now, it's going to be like emoji, emoji, emoji, believe in the truth, emoji, you know what I'm saying? That'll be easier to track. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. But I imagine that wouldn't be in the congressional record even in 10 years, but, but that sort of thing you do not know what the congressional record is going to look like in 10 years. That sort of thing is the fingerprint of frauds. Yeah. The idea that deflation didn't have that use back then is a marker that people can use to go back and be like, oh, there's no way he said this in the 1820s. Yeah.

That's nonsense. Someone else wrote this. It's like when you go back through the Bible and you start looking at the derivation of all the words, you're like, this was not written whenever it's purported to have been written. This is clearly showing the signs of this time period and so on and so. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, it's a great hand.

It's fun. I like words. Right. Linguistics is a really fun. It's fun. I have a new study. And Webster Tarpley has a degree in that. He should have told Alex.

Don't use this quote. Secretary Paulson came in with the vice president. Oh, Daryl Esau, you, you idiot. You know, Isis was named after him. Was it? According to Matt Trudge. That's crazy. A critical immediate need to get rid of the corrosive derivative products, you know, all

the different names for this. And, you know, ubiquitous, you know, Sub S retraded credit default. I wouldn't be petty except you're a dick. Okay. But they, they talked about them as though they knew what the hell they were. You got the money and you immediately said what items, what auction. Now the treasury just, just basically cut that out of the bill. Oh, it's a six year old.

You know, oh no, that's very old. Six year old. That's goose in it. My bad. Banks are hoarding the money that they're getting from the tarp. They're using the money to purchase other banks. We're getting to that in a second. Yeah.

Yeah. No, no, no. That one I remember. Forget about it. We're going to give you the money that you want and you do what you want with it. Unless you directed specifically, it's not going to happen. I don't think anyone questions, Mr. Kashkari, that you're working hard. Our question is who you're working for.

So Alex just played that clip twice also like that. Days. Yeah. And look, Kashkari was where it was. That's, that's Bush administration. Yep. But also he was someone who worked in Wall Street before and what Dennis Kucinich is implying there is very clearly.

Are you working for the best interests of the people or for the banks who used to work at. Exactly. Alex is trying to play this up as some sort of like a. Are you working for the Illuminati globalist baby or it's more like, are you part of the whole system of revolving door? You're a regulatory capture as it would be. Yeah.

Also one thing and I need to talk about that. I love the name Kashkari. It is nice. Isn't it? It's so good. Yeah. This is the only thing that I've ever been able to think about Kucinich and I've read a lot about his policies.

I've read a lot about history. You think nothing more than what you're about to say. I think nothing. And of all the things that I've read about Kucinich, this is the one thing I've said. I've thought. Has any Taylor ever been able to figure him out? Probably not. Weird.

Because there are zero suits I have ever seen him in that make even the slightest bit of sense. Throughout its passage, President Bush and Senator Obama worked in tandem to get Congress to pass the bill without even having time to read it. Despite the fact that in major polls, 98% of the American people were against the bill. The leadership in both parties were for it. 98%? They had time to read the bill, but also he keeps saying both parties and what we see

on screen is again, he's playing the exact same footage of Pelosi, Ron, Barney Frank and other Democrats. Now 98% is crazy. Only in America's history, 98% of America has never agreed on something at the same time. I can't find any. Not even like water's good. Like 98% of America does not agree on anything too much fluoride.

Exactly. Yeah. There's no way 98% of America has agreed on anything in any poll ever, Jordan. I spent way too much time trying to find this poll. I dug through all sorts of records trying to figure out like, is there a poll that existed? Because earlier I found that poll that Alex was lying about, the 9% approval rating for Congress was based on that Rasmussen poll that was asking a different question. I don't want to come out here and say there was no poll that said that when there's just

a slight misunderstanding, I can't find anything. I'll tell you this, on September 22, 2008, Rasmussen posted a poll that showed a 28% approval rating for the bailout. So that's sort of a baseline around when the bailout was happening. On September 26, 2008, a USA Today poll found that 78% approved of Congress doing something, but 56% thought that plans should be different than what Bush suggested. That's America in a nutshell. That's the most America you could ever get.

Yeah. Yeah, they should do something. Not that though. Three quarters say do something, over a half says not that. Fine. I don't know what we can do. I want that poll to be, that should be written on everybody's epitets. Honestly, that poll, if I were someone who had to make a decision, I would find that

crippling. Because I would be like, I don't know what to do. So, so, so, so what then? Well, I have to do something. What do you want from this? I have to do something, but it's not this thing we spent hours and hours coming up with, Oh, no. Oh my God.

That's the most American thing you've ever read. But I also understand, I also do something, 50%. I mean, the USA Today doesn't really have the best like polling history, like in terms of their like, uh, adherence to statistics and their credibility, but at the same time, I smell that poll. Those numbers are like, you bet that that seems, that seems like that might have been one day. Yeah.

It feels right. 538 predicted that one accurate. Because I remember the time period too, and it feels like, it feels like emotionally I might have been there too. Exactly, right? Yeah. At the time I'd have been like, yeah, we got to do something. Whatever it is you said, wrong.

Yeah. You might have accurately pinpointed my emotional state that I couldn't even articulate. Thank you USA Today. So on October 1st, 2008, the Pew Research Center released a poll showing 45% thought that the government's plan was the right thing to do. So that's pretty close to a 45% approval rate. And ABC, a Washington Post survey, not a poll survey from September 29th found a 45% approval rating for the proposed bill.

I can't find anything that even comes close to approximating a 2% approval rating. I know that as things went on, things got less popular, and I understand that. But I still can't find anything from around that time that is even close. That Rasmussen poll from September 22nd to 28% is the closest I can find. I don't know. I think Alex is just making this up. I really think he might just be out of nothing. In the same way that a dictator winning a reelection by 98% of the vote is suspicious.

This is suspicious. If it was a real poll, I wouldn't believe it. But I also hear Alex say it, I also don't believe it. And I really want to commend Barack Obama because as we were involved in this and that and different provisions of the bill to persuade people, he really gave them confidence that this was the right decision for the American people even though it wasn't, in our view, a great bill. This is Nancy Pelosi.

What a difference a decade makes, right? And Alex is trying to present this as her saying this bill sucks and stuff like that. But what she's really expressing is the idea that we would have wanted something a little bit better. That's something that our Democratic caucus would have wanted and I'd like to thank Barack Obama for being a negotiator and someone who brought us all together. And you know, we aspire for better, but this is also probably the right thing to do. There's nothing nefarious here.

Nope. For them to vote on. I want to take a particular moment to also thank them. Bill! And that is Barack Obama. Bill! Fuck you! But the members of our caucus and help us vote on the Democratic side to pass this legislation.

Barack heads then bragged to the press that they were hoarding the bailout money and using it to buy up smaller, healthy banks and insurance companies. They're playing. So real quick, this is something that sounds fucking evil because the idea that these banks were getting tons of money from the government and they're using it to buy up other banks. Alex is suggesting this is super evil and it does seem that way. But this isn't what Alex is presenting it to be. If you go to the article that he just flashed up on screen there, they explain exactly what

the situation is. Right after the part where Alex cut off the article, probably strategically, the article goes on to say, quote, there's a growing consensus among treasury and other federal officials that allowing healthy banks to use the money to acquire banks in jeopardy of failing could stabilize the economy and bolster confidence in banks. This could also save money for the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. Naturally, this isn't ideal, since you wouldn't want to be creating even bigger entities, whereas the whole excuse for bailing things out to begin with was they were too big to

fail. But you can kind of see where the strategy might be considered. You kind of think about it like, okay, so you got this bank, this big bank, right? We need to help them. Right. So you give them a bunch of money. Right. That other smaller bank is also failing.

We got to give them money too. But if that bigger bank with the money that we gave them buys that smaller bank, we no longer have to give that smaller bank money. There is a sense to it that makes sense. It's not a good strategy. Right. No, it's not good. It's one of those situations where when you are in Congress, there's a party that's

like, I just want one guy who's kind of removed from your whole structure, who's going to go like, oh, that's a dumb idea. You know, you know how dumb that idea is? That's the idea that got us to where the idea you had right now is necessary. That would be me. That's a dumb idea. That would be me in Congress in flip flops, smoking a spliff. Exactly.

Like just burning a spliff in the middle of the house like, I wouldn't do that. No. Hey, guys, you want to, you want to be back here in about five years? No, then no, the answer is no. It's a bad long-term strategy, absolutely. But at the same time, when we're talking about an emergency, it does make sense as like, this is something that could help ease troubles. Right.

And it could be a thing where like, you absorb a lot of the damage, but again, more importantly, Yeah. That's a, but see again, that's not like a specific failure to any of these people so much as it is a systemic failure of like, well, you're in Congress for a short period of time and you need to be reelected. And so this makes sense to you where like, if you did what was a good idea, it would still suck for a while and you might get unelected. You know, you might, you might lose in your next election if you did the right thing.

I don't know if there's a right or wrong thing. Like, I honestly don't, I know, I know, I know you didn't mean it that way. But like, it's, it's so, it, it's so nebulous and complicated. Like it's, is there, it is just judicious. Is it wise? Is it a smart thing to do? Those sorts of descriptions, I think are, are applicable. But like, I don't know if right or wrong, but there is a right or wrong aspect.

Yeah, there's effects on other people. Yeah, it is hard. It's hard to say. I don't know. I'm glad I don't know how to make these decisions, but I can look at it from a far and, and like, I don't need the hindsight of 2018 to know what was actually going on there. Yeah.

And it wasn't something nefarious or it's like, haha, all these banks got all this money and they're like, haha, now we're going to buy up all these other banks. It was sort of an arrangement that was going on about the idea of like, we can absorb the damage that could come to the FDIC and help out. And also there was a little bit of that. We can buy up some stuff. We can buy up some stuff.

I'm sure there's definitely that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Plan was working like a charm. Next, the central bankers loan the federal government back $787 billion of our own money. That's a stimulus bill. Nice. Obama's so-called stimulus package.

So, so called that package that stabilize the economy. Congress was given less than and ruined our lives by increasing 70 page plus useless bill. Barack Obama, who had pledged on the campaign trail to wait five days before a bill could be voted on so that the Congress and the people could have a chance to read it said that the stimulus was too important and it had to be passed before anybody could see it or read it or the crisis would turn into a catastrophe doing a little or nothing at all will result in even greater

deficits, even greater job loss, even greater loss of income, correct, and even greater loss of confidence, correct on all fronts that could turn a crisis into a catastrophe. And I refuse to let that happen. I agree. After its Friday passage in gangster fashion, president, whoa, that's cold, holy cow. There was no rush to sign it.

So real quick, earlier congratulations to Alex for his restraint on insane dog whistle. Durr instead of gangsta. Earlier, he said that they were just giving in, they were given an hour to read the bill. That's not true at all. No, it was introduced on January 26, 2009 and passed the House on January 28, 2009.

It was voted on the Senate on February 10, 2009. The house timeframe isn't ideal. I would, I would prefer more than a day and a half probably, but that's also not an hour. Now, in terms of that gangster fashion bullshit. Listen, what Alex is, he has said that it, it passed on a Friday and then Obama went on a, on a vacation. So here's the deal.

I hate presidents who go on vacations regularly. The stimulus perhaps for 40%, if not 60% of the days of the year. Now, though the stimulus bill passed the house on January 28, 2009, which was a Wednesday, yeah, and it passed the Senate on February 10th, 2009, which is a Tuesday, the chambers of Congress, uh, Congress passed different versions of the bill. So in order to get it through, they had to go to conference and negotiate the bill.

They reached a negotiation on February 13th, 2009, which is a Friday, which is probably what Alex is talking about. They got it through conference on, on that Friday. It was signed by Obama on February 17th, the following Tuesday. But that's probably because the Senate didn't take their vote until, uh, the conference bill passed on like 5 30 pm on a Friday. You gotta be out of there by five. You know what I'm saying?

I mean, hey, hey, look, it's a Friday. Coal workers didn't die so we couldn't all have a 40 hour work week. I believe in that so strongly that I believe our president can also check the fuck out at five. I don't really. Yeah, I don't know. I'm joking. I'm joking around a little bit about the fact they passed the bill at 5 30 on a

Friday, but the reason that he didn't sign it until Tuesday is because that the 14th, the day after was Valentine's Day and Monday, February 16th was president's day, which is a federal holiday. Let the clerks have the day off. You can't, you can't. What, what you think the president's going to take a federal holiday off? It's his day. Oh, it's literally his day.

It's literally in the name. It's literally his day. It's president's day. What, is he going to take that day off? Yeah. So he took, he took a vacation over the long weekend. They passed the bill. And then when he came back on Tuesday, he signed it.

Yeah. Now Alex is talking about like, he made it seem like such an emergency and then he was gone for the weekend. When you look at this, the reason it was an emergency wasn't a matter of a day or two, it was a matter of dragging your feet. And that's very clear from this. Like when you look at what he was actually saying in the rhetoric, it was, we can't afford to wait around and let bureaucracy get in the way because you

had a situation where Congress could really gum up the works and they could get into infighting. There could be, could be a whole bunch of nonsense. You could end up with a bill getting stuck for a month, two months. And if you waited that long, it would be a disaster. Yeah. A day or two, not a big deal. Not a big deal.

So Alex is splitting hairs on this really weird, like I would say the same thing about Trump, like I honestly would. I think he's a fucking shithead and all of that. But if he waited a day to sign a bill that didn't matter if he waited a day, I would never be like, this motherfucker tried to, it's not. I want to live in a world where that's my problem with Trump. Totally. I want to live in that world.

It's the, I want to live in that world where it's like, oh, what? You can't sign it until a week later. That would be a great issue to have with Trump because the issue I don't want to have with Trump is no, he couldn't sign it because him and his wife that he loves a lot that I publicly constantly say as a man went on a vacation for Valentine's Day and President's Day, which happened to fall on say weekend. All right. I pissed off about it.

No, so I did say she was a man over and over again. I call her Michael all the time, but also it's kind of a joke. If anyone calls me out on it, that's Alex. Yeah, man, I want to live in that world. Yeah, it'd be great. I want that to be my biggest problem. Oh my God, I want that to be my biggest problem so bad. Well, it's that fun thing.

Not we're keeping people in fucking tent camps. It's a fun thing about being a we're putting children in front of a fucking judge. I would love for my biggest problem to be, oh, you take a long weekend. It's a fun thing about being a patriot is you're battling ghosts. Yeah, that is you're fighting a fake enemy. So all bets are off. It doesn't really matter. That is nice.

And you kind of know that. So like, yeah, I'll get the shit. I'll scan my audience. Right. We'll have a good time. Yeah. Everyone's going, hey, we're all having a good round of drinks. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Now, the Patriot movement is a giant group of people saying round of drinks on everybody who hates you round of drinks on everyone but me. Yeah, that's what they're doing. Yeah. The spending bill was really a takeover bill designed to pay off rich donors for it donated to both parties. I guess as the world slid deeper into depression, the fire sale that they had created and believe.

But again, this is, he doesn't mention Soros at all. No, it's a Soros visual cue. But Alex doesn't seem to know that that's on screen. It seems like if you hated Soros so much as he did, so much so that as you were a child, your mom would put Soros on PBS. But how is it evil? Yeah, you would you would in your own documentary showing Soros himself go off. Well, I mean, like there's been multiple occasions already where his voiceover

doesn't match the what's shown on screen. Yeah. So you kind of get the sense that maybe whoever's editing this put that on. And Alex doesn't even know that's the b-roll. Right. If this the phrase burdens of the office is overstated. You know, it's kind of like, why me, other burdens. Why did the financial collapse have to happen on my watch?

It's just, oh, my God, put him in that goddamn prison cell. And I don't believe a president like Obama will be full of self pity. I honestly think that that that clip, you responded very poorly to that. I think that that's one of the Bush clips that I've seen that makes me like him the most. Yeah, I'm not interested in rehabilitating his image at all. Yeah, but it sounded like he was giving some sort of like a woe is me thing. But he was poking fun at himself. He was saying, like he was addressing the idea of the burden of office.

And he's being like, I don't really think it's all that serious. And then he did that character of like, woe is me. The burglary happened when I'm on. Right. He was saying that that is not what someone should do because he's already on his way out of office and then ends up saying, I don't think that Obama is the kind of president who would take pity on himself, which is a classy fucking thing to say. Agreed.

And I wish he had said it from a prison cell. Sure. Don't disagree. But I, oh my God, you know, that, you know, that letter, you know, that letter that every president's rights to the next George, George, I want to read Trump's letter so bad. His letter is going to be like, I learned how to write with a crayon. And that's going to be it's going to be a rebus. He is fucking, oh God, we're all going to die.

Um, the, the, I don't know. I, I, I don't, I don't want to defend W, but like the only reason I responded that way is because you were like, bye, I just wanted to, I wanted to make sure that I thought, I think that that's, no, no, no, no, I, I, that clip, I think is pretty good. I agree. There's a lot of clips of Bush in this documentary that are fucking awful. And now I'm presenting that is being awful.

And I don't think it's awful at all. I think it's classy as hell. I agree. Fine. With their access to unlimited fiat capital, they could now buy up sectors of the world economy, not already controlled by them. Like what? Over a century.

I think they already own the Fortune 500. So, so what the fuck are they doing artificially engineered? What do they want? In an address before the trilateral commission in June of 1991, this is a barrage of terrible graphics. The super national sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national determination practice in the last centuries. There's a higher quality version right now at prisonplanet.com.

If you were wondering, if you want a sharper version of an old decaying white man, go to prisonplanet.com. Did you hear that quote? A little bit. It wasn't real. It doesn't really matter. God damn it. That's another fake quote.

God damn it. He was talking about the, the super national collaboration of these like a banking interest is definitely preferable to the sovereign states, blah, blah, blah. This is based on a YouTube video that went around conspiracies. I don't like, I don't like anything based on a YouTube video. It was purported to be a leak copy of a speech that Rockefeller gave at Bilderberg in 1991. But if you look at the video, it itself says on the video, like on the god damn

picture that's on screen, it is just an image. It's not a moving video. It's just a picture and it says in parentheses, audio simulation. God damn it. It is not a recording at all Rockefeller, but people act like it is. All right. There's nothing to back this up. There's no transcript.

There's nothing. There's nothing to substantiate this. And it didn't start making the rounds until two years after he support supposedly said it. So my feeling is absent any other confirmation and based on all of the fake quotes that Alex keeps using. I think he maybe didn't say it. I'm a, well, I think, yeah, absolutely. Because to say that would be fucking stupid.

That would be a bad idea to say. Yeah. Um, even if you, if you, if you were a global business, uh, uh, Illuminati running world master, right? You still wouldn't say that, but also here's what I would say. I understand that you expect privacy at Bilderberg, you know, like, you know, it's just, it's, they work under a chatham. I mean, you're Adam, Mary, they have chatham house house rules.

The understanding is that you can, this is actually really what they go by. Yeah. They use this, uh, rule set where you can use any information that you got there, but you can't talk about who said it or anything like that. All right. So if I am there, uh, at Bilderberg, you and I are there. Yeah. I give you a piece of information about like some thought I have or whatever.

Right. You can run with it, but you can't say that I told you that there. There's, there's that secrecy there. Um, but that's sort of their, their guideline. So whatever, the reason that I'm bringing this up is that like, so let's imagine a world where, uh, David Rockefeller's giving a speech in 1991, when he's been to many Bilderberg meetings before that. Yes.

He is, it's not his first time. He's not some sort of green rookie. Right. He comes in and gives a speech where he says, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, we are gonna usurp sovereignty. That would be gauche. Like even if he believed it, it would be the sort of thing. Why would you fucking say that?

You're only saying it to people who already know that that's what you believe. If Alex's version of the Bilderberg is right, right. Why would the king of the whole thing be like, no, here's what we're gonna do. That seems fucking stupid. Well, what concerns me is where is the king of lobbyists at this point? Leon Panetta. Yeah. Yeah.

What's he doing? He's not in play. I don't know. He's not in play. So who's the king of lobbyists at this point in time? Well, he's always the, the, the, the also what are the king of the handles the succession rights on the king of lobbyism. Well, you've got to, you've got to steal one of his clients.

Oh, no, of course, absolutely. And then he will require a trial by combat. Are you sure you don't need to marry one of his lobbyist's daughters? Well, I mean, that's another way to do it. That's another way it will still lead to trial by combat. That would only lead to you becoming an Earl of lobbyists. Ultimately, it's going to lead to combat. Okay.

And you have to get a champion. He'll get a champion. Everyone's going. However, it is. Ultimately, choose Dwayne the Rock Johnson is Mark with some Queensbury rules, which is why Dwayne the Rock Johnson is going to house rules. So you guys can have a fight. I thought it was your house rules, no abortions, and no one can talk.

Cider Chatham. This is nonsense. So the only reason I bring this up is like trying to entertain the fucking idea of the world where in David Rockefeller said this. Yeah, but he also fucking did. No, there's no way. But if he did, I welcome Alex to prove that it happened. And I will retract everything I've said about this, but I think it's fucking stupid.

I won't retract anything, but you can. Yeah. Well, I'm saying, I'm, I'm making declarations. You're all right. Well, hey, I would say, I would say there's no way that this doesn't come back to Daniel Estolin. And if that's the case, then I say get bent Estolin. We have all been held within the jail cell of that ponytail for too long.

That jail Estolin wasn't a pun. I blew it. And that is where we will have to cut it off for today. I hope you all enjoyed yet another spurious quote that Alex is peddling as if it's a real, what a shock. There's this documentary is lousy with Alex just making shit up, but we will be back tomorrow, Friday for the conclusion, the thrilling conclusion of the Obama deception coverage.

We've already passed the point where I have given up caring about this. Listening back to this, that was a, not a proud moment for me to have put on a recording, just admitting I don't really give a shit about what Alex is even saying anymore, but we're there and we, we have crossed that, that line and we'll see how it plays out for the conclusion. Thank you so much for joining us on this adventure. I know it's a lot, it's a lot to listen to, but I figure a lot of you people out there probably have travel over the holidays, you know, maybe you're on

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